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Title: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: The King on March 02, 2013, 02:17:56 PM
Sunderland: Mignolet; Gardner, Bramble, N'Diaye, O'Shea; Sessegnon, Larsson, Colback, Johnson; Graham, Fletcher
Subs: Westwood, Bardsley, Vaughan, Mangane, McClean, Cuellar

Fulham: Schwarzer; Riether, Hangeland (c), Senderos, Riise; Dejagah, Karagounis, Sidwell, Duff; Ruiz, Berbatov
Subs: Etheridge, Hughes, Richardson, Frimpong, Emanuelson, Rodallega, Petric

http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=187689&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=187689&part=sports)

Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: bulgariawhite on March 02, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
What I expected
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: HatterDon on March 02, 2013, 02:44:28 PM
With two clean sheets in a row, you don't want to change much. I like it!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: tslyon on March 02, 2013, 02:46:31 PM
Agreed.  Stay with what is working...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: rusty shackleford on March 02, 2013, 02:46:44 PM
Had a rare occurrence the other night...a football dream. We were 1 down at HT and drew 1-1
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Humbled on March 02, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
not my personal starting 11 but as everyone has said hard to change a winning side... then again when it was a losing side it wasnt changed either especially in the attacking sense... 2 or 3.1 today COYW
Title: Re: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on March 02, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
I have a good feeling about this. 3-1 the whites

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Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: JIMMY D on March 02, 2013, 02:49:40 PM
I just hope we attack and not sit back like we do every away game. Don't understand!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: tslyon on March 02, 2013, 02:50:46 PM
Gentleman Jim up and running...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 02:52:08 PM
I have a feeling that we will win this one if we play for a win and not our usual draw
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: grandad on March 02, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
Gentleman Jim up and running...

[/quote
Periwinkle blue sky. I just love that bloke.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: tslyon on March 02, 2013, 02:55:42 PM
Mute the foxsoccer
Gentleman Jim up and running...

[/quote
Periwinkle blue sky. I just love that bloke.

Mute foxsoccer.tv and listen to Jim.  Makes for a great morning!!!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Frodes on March 02, 2013, 02:57:50 PM
Anyone have a link to a working online feed for the match?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Roberty on March 02, 2013, 03:00:39 PM
http://cricfree.tv/live-rugby-streaming-ch4.php (http://cricfree.tv/live-rugby-streaming-ch4.php)

http://nutjob.eu/njtvx16.html (http://nutjob.eu/njtvx16.html)
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Northern Cottager on March 02, 2013, 03:04:14 PM
Bit miffed we arent seeing much of Emanuelson or Frimpong. See how this goes though!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Frodes on March 02, 2013, 03:09:27 PM
There we go, thanks for the link
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Humbled on March 02, 2013, 03:12:09 PM
Ruiz howing his passing ability againg... given it away more than not so far hope he gets better still early
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Burt on March 02, 2013, 03:12:46 PM
Real Madrid a goal up against Barca
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 03:15:38 PM
Penalty
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 03:16:12 PM
YEEEEES
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on March 02, 2013, 03:16:20 PM
That's a cold execution!  :wine:
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Burt on March 02, 2013, 03:16:53 PM
Remy just put QPR one up.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Azeedo on March 02, 2013, 03:17:09 PM
sweet jesus we are winning away
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ordar on March 02, 2013, 03:17:28 PM
Stonewall Pen. Dunno what Sunderland were moaning about
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: IranianCottager on March 02, 2013, 03:17:50 PM
Yes Berba! 1-0!
Well done by Dejagah in earning the penalty as well, makes up for his screw-up vs Stoke.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Burt on March 02, 2013, 03:17:58 PM
Dimitar Berbatov, Dimitar Berbatov, Dimitar Berbatov, Dimitar Berbatov.

[Repeat ad nauseum]
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Northern Cottager on March 02, 2013, 03:18:24 PM
Waheyyyyyy
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Boggers on March 02, 2013, 03:18:36 PM
Berbatov hypnotised Mignolet
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on March 02, 2013, 03:19:09 PM
Sunderland fans annoyed by the ref in the way that he only gave it on second thoughts, but the right decision was made in the end. The crowd don't know that though to be fair.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Humbled on March 02, 2013, 03:19:25 PM
why are they banging on about the ref and the peno??

was it a pen? YES
did he give it? YES

do we care why it took him 2 seconds? NO

he got it right FFS
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: grandad on March 02, 2013, 03:20:31 PM
 Robbie Savage, BBC Final ScoreSunderland 0-1 Fulham

"Berbatov is too good for Fulham. With that penalty he stopped then sidefooted it nonchalantly into the corner. What a player he is."

