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Title: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: RidgeRider on January 30, 2010, 11:29:11 PM
Does anyone know what the appeal is of this game? I feel a bit like TJL when he was going on about baseball back a bit ago.

I have to tell you, having a game last more than 4 hours doesn't make much sense to me.

I suppose if there was a lot of alcohol involved it might be a nice day outdoors, sort of like a double header but truthfully, every doubleheader I have saw, by the 3rd inning of the second game I was so inebriated I could barely see straight.

Can anyone wax poetic on this curious of all games?
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: YankeeJim on January 30, 2010, 11:36:57 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I drive by people sweating on their bikes, wearing those loady leotards & those avant garde, inverted fruit bowl helmets and think, if this is happy & healthy, I'll stay fat.
BTW, why does there seem to be more riders on week days than week ends? Don't they have jobs?  ;D
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: Steve_orino on January 30, 2010, 11:38:15 PM
Nothing poetic to say about the game here...

Appeal?  To Cricket?  Yes, please do explain yourselves!
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: finnster01 on January 31, 2010, 01:26:06 AM
Beautiful summer day out in the country side. Sit in the stands, drink a few beers, enjoy the weather, the greenery, the smell of fresh cut grass, everyone just having a lazy day, have a bit of a nap, wake up for the odd 6, clap a bit, another beer, maybe another snooze...It is not the game really, as much as it is the day out. Something old fashioned, peaceful and non-disturbed in these crazy days
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Post by: RidgeRider on January 31, 2010, 02:01:59 AM
Thanks Finn, that angle makes more sense to me.

I have to admit I feel like an alien when Dan Crawford and others carry on about the game. I know it must have some appeal in the gamesmanship as well.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: michaelread on January 31, 2010, 01:37:08 PM
here might be the best insight about cricket you have ever heard.....

i am an aussie who really dislikes cricket.

However the ashes roll around, and I remain glued to the screen for all hours of the day, the radio on,  earbuds in, etc.

The appeal is, test cricket, when played against a worthy opposition, is something to fill the boring days.

Lets say it is played over 5 days, so, for my entire work week, I have something to listen to that I can follow. I can switch back to it after listening to some music, I can check the score whenever I feel like it.

The appeal, for me, is I can follow the numbers, and my nation, as passively as I want. You dont need to be involved in the game to enjoy cricket, you just need to love your country, your county, your state, or your local club.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: HatterDon on January 31, 2010, 03:52:17 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on January 30, 2010, 11:29:11 PM
Does anyone know what the appeal is of this game? I feel a bit like TJL when he was going on about baseball back a bit ago.

I have to tell you, having a game last more than 4 hours doesn't make much sense to me.

I suppose if there was a lot of alcohol involved it might be a nice day outdoors, sort of like a double header but truthfully, every doubleheader I have saw, by the 3rd inning of the second game I was so inebriated I could barely see straight.

Can anyone wax poetic on this curious of all games?

So I take it you don't like NFL football then.

Cricket is a lovely game -- at least the non limited over game is. It is brilliant when played well, and diverting even when played by the English these days.
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Post by: boxhockcycsock on February 01, 2010, 10:23:17 AM
I love cricket and I am a yank. It's got so much intriguing strategy. You'd probably have to have had a course in game theory and at least one in statistics though. Fortunately, I have, and am of legal drinking age. It also helps to have played...as with any sport. Wait, did I mention that I am a Yank. Screw cricket! terrible sport....grrrr >:(
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: SteveM19 on February 01, 2010, 07:53:25 PM
Still learning about it. I read the tongue in cheek "One side goes out, then the other goes in... etc." thing several times. I have to say, I kinda like it, it reminds me why I once loved baseball.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on February 03, 2010, 08:42:45 PM
RR have you not been paying attention for the last few summers as we explained it to you all from over the pond, Cricked is played over 3 days that's County or you would say State matches Test matches (Internationals) are played over 5 days, playing for 4 hours is a fun game with time for a few beers but it's like a game of baseball with only one innings.
I am still trying with baseball read a bit watch dvds "for love of the game" is my latest, is Kevin Costner a big fan? as "eight men out" is the only film about baseball i have that hes not staring in, reading "Shoeless Joe" by Ray Kinsella and as i don't know much about the sport it's a hard read, any help with LIGHT baseball reading or dvds that are avalable through Amazon will help.
I had to think about it but yes Sark is overseas so i can post on this board as well.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: SteveM19 on February 03, 2010, 09:47:01 PM
Quote from: tjl on February 03, 2010, 08:42:45 PM
RR have you not been paying attention for the last few summers as we explained it to you all from over the pond, Cricked is played over 3 days that's County or you would say State matches Test matches (Internationals) are played over 5 days, playing for 4 hours is a fun game with time for a few beers but it's like a game of baseball with only one innings.
I am still trying with baseball read a bit watch dvds "for love of the game" is my latest, is Kevin Costner a big fan? as "eight men out" is the only film about baseball i have that hes not staring in, reading "Shoeless Joe" by Ray Kinsella and as i don't know much about the sport it's a hard read, any help with LIGHT baseball reading or dvds that are avalable through Amazon will help.
I had to think about it but yes Sark is overseas so i can post on this board as well.

