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who's nervous about this game?
Newcastle have had a poor start, ours hasn't been brilliant, have we change our poor away form, we've won more away than at home for the last few games!
im not very optimistic with a lone striker however we tore swansea apart , hopefully we start berbs AND bent , then ill be confident
First time post and starting with a positive prediction...
Why should Fulham be going to places like SJP with the idea that a draw is a good result? There is no need to fear Newcastle; any trip to a club outside the top four should be viewed as an opportunity for three points.
This is a game that we should aim to dominate from the off, play to our strengths, stick the ball in the box with confidence, have a shot from time to time. The home fans will soon get anxious...
2-0 Fulham
Quote from: Alternative Right Back on August 31, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
First time post and starting with a positive prediction...
Why should Fulham being going to places like SJP with the idea that a draw is a good result? There is no need to fear Newcastle; any trip to club outside the top four should be viewed as an opportunity for three points.
This is a game that we should aim to dominate from the off, play to our strengths, stick the ball in the box with confidence, have a shot from time to time. The home fans will soon get anxious...
2-0 Fulham
I now feel safe if riether gets crook. Welcome to the board pal!
We're wearing our lucky red away shirt so the 100% success rate should continue.
Come on you reds.
Firstly welcome to the board.... your optimism is refreshing to see
I think we will struggle but maybe our away form is no fluke, and we will pick up a point or three.... It all depends on our lineup imo... I think newcastle will nick it 2-1
Hoping to find the game on nbc, not had any luck so far but will go through all channels. Else GJ or follow this thread.
Bent to start
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on August 31, 2013, 02:00:46 PM
Firstly welcome to the board.... your optimism is refreshing to see
I think we will struggle but maybe our away form is no fluke, and we will pick up a point or three.... It all depends on our lineup imo... I think newcastle will nick it 2-1
Get to half-time with a cleansheet and anything is possible.
We looked so much brighter against Arsenal with Bent and Kaka running into the final third (granted, Arsenal had the game wrapped up and their foot off the pedal), so let's hope that they are both fit enough to start.
I feel that this game will give a real indication of how the season will pan out... time to deliver on all the promise we show in fits and starts...
Jol continuing to confuse me...
- Taarabt dropped to bench (presuming he isn't fit to start...if he is fit then why drop the brightest player so far?)
- Kasami dropped completely - that will do his confidence a world of good
- Sidwell continues to be favoured over Boateng who I think is a better destroyer
- Ruiz to play where? Midfield or on right?
Fulham XI v Newcastle: Stockdale; Riether, Hangeland, Hughes, Riise; Kacaniklic, Sidwell, Parker, Ruiz; Berbatov, Bent.
Fulham bench: Etheridge, Karagounis, Duff, Briggs, Taarabt, Rodallega and Boateng.
Line-up:
Stockdale - Riether, Hughes, Hangeland, Riise - Ruiz, Sidwell, Parker, Kacaniklic - Berbatov - Bent
Bench:
Etheridge, Briggs, Boateng, Karagounis, Duff, Taarabt, Rodallega
It's a very positive starting 11 at least. Dropping Taarabt seems odd. Ruiz has to put in a performance today
Sidwell over Boateng all day long at the moment... boateng should be a destroyer but lacks strength, I would have kara over boateng as well
Seriously what does Jol see in Riise, barring him im happy with the line up
I think the team looks good.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on August 31, 2013, 02:15:20 PM
Sidwell over Boateng all day long at the moment... boateng should be a destroyer but lacks strength, I would have kara over boateng as well
Lacks strength?? His strength is one of his greatest assets. he was my fav player Pre season brushing opponents aside in midfield.
where the hell is dejagah
Quote from: alexbishop on August 31, 2013, 02:12:27 PM
Jol continuing to confuse me...
- Taarabt dropped to bench (presuming he isn't fit to start...if he is fit then why drop the brightest player so far?)
- Kasami dropped completely - that will do his confidence a world of good
- Sidwell continues to be favoured over Boateng who I think is a better destroyer
- Ruiz to play where? Midfield or on right?
-Taarabt took a knock midweek, so likely not fully fit.
-Who would you replace Kasami with on the bench? He's untried in the middle, so Karagounis and Boateng over him, Taarabt is a better player, Rodallega is the only striker, Briggs the only defender and that leaves Duff. I'd personally prefer him over Duff, but can see why Jol hasn't.
-Agree entirely.
I'd imagine "wide" right, cutting inside. With hopefully Kaca staying wide left for as much as he can. Berba often floats to the right anyway, so maybe him and Ruiz are fairly interchangeable behind Bent?
A little worried about dejagah! What's the deal? Is he going?
My biggest concern is Riise being targetted with pace... obviously I approve of Kaka playing on the left, but we are vulnerable on that side when not is possession... fingers cross on that one.
Time for Ruiz to stake his claim and prove a few people wrong... but on the right... it's well documented that that is just not the solution...
No excuses for Berba not putting in a shift today...
Quote from: Zu-Meister on August 31, 2013, 02:18:12 PM
where the hell is dejagah
Everyone was talking Dejagah up so much preseason. It was like he was going to be the first one picked every week. I dont get it.
I think we could afford to drop one of Kara or Boateng from the bench for Kasami. Chances are we will be looking to make attacking substitutions rather than defensive ones (I suspect we might be chasing the game later on rather than defending a lead personally)
I haven't seen Ruiz play well on th right since he's been at the club so strange one for me, but guess he has to go somewhere.
I like Ruiz, but he is comfortably at his worst when playing wide right.
I just don't understand what is going on with Sidwell. He's terrible.
Taarabt took a knock so its normal to not start. we sure we will see the trio Boateng, Taarabt, Rodallega
in 2nd half!!! for more pace
Quote from: itombomb on August 31, 2013, 02:23:46 PM
I like Ruiz, but he is comfortably at his worst when playing wide right.
I just don't understand what is going on with Sidwell. He's terrible.
Sidwell to score, then !
I think it will be a cagey and dull game. Hopefully we can nick it somehow!
Im sorry but Boateng was getting pushed off the ball.... he needs to get down the gym. As an enforcer he is laughable. Did you watch the parma and sunderland games?
Im worried about dejagah getting sold
Sidwells playing weve lost.
We are mad if we sell Dejagah. We have no pace on the right at all without him.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on August 31, 2013, 02:28:58 PM
Im sorry but Boateng was getting pushed off the ball.... he needs to get down the gym. As an enforcer he is laughable. Did you watch the parma and sunderland games?
Im worried about dejagah getting sold
I was at the Parma game! Best player on the pitch against Betis, Parma he was ok, but not as good. Sunderland he actually played a better role than people were giving him credit for. It wasn't pretty but he broke down a lot of Sunderland attacks.
Is Ruiz on the wing? Or is it a 4-3-3?
Quote from: JoeyFFC on August 31, 2013, 02:34:49 PM
Sidwells playing weve lost.
When he didn't play last year we never won. Get your facts right.
Why the fu#k is Riise playing. Biggest pile to sh!t we've had at left back. Why Ruiz out wide? Dejagah has been rubbish this preseason/season, so I understand him being dropped. I feel he may be sold. Sidwell on top of Boateng any day. Kasami injured, a shame. Taarabt being rested I presume, expect to see him in the second half.
Got a good feeling about this one. I'll call it 3-1 to us.
COYW!!!
We see a different player Alex.... Will keep an eye on him next time he plays, but I think at the moment he is rightly on the bench
Negative line up. Boring match as usual. Bent and Berba must take their chances.
Quote from: Brown@FFC on August 31, 2013, 02:45:59 PM
Negative line up. Boring match as usual. Bent and Berba must take their chances.
How on earth is that a negative lineup????
Quote from: Whitewash on August 31, 2013, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: Brown@FFC on August 31, 2013, 02:45:59 PM
Negative line up. Boring match as usual. Bent and Berba must take their chances.
How on earth is that a negative lineup????
+1
All you Sidwell bashers, please zip it. I did say please. You are getting very boring and the team needs him. He has his limitations but fights for the ball and the team.
I will probably need to use this thread to follow the match as I cannot get the game on tv here on NBC. Still can't figure out cable carrier, comcast. I hope I don't read comments about every mistake he makes.
That is not negative in the slightest.... We have four players not known for their defending?
Interesting to see how Berba and Bent play together. Question mark over Ruiz but plenty of alternatives on the bench. Kasami picked up an injury at Burton so not there.
Oh and interesting name not in the Saints squad. A certain Mr Cork. We will see.
Is Ruiz being included in case of penalties
We have literally taken no fans haha! Looks like 100 maximum.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on August 31, 2013, 02:16:59 PM
Seriously what does Jol see in Riise, barring him im happy with the line up
What choice does he have?
Can anyone tell me exactly where Dejagah is?
Quote from: Yamus on August 31, 2013, 02:53:18 PM
Is Ruiz being included in case of penalties
A post cheek comment.
See what I did there?
Quote from: Fulham1959 on August 31, 2013, 02:27:07 PM
Quote from: itombomb on August 31, 2013, 02:23:46 PM
I like Ruiz, but he is comfortably at his worst when playing wide right.
I just don't understand what is going on with Sidwell. He's terrible.
Sidwell to score, then !
He is the weakest link so you are probably right
COYW
hilarious, Cisse stopped the ball from getting into our net, after Collocini header.
St eve we have briggs. Much better option, as for sidwell being our weakest link, thats laughable
Berbatov not playing very well so far...
Not a great start from us. Cant keep the ball
Crisp we are not
Berba misplaced couple of easy passes. Terrible cross from Riise. Kaca looking good tho
anyone else think that berba looks really out of shape, attitude is awful aswell
wheres tarabbt?
Ruiz is doing his thing happy to have him back
&%%#, NBC Livestream keeps going to the Everton match...
Fulham won't load... :dft007:
Quote from: cottager123 on August 31, 2013, 03:09:19 PM
anyone else think that berba looks really out of shape, attitude is awful aswell
Quote from NBC commentator after Berbatov mis-touched the ball losing it out of bounds.
"I'm quite suprised he didn't blame someone else for that mis-touch."
See when Berba is bothered, he can play well. Great pass 50 yards to Rither. Bent just got nudged to Collocini. Berba is playing centre midfield?
can someone please tell me what formation we are playing and who is playing where? because i cant tell what we are doing watching this..
All that French & Geordie speak must sound like a lunatic asylum up there.
Quite happy so far. Definitely the better team. COYW.
Berba is playing centre midfield with Parker. Hilarious. Not smart Jol.
Agree with the comment about Berbatov looking unfit.
I see Berba, Kaca, Ruiz given freedom all over the pitch. This will be interesting
Quote from: Fulham_Surrey on August 31, 2013, 03:17:10 PM
Berba is playing centre midfield with Parker. Hilarious. Not smart Jol.
I'm sure Jol has given Berbatov quite a bit of freedom to roam
http://nutjob.eu/njtvx6.html (http://nutjob.eu/njtvx6.html)
How many times can Bent get caught offside. 3rd time and it is 18th minute. just wasted a perfect attack.
I like this Ruiz so far.
They play too close to the penalty box. Need to push them up
bent is more of a super sub than a starter
hes good to bring on around the 60th min when everyone is a little tired, his energy would be great then
I agree with berbatov having the free roll, worst player after 20 mins Ruiz / bent....best player reither
take Berba out, put Taarabt, and then fine. If Berba plays midfield, Jol better tell him not to walk , but run. Parker is playing very well again. so is Ruiz.
Quote from: Roberty on August 31, 2013, 03:19:12 PM
http://nutjob.eu/njtvx6.html (http://nutjob.eu/njtvx6.html)
none of the streams are particularly good.
what was the point of buying boatang if were just going to play crappy sidwell all the time and sub on karagounis
Quote from: MisfitKid on August 31, 2013, 03:10:24 PM
&%%#, NBC Livestream keeps going to the Everton match...
Fulham won't load... :dft007:
Click on the everton link .....that's how I found it
No real chance created yet again
Berbatov isn't playing well. Not focused at all. Jol needs to shake him up half time. Or sub him
Ruiz was by himself in edge of area and Berba refused to pass to him
Berbatov needs a thrashing--wake up damn you
Berbatov is having a nightmare
see that is why Kaca should not play as striker. That was goal, had he been able to control.
Ruiz just missed Berbas run..this is so frustrating
This is like park football. The standard of passing is incredibly bad. Berba doesn't look interested today. Newcastle are a mess and the crowd are on the brink of turning against them. If we can get our act together, we can take all three points.
A better team would be murdering Newcastle. Both teams really poor.
not liking ruiz on the wing this match, we need dejagah
also bent and berba are never on the same wavelength
30 minute update no improvement from Ruiz / bent..... but Berba is having one of them days.... Scotty parker is a fantastic signing
kaca too lightweight with bad controls and ruiz needs to work on his right leg. berba slows the play.. should be put near bent.
even bent seems unfit
This Jekyll & Hyde
I really like the work rate of Parker. We need more of him.
Sidwell literally only knows how to pass backwards
We should win this I we start playing some positive football
We are just so slow when we have the ball. Has to be something we train for as we are so good at doing sod all with the ball when we have it.
Both teams are equally unfit or plain weak
just take berba off please
Berbatov is slowing down the game. He always pauses, even in counter attack. We need Taarabt.
