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Title: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on November 23, 2016, 01:28:27 PM
3 votes each because there's so many. Did my best with a little help to include all captains/vice captains who wore the armband quite a lot from the 50s onwards.

Non members can also vote.

This poll was an idea from sunburywhite. Hopefully it gets a good debate going.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: snarks on November 23, 2016, 02:38:34 PM
Murphy is one of my 3 purely because he was captain for the europa league run. If it weren't for that then my third choice would have gone elsewhere. How much of the run was down to him rather than Roy I'm not sure, but the fact he was captain means you can't ignore it.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: General on November 23, 2016, 04:43:55 PM
I only voted based on my age and time supporting Fulham, which in many ways seems unfair as it rules out a lot of players I haven't seen who could be better. Perhaps it'd be best to have a favourite captain per 10 years and then vote out of those. Just feel it may give a more accurate reflection over a potential bias to be more recent captains because that's the generation who are probably more internet savvy and will engage more. Plus they're more recent memories to draw upon.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: Burt on November 23, 2016, 05:11:32 PM
Went with Murph, Roger Brown and Chris Coleman.

Long hard think about Hangeland, but in the end had to split out his contributions during his time here (impressive) from whether he was an effective leader (less impressive).
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: Fulham Tup North on November 23, 2016, 06:54:14 PM
I had to go for Mr Haynes (of Course), Danny Murphy and McBride.  I would have had Simon Morgan, but he still owes me £75 (+interest) so he misses out!!
COYW
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: HillingdonFFC on November 23, 2016, 07:51:31 PM
Went with Murph, Roger Brown and Chris Coleman.

Long hard think about Hangeland, but in the end had to split out his contributions during his time here (impressive) from whether he was an effective leader (less impressive).


Went the same, Murphy was a class act and love how my childhood hero Roger Brown has got a few votes too
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: ron on November 23, 2016, 08:35:44 PM
Interesting question insofar as Johnny was a great captain in his era because he led by example, so I included him. More modern attitudes frown on public rollickings of team members, so Danny Murphy is included for his cool authority...and faultless penalty taking!......Jim Taylor went in because my grandad thought he was one of the finest players he had ever seen... And being a third generation supporter, why would I argue with the old, old man?......especially seeing in this season of remembrance, he went over the top at 0730 on July 1st 1916 on his way to Berlin from the Somme.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: Tonywa on November 23, 2016, 10:21:38 PM
Wonderful player though he was , I don't think the Maestro was a particularly effective captain. In fact, unlike cricket where the role is of vital importance, I don't think that many football captains do much more than toss the coin before the game and clap their hands a bit.  I have gone for three who undoubtedly, in their different ways were true captains, inspired the team and really made a difference.  Roger Brown, Simon Morgan and Brede Hangeland.  Danny Murphy was up there as well, but when it comes to Berbatov and McCormack - well not as captains thank you.  Jim Taylor was well before my time and I suspect would be of almost everyone else on the board.   
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on November 23, 2016, 10:58:28 PM
I thought Lee Clark was a brilliant captain and I'm surprised with 3 votes he didn't get more votes.

It probably isn't fair on the older fans but anyone who voted Haynes must have been around for everyone bar Jim Taylor and he's got a good return on this poll. So the opportunity to vote for others was there.

I voted for Cookie, Clark and Murphy. Was very tempted to pick Morgan but it was a tough call with Murphy for my third. Love ya Morgs!!!!

Coleman imo was our best captain.

And my 2 favourite players ever are Boa and Brede. 2 special players for Fulham but they were both awful captains and seemed to get worse when given the armband. 
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: chiefo on November 24, 2016, 12:10:55 AM
Brown, Morgan, Murphy. Great poll.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: mouse on November 24, 2016, 12:37:58 AM
Have put Johnny Haynes in but,although the maestro,not sure he was a great captain.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: sunburywhite on November 24, 2016, 02:42:05 PM
In fairness I think Parker has done a very good job as club captain

I seem to remember him paying off from his own pocket a £20,000 fine that Mad Magath fined some of the youngsters
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: twang on November 24, 2016, 02:59:45 PM
Easy for me: Coleman, McBride and Murphy.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: Sir Alec of good Stock on November 24, 2016, 03:16:12 PM
Alan Mullery, a real leader.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: Bill2 on November 24, 2016, 03:52:31 PM
Chris Coleman was a magnificent leader in his last season before he broke his leg.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: Kent Cassandra on November 24, 2016, 04:32:16 PM
I went for the Maestro who was very authoritive  on the field as some have criticised but having read what players say about him he was very different in the dressing room. The is why this is a difficult question because only insiders know what a captain is like off the field and I would imagine  behaviour off the field is just as important. Bobby Moore is not on the list, can't believe he was never our captain he certainly played like one and would have got my vote. Captains IMO should come from central midfield or centre back, from experience I played at centre back and you are facing play and can talk to players in front of you. So my second choice is Jim Taylor who was intelligent, in charge and very cool under pressure.
Danny Murphy must be in everyone's list, he was worth his place if he had just stood there doing nothing in the centre of the park.  Alan Mullery, Simon Morgan, Chris coleman and Scott Parker are very much in my thoughts and the mind boggles that the club would make Berbatov captain and ignore Bobby Moore.
 
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: General on November 24, 2016, 05:31:00 PM
So - now (I assume), the poll is closed and in order our best captains are..

1) Danny Murphy   108
2) Johnny Haynes   59
3) Chris Coleman    54
4) Simon Morgan    53
5) Allan Mullery       40
6) Roger Brown      23
7) Brian Mcbride      16
8) George Cohen     12
9) Brede Hangeland 11
10) Scott Parker         9
11) Lee Clarke            7
12) Luis Boa Morte      6

then all the rest have 1/2/0 votes...

Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: Peabody on November 24, 2016, 05:43:12 PM
Jim Taylor was a very good player and skip. But I think that back then the role was more of a token and less important than it is now.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on November 24, 2016, 06:15:42 PM
Haynes, Morgan and Coleman.

Haynes, due to his historic place in our history, although I only saw him post 62, he's a must.

Morgan, because there's only one Simon Morgan.

Coleman, was a leader of men.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: filham on November 24, 2016, 06:17:29 PM
Difficult choice so many good captains but first of all take out Berbatov , he was not going to win in a moth of Sundays.

The winner of course should have been Haynes by a country mile, I guess though that a lot of those voting never saw him in action. It then becomes a close call but no one could quarrel with Simon Morgan and Brian McBride.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on November 24, 2016, 06:47:29 PM
Amazed at how low Lee Clark was. I thought he was a great leader. For me Coleman was the best, like Bill says above. He was a leader of men.

Really pleased to see Captain Morgs in the mix. After so many votes I think that's a joint third really.

Poll doesn't have a close date so it can go on as long as you like. But once Murphy got to 100 I think it became a non contest. Still amazed he is regarded that much higher than anyone else but I did vote for him myself as my 3rd choice. It would be interesting to know how many who voted for him had him as 1st choice.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: YankeeJim on November 24, 2016, 06:57:11 PM
I can only vote for those that I have seen and honestly it only goes back 12-13 years. In that time Danny was the rock our best team was built on. McBride led the team in the great escape and it was a different squad indeed, when he came back from injury. Hangers was THE rock in the Thames Barrier and the little I saw of Brown, he did manage to mug a few blokes. So, its in that order.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on November 24, 2016, 07:18:01 PM
Michael bloody Brown lol. I missed him off the list by accident..........GOOD!!!!
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: BestOfBrede on November 25, 2016, 12:54:27 PM
Michael bloody Brown lol. I missed him off the list by accident..........GOOD!!!!
Was John Collins never captain?
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: Dixie on November 25, 2016, 01:12:10 PM
I thought Lee Clark was a brilliant captain and I'm surprised with 3 votes he didn't get more votes.

It probably isn't fair on the older fans but anyone who voted Haynes must have been around for everyone bar Jim Taylor and he's got a good return on this poll. So the opportunity to vote for others was there.

I voted for Cookie, Clark and Murphy. Was very tempted to pick Morgan but it was a tough call with Murphy for my third. Love ya Morgs!!!!

Coleman imo was our best captain.

And my 2 favourite players ever are Boa and Brede. 2 special players for Fulham but they were both awful captains and seemed to get worse when given the armband. 

I had exactly the same internal debate!
I went with Cookie, Morgs and Clark in the end. Murphy was great, but just pipped by Clark

I think Cookie was our best ever captain (that i have seen), dropped down 2 divisions and was absolutely a class above anyone else in every match - a true leader and imagine how inspiring that must have been for the other Fulham players. Great times!
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on November 25, 2016, 01:44:21 PM
Michael bloody Brown lol. I missed him off the list by accident..........GOOD!!!!
Was John Collins never captain?

Maybe once or twice but nothing concrete. That promotion season was Cookie obviously with Melville taking over when he had the car crash. Melville continued as captain into the prem.

It would be like including Dan Burn and Cairney.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: Vinnieffc on November 25, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
Only been a Fulham convert since 1980 so based my votes on those I've seen. Murphy, Morgan one Cookie for me.
Title: Re: **poll** Fulham's greatest captain
Post by: NogoodBoyo on November 25, 2016, 09:06:16 PM
Even though I think Bullard was quoted as saying Coleman always turned up late for training and liked to drink (a lot), I still voted for him as the results when he was captain were miles better than under any other skipper.  I didn't bother with the second and third options as Number 1 is Number 1.
This is a results business.
Nogood "can't argue with results, see" Boyo