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Title: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: WhiteJC on December 23, 2018, 08:46:42 AM
After a clean sheet, finally, it looks as if Ranieri has come up with a formation and system that works so I'm going with more of the same. Seri had a good game, perhaps the extra cover helped? The only change I've made from the starting 11 is AK47 for Schurrle, I'm assuming that Ryan will not be fit


Rico

Odoi          Mawson          Ream

Christie          Chambers          Seri          Bryan

Cairney          AK47

Mitro

Subs: Betts, MLM, KMac, Ayite, Vietto, Schurrle
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Saturday 26/12/18
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on December 23, 2018, 08:51:48 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on December 23, 2018, 08:46:42 AM
After a clean sheet, finally, it looks as if Ranieri has come up with a formation and system that works so I'm going with more of the same. Seri had a good game, perhaps the extra cover helped? The only change I've made from the starting 11 is AK47 for Schurrle, I'm assuming that Ryan will not be fit


Rico

Odoi          Mawson          Ream

Christie          Chambers          Seri          Bryan

Cairney          AK47

Mitro

Subs: Betts, MLM, KMac, Ayite, Vietto, Schurrle

I agree, but Sessegnon will hopefully be fit, so him for Schurrle, and Kamara as an impact sub.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Saturday 26/12/18
Post by: fulhamben on December 23, 2018, 09:02:57 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on December 23, 2018, 08:51:48 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on December 23, 2018, 08:46:42 AM
After a clean sheet, finally, it looks as if Ranieri has come up with a formation and system that works so I'm going with more of the same. Seri had a good game, perhaps the extra cover helped? The only change I've made from the starting 11 is AK47 for Schurrle, I'm assuming that Ryan will not be fit


Rico

Odoi          Mawson          Ream

Christie          Chambers          Seri          Bryan

Cairney          AK47

Mitro

Subs: Betts, MLM, KMac, Ayite, Vietto, Schurrle

I agree, but Sessegnon will hopefully be fit, so him for Schurrle, and Kamara as an impact sub.
no, ak for schurrle and sess for Bryan.boom that's a title winning team right there
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Saturday 26/12/18
Post by: bobby01 on December 23, 2018, 09:04:55 AM
I agree, I don't think there is much between mlm and ream. I would take Vietto off the bench and put kebano there for some pace in the closing stages.
I think and always have with the summer recruiting that the summer buys were or a 3-5-2 system,but Slav never really had a chance to start with it due to injuries.
Also playing Wednesday.😝


:merry christmas: to everyone
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Saturday 26/12/18
Post by: Neil D on December 23, 2018, 09:06:16 AM
We would do better to field a team against Wolves on Wednesday rather than Saturday.  Also, AK for Schurrle certainly.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Saturday 26/12/18
Post by: WhiteJC on December 23, 2018, 09:12:26 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on December 23, 2018, 09:04:55 AM

Also playing Wednesday.😝


well spotted, just shows I'm not really awake yet  :dft011:
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Neil D on December 23, 2018, 09:15:42 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on December 23, 2018, 09:12:26 AM

well spotted, just shows I'm not really awake yet  :dft011:
With 53k plus posts your keyboard probably doesn't know what day of the week it is either!
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Hoppus on December 23, 2018, 09:37:26 AM
Kamara got a lot of energy, but he is a walking red card.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: filham on December 23, 2018, 10:50:54 AM
That was the most defensive line up and performance I have ever seen from a Fulham team, it was called for yesterday and was a tactical success for Ranieri . The point won was critical and kept Newcastle in the relegation zone.

However  more of the same is not going to get us the wins we now need to avoid relegation, we fielded five across the back yesterday plus Chambers, a centre back, in midfield. It will be interesting to see if Ranieri changes tactics for the next two games which are at home.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: fulhamben on December 23, 2018, 10:56:46 AM
Quote from: filham on December 23, 2018, 10:50:54 AM
That was the most defensive line up and performance I have ever seen from a Fulham team, it was called for yesterday and was a tactical success for Ranieri . The point won was critical and kept Newcastle in the relegation zone.

