Fulham: Schwarzer; Manolev, Senderos, Hangeland, Richardson; Enoh, Sidwell; Ruiz, Emanuelson, Kacaniklic; Berbatov
Subs: Etheridge, Riise, Hughes, Karagounis, Frei, Rodallega, Petric
Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Arteta, Ramsey, Rosicky, Cazorla, Walcott, Giroud
Subs: Mannone, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Wilshere, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gervinho, Podolski
Streams: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=195971&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=195971&part=sports)
Pretty good line up. Gutted about Riether though.
COYW give it a real go.
Yep win, lose or draw, let's have a go and as we did at the start of the Chelscum match. And keep it up until the final minute.
Hi everyone. I'm not holding me breath for anything from today's game. Just hoping we go for it.
Reither was limping badly at end of chelsea game.
Such a shame about Riether - but COYWs!
I see Uncle Woy is in the stands. Seems happy to be back.. but without the stress.
Excelent run from Manolev.. Kaca should have played it better... It was a goal damn it..
I like how Gentleman Jim has been calling Monreal ... Monorail!
Quote from: T.G. on April 20, 2013, 03:03:38 PM
Excelent run from Manolev.. Kaca should have played it better... It was a goal damn it..
Yeh that should have really been a goal..
The way Ian Darke pronounces Cazorla as "Cathorla" like some Castilian twit is irritating as poo. fp.gif
Sidwell red again... sigh
Sidwell is a complete moron - again
Oh well.. Figures.
Yeah... well played Sidwell.
F*****g idiot Sidwell!
Sidwell you brain dead f'in moron.
Oh loving really sidwell
love off Sidwell. Im startimg to believe Joey Barton would be better in a challenge. Useless .
Quote from: LordNelson on April 20, 2013, 03:11:03 PM
The way Ian Darke pronounces Cazorla as "Cathorla" like some Castilian twit is irritating as sh1t. fp.gif
It always makes me cringe when you Engländers try to pronounce names. Spanish ones are usually the worst. Also it's stupid when someone pronounces Ruiz as "Ruith", as the z=th is only in European Spanish.
Also, ffs Sidwell.
Well, that's that then. Might as well all go home now. We'll finish with 9 men.
Good Lord, why even watch now. This will be either boring as watching grass grow or a felonious blood-letting.
Well done Sidwell. First time in the PL that a Fulham player has had back to back red cards?
Time to move along next season.
Sidwell a bit unlucky but we can all go home now.
Was it a justified red? I'm not watching the stream.
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 20, 2013, 03:17:33 PM
Sidwell a bit unlucky but we can all go home now.
Really? Was a clear red, completely unnecessary.
Thank goodness Fulham are safe. Looks like another toothless performance, got 3-0 + written all over it. I'm off, got things to do, will check back in at 1/2 time.
I have never rated Sidwell and always expected him to get a yellow every game but this is absurd. Ship him out at the end of the season
I reckon we'll lose this by at least 3 goals. Our plucky lads are going to be knackered before half-time.
I hope the cottage booed him as he headed down the tunnel.
Berba should have scored...
Quote from: Ordar on April 20, 2013, 03:18:24 PM
Was it a justified red? I'm not watching the stream.
Not the worst in the world but defn justified. Absolutely unnecessary on Sidwell's part--so frustrating.
Berba good effort. Keep it up.
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Really? Was a clear red, completely unnecessary.
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Yes. Dead cert red
It's the same tackle he did against QPR, lunging in from afar. You can debate the merits of it being a red all you want, but you have to be an absolute moron to do it again, 12 minutes into your comeback game. Completely inexcusable, and that should hopefully be that for his Fulham career.
Berba should have scored then too, or at least made it more of a difficult save.
Oh, and that's is definitely the end of any possible hopes of Fair Play Europa League qualification :P
I'm gobsmacked ! Just tuned in to Gentleman Jim, and the first thing I heard was ".....down to ten men......"
It defies belief !
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Quote from: Ordar on April 20, 2013, 03:18:24 PM
Was it a justified red? I'm not watching the stream.
Not the worst in the world but defn justified. Absolutely unnecessary on Sidwell's part--so frustrating.