Newcastle are incredibly poor. If we keep playing like this we'll lose. 40 mins in. No shot on target
rod and taarabt are a necessity in 2nd half.
another useless pass
Please take Berbatov off. Car wreck performance
Time for Jol to either sub him or give him the biggest bollocking of his life.
with all my respect to Berba, I find it unexcusable not to show effort and hassle.
parker has been amazing
so glad we bought him now
just still confused why sidwell is playing and not boatang
Parker has been our standout player. Berbatov has been woeful.
That's not a yellow **** ****
I think this is an nbc stream, but the summariser is properly getting on my nerves. Blatant Newcastle fan and doesn't really know what he's talking about.
Taarabt on for Berba, Kara on for Sidwell
This is why bigger teams weren't after Berbatov. Pundits obviously just blank performances like this, of which there are probably more than of as his good ones, and his attitude is utterly toxic.
Another dismal half of "football"
Half time, and although it's not pretty, the main objective is met - cleansheet. The longer it goes on, the better, the Newcastle fans will get frustrated and we are always more creative in the second 45...
Berba will come good, winner from Bent...
Stay positive guys 049:gif
well this is thrilling
Currently watching the everton game too and just wondering why we cant play like they do away? Sure they are a better team than we are, but they are also playing a seemingly better opposition. The difference is that they attack with pace, something we cannot seem to grasp the concept of.
The amount of times players don't play the easy ball to keep things moving. Everything is so slow, and Berba being so deep doesn't help.
Kaca has been really poor and Ruiz has to show a lot more urgency.
So slowwwwwww.. If we play POSITIVE we should score 2 goals.
Got in late... I guess it's been a bad start from Berbatov aha.
Fellas, this is the most ridiculous game of football I've witnessed for some time. These players get paid to run for recreation.
It's a waste of my time. Hope something changes at half time
45 Minutes and not a shot on target a against a poor team. It's embarrassing.
Newcastle are there for the taking, keep it goalless going past the hour then the right subs could swing this in our favour. Berbatov has been poor and seems to be playing 2 seconds behind the rest of our side.
2 french warming remy and gour they r dangerous
PICK UP THE BLOODY PACE 092.gif
& where is our Iranian???
taarabt on for bent. berba up front with taarabt behind. win garanteed
Quote from: alexbishop on August 31, 2013, 03:36:37 PM
Sidwell literally only knows how to pass backwards
And it takes him forever to do it, so the people he passes to, have men on them.
First on Match Of The Day boys and girls! Woooo!
We had one goal attempt in the first half. Weak as piss. Could someone tell that fat bastard Berba to run every now and then? He looks like a 40something boxer having his 120th fight. Just sub him if he cant be assed and put Tarrabt on.
Quote from: Walsh on August 31, 2013, 03:50:09 PM
Got in late... I guess it's been a bad start from Berbatov aha.
Lucky sod. I honestly can't remember the last time I walked such a poor half of football. Awful stuff.
This is possibly the worst game of football I've ever seen.
The first half is a perfect reason why few fans want to travel to watch the club. Not awful but just slow and yawn making. Exciting players are asked to defend. No quick breaks. But there is hope that Berbatov picks a place to play and actually controls the ball and Bent can see more of the ball.
I would love us to go for this. But I just can't see us even trying until we are a goal down.
Quote from: Wingnut on August 31, 2013, 03:53:43 PM
Quote from: Walsh on August 31, 2013, 03:50:09 PM
Got in late... I guess it's been a bad start from Berbatov aha.
Lucky sod. I honestly can't remember the last time I walked such a poor half of football. Awful stuff.
I thought Sunderland was bad. Didnt think it could get worse.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz best league in the world ya right. Christ if we only looked like we were bothered, any then some ask why we have "poor" following! Do me a favour. :dft007:
its not just our game, all of the other half-times are 0-0
...is it just blind faith to believe that the lack of pace in the first half is simply a cunning plan to conserve energy and come out all guns blazing after the hour mark?
in all honesty im quite enjoying it , its interesting to see us pass the half way line running with the ball. a rare sight
I really don't think it's as bad as any of you are making out. Berbatov has been poor, I grant you, but other than that we've kept the ball nicely, had them under pressure for a 10 minute spell and have just lacked a bit of urgency. The introduction of someone like Taarabt could easily give us the cutting edge we need and turn the game around for us. Keep your hair on
Quote from: Alternative Right Back on August 31, 2013, 03:55:28 PM
...is it just blind faith to believe that the lack of pace in the first half is simply a cunning plan to conserve energy and come out all guns blazing after the hour mark?
:plus one: 064.gif
Parker starting to prove my small doubt wrong, really happy with that. Really enjoying him.
Berba omg... Tbh. his attitude makes me sick - he can be brilliant and awesome watching but he can also just kill us. Taarabt on for Berba.
Missing Kasami's interceptions, heart, work rate and runs to the box.
Stockdale looking good.
Bent is at least in and around the box, one of our biggest problems last season. Berba way to deep once again, stay between our cm and Bent, we do not need you to create every play, just to be a perfect threat to free up Bent and be dangerously.
COYW!!! Get us another 3 pts..!
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
This is possibly the worst game of football I've ever seen.
Not been a Fulham fan for very long then.
sidwell looks lost
fulhamking, i agree.
It´s useless having Bent isolated up front on his own. He is not a hold up player.Berba or Ruiz have to be in the area WITH him.
Sidwell and Ruiz had some pretty inaccurate passes in the first half (and surprisingly Berba as well); remove them. Get Taarabt in!
First half analysis.... Both teams are AWFUL
Berba is awful, bent is awful.... Ruiz and kaca are the next worst
Parker, reither and I hate saying this but Riise had good first halfs
Tarrabt will change the game
Quote from: Whitewash on August 31, 2013, 03:57:34 PM
I really don't think it's as bad as any of you are making out. Berbatov has been poor, I grant you, but other than that we've kept the ball nicely, had them under pressure for a 10 minute spell and have just lacked a bit of urgency. The introduction of someone like Taarabt could easily give us the cutting edge we need and turn the game around for us. Keep your hair on
Agree completely
There seems to be no plan at all when we go forward.
what was Ruiz doing?
ruiz is killing me
That was classic Ruiz....
Berbatov really needs to go off, he is just walking around the pitch.
Sidwell offers absolutely nothing.
Kaca awful again.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 31, 2013, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2013, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
This is possibly the worst game of football I've ever seen.
Not been a Fulham fan for very long then.
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First game in 99 so have only really caught the upward curve.
It's not just the lack of quality it's the... Ugh. Just spineless.
We are a team bereft of pace. Where are our u18 champions? Take a punt with them ffs it's been a diabolical game.
How Parker is managing to be a defensive MF & our only creative MF is a wonder. He´s got no support at all. Taarabt has to come on.
Oh no GJ has just said Duff is warming up. Nooooooo.
Funny I think Sidwell does great work breaking up their attacks
70% of the team should be off , pathetic players
I've never seen Berbatov play so badly...
Kaca got manhandled
Berbatov having a lie down in the midfield. Parker working his arse off.
Surely Taarabt has to come on for Berbatov, and soon
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2013, 04:15:45 PM
Funny I think Sidwell does great work breaking up their attacks
What? They've bypassed our mdifield at will, just have been terrible at capitalising subsequent to that.
Never liked Berbatov. And the way the club put his signing as the fifth greatest moment of our history sickens me. Horrible attitude, he needs to get off his high horse.
ruiz is killing me
Hangeland earning his wages today battling with Ameobi
Under pressure here now. Need to get through this.
make fking change
deckchair for Berbatov !!!
we are playing with 10 men
Come on Jol show your the manager and sub Berba. It's so clear it is hurting.
taarabt please
Sidwell is not having a bad game.... all those that say he is I would love to see what u say about our attacking players?
We are an awful awful side to watch.... Berba, ruiz and bent off asap
Earn your loving pay check Jol and make some tactical adjustments. We can win this.
A SHOT ON TARGET!!1!!
still bad free kick in my view. Krul made it more difficult than it was.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on August 31, 2013, 04:24:42 PM
We are an awful awful side to watch.... Berba, ruiz and bent off asap
Bent is up front on his own to be fair. He isn't get any sort of decent ball up there. I would sub the other two.
GET TAARABT ON NOW for Kaca. We need fresh legs.
No Reither Plz
love, Riether..
Riether down. Call Manolev to take a taxi. Oh....wait
Too bad Kasami is not on the bench, he could be good for us now as a double with Taarabt.
Please say Reither is alright...
I'm beginning to hope we lose this so that we don't have to read a load of Jollocks about it being a good away point.
They are fouling Kaka alot ...................... a good sign, the players must think he is good
Briggs on wooooooooooooooooh !!
No shirt sponsor on Briggs lol
Riether injured. Briggs RB!!!
Briggs ripped his shirt sponsor off, is that allowed? :P
Inverted full back!
Now *need* two new fullbacks and a cm.
Better not be serious with Reither. That would hurt us ALOT.
What u know, Berba started running in the 72min. Wow. Better late than ever.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on August 31, 2013, 04:24:42 PM
Sidwell is not having a bad game.... all those that say he is I would love to see what u say about our attacking players?
We are an awful awful side to watch.... Berba, ruiz and bent off asap
They've all been useless too (you forgot Kaca), the difference is they all have talent.
taarabt please
when we lose the ball near Berba he NEEDS to respond.....
Quote from: Jimpav on August 31, 2013, 04:28:45 PM
I'm beginning to hope we lose this so that we don't have to read a load of Jollocks about it being a good away point.
How dare you want us to lose. Are you mental?
We better make some changes or we are toast. We can't just absorb this for 15 minutes.
taarabt please
Subs now
15 shots to our 2. Sechxy football Maarten, sexchy.
13 mins yet and no sub..... really?
jol confuses me so much
This has to change. We can't survive this for the rest of the game.
We got Lucky there... Make some changes Jol.
Weird how the game now needs us to have pace up front for the few breaks. So Rodders or Tarrabt. But no backs to the wall Fulham and hope.
we're getting battered
Apparently, "Jol" is dutch for tree sloth
Come on Taarabt , get him on & we can win & go up to 5th.
Are we the most negative team in the Premier League? I reckon so. I really feel sorry for Bent and Parker being brought into this
Really positive. loving morons.
What a miss, thankfully.
taarabt now please
not another season of refusing to sub Berba and Ruiz FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
finally
Really? Take Bent off? So now no forwards. I despair.
should have been Ruiz or Berba for Taarabt but shock horror he doesn't take either of them off.....
We are soooooo poor. This is ridiculous.
I cant see anything other than a relegation battle this season. We've been totally outplayed in all 3 premier league games this season. I reckon we've had 3 maybe 4 shots in total this season
Ohhhhhh!!!!
knew it
4 minutes to go .... bollox
Totally deserved
No less than we deserve.
That was coming.
This was obviously going to happen, and it was always going to be because Riise doesn't close anyone down.
plays the right side we can be top 10... continue to do what he does, were struggling.....
im not even a Jol hater, im a fan of his - just stating facts.
A blind man could have seen that coming. Thanks Jol you f-in dumb ass
Taarabt misses a sitter and the next attack, Newcastle scores.
How vital will that Sunderland prove come the end of the season?
He deserved that goal. Good old negative Fulham! :dead horse:
this team is terrible
we deserve to lose about 4-0
Berbatov has been an absolute disgrace this afternoon, and the fact Jol refuses to take him off is equally pathetic.
We have got exactly what we deserved sweet fa
Sidwell off. 87 mins too late.
A day late and a dollar short from the sloth
Useless, absolutely useless. Possibly no Riether. Berbatov and Jol, get rid of both of them. Doing nothing to help the team.
fking jol went for a draw , should have made changes in the begining of 2nd half .. idiot
plays the right side we can be top 10... continue to do what he does, were struggling.....
im not even a Jol hater, im a fan of his - just stating facts.
Now we start attacking. I just don't get it! Jol = Stupid
Got what they deserved NOTHING. Again, this is that dutch idiots fault, CLUELESS. eeven the commentator said, Fulham have offered absolutely nothing to this game.
A **** Newcastle side, and we show absolutely no desire to go for the win. We, and more specifically Jol, deserve to lose this match.
You can only score against Fulham, score against Fulham you can only score against Fulham !!
The last time they scored ????? yes, Fulham
well deserved I feel.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2013, 04:40:24 PM
Really? Take Bent off? So now no forwards. I despair.
F.. .... sake.............. Sell Berba, Ruiz and buy someone that we really need - may be drunk, but wrong player, and wrong manager only = relegation battle. Admin was right last season: "The Dutch idiot will take us down"...
This isn't just Berbatov's worst game in a Fulham shirt, but he looks like he wants it to be his worst game in a Fulham shirt...
Jol has to go. I've had enough. Theres been no improvement in the way we play. There are no tactics and we are so negative in every game. Even against Burton. And he can take Berbatov with him.
We've been slaughtered in all 3 games.
Riise sucks...beaten by ben arfa every time and still doesnt learn to go tighter and not let him cut in. Just another away game I guess.
I'm officially "Jol out". Don't have the eloquence to describe how pissed off I am right now.
JOL OUT
is riise that bad now we cant give him away Briggs must wonder what he has to do to get a game. didnt even play him at burton
Why even go up and play??????? Jol will say we were unlucky ...... What a idiot!
We are so poor it hurts. Negative football and a philosophy to suck up pressure for 90 mins and some occasional breaking, obviously at no pace.
Jol out
Yep I'm now in Jol OUT! Jol OuT
Anyone want to defend Jol?
We have a good side now. Really we do. But we can't afford to have such a negative manager.
I'd dreading Chelsea away after this performance. If we play like that, it will be hell.
That was an absolute f'ing Disgrace. More so because we could have gotten all 3 today. g*d dammit I'm angry.
Another game without a clear-cut chance...
Sick of it. It can't keep going like this. Jol's best trait is his transfer dealing, but he's useless as a manager. I've always been in the camp of "he just needs time", "the team needs restructuring", "they'll learn to play together soon", but enough is enough. It's not the results I really care about tbh, it's the play. We've looked hopeless for so long, not just the past 3 games.
Khan, either get rid of Jol or give him some money. It can't go on like this..
Time to get rid.. I haven't been this bored of our football since Lawrie sanchez. C'mon Khan.. be ruthless.
tried to be positive, but only kidding myself... 2 busy days in the window needed - put your hand in your pocket Mr Khan...
this is one of the worst performances I have ever seen by any team for that matter... what do these guys think before going to a game?
I will defend Jol. I feel none of the attacking players show any interesat in attacking, or playing.
i will truthfully say we are now relegation candidates
especially if riether is injuered as we all know jol wont buy a replacement
takes me 2 hours to come to every home game....
if he continues to play Ruiz and Berba and sub the likes of Bent (our only penetrative player) I wont waste my time travelling F it...
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2013, 04:51:54 PM
We have a good side now. Really we do. But we can't afford to have such a negative manager.
Completely agree. I don't think this side is bad.. it the man that manages them that is.
Parker the shining light from today.
In all honesty, any piece of transfer business isn't going to help the situation whilst Jol is in charge. Heck, he could have a team of Barcelona players and still manage to lose this game, absolute useless manager...
Quote from: Fulham_Surrey on August 31, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
I will defend Jol. I feel none of the attacking players show any interesat in attacking, or playing.
he has the option to drop/sub Berba and Ruiz yet doesn't!!!!!
Mirror image of last season I'm afraid. Jol will never learn or he is so fu........ arrogant to think he doesn't have to change the way we set up. Have had enough, so I too am JOL OUT 096.gig 096.gig 096.gig :dft007: :dft007: :dft007:
Jol is the only person to blame, those blaming sidwell should be ashamed .... Berbatov needs all the stick. Bent, Ruiz and Kaca were beyond a joke. Martin Jol is clueless and has to go
as I keep saying - if he plays the right side we can be top 10... continue to do what he does, were struggling.....
im not even a Jol hater, im a(was) fan of his - just stating facts.
Humbled, i fully agree. I think he should start with Berba. I feel that Berba is sabotaging him for not playing him in attack.
3 shots. 2 on target. Total football. Jol can clean out his office and take that statue Berbatov with him.
The hardest opening 3 matches we have had for years & already some want a new manager. The blame is entirely our penny pinching owners, both MAF & Khan.
It´s too late now to do much about it so we will now have a real struggle.
We have no defensive cover for both full backs. We have no creativity & both Berba & Ruiz are a luxury we cant afford.
This team is so wrong. Time to ditch Jol, Berbatov, Ruiz and anyone else who can't be bothered. I am happy enough to watch us play outside the Premier League, I have done for 30 of my years, but this team is clueless under this pathetic manager and a club that hasn't seen this in the last 2 years is a club in disarray, with no strong leadership.
Quote from: Fulham_Surrey on August 31, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
I will defend Jol. I feel none of the attacking players show any interesat in attacking, or playing.
He was the one who selected Ruiz in a position where he is consistently poor. He is the one who selected Berbatov in a position where he has never played well for us. He is the one who started Sidwell.
The players were undoubtedly poor, he did a hell of a lot to facilitate that.
Really, really, really bad today. Both teams were bad but especially us. The only plus side could be that they will now realise that we have to buy at least one quality player before the window shuts or we will go down
how can people still defend Jol when the only clear chance we had in the whole 90 minutes was as a result of Coloccini slipping? I'm sure the players have the ability to play well if they are under the guidance of a manager who knows what he is doing and knows how to get the best out of each and every player at the club.