However  more of the same is not going to get us the wins we now need to avoid relegation, we fielded five across the back yesterday plus Chambers, a centre back, in midfield. It will be interesting to see if Ranieri changes tactics for the next two games which are at home.
wolves are far better than Newcastle, plus with our mini goal drought, I think it would be suicidal to abandon a defensive line up. It just needs a little tweaking imo. Like I said above, swap out Bryan for sessegnion and swap out schurrle for ak. Those two changes would make us far superior in attack and more solid at the back. It's a no brainer imo.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on December 23, 2018, 10:59:44 AM
If we wish to give ourselves the best chance to achieve another clean sheet, keep the same formation with the exception of Schurrie. We still created chances. A clean sheet means we only need to score once.
Being at home makes hardly any difference, we are not good enough to throw caution to the wind.
Stability and consistency is paramount, injuries permitting, although the one exception, the lazy Schurrie needs a dam good thrashing to shake him out of his apathy. He let his team mates down again yesterday, until he went off, Fulham were playing one man shy.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: @jolslover on December 23, 2018, 11:19:39 AM
Same team from Newcastle game but with Sess in for Bryan
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: hovewhite on December 23, 2018, 11:21:29 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 23, 2018, 10:56:46 AM
Quote from: filham on December 23, 2018, 10:50:54 AM
That was the most defensive line up and performance I have ever seen from a Fulham team, it was called for yesterday and was a tactical success for Ranieri . The point won was critical and kept Newcastle in the relegation zone.

However  more of the same is not going to get us the wins we now need to avoid relegation, we fielded five across the back yesterday plus Chambers, a centre back, in midfield. It will be interesting to see if Ranieri changes tactics for the next two games which are at home.
wolves are far better than Newcastle, plus with our mini goal drought, I think it would be suicidal to abandon a defensive line up. It just needs a little tweaking imo. Like I said above, swap out Bryan for sessegnion and swap out schurrle for ak. Those two changes would make us far superior in attack and more solid at the back. It's a no brainer imo.
tend to agree as must be a back 5 every game now.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: DevonFFC on December 23, 2018, 11:22:07 AM
Whilst our defence is not capable of keeping a clean sheet playing A flat back 4 I think we should stick to what worked against Newcastle. If and when we buy some players who hopefully will sure up the defence then we can look to attack again.

Wolves are a very attack minded team and if we try to go toe to toe I feel we will concede easily and be left with nothing but a deflated team  and the same old posters moaning about Tony Khan, Seri and the sacking of Slav
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Wingnut on December 23, 2018, 11:29:25 AM
Don't mind seeing a few changes further up the field, i.e. Sess if fit, AK for Schurrle, Ayite for TC even but please don't change the defence.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Statto on December 23, 2018, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on December 23, 2018, 11:19:39 AM
Same team from Newcastle game but with Sess in for Bryan

+1

Kamara on for Schurrle after 60 min
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: @jolslover on December 23, 2018, 11:39:57 AM
Quote from: Statto on December 23, 2018, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on December 23, 2018, 11:19:39 AM
Same team from Newcastle game but with Sess in for Bryan

+1

Kamara on for Schurrle after 60 min

Agree
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Robbie on December 23, 2018, 01:19:20 PM
My worry is we now seem to have no goals.
Mitro, Shirley and AK are mis firing.
I know we all love AK's power and pace but he has NO composure in front of goal.
Mitro - not convinced at the moment ... looks fat.

Shirley ... Fonte / Ruiz like ... luxury.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Moltobueno on December 23, 2018, 03:12:42 PM
wouldn't mind the same formation but I really doubt Ranieri will play it again... if he does, I agree with the comments Sess to replace Bryan (hopefully he's fit) - I must admit I'm a fan of Bryan but so far he has made a lot of silly errors...

If the formation is about to change, I'm still waiting to see a 4-1-4-1 where Cairney and Seri can help Mitro in attack together and Chambers controlling the midfield.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on December 23, 2018, 03:38:07 PM
The lads looked whacked at the end yesterday - they are not used to giving 90 minutes effort.

It's a busy schedule at this time - the tinkerman may tinker.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: twang on December 23, 2018, 03:38:57 PM
Rico
Odoi - Mawson - Ream
Christie - Chambers - Seri - Sessegnon
Cairney - Mitrovic - Kamara

Bench: Bettinelli, Le Marchand, Bryan, McDonald, Johansen, Schurrle & Ayite
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Mullers OG on December 23, 2018, 06:09:29 PM
Sane team for me as at Newcastle unless Sess fit in which case he comes in for Bryan.

On bench Betts, Bryan, Le M (if fit otherwise Cisse), McD, SJ, Ayite, Kamara

Ayite on for Schurrle after 60 mins
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: filham on December 23, 2018, 06:46:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 23, 2018, 10:56:46 AM
Quote from: filham on December 23, 2018, 10:50:54 AM
That was the most defensive line up and performance I have ever seen from a Fulham team, it was called for yesterday and was a tactical success for Ranieri . The point won was critical and kept Newcastle in the relegation zone.