Correct decision, but quite often you see players in the "big" teams getting away with just a yellow for similar challenges...
Quote from: God The Mechanic on April 20, 2013, 03:25:05 PM
It's the same tackle he did against QPR, lunging in from afar. You can debate the merits of it being a red all you want, but you have to be an absolute moron to do it again, 12 minutes into your comeback game. Completely inexcusable, and that should hopefully be that for his Fulham career.
Berba should have scored then too, or at least made it more of a difficult save.
No it isn't. The QPR tackle wasn't a red, he pulled out of the tackle and studs were not showing.
On the positive side, Kaca looks very sharp so far!
Quote from: FFCfan on April 20, 2013, 03:31:53 PM
On the positive side, Kaca looks very sharp so far!
It's amazing what a little pace on the wings will do to open up space in the middle!
I think we are playing quite well tbh. we are holding possession in good areas of the pitch, we just look very outnumbered when they break with pace (obviously we will with 10 men). emaneulson and kaca are looking sharp, giving monreal and sagna alot of trouble
Considering Sidwell may well have cocked this up for us, we are looking good, everyone putting in a real effort out there. Just depends how long we can last
Ruiz obviously have no clue how to mark a player on a set piece :(
For feck's sake.
ANOTHER set piece, this is all too predictable now
It was so obvious that that was going to go in, at that time of the game, with half time near.
... at least QPR are losing against Stoke.
Not learned anything from the last match.
Why on earth was Ruiz given the task to mark Kosielny? Madness. That said you won't see a more feeble attempt to defend a set piece by a player than that.
so, if Arse-nil beat us, and Liverpool beat us at home, and we lose on the road... we might get drawn again into relegation battle. The ref sucks... all calls Arsenal way. No way a red card.
Played well until the set piece. But I would take Berbatov off and put on Rodders just to give him a run and stretch Arsenal if we can.
Not sure if the Enoh foul was a foul that lead to the goal. But all in all a spirited reaction for Fulham.
Very very disappointing. But if we keep at it we may score ourselves.
Quote from: Fulham_Surrey on April 20, 2013, 03:49:00 PM
so, if Arse-nil beat us, and Liverpool beat us at home, and we lose on the road... we might get drawn again into relegation battle. The ref sucks... all calls Arsenal way. No way a red card.
Mate, that was such a red, he might as well have been wearing a sign saying please eject me now.
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 20, 2013, 03:50:55 PM
Played well until the set piece. But I would take Berbatov off and put on Rodders just to give him a run and stretch Arsenal if we can.
Not sure if the Enoh foul was a foul that lead to the goal. But all in all a spirited reaction for Fulham.
Madness. When you have 10 men you have to keep the ball, who is better at keeping the ball in our squad than Berba? Rodders will give the ball away at every opportunity with his donkey touch.
Sidwell is an IDIOT. 2 foot challenge. Emanuelsson and Kaca are the key now to get something out from the game.
There is no way on earth that Arsenal deserve to be in the lead..If there's justice we'll get at least 1 point from this game..
Schwarzer's distribution again hasn't been great, really needs to be in this game now.
What a shame. A good lineup, good attitude, undone by a rash tackle by a player with a target on his back. Manolev doing a good imitation of Riether, but Berba...c'mon, man, suck it up, you don't make every play either.
As for Ruiz, can't defend, can't score, why did we pay so much for him?
Doubt we will see Sidwell again this season
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Quote from: Lighthouse on April 20, 2013, 03:50:55 PM
Played well until the set piece. But I would take Berbatov off and put on Rodders just to give him a run and stretch Arsenal if we can.
Not sure if the Enoh foul was a foul that lead to the goal. But all in all a spirited reaction for Fulham.
Madness. When you have 10 men you have to keep the ball, who is better at keeping the ball in our squad than Berba? Rodders will give the ball away at every opportunity with his donkey touch.
064.gif Berbatov keep the ball? Is this meant to be ironic? EVERYTHING he has done today is not keep the ball and moan. He runs into offsides positions giving us no option but to look for another pass. He is no good with ten men. This love affair with him is fine but he needs a rest as we are going to lose and give some other players a chance to break with pace.
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Played well until the set piece. But I would take Berbatov off and put on Rodders just to give him a run and stretch Arsenal if we can.