What an absolute plank Savage is. No player is too good for us.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: JudgeBread on March 02, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
Dejag's touches in the penalty area were top class.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Humbled on March 02, 2013, 03:22:38 PM
Dejag's touches in the penalty area were top class.

his 1st touch was class cos the ball into him was heavy or seemed it
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 03:25:50 PM
Should have been 2
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Boggers on March 02, 2013, 03:26:05 PM
He's just missed a sitter
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: rusty shackleford on March 02, 2013, 03:26:20 PM
Shudda buried that
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on March 02, 2013, 03:28:10 PM
Dejagah's end product is getting a bit frustrating, should be hitting the target at the very least from there.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ordar on March 02, 2013, 03:29:49 PM
I wouldnt say it was a sitter. It was on his bad foot. The perils of playing inverted wingers
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on March 02, 2013, 03:31:52 PM
I wouldnt say it was a sitter. It was on his bad foot. The perils of playing inverted wingers

it wasn't exactly a sitter, but he should be doing better than that IMO.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: IranianCottager on March 02, 2013, 03:32:20 PM
You know there's a problem when even Riether, Fulham's best and most consistent player of the season, if having an off-day...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Boggers on March 02, 2013, 03:32:41 PM
Don't buy the bad foot argument, these are footballers at the top of their profession - they should be able to use both feet.

Sunderland are squeezing us really well and our passing has been poor. Need some composure in there.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: rusty shackleford on March 02, 2013, 03:33:19 PM
We are still the better team tho
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Jack Fulham on March 02, 2013, 03:34:02 PM
Can see the ref trying even this up. Hesistated to give the pen. Frustrated home crowd. Gave the pen early on in the game.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Jack Fulham on March 02, 2013, 03:34:46 PM
UNREAL LOVE YOU SASCHA
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ordar on March 02, 2013, 03:34:53 PM
REIIIIITTTHHHEEERRRR. Great break
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Humbled on March 02, 2013, 03:35:01 PM
get in there Reither... if there was one bloke i would love to see score lol
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 03:35:09 PM
Oh yes. That's 2
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: JudgeBread on March 02, 2013, 03:36:02 PM
Sign him up
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on March 02, 2013, 03:36:14 PM
 082.gif Yeah! We actually went for that counter and well derserved goal from Reither!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: IranianCottager on March 02, 2013, 03:36:29 PM
Beautiful work by Ruiz and Dejagah on the right!
Great hustle by Riether to run all the way up there!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ordar on March 02, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
Urgh
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Jack Fulham on March 02, 2013, 03:36:44 PM
Can see the ref trying even this up. Hesistated to give the pen. Frustrated home crowd. Gave the pen early on in the game.

I said it.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Azeedo on March 02, 2013, 03:36:44 PM
of course dumb ass senderos
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: alexbishop on March 02, 2013, 03:36:51 PM
Penalty what the hell was he doing
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: rusty shackleford on March 02, 2013, 03:36:57 PM
Theres senderos usual mistake
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Humbled on March 02, 2013, 03:37:02 PM
this is one thing with senderos that pisses me off... he commits the foul rather than win the ball...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Jimbobob on March 02, 2013, 03:37:19 PM
 078.gif :drums: :HD: :wine: 049:gif
God just get the link up see we have one and BOOM!!! We are up 0-2
Then a penalty damn it!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on March 02, 2013, 03:37:21 PM
Well guess we got his mistake of the game out of the way...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on March 02, 2013, 03:37:23 PM
Well played by Ruiz in the box, but what a sprint from Reither.  Jesus.

And that's another penalty, stupid decision by Senderos to hug Fletcher.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: jarv on March 02, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
senderos       keep your fecking hands to  yourself...ref gave the right decision.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on March 02, 2013, 03:38:47 PM
senderos       keep your fecking hands to  yourself...ref gave the right decision.

But so often they're not given.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on March 02, 2013, 03:39:26 PM
i disagree, that was not a penalty.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: RoyTund on March 02, 2013, 03:39:44 PM
How often are those given.  Never.  Sadly feels inevitable that Sunderland wil turn this round.  Typical.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 03:40:28 PM
That is exactly why you cannot play Senderos
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on March 02, 2013, 03:40:40 PM
Don't think that's a pen at all, wouldn't have given it if it wasn't for the first penalty being so badly taken by the Sunderland fans.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Bryanthebroom on March 02, 2013, 03:40:40 PM
WTF senderos. Hopeful ball up...Senderos wrong side as per usual. I was really hoping that he'd turned it around over the last couple of games but Jesus. This just brings it all back.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ordar on March 02, 2013, 03:40:44 PM
Was a classic home decision to even it up
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: alexbishop on March 02, 2013, 03:41:43 PM
clear penalty
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: kennethwong20 on March 02, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
at last thing you want after scoring the second... giving a penalty away straight after the kick off.

how could martin jol give him a contract extension!?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: grandad on March 02, 2013, 03:42:20 PM
I really thought Senderos had turned the corner but I was mistaken. He´s having a mare.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Texas White on March 02, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
Was a classic home decision to even it up
never a penalty
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ordar on March 02, 2013, 03:43:42 PM
You will see that happen 1000's of times a season and nothing given
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: The King on March 02, 2013, 03:44:05 PM
Was a classic home decision to even it up
never a penalty

