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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: 18stepsup on January 25, 2017, 06:49:19 AM

Title: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: 18stepsup on January 25, 2017, 06:49:19 AM
I noted reading have missed five penalties this season perhaps the penalty spot needs to be moved closer
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: toshes mate on January 25, 2017, 07:16:55 AM
I think we just need to invite Alan Shearer and Matt Le Tissier to teach Mr Martin (or whoever) how you do take them so that four out of five hit the front of the net.....
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 25, 2017, 07:19:11 AM
Well players like McCormack and Berbatov and many others do not seem to have much trouble. I would suggest that the players who are failing with their own penalty taking, have a good look at themselves, Grow a pair, and practice more.
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: Neil D on January 25, 2017, 07:43:21 AM
Birmingham 8 scored from 9, Brighton 6 from 7 don't seem to have much of a problem.
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on January 25, 2017, 07:45:31 AM
Quote from: 18stepsup on January 25, 2017, 06:49:19 AM
I noted reading have missed five penalties this season perhaps the penalty spot needs to be moved closer

I think they have missed 6 and scored 5 of these on rebound. Obviously been practicing follow ups !
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: bog on January 25, 2017, 09:11:53 AM
Jim Langley and Charlie Mitten never had any trouble.  :Haynes The Maestro:

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Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: ron on January 25, 2017, 09:57:15 AM
Quote from: bog on January 25, 2017, 09:11:53 AM
Jim Langley and Charlie Mitten never had any trouble.  :Haynes The Maestro:

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...and they were kicking a concrete block during the winter. They might have burst the net with today's plastic coated balloons....
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 10:05:57 AM
Its actually true,across Europe this season only 70℅ have been converted, while in Champions League less than half only 42℅ have gone in.
Are Goalies getting better,or have the laws made it easier for them?
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: Bassey the warrior on January 25, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
My guess is that the club scouts and video technology are part of the cause. Clubs can track where players tend to place their penalties. I imagine a lot of goalkeepers will look at this before matches.
Players need to vary where they place their penalties more.
It does help to hit it hard though as these are hard to save even if the keeper guesses right.
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: RaySmith on January 25, 2017, 10:23:15 AM
I strongly believe that now that keepers are allowed to move before the ball is kicked, when previously they were penalised for this and the kick retaken, it's much harder to score a pen, because the keepers can move in anticipation.

Someone like Berba is  always successful, because he confuses the keeper, so he moves the wrong way, then  puts the ball in the other side of the goal. But not many have the calmness and skill to take them like that.

Martin scored against Barnsley because the keeper went the wrong way, but his next two the keeper moved the right way, in anticipation, and saved them.

It used to be very unusual for a pen to be saved, but now it's fairly common.
But pro players should still be expected to score from the spot.
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on January 25, 2017, 10:31:14 AM
Goalies are getting more wise with the penalty down the middle
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: ScalleysDad on January 25, 2017, 10:55:56 AM
its a combination of things all relating to keepers. Law changes, technology, bespoke coaching, good old fashioned homework and training, training and training. Most Clubs now have a keeper(s) coach who works on everything from catching under pressure, distribution and simply stopping the ball crossing the line. You can even do a high end coaching for keepers course with the FA these days and when I did my badges keeper sessions were always part of the curriculum. The law changes are outrageously flouted sometimes but I always find it a crying shame when a good save is listed as a miss. The QPR fella saved the penalty, legs like springs, strong arm and good hands and all that, but it was classed as a miss.
Athletes certainly but I am not sure I buy into the "aren't keeper bigger these days" debate.
Title: Re: Is it getting harder to score penalties
Post by: filham on January 25, 2017, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: bog on January 25, 2017, 09:11:53 AM
Jim Langley and Charlie Mitten never had any trouble.  :Haynes The Maestro:

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No one in our history has had as much trouble as the present squad surely. The only fact that has to be addressed is that e have a squad of players incapable of hitting a good shot on goal.