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Title: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: love4ffc on October 12, 2014, 06:15:37 PM
Continuing the theme.  Name a musician who you think has had more influence on other musicians in your humble opinion.
 
For me it is Frank Zappa.  Musicians use to seek him out just to play with him.  Bands would ask him to produce their albums or songs.  He even did the art on album covers. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa)

So without further ado, I give you Frank Zappa

Frank Zappa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSsRTuXfAUc#)
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: RaySmith on October 12, 2014, 06:44:03 PM
Lonnie Donnegan influenced a whole generation of British musicians with his hit recording of Leadbelly's Rock Island Line -and these musicians returned in turn to Lonnie's sources, the America blues musicians such as Leadbelly himself, Robert Johnson, Howling Wolf, BB King etc.

The Beatles, and, of course, Bob Dylan are enormously influential figures in the course of popular music.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: TonyGilroy on October 12, 2014, 07:06:59 PM
Louis Armstrong

Charlie Parker

Miles Davis

Jimmie Rodgers

Hank Williams

Bob Dylan

T Bone Walker

Les Paul

Townes Van Zandt

Chuck Berry

Bo Diddley

Muddy Waters

Robert Johnson

Lonnie Johnson
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: Sir Alec of good Stock on October 12, 2014, 07:07:37 PM
Dr Feelgood-Paul Weller, Sex Pistols
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Post by: love4ffc on October 12, 2014, 07:10:33 PM
Some would disagree but I think Darrell Hall.
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Post by: love4ffc on October 12, 2014, 07:14:29 PM
Along the lines of the sex pistols I would say Luo Reed.
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Post by: HatterDon on October 12, 2014, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on October 12, 2014, 07:10:33 PM
Some would disagree but I think Darrell Hall.

You are absolutely correct, sir! I definitely disagree.


About the thread in general, there isn't a successful musician anywhere who hasn't been hugely influenced by tons of musicians.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: CorkedHat on October 13, 2014, 06:19:20 AM
Bert Weedon
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: The Bronsons on October 13, 2014, 08:22:35 AM
Robert Johnson
Chuck Berry
Lonnie Donegan
Dr Feelgood

They've all been suggested already, so this is just a long-winded and selective "+1"
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: TonyGilroy on October 13, 2014, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: CorkedHat on October 13, 2014, 06:19:20 AM
Bert Weedon

Bizzarely he's very probably the most influential of all as every British guitarist of the 60s learned from his book.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: Southcoastffc on October 13, 2014, 09:42:15 AM
Mozart. The daddy of them all. And JS Bach.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: the nutflush on October 13, 2014, 10:58:31 AM
Frank Black (or Black Francis as he is now known)

The Clash

The Beach Boys





Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: The Equalizer on October 13, 2014, 12:56:19 PM
David Bowie is cited as biggest influence by more bands than any other.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: Burt on October 13, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
Quote from: CorkedHat on October 13, 2014, 06:19:20 AM
Bert Weedon

Yay! My namesake... Even though he can't spell Burt...  :dft011:

Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: Burt on October 13, 2014, 12:57:38 PM
Prince.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: CorkedHat on October 14, 2014, 11:40:07 AM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on October 13, 2014, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: CorkedHat on October 13, 2014, 06:19:20 AM
Bert Weedon

Bizzarely he's very probably the most influential of all as every British guitarist of the 60s learned from his book.

