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Title: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: NJFulham on November 10, 2014, 04:08:09 PM
No Omar either.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: NJFulham on November 10, 2014, 04:09:50 PM
25*
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: Mince n Tatties on November 10, 2014, 04:15:20 PM
Past his sell by im afraid...Happens to them all.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on November 10, 2014, 04:38:20 PM
I doubt that it's form related. He's playing fine as far as I know.

However, his age, status within the US roster and the fact that his team is still in contention for MLS Cup ( Seattle has a playoff game tonight vs Dallas ), likely is the largest factor.

Deandre Yedlin from the Sounders is of course included, but he's a young one and not fully established in the National Team.

Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: btings on November 10, 2014, 05:28:12 PM
US Soccer's selection statement notes that Chris Wondolowski (who was called up) was training with Fulham last week.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster (http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster)

This probably doesn't mean anything other than that Wondo needed a place to train (his season's over).
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: Berserker on November 10, 2014, 05:52:35 PM
Shame I was hoping to see him Friday. Never mind I'll just make do with Jurgen
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: YankeeJim on November 10, 2014, 08:10:13 PM
US Soccer's selection statement notes that Chris Wondolowski (who was called up) was training with Fulham last week.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster (http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster)

This probably doesn't mean anything other than that Wondo needed a place to train (his season's over).


Lets hope that he just needed a place to train. He has a big heart but little talent. Imagine a smaller EJ with less pace.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: HatterDon on November 10, 2014, 08:22:33 PM
Past his sell by im afraid...Happens to them all.

You guys are a laugh.

He's not in the squad because he's fighting for his third team trophy THIS SEASON.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: YankeeJim on November 10, 2014, 08:25:28 PM
Past his sell by im afraid...Happens to them all.

You guys are a laugh.

He's not in the squad because he's fighting for his third team trophy THIS SEASON.



Give it up Don. Being the most prolific scorer in Fulham's top flight life isn't and will never be enough for some.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: tslyon on November 10, 2014, 08:27:41 PM
Past his sell by im afraid...Happens to them all.

You guys are a laugh.

He's not in the squad because he's fighting for his third team trophy THIS SEASON.



Give it up Don. Being the most prolific scorer in Fulham's top flight life isn't and will never be enough for some.

Too true!
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: MisfitKid on November 10, 2014, 08:40:25 PM
US Soccer's selection statement notes that Chris Wondolowski (who was called up) was training with Fulham last week.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster (http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster)

This probably doesn't mean anything other than that Wondo needed a place to train (his season's over).


Lets hope that he just needed a place to train. He has a big heart but little talent. Imagine a smaller EJ with less pace.

Jim, I am going to assume you don't watch much of the MLS, so I'll excuse your ignorance.  I watch every one of Wondo's games and "little" is a bit harsh, I wish I had that little talent...

Goals: 2010 (18), 2011 (16), 2012 (27), 2013 (11) and 2014 (13)
Golden Boot: 2010 & 2012
League MVP: 2012

Even with his "whiff" at the WC, he stood up and took it like a man and made no excuse.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: love4ffc on November 10, 2014, 08:52:47 PM
Not surprised but I still plan on watching it. 


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Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: Forever Fulham on November 10, 2014, 09:07:15 PM
US Soccer's selection statement notes that Chris Wondolowski (who was called up) was training with Fulham last week.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster (http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster)

This probably doesn't mean anything other than that Wondo needed a place to train (his season's over).


Lets hope that he just needed a place to train. He has a big heart but little talent. Imagine a smaller EJ with less pace.

Jim, I am going to assume you don't watch much of the MLS, so I'll excuse your ignorance.  I watch every one of Wondo's games and "little" is a bit harsh, I wish I had that little talent...

Goals: 2010 (18), 2011 (16), 2012 (27), 2013 (11) and 2014 (13)
Golden Boot: 2010 & 2012
League MVP: 2012

Even with his "whiff" at the WC, he stood up and took it like a man and made no excuse.
:plus one:  He's a natural finisher.  I'd take him in a heartbeat. 
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: btings on November 10, 2014, 09:26:34 PM
I've watched almost every minute Wondo has played in the last 3 years.  He's not an incredibly technical player, even by MLS standards.  He's got very good off-the-ball movement, and superb balance and agility -- he ends up in the right place at the right time, and is always ready to strike.  He also scores more with his head than you'd expect.