Not sure if the Enoh foul was a foul that lead to the goal. But all in all a spirited reaction for Fulham.
Madness. When you have 10 men you have to keep the ball, who is better at keeping the ball in our squad than Berba? Rodders will give the ball away at every opportunity with his donkey touch.
064.gif Berbatov keep the ball? Is this meant to be ironic? EVERYTHING he has done today is not keep the ball and moan. He runs into offsides positions giving us no option but to look for another pass. He is no good with ten men. This love affair with him is fine but he needs a rest as we are going to lose and give some other players a chance to break with pace.
Light, what is your point exactly? to rest the best player Fulham has? And replace him with whom, Baird(inho). People here amuse me sometimes. Many are calling Sidwell great middfielder, which is an insult to the place called middfield. He is bellow average who costed Fulham points this season. I am not saying that he had some good moments, but he is poor.
We are going to lose today. So my point is rest Berbatov and allow Rodders to come on as he has no game time and needs it.
We are NOT going to lose today. Hugo is like a headless chicken, running back and forth - going to give us nothing. Petric's been shocking vs Chelsea.. So keep Berba to keep our chances alive.
Good things today is that Urby, despite his dive just now and Kaka have looked good.
E>N>O>H :)
Arteta should have had a 2nd yellow. Oh , I forgot we are playing one of the top 4 teams.
Looks like we've given up now
Quote from: Baider on April 20, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
Looks like we've given up now
No we havn´t. It´s all Fulham now. We are giving it a real go. Credit to the lads.
Manolev is absolutely amazing. We are giving it all we deserve point why not 3
Whatever the result our makeshift side can hold their heads up high. They don´t deserve to lose.
Ever so proud of the boys. Great performance. If Sidwell would've stayed on, we'd won 3-0. COYW.
That was played tactically very well imo. Yes Arsenal had a truckload of possession but never looked dangerous with it. The 15 or so minutes towards the end of the game could have resulted in a deserved equaliser.
Just a shame about the set piece at the end of the first half.
You know what I'm not too unhappy with that performance. Played some of the best football of the season at times.
Everyone had a good game but plaudits have to go to Urby and both full backs. Manolev looks far better at right back and certainly looks good cover, whilst Richardson looks more and more likely to make it as our left back. As for Urby, one can only hope somehow we'll get him next season but if not it was a joy to see him play today.
Yeah lots of good points. Very spirited. I still don't get the point of bringing Petric on and taking pace off in Kaka. But then Berbatov off side every time did nothing for me in the second half.
Still as Wigan lost we don't slip closer to the bottom three.
Yes that is what I am concerned about in the poorest of seasons.
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 20, 2013, 03:58:01 PM
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Played well until the set piece. But I would take Berbatov off and put on Rodders just to give him a run and stretch Arsenal if we can.
Not sure if the Enoh foul was a foul that lead to the goal. But all in all a spirited reaction for Fulham.
Madness. When you have 10 men you have to keep the ball, who is better at keeping the ball in our squad than Berba? Rodders will give the ball away at every opportunity with his donkey touch.
064.gif Berbatov keep the ball? Is this meant to be ironic? EVERYTHING he has done today is not keep the ball and moan. He runs into offsides positions giving us no option but to look for another pass. He is no good with ten men. This love affair with him is fine but he needs a rest as we are going to lose and give some other players a chance to break with pace.
And this hatred of him is irrational.
Frustrating. Brilliant performance considering, one brief slip in concentration and it cost us. Credit to the midfield in particular who put in a magnificent shift and really took the game to Arsenal. Only gripe is that Berba should have come off today.
So, So proud of the lads. Apart from their somewhat fortunate goal we created all the chances. Their GK saved their blushes.
Enoh MOTM by far.
The theme of this season: WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN :dft007: :dft004:
I loved the way we kept running despite having just 10. Arsenal's alleged strength in the final 20 minutes was well seen off with repeated attacks on their goal.
What can you say about Sidwell? ...apart from the fact he has just devised another way for a single player to torpedo a super team effort against the kind of side where we need every man playing to his utmost.
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Played well until the set piece. But I would take Berbatov off and put on Rodders just to give him a run and stretch Arsenal if we can.