The Beatles freely admit this
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: akf on October 14, 2014, 02:02:17 PM
Tom Waits
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: Forever Fulham on October 14, 2014, 08:35:06 PM
On a micro/personal level, it would be my first guitar teacher, who had a minor hit with a tune called "Canadian Sunset Twist".   My grandfather (who died before I had any memory of him) led a combo/mini-orchestra that played regularly at the Book Cadillac Building in downtown Detroit.  He wrote a song recorded by Bing Crosby called "Corn Belt Symphony" that I heard was small hit in its day.  I've got the published sheet music somewhere...  I, too, think Zappa was influential.  I had about 4 of his albums.  He was a very skilled guitarist.  Once you got past all of the goofing around and concept themes captured on vinyl, he was actually taking jazz in a new direction.  I think for pianists, Thelonius Monk, a far better one-note practitioner than Bill Evans, influenced a generation.  My dad grew up playing boogie woogie piano and listening to a wide range of jazz artists.  Art Tatum ("who's the other guy playing with him, dad?"  "No one."), Teddy Wilson (very influential), the Canadian musical genius Oscar Peterson (best ever).  Today, Joe Sample carries the torch(modern piano jazz), though I think he just died.  My father thought Nat King Cole was an influential pianist.  Few today know he was far more than a singer.  When jazz piano fell out favor, as did jazz in general, New Age pianists like George Winston filled the void to appeal to changing tastes.  But for rock/pop, you'd have to put Chuck Berry near the top of the list, yes?  I think the Eagles influenced a generation of folk rock acts.   Neil Young was a seminal influence.  For bluegrass, and that High Lonesome sound, you gotta go with Monroe.  Mark Isham likely inspired a generation of jazz trumpeters. 
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on October 14, 2014, 10:12:53 PM
Depends on who exactly was "influenced" & by whom
Ry Cooder
Jackson Browne
John Fogerty
Elton John & Bernie Taupin
Mark Knopfler
James Taylor
Eric Clapton
& on & on..............
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: YankeeJim on October 14, 2014, 10:45:32 PM
I sometimes think that there is nothing new in music, only the further stretching of boundaries. There is very little music that I don't like and that that I don't is probably due to me not understanding it. Indian sitars come to mind. It is all good and it is all a gift to us mortals.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on October 15, 2014, 04:06:06 AM
Johnny Cash
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: Big Martin Jol on October 15, 2014, 05:09:26 PM
A terrible cliché, but Michael Jackson had perhaps the definitive influence on mainstream music (across several genres) today.

It's fashionable to rubbish him - particularly as a Fulham fan - but if you can let yourself forget the guff surrounding him, he really was something else as a musician and a performer. I saw him live once (and had tickets to see him again, but he went and died on me) and the sheer energy and precise choreography was astonishing. His voice was fantastic too, four octaves I think? He doesn't get a lot of credit for it.

Of course he took his inspiration from the likes of James Brown and Sammy Davis Jr. and acted as a conduit for their influence, which we see in Justin Timberlake, Usher, Ne-Yo, Lady Gaga etc. today.

I know a lot of people (old timers  :005:) will claim that the latter group aren't fit to clean the shoes of the former group, but I think that's just a matter of viewing your own 'era' through rose-tinted spectacles. I do it myself.

That aside, in my mind MJ was really the first of the 'contemporary' superstars, and with the media being as diffuse as it is today we probably won't see anyone have the same level of influence again.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on October 15, 2014, 05:36:50 PM
My dear forgetful friends, I give you the influencer of all musical influencers......Gunga!


http://youtu.be/UnwOE_44D9M (http://youtu.be/UnwOE_44D9M)
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: love4ffc on October 15, 2014, 10:47:45 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on October 15, 2014, 05:36:50 PM
My dear forgetful friends, I give you the influencer of all musical influencers......Gunga!


http://youtu.be/UnwOE_44D9M (http://youtu.be/UnwOE_44D9M)
Too funny sir! 


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Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: love4ffc on October 15, 2014, 10:54:05 PM
I have to say I have really enjoyed these music threads the last two weeks.  I have had fun learning new artist and plugging them into my Pandora to see what mixes would come. 

