Paddy Power have taken substantial bets late last night on Steve Bruce to become the next Fulham manager.
From nowhere in the betting,the firm have now installed him as 5/2 fav,pushing Moyes,Allardyce and Coleman out in the betting.
Are they making a false market,or are certain people in the know?....God help us if true.😱
Mind you,this is the same firm going 175/1 Bobby Zamora.... lol
Well if Bruce was appointed it would save me a fortune in Petrol because I would not be at the Cottage again all the time he was there! :031:
Quote from: KJS on November 09, 2018, 07:32:40 AM
Well if Bruce was appointed it would save me a fortune in Petrol because I would not be at the Cottage again all the time he was there! :031:
And my train fares.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 07:48:02 AM
Quote from: KJS on November 09, 2018, 07:32:40 AM
Well if Bruce was appointed it would save me a fortune in Petrol because I would not be at the Cottage again all the time he was there! :031:
And my train fares.
a team in his image,owing to price hikes by the club I'm done after this season with Bruce it will be a blessing!
They also had Curbishley at 100/1 :005:
What more motivation could the players possibly need than this list ?
Paddy Power chap on talkshite saying they took 2 large bets that would take out three noughts sums of money.
I should think its a punter with money to burn taking the chance on Bruce..22/1 and 14/1the bets were laid at.........
Some are saying Parker being lined up - god help us if that were true!
I'd rather Bruce over Parker. But ideally I don't want Bruce in the 1st place. Get Ranieri in. Doubt Khan will go after someone whose currently at another club.
:dft001:
Quote from: HV71 on November 09, 2018, 08:19:31 AM
What more motivation could the players possibly need than this list ?
It's OK for the players, they can get transferred out but we are stuck here :dft001:
The wife says can she have 50p on Bobby at 175/1...lol
Quote from: Dodger53 on November 09, 2018, 08:41:09 AM
Some are saying Parker being lined up - god help us if that were true!
Wouldn't mind seeing this in the long term, once he's learned how to coach have an effect on people
Bruce would be good, surely? He did OK at Wigan, Sunderland and Hull .... I think he is good at shaping and managing difficult squads in the PL.
We need a manager who is going to bang some heads together and inject some on-field discipline.
Parker would be a Rene M. style mistake.
Isn't he still moaning that Fred should have been sent off?
Quote from: Robbie on November 09, 2018, 09:37:16 AM
Bruce would be good, surely? He did OK at Wigan, Sunderland and Hull .... I think he is good at shaping and managing difficult squads in the PL.
We need a manager who is going to bang some heads together and inject some on-field discipline.
Parker would be a Rene M. style mistake.
Totally agree about Parker but definitely do not want Steve Bruce he is not the answer
If I had to choose a manager based on last couple of year's results and performances, after much deliberation, I'd choose Slavisa Jokanovic
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 08:38:17 AM
Paddy Power chap on talkshite saying they took 2 large bets that would take out three noughts sums of money.
I should think its a punter with money to burn taking the chance on Bruce..22/1 and 14/1the bets were laid at.........
Craig Kline May have placed the bet.
We could always do a Burnley and keep Joka this season and next whether we stay up or go down!? Just saying.
I want the club to do well. I really don't know enough about managers and coaches to comment. I do know that I will always support the club. But agree with the huge ticket prices fans have the right to save a bit of money if they so choose. But if our present coach cannot stop the rot. If, as many do, blame everything on the players. Then it really doesn't matter who is in charge.
But wouldn't it be good to see a Fulham side stride out against Liverpool. Put all the effort in and look like a proper team who knows what they are doing. Who cares if we fail. Let's see a bit of solid team work. Clever tactics using our strengths. Despite the rumours we do have them. Then we really wont care about new managers as Joka will stay. Otherwise any more utter confusion will get us all repeating the same things next week.
I agree Lighthouse, if we lose most games this season and go down so be it. But as long as we have given it a fair go at all levels.
Quote from: BedsFFC on November 09, 2018, 09:59:48 AM
If I had to choose a manager based on last couple of year's results and performances, after much deliberation, I'd choose Slavisa Jokanovic
I would agree if we were still in the Championship but he looks out of his depth in the top league
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 08:38:17 AM
Paddy Power chap on talkshite saying they took 2 large bets that would take out three noughts sums of money.
I should think its a punter with money to burn taking the chance on Bruce..22/1 and 14/1the bets were laid at.........
If it is two big bets it could be a insider that knows something. When betting is suspended we will know the sacking is imminent
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We have a squad of players with potential who are capable but not performing, We have a coach who also has great potential but who cannot seem at the moment to manage the team to win games. I believe there is a solution to be found and we should be patient and persevere. I agree with what lighthouse is saying that we are being beaten by worse teams than us because they are compensating for their lack of technique by working together to stop us playing and busting a gut doing it. I think changing the manager at the moment especially with the names mentioned would not get the result that we desire. Also I agree that we as fans have no insider knowledge and I have to be sceptical about rumours and people who say they are in the know. It would be great for us fans if there was more transparency but that is never going to happen.
However you look at it, it would be ironic if he took over the team that beat him in the play-off. So long as he doesn't sign that cheating little so and so.
Could we benefit with a new manager, some say it's the same group of players so what would change.
Well as we know there is clearly an issue with regards to tactics and motivations, so how would that change.
A new coach will come with different ideas, maybe play players Slavisa seems to have issues with,
Different tactics and game plans, he would also not have the problem trying to appease players from last year, (if that is an issue) a new manager would just see a squad of players in front of him, personally I think a new manager would pick who he thinks is the best set up and stick with them, not changing the team from game to game.
Unfortunately none of us have a crystal ball So have no idea on anything just opinions.
I think it is getting a bit boring now with 101 supporters suggesting team selections, new managers, none of what is said is going to make the slightest bit of difference, every thread including mine saying the same things day after day, but everyone has their right to do.
I am now of the opinion that "what will be will be".
Quote from: Holders on November 09, 2018, 12:59:37 PM
However you look at it, it would be ironic if he took over the team that beat him in the play-off. So long as he doesn't sign that cheating little so and so.
I cannot see him signing Luis Suarez.
Compare and contrast expectations from Huddersfield town fans re their team and manager to ours.
They hadn't won for 6 months? and were still right behind their manager.
We've not played a dozen games but want a new manager?
Ok 100 mill compared to their 50 mill on signings can say a lot for expectations but remember 10 mill buys you nowt special.
The mentality here seems to be we should be rubbing shoulders with the elite and the managers head should roll.
Relegation might not be too bad a thing, the payments from this season plus parachute payments next season should virtually ensure auto promotion especially if a manager is at the helm who knows how to gain promo to the premier league ie jokanovic
How many games do we realistically expect to win in the prem? No way are we gonna finish top ten or even mid table without luck shrewd transfers and a clued up manager at this level.
Plus the way we play opens us up a bit to classier teams who can pick us off almost at will.
The Bolton/Stoke model works but fans soon tire of dreary anti football.
So I say accept relegation could be a possibility, and stick with the manager and only next season, if we are struggling to return think about replacing him.
Relegation sometimes allows teams to come back stronger and more prepared and if we can resist the panic button and think more long term I reckon that would be the way forward.
Unless Khan is prepared to bankroll a new manager with another hundred plus million to stay up then I say stop panicking, lower your sights but raise your aim, raise your aim, who broke your heart, you did you did
oops sorry couldn't resist that - ABC on the radio.
Quote from: TC's Sporran on November 09, 2018, 02:24:53 PM
Compare and contrast expectations from Huddersfield town fans re their team and manager to ours.
They hadn't won for 6 months? and were still right behind their manager.
We've not played a dozen games but want a new manager?
Ok 100 mill compared to their 50 mill on signings can say a lot for expectations but remember 10 mill buys you nowt special.
The mentality here seems to be we should be rubbing shoulders with the elite and the managers head should roll.
Relegation might not be too bad a thing, the payments from this season plus parachute payments next season should virtually ensure auto promotion especially if a manager is at the helm who knows how to gain promo to the premier league ie jokanovic
How many games do we realistically expect to win in the prem? No way are we gonna finish top ten or even mid table without luck shrewd transfers and a clued up manager at this level.
Plus the way we play opens us up a bit to classier teams who can pick us off almost at will.
The Bolton/Stoke model works but fans soon tire of dreary anti football.
So I say accept relegation could be a possibility, and stick with the manager and only next season, if we are struggling to return think about replacing him.
Relegation sometimes allows teams to come back stronger and more prepared and if we can resist the panic button and think more long term I reckon that would be the way forward.
Unless Khan is prepared to bankroll a new manager with another hundred plus million to stay up then I say stop panicking, lower your sights but raise your aim, raise your aim, who broke your heart, you did you did
oops sorry couldn't resist that - ABC on the radio.