However  more of the same is not going to get us the wins we now need to avoid relegation, we fielded five across the back yesterday plus Chambers, a centre back, in midfield. It will be interesting to see if Ranieri changes tactics for the next two games which are at home.
wolves are far better than Newcastle, plus with our mini goal drought, I think it would be suicidal to abandon a defensive line up. It just needs a little tweaking imo. Like I said above, swap out Bryan for sessegnion and swap out schurrle for ak. Those two changes would make us far superior in attack and more solid at the back. It's a no brainer imo.
Quote from: fulhamben on December 23, 2018, 10:56:46 AM
Quote from: filham on December 23, 2018, 10:50:54 AM
That was the most defensive line up and performance I have ever seen from a Fulham team, it was called for yesterday and was a tactical success for Ranieri . The point won was critical and kept Newcastle in the relegation zone.

However  more of the same is not going to get us the wins we now need to avoid relegation, we fielded five across the back yesterday plus Chambers, a centre back, in midfield. It will be interesting to see if Ranieri changes tactics for the next two games which are at home.
wolves are far better than Newcastle, plus with our mini goal drought, I think it would be suicidal to abandon a defensive line up. It just needs a little tweaking imo. Like I said above, swap out Bryan for sessegnion and swap out schurrle for ak. Those two changes would make us far superior in attack and more solid at the back. It's a no brainer imo.

Yes Fulham Ben, I agree with you Sess. and Ben should help to give spark in attack and it has to be of prime importance to stay solid at the back,
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: AnOldBrownie on December 23, 2018, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: WhiteJC on December 23, 2018, 08:46:42 AM
After a clean sheet, finally, it looks as if Ranieri has come up with a formation and system that works so I'm going with more of the same. Seri had a good game, perhaps the extra cover helped? The only change I've made from the starting 11 is AK47 for Schurrle, I'm assuming that Ryan will not be fit


Rico

Odoi          Mawson          Ream

Christie          Chambers          Seri          Bryan

Cairney          AK47

Mitro

Subs: Betts, MLM, KMac, Ayite, Vietto, Schurrle


I'd only make one change to this lineup.

If Sess is healthy... I start him over AK47.     I then have AK47 come off the bench at minute 60 to replace Cairney or Seri.

Other than that, other than dropping Schurrle I wouldn't change the lineup this week.


Seri is growing on me.   I'm assuming they are beating defensive positioning and duties into him...and i like some of his longer passes.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Saturday 26/12/18
Post by: AnOldBrownie on December 23, 2018, 07:46:58 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 23, 2018, 09:02:57 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on December 23, 2018, 08:51:48 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on December 23, 2018, 08:46:42 AM
After a clean sheet, finally, it looks as if Ranieri has come up with a formation and system that works so I'm going with more of the same. Seri had a good game, perhaps the extra cover helped? The only change I've made from the starting 11 is AK47 for Schurrle, I'm assuming that Ryan will not be fit


Rico

Odoi          Mawson          Ream

Christie          Chambers          Seri          Bryan

Cairney          AK47

Mitro

Subs: Betts, MLM, KMac, Ayite, Vietto, Schurrle

I agree, but Sessegnon will hopefully be fit, so him for Schurrle, and Kamara as an impact sub.
no, ak for schurrle and sess for Bryan.boom that's a title winning team right there

I don't get this.    The offense is much better when Ryan is on the wing than when he's defending, and both MLM and Bryan can defend fine.

I want AK on the field too, but Ryan is more likely to finish his chances.    Plus, Ryan can be productive for a full 90 minutes...and play alongside both Mitro and AK47 late into games.


Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: MrD1879 on December 23, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
We have probably the striker with the biggest aerial threat in the league yet insist on playing inverted wingers. Get sess on the left and get some balls in the box.
Also love Cairney but he can't play in the new position isn't a threat going forward it's either him or Seri

                   Rico
       Odoi Mawson Ream
Christie                      Bryan
          Chambers Seri
Kebano                      Sess
             Mitro
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on December 23, 2018, 08:11:07 PM
Quote from: MrD1879 on December 23, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
We have probably the striker with the biggest aerial threat in the league yet insist on playing inverted wingers. Get sess on the left and get some balls in the box.
Also love Cairney but he can't play in the new position isn't a threat going forward it's either him or Seri