Those are never given, you mean? Clear penalty.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Texas White on March 02, 2013, 03:44:09 PM
why is that twit so pro Sunderland?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 03:44:50 PM
It was a penalty and Senderos is stupid. We had this game wrapped up
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Texas White on March 02, 2013, 03:44:53 PM
You will see that happen 1000's of times a season and nothing given
yep
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Matt Inglis on March 02, 2013, 03:45:41 PM
Sunderland are exactly the sort of team that don't turn things round.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: MJG on March 02, 2013, 03:46:03 PM
You will see that happen 1000's of times a season and nothing given
yep
so its senderos unlucky again, even thou he did not dispute it.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Barrie on March 02, 2013, 03:46:18 PM
No argument over the penalty for me.  How does Senderos keep his place?!  It seems we're happy to accept he'll make at least one costly mistake a game.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on March 02, 2013, 03:46:25 PM
why is that twit so pro Sunderland?
No clue, but there's no other transmissions because of the damn clasico, as if we're supposed to give a damn about this weeks moaning fest between Barcelona and Madrid. I'm considering just putting it on mute
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: jarv on March 02, 2013, 03:47:33 PM
time for referees to give the penalty EVERY time. then, clumsy twats like senderos will stop the holding.  just when you think it is safe to play senderos, normal service is resumed.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Texas White on March 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
Its a stupid challenge, but order is right.
They are either all penalties or not. And we see that every week and they are not given.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on March 02, 2013, 03:48:08 PM
Two very very soft penalties given so far, but the clearest penalty for around 3 or 4 rugby tackles on Dejagah on the box not given, interesting decisions from the man in the middle
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: MasterHaynes on March 02, 2013, 03:50:05 PM
bad mistake by Senderos but Schwarzer should have made clear it was his ball bad decison to back away if Senderos caught that out of the side of his eye can understand the panicky mistake
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 03:50:50 PM
Silly boy Phil, no need for that at all. Soft but a penalty, I'd like to see the refs be a bit more consistent. Very disappointing as we were running away with the game. Having said that we've comfortably defended against them so far.
The positives are that the Ruiz-Berba partnership is working finally, Berba not dropping so deep and allowing Ruiz the freedom to express himself. I see us scoring again.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: theotherdembele on March 02, 2013, 03:51:03 PM
Classic Senderos time to celebrate he's new contract we've just been given another full season of this twit!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Walsh on March 02, 2013, 03:54:03 PM
Berbatov hits double figures on his goals for this season and Sascha Riether gets his first goal for Fulham.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Lighthouse on March 02, 2013, 03:54:29 PM
Only time we looked in trouble was the penalty. But not sure we will have such an easy second half. Very little in control in midfield. We need more control and more passing that hurts them instead of just keeping the ball. Odd half to say the least. Dejagah our most dangerous player.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: deeffc on March 02, 2013, 03:55:54 PM
I think the difference is usually the defender is in the right position goal side, and holds their ground. In this case Senderos is caught out and can't get to the ball. It's a penalty because he's making no effort to play the ball, he's just trying to prevent the striker getting to it. It's poor defending and Senderos consistently makes the same mistakes. Hearing he's being offered a new contract, no idea why.

Aside from that a really good first half, we're getting Berbatov back in the game now Ruiz is back and playing solid football.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Humbled on March 02, 2013, 03:56:12 PM
Sendaros does this all the time... he plays the man and not the ball

look at the Man united goal as a reminder
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Boggers on March 02, 2013, 03:56:38 PM
It's a soft one and Senderos got punished for being a fool.

Sunderland look so average and we look dangerous on the break. I can see us picking them off in the second half.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: JIMMY D on March 02, 2013, 03:57:49 PM
Let's hope it's not another 3-3 draw!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on March 02, 2013, 03:58:27 PM
Sendaros does this all the time... he plays the man and not the ball

look at the Man united goal as a reminder
Right!? It was only a matter of time with him. I fear it won't be the last time

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Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: sunburywhite on March 02, 2013, 03:58:36 PM
Senderos - the thinking mans Zat Knight
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: kennethwong20 on March 02, 2013, 03:59:39 PM
*off topic* Kacaniklic has provided an assist for Burnley's first half opener at Charlton :p
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ruiz11 on March 02, 2013, 03:59:58 PM
 Such a shame, all we needed to do was keep the ball until half-time with the score at 2-0 and get the home fans on the players' backs. Such a cheap goal to concede at a really infuriating time.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 04:02:15 PM
On a postive note we will win this comfortably. Sunderland are a lot worse than I thought. If you take away the 3 points that they stole against us they would be in big trouble
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ruiz11 on March 02, 2013, 04:03:13 PM
On the plus side, Dejagah looks outstanding and with Ruiz dropping back into midfield to make a 4-2-3-1, we have an extra man in the middle, meaning Sunderland can't get the ball.

