You guys are really bad. Honestly. Start match threads.
Fulham: Schwarzer, Riether, Senderos, Hangeland, Riise, Duff, Karagounis, Enoh, Emanuelson, Ruiz, Berbatov.
Subs: Etheridge, Frimpong, Richardson, Hughes, Rodallega, Manolev, Kacaniklic.
Reading: McCarthy, Kelly, Morrison, Mariappa, Gunter, Guthrie, Karacan, McCleary, Robson-Kanu, McAnuff, Pogrebnyak.
Subs: Taylor, Pearce, Le Fondre, Hunt, Harte, Carrico, Blackman.
Referee: Neil Swarbrick (Lancashire)
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=200592&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=200592&part=sports)
Looks as if Hull are promoted.
If we don't win this game and win it in style, we have a lot of work to do in preparation for next year.
COYW!
Bad miss from Ruiz early on. Should have buried that
Great defending from Riise to head that out.
Urgh. We've been very sloppy, and thats pathetic from Riise
We rae making Reading look good WtF
Now we have our work cut out
outside the area...
Unbelievably sluggish
Quick game: Put these words in an order that expresses how we play at the moment ----
foot - shooting - keep- the - ourselves - in
I wish Jol would stop playing Ruiz as a number 10 behind Berbatov. The number of times it has been effective this season can be counted in one hand. Ruiz's goal return is pathetic for a forward.
He either learns to play wide properly or doesnt play. The attack is too slow with them both up front.
Hmmm...
I have a lot to do today. Do I really need to watch this?
Duff & Risse come in & between them gift a goal.
Anyone got a decent stream?
Statisticians Opta: "5 - Fulham have won just five points from losing positions in the Premier League this season; fewer than any other side. Shock."
Quote from: Lighthouse on May 04, 2013, 02:52:27 PM
Looks as if Hull are promoted.
Yep, not a bad match either, they dominated the 2nd half completely and not a fishing pole or golf club in sight.
Good time for Riise to score his first goal for us
Quote from: Sector9 on May 04, 2013, 03:18:39 PM
Anyone got a decent stream?
This one is great for me at the moment
http://cricfree.tv/live-sports-streaming-ch5.php (http://cricfree.tv/live-sports-streaming-ch5.php)
Another utterly pathetic performance from us at the moment
Wigan losing. Thank god
This Formation just might work out
We are at home to a relegated team & should be bossing it. Terrible performance, from virtually everyone except Enoh.
Ruiz is so poor. We were robbed for £10mill
Quote from: Baider on May 04, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
Ruiz is so poor. We were robbed for £10mill
+1 I've totally given up on him
Stop Press, Senderos is fouling at every moment and Ruiz will/can not pass the ball
If we dont stump up the 4m for Enoh I'm going to be very frustrated.
You know what? Ruiz is crap.. I really hope we can cash in for him this summer if the paper talk is any substance. He's just not the player I thought he was.
Wigan 1-1 now.
Have we got our last points of the season? What's the lowest we can finish? 16th?
Hair driers, kettles, toasters at half time.
wouldnt be too upset if Ruiz were to move on in the summer
Reading haven't won a game in 3 months...
By and large woeful. Riise and Duff are rubbish as I predicted. That lack of pace is killing us. Why Martin?
Well that was pretty shameful. At least Jol realised we were rubbish and has tried to change things early.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on May 04, 2013, 03:46:18 PM
wouldnt be too upset if Ruiz were to move on in the summer
Been one of the better players today.
Quote from: The Moose on May 04, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Been one of the better players today.
I was thinking that Ruiz had a shocking first half. Constantly gave the ball away
Is it mathematically possible for Wigan to finish above Fulham?
surprised Jol reacted so early by hauling Karagounis off but glad he has. Now he needs to motivate the players.
We have so much talent in our team but it just seems that Jol can't get the best out of any of the players at his disposal.
slight improvement once the greek went off..now at least we have some pace and movement up top
Quote from: The Moose on May 04, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on May 04, 2013, 03:46:18 PM
wouldnt be too upset if Ruiz were to move on in the summer
Been one of the better players today.
