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Title: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2019, 08:26:09 AM
Is It too early to put it up?
If not let's keep it to rumours and fact only,not quote after quote of players we've already signed abilities... Coyw.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: davew on April 28, 2019, 08:50:17 AM
Mitrovic to Newcastle, Ryan Sess to Spurs, Cairney to West Ham, Joe Bryan to Sheff Utd, Ryan Babel destination not yet known?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on April 28, 2019, 09:29:31 AM
This summer window I will not be viewing the Transfer thread, will not be looking at any of the Gossip articles on other media sites. I will just wait for any Official announcements. I am going to keep my sanity, relax by the pool & enjoy the Spanish sun. Enjoy all the speculation & lazy journalism but not for me any more.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: davew on April 28, 2019, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: grandad on April 28, 2019, 09:29:31 AM
This summer window I will not be viewing the Transfer thread, will not be looking at any of the Gossip articles on other media sites. I will just wait for any Official announcements. I am going to keep my sanity, relax by the pool & enjoy the Spanish sun. Enjoy all the speculation & lazy journalism but not for me any more.
Don't blame you, I will fill my time golfing and fishing whatever the weather.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 28, 2019, 10:36:57 AM
Quote from: davew on April 28, 2019, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: grandad on April 28, 2019, 09:29:31 AM
This summer window I will not be viewing the Transfer thread, will not be looking at any of the Gossip articles on other media sites. I will just wait for any Official announcements. I am going to keep my sanity, relax by the pool & enjoy the Spanish sun. Enjoy all the speculation & lazy journalism but not for me any more.
Don't blame you, I will fill my time golfing and fishing whatever the weather.

Same here, I shall spend the whole summer helping mince clear out his Garden Shed. Which may even overlap into the new season. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: keithh on April 28, 2019, 05:41:06 PM
I look forward to the endless repetition and diatribes between keyboard warriors who need to fill whole pages about their prowess.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on April 28, 2019, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: keithh on April 28, 2019, 05:41:06 PM
I look forward to the endless repetition and diatribes between keyboard warriors who need to fill whole pages about their prowess.

Yes and let's hope they don't forget to keep quoting each other in every post so it takes up a full page
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 28, 2019, 07:52:34 PM
Personally I think they are a flaming nuisance.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on April 28, 2019, 08:01:20 PM
Hundred odd pages of rubbish!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: YankeeJim on April 28, 2019, 08:07:33 PM
There will be ten thousand rumors. Two or three will actually come true.
Sadly, I'll read the threads.  :016:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bracken White on April 28, 2019, 08:15:54 PM
Looking forward to strengthening strategically & trimming the squad of mercenaries & those of negligible quality. This, under the auspice of the Team Management, with Board members negotiating accordingly.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Friendsoffulham on April 28, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
We are making changes for next season, where they Silly Season Transfer Thread, will only be used for transfer news, for example, no off topics, and members having to trawl through endless amounts of posts. Not sure if we are going to do it, or designate a member with the responsibility.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on April 29, 2019, 09:29:44 AM
Given Anguissa's price dropped on last deadline day 9th August 2018 and his price was still huge, we can safety assume we cannot afford anyone decent until deadline day. So, no point talking about big buys until August 2019.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on April 29, 2019, 09:34:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on April 29, 2019, 09:29:44 AM
Given Anguissa's price dropped on last deadline day 9th August 2018 and his price was still huge, we can safety assume we cannot afford anyone decent until deadline day. So, no point talking about big buys until August 2019.

Not sure Zambo qualifies as a "big boy" yet.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on April 29, 2019, 09:35:13 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on April 28, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
We are making changes for next season, where they Silly Season Transfer Thread, will only be used for transfer news, for example, no off topics, and members having to trawl through endless amounts of posts. Not sure if we are going to do it, or designate a member with the responsibility.

Sounds pretty sensible to me.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 29, 2019, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on April 28, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
We are making changes for next season, where they Silly Season Transfer Thread, will only be used for transfer news, for example, no off topics, and members having to trawl through endless amounts of posts. Not sure if we are going to do it, or designate a member with the responsibility.

Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on April 29, 2019, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 28, 2019, 10:36:57 AM
Quote from: davew on April 28, 2019, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: grandad on April 28, 2019, 09:29:31 AM
This summer window I will not be viewing the Transfer thread, will not be looking at any of the Gossip articles on other media sites. I will just wait for any Official announcements. I am going to keep my sanity, relax by the pool & enjoy the Spanish sun. Enjoy all the speculation & lazy journalism but not for me any more.
Don't blame you, I will fill my time golfing and fishing whatever the weather.

Same here, I shall spend the whole summer helping mince clear out his Garden Shed. Which may even overlap into the new season. 

I had a shed in England.
I called it..........Rogers Shed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 29, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
No gossip on here then.
FoF are putting up the Silly Season Transfer Rumours.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 29, 2019, 02:19:48 PM
Quote from: rogerpnowinFlorida on April 29, 2019, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 28, 2019, 10:36:57 AM
Quote from: davew on April 28, 2019, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: grandad on April 28, 2019, 09:29:31 AM
This summer window I will not be viewing the Transfer thread, will not be looking at any of the Gossip articles on other media sites. I will just wait for any Official announcements. I am going to keep my sanity, relax by the pool & enjoy the Spanish sun. Enjoy all the speculation & lazy journalism but not for me any more.
Don't blame you, I will fill my time golfing and fishing whatever the weather.

Same here, I shall spend the whole summer helping mince clear out his Garden Shed. Which may even overlap into the new season. 

I had a shed in England.
I called it..........Rogers Shed

Was that used for Rogering.
I also had a shed called Furni Shed, but it disappeared overnight so I renamed it Vani Shed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on April 29, 2019, 04:31:11 PM
Can't wait for transfer talk. Even if it's speculation or rumours, it's still exciting to see because it means this season is over finally, and we can look at who is potentially out there to wear the shirt for our immediate return to the PL. Most important though, none of the transfer talk matters until we get a permanent manager announced - and hopefully soon.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rock on April 29, 2019, 08:38:13 PM
Does it even matter? I have lost all hope - if TK gets it right it will be purely because of luck or due to random selection. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on April 30, 2019, 09:41:27 AM
As per usual, one full page gone and not one mention of transfer gossip, more on people's sheds?!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 30, 2019, 03:54:43 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on April 30, 2019, 09:41:27 AM
As per usual, one full page gone and not one mention of transfer gossip, more on people's sheds?!

This isn't the official Silly Season Transfer Topic,FoF are putting it up,this was just a question if it was too early.
If you read the posts you'll see I've stated it already.😕
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 30, 2019, 05:13:43 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 30, 2019, 03:54:43 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on April 30, 2019, 09:41:27 AM
As per usual, one full page gone and not one mention of transfer gossip, more on people's sheds?!

This isn't the official Silly Season Transfer Topic,FoF are putting it up,this was just a question if it was too early.
If you read the posts you'll see I've stated it already.😕

If I might shed some light on this matter. Sheds are the in thing, and are ideal to discuss when there is no football Transfer gossip. Let's face it, what would you like to read about more, bogus transfer gossip or sheds.
Well I shall answer that for you, bogus sheds. Like the one they use to have at Stamford Bridge, that was eventually identified as being bogus.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on April 30, 2019, 05:21:08 PM
Shiplap, overlap or tounge and grooved?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on April 30, 2019, 05:21:36 PM
https://www.shedstore.co.uk/shed-plus-champion-heavy-duty-apex-single-door-shed-10-by-8-shs
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 30, 2019, 06:31:37 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on April 30, 2019, 05:21:36 PM
https://www.shedstore.co.uk/shed-plus-champion-heavy-duty-apex-single-door-shed-10-by-8-shs


Tell me Mince, which shed is yours, and how long have you lived in it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 30, 2019, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 30, 2019, 06:31:37 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on April 30, 2019, 05:21:36 PM
https://www.shedstore.co.uk/shed-plus-champion-heavy-duty-apex-single-door-shed-10-by-8-shs


Tell me Mince, which shed is yours, and how long have you lived in it.

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Not like any of them,smaller black n white of course and my escape.
As for living in it the wife would love that idea when we lose and I sulk about the house...lol

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on April 30, 2019, 10:54:36 PM
What a great idea. This thread can be kept for the shed talk, humour regarding ladies that make coffee and tea, rumours about Jason Koumas, constant digs at Tony & Shahid Khan and all the other stuff that has made this site so great over the last couple of seasons.

When you want a laugh because maybe Mrs Brown Boys is not on, you can come on here and get your fill of state-of-the-art humour.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on April 30, 2019, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on April 30, 2019, 10:54:36 PM
What a great idea. This thread can be kept for the shed talk, humour regarding ladies that make coffee and tea, rumours about Jason Koumas, constant digs at Tony & Shahid Khan and all the other stuff that has made this site so great over the last couple of seasons.

When you want a laugh because maybe Mrs Brown Boys is not on, you can come on here and get your fill of state-of-the-art humour.

Sorry but this is not transfer related comment.

My point is that, whilst it is ideal that we have a rumour only thread, what's the point if people can't comment and discuss? Ok, so some posters choose to make light-hearted comments, but generally most just want to discuss their opinions, which may lead to lengthy exchanges, so scroll past unless you want this forum to die. Is it a coincidence that the comments you refer to are usually by 2-3 posters, who happen to have a massive input to all things Fulham?

Personally, my input to these threads is 90% rumour and news (imo), but that doesn't guarantee my abstention to a quip now and again.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on May 01, 2019, 07:37:45 PM
Report: Fulham submit £6m bid to sign Matthias Zimmermann

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/05/01/report-fulham-submit-6m-bid-to-sign-matthias-zimmermann/

According to EXPRESS in Germany, Fulham have submitted a €7million (£6million) bid to sign Fortuna Dusseldorf defender Matthias Zimmermann this summer.

The Cottagers have suffered relegation from the Premier League, but have suddenly won three games in a row without conceding a goal, boosting Scott Parker's chances of becoming their permanent manager.

Fulham will already be planning for life back in the Championship, and another right back may be on the radar to compete with Ryan Christie next season.

No permanent manager is in place yet, but one player appears to be a target already, as EXPRESS report that Fulham have submitted a bid of £6million for Zimmermann.

The 26-year-old has been something of a nomad in his native German,y already turning out for Karlsruhe, Borussia Monchengladbach, Greuther Furth, Sandhausen, Stuttgart and now Fortuna Dusseldorf.

In what has been a superb season for Dusseldorf, Zimmermann has been a key part of their rise, notching a goal and three assists in 31 Bundesliga games.

Fulham will hope to get a deal teed up for the summer, making Zimmermann their first signing since relegation, but Dusseldorf will be desperate to keep hold of him as they look to build on such a strong season.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on May 01, 2019, 07:49:58 PM
He seems to have wandered around the German clubs without exactly establishing himself but I hate criticising in advance so let's hope that this one may be another Maurice Voltz.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on May 01, 2019, 10:07:38 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

We need a train station emoji!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?

Fair point. Disgusting [if true]
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?

Fair point. Disgusting [if true]

Ok yes, disgusting if true.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?

Fair point. Disgusting [if true]

Ok yes, disgusting if true.

Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 02, 2019, 05:59:55 AM
Why has the Official Silly Season been locked
after 3 replies....What is going on?😯
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on May 02, 2019, 08:37:10 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 02, 2019, 05:59:55 AM
Why has the Official Silly Season been locked
after 3 replies....What is going on?😯
So that it is purely transfer news/rumours methinks. I assume it will be unlocked to be added to, then re-locked. Some people on here wanted a thread without the debate.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 02, 2019, 09:02:52 AM
Quote from: Barrett487 on May 02, 2019, 08:37:10 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 02, 2019, 05:59:55 AM
Why has the Official Silly Season been locked
after 3 replies....What is going on?😯
So that it is purely transfer news/rumours methinks. I assume it will be unlocked to be added to, then re-locked. Some people on here wanted a thread without the debate.

So we don't get to add to it then?😕
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Carborundum on May 02, 2019, 10:25:51 AM
So a thread that, for all its idiosyncrasies, traditionally generates huge traffic and views is to be replaced by a more sober-sided distant relative.

My understanding of internet economics appears badly out of date.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on May 02, 2019, 11:03:05 AM
Quote from: Carborundum on May 02, 2019, 10:25:51 AM
So a thread that, for all its idiosyncrasies, traditionally generates huge traffic and views is to be replaced by a more sober-sided distant relative.

My understanding of internet economics appears badly out of date.

yes but there this thread for all the waffle and arguing, if people just want to see the rumours instead of A calling B an idiot and offering him out then they can just look there. Seems rather sensible
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on May 02, 2019, 12:02:35 PM
If you find bits of transfer news then post them here and we will update the official thread when we can!

The other thread will just be an abridged version for people to skim through the main rumours without having to trawl through pages of discussion.

It was a response to feedback in January mainly, but unfortunately there isn't always going to be a solution that makes everyone happy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on May 02, 2019, 12:40:15 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?

Fair point. Disgusting [if true]

Ok yes, disgusting if true.

Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.

No one is going to be rewarding Seri for anything. He will be sold if it makes overall sense to those in charge. This will include factors like economics and squad depth but also less concrete factors like if keeping an unhappy player (if that is the case) would be deemed to have a negative effect on the rest of the team.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 02, 2019, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Nero on May 02, 2019, 11:03:05 AM
Quote from: Carborundum on May 02, 2019, 10:25:51 AM
So a thread that, for all its idiosyncrasies, traditionally generates huge traffic and views is to be replaced by a more sober-sided distant relative.

My understanding of internet economics appears badly out of date.

yes but there this thread for all the waffle and arguing, if people just want to see the rumours instead of A calling B an idiot and offering him out then they can just look there. Seems rather sensible

I enjoy reading "A calling B an idiot and offering him out" (aka discussion about FFC) but it will be very nice not to have to read that secondary level of posts arguing and moaning about all the other stuff they perceive to be arguing and moaning.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 02, 2019, 03:01:12 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 02, 2019, 09:02:52 AM
Quote from: Barrett487 on May 02, 2019, 08:37:10 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 02, 2019, 05:59:55 AM
Why has the Official Silly Season been locked
after 3 replies....What is going on?😯
So that it is purely transfer news/rumours methinks. I assume it will be unlocked to be added to, then re-locked. Some people on here wanted a thread without the debate.

So we don't get to add to it then?😕

You can send a post card, providing it's from Westgate on Sea.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on May 02, 2019, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?

Fair point. Disgusting [if true]

Ok yes, disgusting if true.

Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.

Err who was comparing Seri and Norwood? How do you claim on the one hand he has "more talent in his little finger.....", then go on to say he "has been TK's worse (sic) permanent signing"? Bit of a contradiction no?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on May 02, 2019, 05:57:58 PM
The summer transfer window in the Championship will close at the same time as the Premier League in major changes announced today.

Teams in the second tier will have to complete all loan or permanent signings by Thursday, August 8 while League One and League Two will still have until the end of the month.


Last season all 72 EFL sides had until 31 August to sign players on loan but now Championship clubs will have to get all their business done by August 8.

A statement from the EFL read: "The deadline for Championship Clubs for all incoming permanent and loan registrations closes at 5pm on the Thursday prior to the commencement of the Premier League season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: YoungsBitter on May 02, 2019, 10:34:01 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on May 02, 2019, 05:57:58 PM
The summer transfer window in the Championship will close at the same time as the Premier League in major changes announced today.

Teams in the second tier will have to complete all loan or permanent signings by Thursday, August 8 while League One and League Two will still have until the end of the month.


Last season all 72 EFL sides had until 31 August to sign players on loan but now Championship clubs will have to get all their business done by August 8.

A statement from the EFL read: "The deadline for Championship Clubs for all incoming permanent and loan registrations closes at 5pm on the Thursday prior to the commencement of the Premier League season.
When does the Prem window close?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:16:52 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 02, 2019, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?

Fair point. Disgusting [if true]

Ok yes, disgusting if true.

Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.

Err who was comparing Seri and Norwood? How do you claim on the one hand he has "more talent in his little finger.....", then go on to say he "has been TK's worse (sic) permanent signing"? Bit of a contradiction no?

I guess your right, something is missing is Seri's performances at Fulham, and I don't know what it is  but it's not a lack of talent that is missing.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:16:52 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 02, 2019, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?

Fair point. Disgusting [if true]

Ok yes, disgusting if true.

Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.

Err who was comparing Seri and Norwood? How do you claim on the one hand he has "more talent in his little finger.....", then go on to say he "has been TK's worse (sic) permanent signing"? Bit of a contradiction no?

I guess your right, something is missing is Seri's performances at Fulham, and I don't know what it is  but it's not a lack of talent that is missing.

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ffccornwall on May 03, 2019, 09:34:00 AM
Quote from: Milo on May 02, 2019, 12:02:35 PM
If you find bits of transfer news then post them here and we will update the official thread when we can!

The other thread will just be an abridged version for people to skim through the main rumours without having to trawl through pages of discussion.

It was a response to feedback in January mainly, but unfortunately there isn't always going to be a solution that makes everyone happy.
Seems sensible to me.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:16:52 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 02, 2019, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?

Fair point. Disgusting [if true]

Ok yes, disgusting if true.

Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.

Err who was comparing Seri and Norwood? How do you claim on the one hand he has "more talent in his little finger.....", then go on to say he "has been TK's worse (sic) permanent signing"? Bit of a contradiction no?

I guess your right, something is missing is Seri's performances at Fulham, and I don't know what it is  but it's not a lack of talent that is missing.

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.

Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.

Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.

I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on May 03, 2019, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.

Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.

Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.

I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.

As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on May 03, 2019, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.

Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.

Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.

I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.

As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point

True, the simplest explanation is many players in Fulham Seri, Anguiissa, Cairney and Sessegnon just didn't play as well as last season in 17/18. We shouldn't spend time blaming anyone, just focus on getting them playing their best again, i have seen Anguissa destroy Australia. None of his performances in a Fulham shirt have been anywhere near that standard, but i hope he does.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 03, 2019, 04:34:16 PM
I will judge Seri in mid-September when all the international transfer windows are closed.

If he's still here, I'll say well done to the lad, be very happy to have such a talented player on our books, and of course I'll get behind him 100%.

If he's gone, I'll treat that conclusive proof that everything Woolly Mammoth says about his character, honour etc is true. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on May 03, 2019, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 03, 2019, 04:34:16 PM
I will judge Seri in mid-September when all the international transfer windows are closed.

If he's still here, I'll say well done to the lad, be very happy to have such a talented player on our books, and of course I'll get behind him 100%.

If he's gone, I'll treat that conclusive proof that everything Woolly Mammoth says about his character, honour etc is true. 

There you go, "such a talented player", this is in line with Raional Fan's assertion that he has plenty of talent.  I don't agree with Woolly that he lacks heart etc., however neither have I seen anything to support the view that Seri is so talented. Until I do, I have to conclude he is a rather average player who was totally over priced.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 07:58:19 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 03, 2019, 04:34:16 PM
I will judge Seri in mid-September when all the international transfer windows are closed.

If he's still here, I'll say well done to the lad, be very happy to have such a talented player on our books, and of course I'll get behind him 100%.

If he's gone, I'll treat that conclusive proof that everything Woolly Mammoth says about his character, honour etc is true.

In my opinion, this is setting the bar for 'conclusive proof' on an astoundingly low level. I would be inclined to agree to disagree, but don't think I can do that on something that lacks almost all levels of context. To each their own I guess.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deuce on May 03, 2019, 08:47:49 PM
Martell Taylor-Crossdale and Gary Cahill, both Chelsea, are rumored to join us. Wouldnt say no to Cahill, as long as he drops in wage. We've had some nice experience when signing former England internationals (Parker, Murphy) and having Cahill mentoring Mawson isnt a horrible thought.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 04, 2019, 12:34:57 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on May 03, 2019, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.

Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.

Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.

I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.

As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point

True, the simplest explanation is many players in Fulham Seri, Anguiissa, Cairney and Sessegnon just didn't play as well as last season in 17/18. We shouldn't spend time blaming anyone, just focus on getting them playing their best again, i have seen Anguissa destroy Australia. None of his performances in a Fulham shirt have been anywhere near that standard, but i hope he does.

I was not aware that Anguissa played cricket, and I do not remember him ever destroying Australia, was it at bowling or at batting. It cannot be at football seeing as he could not trap a bag of cement.
Although I acknowledge that his performances recently have shown some improvement, and if he stopped passing the ball to an opponent, which comes under the classification of unforced errors, he may improve a little more.
But he is another one that shows no character or passion, no expression on his boat race, a very robotic expensive player without any character signed on the evidence of stats, and some people wonder why we have gone straight back down.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on May 04, 2019, 07:59:47 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 04, 2019, 12:34:57 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on May 03, 2019, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.

Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.

Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.

I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.

As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point

True, the simplest explanation is many players in Fulham Seri, Anguiissa, Cairney and Sessegnon just didn't play as well as last season in 17/18. We shouldn't spend time blaming anyone, just focus on getting them playing their best again, i have seen Anguissa destroy Australia. None of his performances in a Fulham shirt have been anywhere near that standard, but i hope he does.

I was not aware that Anguissa played cricket, and I do not remember him ever destroying Australia, was it at bowling or at batting. It cannot be at football seeing as he could not trap a bag of cement.
Although I acknowledge that his performances recently have shown some improvement, and if he stopped passing the ball to an opponent, which comes under the classification of unforced errors, he may improve a little more.
But he is another one that shows no character or passion, no expression on his boat race, a very robotic expensive player without any character signed on the evidence of stats, and some people wonder why we have gone straight back down.

Riiiiight
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 05, 2019, 06:21:44 AM
Manure in for 17 goal Lyon Striker Moussa Dembele,valued at £45 mill by his club.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on May 05, 2019, 09:35:53 AM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on May 04, 2019, 07:59:47 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 04, 2019, 12:34:57 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on May 03, 2019, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.

Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.

Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.

I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.

As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point

True, the simplest explanation is many players in Fulham Seri, Anguiissa, Cairney and Sessegnon just didn't play as well as last season in 17/18. We shouldn't spend time blaming anyone, just focus on getting them playing their best again, i have seen Anguissa destroy Australia. None of his performances in a Fulham shirt have been anywhere near that standard, but i hope he does.

I was not aware that Anguissa played cricket, and I do not remember him ever destroying Australia, was it at bowling or at batting. It cannot be at football seeing as he could not trap a bag of cement.
Although I acknowledge that his performances recently have shown some improvement, and if he stopped passing the ball to an opponent, which comes under the classification of unforced errors, he may improve a little more.
But he is another one that shows no character or passion, no expression on his boat race, a very robotic expensive player without any character signed on the evidence of stats, and some people wonder why we have gone straight back down.

Riiiiight

Think the lads been told he has 2 jobs win the ball and pass it to someone better, unfortunately, they didn't make it clear it should be someone on the same team as him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GJB on May 05, 2019, 12:24:22 PM
I'd like to see us put offers in for either, or both, Jarrod Bowen and Che Adams. They've both got +20 goals this season, for average championship sides.

At 22 years old, I think these two have good potential with championship experience already under their belt. If we don't sign them, our championship competitors will definitely have them on their radar
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on May 05, 2019, 12:28:27 PM
Quote from: GJB on May 05, 2019, 12:24:22 PM
I'd like to see us put offers in for either, or both, Jarrod Bowen and Che Adams. They've both got +20 goals this season, for average championship sides.

At 22 years old, I think these two have good potential with championship experience already under their belt. If we don't sign them, our championship competitors will definitely have them on their radar

This is the sort of thing we need to be doing, identifying the Joe Bryan's of the Championship who could make the step up when we go up.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GJB on May 05, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on May 05, 2019, 01:07:09 PM
Just hope that those players that are destined to leave do so in the first few weeks of the window in order to enable us to secure considered replacements. The thought of our procurement team running around in ever decreasing circles in the last couple of days of the open window again is frightening.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 05, 2019, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: GJB on May 05, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season

You do realise Tony Khan can say KMac and StefJo cannot leave, he doesn't have to persuade anyone. And frankly, it's the managers problem to keep them motivated if they do stay. Stefjo would be happy to stay provided he gets game time, with a 46 game season and without Chambers in the squad he surely will even if as a regular sub.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GJB on May 05, 2019, 02:11:49 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 05, 2019, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: GJB on May 05, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season

You do realise Tony Khan can say KMac and StefJo cannot leave, he doesn't have to persuade anyone. And frankly, it's the managers problem to keep them motivated if they do stay. Stefjo would be happy to stay provided he gets game time, with a 46 game season and without Chambers in the squad he surely will even if as a regular sub.

I never questioned their motivation, they're two players who I have no worries regarding their motivation and passion while on the pitch.

Chambers isn't who StefJo will be competing against? Chambers is a defensive midfielder, Stef Jo is box-to-box so it will be Anguissa he's competing against.

Also, isn't Johansen's three year contract up at the end of this 2018/19 season, meaning some kind of persuasion may be necessary to tempt him to extend it?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on May 05, 2019, 02:23:35 PM
Quote from: GJB on May 05, 2019, 02:11:49 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 05, 2019, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: GJB on May 05, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season

You do realise Tony Khan can say KMac and StefJo cannot leave, he doesn't have to persuade anyone. And frankly, it's the managers problem to keep them motivated if they do stay. Stefjo would be happy to stay provided he gets game time, with a 46 game season and without Chambers in the squad he surely will even if as a regular sub.

I never questioned their motivation, they're two players who I have no worries regarding their motivation and passion while on the pitch.

Chambers isn't who StefJo will be competing against? Chambers is a defensive midfielder, Stef Jo is box-to-box so it will be Anguissa he's competing against.

Also, isn't Johansen's three year contract up at the end of this 2018/19 season, meaning some kind of persuasion may be necessary to tempt him to extend it?

Club has the option of another year, if they chose to extend it. However, I have it on good authority, he's absolutely pee'd off with the Club, over contract extensions last season, and is unlikely to play for us again.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 05, 2019, 02:54:15 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:16:52 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 02, 2019, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?

Fair point. Disgusting [if true]

Ok yes, disgusting if true.

Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.

Err who was comparing Seri and Norwood? How do you claim on the one hand he has "more talent in his little finger.....", then go on to say he "has been TK's worse (sic) permanent signing"? Bit of a contradiction no?

I guess your right, something is missing is Seri's performances at Fulham, and I don't know what it is  but it's not a lack of talent that is missing.

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.


You have to tell yourself, you have to agree with me, you will enjoy this forum far more, and you will find peace and tranquility in you life.
I expect by reading my post you are feeling better already.
So please continue agreeing with me, do not listen to the barrack room lawyers who are philistines and Wolves in sheep's clothing. However, you clearly are of good intellect, and I am confident you will not be seduced or influenced by cads and bounders whose only mission is to make sarcastic comments without adding any real contributions.
So continue agreeing with me and the sun will shine on you.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FulhamStu on May 05, 2019, 03:59:16 PM
I just posted a few words on the Wolves thread above about Anguissa's very poor effort on their goal yesterday.   One of thing we got badly wrong was the character of players we recruited.  Frank and Seri this season give the impression that they don't care enough.  This may be miles off the truth and Parker is certainly giving Frank a lot of love which I doubt he would if my comments above were true, however the fact is, next season in the championship we can't afford passengers.  Tom Cairney for all his excellent footballing skills does not play with passion and KMac and StefJo allowed him to stroll at times last season.

Parker was a real grafter on the pitch and I would have though is very well placed to know who could do well next season and who is not suited so TK has to listen to him.

Chambers attitude has been excellent and this is one of his main assets.

We will need leaders and battlers as well as the skills of players like TC.  I am sure there is more than enough talent in this squad but I am not sure there are enough with the right attitude to succeed in a very tough league.

Parker keeps saying how important next season is, his focus tells me he will be in charge and TK needs to have him by his side during recruitment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 05, 2019, 05:05:50 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 05, 2019, 03:59:16 PM
I just posted a few words on the Wolves thread above about Anguissa's very poor effort on their goal yesterday.   One of thing we got badly wrong was the character of players we recruited.  Frank and Seri this season give the impression that they don't care enough.  This may be miles off the truth and Parker is certainly giving Frank a lot of love which I doubt he would if my comments above were true, however the fact is, next season in the championship we can't afford passengers.  Tom Cairney for all his excellent footballing skills does not play with passion and KMac and StefJo allowed him to stroll at times last season.

Parker was a real grafter on the pitch and I would have though is very well placed to know who could do well next season and who is not suited so TK has to listen to him.

Chambers attitude has been excellent and this is one of his main assets.

We will need leaders and battlers as well as the skills of players like TC.  I am sure there is more than enough talent in this squad but I am not sure there are enough with the right attitude to succeed in a very tough league.

Parker keeps saying how important next season is, his focus tells me he will be in charge and TK needs to have him by his side during recruitment.

Broadly agree with this. However, as Parker said in an interview the other day, different players are motivated by different things. Evidently Chambers is the typical English sort of player who responds to a relegation battle by knuckling down and battling. Anguissa may just not have the same levers. I wouldn't be surprised if the step down to an easier league, a bit of praise from Parker and the confidence a few wins brings, allows Anguissa to focus on the football more easily and he plays with more of a spring in his step than we've seen this year.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 05, 2019, 05:34:51 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 05, 2019, 03:59:16 PM
I just posted a few words on the Wolves thread above about Anguissa's very poor effort on their goal yesterday.   One of thing we got badly wrong was the character of players we recruited.  Frank and Seri this season give the impression that they don't care enough.  This may be miles off the truth and Parker is certainly giving Frank a lot of love which I doubt he would if my comments above were true, however the fact is, next season in the championship we can't afford passengers.  Tom Cairney for all his excellent footballing skills does not play with passion and KMac and StefJo allowed him to stroll at times last season.

Parker was a real grafter on the pitch and I would have though is very well placed to know who could do well next season and who is not suited so TK has to listen to him.

Chambers attitude has been excellent and this is one of his main assets.

We will need leaders and battlers as well as the skills of players like TC.  I am sure there is more than enough talent in this squad but I am not sure there are enough with the right attitude to succeed in a very tough league.

Parker keeps saying how important next season is, his focus tells me he will be in charge and TK needs to have him by his side during recruitment.

More or less agree with you, it's Characters and Leaders and Warriors we lack, we just have not got enough of them.
The recruitment have signed some real Duds and Passengers, instead of signing real Studs and Passiongers which contributed to some awful gutless displays before SP took over.
We cannot keep signing these kind of players who have no mental or physical strength.
I am sure SP knows the kind of players he needs, and doesn't need showing by the owners son, and the recruitment dudes should start listening and dump their computers in the nearest skip.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.

I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.

I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
like to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 07, 2019, 09:03:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.

I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.

Rest assured TK will ruin the party, so do not raise your hopes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Moltobueno on May 07, 2019, 10:49:55 AM
Shouldn't we go for Ollie Norwood? He seems to get promoted every time.  051
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jims Dentist on May 07, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I wonder what Reading would want for Mo Barrow.
He could give us much needed pace next season and now seems to have added goals to his game.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: aaronmcguigan on May 07, 2019, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season

Im assuming the first Is Cavaliero, whos the second?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: aaronmcguigan on May 07, 2019, 08:26:53 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on May 07, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I wonder what Reading would want for Mo Barrow.
He could give us much needed pace next season and now seems to have added goals to his game.

4 goals in 26 this season?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 07, 2019, 08:30:02 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season

Im assuming the first Is Cavaliero, whos the second?

Confusing Helder Costa with ex-Spurs striker Helder Postiga, perhaps?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Karlos on May 07, 2019, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on May 07, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I wonder what Reading would want for Mo Barrow.
He could give us much needed pace next season and now seems to have added goals to his game.


Would be more interested in Liam Moore
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 08, 2019, 01:16:40 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.

I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
like to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!

Don't be crazy, stats department would love these players. Don't forget a lot of managers don't rate Cairney and Mitro, but the stats on these players show good value. These Managers are Wrong and the Stats are Right 🏅
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on May 08, 2019, 01:56:17 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:26:53 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on May 07, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I wonder what Reading would want for Mo Barrow.
He could give us much needed pace next season and now seems to have added goals to his game.

4 goals in 26 this season?

I think he'd still be good squad depth...RW?   If the team is going to lose Babel, Sess could then go back to his preferred side, then stick Mo on the right?


I'm just playing Football Manager with someone else's money.  :)

I still think RB,CB and holding mid are the biggest issues.

Who is Fulham's Van Djak?   Who is Fulham's Fabinho?

Leaders with incredible pace, strength and the ability to play the ball in the air (under a championship level budget obviously)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 08, 2019, 02:58:11 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on May 08, 2019, 01:56:17 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:26:53 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on May 07, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I wonder what Reading would want for Mo Barrow.
He could give us much needed pace next season and now seems to have added goals to his game.

4 goals in 26 this season?

I think he'd still be good squad depth...RW?   If the team is going to lose Babel, Sess could then go back to his preferred side, then stick Mo on the right?


I'm just playing Football Manager with someone else's money.  :)

I still think RB,CB and holding mid are the biggest issues.

Who is Fulham's Van Djak?   Who is Fulham's Fabinho?

Leaders with incredible pace, strength and the ability to play the ball in the air (under a championship level budget obviously)

You say RB, CB and DM are biggest issues, but we have RBs (Christie, Odoi & Fossey), CBs (Mawson, S.Sess, MLM and Ream) and DMs (eg McDonald, Cisse, Anguissa & Seri). This lot will keep clean sheets against the bottom half even with a few injuries and the Best Back Six with Mawson is as good as any.

But realistically what do we have upfront apart from Cairney, Sessegnon and Mitrovoic, it seems to me upfront we have quality but lack any kind of depth (which will leads to playoffs not automatic promotion).

We need a squad whose second XI can beat QPR. For me Atyie, Kebano, Kamara, Fonte, Torres, Kait and Elliott doesn't allow FFC to rest Mitro ever.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on May 08, 2019, 04:48:35 AM
Quote from: Statto on May 07, 2019, 08:30:02 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season

Im assuming the first Is Cavaliero, whos the second?

Confusing Helder Costa with ex-Spurs striker Helder Postiga, perhaps?

Indeed, to my shame I was
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 08, 2019, 05:44:00 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.

I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
like to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!

You are of course right hovewhite, the stats recruitment dudes will continue to misfire because stats is fools gold.
Stats are wrong, and the managers are right.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 08, 2019, 07:15:45 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 08, 2019, 05:44:00 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.

I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
like to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!

You are of course right hovewhite, the stats recruitment dudes will continue to misfire because stats is fools gold.
Stats are wrong, and the managers are right.

"Managers are Right" means Rafa Bentitz selling Mitro was right and Gary Bowyer selling Cairney was right. Before we had DoFs, most deals were agreed by two managers, one was normally right and one was normally wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Carborundum on May 08, 2019, 07:37:05 AM
Quote from: Statto on May 07, 2019, 08:30:02 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season

Im assuming the first Is Cavaliero, whos the second?

Confusing Helder Costa with ex-Spurs striker Helder Postiga, perhaps?
Suspect that's right.  Helder Costa is a dazzlingly intelligent footballer who would be an adornment for any Championship team.  Why he struggles to get a kick for Wolves is a bit of a mystery, but they seem to have done alright without using him much.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 08, 2019, 07:54:11 AM
Quote from: snarks on May 08, 2019, 04:48:35 AM
Quote from: Statto on May 07, 2019, 08:30:02 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season

Im assuming the first Is Cavaliero, whos the second?

Confusing Helder Costa with ex-Spurs striker Helder Postiga, perhaps?

Indeed, to my shame I was
I only thought so because I've done the same!
Agree either/both would be fantastic signings
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Old Count on May 08, 2019, 08:37:41 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 08, 2019, 07:15:45 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 08, 2019, 05:44:00 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.

I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
like to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!

You are of course right hovewhite, the stats recruitment dudes will continue to misfire because stats is fools gold.
Stats are wrong, and the managers are right.

"Managers are Right" means Rafa Bentitz selling Mitro was right and Gary Bowyer selling Cairney was right. Before we had DoFs, most deals were agreed by two managers, one was normally right and one was normally wrong.

Unless there was a bung involved - Ah! The good old days
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 08, 2019, 08:41:46 AM
Cahill off to Burnley.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on May 08, 2019, 01:43:10 PM
According to a report in the Sun, Fulham have set their sights on signing Chelsea's center back Michael Hector this summer
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 08, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on May 08, 2019, 01:43:10 PM
According to a report in the Sun, Fulham have set their sights on signing Chelsea's center back Michael Hector this summer

Been on loan at Aberdeen, Reading and Wednesday last few seasons,Weds want to sign him as well,think he right back not centre back as stated.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on May 08, 2019, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 08, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on May 08, 2019, 01:43:10 PM
According to a report in the Sun, Fulham have set their sights on signing Chelsea's center back Michael Hector this summer

Been on loan at Aberdeen, Reading and Wednesday last few seasons,Weds want to sign him as well,think he right back not centre back as stated.

He's primarily a Centre back. Might be a Kalas situation where he's played as right back too.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on May 08, 2019, 06:51:17 PM
Google translation from France football

Relegated with Fulham, Jean-Michaël Seri could return in L1 next season. AS Monaco is interested in the Ivorian environment.
With 32 games played on 37 under the colors of Fulham, Jean-Michael Seri tried to survive in a collective in distress. Aged 27, the Ivorian international should be one of the bargains of the next transfer window. In L1, Monaco is attentive to the situation of the former Nice. Contacts exist between the different parties. Seri has the advantage to perfectly know the Championship of France where he flamed in the colors of GYM. N.D.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on May 08, 2019, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on May 08, 2019, 06:51:17 PM
Google translation from France football

Relegated with Fulham, Jean-Michaël Seri could return in L1 next season. AS Monaco is interested in the Ivorian environment.
With 32 games played on 37 under the colors of Fulham, Jean-Michael Seri tried to survive in a collective in distress. Aged 27, the Ivorian international should be one of the bargains of the next transfer window. In L1, Monaco is attentive to the situation of the former Nice. Contacts exist between the different parties. Seri has the advantage to perfectly know the Championship of France where he flamed in the colors of GYM. N.D.

Seems as if Seri along with Mitrovic are all but certain to leave in the summer, I wonder if we will get what we paid for them or if this bad season with us will have significantly reduced their transfer value.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: We Are Premier League on May 08, 2019, 10:25:45 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on May 08, 2019, 01:43:10 PM
According to a report in the Sun, Fulham have set their sights on signing Chelsea's center back Michael Hector this summer

Weds Player  of the season and only 12m left on the contract, sounds like a good signing if the price is right...buy I suspect that chelski will demand some ridiculous fee
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: We Are Premier League on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power

1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.

32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power

1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.

32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.

I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.

He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 09, 2019, 12:19:36 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power

1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.

32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.

I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.

He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.

Babel was playing for the Dutch national team and Besiktas when we signed him, Gary Hooper couldn't get a game ahead of Steven Fletcher and Atdhe Nuhiu.

I'd rather try and sign players that the team we're getting them from don't want to get rid of them. We tried signing "surplus" players last summer and we ended up with Schurrle and Vietto.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on May 09, 2019, 10:55:21 PM
 :005: https://www.hammers.news/transfer-news/insider-west-ham-weigh-up-underwhelming-loan-move-for-fulham-flop-andre-schurrle/

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: aaronmcguigan on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power

1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.

32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.

I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.

He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.

Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's  Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 12:24:40 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power

1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.

32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.

I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.

He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.

Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's  Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example

We need depth upfront and in defence, we need a squad like ManCities in the championship. In a 46 game season we need three forwards starting, two on the bench and another three in the squad. We have to avoid having no forwards on the bench like against Huddersfield away. I would be pleased if Fonte, Gary Hooper and Kebano/Markovoic can be our 6th, 7th and 8th forwards next season, especially if the top five are Mitro, Sessegnon on loan, Babel/Dwight Gayle, Kamara and Atyie.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 12:30:40 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 12:24:40 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power

1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.

32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.

I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.

He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.

Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's  Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example

We need depth upfront and in defence. In a 46 game season we need three forwards starting, two on the bench and another two-three in the squad. We have to avoid having no forwards on the bench like against Huddersfield away. I would be pleased if Fonte, Gary Hooper and Kait can be our 6th, 7th and 8th forwards next season.

We need to know what system we're playing before we start thinking about squad depth and where we need said depth.We don't really know what system Parker favours (assuming he gets the job). We've played 4-2-3-1, 3-4-1-2, 3-4-3 and 5-3-2 with him so far.

Personally hope we keep relatively tight squad next season, 21 or 22 players for the 18 places in the matchday squad with a few youth players on the fringes. Should help with the team chemistry and I think Jokanovic especially struggled with having too many options this season, hence him changing the back four/five every game.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 01:36:44 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 12:30:40 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 12:24:40 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power

1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.

32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.

I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.

He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.

Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's  Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example

We need depth upfront and in defence. In a 46 game season we need three forwards starting, two on the bench and another two-three in the squad. We have to avoid having no forwards on the bench like against Huddersfield away. I would be pleased if Fonte, Gary Hooper and Kait can be our 6th, 7th and 8th forwards next season.

We need to know what system we're playing before we start thinking about squad depth and where we need said depth.We don't really know what system Parker favours (assuming he gets the job). We've played 4-2-3-1, 3-4-1-2, 3-4-3 and 5-3-2 with him so far.

Personally hope we keep relatively tight squad next season, 21 or 22 players for the 18 places in the matchday squad with a few youth players on the fringes. Should help with the team chemistry and I think Jokanovic especially struggled with having too many options this season, hence him changing the back four/five every game.

I think Tony Khan should give Scott Parker (or other Manager) a big pre-season of 25-30 squad capable of playing many formations (including 4 or 5 at the back). Scott Parker should then determine which players to release or loan out immediately, plus what extra reinforcements we need on deadline day (e.g. any injuries or players losing their legs) and then also who may leave in the winter window.

Slavisa was quite clear that he wanted a bigger squad, particularly another centre forward to cover Mitrovoic (and Slavisa proved correct 90 mins x 38 games is too much for Mitro). A lot of Fulhams problems last year was due to too smaller a squad, hence causing players to rush back from injury (Mawson, Ream, Bryan and Sessegnon) and players playing multiple positions (including MLM, Chambers, Sessegnon, Odoi, Cairney and Vietto).

If we had Targett, Kalas, Norwood, Ojo and Piazon this season, players would have specialised in their position (eg MLM at CB) and fully recovered from injury. I think Kalas would have been super useful this season, allowing Chambers to avoid playing three days after arriving at the club, allowing Odoi to be available for RB, LB or bench, allowing Mawson and Ream to recover more before playing and lastly allowing managers to play three at the back more often.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 01:53:47 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 01:36:44 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 12:30:40 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 12:24:40 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power

1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.

32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.

I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.

He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.

Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's  Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example

We need depth upfront and in defence. In a 46 game season we need three forwards starting, two on the bench and another two-three in the squad. We have to avoid having no forwards on the bench like against Huddersfield away. I would be pleased if Fonte, Gary Hooper and Kait can be our 6th, 7th and 8th forwards next season.

We need to know what system we're playing before we start thinking about squad depth and where we need said depth.We don't really know what system Parker favours (assuming he gets the job). We've played 4-2-3-1, 3-4-1-2, 3-4-3 and 5-3-2 with him so far.

Personally hope we keep relatively tight squad next season, 21 or 22 players for the 18 places in the matchday squad with a few youth players on the fringes. Should help with the team chemistry and I think Jokanovic especially struggled with having too many options this season, hence him changing the back four/five every game.

I think Tony Khan should give Scott Parker (or other Manager) a big pre-season of 25-30 squad capable of playing many formations (including 4 or 5 at the back). Scott Parker should then determine which players to release or loan out immediately, plus what extra reinforcements we need on deadline day (e.g. any injuries or players losing their legs) and then also who may leave in the winter window.

Slavisa was quite clear that he wanted a bigger squad, particularly another centre forward to cover Mitrovoic (and Slavisa proved correct 90 mins x 38 games is too much for Mitro). A lot of Fulhams problems last year was due to too smaller a squad, hence causing players to rush back from injury (Mawson, Ream, Bryan and Sessegnon) and players playing multiple positions (including MLM, Chambers, Sessegnon, Odoi, Cairney and Vietto).

If we had Targett, Kalas, Norwood, Ojo and Piazon this season, players would have specialised in their position (eg MLM at CB) and fully recovered from injury. I think Kalas would have been super useful this season, allowing Chambers to avoid playing three days after arriving at the club, allowing Odoi to be available for RB, LB or bench, allowing Mawson and Ream to recover more before playing and lastly allowing managers to play three at the back more often.

If the 25-30 includes players like Fossey, Drameh, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley etc. then fair enough, but I don't want us to have a bloated squad next season. Especially for players like Hooper who will be on decent wages and have no re-sell value. It's what's caused (ironically) Sheffield Wednesday FFP problems over the last couple of years and will most likely cause Stoke (and others) problems in the next year or two when they can't shift the players they want to.

I'd personally worked my "ideal" squad out (given who's likely to leave/who I want to leave)
GK: Bettinelli, Rodak
CB: Mawson, Le Marchand, New Signing (right-sided), Ream, S. Sessegnon
RB: New Signing, Drameh/Fossey (loan the other one out)
LB: Bryan, New Signing
DM: Zambo, New Signing, McDonald, New Signing (or just keep Cisse as 4th choice)
#10: Cairney, O'Riley (would even give Fonte a go in a couple of Pre-Season games just to see how he goes there)
Forwards: New Target Man, New Pressing Forward, New Winger, Ayite, Kebano

That would be the core squad I'd look to have (22 players, maybe Fonte makes it 23), and that doesn't include players like de la Torre, Elliott etc. who I'd have on the fringes/in for Cup games. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 03:01:34 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 01:53:47 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 01:36:44 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 12:30:40 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 12:24:40 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power

1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.

32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.

I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.

He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.

Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's  Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example

We need depth upfront and in defence. In a 46 game season we need three forwards starting, two on the bench and another two-three in the squad. We have to avoid having no forwards on the bench like against Huddersfield away. I would be pleased if Fonte, Gary Hooper and Kait can be our 6th, 7th and 8th forwards next season.

We need to know what system we're playing before we start thinking about squad depth and where we need said depth.We don't really know what system Parker favours (assuming he gets the job). We've played 4-2-3-1, 3-4-1-2, 3-4-3 and 5-3-2 with him so far.

Personally hope we keep relatively tight squad next season, 21 or 22 players for the 18 places in the matchday squad with a few youth players on the fringes. Should help with the team chemistry and I think Jokanovic especially struggled with having too many options this season, hence him changing the back four/five every game.

I think Tony Khan should give Scott Parker (or other Manager) a big pre-season of 25-30 squad capable of playing many formations (including 4 or 5 at the back). Scott Parker should then determine which players to release or loan out immediately, plus what extra reinforcements we need on deadline day (e.g. any injuries or players losing their legs) and then also who may leave in the winter window.

Slavisa was quite clear that he wanted a bigger squad, particularly another centre forward to cover Mitrovoic (and Slavisa proved correct 90 mins x 38 games is too much for Mitro). A lot of Fulhams problems last year was due to too smaller a squad, hence causing players to rush back from injury (Mawson, Ream, Bryan and Sessegnon) and players playing multiple positions (including MLM, Chambers, Sessegnon, Odoi, Cairney and Vietto).

If we had Targett, Kalas, Norwood, Ojo and Piazon this season, players would have specialised in their position (eg MLM at CB) and fully recovered from injury. I think Kalas would have been super useful this season, allowing Chambers to avoid playing three days after arriving at the club, allowing Odoi to be available for RB, LB or bench, allowing Mawson and Ream to recover more before playing and lastly allowing managers to play three at the back more often.

If the 25-30 includes players like Fossey, Drameh, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley etc. then fair enough, but I don't want us to have a bloated squad next season. Especially for players like Hooper who will be on decent wages and have no re-sell value. It's what's caused (ironically) Sheffield Wednesday FFP problems over the last couple of years and will most likely cause Stoke (and others) problems in the next year or two when they can't shift the players they want to.

I'd personally worked my "ideal" squad out (given who's likely to leave/who I want to leave)
GK: Bettinelli, Rodak
CB: Mawson, Le Marchand, New Signing (right-sided), Ream, S. Sessegnon
RB: New Signing, Drameh/Fossey (loan the other one out)
LB: Bryan, New Signing
DM: Zambo, New Signing, McDonald, New Signing (or just keep Cisse as 4th choice)
#10: Cairney, O'Riley (would even give Fonte a go in a couple of Pre-Season games just to see how he goes there)
Forwards: New Target Man, New Pressing Forward, New Winger, Ayite, Kebano

That would be the core squad I'd look to have (22 players, maybe Fonte makes it 23), and that doesn't include players like de la Torre, Elliott etc. who I'd have on the fringes/in for Cup games.

I see your suggesting keeping Betts, Fossey, Mawson, MLM, Bryan, Zambo, McDonald, Cairney, Atyie, Fonte and Kebano, so the whole plan is based on the assumption that the DoF signing a RB, RCB, LB, DM, RW, CF and LW wisely. That's a Big Assumption!

I would prefer that DoF keeps the players and buys a big squad too; and Parker trims down the squad as required during pre-season. My assumption is half the players that the DoF gets fit into the current team and the rest with good stats have resale and loan value.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 10, 2019, 04:06:28 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 08, 2019, 07:15:45 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 08, 2019, 05:44:00 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.

I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
like to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!

You are of course right hovewhite, the stats recruitment dudes will continue to misfire because stats is fools gold.
Stats are wrong, and the managers are right.

"Managers are Right" means Rafa Bentitz selling Mitro was right and Gary Bowyer selling Cairney was right. Before we had DoFs, most deals were agreed by two managers, one was normally right and one was normally wrong.

Statistics prove that Stats are always wrong. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 06:51:18 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 03:01:34 AM

I see your suggesting keeping Betts, Fossey, Mawson, MLM, Bryan, Zambo, McDonald, Cairney, Atyie, Fonte and Kebano, so the whole plan is based on the assumption that the DoF signing a RB, RCB, LB, DM, RW, CF and LW wisely. That's a Big Assumption!

I would prefer that DoF keeps the players and buys a big squad too; and Parker trims down the squad as required during pre-season. My assumption is half the players that the DoF gets fit into the current team and the rest with good stats have resale and loan value.

I am not sure I am following. Do you want us to try to buy as many players as possible early on in the summer, and then get rid of a good chunk of those same players later on in the same transfer window after SP has assessed them? Or do you only want to take on trialists? The former case seem difficult since either you have to sell it to the players (and why would anyone join if you tell them that you may want to get rid of them in 6 weeks, unless you pay them an absolute fortune), and the latter case wouldn't be likely to bring in much quality (since proven quality players would not want to join on a trial). By the way, can a player even be subject to two permanent transfers during the same window, or would we be completely reliant on the loan system?

Or do you mean that we should keep a huge squad with a chunk of players being kept from playing at all?

Do you care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 07:15:43 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 06:51:18 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 03:01:34 AM

I see your suggesting keeping Betts, Fossey, Mawson, MLM, Bryan, Zambo, McDonald, Cairney, Atyie, Fonte and Kebano, so the whole plan is based on the assumption that the DoF signing a RB, RCB, LB, DM, RW, CF and LW wisely. That's a Big Assumption!

I would prefer that DoF keeps the players and buys a big squad too; and Parker trims down the squad as required during pre-season. My assumption is half the players that the DoF gets fit into the current team and the rest with good stats have resale and loan value.

I am not sure I am following. Do you want us to try to buy as many players as possible early on in the summer, and then get rid of a good chunk of those same players later on in the same transfer window after SP has assessed them? Or do you only want to take on trialists? The former case seem difficult since either you have to sell it to the players (and why would anyone join if you tell them that you may want to get rid of them in 6 weeks, unless you pay them an absolute fortune), and the latter case wouldn't be likely to bring in much quality (since proven quality players would not want to join on a trial). By the way, can a player even be subject to two permanent transfers during the same window, or would we be completely reliant on the loan system?

Or do you mean that we should keep a huge squad with a chunk of players being kept from playing at all?

Do you care to elaborate?

Well, a sensible mix of both, firstly a lot of the squad depth won't cost a lot because a championship bench warmer (like Cisse or Edun) is not super expensive especially if you loan them out again. For starters we don't need get anyone in for goalkeeper or left centre back, but we probably would be wise to have a decent pre-season squad.

I think our ideal squad size for pre-season should be at least Manchester City size plus three players, then release the weakest three on loan to the championship or league one. We are better off buying 5 x £2m signings (like McDonald, Norwood and Johasen) then loaning those that don't cut it, than getting one big name £10m signing.

I am suggesting keeping players like Cisse, Edun, Riley, McDonald, Johasen, Seri, Zambo and Cairney, plus maybe an addition until we finalise the starting XI and have proven reserves. I think we have one chance to go up and don't believe in selling players now, but also adding at the same time. We obviously have to do what is financial possible, but too big a squad is a problem Parker can live with now and solve after 2, 6 or 12 months in the Championship.

The reason I say this is I can almost guarantee the pre-season and first few games leads to some players being sub-par what Parker expects, the last two seasons we were desperate for reinforcement by the winter transfer window, it's good to have a few players extra in the squad especially in a new league with 46 games per season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on May 10, 2019, 07:25:17 AM
So no actual gossip on players!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:39:42 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 07:15:43 AM

Well, a sensible mix of both, firstly a lot of the squad depth won't cost a lot because a championship bench warmer is not super expensive especially if you loan them out again. For starters we don't need get anyone in for goalkeeper or left centre back, but we probably would be wise to have a decent pre-season squad. I think our ideal squad size for pre-season should be at least Manchester City size plus three players, then release three on loan. We are better off buying 5 x £2m signings (like McDonald, Norwood and Johasen) then loaning those that don't cut it, than getting one big name £10m signing.

I am suggesting keeping players like Cisse, Edun, Riley, McDonald, Johasen, Seri, Zambo and Cairney, plus maybe an addition until we finalise the starting XI and have proven reserves. I think we have one chance to go up and don't believe in selling players now, but also adding at the same time. We obviously have to do what is financial possible, but too big a squad is a problem Parker can live with now and solve after 2, 6 or 12 months in the Championship.

Why Manchester City size in particular? I can see that they have used 21 players in the PL this season, and their full squad (not counting youngsters without playing time, but counting Foden and Zinchenko since they have been playing) seem to be 23 players.

Bettinelli, Fabri, Rodak
Christie, Odoi, Bryan, Ream, Mawson, MLM
McDonald, Cisse, Anguissa, Seri, Johansen, Cairney
Mitrovic, Fonte, Ayite, Kebano, R. Sess, Kamara

That is 21 players that should be regarded at the very least decent squad players for the Championship (because of the lack of evidence of capacity Djalo is not included) that we have on our books currently assuming we take up club options. Add to that at least a few of S.Sess, O'Riley, Elliot, De La Torre, Fossey, Djalo should be bale to compete for a spot on the bench.

We don't have a weak squad currently, and I maintain that we basically only need to replace those we sell/loan out for one reason or another. Therefore, I don't believe we have to both keep players AND buy a bunch of new ones as we have a decent size squad on our books.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:41:21 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on May 10, 2019, 07:25:17 AM
So no actual gossip on players!!

This is the thread that is allowed to go slightly off topic. Then there is the thread only containing rumors without discussion. I would assume there will be more rumors once the season is over.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on May 10, 2019, 07:43:43 AM
Lose Fonte, Kebano and Cisse.

Add a new winger and right back.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:41:21 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on May 10, 2019, 07:25:17 AM
So no actual gossip on players!!

This is the thread that is allowed to go slightly off topic. Then there is the thread only containing rumors without discussion. I would assume there will be more rumors once the season is over.

Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:46:50 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM

Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.

Point taken, reduced the size of the last one. I believe it can often be beneficial to at least quote the part you are responding to.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:58:14 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:46:50 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM

Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.

Point taken, reduced the size of the last one. I believe it can often be beneficial to at least quote the part you are responding to.

Yes quote the person your replying to is fine,but we end up sometimes with 4 or 5 quotes on top of one another..lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on May 10, 2019, 08:34:12 AM
Mince said "Yes quote the person your replying to is fine,but we end up sometimes with 4 or 5 quotes on top of one another..lol"

I agree with this mince  0001.jpeg lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 10, 2019, 09:14:26 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 12:30:40 AM
We need to know what system we're playing before we start thinking about squad depth and where we need said depth.We don't really know what system Parker favours (assuming he gets the job). We've played 4-2-3-1, 3-4-1-2, 3-4-3 and 5-3-2 with him so far.

He's been pretty consistent lately. I suspect we can all accurately predict what the formation will be on Sunday. 4-3-3 (although the tactics nerds may call it a 4-2-1-2-1 or something) which is the same tactics we've played in the main for 2 years now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: colinwhite on May 10, 2019, 10:02:02 AM
weve been playing 4231
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on May 10, 2019, 10:19:24 AM
Sess posted:

"OMG wow wow wow!"

On the Tottenham celebratory Instagram posts last night.

A few people jumped on it and told him to "Make it less obvious you're leaving".

I think that's a bit premature and harsh personally! Reading too much into it in my opinion.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 10:21:27 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on May 10, 2019, 10:02:02 AM
weve been playing 4231

Which you may as well describe as 433, or 451 or 42121 as Statto mentioned. It doesn't really make a difference, since they are just ways to describe the general set up of the team, while in reality is is often fairly fluid depending on how the game goes on. It is clear for example that we don't usually play with a back 5, but it is less clear whether you would call Sess a midfielder or a forward
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 10, 2019, 10:36:02 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on May 10, 2019, 10:02:02 AM
weve been playing 4231

I'm not going to argue about what you call it because it all means the same.

No doubt some will sit there holding a ruler on the tele when they're watching MOTD and try to work out whether Sessegnon and Babel are in line with Mitrovic (4-2-1-3) or Cairney (4-2-3-1) or in between the two (4-2-1-2-1). Then someone else with another ruler will point out that Anguissa is slightly in front of Chambers so it should be 4-1-1-1-2-1.

In my day you only had a handful of formations to choose from and they all had 3 numbers - 4-4-2, 4-3-3, etc.

For the avoidance of argument, perhaps in future, instead of saying "4-3-3" I'll just say "an unspecified formation featuring a back four, three in central midfield, and three wingers/strikers"
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on May 10, 2019, 10:48:13 AM
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 10:36:02 AM
For the avoidance of argument, perhaps in future, instead of saying "4-3-3" I'll just say "an unspecified formation featuring a back four, three in central midfield, and three wingers/strikers"

If you could please and thank you.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on May 10, 2019, 10:57:41 AM
Rather than 433,4231 etc how about a fluid formation.........
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 03:06:20 PM
Talkadoodle radio saying we're after a cheap replacement for Mitro,Doncaster striker John Marquis.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tooting legend on May 10, 2019, 04:05:20 PM
Harry Ater strongly linked to a move to the Cottage, Parker being his brother in law helps.......
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on May 10, 2019, 05:54:32 PM
Quote from: Tooting legend on May 10, 2019, 04:05:20 PM
Harry Ater strongly linked to a move to the Cottage, Parker being his brother in law helps.......
Could see a similar role to Norwood if it does come off.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nick Bateman on May 10, 2019, 08:14:40 PM
All this sale of star striker Mitrovic for £30million to a lesser (not glamour) PL side for barely more than we paid for him is sheer bunkum, tommyrot and balderdash touted mainly by the Daily Express.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: I Ronic on May 10, 2019, 08:22:10 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on May 10, 2019, 08:14:40 PM
All this sale of star striker Mitrovic for £30million to a lesser (not glamour) PL side for barely more than we paid for him is sheer bunkum, tommyrot and balderdash touted mainly by the Daily Express.

You've been reading your "What Ho Jeeves" books again haven't you! You little tyke.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on May 11, 2019, 07:13:37 AM
Ryan will be imo be gone by the time we start our campaign in the champion.  In an interview with he Sun and his brother he says about his links with top clubs "Personally, I am still a Fulham player until 2020 but, of course, my aim is to play at the highest level.

I am not sure where the future will take me but I have always wanted to play regular Premier League football.

If a club comes knocking with assurances of game time he will go buy I just hope we can get a good amount of money for him and a sell in percentage
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on May 11, 2019, 07:59:10 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:58:14 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:46:50 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM

Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.

Point taken, reduced the size of the last one. I believe it can often be beneficial to at least quote the part you are responding to.

Yes quote the person your replying to is fine,but we end up sometimes with 4 or 5 quotes on top of one another..lol

Thats a very good point
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 11, 2019, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on May 11, 2019, 07:59:10 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:58:14 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:46:50 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM

Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.

Point taken, reduced the size of the last one. I believe it can often be beneficial to at least quote the part you are responding to.

Yes quote the person your replying to is fine,but we end up sometimes with 4 or 5 quotes on top of one another..lol

Thats a very good point

I agree
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: One Martin Thomas on May 11, 2019, 09:54:50 AM
£30m & Shane Long and I would do a deal with Southampton! Anyone else?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on May 11, 2019, 10:22:01 AM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on May 11, 2019, 09:54:50 AM
£30m & Shane Long and I would do a deal with Southampton! Anyone else?

No Shane Long has scoree as many goals in the PL in 3 Seasons as Mitro has in 1, we need a goal Scorer rather take Austin if we Mitro wants t leave
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on May 11, 2019, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 03:06:20 PM
Talkadoodle radio saying we're after a cheap replacement for Mitro,Doncaster striker John Marquis.

Have they ever got anything Fulham related right. Genuinely think there wrong with every Fulham transfer rumour
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on May 14, 2019, 06:34:05 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p


Very interesting balanced read, going to look up the players I don't know.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on May 14, 2019, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on May 14, 2019, 06:34:05 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p


Very interesting balanced read, going to look up the players I don't know.

Agreed, really solid read and balanced thinking. Enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Denver Fulham on May 15, 2019, 05:14:58 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on May 11, 2019, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 03:06:20 PM
Talkadoodle radio saying we're after a cheap replacement for Mitro,Doncaster striker John Marquis.

Have they ever got anything Fulham related right. Genuinely think there wrong with every Fulham transfer rumour

Everyone on here complains that Fulham don't make marquis signings, and then complains when we're linked to one?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on May 15, 2019, 06:44:07 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p

Really like what I've read about Nazim Sangare...which means we won't get him. :016:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on May 15, 2019, 01:39:58 PM
Back in day Fulham used to announce a good quality free transfer signing, like Mark Schwartzer or Zoltan Gera, just after the season ended to boost season ticket sales and show that little bit of intent.

I see that has stopped since the Khan's took over. Extending an exisiting player's contract by 12 month hardly has the same effect.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on May 15, 2019, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p

Really enjoyed reading this. Thank you.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 15, 2019, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on May 15, 2019, 06:44:07 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p

Really like what I've read about Nazim Sangare...which means we won't get him. :016:

Fun fact about Sangare. He most likely would have been called up to the Turkey Squad in March, but Senol Gunes didn't realise he was Turkish.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on May 15, 2019, 06:19:36 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 15, 2019, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on May 15, 2019, 06:44:07 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p

Really like what I've read about Nazim Sangare...which means we won't get him. :016:

Fun fact about Sangare. He most likely would have been called up to the Turkey Squad in March, but Senol Gunes didn't realise he was Turkish.

Think we found our new Dof then
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 18, 2019, 12:05:50 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p

To add to this, a few of the names I was looking at but didn't end up putting them in my final Draft whether it be because I thought they'd be unrealistic or just there was better options (my long list if you will) are;
Andre Ramalho (CB, RB Salzburg)
Jonas Ramalho (CB, Girona- currently out of contract at the end of June)
Emir Dilaver (CB, Dinamo Zagreb)
Moussa Wague (RB, Barcelona)
Andrei Girotto (CM, Nantes)
Cheick Doukoure (CM, Levante)
Lebogang Phiri (CM, Guingamp)
Mislav Orsic (LW, Dinamo Zagreb)
Brandley Kuwas (RW, Heracles)
Andreas Skov Olsen (RW, Nordsjaelland)
Ivan Cavaleiro (RW, Wolves)
Mbwana Samatta (ST, Genk)

Just a few more names for consideration.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 18, 2019, 06:05:33 AM
Adam lallana?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on May 18, 2019, 06:47:02 AM
Quote from: Statto on May 11, 2019, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on May 11, 2019, 07:59:10 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:58:14 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:46:50 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM

Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.

Point taken, reduced the size of the last one. I believe it can often be beneficial to at least quote the part you are responding to.

Yes quote the person your replying to is fine,but we end up sometimes with 4 or 5 quotes on top of one another..lol

Thats a very good point

I agree

I am pleased you agree
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on May 18, 2019, 06:44:14 PM
Bournemouth got the ball rolling 13 mill for young Bristol City defender. See business can be done early.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on May 19, 2019, 02:14:17 AM
Moussa Wague (RB, Barcelona) would be a nice loan prospect from Barcelona.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 19, 2019, 04:13:36 AM
We had a bad season with injuries at the back and middle, but much less injuries upfront and wide.

Most concerning is will we replace the wide players

Players that won't be here that contributed 39 goals and 34 assists from 17/18 on
Sessegnon (LW) 18 goals and 14 assists over two seasons
Fredricks (RB) 0 goals and 7 assists in 17/18
Babel (LW) 5 goals and 3 assists in 18/19
Schullre (LW) 6 goals and 0 assists in 18/19
Vietto (RW) 1 goal and 4 assists in 18/19
Piazon (RW) 5 goals and 4 assists in 17/18
Ojo (RW) 4 goals and 2 assists in 17/18

We need a bunch of replacements for lost RB, RW and LW, plus Mitro needs a backup CF.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: EricB on May 19, 2019, 11:19:45 PM
Gayle not going to WBA, maybe coming to London? We have been linked before

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48316397
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 20, 2019, 12:31:12 AM
Quote from: EricB on May 19, 2019, 11:19:45 PM
Gayle not going to WBA, maybe coming to London? We have been linked before

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48316397

+1 get Dwight Gayle for the striker and left winger. He is exactly what we need to replace Sessegnon and backup Mitrovoic.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on May 20, 2019, 08:37:38 AM
Gayle is good but I`d rather spend Sess` money on someone younger like Jarrod Bowen.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on May 20, 2019, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on May 20, 2019, 08:37:38 AM
Gayle is good but I`d rather spend Sess` money on someone younger like Jarrod Bowen.
We are going to have to replace more than just Sess., so we may have to spread the Sess money thinly, I would expect it to buy at  two or three top class championship attackers.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deuce on May 21, 2019, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on May 20, 2019, 08:37:38 AM
Gayle is good but I`d rather spend Sess` money on someone younger like Jarrod Bowen.
I would love Bowen but he wont stay in the Championship. Destined for PL surely
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on May 21, 2019, 08:33:53 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p

What are these O'Riley rumours? Stated in April that he has intentions of fighting for starting place next season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on May 21, 2019, 08:35:41 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on May 20, 2019, 08:37:38 AM
Gayle is good but I`d rather spend Sess` money on someone younger like Jarrod Bowen.

