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Title: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: Sector9 on February 01, 2013, 01:14:52 PM
...the words we've all been waiting to hear!

FFC press conference
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: Matt on February 01, 2013, 01:40:10 PM
I would be surprised if he is, to say the least. Poor boy has a lot to live up to now...
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: MasterHaynes on February 01, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
Not the same physique at all, and he attacks from the wing which was Dembele of old not the new Box to box deeper centrally lying midfielder Dembele
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: ffc73 on February 01, 2013, 01:50:51 PM
 086.gif So he over elaborates and is not enough effective enough in the final third?

I prefer to consider him as our new player, Emanuelson, and look forward to seeing the wonderful things he will do for us

Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: mangoputney on February 01, 2013, 01:53:36 PM
Has the press conference been uploaded anywhere yet? any links?
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: EJL on February 01, 2013, 01:58:58 PM
Bit of an odd comparison. Jol can say it all he wants but Dembele has not been properly replaced.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: MasterHaynes on February 01, 2013, 01:59:17 PM
Quote from: FFC73 on February 01, 2013, 01:50:51 PM
086.gif So he over elaborates and is not enough effective enough in the final third?

I prefer to consider him as our new player, Emanuelson, and look forward to seeing the wonderful things he will do for us


Puts him, Urby, under pressure before he starts, unfaily raises fans expectations. Jol has been saying what we all know, we have missed Dembele and if we could have kept him results would have been different.
Can't understand why he just didn't say he was a great player and we were very lucky to get him. Everyone happy then
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: cottage cheese on February 01, 2013, 02:00:36 PM
It was under Martin who put him into midfield and created the monster that he is Dembele. Urby could be quite decent and the only way to see is to give him  a chance
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: Edwatch_Winston_Malone on February 01, 2013, 02:07:09 PM
Hopefully that doesn't mean he will run around in circles....
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: Mr K.Dilkington on February 01, 2013, 02:15:18 PM
Both exciting players but completely different in their own right.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: valdeingruo on February 01, 2013, 02:18:29 PM
 086.gifWell he could mean the other Dembele
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: FFC1987 on February 01, 2013, 02:54:01 PM
Well Jol never compared to the modern day CM Dembele, he said he is like Dembele before he was a CM. Not sure what the problem is.

Quote from: EJL on February 01, 2013, 01:58:58 PM
Bit of an odd comparison. Jol can say it all he wants but Dembele has not been properly replaced.

Which is good, because he never said that.

Been blown way out of proportion, an off the cuff comment and suddenly its bad man management...
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: JackyFulham90 on February 01, 2013, 02:56:07 PM
Am looking forward to seeing Emanuelson play for us
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: gezkc on February 01, 2013, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: MasterHaynes on February 01, 2013, 01:59:17 PM
Puts him, Urby, under pressure before he starts, unfaily raises fans expectations. Jol has been saying what we all know, we have missed Dembele and if we could have kept him results would have been different.
Can't understand why he just didn't say he was a great player and we were very lucky to get him. Everyone happy then

I find Jol says a lot of things that come across as being a bit tactless. I'm not sure if it's a language thing, or just the way he is.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: HatterDon on February 01, 2013, 03:09:25 PM
Quote from: EJL on February 01, 2013, 01:58:58 PM
Bit of an odd comparison. Jol can say it all he wants but Dembele has not been properly replaced.

nor has Murphy. The thing is that we can't afford a player as good as Dembele is now. As for Murphy, there are at least 15 Premier League clubs that would love to have the Murphy we signed from Spurs. Players like Murphy are very thin on the ground. We're blessed to have had him in our colors.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: God The Mechanic on February 01, 2013, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on February 01, 2013, 03:09:25 PM
nor has Murphy. The thing is that we can't afford a player as good as Dembele is now. As for Murphy, there are at least 15 Premier League clubs that would love to have the Murphy we signed from Spurs. Players like Murphy are very thin on the ground. We're blessed to have had him in our colors.