They probably arent complaining as they know their team is up against it and giving it a go and not being beaten by 3 goals every week and love the manager as he keep them up last year and have some faith in him, us on the other hand look clueless no fight no cohesion we are showing nothing the manager looks lost on the sidelines says the same thing after every defeat but we see no improvements just another roll of the dice with the back 5.
The mentality isnt we should be pushing for the top 6 the reality is we should just be competing, we look lost a rudderless ship that what people arent happy about the lack of any competitiveness by the team, the lack of organisation, the lack of seeing where the next win is going to come from. The mentality of Joka got us up so let him stand and watch us rapidly head back to the championship is the worrying mentality people would be a lot happier if we where bottom and could see some hope at the moment we cant.
And as for going down may be good what are you on about weve been down weve just come back up and now you want us to go straight back down again you are joking arent you
Moyes, Bruce and Big Sam, all have good track records and I for one would be happy with any of them. We would know what we are going to get and they would field a team that would be clear about tactics and would give 100%
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 08:51:57 AM
The wife says can she have 50p on Bobby at 175/1...lol
I'd rather put my 50p on your missus taking over than most of the names put forward on here Mince..
Quote from: Vinnieffc on November 09, 2018, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 08:51:57 AM
The wife says can she have 50p on Bobby at 175/1...lol
I'd rather put my 50p on your missus taking over than most of the names put forward on here Mince..
She'd install some discipline that's for sure,she keeps me in my place,bless her.😂
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: Vinnieffc on November 09, 2018, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 08:51:57 AM
The wife says can she have 50p on Bobby at 175/1...lol
I'd rather put my 50p on your missus taking over than most of the names put forward on here Mince..
She'd install some discipline that's for sure,she keeps me in my place,bless her.😂
Is that place you speak about, your Garden Shed, modelled on the old Shed at Stamford Bridge Mince ?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 09, 2018, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: Vinnieffc on November 09, 2018, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 08:51:57 AM
The wife says can she have 50p on Bobby at 175/1...lol
I'd rather put my 50p on your missus taking over than most of the names put forward on here Mince..
She'd install some discipline that's for sure,she keeps me in my place,bless her.😂
Is that place you speak about, your Garden Shed, modelled on the old Shed at Stamford Bridge Mince ?
It is old,I was cleaning garden tools in there the other week and found an old copy of the "News of the World", we beat Cambridge Utd on that weekend.
Shed is divided into two,with my armchair at the back,old programmes and hidden bottle of brandy(don't tell her indoors)..Sheds are great everyone should have one to escape to when your getting if in the ear.😂
Now they have the Tinkerman new fav at 12/5 with Alan Pardew 3/1 and Bruce out to 7/1...Hilarious.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 10, 2018, 07:01:20 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 09, 2018, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: Vinnieffc on November 09, 2018, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2018, 08:51:57 AM
The wife says can she have 50p on Bobby at 175/1...lol
I'd rather put my 50p on your missus taking over than most of the names put forward on here Mince..
She'd install some discipline that's for sure,she keeps me in my place,bless her.😂
Is that place you speak about, your Garden Shed, modelled on the old Shed at Stamford Bridge Mince ?
It is old,I was cleaning garden tools in there the other week and found an old copy of the "News of the World", we beat Cambridge Utd on that weekend.
Shed is divided into two,with my armchair at the back,old programmes and hidden bottle of brandy(don't tell her indoors)..Sheds are great everyone should have one to escape to when your getting if in the ear.😂
Yes I agree, it should be mandatory and compulsory for every bloke to have a Shed, I often hide in there just to avoid the wife when she won't stop nagging.
It enables me to hide all sorts of stuff in there, like my favourite Bazooka, a Flame Thrower and my Girlfriend.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 10, 2018, 07:23:17 AM
Now they have the Tinkerman new fav at 12/5 with Alan Pardew 3/1 and Bruce out to 7/1...Hilarious.