Kevin Costner looooooves baseball, the two movies listed and Bull Durham, a great flick but I'm not so sure that Brits will relate to it as easily, are cornerstones of his work. For teh love of the game was mediocre, at best.

As far as the culture of the game, I liked Thomas Boswell's "Why time begins on opening day" -- it's a little old, but he captures the feel of the game very well.

A very funny, classic book on the game is Ball Four by Jim Bouton, showing that baseball players can be just as much a bunch of overaged juvenile delinquents as any other sportsmen.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: HatterDon on February 04, 2010, 05:10:06 AM
tjl, once you've finished "Shoeless Joe," try reading "The Iowa Baseball Confederacy," also by Ray Kinsella. I almost fell over when I read it and discovered that the quote that preceeds it was an excerpt from a poem by a friend of mine.

Note to RR: how can a guy who loves the Tour de France think that a game that lasts five days is excessive? Snorting butt butter, I think.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on February 04, 2010, 06:16:06 AM
Thanks Steve and H Don as a person who has to ride a cycle every day (no cars on the rock) to ride for fun is no joke, as a spectator sport the Tour de France sucks open your front door stand for 10 mins that all go by you go back to bed. i will try the books you mention, when i was thinking about it last night i can't think of any good films about football, i enjoyed "love of the game" but then i like a happy ending.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: Logicalman on February 04, 2010, 08:35:43 PM
Being an import into this country, from the country that spawned Cricket, was an eye opener to me when I saw my first baseball game.

Let me set the scene first: I have watched cricket, and just as Mr. Finn explained, it is not a game that one might sit glued to watching, as it is more of a pastime to be there when something happens. My memories of watching it live in the auld country would be to take a six pack, hot summers day, shirt off, shorts on, and gradually work on a tan, whilst slowly getting pissed and glancing over at the poor sods in their whites trying desperately to entertain us all.

Back to the over-the-pond excercise, and I found myself sitting on the bleachers (?), at a local game here in (almost) Sunny Fort Wayne. My memories of the game, apart from asking Suzie many and varied questions and hearing her exasperated replies to the umpteenth time of the same question, was to watch the electronic board to see what actually happened, whenever anything did.

I do have to admit, however, that my lasting impression, upon explaining to the natives what Cricket was, is to explain that baseball is like Cricket, but on steroids (little did I actually know I was closer to the home-run truth than I thought). It was at this explanation that the interest  of the keen student of English games seemed to want somewhat and they would walk away muttering something about "Bloody Brits" and "how on earth did they ever get an empire together".

Thus, I admit to watching little baseball, and even littlier cricket, especially as it is not so readily available over here, though it would definitely be an advertisers dream come true, with the ability to cut to an advert every 30 seconds or so, and still not miss any of the play!!!
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: ron on February 04, 2010, 09:32:44 PM
I like the quote from the actress Tallulah Bankhead when she was asked if she liked baseball. "I detest baseball" she said. The interviewer was amazed. "You don't like America's Pastime?"
"Honey", she said "I am America's pastime"
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: HatterDon on February 08, 2010, 03:54:00 AM
Mr. Logicalman and Mr. RidgeRider are making the same fundamental mistake in trying to understand baseball/cricket by comparing it with cricket/baseball.