Yeh, the club got very lucky with both of those.  And both improved beyond recognition too, so hoping to replace either let alone both would be fruitless.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: filham on February 01, 2013, 03:30:04 PM
Wishful thinking by Jol. Can yoe imagine any club loaning us a player up to  Dembele's standard on loan for 14 premiership matches.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: ffcbulgaria on February 01, 2013, 03:31:40 PM
Quote from: filham on February 01, 2013, 03:30:04 PM
Wishful thinking by Jol. Can yoe imagine any club loaning us a player up to  Dembele's standard on loan for 14 premiership matches.

Oh come on, he said "a bit like Dembele" that could be any bit from his general play. For example if you look at the videos of Emanuelson on youtube you can make a conclusion he's better than Dembele cause after all the dribbling he usually ends up one on one with the keeper and scores....
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: EJL on February 01, 2013, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on February 01, 2013, 02:54:01 PM
Well Jol never compared to the modern day CM Dembele, he said he is like Dembele before he was a CM. Not sure what the problem is.

Quote from: EJL on February 01, 2013, 01:58:58 PM
Bit of an odd comparison. Jol can say it all he wants but Dembele has not been properly replaced.

Which is good, because he never said that.

Been blown way out of proportion, an off the cuff comment and suddenly its bad man management...
I'm just going off the only quote available to me in the thread. Not my fault if it's out of context.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: McBridefan1 on February 01, 2013, 03:42:30 PM
yes he should have tempered things by saying, he is a bit like Dembele and a bit like shefki kuqi... there everyone satisfied?
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on February 01, 2013, 03:52:07 PM
Whatever he is he will be better than we we had before.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: Denver Fulham on February 01, 2013, 04:04:49 PM
Good heavens, guys. Jol just made the comparison because Urby is clever on the ball with some pace. He said he doesn't have the same physique/strength as Dembele. Relax.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: BarryP on February 01, 2013, 04:28:02 PM
This doesn't raise my expectation any farther than to think perhaps Jol expects Urby to have the ability to dribble around a few players.  I haven't been the happiest with Jol's man management but let's cut the man a little slack here.  After all, we are all prone to comparing players to others that we are familiar with.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: mikeyffc28 on February 01, 2013, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: FFC73 on February 01, 2013, 01:50:51 PM

I prefer to consider him as our new player, Emanuelson, and look forward to seeing the wonderful things he will do for us



:plus one:
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: Bassey the warrior on February 01, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on February 01, 2013, 03:09:25 PM
Quote from: EJL on February 01, 2013, 01:58:58 PM
Bit of an odd comparison. Jol can say it all he wants but Dembele has not been properly replaced.

nor has Murphy. The thing is that we can't afford a player as good as Dembele is now. As for Murphy, there are at least 15 Premier League clubs that would love to have the Murphy we signed from Spurs. Players like Murphy are very thin on the ground. We're blessed to have had him in our colors.

Actually the Murphy we signed from Spurs wasn't at all wanted, he'd been out of form and out of favour. Same with Huddlestone. If he was at any other club than Spurs we'd have signed him.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: Captain Fulhamerica on February 01, 2013, 05:32:45 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on February 01, 2013, 04:04:49 PM
Good heavens, guys. Jol just made the comparison because Urby is clever on the ball with some pace. He said he doesn't have the same physique/strength as Dembele. Relax.
Exactly.  As soon as Jol said that he was quick to say that there was only one player like Dembele. 
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: jmh on February 01, 2013, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: McBridefan1 on February 01, 2013, 03:42:30 PM
yes he should have tempered things by saying, he is a bit like Dembele and a bit like shefki kuqi... there everyone satisfied?
He and Shefki Kuqi do have the same number of legs.  Let's hope that's all they have in common.
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: BestOfBrede on February 01, 2013, 06:20:28 PM
I remember when many were not overly keen on Dembele saying he dribbled but there was no end product! He didn't score that many but was a good player. I think if we try and compare Emanuelson to him it will be easy to find areas where he is better and worse, and therefore should not be attempted. I'll take him on his own merit and would not be surprised if he scores more in his short time here then D did in his longer spell. Not that will make one better than the other - just different!
Title: Re: "Emanuelson is a bit like Dembele"
Post by: Jack Fulham on February 01, 2013, 06:23:20 PM
damn another luxury player! :54: