Seems like a replay of the Newcastle game. No attacking threat again. No pace in MF or the wings. It´s all Villa.
Had moments of decent passing and possession, but just chasing the ball now for the last 15 min, can hear the clock ticking. Its only a matter of time for Villa.
Goalless in all the prem matches so far...
My god its a boring game
I would take a point...!
Match of the Day will be a cracker tonight...
At least QPHA are losing
some nice football in the build up to the first berbatov chance there.
Thats more like it...
It's been like the Newcastle game, just with a worse first half performance. Only Schwarzer has stood out as doing anything good.
Nice play from Ruiz/Berba and Emmanuelson/Berba just then though. First chance since probably the same point in last week's game :(
what happened to Duff?
Richardson is having a good game, Manolev looks decent enough to make it a game
We need to play way better second half if we want anything of this game.
Quote from: sunburywhite on April 13, 2013, 03:48:54 PM
what happened to Duff?
Gota a groin injury in the first 5
Quote from: sunburywhite on April 13, 2013, 03:48:54 PM
what happened to Duff?
Looked like a groin injury, about the 10th minute he came off..
Game not really taken off yet. Feel we need to be a bit more adventurous and try and score. Berba coming too deep because he's getting no service.
Emanuelson with a much improved performance and fair play to him. It's interesting that whenever he gets the opportunity he's aiming to make forward central runs, almost like a poacher. Could get a goal from him.
We have no intention of going forward in that first half. One player has the ball and gets No support. Our style of play away is just not worth seeing. Ruiz is not used where it hurts. Berbatov is too deep blah blah blah. Oh well so much for my prediction of a shock win. We will be lucky to see another chance go our way. Until we fall behind then we will.
We have at least got to give it a bit of a go . Urby & Manolev show no idea about driving forward. Ruiz cant do everything on his own. Berba is isolated.
Urby showed what he can do when he gets out wide. We need to stretch the game width-wise and we might create more clear-cut chances.
Quote from: grandad on April 13, 2013, 03:51:33 PM
We have at least got to give it a bit of a go . Urby & Manolev show no idea about driving forward. Ruiz cant do everything on his own. Berba is isolated.
I think Urby has been trying to drive forwards, and looks the most likely to, it just hasn't always been coming off. Ruiz has been woeful though, and I'm usually a big fan - pushed off the ball all he time, easy passes misplaced, impossible passes attempted.
Ruiz looks like playing behind Emanuelson.
Things need to go back to normal with him behind Berbs.
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We sit back so deep. Just asking villa to score a goal...
Quote from: God The Mechanic on April 13, 2013, 03:55:44 PM
Quote from: grandad on April 13, 2013, 03:51:33 PM
We have at least got to give it a bit of a go . Urby & Manolev show no idea about driving forward. Ruiz cant do everything on his own. Berba is isolated.
I think Urby has been trying to drive forwards, and looks the most likely to, it just hasn't always been coming off. Ruiz has been woeful though, and I'm usually a big fan - pushed off the ball all he time, easy passes misplaced, impossible passes attempted.
I said it's a mix he also a a few good passes
Frustrating isn't it? Can't stand it when we sit back so deeply at times. Watching us play is bad for your health sometimes.
At least my two moggies are chilled at the moment.
I bet Ruiz is going to stay up second half.
Emanuelson on the wing
Berbs to stay much further up.
Karagounis needs to get more involved
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I don't understand the decision to bring on manolev, surely moving richardson forward and bringing on riise would of been the better option? or even Frei? Manolev doesn't do it for me.
COYW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh dear! here we go again.
We try to play some tippy tappy passing in the middle of the pitch, we refuse to put the villa defense under pressure by actually being positive in and around their box and we try to keep the ball, only to give it away and hand chances on a plate for the opposition.
Berba should have scored. Fantastic through ball from Ruiz, way more like it!
I'm hoping that this will be a triumph for experience over youth. COYW!
Berba hit the post from a super ball from Ruiz. This is a bit better.
Berba really should have scored. Will we get another chance
Good finish We deserve that for being so negative (just like last week)
Damn
Serves us damn well right.
Sitting back like a bag of dicks!