Gayle, with our spending capabilities, will take up a fraction of our budget. £10m max for a 29 yr old who is yet to be proven good enough for the PL.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on May 21, 2019, 08:59:24 AM
According to Fulham Stuff by White Noise today,

Fulham are eyeing a move for Middlesbrough striker Britt Assombalonga to fire them back to the Premier League, Football Insider understands.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on May 21, 2019, 09:45:33 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on May 21, 2019, 08:59:24 AM
According to Fulham Stuff by White Noise today,

Fulham are eyeing a move for Middlesbrough striker Britt Assombalonga to fire them back to the Premier League, Football Insider understands.


Sheff Utd interested as well, the temptation of the premier league maybe to great 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on May 21, 2019, 10:54:39 AM
Big IF, but if we lose Mitrovic, I'd go all out to sign Austin as his replacement. Surplus to requirement at Siants and told he can leave. Would be an ideal and cheaper swap. I'd rather keep Mitrovic but I can't shake the feeling that we'll lose him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 21, 2019, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: Nero on May 21, 2019, 09:45:33 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on May 21, 2019, 08:59:24 AM
According to Fulham Stuff by White Noise today,

Fulham are eyeing a move for Middlesbrough striker Britt Assombalonga to fire them back to the Premier League, Football Insider understands.


Sheff Utd interested as well, the temptation of the premier league maybe to great 

Please NO.....Carthorse.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on May 21, 2019, 12:07:49 PM
Assombalonga is a guaranteed 15-20 goals per season player at Championship level. Good player. Would also fit in well with our other African lads - Kebano, Ayite, Anguissa and Kamara (and Seri in the unlikely event he stays).

Not good enough to replace Mitro but a great back option, and another option out wide.

Only issue is I suspect he'll want to be our first choice CF wherever he goes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on May 21, 2019, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 21, 2019, 12:07:49 PM
Assombalonga is a guaranteed 15-20 goals per season player at Championship level. Good player. Would also fit in well with our other African lads - Kebano, Ayite, Anguissa and Kamara (and Seri in the unlikely event he stays).

Not good enough to replace Mitro but a great back option, and another option out wide.

Only issue is I suspect he'll want to be our first choice CF wherever he goes.

Mitro and Assombalonga up top together. We'll break 100 points.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on May 21, 2019, 01:49:43 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on May 21, 2019, 10:54:39 AM
Big IF, but if we lose Mitrovic, I'd go all out to sign Austin as his replacement. Surplus to requirement at Siants and told he can leave. Would be an ideal and cheaper swap. I'd rather keep Mitrovic but I can't shake the feeling that we'll lose him.

Maybe Parker doesn't want an exact replacement. Personally, having a hold up striker limits your play. You get by if they are very good, but if we were to lose Mitro, I'd like to see us abandon the hold up focal point, and have more of a fluid front 3.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on May 21, 2019, 01:59:19 PM

[/quote]

Maybe Parker doesn't want an exact replacement. Personally, having a hold up striker limits your play. You get by if they are very good, but if we were to lose Mitro, I'd like to see us abandon the hold up focal point, and have more of a fluid front 3.
[/quote]

Agree
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on May 21, 2019, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 21, 2019, 01:49:43 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on May 21, 2019, 10:54:39 AM
Big IF, but if we lose Mitrovic, I'd go all out to sign Austin as his replacement. Surplus to requirement at Siants and told he can leave. Would be an ideal and cheaper swap. I'd rather keep Mitrovic but I can't shake the feeling that we'll lose him.

Maybe Parker doesn't want an exact replacement. Personally, having a hold up striker limits your play. You get by if they are very good, but if we were to lose Mitro, I'd like to see us abandon the hold up focal point, and have more of a fluid front 3.

Hold up play aside, we still need a goalscorer regardless and he definitely fits the bill.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 21, 2019, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 21, 2019, 08:33:53 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p

What are these O'Riley rumours? Stated in April that he has intentions of fighting for starting place next season.

Seen a few things that have said things to the effect of we've told O'Riley we won't play him until he drops his agent because he's messing us around. Hence why he wasn't in our 18 or even involved with the first team squad towards the end of the season when Fossey, S. Sessegnon, de la Torre and Elliott were.

I don't know how true it is, but it would explain why he's not been close to the first team when he's probably our best player in the 21s in-terms of ability.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Buffalo76 on May 21, 2019, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on May 20, 2019, 08:37:38 AM
Gayle is good but I`d rather spend Sess` money on someone younger like Jarrod Bowen.




:plus one:

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on May 23, 2019, 04:37:49 PM
NUFC linked with Joe Bryan

https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-newcastle-plot-move-to-sign-6m-fulham-player-wanted-by-benitez/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on May 23, 2019, 07:10:17 PM
https://www.wolvesbite.com/2019/05/cav-targeted-by-fulham-as-rondon-chase-hots-up/

Yes, yes, yes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GJB on May 23, 2019, 07:56:23 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 23, 2019, 07:10:17 PM
https://www.wolvesbite.com/2019/05/cav-targeted-by-fulham-as-rondon-chase-hots-up/

Yes, yes, yes.

+1
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Texas White on May 23, 2019, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: GJB on May 23, 2019, 07:56:23 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 23, 2019, 07:10:17 PM
https://www.wolvesbite.com/2019/05/cav-targeted-by-fulham-as-rondon-chase-hots-up/

Yes, yes, yes.

Yes from me

+1
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on May 23, 2019, 09:41:51 PM
Fabian Delph can leave Citeh for 15 mill.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on May 23, 2019, 10:15:00 PM
Apparently there is some new(ish) rule about the number of home grown players in your match day squad in the championship, can't remember if that was the case when we were last playing there
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 23, 2019, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: junior white on May 23, 2019, 10:15:00 PM
Apparently there is some new(ish) rule about the number of home grown players in your match day squad in the championship, can't remember if that was the case when we were last playing there

Nope, its a new rule introduced in 18/19. FFC had between five to seven homegrown players in the squad the games named last season 18/19. I think the new rule will mean Rodak not Fabri will be the number two goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deuce on May 24, 2019, 07:34:29 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 23, 2019, 07:10:17 PM
https://www.wolvesbite.com/2019/05/cav-targeted-by-fulham-as-rondon-chase-hots-up/

Yes, yes, yes.
"Cavaleiro is a potential replacement for the Serbia international." :D

But yes, I liked the rumour of us wanting Cavaleiro last time out. Wolves are rapidly transforming into a bigger club than just a couple of years ago and will surely be a top half club next season, and Wolves are cleraly out growing some of their players. This would be a good time to look for some decent players (ie Cavaleiro) that they'll offload in favour of signing new, better players.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on May 24, 2019, 10:31:55 AM
Would love Cavaleiro. Prem level winger. 9 goals 13 assists last time Wolves were in the Champ. Exciting player to watch and gets the fans on their feet taking men on.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 24, 2019, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: Deuce on May 24, 2019, 07:34:29 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 23, 2019, 07:10:17 PM
Yes, yes, yes.
"Cavaleiro is a potential replacement for the Serbia international." :D


Ivan Cavaleiro, with 22 goals total in the last 5 seasons (but plenty of assists); he is an excellent replacement for the Serbia international Lazar Marković.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on May 24, 2019, 12:00:51 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 23, 2019, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: junior white on May 23, 2019, 10:15:00 PM
Apparently there is some new(ish) rule about the number of home grown players in your match day squad in the championship, can't remember if that was the case when we were last playing there

Nope, its a new rule introduced in 18/19. FFC had between five to seven homegrown players in the squad the games named last season 18/19. I think the new rule will mean Rodak not Fabri will be the number two goalkeeper.
so new the season just gone?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on May 28, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Rumour that Cardiff trying to sign Lewis Holtby
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on May 28, 2019, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: junior white on May 28, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Rumour that Cardiff trying to sign Lewis Holtby

If we didn't have O'Riley and Elliot as Cairney back up, I'd quite like to resign him. But I'd rather focus on the youth over another older player.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on May 28, 2019, 12:45:33 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 28, 2019, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: junior white on May 28, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Rumour that Cardiff trying to sign Lewis Holtby

If we didn't have O'Riley and Elliot as Cairney back up, I'd quite like to resign him. But I'd rather focus on the youth over another older player.
Agree, just putting it on the thread for info
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fernhurst on May 28, 2019, 12:52:20 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on May 24, 2019, 10:31:55 AM
Would love Cavaleiro. Prem level winger. 9 goals 13 assists last time Wolves were in the Champ. Exciting player to watch and gets the fans on their feet taking men on.

With Ritchie on the other side............ Potent !
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on June 03, 2019, 07:42:40 PM
What do we all think about this bloke from Dijon?

He is a mus-start (mustard?) for me.

There's a joke there somewhere
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Vinnieffc on June 03, 2019, 07:45:29 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 28, 2019, 07:52:34 PM
Personally I think they are a flaming nuisance.
Print them out. Helps start the BBQ


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on June 03, 2019, 07:47:11 PM
Cardiff City have rejected an £8m bid from Aston Villa for goalkeeper Neil Etheridge.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on June 03, 2019, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: Milo on June 03, 2019, 07:42:40 PM
What do we all think about this bloke from Dijon?

He is a mus-start (mustard?) for me.

There's a joke there somewhere

Pretty good player, full international with world cup experience for Tunisia. I cannot see how he wouldn't be welcomed other than the sheer fact he's another Ligue 1 player, with no championship experience again. He's done wonders this season and pretty much kept Dijon from being relegated. I haven't watched much of him except for the match he played against Lille (as I've been keeping tabs on Rui Fonte), and he was the standout player for Dijon. Always finds the right pass, gets out of trouble, and takes risks going forward. Dijon play him in a #10/playmaker position, but he's got the capability to play in advanced positions on the wing. Not a Babel replacement by any means in terms of pace and strength.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 03, 2019, 11:51:50 PM
He's better centrally than out wide. Would (in my opinion) be similar to when we signed Jozabed in that him and Cairney would be stepping on each others toes if we tried to play them together.

Plus he'll be going to AFCON with Tunisia so wouldn't be available to us for the first couple of weeks of Pre-Season (and if Tunisia go all the way all of it), he's a good player but I wouldn't be that keen on him.

(and the only link I've seen with Sliti as far as I can tell is from a Twitter account from a supposed journalist with 24 followers and 8 tweets- so I'm not even sure why it got picked up and added to the Silly Season thread.)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Asotosyios on June 03, 2019, 11:59:43 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on June 03, 2019, 07:47:11 PM
Cardiff City have rejected an £8m bid from Aston Villa for goalkeeper Neil Etheridge.

As per Sky Sports' Transfer Centre:

'ETHERIDGE BID REJECTED'

Newly-promoted Aston Villa have had an £8m offer for Cardiff City goalkeeper Neil Etheridge rejected, according to the Daily Mail.

Cardiff reportedly want over £10m for the 29-year old and have already turned down another similar bid from Championship rivals Fulham.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 04, 2019, 06:02:52 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 28, 2019, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: junior white on May 28, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Rumour that Cardiff trying to sign Lewis Holtby

If we didn't have O'Riley and Elliot as Cairney back up, I'd quite like to resign him. But I'd rather focus on the youth over another older player.

O'Riley and Elliot are great options off the bench, but they aren't ready to start 2 games per week if Cairney is injured. Don't kid yourself Lewis Holtby will probably be a better player than either O'Riley or Elliot for the next 12 months.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fernhurst on June 04, 2019, 06:51:32 AM
Cavaleiro and Etheridge


Like these kinda rumours  :54:  :54:

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 04, 2019, 07:21:57 AM
I liked Lewis Holtby, just the kind of player Fulham are bereft of.He is a Talisman and makes things happen.
Also he is the kind of character that we are short of,and his presence and personality will lift the dressing room, he has plenty of experience and is real busy player, I wish there were another half dozen like him in  Fulhams dressing room.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 04, 2019, 07:27:06 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 04, 2019, 07:21:57 AM
I liked Lewis Holtby, just the kind of player Fulham are bereft of.He is a Talisman and makes things happen.
Also he is the kind of character that we are short of,and his presence and personality will lift the dressing room, he has plenty of experience and is real busy player, I wish there were another half dozen like him in  Fulhams dressing room.
agree lacking a mental toughness for sure woolly.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 04, 2019, 07:46:45 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 04, 2019, 06:02:52 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 28, 2019, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: junior white on May 28, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Rumour that Cardiff trying to sign Lewis Holtby

If we didn't have O'Riley and Elliot as Cairney back up, I'd quite like to resign him. But I'd rather focus on the youth over another older player.

O'Riley and Elliot are great options off the bench, but they aren't ready to start 2 games per week if Cairney is injured. Don't kid yourself Lewis Holtby will probably be a better player than either O'Riley or Elliot for the next 12 months.

Yes, but he will also be much, much more expensive and would be an unnecessary acquisition if Cairney is fit. If we are going to bring in the big earners, I don't think this is the position to do it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 04, 2019, 08:03:33 AM
A mate is a gunners fan and he reckons we could get Chambers back.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ffc73 on June 04, 2019, 08:42:04 AM
Chambers reminds me of McCormack. Delighted for their contribution whilst with us but neither right for a successful team & we are better without them

Chambers. Brought in as a CB & failed. Moved to RB & woeful. A success in mid field but IMO he is never a starting midfielder in a successful team.

If we want a 'Chris Baird' utility man then save our money as Denis can do that role
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on June 04, 2019, 09:10:34 AM
Quote from: FFC73 on June 04, 2019, 08:42:04 AM
Chambers reminds me of McCormack. Delighted for their contribution whilst with us but neither right for a successful team & we are better without them

Chambers. Brought in as a CB & failed. Moved to RB & woeful. A success in mid field but IMO he is never a starting midfielder in a successful team.

If we want a 'Chris Baird' utility man then save our money as Denis can do that role

I think it's harsh to say he failed as a RB he played there once when we never had the same back 5 for a whole match let alone consecutive games. In a stable side he would have done better. So much better as a CDM tho'
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: RaySmith on June 04, 2019, 10:28:22 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on June 04, 2019, 07:27:06 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 04, 2019, 07:21:57 AM
I liked Lewis Holtby, just the kind of player Fulham are bereft of.He is a Talisman and makes things happen.
Also he is the kind of character that we are short of,and his presence and personality will lift the dressing room, he has plenty of experience and is real busy player, I wish there were another half dozen like him in  Fulhams dressing room.
agree lacking a mental toughness for sure woolly.

I really liked him when he was with us, shame he was only on loan.

Just listening to one of the Peter Crouch podcasts on the BBC site, talking of training with Gerrard at Liverpool - he would fizz passes to you full pace in training, and you'd  better control them or else.  Crouch said that he  saw the advantages of this in games,  when  the team broke quickly,  knocking the ball around, cutting through the opposition, with no one losing control.
But the point he was making  was that all top teams  have these kind of tough characters - they demand the very best of themselves, and those around them, and that is why they are successful.

They have a mental strength as well as being top players - though they make themselves top players by their  attitude.

Fulham could  definitely do with some players like this. Though Parker may have this type of winning mentality.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on June 04, 2019, 11:46:36 AM
Is Harry Arter like that?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 04, 2019, 12:26:38 PM
Seems a strange rumour as Bryan is doing so well, unless those Newcastle rumours are true.

Fulham have revived their interest in Southampton's Matt Targett, Sky Sports News understands.

The Saints still see a future for Targett at their club and it is understood only a significant offer would convince them to enter discussions.

The 23-year-old left-back was instrumental on loan at Fulham when they were promoted to the Premier League in 2018.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 12:36:24 PM
Quote from: Art Vandelay on June 04, 2019, 12:26:38 PM
Seems a strange rumour as Bryan is doing so well, unless those Newcastle rumours are true.

Fulham have revived their interest in Southampton's Matt Targett, Sky Sports News understands.

The Saints still see a future for Targett at their club and it is understood only a significant offer would convince them to enter discussions.

The 23-year-old left-back was instrumental on loan at Fulham when they were promoted to the Premier League in 2018.

As much as I'd love this to be true, I can't see him coming down again. He's a EPL quality full back and will only get better now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on June 04, 2019, 12:43:36 PM
What if we got Target and Bryan was moved further forward?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 12:46:28 PM
That would be my take on things especially if Sess goes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Texas White on June 04, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
Not liking some of these rumors about Bryan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: Texas White on June 04, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
Not liking some of these rumors about Bryan.

What rumours?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 04, 2019, 01:16:50 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: Texas White on June 04, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
Not liking some of these rumors about Bryan.

What rumours?

The rumor I've heard is that Newcastle are after him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: Art Vandelay on June 04, 2019, 01:16:50 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: Texas White on June 04, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
Not liking some of these rumors about Bryan.

What rumours?

The rumor I've heard is that Newcastle are after him.

Oh, i'd be quite surprised if that is the case. He's been a bit like our Targett in recent windows so probably rehashed rubbish.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Burt on June 04, 2019, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: Art Vandelay on June 04, 2019, 01:16:50 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: Texas White on June 04, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
Not liking some of these rumors about Bryan.

What rumours?

The rumor I've heard is that Newcastle are after him.

Oh, i'd be quite surprised if that is the case. He's been a bit like our Targett in recent windows so probably rehashed rubbish.

This was reported a few days ago in the Northern Echo and the online responses to the article weren't exactly positive!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: I Ronic on June 04, 2019, 03:16:20 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on June 04, 2019, 12:43:36 PM
What if we got Target and Bryan was moved further forward?

Or further north. I think Targetts better, personally.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 03:17:28 PM
Quote from: I Ronic on June 04, 2019, 03:16:20 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on June 04, 2019, 12:43:36 PM
What if we got Target and Bryan was moved further forward?

Or further north. I think Targetts better, personally.

I do think its marginal but I'm of the same opinion. I don't think Targett would take a climb down to championship personally, but who knows.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulham traveller on June 04, 2019, 03:49:47 PM
I can't see target dropping down
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.

See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Camel Club on June 04, 2019, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.

According to Sky Sports News (which is more reliable than most) we are apparently interested in Targett once more. Like you say, although he had a reasonably good season for Southampton when he played, he was demonstrably at fault for a couple of goals because of his positional sense.

Difficult to believe we would look to sign Targett and keep Bryan as I can't see either of them doing the job further up the pitch that Sess did (this is all assuming Sess is off and wouldn't be loaned back to us as part of the deal) when Targett came in on loan. It would be a bit of a luxury to have upwards of £15 million worth of specialist left backs at any Championship club!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on June 04, 2019, 05:32:07 PM
Quote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...

Kevin Mirallas?  He's 31. Not a good price.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 05:36:08 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 04, 2019, 05:32:07 PM
Quote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...

Kevin Mirallas?  He's 31. Not a good price.

Big wages too I presume.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Andy S on June 04, 2019, 05:49:18 PM
I would have Matt Target back in a heart beat. The reason being is he can cross a ball. That is something that Joe Bryan has a problem with. Yes we can play good football but you always need an option to cross a ball accurately
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on June 04, 2019, 09:34:51 PM
Quote from: Andy S on June 04, 2019, 05:49:18 PM
I would have Matt Target back in a heart beat. The reason being is he can cross a ball. That is something that Joe Bryan has a problem with. Yes we can play good football but you always need an option to cross a ball accurately

Bryan had a few issues, but crossing was never one I saw.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on June 04, 2019, 09:40:06 PM
Quote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...

I Havent forgiven them for selling us Radzinski
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 10:16:37 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on June 04, 2019, 09:40:06 PM
Quote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...

I Havent forgiven them for selling us Radzinski
r

Mirallas is a complete and utter Prima Donna. We need to build a team not 11 individuals.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 05, 2019, 06:16:10 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 04, 2019, 05:32:07 PM
Quote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...

Kevin Mirallas?  He's 31. Not a good price.

A Right Winger that can play Left Wing, Centre Forward and Second Striker. PERFECT for next years plan to BOUNCE UP.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on June 05, 2019, 08:22:45 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 05, 2019, 06:16:10 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 04, 2019, 05:32:07 PM
Quote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...

Kevin Mirallas?  He's 31. Not a good price.

A Right Winger that can play Left Wing, Centre Forward and Second Striker. PERFECT for next years plan to BOUNCE UP.

Not for me, he makes AK look like a team player.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 05, 2019, 12:25:15 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 05, 2019, 08:22:45 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 05, 2019, 06:16:10 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 04, 2019, 05:32:07 PM
Quote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...

Kevin Mirallas?  He's 31. Not a good price.

A Right Winger that can play Left Wing, Centre Forward and Second Striker. PERFECT for next years plan to BOUNCE UP.

Not for me, he makes AK look like a team player.

Interesting, I noticed his stats from last year are not much better than AK as well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: aaronmcguigan on June 05, 2019, 12:32:52 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on June 04, 2019, 09:40:06 PM
Quote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...

I Havent forgiven them for selling us Radzinski

What about Andrew Johnson and Mark Pembridge who's ended up at the club for 15 years?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on June 05, 2019, 06:24:42 PM
Targett was so good in the second half of our promotion season, as has been said his crossing was very good and we do need someone who can cross a ball and take corners. However Bryan was looking solid at the end of the season and I would
have thought that left back was not a priority.

First we need  replacements for Sess. and Mitro , then a really good centre back, a right back and a striker to replace Babel. These players need to be top drawer so lets concentrate on them and get it right.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.

See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.

There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.

Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship.   I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.

See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.

There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.

Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship.   I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)

Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 05:19:14 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.

See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.

There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.

Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship.   I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)

Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
You make some good observations which I concur.
However, you have actually overlooked the actual nailed on biggest weakness of all which is TK, and there is where the problems lay.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on June 06, 2019, 07:29:55 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 05:19:14 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.

See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.

There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.

Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship.   I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)

Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
You make some good observations which I concur.
However, you have actually overlooked the actual nailed on biggest weakness of all which is TK, and there is where the problems lay.

Another dig at TK from an extinct beast!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 08:04:24 AM
Quote from: KJS on June 06, 2019, 07:29:55 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 05:19:14 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.

See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.

There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.

Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship.   I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)

Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
You make some good observations which I concur.
However, you have actually overlooked the actual nailed on biggest weakness of all which is TK, and there is where the problems lay.

Another dig at TK from an extinct beast!!!


Warning ! Warning ! Alien Alert.
Nurse Nurse Billy No Mates is out of bed again.
By the way your the second biggest weakness Grass Hopper.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 06, 2019, 09:30:39 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.

See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.

There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.

Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship.   I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)

I'm certain Bryan is more than capable of excelling in the championship. But I'm not buying Bryan is better than Targett and that he was criticised a lot when you look at Bryans turnout/output last season. I actually saw progression from Targett, he's bulked out and looks fitter and even scored a header!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 07, 2019, 08:07:52 AM
Radio saying we're after Leandro Trossard of Genk.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 07, 2019, 09:06:31 AM
Trossard is a very promising player and according to sports analysts in Belgium very likely to go to Germany if he leaves Genk in the summer
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 07, 2019, 02:53:05 PM
We're not signing Trossard. Would probably be about 20m, and I've seen Arsenal and Gladbach in for him. If we're looking at Genk forwards, I'd be all over Mbwana Samatta if we sell Mitrovic.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on June 07, 2019, 03:00:18 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 08:04:24 AM
Quote from: KJS on June 06, 2019, 07:29:55 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 05:19:14 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.

See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.

There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.

Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship.   I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)

Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
You make some good observations which I concur.
However, you have actually overlooked the actual nailed on biggest weakness of all which is TK, and there is where the problems lay.

Another dig at TK from an extinct beast!!!


Warning ! Warning ! Alien Alert.
Nurse Nurse Billy No Mates is out of bed again.
By the way your the second biggest weakness Grass Hopper.
And you are still a total Richard Cranium!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on June 07, 2019, 05:24:46 PM
Well Michael Vorm has just been released. Now he's a GK worth having on the books
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Burt on June 07, 2019, 05:51:40 PM
Quote from: KJS on June 07, 2019, 03:00:18 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 08:04:24 AM
Quote from: KJS on June 06, 2019, 07:29:55 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 05:19:14 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.

See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.

There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.

Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship.   I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)

Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
You make some good observations which I concur.
However, you have actually overlooked the actual nailed on biggest weakness of all which is TK, and there is where the problems lay.

Another dig at TK from an extinct beast!!!


Warning ! Warning ! Alien Alert.
Nurse Nurse Billy No Mates is out of bed again.
By the way your the second biggest weakness Grass Hopper.
And you are still a total Richard Cranium!

OI!! YOU TWO!! BEHAVE!!!
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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 07, 2019, 06:43:14 PM
Seen a couple of things on Twitter suggesting we're close to signing Joseph Attamah who's a Centre-Back (who can play DM) for Basaksehir.

Not sure I'd be that keen on him as a starter, but we can do worse as an option. Major downside to me is he could be going to AFCON with Ghana.

Could also be complete nonsense of course.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 07, 2019, 06:50:05 PM
May have been posted but Sky reporting Sess has turned down a contract.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on June 07, 2019, 06:50:50 PM
Re Joseph Attaman -is that genuine or a rehash of our failed bid in January?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 07, 2019, 09:02:41 PM
Small sentence in this article about AK47 coming back that says we've got a 600k offer from Royal Antwerp for Cisse.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9247625/aboubakar-kamara-fulham-scott-parker/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on June 07, 2019, 10:45:08 PM
https://www.les-transferts.com/rumeur-mercato/las-roma-vise-rodrigo-et-zambo.html

Rodrigo and Zambo Anguissa could join AS Roma.

With the departure of Daniele De Rossi and that of Edin Dzeko , the leaders of AS Roma would multiply the tracks for this summer.

Indeed, in attack, the Giallorossi would greatly appreciate Rodrigo, the scorer of Valencia, author of 15 goals and 10 assists in all competitions, according to Sport.

An offer of 70 million euros is also mentioned, as a nice increase in salary.

Regarding the position of midfielder, the management of the Louve club is planning to bring André-Franck Zambo-Anguissa out of his galley in London.

According to  CalcioMercatoWeb, the Cameroon international Fulham who does not want to evolve in Championship, is in a good position on the Italian shelves.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BernieBoy on June 08, 2019, 07:33:08 AM
With a number of players out of contract this summer, there are a few I would consider if they would be willing to step down for a year and be part of a promotion charge. That and obviously have realistic wage demands.

Adrian
Sako
Jagielka
Simpson
Okazaki
Diame
Britos
Pugh
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 08, 2019, 05:52:47 PM
I'd bloody love Sako.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on June 08, 2019, 10:19:35 PM
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/derby-and-fulham-to-battle-premier-league-pair-for-25-y-o/

DERBY AND FULHAM TO BATTLE PREMIER LEAGUE PAIR FOR 25-Y/O

Derby County and Fulham are looking to bring in Todd Kane, although they face competition for the right-back from newly-promoted Premier League pair Sheffield United and Aston Villa.

That's according to Football Insider who state that the four clubs are all interested in the 25-year-old who will be a free agent when his contract at Chelsea expires at the end of the month.

Kane has been with the Blues since he was a kid but has yet to make an appearance for the Londoners, who have sent him out on loan regularly over the years.

His latest spell away from Stamford Bridge came at Hull last season, with the full-back making 39 league appearances for Nigel Adkins side and he impressed with his displays on the whole.

Now it's down to Kane to decide where his future lies and the Blades and Villa will feel they have the edge by offering top-flight football to the player.

However, Kane knows Lampard from his time with Chelsea an the Rams will hope that can be a factor.

The Verdict

On a free transfer you have to say that Kane would be a smart signing for any of the four clubs and you can see why they are interested.

After so many loan spells you would imagine that the versatile 25-year-old wants to find somewhere where he can stay for the long-term so it's a very big decision from his perspective.

The appeal of the Premier League could make it tough for Derby and Fulham, although you could argue first-team football is more likely in the Championship so it will be interesting to see where he ends up.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on June 08, 2019, 10:36:35 PM
All these websites that you find on News Now are a joke. Apparently we are going to loan out Mitro for £2m. Anyone who believes that must have a screw loose.  :dead horse:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on June 08, 2019, 10:41:05 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 08, 2019, 10:36:35 PM
All these websites that you find on News Now are a joke. Apparently we are going to loan out Mitro for £2m. Anyone who believes that must have a screw loose.  :dead horse:
I would remind you that this a rumour thread, intended to promote discussion. Don't shoot the messenger. If you think that all the rumours are rubbish avoid this thread.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 08, 2019, 10:42:02 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 08, 2019, 10:36:35 PM
All these websites that you find on News Now are a joke. Apparently we are going to loan out Mitro for £2m. Anyone who believes that must have a screw loose.  :dead horse:

It's just reporting a link that's come out of Turkey. The other side to that is the big three (Fenerbahce, Galatasaray, Besiktas) in Turkey are linked with genuinely about 100 players every summer and about three come off. Fenerbahce especially are in I think something like 600 million euros worth of debt and the Lira's crashing/crashed, so they have to do things on the cheap. Which is why last summer they left everything to the last minute and ended up with Slimani and Andre Ayew on loan (and they don't even have the Europa/Champions League next season).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on June 08, 2019, 10:57:59 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 08, 2019, 10:41:05 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 08, 2019, 10:36:35 PM
All these websites that you find on News Now are a joke. Apparently we are going to loan out Mitro for £2m. Anyone who believes that must have a screw loose.  :dead horse:
I would remind you that this a rumour thread, intended to promote discussion. Don't shoot the messenger. If you think that all the rumours are rubbish avoid this thread.

So true! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 09, 2019, 07:59:28 AM
Quote from: sarnian on June 08, 2019, 10:36:35 PM
All these websites that you find on News Now are a joke. Apparently we are going to loan out Mitro for £2m. Anyone who believes that must have a screw loose.  :dead horse:
Actually we have had 2 loan bods for him one each from Greece and Turkey, not as silly as it seems IMO. If he loves the club and fans as he says but wants top flight football (have not seen him anything to say ha has said solely prem football) then why not a loan and he comes back next season if we have been promoted or we sell him then.

Doesn't seem a bad idea as long as his wages are covered in full by the loaning club and we get a good loan fee
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 10, 2019, 01:47:58 PM
Have we signed anyone yet?
I'm starting to get very impatient.
😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on June 10, 2019, 07:33:13 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 10, 2019, 01:47:58 PM
Have we signed anyone yet?
I'm starting to get very impatient.
😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

Our DOF is away on other business, AEW and the Jaguars are taking a lot of his time right no, I wouldn't expect us to make any moves at all until he's back
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 10, 2019, 07:37:07 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 10, 2019, 01:47:58 PM
Have we signed anyone yet?
I'm starting to get very impatient.
😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

It's not August 7th yet.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:00:01 AM
Thought I'd bring up a couple more names I'd like to see us sign that 99% of you have never heard of. Thought I'd specifically look at young players this time that we could look to bring into the mix given there's not many stand-out players in our academy teams bar the couple we already know about.

Iyenoma Udogie (16, Hellas Verona)
Udogie reminds me a lot of Sessegnon in some ways. He was one of the highlights of the U17 Euros where Italy finished as runners up, and Udogie starred at Left-Back. But he could end up getting pushed further forward given he does seem to have an eye for goal considering he's scored 6 goals from Left-Back for Hellas Verona's U17s in what is now last season. Think if we did sign him he could go straight into the mix with the first-team as cover for Bryan initially as well, I genuinely think he is that good despite his age. Again, reminds me a lot of Sessegnon. 

Innocent Assana Nah (18, Cotonsport)
Most of you won't have heard of Cotonsport, given they're a Cameroon based team. But you may have heard of some of the players they've produced like Vincent Aboubakar, Djene Dakonam (who should be in for a big move this summer given he's linked with Arsenal and Everton) and a certain Andre Frank Zambo Anguissa.

Thought rather than overspend massively like we did on Zambo, we could try going straight to the source. Assana Nah's a left-winger who can score and assist. He also has the nickname "Jimmy". The thing with him would be trying to get a work permit, and we'd probably have to loan him out to teams on the continent for a year or two to try and boost his case for one.

Joe Hodge (16, Man City)
Like Udogie, Hodge had a very good U17 Euros. Hodge is a DM by trade, and that's definitely something we don't have at any of our youth levels to a decent standard. Would also think we could sign him as well given how City end up losing their youth players like Sancho when it becomes clear there's not a proper pathway to the first team that we could offer him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
It would be good to get some mid 20s homegrown players with some Championship experience, as we will need to name seven homegrown players in every squad next season. And, with only seven established homegrown players including Betts, Rodak, Christie, Mawson, Bryan, Cairney and Fonte, we could be forced to name some weak homegrown players if they cannot play (or if one of our goalkeepers isn't homegrown).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
It would be good to get some mid 20s homegrown players with some Championship experience, as we will need to name seven homegrown players in every squad next season. And, with only seven established homegrown players including Betts, Rodak, Christie, Mawson, Bryan, Cairney and Fonte, we could be forced to name some weak homegrown players if they cannot play (or if one of our goalkeepers isn't homegrown).

But surely some of our academy players would count as homegrown as well? Meaning that if either of the Sessegnon's, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley or Elliott is in the squad they would help make up the numbers? Since I would expect a few of them to be regular squad players. Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on June 11, 2019, 11:47:42 AM
Beginning to think that we need the Sess. matter to be sorted in order to kick start the movement of players and the assembly of the team for next season.

No doubt that we need to know at an early stage whether or not we need to replace him and his transfer fee must make a big difference to our available transfer budget.

Problem is of course that possible big spenders likely to offer best price for Sess. have no immediate need for him but see him as an investment for the future. they are therefore likely to let matters drag on to the end of the window.

We need perhaps to generate some fake news in order to make the big teams active. Send Sess. on an away day to Madrid may work wonders.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
It would be good to get some mid 20s homegrown players with some Championship experience, as we will need to name seven homegrown players in every squad next season. And, with only seven established homegrown players including Betts, Rodak, Christie, Mawson, Bryan, Cairney and Fonte, we could be forced to name some weak homegrown players if they cannot play (or if one of our goalkeepers isn't homegrown).

But surely some of our academy players would count as homegrown as well? Meaning that if either of the Sessegnon's, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley or Elliott is in the squad they would help make up the numbers? Since I would expect a few of them to be regular squad players. Or am I missing something?

Yes, they do count as homegrown, but what if after a few games we find Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley and Elliott need an extra season to develop into top Championship Players; but we have to name a bench of Rodak, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley, Elliott and Fonte against Leeds Away.

Our bench needs to be stronger than Fabri, Odoi, MLM, McDoanld, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye with under 21 players proving that they are better options than the old guard. We must not make the same mistake as last season with a starting lineup that should be ready for Premier League (including Fabri, TFM, Chambers at CB, Bryan, McDonald, Anguissa and Ryan Sessegnon) without a list of proven backups for that league on the bench.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: filham on June 11, 2019, 11:47:42 AM
Beginning to think that we need the Sess. matter to be sorted in order to kick start the movement of players and the assembly of the team for next season.

No doubt that we need to know at an early stage whether or not we need to replace him and his transfer fee must make a big difference to our available transfer budget.

Problem is of course that possible big spenders likely to offer best price for Sess. have no immediate need for him but see him as an investment for the future. they are therefore likely to let matters drag on to the end of the window.

We need perhaps to generate some fake news in order to make the big teams active. Send Sess. on an away day to Madrid may work wonders.

No need for fake news, Ryan Sessegnon is playing in the UEFA European under-21s Cup. Every game is watched by half the worlds scouts, and he could potentially play up to five. He could do really well as his preparation has been excellent, not many players going have 100 games of Championship experience and 2,000 minutes of Premier League experience.

If he has a brilliant tournament, Tottenham will find him and his brother bought by Liverpool for £50m (the buyout price). Let's remind ourselves that Ryan Sessegnon played more minutes in the premier league (hardest domestic league in the world) this season than all the kids younger than himself combined.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Penfold on June 11, 2019, 12:30:04 PM
It's all going to be a bit quiet at the moment with loads of people being on holiday etc. I assume those bloodsuckers known as agents even have some time off.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
It would be good to get some mid 20s homegrown players with some Championship experience, as we will need to name seven homegrown players in every squad next season. And, with only seven established homegrown players including Betts, Rodak, Christie, Mawson, Bryan, Cairney and Fonte, we could be forced to name some weak homegrown players if they cannot play (or if one of our goalkeepers isn't homegrown).

But surely some of our academy players would count as homegrown as well? Meaning that if either of the Sessegnon's, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley or Elliott is in the squad they would help make up the numbers? Since I would expect a few of them to be regular squad players. Or am I missing something?

Yes, they do count as homegrown, but what if after a few games we find Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley and Elliott need an extra season to develop into top Championship Players; but we have to name a bench of Rodak, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley, Elliott and Fonte against Leeds Away.

Our bench needs to be stronger than Fabri, Odoi, MLM, McDoanld, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye with under 21 players proving that they are better options than the old guard. We must not make the same mistake as last season with a starting lineup that should be ready for Premier League (including Fabri, TFM, Chambers at CB, Bryan, McDonald, Anguissa and Ryan Sessegnon) without a list of proven backups for that league on the bench.

Why on earth would our bench in the Championship have to be stronger than Fabri, Odoi, MLM, McDonald, Johansen, Kamara and Ayite? That sounds like an very strong bench for that level, with all of those players good enough to be starting for most of our opponents.

Alos, those youngsters were added to the 7 already named by you. I think you will find that contrary to your wishes we will not end up with a squad of 30+ established Championship players, and in case of an absolute injury crisis we will likely struggle unless several of the youngsters really step up their game. But that goes for every team in almost every league. If you lose say 10 of your better players to injury/suspensions then you will likely struggle, so let's hope that won't happen to us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
It would be good to get some mid 20s homegrown players with some Championship experience, as we will need to name seven homegrown players in every squad next season. And, with only seven established homegrown players including Betts, Rodak, Christie, Mawson, Bryan, Cairney and Fonte, we could be forced to name some weak homegrown players if they cannot play (or if one of our goalkeepers isn't homegrown).

But surely some of our academy players would count as homegrown as well? Meaning that if either of the Sessegnon's, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley or Elliott is in the squad they would help make up the numbers? Since I would expect a few of them to be regular squad players. Or am I missing something?

Yes, they do count as homegrown, but what if after a few games we find Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley and Elliott need an extra season to develop into top Championship Players; but we have to name a bench of Rodak, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley, Elliott and Fonte against Leeds Away.

Our bench needs to be stronger than Fabri, Odoi, MLM, McDoanld, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye with under 21 players proving that they are better options than the old guard. We must not make the same mistake as last season with a starting lineup that should be ready for Premier League (including Fabri, TFM, Chambers at CB, Bryan, McDonald, Anguissa and Ryan Sessegnon) without a list of proven backups for that league on the bench.

Why on earth would our bench in the Championship have to be stronger than Fabri, Odoi, MLM, McDonald, Johansen, Kamara and Ayite? That sounds like an very strong bench for that level, with all of those players good enough to be starting for most of our opponents.

Alos, those youngsters were added to the 7 already named by you. I think you will find that contrary to your wishes we will not end up with a squad of 30+ established Championship players, and in case of an absolute injury crisis we will likely struggle unless several of the youngsters really step up their game. But that goes for every team in almost every league. If you lose say 10 of your better players to injury/suspensions then you will likely struggle, so let's hope that won't happen to us.

Why on earth would our bench in the Championship have to be stronger? Because we have the money now, and we won't be allowed to spend it in a few year due to FFP Rules and maximium allowed losses. Yes, I am basically advocating spending every cent we have over the next three years.

Next Season is our best chance ever to get promoted, because we have the kind of financial advantages that Manchester City has in the Premier League. Our problem is some of our players won't fire and other will get injured, plus other teams will be more settled and have better team work. So, Fulham need to have more depth than any other team in the league (preferable more depth than any team ever in the Championship), which is easily possible if we sell a player like Sessegnon for £30m+, we get 50m from parchate payments and a cash injection from the Khans of 13m plus some regular revenue too.

Last time, we were in the Championship 17/18 our "turnover plus profit on player sales" was £52m, next year 19/20 it could be an enormous £92m (with 20m more TV payments and 20m more in profit on player sales). The other teams in the Championship like Brentford will be struggling along with £13m turnover, so yes we should be able to afford a team that can beat Brentford even with 10 or more injuries.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 01:14:05 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 12:59:16 PM

Why on earth would our bench in the Championship have to be stronger? Because we have the money now, and we won't be allowed to spend it in a few year due to FFP Rules and maximium allowed losses. Yes, I am basically advocating spending every cent we have over the next three years.

Next Season is our best chance ever to get promoted, because we have the kind of financial advantages that Manchester City has in the Premier League. Our problem is some of our players won't fire and other will get injured, plus other teams will be more settled and have better team work. So, Fulham need to have more depth than any other team in the league (preferable more depth than any team ever in the Championship), which is easily possible if we sell a player like Sessegnon for £30m+, we get 50m from parchate payments and a cash injection from the Khans of 13m plus some regular revenue too.

Why would other teams be more settled and have better team work? Unless we are going your proposed way with three sets of 11 players that is, because then naturally we would not be settled for years. Just to be clear, I don't oppose having a strong squad as such, but I believe it is immensely more important to have a settled team with players that know each other and have had a full pre-season together. I also don't see from where we will get this extreme depth, since I would assume that most established Championship players or better would not come to us without seeing at least a good chance for a place in the starting eleven. Unless we severely overpay for them that is of course, which is never a good thing.   

Also, if our bench is stronger than that, do you propose that players like Odoi, MLM, Ayite, Kamara, Johansen and McDonald should ideally not even be in the match day squad?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 11, 2019, 01:24:50 PM
Once again we're getting quote after quote added.
Hello...Its transfer Gossip not about players we already have.😵
Read OP.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 11, 2019, 01:24:50 PM
Once again we're getting quote after quote added.
Hello...Its transfer Gossip not about players we already have.😵
Read OP.

Just in the post above you I cut out most of the previous quotes, as has been many times advised. I do see were you are coming from regarding the purpose of the thread though, and will make sure to not derail it by discussing transfer strategies if that feels too of topic.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 01:14:05 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 12:59:16 PM

Why on earth would our bench in the Championship have to be stronger? Because we have the money now, and we won't be allowed to spend it in a few year due to FFP Rules and maximium allowed losses. Yes, I am basically advocating spending every cent we have over the next three years.

Next Season is our best chance ever to get promoted, because we have the kind of financial advantages that Manchester City has in the Premier League. Our problem is some of our players won't fire and other will get injured, plus other teams will be more settled and have better team work. So, Fulham need to have more depth than any other team in the league (preferable more depth than any team ever in the Championship), which is easily possible if we sell a player like Sessegnon for £30m+, we get 50m from parchate payments and a cash injection from the Khans of 13m plus some regular revenue too.

Why would other teams be more settled and have better team work? Unless we are going your proposed way with three sets of 11 players that is, because then naturally we would not be settled for years. Just to be clear, I don't oppose having a strong squad as such, but I believe it is immensely more important to have a settled team with players that know each other and have had a full pre-season together. I also don't see from where we will get this extreme depth, since I would assume that most established Championship players or better would not come to us without seeing at least a good chance for a place in the starting eleven. Unless we severely overpay for them that is of course, which is never a good thing.   

Also, if our bench is stronger than that, do you propose that players like Odoi, MLM, Ayite, Kamara, Johansen and McDonald should ideally not even be in the match day squad?

I also agree a settled team is key. The secret from a recruitment perspective of having a settled team is i) not selling key players and ii) not changing the first XI to much. Hence, the best way to enhance the squad without ruining the chemistry is to enhance the bench and deepen the squad (replace players like Cisse and Fonte). As for whether existing players should keep out new players, I would say of course existing players should stay on the bench until the new players imbed themselves in the team and show they are better. We can always sell or loan players in the winter transfer window if we have too many.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on June 11, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Yes please:

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/06/11/wolves-open-to-offers-for-duo/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 11, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Yes please:

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/06/11/wolves-open-to-offers-for-duo/

Pretty much the dream for me right now. What a combo or talent we'd add to our side.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 11, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Yes please:

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/06/11/wolves-open-to-offers-for-duo/

Pretty much the dream for me right now. What a combo or talent we'd add to our side.

If you could only choose one of these two, whic one would you choose Costa or Cavaleiro?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:08:28 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 11, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Yes please:

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/06/11/wolves-open-to-offers-for-duo/

Pretty much the dream for me right now. What a combo or talent we'd add to our side.

If you could only choose one of these two, whic one would you choose Costa or Cavaleiro?

For me, Cavaleiro. Just because I think its more likely (on a perm) and a position we definitely need to strengthen.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa). 

Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa). 

Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.

Why would we have to wait for sales?  The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa). 

Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.

Why would we have to wait for sales?  The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?

I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.

On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:58:26 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa). 

Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.

Why would we have to wait for sales?  The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?

We might have to wait for sales because we don't know how much we're going to get for the players and how that factors in to our overall FFP picture after last summer and the wages we'll be paying to the likes of Mawson, Cairney etc. next season.

I've seen loans being talked about for Seri for example and that would just be 1.5-2m plus his wages off the books when we should be looking at 15-20m from him if he's sold permanently.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa). 

Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.

Why would we have to wait for sales?  The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?

I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.

On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.

Huddersfield had the extra year in the Prem and they spent something like 40-45m last summer, plus they've got new owners. They can comfortably spend probably about 50m not factoring in player sales. We could probably spend about 10-15m max (and even after sales we won't be able to spend much more on top of that).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa). 

Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.

Why would we have to wait for sales?  The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?

I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.

On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.

Huddersfield had the extra year in the Prem and they spent something like 40-45m last summer, plus they've got new owners. They can comfortably spend probably about 50m not factoring in player sales. We could probably spend about 10-15m max (and even after sales we won't be able to spend much more on top of that).

I'm not 100% thats correct but I'd be interested in seeing the sources for it?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 11, 2019, 03:56:38 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa). 

Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.

Why would we have to wait for sales?  The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?

I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.

On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.

Huddersfield had the extra year in the Prem and they spent something like 40-45m last summer, plus they've got new owners. They can comfortably spend probably about 50m not factoring in player sales. We could probably spend about 10-15m max (and even after sales we won't be able to spend much more on top of that).

I'm assuming you're basing this off of some FFP rule or two.   The owner was ready to buy a stadium for 600 million that wouldn't immediately provide a return on investment.   He also owns an NFL franchise.   I doubt he'd blink if he though dropping cash would help him get back into the EPL.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 11, 2019, 03:56:38 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa). 

Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.

Why would we have to wait for sales?  The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?

I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.

On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.

Huddersfield had the extra year in the Prem and they spent something like 40-45m last summer, plus they've got new owners. They can comfortably spend probably about 50m not factoring in player sales. We could probably spend about 10-15m max (and even after sales we won't be able to spend much more on top of that).

I'm assuming you're basing this off of some FFP rule or two.   The owner was ready to buy a stadium for 600 million that wouldn't immediately provide a return on investment.   He also owns an NFL franchise.   I doubt he'd blink if he though dropping cash would help him get back into the EPL.

Based on FFP, yeah. I don't think anyone can question the Khans willingness to spend after last summer- but I'd rather play it safe from an FFP perspective than do what Villa did when they went down and use their Parachute Payments as an added transfer budget and what Stoke did last summer of spending 50-60m on top of keeping most of their big earners and then it not working and Stoke most likely getting done on FFP next season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 04:18:41 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa). 

Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.

Why would we have to wait for sales?  The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?

I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.

On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.

Huddersfield had the extra year in the Prem and they spent something like 40-45m last summer, plus they've got new owners. They can comfortably spend probably about 50m not factoring in player sales. We could probably spend about 10-15m max (and even after sales we won't be able to spend much more on top of that).

I'm not 100% thats correct but I'd be interested in seeing the sources for it?

Sources for what part?
Huddersfield spent 45m last season (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/huddersfield-town/transfers/verein/1110) and they've spent about 90m total across their two years in the Prem. And then factoring in the sales of Nahki Wells and Tom Ince for approximately 15m total that goes down to 75-80m net spend.

That's against earning about 180-200m from being in the Prem over those two seasons, so even factoring in wages (where they were 2nd lowest in the league last season, only ahead of Cardiff). They will have made a decent chunk of money from their two years in the Prem.

I'm not suggesting they will spend 50m this summer, but they will be very comfortable from an FFP perspective- especially when you consider they'll most likely be selling Mooy, Billing and maybe a couple of others like Zanka and Schindler.

Whereas we only had 1 year of Prem money, and literally put all of it into transfers leaving us very little room to manoeuvre this summer even after player sales and parachute payments given we'll still be paying for our spend last summer and we'll have some big wages next season even after players like Seri have left. I don't have a "source" for that, it's just common sense.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 11, 2019, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa). 

Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.

Why would we have to wait for sales?  The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?

I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.

On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.
hr might score more than fine,but that's it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on June 11, 2019, 06:54:39 PM
Huddersfield will also have had a PL wage bill (£70-80m) for an extra season.

For both clubs, most of the £100m TV money would have gone on wages each year.

The way transfers are accounted for, it's not like we "spent" £100m last summer. Rather, we effectively committed to "spend" £25m per year over the next four years.

If Huddersfield spent £80m, even if it was over two seasons, they're in a similar position, albeit half their transfers might be accounted for a year earlier than ours.

I doubt they had much, if any, surplus in their PL seasons, or that they'll be in a substantially better position than us next year.

And of course all this is based on the assumption that both our chairmen are underwriting the maximum permitted losses each year, £35m per season in the PL and £13m in the Championship. It may well be the case that Huddersfield's chairman isn't actually pumping that money into the club like ours, in which case they'd be a lot, lot worse off than us next season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 07:28:31 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 11, 2019, 06:54:39 PM
Huddersfield will also have had a PL wage bill (£70-80m) for an extra season.

For both clubs, most of the £100m TV money would have gone on wages each year.

The way transfers are accounted for, it's not like we "spent" £100m last summer. Rather, we effectively committed to "spend" £25m per year over the next four years.

If Huddersfield spent £80m, even if it was over two seasons, they're in a similar position, albeit half their transfers might be accounted for a year earlier than ours.

I doubt they had much, if any, surplus in their PL seasons, or that they'll be in a substantially better position than us next year.

And of course all this is based on the assumption that both our chairmen are underwriting the maximum permitted losses each year, £35m per season in the PL and £13m in the Championship. It may well be the case that Huddersfield's chairman isn't actually pumping that money into the club like ours, in which case they'd be a lot, lot worse off than us next season.

A quick google later, Huddersfield turned a profit in their first Prem season. 125.2m revenue vs a 45.8m net spend and 62.6m in wages (http://financialfootballnews.com/huddersfield-town-fcs-2018-finances-premier-profits/). Don't know what they're like for this year, but they almost certainly had a lower net spend given they spend about 45m and sold Tom Ince for 10m. Would assume only a small rise in the wages as well.

So unless we've pulled off some accounting wizardry, they will be in a much better position to spend than we will be this summer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 07:46:22 PM
Talked about the kids last night, so now I'll look at a few of the more "seasoned pros" shall we say. Think we all know that signing someone over 28 at Fulham is a rare thing, but I hope we've now got the Ryan Babel rule whereby it's not a hard "no" if the right player came up given Babel was our best player the minute he walked through the door.

Kamil Grosicki (31, Hull)
I've been a fan of Grosicki for a while, and I'm genuinely surprised he's spent as long as he has done at Hull. Grosicki had an exceptional season with Hull, and it was really him and Jarrod Bowen who had Hull looking like they could challenge for the Top 6 at one point. Wages wouldn't be insignificant, but from what I can tell Hull are looking to sell this summer because they can 't afford to keep him on for another year. I've seen a rumour that Forest have supposedly bid 2.5m for him, and if we could get him for somewhere in the 2.5-5m range on a two year deal (maybe with an option of a third year) I think that would be exceptional value.

Anthony Losilla (33, VfL Bochum)
Losilla's basically just an old-school tackling DM. Think he would be a good option to have given the two DMs we currently have are more suited to playing with the ball than without. There's also very good value in the Bundesliga 2, and we could almost definitely get him for ~1m (maybe even less). Would again look at giving Losilla a two year deal, or maybe a 1 year deal with the option of another. He's also currently team mates with Tim Hoogland and Thomas Eisfeld at Bochum.

Mario Gomez (33, Stuttgart)
This one is a bit of a dream one for me. Been a huge fan of Mario Gomez for absolutely ages, and with Stuttgart going down and him no doubt being on pretty decent wages he's probably on the market. He wouldn't be able to play 46 games for us next season, but if we could accommodate him by having willing runners around him and having a rotation option for him he would without a shadow of a doubt score goals for us. This is the most unrealistic of the three, but I'd love it if we signed him if/when Mitrovic goes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on June 11, 2019, 08:43:55 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 11, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Yes please:

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/06/11/wolves-open-to-offers-for-duo/

What a double signing that would be.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on June 11, 2019, 09:21:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 07:28:31 PM
A quick google later, Huddersfield turned a profit in their first Prem season. 125.2m revenue vs a 45.8m net spend and 62.6m in wages (http://financialfootballnews.com/huddersfield-town-fcs-2018-finances-premier-profits/). Don't know what they're like for this year, but they almost certainly had a lower net spend given they spend about 45m and sold Tom Ince for 10m. Would assume only a small rise in the wages as well.

So unless we've pulled off some accounting wizardry, they will be in a much better position to spend than we will be this summer.

OK, so applying those numbers and assumptions to both seasons, and the point I was making about how transfer spending is accounted for, and assuming for the sake of argument average contract lengths of 4 yrs, their "spend" would have been about £12m (46 ÷ 4) in 17/18 and £23m (46 + 46 ÷ 4) in 18/19. That would have given them a surplus of £50m (125 - 63 - 12) in 17/18 and £39m in 18/19.

Applying the same numbers to our 18/19 season, assuming a £25m "spend" (100 ÷ 4) would give a surplus of £37m (125 - 63 - 25).

In fairness that would indeed put them £52m better off than us but it discounts us having a higher revenue etc as suggested by other posters, and crucially, if their chairman isn't pumping the £61m (13 + 35 + 13) into the club that FFP will allow over the rolling 3-yr period it's assessed, would still leave them £9m worse off than us next season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 09:34:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 11, 2019, 09:21:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 07:28:31 PM
A quick google later, Huddersfield turned a profit in their first Prem season. 125.2m revenue vs a 45.8m net spend and 62.6m in wages (http://financialfootballnews.com/huddersfield-town-fcs-2018-finances-premier-profits/). Don't know what they're like for this year, but they almost certainly had a lower net spend given they spend about 45m and sold Tom Ince for 10m. Would assume only a small rise in the wages as well.

So unless we've pulled off some accounting wizardry, they will be in a much better position to spend than we will be this summer.

OK, so applying those numbers and assumptions to both seasons, and the point I was making about how transfer spending is accounted for, and assuming for the sake of argument average contract lengths of 4 yrs, their "spend" would have been about £12m (46 ÷ 4) in 17/18 and £23m (46 + 46 ÷ 4) in 18/19. That would have given them a surplus of £50m (125 - 63 - 12) in 17/18 and £39m in 18/19.

Applying the same numbers to our 18/19 season, assuming a £25m "spend" (100 ÷ 4) would give a surplus of £37m (125 - 63 - 25).

In fairness that would indeed put them £52m better off than us but it discounts us having a higher revenue etc as suggested by other posters, and crucially, if their chairman isn't pumping the £61m (13 + 35 + 13) into the club that FFP will allow over the rolling 3-yr period it's assessed, would still leave them £9m worse off than us next season.

But you can't apply the same numbers to us, because we were paying players like Schurrle 100k a week. Don't know how true this is (https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/huddersfield-town-stand-premier-league-15476593), but if we believe it we were apparently paying approximately 500k a week more on wages than Huddersfield were in the season just gone- which is almost definitely an increase on what they were paying the season before. So that's what? Another 15-18m across the season in wages?

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 10:12:50 PM
These are the most likely unrealistic names I was looking at. There's about a 99% chance all three are no hopers, but however it turned out nobody would've expected us to be able to sign Seri last summer- so who knows.

Valon Berisha (LW,Lazio)
I wanted to sign Berisha last summer when he was at Salzburg, but he ended up going to Lazio where he had a pretty rough time of it. He spent most of the season injured, and when he wasn't injured he was on the bench. But, there is an exceptional player in there. From a financial perspective, it wouldn't be out of reach for us to try and sign him. Lazio signed him for about 7 million quid, and he hasn't done anything to increase his value over the course of the season lets put it that way. It would just be about convincing him to sign for a Championship club, hence the most likely unrealistic part.

I'd love it if we did sign Berisha, he'd be the ideal left-winger if we wanted to play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3- but he can also play centrally in the 4-3-3/as the #10 in a 4-2-3-1 when (and it is when) Cairney ends up missing a stretch of 4 or 5 games through injury.

Pablo Maffeo (RB,Stuttgart)
Probably most famous for doing such a good man marking job on Lionel Messi whilst on loan at Girona that Messi wanted to swap shirts with him after the game in the season before last. Stuttgart signed Maffeo for about 8 million quid last summer after he had a promising loan at Girona- but it just didn't work out for him for one reason or another.

But as with Berisha, there is definitely a player in there- and with Stuttgart getting relegated combined with the fact he didn't play much we could definitely afford him. The question again goes down to whether he would be willing to drop down to the Championship when he'll probably have suitors in La Liga.

Marcel Tisserand (CB,Wolfsburg)
I wanted his DR Congo teammate Christian Luyindama (also a Centre-Back) last summer while he was still at Standard Liege. Luyindama's gone on to sign for Galatasaray and will be playing Champions League football next season (probably with Ryan Babel).

Tisserand's had a bitty season with Wolfsburg, but the ability is definitely there. This one is most likely of the three to happen, but it still is reasonably unrealistic. Wolfsburg spent about 6 million quid on him last summer after having him on loan- and they'd probably want similar to sell him. It would just be about whether we could afford to buy him/how badly we wanted to buy him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on June 11, 2019, 10:36:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 09:34:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 11, 2019, 09:21:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 07:28:31 PM
A quick google later, Huddersfield turned a profit in their first Prem season. 125.2m revenue vs a 45.8m net spend and 62.6m in wages (http://financialfootballnews.com/huddersfield-town-fcs-2018-finances-premier-profits/). Don't know what they're like for this year, but they almost certainly had a lower net spend given they spend about 45m and sold Tom Ince for 10m. Would assume only a small rise in the wages as well.

So unless we've pulled off some accounting wizardry, they will be in a much better position to spend than we will be this summer.

OK, so applying those numbers and assumptions to both seasons, and the point I was making about how transfer spending is accounted for, and assuming for the sake of argument average contract lengths of 4 yrs, their "spend" would have been about £12m (46 ÷ 4) in 17/18 and £23m (46 + 46 ÷ 4) in 18/19. That would have given them a surplus of £50m (125 - 63 - 12) in 17/18 and £39m in 18/19.

Applying the same numbers to our 18/19 season, assuming a £25m "spend" (100 ÷ 4) would give a surplus of £37m (125 - 63 - 25).

In fairness that would indeed put them £52m better off than us but it discounts us having a higher revenue etc as suggested by other posters, and crucially, if their chairman isn't pumping the £61m (13 + 35 + 13) into the club that FFP will allow over the rolling 3-yr period it's assessed, would still leave them £9m worse off than us next season.

But you can't apply the same numbers to us, because we were paying players like Schurrle 100k a week. Don't know how true this is (https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/huddersfield-town-stand-premier-league-15476593), but if we believe it we were apparently paying approximately 500k a week more on wages than Huddersfield were in the season just gone- which is almost definitely an increase on what they were paying the season before. So that's what? Another 15-18m across the season in wages?


I suspect their wage bill for 17/18 was indeed in the ballpark of £65m, then up to at least £70m in 18/19, and that ours was also around that level in 18/19. Factored into the sums above, those numbers would bring you out in the same place I got to. No way our wages were hugely higher than theirs in 18/19, and FWIW our wages can't possibly have been more than £81m, because there's a separate FFP limit on wages at that level for newly-promoted clubs.

Ultimately, I'd treat all the numbers you've mentioned with caution, and accept that we'll never know the exact numbers.

For the sake of argument I used your own numbers to calculate the finger-in-the-air position in my last post, but could easily have adjusted them to reflect the fact that
(a) we'll have higher natural revenues (gate receipts etc) over all 3 seasons,
(b) their wages will, as I said, have been higher in 18/19 than in 17/18,
(c) our biggest signings (Anguissa, Mitrovic) will actually be accounted for over 5 years instead of 4 (like theirs, Kongolo),
(d) we'll get a loooooot more money for Sessegnon, Seri and Mitrovic, if we sell them, than they will for Mooy and Billing
etc...

It's swings and roundabouts. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 12, 2019, 01:41:17 AM
Quote from: Statto on June 11, 2019, 10:36:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 09:34:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 11, 2019, 09:21:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 07:28:31 PM
A quick google later, Huddersfield turned a profit in their first Prem season. 125.2m revenue vs a 45.8m net spend and 62.6m in wages (http://financialfootballnews.com/huddersfield-town-fcs-2018-finances-premier-profits/). Don't know what they're like for this year, but they almost certainly had a lower net spend given they spend about 45m and sold Tom Ince for 10m. Would assume only a small rise in the wages as well.

So unless we've pulled off some accounting wizardry, they will be in a much better position to spend than we will be this summer.

OK, so applying those numbers and assumptions to both seasons, and the point I was making about how transfer spending is accounted for, and assuming for the sake of argument average contract lengths of 4 yrs, their "spend" would have been about £12m (46 ÷ 4) in 17/18 and £23m (46 + 46 ÷ 4) in 18/19. That would have given them a surplus of £50m (125 - 63 - 12) in 17/18 and £39m in 18/19.

Applying the same numbers to our 18/19 season, assuming a £25m "spend" (100 ÷ 4) would give a surplus of £37m (125 - 63 - 25).

In fairness that would indeed put them £52m better off than us but it discounts us having a higher revenue etc as suggested by other posters, and crucially, if their chairman isn't pumping the £61m (13 + 35 + 13) into the club that FFP will allow over the rolling 3-yr period it's assessed, would still leave them £9m worse off than us next season.

But you can't apply the same numbers to us, because we were paying players like Schurrle 100k a week. Don't know how true this is (https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/huddersfield-town-stand-premier-league-15476593), but if we believe it we were apparently paying approximately 500k a week more on wages than Huddersfield were in the season just gone- which is almost definitely an increase on what they were paying the season before. So that's what? Another 15-18m across the season in wages?


I suspect their wage bill for 17/18 was indeed in the ballpark of £65m, then up to at least £70m in 18/19, and that ours was also around that level in 18/19. Factored into the sums above, those numbers would bring you out in the same place I got to. No way our wages were hugely higher than theirs in 18/19, and FWIW our wages can't possibly have been more than £81m, because there's a separate FFP limit on wages at that level for newly-promoted clubs.

Ultimately, I'd treat all the numbers you've mentioned with caution, and accept that we'll never know the exact numbers.

For the sake of argument I used your own numbers to calculate the finger-in-the-air position in my last post, but could easily have adjusted them to reflect the fact that
(a) we'll have higher natural revenues (gate receipts etc) over all 3 seasons,
(b) their wages will, as I said, have been higher in 18/19 than in 17/18,
(c) our biggest signings (Anguissa, Mitrovic) will actually be accounted for over 5 years instead of 4 (like theirs, Kongolo),
(d) we'll get a loooooot more money for Sessegnon, Seri and Mitrovic, if we sell them, than they will for Mooy and Billing
etc...

It's swings and roundabouts.

When discussing who is better off (Huddersfield or Fulham), it's worth saying that the year we are worse off is if we are in the championship in 2021/22 (when parchaute payments end). The years of 2021/22 or 2022/23 could be very dark years (unless we ignore FFP like Aston Villa and Wolves), but after that "The Khans" can pour £13m per year into the club, which would easily be enough to get us out of league one fast and back mid-table championship.

I want to laugh, because despite all the criticism of Fulham FC this season, Aston Villa has little choice but to follow Fulham 18/19 recruitment model with only one player Jack Grelish being Premier League quality, with a striker/CB that were got on loan and backline probably too slow for premier league.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on June 12, 2019, 08:04:25 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 12, 2019, 01:41:17 AM
When discussing who is better off (Huddersfield or Fulham), it's worth saying that the year we are worse off is if we are in the championship in 2021/22 (when parchaute payments end).

Agreed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on June 12, 2019, 12:35:18 PM
Sky reporting that Bayer Leverkusen interested in signing Mitro
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KH17 on June 12, 2019, 01:45:09 PM
Rising Ballers on Instagram reporting Harvey Eliott is leaving with further details coming soon

They are pretty respected in youth football and connected with a lot of upcoming players.

Though the wording makes me think it's a a bit of clickbait

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KH17 on June 12, 2019, 03:03:02 PM
Quote from: KH17 on June 12, 2019, 01:45:09 PM
Rising Ballers on Instagram reporting Harvey Eliott is leaving with further details coming soon

They are pretty respected in youth football and connected with a lot of upcoming players.

Though the wording makes me think it's a a bit of clickbait

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 13, 2019, 07:16:52 AM
Quote from: KH17 on June 12, 2019, 01:45:09 PM
Rising Ballers on Instagram reporting Harvey Eliott is leaving with further details coming soon

They are pretty respected in youth football and connected with a lot of upcoming players.

Though the wording makes me think it's a a bit of clickbait

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Gone to Dagenham and Redbridge.💨
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 13, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Sky reporting that Cody Dramah is signing for Eintract Frankfurt
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 13, 2019, 10:02:48 AM
Quote from: junior white on June 13, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Sky reporting that Cody Dramah is signing for Eintract Frankfurt

Shame, and we will only get peanuts for him

Fulham's highly-rated 17-year old defender, Cody Drameh is due to head to Germany in the next few days ahead of a medical at Eintracht Frankfurt.

The south London born Fulham academy product looks set to become the latest young English player to head for the Bundesliga.

Drameh, whose contract runs out next summer, featured regularly in Fulham's U23 squad last season and was called up to Keith Downing's England U19s squad.

Due to his age Fulham cannot ask for a transfer fee, but will receive compensation if the youngster makes his move to Frankfurt.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on June 14, 2019, 10:01:13 AM
Reports in Spain that Betis will make Mitrovic the biggest signing in their history for approx €25m.

https://www.muchodeporte.com/real_betis/45652/mitrovic_delantero_del_fulham_cerca_de_ser_jugador_del_betis/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AM
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record


Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: aaronmcguigan on June 14, 2019, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!

Sounds like the doom and gloom when we lost McCormack.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AM
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record


Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
Who? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AM
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record


Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
Who? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!

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Lots of players I've never heard about. He seems to be a right sided winger at least.

Hopefully he'd do better than the last loan with an option to buy from Portugal if it goes through.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:59:34 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on June 14, 2019, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!

Sounds like the doom and gloom when we lost McCormack.

Mitro is a couple of levels above Ross. Think €25 million would be a bargain and can't see selling that cheap though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on June 14, 2019, 12:27:05 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:59:34 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on June 14, 2019, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!

Sounds like the doom and gloom when we lost McCormack.

Mitro is a couple of levels above Ross. Think €25 million would be a bargain and can't see selling that cheap though.

