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Title: NFR: best drummer
Post by: rogerpnowinFlorida on October 07, 2014, 11:31:28 PM
Ginga Baker  (It wouldn't let me type G I N G E R it changed it to special one ?)
Buddy Rich
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Post by: andyk on October 07, 2014, 11:32:56 PM
Animal, from The Muppets.
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Post by: rogerpnowinFlorida on October 07, 2014, 11:34:02 PM
Animal, from The Muppets.


Nice one
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Post by: Justme on October 07, 2014, 11:59:59 PM
In no particular order John or Jason Bonham, Bill Ward, Cozy Powell, Carl Palmer ...
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Post by: RaySmith on October 08, 2014, 12:13:18 AM
Off of the top of my head-G.Baker, Billy Cobham, Keith Moon, Charlie Watts, Buddy Rich
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Post by: rogerpnowinFlorida on October 08, 2014, 02:17:53 AM
G Baker with  The Baker Gurvitz Army
He's singing some of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlO4981-ygs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlO4981-ygs)
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Post by: rogerpnowinFlorida on October 08, 2014, 02:28:54 AM
Honey Lantree from the Honeycombs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9C3tZwDpx4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9C3tZwDpx4)
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Post by: Mince n Tatties on October 08, 2014, 06:18:21 AM
Billy Cobham.... :drums:
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Post by: Holders on October 08, 2014, 06:42:06 AM
G inger Baker - or Keith Moon for the sheer entertainment.  
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Post by: The Bronsons on October 08, 2014, 06:48:31 AM
Dave Grohl
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Post by: FortCollinsFulham on October 08, 2014, 07:07:31 AM
Bill Stevenson
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Post by: Buffalo76 on October 08, 2014, 07:15:49 AM
Nicko McBrain
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Post by: premFlem on October 08, 2014, 08:04:23 AM
Ian Paice   deep purple   :drums:
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Post by: LBNo11 on October 08, 2014, 08:32:15 AM
...G inger Baker, John Bonham, and my favourite Keith Moon, not for his technical ability, but as said above, pure entertainment value, putting in fills where there wasn't the room - or even the necessity.

Love Reign O'er Me... :drums: :drums: :drums:
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Post by: Harold Shand on October 08, 2014, 08:41:10 AM
Bernard "Pretty" Purdie - he's the most recorded drummer in the world for a reason.

Buddy Rich
Dennis Chambers
special one Baker
Chris Frantz
Michael Shrieve
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Post by: Jem on October 08, 2014, 09:10:36 AM
Keith Moon for me.
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Post by: epsomraver on October 08, 2014, 09:11:42 AM
Phil Collins plus the old bloke from Chas and dave, he is/was highly rated by most
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Post by: cmg on October 08, 2014, 09:26:37 AM
Baker and Bruce - fantastic together: hate each others guts. Some psychological point to be made there (don't ask me, guv.)
When Cream played at St. Mary's Col, Baker got down off his kit and started playing the radiators around the sides of the room - still fanatastic.

Bonham isn't to everyone's taste but I love the way, on 'Rock and Roll' (IV album) the drumming almost becomes part of the vocal.
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Post by: OdecaMynoT on October 08, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
All of the above. Keith Moon, a complete one off.

I love Sly Dunbar. His work,(together with Robbie Shakespeare) with Dylan,Joe Cocker, Grace Jones,to name but a few.

