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Title: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: ..FOF.. on September 18, 2016, 06:32:10 AM
I'm expecting Joka to put out a highly experimental first team's midfield and attacker to the test against Bristol.

Not a B team who would end up in reserves, but an actual partnering or starting players to play most of the games.

Also, a different formation for us to morph into when the situation calls for it in the future.

Here are my hope  :005: and prediction.

(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad353/khairulism/Screen%20Shot%202016-09-18%20at%201.25.48%20PM_zpsinles5nr.png)

Parker and Jozabed to be substituted during the halftime.

If Aluko or Ayite are fit, they will start.

First team defence rested. Starting are reserves.

Your crazy experiment?

Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: H4usuallysitting on September 18, 2016, 07:29:34 AM
Parker should be at home resting......we're not going to win the cup, so no point in him being there....if he got injured we'd be going backwards
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: westcliff white on September 18, 2016, 07:49:40 AM
I am of the opposite view, think we need to get rythm in the okay o would like to see some rested  but say 7 regular players in there
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: SuffolkWhite on September 18, 2016, 10:21:25 AM
Need two up front in what ever formation is picked, possibly even three at the back and five midfield.

Button

Madl
Sigurdson
Kallas

Odie
sess
johanson
LVC
McDonald

Martin
Jozabed

Subs
Kebano
Aluko
Cairney
Malone
Woodrow

Experimental least!
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: fulhamben on September 18, 2016, 10:29:03 AM
I'd still go with the kids. They have looked fantastic in previous rounds. Why show city how easy it is to defend against us
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: J.Perkins on September 18, 2016, 11:09:41 AM
Bettinelli

Kalas Madl Ream Malone

Christensen Adeniran Tunnicliffe Edun

Piazon Woodrow
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: @jolslover on September 18, 2016, 11:25:36 AM
Don't want Bristol to suss us out as Ben says
Reserves deserve their opportunity again
Reserves are arguably looking better anyway
Team has 5 games in a fortnight so we do need to rest some
Can't afford any more injuries either

Bettinelli
Grimmer-Madl-Ream-Malone
Tunnicliffe-Adeniran
Piazon-LVC-Edun
Woodrow


Agree with this team, Except I think Grimmer is out on loan, So maybe put Kavanagh here instead of Grimmer.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: fulhamben on September 18, 2016, 11:29:24 AM
Don't want Bristol to suss us out as Ben says
Reserves deserve their opportunity again
Reserves are arguably looking better anyway
Team has 5 games in a fortnight so we do need to rest some
Can't afford any more injuries either

Bettinelli
Grimmer-Madl-Ream-Malone
Tunnicliffe-Adeniran
Piazon-LVC-Edun
Woodrow


Agree with this team, Except I think Grimmer is out on loan, So maybe put Kavanagh here instead of Grimmer.
kav isn't very good at left back let alone down the right.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: @jolslover on September 18, 2016, 11:31:40 AM
Don't want Bristol to suss us out as Ben says
Reserves deserve their opportunity again
Reserves are arguably looking better anyway
Team has 5 games in a fortnight so we do need to rest some
Can't afford any more injuries either

Bettinelli
Grimmer-Madl-Ream-Malone
Tunnicliffe-Adeniran
Piazon-LVC-Edun
Woodrow


Agree with this team, Except I think Grimmer is out on loan, So maybe put Kavanagh here instead of Grimmer.
kav isn't very good at left back let alone down the right.

Agree, I dont rate him either, Who are you putting at right back then??. Cant be Odoi or Kalas as they are going to play 5 games in 14 days. Another possible option would be to give Tunnicliffe a game at RB, I think he would suit this role.
Also just realised I forgot about Johansen, He should definitely start ahead of Adeniran in my opinion.

I would also like to see Della Torre given a run out

Bettinelli
Kavanagh-Madl-Ream-Malone
Tunnicliffe-Johansen
Piazon-LVC-Edun
Woodrow
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: MaidenheadMick on September 18, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
            Joronen
Kavanagh, Madl, Ream,Malone
Edun, Tunnicliffe, Aderinan, LVC
      Woodrow, Piazon

Don't give Bristol City any clues for the League game 3 days later
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: Carborundum on September 18, 2016, 01:20:55 PM
I hope we put out a very strong team.  Win and we are in the last sixteen.  If Bristol play a strong team and we get pulverised, then who has momentum and who is under pressure on Saturday?  I'd like to see us play a big team under lights in the next round.  There's no two-leg ties until the semi finals, we would have a decent chance.

How about

Button

Malone
Sigurdsson
Madl
Kalas

Johansen
Tunnicliffe

LVC
Kebano
Piazon

Martin
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: river phoenix on September 18, 2016, 01:25:09 PM
_______________________Bettinelli_______________________

Tunnicliffe_______Madl_______________Ream_________Malone

_____________Adeniran____________Johansen____________

______Christensen_______________________Piazon_______

______________Woodrow__________Smith_____________
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: fulhamben on September 18, 2016, 01:36:32 PM
            Joronen
Kavanagh, Madl, Ream,Malone
Edun, Tunnicliffe, Aderinan, LVC
      Woodrow, Piazon

Don't give Bristol City any clues for the League game 3 days later
you just know that this team will batter them then our so called first team will flop in front of goal again
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: RaySmith on September 18, 2016, 01:43:54 PM
Couldn't Martin do with more game time?
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: fulhamben on September 18, 2016, 01:50:47 PM
Couldn't Martin do with more game time?
Yes, but he should go into the 23s if you ask me
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: ..FOF.. on September 18, 2016, 03:27:01 PM
Martin needs to fight for his place.

Joka understood this when he gave the idea that yes the team needed more time but the situation doesn't allow it.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: J.Perkins on September 18, 2016, 04:29:26 PM
Couldn't Martin do with more game time?
Yes, but he should go into the 23s if you ask me

What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: kiwian on September 19, 2016, 04:49:41 AM
Definitely Della Torre in the squad at least, show some of the others how to run at defenders.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: hovewhite on September 19, 2016, 06:27:44 AM
I would play the team that beat Middlesbrough easy decision for me.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: MJG on September 19, 2016, 08:50:03 AM
I think he will show faith in a number of players from first two rounds. I would start a number of players who have been sub or out as well.
Its a squad game but also one where if players are not performing they should be challenged by others.

I'd go with this:

Betts
Odoi-Madl-Ream-Malone
LVC-Aderinan-Johansen-Edun
Piazon
Woodrow

Subs...Jonoran, Kalas, Sessigion, Tunnicliffe, Jozabed, Smith, Martin
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: Chutney on September 19, 2016, 09:10:22 AM
Don't want Bristol to suss us out as Ben says
Reserves deserve their opportunity again
Reserves are arguably looking better anyway
Team has 5 games in a fortnight so we do need to rest some
Can't afford any more injuries either

Bettinelli
Grimmer-Madl-Ream-Malone
Tunnicliffe-Adeniran
Piazon-LVC-Edun
Woodrow


This would be excellent, would be nice to see piazon, Grimmer is out on loan though so I'd have Kalas RB or possibly even sheckleford?
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: Chutney on September 19, 2016, 09:12:01 AM
Couldn't Martin do with more game time?
Yes, but he should go into the 23s if you ask me

Agreed, he needs games and to be taught to play our style (to work harder to put it bluntly), we can't afford for him to learn in league games.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: ScalleysDad on September 19, 2016, 09:29:28 AM
Tunnicliffe in the last line of defence is a scary thought. I am not a phycologist but Cairney in the No.10 role pulling the strings with pace ahead of him and a robust defence behind might kick start his game. Usually a player so consistently poor of late would feel my boot on his backside but apparently he is supposed to be the fulcrum which he will never be playing wide and his confidence looks shot. If it works we get a key player back, confidence is worth a couple of miles on the pitch for Saturday, but if it does'nt drag him off and drop him for Saturday as according to recent performances he will not be missed. Not a massive fan of golden balls but needs must and all that.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: MJG on September 19, 2016, 09:34:45 AM
Couldn't Martin do with more game time?
Yes, but he should go into the 23s if you ask me

Agreed, he needs games and to be taught to play our style (to work harder to put it bluntly), we can't afford for him to learn in league games.
The days of players at any team dropping to the 'reserves' to find form are long gone.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: RaySmith on September 19, 2016, 09:36:19 AM
Players who have performed well in the previous rounds, such Betts, Adeniran, LVC - where's he gone -, Edun and Ream definitely deserve a start.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: fulhamben on September 19, 2016, 09:42:03 AM
Couldn't Martin do with more game time?
Yes, but he should go into the 23s if you ask me

Agreed, he needs games and to be taught to play our style (to work harder to put it bluntly), we can't afford for him to learn in league games.
The days of players at any team dropping to the 'reserves' to find form are long gone.
which really defies the logic of needing a big squad, if you just pick them in blind faith that it will be alright on the night
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: MJG on September 19, 2016, 09:49:27 AM
Couldn't Martin do with more game time?
Yes, but he should go into the 23s if you ask me

Agreed, he needs games and to be taught to play our style (to work harder to put it bluntly), we can't afford for him to learn in league games.
The days of players at any team dropping to the 'reserves' to find form are long gone.
which really defies the logic of needing a big squad, if you just pick them in blind faith that it will be alright on the night
Tell that to pretty much every team in the land now.
But then even fans pick the same players over and over again based on 'hes the best player we have' and then as soon as someone says drop him 'you must be mad hes the best player' even if his form has been shite
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: filham on September 19, 2016, 10:06:37 AM
The players likely to play on Saturday must not play on Wednesday, we need them to be fully fit for the Championship match and we musn't give Bristol a taste of their abilities.

However , we do need to look at different options for attacking players and therefore Woodrow, De la Torre and Humphrys should be given game time.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: ..FOF.. on September 20, 2016, 02:10:40 AM
Ok, here is an update based on a so called "popular placement" in this thread..... plus a bit of my own bias :P

______________Bettinelli_____________

Kavanagh___Madl_____Ream_____Malone

LVC______Tunni____Johansen_____Edun

_____Woodrow__________Piazon______
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: Riversider on September 20, 2016, 07:50:08 AM
Perfect opportunity on Wednesday to give another formation a try , 4-2-3-1 doesn't look like providing the cutting edge we need, Barcelona and Real Madrid like to go with 4-3-3 , or how about 4-5-2 ,
Anything but Martin or Smith up front by them self.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: AnEssexFan on September 20, 2016, 07:53:05 AM
With games coming quick and fast, and with the way the "reserves" played against Boro in the previous round I would expect something like this"

                     Joronen
Kavanagh, Madl, Ream,Malone
         Tunnicliffe, Aderina
 Edun              LVC            Piazon
                   Woodrow
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: Chutney on September 20, 2016, 08:26:31 AM
is Kavanagh out on loan?
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: MJG on September 20, 2016, 09:16:38 AM
is Kavanagh out on loan?
no
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: Wolf on September 20, 2016, 10:14:59 AM
Perfect opportunity on Wednesday to give another formation a try , 4-2-3-1 doesn't look like providing the cutting edge we need, Barcelona and Real Madrid like to go with 4-3-3 , or how about 4-5-2 ,
Anything but Martin or Smith up front by them self.

Yes to 4-5-2; the outfield players would be giving 110%
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: ..FOF.. on September 20, 2016, 01:35:22 PM
Perfect opportunity on Wednesday to give another formation a try , 4-2-3-1 doesn't look like providing the cutting edge we need, Barcelona and Real Madrid like to go with 4-3-3 , or how about 4-5-2 ,
Anything but Martin or Smith up front by them self.

Yes to 4-5-2; the outfield players would be giving 110%

Sessegnon would fit in a 4 5 2 tactic.

He is like a defender who happens to be a forward who happens to be defending.
Title: Re: Experimental 1st Team This Wednesday
Post by: AnEssexFan on September 20, 2016, 02:22:13 PM
4-5-2 would be different, I mean, will it be rush goalie or just not have one at all? ;-)