However, the goal seems to have knocked the stuffing out of us defensively: we look shaky all of a sudden and Marko's kicking is getting worse and worse.
Title: Re: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on March 02, 2013, 04:04:08 PM
I think this game deserves to end a draw. Hoping for a win obviously, but it'll take a bit more from the midfield to improve the possession

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Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: grandad on March 02, 2013, 04:04:35 PM
I just hope Senderos can either have a superb 2nd half or be replaced by Hughes.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: rusty shackleford on March 02, 2013, 04:05:17 PM
That was senderos again. Left his man
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: IranianCottager on March 02, 2013, 04:05:27 PM
Senderos saved Fulham with that tackle!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: RoyTund on March 02, 2013, 04:05:40 PM
Halsey clearly gave that to even it up as he was uncomfortable with the decision he gave to us.  Frustrating as you'll see much worse shirt pulling in the second half in all games this afternoon that won't be given as penalties.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: jarv on March 02, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
why do Fulham come down to opponents level. Sunderland are awful (again) and we look like leaking more. poor performance again by the lads. gifted 2 goals, go for it.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Azeedo on March 02, 2013, 04:06:36 PM
Johnson is give riether a run for his money
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: deeffc on March 02, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
That was shocking from Senderos. Like totally appalling, how can he lose Fletcher when they're running together? He's clueless.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: grandad on March 02, 2013, 04:09:29 PM
With Sunderland having Bramble & 2 not regular full backs we should be taking them apart.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on March 02, 2013, 04:16:10 PM
Brybatov looking a little too languid at the moment, wouldn't mind seeing Rodallega on for Duff or Bryan in a bit
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: alexbishop on March 02, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
why do our players not want to get in the pen box?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on March 02, 2013, 04:17:53 PM
Canadian Cottager is right.  Or Jol just needs to bring him off for a quick chat.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: jarv on March 02, 2013, 04:21:21 PM
need to pick up the pace else sunderland will score soon.....not enough effort being put out by the lads.. looks like they are trying to kill the game but there is 30 minutes left.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Lighthouse on March 02, 2013, 04:23:06 PM
Oh for a positive sub. Once again we stop in the final third with no players going forward
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 04:23:15 PM
Urby for Duff.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on March 02, 2013, 04:24:08 PM
Urby for Duff.
Wouldn't mind that at all. Does seem to be losing his legs in the second half recently Duff
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on March 02, 2013, 04:24:10 PM
ok sub there, but would also like to see urby on for duff in 5- 10 mins time - think his pace would hurt them alot.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: cottage cheese on March 02, 2013, 04:24:33 PM
senderos is a liability. He should not be here after the summer. He keeps costing us with his awful concentration
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on March 02, 2013, 04:24:44 PM
Urby for Duff.
beat me to it  078.gif
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: IranianCottager on March 02, 2013, 04:25:07 PM
Why's Berba complaining? Because he actually had to run to get to the ball?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Walsh on March 02, 2013, 04:25:47 PM
I think it's time to get Berbatov off, he is killing our confidence out there!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on March 02, 2013, 04:26:07 PM
senderos is a liability. He should not be here after the summer. He keeps costing us with his awful concentration
At worst, he's a decent squad option, but with Hughes aging and at the moment only 3 centrebacks in the squad, we're not in the position to be shedding players in this position. Keep him, but we need a new centreback or two in the summer.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on March 02, 2013, 04:26:57 PM
3 or so great tackles from Ruiz in a row there. His defensive work has really been great this season
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: rusty shackleford on March 02, 2013, 04:27:32 PM
for fcuk sake fcuk fcuk fcuk
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ordar on March 02, 2013, 04:27:41 PM
Typical
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on March 02, 2013, 04:27:44 PM
God damn...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Baider on March 02, 2013, 04:27:54 PM
I seem to think its only a matter of time before they score
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on March 02, 2013, 04:27:58 PM
Well crap. Can't believe Berba didn't put that in, let's get Rodallega on
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on March 02, 2013, 04:28:09 PM
Time killing is killing  :dft007:

Off the boot of WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ???
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Baider on March 02, 2013, 04:28:20 PM
Oh there we go
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: grandad on March 02, 2013, 04:28:26 PM
Senderos 2 Fulham 2
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on March 02, 2013, 04:28:50 PM
Ugh... should have been 3-1 but now level.  Really good save and a lucky deflection for Sunderland at the other end.