His 'in the pocket' grooves accentuated the strength of the songs and vocalists.
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Post by: Woodlawn on October 08, 2014, 11:09:10 AM
One for the oldies  Louis Belson from Duke Ellington band
If you can find it listen to Skin Deep by "Duke"
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Post by: alfie on October 08, 2014, 11:22:59 AM
special one Baker for me, a massive amount of work goes into his performances but he makes look so easy, am I jealous?
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Post by: Pluto on October 08, 2014, 11:36:09 AM
The guy from Toe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0-esjmXkZg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0-esjmXkZg)
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Post by: Southcoastffc on October 08, 2014, 12:51:17 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, there is only one  - Buddy Rich  :drums:
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Post by: FFC1987 on October 08, 2014, 01:09:38 PM
Corey Taylor
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Post by: Bedford White on October 08, 2014, 02:21:18 PM
Neil Ellwood Peart - Rush
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Post by: Stefano Okaka Chuka on October 08, 2014, 02:31:13 PM
Sid Falck from Overkill, Paul Bostaph (Forbidden, Slayer and Testament); Richard Christie (Death), Gene Hoglan (Death), Dave Lombardo (Slayer).
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Post by: Berserker on October 08, 2014, 02:50:20 PM
Matt Barrick of the Walkmen. One of my favourite bands,  now stopped touring unfortunately
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Post by: NogoodBoyo on October 08, 2014, 03:11:02 PM
I would add Carrot Top Baker.  I say Carrot Top because obviously we're not allowed to write "carrot top hair colour" on here, yet a certain special one did once see fit to say he wanted to kill all Welshmen after a Swansea game.
Notwithstanding that, Carrot Top Baker did play fantastic counter rhythms.
I would also doff my cap to Jon Heismann from Coliseum. 
Best group of drummers?  Burundi Black
Nogood "never say Dai to a Welshie, isit" Boyo
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Post by: rogerpnowinFlorida on October 08, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
Although not strictly a drummer.
The fantastic Ray Cooper (percussion)

He's the little bald geezer seen on so many bands performances.
RAY COOPER - The master of percussion - live at Zenith in Strasbourg 28th may 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuHKX8UpGQw#)
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Post by: Southcoastffc on October 08, 2014, 03:50:47 PM
Although not strictly a drummer.
The fantastic Ray Cooper (percussion)

He's the little bald geezer seen on so many bands performances.
RAY COOPER - The master of percussion - live at Zenith in Strasbourg 28th may 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuHKX8UpGQw#)

I had forgotten about him!  I saw him only a few years ago at, believe it or not, an Elton John charity concert at the Royal Opera House Covent Garden.  The place was rocking!  (Still stick to Buddy Rich as THE all time greatest though)
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Post by: Barrett487 on October 08, 2014, 03:52:14 PM
Ian Paice   deep purple   :drums:

 :plus one:

I give you 'The Mule', live in Japan. Paice was always my favourite stickman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSrTrKFpAYE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSrTrKFpAYE)
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Post by: Barrett487 on October 08, 2014, 03:55:44 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, there is only one  - Buddy Rich  :drums:

Great drummer, and as we we're talking jazz, Billy Cobham and Gene Krupa were damn fine as well!
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Post by: HillingdonFFC on October 08, 2014, 03:59:20 PM
Mate of mine,a very decent drummer himself always cites Jimmy Chamberlin of the Smashing Pumpkins as his biggest influence. Was a jazz drummer originally apparently
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Post by: nose on October 08, 2014, 04:00:31 PM
David Garibaldi IMO without question top of the pile ....
Often imitated   never duplicated

Sol Amarfio  from the original Osibisa top class

Harold Brown  Lowrider Band/War

Clyde Stubbelfield, the original Funky drummer from the James Brown Band
Melvin Parker (maceo's brother) fropm the same outfit

Cedrick Burnside (son of R L Burnside), voted Blues Drummer of the year (recent years)

These boys can all play but are perhaps less well known than some of the above.
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Post by: Stefano Okaka Chuka on October 08, 2014, 04:21:40 PM
Also Tommy Aldridge from Whitesnake and Mikkey Dee from Motorhead.
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Post by: whitejc on October 08, 2014, 04:36:36 PM
listen to this…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmiOKL5pBuM&list=PL68BA5F978C70A58E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmiOKL5pBuM&list=PL68BA5F978C70A58E)

Phil Collins gives a virtuoso performance
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Post by: The Equalizer on October 08, 2014, 04:39:23 PM
Based upon live performances: Stewart Copeland of The Police and Mick Fleetwood. Both of them were incredible on stage.