For those who do not know but might enjoy, below is a link to a music TV show channel that I thoroughly enjoy.  It shows everything from documentaries to worldwide concerts with a wide range of music taste.  This has become one of my favorite TV channels. 

http://www.palladia.tv/schedule.php



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Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: Harold Shand on October 16, 2014, 09:57:22 AM
Kraftwerk
Roxy Music
Can
Talking Heads
Leonard Cohen
and of course "The God like genius" of Scott Walker
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: WhiteJC on October 16, 2014, 03:03:20 PM
Todd Rundgren
Walt Becker & Donald Fagen (Steely Dan)
Lennon & McCartney
Pete Townsend
Peter Green (the original Fleetwood Mac)
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: ron on October 16, 2014, 08:13:38 PM
I'd suggest Chuck Berry, and all these old timers like Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf  for what used to be "R&B" underpinning popular music...tho' R&B is now referring to a manufactured female kind of product.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: ron on October 16, 2014, 08:16:05 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on October 16, 2014, 09:57:22 AM
Kraftwerk
Roxy Music
Can
Talking Heads
Leonard Cohen
and of course "The God like genius" of Scott Walker


Most of the people that Leonard Cohen influenced finished up in the mortuary, victims of depression....stick on "The Sisters of Mercy" and pass the gin please......
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: Forever Fulham on October 16, 2014, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: ron on October 16, 2014, 08:16:05 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on October 16, 2014, 09:57:22 AM
Kraftwerk
Roxy Music
Can
Talking Heads
Leonard Cohen
and of course "The God like genius" of Scott Walker


Most of the people that Leonard Cohen influenced finished up in the mortuary, victims of depression....stick on "The Sisters of Mercy" and pass the gin please......
A poor man's Dylan, I think.  Never saw the appeal.  As for Canadians, Joni Mitchell and Bruce Cockburn were more influential. So was Gordon Lightfoot.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: Harold Shand on October 17, 2014, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: Forever Fulham on October 16, 2014, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: ron on October 16, 2014, 08:16:05 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on October 16, 2014, 09:57:22 AM
Kraftwerk
Roxy Music
Can
Talking Heads
Leonard Cohen
and of course "The God like genius" of Scott Walker


Most of the people that Leonard Cohen influenced finished up in the mortuary, victims of depression....stick on "The Sisters of Mercy" and pass the gin please......
A poor man's Dylan, I think.  Never saw the appeal.  As for Canadians, Joni Mitchell and Bruce Cockburn were more influential. So was Gordon Lightfoot.

Only The Beatles & Dylan have had their songs covered by more artists than Cohen.

He is the most wittiest, funniest and clever lyricist I've ever heard.
But then that's covering his whole body of work, not just his sixties output.

You might not like him, but to claim he is less influential than Gordon Lighfoot (and i like him) is preposterous.
The sisters of mercy.....funny to use that example when there is a band who took that name in homage to him.

People as diverse as Terry Hall, Ian McCulloch, Trent Reznor, U2 & Guy Garvey are all massive fans of the great mans work.

And as for Canadians Neil Young not worth a mention ?
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: Forever Fulham on October 17, 2014, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on October 17, 2014, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: Forever Fulham on October 16, 2014, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: ron on October 16, 2014, 08:16:05 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on October 16, 2014, 09:57:22 AM
Kraftwerk
Roxy Music
Can
Talking Heads
Leonard Cohen
and of course "The God like genius" of Scott Walker


Most of the people that Leonard Cohen influenced finished up in the mortuary, victims of depression....stick on "The Sisters of Mercy" and pass the gin please......
A poor man's Dylan, I think.  Never saw the appeal.  As for Canadians, Joni Mitchell and Bruce Cockburn were more influential. So was Gordon Lightfoot.

Only The Beatles & Dylan have had their songs covered by more artists than Cohen.

He is the most wittiest, funniest and clever lyricist I've ever heard.
But then that's covering his whole body of work, not just his sixties output.

You might not like him, but to claim he is less influential than Gordon Lighfoot (and i like him) is preposterous.
The sisters of mercy.....funny to use that example when there is a band who took that name in homage to him.

People as diverse as Terry Hall, Ian McCulloch, Trent Reznor, U2 & Guy Garvey are all massive fans of the great mans work.