Like I said, only a matter of time. Fitting it was N'Zogbia, he has been peppering Mark all match.
I *think* that's that.
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Yep game set and match!
Well we where asking for that...
Manelov i dont like and still playing with no strikers on the pitch as usual...
Berba given the ball away 35 yards from goal, for the Hugo haters the exact run he wanted was one only Rodders seems to make for us!!
Ugh, just as the forwards were starting to look dangerous. Really poor clearance from Hangeland (had that been Senderos...) and a decent finish from Insomnia.
Need to step up now.
Same old same old away from home!!
:dead horse:
I honestly give up, that's my contribution to the remainder of the season finished. Pathetic! fp.gif
so many obvious things wrong in todays game.......
At least QPR are two down now.
Norwich have gone a goal up at the Emirates...
And Southampton a goal up against WHU....
This is pathetic...
Ruiz get on the efffffing weights...... so frustrating to watch he really is
F me.... And we play Chelsea next. Could be 3 losses.... :( :( :(
Plenty of time. COYW 049:gif
Have to rely on an OG...
well if we can't score.. Thanks to Delph.
Luck!
That is why Ruiz needs to be taking ALL set pieces, his delivery is more often than not fantastic.
i will be suprised if there isnt more goals in this game... 2 poor/uncodordinated defences
so wrong but thats what can happen on a corner, nervy business, good delivery
Yeeeeeeeeees
Please don't sit back. Let's attack and take the 3 points.
I'll take that - don't care whether its one of ours or theirs...
Quote from: God The Mechanic on April 13, 2013, 04:24:01 PM
That is why Ruiz needs to be taking ALL set pieces, his delivery is more often than not fantastic.
some people will find good in everything... lol
granted it was a goal but as a cross not getting passed the 1st man is poor... i guess u could blame runners tho
Quote from: JIMMY D on April 13, 2013, 04:24:59 PM
Please don't sit back. Let's attack and take the 3 points.
God yes... Hate this sitting back, we are crap at that.
I think we're playing well, this is a Villa team that have hit a bit of form and we've controlled it this half. Don't know why there's such negativity
West Ham have equalised - Carroll.
Quote from: Boggers on April 13, 2013, 04:26:31 PM
I think we're playing well, this is a Villa team that have hit a bit of form and we've controlled it this half. Don't know why there's such negativity
except it could be 5-2 to them and prob should be ;-)
No way - that should have been goal !
Petric needs a right foot. Really don't like it how so many professional footballers are that one-footed.
Thats the one thing I had going, I was equally good or well - poor with both feet :D
Quote from: God The Mechanic on April 13, 2013, 04:28:26 PM
Petric needs a right foot. Really don't like it how so many professional footballers are that one-footed.
This is so hard to watch!!!!!!! Ruiz needs to start shooting
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Quit giving the damn ball away!!!!!
Petric will score
How well did Berba and Manolev do hen, for there to be only Petric in the box. Insanely frustrating!
Looking at an empty box..
#facepalm
Quote from: Aaron on April 13, 2013, 04:38:33 PM
Looking at an empty box..
#facepalm
go back to threads from xmas!!!
Horrible. Might as well shoot and see if you can win the corner...
some of Senderos defending is crazy.... he doesnt like using his head does he
C´mon the points are for the taking.
Bring on some pace, please.
cant believe we gave then the easy gol
Arteta pen at the Emirates - Arsenal 1-1 Norwich
I don't get it. Why not bring on a bit of pace to hit them on the break. We really are asking for a repeat of last week.
Bring on Hugo!
Need fresh legs Jol!
Time to start chewing those nails lads....
How many passes are we going to give away????
Arsenal have just taken the lead - Giroud
Oh my goshhhhhhhhh.....every defender was standing on the goal line
This will be 2 points dropped (providing Villa dont score). Villa are a poor side, but our over defensive tactics yet again away from home has cost us.
I still dont think Ruiz and Berbatov works as a striking partnership, ESPECIALLY when we have no pace on the wings.
Saying all that, Berbatov and Petric both missed fantastic chances to score.
Risse on so as usual trying to hang on.
Riise will deal with the inevitable bombardment of crosses better than Richardson.
