We have 46 games to play. If we can win 30 that will give us 90 points and guarantee promotion.
Can we do the double over 15 teams . I think we can and if we can't manage that then we can pick up a few draws.
Although we have a difficult start against four of the teams that are tipped to go up.
Away to Ipswich, followed by two home games against Millwall and Wolves.
Away at Derby, home to Cardiff, ( two favourites to get promoted) Away to Reading and Forest and home to Blackburn.
We should be looking for 18 points from these 8 games.
I am looking forward to watching Fulham turn Craven Cottage into a Fortress again.
We need a good start to the season.
It's going to be a lot tougher than most think.
We'll get playoffs
Not overly confident, and will reserve judgment until we get the initial few games under our belt.
The team we will be fielding in our first match will be radically different than what we saw last season. That's a good thing, but ideally the transition should have been made progressively over a couple of seasons rather than radically over a couple of months.
There are more settled squads out there who will be pushing on... Brighton, Reading, Forest, Watford, etc.
we need to get off to a flyer... that will restore confidence in ourselves and instill fear in the opposition.
i actually don't think that will happen.... i suispect we will be rather indifferent and finish just below half way BUT if we start to put in good performances. play as a team, restore the work ethic and team spirit and bring through the younger players then the season after will be more interesting.
Easy league get out of you need a good goal keeper a solid back, 4 midfielders that close down tbe opposition and a striker or 2.that can bang it into the back of the onion bag. So the exact opposite.to what we did last year.
Quote from: Burt on July 15, 2014, 10:20:20 PM
Not overly confident, and will reserve judgment until we get the initial few games under our belt.
The team we will be fielding in our first match will be radically different than what we saw last season. That's a good thing, but ideally the transition should have been made progressively over a couple of seasons rather than radically over a couple of months.
There are more settled squads out there who will be pushing on... Brighton, Reading, Forest, Watford, etc.
Something tells me that Blackburn Rovers will be there, thereabouts..
Quote from: Nero on July 15, 2014, 10:56:36 PM
Easy league get out of you need a good goal keeper a solid back, 4 midfielders that close down tbe opposition and a striker or 2.that can bang it into the back of the onion bag. So the exact opposite.to what we did last year.
That's eight good players you need then.
In my book you need eleven PL quality players plus half a dozen quality reserves to stand a chance of competing at the very top of the Championship. The last time we won through we had
at least that.
Quote from: ron on July 15, 2014, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 15, 2014, 10:56:36 PM
Easy league get out of you need a good goal keeper a solid back, 4 midfielders that close down tbe opposition and a striker or 2.that can bang it into the back of the onion bag. So the exact opposite.to what we did last year.
That's eight good players you need then.
In my book you need eleven PL quality players plus half a dozen quality reserves to stand a chance of competing at the very top of the Championship. The last time we won through we had at least that.
That will never happen again. When we did it, we were the first club to have a multi-millionaire owner, and we managed to attract players to the Championship that would never dream of coming today. People need to forget how we won the Championship last time, 13 years on and things have changed considerably. To get out of this time around, we require a well organized, well structured, physical, but free flowing side that is prepared to play week in, week out.
How much quality do you really need I mean Burnley & Blackpool have got out of the league without much quality more down to teamwork and puting pressue on the man with the ball
any scrimping or saving in the next few weeks could be fatal, we need premiership quality players and that doesnt come cheap.
Anyone who thinks that the Championship will be a walk in the park...well, I'd like some of what you are drinking because it obviously will take the piss out. Do I think we have a reasonable shot of promotion in one season? As good as anyone! Not to mention I think we will have the most physically prepared team in the league, which counts for a ton when players are tired late in the season. I think we can expect to finish around 4th +/- 1 spot and be in the playoffs. What ever happens then, we will see. Give the team a chance, put our faith in this new and invigorated squad, and we may just do it!
I am of the opinion that the gap in terms of quality between 7th and 8th in the Premier League is larger than the gap between 8th in the Premier League and mid-to-lower-mid-table in the Championship. We're essentially going up against 15 or 20 teams which are of at least comparable but more likely better quality than the team which saw us relegated last season and a couple of also-rans.
I very much like the movement I have seen so far in terms of transfers and signings but as Admin points out, you can't really buy your way out of the Championship these days and it would be very easy to become just another face in the crowd if we don't come out of the blocks flying. There's 18 or 19 other teams in the league who have been to the Premiership and some with more pedigree than us.
Everything is going to have to click very nicely together from day one or we could find ourselves down here for a while. I'm just going to go ahead and jinx it though: There's absolutely no mission of us doing the double drop.
I'll reserve judgement until we've played a few games, but I do feel positive about the squad Felix is assembling.
But I hope people don't get too down on the team if we don't start performing straight away, and have a couple of poor results, because it may take time to gel- but I think fans may be impatient.
More points than the other teams in the championship?
Get your money on win and to go up. Maggie's creating a team of Unsullieds.
bling....sitting on the throne.....ohhhhhh lol.