I think it's important that we not overreact to a tough away game this early in the season but that was mighty frustrating. I don't like to criticise our players but Riise is finished as a Premiership player, too slow, too many poor touches and passes, lack of movement and most critically he never wants to take responsibility. So often he backs off and lets a player run at him or tries to make Brede or the midfielders defend for him. The rest of the back four were fine today, although defending corners didn't seem to be organised particularly well. Briggs needs to play if Richardson is out, either he's the future at left back or we need to know he isn't. Sidwell and Parker did fine, especially Parker who could be signing of the season, Sidwell isn't Zidane to state the obvious but over the course of 90 minutes and with flair players out wide he does a really solid job. As for the flair players... when it works we can look fantastic, some games last year Ruiz and Berbatov were terrific. But when it doesn't, we can be pretty atrocious. That is the risk we may have to take in trying to play good football and not being just another Stoke, West Ham type side, however when it isn't working we have the bench to change things and how Jol didn't use Taarabt or Duff is beyond me. Bent needs more game time if he's going to play well, but Berbatov just isn't a threat playing so deep. Jol needs to take control of games like this and at least try to change the pattern of us doing ok and then having a poor 15 minutes and losing.
Early season positivity to end, if Taarabt had scored we could have been in the top 5...
ffs berbatov... I'm sure you can sulk your way round a champs league team front line, think he forgets that we are Fulham and we don't have the likes of Ronald, scholes, giggs etc playing balls to him, he will actually have to look for the ball the lazy cock
I've stuck with Jol through thick and thin so far but this is an effing joke! Berbatov doesn't deserve to wear the white shirt, imagine a player being as lazy as him in Roys team, he wouldn't last 5 minutes! But Jol gives him 90 minutes every bloody week regardless of how useless and pathetic he is. Our midfield and defence are still bloody ancient despite Jol banging on about lowering the average age of the squad. Had enough. Jol out.
Our defence were brilliant today. It was our attack
Once again sitting too deep ruins our plans. It worked for quite a while to nullify Newcastle Utd but we got found out in the end, and it nullified all our attacks as the players had to travel further up the pitch. Really really REALLY poor performance against an average team. Berba was woeful and should've been subbed off for Taarabt, Rodallega should've come on earlier, I'd have liked to see Rodallega alongside Bent at some point.
Jol's negativity is passing through to the players, what is the point in signing so much attacking talent if you're going to be so negative?
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2013, 05:00:51 PM
The hardest opening 3 matches we have had for years & already some want a new manager. The blame is entirely our penny pinching owners, both MAF & Khan.
Are you serious? Hard opening matches. Arsenal maybe, but the other two are useless
It´s too late now to do much about it so we will now have a real struggle.
We have no defensive cover for both full backs. We have no creativity & both Berba & Ruiz are a luxury we cant afford.
Jols past it. The team plays flat and lazy. Khan dont take to long to do what needs to be done.
Great performance by Stockers though, definite MOM for us.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on August 31, 2013, 05:10:18 PM
Our defence were brilliant today. It was our attack
Agree in terms of Stockers, Reither, Hughes, Hangeland and even Briggsy, but Riise cost us a point today, utterly useless.
yep. they weren't very good but we were far worse. 3 shots to 26. Still, taraabt could've stolen it at the end if he hadn't flubbed a sitter. we deserved nothing from that game but nearly got a point anyway... not quite disgraceful but pretty darn close. the riether injury is the icing on the cake.
Bringing in ZERO backup right backs and playing briggs of all people out of position... i don't know, very irresponsible. jol had no options. we don't have the players. no investment. nothing to work with. we should be thankful that it was only 1-0. lucky they can't finish.
but did you see darren bent stretch the field? haha... uh, how many hours left in this window? can i at least say at the end of a long post no one will read that english pet names kind of disgust me? rodders... stockers... please, stoppers, please. 090.gif
I cant wait for the post match interview. How we miss Dembele and Dempsey, and how we were "unlucky"...
Quote from: Ordar on August 31, 2013, 05:25:39 PM
I cant wait for the post match interview. How we miss Dembele and Dempsey, and how we were "unlucky"...
Or, one of his favourites, " . . . that's not what we want".
If Jol doesn´t get substantial funds in January I think he will resign in disgust. I would not blame him. A new decent manager won´t come to us as the same will happen to them. No, we will be begging for some Championship no hoper to manage us on a shoestring. Mackintosh will be rubbing his hands at next years balance sheet. There you go Mr Khan , a nice profit for you in your 1st year. Look at all the money we will get from the sale of Stockdale, Hangeland, Reither, Kaca, Dejadah, Frei, Kasami, Ruiz, Berbatov, . Don´t worry as the League have given us all parachutes so you won´t have to pay our Academy players much as they are so young & that is all the players we have left.
Sorry to be cynical.
Im sorry I hate Riise but he canot be blamed for today.
Parker was our motm by a country mile
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on August 31, 2013, 05:56:36 PM
Im sorry I hate Riise but he canot be blamed for today.
Parker was our motm by a country mile
Stockdale was brilliant too tbf.
yeah I agree he had a very decent game.... So solid in goal