Baseball is a unique sport, and it is fruitless to compare it to any other ball sport. Why? Because ONLY IN BASEBALL, does the defending team have the ball.

Each sport is great, and I love them both. Each is pastoral, and each has natural breaks for contemplation and discussion in the stands. Each has its own rhythm that, once you've picked it up, is like consorting with an old familiar lover. EVERY SPORT is boring if you don't understand it.

I have given up on trying to point anything out about soccer to my American football rooting friends -- I almost dread the upcoming World Cup listening to how much more "exciting" soccer would be if they got rid of the offside rule. I thought about how Americans may never get over the scoreline of 0-0. I listened to our match against Bolton that was so horrible that I thought Gentleman Jim was going to resign mid-match and begin rooting for QPR. A half-hour later I began watching another 0-0 match between Villa and Spurs that I could not take my eyes off. The point is, I could never have made that distinction without watching and analyzing the game over a number of years.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on February 15, 2010, 10:27:10 AM
We have some 20/20 cricket coming up, if that can't get you in the grove then there's no hope for you. England are playing Pakistan in the middle east a contrive tournament of no value just to make money and win some cup that will never be seen again, both teams will be trying to win as the cash prize will be high.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: jarv on February 17, 2010, 02:08:40 PM
Way back, for several years, I and a bunch of mates attended one day at the oval, the 5th test match. Always the friday which is often the best day (of 5). The entertainment was great, the match, the humour of drunken aussies or the steel bands when the windies were there. (Windies = West Indies).
The idea was usually to consume a lot of beer but in reality, once you start watching it draws you in. Like any sport, at the top level, the pace and power makes for great entertainment. I could not get the fascination with baseball when I arrived here in USA. Geeezz, what a bunch of girls, they have to wear a glove!! When they throw from the outfield, why can't they get it to a base in one throw? The fielding?? Truly shocking.
Anywauy, I understand it more now and quite enjoy the occasional game.

To play cricket is great fun, especially if you don't take yourself too seriously. 20 overs each, in the pub by 8.30.

The magazine 'when saturday comes" had a great comment on cricket in it's series...A to Z of sh!te sports., as follows"
A game where a bowler bowls 6 balls at a batsman who does not hit any of them and then the crowd applaud the fact that absolutely feck all has happened.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: RidgeRider on February 17, 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: jarv on February 17, 2010, 02:08:40 PM

To play cricket is great fun, especially if you don't take yourself too seriously. 20 overs each, in the pub by 8.30.

The magazine 'when saturday comes" had a great comment on cricket in it's series...A to Z of sh!te sports., as follows"
A game where a bowler bowls 6 balls at a batsman who does not hit any of them and then the crowd applaud the fact that absolutely feck all has happened.

This made me laugh Jarv. Thanks!
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: TheDaddy on February 22, 2010, 01:57:09 PM
As a English man i find the appeal of cricket is that it sends me to sleep ! Wonderful game zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on February 22, 2010, 08:56:04 PM
Daddy, how can a game like yesterdays South Africa v India send any one to sleep 50 overs each down to the last ball, you have to feel sorry for SA after a great fight back to get beat by 1 run and a run out at that.
The last line may confuse some.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: Logicalman on February 24, 2010, 12:38:03 PM
This cricket video will explain it all ..http://www.youtube.com/v/YvGO8JG5yOs (http://www.youtube.com/v/YvGO8JG5yOs)
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on March 02, 2010, 07:43:13 PM
Am i the only person on this exiles board keeping an eye on the cricket ? England won again today the second win in the last few days, a 2 wicket win over Bangladesh that puts us two up in the series some very good cricket, if i could find some baseball on sky i might watch it but you can all see the cricket.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: HatterDon on March 02, 2010, 11:00:12 PM
Quote from: tjl on March 02, 2010, 07:43:13 PM
Am i the only person on this exiles board keeping an eye on the cricket ? England won again today the second win in the last few days, a 2 wicket win over Bangladesh that puts us two up in the series some very good cricket, if i could find some baseball on sky i might watch it but you can all see the cricket.

with only 7 balls left to the worst cricketing side in the world? And with an Irishman and two South Africans in the XI?

Well done, Engerland.