Gonna lose this now.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: alexbishop on March 02, 2013, 04:28:58 PM
can anyone honestly say they didn't see that coming?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 04:29:24 PM
Another great play by Senderos
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: westcliff white on March 02, 2013, 04:29:33 PM
stupid penalty to give away and its changed sunderland for the better sadly
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ordar on March 02, 2013, 04:29:37 PM
We've been very negative second half so it was always likely to happen.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Jimbobob on March 02, 2013, 04:29:49 PM
Great - folding like a cheap suit yet again... so maddening... :dft007: :dft007: :dft007:
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 04:31:50 PM
Sidwell gets his usual booking
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: westcliff white on March 02, 2013, 04:32:16 PM
he signs a contract and the reverts to his usual self
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on March 02, 2013, 04:32:27 PM
Why does everyone always just stand and watch?  I wish to almighty God we had players that would move off the ball!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Azeedo on March 02, 2013, 04:32:44 PM
so fulhamish
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: RoyTund on March 02, 2013, 04:32:56 PM
We really get feck all luck away from home. Been better side all afternoon.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Lighthouse on March 02, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
We don't want to win and we allow teams to much space. Poor Jol sub. Instead of going for it we sort of hoped and Frimpong is just not up to the pace.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 04:33:12 PM
Welcome to the game Damien. Honestly why does he never get subbed?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: deeffc on March 02, 2013, 04:33:16 PM
I'd blame Sidwell rather than Senderos there, Sidwell should have marked the scorer as Senderos was already really in position to back up Riether, perhaps Senderos could have cut it out better but if Sidwell was in position there wouldn't have been a problem. Got to blame Jol for allowing us to drop too deep though, when we did get a break there when ended up so stretched, rather than keeping the ball and controlling the game.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on March 02, 2013, 04:33:22 PM
Mark Halsey just seems to make his decisions by trying to even everything out, he's had a mare today IMO.

Also the comments about how we've been to defensive, does it mean much to you that we ended up conceding that goal on the break when we committed men forwards?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on March 02, 2013, 04:34:04 PM
Hangeland has been all over the place today.  Awful passing, diving into challenges that aren't necessary and being caught out of position, and charging forwards only to give the ball away and then jogging back.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on March 02, 2013, 04:34:18 PM
Not really coated himself in glory today Berba...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ordar on March 02, 2013, 04:34:48 PM
Duff has been non existent. I can see us losing this now
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: jelmo on March 02, 2013, 04:35:03 PM
Berba should have passed. He has been crap today
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: jarv on March 02, 2013, 04:35:19 PM
definitely could see it coming, another on the way too I suspect......woeful 2nd half by fulham.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: deeffc on March 02, 2013, 04:36:31 PM
Also the comments about how we've been to defensive, does it mean much to you that we ended up conceding that goal on the break when we committed men forwards?

I think the trouble was we ended up stretched as we lost our shape, if we keep the ball and the attack then the midfield is still in shape and the defense has time to close the space between themselves and our strikers, by dropping so deep when we lost the ball we then became so vulnerable to the break.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 04:37:40 PM
Twenty mins too late.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 04:38:09 PM
Duff has been poor for the past four games.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on March 02, 2013, 04:38:51 PM
Missing person alert:
5'11, braided hair, dark complexion. Speaks a bit like Sofia Vergara in Modern Family. Responds to Hugo Rodallega, if found, please bring to the attention of Martin Jol
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Baider on March 02, 2013, 04:42:16 PM
Why are we playing so deep!!!!! Just inviting pressure
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 04:43:01 PM
Why are we playing so deep!!!!! Just inviting pressure

Nerves.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 04:43:23 PM
Good sub, have Rodallega press their defence so we can push up.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on March 02, 2013, 04:44:37 PM
Dejagah's miss now is very painful.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on March 02, 2013, 04:44:58 PM
That's more like it, I'm calling it, 3-2 Fulham
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: alexbishop on March 02, 2013, 04:45:09 PM
Do the players actually want to win this game?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 04:45:34 PM
What is Sidwell doing?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: jarv on March 02, 2013, 04:46:17 PM
what a shambles at the back.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Baider on March 02, 2013, 04:47:15 PM
We HAVE to start Emanuelson next game
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Burt on March 02, 2013, 04:47:46 PM
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Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on March 02, 2013, 04:48:02 PM
Losing home and away to this rabble would be absolutely gutting.  So poor.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Burt on March 02, 2013, 04:48:33 PM
Man U 3 up now.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: St Eve on March 02, 2013, 04:48:49 PM
So Senderos has given away 2 points today
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Humbled on March 02, 2013, 04:48:55 PM
why are we so slow on the ball... its really getting on my nerves now
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Azeedo on March 02, 2013, 04:49:02 PM
I can't believe we gave this game away
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Burt on March 02, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
And Real Madrid have just gone 2-1 up v Barca.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: westcliff white on March 02, 2013, 04:49:47 PM
So Senderos has given away 2 points today

!!!!AGAIN!!!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on March 02, 2013, 04:50:29 PM
Not good enough second half.. Disappointing.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Burt on March 02, 2013, 04:50:38 PM
Can't wait for the Senderos scapegoating to commence  fp.gif
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Burt on March 02, 2013, 04:51:25 PM
Man U 4 up now.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: alexbishop on March 02, 2013, 04:51:51 PM
this has been dreadful
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on March 02, 2013, 04:52:39 PM
So Senderos has given away 2 points today