Pardew is said to be very interested :022:
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/pardew-hanging-around-craven-cottage-just-case-anyone-needs-some-management-done
And as for going down may be good what are you on about weve been down weve just come back up and now you want us to go straight back down again you are joking arent you
no of course I don't want us to go straight back down
im saying it mkight not be as bad a thing as everyone thinks?
recently Newcastle Cardiff and hull off the top of my head got relegated and went straight back up
invariably relegated premier teams are the bookies faves the next season for promotion
imagine if last season joka had had another 140 million to spend?
cant you see with the hundreds of millions, if invested properly you can come back stronger?
ive seen loads of clubs going for bust throwing money at it they can ill afford, trying to stay up and failing and then dropping like a stone in dire financial straits
ive also seen lots of clubs yo-yo
relegation doesn't have to be the end of the world and a strategy based around relegation can prove to be more successful than trigger happy short term panic appointments/buys that fail to work leaving you even deeper in the mire
btw the premier league isn't the promised land its made out to be
its a competition realistically for 3 or 4 teams with the rest just making up the numbers
who can see another Leicester in the near future?
i'd sooner see a successful season like last year every now and then (that can only happen in the championship) and put up with the sightseeing in the premier league but keep my feet firmly on the ground and not get starstruck demading heads roll should we fail to compete.
football and its fans are crazy
Ranieri getting sacked shortly after winning the league shows there is no loyalty and would be the same in my eyes as sacking Joka.
mention of the sacking and ranieri in the same post
spooky
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on November 09, 2018, 10:13:36 AM
We could always do a Burnley and keep Joka this season and next whether we stay up or go down!? Just saying.
I agree but the £100m meant that the club have to stay up and that the pressure was on! Burnley never spent that much and thus all Dyche had to do was keep them up or take them back up after relegation.
Now it's time to get behind the next manager.....
Mince what was the latest price that was available for him becoming manager before it happened?
picked the wrong Leicester manager imho
unless you have aspirations of winning the title
under nigel pearson leicester were bottom of the league for 140 days before surviving and it was largely his team that won the title the next season as he was sacked.
I think he had to go as his son and other players were caught on video being a bit naughty in the far east ...
pearson was in Belgium (bottom of the league) last time I looked.
Quote from: TC's Sporran on November 16, 2018, 10:48:54 PM
picked the wrong Leicester manager imho
unless you have aspirations of winning the title
under nigel pearson leicester were bottom of the league for 140 days before surviving and it was largely his team that won the title the next season as he was sacked.
I think he had to go as his son and other players were caught on video being a bit naughty in the far east ...
pearson was in Belgium (bottom of the league) last time I looked.
Dear God I think i'd rather Fat Sam than Mad Nigel. Yes, win percentage of 34% in his current job I believe
Quote from: Snibbo on November 17, 2018, 06:37:33 AM
Quote from: TC's Sporran on November 16, 2018, 10:48:54 PM
picked the wrong Leicester manager imho
unless you have aspirations of winning the title
under nigel pearson leicester were bottom of the league for 140 days before surviving and it was largely his team that won the title the next season as he was sacked.
I think he had to go as his son and other players were caught on video being a bit naughty in the far east ...
pearson was in Belgium (bottom of the league) last time I looked.
Dear God I think i'd rather Fat Sam than Mad Nigel. Yes, win percentage of 34% in his current job I believe
I think you may be misinterpreting the poster's implied reference to the presence of good fortune falling into an incoming manager's lap because of how things have a habit of falling ino place 'for you' at certain times. The truth is often only found through really deep research and understanding of why things may happen the way they do. To me Ranieri is another throw of the panic dice by the Khans. I hope it will work out but I would have enjoyed it more had Jokanovic still been here because I believe it would have worked out anyway. I acknowledge I am safe in saying that because no one will ever be able to prove me wrong.
Quote from: toshes mate on November 17, 2018, 09:02:25 AM
Quote from: Snibbo on November 17, 2018, 06:37:33 AM
Quote from: TC's Sporran on November 16, 2018, 10:48:54 PM
picked the wrong Leicester manager imho
unless you have aspirations of winning the title
under nigel pearson leicester were bottom of the league for 140 days before surviving and it was largely his team that won the title the next season as he was sacked.
I think he had to go as his son and other players were caught on video being a bit naughty in the far east ...
pearson was in Belgium (bottom of the league) last time I looked.
Dear God I think i'd rather Fat Sam than Mad Nigel. Yes, win percentage of 34% in his current job I believe
I think you may be misinterpreting the poster's implied reference to the presence of good fortune falling into an incoming manager's lap because of how things have a habit of falling ino place 'for you' at certain times. The truth is often only found through really deep research and understanding of why things may happen the way they do. To me Ranieri is another throw of the panic dice by the Khans. I hope it will work out but I would have enjoyed it more had Jokanovic still been here because I believe it would have worked out anyway. I acknowledge I am safe in saying that because no one will ever be able to prove me wrong.
would have preferred slav staying myself as thought he would of turned it round.i like ranieri but that's all.
Bruce might end up SOuthampton manager after we beat them next week and Hughes then gets sacked