In all seriousness. You may have noticed that THIS thread is the only one on the site that's talking about the one-day series. I think the Exiles and Foreigners are the only ones who care.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on March 03, 2010, 05:02:08 AM
It's the only game in town, you can only beat the team in front of you all wins are good just some taste better. Still can't get round to finishing the Kinsella book waiting for the right type of day.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: Steve_orino on March 24, 2010, 02:37:00 AM
Did we lose Mr. TJL to baseball books?  Way to go Hatter! :)

We miss your Sark updates TJL, come back to us!

For what it's worth, it may be called the Exiles & Foreigners Exchange but I really just use it as an Off-Topic board.  Not sure why the Englanders don't come in here for more banter about NonFulhamRelated stuff.  I don't understand cricket and won't try but I've enjoyed reading the posts in this thread...
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on April 02, 2010, 03:05:24 PM
Hi again all, i posted on the other site a few days ago, on Sark the teams are in training for the football /cricket /hockey season . Hockey is a new sport to us as we have only seen a few games on the rock, So i6t will be great to see live sport, on this little rock you can play football on a Saturday morning Cricket in the afternoon and Hockey on Sunday as we only have about 20 fit young men they play all sports . so the season is starting and up dates will be forthcoming.
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Post by: finnster01 on April 02, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
Good stuff Mr tjl.

Look forward to the reports.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: HatterDon on April 02, 2010, 07:16:33 PM
It's also worth pointing out that while Mr. Finn is a LEGEND on the site [by virtue of his six balls], on this particular thread, he is also an OVER.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: FatFreddysCat on April 18, 2010, 06:34:19 PM
All you need to know about cricket is that it's played by gay posh people and it's very boring. I think it's fair to say i've covered cricket.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on April 20, 2010, 06:55:16 PM
Having just got back from some time in England i learn that our Island team is in training for the coming season with a lot of workers on the rock we are hoping to find a few decent players to boost our team first match is in 2 weeks, i will report soon . Our football season has got off to a bad start having lost our first two games i did see the second of the two and we were one up for all of 3 mins but the second half our lack of fitness showed and we went down 5-1 the team from Guernsey were just to strong but after lunch and a few beers they were looking like they had lost, so you have to do more than just play football to win on Sark, and as for FFCat at cricket you can relax have a few beers with no stewards on the rock.
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Post by: Steve_orino on April 21, 2010, 01:11:14 AM
Was reading this thread just the other day wondering when the next 'Sark-report' would come in from Mr. tjl...

Thanks for posting!  Good to hear all is well.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: Tom on April 21, 2010, 04:57:42 AM
I love baseball and im watching my Padres right now but I can't get that damn Cricket.   :002:
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: Logicalman on April 22, 2010, 12:05:00 AM
There is nothing wrong with the great game of Cricket that two goals, a larger ball and and pitch 100 by 70 yds wouldn't fix.  :005:
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on April 23, 2010, 06:25:22 AM
Logicalman or should that be Philistine?
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: Logicalman on April 24, 2010, 03:22:16 AM
Quote from: tjl on April 23, 2010, 06:25:22 AM
Logicalman or should that be Philistine?

OK, as it's you, Phil for short!!  :011:  :011:
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on April 24, 2010, 06:45:56 AM
Well that's as maybe Phil, but i will spend the afternoon at the cricket with a beer in hand and a sandwich and the only runner i need is called for every 20 mins to refill my glass, and on this predicted hottest day of the year and watching cricket can be thirsty work you should try it some time, no one can say i dont suffer for my sport. :52:
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: Logicalman on April 24, 2010, 12:06:57 PM
Quote from: tjl on April 24, 2010, 06:45:56 AM
Well that's as maybe Phil, but i will spend the afternoon at the cricket with a beer in hand and a sandwich and the only runner i need is called for every 20 mins to refill my glass, and on this predicted hottest day of the year and watching cricket can be thirsty work you should try it some time, no one can say i dont suffer for my sport. :52:

tj,
Now I have managed to free my tongue from my cheek, I will tell you, I used to go and watch the odd cricket match prior to emigrating, and I have to agree, the essentials were a 6 pack, snacks and plenty of sun-tan lotion mate. Over here in the colonies, such an opportunity is denied me except in the extreme, and so it's something the locals here will not have the true opportunity to experience (whether that be good or bad).