You need plenty of Skill a lot of hard work and a few who are willing to die for the cause. You also need good support
On average over last 13 years you have needed 94 pts to be champions.
Its been won with as little as 87 but the trend is you need more pts than ever to win it.
I would say we need a breakdown of 27 wins and 13 draws and only 6 losses to be champs and get 94 pts.
How does that look now?
It is an incredibly long season, promotion won't be won with either a good start, middle or end of season. It has to be achieved by picking up points all along the whole fixture list. Picking up points when we have off days, winning ugly, as they say. If we are in the mix come April then most of us will be happy. We could even see us run out at Wembley again.
Good football, Good home form and the abillity to win games you sometimes don't deserve to.
I think if FM sort us out at the back, we have enough quality in the final third to make a difference.... I think we will get promotion and may even win the league.
I very much doubt we have the squad yet to come close to winning it. We need players in certain areas to come in and perform. We need to be able to adapt and bounce back from the problems that are bound to come our way. But most of all we need to have a forward thinking mentality which given the right players we may well have.
It would be a big ask to expect us to come close to promotion in the first season. Unless we have a few more great signings.
Trust me Light House, you know I am right ;)
The biggest problem, but not the only one, that I can see this season is that we wll be the big team for everyone else to aim at. Thirteen years in the Premiership will make us the team others want to measure temselves against, to see if they could potentially hack it. The fact that we have changed most of a poor squad will mean nothing, unfortunately for us. We could have an awful lot of teams seeing us as their cup final.
It will be a bit like Luton's plight when they went into the Conference. They thought themselves too good to be down there as they had been relegated after a points deduction, and thought promotion back to the league would be relatively straight-forward. Instead they drew games they should have won and lost those they should have drawn. The following season was the same, then most of their better players had moved on and they had to rebuild. It took them until the end of last season to go up, when much of their "league status" glamour had worn off and hard work replaced a vague expectation that they deserved to go up.
If we win promotion, either automatic or via the play-offs, then we will have deserved it.
And no, I do not expect us to go up. Not first time round.
Basically we just need 1 more points than the team that finishes in 3rd place at the end of the season
Quote from: MJG on July 16, 2014, 09:40:47 AM
On average over last 13 years you have needed 94 pts to be champions.
Its been won with as little as 87 but the trend is you need more pts than ever to win it.
I would say we need a breakdown of 27 wins and 13 draws and only 6 losses to be champs and get 94 pts.
How does that look now?
Damn hard
I have major concerns about the center of midfield... I like Scott Parker more than most on here but who else is going to sit deep and pick out passes while contesting with very high pressure from a bunch of jack rabbits that mid table Championship teams have?
I hope that we will be selling one of Ruiz or Mitroglu for a player similar to Huddlestone (strong, hard working and can distribute the ball).
If we do that... I believe that Felix will have this team fit as can be and ready to fight.
I think a playoff place is achievable.
Quote from: FFC73 on July 16, 2014, 02:01:44 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 16, 2014, 09:40:47 AM
On average over last 13 years you have needed 94 pts to be champions.
Its been won with as little as 87 but the trend is you need more pts than ever to win it.
I would say we need a breakdown of 27 wins and 13 draws and only 6 losses to be champs and get 94 pts.
How does that look now?
Damn hard
Yep, and the thing is we have had basically 13 years of mediocrity. Bog standard average. And to suddenly turn into a team capable of that many points seems a bloody hard thing to do.
Other teams have had this type of run broken up by years of being a yo-yo clubs.
Didn't MAF acquire a large part of that $200M debt by buying a number of top level players to play in a league below their talents (competitively speaking), to better ensure the club's promotion? Do you think Khan and his people are doing that now? I see a lot of youngsters. I see they've paid for some proven Championship level players. I see some of the foreign players coming on from leagues not the equivalent of the EPL. But I don't see much in the way of signings of players with EPL experience. And our best players are being shopped or have left. I think you need a number of proven EPL-level players on a Championship side to get promoted quickly back into the EPL. Otherwise, you're in the soup and it's more of a crap shoot.
What will it take to win the Championship?
The signing of Steven Naismith.
We have everry chance but a good start and getting the fortress back at the cottage are essential.
But I think we will do it.
Last time we started with 11 straight wins.......
That would be nice.
Fern that would be accepatable.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on July 16, 2014, 12:21:46 PM
Good football, Good home form and the abillity to win games you sometimes don't deserve to.
I think if FM sort us out at the back, we have enough quality in the final third to make a difference.... I think we will get promotion and may even win the league.
Who stuck a positive rocket up your backside?
Picking up 10pts per month would give us around 90pts, that would surly put us in the shake up
Haha fair point admin, I was on par with you last season on the depression level, maybe even worse..... but this year I am hugely optimistic, the signings we have made along with our youngsters we have coming through make me think we are serious contenders this season. Will certainly have money on us to get promoted, maybe even in the league.
you don't need to beat 15 teams twice...Just win 20 home games and 10 away....not unachievable
I do think you need some wins early on with a young team otherwise heads might start to go down