Otherwise, I'd say Bonzo Bonham.
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Post by: Two Ton Ted on October 08, 2014, 05:05:14 PM
Keith Moon - the who
smelly Eric - NOFX
Phil Taylor - Motorhead
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Post by: Berserker on October 08, 2014, 06:14:08 PM
Don't like Phil Collins after the Fax incident
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Post by: TonyGilroy on October 08, 2014, 06:39:19 PM

Page 3 and STILL nobody's given the right answer.

ELVIN JONES
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Post by: rogerpnowinFlorida on October 08, 2014, 07:53:44 PM
Also Tommy Aldridge from Whitesnake and Mikkey Dee from Motorhead.


Talking of Whitesnake, I used to drink with Mick Moody in the Turks Head, St Margaret's
He left them just before they really took off.
I remember he used to come home from tours and whilst he was away his wife used to
record every episode of Corrie Street.
As soon as he got back he'd 'binge watch' every episode before he did anything else.

Amazing to think that a heavy rock guitarist would play in front of 10.000's knowing that
Ena Sharples, Minnie Caldwell and Martha Longhurst were waiting for him at home  (ish)
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Post by: OdecaMynoT on October 08, 2014, 08:35:58 PM
Also Tommy Aldridge from Whitesnake and Mikkey Dee from Motorhead.


Talking of Whitesnake, I used to drink with Mick Moody in the Turks Head, St Margaret's
He left them just before they really took off.
I remember he used to come home from tours and whilst he was away his wife used to
record every episode of Corrie Street.
As soon as he got back he'd 'binge watch' every episode before he did anything else.
Amazing to think that a heavy rock guitarist would play in front of 10.000's knowing that
Ena Sharples, Minnie Caldwell and Martha Longhurst were waiting for him at home  (ish)

Well it's good to live a bit.

Jon Hiseman is rather handy too.Still playing at the ripe old age of 70 with Colosseum and Paraphernalia.
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Post by: Stefano Okaka Chuka on October 08, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
Also Tommy Aldridge from Whitesnake and Mikkey Dee from Motorhead.


Talking of Whitesnake, I used to drink with Mick Moody in the Turks Head, St Margaret's
He left them just before they really took off.
I remember he used to come home from tours and whilst he was away his wife used to
record every episode of Corrie Street.
As soon as he got back he'd 'binge watch' every episode before he did anything else.

Amazing to think that a heavy rock guitarist would play in front of 10.000's knowing that
Ena Sharples, Minnie Caldwell and Martha Longhurst were waiting for him at home  (ish)

I love Mick Moody and Whotesnake's blues beginnings. Great story! I think I watched them live3 times, one of my favourite band ever.
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Post by: you lucky people on October 08, 2014, 08:58:47 PM
if you like it funky, Joseph 'Zigaboo' Modeliste, if you want your time kept Mighty Max Weinberg, but the most musical of drummers is without doubt Gene Krupa
 
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Post by: Southcoastffc on October 08, 2014, 09:23:02 PM
Has anyone suggested Airfix?  :022:
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Post by: Wimbledon_White on October 08, 2014, 09:43:24 PM
I play the drums; my all time favourite is Dave Grohl. He is a born performer and, although the drumming was very simplistic in Nirvana, he is actually very much an all-rounder. I think my favouritism towards him is biased to growing up on Nirvana and later the Foos though.

The purists would always say Buddie Rich.

The metal heads will always mention the guys from Slayer and the like.

My favourite band of all time is probably Metalica; the less said about old Lars though the better.

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Post by: SoCalJoe on October 09, 2014, 02:16:31 AM
Have seen many great rock drummers, but far and away the best is The Professor aka Neil Peart of Rush.

Funnest drum solo;  Tommy Lee being strapped in and his entire drum kit doing somersaults in the air with Motley Crue.
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Post by: RidgeRider on October 09, 2014, 04:11:06 AM
Neil Ellwood Peart - Rush

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Post by: HatterDon on October 09, 2014, 04:21:25 AM

Page 3 and STILL nobody's given the right answer.