Not sure if the Enoh foul was a foul that lead to the goal. But all in all a spirited reaction for Fulham.
Madness. When you have 10 men you have to keep the ball, who is better at keeping the ball in our squad than Berba? Rodders will give the ball away at every opportunity with his donkey touch.
064.gif Berbatov keep the ball? Is this meant to be ironic? EVERYTHING he has done today is not keep the ball and moan. He runs into offsides positions giving us no option but to look for another pass. He is no good with ten men. This love affair with him is fine but he needs a rest as we are going to lose and give some other players a chance to break with pace.
And this hatred of him is irrational.
I know you are frustrated as we all are. But saying I hate Berbatov is a bit childish. Berba is a great player but he looked very tired and was caught offside more often than not. He should have been replaced IMO and not by Petric. But I know people only ever see Berbatov as he was five years ago. That's fine. I don't hate him and am happy you see things as you do.
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Played well until the set piece. But I would take Berbatov off and put on Rodders just to give him a run and stretch Arsenal if we can.
Not sure if the Enoh foul was a foul that lead to the goal. But all in all a spirited reaction for Fulham.
Madness. When you have 10 men you have to keep the ball, who is better at keeping the ball in our squad than Berba? Rodders will give the ball away at every opportunity with his donkey touch.
064.gif Berbatov keep the ball? Is this meant to be ironic? EVERYTHING he has done today is not keep the ball and moan. He runs into offsides positions giving us no option but to look for another pass. He is no good with ten men. This love affair with him is fine but he needs a rest as we are going to lose and give some other players a chance to break with pace.
And this hatred of him is irrational.
I know you are frustrated as we all are. But saying I hate Berbatov is a bit childish. Berba is a great player but he looked very tired and was caught offside more often than not. He should have been replaced IMO and not by Petric. But I know people only ever see Berbatov as he was five years ago. That's fine. I don't hate him and am happy you see things as you do.
:plus one: :plus one: :plus one: Berba's only accomplishment today was getting caught offside. He's a great player but today was not his kind of game. Rodallega, as poor as his touch may have been, would at least have harried defenders and really should have gotten on the pitch today. Couldn't have done any worse than Berba had he did.
On that performance it's a must that we try to buy Enoh and Emanuelson in the summer. If we can get a Murpheyesque kind of player to play next to Enoh next season we could do very well.. Best thing today was Wigan losing. If they lose their next one i don't think they will get to 40 points..
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 20, 2013, 05:04:11 PM
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Played well until the set piece. But I would take Berbatov off and put on Rodders just to give him a run and stretch Arsenal if we can.
Not sure if the Enoh foul was a foul that lead to the goal. But all in all a spirited reaction for Fulham.
Madness. When you have 10 men you have to keep the ball, who is better at keeping the ball in our squad than Berba? Rodders will give the ball away at every opportunity with his donkey touch.
064.gif Berbatov keep the ball? Is this meant to be ironic? EVERYTHING he has done today is not keep the ball and moan. He runs into offsides positions giving us no option but to look for another pass. He is no good with ten men. This love affair with him is fine but he needs a rest as we are going to lose and give some other players a chance to break with pace.
And this hatred of him is irrational.
I know you are frustrated as we all are. But saying I hate Berbatov is a bit childish. Berba is a great player but he looked very tired and was caught offside more often than not. He should have been replaced IMO and not by Petric. But I know people only ever see Berbatov as he was five years ago. That's fine. I don't hate him and am happy you see things as you do.
You often criticise him for being a luxury player etc. He did fine today.
He may've been a bit frustrating but he is the best striker we have by a long shot.
The Arsenal guy next to me was very impressed with Bryan
Quote from: Berserker on April 20, 2013, 05:39:30 PM
The Arsenal guy next to me was very impressed with Bryan
Ruiz or Eno(h)?..
Ruiz, well no.11, He asked who he was as he thought he had great ball control. No.11 is Ruiz isn't it?
So our no11 can't shot (or score), cross a corner in stoppage time when we are pressing, still after almost two seasons needs more time than he will every get in the Premier League, can't tackle and defend but he does have great ball control.
Do you think Arsene will give us the money we paid to take him off our hands? No thought not