And as for Canadians Neil Young not worth a mention ?
I devoted earlier thread discussion to Young, one of my three most favorite music artists.  I don't have hard facts at my disposal to back me up in my disagreement with your assessment of Leonard Cohen.  So, I'll take it on faith that he has a large fan base.  And that astonishes me.  His singing is like a dirge, flat, monotone delivery.  It gets old and inaccessible after the first song in any album of his.  I like Bird on a Wire, but only as a poem, not as a song.  I like the Berlin song, but again, only for its written structure. As music, it is horrible to listen to.  Inaccessible.  When you listen to Bob Dylan's music, the artist is equally gifted in both wordsmith and performance.  Each song is musically styled, delivered, in a unique way.  Some songs are a kind of singing rap, with great attention paid to the manner of delivery, each so different from the next.  I don't get that from Cohen's work.  But that's what makes a horse race, I guess.  Different opinions. 
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: TonyGilroy on October 17, 2014, 05:02:57 PM

Cohen's importance is unarguable.

It's not compulsory to like him.
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: HatterDon on October 17, 2014, 05:39:55 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on October 17, 2014, 05:02:57 PM

Cohen's importance is unarguable.

It's not compulsory to like him.

exactly
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: aconnecticutyankee on October 17, 2014, 06:14:36 PM
In no particular order..

Elvis
Chuck Berry
Jerry Lee Lewis
Little Richard
Bo Diddley
Muddy Waters
Carl Perkins
Fats Domino
James Brown
Bob Dylan
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: CorkedHat on October 18, 2014, 12:15:23 AM
Quote from: Forever Fulham on October 17, 2014, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on October 17, 2014, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: Forever Fulham on October 16, 2014, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: ron on October 16, 2014, 08:16:05 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on October 16, 2014, 09:57:22 AM
Kraftwerk
Roxy Music
Can
Talking Heads
Leonard Cohen
and of course "The God like genius" of Scott Walker


Most of the people that Leonard Cohen influenced finished up in the mortuary, victims of depression....stick on "The Sisters of Mercy" and pass the gin please......
A poor man's Dylan, I think.  Never saw the appeal.  As for Canadians, Joni Mitchell and Bruce Cockburn were more influential. So was Gordon Lightfoot.

Only The Beatles & Dylan have had their songs covered by more artists than Cohen.

He is the most wittiest, funniest and clever lyricist I've ever heard.
But then that's covering his whole body of work, not just his sixties output.

You might not like him, but to claim he is less influential than Gordon Lighfoot (and i like him) is preposterous.
The sisters of mercy.....funny to use that example when there is a band who took that name in homage to him.

People as diverse as Terry Hall, Ian McCulloch, Trent Reznor, U2 & Guy Garvey are all massive fans of the great mans work.

And as for Canadians Neil Young not worth a mention ?
I devoted earlier thread discussion to Young, one of my three most favorite music artists.  I don't have hard facts at my disposal to back me up in my disagreement with your assessment of Leonard Cohen.  So, I'll take it on faith that he has a large fan base.  And that astonishes me.  His singing is like a dirge, flat, monotone delivery.  It gets old and inaccessible after the first song in any album of his.  I like Bird on a Wire, but only as a poem, not as a song.  I like the Berlin song, but again, only for its written structure. As music, it is horrible to listen to.  Inaccessible.  When you listen to Bob Dylan's music, the artist is equally gifted in both wordsmith and performance.  Each song is musically styled, delivered, in a unique way.  Some songs are a kind of singing rap, with great attention paid to the manner of delivery, each so different from the next.  I don't get that from Cohen's work.  But that's what makes a horse race, I guess.  Different opinions. 
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Talking about Canadians and Cohen. I absolutely love KD Lang's version of Hallelujah
Title: Re: Musicians who have influenced other musicians
Post by: LBNo11 on October 18, 2014, 10:55:57 AM
...no mention of Buddy Holly..?