He really create much with the ball at his feet, but he can hold up a bit.  He also has an enormous work ethic and is probably a pretty good influence on younger kids.  Unlike some, I don't think he'd expect to get that many minutes, since nobody has ever really considered him a serious candidate for playing in Europe.

I would be surprised if he started for us, but I think he'd be valuable on the bench.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on November 10, 2014, 09:59:23 PM
US Soccer's selection statement notes that Chris Wondolowski (who was called up) was training with Fulham last week.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster (http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster)

This probably doesn't mean anything other than that Wondo needed a place to train (his season's over).


Lets hope that he just needed a place to train. He has a big heart but little talent. Imagine a smaller EJ with less pace.

Jim. Come on now. Wondo is a poachers poacher. It's a huge talent that has made careers for many. You don't need him to be the fastest. You need him to be around the goal when the ball is put in. That's is.

Not saying he would be a good signing for us or not but, to say he lacks talent is wrong. He's a natural finisher and absolutely knows where to be in and around the penalty area.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: YankeeJim on November 10, 2014, 10:19:19 PM
Looks as if I riled the MLS crowd. I can't get "the wiff" against Belgium off my mind. Too be honest, I have mostly only seen him at the National level and he just seems he is out of his depth against the better teams. Fulham can't afford the luxury of a player who just stands around the opponents box and waits for service. As prime example, I offer you Berbatov. Sure, Wondo runs his butt off but he wouldn't outrun center backs in the Championship much less the Prem. Besides, if Dempsey couldn't make some on here happy, what on earth would they say about Wondo?
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: Snibbo on November 10, 2014, 10:45:52 PM
Looks as if I riled the MLS crowd. I can't get "the wiff" against Belgium off my mind. Too be honest, I have mostly only seen him at the National level and he just seems he is out of his depth against the better teams. Fulham can't afford the luxury of a player who just stands around the opponents box and waits for service. As prime example, I offer you Berbatov. Sure, Wondo runs his butt off but he wouldn't outrun center backs in the Championship much less the Prem. Besides, if Dempsey couldn't make some on here happy, what on earth would they say about Wondo?
I think he made most people on here happy in his first spell with us but a lot of people unhappy in his second spell and also his manner of departure to Spurs.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on November 10, 2014, 10:58:47 PM
Looks as if I riled the MLS crowd. I can't get "the wiff" against Belgium off my mind. Too be honest, I have mostly only seen him at the National level and he just seems he is out of his depth against the better teams. Fulham can't afford the luxury of a player who just stands around the opponents box and waits for service. As prime example, I offer you Berbatov. Sure, Wondo runs his butt off but he wouldn't outrun center backs in the Championship much less the Prem. Besides, if Dempsey couldn't make some on here happy, what on earth would they say about Wondo?

So CBs in MLS are slower than CBs in the Championship?

He doesn't have to run faster, just smarter. Wondo is no Berbatov. Sure, nowhere near as talented but, works his socks off for the team. That'll trump talent all day long.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: YankeeJim on November 10, 2014, 11:02:23 PM
Looks as if I riled the MLS crowd. I can't get "the wiff" against Belgium off my mind. Too be honest, I have mostly only seen him at the National level and he just seems he is out of his depth against the better teams. Fulham can't afford the luxury of a player who just stands around the opponents box and waits for service. As prime example, I offer you Berbatov. Sure, Wondo runs his butt off but he wouldn't outrun center backs in the Championship much less the Prem. Besides, if Dempsey couldn't make some on here happy, what on earth would they say about Wondo?
I think he made most people on here happy in his first spell with us but a lot of people unhappy in his second spell and also his manner of departure to Spurs.