Have another drink for me, mate  :045:
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on April 25, 2010, 07:04:46 AM
As usual i got it wrong yesterday was only tryouts and a pick up game i misread the notice, first  match is next Saturday but a great afternoon, sun beer and a sandwich, it's one of the things about passing 60 one may make observations and pass comments "in my day!!" and the youngsters go away muttering silly OLD fool, it's good because i just you remind them that in the past i've changed there nappies, and is the great thing about living on a small Island you know everyone and you have seen them all grow up.
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Post by: HatterDon on May 11, 2010, 10:43:41 PM
Cricket is important if for no other reason that it gives England something to lose at the international level during summers when there's no European Nations Cup or World Cup.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: ron on May 12, 2010, 12:09:43 AM
Now how could we avoid losing....Ah, I know, we'll have a "World Series" in cricket, but not invite anyone else to take part......except maybe Japan and Puerto Rico.... :045:
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: HatterDon on May 12, 2010, 03:01:13 AM
you just need to have better South Africans in your XI, Ron.


By the way, I LOVE cricket; just couldn't resist the nudge at England with 6/14 looming.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: ron on May 12, 2010, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on May 12, 2010, 03:01:13 AM
you just need to have better South Africans in your XI, Ron.


By the way, I LOVE cricket; just couldn't resist the nudge at England with 6/14 looming.

I know you do Mr. H....I was just fishing for a couple of bites from the Baseball fan community...but no luck so far   :016:
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: Steve_orino on May 13, 2010, 03:47:19 AM
Quote from: ron on May 12, 2010, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on May 12, 2010, 03:01:13 AM
you just need to have better South Africans in your XI, Ron.

By the way, I LOVE cricket; just couldn't resist the nudge at England with 6/14 looming.
I know you do Mr. H....I was just fishing for a couple of bites from the Baseball fan community...but no luck so far   :016:

What's Baseball?  <smiley-guy shruggin> or this guy works... :032:
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on May 14, 2010, 06:08:38 AM
Well our England team are through to the final of the 20/20s, and going back to the use of a couple of SA players who are all qualified to play for England, It's not that long ago in the USA if you didn't pick up the ball and run with it on a soccer pitch you were granted instant citizenship and capped to play for America, you must have had a team with a player from every continent. :011:
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: HatterDon on May 14, 2010, 03:51:06 PM
Quote from: tjl on May 14, 2010, 06:08:38 AM
Well our England team are through to the final of the 20/20s, and going back to the use of a couple of SA players who are all qualified to play for England, It's not that long ago in the USA if you didn't pick up the ball and run with it on a soccer pitch you were granted instant citizenship and capped to play for America, you must have had a team with a player from every continent. :011:

We did, indeed, sir. The "best" of this category was a LB named David Regis. He had an American wife, and played in Ligue1, and this was enough for the USSF to believe that he'd be our key in France '98. He was about half as fast on the turn as Franck Queudrue, and was eaten alive in our "worst in the tournament" performance.

As far as I know, after the WC he never came back to the USA and didn't do a whole lot more playing. The South Africans are interesting. I remember the effect of South Africa's international sports ban. England had a chubby "cape colored" cricketer named Basil D'Olivera, and the USA had a striker named Roy Wegerle -- neither of whom would have played for anyone else other than SA, had it been possible. I'm not quite sure how Pieterson and the other SA players get away with turning out for England.
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Post by: tjl on May 15, 2010, 06:30:34 AM
Morning HD and all cricket fans we have a great weekend coming up, a 20/20 final V South Africa for England, about our SA born players as far as i under stand you have to reside in UK and play County cricket for two years, this makes you eligible this is my understanding of the rules, in the USA if you arrive at Ellis Island carrying a cricket bat you get a free set of whites and a box and turn out in the next fixture?
Our cricket team are on one of there rare away weekends up at our most northern Channel Island Alderney, with a game today and another on Sunday i can't go as after busy week with Liberation day last Monday i have to do some work results next week. 
Just to finish up a bone to pick with HD i now have two bum buys from US, the second Kinsella book that is hard going plus Bob and Tom radio that you used to advertise at the end of your posts i found it on Amazon, thinking back there must have been wine taken because on arrival it turns out to be region 1 what did i expect buying from the US, yes i know i can change the computer to view it but that involves paying for a holiday for my 6 year grandson Jack as i don't change anything without his help.
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Post by: HatterDon on May 16, 2010, 10:13:54 PM
Mr. tjl

First of all:

Congratulatioins to England for winning the 20/20 World Cup.