Had Berba scored a pretty easy 1 on 1 it wouldn't have been an issue...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on March 02, 2013, 04:52:50 PM
2 points dropped.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on March 02, 2013, 04:53:23 PM
both Berba and Dejagagh had bad misses.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on March 02, 2013, 04:53:29 PM
Can't wait for the Senderos scapegoating to commence  fp.gif

Well tbh. It was a team effort to be as poor as we were in second half..
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: sipwell on March 02, 2013, 04:53:36 PM
this has been dreadful

Dreadful? I found it an enticing game with good chances on both sides.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Burt on March 02, 2013, 04:53:49 PM
A point away from home... I'll take that.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on March 02, 2013, 04:54:26 PM
2 key moments, Berbs miss and the dodgy penalty to them. Don't think we played well, but I also don't think we were awful and would of probably taken at draw at the start of the game it's just a shame about how we through away the 2 goal lead.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: rusty shackleford on March 02, 2013, 04:54:33 PM
on the plus side, we're in the top ten and 9 points clear. Should still be 9 points after wigan and villa play too
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Ordar on March 02, 2013, 04:55:23 PM
We should have beaten a very poor Sunderland side. One point closer to safety, but I cant wait until this season is over.

Dejagah was good again and Emanuelson very lively when he came on.

Feels like we're still missing something in centre midfield. Senderos will get alot of criticism, but we simply tried to defend the whole second half.

Duff was poor again, and Hangeland didnt have his best game. Still not convinced by the Ruiz and Berbatov partnership
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Burt on March 02, 2013, 04:55:47 PM
Can't wait for the Senderos scapegoating to commence  fp.gif

Well tbh. It was a team effort to be as poor as we were in second half..

Exactly.

But Senderos will still be the full guy.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: costarican white on March 02, 2013, 04:55:49 PM
Such a shame to waste the advantage, on the other hand a point away is not bad.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: jarv on March 02, 2013, 04:56:06 PM
i will take a point too but the disappointing thing is that sunderland are a really awful team,  gave Fulham 2 goals and still no win.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Peabody on March 02, 2013, 04:56:25 PM
Here we go again, we did not lose and that ain't good enough. What is it with you People?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: RoyTund on March 02, 2013, 04:56:51 PM
We really were not that bad.  Reverse the situation and what would your opinion be if we had played liked sunderland have just done at home?  The game turned on a great save from Berba and them getting a lucky break at the other end to equalize.  No need to scapegoat Berba (really bizarre given he now has 10 goals for us this season) or Senderos as seems the usual thing to do if we don't win.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: grandad on March 02, 2013, 04:56:58 PM
Oh well, in effect we are 10 pts from the drop zone & up & up to 10th. Reasonably happy. Surely Jol has to bring back either Hughes or Baird for that walking disaster Senderos.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: alexbishop on March 02, 2013, 04:57:14 PM
this has been dreadful

Dreadful? I found it an enticing game with good chances on both sides.

Oh come on this was two sides devoid of any confidence scrapping for a point. I don't enjoy watching Fulham when they play like this. A lot of walking around and standing still, misplaced passes and scrambling around in the penalty area trying to hold Sunderland to a point as if we were 3 divisions below them. Should have hammered them :/
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
Decent point but frustrating, we had the better chances and defended really well apart from Senderos's poor mistake. Sunderland by and large were poor. Should really have won this game.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Humbled on March 02, 2013, 05:03:24 PM
our lack of fire power through the centre at times means our right and left back push on at every oppotunity despite sometimes the positioning of the ball and players doesnt allow it... it worked for our 2nd goal but for their 2nd it didnt, Riise found himself in the striker role with no chance of getting back.

we have to become faster on the ball. Berba gets away with it cos of his brain and strength Ruiz doesnt and gets robbed of the ball ALOT and when Urby come on (and i would like to see him stat) he was robbed more than he should have been
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 05:04:08 PM
At the risk of scapegoating, and I am a bit, Duff deserves to be dropped. He's just not effective on the left flank and Dejagah can't be dropped to accommodate him. Maybe Jol feels Emanuelson isn't fit enough or isn't adapted yet? He looked a little off the pace when he came on but he still posed far more threat than Duff.
Same team but with Emanuelson for Duff.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: aaronmcguigan on March 02, 2013, 05:07:23 PM


Dreadful? I found it an enticing game with good chances on both sides.

how can you be optimistic after a game like that? Total control, then throwing it away with mistake upon mistake.
When Sunderland got level, they were only putting 1 or 2 in the box for corners as they were settling for the point, and knew we wouldnt be any threat, and we werent. As soon as Sunderland got the second goal , they had control of the whole match.