Can't watch
Please Lord don't let it happen AGAIN
I cannot for the life of me understand why we invite so much pressure in the last ten mins of games
Jol out
Quote from: Ordar on April 13, 2013, 04:47:42 PM
This will be 2 points dropped (providing Villa dont score). Villa are a poor side, but our over defensive tactics yet again away from home has cost us.
I still dont think Ruiz and Berbatov works as a striking partnership, ESPECIALLY when we have no pace on the wings.
Saying all that, Berbatov and Petric both missed fantastic chances to score.
got to be honest bored of saying it now mate.....
I am SOOOO tired of playing for ties!!!
I'll take a point away at Villa, but we weren't very good at all.
Arsenal 3-1 up
40 points!!
It wasn't pretty, but what the hell.
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I'll take it. Probably 1 point more than we deserved considering we only really attacked for like 15 minutes.
Wow a draw which we sucked big time. Play like that against the scum and we will get smashed!
1 point and we should be thankful, that was poor once again.
Bloody frustrating again. It's clear we have the better team and skill but are so negative and slow.
Surely the Ha's must be all but down after losing at Goodison.
Thank God there was only 3 mins of added on time.
Over all a good result against a team we have never beaten at their place & who are playing for their lives.
Never going to be easy with our injuries so fair play to the lads in the 2nd half.
Quote from: Ordar on April 13, 2013, 04:47:42 PM
This will be 2 points dropped (providing Villa dont score). Villa are a poor side, but our over defensive tactics yet again away from home has cost us.
I still dont think Ruiz and Berbatov works as a striking partnership, ESPECIALLY when we have no pace on the wings.
Saying all that, Berbatov and Petric both missed fantastic chances to score.
Villa aren't a poor side at all. Benteke, Agbonlahor and Weimann is a lethal attacking trio. Defensively they aren't great though. Can't help but feel the loss of Duff and Dejagah has hampered us. Manolev looks every bit like a right back playing right wing and he never beats his man.
16 points away from home from 17 games is quite a good return. 10 teams have lost more than us.
Nice to see Petric back but had Rodders missed that chance then he would be out on his ear. Still not sure why we don't play a forward alongside Berbatov. We play so deep with Ruiz not being used where it will hurt teams.
Quote from: tslyon on April 13, 2013, 04:51:33 PM
I am SOOOO tired of playing for ties!!!
In that case, play for shirts !
Agbonlahor didn't play, and that was one hell of a bonus imo.
There's nowhere near enough pace or drive in the tam. Enoh provides some drive, but he's a bit too defensive to have any real impact up top - combine him with Kara and that'd be one hell of a player. Ruiz, Berba and Petric are just too one paced to really function without either pacy wingers or someone driving through the middle.
Positives were Schwarzers first 80 mins (seriously, what happened with those punches in the last 10), Enoh again looked pretty decent and Senderos had another pretty comfortable game.
Negatives were definitely Duff's injury (unless it means Frei gets more gametime, but missing two first choice wingers isn't fun), Reither and Hangeland weren't as good as they have been recently and offensively in the first 40 minutes there was just nothing.
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 13, 2013, 04:59:56 PM
Nice to see Petric back but had Rodders missed that chance then he would be out on his ear. Still not sure why we don't play a forward alongside Berbatov. We play so deep with Ruiz not being used where it will hurt teams.
Agreed he should've scored, poor miss, very poor. Berba's was poor too.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on April 13, 2013, 05:02:23 PM
Agbonlahor didn't play, and that was one hell of a bonus imo.
There's nowhere near enough pace or drive in the tam. Enoh provides some drive, but he's a bit too defensive to have any real impact up top - combine him with Kara and that'd be one hell of a player. Ruiz, Berba and Petric are just too one paced to really function without either pacy wingers or someone driving through the middle.
Positives were Schwarzers first 80 mins (seriously, what happened with those punches in the last 10), Enoh again looked pretty decent and Senderos had another pretty comfortable game.
Negatives were definitely Duff's injury (unless it means Frei gets more gametime, but missing two first choice wingers isn't fun), Reither hasn't looked as good recently and offensively in the first 40 minutes there was just nothing.