ELVIN JONES

extremely hard to argue with this
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Post by: Bracken White on October 09, 2014, 01:42:05 PM
Some grand old names given above - Sandy Nelson (Teenbeat/Let there be Drums) still alive & playing. The Surfaris Ron Wilson (no relation to the Beach Boys 'Wilsons) was red-hot, too: Wipe Out. John Cushley Climax Blues Band good - & technically Kenny Jones (Small Faces/The Faces/The Who) very good. Loved John Bonham, Ian Paice & the old swing drummers - Krupa, Bellson - but some like Charlie Watts who just kept the beat going very good too. Dave Holland (Trapeze/Judas Priest) springs to mind - but disgraced himself in later life, I believe. Lionel Hampton great too & on the vibes - Preston Epps on the bongos!
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Post by: TonyGilroy on October 09, 2014, 02:07:16 PM
Lionel Hampton great too & on the vibes -

I must have been to literally thousands of concerts and I reckon the best I've ever seen was Lionel Hampton and I wasn't a fan and in a sense I'm still not.

He was closing the Capital Jazz Festival in 1974 and I stayed because I might as well. He had a stonking big band with guests who had been in earlier bands like Illinois Jacquet and Arnett Cobb and the man was all over the place seemingly playing piano, vibes and drums simultaneously whilst jumping about in a frenzy. He'd have been over 60 at the time. Extraordinary energy.

I've yet to see anything like it.
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Post by: Grimson on October 09, 2014, 02:15:31 PM
Some great drummers mentioned here. Neil Peart is perhaps my alltime favourite. But i also got to say Bobby Jarzombeck and Richard Cristy.

And of course: Derek Roddy, George Kolias, Jan Benkwitz (check him out on youtube)
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Post by: Deanothefulhamfan on October 09, 2014, 03:19:29 PM
Lots of amazing drummers mentioned, but a couple of names here are incredible musicians, Dave Grohl and Phil Collins are so incredibly versatile and would be one of the few who names who could fit into several of these recent music threads.

The best live drum and guitar duet was when I saw the Chilli Peppers live. John Frusciante and Chad Smith, with occasionally Flea popping in and out of a half hour duet was amazing.... So for that reason and the fact I think he is an exceptional talent, I will throw Chad's name into the hat



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Post by: Barrett487 on October 09, 2014, 06:25:13 PM
Lionel Hampton great too & on the vibes -

I must have been to literally thousands of concerts and I reckon the best I've ever seen was Lionel Hampton and I wasn't a fan and in a sense I'm still not.

He was closing the Capital Jazz Festival in 1974 and I stayed because I might as well. He had a stonking big band with guests who had been in earlier bands like Illinois Jacquet and Arnett Cobb and the man was all over the place seemingly playing piano, vibes and drums simultaneously whilst jumping about in a frenzy. He'd have been over 60 at the time. Extraordinary energy.

I've yet to see anything like it.

I saw Lionel Hampton at the Capital Jazz Fest as well, but prefered him on vibes. Saw him twice more at the Festival Hall.... 'Flying Home' is still one of my favourite alll-time numbers.
As for his age, when asked he couldn't remember which year he was born, so there were always contradictory numbers flying around. Lionel was a true great of big band swing.... sadly missed.
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Post by: TonyGilroy on October 09, 2014, 06:34:37 PM
First recorded I think in 1930 so must have been over 60 by 1974.

I wish I had a tenth of his energy.
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Post by: mangoputney on October 09, 2014, 10:36:33 PM
I play the drums; my all time favourite is Dave Grohl. He is a born performer and, although the drumming was very simplistic in Nirvana, he is actually very much an all-rounder. I think my favouritism towards him is biased to growing up on Nirvana and later the Foos though.