Moans
Berbatov should have scored another two. The one on one should have been placed away from the keeper, and he decided to shoot from range because he had no pace.
Riise went forward and was in the Sunderland box when mignolet saved from Berbatov, took his time getting back and left us open to Sessegnons  shot.
Dont have confidence in Senderos, seems to be good at passing back to Schwarzer and not much else. But the pen was soft, and the ref only gave it to balance the books.

subs
Duff was anonymous until he came off. Emmanuelson looked better when he came on.
Karagounis was great first half, and is an insult to the man to mention him in the same sentence as his replacement. I dont get what Frimpong brings to the team, a diving header to give a corner away when in space, losing possession too often and a bit of handball.. Think he has been learning from the school of senderos.
Dejegah should have scored and Rodallega didnt have much time to do anything.

BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE
We're in the top 10 for the first time in a long time and the counter attack goal and the willingness to get forward was a delight to see. More consistency over 90 minutes instead of sitting back and more points will come.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Lighthouse on March 02, 2013, 05:07:32 PM
What annoys me is that when we did break forward we made them look awful. But we are back to losing shape when our midfield try and support. Sorry but Ruiz behind Berbatov DOESN'T AND HASN'T WORKED. Pace wide and pace through the middle does work and would have done again today.

Swart back to his poor kicking, Frimpong awful and lucky not to give away handball and seem off the pace. Senderos his mistake a game usual.

But Dejagha continedues to look good. Players are there but we need a better formation and a striker playing as a striker
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: fulhamking on March 02, 2013, 05:10:08 PM
At the risk of scapegoating, and I am a bit, Duff deserves to be dropped. He's just not effective on the left flank and Dejagah can't be dropped to accommodate him. Maybe Jol feels Emanuelson isn't fit enough or isn't adapted yet? He looked a little off the pace when he came on but he still posed far more threat than Duff.
Same team but with Emanuelson for Duff.
+1, sometimes while watching Duff I ask myself why did Fulham offered him an extension. The guy is 34 and very ineffective as a winger. He is too slow and has not made one single cross for many games. Emmanuelson looks very quick and full of desire...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 05:11:17 PM
What annoys me is that when we did break forward we made them look awful. But we are back to losing shape when our midfield try and support. Sorry but Ruiz behind Berbatov DOESN'T AND HASN'T WORKED. Pace wide and pace through the middle does work and would have done again today.

Swart back to his poor kicking, Frimpong awful and lucky not to give away handball and seem off the pace. Senderos his mistake a game usual.

But Dejagha continedues to look good. Players are there but we need a better formation and a striker playing as a striker

Ruiz and Berba HAS worked well the past two games. Ruiz dominated today, he was excellent.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: zschwartz on March 02, 2013, 05:11:27 PM
fair enough. 3-4 clean chances, made two of them. their make-up pk aside, they didn't offer much. Riether... how determined can you be? puts everyone else to shame, dejagah aside. my head sunk a bit when rodallega made his way on, but on his wages i guess you've got to play him every few matches... can't be helped. limping into 10th, kings of the rabble.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on March 02, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
Today we suffered from away game syndrome. We played for a point in the second half. Thankfully we got it.
I don't accept the Ruiz-Berba partnership doesn't work, to me it has worked well the past two games, and the formation works fairly well. Just need a better left winger as Duff is ineffective.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Jimbobob on March 02, 2013, 05:14:49 PM
fair enough. 3-4 clean chances, made two of them. their make-up pk aside, they didn't offer much. Riether... how determined can you be? puts everyone else to shame, dejagah aside. my head sunk a bit when rodallega made his way on, but on his wages i guess you've got to play him every few matches... can't be helped. limping into 10th, kings of the rabble.

Well at least - "kings of the rabble" made me laugh!
Ridiculous how we always manage to to spit in the face of victory.
A least we held on for a damn draw which looked dicey at best...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Lighthouse on March 02, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
What annoys me is that when we did break forward we made them look awful. But we are back to losing shape when our midfield try and support. Sorry but Ruiz behind Berbatov DOESN'T AND HASN'T WORKED. Pace wide and pace through the middle does work and would have done again today.

Swart back to his poor kicking, Frimpong awful and lucky not to give away handball and seem off the pace. Senderos his mistake a game usual.

But Dejagha continedues to look good. Players are there but we need a better formation and a striker playing as a striker

Ruiz and Berba HAS worked well the past two games. Ruiz dominated today, he was excellent.

No he didn't,  he was caught on the ball far too often. I am a fan but two slow players, however talented make for a slow build up. How often did we have players in the area when needed. When we do support the forward we lose all shape. Just have to agree to disagree on this.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Denver Fulham on March 02, 2013, 05:17:24 PM
After we sold Dempsey and Dembele late in August and never replaced them in either window, our only goal this season was to stay in the league. We moved one point and one match closer to that today, and most of the table below us lost. I'm not going to sweat whether we should have nicked a match where we fell off so badly in the 2H.

We look like we're going to be safe and this summer should be very interesting.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: FFCByTheRiver on March 02, 2013, 05:22:51 PM
Top 10 guys. Top 10. There were plenty, particularly the 'old guard' of this board, cracking whips that some of us might suggest we could reach the top 10 this season. It's on.