                   Rico
       Odoi Mawson Ream
Christie                      Bryan
          Chambers Seri
Kebano                      Sess
             Mitro
Quote from: MrD1879 on December 23, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
We have probably the striker with the biggest aerial threat in the league yet insist on playing inverted wingers. Get sess on the left and get some balls in the box.
Also love Cairney but he can't play in the new position isn't a threat going forward it's either him or Seri

                   Rico
       Odoi Mawson Ream
Christie                      Bryan
          Chambers Seri
Kebano                      Sess
             Mitro

Quite like your line up, it makes sense, I just would personally prefer Tom Cairney to Seri, and Kamara may feel disappointed not to have a starting place, but I understand your reasons for this line up, and it could work.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: FulhamStu on December 23, 2018, 11:14:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 23, 2018, 08:11:07 PM
Quote from: MrD1879 on December 23, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
We have probably the striker with the biggest aerial threat in the league yet insist on playing inverted wingers. Get sess on the left and get some balls in the box.
Also love Cairney but he can't play in the new position isn't a threat going forward it's either him or Seri

                   Rico
       Odoi Mawson Ream
Christie                      Bryan
          Chambers Seri
Kebano                      Sess
             Mitro
Quote from: MrD1879 on December 23, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
We have probably the striker with the biggest aerial threat in the league yet insist on playing inverted wingers. Get sess on the left and get some balls in the box.
Also love Cairney but he can't play in the new position isn't a threat going forward it's either him or Seri

                   Rico
       Odoi Mawson Ream
Christie                      Bryan
          Chambers Seri
Kebano                      Sess
             Mitro

Quite like your line up, it makes sense, I just would personally prefer Tom Cairney to Seri, and Kamara may feel disappointed not to have a starting place, but I understand your reasons for this line up, and it could work.

Yes, start with Seri or Cairney and them they have 46-60 monies to leave everything on the pitch, then swap.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Milo on December 24, 2018, 01:13:28 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 23, 2018, 09:02:57 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on December 23, 2018, 08:51:48 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on December 23, 2018, 08:46:42 AM
After a clean sheet, finally, it looks as if Ranieri has come up with a formation and system that works so I'm going with more of the same. Seri had a good game, perhaps the extra cover helped? The only change I've made from the starting 11 is AK47 for Schurrle, I'm assuming that Ryan will not be fit


Rico

Odoi          Mawson          Ream

Christie          Chambers          Seri          Bryan

Cairney          AK47

Mitro

Subs: Betts, MLM, KMac, Ayite, Vietto, Schurrle

I agree, but Sessegnon will hopefully be fit, so him for Schurrle, and Kamara as an impact sub.
no, ak for schurrle and sess for Bryan.boom that's a title winning team right there

:plus one:
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on December 24, 2018, 12:06:55 PM
 Cannot see any justification for selecting Schurrie, he made no impact whatsoever, did not look genuinely interested. I hate to say it, but he is a liability in a relegation fight. Especially as we have alternatives.
AK 47 did far more when he case on than Schurrie did in the whole of time he was on, it must feel like playing with ten men when the lazy Schurrie is on the field of play.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: MrFFC on December 24, 2018, 12:09:55 PM
Be mad to change formation Wolves are dangerous on the break we need men behind the ball we will create chances at home for sure

For me

                       Rico
              Odoi Mawson Ream
Christie                            Bryan
                 Seri Chambers
             Cairney     Kamara
                     Mitrovic

Subs - Bettinelli Le Marchand Johansen McDonald Schurrle Kebano Sessegnon (if injured then Vietto)
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on December 24, 2018, 12:12:23 PM
Quote from: MrFFC on December 24, 2018, 12:09:55 PM
Be mad to change formation Wolves are dangerous on the break we need men behind the ball we will create chances at home for sure

For me

                       Rico
              Odoi Mawson Ream
Christie                            Bryan
                 Seri Chambers
             Cairney     Kamara
                     Mitrovic

Subs - Bettinelli Le Marchand Johansen McDonald Schurrle Kebano Sessegnon (if injured then Vietto)

I also agree with that lineup.
Title: Re: Team against Wolves - Wednesday 26/12/18
Post by: Brawn on December 24, 2018, 12:35:50 PM
GK 25 S Rico

RB 22 C Christie
RCB 4 D Odoi
CB 26 A Mawson
LCB 13 T Ream
LB 23 J Bryan

RCM 5 C Chambers
LCM 24 J Seri

RAM 10 T Cairney
LAM 3 R Sessegnon

ST 9 A Mitrovic

Subs:
1 M Bettinelli
6 K McDonald
8 S Johansen
11 F Ayite
14 A Schurrle
20 M Le Marchand
47 A Kamara