That's old news for sure. His last little stretch was a waste of time and money. It did help get him ready for the WC but Fulham got nothing out of it. As to the way he went to Spurs, he should have just said that Fulham was only a stepping stone like Dembele said and he would still be loved. Truth be told, I suspect both he & Dembele wished they had stayed.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: YankeeJim on November 10, 2014, 11:07:05 PM
Looks as if I riled the MLS crowd. I can't get "the wiff" against Belgium off my mind. Too be honest, I have mostly only seen him at the National level and he just seems he is out of his depth against the better teams. Fulham can't afford the luxury of a player who just stands around the opponents box and waits for service. As prime example, I offer you Berbatov. Sure, Wondo runs his butt off but he wouldn't outrun center backs in the Championship much less the Prem. Besides, if Dempsey couldn't make some on here happy, what on earth would they say about Wondo?

So CBs in MLS are slower than CBs in the Championship?

He doesn't have to run faster, just smarter. Wondo is no Berbatov. Sure, nowhere near as talented but, works his socks off for the team. That'll trump talent all day long.


I think this is getting to the point where we agree to disagree. Wondo is one of those guys who plays unselfishly for the team but he needs to be on the pitch a lot to show it. I don't think he'd be an impact sub. As to speed. running smart is all well and good but if your opponent is faster, he can catch back up with you after he is beaten.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: Nightwind15 on November 11, 2014, 01:01:47 AM
Wondo was a fav of mine until the miss in the Belgium World Cup match. I was gutted and while I am sure he was as well I put a lot of stock in him prior to that. 
I really would like to see him in white for a couple of years.  He works his butt of and as has been related here already.  He gets back on defense well and is a team player.  I hope he will check in for us in the near future.  By the way, I forgive him for the Belgium miss but it took a while. 
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: btings on November 11, 2014, 01:07:34 AM
I think there's zero chance he would come here for anything other than a loan.  The Quakes are rebuilding and he's basically their main draw; he's also very connected to the area (he's a Bay Area native, has a very young daughter, etc).  He's also 31, so no overseas team will put up the money that MLS would want to lose a player who is still (despite Belgium) one of their most prolific strikers.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: nevzter on November 11, 2014, 01:34:55 AM
Well, I was writing a narrative when I realized a couple of points re Wondolowski would suffice:
- He does play his rear-end off and can score like a mother#@$%^*, but I don't know how his MLS form would transfer to Fulham (I'm an Earthquakes season ticket holder for many years ongoing);  I also forgive him for the Belgium miss, geez, there's been many players more decorated than Wondo that missed such a shot
-  I don't want him at Fulham; I'd be very happy for the club if a loan was worked out, but I also am selfish and want to see him open the new stadium in San Jose
- How did this thread become about Wondo?  (and I contributed to it... 096.gig)

Also, Dempsey is rubbish.

COYW
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: Forever Fulham on November 11, 2014, 01:42:18 AM
That Belgium whiff is going to haunt that poor bastard for the rest of his life.  I know I won't forget it any time soon...
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: andersons11 on November 11, 2014, 01:48:27 AM
Shame Emerson wasn't called up. I mean its not like he's in the area or anything.
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: love4ffc on November 11, 2014, 01:57:15 AM
Shame Emerson wasn't called up. I mean its not like he's in the area or anything.
Was thinking the same thing
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: PaulUMD on November 11, 2014, 02:12:43 AM
I was really surprised Emerson didn't get the call.  Then again, nothing wrong with him working hard in training to become a regular starter at Fulham.  That's more important. 
Title: Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
Post by: btings on November 11, 2014, 05:25:45 AM
Well, I was writing a narrative when I realized a couple of points re Wondolowski would suffice:
- He does play his rear-end off and can score like a mother#@$%^*, but I don't know how his MLS form would transfer to Fulham (I'm an Earthquakes season ticket holder for many years ongoing);  I also forgive him for the Belgium miss, geez, there's been many players more decorated than Wondo that missed such a shot
-  I don't want him at Fulham; I'd be very happy for the club if a loan was worked out, but I also am selfish and want to see him open the new stadium in San Jose
- How did this thread become about Wondo?  (and I contributed to it... 096.gig)

Also, Dempsey is rubbish.

COYW

Whoah, more Quakes supporters!  Somehow I hadn't seen you before.