As far as the game goes...would have taken it before. Yes we could have won, but Sunderland will be saying the same and they were the home team.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: RoyTund on March 02, 2013, 05:30:46 PM
Does anyone agree we were better than sunderland, especially with the ball??
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Lighthouse on March 02, 2013, 05:36:04 PM
Does anyone agree we were better than sunderland, especially with the ball??

Oh yes without doubt. Which is why it is frustrating when we are hanging on at the end. We are fine going foreward but we do the same thing each game. Break quickly then stop at the final third. The only time we didn't do that we scored.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: VALS on March 02, 2013, 05:50:10 PM
Its a shame , cant believe that we lose 2 goals lead !
Very shaky in defense but the main problem is Senderos.
The guy  is very,very poor player but the his biggest problem is that is very stupid too !
After 2:0 we should have finish the halftime quiet , calm and careful! Only this !
And what did this fool ?!?!?! A very fool penalty that turn  back them to game!
Stupid idiot !
And for the second goal...he left the player he supposed to keep
2 points lost! In the most stupid way !

Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: Denver Fulham on March 02, 2013, 06:01:43 PM
Oh, and Senderos' play was a foul ... which gets called about 1% of the time in the penalty area. Prototype make-up call, which was stupid because Dejagah was actually fouled (if not happy to go down).

Senderos is an oaf and I'm not thrilled to see him being run out there, but if refs call that a penalty consistently, you'll have multiple PKs a game for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: cmg on March 02, 2013, 06:10:47 PM

... limping into 10th, kings of the rabble.


No, no. 11th is 'kings of the rabble'.....10th is 'dregs of the elite'.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: A Humble Man on March 02, 2013, 06:19:30 PM
We were two nil up playing well and Senderos gave them two goals.  End of story.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: sipwell on March 02, 2013, 07:03:31 PM
We were two nil up playing well and Senderos gave them two goals.  End of story.

Two already? I thought they broke from a big goal chance on our side.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: farfouille on March 02, 2013, 07:20:34 PM
We were two nil up playing well and Senderos gave them two goals.  End of story.

+1

I will never understand why:
1. Senderos starts.
2. Emanuelson doesn't.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: fulhamking on March 02, 2013, 07:38:14 PM
Its a shame , cant believe that we lose 2 goals lead !
Very shaky in defense but the main problem is Senderos.
The guy  is very,very poor player but the his biggest problem is that is very stupid too !
After 2:0 we should have finish the halftime quiet , calm and careful! Only this !
And what did this fool ?!?!?! A very fool penalty that turn  back them to game!
Stupid idiot !
And for the second goal...he left the player he supposed to keep
2 points lost! In the most stupid way !


Dont worry about it too much. The ref gave the penalty for Sunderland as a payback for our penalty. I dont think the ref had a great game today, nevertheless, it was a stupid by Senderos to do what he did...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: fulhamking on March 02, 2013, 07:40:05 PM
We were two nil up playing well and Senderos gave them two goals.  End of story.

+1

I will never understand why:
1. Senderos starts.
2. Emanuelson doesn't.

Abso-flipping-lutely. +1. EMANUELSON ON FOR DUFF. FIGURE IT OUT QUICKLY  JOL.....
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: VALS on March 02, 2013, 07:47:41 PM
We were two nil up playing well and Senderos gave them two goals.  End of story.

Cant say it better, mate , absolutely right !
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: VALS on March 02, 2013, 08:04:10 PM
Its a shame , cant believe that we lose 2 goals lead !
Very shaky in defense but the main problem is Senderos.
The guy  is very,very poor player but the his biggest problem is that is very stupid too !
After 2:0 we should have finish the halftime quiet , calm and careful! Only this !
And what did this fool ?!?!?! A very fool penalty that turn  back them to game!
Stupid idiot !
And for the second goal...he left the player he supposed to keep
2 points lost! In the most stupid way !


Dont worry about it too much. The ref gave the penalty for Sunderland as a payback for our penalty. I dont think the ref had a great game today, nevertheless, it was a stupid by Senderos to do what he did...

Yes, mate, I agree that the ref did it for the compensation BUT Senderos made it in the stupidest way, in front of  ref eyes !!! And its not for the first time he doing not only mistakes but STUPID THINGS  !
We lost 2 points because his stupidity !

And want to give my opinion that the comby Berba/Ruiz work for me . Brian is second in the team by creativity after Berba , and when they both are on the pitch its very difficult for the opposite team and Berba have chance to play  like a 9 , not like a AM.....we loosing his predatory instinct when playing him like AM to fill a gap .....just my opinion !
Title: Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
Post by: A Humble Man on March 03, 2013, 07:05:41 AM
A Statto will tell us but we have led in so many games this season and have not won that it defy belief.  If we had won half of those we would be in a European place, which is what our quality of attacking deserves.

But whose fault is this:

The defence, the midfield not helping the defence enough, the system we are playing, Senderos, Hangeland, the manager, the fans, the owner or all of the above.