Really missed Ashkan Dejagah today, and no one more than Sascha Riether. People really underestimate how important having Dejagah in front of him is to Riether's game.
Personally I don't mind Berba dropping into the hole from time to time. He can pick a decisive pass and create chances, but of course it only works if someone takes his place up top. Ruiz needs to do this as do the wingers. I'm wondering how Ruiz got 24 goals in the Eredivisie, he barely ever shoots. And he's a good finisher so it's frustrating.
So true. Ruiz has not taken a shot for good long time...
Sounds like we're commenting on a handful of chances??? Maybe it's me?, but I think we should be creating a lot more than what I heard GJ talking about... Too many times I hear its all about the opposing team, and us with the odd attack once in a while...
We are 3rd on in MOTD. Another good result I suppose.
Quote from: Luffy86 on April 13, 2013, 05:19:34 PM
Sounds like we're commenting on a handful of chances??? Maybe it's me?, but I think we should be creating a lot more than what I heard GJ talking about... Too many times I hear its all about the opposing team, and us with the odd attack once in a while...
True, we don't create enough considering we have Ruiz and Berba in our team.
I thought Richardson was good today, wouldn't mind him as our first choice left back for next season in fact I'd be happy if our back four is as started today next season.
I think our problem area right now is the wingers, Manolev looks like a right back and Emmanuelson flits in and out of the game. You can see his quality at times, but he's not quite got going. Dejagah of course has been a big loss, but I think we're in a bit of a difficult situation with them. We've got 3 promising young wingers in Kaca, Frei and to a lesser extent Mesca who I think Jol is relying on one of them to really break through and cement themselves a first team place. None of them have really done it yet and I don't think we can go into next season with only them 3, Duff and Dejagah as our wingers with the fill in players like Hugo and Richardson.
I'm very happy with the point, especially with Southampton and West Ham drawing. We sounded much better in the 2nd Half (G. Jim).
We were much better in the second half. I wonder what channel you were all watching on? The Undertakers' Network?
Enoh was rock solid with a nice way of switching the direction of play.
Urbu had a very decent game. In the first half he gathered the ball by the corner flag with his back to goal. He turned on a sixpence, skinned the right back and laid the ball back on a silver platter for Berbatov to hit a goulash of a shot slow and wide of the post. Most unusual.
In fact, Ruiz, Petric, Berbatov - all had good chances that they probably would have put away on most other days. But, it certainly wasn't the bore fest most on here seem to have watched.
Berbatov? Some of his lay-offs and passes were sublime. Shame about his shooting boots. Still worth the entrance price alone.
Villa weren't a bad young side either. Their inexperience cost them the two points with panic in front of goal where cooler, older heads might have prevailed.
One good point made earlier was about Schwartzer. He made two or three fantastic saves in the first half, another top set of finger tips in the second but then he looked like a Hackney Marshes keeper with two limp punches in the final ten minutes.
For the record, Hangeland made two more serious defensive errors from which they should have scored to Senderos's one small lapse. Other than that, the handsome straight-eyed Swiss played well.
Oh yes, another very intelligent comment above was how useful Urbu's older brother looked at left back. I think Riise might be toast next year.
Ruiz was Ruiz. Brilliant one moment, poor the next. He's still capable of turning matches around single-handedly though.
Finally, Manolev. I would prefer not to see him play on the wing. Her has a poor final ball and is not on the same wavelength as the rest of the team. Still, he's new and probably doesn't speak much English, so I'll trust Jol's judgement more than I would mine.
Nogood "why so much glummitude is beyond me, itis" Boyo
Decent result, but like last week at Newcastle, we were too one dimensional up front.
Ruiz and Berba are too similar. There's no real penetration or runs from deep from both of them and that makes our attacking play too predictable, especially because we were playing without true wingers. We lacked pace, attacking runs and penetration.
Since we are home and dry now, i would like Jol to try Ruiz behind Berba and Rodallega or another 'running' forward. If we can combine the vision and creativity of Ruiz and Berba with pace and runs we can really improve!
I've never thought that much about Berbertov but viewed him form the side today instead of the Putney end, i was amazed how good his ball control was.