Second of all:

Don't stop reporting on "cricket on the rock"

Third of all:

I had convinced the lads in the pub on Wednesday that the BEST result in the Europa Cup final would have been Fulham 3-1, as you'd have certainly cleaned up a ton of dosh, even though none of them knew who you were.

Fourth of all:

I'm sorry you're finding the Kinsella book slow going. I fell in love with it, but then I'm into all that South American magic realism stuff in fiction. I figure if you liked Shoeless Joe, then you might like The Iowa Baseball Confederacy, but it was never a given.

Fifth of all:

SIGH. The Bob and Tom Show was a morning radio program in Houston [all of us discovered AFTER we named our band "The Tim and Bob Show"]. Take a look at the difference in the names. If you're interested in the band and what we sound and look like, here's the website again:

www.thetimandbobshow.com

You can even order our CD there. I'm not sure whether you can get it on Amazon.com. Have a great summer, and keep in touch.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on May 17, 2010, 05:30:38 AM
 :002: Yet again i got it wrong sorry about that, but to redeem myself i ordered your latest cd, now that's over. What a great win, we do love to beat the aussies looking forward to going to work this morning we have one working with us he's about 25 act's about 12 when they win can't be found if they don't so seeing him this morning is a long shot.
Our cricket team get back this morning so will post the results and any interesting tales.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: HatterDon on May 17, 2010, 02:22:26 PM
I hope you enjoy the CD as much as you did the 20/20 result. Watch your post box for its arrival soon.


and Thanks.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on May 19, 2010, 06:20:15 AM
The lads come back from their trip to our northern neighbor Alderney having lost the cricket and Upset at finding a team that could match them drink for drink, so a good weekend was had by all, apart from the result, first proper home match coming up this Saturday.
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: FatFreddysCat on May 19, 2010, 08:24:02 PM
Cricket teams drink Pimms. Fact.  :046: .
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: Steve_orino on May 20, 2010, 12:21:38 AM
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on May 19, 2010, 08:24:02 PM
Cricket teams drink Pimms. Fact.  :046: .

The wife and I had that stuff in our 'signature' drink for our wedding!!!  A Pimm Cup they called it.


The lady coordinating the wedding didn't realize it was an alcoholic drink and they served a couple of glasses to kids at the reception...not good  :doh:
Title: Re: Cricket? Are you kidding me?
Post by: tjl on May 26, 2010, 07:31:12 PM
Test match starts tomorrow onwards and upwards England, wanted to go watch the cricket on the rock last Saturday but just before closing up the workshop the phone went some bugger having nothing better to do kicked in a old temporary door on a cottage under renovation so had to go and make repairs, so missed the cricket, and judging by the amount of empties and dog ends some people just had no other place to party after Friday night, hope they had a hell of a hang over.
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Post by: CorkedHat on May 28, 2010, 02:40:09 AM
As anybody who is sufficiently insane enough to read my meanderings on Face Book will know I am a veritable sports addict.
I love Football, Rugby League, Rugby Union, Aussie Rules, Cricket, Swimming. Athletics, Boxing, Cycling, Lawn Bowls and Olympic Rowing.
But any sport that was spawned in America such as Basketball, Baseball and Grid Iron has me searching for the nearest blanket in which I can bury my head and scream.
I fully appreciate that if I had been born or just even migrated to America I would have been sucked in by these sports in the same way that I am now addicted to Aussie Rules, but viewing them from afar suits me just fine. (The further the better, particuarly Basketball which next to Synchronised Swimming must be the most mind numbing game ever invented).
I don't expect anyone to experience the same orgasmic exhiliration I receive when watching my beloved Carlton win a game in Aussie Rules. but given that we have often have crowds of 60,000 to 80,000 for a normal Home and Away game in a city with a population base of 4 million says it all really.
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Post by: Logicalman on May 28, 2010, 10:07:04 AM
Quote from: CorkedHat on May 28, 2010, 02:40:09 AM

I fully appreciate that if I had been born or just even migrated to America I would have been sucked in by these sports in the same way ..........

nah, you wouldn't have, take it from someone who has tried for the past 12 years - it still doesn't do anything for me. I guess we were spoiled watching a truly competitive game with few breaks where sportsmen had to think for themselves for more than 10 seconds. I do keep trying though, at least I won't be a quitter.  :006:
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Post by: CorkedHat on May 28, 2010, 02:13:03 PM
You are probably right about basketball Mr L.
I honestly cannot see why anyone would want to watch nine feet tall African Americans take it in turn to drop a ball in a net. It is seriously the most inane game I can think of.
Even though Australia have churned out a few stars such as Luc Longley, Andrew Bogut and Lauren Jackson the game has failed to take off in any meaningful way over here.
Brisbane who won the title a few years back are no more and this is the third largest city in Australia.
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Post by: FatFreddysCat on May 29, 2010, 01:03:34 AM
Good call about basket ball Mr C Hat, it is terrible, even worse than cricket in fact. But cricket is a bit gayer to be honest.
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Post by: finnster01 on May 29, 2010, 03:13:15 AM
Quote from: CorkedHat on May 28, 2010, 02:13:03 PM
You are probably right about basketball Mr L.
I honestly cannot see why anyone would want to watch nine feet tall African Americans take it in turn to drop a ball in a net. It is seriously the most inane game I can think of.
Even though Australia have churned out a few stars such as Luc Longley, Andrew Bogut and Lauren Jackson the game has failed to take off in any meaningful way over here.
Brisbane who won the title a few years back are no more and this is the third largest city in Australia.
Mr John,

I don't actually disagree with you Mr Corked Hat, but I will say this. In the inner city of New York, there are some tremendous athletes who's only sport they grow up with is basketball. There is no place here to play soccer/football (even the american version).
These kids are great kids in all sense of the word. They may not have everything we have, but even I had a bunch of poo growing up in London and my old man died when I was 10 so helping out the youth here appeals to me. I am now getting close to help financing the first football/soccer bin in the projects here in Harlem which I hope will be huge. Maybe it will help, maybe it will not, but if a bunch of 9 ft African Americans even end up playing Scrabble that is a shitload better than robbing me on the way back from my local liquor store.

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Post by: CorkedHat on May 29, 2010, 04:23:10 AM
Fair call Mr Finn.
When I was growing up in Battersea with the arse hanging out of my trousers the only other option to becoming a professional footballer was to become a professional boxer.
I was sent off to the Caius Amateur Boxing Club (who produced ABA Champion Peter Benneyworth).
In my first and only bout I shook hands with my opponent and the next thing I know is some bloody referee smacking me on the face and saying, "Come on son – it's all over."
It was all over alright – for ever.
I had been hit full whack in the comic cuts and it wasn't until then that I realised that when people are knocked out they do actually see stars. I thought that was something that only happened in the comic strips but I saw a whole effing galaxy.
Keep your chin tucked in, hold your gloves up high and move about the ring – don't be a target. That was the advice I received as I jogged out to the centre of the ring
Right you are boss, leave it with me.
Now where did I leave my scrabble board?
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Post by: Logicalman on May 30, 2010, 12:32:17 PM
Got to agree with Mr F's comments about the inner cities.

When growing up with such sports, it becomes second nature and common to play in that manner (the breaks every ten second I mean). I do recall a conversation some years back when we were talking soccer over here with some work-mates. These guys were true blue Americans, who had never really given soccer a second thought, and one comment I found a little naive at first was when one mentioned that the nil-nil draw that had just taken place must have been one of the most boring games ever. I took time to convince him that in real football it's not always about how many goals you score (or points as they believed it was called), but the game play itself, but it was all to no avail. They just couldn't get over the lack of goals.

That got me to thinking about American sports in a totally different way. It IS all about the points scored, and that, together with the mandatory advertisement breaks required to have the game on TV, is the reason for the (excessive??) breaks we see in virtually all American-sourced games.