+1
Grohl & the Hawk

Grohl is an all round music God
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Post by: Burt on October 09, 2014, 11:26:49 PM
Best I have seen live is Robin Guy, at a GMT gig I saw 3 years ago in Leeds (they spun out of Gillan).
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Post by: VB on October 10, 2014, 03:56:34 AM
Neil Ellwood Peart - Rush

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In total agreement, Prat (the road crews nickname for Peart) is one of the best Rock drummers.....ever
but if you asked Neal Peart who the best is, he would say Buddy Rich followed by Kieth Moon then Gene Kruper
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Post by: LBNo11 on October 10, 2014, 08:38:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZC0WHcQFEg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZC0WHcQFEg)

well, best improvised instruments drummer..!

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Post by: CincyFulham1 on October 10, 2014, 10:52:59 AM
RidgeRider and Bedford White are the only two with the correct answer, the rest of you are just rhythmically challenged troglodytes.  While some af the previously mentioned drummers are competent, they just don't measure up to Neil.
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Post by: the nutflush on October 10, 2014, 11:03:48 AM
Dave Grohl

He is a musical genius.  I can't rate him highly enough. 

Rob Hirst from Midnight Oil is the best drummer I have seen live.  Check out his drum solo in "The Power and the Passion".
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Post by: yatewhite on October 10, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
1. Got to be Keith Moon
2. Danny Seraphine (early Chicago, before they went all ballady)
3. John Hiseman
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Post by: Delboy on October 10, 2014, 11:39:40 AM
Also Tommy Aldridge from Whitesnake and Mikkey Dee from Motorhead.
I used to frequent the Turks Head also, did you ever see Ronnie Lane sing from the fire place?

Talking of Whitesnake, I used to drink with Mick Moody in the Turks Head, St Margaret's
He left them just before they really took off.
I remember he used to come home from tours and whilst he was away his wife used to
record every episode of Corrie Street.
As soon as he got back he'd 'binge watch' every episode before he did anything else.

Amazing to think that a heavy rock guitarist would play in front of 10.000's knowing that
Ena Sharples, Minnie Caldwell and Martha Longhurst were waiting for him at home  (ish)
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Post by: The Equalizer on October 10, 2014, 11:43:14 AM
Funnest drum solo;  Tommy Lee being strapped in and his entire drum kit doing somersaults in the air with Motley Crue.

That was on the Girls Girls Girls tour wasn't it?

I see nobody has mentioned Phil from Emergency Bitter yet!
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Post by: Delboy on October 10, 2014, 11:47:58 AM
Clem Cattini, who was one of the orininal Tornados, went on to become a session drummer and has played with loads of groups, too many to list, must be up there.
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Post by: rogerpnowinFlorida on October 10, 2014, 02:54:58 PM
 While some af the previously mentioned drummers are competent, they just don't measure up to Neil.


You're right.

Neal Peart        6' 4"
Tommy Lee      6' 2"
Dave Grohl       6' 0"
John Bonham   5' 10"
Buddy Rich       5' 9"
Keith Moon       5' 9"
Gene Krupa      5' 8"
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Post by: Andy_M on October 10, 2014, 04:44:02 PM
Having read through this entire thread I cannot believe my eyes that not one person has mentioned Travis Barker. As a drummer there is nothing the guy can't do. Have had the pleasure of seeing some of his drum solo's live and they are incredible.

Youtube him and you'll see some great videos.

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Post by: cottage expat on October 10, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Gene Krupa; Buddy Rich; special one Baker = the three greats
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Post by: Cottagism on October 10, 2014, 06:15:32 PM
Late to the party, I should like - for what it's worth - to add:

* Dave Mattacks

* Steve Gadd (If the only thing he'd ever done was 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover, it would be quite enough to secure his legacy)

* Levon Helm (the drumming on those The Band albums - the faves for me being "The Band" and "Stage Fright" - is just so damn musical)
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Post by: Willard on October 10, 2014, 08:52:57 PM
Elvin Jones
Tony Williams
special one Baker
Billy Cobham
Arthur 'Artie' Tripp (The Mothers and Captain Beefheart)
Keef Hartley - RIP
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Post by: CorkedHat on October 11, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Earl Palmer - in my view nobody comes close, and yet nobody has mentioned him even though he is in the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame