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Title: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: Mince n Tatties on November 06, 2016, 01:13:20 PM
I suppose it will be down to who the manager brings in,some I should think like Woodrow would want a move(loan) just to get a game somewhere.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: filham on November 06, 2016, 01:41:17 PM
Essential we keep our best players , we really need to develop a steady first team without continual changes.
I guess the big risk in the next window is some club coming in with an attractive bid for Cairney. Jocanovic should start building a protective wall around him right now.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: Lighthouse on November 06, 2016, 02:14:03 PM
The problem is we really are in need of a player or two up front and Joka has already says he doesn't want to send players out on loan as the whole squad will need to be used. It will be interesting if the club can keep the squad settled after the next January window.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: Statto on November 06, 2016, 02:24:40 PM
LVC hasn't started a game for us all season has he? He needs and deserves to be playing. As others have said I think he could provide excellent backup in the role Johansen has recently taken up, but if Joka doesn't intend to use him at least a little, then I'd like to see him loaned out
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on November 06, 2016, 02:30:48 PM
Think we are in need of another striker and at least one winger. It's likely that Aluko is off to Cup of Nations, assuming he maintains his current form. And, if Ayite finds his quickly, he'd be off as well.

Also think that Slavisa will have changed his mind about loaning players by January....if he can get reinforcements signed. Cauley, for instance, merits more than U23's. Should be out to a struggling Champs or top League 1 side.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on November 06, 2016, 02:33:33 PM
LVC hasn't started a game for us all season has he? He needs and deserves to be playing. As others have said I think he could provide excellent backup in the role Johansen has recently taken up, but if Joka doesn't intend to use him at least a little, then I'd like to see him loaned out

Agreed. Wholeheartedly. I do think that if Slavisa can get a settled 11 grinding out consistent results, it'll be easier for him to begin to use LVC to spell Johansen late in games.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: H4usuallysitting on November 06, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
I'll tell you what - we don't need a left back.........would love Defoe to come in to the team, the amount of chances we make - he'd have a field day
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: Jims Dentist on November 06, 2016, 06:27:40 PM
Is Plazon's current loan only until January?

Woodrow needs to move to get some games.

Hope we revive the interest in Ben Marshall at Blackburn (their young striker Gallagher looks like a future star).
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: Mince n Tatties on November 06, 2016, 06:34:23 PM
Is Plazon's current loan only until January?

Woodrow needs to move to get some games.

Hope we revive the interest in Ben Marshall at Blackburn (their young striker Gallagher looks like a future star).

Gallagher on loan from Southampton.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: Jims Dentist on November 06, 2016, 06:41:15 PM
OK, thanks for that MnT, out of our reach then!
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: Mince n Tatties on November 06, 2016, 06:43:57 PM
OK, thanks for that MnT, out of our reach then!

Agree he does look good.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: fulhamben on November 06, 2016, 06:46:35 PM
Think we are in need of another striker and at least one winger. It's likely that Aluko is off to Cup of Nations, assuming he maintains his current form. And, if Ayite finds his quickly, he'd be off as well.

Also think that Slavisa will have changed his mind about loaning players by January....if he can get reinforcements signed. Cauley, for instance, merits more than U23's. Should be out to a struggling Champs or top League 1 side.
i can safely say 100% that Aluko will not being going to the ANC as Nigeria didn't qualify. Ayite and Kebano will more than likely go though
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: AnEssexFan on November 06, 2016, 08:33:05 PM
I'm wondering if Betts will head out in January?  He didn't even get a game in the EFL Cup matches, and I would think Woodrow will head out as well.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: fulhamben on November 06, 2016, 09:51:56 PM
I'm wondering if Betts will head out in January?  He didn't even get a game in the EFL Cup matches, and I would think Woodrow will head out as well.
it would be madness yo loan Betts out. I was keeping an eye on button Saturday, and I thought to myself, that he has turned a corner and was getting rid of it quickly. Yes ok more than a few kicks were going straight to touch, but that can't hurt us and he was having a great game. Then boom, for the umpteenth time this season our keeper goes and gets tackled, and we were extremely lucky not to concede from the resulting corner. Think fredericks noded it away from a certain Equalizer. Anyway point being, Button makes at least one mistake in every single game, don't always cost us, but the mistakes are there none the less.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: AlexW132 on November 06, 2016, 10:09:30 PM
I very much doubt Cairney will leave. He's much more loyal than both Ross and Moussa were, and we managed to persuade both of them to stay last January
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: aussierod on November 07, 2016, 05:21:48 AM
I would think someone like Tunnicliffe would be angling for a move come January. With such a strong midfield in front of him, it looks unlikely that he's going to get much game time here and I dare say that he probably needs a change of scenery considering how things have worked out for him here.

If we sign Martin permanently and at least one other striker in Jan, Cauley or Smith should probably be sold.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: RaySmith on November 07, 2016, 05:40:25 AM
Feel sorry for those like him and LVC, now left out it seems, but I'm sure we'll suffer injuries and suspensions, so need a big squad. But maybe  some  would benefit from going on loan.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: MJG on November 07, 2016, 07:45:00 AM
IF we are in a good position come January in one way I'd rather no one left and we brought players in.
I'd not want to be short or looking back on January saying we should have kept him because of an injury or two.
All hands on deck from Jan to May for me.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: grandad on November 07, 2016, 10:27:04 AM
We have done all our selling. We are bound to have a few players on short bans for 5 yellows & there is no guarantee that one or two might not get reds. Players like Malone, Johansen, Aluko & McDonald who run their socks off will have to be rested at some stage to keep them fresh for the end of season big push. ACN absentees & possible injuries mean we need all our squad.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: J.Perkins on November 07, 2016, 11:01:02 AM
Nigeria didn't qualify for ACON, so Aluko will be staying put. Ayite and Kebano will most likely be off though.

Regards to departures, Betts and LVC I can see being permanent departures. Woodrow possibly on loan, but as long as a more competent back up is brought in.

Another possibility could be Jozabed and Kebano. Neither feature enough for us, and could benefit with a loan. Only to an English team mind.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: AnEssexFan on November 07, 2016, 11:32:40 AM
Kavanagh?
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: Snibbo on November 07, 2016, 12:05:07 PM
Certainly wouldn't want to see Tunni nor LVC going anywhere.  Very valuable squad players  at the very least
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: MJG on November 07, 2016, 12:31:27 PM
Given our formation and players we have, I dont think Jozabed or even LVC will be going anywhere

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Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on November 07, 2016, 12:31:44 PM
Think we are in need of another striker and at least one winger. It's likely that Aluko is off to Cup of Nations, assuming he maintains his current form. And, if Ayite finds his quickly, he'd be off as well.

Also think that Slavisa will have changed his mind about loaning players by January....if he can get reinforcements signed. Cauley, for instance, merits more than U23's. Should be out to a struggling Champs or top League 1 side.
i can safely say 100% that Aluko will not being going to the ANC as Nigeria didn't qualify. Ayite and Kebano will more than likely go though

Obviously, I don't follow ACN closely but, wow! How does Nigeria fail to qualify? I would think of them as one of the traditional powers on the continent but, I guess there are many strong sides there now that I'm considering it.

Good news though. He's probably the most important of the three to our success currently. Still would like to have an extra winger and forward though.
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on November 07, 2016, 12:34:30 PM
As I believe the current loan system only allows loans from window to window (I'm sure someone will put me right) its risky to allow someone like Betts, Tunnicliffe  or LVC to go out on loan if you can't get them back in an injury crisis.

As tempting as it may be to give squad players competitive playing time by loaning them out, its tricky business.

More likely to let the likes of Adeniran, de a Torre and Smile go out to gain experience.

Piazon is only here till Jan and depending on what happens with him may determine what happens with Woodrow et al.

Only if we bring in a quality CF can we consider moving Smith on
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: FPT on November 07, 2016, 12:35:17 PM
I would very much like Cauley Woodrow to go out on loan. He's so desperate for consistent football. Get him out on loan for the rest of the season and bring in another striker. Lasse Vigen Christensen (one of my favourite players at the club) is definitely much better on loan playing than simply travelling and now contributing to the under 21s. He needs a run of games and it definitely feels like he needs a confidence booster.

I would try to move Matt Smith somewhere. Whether that's a sale, a loan with an option to buy or as bait in a part-exchange. With Chris Martin now hitting the ground running, we have our 'big man' and could use that money, squad space and/or wage space to sign a better quality striker who can give us another option.

I don't think we have much to fear with Neeskens Kebano going to the African Cup of Nations, he might as well be there now and we're fine. I do feel Jozabed will find his way at Fulham eventually; clearly very good technically but probably struggling to settle. It happens, he's left Spain to play for the first time in his career, he admitted his English isn't very good soon after joining and he's settling in a new country with a new style of football. We just have to give him time; this takes me back to Huw Jennings talking about foreign recruits to the academy, he (and the club) essentially lets them have a six month settling period: "With international players, we really don't make an assessment for the first six months of the youth international players. Let them come into the environment, work it out for yourself with our support and after six months we'll start to look at what's next."
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: fulhamben on November 07, 2016, 05:44:04 PM
Think we are in need of another striker and at least one winger. It's likely that Aluko is off to Cup of Nations, assuming he maintains his current form. And, if Ayite finds his quickly, he'd be off as well.

Also think that Slavisa will have changed his mind about loaning players by January....if he can get reinforcements signed. Cauley, for instance, merits more than U23's. Should be out to a struggling Champs or top League 1 side.
i can safely say 100% that Aluko will not being going to the ANC as Nigeria didn't qualify. Ayite and Kebano will more than likely go though

Obviously, I don't follow ACN closely but, wow! How does Nigeria fail to qualify? I would think of them as one of the traditional powers on the continent but, I guess there are many strong sides there now that I'm considering it.

Good news though. He's probably the most important of the three to our success currently. Still would like to have an extra winger and forward though.
i don't follow it either,but when we signed 3 African players I just had a quick look. As to Nigeria, they was in a group with Chad. And for some reason they pulled out after it had started meaning all results involving them were null and void. It also meant that no one in that group could be allowed to go through as second place runners up. A bit harsh I on the rest of the teams. Nigeria finished 2nd 5 points off the leaders, and even if they had of beat Chad twice, I'm not sure 11 points would have been enough as it was top 4 runners up that went through. Their loss is certainly our gain in this instance though
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: Statto on November 07, 2016, 07:06:57 PM
Given our formation and players we have, I dont think Jozabed or even LVC will be going anywhere

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that's a bit misleading because it suggests every player can only play one position. LVC is in the second column but he's far from second choice for any starting position at the moment. in fact looking at the list by my calculations i think you'd need 6 midfielders injured/suspended before starting LVC and that's assuming he's ahead of adeniran, edun and de la torre in joka's eyes which isn't a foregone conclusion either
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: St. Andrews White on November 07, 2016, 08:22:14 PM
I'd be shocked if we didn't send a few of the younger players off on loan; Adeniran and Woodrow look certainties to me. Kavanagh looks like he'll be sold or released, he hasn't a hope of getting near the team at either LB or LM
Title: Re: Who Will Move On In January? ( If Any)
Post by: YoungsBitter on November 07, 2016, 08:59:11 PM
I'd be shocked if we didn't send a few of the younger players off on loan; Adeniran and Woodrow look certainties to me. Kavanagh looks like he'll be sold or released, he hasn't a hope of getting near the team at either LB or LM
Agree on both of those, Woodrow needs game time to decide what kind of striker he wants to be. Humphries adds more interesting depth and frankly believe we will sign another forward anyway. LVC does not seem to float Joca's boat so maybe he gets a loan too.