The point I am trying to make is that this is as much a culture thing as Bangers-and-Mash versus Pumpkin Pie is, a difference in upbringing only, and as such, each sport does need to be respected.

Good luck with the soccer-to-Harlem project Mr F, support you all the way on that one mate. One day the USA will have a team that they can honestly claim IS one for the world stage, without the derisory comments from their own fellow Americans - but hopefully not this year!  :dft011:  :dft012:
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Post by: tjl on June 06, 2010, 12:45:47 AM
Hi all it's nice to be back had a bit of trouble with the computer, my o my i am going to retrain as a computer whiz over £60 per hour he charged and it was all something to do with me mother, anyway Sark won 6-0 this morning and were doing well at the cricket this afternoon when i was called away to play yes PLAY in a darts tournament a one day event in the island hall over 40 players on 4 boards going on all afternoon and  into the evening, another first on the rock, you would think it's easy i used to be able to  through a mean arrow i won my first game 2 sets to 1 but the break spent at the bar and a 20 year old with no respect for age did me 2-0 in my second trip to the "ochey"  why o why do they change things when they mend your machine none of the knobs are in the same place but the valves do warm up quicker.
PS good tape HD 
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Post by: HatterDon on June 06, 2010, 05:43:11 AM
thanks, tjl.

I really do miss cricket at the village level. Test match cricket is all well and good, but a village match on a warm sunny sleepy day is where it's really at.
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Post by: Logicalman on June 06, 2010, 11:10:06 AM
tjl, now that's a sport worth a great mention, Darts. I used to play in the UK before crossing the pond, and when I took it up whilst in OK I was introduced to the soft-tips (or electronic) version. I'd seen it played by Cliff Lazarenko some years earlier when he played a tournament in Germany, but never experienced it in the flesh, so to speak. Now up north, we play both leagues.

Game rules and format change a little here in the States than good old blighty, but the basics of the game are the same. Yet another export from England (as a formal game - dates back to Henry VIII even) that has circumnavigated the globe.
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Post by: tjl on June 08, 2010, 06:12:41 AM
I started playing darts when i was allowed the odd half pint as an under aged 17 year old, dad and his mates all played darts, it was almost a rights of passage you had to chalk the board (score) for the right to play the winner on a good Saturday night you might get to play 4 or 5 games, as you got better and maybe winning a game or two up to the point when on a good night a winning run could see you only chalking just the once to get on the board. Sunday lunchtimes was a different pub and cards was the game played did any one ever play a game called Nap short for Napoleon with the best hand being a Wellington winning all, mind you that was over 35 years ago and all i remember about the game, one tends to go off on tangents going down memory lane.
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Post by: finnster01 on June 08, 2010, 07:04:26 AM
I once remember watching Jocky Wilson in a tournament in Glasgow in the mid/late eighties warming up with 8 pints of lager, followed by matchplay and an absolutely astonishing series of 180'ies. Too bad what has happened to him now though.
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Post by: Logicalman on June 12, 2010, 11:41:36 AM
Quote from: finnster01 on June 08, 2010, 07:04:26 AM
I once remember watching Jocky Wilson in a tournament in Glasgow in the mid/late eighties warming up with 8 pints of lager, followed by matchplay and an absolutely astonishing series of 180'ies. Too bad what has happened to him now though.
You are so right there Finn, it was a personal disaster for him, but he still has his pride and refuses interviews. Interesting facts about his wife though, had to be hard for him with the Falkland war and all that's been going on.
One of the great characters of the sport, nonetheless, and it seems as the showbiz moved in, such great characters faded away.

Still the greatest of all time - Eric Bristow - was my favorite and the one I looked up to so much.
(http://www.reddragondarts.com/userdata/PRODTHM-1017.jpg) I still use Harrows and the CC flights. Interestingly enough, his achievements can only be matched (or overtaken) by Phil 'The Power' Taylor, possibly THE greatest ever player recognized by the world of darts, and it was Eric that discovered Phil, financed and mentored him. Weird the way all that worked out in the end.
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Post by: HatterDon on July 13, 2010, 04:50:26 PM
anything you can play after drinking 8 pints of lager is NOT a sport. Much the same as golf: anything a 90 year old can play twice a week is NOT a sport.

Both are recreations. Now CRICKET!!!! There's a sport!