That is irrelevant and has been used as an excuse for far too long.
He can't score.
He can't play number 10.
He can't play on the wings.
He falls over for fun.
He is SO left footed it's unbelievable.
Total waste of money and if we are relying on him to be our play maker then we are in real trouble next season.
I think Fulham will go on to win it 3-1
Never been more calm when 1 nil down
Hey, if I was a supporter of any other club I would have given up ages ago but having supported them for 60 years nothing has really changed save for a very few seasons.
Quote from: Aaron on May 04, 2013, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: The Moose on May 04, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on May 04, 2013, 03:46:18 PM
wouldnt be too upset if Ruiz were to move on in the summer
Been one of the better players today.
That is irrelevant and has been used as an excuse for far too long.
He can't score.
He can't play number 10.
He can't play on the wings.
He falls over for fun.
He is SO left footed it's unbelievable.
Total waste of money and if we are relying on him to be our play maker then we are in real trouble next season.
He can play number 10 and can score. We need to bring in someone like Huddlestone to provide creativity from deep so Ruiz doesn't have to drop so deep.
He doesn't fall over more than any other Fulham player that's rubbish, he's less of a soft touch now.
He's a delightful talent and with the right players around him will flourish.
1st half the main reason I gave up watching and going about 2 months ago. I've house work to do. Think I should crack on with it ..
Quote from: Count Berbatov on May 04, 2013, 03:52:14 PM
I think Fulham will go on to win it 3-1
Never been more calm when 1 nil down
Your optimism may not be popular on this thread, but I like your sentiments! COYWs!
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Huddlestone? You are aving a larf
Riise and Duff are past it.
Ruiz is not a forward
Emanuelson has done nothing.
Theres no pace and we're very easy to defend against
McCarthy made a couple of great saves, but he shouldnt have been given a chance
Quote from: The Moose on May 04, 2013, 03:57:42 PM
Quote from: Aaron on May 04, 2013, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: The Moose on May 04, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on May 04, 2013, 03:46:18 PM
wouldnt be too upset if Ruiz were to move on in the summer
Been one of the better players today.
That is irrelevant and has been used as an excuse for far too long.
He can't score.
He can't play number 10.
He can't play on the wings.
He falls over for fun.
He is SO left footed it's unbelievable.
Total waste of money and if we are relying on him to be our play maker then we are in real trouble next season.
He can play number 10 and can score.
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Maybe we will be playing at Loftus Rd next season. This is dire dirge.Can only hope Jol sticks it so far up 'em at half-time that the team comes out firing.
Kaca for Duff, Richardson for Riise. Both should never have been dropped.
WBA 2-1
Should be 0-2
I cant believe how bad we are. loving dogshit!!!
20% possession this half :s
Richardson on for Riise. Poor old Jol. Trying to do something with this side.
Martin Jols half time teamtalk has done wonders again
we look a shambles at the back today, we just don't look up for it at all.
Has Jol got no idea how to send a team out after half time motivated?
Riise was awful and Richardson will be no better. We really need a left back
With the utter dross we've displayed for the majority of the season, we're very fortunate not be relegated
Wigan now 2-2
Get Kaca on already. I never want to see Duff on the left again. He's been poor every time.
unbelievable
People will no doubt have excuses ready for this.
I agree, Rodders is showing Ruiz up for what he is, a pretty boy who likes to pretend he can go past anyone. Unlike Barbie, he cannot.
Stonewall pen not given & then we give away another one. What the hell is going on.
our defending is total toilet.
Ta-ta.
Martin LOL
I've been a long term of defender of Jol but I'm furious today. He should not have dropped Kaca or Richardson and he should've got the players to come out at half time much much more motivated.
where was Hangeland in the build up to that goal? Was so far out of position then didn't track his runner properly when he finally got back. Shambles at the back.
AND STOP PICKING DUFF!
" What a load of Rubbish " I have not seen such crap of a defense in my life.
If MJ does not believe multiple changes are required, take the captaincy away from that lanky streak for a start, get shot of Ruiz and Sidwell, then MJ should go.
Ruiz is terrible
Quote from: Ordar on May 04, 2013, 04:24:20 PM
Ruiz is terrible
we get it you don't like Ruiz....At least he's trying
rodellegabomb has been alright today....
He has to go
Jol out
I like Ruiz and think he will come good and frankly I'm pleased that most people probably disagree. Next season it will be all the sweeter when I'm proven right.
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OH MY GOD RUIZ SCORED A GOAL
Ruiz scores. would you believe it?
Good man Ruiz, yer still not very good
Keep talking all that Rubish about RUiz pick a better scapegoat sucka
assist for rodellegabomb
I have always said what a great player Ruiz is.
terrible that ruiz fella ;)
Kaca on half an hour too late.
1 back- Ruiz
I take it all back.. He's great now.
Rodellega has played well since coming on. Offers a different dimension to the attack
Norwich drawing with Villa.
Quote from: Aaron on May 04, 2013, 04:28:45 PM
I take it all back.. He's great now.
well, perhaps for 5 minutes then.
Ripped apart...
hmmm well that's not good
that was so easy.
Argh. I've defended Richardson then he goes and plays Le Fondre onside. I'm tearing my hair out.
agree ordar, shame he doesnt have two good games in a row. but i will take a good performance from him today ;)
Well that's how good Richardson is
sigh.
lol! 3-2
Good man Ruiz, yer still not good
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I think today's performance will put to bed the idea of playing 4-4-2 diamond. We've been dominated in midfield.
FULHAMISH.
SO.. Fulhamish.
We're gonna win now.. Ruiz will get another 4.
fair enough ruiz, still easy
Ruiz again
unbelievable 2 for ruiz
Don't forget Ruiz is a good player with little support
neither side can defend, is this really premier league football?
FIFA football
Que 2-4...
Amazing what can happen when you get players in the box and your cross beats the first man
Super Ruiz. On a hat trick. Who would believe that.
Rodders unlucky
so so unlucky Hugo
crossbar!
We can do this COYW
wigan winning
New defenders please
terrible
our back four were garbage today I Have never seem them play so poorly
wow, our defence is in shambles. Rodders was unlucky.. great pass by Berba. Rodders has missed some great chances.
Even Enoh's making mistakes. Ball watching. Unbelievable. I hope Wigan lose.
Awful defending
these are just shocking goals to concede
This is getting really serious 2-4 & wigan are winning 3-2
With Senderos and Richardson playing in the back four what do you expect!
I prefer hitting my head against a brick wall to this crap
I tHink Ruiz is regaining his confidence back, scoring will do that to you
Seriously, that FK by Ruiz. Helga and Senderos make two great gaps in the waal so Ruiz tries to put it OVER the wall and bring it down. Pathetic, absolutely pathetic.
Just need Enoh to get sent off now and then it will round it up to an absolute atrocity to a day
Twice Rodders has hit the woodwork now. And 2 pens to us not given. One shot cleared off the line. Scant consolation though.
Rodders again. unbelievable misses. He could have scored 2 the past 3 mins.
Now villa are winning
West ham better score against Newcastle soon. Dreadful performance today against the weakest team in the division, at home. Villa winning as well.
Good to see that we look better up front with Rodders up front and Ruiz pushing up. Not at all sure why we haven't scored a few more. But our defending is so poor. Still very much relegation threatened.
This day couldn't be going worse. except when Newcastle get a late winner.
I really hoped I could come and say "I told you so" for defending Jol, but this is bad.
We are very much still in a relegation fight, i don't understand why people think we're safe
Atkins first win as Reading manger...FULHAMISH
Quote from: Rambler on May 04, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
We are very much still in a relegation fight, i don't understand why people think we're safe
I *think* with the fixture list we can't go down as teams below us are playing each other etc.
It shows how important that unexpected win at Spurs was.
Quote from: Rambler on May 04, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
We are very much still in a relegation fight, i don't understand why people think we're safe
My thoughts exactly. Don't see us getting another point after that.
I feel for those that had to watch this in person...
And paid money... :58:
sorry, but Hugo Rodallega has missed sooo many chances.
Quote from: Aaron on May 04, 2013, 04:52:41 PM
Quote from: Rambler on May 04, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
We are very much still in a relegation fight, i don't understand why people think we're safe
I *think* with the fixture list we can't go down as teams below us are playing each other etc.
we can, one point for us would make it almost impossible though.
Awful, woeful, shameful. Only Rodallega can hold his head high today, best performance in a Fulham shirt he's had.
Jol has to take plenty of blame. Tactically he got it horribly wrong. Reading are quick on the wings, the right wing especially so dropping our quickest left sided players made no sense whatsoever. They also pack the midfield so play a diamond formation also made no sense. Very very poor from him.
The players were truly woeful though, completely unprofessional. I'm not even going to single out individuals because no one had a good game apart from Rodallega.
the only good thing is we have a better goal difference than most below us.
Norwich could be in trouble
just saw the penalty. That was NOT a PK. The refs again.
Quote from: PokerMatt on May 04, 2013, 04:49:20 PM
This day couldn't be going worse. except when Newcastle get a late winner.
I really hoped I could come and say "I told you so" for defending Jol, but this is bad.
One game doesn't make Jol a bad manager. All in all he's done more good than bad.
Wigan have: Swansea (H), Arsenal (A), Villa (H) Need 6 Points
Sunderland have: Stoke (H), Southamption (H), Spurs (A) Need 4 Points
Newcastle have: QPR (A), Arsenal (H) Need 3 Points
Norwich have: WBA (H), Man City Away Need 3 Points
Villa have: Chelsea (A), Wigan (A) Need 1 Point
We have Liverpool (H) and Swansea away.
It is not totally out the realms of possibility that we'll go down actually....
Quote from: Only Me on May 04, 2013, 04:58:40 PM
the only good thing is we have a better goal difference than most below us.
Norwich could be in trouble
I hope so
Quote from: Aaron on May 04, 2013, 04:52:41 PM
Quote from: Rambler on May 04, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
We are very much still in a relegation fight, i don't understand why people think we're safe
I *think* with the fixture list we can't go down as teams below us are playing each other etc.
I think you are wrong mate. We could go into the last match of the season in 18th place i believe
Quote from: Fulham_Surrey on May 04, 2013, 04:59:37 PM
just saw the penalty. That was NOT a PK. The refs again.
It was I think but Kelly fouled Berba as well. We deserved a point on chances alone.
Wigan have 3 games left. Home to Swansea, away to Arsenal & home to Villa. If they get 6 points they will be on 41 points. We need 1 more point to be absolutely safe.
Quote from: grandad on May 04, 2013, 05:03:30 PM
Wigan have 3 games left. Home to Swansea, away to Arsenal & home to Villa. If they get 6 points they will be on 41 points. We need 1 more point to be absolutely safe.
Can you honestly see that with our fixtures?
Quote from: beijing ben on May 04, 2013, 05:01:22 PM
Quote from: Aaron on May 04, 2013, 04:52:41 PM
Quote from: Rambler on May 04, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
We are very much still in a relegation fight, i don't understand why people think we're safe
I *think* with the fixture list we can't go down as teams below us are playing each other etc.
I think you are wrong mate. We could go into the last match of the season in 18th place i believe
Shows how important this game was, this was our best opportunity to get some points and quash the relegation fears. Now we have some hard work ahead
Personally I think Wigan will go down. They are good going forward but woeful defensively. I like them so it's a shame.
oh dear oh dear. I am so glad I didn't watch a stream (based on comments here). Norwich v Villa was on tv here. If we had to play Villa, they would have scored 6 against Fulham today. pace, pace and more pace. I guessed it might be a better option.
The discussions about Jol will start tonight. I doubted him in the beginning, warmed to him a bit but really doubting due to tactics of last 2 months.
We must play Rodders up front alongside Berbatov as I have wanted for some time. He missed a few was unlucky for a few. But we created more chances with a more attacking formation. Playing that starting line up against Reading is disgraceful. Jol tried to change it but our awful defending let us all down. But PLEASE JOL PLAY TO WIN AND AN ATTACKING FORMATION.
YOU ARE KILLING US.
Quote from: The Moose on May 04, 2013, 05:00:02 PM
Quote from: PokerMatt on May 04, 2013, 04:49:20 PM
This day couldn't be going worse. except when Newcastle get a late winner.
I really hoped I could come and say "I told you so" for defending Jol, but this is bad.
One game doesn't make Jol a bad manager. All in all he's done more good than bad.
One game? How about the last 4?
We are heading for our worst league finish since the great escape...how is that doing more good than bad?!
Quote from: The Moose on May 04, 2013, 05:02:35 PM
Quote from: Fulham_Surrey on May 04, 2013, 04:59:37 PM
just saw the penalty. That was NOT a PK. The refs again.
It was I think but Kelly fouled Berba as well. We deserved a point on chances alone.
going forward I'd say we deserved something but when you defend like we did I struggle to justify complaining about decisions or bad luck.
One point from 18. If that isn't relegation form, what is?
Quote from: Lighthouse on May 04, 2013, 05:06:51 PM
We must play Rodders up front alongside Berbatov as I have wanted for some time. He missed a few was unlucky for a few. But we created more chances with a more attacking formation. Playing that starting line up against Reading is disgraceful. Jol tried to change it but our awful defending let us all down. But PLEASE JOL PLAY TO WIN AND AN ATTACKING FORMATION.
YOU ARE KILLING US.
:plus one:
Quote from: Neil D on May 04, 2013, 05:09:50 PM
One point from 18. If that isn't relegation form, what is?
25 from 105, perhaps
Quote from: Rambler on May 04, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: beijing ben on May 04, 2013, 05:01:22 PM
Quote from: Aaron on May 04, 2013, 04:52:41 PM
Quote from: Rambler on May 04, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
We are very much still in a relegation fight, i don't understand why people think we're safe
I *think* with the fixture list we can't go down as teams below us are playing each other etc.
I think you are wrong mate. We could go into the last match of the season in 18th place i believe
Shows how important this game was, this was our best opportunity to get some points and quash the relegation fears. Now we have some hard work ahead
It would be fulhamish of us to be in 18th for the last game and beating Swansea to stay up...
I honestly think, looking at the other teams fixtures, that if we dont get another point, we could be in serious trouble.
All the teams below us have enough winnable points in their remaining games to overtake us
Before this match, you couldn't get serious odds on Fulham being relegated. Now you can. 33-1 with W Hill, if you're interested...
The first rule of the PL is make yourself hard to beat by defending collectively as a team...... and as a rule we do not.
We are in extreme danger.
Quote from: Neil D on May 04, 2013, 05:14:43 PM
Before this match, you couldn't get serious odds on Fulham being relegated. Now you can. 33-1 with W Hill, if you're interested...
I am, will soften the blow
We are in AWFUL form as well, 4 losses on the bounce, 3 of them at home. The teams below are all now starting to pick points up. Im seriously concerned...
Just got in to read the result. Why am I surprised at the score? This is always on the cards with the teams we should make mincemeat of.
Dreadful, just dreadful.
I fancy Norwich to go down on 39 points with us in 16th on 40 points with Villa in 17th on goal dif. One point more would put us in 13th.
According to the Fulham FC website, today's was an official charity match.
Did we have to take it so literally ?
I would live to hear what jol has to say after this awful game
Quote from: Danitar on May 04, 2013, 05:49:20 PM
I would live to hear what jol has to say after this awful game
"we were unlucky...we tried to play our football..."
Quote from: alexbishop on May 04, 2013, 05:50:27 PM
Quote from: Danitar on May 04, 2013, 05:49:20 PM
I would live to hear what jol has to say after this awful game
"we were unlucky...we tried to play our football..."
That seems to be jol's favourite line at the moment. Why can't MAF come out and say what the clubs plans are because this is beginning to be a joke now.
We did play our football, disorganized shambles is the new up and coming style. We have shown over the last dozen games his effective it can be.
Quote from: MJG on May 04, 2013, 05:58:44 PM
We did play our football, disorganized shambles is the new up and coming style. We have shown over the last dozen games how effective it can be.
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I will not try to improve on this eloquence!!!
How long has it been since this squad has remotely played football!!!
What the hell is going on at this club!!!