Agree. He's 24, on a long contract and proved this season that he will score goals at the highest level. There's absolutely no reason for the club to sell him without a huge profit.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on June 14, 2019, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: twang on June 14, 2019, 12:27:05 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:59:34 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on June 14, 2019, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!

Sounds like the doom and gloom when we lost McCormack.

Mitro is a couple of levels above Ross. Think €25 million would be a bargain and can't see selling that cheap though.

Agree. He's 24, on a long contract and proved this season that he will score goals at the highest level. There's absolutely no reason for the club to sell him without a huge profit.
yep, his value would have gone up not down
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on June 14, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
I don´t usually bother with transfer gossip as it is just copy & pasting from some bedroom hack. However I do want to speak about the Mitrovic situation. He is under contract for a good while yet. If the Club don´t want to sell him they can´t be forced to. Even a bid of £50 Mil  would not tempt me judging from the fees being asked for lesser players.
Right, back to the pool & cold beer. Chat again when the window closes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on June 14, 2019, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AM
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record


Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
Who? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!

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Lots of players I've never heard about. He seems to be a right sided winger at least.

Hopefully he'd do better than the last loan with an option to buy from Portugal if it goes through.

Apparently Barca where looking at him at the end of last year
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 14, 2019, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AM
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record


Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
Who? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

Lots of players I've never heard about. He seems to be a right sided winger at least.

Hopefully he'd do better than the last loan with an option to buy from Portugal if it goes through.

Apparently Barca where looking at him at the end of last year

Then I'll add that I hope he performs better than the last player we got that Barca was looking at signing a year earlier too.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on June 14, 2019, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 14, 2019, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AM
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record


Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
Who? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!

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Lots of players I've never heard about. He seems to be a right sided winger at least.

Hopefully he'd do better than the last loan with an option to buy from Portugal if it goes through.

Apparently Barca where looking at him at the end of last year

Barca were also looking at seri.....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on June 14, 2019, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 14, 2019, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AM
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record


Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
Who? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!

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Lots of players I've never heard about. He seems to be a right sided winger at least.

Hopefully he'd do better than the last loan with an option to buy from Portugal if it goes through.

Apparently Barca where looking at him at the end of last year
so seri mark 2
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on June 14, 2019, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
I don´t usually bother with transfer gossip as it is just copy & pasting from some bedroom hack. However I do want to speak about the Mitrovic situation. He is under contract for a good while yet. If the Club don´t want to sell him they can´t be forced to. Even a bid of £50 Mil  would not tempt me judging from the fees being asked for lesser players.
Right, back to the pool & cold beer. Chat again when the window closes.

grandad

That used to be the case, if players want a move, they can realistically force one through now. I'm not saying he wants to go, but if he wants to move he will.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 14, 2019, 03:13:07 PM
Cabral's a bit like Adama Traore. Very direct, strong, quick- but also lacks an end product and can be quite frustrating. Definitely wouldn't say no to him with that said.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on June 14, 2019, 06:34:20 PM
Quote from: snarks on June 14, 2019, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
I don´t usually bother with transfer gossip as it is just copy & pasting from some bedroom hack. However I do want to speak about the Mitrovic situation. He is under contract for a good while yet. If the Club don´t want to sell him they can´t be forced to. Even a bid of £50 Mil  would not tempt me judging from the fees being asked for lesser players.
Right, back to the pool & cold beer. Chat again when the window closes.

grandad

That used to be the case, if players want a move, they can realistically force one through now. I'm not saying he wants to go, but if he wants to move he will.
Hard to see him staying. A big club and a big crowd at say Villa, Premier league football and an increase in wages plus a cut of a transfer fee and why would he not move on.

We need to be putting all efforts right now into finding  good replacements for both Sess and Mitrovic. This could be the deciding factor in whether we finish top or bottom half of the table next season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on June 15, 2019, 12:14:57 AM
QPR 2
Fulham 0

They will still finish below us though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on June 15, 2019, 08:21:34 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 07, 2019, 08:07:52 AM
Radio saying we're after Leandro Trossard of Genk.

According to today's Sky Sports Brighton are in talks with Genk over a deal to sign Trossard
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on June 15, 2019, 09:17:51 AM
So where do you think Mitrovic will end up? Newcastle, Frankfurt, Real Betis, A Turkish side, West Ham or staying with us. If he does go any fee less than £50 mil will be an insult for a 24 YO with 4 years left on his contract. We do not need to sell to fund incoming players although Seri & Fabri would be fine. Who knows what will happen with Sess & Zambo.
I did say I would not get involved with transfer gossip but it is infectious.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 15, 2019, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!

Fulham Fans have been preaching the nonsense the players we have bought this season are not good enough to get us out of the Championship, and logically if you want to buy new players you have to sell profitable players (ie Mitro and Sess) and then see what you can get with the money. I say try last years team, selling Sess for a few players.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on June 15, 2019, 10:51:30 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 15, 2019, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!

Fulham Fans have been preaching the nonsense the players we have bought this season are not good enough to get us out of the Championship, and logically if you want to buy new players you have to sell profitable players (ie Mitro and Sess) and then see what you can get with the money. I say try last years team, selling Sess for a few players.

They where good enough to get us in the Championship

If we sell Mitro for 25m we need shooting, that's what we paid for him and know he's  a proven PL scorer and on a 4 year contract we should be demanding 40+m for him if we are going to let him go, plus we know he score in the Championship
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 15, 2019, 12:05:05 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 15, 2019, 10:51:30 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 15, 2019, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!

Fulham Fans have been preaching the nonsense the players we have bought this season are not good enough to get us out of the Championship, and logically if you want to buy new players you have to sell profitable players (ie Mitro and Sess) and then see what you can get with the money. I say try last years team, selling Sess for a few players.

They where good enough to get us in the Championship

If we sell Mitro for 25m we need shooting, that's what we paid for him and know he's  a proven PL scorer and on a 4 year contract we should be demanding 40+m for him if we are going to let him go, plus we know he score in the Championship
If we were in the prem would be 40plus million all day ling like it would be for Sess, problem is once your relegated some players want to leave (not saying nitro does) and some clubs need to sell due to FFP or just cant afford the wage, any of these means the price reduces.

Sess is a case in hand, if reports are true that he only wants to go to spurs why would they pay more than they need too, the player can force the hand. We could accept higher from another club and say speak to then, he says no and then he stays and we have a good player who is unhappy, that is bound to affect performances and while going up may offset some of the loss if he leaves on a tribunal set fee it wont offset it all. My instinct says that's why spurs never really pushed the boat out last summer for him, one they didn't have the money and two if we went down the rumoured 60 million fee would also come down. Alternately we try to get the most we can but seeing he has his wishes that could be 30 mill max who knows, I certainly don't.

With Mitro 4 years left on his deal, reasonably high wages, the club needs to decide what happens if we don't go up, the longer he stays and we don't his price drops as teams will know we will be close on FFP. Horrible position for the club to be in.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 15, 2019, 01:04:49 PM
TK for his faults picking players,from seeing the fees he's got in from player sales then this is a strength So can't see Mitro going without a profit for the club.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on June 15, 2019, 03:18:19 PM
From Daily Mail.

Fulham eyeing up move for Leeds United's Adam Forshaw as manager Scott Parker looks to bolster his midfield ahead of the new season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on June 15, 2019, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on June 15, 2019, 03:18:19 PM
From Daily Mail.

Fulham eyeing up move for Leeds United's Adam Forshaw as manager Scott Parker looks to bolster his midfield ahead of the new season
Not sure the midfield is the priority , we need to concentrate on centre back, right back and possible replacements for Sess., Mitrovic and Babel.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on June 15, 2019, 11:39:16 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7145431/Harvey-Elliott-set-quit-Fulham-Barcelona-RB-Leipzig-interested.html

Harvey Elliott is quitting Fulham just a month after becoming the youngest player in Premier League history, writes Joe Bernstein.

Elliott played against Wolves in May aged only 16 years and 30 days.

He has failed to agree a new contract at Craven Cottage and can leave as a free agent at the end of the month.

Barcelona and RB Leipzig are among those looking at the midfielder.

The England Under-17 international clearly impressed Fulham captain Tom Cairney, who said: 'He does bits of magic. His belief in himself at such a young age is frightening.'
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 15, 2019, 11:52:47 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 15, 2019, 11:39:16 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7145431/Harvey-Elliott-set-quit-Fulham-Barcelona-RB-Leipzig-interested.html

Harvey Elliott is quitting Fulham just a month after becoming the youngest player in Premier League history, writes Joe Bernstein.

Elliott played against Wolves in May aged only 16 years and 30 days.

He has failed to agree a new contract at Craven Cottage and can leave as a free agent at the end of the month.

Barcelona and RB Leipzig are among those looking at the midfielder.

The England Under-17 international clearly impressed Fulham captain Tom Cairney, who said: 'He does bits of magic. His belief in himself at such a young age is frightening.'

What a nice young man
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: aaronmcguigan on June 16, 2019, 01:12:26 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 15, 2019, 11:52:47 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 15, 2019, 11:39:16 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7145431/Harvey-Elliott-set-quit-Fulham-Barcelona-RB-Leipzig-interested.html

Harvey Elliott is quitting Fulham just a month after becoming the youngest player in Premier League history, writes Joe Bernstein.

Elliott played against Wolves in May aged only 16 years and 30 days.

He has failed to agree a new contract at Craven Cottage and can leave as a free agent at the end of the month.

Barcelona and RB Leipzig are among those looking at the midfielder.

The England Under-17 international clearly impressed Fulham captain Tom Cairney, who said: 'He does bits of magic. His belief in himself at such a young age is frightening.'

What a nice young man

He seems like a nice young man yes. His captain has given a glowing review in the piece you've quoted and I fail to see how you can judge him over moving to a different club, especially for 2 clubs playing champions league football, reknowned for developing and improving youth.
Other than Ryan Sess, I don't remember any youth player who we as a club have brought through , developed and improved , rather than just giving cup appearances to, to rest the senior players.

We don't have a great record with developing and improving youth, and if the guy has imperious self belief, then why won't he think the sky is the limit
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 02:18:21 AM
Quote from: filham on June 15, 2019, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on June 15, 2019, 03:18:19 PM
From Daily Mail.

Fulham eyeing up move for Leeds United's Adam Forshaw as manager Scott Parker looks to bolster his midfield ahead of the new season
Not sure the midfield is the priority , we need to concentrate on centre back, right back and possible replacements for Sess., Mitrovic and Babel.

We have to sell Sessegnon and replace himself, Babel, Schullre, Vietto and Makovoic with the money (obviously a few of those can be loans even on defense). As none of the midfielders and defenders are profitable, we have two choices i) sell Mitrovoic to improve defense and midfield or ii) keep Mitrovoic and try to get promoted with the keepers, defense and midfield we have.

Unless fans accept Christie, MLM, Mawson, Seri and Mitrovoic can get us promoted, we have little choice but to sell Mitrovoic. Personally, i think those guys with Mitrovoic in front of them is worth a try tho season. Insist MLM and Ream need replacing then Mitrovoic is where the money is to buy new Centre Backs and Central Midfielders.

Personally I think removing from the squad is the Road to Ruin. If the players we have are not good enough, selling them at low prices isn't going to give us enough to buy decent new players.

Our players were brilliant the end of 17/18 not only those at Fulham but also Mawson, MLM, Bryan. Seri and Anguiissa; if our players return to hoe they played in March 2018, we will get 100 points in 19/20.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 04:19:26 AM
If Fulham are to achieve 100 points and get promoted then there is work to be done. They will need stronger characters, a few Mavericks and Leaders. More Height, physicality and pace in the team, and players with hearts the size of a football, and a settled and balanced side.
Where is the evidence so far, and do not rely on TK, he couldn't build a sandcastle on Bondi beach, or sell a life belt to a drowning man.
You have to be less optimistic and more realistic. Misfortune weighs heavily on those that expect nothing but good fortune.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 06:48:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 04:19:26 AM
If Fulham are to achieve 100 points and get promoted then there is work to be done. They will need stronger characters, a few Mavericks and Leaders. More Height, physicality and pace in the team, and players with hearts the size of a football, and a settled and balanced side.
Where is the evidence so far, and do not rely on TK, he couldn't build a sandcastle on Bondi beach, or sell a life belt to a drowning man.
You have to be less optimistic and more realistic. Misfortune weighs heavily on those that expect nothing but good fortune.

Damn Right, there is work to be done. ON THE TRAINING PITCH! and ON MATCHDAY! and THEY NEED TO TOUGHEN UP!

The players are good enough, if Seri puts his mind to it he can be better than Norwood (i.e. PFA team of the year).

In fact 7 players: Betts, Mawson, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney and Mitrovoic are all good enough for PFA team of the Year.

With another 9 players: Rodak, Christie, Odoi, Ream, MLM, McDonald, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye should be Championship ready.

Plus whatever we can get with the sale of the Sessegnon Twins and any youth coming though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on June 16, 2019, 08:13:42 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 06:48:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 04:19:26 AM
If Fulham are to achieve 100 points and get promoted then there is work to be done. They will need stronger characters, a few Mavericks and Leaders. More Height, physicality and pace in the team, and players with hearts the size of a football, and a settled and balanced side.
Where is the evidence so far, and do not rely on TK, he couldn't build a sandcastle on Bondi beach, or sell a life belt to a drowning man.
You have to be less optimistic and more realistic. Misfortune weighs heavily on those that expect nothing but good fortune.

Damn Right, there is work to be done. ON THE TRAINING PITCH! and ON MATCHDAY! and THEY NEED TO TOUGHEN UP!

The players are good enough, if Seri puts his mind to it he can be better than Norwood (i.e. PFA team of the year).

In fact 7 players: Betts, Mawson, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney and Mitrovoic are all good enough for PFA team of the Year.

With another 9 players: Rodak, Christie, Odoi, Ream, MLM, McDonald, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye should be Championship ready.


Plus whatever we can get with the sale of the Sessegnon Twins and any youth coming though.


RATIONAL: based on or in accordance with reason or logic.
synonyms:   logical, reasoned, well reasoned, sensible, reasonable, cogent, coherent, intelligent, wise, judicious, sagacious, astute, shrewd, perceptive, enlightened, clear-eyed, clear-sighted, common-sense, well advised, well grounded, sound, sober, prudent, circumspect.

Mmmmmm! I don't think so!
Yet again, none of the above apply to so many of your comments!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 09:09:49 AM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on June 16, 2019, 08:13:42 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 06:48:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 04:19:26 AM
If Fulham are to achieve 100 points and get promoted then there is work to be done. They will need stronger characters, a few Mavericks and Leaders. More Height, physicality and pace in the team, and players with hearts the size of a football, and a settled and balanced side.
Where is the evidence so far, and do not rely on TK, he couldn't build a sandcastle on Bondi beach, or sell a life belt to a drowning man.
You have to be less optimistic and more realistic. Misfortune weighs heavily on those that expect nothing but good fortune.

Damn Right, there is work to be done. ON THE TRAINING PITCH! and ON MATCHDAY! and THEY NEED TO TOUGHEN UP!

The players are good enough, if Seri puts his mind to it he can be better than Norwood (i.e. PFA team of the year).

In fact 7 players: Betts, Mawson, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney and Mitrovoic are all good enough for PFA team of the Year.

With another 9 players: Rodak, Christie, Odoi, Ream, MLM, McDonald, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye should be Championship ready.


Plus whatever we can get with the sale of the Sessegnon Twins and any youth coming though.


RATIONAL: based on or in accordance with reason or logic.
synonyms:   logical, reasoned, well reasoned, sensible, reasonable, cogent, coherent, intelligent, wise, judicious, sagacious, astute, shrewd, perceptive, enlightened, clear-eyed, clear-sighted, common-sense, well advised, well grounded, sound, sober, prudent, circumspect.

Mmmmmm! I don't think so!
Yet again, none of the above apply to so many of your comments!

OK, get specific.

Which player "IF THEY WORK HARD ON THE TRAINING PITCH" out of Betts, Mawson, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney and Mitrovoic is not capable of having a season as good as Norwood's 18/19 season?

I am not saying they will make "PFA Team of the Year" only that i believe seven players are good enough if they apply themselves.

Here are some clear reasons.
Betts - the second half of 17/18 season just needs to be matched all season and PFA team of the year is a possibility.
Cairney - made PFA Team of the season twice and he did that in seasons where he wasn't even fit all season.
Mitrovoic - if he can play his next 45 matches in the championship as well as his last 15 games in the Championship, PFA Player of the Year is His.
Mawson - he has played for England and is at an age that defenders should be improving, he could be the best centre back in the league.
Bryan - according to statistics the second best championship left wing back in the Championship of 17/18 and could improve.
Seri - his season of 16/17 in Ligue 1 was superior to anything ever produced by Oliver Norwood who made team of the year.
Anguissa - his best performances for Marseille, Cameroon and Fulham would demand PFA Team of the Year, he jsut needs to be consistently good.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on June 16, 2019, 11:02:27 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 09:09:49 AM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on June 16, 2019, 08:13:42 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 06:48:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 04:19:26 AM
If Fulham are to achieve 100 points and get promoted then there is work to be done. They will need stronger characters, a few Mavericks and Leaders. More Height, physicality and pace in the team, and players with hearts the size of a football, and a settled and balanced side.
Where is the evidence so far, and do not rely on TK, he couldn't build a sandcastle on Bondi beach, or sell a life belt to a drowning man.
You have to be less optimistic and more realistic. Misfortune weighs heavily on those that expect nothing but good fortune.

Damn Right, there is work to be done. ON THE TRAINING PITCH! and ON MATCHDAY! and THEY NEED TO TOUGHEN UP!

The players are good enough, if Seri puts his mind to it he can be better than Norwood (i.e. PFA team of the year).

In fact 7 players: Betts, Mawson, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney and Mitrovoic are all good enough for PFA team of the Year.

With another 9 players: Rodak, Christie, Odoi, Ream, MLM, McDonald, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye should be Championship ready.


Plus whatever we can get with the sale of the Sessegnon Twins and any youth coming though.


RATIONAL: based on or in accordance with reason or logic.
synonyms:   logical, reasoned, well reasoned, sensible, reasonable, cogent, coherent, intelligent, wise, judicious, sagacious, astute, shrewd, perceptive, enlightened, clear-eyed, clear-sighted, common-sense, well advised, well grounded, sound, sober, prudent, circumspect.

Mmmmmm! I don't think so!
Yet again, none of the above apply to so many of your comments!

OK, get specific.

Which player "IF THEY WORK HARD ON THE TRAINING PITCH" out of Betts, Mawson, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney and Mitrovoic is not capable of having a season as good as Norwood's 18/19 season?

I am not saying they will make "PFA Team of the Year" only that i believe seven players are good enough if they apply themselves.

Here are some clear reasons.
Betts - the second half of 17/18 season just needs to be matched all season and PFA team of the year is a possibility.
Cairney - made PFA Team of the season twice and he did that in seasons where he wasn't even fit all season.
Mitrovoic - if he can play his next 45 matches in the championship as well as his last 15 games in the Championship, PFA Player of the Year is His.
Mawson - he has played for England and is at an age that defenders should be improving, he could be the best centre back in the league.
Bryan - according to statistics the second best championship left wing back in the Championship of 17/18 and could improve.
Seri - his season of 16/17 in Ligue 1 was superior to anything ever produced by Oliver Norwood who made team of the year.
Anguissa - his best performances for Marseille, Cameroon and Fulham would demand PFA Team of the Year, he jsut needs to be consistently good.

Just a couple of points, not a long debate as I have to get on with my day.
Having to tell an international player to"Toughen up" at this stage in his career is not a cogent argument towards winning ways.
Expecting certain players to reproduce their "promotion form 2 seasons on is not reasonable or astute.
Basing what a player can do for you in English football on what he achieved in a foreign league is not wise or judicious.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 11:08:25 AM
It seems FFC are looking to buy Adam Forshaw; and sell both Seri and Anguissa to pay for him. Big mistake if you ask me.

Fulham FC will get so little profit from Seri and Anguissa, it's better to keep them and not buy Adam Forshaw. ROAD TO RUIN.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on June 16, 2019, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 11:08:25 AM
It seems FFC are looking to buy Adam Forshaw; and sell both Seri and Anguissa to pay for him.

Big mistake if you ask me, we get so little profit from Seri and Anguissa better to keep them and not buy Adam Forshaw.


Surely not!
These players were bought for our future, or so we were told?
But then again we were also told to expect multiple signings in Jan to improve the squad!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on June 16, 2019, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on June 15, 2019, 01:04:49 PM
TK for his faults picking players,from seeing the fees he's got in from player sales then this is a strength So can't see Mitro going without a profit for the club.
Mitroglu, Jozabed, Anguissa Seri profitable? (Just to name a few!), #JUSTSAYIN
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 11:50:10 AM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on June 16, 2019, 11:02:27 AM
Having to tell an international player to"Toughen up" at this stage in his career is not a cogent argument towards winning ways.
Expecting certain players to reproduce their "promotion form 2 seasons on is not reasonable or astute.
Basing what a player can do for you in English football on what he achieved in a foreign league is not wise or judicious.

Some players will Toughen UP. I saw evidence that Anguissa was toughening up at the end of last season.

Some players will produce their form from 18 months ago. I think Betts and Cairney can perform.

Sometimes overseas performance can predict English Performance. Wolves bring in overseas player can work.

I would point out the only alternative to "trusting these players" is "selling these players and using the tiny profits to buy cheap new players".
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on June 16, 2019, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 11:08:25 AM
It seems FFC are looking to buy Adam Forshaw; and sell both Seri and Anguissa to pay for him. Big mistake if you ask me.

Fulham FC will get so little profit from Seri and Anguissa, it's better to keep them and not buy Adam Forshaw. ROAD TO RUIN.

I tend to agree. I would like to see how Seri and Anguissa do in their second year with the club and this environment. I can Seri leaving though, which would leave me wondering if Anguissa wants out too.

All a bit too up in the air right now. Hopefully we can get some deals across the table in the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: RaySmith on June 16, 2019, 12:06:05 PM
I have a feeling that we could see one, or both of Seri and Anguisa,, featuring in the Championship for us, at least for a time.

Bryan Ruiz stayed at the club after relegation, probably not by his or the club's  choice, though didn't play regularly until Kit became manager.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Penfold on June 16, 2019, 12:12:44 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on June 16, 2019, 12:06:05 PM
I have a feeling that we could see one, or both of Seri and Anguisa,, featuring in the Championship for us, at least for a time.

Bryan Ruiz stayed at the club after relegation, probably not by his or the club's  choice, though didn't play regularly until Kit became manager.

Bryan only stayed as none of the clubs interested in signing him were prepared to pay the fee Fulham wanted. He didn't feature during August as we were hoping to sell him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.

If we sell Sessegnon for £20m profit, sell Seri for £20m loss, sell Mitrovoic for £10m profit and sell Anguissa for £10m loss, then we have sold four players and raised £0m.

ROAD TO RUIN. Selling Anguissa, Seri, Sessegnon and Mitrovoic without raising any money buy replacements. No wonder nearly ever team that has bounced back up hasn't sold many players. The worst time to sell a player is after relegation when his value is lowest and its also the worst time to buy cause players are scared its a sinking ship.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.

If we sell Sessegnon for £20m profit, Seri for £20m loss, Mitrovoic for £10m profit and Anguissa for £10m loss, then we have sold four players with £0m to buy new players.

ROAD TO RUIN. I'd prefer to give them a chance to get us out of the league than rely on kids to get us out of the Championship.

Then if the club takes your road, which is more of a dirt track with enough potholes for Fulhams wheels to come off, and the AA will not rescue them as having TK in his position disqualifies them and make Fulham exempt. It will be the mother of bumpy rides end with a multiple car crash with TK at the wheel. Plenty of three point turns to delay progress, the only good news for you is you will not be in any danger breaking the speed limit, more middle of the road delaying the traffic behind you, with your passengers in the back seat like Seri and Zambo to name but two, counting the days down to when they can jump ship.
As my Road will have fresh tarmac and unlike your un made road full of nails to puncture progress, there will be no yellow lines depicting a weak backbone. No red lines either, it will be a one way street with every player heading in the right direction, there will be no U turns. Mine will be a smooth ride with no traffic.
You will also lose your licence for driving a three wheeler without due care and attention and without an MOT.
The last thing you will see is my exhaust fumes way ahead in front of you accelerating in the distance.
Leaving you to fall off the back of your lorry, as you will be running on empty.
Happy Fathers Day. 🍺
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 16, 2019, 01:36:38 PM
Ho hum....no movement...another week gone.

Sess and Mitro ...

Are the odds stronger now that they stay or they go?

Mitro has to be let go and I don't see why the Khan's would do it.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 02:35:15 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.

If we sell Sessegnon for £20m profit, Seri for £20m loss, Mitrovoic for £10m profit and Anguissa for £10m loss, then we have sold four players with £0m to buy new players.

ROAD TO RUIN. I'd prefer to give them a chance to get us out of the league than rely on kids to get us out of the Championship.

Then if the club takes your road, which is more of a dirt track with enough potholes for Fulhams wheels to come off, and the AA will not rescue them as having TK in his position disqualifies them and make Fulham exempt. It will be the mother of bumpy rides end with a multiple car crash with TK at the wheel. Plenty of three point turns to delay progress, the only good news for you is you will not be in any danger breaking the speed limit, more middle of the road delaying the traffic behind you, with your passengers in the back seat like Seri and Zambo to name but two, counting the days down to when they can jump ship.
As my Road will have fresh tarmac and unlike your un made road full of nails to puncture progress, there will be no yellow lines depicting a weak backbone. No red lines either, it will be a one way street with every player heading in the right direction, there will be no U turns. Mine will be a smooth ride with no traffic.
You will also lose your licence for driving a three wheeler without due care and attention and without an MOT.
The last thing you will see is my exhaust fumes way ahead in front of you accelerating in the distance.
Leaving you to fall off the back of your lorry, as you will be running on empty.
Happy Fathers Day. 🍺

You're road maybe a fresh tarmac, but if your paying for it with the sales of Seri and Anguissa, the road will only be just long enough for a cricket pitch.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on June 16, 2019, 03:01:55 PM
Think the writing was on the wall with Seri after he didn't play in those final few months.

I think Anguissa and Mitrovic need to stay.

I think Sess will go.

All in all not too disastrous.

New right back, new winger, "go again".
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: elgreenio on June 16, 2019, 03:22:22 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.

If we sell Sessegnon for £20m profit, Seri for £20m loss, Mitrovoic for £10m profit and Anguissa for £10m loss, then we have sold four players with £0m to buy new players.

ROAD TO RUIN. I'd prefer to give them a chance to get us out of the league than rely on kids to get us out of the Championship.

Then if the club takes your road, which is more of a dirt track with enough potholes for Fulhams wheels to come off, and the AA will not rescue them as having TK in his position disqualifies them and make Fulham exempt. It will be the mother of bumpy rides end with a multiple car crash with TK at the wheel. Plenty of three point turns to delay progress, the only good news for you is you will not be in any danger breaking the speed limit, more middle of the road delaying the traffic behind you, with your passengers in the back seat like Seri and Zambo to name but two, counting the days down to when they can jump ship.
As my Road will have fresh tarmac and unlike your un made road full of nails to puncture progress, there will be no yellow lines depicting a weak backbone. No red lines either, it will be a one way street with every player heading in the right direction, there will be no U turns. Mine will be a smooth ride with no traffic.
You will also lose your licence for driving a three wheeler without due care and attention and without an MOT.
The last thing you will see is my exhaust fumes way ahead in front of you accelerating in the distance.
Leaving you to fall off the back of your lorry, as you will be running on empty.
Happy Fathers Day. 🍺

you ok Woolly?  :62:

on topic I'm still hoping Seri stays, i'd back him to be our player of the year next year
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on June 16, 2019, 03:49:44 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on June 16, 2019, 12:06:05 PM
I have a feeling that we could see one, or both of Seri and Anguisa,, featuring in the Championship for us, at least for a time.

Bryan Ruiz stayed at the club after relegation, probably not by his or the club's  choice, though didn't play regularly until Kit became manager.

Seri/Anguissa don't owe us anything and likely don't want to stay and play in the championship. If they get the chance to leave they will.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: RaySmith on June 16, 2019, 06:41:27 PM
But will they get the chance to leave - if Fulham don't agree terms with interested clubs?


I think it possible that both could do well if they stay, which I doubt they want to, but maybe won't have much choice. it would obviously be in their own interests to do well, if they have to stay.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on June 16, 2019, 06:58:00 PM
I like the rumour of Leo Bonatini a lot. He scored 12 goals for Wolves in our promotion season. That was his first season in the Championship too. Wish we had snagged him in January instead of Forest this past season. Think he would be a solid replacement for Mitro as well. Hope this is more than a rumour because I would absolutely love him as a signing.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 07:01:41 PM
Quote from: elgreenio on June 16, 2019, 03:22:22 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.

If we sell Sessegnon for £20m profit, Seri for £20m loss, Mitrovoic for £10m profit and Anguissa for £10m loss, then we have sold four players with £0m to buy new players.

ROAD TO RUIN. I'd prefer to give them a chance to get us out of the league than rely on kids to get us out of the Championship.

Then if the club takes your road, which is more of a dirt track with enough potholes for Fulhams wheels to come off, and the AA will not rescue them as having TK in his position disqualifies them and make Fulham exempt. It will be the mother of bumpy rides end with a multiple car crash with TK at the wheel. Plenty of three point turns to delay progress, the only good news for you is you will not be in any danger breaking the speed limit, more middle of the road delaying the traffic behind you, with your passengers in the back seat like Seri and Zambo to name but two, counting the days down to when they can jump ship.
As my Road will have fresh tarmac and unlike your un made road full of nails to puncture progress, there will be no yellow lines depicting a weak backbone. No red lines either, it will be a one way street with every player heading in the right direction, there will be no U turns. Mine will be a smooth ride with no traffic.
You will also lose your licence for driving a three wheeler without due care and attention and without an MOT.
The last thing you will see is my exhaust fumes way ahead in front of you accelerating in the distance.
Leaving you to fall off the back of your lorry, as you will be running on empty.
Happy Fathers Day. 🍺

you ok Woolly?  :62:

on topic I'm still hoping Seri stays, i'd back him to be our player of the year next year

Unfortunately I am feeling terrible elgreenio but thanks for asking. I hope you are right about Seri as it will mean another problem solved.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woodlawn on June 16, 2019, 07:11:50 PM
Spoke to a certain Newcastle player(yes that one) today in Portugal . Wouldn't give much away but said he expects changes at Newcastle in next month..Asked about us and he said just spec. Also said he is staying in the Algarve till end of June as not back in training till 4th July
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on June 16, 2019, 07:25:43 PM
Just my thoughts. Sell Sess for a minimum of £25 mil but to include a 50% sell on clause & no loan to a Championship side. If we have to, sell Mitrovic for a minimum of £50 mil. Sell Seri for what we can get. Buy Gayle, Assambolonga, a Dominant CB, a DM to cover McDonald & a RB. Champions elect.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on June 16, 2019, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: Woodlawn on June 16, 2019, 07:11:50 PM
Spoke to a certain Newcastle player(yes that one) today in Portugal . Wouldn't give much away but said he expects changes at Newcastle in next month..Asked about us and he said just spec. Also said he is staying in the Algarve till end of June as not back in training till 4th July

You've lost me, which Newcastle player ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 16, 2019, 08:12:26 PM
Gayle I should think.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 07:53:46 AM
Radio Ga Ga.
" Fulham in bid to bring Neil Etheridge back"
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 17, 2019, 08:56:11 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 07:53:46 AM
Radio Ga Ga.
" Fulham in bid to bring Neil Etheridge back"
Apparently we had a bid rejected last month, bid circa 8 million according to the press
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on June 17, 2019, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: junior white on June 17, 2019, 08:56:11 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 07:53:46 AM
Radio Ga Ga.
" Fulham in bid to bring Neil Etheridge back"
Apparently we had a bid rejected last month, bid circa 8 million according to the press

Saw a few howlers from him last season. I don´t think he is better overall than Betts.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on June 17, 2019, 09:29:19 AM
I first heard the rumour that Harvey Elliott would not be signing a contract at least six months ago. There is nothing new is this decision and his mind must have been made up before then presumably with his agent pulling the strings. He is too young to have had expectations of walking straight into the first team at that time so something or someone must have influenced his decision.
Relegation would have only improved rather than reduced his opportunity to showcase himself for a future move so I am sorry to say that there can only be something wrong at the club or more likely a young lads head has been turned by the opportunities of short term big bucks!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on June 17, 2019, 09:43:41 AM
Why is there something wrong at the club if a young player leaves? It's not like Chelsea where such players do not get first team opportunities. It's possibly agents telling them they are better than they are. I can't recall any of the youngsters who have left so far excelling when they have gone. Roberts and Hyndman being prime examples.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 17, 2019, 09:56:08 AM
Quote from: snarks on June 17, 2019, 09:43:41 AM
Why is there something wrong at the club if a young player leaves? It's not like Chelsea where such players do not get first team opportunities. It's possibly agents telling them they are better than they are. I can't recall any of the youngsters who have left so far excelling when they have gone. Roberts and Hyndman being prime examples.
good point,remember Briggs,what happened to him,harvey might not make the cut who knows.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 17, 2019, 10:01:27 AM
Quote from: snarks on June 17, 2019, 09:43:41 AM
Why is there something wrong at the club if a young player leaves? It's not like Chelsea where such players do not get first team opportunities. It's possibly agents telling them they are better than they are. I can't recall any of the youngsters who have left so far excelling when they have gone. Roberts and Hyndman being prime examples.

I do agree but Dembele has done alright and I think Roberts will also come good and coudl of been better had he stayed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on June 17, 2019, 10:19:32 AM
The fact that Roberts and Hyndman have not progressed quickly in a way proves my point because they could have just as easily worked their way up at Fulham and then moved on. Hyndman was advised to move on a year before he did by the then USA  manager (exGerman international?) so he obviously thought that he need experience elsewhere. He is still on the edge of the first team
It is rumoured that the club will only deal with certain agents and that does not include some of the biggest that certain of our players have signed up for.
I don't know how true this is and if so why ?  Dromeh (sorry about the spelling) gone, Elliott going, and O'Reilly next. Probably followed by Ryan and Steven.
All of a sudden the cupboard is bare of young talent to an extent that has never occurred before.
Agents yes, but the club must take some blame for this.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on June 17, 2019, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on June 17, 2019, 10:19:32 AM
The fact that Roberts and Hyndman have not progressed quickly in a way proves my point because they could have just as easily worked their way up at Fulham and then moved on. Hyndman was advised to move on a year before he did by the then USA  manager (exGerman international?) so he obviously thought that he need experience elsewhere. He is still on the edge of the first team
It is rumoured that the club will only deal with certain agents and that does not include some of the biggest that certain of our players have signed up for.
I don't know how true this is and if so why ?  Dromeh (sorry about the spelling) gone, Elliott going, and O'Reilly next. Probably followed by Ryan and Steven.
All of a sudden the cupboard is bare of young talent to an extent that has never occurred before.
Agents yes, but the club must take some blame for this.

How can you blame the club for Youth players not signing a contract!!?? they all want everything right away and that the way it is, I just hope they end up playing non league football (like Briggs) after they are released because they could not full fill their promise.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ara's bacon crisps on June 17, 2019, 11:16:58 AM
Maybe we should employ Briggs in our Academy as an advisor to give our young superstars a little reality check.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 17, 2019, 11:18:08 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 07:53:46 AM
Radio Ga Ga.
" Fulham in bid to bring Neil Etheridge back"

I hope not, I don't rate him like some, we have better potential Goalkeepers coming through our ranks, spending precious money on him would be a waste. He would not be a step up.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on June 17, 2019, 12:29:58 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 17, 2019, 11:18:08 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 07:53:46 AM
Radio Ga Ga.
" Fulham in bid to bring Neil Etheridge back"

I hope not, I don't rate him like some, we have better potential Goalkeepers coming through our ranks, spending precious money on him would be a waste. He would not be a step up.

Agreed, unless it something to do with the number of Home grown players needed I cant see the point, ,but surely Betts and Rodak on the bench would cover that, unless secretly he an outstanding centre back 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: N_O_W_S on June 17, 2019, 12:33:16 PM
Quote from: grandad on June 16, 2019, 07:25:43 PM
Just my thoughts. Sell Sess for a minimum of £25 mil but to include a 50% sell on clause & no loan to a Championship side. If we have to, sell Mitrovic for a minimum of £50 mil. Sell Seri for what we can get. Buy Gayle, Assambolonga, a Dominant CB, a DM to cover McDonald & a RB. Champions elect.

No buying club is going to agree to a 50% sell on clause. It's usually something max like 10% and only on youth players who are a bit of a gamble / important sell for the future of a small club.

Tottenham, for instance, are never going to agree to a 50% sell on clause with  Fulham.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on June 17, 2019, 12:47:37 PM
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on June 17, 2019, 11:16:58 AM
Maybe we should employ Briggs in our Academy as an advisor to give our young superstars a little reality check.

:54:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: aaronmcguigan on June 17, 2019, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on June 17, 2019, 10:19:32 AM
The fact that Roberts and Hyndman have not progressed quickly in a way proves my point because they could have just as easily worked their way up at Fulham and then moved on.

We finished 20th the year before these 2 left. If anyone stays at our club while being offered a chance to move to a newly promoted team in Bournemouth or top team like city in favour of a club with no direction, led by a headless chicken with no experience like kit symons is he worried.
We don't have a great record with developing youth or giving sustained chances to youth so why would theee guys stick around.

Our academy has a great reputation in terms of development which is why young players are attracted but there is little history of them breaking through so yea Roberts and Hyndmans, Elliott and Drameh decisions are totally justified until we get to a point where we create a culture of including the academy graduates in the first team to allow them to develop .
As for barring them from the first team until they go with an acceptable agent, that is just laughable behaviour from the club
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on June 17, 2019, 06:10:38 PM
Quote from: grandad on June 16, 2019, 07:25:43 PM
Just my thoughts. Sell Sess for a minimum of £25 mil but to include a 50% sell on clause & no loan to a Championship side. If we have to, sell Mitrovic for a minimum of £50 mil. Sell Seri for what we can get. Buy Gayle, Assambolonga, a Dominant CB, a DM to cover McDonald & a RB. Champions elect.
Yes that is the obvious route Parker and the procurement team should be looking at but the trick is to avoid more duds for the centre back and right back positions.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 06:16:43 PM
WBA want Gayle back.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on June 17, 2019, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 06:16:43 PM
WBA want Gayle back.
Any one surprised at that, the question of course is can they afford him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 17, 2019, 07:52:35 PM
Gayle can't see him at Fulham as it would have happened before!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rambler on June 17, 2019, 09:50:28 PM
What is going on with our academy at the moment? Heavy rumours that we are about to lose 3 or 4 of our top youth prospects for peanuts as they all reject new deals.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on June 17, 2019, 10:15:35 PM
1st team squad back at Motspur Park in just 5 days time, one or two in before then would be nice, integration  is everything, something that we've failed at miserably the last two summer's to allow enough time for.
Lessons must be learnt.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 17, 2019, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: Rambler on June 17, 2019, 09:50:28 PM
What is going on with our academy at the moment? Heavy rumours that we are about to lose 3 or 4 of our top youth prospects for peanuts as they all reject new deals.
Basically Agents telling their charges they are worth more and can earn more elsewhere.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on June 17, 2019, 10:22:12 PM
Why not pay them what they want and sign them to 3 year contracts and then flog them in a year, if they are that good how can we lose out? Unless they are not that good of course!

Or is that stating the bleeding obvious.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 17, 2019, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on June 17, 2019, 10:22:12 PM
Why not pay them what they want and sign them to 3 year contracts and then flog them in a year, if they are that good how can we lose out? Unless they are not that good of course!

Or is that stating the bleeding obvious.
Sounds obvious, one rumour doing the rounds is Elliot wants circa 10k per week, don't know and don't care if it is true. But that's a lot of money

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on June 17, 2019, 11:02:24 PM
According to a poster on another site who watches a lot of games at Motspur most of those mentioned are a long long way from the first team.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 02:08:58 AM
Quote from: sarnian on June 17, 2019, 11:02:24 PM
According to a poster on another site who watches a lot of games at Motspur most of those mentioned are a long long way from the first team.

Our u23 clearly aren't as good as the u23 at Reading (that couldn't make the Reading first team), losing three times to them concededing 8 goals in four games.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 18, 2019, 05:44:00 AM
Are our youngsters that good?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on June 18, 2019, 06:19:03 AM
Anyone think Gayle can play the lone striker?  Because I don't and with our vulnerable defence we can't play a midfield two.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mancwhite on June 18, 2019, 07:50:10 AM
Luca Connell good young player at Bolton with potential
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on June 18, 2019, 08:12:08 AM
Quote from: Rambler on June 17, 2019, 09:50:28 PM
What is going on with our academy at the moment? Heavy rumours that we are about to lose 3 or 4 of our top youth prospects for peanuts as they all reject new deals.

Its because they have been offered their first contract but think they can do better elsewhere so the club cannot do a thing about it!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on June 18, 2019, 08:39:55 AM
Quote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.

Tw*t if true. He will get minutes here and that's what he needs.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AM
Quote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.

If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on June 18, 2019, 08:52:30 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on June 18, 2019, 05:44:00 AM
Are our youngsters that good?


This is my point Hove, if the club has valued them and they want more from the Club then they cant be worth it. And with young players as we know, they don't always meet their potential.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AM
Quote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.

If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.

He can't sign a five year contract due to his age.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 09:35:31 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AM
Quote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.

If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.

He can't sign a five year contract due to his age.

So whats the choice, is it "if we don't pay Elliott £520k next season we'll lose him now, if we do then we'll lose just after his 17th Birthday for free".
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 18, 2019, 09:52:30 AM
I got 12/6d a week at his age for my paper round.
Great bag fill of broadsheets and a "Spic and  Span" for the weirdo at no 28.😁
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 09:35:31 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AM
Quote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.

If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.

He can't sign a five year contract due to his age.

So whats the choice, is it "if we don't pay Elliott £520k next season we'll lose him now, if we do then we'll lose just after his 17th Birthday for free".

No, that's not it since we don't know the numbers. We can choose how much we are prepared to pay him now for the next year, whatever that sum may be. If he disagrees he is gone. He could also have non-financial reasons to want to move, and may be gone even if we offer him stupid amounts.

Then we have the same procedure next year if he stays, with the opportunity for us to offer an actual professional contract up to three years (like the ones the Sessegnon's and Matt O'Riley signed, with Steven Sess having already signed another extension). So, in short yes, he can opt to leave this year and he can do the same next year. If he goes abroad we will get basically nothing at all in compensation. This is not at all in the hands of the club, other than that they have a few more days to convince him by whatever means. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 18, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 09:35:31 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AM
Quote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.

If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.

He can't sign a five year contract due to his age.

So whats the choice, is it "if we don't pay Elliott £520k next season we'll lose him now, if we do then we'll lose just after his 17th Birthday for free".

No, that's not it since we don't know the numbers. We can choose how much we are prepared to pay him now for the next year, whatever that sum may be. If he disagrees he is gone. He could also have non-financial reasons to want to move, and may be gone even if we offer him stupid amounts.

Then we have the same procedure next year if he stays, with the opportunity for us to offer an actual professional contract up to three years (like the ones the Sessegnon's and Matt O'Riley signed, with Steven Sess having already signed another extension). So, in short yes, he can opt to leave this year and he can do the same next year. If he goes abroad we will get basically nothing at all in compensation. This is not at all in the hands of the club, other than that they have a few more days to convince him by whatever means.
Just to clarify i said the 10k was a rumour floating around. But due to his age the longest deal we can offer is a 3 year contract i believe.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on June 18, 2019, 10:23:53 AM
It seems to me there has been a group of promising youngsters coming through for quite a few seasons now.
Ever since we lost to "that team" in the FA youth cup final some years ago the expectation has been that we have talented youngsters and its only a matter of time before some make the first team.
There's been sporadic break through's but it hasn't really happened to our benefit apart from Demble and Sess.
Adenirian, Edun, Williams, Grimmer, Kavanagh, Christensen to name a few have all failed to make the grade at Championship level.
Now there are new names in the group of potential youngsters who are failing to break through so maybe they have talent but the clubs producing players who play nice thoughtful football but lack the spark to make the grade?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 09:35:31 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AM
Quote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.

If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.

He can't sign a five year contract due to his age.

So whats the choice, is it "if we don't pay Elliott £520k next season we'll lose him now, if we do then we'll lose just after his 17th Birthday for free".

No, that's not it since we don't know the numbers. We can choose how much we are prepared to pay him now for the next year, whatever that sum may be. If he disagrees he is gone. He could also have non-financial reasons to want to move, and may be gone even if we offer him stupid amounts.

Then we have the same procedure next year if he stays, with the opportunity for us to offer an actual professional contract up to three years (like the ones the Sessegnon's and Matt O'Riley signed, with Steven Sess having already signed another extension). So, in short yes, he can opt to leave this year and he can do the same next year. If he goes abroad we will get basically nothing at all in compensation. This is not at all in the hands of the club, other than that they have a few more days to convince him by whatever means.

If Harvey Elliott becomes £100 million player, how much will QPR get for developing him from a kid to 15 years old?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: junior white on June 18, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Just to clarify i said the 10k was a rumour floating around. But due to his age the longest deal we can offer is a 3 year contract i believe.

I don't think we can offer him a 3 year contract until he is 17, which is next spring. In order to get something financially out of this, we will have to convince him to stay for a year and then convince him to sign a contract next year.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 18, 2019, 12:50:41 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: junior white on June 18, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Just to clarify i said the 10k was a rumour floating around. But due to his age the longest deal we can offer is a 3 year contract i believe.

I don't think we can offer him a 3 year contract until he is 17, which is next spring. In order to get something financially out of this, we will have to convince him to stay for a year and then convince him to sign a contract next year.
Yuen's my mistake i thought he was 17
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 18, 2019, 01:16:43 PM
Frank Ribery to Sheff Utd is being rumoured.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on June 18, 2019, 01:21:27 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: junior white on June 18, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Just to clarify i said the 10k was a rumour floating around. But due to his age the longest deal we can offer is a 3 year contract i believe.

I don't think we can offer him a 3 year contract until he is 17, which is next spring. In order to get something financially out of this, we will have to convince him to stay for a year and then convince him to sign a contract next year.

isn't there rules around under 18s moving abroad, isn't that what Chelsea got done for.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on June 18, 2019, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 18, 2019, 01:21:27 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: junior white on June 18, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Just to clarify i said the 10k was a rumour floating around. But due to his age the longest deal we can offer is a 3 year contract i believe.

I don't think we can offer him a 3 year contract until he is 17, which is next spring. In order to get something financially out of this, we will have to convince him to stay for a year and then convince him to sign a contract next year.

isn't there rules around under 18s moving abroad, isn't that what Chelsea got done for.
The work around is something to do with migration, EU member states and both his parents are originally from Spain.
Nothing will happen until he is back from holibobs with his family in Portugal.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on June 19, 2019, 12:15:46 AM
Score update
QPR 3
Fulham 0
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 07:34:22 AM
Quote from: Riversider on June 19, 2019, 12:15:46 AM
Score update
QPR 3
Fulham 0

Hopefully we will at least go for far better players. They are not looking like they aim for the PL with those transfers, to put it kindly.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 19, 2019, 07:55:36 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 07:34:22 AM
Quote from: Riversider on June 19, 2019, 12:15:46 AM
Score update
QPR 3
Fulham 0

Hopefully we will at least go for far better players. They are not looking like they aim for the PL with those transfers, to put it kindly.

The keeper is highly rated,don't know why he chose Ha Ha's as Celtic,WBA and Leipzig were in for him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jem on June 19, 2019, 08:27:48 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 19, 2019, 07:55:36 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 07:34:22 AM
Quote from: Riversider on June 19, 2019, 12:15:46 AM
Score update
QPR 3
Fulham 0

Hopefully we will at least go for far better players. They are not looking like they aim for the PL with those transfers, to put it kindly.

The keeper is highly rated,don't know why he chose Ha Ha's as Celtic,WBA and Leipzig were in for him.

London and the hope that he might play for the Toffs up the road one day.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 09:20:26 AM
Or maybe the interest from the other clubs was not that high, or they saw him as mainly a back up? I will confess though that I know nothing about him other than him having played in the SPL. Any way I see no real indications that he a future star, but you never know, especially with goalies.

My point was however more that I rather us get good players than early transfers, and I wouldn't really start to worry for a few weeks yet. Even though some transfers happen every day, it is still early in the window with low visible activity for most teams.

Lots of internal pieces for Fulham to put into place (who stays, who leaves, how to convince the youngsters) that may greatly impact our activity on the transfer market. One would at least hope that they are hard at work figuring stuff out. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 19, 2019, 03:40:16 PM
Charlie Adam having a medical.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 03:51:46 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 19, 2019, 03:40:16 PM
Charlie Adam having a medical.

Imagine!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.

Surely they have both email and phones in the United States?  Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.

Surely they have both email and phones in the United States?  Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?

I'm not sure how people can expect him to do anything while he's away with AEW, its a full time job, until he's back he won't realistically have any time for transfer business, and nothing can be signed off without him. Its not like he's away on a relaxing break and can take calls regarding something else, he is working setting up a brand new company from scratch.

There is no point us even speculating until he's back, nothing can be done until then due to our system. He is required to approve and sign off all transfers, and scouting/stats all come under him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 04:13:23 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.

Surely they have both email and phones in the United States?  Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?

I'm not sure how people can expect him to do anything while he's away with AEW, its a full time job, until he's back he won't realistically have any time for transfer business, and nothing can be signed off without him. Its not like he's away on a relaxing break and can take calls regarding something else, he is working setting up a brand new company from scratch.

There is no point us even speculating until he's back, nothing can be done until then due to our system. He is required to approve and sign off all transfers, and scouting/stats all come under him.

So you mean that not only is it not possible for TK to work on more than one thing at a time, but him not being in the UK also means that no other person involved in transfers can do anything? I don't think that TK is personally doing everything from actual data analysis to scouting to every single part of negotiations for every inbound and outbound transfer.

This is surely complete nonsense. I mean, it is of course possible that TK is completely ignoring FFC at the moment, but that is obviously not because it would be impossible for a person to work on multiple projects simultaneously. And again, things can be handled remotely, this goes also for approvals and sign offs.

Lastly, regardless of the above, why would we not speculate in the meantime?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 19, 2019, 04:26:50 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.

Surely they have both email and phones in the United States?  Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?

I'm not sure how people can expect him to do anything while he's away with AEW, its a full time job, until he's back he won't realistically have any time for transfer business, and nothing can be signed off without him. Its not like he's away on a relaxing break and can take calls regarding something else, he is working setting up a brand new company from scratch.

There is no point us even speculating until he's back, nothing can be done until then due to our system. He is required to approve and sign off all transfers, and scouting/stats all come under him.

AEW is far from a full time job at the moment. They're running one show a month until they start their weekly TV in October/November and they don't have another "major" show until the end of August. I know they might have sponsor meetings etc. but there's already a network around him for talent relations etc. so that it's not going to take up Tony Khan's whole life.

It's also interesting how you're assuming he's a one man band of sorts when people like Scott Parker and Brian Talbot will be almost as involved, if not as involved when it comes to talent identification. Plus, he does have a phone. He doesn't have to be in at Motspur Park welcoming a potential signing through the door. In fact, isn't the main criticism of Tony Khan that he "does everything" with regard to signings on a computer?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on June 19, 2019, 04:41:36 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.

Surely they have both email and phones in the United States?  Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?

I'm not sure how people can expect him to do anything while he's away with AEW, its a full time job, until he's back he won't realistically have any time for transfer business, and nothing can be signed off without him. Its not like he's away on a relaxing break and can take calls regarding something else, he is working setting up a brand new company from scratch.

There is no point us even speculating until he's back, nothing can be done until then due to our system. He is required to approve and sign off all transfers, and scouting/stats all come under him.

This issue crossed my mind yesterday when I saw his Steve Austin (yes, the wrestler) post on social media.

I notice he now describes himself as our "owner", which is odd in itself, but also he refers to himself as the boss of the Jaguars, his AEW wrestling business, his data analytics business and some other music/events business.

So not only do we have a DoF who substantially zero relevant skills or experience, but also a DoF who's likely only allocating a relatively small portion of time to the role.

you couldn't make it up
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on June 19, 2019, 04:48:22 PM
You would think if you knew relatively nothing about a subject you'd at least spend all your time getting to know it!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 19, 2019, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Milo on June 19, 2019, 04:48:22 PM
You would think if you knew relatively nothing about a subject you'd at least spend all your time getting to know it!
he's an ignoramus
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on June 19, 2019, 06:50:59 PM
According to reports on Twitter, we've turned down €20M for Mitro and most clubs are put off signing him because he's on £70k a week. Dean Jones who's a Fulham supporting journo says we're planning to offer him a TC style extension which waives his relegation clause, and if so would be some statement of intent to keep him for at least one more season - just a shame Sess has his heart set on stunting his development as a benchwarmer...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 19, 2019, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 19, 2019, 03:40:16 PM
Charlie Adam having a medical.

Has failed it .......at Blackburn.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on June 19, 2019, 07:20:10 PM
Quote from: Rambler on June 17, 2019, 09:50:28 PM
What is going on with our academy at the moment? Heavy rumours that we are about to lose 3 or 4 of our top youth prospects for peanuts as they all reject new deals.

Give the kids sone credit. Would you stay at a club like this?

Its run like chicken night in Turkey.
Lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on June 19, 2019, 07:28:24 PM


This issue crossed my mind yesterday when I saw his Steve Austin (yes, the wrestler) post on social media.

I notice he now describes himself as our "owner", which is odd in itself, but also he refers to himself as the boss of the Jaguars, his AEW wrestling business, his data analytics business and some other music/events business.

So not only do we have a DoF who substantially zero relevant skills or experience, but also a DoF who's likely only allocating a relatively small portion of time to the role.

you couldn't make it up
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Do you want to tell Steve Austin he doesnt know what he is doing?  LOL
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: west kowloon white on June 19, 2019, 07:34:37 PM
How many times can you post exactly the same thing/ opiniated criticism- gets extremely boring to troll through.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on June 19, 2019, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 19, 2019, 06:50:59 PM
According to reports on Twitter, we've turned down €20M for Mitro and most clubs are put off signing him because he's on £70k a week. Dean Jones who's a Fulham supporting journo says we're planning to offer him a TC style extension which waives his relegation clause, and if so would be some statement of intent to keep him for at least one more season - just a shame Sess has his heart set on stunting his development as a benchwarmer...

Do we know how much the clause is? I'd be fuming if we sold for less than we bought him for. Hopefully his poor end of season form is what they remember.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 19, 2019, 09:42:53 PM
Does anyone really think Tony Khan is going to let a potential suitor for Mitro or Sess low ball bid his family?    They'd rather lose them on a free if for no other reason than pride.

Mitro had a crap end of season and potential suitors are going to try to use that to lower his transfer price.

The Khans on the other hand remember explicitly the 17/18 season.  They aren't going to sell him for less than what they paid for him.   They don't need the money.


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 10:46:14 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 19, 2019, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 19, 2019, 06:50:59 PM
According to reports on Twitter, we've turned down €20M for Mitro and most clubs are put off signing him because he's on £70k a week. Dean Jones who's a Fulham supporting journo says we're planning to offer him a TC style extension which waives his relegation clause, and if so would be some statement of intent to keep him for at least one more season - just a shame Sess has his heart set on stunting his development as a benchwarmer...

Do we know how much the clause is? I'd be fuming if we sold for less than we bought him for. Hopefully his poor end of season form is what they remember.

I don't think he has a release clause, but that the clause referred to is a wage reduction clause that kicked in because of the relegation. It is rumored that most expensive players had one. By offering Mitro a new or amended contract, he could stay on his high wages despite of the clause, as an additional incentive to stay at the club.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on June 19, 2019, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.

Agree
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 20, 2019, 12:28:01 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 19, 2019, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.

Agree

If Sessegnon wins a "match of the match" for u21 England in the next few days, then Fulham will get a huge payday soon and i wouldn't be selling Mitro if we have plenty of cash.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on June 20, 2019, 12:49:07 AM
I would give anything to one day click on the summer transfer gossip thread, to actually read some transfer gossip !
Not too much to ask is it ?
Can we save all the banal crap for a separate thread.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 20, 2019, 05:32:05 AM
Quote from: Riversider on June 20, 2019, 12:49:07 AM
I would give anything to one day click on the summer transfer gossip thread, to actually read some transfer gossip !
Not too much to ask is it ?
Can we save all the banal crap for a separate thread.
I think the mods said it doesn't have to be factual on this thread.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
There are  plenty of people out there in the work place who don't have a history in the industry they're working in. They're there because of their particular skill set. The Chairman's stated aim is to make the Club a sustainable entity. He obviously believes his son and his son's system can deliver that.
It's far from a perfect model but given the Chairman has spent money improving the training facilities and is now replacing the riverside stand I'm happy to think on balance he knows what needs to be done at the club and by who.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: toshes mate on June 20, 2019, 08:16:53 AM
Quote from: Riversider on June 20, 2019, 12:49:07 AM
I would give anything to one day click on the summer transfer gossip thread, to actually read some transfer gossip !
Not too much to ask is it ?
Can we save all the banal crap for a separate thread.
It is Gossip Thread.  You'll find the Gospel Truth somewhere else but not for quite a while I fancy.

Upon the subject of a certain TK's preoccupations this time of year, could it be that he has been reined in a little by his father, with somebody else taking a turn at calling the shots at MP?

Mitro also scored a brace in a recent international for Serbia and so his goal lapse has, in a way, been broken.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 20, 2019, 08:23:52 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 20, 2019, 12:28:01 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 19, 2019, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.

Agree

If Sessegnon wins a "match of the match" for u21 England in the next few days, then Fulham will get a huge payday soon and i wouldn't be selling Mitro if we have plenty of cash.

I know I have challenged this, in my opinion, extremely narrow view before, but really Sessegnon has already proved himself in far more competitive environments than an under 21 tournament. I would guess that any impact on price is marginal at best, regardless of whether he stink or shine. Any half decent professional would instead already have watched many of his over 100 senior games if they were seriously interested in buying Sessegnon. But what do I know.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 20, 2019, 10:13:26 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 20, 2019, 08:23:52 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 20, 2019, 12:28:01 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 19, 2019, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.

Agree

If Sessegnon wins a "match of the match" for u21 England in the next few days, then Fulham will get a huge payday soon and i wouldn't be selling Mitro if we have plenty of cash.

I know I have challenged this, in my opinion, extremely narrow view before, but really Sessegnon has already proved himself in far more competitive environments than an under 21 tournament. I would guess that any impact on price is marginal at best, regardless of whether he stink or shine. Any half decent professional would instead already have watched many of his over 100 senior games if they were seriously interested in buying Sessegnon. But what do I know.
Tend to agree they should have, but I would also say that if they watched some of the performances last season then the fee may well have reduced. I do say that taking into account as a team we didnt play well a lot of the time and the clueless Ranieri damaging his confidence.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 10:18:11 AM
Obviously no sign or word of anyone signing then.😠
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on June 20, 2019, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 10:18:11 AM
Obviously no sign or word of anyone signing then.😠
They've (FFC) learnt from their mistakes and are working (or was it w@n king)  tirelessly behind the scenes to bring in players before the 31st of August...

Wonder which injured players they are looking this season?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: toshes mate on June 20, 2019, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: junior white on June 20, 2019, 10:13:26 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 20, 2019, 08:23:52 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 20, 2019, 12:28:01 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 19, 2019, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.

Agree

If Sessegnon wins a "match of the match" for u21 England in the next few days, then Fulham will get a huge payday soon and i wouldn't be selling Mitro if we have plenty of cash.

I know I have challenged this, in my opinion, extremely narrow view before, but really Sessegnon has already proved himself in far more competitive environments than an under 21 tournament. I would guess that any impact on price is marginal at best, regardless of whether he stink or shine. Any half decent professional would instead already have watched many of his over 100 senior games if they were seriously interested in buying Sessegnon. But what do I know.
Tend to agree they should have, but I would also say that if they watched some of the performances last season then the fee may well have reduced. I do say that taking into account as a team we didnt play well a lot of the time and the clueless Ranieri damaging his confidence.
Watching the first England u21 game I did feel the leftovers from Ranieri's senseless actions are still haunting the teenager.  RS could do with some serious work from people he has turned to in the past and that may be SP rather than anyone else.   He has a tough call to make for himself but I feel the contract extension is a whole separate issue which FFC may be handling with a lot of latitude on both sides.   Of course we will not know what happens behind the scenes and we will get frustrated by that but I wouldn't want to call it right now in the way some people are calling it.  The Ranieri period will have demonstrated to RS just how one decision made by owners of a club can change the way you feel about life.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on June 20, 2019, 12:35:49 PM
If Wan- Bissaka has a £50 mil price tag Sess must be worth £100 mil in comparison. He was dreadful the whole game. Mind you Sess was not much better.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 12:42:37 PM
I'm starting to think maybe nobody will make a bid for him and they'll all wait till his contract has ended and then all dive in with offers. Be cheaper than paying Fulham a fee.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on June 20, 2019, 01:22:49 PM
Quote from: David I on June 20, 2019, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 10:18:11 AM
Obviously no sign or word of anyone signing then.😠
They've (FFC) learnt from their mistakes and are working (or was it w@n king)  tirelessly behind the scenes to bring in players before the 31st of August...

Wonder which injured players they are looking this season?


Shame the window closes 20 days earlier.  :dead horse:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on June 20, 2019, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
There are  plenty of people out there in the work place who don't have a history in the industry they're working in. They're there because of their particular skill set.

I accept there are roles for people with a different "skill set". Psychologists to work with the players, even mathematics and IT experts to support the use of statistics in player recruitment, etc.

The problem with TK is not only does he have no background in football, but he doesn't appear to have any relevant qualifications, experience or skills at all.

When he became involved in Fulham, he was 30 years old. His friend whose name we no longer mention was a law graduate (which BTW, requires full time study to at least the age of 24 in the US) who TK had met at college. They were not, for example, a couple of maths geniuses who decided to apply their data analytical skills to football. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 01:40:43 PM
I'm getting restless.
Somebody just make up a signing,that might make the boring wait go away.😠
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2019, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
There are  plenty of people out there in the work place who don't have a history in the industry they're working in. They're there because of their particular skill set.

I accept there are roles for people with a different "skill set". Psychologists to work with the players, even mathematics and IT experts to support the use of statistics in player recruitment, etc.

The problem with TK is not only does he have no background in football, but he doesn't appear to have any relevant qualifications, experience or skills at all.

When he became involved in Fulham, he was 30 years old. His friend whose name we no longer mention was a law graduate (which BTW, requires full time study to at least the age of 24 in the US) who TK had met at college. They were not, for example, a couple of maths geniuses who decided to apply their data analytical skills to football.

So he's only in the job because his dad owns the Club?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 20, 2019, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2019, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
There are  plenty of people out there in the work place who don't have a history in the industry they're working in. They're there because of their particular skill set.

I accept there are roles for people with a different "skill set". Psychologists to work with the players, even mathematics and IT experts to support the use of statistics in player recruitment, etc.

The problem with TK is not only does he have no background in football, but he doesn't appear to have any relevant qualifications, experience or skills at all.

When he became involved in Fulham, he was 30 years old. His friend whose name we no longer mention was a law graduate (which BTW, requires full time study to at least the age of 24 in the US) who TK had met at college. They were not, for example, a couple of maths geniuses who decided to apply their data analytical skills to football.

So he's only in the job because his dad owns the Club?

As a short answer, I would guess "yes". It is of course a bit more complex than that more often than not, in almost all situations. He is probably in the job because his dad owns the club, and because he wanted the challenge and made a case for himself, and because his dad believes that he can do a good enough job. It is hard to see any other obvious reasons. Or maybe rather ask yourself, would he be in the job if his dad didn't own the club? Because I don't think he would be anywhere near such a position in such a big club.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 05:18:40 PM
The Chairmans done pretty well for himself so I guess he's a bit savvy. I'd agree with you Sting, that without his dad owning the club he wouldn't be in this particular job. I don't believe he'd let him do the job though unless he was convinced he was capable and would protect his asset long term.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on June 20, 2019, 05:54:25 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 04:13:23 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.

Surely they have both email and phones in the United States?  Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?

I'm not sure how people can expect him to do anything while he's away with AEW, its a full time job, until he's back he won't realistically have any time for transfer business, and nothing can be signed off without him. Its not like he's away on a relaxing break and can take calls regarding something else, he is working setting up a brand new company from scratch.

There is no point us even speculating until he's back, nothing can be done until then due to our system. He is required to approve and sign off all transfers, and scouting/stats all come under him.

So you mean that not only is it not possible for TK to work on more than one thing at a time, but him not being in the UK also means that no other person involved in transfers can do anything? I don't think that TK is personally doing everything from actual data analysis to scouting to every single part of negotiations for every inbound and outbound transfer.

This is surely complete nonsense. I mean, it is of course possible that TK is completely ignoring FFC at the moment, but that is obviously not because it would be impossible for a person to work on multiple projects simultaneously. And again, things can be handled remotely, this goes also for approvals and sign offs.

Lastly, regardless of the above, why would we not speculate in the meantime?

He is currently away with AEW, that is taking all of hsi time currently, he will then split his time upon returning between us, AEW and the Jags.

I didn't say he is doing everything as a one man band, I just said that without him here to sign off on things, they scouts etc can only go on previous instruction, and no negotiations/deals can't be completed, this is a fact, its how our recruitment system works. He must personally sign off on any deals or they don't get completed.

Ideally we'd have DOF without any other roles, as DOF of a professional football club should be a full time role. Unfortunately we don't have that option.

Its fine, speculate all you want, I'm just telling you its pointless as nothing will be happening currently regarding bringing new faces in any further than producing a list of names, things will start once Tony Khan is back from working on his other roles.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on June 20, 2019, 05:55:11 PM
Quote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2019, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
There are  plenty of people out there in the work place who don't have a history in the industry they're working in. They're there because of their particular skill set.

I accept there are roles for people with a different "skill set". Psychologists to work with the players, even mathematics and IT experts to support the use of statistics in player recruitment, etc.

The problem with TK is not only does he have no background in football, but he doesn't appear to have any relevant qualifications, experience or skills at all.

When he became involved in Fulham, he was 30 years old. His friend whose name we no longer mention was a law graduate (which BTW, requires full time study to at least the age of 24 in the US) who TK had met at college. They were not, for example, a couple of maths geniuses who decided to apply their data analytical skills to football.

So he's only in the job because his dad owns the Club?

100% yes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 06:14:26 PM
Stoke in for Gayle... Geordies want £20 mill.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 06:59:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 06:14:26 PM
Stoke in for Gayle... Geordies want £20 mill.

We should get him. Mitro and Gayle is a Championship winning front line
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 20, 2019, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: Chutney on June 20, 2019, 05:54:25 PM

He is currently away with AEW, that is taking all of hsi time currently, he will then split his time upon returning between us, AEW and the Jags.

I didn't say he is doing everything as a one man band, I just said that without him here to sign off on things, they scouts etc can only go on previous instruction, and no negotiations/deals can't be completed, this is a fact, its how our recruitment system works. He must personally sign off on any deals or they don't get completed.

Ideally we'd have DOF without any other roles, as DOF of a professional football club should be a full time role. Unfortunately we don't have that option.

Its fine, speculate all you want, I'm just telling you its pointless as nothing will be happening currently regarding bringing new faces in any further than producing a list of names, things will start once Tony Khan is back from working on his other roles.

Ok, since it appears you are missing my points, I'll try another approach:

- How do you know for a fact (which means that it should be actually true) that AEW is taking all (100 %) of TK's time? To me that seem like an odd thing for TK to share with other people, and it also seem like an odd way of working when you have multiple responsibilities.

- Let's pretend that it is indeed a fact that the club basically cannot complete anything without TK personally signing off, but further pretend for just a second that TK could take a few seconds out of his AEW schedule (maybe he is just working 99,9 % for them). Why do you then believe that TK must be physically present in order to sign off on something?

- You also state that nothing will happen other than maybe that someone at the club being able to produce a list of names. What leads you to believe this? Why wouldn't people be able to do analysis, scout, negotiate etc. when TK is away? Do you not think that the work is ongoing behind the scenes all the time, but instead that work is almost not even started before TK is back? What is the rationale behind this line of thought?

Again, lastly isn't now a good time to speculate then? Since it is often better to speculate before the deals are done. After they are done, it is not much to speculate about.   
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:01:29 PM
Another week about to be gone.

Mitro, Sess, Anguissa and TC are still Whites.

I'm  :yay: :yay: :yay:

Good transfer window so far.     Transfer rumors suck anyway.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:09:46 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:01:29 PM
Another week about to be gone.

Mitro, Sess, Anguissa and TC are still Whites.

I'm  :yay: :yay: :yay:

Good transfer window so far.     Transfer rumors suck anyway.

We all know TC is staying.
But doubt the other 3 will be.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on June 20, 2019, 07:09:54 PM
😁 funny...
Moaning about no signings and waiting to moan about a signing!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:14:27 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 20, 2019, 07:09:54 PM
😁 funny...
Moaning about no signings and waiting to moan about a signing!

What the feck you on about leftie😜
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:18:07 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:09:46 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:01:29 PM
Another week about to be gone.

Mitro, Sess, Anguissa and TC are still Whites.

I'm  :yay: :yay: :yay:

Good transfer window so far.     Transfer rumors suck anyway.

We all know TC is staying.
But doubt the other 3 will be.

I said the day the season ended that I thought all 3 would be back for one reason or another (Sess wants higher wages, Mitro is under contract, Khans would be greedy sellers) and i stand by that.

I may be proven wrong...but I've read for 5 years english media making transfer PROJECTIONS and then most of them never coming true.

Sess may indeed end up with Spurs.    Mitro may indeed end up with West Ham.

Unless those other teams handle transfers just as poorly as the Khans do (apparently) then I'm thinking it looks more likely that Sess and Mitro will be here this season.

Hell, Tony Khan is doing wrestling.   When is he signing off on a Mitro or Sess transfer.     He ain't worried about it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:23:31 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?

More than Seri??  He didn't even play Seri until he needed to.

Where did you hear this?   It looked to me like he saw potential in Anguissa.   What funds?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?

Best outcome would be get rid of Seri, Christie and Fabri. That would easily cover maintaining Anguissa, Mitro and Sess's prem wages
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on June 20, 2019, 07:31:17 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:14:27 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 20, 2019, 07:09:54 PM
😁 funny...
Moaning about no signings and waiting to moan about a signing!

What the feck you on about leftie😜
Leftie?
I'm on about the kin moaning on this site about everything Fulham!
I'm not sure the name of the site is correct!
You know as well as I do that there will be moan after moan because we haven't signed anyone.
The when we do, there will be moan after moan that the player sh@te
We sell someone = wrong player and not for enough
Etc etc etc

I just don't get it really? I argue constantly with fans of other teams because I support the Whites, whether I'm right or wrong and they do too. Isn't that how we should feel or at least portray ourselves to others?


Win, lose or draw we are the Super Whites!
COYSW's
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:32:17 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:23:31 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?

More than Seri??  He didn't even play Seri until he needed to.

Where did you hear this?   It looked to me like he saw potential in Anguissa.   What funds?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:23:31 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?

More than Seri??  He didn't even play Seri until he needed to.

Where did you hear this?   It looked to me like he saw potential in Anguissa.   What funds?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:23:31 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?

More than Seri??  He didn't even play Seri until he needed to.

Where did you hear this?   It looked to me like he saw potential in Anguissa.   What funds?

I know he played Anguissa last few games and I thought he fancied him.
Chap I know where I live,his son works at the Express and told him that's what he heard.

Funds as in maybe he been told to offload,to get dosh for signings, maybe the Khans don't want to splash the cash again.
Could be waiting for the outs to get some in.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:33:50 PM
Brede....I was having a laugh,don't take everything
I say seriously.😊
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on June 20, 2019, 07:35:58 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:33:50 PM
Brede....I was having a laugh,don't take everything
I say seriously.😊
Sorry Mince think it was the "Leftie" bit!
Having a bad time recently and only Fulham and Cricket (England) keeping me going!
Apologies
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?

Best outcome would be get rid of Seri, Christie and Fabri. That would easily cover maintaining Anguissa, Mitro and Sess's prem wages

Sessegnon won't be on anything close to Prem wages considering the last contract he signed was in 2017 when he hadn't properly broken into the first team. Even with a promotion increase, he'll have been at the lower end of our earners last season. Unless you're thinking he'll sign a new deal of course, which he's made very clear he won't.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:40:58 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 20, 2019, 07:35:58 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:33:50 PM
Brede....I was having a laugh,don't take everything
I say seriously.😊
Sorry Mince think it was the "Leftie" bit!
Having a bad time recently and only Fulham and Cricket (England) keeping me going!
Apologies

Not your health I hope.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:41:39 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?

Best outcome would be get rid of Seri, Christie and Fabri. That would easily cover maintaining Anguissa, Mitro and Sess's prem wages

Sessegnon won't be on anything close to Prem wages considering the last contract he signed was in 2017 when he hadn't properly broken into the first team. Even with a promotion increase, he'll have been at the lower end of our earners last season. Unless you're thinking he'll sign a new deal of course, which he's made very clear he won't.

How much WEEKLY salary do you think Sess is going to make from a team this season compared to if he were to stay at Fulham and leave on the free the following season.

Spurs and Liverpool this year have to pay something for him to the team AND pay him a wage.   Sess only sees the wage.

He can double his wage offer from a team if he has a good year in the championship and the buying team doesn't have to pay a transfer fee.

People have got to remember the Khans are American owners who own an American football team where "transfer" fees aren't a thing.    And they aren't poor.

They aren't going to worry about the loss of 15 million pounds for Sess if they hold onto him because they are thinking he's going to be an important piece that helps them come right back up next season.   If he doesn't sign, but Fulham are once again a premier league squad they are going to look for a better winger than Sess.

Mind, I'm just thinking that's what I'd do.    I know Sess wouldn't mind going to a premier league squad, but I'd make that squad pay good money for him, and if they didn't I wouldn't sell.    And I don't see the buying squads under any pressure to pay big money for a player they can still get 1 year later for less.

If he ain't going for 30 million he ain't goin.

imo.   We'll see if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on June 20, 2019, 07:43:41 PM
I would be astounded if Sess and Seri stayed. I think Anguissa would only leave if there are suitable bids, but I don't think anyone will pay what we'd want after his last season.

Feeling quietly confident that Mitro will be here next season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:47:21 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:41:39 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?

Best outcome would be get rid of Seri, Christie and Fabri. That would easily cover maintaining Anguissa, Mitro and Sess's prem wages

Sessegnon won't be on anything close to Prem wages considering the last contract he signed was in 2017 when he hadn't properly broken into the first team. Even with a promotion increase, he'll have been at the lower end of our earners last season. Unless you're thinking he'll sign a new deal of course, which he's made very clear he won't.

How much WEEKLY salary do you think Sess is going to make from a team this season compared to if he were to stay at Fulham and leave on the free the following season.

Spurs and Liverpool this year have to pay something for him to the team AND pay him a wage.   Sess only sees the wage.

He can double his wage offer from a team if he has a good year in the championship and the buying team doesn't have to pay a transfer fee.

To counter that, why would say Spurs take a chance on trying to get Sessegnon on a tribunal when if he was on a free every club in Europe would know they can get Sessegnon for 500k in development fees (and then Sessegnon would get properly big wages)?

Plus, I'd imagine we've told Sessegnon to either sign a new contract or we'll sell him given what happened with (French) Dembele.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 20, 2019, 07:43:41 PM
I would be astounded if Sess and Seri stayed. I think Anguissa would only leave if there are suitable bids, but I don't think anyone will pay what we'd want after his last season.

Feeling quietly confident that Mitro will be here next season.

I've always thought Sessegnon and Seri are gone and Mitrovic and Zambo could stay depending on what offers came in for them. Selling Sessegnon and Seri should bring in 45-50m, add on the little fees we'll get for Fabri, Cisse etc. it should give us some spending power this summer.

But until we get some movement out the door I'm not expecting someone like a Cavaleiro to be signed for 12m, we'll probably be stuck with loans and frees. We might be able to get someone like Forshaw for 3-4m, but I can't see us properly splashing out. Not much wrong with that though, there's some good options out there like a Tomori on loan for example (although Lampard might want to keep him given they have the embargo). 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 08:00:58 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 20, 2019, 07:43:41 PM
I would be astounded if Sess and Seri stayed. I think Anguissa would only leave if there are suitable bids, but I don't think anyone will pay what we'd want after his last season.

Feeling quietly confident that Mitro will be here next season.

I've always thought Sessegnon and Seri are gone and Mitrovic and Zambo could stay depending on what offers came in for them. Selling Sessegnon and Seri should bring in 45-50m, add on the little fees we'll get for Fabri, Cisse etc. it should give us some spending power this summer.

But until we get some movement out the door I'm not expecting someone like a Cavaleiro to be signed for 12m, we'll probably be stuck with loans and frees. We might be able to get someone like Forshaw for 3-4m, but I can't see us properly splashing out. Not much wrong with that though, there's some good options out there like a Tomori on loan for example (although Lampard might want to keep him given they have the embargo). 

Lampard will be at Chelsea so who knows
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:05:53 PM
Why is Sess worth 30 million?

Seriously...I know it was thought he was definitely starter premier league quality...but he's not.   He won't start on the Spurs A team...well, unless he get's minutes as a left back.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 08:11:53 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 08:00:58 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 20, 2019, 07:43:41 PM
I would be astounded if Sess and Seri stayed. I think Anguissa would only leave if there are suitable bids, but I don't think anyone will pay what we'd want after his last season.

Feeling quietly confident that Mitro will be here next season.

I've always thought Sessegnon and Seri are gone and Mitrovic and Zambo could stay depending on what offers came in for them. Selling Sessegnon and Seri should bring in 45-50m, add on the little fees we'll get for Fabri, Cisse etc. it should give us some spending power this summer.

But until we get some movement out the door I'm not expecting someone like a Cavaleiro to be signed for 12m, we'll probably be stuck with loans and frees. We might be able to get someone like Forshaw for 3-4m, but I can't see us properly splashing out. Not much wrong with that though, there's some good options out there like a Tomori on loan for example (although Lampard might want to keep him given they have the embargo). 

Lampard will be at Chelsea so who knows

That was the point I was making, should've been clearer. General point being, being (most likely) restricted to loans, frees and maybe one 3-4m signing at the moment isn't necessarily a bad thing. Especially with the core of the team we already have. If we ended up signing say;
Forshaw for 3-4m, signed a Tomori/Michael Hector type CB and a Winger (someone like Ken Sema or Nkoudou) on loan in the next two-three weeks and then when we've got the money in for Seri, Sessegnon etc. we look at upgrading at Right-Back and potentially signing a Cavaleiro for big money I'd call that a good window.

Especially if we keep Mitrovic we don't really need much, we'd probably be looking at needing maybe 5 signings if Mitrovic stayed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 08:14:09 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:05:53 PM
Why is Sess worth 30 million?

Seriously...I know it was thought he was definitely starter premier league quality...but he's not.   He won't start on the Spurs A team...well, unless he get's minutes as a left back.



He's 19 with over 100 senior games and 30 odd games in the Prem when most players his age are lucky to get 10 minutes in the Prem when their team is 5-0 up (Foden).

Plus, he could find a home as a LWB given Pochettino rotates between a 3 and 4 at the back. Same reason I think Inter are in for him as per reports today given Conte's come in there and we all know the system he favours.

And, how much is anyone worth? What the club they're at values him at. Same reason Wan-Bissaka's worth 55m, Harry Maguire's supposedly worth 80m and Real Madrid are practically trying to give James Rodriguez away to Napoli and a world class Centre-Back like Mats Hummels has just been sold for 34m.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 08:14:09 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:05:53 PM
Why is Sess worth 30 million?

Seriously...I know it was thought he was definitely starter premier league quality...but he's not.   He won't start on the Spurs A team...well, unless he get's minutes as a left back.



He's 19 with over 100 senior games and 30 odd games in the Prem when most players his age are lucky to get 10 minutes in the Prem when their team is 5-0 up (Foden).

Plus, he could find a home as a LWB given Pochettino rotates between a 3 and 4 at the back. Same reason I think Inter are in for him as per reports today given Conte's come in there and we all know the system he favours.

And, how much is anyone worth? What the club they're at values him at. Same reason Wan-Bissaka's worth 55m, Harry Maguire's supposedly worth 80m and Real Madrid are practically trying to give James Rodriguez away to Napoli.

Wan-Bissaka and Harry Maguire just had good seasons in the premier league.

I wouldn't even say Sess had a good season.   I'd say his season was below average with limited minutes on a squad that started Vietto and Schurrle over him.    And Joe Bryan or MLM over him at LB.

Again, why is he worth $30 million right now?    You stated why he's of value.   
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 08:24:17 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 08:14:09 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:05:53 PM
Why is Sess worth 30 million?

Seriously...I know it was thought he was definitely starter premier league quality...but he's not.   He won't start on the Spurs A team...well, unless he get's minutes as a left back.



He's 19 with over 100 senior games and 30 odd games in the Prem when most players his age are lucky to get 10 minutes in the Prem when their team is 5-0 up (Foden).

Plus, he could find a home as a LWB given Pochettino rotates between a 3 and 4 at the back. Same reason I think Inter are in for him as per reports today given Conte's come in there and we all know the system he favours.

And, how much is anyone worth? What the club they're at values him at. Same reason Wan-Bissaka's worth 55m, Harry Maguire's supposedly worth 80m and Real Madrid are practically trying to give James Rodriguez away to Napoli.

Wan-Bissaka and Harry Maguire just had good seasons in the premier league.

I wouldn't even say Sess had a good season.   I'd say his season was below average with limited minutes on a squad that started Vietto and Schurrle over him.    And Joe Bryan or MLM over him at LB.

Again, why is he worth $30 million right now?    You stated why he's of value.   

Again, he's worth that much because that's the value we've attached to him. Spurs are supposedly "only" willing to pay 25m, so he's at least worth that. Whether or not he lives up the price tag is another thing entirely, but from a Fulham perspective as long as the money isn't counterfeit then it's happy days.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:48:01 PM
According to this  (https://www.lovesportradio.com/news/love-sport-exclusives/exclusive-crystal-palace-contact-fulham-over-ryan-sessegnon-but-tottenham-silent/)it's 45 million...

But...of course...in the same article they say...

QuoteInter Milan and Liverpool have also been named as potential suitors for Sessegnon, but Palace are understood to have been the only ones to contact Fulham.

Yet....

QuoteSpurs, notoriously rigid negotiators, value him at closer to £25m given the contract situation.

They value him at 25 million but haven't actually contacted Fulham...   this late in the transfer window?



Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 08:56:09 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:48:01 PM
According to this  (https://www.lovesportradio.com/news/love-sport-exclusives/exclusive-crystal-palace-contact-fulham-over-ryan-sessegnon-but-tottenham-silent/)it's 45 million...

But...of course...in the same article they say...

QuoteInter Milan and Liverpool have also been named as potential suitors for Sessegnon, but Palace are understood to have been the only ones to contact Fulham.

Yet....

QuoteSpurs, notoriously rigid negotiators, value him at closer to £25m given the contract situation.

They value him at 25 million but haven't actually contacted Fulham...   this late in the transfer window?





Firstly, you're assuming that the no Spurs contact thing is true. And even if it is true, despite what some on here would have you believe- we're still in the very early stages of the transfer window. Prem teams aren't back for Pre-Season for another 10 days or so (and Sessegnon's at the U21 Euros).

Secondly, we value someone at 45m knowing nobody will pay it- Spurs value him at 25m, some negotiation later it'll probably work out as about 30m (or maybe less with someone like a Foyth or Nkoudou on loan). We aren't going to go straight in at 30m, because it'll be negotiated down.

Thirdly, imagine believing LoveSportRadio.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 09:16:52 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 08:56:09 PM


Thirdly, imagine believing LoveSportRadio.

No...I don't believe the article at all...that's why I referenced what I did.


I'm saying I don't believe most English media during transfer seasons.    Cahill and Drinkwater to Fulham the most recent wind up my ars from english media.

Someone may very well feel Sess is worth 30 million.    That Mitro is definitely leaving because "he's too good for the championship".


What we ABSOLUTELY know...without any assumption...is that if Tony Khan doesn't give the ok then Fulham Football Club is under no obligation to let either play for any team not named Fulham Football Club next season.

Regardless of all the speculation and he said she said printed by the English press.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
Anyone having a medical? Anyone signing? Come on Fulham, let's get us a little excited by something.😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Babel on Twitter:

'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'

Fulham? 😍
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 09:59:31 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Babel on Twitter:

'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'

Fulham? 😍

That would be a nice surprise.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 21, 2019, 10:12:09 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Babel on Twitter:

'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'

Fulham? 😍

I can see him going to Liverpool or someone has a squad player rather than us but I'd be over the moon if he did!!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tonywa on June 21, 2019, 10:14:24 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 09:59:31 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Babel on Twitter:

'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'

Fulham? 😍

That would be a nice surprise.

The thought of the havoc Babel and Mitro would cause in the Championship would be a great prospect. Highly unlikely though I imagine.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: N_O_W_S on June 21, 2019, 10:19:30 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Babel on Twitter:

'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'

Fulham? 😍
Bayern now that Ribery and Robben have gone?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on June 21, 2019, 11:01:20 AM
Quote from: Ols_S on June 21, 2019, 10:19:30 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Babel on Twitter:

'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'

Fulham? 😍
Bayern now that Ribery and Robben have gone?

Probably just changing his Hair colour, or maybe going back to Ajax now they selling half their squad
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on June 21, 2019, 11:04:24 AM
Players report back for training tomorrow, although there'll be a few missing as 5 are at the ANC and the ones on international duty will report back late.

8th July for me is the key date, when FFC fly out for the training camp. In previous years Jokanovic has had to take predominately kids as the senior quad was so thin.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 02:37:12 PM
Since there is no news of us,looks like one of our ex's
is on the move,Smudger Smith to Millwall.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 21, 2019, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
Anyone having a medical ?

Yes I am having a medical shortly to renew my Heavy Goods Licence.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 05:31:30 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 21, 2019, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
Anyone having a medical ?

Yes I am having a medical shortly to renew my Heavy Goods Licence.

Did you pass?
The reason I ask is because that's another week gone and not even a decent rumour.😡
I'm off on the gin now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MrFFC on June 21, 2019, 05:33:57 PM
Adomah available on a free transfer surely he would be a good signing at this level?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on June 21, 2019, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on June 21, 2019, 11:04:24 AM
Players report back for training tomorrow, although there'll be a few missing as 5 are at the ANC and the ones on international duty will report back late.

8th July for me is the key date, when FFC fly out for the training camp. In previous years Jokanovic has had to take predominately kids as the senior quad was so thin.


I agree, but somehow can't see it happening!   
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on June 21, 2019, 06:13:05 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on June 21, 2019, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on June 21, 2019, 11:04:24 AM
Players report back for training tomorrow, although there'll be a few missing as 5 are at the ANC and the ones on international duty will report back late.

8th July for me is the key date, when FFC fly out for the training camp. In previous years Jokanovic has had to take predominately kids as the senior quad was so thin.


I agree, but somehow can't see it happening!   

im sure we'll have 4 midfielders in by then
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on June 21, 2019, 06:16:47 PM
If we fly out for our pre season with a fringe squad ... AGAIN... ugh! It's just never ending mistakes..
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 21, 2019, 07:33:39 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 05:31:30 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 21, 2019, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
Anyone having a medical ?

Yes I am having a medical shortly to renew my Heavy Goods Licence.

Did you pass?
The reason I ask is because that's another week gone and not even a decent rumour.😡
I'm off on the gin now.

Yes fortunately I passed, cost me £120, which is £20 more than I payed last year, as at my age I have to have one every year.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 07:39:53 PM
So only a few Championship sides have made moves so far (https://www.football.london/championship/gardner-jota-every-championship-transfer-16302498).

Guess we should cut TK some slack and applaud him that we still have Ryan and Alex.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
France has two 19 year old CBs that could start for Fulham right now.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 21, 2019, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
France has two 19 year old CBs that could start for Fulham right now.

Just saying.

We sacking off FFP then?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 10:44:24 PM
I don't think either makes over 75k a week. Doesn't Anguissa and Mawson make more than that?

Sent from my BND-L34 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on June 21, 2019, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 10:44:24 PM
I don't think either makes over 75k a week. Doesn't Anguissa and Mawson make more than that?

Sent from my BND-L34 using Tapatalk



Anguissa was widely reported to be in the 60's but is undoubtedly one of the relegation clause brigade meaning he'll be on less now, Mawson was in the 50's I think, probably has a relegation wage reduction clause too because I think we did it with almost everyone that we signed in the summer according to reports
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 21, 2019, 11:26:16 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 10:44:24 PM
I don't think either makes over 75k a week. Doesn't Anguissa and Mawson make more than that?

Sent from my BND-L34 using Tapatalk



You do realise Konate and Upamecano would probably cost 30m+ each, right? (Assuming you were talking about the France U21s game. And there's no chance they'd come to Fulham over playing for RB Leipzig in the Champions League.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on June 22, 2019, 12:21:03 AM
So... is Gayle worth £20 million, or £10 million?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7168913/Fulham-eyeing-10m-rated-Newcastle-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html
Fulham eyeing £10m-rated striker Dwight Gayle with Newcastle keen to offload him this summer


https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1143756/Fulham-transfer-news-Dwight-Gayle-Newcastle-United-raid-Scott-Parker-bid
Fulham plot £20m Newcastle raid as Scott Parker eyes Dwight Gayle to lead promotion charge
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on June 22, 2019, 12:30:54 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
France has two 19 year old CBs that could start for Fulham right now.

Just saying.

Both of them play in the Bundesliga for a team (RB Leipzig) that will compete for the Bundesliga title next year and also compete for a Champions League title. Moving to Fulham would be laughable for them. Arsenal is also supposedly in on Upamecano. Even if Fulham was in the Premier League they would probably never think of moving to Fulham. Fulham probably needed to discover them when Leipzig discovered them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 22, 2019, 06:20:27 AM
Radio GaGa...Fulham could rival Arsenal's bid for Celtic fullback Kieran Tierney.
Gunners bid of 15 mill turned down.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 22, 2019, 08:52:58 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 22, 2019, 06:20:27 AM
Radio GaGa...Fulham could rival Arsenal's bid for Celtic fullback Kieran Tierney.
Gunners bid of 15 mill turned down.

According to Celtic fans, he was too big for us when we were in Prem let alone now in championship!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 23, 2019, 07:46:55 AM
Little Dembele turns down Manure to stay at Lyon.😵
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 23, 2019, 12:56:56 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 22, 2019, 12:21:03 AM
So... is Gayle worth £20 million, or £10 million?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7168913/Fulham-eyeing-10m-rated-Newcastle-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html
Fulham eyeing £10m-rated striker Dwight Gayle with Newcastle keen to offload him this summer


https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1143756/Fulham-transfer-news-Dwight-Gayle-Newcastle-United-raid-Scott-Parker-bid
Fulham plot £20m Newcastle raid as Scott Parker eyes Dwight Gayle to lead promotion charge


If he can get 24 goals, 20mill
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 23, 2019, 01:08:01 PM
Mitro and Gayle is a championship winning team. I think we should do all we can to get him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 23, 2019, 02:47:42 PM
Might be a controversial opinion, if we keep Mitrovic I wouldn't want to sign Gayle. Especially for 20m. That 20m could genuinely fund every transfer we could make this summer and we'd be in good shape. Cavaleiro 12m, a Right-Back for 3-4m, a Forshaw/Ryan Woods type midfielder for 3-4m. Loan in a Centre-Back and another Winger and we're sorted.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham76 on June 23, 2019, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 23, 2019, 02:47:42 PM
Might be a controversial opinion, if we keep Mitrovic I wouldn't want to sign Gayle. Especially for 20m. That 20m could genuinely fund every transfer we could make this summer and we'd be in good shape. Cavaleiro 12m, a Right-Back for 3-4m, a Forshaw/Ryan Woods type midfielder for 3-4m. Loan in a Centre-Back and another Winger and we're sorted.

Both options i.e. yours or buying Gayle are good but if you can score goals, and Mitrovic/Gayle would get plenty, you're always going to win more games than you lose.

Personally, I would try & get Gayle. Potentially a lethal partnership.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on June 23, 2019, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 23, 2019, 02:47:42 PM
Might be a controversial opinion, if we keep Mitrovic I wouldn't want to sign Gayle. Especially for 20m. That 20m could genuinely fund every transfer we could make this summer and we'd be in good shape. Cavaleiro 12m, a Right-Back for 3-4m, a Forshaw/Ryan Woods type midfielder for 3-4m. Loan in a Centre-Back and another Winger and we're sorted.

Agree
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 23, 2019, 03:55:02 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on June 23, 2019, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 23, 2019, 02:47:42 PM
Might be a controversial opinion, if we keep Mitrovic I wouldn't want to sign Gayle. Especially for 20m. That 20m could genuinely fund every transfer we could make this summer and we'd be in good shape. Cavaleiro 12m, a Right-Back for 3-4m, a Forshaw/Ryan Woods type midfielder for 3-4m. Loan in a Centre-Back and another Winger and we're sorted.

Agree

If we sell Ryan and Seri we'd hopefully have 20/25 mill so could do both.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on June 23, 2019, 04:23:23 PM
According to the Rumour  Gossips Gayle didn't want to leave Newcastle.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 23, 2019, 04:27:19 PM
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on June 23, 2019, 04:23:23 PM
According to the Rumour  Gossips Gayle didn't want to leave Newcastle.

That was said last time. He was on loan last season though.  Im sure he knows by now he isnt playing in the PL
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on June 23, 2019, 04:35:02 PM
Betis seem to have moved on from Mitrovic and are now targeting Divock Origi.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 23, 2019, 05:19:57 PM
Regarding Gayle, I'm not sure Gayle + Mitrovic means we'll go back up. I though the same when WestBrom has Rodriguez and Gayle but ultimately that failed. Maybe spreading funds in more urgent positions would be more prudent.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on June 23, 2019, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 23, 2019, 05:19:57 PM
Regarding Gayle, I'm not sure Gayle + Mitrovic means we'll go back up. I though the same when WestBrom has Rodriguez and Gayle but ultimately that failed. Maybe spreading funds in more urgent positions would be more prudent.
Well I think we have lost Schurrle, Babel, Vietto, Markovic and Kamara, we need a player for the wide right/striker position and Gayle sounds like a pretty good choice.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 23, 2019, 06:17:18 PM
Quote from: filham on June 23, 2019, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 23, 2019, 05:19:57 PM
Regarding Gayle, I'm not sure Gayle + Mitrovic means we'll go back up. I though the same when WestBrom has Rodriguez and Gayle but ultimately that failed. Maybe spreading funds in more urgent positions would be more prudent.
Well I think we have lost Schurrle, Babel, Vietto, Markovic and Kamara, we need a player for the wide right/striker position and Gayle sounds like a pretty good choice.

Gayle's really not a wide man though. He's n out and out striker. Ivan Can from Wolves would be better suited for that and less on price/wages I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 24, 2019, 06:25:58 AM
A new week begins,last week of June.
Will there be anyone in the door...Hopefully a nice surprise. 049:gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on June 24, 2019, 11:27:17 PM
TOSSARD AGREES BRIGHTON TERMS

Genk winger Leandro Trossard has agreed terms with Brighton on a five-year deal, Sky Sports News understands.

The 24-year-old is travelling to England and will undergo a medical on Tuesday ahead of completing his £18m switch to the Amex Stadium.

Trossard will become Graham Potter's second signing as Brighton manager after they finalised the transfer of centre-back Matt Clarke from League One side Portsmouth on Saturday.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 01:27:57 PM
Anybody?😒
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 25, 2019, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 01:27:57 PM
Anybody?😒

I've heard from a dependable source that absolutely nothing can or will happen until TK is back from his wrestling adventures (whenever that is). That's why we haven't signed anyone. Not even a 16 year old left back. Or a goal keeping coach.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 04:53:32 PM
Elijah Adebayo gone to Walsall... Permanent deal.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on June 25, 2019, 05:47:09 PM

Thorsteinsson Bids Farewell

Tuesday 25 June 2019 16:01


The Club can confirm that an agreement has been reached allowing Jon Dagur Thorsteinsson to join Danish side, Aarhus Gymnastikforening (AGF), on a permanent transfer from July 1st.

The Icelandic Under-21 international spent the most part of last season on loan at Vendsyssel who were unable to avoid relegation from the Danish Superliga.

We'd like to wish Jon all the best in the future and thank him for his services at Fulham.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on June 25, 2019, 08:02:52 PM
Anguissa named MOTM in Cameroon game today.. Not sure where to put this or if it means anything.. Just reporting.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on June 25, 2019, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on June 25, 2019, 05:47:09 PM

Thorsteinsson Bids Farewell

Tuesday 25 June 2019 16:01


The Club can confirm that an agreement has been reached allowing Jon Dagur Thorsteinsson to join Danish side, Aarhus Gymnastikforening (AGF), on a permanent transfer from July 1st.

The Icelandic Under-21 international spent the most part of last season on loan at Vendsyssel who were unable to avoid relegation from the Danish Superliga.

We'd like to wish Jon all the best in the future and thank him for his services at Fulham.


What are we going to do for Goal of the Season next year!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mrmicawbers on June 25, 2019, 08:52:24 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 25, 2019, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on June 25, 2019, 05:47:09 PM

Thorsteinsson Bids Farewell

Tuesday 25 June 2019 16:01


The Club can confirm that an agreement has been reached allowing Jon Dagur Thorsteinsson to join Danish side, Aarhus Gymnastikforening (AGF), on a permanent transfer from July 1st.

The Icelandic Under-21 international spent the most part of last season on loan at Vendsyssel who were unable to avoid relegation from the Danish Superliga.

We'd like to wish Jon all the best in the future and thank him for his services at Fulham.


What are we going to do for Goal of the Season next year!!!
Was he the one that used to cut in and curl them in from outside the box.íf so I thought he would go on and do well for us?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on June 25, 2019, 10:11:00 PM
But he hasn't so good luck to him at his new club
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SP on June 25, 2019, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on June 25, 2019, 08:02:52 PM
Anguissa named MOTM in Cameroon game today.. Not sure where to put this or if it means anything.. Just reporting.


Someone on Fulham Web claims Djalo was warming the bench somewhere for GB?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 10:23:48 PM
Stoke have just completed five signings today,one is Nick Powell from Wigan,bit injury prone,but good player imo.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: RP24 on June 25, 2019, 10:52:01 PM
I always find it funny that the club pits departing player news down the news story section. It's never the top one and older news often goes above it! Look at thorenston his story is third and the other items are from the day before.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 25, 2019, 11:14:36 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 25, 2019, 10:52:01 PM
I always find it funny that the club pits departing player news down the news story section. It's never the top one and older news often goes above it! Look at thorenston his story is third and the other items are from the day before.

Because he's not that important to be honest.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on June 26, 2019, 01:24:43 AM
Quote from: filham on June 23, 2019, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 23, 2019, 05:19:57 PM
Regarding Gayle, I'm not sure Gayle + Mitrovic means we'll go back up. I though the same when WestBrom has Rodriguez and Gayle but ultimately that failed. Maybe spreading funds in more urgent positions would be more prudent.
Well I think we have lost Schurrle, Babel, Vietto, Markovic and Kamara, we need a player for the wide right/striker position and Gayle sounds like a pretty good choice.

Did we ever have Markovic, he really doesn't count
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on June 26, 2019, 01:30:35 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 25, 2019, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 01:27:57 PM
Anybody?😒

I've heard from a dependable source that absolutely nothing can or will happen until TK is back from his wrestling adventures (whenever that is). That's why we haven't signed anyone. Not even a 16 year old left back. Or a goal keeping coach.
Telephone, text, email, tweets, Messenger, Skype, homing pigeon....etc
I can't believe that
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on June 26, 2019, 07:55:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 10:23:48 PM
Stoke have just completed five signings today,one is Nick Powell from Wigan,bit injury prone,but good player imo.

I wouldn't have any of them at Fulham .. Maybe Powell at a push but even he would only be a squad player for us with Cairney here.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 26, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
Quote from: rogerpnowinFlorida on June 26, 2019, 01:30:35 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 25, 2019, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 01:27:57 PM
Anybody?😒

I've heard from a dependable source that absolutely nothing can or will happen until TK is back from his wrestling adventures (whenever that is). That's why we haven't signed anyone. Not even a 16 year old left back. Or a goal keeping coach.
Telephone, text, email, tweets, Messenger, Skype, homing pigeon....etc
I can't believe that

I was not being serious, although I realize that is sometimes hard to tell from a written message. Of course things can happen even if TK is away (as evidenced by the things that did happen, if not already clear from common sense), because they do have pigeons in the states as well I'm sure.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on June 26, 2019, 09:24:39 AM
Reading the various news feeds as usual in the faint hope we may get someone as we have lots going out. Spuds have offers in or contemplating a lot of young players. Maybe they have decided sess is not worth the money this year and that is why rumours of him running down his contract are appearing.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on June 26, 2019, 10:31:18 AM
So, no news or even idle gossip?
I reckon it will be at least another 2 weeks before we get wind of anything positive but that's just a rumour!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2019, 07:55:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 10:23:48 PM
Stoke have just completed five signings today,one is Nick Powell from Wigan,bit injury prone,but good player imo.

I wouldn't have any of them at Fulham .. Maybe Powell at a push but even he would only be a squad player for us with Cairney here.

I'd take Liam Lindsay over any of our centre halves at the moment.

Nick Powell and Adam Davies are great squad players considering there is no transfer fee involved. They are also on the verge of signing Stephan Ward on a free. Great experienced full back or would be more then adequate competition for what we have. They're not making stellar signings but it's all tidy business, they sort I would have hoped we'd be looking at.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on June 26, 2019, 11:54:35 AM
Wan Bissaka 50 mill to manure, wonder how much of that Roy will see
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on June 26, 2019, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Liam LindsayI'd take Liam Lindsay

Who?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 26, 2019, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 26, 2019, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Liam LindsayI'd take Liam Lindsay

Who?

Barnsley centre back who has just joined Stoke.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 26, 2019, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 26, 2019, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Liam LindsayI'd take Liam Lindsay

Who?

Barnsley centre back who has just joined Stoke.

The one who got relegated to League one the year before last? Why is good enough for a promotion chasing team exactly?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2019, 07:55:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 10:23:48 PM
Stoke have just completed five signings today,one is Nick Powell from Wigan,bit injury prone,but good player imo.

I wouldn't have any of them at Fulham .. Maybe Powell at a push but even he would only be a squad player for us with Cairney here.

I'd take Liam Lindsay over any of our centre halves at the moment.

Nick Powell and Adam Davies are great squad players considering there is no transfer fee involved. They are also on the verge of signing Stephan Ward on a free. Great experienced full back or would be more then adequate competition for what we have. They're not making stellar signings but it's all tidy business, they sort I would have hoped we'd be looking at.

You would want "3 games last season and 33 years old" Stephan Ward? Good lord, if TK bought him this forum would have his guts for garters.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 26, 2019, 03:22:08 PM
Mitro and Anguissa in the new kits.     They may be on their way out, but it would be odd to see them brandishing the new kits, then show up on another team in a month.


Mitro and Andre will probably NOT be transfer moves this window.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on June 26, 2019, 03:24:20 PM
Leeds United winger Jack Clarke is close to completing a move to Premier League side Tottenham.

Negotiations have advanced far enough for the Championship club to let the 18-year-old travel south for a medical.

It is understood a fee in the region of £10m has been agreed, with further payments scheduled if certain clauses are met.

He would be Tottenham's first signing since Brazil forward Lucas Moura joined from Paris St-Germain in January 2018.

Clarke came through the youth system at the West Yorkshire club and made his first-team debut on 6 October last year against Brentford.

He made 25 appearances for the club last season and helped them to the Championship play-off semi-finals, where they lost to Derby County.



Sure he a left winger/ forward could be theyve gone for him due to Sess price/injuey
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 26, 2019, 03:29:56 PM
Thank you Jack Clarke. (young, English, winger)


And thank you mild hammy injury on Ryan.

And thank you Spurs for 2+ years of rumors and never pulling the strings.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 03:35:44 PM
The Sessegnon and Clarke transfers aren't an either/or. Pochettino most likely sees Sessegnon more as a LWB than an out-and-out winger and even if he was seen as "just" a winger Clarke coming in would mean Spurs' wingers are Son, Lucas Moura, Lamela, Nkoudou and Clarke. With Nkoudou likely to be gone. In other words, there'd still be space for Sessegnon.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 03:35:44 PM
The Sessegnon and Clarke transfers aren't an either/or. Pochettino most likely sees Sessegnon more as a LWB than an out-and-out winger and even if he was seen as "just" a winger Clarke coming in would mean Spurs' wingers are Son, Lucas Moura, Nkoudou and Clarke. With Nkoudou likely to be gone. In other words, there'd still be space for Sessegnon.

But as seen from the final vs Liverpool, they don't always play with two wingers. Vs Liverpool in the champions league final, they had Son and Eriksson with Winks and Sissoko in the centre - Moura was on the bench. We are also forgetting Lamela exists and Alli can also play there. So Sessegnon would ever be down the pecking order as a LW and Spurs dont play a LWB but Spurs traditionally play 4 at the back with an attacking midfielder... so again unless they change their formation to incorporate a 19 year old I again dont see it. Sess wont get in ahead of Rose or Davies in the LB spot.

I think it's clear to me that unless theres a couple more exits than just Nkoudou that Sess wont be going, and if he is he's straight out on loan...

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 03:35:44 PM
The Sessegnon and Clarke transfers aren't an either/or. Pochettino most likely sees Sessegnon more as a LWB than an out-and-out winger and even if he was seen as "just" a winger Clarke coming in would mean Spurs' wingers are Son, Lucas Moura, Nkoudou and Clarke. With Nkoudou likely to be gone. In other words, there'd still be space for Sessegnon.

But as seen from the final vs Liverpool, they don't always play with two wingers. Vs Liverpool in the champions league final, they had Son and Eriksson with Winks and Sissoko in the centre - Moura was on the bench. We are also forgetting Lamela exists and Alli can also play there. So Sessegnon would ever be down the pecking order as a LW and Spurs dont play a LWB but Spurs traditionally play 4 at the back with an attacking midfielder... so again unless they change their formation to incorporate a 19 year old I again dont see it. Sess wont get in ahead of Rose or Davies in the LB spot.

I think it's clear to me that unless theres a couple more exits than just Nkoudou that Sess wont be going, and if he is he's straight out on loan...



Pochettino rotates between a 3 and 4 at the back constantly. I'd be 99% certain Nkoudou is leaving (I'd try for him on loan as part of the Sessegnon deal personally), Lamela's injury prone, Son and Lucas can both play up-front as well which would leave a space open on the wing.

I'd also be surprised if Sessegnon wasn't ahead of Clarke in the pecking order given their relative experience levels (and how much money they'd be putting into the deals). If anyone was likely to go out on loan this season I'd expect it to be him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 03:54:52 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/26/tottenham-sign-jack-clarke-leeds-spurs-medical-ryan-sessegnon

"Pochettino is looking to reinvigorate his squad by signing hungry, young players with the potential to improve and the move for Clarke is independent of the push for another teenage winger – Ryan Sessegnon of Fulham, who is rated in the £25m bracket."
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Instagram of someone wearing a Fulham shirt and Babel is tagged...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 26, 2019, 04:22:11 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Instagram of someone wearing a Fulham shirt and Babel is tagged...

huh?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on June 26, 2019, 04:24:34 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Instagram of someone wearing a Fulham shirt and Babel is tagged...

Where?

Also, Mitrovic has posted a picture of him in new shirt on his Insta. Surely staying!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on June 26, 2019, 04:30:15 PM
Quote from: Milo on June 26, 2019, 04:24:34 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Instagram of someone wearing a Fulham shirt and Babel is tagged...

Where?

Also, Mitrovic has posted a picture of him in new shirt on his Insta. Surely staying!

Cursory google yields this as the likely source https://www.instagram.com/p/BzLAyUWgde_/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzLAyUWgde_/).

It also tagged Sergio Rico for reference.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on June 26, 2019, 05:47:22 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 26, 2019, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 26, 2019, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Liam LindsayI'd take Liam Lindsay

Who?

Barnsley centre back who has just joined Stoke.

The one who got relegated to League one the year before last? Why is good enough for a promotion chasing team exactly?

Yeah not ever so unhappy we missed out on that one
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on June 26, 2019, 07:03:31 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/player-concrete-offer-fulham-cottagers-see-ideal-profile-pl-return/

Player has 'concrete' offer from Fulham – Cottagers see him has 'ideal profile' for PL return

Needing to make some changes to their squad following their relegation from the Premier League, Fulham are looking to bolster their defence to try and make a swift return to England's top-tier.

One of the recurring names so far has been that of Chema, currently contracted to Levante in La Liga until June 2020.

Having just one year left on his deal makes this summer a good opportunity for a move, and El Desmarque reveal the defender has already received a 'concrete' offer from the Cottagers for his services.

The Spanish outlet explain Fulham see in Chema the 'ideal profile' of a centre-back capable of helping them return to the Premier League.

In fact, with his contractual situation as it is now, El Desmarque state 'everything points' towards the 27-year-old leaving Levante in the summer.

Whether that is for Fulham, however, remains to be seen.

Chema bounced in an out of Levante's first-team last year, making 19 appearances in La Liga, during which he scored two goals.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
I really don't understand the link with him/why we'd want him. We already have Le Marchand and Ream for Left-Footed Centre-Backs and Mawson is arguably more comfortable as the LCB as well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 26, 2019, 07:16:56 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
I really don't understand the link with him/why we'd want him. We already have Le Marchand and Ream for Left-Footed Centre-Backs and Mawson is arguably more comfortable as the LCB as well.
well maybe Scott is looking at Odoi as the RCB next season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on June 26, 2019, 07:20:35 PM
Sky and others highlighted Odoi and Ream's weaknesses the season before last. Why do you therefore think they will suffice this season when they have not improved.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:31:10 PM
If anything we have too many left-sided Centre-Backs at the moment, so I wouldn't want to sign another one.

At the moment the pairing for Barnsley is (probably) Mawson RCB and Le Marchand LCB with Ream as cover (based on the Newcastle game). And as I said all three of them are more comfortable as the LCB, so I'd be surprised if we wanted another one. Would hope we were in for a proper right-sided Centre-Back to get a good balance going and a proper partner for Mawson. My hope all along has been Tomori on loan if he was available.

Unless we're switching to 3 at the back, but after Tony Khan's interview today I don't see that happening.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rock on June 26, 2019, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
I really don't understand the link with him/why we'd want him. We already have Le Marchand and Ream for Left-Footed Centre-Backs and Mawson is arguably more comfortable as the LCB as well.

Maybe it is because we let in 81 goals last season. Just a guess.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:35:30 PM
Quote from: The Rock on June 26, 2019, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
I really don't understand the link with him/why we'd want him. We already have Le Marchand and Ream for Left-Footed Centre-Backs and Mawson is arguably more comfortable as the LCB as well.

Maybe it is because we let in 81 goals last season. Just a guess.

See post just above yours (and Mawson was only on the pitch for probably about 20 of them).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 26, 2019, 07:46:35 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:35:30 PM
Quote from: The Rock on June 26, 2019, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
I really don't understand the link with him/why we'd want him. We already have Le Marchand and Ream for Left-Footed Centre-Backs and Mawson is arguably more comfortable as the LCB as well.

Maybe it is because we let in 81 goals last season. Just a guess.

See post just above yours (and Mawson was only on the pitch for probably about 20 of them).

I'm holding out hope that Mawson was still carrying a knock at the end of the season, because even though he had (allegedly) a good December, I thought he was shockingly average at best...and SLOW.

If he doesn't improve leaps and bounds from his final two appearances we need to bring in another CB.

His pace was talked about before his injuries.  (http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/07/11/scout-report-alfie-mawson-swanseas-bright-future/)   Now, I'm thinking it might be an even bigger concern if he doesn't get the time on the pitch to raise his other attributes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on June 26, 2019, 07:48:53 PM
I honestly think (mayb in the minority with this) Le March and Mawson is a good enough CB pairing for promotion - add to that Ream and Odoi as back up and this is fine. These two are especially suited to a return to a possession style aswell as both are more than comfortable on the ball
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on June 26, 2019, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 26, 2019, 07:20:35 PM
Sky and others highlighted Odoi and Ream's weaknesses the season before last. Why do you therefore think they will suffice this season when they have not improved.

Because they're not marking the likes of Sergio Aguero and Harry Kane, and instead are going to have to deal with Chris Martin and Matt Smith type players, who are neither quick or prolific with world class movement like PL strikers. The margin for error is much, much higher and we've currently got at least one CB who's PL class in Mawson, so it means we only need one of Ream or Odoi to play alongside him should we not sign another centre half
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on June 26, 2019, 08:03:50 PM
Easy to sort out a new centre half and only £5 million, step forward Scott McKenna of Aberdeen , only 22 years old, over 6ft 2 , already played over 60 games for Aberdeen and 12 times for Scotland,
Very comfortable on the ball and far more mobile than Mawson,
If we signed McKenna and James Tavernier of Glasgow Rangers I would suddenly become very confident of finishing in the Top 6
Back 4 of Bryan, McKenna, Mawson, Tavernier would be the best defence in The Championship by some distance.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on June 26, 2019, 08:11:31 PM
Sky

18:26
KHAN: I WANT TO KEEP MITROVIC

Fulham vice-chairman Tony Khan says he wants Aleksander Mitrovic to stay at the club and he is doing everything he can to keep the striker at Craven Cottage.

Khan told the Fulhamish podcast: "I would like to retain as many of our key players as possible, and that includes Aleksandar Mitrovic. We made a big investment to get him here and I believe in him.

"Last season he played so hard for us and he sets a great tone in the dressing room and on the pitch. I am doing everything I can to keep him.

"I have a great relationship with him and we have had a lot of talks. He loves Fulham, he loves the club, he loves the people here, he loves his team-mates."
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 26, 2019, 08:18:31 PM
I think he is staying,looked happy modelling new strip.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rambler on June 26, 2019, 09:31:27 PM
We need to get a bit of a move on with transfers. Just like all of the seasons under the Khan's dealings late in the transfer window have led to slow starts.
Maybe our squad is ok, but let's not lie, we need new players and investment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.

Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:12:11 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 26, 2019, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 26, 2019, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Liam LindsayI'd take Liam Lindsay

Who?

Barnsley centre back who has just joined Stoke.

The one who got relegated to League one the year before last? Why is good enough for a promotion chasing team exactly?

Mainly because he's a better defender than Tim Ream of Denis Odoi, less error prone than Maxime Le Marchand and less injury prone than Alfie Mawson.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on June 26, 2019, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2019, 07:48:53 PM
I honestly think (mayb in the minority with this) Le March and Mawson is a good enough CB pairing for promotion - add to that Ream and Odoi as back up and this is fine. These two are especially suited to a return to a possession style aswell as both are more than comfortable on the ball

+1

Quote from: Deeping_white on June 26, 2019, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: sarnian on June 26, 2019, 07:20:35 PM
Sky and others highlighted Odoi and Ream's weaknesses the season before last. Why do you therefore think they will suffice this season when they have not improved.

Because they're not marking the likes of Sergio Aguero and Harry Kane, and instead are going to have to deal with Chris Martin and Matt Smith type players, who are neither quick or prolific with world class movement like PL strikers. The margin for error is much, much higher and we've currently got at least one CB who's PL class in Mawson, so it means we only need one of Ream or Odoi to play alongside him should we not sign another centre half

+1
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 27, 2019, 01:16:33 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2019, 07:48:53 PM
I honestly think (mayb in the minority with this) Le March and Mawson is a good enough CB pairing for promotion - add to that Ream and Odoi as back up and this is fine. These two are especially suited to a return to a possession style aswell as both are more than comfortable on the ball

While we lack Premier League quality players in more defensive positions, we have a tonne of upper championship quality players. We only need to find 6 starters and 3 reserves from these 17 each game: Betts, Fabri, Rodak, Christie, Fossey, Dramah, S.Sess, Odoi, Djola, Mawson, Ream, MLM, Bryan, Edun, Cisse, McDonald and Anguissa. And, frankly against teams like Charlton if we score twice we will probably win with our weakest backline (Rodak, Fossey, S.Sess, Odoi, Edun with Dramah & Djola on bench).

The front needs 5 starters and 4 reserves every game from 12 players: Seri, Jonasen, Riley, Cairney, Kebano, Torres, Kamara, Mitro, Fonte, Atyie, R.Sess and Elliott. That is less depth and we need a strong attack even against the weakest teams. We cannot play Riley, Kebano, Torres, Fonte and Elliott against Charlton and not drop points.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 01:56:53 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.

Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
Is it written somewhere that players in the Championship cant play for their national team? It's not like he isn't older and they don't know what he can do.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 02:14:01 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 01:56:53 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.

Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
Is it written somewhere that players in the Championship cant play for their national team? It's not like he isn't older and they don't know what he can do.

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I think it's more to do with the visibility of the Championship from Babel's perspective and quality of the Championship from Ronald Koeman's perspective. Same reason Diego Rolan was hesitant to go to the Championship two summers ago (however badly that turned out for him). Especially with it being a Euros year Babel will be competing with players like Quincy Promes and Steven Bergwijn who should be playing in the Champions League next season as opposed to the Championship.

It's not like say a Mitrovic, where the only Striker who is as good or better than him for Serbia is Jovic for example, Netherlands have very viable alternatives to Babel who'll take any chance they get to overtake him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 02:32:19 AM
Yes...but they already know what they get with Babel regardless of where he plays. Is the Turkish league better than the Championship?

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 02:36:28 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 02:32:19 AM
Yes...but they already know what they get with Babel regardless of where he plays. Is the Turkish league better than the Championship?

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Top end of the Super Lig is better than anything the Championship can offer, and the Champions League definitely is- and he'd be going straight into the groups if he goes to Galatasaray. So he's guaranteed 6 Champions League games, and depending on what their draw is more Champions League games or Europa League games going into 2020.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 27, 2019, 04:27:37 AM
Ryan Babel is a free to play for whomever he wants, I suspect he has a lot of great offers. The Championship is not what I'd be choosing as an older player, much better to choose a competition with a 34 game season like Turkey.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on June 27, 2019, 08:18:37 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.

I gather that is unlikely, as Rotherham wanted him again, but their manager said it was not going to happen as Fulham wanted him back. (Recall reading that somewhere)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 27, 2019, 08:58:21 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 01:56:53 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.

Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
Is it written somewhere that players in the Championship cant play for their national team? It's not like he isn't older and they don't know what he can do.

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The dutch FA have asked their players to play top flight football iso they can play in top eurorpean competitions.

As long as top division it doesn't matter other wise De Ligt would not play for them
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on June 27, 2019, 09:18:26 AM
I too, am of the opinion that we won't be retaining Babels services but some speculated and I merely said it would be an incredible achievement to keep Cairney, Mitro and Babel.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 27, 2019, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: junior white on June 27, 2019, 08:58:21 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 01:56:53 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.

Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
Is it written somewhere that players in the Championship cant play for their national team? It's not like he isn't older and they don't know what he can do.

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The dutch FA have asked their players to play top flight football iso they can play in top eurorpean competitions.

As long as top division it doesn't matter other wise De Ligt would not play for them

Is that true, or speculation? Since it seem strange to put the focus on being the top league in a country (any country?) instead of quality (the Championship is arguably probably in the top 6-8 leagues in Europe, albeit with a lack of European competition). One would think the Dutch FA would not be idiots, but who knows. With that said, obviously the higher level you play, the better.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on June 27, 2019, 11:38:02 AM
Either way, Babel will not be wearing a Fulham shirt next season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on June 27, 2019, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 27, 2019, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: junior white on June 27, 2019, 08:58:21 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 01:56:53 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.

Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
Is it written somewhere that players in the Championship cant play for their national team? It's not like he isn't older and they don't know what he can do.

Sent from my CMR-W19 using Tapatalk
The dutch FA have asked their players to play top flight football iso they can play in top eurorpean competitions.

As long as top division it doesn't matter other wise De Ligt would not play for them

Is that true, or speculation? Since it seem strange to put the focus on being the top league in a country (any country?) instead of quality (the Championship is arguably probably in the top 6-8 leagues in Europe, albeit with a lack of European competition). One would think the Dutch FA would not be idiots, but who knows. With that said, obviously the higher level you play, the better.
Dutch guy I work with said to me after our relegation was confirmed, that it meant Babel would leave as Koeman had said "any player playing for the dutch national team (under his control) had to be playing in the top division of any country in which they play". SO guess it means Eredivisie is ok as would be the Scottish prem, both of which (For me) are not better than the championship, i guess maybe because they could play Europa or Champions league.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.

Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak). 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JimOG on June 27, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
Looked at Rodak compilation of his season at Rotherham and he was brilliant. He may be our starting keeper!  Would also like to see us acquire Michael Hector (or Mings) to give us a frightening aerial presence at the other end. Hector, my Sheff Wed friend tells me, would be an outstanding acquisition. The other aspect of this thread I find frustrating is this constant harping back to Odoi, MLM, Ream being as good as is in the Championship. We're trying to build a side good enough to get back to the Premiership....AND stay there. That means finding a core group of 7/8 who will make this transition. None of those I've mention nor TC, KMc, Stefan etc are of that standard.
Have we learned nothing?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.

Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak). 
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.

Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak). 

Good keeper Bialkowski,but knee problem.
Was off to Millwall but failed medical 3 days ago.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.

Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak). 
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.

Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak). 

Good keeper Bialkowski,but knee problem.
Was off to Millwall but failed medical 3 days ago.

I speak to a Millwall fan, he didn't fail the medical as such. The medical flagged up a knee injury he had 13 years ago that presumably they didn't know about, and Millwall tried to knock the price down for him because of said 13 year old injury and Ipswich told them to do one. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.

Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak). 
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.

Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak). 

Good keeper Bialkowski,but knee problem.
Was off to Millwall but failed medical 3 days ago.

I speak to a Millwall fan, he didn't fail the medical as such. The medical flagged up a knee injury he had 13 years ago that presumably they didn't know about, and Millwall tried to knock the price down for him because of said 13 year old injury and Ipswich told them to do one. 

Right.👍
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on June 27, 2019, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: JimOG on June 27, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
The other aspect of this thread I find frustrating is this constant harping back to Odoi, MLM, Ream being as good as is in the Championship. We're trying to build a side good enough to get back to the Premiership....AND stay there. That means finding a core group of 7/8 who will make this transition. None of those I've mention nor TC, KMc, Stefan etc are of that standard.
Have we learned nothing?

NAIL. ON. HEAD.

if we go up, we need to much better than we were two years ago, or the failure of last season will just happen again.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on June 27, 2019, 04:58:00 PM
Quote from: JimOG on June 27, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
Looked at Rodak compilation of his season at Rotherham and he was brilliant. He may be our starting keeper!  Would also like to see us acquire Michael Hector (or Mings) to give us a frightening aerial presence at the other end. Hector, my Sheff Wed friend tells me, would be an outstanding acquisition. The other aspect of this thread I find frustrating is this constant harping back to Odoi, MLM, Ream being as good as is in the Championship. We're trying to build a side good enough to get back to the Premiership....AND stay there. That means finding a core group of 7/8 who will make this transition. None of those I've mention nor TC, KMc, Stefan etc are of that standard.
Have we learned nothing?

Absolutely spot on Jim! We must aim for better!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on June 27, 2019, 09:45:28 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on June 27, 2019, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: JimOG on June 27, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
The other aspect of this thread I find frustrating is this constant harping back to Odoi, MLM, Ream being as good as is in the Championship. We're trying to build a side good enough to get back to the Premiership....AND stay there. That means finding a core group of 7/8 who will make this transition. None of those I've mention nor TC, KMc, Stefan etc are of that standard.
Have we learned nothing?

NAIL. ON. HEAD.

if we go up, we need to much better than we were two years ago, or the failure of last season will just happen again.

Firstly, if we were going into another PL season with this squad, right now, I'd expect us to survive. We were crap because we threw a bunch of strangers together in August. Give them a pre-season and a sensible manager, and I firmly believe most of our current squad are as good as Burnley, Brighton and Southampton's players.

Secondly, it doesn't make any sense at all to expect us to build a PL team in the Championship. NEWSFLASH: To the extent changes are made to our squad this summer, generally they're not going to be improvements.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on June 27, 2019, 09:53:28 PM
@Statto:

:plus one:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on June 28, 2019, 07:22:22 AM
Spot on statto.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on June 28, 2019, 10:39:52 AM
Ryan Babel has completed a move to Galatasaray
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on June 28, 2019, 05:31:47 PM
Matt Targett in talks with Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Carborundum on June 28, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
We might not be as bad, but I'd expect a miserable season in the premier league if we were still there.  We can't defend.  A monstrously dominant centre half and a quality right back are going to be vital.  Having shelled out for an increased-price season ticket, I don't want to be seeing opposition forwards treating our defenders like soft-touches.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on June 28, 2019, 05:49:43 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 27, 2019, 09:45:28 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on June 27, 2019, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: JimOG on June 27, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
The other aspect of this thread I find frustrating is this constant harping back to Odoi, MLM, Ream being as good as is in the Championship. We're trying to build a side good enough to get back to the Premiership....AND stay there. That means finding a core group of 7/8 who will make this transition. None of those I've mention nor TC, KMc, Stefan etc are of that standard.
Have we learned nothing?

NAIL. ON. HEAD.

if we go up, we need to much better than we were two years ago, or the failure of last season will just happen again.

Firstly, if we were going into another PL season with this squad, right now, I'd expect us to survive. We were crap because we threw a bunch of strangers together in August. Give them a pre-season and a sensible manager, and I firmly believe most of our current squad are as good as Burnley, Brighton and Southampton's players.

Secondly, it doesn't make any sense at all to expect us to build a PL team in the Championship. NEWSFLASH: To the extent changes are made to our squad this summer, generally they're not going to be improvements.

I tend to agree. We might make one or two minor gains in quality but we will also go backwards in some areas. As an example we won't be signing another Babel any time soon.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 28, 2019, 06:18:00 PM
I'd be happy with simply a replacement for Ryan Fredericks.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on June 28, 2019, 06:37:26 PM
Come on , face facts, Babel has gone, Mitrovic, Sess., Seri and Anguissa are likely to be away at the first real opportunity. There is going to be some serious rebuilding needed in a short space of time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Friendsoffulham on June 29, 2019, 10:24:32 AM
Southampton and Aston Villa have agreed a £14m fee for Matt Targett, rising to £17m including add-ons. Expect the deal for the left-back to go through this weekend. Good business for Saints; solid long term investment for AVFC
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tonywa on June 29, 2019, 11:36:51 AM
I was thinking he was overpriced, but given what we paid for some of our players last season he's probably a bargain.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FulhamStu on June 29, 2019, 11:51:44 AM
Quote from: Tonywa on June 29, 2019, 11:36:51 AM
I was thinking he was overpriced, but given what we paid for some of our players last season he's probably a bargain.

How much did we pay for Bryan ?   That is currently a lot of money for a good solid but limited player.  Then again, your right in that prices paid these days are totally over the top.   Wonder how much Fredericks is worth ?   Think we miss him a lot more than Targett.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on June 29, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on June 29, 2019, 11:51:44 AM
Quote from: Tonywa on June 29, 2019, 11:36:51 AM
I was thinking he was overpriced, but given what we paid for some of our players last season he's probably a bargain.

How much did we pay for Bryan ?   That is currently a lot of money for a good solid but limited player.  Then again, your right in that prices paid these days are totally over the top.   Wonder how much Fredericks is worth ?   Think we miss him a lot more than Targett.

We paid 6 or 7 million for Bryan IIRC. Which I think is a reasonable price for a top Championship defender.

We were also apparently willing to pay £15 million last year but Southampton didn't want to sell for that price then.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Old Count on June 29, 2019, 01:09:56 PM
Quote from: filham on June 28, 2019, 06:37:26 PM
Come on , face facts, Babel has gone, Mitrovic, Sess., Seri and Anguissa are likely to be away at the first real opportunity. There is going to be some serious rebuilding needed in a short space of time.

Not facts 'till after the event.  Believe the worst if you like. I reckon there's a good chance all will stay. Seri might want away (especially if he reads this board) but we don't have to let him go if we don't want to. Same for the rest.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on June 29, 2019, 03:43:55 PM
Leeds United will complete the loan signing of Helder Costa from Wolves next week.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on June 29, 2019, 03:49:01 PM
Costa going to Leeds on loan, we should be all over players like that, including Cavaleiro, especially with Babel gone and Sess going, they're leagues above Kebano and Ayite.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 29, 2019, 04:17:58 PM
Sess...Mitro...and Anguissa still here...still under contract and more likely to stay by the day.

Any news on Ryan's injury?

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on June 30, 2019, 10:02:01 AM
Most recent rumours are about us loaning the younger Chalobah and buying Charlie Austin. Austin has been in bad form for a couple of seasons now, so not sure about that.

Anyone seen Trevoh Chalobah play? Only seen him during some England youth games and he didn't look like anything special then.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on June 30, 2019, 11:04:29 AM
Quote from: Tabby on June 30, 2019, 10:02:01 AM
Most recent rumours are about us loaning the younger Chalobah and buying Charlie Austin. Austin has been in bad form for a couple of seasons now, so not sure about that.

Anyone seen Trevoh Chalobah play? Only seen him during some England youth games and he didn't look like anything special then.

And was part of a relegation team last year. Hardly a championship winning player
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on June 30, 2019, 12:36:09 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on June 29, 2019, 01:09:56 PM
Quote from: filham on June 28, 2019, 06:37:26 PM
Come on , face facts, Babel has gone, Mitrovic, Sess., Seri and Anguissa are likely to be away at the first real opportunity. There is going to be some serious rebuilding needed in a short space of time.

Not facts 'till after the event.  Believe the worst if you like. I reckon there's a good chance all will stay. Seri might want away (especially if he reads this board) but we don't have to let him go if we don't want to. Same for the rest.
Babel has gone that is a fact and as I said  it is likely that Seri, Sess., Mitro and Anquissa will follow. Wish they would stay as that would save us a lot of money and further risk in the transfer market but if we plan on it and have no plans to replace them we could be in trouble.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on June 30, 2019, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on June 29, 2019, 03:49:01 PM
Costa going to Leeds on loan, we should be all over players like that, including Cavaleiro, especially with Babel gone and Sess going, they're leagues above Kebano and Ayite.

Exactly..

Actually.. not signing Costa.. and if we don't sign Cavaleiro... TK has a lot to answer for imo. Ready made players to shoot us up the leagues.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on June 30, 2019, 02:28:29 PM
Tony Khan mentions in this interview about the AEW show last night that he spoke to Jorge Mendes on the phone last night (or two nights ago from today) and during the show last night as well at about 17 minutes and 30 seconds into the interview. Obvious one is Cavaleiro there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoLHJ2cK0dU
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on June 30, 2019, 06:11:37 PM
Quote from: filham on June 30, 2019, 12:36:09 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on June 29, 2019, 01:09:56 PM
Quote from: filham on June 28, 2019, 06:37:26 PM
Come on , face facts, Babel has gone, Mitrovic, Sess., Seri and Anguissa are likely to be away at the first real opportunity. There is going to be some serious rebuilding needed in a short space of time.

Not facts 'till after the event.  Believe the worst if you like. I reckon there's a good chance all will stay. Seri might want away (especially if he reads this board) but we don't have to let him go if we don't want to. Same for the rest.
Babel has gone that is a fact and as I said  it is likely that Seri, Sess., Mitro and Anquissa will follow. Wish they would stay as that would save us a lot of money and further risk in the transfer market but if we plan on it and have no plans to replace them we could be in trouble.
Why is it likely that Anguissa and Mitro will follow. And please don't say "it just is".

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BernieBoy on June 30, 2019, 10:59:27 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 30, 2019, 02:28:29 PM
Tony Khan mentions in this interview about the AEW show last night that he spoke to Jorge Mendes on the phone last night (or two nights ago from today) and during the show last night as well at about 17 minutes and 30 seconds into the interview. Obvious one is Cavaleiro there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoLHJ2cK0dU

Very interesting.... let's hope it's promising news!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 01, 2019, 06:11:59 AM
1st of July.
Come on Fulham, let's start getting them through the door,if there is going to be any. 049:gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 01, 2019, 07:25:56 AM
Today's Mirror reporting Real Betis close to signing Mitro for £25 million
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 01, 2019, 08:54:33 AM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 01, 2019, 07:25:56 AM
Today's Mirror reporting Real Betis close to signing Mitro for £25 million

Double that & then tell them to do one. We don´t have to sell him to anyone.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on July 01, 2019, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 01, 2019, 08:54:33 AM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 01, 2019, 07:25:56 AM
Today's Mirror reporting Real Betis close to signing Mitro for £25 million

Double that & then tell them to do one. We don´t have to sell him to anyone.

Exactly! Not going anywhere!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 01, 2019, 10:17:05 AM
Quote from: Milo on July 01, 2019, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 01, 2019, 08:54:33 AM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 01, 2019, 07:25:56 AM
Today's Mirror reporting Real Betis close to signing Mitro for £25 million

Double that & then tell them to do one. We don´t have to sell him to anyone.

Exactly! Not going anywhere!!
The Mitro situation needs sorting one way or the other without delay to enable Scotty to start assembling a team.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rvFFC on July 01, 2019, 10:35:26 AM
From Matt Law on Twitter:
Hearing Fulham are very keen on trying to sign Pontus Jansson from Leeds
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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 01, 2019, 10:47:54 AM
Pontus Jansson would fit the bill for physical right sided CB at least.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 01, 2019, 11:02:46 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!

Only reason I can see is that Bielsa is looking to replace him with a player he prefers. But who knows.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 01, 2019, 01:41:57 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!

Because we are a more attractive club than Leeds.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 01, 2019, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 01, 2019, 01:41:57 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!

Because we are a more attractive club than Leeds.

and because he was very peed off about letting villa score that goal and may have fallen out with the manager
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 01, 2019, 02:04:59 PM
Pontus Jansson, excellent player in a winning team, potential nut job in a struggling team. He gets a lot of silly yellow cards when he gets frustrated and loses his temper in the 89th minute. Not too bad last season but very poor disciplinary record in the previous seasons for Leeds.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on July 01, 2019, 02:47:07 PM
I like Jansson as well. However, I'd really prefer Mike van der Hoorn who was quite good for Swansea. May be tricky though because Villa are interested and Swansea could extend his contract. He's also a potential captain there.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 01, 2019, 03:16:59 PM
Just read on transfer market there has been 92 arrivals at Championship clubs in this window, surely that is loans coming back as well.
Leeds have signed 2 today Blackburn the same.
While we wait patiently... Coyw
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 01, 2019, 03:20:53 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!

Because our owner is rich and can pay him more.  (not sure its true...just thinking of a reason)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 03:46:24 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 01, 2019, 03:20:53 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!

Because our owner is rich and can pay him more.  (not sure its true...just thinking of a reason)

Things to consider, they have a world class manager, are a big club, ranked no.1 favourites to go up, have a decent squad that are likely to sign players like Helder Costa (if reports are true), and will be on a good wage already at Leeds, unless hes got an issue with manager, I just can't see why one of their best players would come to us. That's no disrespect to us, but I just can't see it. Selling one of your best players to a promotion rival? 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

If we're also expecting all/most of Mitrovic, Seri/Johansen and Sessegnon to leave and looking to replace then obviously I'd want that done soon
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 03:46:55 PM
Don't know the source that well, but an apparent Chelsea itk thinks we're after Martell Taylor-Crossdale, and are competing with Hoffenfeim for him (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190701/7803c0739ed63433be653cd23844f2d2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 03:46:55 PM
Don't know the source that well, but an apparent Chelsea itk thinks we're after Martell Taylor-Crossdale, and are competing with Hoffenfeim for him (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190701/7803c0739ed63433be653cd23844f2d2.jpg)

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Would be happy with this sort of loan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 03:50:06 PM
Wouldn't be a loan, apparently his contract is up so would be a free transfer/minor fee

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 03:52:06 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 03:50:06 PM
Wouldn't be a loan, apparently his contract is up so would be a free transfer/minor fee

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I just saw Chelsea and presumed it's a loan!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Friendsoffulham on July 01, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
#FFC are set to sign #NUFC striker Dwight Gayle, a fee of £12m was agreed late last night and Gayle has travelled to West London to complete a medical #WBA
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 01, 2019, 04:20:19 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 01, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
#FFC are set to sign #NUFC striker Dwight Gayle, a fee of £12m was agreed late last night and Gayle has travelled to West London to complete a medical #WBA

No brainer at that fee.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 01, 2019, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 01, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
#FFC are set to sign #NUFC striker Dwight Gayle, a fee of £12m was agreed late last night and Gayle has travelled to West London to complete a medical #WBA

With a massive asterisk of the fact it's only being reported by 1 Twitter account with about 400 followers. Don't see it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 01, 2019, 04:24:49 PM
... and on Jansson. While I'm in no way saying he's a bad player, I do think he gets overrated because he's a bit of a passion merchant. Leeds would want ridiculous money for him, and I'm not sure he's worth it.

Would rather go for a Tomori, Michael Hector etc. on loan and put the money into a "big" forward signing e.g. Cavaleiro.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fernhurst on July 01, 2019, 04:27:49 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 01, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
#FFC are set to sign #NUFC striker Dwight Gayle, a fee of £12m was agreed late last night and Gayle has travelled to West London to complete a medical #WBA

Source??? Nothing on Sky yet
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 01, 2019, 04:38:43 PM
Latest score
QPR 5
Fulham 0

Still plenty of time though
COYW
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 01, 2019, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 03:46:55 PM
Don't know the source that well, but an apparent Chelsea itk thinks we're after Martell Taylor-Crossdale, and are competing with Hoffenfeim for him (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190701/7803c0739ed63433be653cd23844f2d2.jpg)

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Would be happy with this sort of loan.

He once scored a hat-trick against us, so there might be something in this.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 01, 2019, 05:21:10 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on July 01, 2019, 04:27:49 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 01, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
#FFC are set to sign #NUFC striker Dwight Gayle, a fee of £12m was agreed late last night and Gayle has travelled to West London to complete a medical #WBA

Source??? Nothing on Sky yet

Some account called Acura Sports News on twitter.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 01, 2019, 06:18:12 PM
Why would they sell him for 12 mill. No chance
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 01, 2019, 06:33:26 PM
I could see Gayle going for the 12-15m range later in the window when Newcastle will want some extra cash in to get a player they actually want. Isn't good enough for the Prem (and has proven so multiple times), big wages and will be 29 this year with a questionable injury record.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 01, 2019, 07:10:02 PM
The Chelsea boys name is too long,it will never
fit the back of the shirt.😑
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 01, 2019, 07:17:35 PM
In former players news, Ryan Tunnicliffe has joined Luton and Matt Smith has joined Milwall.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 08:11:32 PM
Lee Cattermole released by Sunderland.
Was an alright prem midfielder not that long ago, I'd take him on a free if only for some cover

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 01, 2019, 08:24:26 PM
Been looking at some Leeds forums about the Jansson rumour, and many there seem to think it has legs. Bielsa doesn't seem to rate him. Hope it happens, he'd be a solid leader in the defense, we need a couple of passion merchants in a good team.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 01, 2019, 08:47:24 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 01, 2019, 08:24:26 PM
Been looking at some Leeds forums about the Jansson rumour, and many there seem to think it has legs. Bielsa doesn't seem to rate him. Hope it happens, he'd be a solid leader in the defense, we need a couple of passion merchants in a good team.


It's too good a deal for Fulham for it to be true.   I'd much rather have a starting CB paring of Janson/Ream than Mawson/Ream.

We'll see though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on July 01, 2019, 08:52:22 PM
Surely, with Benitez leaving, Gayle will have his sights set on a EPL season? He's young enough to still make his mark.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Asotosyios on July 01, 2019, 09:20:43 PM
BRISTOL CITY SIGN KALAS

Bristol City have paid a club record fee to sign Tomas Kalas on a four-year contract from Chelsea.

Sky sources understand the fee to be £8m.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.

Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on July 01, 2019, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.

Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters

As soon as he was tested at any sort of level at CB, he was a train wreck.

We should be looking st finding a solid partner for Mawson.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 01, 2019, 11:34:49 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 01, 2019, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.

Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters

As soon as he was tested at any sort of level at CB, he was a train wreck.

We should be looking st finding a solid partner for Mawson.

Agreed. He cost us the playoff v Reading too
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Andy S on July 01, 2019, 11:59:58 PM
That is untrue he didn't cost us the play off. He was unlucky to give away a hand ball in the box. I think you will see a few of those next season. Let's hope we have someone who is good at spot kicks.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 02, 2019, 12:44:18 AM
I'd have to go through a few more seasons, but I'm 99% certain 8m for Kalas is the most a Championship team has ever spent on a Defender while they're in the Championship. Obviously we spent 15m on Mawson etc. but that was when we were in the Prem.

It's a ridiculous amount of money for him, and as already said- he was dropped for Odoi in our promotion season. That's not to say Kalas is a bad player, but for 8m we could probably get a RB and pay a loan fee for a Hector/Tomori type Centre-Back AND have money left over to put towards a forward.

I see it as similar to what Tony Khan mentioned about signing Andreas Pereira on loan in that sense. I'd rather go the Johansen/Piazon option than the Kalas option in this scenario.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 02, 2019, 06:24:32 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 02, 2019, 12:44:18 AM
I'd have to go through a few more seasons, but I'm 99% certain 8m for Kalas is the most a Championship team has ever spent on a Defender while they're in the Championship. Obviously we spent 15m on Mawson etc. but that was when we were in the Prem.

It's a ridiculous amount of money for him, and as already said- he was dropped for Odoi in our promotion season. That's not to say Kalas is a bad player, but for 8m we could probably get a RB and pay a loan fee for a Hector/Tomori type Centre-Back AND have money left over to put towards a forward.

I see it as similar to what Tony Khan mentioned about signing Andreas Pereira on loan in that sense. I'd rather go the Johansen/Piazon option than the Kalas option in this scenario.

I'll beat the record for "most expensive defender ever bought by a championship team" will be broken before the transfer window is finished.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on July 02, 2019, 06:47:10 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 01, 2019, 11:34:49 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 01, 2019, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.

Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters

As soon as he was tested at any sort of level at CB, he was a train wreck.

We should be looking st finding a solid partner for Mawson.

Agreed. He cost us the playoff v Reading too

Hang about, I was talking about Odoi! Who, by the way, almost cost us the playoff final as well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: RaySmith on July 02, 2019, 07:00:16 AM
But Odoi's goal got us into the Final - not to mention his sterling performances in every game during our great run- a player who, whatever his faults, always gives his all for Fulham.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on July 02, 2019, 07:28:18 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on July 02, 2019, 07:00:16 AM
But Odoi's goal got us into the Final - not to mention his sterling performances in every game during our great run- a player who, whatever his faults, always gives his all for Fulham.
if every player gave his efforts last season we would still be PL.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 02, 2019, 07:50:43 AM
Leeds about to sign helder Costa on loan, would have been useful to us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:55:52 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.

Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters

He didn't displace Kalas though. He was only brought in because Kalas was injured. He was kept in because of the winning streak, then dropped again when we got to the PL.

He's also our best RCB at the moment. I accept we could play Mawson on the right but I suspect the reason he looked so shocking for us is his more natural side, like Ream and MLM, is the left.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 02, 2019, 08:02:16 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 02, 2019, 12:44:18 AM
I'd have to go through a few more seasons, but I'm 99% certain 8m for Kalas is the most a Championship team has ever spent on a Defender while they're in the Championship. Obviously we spent 15m on Mawson etc. but that was when we were in the Prem.

It's a ridiculous amount of money for him, and as already said- he was dropped for Odoi in our promotion season. That's not to say Kalas is a bad player, but for 8m we could probably get a RB and pay a loan fee for a Hector/Tomori type Centre-Back AND have money left over to put towards a forward.

I see it as similar to what Tony Khan mentioned about signing Andreas Pereira on loan in that sense. I'd rather go the Johansen/Piazon option than the Kalas option in this scenario.

James Chester was more and that was 3 yrs ago. With player inflation since then £8m seems very reasonable IMO for a player who has consistently got teams into the top 6 over the last 4-5 years
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 02, 2019, 08:49:37 AM
Same old. Other clubs seem to sign players within days of negotiations starting but we take weeks & weeks & then lose out to another club while we are faffing about.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 02, 2019, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 01, 2019, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.

Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters

As soon as he was tested at any sort of level at CB, he was a train wreck.

We should be looking st finding a solid partner for Mawson.



I have never understood the hate for odoi on here. Also on what basis should we be finding a solid partner for Mawson. I did not see him setting the world alight last season, mostly the opposite. Not saying he won't come good but yet more selective arguing.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on July 02, 2019, 09:47:25 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 01, 2019, 04:38:43 PM
Latest score
QPR 5
Fulham 0

COYW

In regards posts that try to knock our club (of which there are more than enough on here) this is surely one of the most flimsy
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 02, 2019, 10:22:18 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 02, 2019, 08:49:37 AM
Same old. Other clubs seem to sign players within days of negotiations starting but we take weeks & weeks & then lose out to another club while we are faffing about.

If Tony Kahn is talking to Jorge Mendes on a regular basis, it should be possible to get a deal done? Leeds are about to sign another Wolves player now, and they already got other deals done.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Neutral Zone Ultra on July 02, 2019, 11:14:16 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.

Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
Would like to remind you that both are left sided only. We saw how bad Mawson is at RCB and it goes without saying that we need a new right sider.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ALG01 on July 02, 2019, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on July 02, 2019, 11:14:16 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.

Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
Would like to remind you that both are left sided only. We saw how bad Mawson is at RCB and it goes without saying that we need a new right sider.

And MLM is a disaster waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 02, 2019, 12:03:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Capable but Championship winning back line? I dont think so. Mawson yes, Bryan yes but we need another CB and a RB
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:09:51 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 02, 2019, 12:03:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Capable but Championship winning back line? I dont think so. Mawson yes, Bryan yes but we need another CB and a RB

Put it this way, if we splash out on say Jannson, I wouldn't be annoyed as long as we improve elsewhere. BUT if we didn't, I think between the 4 CB's, they can be in a top 6 team, and top 2 if some perform above expectations. Just look at some CB's in top 2 in previous seasons, Cardiff and Sheffield come to mind, with a solid midfield which I think we have (currently), a strong goalscorer (currently Mitro) and bryan on one flank (he needs to up his game but is definitely capable at this level) I think our biggest gap is unchanged from last year.....RB. If Sess goes, I think our biggest weakness is our wide men so, i'm of the opinion we need to strengthen the most out wide, both going forward and at back.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on July 02, 2019, 12:12:00 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 02, 2019, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 01, 2019, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully

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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.

Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters

As soon as he was tested at any sort of level at CB, he was a train wreck.

We should be looking st finding a solid partner for Mawson.



I have never understood the hate for odoi on here. Also on what basis should we be finding a solid partner for Mawson. I did not see him setting the world alight last season, mostly the opposite. Not saying he won't come good but yet more selective arguing.

I'm really sorry, I didn't mean for it to come across as I hated the guy or dislike him. Far from it, I love Odoi to pieces in the same way I loved Bairdy and Pantsil.

I just think he makes a few too many mistakes at CB for it to be a comfortable position for him.

Regarding Mawson, I'd completely agree as well. He was average at his best last year, but he's young enough and has shown a bit before his move to us that suggests there's more in the tank and it's worth investing a bit more time.

I'd have money on the fact in 3 years time Mawson will be an unquestionably better CB then Odoi, so maybe we should gamble on that and try and bring the best out of him?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 02, 2019, 12:38:34 PM
We only have one CB that can play on the right hand side of the two, and he's a converted full back.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ..FOF.. on July 02, 2019, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.

...and I think a great defence starts with a vocal goalkeeper.... in English preferably.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 02, 2019, 01:41:59 PM
Quote from: ..FOF.. on July 02, 2019, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.

...and I think a great defence starts with a vocal goalkeeper.... in English preferably.
Though saying that, I seem to remember Mark Scwarzer communicated with his backline in German and that worked out alright

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 02, 2019, 01:41:59 PM
Quote from: ..FOF.. on July 02, 2019, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.

...and I think a great defence starts with a vocal goalkeeper.... in English preferably.
Though saying that, I seem to remember Mark Scwarzer communicated with his backline in German and that worked out alright

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It sounded like German,but it was broad Zummerset,as he loved singing "I'm a cider drinker" during the game.😉
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on July 02, 2019, 01:49:32 PM
Heart says, signings soon?

Head says, don't expect much but the errors of the past will be learned from.

Computer says......... No!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on July 02, 2019, 01:49:32 PM
Heart says, signings soon?

Head says, don't expect much but the errors of the past will be learned from.

Computer says......... No!

Keep the faith,we'll definitely get some waste of money for £30 million on last day,and 2 frees from Liverpool and Scandinavia who will never kick a ball for us...Coyw😉
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 02:48:37 PM
Quote from: ..FOF.. on July 02, 2019, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.

...and I think a great defence starts with a vocal goalkeeper.... in English preferably.

Exactly 👍
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 02, 2019, 01:41:59 PM
Quote from: ..FOF.. on July 02, 2019, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.

...and I think a great defence starts with a vocal goalkeeper.... in English preferably.
Though saying that, I seem to remember Mark Scwarzer communicated with his backline in German and that worked out alright

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It sounded like German,but it was broad Zummerset,as he loved singing "I'm a cider drinker" during the game.😉

When he was in goal, and the ball was up the other end, I use to hear him whistle to that song " I've got a brand new combined harvester ". and he always use to have a long piece of grass in his mouth.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: elgreenio on July 02, 2019, 03:49:11 PM
We've got much bigger priorities than between the sticks.

Marko Arnautovic handed in a transfer request? that guy is an absolute mercenary.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?

I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.   
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?

I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.

I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 02, 2019, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: elgreenio on July 02, 2019, 03:49:11 PM
We've got much bigger priorities than between the sticks.

Marko Arnautovic handed in a transfer request? that guy is an absolute mercenary.

I recall him wanting to move to China last window as well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 02, 2019, 06:14:35 PM
Regarding Jansson, looking a bit deeper Leeds had agreed to sell him to Krasnodar (of Sigurdsson fame) last summer. Jansson said in an interview that he didn't fancy going to Russia even though the offer was lucurative.

The fee was around £10 million according to the Yorkshire post. That seems like it'd be in the ballpark of what we could offer, but I'm not sure if they'd sell to someone in the same division.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 02, 2019, 06:32:30 PM
Will we ever sign someone early like other clubs. In the podcast TK said about getting good deals late in the window. I think he's too obsessed with getting the best possible deal than paying slightly more and not risking losing the player.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 02, 2019, 06:32:30 PM
Will we ever sign someone early like other clubs. In the podcast TK said about getting good deals late in the window. I think he's too obsessed with getting the best possible deal than paying slightly more and not risking losing the player.

But he's not getting any good deals is he? Overpaying has been the one common factor in most TK signings IMO.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?

I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.

I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.

CB is priority #1 IMO.

We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 07:43:34 PM
Medical tomorrow apparently.
Cough twice and look at the ceiling...😰
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 02, 2019, 07:52:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 07:43:34 PM
Medical tomorrow apparently.
Cough twice and look at the ceiling...😰

🙀
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 07:54:03 PM
And that's just to become Groundsman.🙋
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 02, 2019, 08:07:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 07:54:03 PM
And that's just to become Groundsman.🙋

New staff for the gin bar then.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?

I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.

I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.

CB is priority #1 IMO.

We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.

Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?

I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.

I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.

CB is priority #1 IMO.

We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.

Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.

Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 02, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?

I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.

I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.

CB is priority #1 IMO.

We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.

Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.

Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.

Christie@RB > Odoi@CB
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:40:44 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?

I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.

I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.

CB is priority #1 IMO.

We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.

Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.

Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.

But we don't have even a single right footed CB in out squad!?!

Odoi is a 178cm RB who was forced to play CB because we didn't have anyone else available. The rest of our CBs are left footed and have been awful at RCB.

Odoi was brilliant for us at RB in the Championship but rarely given the chance in his best position. I have no problems whatsoever with Odoi at RB next season but I don't want to see him as a regular starter at CB.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 01:43:29 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:40:44 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PM


I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly

CB is priority #1 IMO.

We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.

Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.

Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.

But we don't have even a single right footed CB in out squad!?!

Odoi is a 178cm RB who was forced to play CB because we didn't have anyone else available. The rest of our CBs are left footed and have been awful at RCB.

Odoi was brilliant for us at RB in the Championship but rarely given the chance in his best position. I have no problems whatsoever with Odoi at RB next season but I don't want to see him as a regular starter at CB.

We are short a few players and it's hard to assess our biggest need next season but my opinion is we need to obtain (loan or buy) players upfront and out wide especially for the bench.

But the player we most need to BUY (as oppose to loan) is our Right Centre Back. If we get promoted, having developed a great centre back partnership is key to 2020-21 survival (like Wolves and Cardiff). If we don't get promoted this season, next seasons promotion effort will depend on improved cohesion (like our late 2017/18 campaign) especially in the centre of defence.

The last position we should be loaning is our starting right centre-back. My tip for TK buy a RCB and work out with the FFC accountant the mix of buys and loans for the other positions. All new wingers every season is not a disaster, but new CBs each season is.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 09:17:21 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?

I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.

I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.

CB is priority #1 IMO.

We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.

Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.

Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.

Christie@RB > Odoi@CB

Well, yep. 

And that's before we talk about the wealth of young talent we have a right back who have at least a chance of stepping up next season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 09:19:25 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.

Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?

I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.

I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.

CB is priority #1 IMO.

We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.

Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.

Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.

Christie@RB > Odoi@CB

I do not agree with this. I've already said, I wouldn't mind a CB, but I already think Odoi, Ream, Mawson and MLM are good enough for championship at CB. Christie, not convinced. I think we need at least 4 players including pacey wide men going forward, a RB and a CB and ideally a striker so I'm not against strengthening positions, I just see our width as our absolute biggest issue.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 03, 2019, 10:14:49 AM
Let's not beat around the bush here, defensively we need a tall commanding RCB, and a similar RB who can defend. One of our many weaknesses is defending at set pieces and in the air.
Odoi plays out of his skin, but he is only human and he cannot be expected to do it every match, because he can't.
La Marchand is ok but cannot tackle a boiled egg, as for Christie, he has to improve his all round game, but none of those three can be starters, too many unforced errors whilst in possession. Ok for back up but little else. We need ruthless players with a strong mentality and with a physical presence, and we need them now to bed in with our system of play, and play in friendlies, not in August.
Perhaps if the owners son is not doing anything and can drag himself away from waffling nonsense, and drop his wrestling and grid iron business for 5 minutes and concentrate on his job with Fulham which he is incapable of, as this next month is the most important in Fulhams current calendar, and stop talking a load of flannel to cover his incompetence, and try and help Scottie and his coaches prepare for the new season.  Action speaks louder than words and bull shite.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tooting legend on July 03, 2019, 11:03:06 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 07:43:34 PM
Medical tomorrow apparently.
Cough twice and look at the ceiling...😰


Where's this medical that is supposed to be happening
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 11:14:45 AM
With Brighton signing Trossard last week maybe Knockhaert could become available
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 03, 2019, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 11:14:45 AM
With Brighton signing Trossard last week maybe Knockhaert could become available

Knockhaert would not be a bad signing. He is a bit of a maverick and makes things happen, he has plenty of experience of the English League so shouldn't take 24 months to settle in, and he only lives down the road. The problem is that TK has probably never heard of him. So computer says no.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 03, 2019, 11:36:38 AM
How much do the "big" clubs pay the media to do their tapping up of players.? It unsettles the player. Palace are suffering this with Zaha with the Arse doing all they can to get him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 09:19:25 AM

I do not agree with this. I've already said, I wouldn't mind a CB, but I already think Odoi, Ream, Mawson and MLM are good enough for championship at CB. Christie, not convinced. I think we need at least 4 players including pacey wide men going forward, a RB and a CB and ideally a striker so I'm not against strengthening positions, I just see our width as our absolute biggest issue.

Hey listen, fair enough you can have an opinion about certain players based on whatever criteria you fancy. And if you weren't very happy with Christie last season then that's cool and you are by no means in the minority on that one.

But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.

He's at least competent for what we need next season. Even if he isn't, we currently have S.Sessegnon, Fossey and Dramah able to slot in. We don't need another right back.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 12:24:55 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 09:19:25 AM

I do not agree with this. I've already said, I wouldn't mind a CB, but I already think Odoi, Ream, Mawson and MLM are good enough for championship at CB. Christie, not convinced. I think we need at least 4 players including pacey wide men going forward, a RB and a CB and ideally a striker so I'm not against strengthening positions, I just see our width as our absolute biggest issue.

Hey listen, fair enough you can have an opinion about certain players based on whatever criteria you fancy. And if you weren't very happy with Christie last season then that's cool and you are by no means in the minority on that one.

But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.

He's at least competent for what we need next season. Even if he isn't, we currently have S.Sessegnon, Fossey and Dramah able to slot in. We don't need another right back.

The problem I have with Christie is, he wasn't highly rated at Boro. There's a reason he was made available for transfer in January and at cost. He came to us, didn't play much, behind Fred, then when he did play, we threw him in deep end in the EPL and he was massively found wanting. Every time I see him play, I'm underwhelmed and I just think we need a better starting player at RB. I'd love for one of the youngsters to come through, but its hard to suggest that's going to happen when they haven't had the chance in front of Chirstie who was appalling last season. He's fine for a squad role, but we really need to upgrade on width as that seems vitally important to successful championship sides. (including our success). That's my two pence.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 03, 2019, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 12:24:55 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 09:19:25 AM

I do not agree with this. I've already said, I wouldn't mind a CB, but I already think Odoi, Ream, Mawson and MLM are good enough for championship at CB. Christie, not convinced. I think we need at least 4 players including pacey wide men going forward, a RB and a CB and ideally a striker so I'm not against strengthening positions, I just see our width as our absolute biggest issue.

Hey listen, fair enough you can have an opinion about certain players based on whatever criteria you fancy. And if you weren't very happy with Christie last season then that's cool and you are by no means in the minority on that one.

But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.

He's at least competent for what we need next season. Even if he isn't, we currently have S.Sessegnon, Fossey and Dramah able to slot in. We don't need another right back.

The problem I have with Christie is, he wasn't highly rated at Boro. There's a reason he was made available for transfer in January and at cost. He came to us, didn't play much, behind Fred, then when he did play, we threw him in deep end in the EPL and he was massively found wanting. Every time I see him play, I'm underwhelmed and I just think we need a better starting player at RB. I'd love for one of the youngsters to come through, but its hard to suggest that's going to happen when they haven't had the chance in front of Chirstie who was appalling last season. He's fine for a squad role, but we really need to upgrade on width as that seems vitally important to successful championship sides. (including our success). That's my two pence.

And it's spot on
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on July 03, 2019, 01:14:26 PM
Interestingly enough, Christie shut down a number of premier league flankers during our time. Although he was criticized, incorrectly, about his lack of tracking back vs Arsenal at home, when he set the record straight that Slavisa wanted him to stay up the pitch.

Defensively, I think he's adequate. Sure, if we can upgrade, by all means. However, going forward, he's poor in crossing with his right foot, but ironically set up two goals with his left (lay-off to Babel v Cardiff, chip to Sess > Mitro vs Southampton).

If we review a couple goals from our promotion season as well, he supplied Mitro with some lovely crosses, including Mitro's first goal for the club vs Sheffield Utd away.

My thing with Christie is how it looks like he's always going to trip with the ball at his feet. I feel his legs are so heavy that they are only meant to use in momentum of a dead sprint, and the ball itself just gets in the way. It's hard to watch sometimes. With that said, I enjoy the effort he puts in and dedication to getting the job done. Hopefully he challenges whoever comes in to take his spot.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 01:29:14 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on July 03, 2019, 01:14:26 PM
Interestingly enough, Christie shut down a number of premier league flankers during our time. Although he was criticized, incorrectly, about his lack of tracking back vs Arsenal at home, when he set the record straight that Slavisa wanted him to stay up the pitch.

Defensively, I think he's adequate. Sure, if we can upgrade, by all means. However, going forward, he's poor in crossing with his right foot, but ironically set up two goals with his left (lay-off to Babel v Cardiff, chip to Sess > Mitro vs Southampton).

If we review a couple goals from our promotion season as well, he supplied Mitro with some lovely crosses, including Mitro's first goal for the club vs Sheffield Utd away.

My thing with Christie is how it looks like he's always going to trip with the ball at his feet. I feel his legs are so heavy that they are only meant to use in momentum of a dead sprint, and the ball itself just gets in the way. It's hard to watch sometimes. With that said, I enjoy the effort he puts in and dedication to getting the job done. Hopefully he challenges whoever comes in to take his spot.

I agree with most of this Matt, but surely all players at PL level (and most other levels) can use their weaker foot to pass the ball a yard or two (as in the set up to Babel's goal). Everyone except Cairney that is :)

In my opinion Christie is good enough for a top 6 Championship team. I also feel that as long as the players stay, we are good enough everywhere, but would also prefer a scoring winger and a back up striker. As for CB, of course an upgrade would be good but not sure that it is very easy to find someone that wants to join us and is also much better than the 4 we have. I think Jansson is about the same level, a little tougher which is good but also lacks in concentration quite often. But at least he is right footed, so there is that. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 03, 2019, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 12:24:55 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.

The problem I have with Christie is, he wasn't highly rated at Boro.

He was only there for half a season and was their first choice RB. Not sure how more highly-rated he could be in the absence of a "Player of the Half-season" award.

FWIW I spent most of last season thinking he looked crap but I think he'll look much better in the Championship

Also I neglected to mention, Odoi can play RB, so rather than saying Christie@RB > Odoi@CB, perhaps the formula that shows our biggest weakness should be Odoi@RB > Odoi@CB
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 03, 2019, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 12:24:55 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.

The problem I have with Christie is, he wasn't highly rated at Boro.

He was only there for half a season and was their first choice RB. Not sure how more highly-rated he could be in the absence of a "Player of the Half-season" award.

FWIW I spent most of last season thinking he looked crap but I think he'll look much better in the Championship

Also I neglected to mention, Odoi can play RB, so rather than saying Christie@RB > Odoi@CB, perhaps the formula that shows our biggest weakness should be Odoi@RB > Odoi@CB

Selling your no.1 right back at cost in January, to me, suggests he wasn't really rated that highly. I do agree though that i'd prefer to see more of Odoi at RB but even so, I'm sticking to my guns here and sayign our biggest weakness, still, is our wide men.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 02:29:56 PM
Sky Sports have confirmed that Leeds have signed Helder Costa and are about to make a third bid for Cody Drameh.
We are looking at Crawley's David Sesay as a replacement for Cody
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 03, 2019, 02:31:35 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 02:29:56 PM
Sky Sports have confirmed that Leeds have signed Helder Costa and are about to make a third bid for Cody Drameh.
We are looking at Crawley's David Sesay as a replacement for Cody

Would be weird to sign a replacement for a player that hasn't ever played for the first team.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 02:29:56 PM
Sky Sports have confirmed that Leeds have signed Helder Costa and are about to make a third bid for Cody Drameh.
We are looking at Crawley's David Sesay as a replacement for Cody

That's a heck of a signing for Leeds. Favourites bettering current squad with quality.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fernhurst on July 03, 2019, 02:41:34 PM
Agreed, where is our quality signings??

Last quality - MacDonald and Cairney - who got those two in ?????? Kit ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 03, 2019, 02:44:40 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on July 03, 2019, 02:41:34 PM
Agreed, where is our quality signings??

Last quality - MacDonald and Cairney - who got those two in ?????? Kit ?

Bit harsh on Mitrovic I think.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 03, 2019, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 12:24:55 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.

The problem I have with Christie is, he wasn't highly rated at Boro.

He was only there for half a season and was their first choice RB. Not sure how more highly-rated he could be in the absence of a "Player of the Half-season" award.

FWIW I spent most of last season thinking he looked crap but I think he'll look much better in the Championship

Also I neglected to mention, Odoi can play RB, so rather than saying Christie@RB > Odoi@CB, perhaps the formula that shows our biggest weakness should be Odoi@RB > Odoi@CB

Selling your no.1 right back at cost in January, to me, suggests he wasn't really rated that highly. I do agree though that i'd prefer to see more of Odoi at RB but even so, I'm sticking to my guns here and sayign our biggest weakness, still, is our wide men.

Our seven highest value defenders are Christie, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan. Which player leaps out as the worst player there?

If you think the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first. If you think worst player is Christie or Odoi, we should get a right back first. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM

Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.

Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.

So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 03, 2019, 02:53:05 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM

Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.

Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.

So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?

Djalo is actually our ONLY right footed CB... and he's not even part of the first team squad.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 03, 2019, 02:57:54 PM
I hope we have another winger lined up. I'd love Cavaleiro. We are crying out for pace.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on July 03, 2019, 02:58:06 PM
In other news, Anguissa has been playing lights out for Cameroon, as a single DMF most of the time. I will not be surprised if we see clubs trying to snatch him from us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on July 03, 2019, 03:01:38 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 03, 2019, 02:53:05 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM

Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.

Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.

So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?

Djalo is actually our ONLY right footed CB... and he's not even part of the first team squad.

Not true, Mawson is a right footed centre half, he just prefers to play on the left. His passing range for Swansea showed that he frequently switched the ball out the the right wing with cross field passes as a means of playing out from the back
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 03:09:43 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 03, 2019, 02:53:05 PM

Djalo is actually our ONLY right footed CB... and he's not even part of the first team squad.

I would say that at some point Odoi should probably be considered as a CB, even though he obviously can play several positions. If so, he is right footed.

Also, whether or not you are right or left footed is not necessarily a huge problem, It is not like it is uncommon for a team to have two centre backs that prefers the same foot, although it is more common that they are both right footed. Hughes and Hangeland were both right footed, but did alright for example (and myself I played most games as a right footed left sided centre back, at a slightly lower level  :005:). It is much more important to be comfortable at your position which comes down to several factors. One of those may be that you play in a position that makes it easier for you to use your preferred foot as much as possible, although I would argue that this is not a very big issue for centre backs in general. Another thing is how used you are to a particular position, but a left sided centre back should be able to adapt to play on the right side instead given some adjustment time. I would argue however that the most important aspect is that the centre backs develop a good partnership between them, as well as with the other defenders. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM

Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.

Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.

So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?

Well, I guess we could buy a right back, make Christie our fifth choice centre back and still say bye to Djalo.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 03:38:06 PM
Since we're talking about right backs...and yes, we've got nice ones in development...but...

Does anyone remember Diogo Dalot who played against us last season?    He's 20 years old and he's now 3rd (if not 4th) on Manchester United's RB depth chart.   

Unless United is planning to convert him to a right winger Dalot now has both Basaka and Ashley Young ahead of him as starting right backs.    Mateo Darmian is still on the roster and he's a backup LB and RB.   Eric Bailly is a CB, but he's played RB for his previous squad and ManUtd.

If I were TK I'd be on the phone with United today asking for a loan for him.   He's fast (he was the fastest player on the pitch), strong...can cross at least as well as Christie.

imo he'd be a nice loan pickup in a position of need.  And we know United don't have a problem loaning us players.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM

Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.

Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.

So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?

Well, I guess we could buy a right back, make Christie our fifth choice centre back and still say bye to Djalo.

haha this chat made me chuckle, I was struggling to see the logic until the need to get rid of Djalo was a factor!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 03, 2019, 03:44:53 PM
Zambo hasn't been playing as a proper #6 DM for Cameroon. He's been playing as the sort of Johansen #8 type midfielder, and Mandjeck has been playing as the "proper" DM (I think it was Kunde yesterday, but still). But he has been absolutely exceptional, could've been on for 3 MOTMs out of 3 yesterday but they gave it to Oyongo.

If he stays and we want to get the best out of him we need a Kante-type midfielder next to him who'll sit deep and tackle endlessly for 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 03, 2019, 03:44:53 PM
Zambo hasn't been playing as a proper #6 DM for Cameroon. He's been playing as the sort of Johansen #8 type midfielder, and Mandjeck has been playing as the "proper" DM (I think it was Kunde yesterday, but still). But he has been absolutely exceptional, could've been on for 3 MOTMs out of 3 yesterday but they gave it to Oyongo.

If he stays and we want to get the best out of him we need a Kante-type midfielder next to him who'll sit deep and tackle endlessly for 90 minutes.

Couple things we know.


Depending on who the RB is.... Cairney, Stefjo and Guissa are good enough offensively and defensively to win games in the championship...retain possession and open up opposing defenses... as long as the back line and the keeper doesn't suck.

I don't think Fulham is currently thinking about getting a true #6.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 04:10:01 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM

Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.

Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.

So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?

Well, I guess we could buy a right back, make Christie our fifth choice centre back and still say bye to Djalo.

Djalo has almost never been part of the squad. McDonald has been preferred to him, and he is still here so Djalo is likely at best our sixth choice centre back. I know you claim that we absolutely need a very strong squad in numbers, but I prefer a slightly weaker squad if the first team is more likely to win games to begin with. Improving our fifth choice centre back would not be very high on my list. In the unlikely event that we lose four centre backs to suspensions/injury at the same time then I would hope that we could use one of the youngsters for a game or two. Jenz is training with the first team squad, and Steven Sessegnon has played centre back before.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 03:58:53 PM


Couple things we know.


  • Fulham are planning to run a 4-3-3 (even though I prefer the 4-2-3-1 with Cairney)

    Stefjo is coming back

    Cairney, Stefjo and Andre are probably the projected midfield starters

    Anguissa is more a poor man's Pogba than he is a poor man's Kante.   He 'wants' to be a better version of Seri.

Depending on who the RB is.... Cairney, Stefjo and Guissa are good enough offensively and defensively to win games in the championship...retain possession and open up opposing defenses... as long as the back line and the keeper doesn't suck.

I don't think Fulham is currently thinking about getting a true #6.

I agree that our midfielders are good enough as it stands. However, do we really know that we are planning to play 4-3-3? How can we possibly know that at this point?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 03, 2019, 04:14:24 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on July 03, 2019, 02:58:06 PM
In other news, Anguissa has been playing lights out for Cameroon, as a single DMF most of the time. I will not be surprised if we see clubs trying to snatch him from us.

I don't think he'll go. We won't sell at a loss and they aren't gonna spend upwards of £30m based on Afcon.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 03, 2019, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 03:58:53 PM


Couple things we know.


  • Fulham are planning to run a 4-3-3 (even though I prefer the 4-2-3-1 with Cairney)

    Stefjo is coming back

    Cairney, Stefjo and Andre are probably the projected midfield starters

    Anguissa is more a poor man's Pogba than he is a poor man's Kante.   He 'wants' to be a better version of Seri.

Depending on who the RB is.... Cairney, Stefjo and Guissa are good enough offensively and defensively to win games in the championship...retain possession and open up opposing defenses... as long as the back line and the keeper doesn't suck.

I don't think Fulham is currently thinking about getting a true #6.

I agree that our midfielders are good enough as it stands. However, do we really know that we are planning to play 4-3-3? How can we possibly know that at this point?

Tony Khan said as much in his Podcast interview. But he might have just been meant the basic 3 in the midfield control possession principle, which would open us up to a 4-2-3-1, 4-3-1-2, 3-5-2 etc.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 03, 2019, 04:24:03 PM
Wish we'd sign someone. I'm a bit... bored
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 04:24:45 PM
Sky Sports reporting we are interested in signing Ezri Konsa  from Brentford
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 03, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Well so far Leeds have 3x PL loaners, Helder Costa and another I can't remember, signed sealed already.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 03, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Well so far Leeds have 3x PL loaners, Helder Costa and another I can't remember, signed sealed already.

Yeah...but we still have Mitro, Sess, TC and Anguissa under contract and when the season ended a lot here thought at least 3 of them would be gone by now.

We've got 4 weeks left and no real news of any of them definitely leaving, so imo I'll take that.   If we definitely lost three of those players AND didn't bring in anyone I'd be worried.    Right now...as a squad...imo Fulham have one up on Leeds.   Oh, and we know Stefjo is coming back as well.   
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 05:06:55 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 04:24:45 PM
Sky Sports reporting we are interested in signing Ezri Konsa  from Brentford

Haven't seen much of him. Good signing? A quick google says Wolves are lining up bids though so.....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 05:37:53 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 03, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Well so far Leeds have 3x PL loaners, Helder Costa and another I can't remember, signed sealed already.

Yeah...but we still have Mitro, Sess, TC and Anguissa under contract and when the season ended a lot here thought at least 3 of them would be gone by now.

We've got 4 weeks left and no real news of any of them definitely leaving, so imo I'll take that.   If we definitely lost three of those players AND didn't bring in anyone I'd be worried.    Right now...as a squad...imo Fulham have one up on Leeds.   Oh, and we know Stefjo is coming back as well.   

Squad of 29
Goalkeepers (3): Betts, Fabri, Rodak
Defenders (11): Christie, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM, Edun, Bryan, Fossey, Dramah, S.Sess
Midfielders (7): Cisse, McDonald, Anguissa, Johasen, Seri, Cairney, Riley,
Forwards (8): R.Sess, Kamara, Mitrovoic, Fonte, Atyie, Kebano, Torres, Elliott

I think that squad can easily do much better than the first half of 2017/18.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 05:45:19 PM
Groundsman failed medical.😢
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2019, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
:dead horse:
What on earth are you going on and on and on about?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2019, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
:dead horse:
What on earth are you going on and on and on about?

They've made 7 signings to our 0 I believe.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 03, 2019, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2019, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
:dead horse:
What on earth are you going on and on and on about?

They've made 7 signings to our 0 I believe.

And 7 of the 7 wouldn't get in our team so are irrelevant
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on July 03, 2019, 07:39:24 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 03, 2019, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2019, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
:dead horse:
What on earth are you going on and on and on about?

They've made 7 signings to our 0 I believe.

And 7 of the 7 wouldn't get in our team so are irrelevant

They've also had 5 depart (to a club), so technically 0-2?

https://www.transfermarkt.us/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/saison_id/2019/pos//detailpos/0/w_s//plus/1#zugaenge
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 03, 2019, 07:46:24 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 05:37:53 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 03, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Well so far Leeds have 3x PL loaners, Helder Costa and another I can't remember, signed sealed already.

Yeah...but we still have Mitro, Sess, TC and Anguissa under contract and when the season ended a lot here thought at least 3 of them would be gone by now.

We've got 4 weeks left and no real news of any of them definitely leaving, so imo I'll take that.   If we definitely lost three of those players AND didn't bring in anyone I'd be worried.    Right now...as a squad...imo Fulham have one up on Leeds.   Oh, and we know Stefjo is coming back as well.   

Squad of 29
Goalkeepers (3): Betts, Fabri, Rodak
Defenders (11): Christie, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM, Edun, Bryan, Fossey, Dramah, S.Sess
Midfielders (7): Cisse, McDonald, Anguissa, Johasen, Seri, Cairney, Riley,
Forwards (8): R.Sess, Kamara, Mitrovoic, Fonte, Atyie, Kebano, Torres, Elliott

I think that squad can easily do much better than the first half of 2017/18.

In my opinion.. NB = not better

Betts (same as before) Fabri (nb), Rodak (nb)
Defenders (11): Christie (worse) , Odoi (same), Djalo (not good enough), Mawson (big upgrade), Ream (same), MLM (slight upgrade?), Edun (too early), Bryan (upgrade) Fossey (2 early), Dramah (2 early), S.Sess (2 early)

Midfielders (7): Cisse (not good enough), McDonald (same), Anguissa (big upgrade) Johasen (same), Seri (leaving), Cairney (same), Riley (2 early)

Forwards (8): R.Sess (leaving), Kamara (half way through so upgrade), Mitrovoic (half way so big upgrade) Fonte (who knows), Atyie (same), Kebano (same), Torres (2 early), Elliott (2 early)

With that in mind, and the fact we will prob be losing Sess, we are better than the first half of the season but not by miles. We need a better CB, RB and wingers. We all know that though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up

Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)

Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 03, 2019, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up

Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)

Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa

Agree. We need a couple of wingers, and maybe a right sided CB, but the squad needs more filling rather than wholesale changes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 03, 2019, 09:32:15 PM
Assuming Mitrovic will stay is a huge assumption.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 09:33:15 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up

Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)

Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa

I know I keep saying it but its the wide men we need to improve on both defensively and attacking.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 09:55:18 PM
Quote from: filham on July 03, 2019, 09:32:15 PM
Assuming Mitrovic will stay is a huge assumption.
So you think Tony Khan is going to sell him without knowing for sure that we're locked in with another 20 goal scorer?

Yeah...no he's not. He said as much. I'd bet both he and Sess are starters for the Whites because business logic says so.

Odds on Sess moving for at least 20 mil ...low...injury...poor performance last year plus this being the last year of his contract...

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Radio now.....Palace want Seri.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SP on July 03, 2019, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Radio now.....Palace want Seri.


I wonder what for?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on July 03, 2019, 10:09:33 PM
Quote from: SP on July 03, 2019, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Radio now.....Palace want Seri.


I wonder what for?

Ball boy
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2019, 10:13:41 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on July 03, 2019, 07:39:24 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 03, 2019, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2019, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
:dead horse:
What on earth are you going on and on and on about?

They've made 7 signings to our 0 I believe.

And 7 of the 7 wouldn't get in our team so are irrelevant

They've also had 5 depart (to a club), so technically 0-2?

https://www.transfermarkt.us/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/saison_id/2019/pos//detailpos/0/w_s//plus/1#zugaenge
Agree with replies...
What on earth has it to do with us?
Surely riverside jests if he thinks any of them should have been a target for us?
Makes me laugh that some moan because of lack of signings, but are prepared to moan about who is signed!
Look at the apparent '100 million' we spent last year and the amount of moans about that...
Can't win for some!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ScalleysDad on July 03, 2019, 10:14:58 PM
Under Hodgson Seri might flourish but I am not sure the latter has the mindset/application required for the routine training sessions of again, again, again. If he does go it will create a place to fill in the squad and more specifically in midfield. That would be interesting. Those hedging their bets on promotion must be looking at a different team sheet as for me a midfield of Stefjo, Cairney, Anguissa and possibly Sess might not be enough.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SP on July 03, 2019, 10:15:39 PM
An alarming new low, QPR envy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 04, 2019, 01:46:19 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up

Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)

Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa

We are probably better than the second half of 17/18 with this squad, if we lose Seri and Sessegnon we are still better than the first half of 17/18 and if the sales money is used for a four loans we are much stronger than the first half of 17/18 with money in the bank for more in winter transfers window. Mitrovoic playing all season will be a big advantage, especially if he gets 25-30 goals.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ealex40 on July 04, 2019, 01:54:08 AM

Fulham keen to sign Brentford centre-back Ezri Konsa

Fulham are interested in signing defender Ezri Konsa from west London rivals Brentford, Sky Sports News understands.

The Whites have made strengthening at centre-back a priority this summer and would prefer to sign Konsa on loan.


The 21-year-old, who has two years left on his Bees contract plus the option of a further year, is also being tracked by a host of Premier League clubs.

There have been reports that Wolves are interested, but Sky Sports News has been told that is not the case.

Konsa's contract is understood to contain a release clause in the region of £12m, but the Bees have other contractual protections in place should that be activated.

Konsa joined Brentford from Charlton last summer and played 42 times in the Sky Bet Championship last season.

He was part of the England Under-21 squad that failed to get out of the group stages at the European U21 Championships last month.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 04, 2019, 08:20:44 AM
The transfer market is really bonkers. Brighton are asking for £40 mil for Lewis Dunk. Leicester want him. Replacement for Maguire I suppose.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 04, 2019, 08:56:25 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 04, 2019, 08:20:44 AM
The transfer market is really bonkers. Brighton are asking for £40 mil for Lewis Dunk. Leicester want him. Replacement for Maguire I suppose.

We'd have him at the back instead of Denis Odoi if it wasn't for Mackintosh haggling over £500k a couple of years ago
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 04, 2019, 09:00:49 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 04, 2019, 08:20:44 AM
The transfer market is really bonkers. Brighton are asking for £40 mil for Lewis Dunk. Leicester want him. Replacement for Maguire I suppose.

It was bonkers last season too especially for defensive midfielders, that's why West Ham offerred €29m for Anguissa before we beat it. This year everyone seems to need centre backs especially ManUnited, ManCity and Arsenal, no surprise Lewis Dunk is sort after he is kind of the next tier down.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 09:14:25 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 04, 2019, 09:00:49 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 04, 2019, 08:20:44 AM
The transfer market is really bonkers. Brighton are asking for £40 mil for Lewis Dunk. Leicester want him. Replacement for Maguire I suppose.

It was bonkers last season too especially for defensive midfielders, that's why West Ham offerred €29m for Anguissa before we beat it. This year everyone seems to need centre backs especially ManUnited, ManCity and Arsenal, no surprise Lewis Dunk is sort after he is kind of the next tier down.

Maybe someone can remind me but weren't we set to sign Dunk a few years back but we argued over like 500k on the transfer fee?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: toshes mate on July 04, 2019, 09:21:42 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up

Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)

Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa
Far too simplistic to be a guide of even the most vague terms.  It is how people play together as a team that matters and not their individual (and arbitrary worth) comparison to some arbitrary worth you can manage to clutch from a whole host of such things.  Partnerships matter everywhere especially behind the doors marked DoF and CEO.  They can be individually brilliant but worthless if they don't drive the team in the right direction.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 09:23:58 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on July 04, 2019, 09:21:42 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up

Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)

Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa
Far too simplistic to be a guide of even the most vague terms.  It is how people play together as a team that matters and not their individual (and arbitrary worth) comparison to some arbitrary worth you can manage to clutch from a whole host of such things.  Partnerships matter everywhere especially behind the doors marked DoF and CEO.  They can be individually brilliant but worthless if they don't drive the team in the right direction.

I'd argue the biggest weakness to this argument is the fact the championship has jumped year on year in terms of quality. We'll need a better roster than we had previously to go up, and in depth.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on July 04, 2019, 09:46:37 AM
Championship will have moved on just as League 1 teams have. Championship players spilling down to the league below.

We cannot underestimate this league again!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 04, 2019, 09:59:55 AM
Quote from: Milo on July 04, 2019, 09:46:37 AM
Championship will have moved on just as League 1 teams have. Championship players spilling down to the league below.

We cannot underestimate this league again!

Very true. I believe the difference of going up is Mitro. We have to keep him whatever the cost.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 04, 2019, 09:59:55 AM
Quote from: Milo on July 04, 2019, 09:46:37 AM
Championship will have moved on just as League 1 teams have. Championship players spilling down to the league below.

We cannot underestimate this league again!

Very true. I believe the difference of going up is Mitro. We have to keep him whatever the cost.

I don't disagree but I do think ensuring quality around him is also key though. West Brom had Gayle AND Rodriguez and didn't go up. Absolutely no reason not to go up with those two on your front line if you properly invested in a midfield and defence. (I think they lacked in the middle tbh)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 04, 2019, 11:22:17 AM
Quote from: SP on July 03, 2019, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Radio now.....Palace want Seri.


I wonder what for?
I like Seri but we proved last season that there is not room for Seri and Cairney in the same team. It would be good to see Seri leave and another striker/wide right player (Gayle) come in quickly. We may then be able to bolt up the doors, concentrate on training, and say no more transfers confident of having a team to make a top six position by Christmas.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 04, 2019, 02:34:22 PM
Another in at Leeds,20yo from Barca.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 04, 2019, 04:11:18 PM
Have been reliably informed that we have only been actively working on signing players for the last week as TK has been away with AEW, I wouldn't expect much movement for a while yet based on that. Unfortunate situation, hopefully anybody we bring in can hit the ground running, they won't get much of a pre-season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 04, 2019, 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: Chutney on July 04, 2019, 04:11:18 PM
Have been reliably informed that we have only been actively working on signing players for the last week as TK has been away with AEW, I wouldn't expect much movement for a while yet based on that. Unfortunate situation, hopefully anybody we bring in can hit the ground running, they won't get much of a pre-season.

The Fulhamish podcast was over a week ago and theres a video of them sat together whilst they are interviewing TK... would this not have been done in the UK?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.

Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 04:52:29 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:51:30 PM
... and by the way I'd heard that we were in talks with a Right-Back called Kingsley Ehizibue from PEC Zwolle and we had a fee agreed but he chose to go to Koln for top flight football. And that was over a month ago now. So we clearly have been working on signings.

Was Khan in the UK at the time? Might be why it fell through.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ealex40 on July 04, 2019, 05:06:05 PM
Southampton are willing to listen to offers for two goalkeepers, Fraser Forster and Alex McCarthy, Sky Sports News understands.


Would love if we could sign Alex McCarthy. Have always thought how good he is. Probably end up too expensive for us to compete with Premier clubs.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on July 04, 2019, 05:06:05 PM
Southampton are willing to listen to offers for two goalkeepers, Fraser Forster and Alex McCarthy, Sky Sports News understands.


Would love if we could sign Alex McCarthy. Have always thought how good he is. Probably end up too expensive for us to compete with Premier clubs.

Its crazy how far Forster stock has deminished. From a future england no.1 and saints no.1 to no.3 and barely used even in cup matches.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.

Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.

Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 04, 2019, 05:54:35 PM
Would love us to go for Matt Ritchie and Anthony Knockaert, imagine them playing either side of Mitrovic !!!
😮👊🏻
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 04, 2019, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on July 04, 2019, 05:06:05 PM
Southampton are willing to listen to offers for two goalkeepers, Fraser Forster and Alex McCarthy, Sky Sports News understands.


Would love if we could sign Alex McCarthy. Have always thought how good he is. Probably end up too expensive for us to compete with Premier clubs.

Its crazy how far Forster stock has deminished. From a future england no.1 and saints no.1 to no.3 and barely used even in cup matches.

I was a keeper,I know when your confidence goes its a hard fight back,Foster and Joe Hart both.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 04, 2019, 07:02:50 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 04, 2019, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on July 04, 2019, 05:06:05 PM
Southampton are willing to listen to offers for two goalkeepers, Fraser Forster and Alex McCarthy, Sky Sports News understands.


Would love if we could sign Alex McCarthy. Have always thought how good he is. Probably end up too expensive for us to compete with Premier clubs.

Its crazy how far Forster stock has deminished. From a future england no.1 and saints no.1 to no.3 and barely used even in cup matches.

I was a keeper,I know when your confidence goes its a hard fight back,Foster and Joe Hart both.

Joe Harts problem was he always got to pumped up for big games and made a balls up
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on July 04, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 04:52:29 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:51:30 PM
... and by the way I'd heard that we were in talks with a Right-Back called Kingsley Ehizibue from PEC Zwolle and we had a fee agreed but he chose to go to Koln for top flight football. And that was over a month ago now. So we clearly have been working on signings.

Was Khan in the UK at the time? Might be why it fell through.

This doesn't make any sense to me.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 04, 2019, 07:42:23 PM
West Ham have agreed to sell Arnautovic to a Chinese club, dont know if they are calling his bluff but if he goes they might want Mitro
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ScalleysDad on July 04, 2019, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 04, 2019, 07:42:23 PM
West Ham have agreed to sell Arnautovic to a Chinese club, dont know if they are calling his bluff but if he goes they might want Mitro


If he does go they will almost certainly upset the apparent Karma at Motspur as they will need a replacement match fit and ready to go. Will Mitro go, will the money be enough? I suspect this could become a thread all on its own.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 04, 2019, 09:46:59 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on July 04, 2019, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 04, 2019, 07:42:23 PM
West Ham have agreed to sell Arnautovic to a Chinese club, dont know if they are calling his bluff but if he goes they might want Mitro


If he does go they will almost certainly upset the apparent Karma at Motspur as they will need a replacement match fit and ready to go. Will Mitro go, will the money be enough? I suspect this could become a thread all on its own.


Not trying to be funny, but I have never been convinced that mitro suits the way that pelligrini wants his team to play. I personally believe he wants a mobile front line and for all his good points that is not micro.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 04, 2019, 09:53:42 PM
Not even getting any transfer rumours recently  :HD:  :012:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 04, 2019, 10:34:30 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.

Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.

Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).

I accept he can work remotely... but are you suggesting he's devoting 100% of his time to Fulham, and just choosing to do it from the US because he prefers the weather or food over there?

Clearly the reason he's in the US is that he's spending much of his time on things related to his wrestling business and the Jaguars.

So yes of course he can pick up the phone and speak to a player, agent, Mackintosh etc. But he only has one mouth. He can't speak to them if he's busy on a telecon with Giant Haystacks and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: YankeeJim on July 04, 2019, 11:13:41 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 04, 2019, 10:34:30 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.

Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.

Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).

I accept he can work remotely... but are you suggesting he's devoting 100% of his time to Fulham, and just choosing to do it from the US because he prefers the weather or food over there?

Clearly the reason he's in the US is that he's spending much of his time on things related to his wrestling business and the Jaguars.

So yes of course he can pick up the phone and speak to a player, agent, Mackintosh etc. But he only has one mouth. He can't speak to them if he's busy on a telecon with Giant Haystacks and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.

Guess he'll have an excuse when we buy our next $30 bust.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 04, 2019, 11:37:42 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 04, 2019, 10:34:30 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.

Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.

Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).

I accept he can work remotely... but are you suggesting he's devoting 100% of his time to Fulham, and just choosing to do it from the US because he prefers the weather or food over there?

Clearly the reason he's in the US is that he's spending much of his time on things related to his wrestling business and the Jaguars.

So yes of course he can pick up the phone and speak to a player, agent, Mackintosh etc. But he only has one mouth. He can't speak to them if he's busy on a telecon with Giant Haystacks and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.


This. People seem to forgot he has other priorities, so while yes, on paper it is possible for him to work remotely, it isn't possible for him to do so while he's physically working on something else.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 11:39:01 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 04, 2019, 10:34:30 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.

Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.

Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).

I accept he can work remotely... but are you suggesting he's devoting 100% of his time to Fulham, and just choosing to do it from the US because he prefers the weather or food over there?

Clearly the reason he's in the US is that he's spending much of his time on things related to his wrestling business and the Jaguars.

So yes of course he can pick up the phone and speak to a player, agent, Mackintosh etc. But he only has one mouth. He can't speak to them if he's busy on a telecon with Giant Haystacks and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.

I am in no ways making any suggestion. That's the problem with this mentality as a whole. The power of suggestion. It starts a snowball effect, which leads to these types of thought process that our DoF doesn't care to put in the time and effort for our team.

I'm sure the NFL and AEW could probably care less if he's physically in the office or not. They just want things to get done I'm sure. So, I'm not sure why we're sitting here worried about where he is physically just because something hasn't been done. There are way too many elements that I'm not or anyone on this board, that is privy to what is being done behind the scenes.

This is why I stay in my lane and enjoy this time of the year. Hoping that something happens. I'll be frank, we were spoiled last season with those rapid-fire signings - but it doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it at the time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 11:54:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 04, 2019, 10:34:30 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.

Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.

Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).

I accept he can work remotely... but are you suggesting he's devoting 100% of his time to Fulham, and just choosing to do it from the US because he prefers the weather or food over there?

Clearly the reason he's in the US is that he's spending much of his time on things related to his wrestling business and the Jaguars.

So yes of course he can pick up the phone and speak to a player, agent, Mackintosh etc. But he only has one mouth. He can't speak to them if he's busy on a telecon with Giant Haystacks and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.


Is he thinking about Fulham 24/7? No. But equally, he's not going to not talk to let's just Jorge Mendes because he mentioned him last weekend because he's talking to Chris Jericho instead. Again, similar to what I think some peoples perception is of him as our DoF, he has a whole network of people around him for AEW as he does with Fulham.

Just a quick Google later;
Chris Harrington- Vice President of Business Strategy
Dana Massie- Chief Marketing Officer & Chief Merchandising Officer
Nik Sobic- Vice President of Business Operations
Brandon Cutler- Executive Content Producer
Christopher Daniels- Head of Talent Relations
Brandi Rhodes- Chief Brand Officer
Leva Bates- Brand Coordinator
Dean Malenko- Senior Producer
Michael Cuellari- Associate Producer & Coordinator
Rafael Morffi- Director of Live Events
Shawn Carr- Head of Ring Crew

There's more as well.

It comes down to do I believe that Tony Khan's involvement with AEW (or the Jaguars) is costing us signings/delaying them, and I simply don't. Frankly, we don't even need many- and we know that regardless of Tony Khan's involvement in other companies he always saves 1 or 2 signings for Deadline Day as he has done in previous years without the "distraction" of Chris Jericho and The Young Bucks so I'm pretty chilled out about it all at the moment.

Plus as Tony Khan stated on the Podcast, we're waiting for some sales before making any big financial commitments to signings- and those sorts of signings are really all we need to actually improve the team whether it be a Cavaleiro, Pontus Jansson etc. From what I can tell we're waiting for Leicester to buy Tielemans so we can sell Seri to Monaco and that should give us some room to manoeuvre for example. We're at the end of the chain of dominoes so to speak.

I thought most people would've been saving this whole "Tony Khan/AEW" line until January when it could actually be a problem considering they're going to be running a weekly TV show that he'll presumably be at as the booker of said shows rather than when they're still just doing one show a month.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 05, 2019, 12:06:01 AM
Quote from: filham on July 04, 2019, 11:22:17 AM
Quote from: SP on July 03, 2019, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Radio now.....Palace want Seri.


I wonder what for?
I like Seri but we proved last season that there is not room for Seri and Cairney in the same team. It would be good to see Seri leave and another striker/wide right player (Gayle) come in quickly. We may then be able to bolt up the doors, concentrate on training, and say no more transfers confident of having a team to make a top six position by Christmas.

Seri could be a great loan or buy for Palace. Hodgson will produce the best out of him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:36:45 AM
Quote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 11:39:01 PM
I'm sure the NFL and AEW could probably care less if he's physically in the office or not.

Hmmm... I suspect they do care.
That's why he's there.
If they didn't care, surely he'd be here.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 05, 2019, 01:17:55 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?

I'm more interested in knowing how Tony Khan spends his every waking hour, seeing as you're clearly privy to that information to suggest he spends most of his time away from Fulham stuff. Beyond your perception that he's putting us on the back burner, and that is all it is.

For all we know as the plebs that we are he's been in America for three days since the season ended. The two AEW shows and the day he did the Podcast with Steve Austin. And on those days that he was in America, I'm fairly certain it's Brian Talbot's role to be at Motspur Park continuing on the recruitment process.

Can I also suggest if we're looking for a DoF with footballing experience we look to get Mike Rigg back? He fits the bill after all given he's worked for half a dozen clubs. Never mind that he was the villain of the piece while he was here as well.

I think people are just using the AEW thing to dig into Tony Khan for a perceived lack of activity when he's following the exact same pattern of the last two summers when he didn't have the AEW "distraction" in regard to when we're making signings (i.e. later than we'd all like him to) and this summer we're arguably in the best shape we've been in squad wise since Tony Khan took control of transfers and don't need many signings compared to the last two seasons. Let's say Mitrovic is going to Portugal with us hypothetically we'd be bringing;
Bettinelli, Fabri, Rodak, Christie, Odoi, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan, McDonald, Cairney, Johansen, Kebano, Ayite, Fonte, AK47, Mitrovic and whatever kids we're bringing along as well like S. Sessegnon, O'Riley etc.

I keep seeing this thing about us lacking chemistry at the start of the season because of a lack of early signings when we could have a team playing against Barnsley of;
Bettinelli (or Fabri); Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite made out of players who will be in Portugal with us next week (again, assuming Mitrovic is going).

Tony Khan's said publicly that we're waiting for sales to go through before making any big financial commitments, and those are the only signings we really need. Whether it be 12m on Cavaleiro etc. so I'm waiting for the aforementioned dominoes to fall into place like;
Tielemans- Monaco > Leicester, Seri- Fulham > Monaco which will then give us money to work with.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on July 05, 2019, 01:30:26 AM
Think we are diverging slightly from the thread topic..!

I know we are hardly swimming in transfer rumours but let's at least stick to thrashing out the few we do have!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 05, 2019, 01:36:24 AM
I saw Cyrus Christie was being linked with Sporting CP earlier. So that's the most random rumour we'll see this summer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 05, 2019, 05:19:18 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 05, 2019, 01:17:55 AM

I keep seeing this thing about us lacking chemistry at the start of the season because of a lack of early signings when we could have a team playing against Barnsley of; Bettinelli (or Fabri); Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite made out of players who will be in Portugal with us next week (again, assuming Mitrovic is going).

No matter how early you buy in the window, rarely there will be chemistry from the first game. The best way for a player to developing chemistry with the team is coming on from the bench over a few months and when the team is better with that player, then you trying starting with him to play 45-60 minutes. Based on last season, the player from the "summer transfer of 2018" that develop anything with the FFC that "resembled chemistry" quickest was Calum Chambers and it took him 14 weeks (from 7th August to the 11th November), and most other players took a lot longer (half took til March and the rest we are still counting).

For me, the mistake last season wasn't buying players on deadline day, the mistake was in the first game against Crystal Palace not playing the "front six from the playoff final". If the McDonald, Stefjo and Cairney trio were tried as a combination and had failed, then i think acceptance of new players would have been much better.

The first game this season against Barnsley, we should play a back five from last season and the front six from the playoff final (with Atiye at backup if someone leaves). I am huge fan of Anguissa, but I think it would be best for him to come off the bench until the Huddersfield and Cardiff games. Its a long season and the midfield trio of 17/18 can dispose of weaker teams early, plus it gives Anguissa a chance to ease himself into the Championship and play his first games against teams he knows.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 05, 2019, 06:22:20 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 05, 2019, 01:17:55 AM
Can I also suggest if we're looking for a DoF with footballing experience we look to get Mike Rigg back?

  :plus one:

Finally something we agree on, the man that built our promotion-winning team on a shoestring and hired Jokanovic... Not sure why he'd leave his current PL club to join us in the Championship however
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 05, 2019, 08:42:52 AM
a lot of DoF´s have been spotted doing the weekly supermarket shopping, mowing lawns, washing cars, drinking coffee at Starbucks. Do none of them have their minds 100% on their job?  How dare they , should be at their desk 24/7.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 05, 2019, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 05, 2019, 08:42:52 AM
a lot of DoF´s have been spotted doing the weekly supermarket shopping, mowing lawns, washing cars, drinking coffee at Starbucks. Do none of them have their minds 100% on their job?  How dare they , should be at their desk 24/7.

That is not really the same thing as having multiple jobs though, is it? Regardless of your position on TK, wouldn't it seemingly be better if FFC was his sole work priority?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 05, 2019, 09:25:46 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 05, 2019, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 05, 2019, 08:42:52 AM
a lot of DoF´s have been spotted doing the weekly supermarket shopping, mowing lawns, washing cars, drinking coffee at Starbucks. Do none of them have their minds 100% on their job?  How dare they , should be at their desk 24/7.

That is not really the same thing as having multiple jobs though, is it? Regardless of your position on TK, wouldn't it seemingly be better if FFC was his sole work priority?

DOF is a full time job, unless you're the owners son at fulham fc.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ScalleysDad on July 05, 2019, 09:44:29 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 04, 2019, 09:46:59 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on July 04, 2019, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 04, 2019, 07:42:23 PM
West Ham have agreed to sell Arnautovic to a Chinese club, dont know if they are calling his bluff but if he goes they might want Mitro


If he does go they will almost certainly upset the apparent Karma at Motspur as they will need a replacement match fit and ready to go. Will Mitro go, will the money be enough? I suspect this could become a thread all on its own.


Not trying to be funny, but I have never been convinced that mitro suits the way that pelligrini wants his team to play. I personally believe he wants a mobile front line and for all his good points that is not micro.


You may be right of course but what Pellegrini has that we don't is options. He has pace on the wings, he has players who can find that killer pass and a defensive system that does not usually require the No.9 to defend corners. He may want another option by way of a target man, he has lost Carrol as well, and Mitro, on fire, is easily the best option at the moment for relatively little money and is right on the doorstep.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 05, 2019, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?

You seem to have forgotten that TK was part of the team who put a side together that got us promoted still I'd expect nothing else from you as your always wearing blinkers when it comes to Anything good the Khans do for the club.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 05, 2019, 10:05:09 AM
Does anyone know if TK is in the office today or should we expect no signings again?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on July 05, 2019, 10:06:30 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 05, 2019, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?

You seem to have forgotten that TK was part of the team who put a side together that got us promoted still I'd expect nothing else from you as your always wearing blinkers when it comes to Anything good the Khans do for the club.

Careful with that line; 2 relegations, 1 promotion. Now that leaves a net negative by my simple arithmetic.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 05, 2019, 10:31:27 AM
Quote from: Twig on July 05, 2019, 10:06:30 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 05, 2019, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?

You seem to have forgotten that TK was part of the team who put a side together that got us promoted still I'd expect nothing else from you as your always wearing blinkers when it comes to Anything good the Khans do for the club.

Careful with that line; 2 relegations, 1 promotion. Now that leaves a net negative by my simple arithmetic.
I didn't think TK was involved till after we were relegated
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 05, 2019, 10:44:15 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 05, 2019, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?

You seem to have forgotten that TK was part of the team who put a side together that got us promoted still I'd expect nothing else from you as your always wearing blinkers when it comes to Anything good the Khans do for the club.

A large part of the promotion team + the manager was signed pre-TK.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 05, 2019, 10:53:35 AM
If the DoF was a woman one would expect her to multi task. My wife can cough, fart & wee herself whilst cooking.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: toshes mate on July 05, 2019, 10:57:32 AM
The apparent dichotomy of TK's multifarious roles, like his multiple signings last winter, may be an interesting topic for discussion. 

In such discussions it may raise the equally interesting concept of fulfilling, however unintentionally on his part, a situation almost willed upon him by many of his detractors and critics to stay out of, or, at the very least, delegate as much of the recruitment tasks to those better suited to obtaining longer term VFM for FFC.  His data model remains intact and accessible in MP and is updated regardless of where his 'blip' may suggest he is a physical presence.  His head scout and assistant scouts remain able to converse with the coaches or anybody else they feel may be worthy of talking to.  The English networks remain open for business, chats or serious negotiation as they always are at this time.  The players are under contract to be where they are required to be, at this moment in time.

The 'whirlwind' is somewhere else.   Could that be the best thing that could happen to FFC this summer when compared to last summer when he apparently fooled a lot of people into believing something special was going on?       
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Luka on July 05, 2019, 11:00:10 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?

Sir Clive Woodward joined Southampton without any experience in football.
Performance Director and DOF...........only lasted about year  !!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 05, 2019, 11:24:31 AM
So far no first team players have left, is this because TK is in the USA and as soon as hes back they are all going to leave?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 05, 2019, 11:53:49 AM
Quote from: Nero on July 05, 2019, 11:24:31 AM
So far no first team players have left, is this because TK is in the USA and as soon as hes back they are all going to leave?

Most likely.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 05, 2019, 11:53:49 AM
Quote from: Nero on July 05, 2019, 11:24:31 AM
So far no first team players have left, is this because TK is in the USA and as soon as hes back they are all going to leave?

Most likely.

Well keep him there then!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 05, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
Please can these posts about TK be moved to another thread so we can re-focus on Summer Transfer Gossip.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 05, 2019, 12:25:18 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 05, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
Please can these posts about TK be moved to another thread so we can re-focus on Summer Transfer Gossip.

Why? Nothing happens until he comes back anyway so rumours will just be made up from ITK twitter accounts!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 05, 2019, 12:29:32 PM
Heres a bit of gossip  - Pontus Janson has cancelled his lease on his house in Leeds !!!! dont think he would do that if he was moving to Sheffield
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 05, 2019, 12:30:13 PM
All these anti TK posts are one of the reasons I only look once in a while. None of us knows what goes on at the Club, so why keep making unsubstantiated comments.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:32:45 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 05, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
Please can these posts about TK be moved to another thread so we can re-focus on Summer Transfer Gossip.

There's a separate thread for rumours only
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=71152.0
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tooting legend on July 05, 2019, 12:58:44 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.

We want him on loan from Chelsea Not Sheffield Weds.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.

He's actually a Chelsea player who was on loan at Sheffield Wednesday last season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 05, 2019, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 05, 2019, 12:30:13 PM
All these anti TK posts are one of the reasons I only look once in a while. None of us knows what goes on at the Club, so why keep making unsubstantiated comments.

:54:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 05, 2019, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:32:45 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 05, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
Please can these posts about TK be moved to another thread so we can re-focus on Summer Transfer Gossip.

There's a separate thread for rumours only
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=71152.0

That is a locked thread so ordinary members cannot posts rumours and others cannot respond.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.

He's actually a Chelsea player who was on loan at Sheffield Wednesday last season.


Tom Barclay is the source:

'Understand Fulham are keen on both Ezri Konsa and Michael Hector #ffc'


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 01:07:52 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.

He's actually a Chelsea player who was on loan at Sheffield Wednesday last season.


Tom Barclay is the source:

'Understand Fulham are keen on both Ezri Konsa and Michael Hector #ffc'


I fully expect us to loan the requisite 5 players from the Premier League this summer.

I also doubt we'll spend a penny unless we sell anyone for big bucks.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on July 05, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 05, 2019, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 05, 2019, 12:30:13 PM
All these anti TK posts are one of the reasons I only look once in a while. None of us knows what goes on at the Club, so why keep making unsubstantiated comments.

:54:

I guess we could start a thread for TK sycophants?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on July 05, 2019, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 01:07:52 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.

He's actually a Chelsea player who was on loan at Sheffield Wednesday last season.


Tom Barclay is the source:

'Understand Fulham are keen on both Ezri Konsa and Michael Hector #ffc'


I fully expect us to loan the requisite 5 players from the Premier League this summer.

I also doubt we'll spend a penny unless we sell anyone for big bucks.

Just curious, can I ask why you doubt we we will spend anything unless we sell?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 05, 2019, 01:34:32 PM
The Examiner Live a local paper for the Huddersfield and West Yorkshire area are reporting that Ivan Cavaleiro has cleared his house in England of all his possessions sending most back to Portugal amid interest from us and Huddersfield in signing him.
Maybe it is a sign Cavaleiro will be moving to a new club soon hopefully us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 05, 2019, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 05, 2019, 01:34:32 PM
The Examiner Live a local paper for the Huddersfield and West Yorkshire area are reporting that Ivan Cavaleiro has cleared his house in England of all his possessions sending most back to Portugal amid interest from us and Huddersfield in signing him.
Maybe it is a sign Cavaleiro will be moving to a new club soon hopefully us.

Wouldn't it be a bit daft to then be sending most of his belongings to Portugal?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 03:44:51 PM
Tony Kahn is takling to Neves the 'super agent'. I guess he should learn from Leeds who is doing more then takling?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM

ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?

Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.

The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 05, 2019, 04:37:37 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 03:44:51 PM
Tony Kahn is takling to Neves the 'super agent'. I guess he should learn from Leeds who is doing more then takling?
Do you mean Mendes the super agent? Neves is a player who he represents and is currently at Wolves
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 05, 2019, 04:37:37 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 03:44:51 PM
Tony Kahn is takling to Neves the 'super agent'. I guess he should learn from Leeds who is doing more then takling?
Do you mean Mendes the super agent? Neves is a player who he represents and is currently at Wolves

Sure, my mistake 🙈
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 05, 2019, 05:36:36 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 05, 2019, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 05, 2019, 01:34:32 PM
The Examiner Live a local paper for the Huddersfield and West Yorkshire area are reporting that Ivan Cavaleiro has cleared his house in England of all his possessions sending most back to Portugal amid interest from us and Huddersfield in signing him.
Maybe it is a sign Cavaleiro will be moving to a new club soon hopefully us.

Wouldn't it be a bit daft to then be sending most of his belongings to Portugal?
Ah good point but maybe not so daft if say someone like Fulham as part of the transfer deal offered to put him up in a fully furnished luxury home so he didn't need his stuff.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 05:38:18 PM
Quote from: Twig on July 05, 2019, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 01:07:52 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.

He's actually a Chelsea player who was on loan at Sheffield Wednesday last season.


Tom Barclay is the source:

'Understand Fulham are keen on both Ezri Konsa and Michael Hector #ffc'


I fully expect us to loan the requisite 5 players from the Premier League this summer.

I also doubt we'll spend a penny unless we sell anyone for big bucks.

Just curious, can I ask why you doubt we we will spend anything unless we sell?

No deep insight, other than apart from last summer our net spend is seldom more than our net income - sales of the likes of Roberts and McCormack have preceded our purchases.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: F(f)CUK on July 05, 2019, 05:41:16 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 05, 2019, 05:36:36 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 05, 2019, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 05, 2019, 01:34:32 PM
The Examiner Live a local paper for the Huddersfield and West Yorkshire area are reporting that Ivan Cavaleiro has cleared his house in England of all his possessions sending most back to Portugal amid interest from us and Huddersfield in signing him.
Maybe it is a sign Cavaleiro will be moving to a new club soon hopefully us.

Wouldn't it be a bit daft to then be sending most of his belongings to Portugal?
Ah good point but maybe not so daft if say someone like Fulham as part of the transfer deal offered to put him up in a fully furnished luxury home so he didn't need his stuff.

It sounds like he is escaping to Portugal as he has heard that there is interest from Fulham and Huddersfield.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 05, 2019, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM

ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?

Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.

The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested
Harvey back from his hols now..... still supposed to be Barca.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 07:36:15 PM
Quote from: David I on July 05, 2019, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM

ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?

Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.

The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested
Harvey back from his hols now..... still supposed to be Barca.


Apparently he followed every player at liverpool on Instagram.  He's either trying to wind people up or he's going there. Either way I don't really care. He's obviously not staying and he has an attitude so hopefully its done quickly
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 05, 2019, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM

ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?

Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.

The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested

If those are the clubs looking for him...and he ends up at one of them it's the smart move for the young man.  Wish him the best.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 05, 2019, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM

ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?

Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.

The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested

If those are the clubs looking for him...and he ends up at one of them it's the smart move for the young man.  Wish him the best.

Shame he lacks integrity
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: elgreenio on July 05, 2019, 10:44:50 PM
cant be many with integrity at barely 16? Either way from what i've seen of his social media i'm not sure he's quite clued up or a "good egg". Besides, it's hard to miss somebody who hasn't exactly shown anything with us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 06, 2019, 01:33:40 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 07:36:15 PM
Quote from: David I on July 05, 2019, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM

ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?

Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.

The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested
Harvey back from his hols now..... still supposed to be Barca.


Apparently he followed every player at liverpool on Instagram.  He's either trying to wind people up or he's going there. Either way I don't really care. He's obviously not staying and he has an attitude so hopefully its done quickly
He (Harvey) is a Liverpool fan. Might explain the follows on social media.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.

Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM

ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?

Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.

The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested

Jumping the gun at his age doesn't often work out. Dembele the only one who's left us for better things recently.

Just look at him, got a clear ego issue. Won't be missed if he has no intentions of staying.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.

Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.

Hector of Sheffield Wednesday and Konsa of Brentford? Right.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 06, 2019, 09:49:18 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.

Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.

Hector of Sheffield Wednesday and Konsa of Brentford? Right.

Neither of those teams were on the lower half of the table last year.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 10:50:02 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 06, 2019, 09:49:18 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.

Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.

Hector of Sheffield Wednesday and Konsa of Brentford? Right.

Neither of those teams were on the lower half of the table last year.

Stop being pedantic. They finished 11 and 12. If that's good enough for you then fine but I would hope TK has higher aspirations.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on July 06, 2019, 11:05:33 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 10:50:02 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 06, 2019, 09:49:18 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.

Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.

Hector of Sheffield Wednesday and Konsa of Brentford? Right.

Neither of those teams were on the lower half of the table last year.

Stop being pedantic. They finished 11 and 12. If that's good enough for you then fine but I would hope TK has higher aspirations.

To be fair we took TC and Kmac from bang average teams (at the time) and they became vital parts of us going up. I don't have the defensive stats of Shef W or Brentford to hand but I'd be more interested in those before looking at the final positions of the teams because as centre halves they're more directly influencing how the team defends rather than overall performance.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 06, 2019, 11:19:52 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 10:50:02 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 06, 2019, 09:49:18 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.

Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.

Hector of Sheffield Wednesday and Konsa of Brentford? Right.

Neither of those teams were on the lower half of the table last year.

Stop being pedantic. They finished 11 and 12. If that's good enough for you then fine but I would hope TK has higher aspirations.
so does that make MItro a poor player because he finshed 19th in the Premier League, and why do team want to pay Place 50m for one of their players when they finished 12th he cant be any good
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on July 06, 2019, 11:32:52 AM
The thing for me is strengthening at the back is the priority as it will enable our midfield and forward line more confidence and freedom. We have enough going forward.

But defensively we've been dreadful for 4 seasons.

RCB and RB for me pls.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rambler on July 06, 2019, 11:50:27 AM
Tick tock. 6th July and still nada. I guess at least there's no fire sale of our best players.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on July 06, 2019, 12:14:00 PM
What else did you expect. Mitro, Sess, Anguissa, etc have all been involved in summer tournaments and probably only returning to training next week at the earliest. The club are probably waiting to discuss their future to confirm who is going to free up funds on new players. I would expect some movement to start in about a weeks time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 06, 2019, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 10:50:02 AM

Stop being pedantic. They finished 11 and 12. If that's good enough for you then fine but I would hope TK has higher aspirations.

Pontus Jansson was in a Leeds side that was worse than Brentford season before last, did he become a fundamentally better player because they got third this year? Cairney came into the team from a dreadful Blackburn side.

Just looking at league tables is a terrible way to look at quality of individual players.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2019, 02:14:03 PM
Mitrovic was back at Motspur Park today as per Tom Cairney's Instagram, and there's stories going around about him signing a new contract with us today as well. Could be linked, could not be. Either way, looks like he's going to Portugal with us- so that'll be good.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2019, 02:53:19 PM
Reliable Leeds journalist reporting Jansson's expected to be confirmed gone from Leeds in the next 48 Hours after a 5.5m bid from "another English club". Could be us, could not be. Bookies favourite at the moment is Brentford which is a bit random.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 06, 2019, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2019, 02:53:19 PM
Reliable Leeds journalist reporting Jansson's expected to be confirmed gone from Leeds in the next 48 Hours after a 5.5m bid from "another English club". Could be us, could not be. Bookies favourite at the moment is Brentford which is a bit random.
Not if we are truly moving for Konsi
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 06, 2019, 03:26:21 PM
According to Phil Hay, someone that the Leeds fans swear by, relations between Jansson and Leeds have broken down on a fundamental level. They seem to just want him gone at this point.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fernhurst on July 06, 2019, 03:29:11 PM
Just look at him, got a clear ego issue. Won't be missed if he has no intentions of staying.

Agreed, thinks he's a superstar already. Well we will see how it all pans out.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 06, 2019, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2019, 02:53:19 PM
Reliable Leeds journalist reporting Jansson's expected to be confirmed gone from Leeds in the next 48 Hours after a 5.5m bid from "another English club". Could be us, could not be. Bookies favourite at the moment is Brentford which is a bit random.
Not if we are truly moving for Konsi

If we're after Jansson, great.

If Brentford get him, and it paves the way of Konsa to join us, great.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 06, 2019, 03:42:12 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 06, 2019, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2019, 02:53:19 PM
Reliable Leeds journalist reporting Jansson's expected to be confirmed gone from Leeds in the next 48 Hours after a 5.5m bid from "another English club". Could be us, could not be. Bookies favourite at the moment is Brentford which is a bit random.
Not if we are truly moving for Konsi

If we're after Jansson, great.

If Brentford get him, and it paves the way of Konsa to join us, great.

Brentford are at 1/2 to get Jansson, we are 8/1
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 06, 2019, 03:45:57 PM
A few other odds are -

Charlie Austin - 16/1
Gary Cahill - 20/1
Dwight Gayle - 4/1
Michael Hector - 2/1
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on July 07, 2019, 08:37:42 PM
Now Mitro is tied up can we please have some defenders
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 07, 2019, 09:26:45 PM
I have some bad news for the people who wanted us to get Mings, Villa seem to be signing him for £26 million.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 08, 2019, 10:10:47 AM
Wetspam accept bid from Chinese club for Arnautovic, at least we haven't got to read about Mitrovic going there now for weeks on end
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 08, 2019, 10:35:01 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 07, 2019, 09:26:45 PM
I have some bad news for the people who wanted us to get Mings, Villa seem to be signing him for £26 million.

£26m for a player who never made it in the PL for Bournemouth....

Glad we didn't want him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 08, 2019, 10:37:38 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 08, 2019, 10:35:01 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 07, 2019, 09:26:45 PM
I have some bad news for the people who wanted us to get Mings, Villa seem to be signing him for £26 million.

£26m for a player who never made it in the PL for Bournemouth....

Glad we didn't want him.

I feel there's better around for that sum to be honest.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FulhamStu on July 08, 2019, 11:13:30 AM
If Mings arses around like he did in the championship next season he will be made to look very silly.  Plays like he thinks he is a lot better than he really is.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bracken White on July 08, 2019, 12:23:32 PM
So many players overpriced - Mings, what £20M - although a good player, really not worth it. Hector & Konsa seem good prospects but I still feel we need a nippy 2nd striker to compliment Mitro & regret that Kamara doesn't fit the bill IMHO.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on July 08, 2019, 01:00:43 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2019, 02:14:03 PM
Mitrovic was back at Motspur Park today as per Tom Cairney's Instagram, and there's stories going around about him signing a new contract with us today as well. Could be linked, could not be. Either way, looks like he's going to Portugal with us- so that'll be good.

Rumour was right then
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 08, 2019, 04:32:37 PM
Forest just signed 2 from Benfica.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 08, 2019, 05:07:17 PM
Tielemans has just been confirmed by Leicester. Would hope/expect Seri to sign for Monaco at some point in the next week or so, and that will then give us some room to manoeuvre.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 08, 2019, 05:11:15 PM
I am not sure if I am losing my sense of humour so I don't know if it is a wind up but on another forum there is a posting that we are in for Nimes winger Martin Guyere.
Yes I do know who Marvin Gaye is and perhaps this was heard on the grapevine. Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 08, 2019, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 08, 2019, 05:07:17 PM
Tielemans has just been confirmed by Leicester. Would hope/expect Seri to sign for Monaco at some point in the next week or so, and that will then give us some room to manoeuvre.

We should only let him go if we get good money. He'll be a beast at this level.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rusty shackleford on July 08, 2019, 05:35:26 PM
Seri will go on loan that is a certainty
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: RaySmith on July 08, 2019, 05:48:14 PM
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 08, 2019, 05:11:15 PM
I am not sure if I am losing my sense of humour so I don't know if it is a wind up but on another forum there is a posting that we are in for Nimes winger Martin Guyere.
Yes I do know who Marvin Gaye is and perhaps this was heard on the grapevine. Does anyone know?

https://youtu.be/0AN8bS3bvlM
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 05:57:49 PM
I see on sky transfer thingy that Spurs ste being patient where Sess is concerned. So that means they will wait until January to make an offer!!!!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 08, 2019, 06:35:23 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 05:57:49 PM
I see on sky transfer thingy that Spurs ste being patient where Sess is concerned. So that means they will wait until January to make an offer!!!!!!


If Spurs are going to play cat and mouse then other clubs should step in during this window and we should reach an agreement with one of them. We need this Sess. matter sorted so that Parker can recruit replacements and build his new team before the season starts.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: filham on July 08, 2019, 06:35:23 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 05:57:49 PM
I see on sky transfer thingy that Spurs ste being patient where Sess is concerned. So that means they will wait until January to make an offer!!!!!!


If Spurs are going to play cat and mouse then other clubs should step in during this window and we should reach an agreement with one of them. We need this Sess. matter sorted so that Parker can recruit replacements and build his new team before the season starts.


I think Levy is clever amd there is a good pay off to Sess's Agent if the deal can be stalled as long as possible.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 08, 2019, 06:41:08 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 08, 2019, 12:23:32 PM
So many players overpriced - Mings, what £20M - although a good player, really not worth it. Hector & Konsa seem good prospects but I still feel we need a nippy 2nd striker to compliment Mitro & regret that Kamara doesn't fit the bill IMHO.

We already have one in Rui Fonte  :54:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
I have said before I think Arsenal have a policy of selling players with 2 years left on contracts if they wont sign. Not a bad idea tbf.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 08, 2019, 06:41:08 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 08, 2019, 12:23:32 PM
So many players overpriced - Mings, what £20M - although a good player, really not worth it. Hector & Konsa seem good prospects but I still feel we need a nippy 2nd striker to compliment Mitro & regret that Kamara doesn't fit the bill IMHO.

We already have one in Rui Fonte  :54:


Would be great if he suddenly became capabable of Championship football, would be like a free signing. Cant see it tho.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 08, 2019, 06:50:10 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 08, 2019, 06:41:08 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 08, 2019, 12:23:32 PM
So many players overpriced - Mings, what £20M - although a good player, really not worth it. Hector & Konsa seem good prospects but I still feel we need a nippy 2nd striker to compliment Mitro & regret that Kamara doesn't fit the bill IMHO.

We already have one in Rui Fonte  :54:


Would be great if he suddenly became capabable of Championship football, would be like a free signing. Cant see it tho.

Remember the game at Ipswich when he scored the second in the 0-2,he looked pretty good,but we did play them off park that day should have been 0-6.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 08, 2019, 06:53:56 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
I have said before I think Arsenal have a policy of selling players with 2 years left on contracts if they wont sign. Not a bad idea tbf.

Aaron Ramsey and Alexi Sanchez say you're incorrect.   The Gunners WISH it was their policy to not let contracts run down.   But again...players make more salary when their contracts run all the way down.   

And if the 2 year minimum thing is in a contract before the player signs the contract, what player wants to sign that contract...unless the sign on bonus is crazy?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:56:48 PM
 Yea was at the Ipswich game, he's not a bad player, has nice feet but just couldnt cope with the Champ. He certainly tries 100% given him that tbf.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:59:19 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 08, 2019, 06:53:56 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
I have said before I think Arsenal have a policy of selling players with 2 years left on contracts if they wont sign. Not a bad idea tbf.

Aaron Ramsey and Alexi Sanchez say you're incorrect.   The Gunners WISH it was their policy to not let contracts run down.   But again...players make more salary when their contracts run all the way down.   

And if the 2 year minimum thing is in a contract before the player signs the contract, what player wants to sign that contract...unless the sign on bonus is crazy?


Fair play, cant remember where I heard that.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 08, 2019, 07:02:33 PM
Quote from: filham on July 08, 2019, 06:35:23 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 05:57:49 PM
I see on sky transfer thingy that Spurs ste being patient where Sess is concerned. So that means they will wait until January to make an offer!!!!!!


If Spurs are going to play cat and mouse then other clubs should step in during this window and we should reach an agreement with one of them. We need this Sess. matter sorted so that Parker can recruit replacements and build his new team before the season starts.
If paper talk is correct and Sess is determined to sign for Pochetino and Spurs, then it doesn't matter who comes in he just doesn't need to agree terms and then when Spurs come in they still low bal the offer

Like I say that's if paper talk is correct.

I would hope Sess wouldn't do that to us, but if the club wish to sell rather than get nothing in a years time then i can understand that, but then he could help our promotion charge and then maybe the loss of transfer fee wouldn't be so hard to take, although business people usually want both parts of the pie
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 08, 2019, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 08, 2019, 06:53:56 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
I have said before I think Arsenal have a policy of selling players with 2 years left on contracts if they wont sign. Not a bad idea tbf.

Aaron Ramsey and Alexi Sanchez say you're incorrect.   The Gunners WISH it was their policy to not let contracts run down.   But again...players make more salary when their contracts run all the way down.   

And if the 2 year minimum thing is in a contract before the player signs the contract, what player wants to sign that contract...unless the sign on bonus is crazy?
It is a new policy bought in this summer by Arsenal, Sky Sports we're discussing it yesterday morning i think. Players like Auba will not be allowed to enter the last year they will look to sell beforehand, it wouldn't be written into the players contract as it will be an arsenal transfer policy, will be interesting to see if this policy works
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 08, 2019, 07:10:58 PM
Fonte's not physical enough or "mean" enough to play up-front on his own in the Championship. Said it in another thread, I'd be genuinely interested in trying him as a #10 in some of the Pre-Season games and then as back-up to Cairney for next season. Or try him next to Mitrovic and play two up-front.

Think Fonte's worth keeping around. He's a good player to have in the dressing room and he adds to our HG quota.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 08, 2019, 07:13:18 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
I have said before I think Arsenal have a policy of selling players with 2 years left on contracts if they wont sign. Not a bad idea tbf.

Flip side of that is every fan going would've wanted Tony Khan's head if he sold Sessegnon last summer after being our top scorer in a promotion season. Because this has been going on for a year now, I refuse to believe we'd have offered new deals to everyone key to our promotion (Ream, McDonald, Cairney etc.) and not offered one to Sessegnon- so he or his agent (or both) clearly wanted to be in this position of him having a year left on his deal this summer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 08, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
A couple of sources saying Matt O'Riley will remain with us for at least this coming season as he is keen to work with Scotty Parker
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 08, 2019, 09:59:48 PM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

They are pretty shrewd in the transfer market, odd that nobody else were seemingly in for him.

This does bring them up to 4 CB's, so they may be selling one of their other ones to finance their two new ones.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 08, 2019, 10:04:13 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 08, 2019, 09:59:48 PM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

They are pretty shrewd in the transfer market, odd that nobody else were seemingly in for him.

This does bring them up to 4 CB's, so they may be selling one of their other ones to finance their two new ones.

Ezri Konsa to us?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 08, 2019, 10:06:33 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 08, 2019, 10:04:13 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 08, 2019, 09:59:48 PM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

They are pretty shrewd in the transfer market, odd that nobody else were seemingly in for him.

This does bring them up to 4 CB's, so they may be selling one of their other ones to finance their two new ones.

Ezri Konsa to us?

Or to someone else.

Then again, they may be trying to have a proper go at promotion this season. But they usually sell to buy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on July 09, 2019, 07:39:40 AM
Levi's an astute, callous chairman. He likes to punish the team he buys from as well as screw down the money paid. He always has.

I expect us to get royally shafted on the last day of transfers in the Sess deal.

Can't stand the man and will actually lmfao when he comes to a bad end. What goes around comes around.

Coyw!

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 09, 2019, 09:45:25 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 09, 2019, 07:39:40 AM
Levi's an astute, callous chairman. He likes to punish the team he buys from as well as screw down the money paid. He always has.

I expect us to get royally shafted on the last day of transfers in the Sess deal.

Can't stand the man and will actually lmfao when he comes to a bad end. What goes around comes around.

Coyw!



Ditto. Though if he worked for Fulham I'm sure we'd have a very different view.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 09, 2019, 09:48:44 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 09, 2019, 09:45:25 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 09, 2019, 07:39:40 AM
Levi's an astute, callous chairman. He likes to punish the team he buys from as well as screw down the money paid. He always has.

I expect us to get royally shafted on the last day of transfers in the Sess deal.

Can't stand the man and will actually lmfao when he comes to a bad end. What goes around comes around.

Coyw!

Ditto. Though if he worked for Fulham I'm sure we'd have a very different view.

If only Tottenham bid on Ryan Sessegnon, then we won't get much. You need two bidders for an Auction, preferably two bidders plus David Levy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ScalleysDad on July 09, 2019, 10:03:47 AM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 08, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
A couple of sources saying Matt O'Riley will remain with us for at least this coming season as he is keen to work with Scotty Parker


I'd be interested to know if working with SP had any influence on Mitrovic signing. I have not seen it written anywhere but as was covered a while ago there did seem to be a good rapport between them especially during the long downward spiral of the Ranieri term.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riverside on July 09, 2019, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on July 09, 2019, 10:03:47 AM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 08, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
A couple of sources saying Matt O'Riley will remain with us for at least this coming season as he is keen to work with Scotty Parker


I'd be interested to know if working with SP had any influence on Mitrovic signing. I have not seen it written anywhere but as was covered a while ago there did seem to be a good rapport between them especially during the long downward spiral of the Ranieri term.

Mitro said in his interview working with SP was a factor
And also TK !


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 10:56:33 AM
Could Brentford be our main rivals for promotion?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ScalleysDad on July 09, 2019, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: Riverside on July 09, 2019, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on July 09, 2019, 10:03:47 AM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 08, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
A couple of sources saying Matt O'Riley will remain with us for at least this coming season as he is keen to work with Scotty Parker


I'd be interested to know if working with SP had any influence on Mitrovic signing. I have not seen it written anywhere but as was covered a while ago there did seem to be a good rapport between them especially during the long downward spiral of the Ranieri term.

Mitro said in his interview working with SP was a factor
And also TK !


Ok thanks. Bodes well for on the pitch and perhaps some respite for the back office.


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 09, 2019, 11:03:28 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 10:56:33 AM
Could Brentford be our main rivals for promotion?

if they keep that backline, you have to feel they'll be in and around at least playoffs.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
Good player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannon
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on July 09, 2019, 11:18:09 AM
There is always at least one team that no-one really expects to do well every season.

Last season Norwich, Season before Cardiff, Before that Reading or Huddersfield, Before that Brighton.

Interesting who it will be this season, do we have any young centre backs that may break through from the U23's?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
Good player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannon

They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 09, 2019, 11:26:02 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
Good player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannon

They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha

A lot of the responses on social media i've seen is that unless they replace well, selling him for 5.5m is ridiculous and they won't find an adequate replacement at that price. Maybe I've just seen the more pessimist fans though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 09, 2019, 11:31:35 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 09, 2019, 11:26:02 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
Good player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannon

They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha

A lot of the responses on social media i've seen is that unless they replace well, selling him for 5.5m is ridiculous and they won't find an adequate replacement at that price. Maybe I've just seen the more pessimist fans though.
~
Fee is 4 million with 1.5 in add ons (one of which is promotion during the contract period)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 09, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 09, 2019, 11:31:35 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 09, 2019, 11:26:02 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
Good player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannon

They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha

A lot of the responses on social media i've seen is that unless they replace well, selling him for 5.5m is ridiculous and they won't find an adequate replacement at that price. Maybe I've just seen the more pessimist fans though.
~
Fee is 4 million with 1.5 in add ons (one of which is promotion during the contract period)

So even harder then....Maybe the fans are right. They seemed unhappy with how much they sold Clarke for too. Again, maybe I'm just seeing the loud minority of pessimistic fans.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 11:46:57 AM
Just so I've got this clear..

Pontus Jansson
- 20 caps for Sweden
- 7.27 whoscored rating last season
£5.5m

Tomas Kalas
- 19 caps for Czech Republic
- 7.06 whoscored rating for last season
£8m

Tyrone Mings
- 0 caps
- 6.98 whoscored rating for last season
£26m


:54:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 09, 2019, 12:07:45 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 11:46:57 AM
Just so I've got this clear..

Pontus Jansson
- 20 caps for Sweden
- 7.27 whoscored rating last season
£5.5m

Tomas Kalas
- 19 caps for Czech Republic
- 7.06 whoscored rating for last season
£8m

Tyrone Mings
- 0 caps
- 6.98 whoscored rating for last season
£26m


:54:

To be fair to Mings, only one of those players won promotion and will be playing in the Premiership next season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 09, 2019, 12:19:56 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
Good player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannon

They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha
Perhaps the reason that the club decided to sell him was the fact he is actually a loose cannon and a disruption in the squad
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 12:29:19 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 12:19:56 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).

That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
Good player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannon

They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha
Perhaps the reason that the club decided to sell him was the fact he is actually a loose cannon and a disruption in the squad

That's not the point of the post. The point was, is that it's funny how the Leeds fans said they were way too big a club to lose him and he would never go, but now the fans never liked him anyway. Quick swing in 3 days
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 09, 2019, 12:34:00 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 12:29:19 PM

That's not the point of the post. The point was, is that it's funny how the Leeds fans said they were way too big a club to lose him and he would never go, but now the fans never liked him anyway. Quick swing in 3 days

That happens with most players and most fans in such situations. Right now for example, Elliott is a little brat that many can hardly wait to see out the door. In the seemingly unlikely event that he would sign a new contract with Fulham, I am fairly certain that many (not all) posters would do a 180 in the blink of an eye.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 02:19:20 PM
What is this, the Leeds United Fan Club? I do get your point but it's fun to poke fun at other fans. Especially Leeds fans.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 09, 2019, 02:28:21 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 02:19:20 PM
What is this, the Leeds United Fan Club? I do get your point but it's fun to poke fun at other fans. Especially Leeds fans.

You are of course welcome to poke as much fun as you want to about anything.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 09, 2019, 02:29:36 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 09, 2019, 02:28:21 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 02:19:20 PM
What is this, the Leeds United Fan Club? I do get your point but it's fun to poke fun at other fans. Especially Leeds fans.

You are of course welcome to poke as much fun as you want to about anything.

Covers blown!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 09, 2019, 02:29:41 PM
On a free we should be all over this...


ADOMAH'S FOREST MEDICAL

Albert Adomah is currently undergoing a medical in London with Nottingham Forest.

The forward has agreed terms with the Championship club and is on course to sign this evening.

However, there is still time for him to go elsewhere - there are still other clubs interested in the 31-year-old, including West Brom.

Adomah is available on a Bosman free agent after being released by Aston Villa.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 09, 2019, 03:26:31 PM
Just seen Jay Rodriguez to Burnley. Assuming there's no way they can keep Rondon, could be a difficult season for them!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 09, 2019, 03:27:30 PM
Also, interesting quote from Jansson '"Leeds needed to sell to balance the books because of FFP and they saw that they could make some money out of me,"'
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2019, 03:41:04 PM
Massive gamble 33/1 down to 2/1 fav,Steve Bruce for the Geordie job.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 09, 2019, 03:41:57 PM
Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 09, 2019, 02:29:41 PM
On a free we should be all over this...


ADOMAH'S FOREST MEDICAL

Albert Adomah is currently undergoing a medical in London with Nottingham Forest.

The forward has agreed terms with the Championship club and is on course to sign this evening.

However, there is still time for him to go elsewhere - there are still other clubs interested in the 31-year-old, including West Brom.

Adomah is available on a Bosman free agent after being released by Aston Villa.



He'd be a perfect signing for us on a free, London lad too.

Alas, he's way too old for our stats model.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on July 09, 2019, 04:22:03 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 09, 2019, 03:41:57 PM
Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 09, 2019, 02:29:41 PM
On a free we should be all over this...


ADOMAH'S FOREST MEDICAL

Albert Adomah is currently undergoing a medical in London with Nottingham Forest.

The forward has agreed terms with the Championship club and is on course to sign this evening.

However, there is still time for him to go elsewhere - there are still other clubs interested in the 31-year-old, including West Brom.

Adomah is available on a Bosman free agent after being released by Aston Villa.



He'd be a perfect signing for us on a free, London lad too.

Alas, he's way too old for our stats model.
that's actually the one part of the stats model that I agree with. The old al fated model of oldies freebies and loans, nearly sent us to the third division last time we got relegated. All our best left for pretty much peanuts. If any player leaves now, they will go for big money which can be re invested into the squad. Yes you might miss out on the odd temporary gem, but this surely has to be a better long term strategy, that also worked well for Wenger and arsenal
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 09, 2019, 04:28:26 PM
The only first teamer's not in Portugal...

Sess- injury (Spurs also just gave Ben Davies a 5 year deal...and Danny Rose is still there)

Seri - international

Ream - international (he did really well)

Anguissa -  international


If all 4 stay this is a pretty packed squad.    Still need a right winger.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 09, 2019, 04:41:28 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 09, 2019, 04:28:26 PM
The only first teamer's not in Portugal...

Sess- injury (Spurs also just gave Ben Davies a 5 year deal...and Danny Rose is still there)

Seri - international

Ream - international (he did really well)

Anguissa -  international


If all 4 stay this is a pretty packed squad.    Still need a right winger.
.

I think Ayite is really underrated here, he was the one who allowed Fred to bomb forward, by covering overlapping and generally working as a pair. Something that was blatantly missing last season when the RB was constantly exposed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 09, 2019, 05:18:38 PM
Only problem with Ayite is how injury prone he is in my opinion.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2019, 05:44:47 PM
Seri to Galatasary?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: General on July 09, 2019, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 09, 2019, 04:41:28 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 09, 2019, 04:28:26 PM
The only first teamer's not in Portugal...

Sess- injury (Spurs also just gave Ben Davies a 5 year deal...and Danny Rose is still there)

Seri - international

Ream - international (he did really well)

Anguissa -  international


If all 4 stay this is a pretty packed squad.    Still need a right winger.
.

I think Ayite is really underrated here, he was the one who allowed Fred to bomb forward, by covering overlapping and generally working as a pair. Something that was blatantly missing last season when the RB was constantly exposed.

There have been photos or a video with Anguissa in already this preseason.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 10, 2019, 01:56:16 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2019, 05:44:47 PM
Seri to Galatasary?
I read that as Glastonbury 🙄
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on July 10, 2019, 06:28:36 AM
Quote from: David I on July 10, 2019, 01:56:16 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2019, 05:44:47 PM
Seri to Galatasary?
I read that as Glastonbury 🙄
they wouldn't sign him on last year's form.
On Ayite he's a great player a real 100% player,shame he loses a lot of each season injured.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 10, 2019, 07:28:21 AM
Derby County have been linked with the signature of Wolves winger Ivan Cavaleiro...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 10, 2019, 10:52:56 AM
Too late, really thought he could do a job for us.

BREAKING NEWS

Nottingham Forest have signed winger Albert Adomah on a two-year deal.

Adomah, 31, was released by Aston Villa at the end of last season following their promotion to the Premier League.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 10, 2019, 10:52:56 AM
Too late, really thought he could do a job for us.

BREAKING NEWS

Nottingham Forest have signed winger Albert Adomah on a two-year deal.

Adomah, 31, was released by Aston Villa at the end of last season following their promotion to the Premier League.

We wouldn't offer a 2 year deal either so good luck to him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 10, 2019, 02:51:28 PM
There's a picture on Twitter of a guy with Jovane Cabral of Sporting at Westfield. The caption reads:

Just met Jovane Cabral in Westfields shopping centre. Said he can't wait to get started for Fulham and loves the ambitions of the club #FFC #COYW
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 10, 2019, 03:03:55 PM
Hopefully we will, but i cant remember if we have signed a player in the last 5 years while we have been away on training camp. Hopefully someone can say that's wrong.

I am hoping we can get one or two over the line in the next few days
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 10, 2019, 03:19:20 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 10, 2019, 02:51:28 PM
There's a picture on Twitter of a guy with Jovane Cabral of Sporting at Westfield. The caption reads:

Just met Jovane Cabral in Westfields shopping centre. Said he can't wait to get started for Fulham and loves the ambitions of the club #FFC #COYW

Seen that but seems very suspect
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2019, 03:19:43 PM
Liam Rosenior gone to Derby as a senior coach.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: RP24 on July 10, 2019, 03:21:32 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 10, 2019, 02:51:28 PM
There's a picture on Twitter of a guy with Jovane Cabral of Sporting at Westfield. The caption reads:

Just met Jovane Cabral in Westfields shopping centre. Said he can't wait to get started for Fulham and loves the ambitions of the club #FFC #COYW

Yeah I saw this but also that the guy blocked his face out with a smiley face so not too sure if we can trust it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on July 10, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
#AstonVilla closing in on Ezri Konsa. Talks progressing over deal for his £12m #Brentfordfc release clause. #Bees #avfc skysports.com/transfer-centre
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 10, 2019, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on July 10, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
#AstonVilla closing in on Ezri Konsa. Talks progressing over deal for his £12m #Brentfordfc release clause. #Bees #avfc skysports.com/transfer-centre

Wow they will have spent almost £60m. I really hope they crash Like we did and come back down. Never liked Villa
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2019, 04:04:28 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 10, 2019, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on July 10, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
#AstonVilla closing in on Ezri Konsa. Talks progressing over deal for his £12m #Brentfordfc release clause. #Bees #avfc skysports.com/transfer-centre

Wow they will have spent almost £60m. I really hope they crash Like we did and come back down. Never liked Villa

Don't think they will,in fact they could be the
shock side this season and finish top 8,do what Wolves did.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 04:08:39 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2019, 04:04:28 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 10, 2019, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on July 10, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
#AstonVilla closing in on Ezri Konsa. Talks progressing over deal for his £12m #Brentfordfc release clause. #Bees #avfc skysports.com/transfer-centre

Wow they will have spent almost £60m. I really hope they crash Like we did and come back down. Never liked Villa

Don't think they will,in fact they could be the
shock side this season and finish top 8,do what Wolves did.

We'll see but I think they are miles away from what Wolves are/were.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 10, 2019, 04:10:44 PM
With Harvey Elliott signing for Liverpool would love us to make a move for Ryan Kent, only 22 , rated at £10 million by Liverpool and is going to be a top drawer player,
Plays out wide, explosive pace, and loves to run at full backs, was outstanding for Rangers last season and would be a real coup if we could get him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2019, 04:19:19 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 10, 2019, 04:10:44 PM
With Harvey Elliott signing for Liverpool would love us to make a move for Ryan Kent, only 22 , rated at £10 million by Liverpool and is going to be a top drawer player,
Plays out wide, explosive pace, and loves to run at full backs, was outstanding for Rangers last season and would be a real coup if we could get him.

Think he's Wednesday bound.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 10, 2019, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on July 10, 2019, 03:21:32 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 10, 2019, 02:51:28 PM
There's a picture on Twitter of a guy with Jovane Cabral of Sporting at Westfield. The caption reads:

Just met Jovane Cabral in Westfields shopping centre. Said he can't wait to get started for Fulham and loves the ambitions of the club #FFC #COYW

Yeah I saw this but also that the guy blocked his face out with a smiley face so not too sure if we can trust it.

That would be Fulhamish, Fulham go to training camp in Portugal send buy player from Portugal fly him over to England to fly him back to Portugal
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 10, 2019, 04:53:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2019, 04:19:19 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 10, 2019, 04:10:44 PM
With Harvey Elliott signing for Liverpool would love us to make a move for Ryan Kent, only 22 , rated at £10 million by Liverpool and is going to be a top drawer player,
Plays out wide, explosive pace, and loves to run at full backs, was outstanding for Rangers last season and would be a real coup if we could get him.

Think he's Wednesday bound.

Who are rumoured to lose Bruce, potentially ruining any transfer plans. We will see...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 10, 2019, 05:12:05 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....

Could be epic. Maybe have to extend the contract of MLM to calm people down.  :005:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 10, 2019, 05:12:59 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....

I never expected us to sign either. They're just not the sort of players we sign these days. As a general rule, if you've heard of them, they ain't coming to Fulham. Whilst Jansson goes to Brentford, TK will be busy arranging to pay twice as much for Anony Mous-Baastard, a 5'2" keeper in the Latvian second division.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 10, 2019, 05:12:05 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....

Could be epic. Maybe have to extend the contract of MLM to calm people down.  :005:

:doh:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 05:21:30 PM
Never expected to sign Konsa for the price point he was at (especially when in the Sky report of our interest it said we were trying for him on loan initially). Can't see us spending big amounts on a Centre-Back. Whether it's 3-4m on a permanent signing like a Michael Hector, or just a loan fee.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 10, 2019, 05:29:26 PM
Actually thinking through all TK's transfers, I'm not sure we've ever signed anyone who's an important first team player for another club in the same division as us, have we?

Which would rule out Jansson and Konsa
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: colinwhite on July 10, 2019, 05:34:15 PM
K mac ,Ross macormack ,Tc
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 10, 2019, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 10, 2019, 05:34:15 PM
K mac ,Ross macormack ,Tc

Ross McCormack and TC certainly pre-date TK

Mcdonald is debateable. He was signed after TK came in but we'd been in for him the summer before when Rigg was DoF
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2019, 07:24:49 PM
Brentford just signed midfielder from Celta Vigo,Hull got 2 in,Blackburn and Forest.
Coyw let's go,let's be hearing a rumour at least.😠
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 10, 2019, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 10, 2019, 05:12:59 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....

I never expected us to sign either. They're just not the sort of players we sign these days. As a general rule, if you've heard of them, they ain't coming to Fulham. Whilst Jansson goes to Brentford, TK will be busy arranging to pay twice as much for Anony Mous-Baastard, a 5'2" keeper in the Latvian second division.

Back to normal regards your feelings about TK then  :doh:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 10, 2019, 07:51:17 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 10, 2019, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 10, 2019, 05:12:59 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....

I never expected us to sign either. They're just not the sort of players we sign these days. As a general rule, if you've heard of them, they ain't coming to Fulham. Whilst Jansson goes to Brentford, TK will be busy arranging to pay twice as much for Anony Mous-Baastard, a 5'2" keeper in the Latvian second division.

Back to normal regards your feelings about TK then  :doh:

And a normal contribution to the debate from you
Care to say whether you agree/disagree with my post?
Care to offer some facts or reasoning in support?
No, there's about as much chance of you making a meaningful, intelligent contribution to a debate as there is of TK signing Assombalonga
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 10, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
Assomballonga is not required
Why is it that every player some other team sign is a missed opportunity for the Whites?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: colinwhite on July 10, 2019, 08:23:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 10, 2019, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 10, 2019, 05:34:15 PM
K mac ,Ross macormack ,Tc

Ross McCormack and TC certainly pre-date TK

sorry misunderstood ,didnt realise you meant undet TK

Mcdonald is debateable. He was signed after TK came in but we'd been in for him the summer before when Rigg was DoF
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 10, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
Spending a ton of money didn't lead to success in the EPL so I'm ok with TK taking his time this time and (hopefully) picking the right players to bring into a fairly deep squad.


That said.. I still want Diogo Dalot on loan if he can be gotten.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 10, 2019, 08:34:50 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 10, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
Assomballonga is not required
Why is it that every player some other team sign is a missed opportunity for the Whites?

Assomballonga would be an ideal signing for us.
But my point in this case was something different, which I think you've missed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 09:06:31 PM
I'd rather go for someone completely different to Mitrovic than go for an Assombalonga type Striker on big money as a different option to Mitrovic. Someone like an Okazaki type who if played with Mitrovic could in effect do the running for him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
We don't need that many signings, especially if we can retain all but Sessegnon and Seri in-terms of players who played a significant amount last season. Said it before, we could play a team of;
Bettinelli; Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite.
Rodak, Odoi, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley, Kebano, de la Torre, Fonte.
That's from the players we have in Portugal at the moment, not even factoring in Zambo or Ream.

I'd like to get the signings in ASAP, but it's not like the position we were in last summer where we almost literally didn't have a team going into Pre-Season- we're in a pretty strong position squad wise already. So I don't really mind waiting in that sense.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on July 10, 2019, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
We don't need that many signings, especially if we can retain all but Sessegnon and Seri in-terms of players who played a significant amount last season. Said it before, we could play a team of;
Bettinelli; Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite.
Rodak, Odoi, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley, Kebano, de la Torre, Fonte.
That's from the players we have in Portugal at the moment, not even factoring in Zambo or Ream.

I'd like to get the signings in ASAP, but it's not like the position we were in last summer where we almost literally didn't have a team going into Pre-Season- we're in a pretty strong position squad wise already. So I don't really mind waiting in that sense.

That leaves us at least 4 first team players to upgrade should we go back up... same mistakes again? Too many holes to fill?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 11, 2019, 12:01:33 AM
Has anyone stopped to think that we do need to strengthen the squad now.
It's miles away from competing in the PL. So if a miracle did happen and we returned  to the PL we would be in the same boat as last season still requiring upgrades and hence the inevitable straight back down.

Current squad has no depth and no way Mitro can last the whole season having to play every game.
Don't say We've got Fonte - he proved too lightweight in fizzy pop.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 12:25:31 AM
Quote from: Milo on July 10, 2019, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
We don't need that many signings, especially if we can retain all but Sessegnon and Seri in-terms of players who played a significant amount last season. Said it before, we could play a team of;
Bettinelli; Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite.
Rodak, Odoi, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley, Kebano, de la Torre, Fonte.
That's from the players we have in Portugal at the moment, not even factoring in Zambo or Ream.

I'd like to get the signings in ASAP, but it's not like the position we were in last summer where we almost literally didn't have a team going into Pre-Season- we're in a pretty strong position squad wise already. So I don't really mind waiting in that sense.

That leaves us at least 4 first team players to upgrade should we go back up... same mistakes again? Too many holes to fill?

I'd say 4 first team signings after promotion is about standard. Wolves are the perfect example in that sense. They went up and signed Patricio, Jonny, Moutinho and Jimenez to start (and when they switched to 3-5-2 Dendoncker came in as well).

If we went up next season I'd expect Mawson, Bryan, Zambo, Cairney and Mitrovic to be starting the following season out of the players we have currently at the club- which I'd expect to go to 7 total players with a new right-sided Centre-Back and Winger signing this summer. But also, let's worry about getting promoted first before getting into any of that.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 05:45:38 AM
Quote from: Milo on July 10, 2019, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
We don't need that many signings, especially if we can retain all but Sessegnon and Seri in-terms of players who played a significant amount last season. Said it before, we could play a team of;
Bettinelli; Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite.
Rodak, Odoi, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley, Kebano, de la Torre, Fonte.
That's from the players we have in Portugal at the moment, not even factoring in Zambo or Ream.

I'd like to get the signings in ASAP, but it's not like the position we were in last summer where we almost literally didn't have a team going into Pre-Season- we're in a pretty strong position squad wise already. So I don't really mind waiting in that sense.

That leaves us at least 4 first team players to upgrade should we go back up... same mistakes again? Too many holes to fill?

Fulham FC is currently a "yo-yo club", and I want TK to focus on buying the players to keep us as a "yo-yo club" which is whats required to winning a marathon season. We need the attacking depth that will score in more than 41 Championship Games (i.e. at least one more than last time) and the defensive depth that will get more than 15 clean sheets (i.e. at least one more than last time).

If we are on track to get automatic promotion by the winter transfer window, that is when bring in one or two quality premier league players to ensure promotion and form the base of the premier league squad. Importantly, by mid-season we will know which players are too good for the championship and who should stay in the championship after promotion.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 11, 2019, 06:38:25 AM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll

Started by his agent no doubt
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 07:05:04 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 11, 2019, 06:38:25 AM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll

Started by his agent no doubt

West Ham Career
Missed 151 games for West Ham
Played 142 games for West Ham
Scored 34 goals for West Ham


Last Season
Played 568 minutes last season
1 goal in the FA Cup
Zero assists
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 11, 2019, 07:36:03 AM
With Mitro staying would have thought (if we are to sign a striker) then a Gayle type player (Gayle unlikely in my mind) rather than a Carroll or Assambalonga is what we would need. Think the latter too is too similar to Mitro, assambalonga a little quicker than Mitro obviously. If we need a. Intro back up don't think we need to spend a massive amount on that as we have needs elsewhere
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 07:44:32 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 12:25:31 AM
Quote from: Milo on July 10, 2019, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
We don't need that many signings, especially if we can retain all but Sessegnon and Seri in-terms of players who played a significant amount last season. Said it before, we could play a team of;
Bettinelli; Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite.
Rodak, Odoi, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley, Kebano, de la Torre, Fonte.
That's from the players we have in Portugal at the moment, not even factoring in Zambo or Ream.

I'd like to get the signings in ASAP, but it's not like the position we were in last summer where we almost literally didn't have a team going into Pre-Season- we're in a pretty strong position squad wise already. So I don't really mind waiting in that sense.

That leaves us at least 4 first team players to upgrade should we go back up... same mistakes again? Too many holes to fill?

I'd say 4 first team signings after promotion is about standard. Wolves are the perfect example in that sense. They went up and signed Patricio, Jonny, Moutinho and Jimenez to start (and when they switched to 3-5-2 Dendoncker came in as well).

If we went up next season I'd expect Mawson, Bryan, Zambo, Cairney and Mitrovic to be starting the following season out of the players we have currently at the club- which I'd expect to go to 7 total players with a new right-sided Centre-Back and Winger signing this summer. But also, let's worry about getting promoted first before getting into any of that.

Generally, most of teams cohesion comes from the spine of six players RCB, LCB, DM, CM, AM and CF. We have four of those positions sorted in Mawson, Zambo, Cairney and Mitrovic, plus others (e.g. MLM and Seri) may still be at the club next season trying to prove they are worth of being part of a PL spine. I always think its wise to keep enough money to buy one player in the winter transfer window, and if we are getting promoted would upgrade one of these positions mid-season. And, if we do get promoted try to get Chambers to join us permanently too.

As for the other five positions GK, RB, LB, RW, LW and backup CF, i think the best we can get is top championship players and we can hope a few of them improve to be premier league quality (maybe Betts, Fossey, Bryan and Kamara).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 07:49:18 AM
Hilda by any chance?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Are you sure
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Are you sure

The same joke again?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 11, 2019, 08:23:21 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Are you sure

The same joke again?
Seems to be, i said the other day cannot remember (i do have a poor memory though) when we last signed someone while we were away at training camp. Sure someone knows
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on July 11, 2019, 08:24:43 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Are you sure

The same joke again?
ha ha another wind up
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 11, 2019, 08:27:05 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Are you sure

The same joke again?

So so funny and it just never gets old!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 08:34:26 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Are you sure

Yes with all the hospitals in the country, there is bound to be one.😀
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 08:36:44 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 11, 2019, 08:27:05 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Are you sure

The same joke again?

So so funny and it just never gets old!

Better than reading the constant drivel you and your two amigos keep churning out in every thread.
What was it you said....."Lighten Up Mate"😋
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 11, 2019, 08:46:37 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 08:36:44 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 11, 2019, 08:27:05 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Are you sure

The same joke again?

So so funny and it just never gets old!

Better than reading the constant drivel you and your two amigos keep churning out in every thread.
What was it you said....."Lighten Up Mate"😋
Personally i find it tedious as well
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jem on July 11, 2019, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
It was going to be Andy Carroll but he couldn't get up onto the physio table.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!

Who are all these kids that left us? Dembele and Hyndman? Likely Elliott. Over what, four years?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 09:33:35 AM
Had to laugh, just read on net"Fulham fans getting restless with all the rumours implying players going out and none coming in"
Is there a Mole in FoF giving away our gossip to others.😯
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 09:43:31 AM
Aston Villa expect to complete a £12m deal for Brentford's England under-21 star Ezri Konsa today.

Brentford brought in some Danish midfielder from Celta Vigo yesterday
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 11, 2019, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 11, 2019, 06:38:25 AM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll

Started by his agent no doubt

on a pay pler play deal wouldnt be bad, final 25 mins 1-0 down Mitro and Carroll up front
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 09:56:47 AM
Quote from: Nero on July 11, 2019, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 11, 2019, 06:38:25 AM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll

Started by his agent no doubt

on a pay pler play deal wouldnt be bad, final 25 mins 1-0 down Mitro and Carroll up front

I think he'll end up at Newcastle. They will see him as a cheap replacement for Rondon who seemingly won't go back without Rafa there unless I'm mistaken.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 11, 2019, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif
Whie I don't disagree that we need defensive reinforcements, it always makes me smile when we use the to say we need this that or the other, but then mock them when players are signed based on stats.

Stats are ok used for what they are, they do not give the whole picture as there are a lot of things to take into account.

But as I Say a CB at least is required in my opinion
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif

We're facing the likes of David Nugent now, not Aguero. The defence is not an issue at this level. Especially with Stuart Gray coaching them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:29:18 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif

We're facing the likes of David Nugent now, not Aguero. The defence is not an issue at this level. Especially with Stuart Gray coaching them.

Even at 34 David Nugent will dominate our current defence. If the likes of MLM, Bryan and Christie weren't up for the fight in the prem what makes you think they'll be more up for it this year?

If we don't improve our defence we need KMac to be an absolute shield infront of them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 12:29:41 PM

It was against the like of Nugent that we conceded more than any of the top 6 teams.

It is an issue if we are going for promotion.
As we will be repeating the same mistakes as last season.

Hence the point of my original post.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 12:30:23 PM
Are we hoping we just outscore our opponents ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:33:12 PM
We lost to Oldham last year because our defence couldn't handle the likes of Sam Surridge. Yet people think all of a sudden they can handle themselves....

Our first pre-season friendly this year - 3-1 loss to Cambridge. We played a fairly strong team. Our defence is appalling.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 11, 2019, 12:34:44 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


I think MLM will do fine in the Championship, his main errors are being sloppy in possession and in the Championship teams don't press as much as the EPL, so shouldn't be as bad. He is aggressive and will be up for the fight. I'd like to see how Mawson does in pre-season because he's supposed to be good in the air. Odoi and Ream not quite so reliable in the air, Odoi can actually jump quite high but he has an annoying habit of inexplicably ducking under a cross for some reason.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 11, 2019, 12:34:44 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


I think MLM will do fine in the Championship, his main errors are being sloppy in possession and in the Championship teams don't press as much as the EPL, so shouldn't be as bad. He is aggressive and will be up for the fight. I'd like to see how Mawson does in pre-season because he's supposed to be good in the air. Odoi and Ream not quite so reliable in the air, Odoi can actually jump quite high but he has an annoying habit of inexplicably ducking under a cross for some reason.

We just lost 3-1 to League 2 Cambridge UTD, MLM was at fault for two of their goals yet you think he'll be fine in the championship..... I'll have whatever your're drinking.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 11, 2019, 12:55:43 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif

We're facing the likes of David Nugent now, not Aguero. The defence is not an issue at this level. Especially with Stuart Gray coaching them.

The defence is a massive issue, it is Fulhams achilles heal. Lacks height and physicality, no leaders to marshal and a Fabri plays in goal, a dodger keeper. The defence is poor at set pieces and crosses, because we have no real height. Plus we have a habit of playing round pegs in square holes. It's not the managers fault, it is the recruitment who bring in the wrong players because they cannot get the right players, due to the incompetence of the bogus d of f. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 01:10:17 PM
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:39:58 PM

We just lost 3-1 to League 2 Cambridge UTD, MLM was at fault for two of their goals yet you think he'll be fine in the championship..... I'll have whatever your're drinking.

Do you actually think that is how you evaluate a player? Or that the loss to Oldham defines all players that participated in that game?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 01:10:17 PM
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:39:58 PM

We just lost 3-1 to League 2 Cambridge UTD, MLM was at fault for two of their goals yet you think he'll be fine in the championship..... I'll have whatever your're drinking.

Do you actually think that is how you evaluate a player? Or that the loss to Oldham defines all players that participated in that game?


Does an entire season of terrible performances not either?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 11, 2019, 01:30:07 PM
Unless we have a keeper who can catch a ball in the six yard box and a pair of centre halves who can head a ball away then we will not be bothering the promotion places, and to be honest I not sure we have either.

I'm not entirely sure our current keepers or centre halves fit that criteria.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 01:22:29 PM

Does an entire season of terrible performances not either?

I have not witnessed an entire season of terrible performances from MLM (even though that is of course somewhat subjective). You also didn't answer my question. In any case, my point was that there could maybe be a bit of a more reasonable discussion if the hyperbole and exaggerations could be kept down a bit. You are free to disagree on that as well of course.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 01:47:32 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 11, 2019, 01:30:07 PM
Unless we have a keeper who can catch a ball in the six yard box and a pair of centre halves who can head a ball away then we will not be bothering the promotion places, and to be honest I not sure we have either.

I'm not entirely sure our current keepers or centre halves fit that criteria.

Well, compared to our last season in the Championship, we have replaced Kalas with Mawson and MLM, and we have replaced Button with Fabri and Rodak. We finished third then, so maybe not out of the realm of possibilities that we may be bothering the promotion places?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 01:47:32 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 11, 2019, 01:30:07 PM
Unless we have a keeper who can catch a ball in the six yard box and a pair of centre halves who can head a ball away then we will not be bothering the promotion places, and to be honest I not sure we have either.

I'm not entirely sure our current keepers or centre halves fit that criteria.

Well, compared to our last season in the Championship, we have replaced Kalas with Mawson and MLM, and we have replaced Button with Fabri and Rodak. We finished third then, so maybe not out of the realm of possibilities that we may be bothering the promotion places?

We haven't replaced Kalas with Mawson, Mawson doesn't, and never will play right side the centre backs. We only currently have Odoi that can play there.

We've also downgraded Targett to Bryan and Fredericks to Christie.

Our defence is worse then it was when we went up, significantly.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 02:03:21 PM
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 01:47:32 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 11, 2019, 01:30:07 PM
Unless we have a keeper who can catch a ball in the six yard box and a pair of centre halves who can head a ball away then we will not be bothering the promotion places, and to be honest I not sure we have either.

I'm not entirely sure our current keepers or centre halves fit that criteria.

Well, compared to our last season in the Championship, we have replaced Kalas with Mawson and MLM, and we have replaced Button with Fabri and Rodak. We finished third then, so maybe not out of the realm of possibilities that we may be bothering the promotion places?

We haven't replaced Kalas with Mawson, Mawson doesn't, and never will play right side the centre backs. We only currently have Odoi that can play there.

We've also downgraded Targett to Bryan and Fredericks to Christie.

Our defence is worse then it was when we went up, significantly.

Spot on!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 01:58:54 PM

We haven't replaced Kalas with Mawson, Mawson doesn't, and never will play right side the centre backs. We only currently have Odoi that can play there.

We've also downgraded Targett to Bryan and Fredericks to Christie.

Our defence is worse then it was when we went up, significantly.

Most centre backs can play either side if they get some time to get used to it. Mawson can use both feet well. The post a replied to talked about centre backs and goalies, not full backs. But to add my opinion, I disagree that we have downgraded on the left, as I have seen nothing suggesting that Targett is better than Bryan really. Agree that we have slightly downgraded on the right, but mostly going forward.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 11, 2019, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
For 60m 😉
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 11, 2019, 02:15:58 PM
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 11, 2019, 12:34:44 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


I think MLM will do fine in the Championship, his main errors are being sloppy in possession and in the Championship teams don't press as much as the EPL, so shouldn't be as bad. He is aggressive and will be up for the fight. I'd like to see how Mawson does in pre-season because he's supposed to be good in the air. Odoi and Ream not quite so reliable in the air, Odoi can actually jump quite high but he has an annoying habit of inexplicably ducking under a cross for some reason.

We just lost 3-1 to League 2 Cambridge UTD, MLM was at fault for two of their goals yet you think he'll be fine in the championship..... I'll have whatever your're drinking.

It's a friendly game, players aren't match fit and it's about building up fitness.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 11, 2019, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif
Exactly...... what was it - 89 or 83 conceded in 38 games last year and that was including Chambers who came good as DM protecting the defence.
🤡
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on July 11, 2019, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
That's good news😂 hopefully Mawson is back to full fitness that leaves a vacancy on the treatment table Carroll will be a permanent replacement there😂
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
Luke Garbutt going to Ipswich on loan. I remember when we loaned him as the next Baines and how that went.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: David I on July 11, 2019, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM

Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif
Exactly...... what was it - 89 or 83 conceded in 38 games last year and that was including Chambers who came good as DM protecting the defence.
🤡

Mmm! we only "conceded one goal per game" against the bottom six teams in the second half of last premier season. If we continue to "only conceded one goal per game" against teams outside the top 13 premier league teams, then we will need to score around 79 goals to be promoted.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ScalleysDad on July 11, 2019, 03:42:25 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on July 11, 2019, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
That's good news😂 hopefully Mawson is back to full fitness that leaves a vacancy on the treatment table Carroll will be a permanent replacement there😂



I hope these reports are as accurate as Mitro leaving for just about anywhere. As you say the rebuild will have to have an injury room just for AC based on his West Ham days. A No.9, (although a plan B for Mitro and a plan C for when he is out is needed), is a bit of a way down the list surely.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 11, 2019, 03:50:01 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
There was another post (maybe further up this thread) about a twitter post with his face blocked out saying he couldn't wait to start for Fulham so you may be right?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 03:50:56 PM
Quote from: David I on July 11, 2019, 03:50:01 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
There was another post (maybe further up this thread) about a twitter post with his face blocked out saying he couldn't wait to start for Fulham so you may be right?

A signing to get excited about? I know absolutely nothing about him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 11, 2019, 03:53:39 PM
Quote from: David I on July 11, 2019, 03:50:01 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
There was another post (maybe further up this thread) about a twitter post with his face blocked out saying he couldn't wait to start for Fulham so you may be right?

i saw that and to be fair took it with a pinch of salt but i have just been told the announcement is tonight so logiclly it must be him

got to say, i know nothing about him though
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on July 11, 2019, 03:57:33 PM
Who's Cabral?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 11, 2019, 03:59:54 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 11, 2019, 03:57:33 PM
Who's Cabral?
Jovane Cabral is a winger from Portugal think he is at Sporting
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 11, 2019, 04:02:49 PM
Googled the name and found a post to the Fulham subreddit from a Sporting fan from when the rumour started about a month ago.

QuoteJust some info about the player: he's a physically very strong player, that started the season extremely well as a super sub with Peseiro, but has lost importance in the team (some will say unfairly) with Keizer. He always seemed far more comfortable coming on as a sub (his impact was great in that role, lots of decisive goals and assists) than as a starter, where he'd rarely show up.

As a player he's a right footed left winger. Best qualities are his shooting ability (good in all aspects: long range, finishing close range, shooting with both feet; crossing is also quite good), his "sixth sense" to put himself in good positions to score, his physicality (dude's built like the ex-Porto player Hulk), and decent pace. His weaknesses are mainly down to his mediocre dribbiling ability / 1v1 success rate, just doesn't have the skills to pull it off, close control isn't great.

Sounds like a better version of Kamara to me.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:53:39 PM
Quote from: David I on July 11, 2019, 03:50:01 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
There was another post (maybe further up this thread) about a twitter post with his face blocked out saying he couldn't wait to start for Fulham so you may be right?

i saw that and to be fair took it with a pinch of salt but i have just been told the announcement is tonight so logiclly it must be him

got to say, i know nothing about him though

"Jovane Cabral" is a younger version of Ayite from i can work out and so far without any official time off for injuries. He is also a lot like Ryan Sessegnon without his defensive skills.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/

Anyone actually seen or heard of him before being linked? Interested to get someone's point of view
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 11, 2019, 04:10:07 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 11, 2019, 04:02:49 PM
Googled the name and found a post to the Fulham subreddit from a Sporting fan from when the rumour started about a month ago.

QuoteJust some info about the player: he's a physically very strong player, that started the season extremely well as a super sub with Peseiro, but has lost importance in the team (some will say unfairly) with Keizer. He always seemed far more comfortable coming on as a sub (his impact was great in that role, lots of decisive goals and assists) than as a starter, where he'd rarely show up.

As a player he's a right footed left winger. Best qualities are his shooting ability (good in all aspects: long range, finishing close range, shooting with both feet; crossing is also quite good), his "sixth sense" to put himself in good positions to score, his physicality (dude's built like the ex-Porto player Hulk), and decent pace. His weaknesses are mainly down to his mediocre dribbiling ability / 1v1 success rate, just doesn't have the skills to pull it off, close control isn't great.

Sounds like a better version of Kamara to me.
Possibly, from what I understand he is a winger, where as AK is a striker who we play wide.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 11, 2019, 04:10:07 PM
In former Fulham player news, Jesse Joronen has moved to Brescia in the Serie A. He apparently turned Villa down.

Might be wise to bet on Rodak considering how well our former keepers are doing.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 11, 2019, 04:10:53 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 11, 2019, 04:10:07 PM
In former Fulham player news, Jesse Joronen has moved to Brescia in the Serie A. He apparently turned Villa down.

Might be wise to bet on Rodak considering how well our former keepers are doing.
Apparently moving for 5 million euros too, good move for him and both clubs i reckon
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 11, 2019, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 11, 2019, 04:10:07 PM
In former Fulham player news, Jesse Joronen has moved to Brescia in the Serie A. He apparently turned Villa down.

Might be wise to bet on Rodak considering how well our former keepers are doing.

IIRC it was Joronen that Magath played in goal after our last relegation. Glad to see him doing well now. I felt really sorry for him and the young defender, Cameron Burgess, during that brief period. They were really out of their depth but it wasn't a reflection of their talent or effort.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:42:11 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/

Anyone actually seen or heard of him before being linked? Interested to get someone's point of view

Adama Traore is the best comparison I could make. He's quite strong and quick, but has a shall we say questionable end product.

if he's remotely like Traore, i'm excited. Exactly the kind of player we need.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 04:43:15 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/

Anyone actually seen or heard of him before being linked? Interested to get someone's point of view

Adama Traore is the best comparison I could make. He's quite strong and quick, but has a shall we say questionable end product.

Accroding to Fifa 19 stats, the most similar player is Helder Costa, Adama Traore, Ayite and Aluko are kind of close.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:44:21 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:42:11 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/

Anyone actually seen or heard of him before being linked? Interested to get someone's point of view

Adama Traore is the best comparison I could make. He's quite strong and quick, but has a shall we say questionable end product.

if he's remotely like Traore, i'm excited. Exactly the kind of player we need.

Bit of a mix of Traore and Aluko. The common theme of the two being they aren't exactly reliable end product wise. I think he'd be a good signing though, as long as it was in addition to another winger- and not the only winger.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:46:43 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:44:21 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:42:11 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/

Anyone actually seen or heard of him before being linked? Interested to get someone's point of view

Adama Traore is the best comparison I could make. He's quite strong and quick, but has a shall we say questionable end product.

if he's remotely like Traore, i'm excited. Exactly the kind of player we need.

Bit of a mix of Traore and Aluko. The common theme of the two being they aren't exactly reliable end product wise. I think he'd be a good signing though, as long as it was in addition to another winger- and not the only winger.

Injecting pace into this side to provide and get in behind for Mitro is a massive step in the right direction. We get this guy and have Kamara in and around it, I think we'll do very well, especially against opposition that might sit back against us at times.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
Luke Garbutt going to Ipswich on loan. I remember when we loaned him as the next Baines and how that went.

Held himself in high esteem,and thought himself better than us when he was on loan.
Read at the time Everton fans saying he big head.
Want be the first prospect to slowly disappear of the scene.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:55:45 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
Luke Garbutt going to Ipswich on loan. I remember when we loaned him as the next Baines and how that went.

Held himself in high esteem,and thought himself better than us when he was on loan.
Read at the time Everton fans saying he big head.
Want be the first prospect to slowly disappear of the scene.

Oh really? Didn't know that. just assumed he had hit air blown up him too soon. Always sad to hear younger players losing way due to attitude.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space

Was it him who had the medical this morning?
:022:😋
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.

Sporting have a good record of creating and nurturing talent though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on July 11, 2019, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: David I on July 11, 2019, 03:50:01 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
There was another post (maybe further up this thread) about a twitter post with his face blocked out saying he couldn't wait to start for Fulham so you may be right?

Why must it be cabral if we in Portugal, he was spotted in the uk yesterday lol could of done the deal in Portugal dont make sense
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 11, 2019, 05:05:56 PM
Had no idea Garbutt was 26 too, been on loan his entire career. Feel a bit sorry for the lad never settling anywhere

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 05:09:35 PM
Jovane Cabral is exactly the kind of player we need now before the preseason starts, because it means we have a matchday 18 for the first game and won't need deadline day signing to play on first day like Joe Bryan last season.

Matchday 18 (with 7 homegrown) against Barnsley: Betts, Rodak; Christie, Odoi, Mawson, MLM, Ream, Bryan; McDonald, Anguissa, Johason, Cairney; Jovane Cabral, Kamara, Fonte, Mitro, Kebano, Ayite

Additional Players (or their replacements): Fabri; Fossey, S.Sess, Djola, Edun; Cisse, Seri, Riley; Torres, Another CF and R.Sess
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.

Sporting have a good record of creating and nurturing talent though.

There'd be two or three Sporting players I'd want ahead of Cabral. Specifically Bruno Gaspar, Domingos Duarte and Iuri Medeiros- but he should still be good for us as long as it wasn't instead of going for a "big" signing like a Cavaleiro.

But anyway, let's hope it's actually true that there's an announcement tonight (and it's Cabral) before getting ahead of ourselves.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 05:12:44 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.

Sporting have a good record of creating and nurturing talent though.

There'd be two or three Sporting players I'd want ahead of Cabral. Specifically Bruno Gaspar, Domingos Duarte and Iuri Medeiros- but he should still be good for us as long as it wasn't instead of going for a "big" signing like a Cavaleiro.

But anyway, let's hope it's actually true that there's an announcement tonight (and it's Cabral) before getting ahead of ourselves.

true. I wonder where Cavaleiro ends up. I kinda thought the whole Mendes podcast mention was a bit of a shout out to fans that it was him we were getting.

very different subject but did Sako end up anywhere? I'd love to see him at fulham.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 11, 2019, 05:16:50 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
Luke Garbutt going to Ipswich on loan. I remember when we loaned him as the next Baines and how that went.

Held himself in high esteem,and thought himself better than us when he was on loan.
Read at the time Everton fans saying he big head.
Want be the first prospect to slowly disappear of the scene.

He was very poor for us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:19:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 05:12:44 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.

Sporting have a good record of creating and nurturing talent though.

There'd be two or three Sporting players I'd want ahead of Cabral. Specifically Bruno Gaspar, Domingos Duarte and Iuri Medeiros- but he should still be good for us as long as it wasn't instead of going for a "big" signing like a Cavaleiro.

But anyway, let's hope it's actually true that there's an announcement tonight (and it's Cabral) before getting ahead of ourselves.

true. I wonder where Cavaleiro ends up. I kinda thought the whole Mendes podcast mention was a bit of a shout out to fans that it was him we were getting.

very different subject but did Sako end up anywhere? I'd love to see him at fulham.

Assuming you mean Bakary he's still a free agent. 

We could still be signing Cavaleiro and have a deal lined up to be completed after we've sold Seri and/or Sessegnon. I get the feeling that we're wanting to get those two sold ASAP.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 05:23:37 PM
@wheelerdealer - I did mean Bakary yes. think he could do a job for us although I wonder what his wages would be now. Be interested to see whether us spending is reliant on those two. I think we'll likely loan Seri out. No idea what happens to Sess still. I know its contentious, but I'd still imagine we could afford to at least spend 15-20m and not be hampered too much by FFP
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 05:23:37 PM
@wheelerdealer - I did mean Bakary yes. think he could do a job for us although I wonder what his wages would be now. Be interested to see whether us spending is reliant on those two. I think we'll likely loan Seri out. No idea what happens to Sess still. I know its contentious, but I'd still imagine we could afford to at least spend 15-20m and not be hampered too much by FFP

Don't know what he was on last season, but I know when he left Wolves to go to Palace a few years ago he was on something like 80k a week.

At the moment you'd imagine we're right on the verge of breaching FFP, if not breaching it given we'll still be paying for some of last seasons transfers and we'll have a massive wage bill for the Championship given Mitrovic and Cairney's new deals and having big earners like Mawson, Seri, Zambo etc. on the books. Even with parachute payments.

So I don't mind us being cautious and waiting for us to know our situation finance wise after player departures before going in for a 10m+ signing like Cavaleiro would be.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 11, 2019, 05:31:19 PM
Jovane Cabral

I'll believe it when I see him holding the shirt.

Looks ok in youtube videos.   Not game changer but good depth pickup.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:37:41 PM
I might be wrong and the rules might be different in Portugal compared to Turkey, but I think Sporting have to announce their transfers way in advance because they're a public company. Similar to how we knew about Fabri like a week before we actually announced him because Besiktas had to announce it to their shareholders.

Think I'm in the believe it when I see it camp. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.

Sporting have a good record of creating and nurturing talent though.

There'd be two or three Sporting players I'd want ahead of Cabral. Specifically Bruno Gaspar, Domingos Duarte and Iuri Medeiros- but he should still be good for us as long as it wasn't instead of going for a "big" signing like a Cavaleiro.

But anyway, let's hope it's actually true that there's an announcement tonight (and it's Cabral) before getting ahead of ourselves.

Jovane Cabral is Ryan Sessegnon's backup in the squad, a starter whenever Sessegnon is injuried. When we sell Sessegnon, we will also need a full replacement like Cavaleiro but now his replacement doesn't have to play from the first game.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 11, 2019, 05:42:54 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 11, 2019, 05:31:19 PM
Jovane Cabral

I'll believe it when I see him holding the shirt.

Looks ok in youtube videos.   Not game changer but good depth pickup.

He actually looks quite underwhelming in his hilights reel, looks like he has played all his football at local park level , he certainly doesn't have express pace, and can't see how we can play him and Kamara in the same side as both are very similar,
Will be interesting to see how he goes in some of the pre season games,
Let's hope for the best.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 05:45:44 PM
Imagine this, we need a squad. We need wingers. Cabral is a young winger. It's a positive move.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
We've bid 6 million for Ollie Mcburnie of Swansea I've just been text....Can't say I've seen him play.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 05:54:44 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 05:45:44 PM
Imagine this, we need a squad. We need wingers. Cabral is a young winger. It's a positive move.

Absolutely, he has excellent stats as a sub and we need to fill out the squad before that top signings will sign on the dotted line.

I'd personally, like to see a few more homegrown players to fill out the bench. We have to name seven homegrowns in our matchday 18 next year.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 11, 2019, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
We've bid 6 million for Ollie Mcburnie of Swansea I've just been text....Can't say I've seen him play.

If he's signed Rui Fonte will be going back on loan I'd think.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:58:44 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 05:54:44 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 05:45:44 PM
Imagine this, we need a squad. We need wingers. Cabral is a young winger. It's a positive move.

Absolutely, he has excellent stats as a sub and we need to fill out the squad before that top signings will sign on the dotted line.

I'd personally, like to see a few more homegrown players to fill out the bench. We have to name seven homegrowns in our matchday 18 next year.

Not worried about the HG quota in the slighest. As it stands we'll most likely be looking at Bettinelli, Rodak, Christie, Mawson, Bryan and Cairney being involved in every matchday squad (when fit), which just leaves us needing 1 more out of Rui Fonte and any of our youth players to fulfil the quota.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on July 11, 2019, 05:58:58 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 11, 2019, 05:42:54 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 11, 2019, 05:31:19 PM
Jovane Cabral

I'll believe it when I see him holding the shirt.

Looks ok in youtube videos.   Not game changer but good depth pickup.

He actually looks quite underwhelming in his hilights reel, looks like he has played all his football at local park level , he certainly doesn't have express pace, and can't see how we can play him and Kamara in the same side as both are very similar,
Will be interesting to see how he goes in some of the pre season games,
Let's hope for the best.
hes a better player than sess I use to bet on sporting and watch there games often, if anything sess would be back up to cabral
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
We've bid 6 million for Ollie Mcburnie of Swansea I've just been text....Can't say I've seen him play.

Either you're being lied to or we're not actually seriously going for him considering Swansea want 20m for him. He was one of the players I wanted as a potential Mitrovic replacement, but that's obviously not needed now. Think McBurnie ends up in the Prem with either Brighton or Sheffield Utd.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 06:04:21 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
We've bid 6 million for Ollie Mcburnie of Swansea I've just been text....Can't say I've seen him play.

Either you're being lied to or we're not actually seriously going for him considering Swansea want 20m for him. He was one of the players I wanted as a potential Mitrovic replacement, but that's obviously not needed now. Think McBurnie ends up in the Prem with either Brighton or Sheffield Utd.

Not lied to,a friend in Suffolk's son works at the Express...He's got a few right before.
6 mill just a tester maybe,think your over top with 20 mill...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 06:04:21 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
We've bid 6 million for Ollie Mcburnie of Swansea I've just been text....Can't say I've seen him play.

Either you're being lied to or we're not actually seriously going for him considering Swansea want 20m for him. He was one of the players I wanted as a potential Mitrovic replacement, but that's obviously not needed now. Think McBurnie ends up in the Prem with either Brighton or Sheffield Utd.

Not lied to,a friend in Suffolk's son works at the Express...He's got a few right before.
6 mill just a tester maybe,think your over top with 20 mill...

Would expect him to be going for at least 12-14m after the season he just had. Would imagine it'd be similar to Konsa (if we were in for him) in that a Prem team will come in with the added Prem money and lure of Prem football and the player chooses Prem football every time.

Not sure where he'd fit with us either given we're keeping Mitrovic.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 06:17:48 PM
Just had a look on oddschecker 8/11 for Sheff Utd
No show for us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jims Dentist on July 11, 2019, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 09, 2019, 05:18:38 PM
Only problem with Ayite is how injury prone he is in my opinion.
Agree he and Kabano have spent so much time unavailable through injury.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 08:50:10 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 06:17:48 PM
Just had a look on oddschecker 8/11 for Sheff Utd
No show for us.

Apparently Sheffield United have just bid on Callum Robinson of Preston  so maybe they will not pursue mcBurnie
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 11, 2019, 08:58:10 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 08:50:10 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 06:17:48 PM
Just had a look on oddschecker 8/11 for Sheff Utd
No show for us.

Apparently Sheffield United have just bid on Callum Robinson of Preston  so maybe they will not pursue mcBurnie
I heard that it was Norwich in for Robinson maybe both then. Good for Preston as that would drive the price up
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space

At what point do you class 'tonight' 11:59pm? 079.gif

I smell bullpoo
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 11, 2019, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space

At what point do you class 'tonight' 11:59pm? 079.gif

I smell bullpoo

We normally announce on Friday dont we. Hopefully hear something tomorrow
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 12, 2019, 12:48:17 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 05:45:44 PM
Imagine this, we need a squad. We need wingers. Cabral is a young winger. It's a positive move.

Agree with this, nothing more than a back up option but we are hardly padded out with wingers. Its not costing us anything so we may as well add him as an option.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 12, 2019, 02:08:07 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 05:45:44 PM
Imagine this, we need a squad. We need wingers. Cabral is a young winger. It's a positive move.

Have we time warped back to pre-Alf Ramsey days?

What are posters meaning by 'winger'?

Do they mean a wide mid-fielder? Or do they mean an attacker to complement Mitro?

And don't we have some players who can play in these roles already such as Kamara, Ayite and Kebano?

If these are considered not good enough then should these not be moved on?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 12, 2019, 02:30:12 AM
You need bench players which Ayite and Kebano are. You also need an everyday 90 minute right side attacking player in a 4-2-3-1.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 12, 2019, 05:32:42 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 12, 2019, 02:30:12 AM

You need bench players which Ayite and Kebano are. You also need an everyday 90 minute right side attacking player in a 4-2-3-1.

What a team needs doesn't matter, especially under FFP rules, all that matters is what a team can afford. Man City doesn't need players, but it can afford new players so its buying them. Sunderland desperately needs new players, but cannot afford them so isn't buying them.

All that matters is what we can afford right now, before any sales are completed. So what can we afford? I don't know, but my guess is until the Ryan Sessegnon sale is completed, we cannot afford top 90 minute players of around £12m and we don't want to buy someone assuming we get a good price for Sessegnon.

What Fulham's needs buy now (and probably can buy) is a couple of players around £4m for the pre-season squad that can start in the first few games if required, that are also players that would be good off the bench if we can bring in better improvements.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 08:27:40 AM
Definitely a medical this morning,my cousin Vinnie has his yearly one for driving his furniture van in Kent.
Coyw..
FFS ...Mince your going crazy,its called "Lack of Signings Disease"... I'm off to the shed to hide away,let me know if someone does actually have a medical....Love from Mr & Mrs Mince n T.😝😝😝
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 12, 2019, 09:15:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 11, 2019, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space

At what point do you class 'tonight' 11:59pm? 079.gif

I smell bullpoo

We normally announce on Friday dont we. Hopefully hear something tomorrow

this is why people get fed up on here. i passed on information that was given to me. what do i get out of making it up?
wont bother next time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on July 12, 2019, 09:19:54 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 08:27:40 AM
Definitely a medical this morning,my cousin Vinnie has his yearly one for driving his furniture van in Kent.
Coyw..
FFS ...Mince your going crazy,its called "Lack of Singings Disease"... I'm off to the shed to hide away,let me know if someone does actually have a medical....Love from Mr & Mrs Mince n T.😝😝😝

Do they check his chest?
Can he be stopped from driving if he has gatelegs?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:22:58 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 12, 2019, 09:15:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 11, 2019, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space

At what point do you class 'tonight' 11:59pm? 079.gif

I smell bullpoo

We normally announce on Friday dont we. Hopefully hear something tomorrow

this is why people get fed up on here. i passed on information that was given to me. what do i get out of making it up?
wont bother next time.

With all due respect, and i'm coming from a place where I appreciate you passed on what you heard, but when you do that and it doesn't happen, you can hardly be surprised that people highlight that it was wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: OMalleyCat on July 12, 2019, 09:31:05 AM
Cavaleiro apparently coming in on loan.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:34:06 AM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on July 12, 2019, 09:31:05 AM
Cavaleiro apparently coming in on loan.

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Loan to buy hopefully. Whats the source?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on July 12, 2019, 09:42:04 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:34:06 AM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on July 12, 2019, 09:31:05 AM
Cavaleiro apparently coming in on loan.

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Loan to buy hopefully. Whats the source?

Loan with an option to buy confirmed by John Percy of the Telegraph
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: deano_632 on July 12, 2019, 09:42:19 AM
@JPercyTelegraph
#Fulham are poised to sign
@Wolves
winger Ivan Cavaleiro on a season's loan. Cavaleiro was a target for Fulham last year and understand there is an option to buy #wwfc
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 12, 2019, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 12, 2019, 09:42:19 AM
@JPercyTelegraph
#Fulham are poised to sign
@Wolves
winger Ivan Cavaleiro on a season's loan. Cavaleiro was a target for Fulham last year and understand there is an option to buy #wwfc
Now that would be a signing!

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:53:06 AM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 12, 2019, 09:42:19 AM
@JPercyTelegraph
#Fulham are poised to sign
@Wolves
winger Ivan Cavaleiro on a season's loan. Cavaleiro was a target for Fulham last year and understand there is an option to buy #wwfc

Oh man, this is the kinda signing that'll gte my hopes up.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on July 12, 2019, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 12, 2019, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 12, 2019, 09:42:19 AM
@JPercyTelegraph
#Fulham are poised to sign
@Wolves
winger Ivan Cavaleiro on a season's loan. Cavaleiro was a target for Fulham last year and understand there is an option to buy #wwfc
Now that would be a signing!

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brilliant news, hes a quality winger
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: OMalleyCat on July 12, 2019, 09:58:14 AM
Tim spiers - Expecting Ivan Cavaleiro to move to Fulham today on a season long loan. They'll have an option to buy him next summer. An expected departure - Wolves decided he and Costa were surplus to requirements some time ago. But it does heighten the need again for new signings #wwfc

From Twitter.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on July 12, 2019, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:22:58 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 12, 2019, 09:15:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 11, 2019, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space

At what point do you class 'tonight' 11:59pm? 079.gif

I smell bullpoo

We normally announce on Friday dont we. Hopefully hear something tomorrow

this is why people get fed up on here. i passed on information that was given to me. what do i get out of making it up?
wont bother next time.

With all due respect, and i'm coming from a place where I appreciate you passed on what you heard, but when you do that and it doesn't happen, you can hardly be surprised that people highlight that it was wrong.

Im of a different opinion.... I think that he passed on his info in good faith (knowing that in football not everything runs smoothly or on time). So if the announcement got delayed or the deal fell through then why bother giving him grief for it? I believe that his source was legit and he was kind enough to give us some juicy gossip...

In the past I once passed on some similar info that I got from a friend of mine who was mates with a doc that worked for ffc a few years ago.... Got some info about a couple of medicals that I passed on to this thread. Then I got a kicking because the deals were never completed. I had no reason to doubt the info as I have met the doc in question a couple of times after games. Also, I had no reason to make it up myself as I'm not a weirdo (well.... not a total weirdo anyway!). So in conclusion.... Thanks for passing on the tidbit! Sorry for the rambling message!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 10:33:45 AM

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Im of a different opinion.... I think that he passed on his info in good faith (knowing that in football not everything runs smoothly or on time). So if the announcement got delayed or the deal fell through then why bother giving him grief for it? I believe that his source was legit and he was kind enough to give us some juicy gossip...

In the past I once passed on some similar info that I got from a friend of mine who was mates with a doc that worked for ffc a few years ago.... Got some info about a couple of medicals that I passed on to this thread. Then I got a kicking because the deals were never completed. I had no reason to doubt the info as I have met the doc in question a couple of times after games. Also, I had no reason to make it up myself as I'm not a weirdo (well.... not a total weirdo anyway!). So in conclusion.... Thanks for passing on the tidbit! Sorry for the rambling message!
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Haha fair enough. I just think if the person knew it was all in good faith (and the other doesn't) and it ends up incorrect, delayed, fell through etc. You know its fine so why bother getting annoyed at other responses? Ultimately, it didn't happen and they don't know how good the source was so its a bit of a gray one.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on July 12, 2019, 10:39:44 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:34:06 AM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on July 12, 2019, 09:31:05 AM
Cavaleiro apparently coming in on loan.

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Loan to buy hopefully. Whats the source?

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/07/12/ivan-cavaleiro-set-to-leave-wolves-for-fulham/

Wolves winger Ivan Cavaleiro is poised to join Fulham on a season-long loan

The Cottagers were chasing the forward last summer following their promotion to the Premier League, but are now set to get their man having suffered relegation back to the Championship.

Fulham will have an option to buy the 25-year-old. The deal is expected to go through today.

As reported by the Express & Star last month, Wolves were open to offers for the winger alongside Helder Costa. The latter departed for Leeds on a season-long loan with an obligation to buy earlier this summer.

Cavaleiro was an integral part of the side which earned Wolves promotion to the top flight in the 2017/18 season, but saw his role diminish last season - starting only six times in the Premier League.

The Portuguese winger missed the beginning of last season due to a back injury, and struggled to find form throughout the campaign, scoring five goals and registering two assists.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 12, 2019, 10:44:46 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 12, 2019, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:22:58 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 12, 2019, 09:15:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 11, 2019, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.

would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space

At what point do you class 'tonight' 11:59pm? 079.gif

I smell bullpoo

We normally announce on Friday dont we. Hopefully hear something tomorrow

this is why people get fed up on here. i passed on information that was given to me. what do i get out of making it up?
wont bother next time.

With all due respect, and i'm coming from a place where I appreciate you passed on what you heard, but when you do that and it doesn't happen, you can hardly be surprised that people highlight that it was wrong.

Im of a different opinion.... I think that he passed on his info in good faith (knowing that in football not everything runs smoothly or on time). So if the announcement got delayed or the deal fell through then why bother giving him grief for it? I believe that his source was legit and he was kind enough to give us some juicy gossip...

In the past I once passed on some similar info that I got from a friend of mine who was mates with a doc that worked for ffc a few years ago.... Got some info about a couple of medicals that I passed on to this thread. Then I got a kicking because the deals were never completed. I had no reason to doubt the info as I have met the doc in question a couple of times after games. Also, I had no reason to make it up myself as I'm not a weirdo (well.... not a total weirdo anyway!). So in conclusion.... Thanks for passing on the tidbit! Sorry for the rambling message!

thanks Jelmo, thats pretty much nail on the head. its the manner on here in which people are so pleased to shoot people down that grates on me. i for one am pleased for any rumours/ information on here
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 12, 2019, 10:48:39 AM
According to sky Cavaliero is having a medical today
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 12, 2019, 10:51:48 AM
From Anton Toloui (Reporter and News Editor - Sky Sports News) -

"Ivan Cavaleiro to have a medical at #FFC today ahead of a season-long loan from #WWFC. The deal includes an option to buy. The winger had been part of Wolves' Asian Trophy squad but now won't be part of the team traveling to China tomorrow."
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on July 12, 2019, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 12, 2019, 10:51:48 AM
From Anton Toloui (Reporter and News Editor - Sky Sports News) -

"Ivan Cavaleiro to have a medical at #FFC today ahead of a season-long loan from #WWFC. The deal includes an option to buy. The winger had been part of Wolves' Asian Trophy squad but now won't be part of the team traveling to China tomorrow."

Great signing! Just what we need.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
Why has he dropped out of favour at Wolves,I thought he was one of their mainstays.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on July 12, 2019, 10:57:28 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
Why has he dropped out of favour at Wolves,I thought he was one of their mainstays.

Sounds like he only started 6 games last season. Guess that have better options now. But he seems to flourish in the championship so all good for us!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: deano_632 on July 12, 2019, 10:57:37 AM
From the sun - so take with a pinch of salt....
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9492342/fulham-knockaert-transfer-15m-premier-league/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 12, 2019, 10:57:37 AM
From the sun - so take with a pinch of salt....
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9492342/fulham-knockaert-transfer-15m-premier-league/

Can't see it personally but would also be an amazing signing.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on July 12, 2019, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 12, 2019, 10:57:28 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
Why has he dropped out of favour at Wolves,I thought he was one of their mainstays.

Sounds like he only started 6 games last season. Guess that have better options now. But he seems to flourish in the championship so all good for us!
looking at Facebook groups and wolves forums they are not happy hes leaving
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:15:43 AM
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 12, 2019, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 12, 2019, 10:57:28 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
Why has he dropped out of favour at Wolves,I thought he was one of their mainstays.

Sounds like he only started 6 games last season. Guess that have better options now. But he seems to flourish in the championship so all good for us!
looking at Facebook groups and wolves forums they are not happy hes leaving

No idea if its true but I heard a while back from a Wolves fan that Costa and Ivan both kicked off after the January window for not being allowed to go out on loan/leave due to lack of playing time and no firm promises that they wouldn't be more than squad players. Maybe theres something to it?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 12, 2019, 11:16:08 AM
Any idea how much the future transfer option would be?

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:17:59 AM
Presuming the Knockaert rumours are true (i highly doubt they are) but does Ivan and Knockaert play on the same wing?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 12, 2019, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:17:59 AM
Presuming the Knockaert rumours are true (i highly doubt they are) but does Ivan and Knockaert play on the same wing?

Knockaert generally plays RW, Cavaleiro capable on both sides.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ss12white on July 12, 2019, 11:30:28 AM
Ivan is having his medical as we speak!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 12, 2019, 11:34:07 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
Why has he dropped out of favour at Wolves,I thought he was one of their mainstays.

He was in the Championship, they don't really play with wingers now though, they use wingbacks instead. Traore is the only winger they seem to be keeping and he can be used as a striker.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 12, 2019, 11:54:48 AM
Apparently Aston Villa have enquired about young Ryan
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 12, 2019, 11:59:01 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 12, 2019, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:17:59 AM
Presuming the Knockaert rumours are true (i highly doubt they are) but does Ivan and Knockaert play on the same wing?

Knockaert generally plays RW, Cavaleiro capable on both sides.

This will Be the money from selling Ryan
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 12, 2019, 12:15:10 PM
If Knockaert comes at least we will get a few more pens from his diving. I always regarded him as a nasty piece of work. A cheat & a diver. I will give him the benefit of playing with us before writing him off for his past.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 12, 2019, 12:18:57 PM
Huh, Knockaert is only 27, had gotten it into my head that he was in his early thirties for some reason.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 12:29:13 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 12, 2019, 12:18:57 PM
Huh, Knockaert is only 27, had gotten it into my head that he was in his early thirties for some reason.


I thought exactly the same, I was surprised he was 27
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 12:37:20 PM
Villa just signed Brazil u23 captain from Man City, full back in the pipe line.



On a side note Crouchie retires, good luck to him always found him a thoroughly likeable man with a good sense of humour
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: RaySmith on July 12, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 12:37:20 PM
Villa just signed Brazil u23 captain from Man City, full back in the pipe line.



On a side note Crouchie retires, good luck to him always found him a thoroughly likeable man with a good sense of humour


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His podcasts were, surpringly, good - self-deprecating,funny and informative.

Just reading that he was hoping to play til 40 -he's 38, and feels fit enough, but fed up with sitting on the bench to come on for final minutes to have long balls smashed up to him.

Wish him luck in the future.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rock on July 12, 2019, 01:11:05 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 12, 2019, 11:59:01 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 12, 2019, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:17:59 AM
Presuming the Knockaert rumours are true (i highly doubt they are) but does Ivan and Knockaert play on the same wing?

Knockaert generally plays RW, Cavaleiro capable on both sides.

This will Be the money from selling Ryan

And I think I'd rather have these 2 for Sess IF he has to go. Maybe there's even room to sign a proper defender as well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 12, 2019, 01:16:14 PM
Apparently we're leading the pack for Mo Besic from Everton for £5m.

Don't know that much about him but seems reasonable?

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 12, 2019, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 12, 2019, 01:16:14 PM
Apparently we're leading the pack for Mo Besic from Everton for £5m.

Don't know that much about him but seems reasonable?

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During his career, Bešić has been deployed as a right back and as a centre back, although his natural position by his own words is defensive midfielder.

He was described in 2014 by Everton manager Roberto Martínez as a "very complete footballer", who "has got a very natural balance about knowing that he can be strong and aggressive but in the same way he's a technical player on the ball."[36]
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 12, 2019, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 12, 2019, 01:16:14 PM
Apparently we're leading the pack for Mo Besic from Everton for £5m.

Don't know that much about him but seems reasonable?

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Been training under Pulis for 18 months, which has no doubt helped his defensive abilities.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: howitis on July 12, 2019, 01:52:45 PM
I see Everton are prepared to listen to offers for Lookman. That is one player I would love to see in a Fulham shirt and would be excellent value even at circa 15/20m.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on July 12, 2019, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: howitis on July 12, 2019, 01:52:45 PM
I see Everton are prepared to listen to offers for Lookman. That is one player I would love to see in a Fulham shirt and would be excellent value even at circa 15/20m.
Shame he's going for about closer to £25 mill
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 12, 2019, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: Danitar on July 12, 2019, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: howitis on July 12, 2019, 01:52:45 PM
I see Everton are prepared to listen to offers for Lookman. That is one player I would love to see in a Fulham shirt and would be excellent value even at circa 15/20m.
Shame he's going for about closer to £25 mill

I can see a season long loan and brought when we get promoted or a straight for Sess
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 12, 2019, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 12, 2019, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: Danitar on July 12, 2019, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: howitis on July 12, 2019, 01:52:45 PM
I see Everton are prepared to listen to offers for Lookman. That is one player I would love to see in a Fulham shirt and would be excellent value even at circa 15/20m.
Shame he's going for about closer to £25 mill

I can see a season long loan and brought when we get promoted or a straight for Sess
Lookman likely to go back to Germany sadly
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 12, 2019, 03:35:11 PM
Imagine finalising Hector, Besic, Cavaliero and Knockaert by the Porto game. Won't happen, but fairly confident we can sort out 2 of them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on July 12, 2019, 03:40:03 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 12, 2019, 11:59:01 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 12, 2019, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:17:59 AM
Presuming the Knockaert rumours are true (i highly doubt they are) but does Ivan and Knockaert play on the same wing?

Knockaert generally plays RW, Cavaleiro capable on both sides.

This will Be the money from selling Ryan

No because it's a loan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 12, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
The Knockaert rumour smells like our standard, not-so-subtle tactic of squeezing the fee/wages for one played (Cavaleiro) by appearing to be interested in another that plays in the same position
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.

Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon,  Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.

Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon,  Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.

Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 12, 2019, 04:15:08 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.

Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon,  Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.

Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.

I wonder if we might play a 4-2-3-1 this year with rumours of Besic as well, poor old Cisse been here how long and never had a bad game just doesn't seem to be in favour, dont think he'll go anywhere as we havent got rid of him for the past few years
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamfan on July 12, 2019, 04:21:51 PM
gonna be Cisses year this season. i like him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 12, 2019, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.

Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect SessegnonAnguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.

1.  Isn't Sess still hurt?    Selling him injured?  Or even better...maybe today's rumors are true and he's got interest from Man United (who want 3 other players ahead of him) or Villa...who just got promoted...sure...Ryan want's to leave Fulham for Villa. 064.gif

2. Anguissa isn't going anywhere even though you want him gone.


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 12, 2019, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.

Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon,  Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.

Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.

I just don't see how Anguissa will fit in if we play 4-2-3-1. He won't play in the front 3 of midfield and I cant see him dislodging StefJo as the box to box midfielder and KMac sits in front of the defence allowing others to press forward. We tried him in the KMac role last season and it didn't work. There's undoubted talent there but I don't think he suited to Fulham personally.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Captain Fulhamerica on July 12, 2019, 04:32:07 PM
I like Besic as a player that would provide some defensive backbone. That would give us Cairney, StefJo, KMac, Anguissa, Cisse, O'Riley(?), and Besic as options in central midfield (assuming Seri leaves). That's a really solid midfield at this level.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 12, 2019, 04:32:42 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 12, 2019, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.

Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon,  Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.

Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.

I just don't see how Anguissa will fit in if we play 4-2-3-1. He won't play in the front 3 of midfield and I cant see him dislodging StefJo as the box to box midfielder and KMac sits in front of the defence allowing others to press forward. We tried him in the KMac role last season and it didn't work. There's undoubted talent there but I don't think he suited to Fulham personally.

He's better than Stefjo...at what Stefjo does.   Well, Stefjo is better at pissing opposing players off...but Anguissa is a better box to box.  And apparently KMac in the #6 position wouldn't have worked last year either considering almost none of our three managers gave him any playing time at all.    It doesn't mean anything when it comes to playing in the Championship.

Again...Scott Parker rates him...and he's got talent...so he's not going anywhere.   The team is trying to come back up.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 12, 2019, 04:34:52 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 12, 2019, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.

Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon,  Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.

Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.

I just don't see how Anguissa will fit in if we play 4-2-3-1. He won't play in the front 3 of midfield and I cant see him dislodging StefJo as the box to box midfielder and KMac sits in front of the defence allowing others to press forward. We tried him in the KMac role last season and it didn't work. There's undoubted talent there but I don't think he suited to Fulham personally.
Didn't we play Anguissa in a holding role? Anyway for his national team he has played both the holding and box to box roll, so he, Stef Jo and Kmac may make a good three some to work with for the two positions. Basic i am ambivalent about, never really seemed that good to me
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 12, 2019, 04:57:54 PM
got to remember, the year we came up, we were VERY lucky with injuries and suspensions that it didnt dislodge the midfield trio of KMac, StefJo and TC. can we be that lucky again, maybe. does having Anguissa in the mix hurt? absolutely not. i for one like him and see there is the talent there that others see and absolutley agree, that at this level, he should be an absolute assett
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 12, 2019, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 12, 2019, 04:57:54 PM
got to remember, the year we came up, we were VERY lucky with injuries and suspensions that it didnt dislodge the midfield trio of KMac, StefJo and TC. can we be that lucky again, maybe. does having Anguissa in the mix hurt? absolutely not. i for one like him and see there is the talent there that others see and absolutley agree, that at this level, he should be an absolute assett

There was the first half of the season where Cairney hardly played, so I wouldn't say we were all that lucky with injuries. But Anguissa would be the Norwood rounding it out to 4 players. Also am hoping that O'Riley can take the step up this season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on July 12, 2019, 05:11:52 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 12, 2019, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.

Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon,  Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.

Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.

I just don't see how Anguissa will fit in if we play 4-2-3-1. He won't play in the front 3 of midfield and I cant see him dislodging StefJo as the box to box midfielder and KMac sits in front of the defence allowing others to press forward. We tried him in the KMac role last season and it didn't work. There's undoubted talent there but I don't think he suited to Fulham personally.

Anguissa was part of the Marseille team that got to the europa league final utilising a 4-2-3-1; he was so good that season because he played alongside Luiz Gustavo who's a class defensive midfielder who literally sits in front of the back four and doesn't roam. Have Kmac or Besic fulfilling that role allows him to go and do what he did so well which was be more box to box, and it also means you can have TC further forward and relinquished of defensive duties.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
If we sign Besic, Anguissa will be gone.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 12, 2019, 05:21:50 PM
Being linked and bookies favourite for Harry Arter again
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 12, 2019, 05:36:21 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
If we sign Besic, Anguissa will be gone.

They aren't similar players really. Both next to each other will be a superb combo.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 12, 2019, 05:54:10 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
If we sign Besic, Anguissa will be gone.

LOL..i'd rather sell Stefjo and Kmac to West Brom than get rid of Anguissa.   (if Besic rumor is true)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 13, 2019, 08:51:19 AM
Newcastle owner Mike Ashley could end up having to pay more to make Steve Bruce his new manager than he offered Rafael Benitez to stay.

You can't make this up. LOL
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 13, 2019, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 13, 2019, 08:51:19 AM
Newcastle owner Mike Ashley could end up having to pay more to make Steve Bruce his new manager than he offered Rafael Benitez to stay.

You can't make this up. LOL

yea, but he wont have the constant moaning, did see Rafa sticking around for a PL job straight to China for his 12m no wonder Ashley waved him goodbye
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on July 13, 2019, 10:45:50 AM
Cavaleiro, Besic, Knockaert .. now were talking. All 3 would be great signings
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 13, 2019, 11:10:15 AM
New rumour from Italy is that AC Milan is looking into signing Seri if they can't get Veretout, and Veretout is looking unlikely.

Seeing as this is a transfer to an Italian club, it'd be a loan with obligation to buy as a best case scenario.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2019, 11:29:24 AM
Seems to have gone a bit quiet on the CB front. Would really like Hector, personally haven't seen that much of him ,liked what I did though & after talking to a Wednesday fan about him I reckon he would be a great signing.
London lad ,6ft 4" good in the air with a very decent turn of pace. Think he plays on the right so could compliment any of the other centre halves we've got
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 13, 2019, 01:14:31 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2019, 11:29:24 AM
Seems to have gone a bit quiet on the CB front. Would really like Hector, personally haven't seen that much of him ,liked what I did though & after talking to a Wednesday fan about him I reckon he would be a great signing.
London lad ,6ft 4" good in the air with a very decent turn of pace. Think he plays on the right so could compliment any of the other centre halves we've got

Hector is a must, and a priority position to be filled.
Not fussed about Besic though.
I would also welcome Knockaert he is a maverick with the X Factor and makes things happen, and needs a strong manager to handle him, and Cavaleiro is quality and speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 13, 2019, 01:34:18 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 13, 2019, 10:45:50 AM
Cavaleiro, Besic, Knockaert .. now were talking. All 3 would be great signings

It seems we are hoping to fund all three with Ryan Sessegnon a £40m sale, but if we get less it maybe tough.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 13, 2019, 01:35:42 PM
Rangers sign Felip Helander, 26 year old Swedish international centre back for 3.5 mill.  So they are out there, he has been playing for Bologna.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 13, 2019, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 13, 2019, 01:35:42 PM
Rangers sign Felip Helander, 26 year old Swedish international centre back for 3.5 mill.  So they are out there, he has been playing for Bologna.

On paper that is an unbelievable bit of business, his c.v reads really well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 13, 2019, 01:52:02 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 13, 2019, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 13, 2019, 01:35:42 PM
Rangers sign Felip Helander, 26 year old Swedish international centre back for 3.5 mill.  So they are out there, he has been playing for Bologna.

On paper that is an unbelievable bit of business, his c.v reads really well.

Seen him a lot. In my opinion not better than our current options. Good price though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 13, 2019, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 12, 2019, 05:54:10 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
If we sign Besic, Anguissa will be gone.

LOL..i'd rather sell Stefjo and Kmac to West Brom than get rid of Anguissa.   (if Besic rumor is true)

If I was to choose one midfielder for next time we are in Premier League, Anguissa would be my Pick.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Asotosyios on July 13, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
I would like us to try to bring Piazon back. He is not in Lampard's plans and only has a year left on his contract, so he wouldn't cost crazy money (perhaps £2-2,5m?).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on July 13, 2019, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: Asotosyios on July 13, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
I would like us to try to bring Piazon back. He is not in Lampard's plans and only has a year left on his contract, so he wouldn't cost crazy money (perhaps £2-2,5m?).

075.gif Just not good enough if we have any real ambition.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 13, 2019, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 13, 2019, 01:35:42 PM
Rangers sign Felip Helander, 26 year old Swedish international centre back for 3.5 mill.  So they are out there, he has been playing for Bologna.

He isn't very good and is left sided to boot. I'd be concerned if we were signing him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on July 13, 2019, 03:55:09 PM
Cavaliero has signed, TK and FFC tweeted it
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 13, 2019, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 13, 2019, 03:55:09 PM
Cavaliero has signed, TK and FFC tweeted it
Just seen it too. Hallelujah!!!

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 13, 2019, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 13, 2019, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: Asotosyios on July 13, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
I would like us to try to bring Piazon back. He is not in Lampard's plans and only has a year left on his contract, so he wouldn't cost crazy money (perhaps £2-2,5m?).

075.gif Just not good enough if we have any real ambition.
No we need better than Piazon and with Cav. Mitro and Kamara available he would spend most of the season bench warming.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: smallfulhamman on July 13, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
So happy to hear that Ivan's joined.

If we manage besic and another CB i'd be over the moon.
On the note of CBs does anyone know if there was a reason we didn't get Kalas back? I felt he was our best player at the back during the championship?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on July 13, 2019, 05:44:10 PM
Quote from: smallfulhamman on July 13, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
So happy to hear that Ivan's joined.

If we manage besic and another CB i'd be over the moon.
On the note of CBs does anyone know if there was a reason we didn't get Kalas back? I felt he was our best player at the back during the championship?


you thought he was better than the unbeatable Tim Ream of that season? and even Odoi - the two mainstays of that unbeaten run. Better than Fredericks and Matt Targett too? - both playing prem football?
I thought he was a good back up a solid professional who worked hard and had some quality but not anything I was worried about missing out on personally.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 13, 2019, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: smallfulhamman on July 13, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
So happy to hear that Ivan's joined.

If we manage besic and another CB i'd be over the moon.
On the note of CBs does anyone know if there was a reason we didn't get Kalas back? I felt he was our best player at the back during the championship?


Doubt we wanted him. Dropped him for Odoi towards the end of the season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on July 13, 2019, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: filham on July 13, 2019, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 13, 2019, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: Asotosyios on July 13, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
I would like us to try to bring Piazon back. He is not in Lampard's plans and only has a year left on his contract, so he wouldn't cost crazy money (perhaps £2-2,5m?).

075.gif Just not good enough if we have any real ambition.
No we need better than Piazon and with Cav. Mitro and Kamara available he would spend most of the season bench warming.

Not saying I would sign Piazon .. but the Championship season is long and we will need a large squad. We will need backup players and if he is happy joining as a backup player then I wouldn't say no.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 13, 2019, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: filham on July 13, 2019, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 13, 2019, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: Asotosyios on July 13, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
I would like us to try to bring Piazon back. He is not in Lampard's plans and only has a year left on his contract, so he wouldn't cost crazy money (perhaps £2-2,5m?).

075.gif Just not good enough if we have any real ambition.
No we need better than Piazon and with Cav. Mitro and Kamara available he would spend most of the season bench warming.
Even better if we can replace Kamara with Knockhaert
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on July 13, 2019, 08:10:49 PM
I see Hector of Chelsea could not get in their playing 22 today. Could we be in for him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: WolverineFFC on July 13, 2019, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 13, 2019, 08:10:49 PM
I see Hector of Chelsea could not get in their playing 22 today. Could we be in for him.

He was playing for the Jamaican National Team in the Gold Cup up until about a week and a half ago. Might not be in training yet like Tim Ream.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 14, 2019, 11:51:46 AM
Looks like Seri could be going to Galatasaray
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 14, 2019, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 14, 2019, 11:51:46 AM
Looks like Seri could be going to Galatasaray

He won't (or at least not until much later on in the window when moves to Serie A and Ligue 1 are completely off the table). Said the same thing when the Mitrovic/Fenerbahce links came out. The big three teams in Turkey (Galatasaray, Fenerbahce, Besiktas) are genuinely linked with 100 players a summer and end up signing two of them, who are almost definitely the cheapest of the options available. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 14, 2019, 12:48:54 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 14, 2019, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 14, 2019, 11:51:46 AM
Looks like Seri could be going to Galatasaray

He won't (or at least not until much later on in the window when moves to Serie A and Ligue 1 are completely off the table). Said the same thing when the Mitrovic/Fenerbahce links came out. The big three teams in Turkey (Galatasaray, Fenerbahce, Besiktas) are genuinely linked with 100 players a summer and end up signing two of them, who are almost definitely the cheapest of the options available.


Totally agree, we get no-rumours they get 100's
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 14, 2019, 12:56:10 PM
There are only three teams in Turkey with large followings, and there are about 80 million Turkish people.

The Fenerbache, Galatasaray and Besiktas rumour mills are lucurative.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 14, 2019, 01:19:31 PM
Sky reporting we're looking at Reece Oxford on a season long loan.

https://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 14, 2019, 02:08:40 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 14, 2019, 01:19:31 PM
Sky reporting we're looking at Reece Oxford on a season long loan.

https://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre

All I can see is him going to Augsburg as he has dropped the relegation clause.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 14, 2019, 02:55:21 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 14, 2019, 11:51:46 AM
Looks like Seri could be going to Galatasaray
Apparently AC, Napoli and Roma interested as well
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 14, 2019, 03:56:43 PM
Oxford apparently going for 2.7m. Would happily pay that given his potential, and think he'd step straight into the team

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 14, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Steven Sess has been featured a lot on the site recently, might be Spurs wanting him that is holding up Ryan's transfer as Spurs reportedly want both.

Think this might be his season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 14, 2019, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 14, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Steven Sess has been featured a lot on the site recently, might be Spurs wanting him that is holding up Ryan's transfer as Spurs reportedly want both.

Think this might be his season.

Whatever the delay it's about money, someone with someone else.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Neutral Zone Ultra on July 14, 2019, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 14, 2019, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 14, 2019, 11:51:46 AM
Looks like Seri could be going to Galatasaray

He won't (or at least not until much later on in the window when moves to Serie A and Ligue 1 are completely off the table). Said the same thing when the Mitrovic/Fenerbahce links came out. The big three teams in Turkey (Galatasaray, Fenerbahce, Besiktas) are genuinely linked with 100 players a summer and end up signing two of them, who are almost definitely the cheapest of the options available.
This is important to note, the Turkish media are notoriously unreliable when it comes to football news
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Asotosyios on July 14, 2019, 11:30:30 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 14, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Steven Sess has been featured a lot on the site recently, might be Spurs wanting him that is holding up Ryan's transfer as Spurs reportedly want both.

Think this might be his season.

Either that or there might be no transfer for a RB and he will share the position with Christie.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on July 15, 2019, 01:23:17 PM
We're asking for £22m for Seri.

https://sempremilan.com/agent-of-seri-confirms-ac-milan-interest-reveals-price-tag
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 15, 2019, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: twang on July 15, 2019, 01:23:17 PM
We're asking for £22m for Seri.

https://sempremilan.com/agent-of-seri-confirms-ac-milan-interest-reveals-price-tag

And???
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on July 15, 2019, 01:38:11 PM
I have it on good authority that Knockaert is 'highly likely' to join before the end of the window. He has an offer in hand, Brighton gave permission for us to speak with him. Player would prefer a Prem move but interested in the club and location. Interestingly the same chap who gave me this info had some of the stats breakdown used in recruitment and somehow Kebano scores the same on the clubs indexing method as Cavaleiro...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Birmingham White on July 15, 2019, 01:52:49 PM
Knockeart would be a great signing.  Brighton journo on TalkSport said it has been left to the player to decide so I think you contact is spot on.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 15, 2019, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: twang on July 15, 2019, 01:23:17 PM
We're asking for £22m for Seri.

https://sempremilan.com/agent-of-seri-confirms-ac-milan-interest-reveals-price-tag

Jean Michaël Seri is AC Milan's latest idea to reinforce the midfield. In fact, the Ivorian midfielder has offered himself to the Rossoneri recently, as he wants to leave Championship side Fulham.

According to Sky Italia, the Frenchman remains the alternative to Jordan Veretout, though Milan have failed to reach an agreement with Fiorentina despite several meetings. Therefore, the track leading to Seri seems more and more likely.

In an interview with calciomercato.com, the player's agent Franklin Mala confirmed the Rossoneri's interest, while also revealing the Ivorian's price tag.

"We know that the media is talking a lot about Milan for Seri. At the moment, I can only say that we will see if there will be any developments, we are waiting. We will consider the opportunity if it arises.

"If Seri spoke to Kessie during international duty? I honestly don't know, but we have so many opportunities and we will choose the best for the player. Roma? Many clubs, I can't add anything else. The price tag? £22m (€24.5m)," he concluded.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 15, 2019, 02:20:28 PM
I'm not entirely sure about Knockaert, he was brilliant when Brighton went up, but he is very uneven. Think he is running the risk of becoming another Taarabt.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 15, 2019, 02:32:42 PM
Swansea have rejected a £15m bid for McBurnie from Sheffield United
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 15, 2019, 02:54:26 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 15, 2019, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: twang on July 15, 2019, 01:23:17 PM
We're asking for £22m for Seri.

https://sempremilan.com/agent-of-seri-confirms-ac-milan-interest-reveals-price-tag

Jean Michaël Seri is AC Milan's latest idea to reinforce the midfield. In fact, the Ivorian midfielder has offered himself to the Rossoneri recently, as he wants to leave Championship side Fulham.

According to Sky Italia, the Frenchman remains the alternative to Jordan Veretout, though Milan have failed to reach an agreement with Fiorentina despite several meetings. Therefore, the track leading to Seri seems more and more likely.

In an interview with calciomercato.com, the player's agent Franklin Mala confirmed the Rossoneri's interest, while also revealing the Ivorian's price tag.

"We know that the media is talking a lot about Milan for Seri. At the moment, I can only say that we will see if there will be any developments, we are waiting. We will consider the opportunity if it arises.

"If Seri spoke to Kessie during international duty? I honestly don't know, but we have so many opportunities and we will choose the best for the player. Roma? Many clubs, I can't add anything else. The price tag? £22m (€24.5m)," he concluded.

That would pretty much confirm that whatever was written on the paperwork, £22m was the de facto fee we paid for him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on July 15, 2019, 05:12:45 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 15, 2019, 02:20:28 PM
I'm not entirely sure about Knockaert, he was brilliant when Brighton went up, but he is very uneven. Think he is running the risk of becoming another Taarabt.

Taarabt only had one really good season in his career (when QPR first went up, with Warnock)... Knockaert, on the other side, was equally good at Leicester, I wanted us to sign him before he left them for Standard Liege and later on when Brighton signed him... Him, Mitro and Cavaleiro would be a lethal trio in the Champ.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 15, 2019, 05:58:45 PM
Wonder if we could try for someone on loan (or permanent) as part of a deal for Seri to reduce the price. If we're looking at the Sky report saying Milan, Napoli and Roma want him (assuming Galatasaray would be a loan) I'd try for;
Fabio Borini or Emanuele Torrasi (Milan)
Amin Younes (Napoli)
Gregoire Defrel, Rick Karsdorp, William Bianda or Keres Masangu (Roma)

Would be particularly keen on Borini given he can play anywhere and he's played in England before, but I doubt he'd want to go to the Championship.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 15, 2019, 06:56:08 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on July 15, 2019, 05:12:45 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 15, 2019, 02:20:28 PM
I'm not entirely sure about Knockaert, he was brilliant when Brighton went up, but he is very uneven. Think he is running the risk of becoming another Taarabt.

Taarabt only had one really good season in his career (when QPR first went up, with Warnock)... Knockaert, on the other side, was equally good at Leicester, I wanted us to sign him before he left them for Standard Liege and later on when Brighton signed him... Him, Mitro and Cavaleiro would be a lethal trio in the Champ.

Agreed, but then at the other end you see the state of our defence.....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: One Martin Thomas on July 15, 2019, 08:37:03 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?

I would prefer a player like this to Knockaert! Go for it Mr Khan
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on July 15, 2019, 08:37:27 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11763862/fulham-in-talks-to-sign-callum-odowda-from-bristol-city
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 15, 2019, 08:42:32 PM
They want £8 million and we won't pay!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on July 15, 2019, 08:48:32 PM
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 15, 2019, 08:42:32 PM
They want £8 million and we won't pay!
I wouldn't pay that for him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 15, 2019, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 15, 2019, 08:48:32 PM
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 15, 2019, 08:42:32 PM
They want £8 million and we won't pay!
I wouldn't pay that for him

With fees for Maguire £80 mil & Dunk £45 mil a fee of £8 mil is relatively peanuts.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on July 15, 2019, 09:07:31 PM
Proven championship player, and young, not to mention an international. Why not?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 15, 2019, 09:14:34 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 15, 2019, 08:37:27 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11763862/fulham-in-talks-to-sign-callum-odowda-from-bristol-city

Liking the fact that more and more links are coming out each day
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 15, 2019, 09:14:48 PM
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 15, 2019, 08:42:32 PM
They want £8 million and we won't pay!
Agree, we don't need to be held to ransom. Proven? isn't it just one good season? I may have missed something though I admit that.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JimOG on July 15, 2019, 09:16:06 PM
Wouldn't pay anything like that. We need to ask simple questions now - 'Is Callum Premiership material"? Answer - not a hope. I've watched him a lot playing for Ireland and just wouldn't buy him. We really need to raise our sights - these are journeymen (albeit skilful)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 15, 2019, 09:16:55 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 15, 2019, 09:14:34 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 15, 2019, 08:37:27 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11763862/fulham-in-talks-to-sign-callum-odowda-from-bristol-city

Liking the fact that more and more links are coming out each day

Having just started listening to Peter Crouch pod cast and how on deadline day he messaged a reporter saying he saw a player at the spurs training ground and how it because breaking new and the whole thing was a joke, I take sky sports rumours very loosely
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 15, 2019, 09:17:15 PM
Incidentally a few seasons back we were in for Odowda and Lundstram from Oxford (as they were at the time ) they obviously went elsewhere. Intriguing weve gone back for him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 15, 2019, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: JimOG on July 15, 2019, 09:16:06 PM
Wouldn't pay anything like that. We need to ask simple questions now - 'Is Callum Premiership material"? Answer - not a hope. I've watched him a lot playing for Ireland and just wouldn't buy him. We really need to raise our sights - these are journeymen (albeit skilful)

Ayite is probably the same standard, so no need to invest big in him. If we could broker a cheap deal, then fair enough.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PM
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 15, 2019, 09:46:05 PM
Quote from: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PM
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago

£45 million.....Games going potty.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ara's bacon crisps on July 15, 2019, 09:53:22 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
I watched him a fair bit at Oxford before he went to Bristol City. For reasons I could never fathom, they used him mostly as a sub and he made a huge difference whenever he came on. Got decent pace, a great engine, a real grafter and chipped in with plenty of goals for a regular sub. The right sort of player to be going after imho and could be a cracking addition if used properly.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: brightster on July 15, 2019, 10:03:45 PM
Fabian Delph signs 3-year deal at #efc, tells evertontv: "Every time I've played against Everton, whether home or away, straight away the first thing that comes to mind when you see the fans is passion. Hopefully we can push together, fans and players, to do something special" (From Henry Winter on Twitter), this could open the window for our target  Besic From there?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 15, 2019, 10:16:30 PM
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 15, 2019, 09:53:22 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
I watched him a fair bit at Oxford before he went to Bristol City. For reasons I could never fathom, they used him mostly as a sub and he made a huge difference whenever he came on. Got decent pace, a great engine, a real grafter and chipped in with plenty of goals for a regular sub. The right sort of player to be going after imho and could be a cracking addition if used properly.

From speaking to a few Bristol City fans it sounds like he thinks he's much better than he is. They also said and I quote
"If you give us 8m for him your owner/chairman needs checking".
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 15, 2019, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: brightster on July 15, 2019, 10:03:45 PM
Fabian Delph signs 3-year deal at #efc, tells evertontv: "Every time I've played against Everton, whether home or away, straight away the first thing that comes to mind when you see the fans is passion. Hopefully we can push together, fans and players, to do something special" (From Henry Winter on Twitter), this could open the window for our target  Besic From there?

Considering Besic was on loan for all of last season, I doubt they have much interest in keeping him, even without Delph.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 15, 2019, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 15, 2019, 10:16:30 PM
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 15, 2019, 09:53:22 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
I watched him a fair bit at Oxford before he went to Bristol City. For reasons I could never fathom, they used him mostly as a sub and he made a huge difference whenever he came on. Got decent pace, a great engine, a real grafter and chipped in with plenty of goals for a regular sub. The right sort of player to be going after imho and could be a cracking addition if used properly.

From speaking to a few Bristol City fans it sounds like he thinks he's much better than he is. They also said and I quote
"If you give us 8m for him your owner/chairman needs checking".

I was having a shitter of a day.   You made it a little better. 082.gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on July 15, 2019, 10:29:44 PM
Ayite and Kebano have a lot to prove, however they were part of our successful championship team, so know what it's all about. If we sign no more wide players i won't be overly disappointed.

I know other FoFers want the elite squad, but familiarity,  understanding and history are good qualities.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ara's bacon crisps on July 15, 2019, 10:35:12 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 15, 2019, 10:16:30 PM
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 15, 2019, 09:53:22 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
I watched him a fair bit at Oxford before he went to Bristol City. For reasons I could never fathom, they used him mostly as a sub and he made a huge difference whenever he came on. Got decent pace, a great engine, a real grafter and chipped in with plenty of goals for a regular sub. The right sort of player to be going after imho and could be a cracking addition if used properly.

From speaking to a few Bristol City fans it sounds like he thinks he's much better than he is. They also said and I quote
"If you give us 8m for him your owner/chairman needs checking".
Well, he's only a Kidlington lad. Maybe the bright lights of Bristol have turned his head.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 16, 2019, 12:03:32 AM
Quote from: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PM
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago
Something like that but short about 500k of asking price.... that would have been a shrewd investment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 16, 2019, 12:16:23 AM
Think I said it a page or two ago when the Knockaert stuff came out, I'd really like us to try for another Irish Left-Winger in Robbie Brady. Would be Set-Pieces sorted, and he'd probably be available for the right price given Burnley are likely going to have McNeil and Gudmundsson as their first choice wingers.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 16, 2019, 12:39:10 AM
Quote from: David I on July 16, 2019, 12:03:32 AM
Quote from: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PM
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago
Something like that but short about 500k of asking price.... that would have been a shrewd investment.

Mackintosh's typical negotiation technique...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 16, 2019, 12:41:41 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 16, 2019, 12:39:10 AM
Quote from: David I on July 16, 2019, 12:03:32 AM
Quote from: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PM
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago
Something like that but short about 500k of asking price.... that would have been a shrewd investment.

Mackintosh's typical negotiation technique...

David Levy will make the same mistake this season and just miss out of Sess.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 16, 2019, 12:44:41 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league

Surely, O'Dowda is a long term replacement of Kebano and Knockaert is a replacement of Sess.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league

Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 06:01:00 AM
Talksh++ saying Swansea want Mawson back.
That want happen.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 16, 2019, 06:15:20 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 06:01:00 AM
Talksh++ saying Swansea want Mawson back.
That want happen.

I should cocoa, Talk Sh++ talk sh++.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sir Craven on July 16, 2019, 09:21:47 AM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?

I reckon this could be a good signing as he played 2 seasons on the left flank with Joe Bryan at Brizzle.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 16, 2019, 10:26:36 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league

Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.

Well we have six players for our front three, Cave/Kebano,  Mitro/Fonte, and Kamara/Ayite.
That is looking pretty good to me, the weakness as is if Mitro is missing as Fonte is unlikely to be up to the task but Kamara and Ayite can do a job in that position.

Be an improvement if we could move Fonte on and get a good substitute striker like Peter Crouch for instance.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: filham on July 16, 2019, 10:26:36 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league

Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.

Well we have six players for our front three, Cave/Kebano,  Mitro/Fonte, and Kamara/Ayite.
That is looking pretty good to me, the weakness as is if Mitro is missing as Fonte is unlikely to be up to the task but Kamara and Ayite can do a job in that position.

Be an improvement if we could move Fonte on and get a good substitute striker like Peter Crouch for instance.

I'm of the opinion that Fonte was largely poor since joining us but I still think there's a technically gifted player there and maybe in a better team with pace around him, we could get more from him. I think he could be a bit of a luxury backup striker that most teams at this level won't have. On top of that we also have Taylor Crossdale whose an unknown quantity. Quick, strong and has scored goals at levels played in so could also be an unknown quality.

I do think we need more pace on wings (full backs mianly) still but we really aren't far off being quite a special team for this division.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 16, 2019, 12:31:58 PM
Sheffield United are set to enter contract talks with free agent Ravel Morrison.

Blast from the past and still only 26
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 16, 2019, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: filham on July 16, 2019, 10:26:36 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league

Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.

Well we have six players for our front three, Cave/Kebano,  Mitro/Fonte, and Kamara/Ayite.
That is looking pretty good to me, the weakness as is if Mitro is missing as Fonte is unlikely to be up to the task but Kamara and Ayite can do a job in that position.

Be an improvement if we could move Fonte on and get a good substitute striker like Peter Crouch for instance.

I'm of the opinion that Fonte was largely poor since joining us but I still think there's a technically gifted player there and maybe in a better team with pace around him, we could get more from him. I think he could be a bit of a luxury backup striker that most teams at this level won't have. On top of that we also have Taylor Crossdale whose an unknown quantity. Quick, strong and has scored goals at levels played in so could also be an unknown quality.

I do think we need more pace on wings (full backs mianly) still but we really aren't far off being quite a special team for this division.

I don't see Fonte as a forward or a winger, more like a Gera playing just behind the forward or in Cairney's  current position. Think he may be a useful back up to Cairney moving forward but certainly not a starter.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 16, 2019, 01:44:50 PM
Spurs being linked with Gareth Bale , if this happens where does it leave Ryan Sessegnon ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 16, 2019, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: filham on July 16, 2019, 10:26:36 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league

Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.

Well we have six players for our front three, Cave/Kebano,  Mitro/Fonte, and Kamara/Ayite.
That is looking pretty good to me, the weakness as is if Mitro is missing as Fonte is unlikely to be up to the task but Kamara and Ayite can do a job in that position.

Be an improvement if we could move Fonte on and get a good substitute striker like Peter Crouch for instance.

I'm of the opinion that Fonte was largely poor since joining us but I still think there's a technically gifted player there and maybe in a better team with pace around him, we could get more from him. I think he could be a bit of a luxury backup striker that most teams at this level won't have. On top of that we also have Taylor Crossdale whose an unknown quantity. Quick, strong and has scored goals at levels played in so could also be an unknown quality.

I do think we need more pace on wings (full backs mianly) still but we really aren't far off being quite a special team for this division.

I don't see Fonte as a forward or a winger, more like a Gera playing just behind the forward or in Cairney's  current position. Think he may be a useful back up to Cairney moving forward but certainly not a starter.

Fonte is a striker, always has been. he might do a job there or looked like potentially he could play there but hes a striker.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on July 16, 2019, 04:31:32 PM
Seri linked to a loan deal at Galatasaray in Turkey. Shame I wanted money for him now. Option to buy
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on July 16, 2019, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 16, 2019, 04:31:32 PM
Seri linked to a loan deal at Galatasaray in Turkey. Shame I wanted money for him now. Option to buy

urgh. This would be a bit pointless from our perspective. We need some transfer cash to make our own signings.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 16, 2019, 05:14:53 PM
Quote from: jelmo on July 16, 2019, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 16, 2019, 04:31:32 PM
Seri linked to a loan deal at Galatasaray in Turkey. Shame I wanted money for him now. Option to buy

urgh. This would be a bit pointless from our perspective. We need some transfer cash to make our own signings.
Seri's agent said he was in Italy talking to clubs, they were perm deals from what i read. The club should not loan him, sells him or keep him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ealex40 on July 16, 2019, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: filham on July 16, 2019, 10:26:36 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league

Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.

Well we have six players for our front three, Cave/Kebano,  Mitro/Fonte, and Kamara/Ayite.
That is looking pretty good to me, the weakness as is if Mitro is missing as Fonte is unlikely to be up to the task but Kamara and Ayite can do a job in that position.

Be an improvement if we could move Fonte on and get a good substitute striker like Peter Crouch for instance.

I'm of the opinion that Fonte was largely poor since joining us but I still think there's a technically gifted player there and maybe in a better team with pace around him, we could get more from him. I think he could be a bit of a luxury backup striker that most teams at this level won't have. On top of that we also have Taylor Crossdale whose an unknown quantity. Quick, strong and has scored goals at levels played in so could also be an unknown quality.

I do think we need more pace on wings (full backs mianly) still but we really aren't far off being quite a special team for this division.

Peter Crouch has retired.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 05:17:56 PM
Wonder how much of a stumbling block Okasaki wages would be....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 16, 2019, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 16, 2019, 01:44:50 PM
Spurs being linked with Gareth Bale , if this happens where does it leave Ryan Sessegnon ?

Doesn't change anything IMO. Bale will be a target for the Spurs first team. Sessegnon is a target for their reserves/u23 team.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 16, 2019, 06:21:01 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 16, 2019, 12:39:10 AM
Quote from: David I on July 16, 2019, 12:03:32 AM
Quote from: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PM
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago
Something like that but short about 500k of asking price.... that would have been a shrewd investment.

Mackintosh's typical negotiation technique...

I think it turned that Dunk used us to get a better contract.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 16, 2019, 06:42:03 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 05:17:56 PM
Wonder how much of a stumbling block Okasaki wages would be....
He is leaving Leicester as he wants first team football, would he get that here? Otherwise not a bad shout if we can afford them wages
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 16, 2019, 07:32:38 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 16, 2019, 06:42:03 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 05:17:56 PM
Wonder how much of a stumbling block Okasaki wages would be....
He is leaving Leicester as he wants first team football, would he get that here? Otherwise not a bad shout if we can afford them wages



Hes 33, cant see TK signing that one off
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: I Ronic on July 16, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 16, 2019, 07:32:38 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 16, 2019, 06:42:03 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 05:17:56 PM
Wonder how much of a stumbling block Okasaki wages would be....
He is leaving Leicester as he wants first team football, would he get that here? Otherwise not a bad shout if we can afford them wages



Hes 33, cant see TK signing that one off

A season long loan?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 16, 2019, 08:48:28 PM
Ryan Babel wasn't exactly a spring chicken when signed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 16, 2019, 09:39:51 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 16, 2019, 08:48:28 PM
Ryan Babel wasn't exactly a spring chicken when signed.

It was a loan & the club were in a desperate situation
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ara's bacon crisps on July 16, 2019, 09:53:07 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league

Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.
:plus one:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 16, 2019, 10:43:28 PM
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 16, 2019, 09:53:07 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league

Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.
:plus one:

Your right mince, he is different gravy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.

Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 08:10:32 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.

Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave

This was from get French football news on twitter who seems to be pretty spot on when comes to transfers but we shall see
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.

Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave

At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.

Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave

At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are keeping Cisse at 13k per week , Kebano at 13k per week and McDonald at 22k per week, surely Seri at 35k is good value.
Don't disagree, for me it should be a permanent move or we keep him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 08:59:19 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.

Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave

At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are keeping Cisse at 13k per week , Kebano at 13k per week and McDonald at 22k per week, surely Seri at 35k is good value.

I think the problem is he isn't a bench player, he will want first team football and his agent will be looking for that
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:59:41 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 08:10:32 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.

Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave

This was from get French football news on twitter who seems to be pretty spot on when comes to transfers but we shall see
I have only seen the story in the turkish press which is what I based my comment on, didn't know where yours was from
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 17, 2019, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.

Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave

At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.

If you were Seri and you were as good as you thought you were, would you want to be a "a damm good bench player in the Championship"?!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 09:12:46 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 17, 2019, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.

Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave

At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.

If you were Seri and you were as good as you thought you were, would you want to be a "a damm good bench player in the Championship"?!!

If I thought I was good enough to make AC Milan XI, then i would surely think i'm good enough to come off the bench and dislodge Cairney from the Fulham's first XI.

I cannot believe what I'm hearing, Seri wants to leave Fulham as a bench player to get first team football at AC Milan. I dreamed of the day that players would leave the Fulham Squad to get First Team Football at AC Milan, but that day hasn't yet come. If that day has come has Parker has made a huge mistake not placing Seri ahead of Cairney, as there is no way Cairney would make AC Milan First XI.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 17, 2019, 09:25:45 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 09:12:46 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 17, 2019, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.

Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave

At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.

If you were Seri and you were as good as you thought you were, would you want to be a "a damm good bench player in the Championship"?!!

If I thought I was good enough to make AC Milan XI, then i would surely think i'm good enough to come off the bench and dislodge Cairney from the Fulham's first XI.

I cannot believe what I'm hearing, Seri wants to leave Fulham as a bench player to get first team football at AC Milan. I dreamed of the day that players would leave the Fulham Squad to get First Team Football at AC Milan, but that day hasn't yet come. If that day has come has Parker has made a huge mistake not placing Seri ahead of Cairney.

He's a better player than Cairney. When he fancied it he was a superb player, he just clearly doesn't want to be here. It's a real shame. I just hope we can get our money back and move on.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: southwest6 on July 17, 2019, 09:49:59 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 09:12:46 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 17, 2019, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.



Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave

At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.

If you were Seri and you were as good as you thought you were, would you want to be a "a damm good bench player in the Championship"?!!

If I thought I was good enough to make AC Milan XI, then i would surely think i'm good enough to come off the bench and dislodge Cairney from the Fulham's first XI.

I cannot believe what I'm hearing, Seri wants to leave Fulham as a bench player to get first team football at AC Milan. I dreamed of the day that players would leave the Fulham Squad to get First Team Football at AC Milan, but that day hasn't yet come. If that day has come has Parker has made a huge mistake not placing Seri ahead of Cairney, as there is no way Cairney would make AC Milan First XI.

Seri on his day is a far better player than Cairney. He showed (albeit on very few occasions) football ability which would merit a starting place in most top clubs;  I simply don't believe he wanted to come here in the first place and clearly lacked motivation, although I felt people were often a bit too harsh on the guy. Cairney however is Fulham through and through and would much rather have him play ahead of Seri. Ability alone doesn't necessarily guarantee you a spot in the starting 11.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 10:14:18 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 17, 2019, 09:25:45 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 09:12:46 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 17, 2019, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AM
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
That is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.

Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.

Clearly he will leave

At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.

If you were Seri and you were as good as you thought you were, would you want to be a "a damm good bench player in the Championship"?!!

If I thought I was good enough to make AC Milan XI, then i would surely think i'm good enough to come off the bench and dislodge Cairney from the Fulham's first XI.

I cannot believe what I'm hearing, Seri wants to leave Fulham as a bench player to get first team football at AC Milan. I dreamed of the day that players would leave the Fulham Squad to get First Team Football at AC Milan, but that day hasn't yet come. If that day has come has Parker has made a huge mistake not placing Seri ahead of Cairney.

He's a better player than Cairney. When he fancied it he was a superb player, he just clearly doesn't want to be here. It's a real shame. I just hope we can get our money back and move on.

If Seri really wants to leave he can agree to slash his salary to a mear £10k per week for the right club. If Seri's wages are 500k per year, I think then many clubs would be offerring a transfer fee that would interest Fulham in the 15-25 million range. Its all a question of how bad Seri wants to leave, will he sacfrice £10m of his own money to leave.

A deal where AC Milan pays Fulham £1.5 million and Fulham pays Seri £2.5 million is a rip off. AC Milan couldn't afford his "wages and transfer fee" last year, they aren't getting him at Fulham's expense this year.

Frankly, Seri can miss preseason with us, trialing everywhere else to get a transfer until the 2nd September when all transfer windows close. After that he has to return to training at Fulham for his £2.5m per year and then decide if he wants to sulk or earn his spot in the matchday 18. Once he realises his short-term future is at Fulham (and he'll realise in September) he will apply himself at trying to grap KMac, Johasen or Cairney spot in the XI weeks later.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 17, 2019, 10:36:40 AM
Seri was not a better player than Cairney for Fulham last season (once Cairney was up to speed after his injury).

We paid a lot of money for Seri and he was seriously disappointing. He may be a quality player going on his past record but he was very ordinary for us and looked as though he could not motivate himself let alone the team as we should have expected. We should try to recoup as much of that outlay as possible with a sale.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 10:14:18 AM

If Seri really wants to leave he can agree to slash his salary to a mear £10k per week for the right club. If Seri's wages are 500k per year, I think then many clubs would be offerring a transfer fee that would interest Fulham in the 15-25 million range. Its all a question of how bad Seri wants to leave, will he sacfrice £10m of his own money to leave.

A deal where AC Milan pays Fulham £1.5 million and Fulham pays Seri £2.5 million is a rip off. AC Milan couldn't afford his "wages and transfer fee" last year, they aren't getting him at Fulham's expense this year.

Frankly, Seri can miss preseason with us, trialing everywhere else to get a transfer until the 2nd September when all transfer windows close. After that he has to return to training at Fulham for his £2.5m per year and then decide if he wants to sulk or earn his spot in the matchday 18. Once he realises his short-term future is at Fulham (and he'll realise in September) he will apply himself at trying to grap KMac, Johasen or Cairney spot in the XI weeks later.

Do you mean that Milan would pay a 1,5 million loan fee but then not pay any of Seri's wages? Surely they would pay the loan fee + wages (or at the very least most of them)?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 17, 2019, 02:01:05 PM
West Brom agree 8 million fee with Cardiff for Zohore
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 02:06:55 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 02:01:05 PM
West Brom agree 8 million fee with Cardiff for Zohore

Remember when Zohore was the hottest player in the Championship two years back? Amazing how quickly his stock has fallen.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on July 17, 2019, 02:49:30 PM
Rose will be reintegrated into the squad if he cannot find a new club this summer but Spurs remain favourites to sign Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon, who can play left-back. The deal is being delayed by the Cottagers' desire for a Tottenham player in part-exchange for the teenager.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham/tottenham-unlikely-to-sign-kieran-trippier-replacement-as-20m-departure-sparks-internal-battle-a4191941.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1563358458
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 17, 2019, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 02:06:55 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 02:01:05 PM
West Brom agree 8 million fee with Cardiff for Zohore

Remember when Zohore was the hottest player in the Championship two years back? Amazing how quickly his stock has fallen.
Yep
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2019, 02:59:56 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 17, 2019, 02:49:30 PM
Rose will be reintegrated into the squad if he cannot find a new club this summer but Spurs remain favourites to sign Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon, who can play left-back. The deal is being delayed by the Cottagers' desire for a Tottenham player in part-exchange for the teenager.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham/tottenham-unlikely-to-sign-kieran-trippier-replacement-as-20m-departure-sparks-internal-battle-a4191941.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1563358458

Said all along I want Nkoudou as part of the deal. Would be a like for like replacement and sort us for Wingers for the season. Parker should have a detailed knowledge of any potential Spurs kids on loan as well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 17, 2019, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 17, 2019, 02:49:30 PM
Rose will be reintegrated into the squad if he cannot find a new club this summer but Spurs remain favourites to sign Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon, who can play left-back. The deal is being delayed by the Cottagers' desire for a Tottenham player in part-exchange for the teenager.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham/tottenham-unlikely-to-sign-kieran-trippier-replacement-as-20m-departure-sparks-internal-battle-a4191941.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1563358458
English media can fabricate with the best of them.

If Seri is as good as everyone says ....

* Why isn't he already gone?
* Why didn't Scott play him ahead of Cairney or Anguissa?
* Why doesn't he start for his national team?

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 17, 2019, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 17, 2019, 02:49:30 PM
Rose will be reintegrated into the squad if he cannot find a new club this summer but Spurs remain favourites to sign Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon, who can play left-back. The deal is being delayed by the Cottagers' desire for a Tottenham player in part-exchange for the teenager.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham/tottenham-unlikely-to-sign-kieran-trippier-replacement-as-20m-departure-sparks-internal-battle-a4191941.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1563358458
English media can fabricate with the best of them.

If Seri is as good as everyone says ....

* Why isn't he already gone?
* Why didn't Scott play him ahead of Cairney or Anguissa?
* Why doesn't he start for his national team?

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First off, the reason Seri is not gone may be because the involved parties (seller, buyer, player) have still not agreed. It doesn't have to have anything to do with how good the player is.

Secondly, SP could have had many reasons as why he didn't play Seri. Maybe he didn't fancy his style of play, or his work rate. Maybe he meant to play him but was then so impressed by Anguissa so that he didn't want to change. Again, doesn't have to mean that Seri is not good, it just means that for some reason SP preferred other players at that particular time.

Thirdly, the reasons can be the same as above. But mostly it is probably because he didn't impress in the first few games (in which he did start). This can happen also to good players, especially coming of a bad season and most likely very low in confidence.

In conclusion, you are looking at a far too limited period of time to make a reasonable assessment, coupled with seemingly lacking the understanding of the (at least some times) complex nature of football transfers. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 17, 2019, 04:37:30 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.
I hope that Anguissa stays as he will be a key player for us. He had a few MOTM awards in the AFCON tournament.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 17, 2019, 04:52:17 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 04:37:30 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.
I hope that Anguissa stays as he will be a key player for us. He had a few MOTM awards in the AFCON tournament.
Yes,I agree that Anguissa looks as if he has some of the qualities of a  talented player although Parker has to do an amount of work on him to ensure reliability. The big questions are can we afford him and will he want to play in the championship. May be easier to ship him out and buy the ready made product we can afford.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarvenpa on July 17, 2019, 05:12:46 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 04:52:17 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 04:37:30 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.
I hope that Anguissa stays as he will be a key player for us. He had a few MOTM awards in the AFCON tournament.
Yes,I agree that Anguissa looks as if he has some of the qualities of a  talented player although Parker has to do an amount of work on him to ensure reliability. The big questions are can we afford him and will he want to play in the championship. May be easier to ship him out and buy the ready made product we can afford.

I think he has agreed to stay, thinking of the new kit and all.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2019, 05:19:01 PM
I'd be surprised if we let Zambo go. Parker obviously likes him because he started him in pretty much every game since he came in (unlike Seri). I don't even think there's been proper a link with him going elsewhere (I know there was that Villarreal thing, but you'd have thought something more would've come from that by now if it was serious) and we're in Mid-July.

And of course, we've got no chance of getting anything close to the money we paid for him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on July 17, 2019, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.
why anguissa, he prob stay
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 17, 2019, 05:42:20 PM
Southampton have told Charlie Austin and keeper Alex McCarthy that they are free to speak to other clubs,
Charlie's wife "Bianca" tweeted "I miss London" the other day,
Charlie might be 30 but he would be great cover for Mitro next season, and McCarthy is a far better keeper than any we have.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 17, 2019, 06:04:20 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.

Personally I'd keep anguissa
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Is there money on the table or is it just chat.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Is there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.

It is a loan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Is there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.

It is a loan.

Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Is there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.

It is a loan.

Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.

If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 17, 2019, 06:25:20 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 03:20:25 PM


In conclusion, you are looking at a far too limited period of time to make a reasonable assessment, coupled with seemingly lacking the understanding of the (at least some times) complex nature of football transfers. In my opinion.

Oh...I agree with your assessment of my understanding of the complex nature of football transfers 100%.   I'm coming in late to football (European).

We'll see how it shakes out over the next 3 weeks to see if my ignorant evaluation of what I see pans out.



Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mrmicawbers on July 17, 2019, 06:31:48 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Is there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.

It is a loan.

Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.

If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.
wages covered and a loan fee on top I would assume.Better that than selling him for a lot less than what we paid for him as his get amortized over the length of his contract.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mrmicawbers on July 17, 2019, 06:32:39 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on July 17, 2019, 06:31:48 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Is there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.

It is a loan.

Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.

If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.
wages covered and a loan fee on top I would assume.Better that than selling him for a lot less than what we paid for him as his get amortized over the length of his contract.
Fee
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 17, 2019, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Is there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.

It is a loan.

Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.

If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.

It gets him off the wage bill and removes a possible bad apple if he is unhappy so I think its the right move
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 17, 2019, 06:33:23 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Is there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.

It is a loan.

Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.

If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.

He does not want to play for Fulham, especially in the Championship, so no good as cover especially if he is on big wages. So get rid of , loan or whatever.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 17, 2019, 07:07:46 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Is there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.

It is a loan.

Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.

If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.

We have enough midfielders plus youngsters with possibly another coming in.

A loan might be good if Seri recovers his form and confidence. He then might merit a decent sale price or rejoin us refreshed in the PL. I would hope we get several million plus cover for his wages.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 17, 2019, 07:33:59 PM
The loan fee is a paltry £1.7 million with an option to buy at £18 million.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 17, 2019, 06:25:20 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 03:20:25 PM


In conclusion, you are looking at a far too limited period of time to make a reasonable assessment, coupled with seemingly lacking the understanding of the (at least some times) complex nature of football transfers. In my opinion.

Oh...I agree with your assessment of my understanding of the complex nature of football transfers 100%.   I'm coming in late to football (European).

We'll see how it shakes out over the next 3 weeks to see if my ignorant evaluation of what I see pans out.

When I read my post I realize that I come off as kind of a douche. That was not my intention. I have no more experience of player transfers than most others here, including you (that will say, I have no experience). I just wanted to point out that any transaction in any business that should make at least three parties reasonably happy can often take quite some time to carry out. Thus, it should not be seen as an indicator of the worth of the asset in question. It is not as if more valuable assets necessarily is moved quicker.

Sorry if I appeared condescending.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 17, 2019, 07:33:59 PM
The loan fee is a paltry £1.7 million with an option to buy at £18 million.

Sounds fairly good to get his wages of our books for a season, with a combined transfer fee of almost £20 million if the option is exercised. This would mean we basically got back what we paid (assuming we paid something a bit north of £20 million, and also taking into account he has already played one year with us).

Good business if he didn't want to be here or if we didn't want him to be here.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Captain Fulhamerica on July 17, 2019, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 17, 2019, 07:33:59 PM
The loan fee is a paltry £1.7 million with an option to buy at £18 million.
I saw 2m, but that may have been in Euros. It sounds like they're covering his full wages though, which is really the point of loaning him out.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2019, 08:27:29 PM
Doesn't loaning Seri out also mean we're still paying whatever we're paying a year in amortisation for his transfer fee in an FFP sense over the length of his contract rather than taking a loss all at once? Given he still has a contract with us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 17, 2019, 08:32:57 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 17, 2019, 07:33:59 PM
The loan fee is a paltry £1.7 million with an option to buy at £18 million.

Sounds fairly good to get his wages of our books for a season, with a combined transfer fee of almost £20 million if the option is exercised. This would mean we basically got back what we paid (assuming we paid something a bit north of £20 million, and also taking into account he has already played one year with us).

Good business if he didn't want to be here or if we didn't want him to be here.

Doubt they will every sign him permanently their highest transfer fee over the last few years is about 12m
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bracken White on July 17, 2019, 11:14:10 PM
There is a report that Arsenal are interested in Seri - surely more lucrative than the Galatasarey offering.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM
Quote from: Nero on July 17, 2019, 08:32:57 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 17, 2019, 07:33:59 PM
The loan fee is a paltry £1.7 million with an option to buy at £18 million.

Sounds fairly good to get his wages of our books for a season, with a combined transfer fee of almost £20 million if the option is exercised. This would mean we basically got back what we paid (assuming we paid something a bit north of £20 million, and also taking into account he has already played one year with us).

Good business if he didn't want to be here or if we didn't want him to be here.

Doubt they will every sign him permanently their highest transfer fee over the last few years is about 12m

If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.

Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.

We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.

Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.

The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 18, 2019, 07:11:47 AM
It's been mentioned with Sessegnon that we're after a player in Spurs' deal.

Players reportedly available are Cameron Carter-Vickers, Wanyama, Edwards, Onomah, Nkoulou and Janssen.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BigbadBillyMcKinley on July 18, 2019, 07:22:15 AM
Wouldn't mind Wanyama. He's beast the Championship. Can't see him droppings league tho.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 18, 2019, 07:26:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 18, 2019, 07:11:47 AM
It's been mentioned with Sessegnon that we're after a player in Spurs' deal.

Players reportedly available are Cameron Carter-Vickers, Wanyama, Edwards, Onomah, Nkoulou and Janssen.
If correct then it wont be Wantama or Jansen and both are mega high wage earners. Others are all youngsters i think although never heard of Nkoulou
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:19:52 AM
Wanyama would be superb in the Championship (and a very good asset if we are promoted), but as others mention the wages might be a big problem.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM

If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.

Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.

We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.

Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.

The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.

What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.

This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM

If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.

Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.

We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.

Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.

The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.

What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.

This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?

Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AM

Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.

I think the article did not mention the wages because it is most likely always assumed that wages are included. Only reason to mention it is if wages are being retained in some form by the parent club. So no, this is not at all bad assuming that he was not seen as a starter for us. Much better than selling at a reduced rate.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 18, 2019, 09:05:27 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AM

Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.

I think the article did not mention the wages because it is most likely always assumed that wages are included. Only reason to mention it is if wages are being retained in some form by the parent club. So no, this is not at all bad assuming that he was not seen as a starter for us. Much better than selling at a reduced rate.

What is McDonald's and Seri's wage?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 09:14:28 AM
Wanyama is too good for championship and i'd suspect would be too good for us even in Prem. He'll be at a champions league club abroad I imagine. Been pitching him for years!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 18, 2019, 09:39:42 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM

If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.

Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.

We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.

Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.

The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.

What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.

This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?

Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
The issue I have with a loan is that we seem to have a past history of contributing to the wages of high earners we loan out, Ruiz and Mitroglu spring to mind, of course only news paper speculation but guess that's the same as fees etc too
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 09:45:30 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 18, 2019, 09:39:42 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM

If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.

Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.

We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.

Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.

The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.

What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.

This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?

Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
The issue I have with a loan is that we seem to have a past history of contributing to the wages of high earners we loan out, Ruiz and Mitroglu spring to mind, of course only news paper speculation but guess that's the same as fees etc too

I hope we are not contributing to Seri's wages like we have done in the past.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 09:51:59 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 09:45:30 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 18, 2019, 09:39:42 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM

If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.

Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.

We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.

Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.

The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.

What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.

This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?

Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
The issue I have with a loan is that we seem to have a past history of contributing to the wages of high earners we loan out, Ruiz and Mitroglu spring to mind, of course only news paper speculation but guess that's the same as fees etc too

I hope we are not contributing to Seri's wages like we have done in the past.

I dont see why we would.  Where would the sense be in that? He's still highly rated so there would almost certainly be clubs willing to pay 100% of his wages
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 10:27:36 AM
Gala released pictures on their twitter page of Seri arriving in Turkey. Will probably be finalised today or tomorrow then.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 18, 2019, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 09:51:59 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 09:45:30 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 18, 2019, 09:39:42 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM

If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.

Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.

We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.

Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.

The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.

What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.

This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?

Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
The issue I have with a loan is that we seem to have a past history of contributing to the wages of high earners we loan out, Ruiz and Mitroglu spring to mind, of course only news paper speculation but guess that's the same as fees etc too

I hope we are not contributing to Seri's wages like we have done in the past.

I dont see why we would.  Where would the sense be in that? He's still highly rated so there would almost certainly be clubs willing to pay 100% of his wages
Most said the same about Ruiz and Mitroglu. Like him or not Mitro had a record that was great and went on loan and scored for who he went too, one of those being the club we signed him from but they didn't pay his whole wage, problem is we pay higher here and others cant afford to match them.

It is why I do not like us loaning players like this out, sell them or make them play
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 18, 2019, 11:09:17 AM
In fairness to TK, his apparent obstinance and arrogance (eg refusal to accept criticism for last season) often annoy me but at times like this they're useful traits. I'm quite sure he'll firmly believe that Seri is worth every penny we paid for him. So IMO he won't sell or loan him on terms that leave us out of pocket.

If we sell him, TK will want to recover most of his book value, and if we loan him, TK will want to recover his wages plus a portion the amount by which his book value will amortize in the year.

In reality, I doubt we'll get a loan fee to cover the amortization (£5m?) but the price at which Gala can exercise any option to buy will probably be higher than his book value next year (£10m?) to compensate. So something like a loan fee of £2m (plus Gala pay his wages) and option to buy at £13m next year would seem reasonable to me.

That wouldn't leave us out of pocket.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !

No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:15:25 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !

No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
why would we want him if Middlesbrough dont tho
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:15:25 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !

No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
why would we want him if Middlesbrough dont tho

Well, also, according to some here, Boro have a history of selling their best players and best rated RB's in the league so....... 086.gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 18, 2019, 11:21:23 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:15:25 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !

No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
why would we want him if Middlesbrough dont tho

Well, also, according to some here, Boro have a history of selling their best players and best rated RB's in the league so....... 086.gif

Cardiff should not concede many from corners, proper Warnock signing that
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2019, 11:42:21 AM
Wanted to return to SW,family reasons.
He was 5 years at  Bristol.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
Surprised theres actually players out there that dobt mind moving to live in Cardiff lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !

No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!

Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF.  064.gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 18, 2019, 11:52:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 18, 2019, 07:11:47 AM
It's been mentioned with Sessegnon that we're after a player in Spurs' deal.

Players reportedly available are Cameron Carter-Vickers, Wanyama, Edwards, Onomah, Nkoulou and Janssen.

I'm assuming it would be one of the youth players that Parker rates from his time with their u18s.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !

No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!

Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF.  064.gif

Never underestimate the Aden Flint appreciation society.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !

No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!

Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF.  064.gif

Never underestimate the Aden Flint appreciation society.

Exactly what we need but there's others
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 12:04:06 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !

No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!

Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF.  064.gif

Never underestimate the Aden Flint appreciation society.

Exactly what we need but there's others

here they come!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Buffalo76 on July 18, 2019, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
Surprised theres actually players out there that dobt mind moving to live in Cardiff lol



Can't be any worse than living in Middlesbrough!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GloucesterWhite on July 18, 2019, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 18, 2019, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
Surprised theres actually players out there that dobt mind moving to live in Cardiff lol

Can't be any worse than living in Middlesbrough!!

How true - my mother-in-law lives there    :031:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Oakeshott on July 18, 2019, 03:52:22 PM
Players who play for Middlesborough can easily afford to live in delightful spots nearby, such as Yarm.

I don't suppose many Liverpool players live in Toxteth or off Scottie Road.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ealex40 on July 18, 2019, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on July 18, 2019, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 18, 2019, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
Surprised theres actually players out there that dobt mind moving to live in Cardiff lol

Can't be any worse than living in Middlesbrough!!

How true - my mother-in-law lives there    :031:
Could be worse.
Do you know the penalty for bigamy?
Two mothers-in-law.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 18, 2019, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 12:04:06 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !

No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!

Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF.  064.gif

Never underestimate the Aden Flint appreciation society.

Exactly what we need but there's others

here they come!

He's right though. If we're aiming to play slightly more direct this year and actually have a decent defence, Flint would have been perfect, and available now, in time for the half our pre-season, at a good price. I'm highly sceptical that we'll do any better.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 04:18:54 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2019, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 12:04:06 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !

No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!

Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF.  064.gif

Never underestimate the Aden Flint appreciation society.

Exactly what we need but there's others

here they come!

He's right though. If we're aiming to play slightly more direct this year and actually have a decent defence, Flint would have been perfect, and available now, in time for the half our pre-season, at a good price. I'm highly sceptical that we'll do any better.

See, I told you there was a Aden Flint appreciation society.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business
Our problems still appear to be the defensive part of our team (defence & midfield) - these are the types of recruitment I would have liked for our Championship season!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 18, 2019, 04:35:35 PM
There will be no signing to day as Tony is writing his birthday card for his dad
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Wingnut on July 18, 2019, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business

Cardiff are going to do really well this season. Had a really good Championship standard squad already and they've added to it. Automatic promotion for anyone who finishes ahead of them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on July 18, 2019, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business

Cardiff are going to do really well this season. Had a really good Championship standard squad already and they've added to it. Automatic promotion for anyone who finishes ahead of them.

Are Cardiff or Huddersfield more attractive than us? Not by a long shot. So why can they get CBs in and we dont seem to be able to?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Wingnut on July 18, 2019, 05:01:23 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on July 18, 2019, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business

Cardiff are going to do really well this season. Had a really good Championship standard squad already and they've added to it. Automatic promotion for anyone who finishes ahead of them.

Are Cardiff or Huddersfield more attractive than us? Not by a long shot. So why can they get CBs in and we dont seem to be able to?

Totally agree that we would be the most attractive option out of the three. Flint doesn't fit into our recruitment model for some reason. He's 30, so it could be down to his age. Don't know or understand why we can't sign players like him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 18, 2019, 05:03:53 PM
I'm sure Cardiff and Huddersfield fans said similar things when we signed Mawson. I know that the Burnley boards were in meltdown mode.

I'm pretty certain that a CB is high on the list of priorities and I'd be surprised if we didn't sign anyone.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 05:08:37 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on July 18, 2019, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business

Cardiff are going to do really well this season. Had a really good Championship standard squad already and they've added to it. Automatic promotion for anyone who finishes ahead of them.

I'm not entirely convinced by Cardiff, but they won't be far off playoffs at a minimum. I don't see them challenging top 2.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 18, 2019, 05:03:53 PM
I'm sure Cardiff and Huddersfield fans said similar things when we signed Mawson. I know that the Burnley boards were in meltdown mode.

I'm pretty certain that a CB is high on the list of priorities and I'd be surprised if we didn't sign anyone.

Location wise we are much more attractive.
We have arguably the best striker in the league.

Maybe players are scared to join fulham in a defensive role after how bad we were defensively last year.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 18, 2019, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 05:08:37 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on July 18, 2019, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business

Cardiff are going to do really well this season. Had a really good Championship standard squad already and they've added to it. Automatic promotion for anyone who finishes ahead of them.

I'm not entirely convinced by Cardiff, but they won't be far off playoffs at a minimum. I don't see them challenging top 2.

Agreed. We are much better on paper and "should" finish well above them. Although that has been the case for the last two seasons and we still finished below them both years.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!

Agree 100%, we've had since April (arguably January) to identify and sign defenders yet still nothing. Our defence has been our Achilles heel for a long time and if we don't get a CB (RB too I think) with at least a friendly match to spare then we have failed to adequately prepare once again. I'm sure the transfer market has it complexities but it seems to me that more should have been done sooner.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!

Agree 100%, we've had since April (arguably January) to identify and sign defenders yet still nothing. Our defence has been our Achilles heel for a long time and if we don't get a CB (RB too I think) with at least a friendly match to spare then we have failed to adequately prepare once again. I'm sure the transfer market has it complexities but it seems to me that more should have been done sooner.

And how comes plenty of other clubs have managed to get defenders in? Huddersfield, Cardiff, Brentford to name a few
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 18, 2019, 06:37:16 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!

Agree 100%, we've had since April (arguably January) to identify and sign defenders yet still nothing. Our defence has been our Achilles heel for a long time and if we don't get a CB (RB too I think) with at least a friendly match to spare then we have failed to adequately prepare once again. I'm sure the transfer market has it complexities but it seems to me that more should have been done sooner.

And how comes plenty of other clubs have managed to get defenders in? Huddersfield, Cardiff, Brentford to name a few
But are they better than who we have now? We are in the market to get better players not more of the same. Better CB´s are hard to find.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 18, 2019, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2019, 06:37:16 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!

Agree 100%, we've had since April (arguably January) to identify and sign defenders yet still nothing. Our defence has been our Achilles heel for a long time and if we don't get a CB (RB too I think) with at least a friendly match to spare then we have failed to adequately prepare once again. I'm sure the transfer market has it complexities but it seems to me that more should have been done sooner.

And how comes plenty of other clubs have managed to get defenders in? Huddersfield, Cardiff, Brentford to name a few
But are they better than who we have now? We are in the market to get better players not more of the same. Better CB´s are hard to find.

You got 2 up the road in Hector & Tomori, both player of the year at their loan clubs
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 18, 2019, 07:35:16 PM
We wont know if he's available for loan for another few weeks... But Tuanzebe from United would be a good get. Not sure if Villa still want him and United might be more keen to deal with a championship side rather than an epl side. If they get Maguire Axel would be their 6th in line Cb behind Mag, Jones, Lindelof, Billy and Smalling. I'm not even including Rojo.

Sent from my BND-L34 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 18, 2019, 08:22:42 PM
Jones is available apparently, rumoured to have been offered to West Ham when they wanted to do a PX for someone
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on July 18, 2019, 08:30:34 PM
I happen to think we'll have the best centre back and  the best/one of the best left full backs in the league. Its only my opinion but with a full pre season and fully fit, Alfie will be a beast in this league.

I think we have a great spine. I cant get Barnsley tickets until Monday (general sale) but I think some on here may get a bit of a shock at how good we are.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 08:33:16 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 18, 2019, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2019, 06:37:16 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!

Agree 100%, we've had since April (arguably January) to identify and sign defenders yet still nothing. Our defence has been our Achilles heel for a long time and if we don't get a CB (RB too I think) with at least a friendly match to spare then we have failed to adequately prepare once again. I'm sure the transfer market has it complexities but it seems to me that more should have been done sooner.

And how comes plenty of other clubs have managed to get defenders in? Huddersfield, Cardiff, Brentford to name a few
But are they better than who we have now? We are in the market to get better players not more of the same. Better CB´s are hard to find.

You got 2 up the road in Hector & Tomori, both player of the year at their loan clubs

Exactly the type of players we should be looking at and now that Seri has gone it should free up wages and we've probably got a small loan fee that can go towards other deals. We need good quality defender(s) in ASAP so they can hit the ground running.

(Apologies if this sounds like a moan - it's wasnt intended that way)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 18, 2019, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on July 18, 2019, 08:30:34 PM
I happen to think we'll have the best centre back and  the best/one of the best left full backs in the league. Its only my opinion but with a full pre season and fully fit, Alfie will be a beast in this league.

I think we have a great spine. I cant get Barnsley tickets until Monday (general sale) but I think some on here may get a bit of a shock at how good we are.

I'm going to say this.

Alfie Mawson, even if he can stay healthy, will only be as good as his partnered right sided CB.   Alfie is vocal, can play the ball in the air...and is physical.    He needs a VERY good partner to bring out the best of him.   

And again, that's a big IF as far as him staying healthy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2019, 09:08:47 PM
We'd have to have been patient even with Tony Khan's slow negotiating speed on Tomori and Hector. Hector had the Gold Cup with Jamaica, and will probably only be available to start his Pre-Season on Monday anyway. For Tomori, Chelsea had to sort out appointing Lampard and then Lampard needs to decide if Tomori's worth keeping around for Chelsea given their transfer ban. Tomori's always been my #1 choice for Centre-Back, just because I think he'd partner Mawson perfectly.

A potentially "under the radar" one for Centre-Back could be Daniel Ayala. In the last year of his contract, so I doubt he'd be excessively expensive. Think we've been in for him before as well, so he'd fit our recruitment profile in the sense in that we go back for a decent number of players e.g. McDonald, Cisse, Cyriac, Cavaleiro and probably a few more.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 18, 2019, 09:11:25 PM
Doubt Boro would let Ayala go after selling Flint.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2019, 09:14:57 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 18, 2019, 09:11:25 PM
Doubt Boro would let Ayala go after selling Flint.

From speaking to a Boro fan it seems like their plan for the season is Dael Fry + someone else. And they already have Shotton and apparently George Friend is being tried out as a LCB in Pre-Season. I think they'd sell for the right price given he's in the last year of his deal.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 18, 2019, 09:33:43 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2019, 09:14:57 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 18, 2019, 09:11:25 PM
Doubt Boro would let Ayala go after selling Flint.

From speaking to a Boro fan it seems like their plan for the season is Dael Fry + someone else. And they already have Shotton and apparently George Friend is being tried out as a LCB in Pre-Season. I think they'd sell for the right price given he's in the last year of his deal.

Can Middlesborough not afford to extend Ayala's contract?  He's a good CB.  Why wouldn't they retain him to be that "someone else"?   He's in his prime for a CB.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 19, 2019, 12:18:31 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!

After we sell R.Sess, do we really think defense is our main weakness?

Six Best Defenders - Christie, Odoi, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan
Six Best Midfieldes - Cisse, McDonald, Anguissa, Johasen, Cairney, De La Torre
Six Best Forwards - Calverio, Kamara, Fonte, Mitro, Atiye, Kebano

Including subs most games in 17/18 we played 4 defenders, 4 midfielders and 5 forwards
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 12:21:11 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 19, 2019, 12:18:31 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!

If we sell R.Sess near deadline day as expected and but no one, do you really think our defense is our biggest weakness

Six Best Defenders - Christie, Odoi, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan
Six Best Midfieldes - Cisse, McDonald, Anguissa, Johasen, Cairney, De La Torre
Six Best Forwards - Calverio, Kamara, Fonte, Mitro, Atiye, Kebano

Including subs most games in 17/18 we played 4 defenders, 4 midfielders and 5 forwards

Of course our defence is our biggest weakness! It has been for 2 seasons!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ..FOF.. on July 19, 2019, 12:27:51 AM
Yes, I am too expecting a couple of proven "pedigree" defenders to be signed to challenge our current batch.

And a World Class goalkeeper, probably slightly aging, as a bonus.... you know, since some fans here said that we have bottomless wealth and budget at Fulham and that seems to be main factor for success... hahaha
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 19, 2019, 12:33:55 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 12:21:11 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 19, 2019, 12:18:31 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!

If we sell R.Sess near deadline day as expected and but no one, do you really think our defense is our biggest weakness

Six Best Defenders - Christie, Odoi, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan
Six Best Midfieldes - Cisse, McDonald, Anguissa, Johasen, Cairney, De La Torre
Six Best Forwards - Calverio, Kamara, Fonte, Mitro, Atiye, Kebano

Including subs most games in 17/18 we played 4 defenders, 4 midfielders and 5 forwards

Of course our defence is our biggest weakness! It has been for 2 seasons!

Hey without Sess, Babel, Piazon, Schullre and Vietto things maybe different from last two seasons, but the bigger issue is we overelied on Mitrovoic anyway for those two seasons.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SG on July 19, 2019, 06:28:48 AM
Any ideas on what is happening with Cisse and Fabri. Neither are featuring but both still here, I think
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 19, 2019, 06:47:59 AM
Quote from: SG on July 19, 2019, 06:28:48 AM
Any ideas on what is happening with Cisse and Fabri. Neither are featuring but both still here, I think

Cisse was at AFCON, and Fabri was on the Portugal trip.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝


Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝


Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.

And her indoors is going out to spend my winnings I won on the tennis,She has promised to bring me back something nice....What? A packet of Liquorice Allsorts.😒
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 19, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝


Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.
I would have thought a pudding basin haircut would have been cheaper than a full shave.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 08:43:32 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝


Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.

And her indoors is going out to spend my winnings I won on the tennis,She has promised to bring me back something nice....What? A packet of Liquorice Allsorts.😒

Sports mix and go to bed happy
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 19, 2019, 09:28:27 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝


Ive heard Hilda's get new off road tyres for her tea trolley to be able to supply the builders on the Riverside
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝


Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.

And her indoors is going out to spend my winnings I won on the tennis,She has promised to bring me back something nice....What? A packet of Liquorice Allsorts.😒

More likely a new Garden Shed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 09:39:18 AM
Quote from: filham on July 19, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝


Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.
I would have thought a pudding basin haircut would have been cheaper than a full shave.

I thought that also, but the pudding basin would have cost extra, as it's difficult to obtain a basin these days.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝

Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 09:51:50 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝

Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?

haha I was going to ask the same question (but I do find Ol'Hilda rather endearing). 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 09:51:50 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝

Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?

haha I was going to ask the same question (but I do find Ol'Hilda rather endearing).

Oh, me too. I have no problem with the jokes either, just don't want to get my hopes up!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝

Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
I have a great sense of humour but Never find comments akin to there's a medical today ....somewhere or this funny. Sorry probably just me though
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝

Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
I have a great sense of humour but Never find comments akin to there's a medical today ....somewhere or this funny. Sorry probably just me though

Each to their own. I believe last time he was made out to have made a joke but actually something happened as predicted so I'm wondering whether this is the case again.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝

Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
I have a great sense of humour but Never find comments akin to there's a medical today ....somewhere or this funny. Sorry probably just me though

Each to their own. I believe last time he was made out to have made a joke but actually something happened as predicted so I'm wondering whether this is the case again.

My hope, is that we needed to confirm Seri (to get his wages off the books) before confirming another transfer in.

Surely we would have heard of a player having a medical though?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

Sharpening my pitch fork ready for ya!!!!

All jokes aside, thanks for passing on what you heard.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bencher on July 19, 2019, 11:11:58 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

I think he would be a good signing. He is very capable at Championship level and, importantly, a set piece taker, which I think we lack in our squad, and have done for a while.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

If you don't mind me asking, is your source reliable? Like someone connected to the club or the player?

Good signing if true.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 19, 2019, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

Sharpening my pitch fork ready for ya!!!!

All jokes aside, thanks for passing on what you heard.


haha pitch forks and tourches at the ready!

been told today/tomorrow is looking likely

i just wonder about the recruitment. im not complaining at all with any players brought on but we are still looking top heavy. i know were in talks for Tomori and i believe between Betts, Bryan, La Marchand, Mawson, Ream, Odoi, Christie and Sess, we will be fine but it looks like at the moment were aiming to outscore everyone :-)
we concede 3 but we will score 4....looks like were in for an exciting season

id have a bet now that were involved in most goals (combined for and agains) at the end of the season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

If you don't mind me asking, is your source reliable? Like someone connected to the club or the player?

Good signing if true.

Yep let us know.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 19, 2019, 11:17:53 AM
We're actually going to start the season with our current defence arent we?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: Chutney on July 19, 2019, 11:17:53 AM
We're actually going to start the season with our current defence arent we?

I think so. If the midfield dominate games like they should and we don't put so much pressure on the defence for 80% of the game, I think we'll be ok. I'd prefer to see some signings, someone mentioned above Tomori for instance, but I wouldn't be totally annoyed if we see some youth start to pressure current starting eleven for places. I think this squad is starting to look hugely exciting for next year.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 19, 2019, 11:23:33 AM
Not transfer related but Cookie amongst the favourites for the Wednesday job
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 19, 2019, 11:31:40 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: Chutney on July 19, 2019, 11:17:53 AM
We're actually going to start the season with our current defence arent we?

I think so. If the midfield dominate games like they should and we don't put so much pressure on the defence for 80% of the game, I think we'll be ok. I'd prefer to see some signings, someone mentioned above Tomori for instance, but I wouldn't be totally annoyed if we see some youth start to pressure current starting eleven for places. I think this squad is starting to look hugely exciting for next year.

A RCB is a must IMO, but apart from that, I'd be happy going into the season with our current defence.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 19, 2019, 11:32:47 AM
Sheff Utd just paid £9 mil for Lys Mousette who in 27 matches as a striker scored 2 goals & no assists.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 19, 2019, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

I will find you, and if this comes through, I will like you.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 11:41:56 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 19, 2019, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

I will find you, and if this comes through, I will like you.

Come on man. Don't say you have heard but then not give us an idea of the source to know if it could be true. Was it your mate who heard on twitter? Or someone who may actually know?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 19, 2019, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

If you don't mind me asking, is your source reliable? Like someone connected to the club or the player?

Good signing if true.

Yep let us know.

as tenuouse as this is, its a friend of mines friend is works for the club.
ive had loads of bits before but not really taken part in the discussions on here about them
would say that about 80% of what im told, comes to fruition (mitro signing new contract, Cavaleiro etc). the other 20% has fallen through (Konsa for instance. we were very close) thats not to say it was false, just didnt get over the line
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 19, 2019, 11:48:17 AM
As soon as I see statements such as " we are lead to believe" " sources close to the club" " reports coming in that" " it is expected that" I ignore these stories.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

If you don't mind me asking, is your source reliable? Like someone connected to the club or the player?

Good signing if true.

Yep let us know.

as tenuouse as this is, its a friend of mines friend is works for the club.
ive had loads of bits before but not really taken part in the discussions on here about them
would say that about 80% of what im told, comes to fruition (mitro signing new contract, Cavaleiro etc). the other 20% has fallen through (Konsa for instance. we were very close) thats not to say it was false, just didnt get over the line

Perfect. Thank you for that.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 12:03:00 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝

Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
I have a great sense of humour but Never find comments akin to there's a medical today ....somewhere or this funny. Sorry probably just me though

Each to their own. I believe last time he was made out to have made a joke but actually something happened as predicted so I'm wondering whether this is the case again.
Could possibly be but posted same or similar posts loads of times and nothing happened.

Not having a go at all, people share info, but if they are jokers then i find it annoying

I truly hope we do get something over the line today, we need a CB so fingers crossed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on July 19, 2019, 12:03:54 PM
Yep. Thanks for passing it on. That would be a great signing for us. But yeah. Id like some reinforcements for our defence. Im sure this will happen though. Just got to give it time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 19, 2019, 12:24:37 PM
I am happy for the rumours even if they cannot state the source. In a very short space of time the bull shitters are worked out, and ignored. Hmmm whatever happened to Charlie Brown?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 12:27:34 PM
Knockeart would be good, but if interested in him why the links to the Bristol city player O'Dowda. Personally thought the city lad was overpriced, yes he had a good season, but just the one season that's what we did when we signed Pringle, thankfully that was a free transfer.

Hope though it is true as our attacking options would be fantastic, then just need a centre back and possibly a right back

SHould also be noted that Knockeart is in Austria with the Brighton squad i believe, doesn't mean he cant fly back though
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans

There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 19, 2019, 12:42:39 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 19, 2019, 11:23:33 AM
Not transfer related but Cookie amongst the favourites for the Wednesday job
What will he do for the rest of the week?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans

There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.

Is one going to be happy to play second fiddle to the other including Ivan who we just brought in
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 12:52:57 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans

There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.
Agree re some leavers. Fabric, Sess, CIsse, Possibly Fonte as well.

Anguish i think will stay, Kamara For me depends on how he fits back into the squad, has seemed well in Portugal. He will have a place for me if he is all good, i still suspect that was more about Ranieiri than AK.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on July 19, 2019, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans

There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.
kamara is staying tony khan stated this on the podcast
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Classic94 on July 19, 2019, 01:02:06 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans

There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.


Can see Fabri, R Sessegnon, Cisse and possibly Fonte going before the deadline, with 3 more ins.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 19, 2019, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 12:52:57 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans

There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.
Agree re some leavers. Fabric, Sess, CIsse, Possibly Fonte as well.

Anguish i think will stay, Kamara For me depends on how he fits back into the squad, has seemed well in Portugal. He will have a place for me if he is all good, i still suspect that was more about Ranieiri than AK.


Predictive text is a bugger :005:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Same source that gave me the info I posted a while back ref Can / Knockaert text me this morning. Deal for Knockaert looking unlikely now as he has Prem interest... Brighton want to sell. List of targets who we looked at in Jan and still very much on the radar are:

- Leo Bonatini (Wolves) - Wanted a loan in Jan but couldn't shift TFM - Wolves wanting to move him on.
- Sabaly - Bordeoux RB - Willie McKay involved in this apparently and offering him to everyone under the sun, but stats & scouting team like him. Another we nearly got in Jan. MacIntosh had him flown over but didn't agree a deal with Bordeoux. I checked this out and Sky reported similar news.
- Hector - Interest is there, club weighing up CB options after missing out on Janssen & Konsa.

I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.

He hasn't mentioned the O'Dowda stuff at all not sure how true this is or if indeed he knows.

If I get anything else ill post it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 02:12:20 PM
Anguissa is an absolute nailed on to stay



You think?😉
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Same source that gave me the info I posted a while back ref Can / Knockaert text me this morning. Deal for Knockaert looking unlikely now as he has Prem interest... Brighton want to sell. List of targets who we looked at in Jan and still very much on the radar are:

- Leo Bonatini (Wolves) - Wanted a loan in Jan but couldn't shift TFM - Wolves wanting to move him on.
- Sabaly - Bordeoux RB - Willie McKay involved in this apparently and offering him to everyone under the sun, but stats & scouting team like him. Another we nearly got in Jan. MacIntosh had him flown over but didn't agree a deal with Bordeoux. I checked this out and Sky reported similar news.
- Hector - Interest is there, club weighing up CB options after missing out on Janssen & Konsa.

I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.

He hasn't mentioned the O'Dowda stuff at all not sure how true this is or if indeed he knows.

If I get anything else ill post it.


Wow so we had at 11:04 -

"don't shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today"

Now at 14:26

Knockhaert deal is unlikely.

I don't know what to believe any more, I guess time will tell who has the best source.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 03:05:33 PM

Wow so we had at 11:04 -

"don't shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today"

Now at 14:26

Knockhaert deal is unlikely.

I don't know what to believe any more, I guess time will tell who has the best source.

It is of course entirely possible that both sources were good, but that something changed between the first source receiving information and the second one.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 19, 2019, 03:22:20 PM
its no win on here with some people...have information, pass it on, get mocked. can only go on what i get told and as i said, 80% of what i get happens. others dont get over the line
was trying to upload the whatsapp screen shots to pass on but keep getting an error about uploading
shutting up now
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 03:33:28 PM
Apparently, or so reported, Knockeart would prefer to stay in the south or ideally in London. That was reported in the press when we were first linked to him.

May or may not be the case as newspapers and some twitter ITK's like to make a story more sexy
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 19, 2019, 03:41:48 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 02:12:20 PM
Anguissa is an absolute nailed on to stay



You think?😉

Pogba lite?   Absolutely.   Scott Parker rates him.   As do I.



There are still 3 available CBs that I'd be happy bringing in any of.

Michael Hector
Daniel Ayala
Axel Tuanzebe


Any of the 3 would improve the CB position.   Question is, who wants to come to Fulham.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.


That's hardly surprising IMO
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on July 19, 2019, 03:55:21 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Same source that gave me the info I posted a while back ref Can / Knockaert text me this morning. Deal for Knockaert looking unlikely now as he has Prem interest... Brighton want to sell. List of targets who we looked at in Jan and still very much on the radar are:

- Leo Bonatini (Wolves) - Wanted a loan in Jan but couldn't shift TFM - Wolves wanting to move him on.
- Sabaly - Bordeoux RB - Willie McKay involved in this apparently and offering him to everyone under the sun, but stats & scouting team like him. Another we nearly got in Jan. MacIntosh had him flown over but didn't agree a deal with Bordeoux. I checked this out and Sky reported similar news.
- Hector - Interest is there, club weighing up CB options after missing out on Janssen & Konsa.

I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.

He hasn't mentioned the O'Dowda stuff at all not sure how true this is or if indeed he knows.

If I get anything else ill post it.

Appreciate the updates. It is a gossip thread for a reason. Looking forward to hearing more!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 19, 2019, 03:55:43 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Same source that gave me the info I posted a while back ref Can / Knockaert text me this morning. Deal for Knockaert looking unlikely now as he has Prem interest... Brighton want to sell. List of targets who we looked at in Jan and still very much on the radar are:

- Leo Bonatini (Wolves) - Wanted a loan in Jan but couldn't shift TFM - Wolves wanting to move him on.
- Sabaly - Bordeoux RB - Willie McKay involved in this apparently and offering him to everyone under the sun, but stats & scouting team like him. Another we nearly got in Jan. MacIntosh had him flown over but didn't agree a deal with Bordeoux. I checked this out and Sky reported similar news.
- Hector - Interest is there, club weighing up CB options after missing out on Janssen & Konsa.

I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.

He hasn't mentioned the O'Dowda stuff at all not sure how true this is or if indeed he knows.

If I get anything else ill post it.

I highly doubt Willie McKay is currently offering players to anyone.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.


That's hardly surprising IMO



Ok so we were prepared to fork out big money for Knockeart though??
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 04:06:32 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 19, 2019, 03:55:43 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Same source that gave me the info I posted a while back ref Can / Knockaert text me this morning. Deal for Knockaert looking unlikely now as he has Prem interest... Brighton want to sell. List of targets who we looked at in Jan and still very much on the radar are:

- Leo Bonatini (Wolves) - Wanted a loan in Jan but couldn't shift TFM - Wolves wanting to move him on.
- Sabaly - Bordeoux RB - Willie McKay involved in this apparently and offering him to everyone under the sun, but stats & scouting team like him. Another we nearly got in Jan. MacIntosh had him flown over but didn't agree a deal with Bordeoux. I checked this out and Sky reported similar news.
- Hector - Interest is there, club weighing up CB options after missing out on Janssen & Konsa.

I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.

He hasn't mentioned the O'Dowda stuff at all not sure how true this is or if indeed he knows.

If I get anything else ill post it.

I highly doubt Willie McKay is currently offering players to anyone.
Apparently still quite active which i found very surprising given the ongoing Sala saga.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 04:07:28 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.


That's hardly surprising IMO



Ok so we were prepared to fork out big money for Knockeart though??
Fair point actually, as the post says may not happen as prem interest which indicates we were willing to spend big to get him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 04:12:13 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 04:07:28 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.


That's hardly surprising IMO



Ok so we were prepared to fork out big money for Knockeart though??
Fair point actually, as the post says may not happen as prem interest which indicates we were willing to spend big to get him

Yeah sounds very suspect.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 03:22:20 PM
its no win on here with some people...have information, pass it on, get mocked. can only go on what i get told and as i said, 80% of what i get happens. others dont get over the line
was trying to upload the whatsapp screen shots to pass on but keep getting an error about uploading
shutting up now

Who mocked exactly? Someone posted insider info a few hours after you suggesting the opposite, if anything, there has been more thanking posts than criticising ones. Feel a bit like ya being a bit soft here lad.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 04:26:22 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 04:06:32 PM


I highly doubt Willie McKay is currently offering players to anyone.
[/quote]
Apparently still quite active which i found very surprising given the ongoing Sala saga.
[/quote]

I am still not sure what McKay has done that is worse than what most football agents do (trying to get as a lucrative deal as possible for their clients, and of course themselves). That he happened to be involved in a transfer with a very sad side story may of course make him sound worse by association but as far as I know the tragic accident was by no means his fault was it? Yet many seem to insinuate that he is some sort of evil mastermind. Maybe I missed something in the reporting.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 04:26:22 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 04:06:32 PM


I highly doubt Willie McKay is currently offering players to anyone.
Apparently still quite active which i found very surprising given the ongoing Sala saga.
[/quote]

I am still not sure what McKay has done that is worse than what most football agents do (trying to get as a lucrative deal as possible for their clients, and of course themselves). That he happened to be involved in a transfer with a very sad side story may of course make him sound worse by association but as far as I know the tragic accident was by no means his fault was it? Yet many seem to insinuate that he is some sort of evil mastermind. Maybe I missed something in the reporting.
[/quote]
No I am only surprised as everyone still investigating who should pay what, nit suggesting he did anything wrong or different to any other agent
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 19, 2019, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 04:26:22 PM

I am still not sure what McKay has done that is worse than what most football agents do (trying to get as a lucrative deal as possible for their clients, and of course themselves). That he happened to be involved in a transfer with a very sad side story may of course make him sound worse by association but as far as I know the tragic accident was by no means his fault was it? Yet many seem to insinuate that he is some sort of evil mastermind. Maybe I missed something in the reporting.

He (or his son?) is alleged to have been involved in arranging the flight, and another person involved in arranging the flight (a British pilot) has been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter, a serious offence leading to two deaths. So he's far from being in the clear legally, and even further from being in the clear ethically.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 05:40:14 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2019, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 04:26:22 PM

I am still not sure what McKay has done that is worse than what most football agents do (trying to get as a lucrative deal as possible for their clients, and of course themselves). That he happened to be involved in a transfer with a very sad side story may of course make him sound worse by association but as far as I know the tragic accident was by no means his fault was it? Yet many seem to insinuate that he is some sort of evil mastermind. Maybe I missed something in the reporting.

He (or his son?) is alleged to have been involved in arranging the flight, and another person involved in arranging the flight (a British pilot) has been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter, a serious offence leading to two deaths. So he's far from being in the clear legally, and even further from being in the clear ethically.

I thought it was not only alleged but also confirmed that they were involved in arranging the flight. I have not heard anything of McKay or his son being suspected of any wrongdoing in that regard though, are there any such reports? Just because you are associated with someone that is suspected of a crime doesn't have to mean that you have done anything wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bracken White on July 19, 2019, 05:48:49 PM
Apparently talks re Sessegnon have stalled as we are seeking a good young player to come to us as part of the deal. Right that we're playing tough with the ruthless Levy, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 19, 2019, 05:55:02 PM
This may or may not be true but to add to the rumours I have been told by a couple of Brighton fans that Knockhaert has put his house up for sale and looking for a property in London.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 19, 2019, 06:09:11 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 19, 2019, 05:48:49 PM
Apparently talks re Sessegnon have stalled as we are seeking a good young player to come to us as part of the deal. Right that we're playing tough with the ruthless Levy, in my opinion.

Stalled as of...the minute he got injured?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 19, 2019, 06:27:04 PM
Sky Sports reporting Knockeart medical now

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 19, 2019, 06:28:02 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 19, 2019, 05:55:02 PM
This may or may not be true but to add to the rumours I have been told by a couple of Brighton fans that Knockhaert has put his house up for sale and looking for a property in London.

He's in all the Brighton training photos today preparing for tomorrow's game against us, if he's suddenly not in the squad tomorrow then there might be something in it, if he is forget it.
Title: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 19, 2019, 06:28:27 PM
Apologies welcome [emoji23]


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 19, 2019, 06:28:36 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 19, 2019, 06:09:11 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 19, 2019, 05:48:49 PM
Apparently talks re Sessegnon have stalled as we are seeking a good young player to come to us as part of the deal. Right that we're playing tough with the ruthless Levy, in my opinion.

Stalled as of...the minute he got injured?


Levy will keep stalling and then pick Sess up for peanuts in January or next Summer for zilch
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.

Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on July 19, 2019, 06:31:55 PM
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2019/07/knockaert-having-fulham-medical/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 19, 2019, 06:32:39 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190719/b1767ff863b2e818c4ca2161ae1693ad.jpg)


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on July 19, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
I guess we know which ITK is more reliable then😂
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:35:23 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 19, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
I guess we know which ITK is more reliable then😂

They may both be correct. Depending on the time of the info.

There is a lot of stuff in flux with transfers like this.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
Media stories earlier said he was in Austria with B&HA so hopefully he has flown back
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 19, 2019, 06:40:46 PM
Flew back. Hence the late medical


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ealex40 on July 19, 2019, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
Media stories earlier said he was in Austria with B&HA so hopefully he has flown back

We are playing against Brighton tomorrow, so I guess he had to fly back anyway.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:41:45 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
Media stories earlier said he was in Austria with B&HA so hopefully he has flown back

He can do a medical anywhere, Anderlecht did Mitros for us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 19, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
I guess we know which ITK is more reliable then😂


Stop it, I already hurt someone's feelings today and now you will too.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.

Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.

I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.

Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.

I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got


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If we did get Wanyama I'm guess it would mean Zambo would be gone
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on July 19, 2019, 06:48:57 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 19, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
I guess we know which ITK is more reliable then😂


Stop it, I already hurt someone's feelings today and now you will too.



I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 19, 2019, 06:53:14 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.

Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.

I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got


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If we did get Wanyama I'm guess it would mean Zambo would be gone

Unless we play wanyama holding, anguiss next to him or just in front?


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:55:57 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:53:14 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.

Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.

I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got


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If we did get Wanyama I'm guess it would mean Zambo would be gone

Unless we play wanyama holding, anguiss next to him or just in front?


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Either way he would be an incredible pick up. Still need to make moves in the market on the back 4 front.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on July 19, 2019, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
Media stories earlier said he was in Austria with B&HA so hopefully he has flown back

We are playing against Brighton tomorrow, so I guess he had to fly back anyway.
I just thought of that myself as they had to be back here
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:57:27 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:41:45 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
Media stories earlier said he was in Austria with B&HA so hopefully he has flown back

He can do a medical anywhere, Anderlecht did Mitros for us.
Agree they can was just saying that as it said at FUlham, but they have to be back as they have us tomorrow

The Anderlecht thing was a bit of luck for us as he was about to sign for them but they could not shift their player on. Shows how much they like and respect him to allow that too be sent to us
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 19, 2019, 07:12:34 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:53:14 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.

Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.

I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got


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If we did get Wanyama I'm guess it would mean Zambo would be gone

Unless we play wanyama holding, anguiss next to him or just in front?


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We may want Wanyama, but we got about 0% chance of getting him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jeroen on July 19, 2019, 07:17:35 PM
Cahill is still a free-agent as well am I right? Any chance of getting him since nobody has stepped in yet....
Would he be good for us?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 07:23:37 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.

Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.

I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got


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If we did get Wanyama I'm guess it would mean Zambo would be gone

I don't think there is much of a chance to get Wanyama (would be an absolutely incredible signing for a Championship club), but if we did then I would assume he would be playing DM. Anguissa could easily play alongside him in midfield then as has been pointed out repeatedly that he has not historically played as a lone DM.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ss12white on July 19, 2019, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

Take a bow
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 19, 2019, 07:52:40 PM
Spurs get Sess we get Oliver Skipp 18 year old central midfielder . It must be on loan because he is too good .
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 07:55:30 PM
Was just passing on info from the chap who has given me many snippets. I text him just now asking what has changed, nothing back yet!. He always says to me don't quote me or tell anyone, I can see why!. Knockaert was playing golf in Surrey yesterday at Old Oak golf club apparently.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BernieBoy on July 19, 2019, 08:06:59 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 19, 2019, 03:41:48 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 02:12:20 PM
Anguissa is an absolute nailed on to stay



You think?😉

Pogba lite?   Absolutely.   Scott Parker rates him.   As do I.



There are still 3 available CBs that I'd be happy bringing in any of.

Michael Hector
Daniel Ayala
Axel Tuanzebe


Any of the 3 would improve the CB position.   Question is, who wants to come to Fulham.

Always thought Ayala was class, unsure why a lower/mid table PL team haven't snapped him up. I doubt he'd go now with Flint going to Cardiff.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 19, 2019, 08:10:41 PM
We need a proper anchor player playing next to Zambo if we want to get the best out of him. I've said all along he's more of an 8 than a 6. Given the sort of market we seem to be shopping in with Cavaleiro and seemingly Knockaert I'd look at someone like Nampalys Mendy given he's seemingly behind Ndidi and Choudhury or maybe even try for Oriol Romeu.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 19, 2019, 08:19:17 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.

Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.

I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got


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If Tony Khan requested Wanyama he probably did it expecting it to be rejected.     He probably said..."hey...ok...since you're playing hard ball...how about we agree on THIS fee...and you send us Victor Wanyama in the deal"

To which Levy probably went... 064.gif

Then he ran down the hall...told Victor...who then went... 064.gif

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 19, 2019, 08:25:25 PM
Mind...Knockhaert signing doesn't mean Sess is gone.    It'll be a battle between Sess, Anthony and Ivan to tie down the fluid front 2 spots beside Mitro.

It's a long season and I'd rather have Ryan on the bench... as the first one off instead of Ayite and Kabano.



I'm really thinking Ryan is still injured though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:

Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on July 19, 2019, 08:39:31 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 19, 2019, 08:10:41 PM
We need a proper anchor player playing next to Zambo if we want to get the best out of him. I've said all along he's more of an 8 than a 6. Given the sort of market we seem to be shopping in with Cavaleiro and seemingly Knockaert I'd look at someone like Nampalys Mendy given he's seemingly behind Ndidi and Choudhury or maybe even try for Oriol Romeu.

Bešić would be just fine, imo.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:

Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.

I'm in shed crying.
Wife pinched all the pink coconut ones with the
Liquorice in middle.😤
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on July 19, 2019, 08:40:03 PM
Quote from: Ss12white on July 19, 2019, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today

Take a bow

Indeed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 19, 2019, 08:41:43 PM
Rumour is from Tom Barclay (sun football writer) on twitter is Knockeart's likely move to Fulham will be a one year loan deal and then a 10 million transfer
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on July 19, 2019, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 07:55:30 PM
Was just passing on info from the chap who has given me many snippets. I text him just now asking what has changed, nothing back yet!. He always says to me don't quote me or tell anyone, I can see why!. Knockaert was playing golf in Surrey yesterday at Old Oak golf club apparently.

All ITK info are appreciated, just keep it up.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:43:51 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 08:41:43 PM
Rumour is from Tom Barclay (sun football writer) on twitter is Knockeart's likely move to Fulham will be a one year loan deal and then a 10 million transfer

Another loan???
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: humussapiens on July 19, 2019, 08:47:02 PM
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/bristol-city-boss-lee-johnson-issues-update-on-24-y-os-future/

No offers yet for O'Dowda...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 08:51:44 PM
Quote from: humussapiens on July 19, 2019, 08:47:02 PM
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/bristol-city-boss-lee-johnson-issues-update-on-24-y-os-future/

No offers yet for O'Dowda...

As some one else stated I think this was a bluff to get knockhaert deal through and negotiate contract terms.

Didn't realise he is in final year of contact so potentially a cheeky levy type offer may tempt them
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:57:08 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:

Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.

I'm in shed crying.
Wife pinched all the pink coconut ones with the
Liquorice in middle.😤

Your heading for a breakdown, have you had your car serviced recently ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:57:08 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:

Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.

I'm in shed crying.
Wife pinched all the pink coconut ones with the
Liquorice in middle.😤

Your heading for a breakdown, have you had your car serviced recently ?

My 19th nervous one.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 20, 2019, 11:33:15 AM
Tottenham have started planning the medical for Ryan Sess according to football insider.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 20, 2019, 11:40:37 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 20, 2019, 11:33:15 AM
Tottenham have started planning the medical for Ryan Sess according to football insider.

Good now pay us what we want and be gone, dragged on long enough.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 20, 2019, 11:47:42 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 20, 2019, 11:40:37 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 20, 2019, 11:33:15 AM
Tottenham have started planning the medical for Ryan Sess according to football insider.

Good now pay us what we want and be gone, dragged on long enough.

We must have agreed a deal or we wouldn't be allowing him to have a medical. He's still under contract. If this rumour is true.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 20, 2019, 12:08:24 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:

Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.

I'm in shed crying.
Wife pinched all the pink coconut ones with the
Liquorice in middle.😤
There are certain things that it is important to include in a marriage contract, being free to attend Fulham matches is the obvious priority but this needs to be closely followed by first choice on your favourite type of liquorice allsort.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Texas White on July 20, 2019, 01:10:12 PM
Liverpool also setting up a medical for Ryan. Sounds like TK is on fire.

Ok I misread the comment. I see it Spurs. Should wake up before I post. Early doors here.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 20, 2019, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: filham on July 20, 2019, 12:08:24 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:

Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.

I'm in shed crying.
Wife pinched all the pink coconut ones with the
Liquorice in middle.😤
There are certain things that it is important to include in a marriage contract, being free to attend Fulham matches is the obvious priority but this needs to be closely followed by first choice on your favourite type of liquorice allsort.

Definitely grounds for divorce.😋
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 20, 2019, 03:53:58 PM
Fulham set to confirm the signing of Brighton winger Anthony Knockaert later today after agreeing personal terms and passing his medical. #ffc #BHAFC
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 20, 2019, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 20, 2019, 03:53:58 PM
Fulham set to confirm the signing of Brighton winger Anthony Knockaert later today after agreeing personal terms and passing his medical. #ffc #BHAFC

Splendid news, keep it coming, Mince will be over the moon, when he hears the good news.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 20, 2019, 04:13:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 20, 2019, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 20, 2019, 03:53:58 PM
Fulham set to confirm the signing of Brighton winger Anthony Knockaert later today after agreeing personal terms and passing his medical. #ffc #BHAFC

Splendid news, keep it coming, Mince will be over the moon, when he hears the good news.

I heard when he was asked to cough,he did it far too loud in the doctors face making him fall backwards while still holding Knockeart's goolies,making him unavailable for the near future.🙋
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 21, 2019, 01:47:59 PM
Delighted about Knockheart (when announced), not sure what to think about Seri.

Apart from Ryan leaving, I'm not actually sure if there'll be any more movement. Wouldn't mind another CB, but wouldn't be that surprised if we kept the rest of the squad as is
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 21, 2019, 02:01:58 PM
18 days before the window closes, the clock is ticking. Although we tend to leave last minute deals to the last second. Nevertheless, it is important we can keep our key players, and another centre back is needed if we can get one over the line that doesn't need an eternity to settle in and acclimatise.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on July 21, 2019, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 21, 2019, 02:01:58 PM
18 days before the window closes, the clock is ticking. Although we tend to leave last minute deals to the last second. Nevertheless, it is important we can keep our key players

With Mitro and TC tied down, who would you see as key from the rest?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 21, 2019, 04:12:02 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on July 21, 2019, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 21, 2019, 02:01:58 PM
18 days before the window closes, the clock is ticking. Although we tend to leave last minute deals to the last second. Nevertheless, it is important we can keep our key players

With Mitro and TC tied down, who would you see as key from the rest?

More important to keep players than to acquire them. Any player that has played more than twice last season (i.e. Fabri can leave for fair price) shouldn't be sold, unless the offer is overpriced for the contract time left (i.e. R.Sess can leave for 20m+).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 21, 2019, 04:46:34 PM
All of those who played against Brighton plus Anguissa should stay, not sure we need Fonte but can't think of anyone else that needs to go.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on July 21, 2019, 05:37:27 PM
Agree with fabri going also think cisse can go to make room for a younger player coming thru as a squad player.

Would also like 3 players to come in if nobody else leaves (sess already gone in my book and knockheart in).

Think we need a cb maybe hector .

A cm not sure who thou i see mo diame is on a free wud take him and we really need a striker even on loan to cover mitro again not sure who
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 21, 2019, 05:43:24 PM
Peter O'Rourke

Fulham have completed the signing of Brighton winger Anthony Knockaert. #ffc #bhafc
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 21, 2019, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 21, 2019, 05:43:24 PM
Peter O'Rourke

Fulham have completed the signing of Brighton winger Anthony Knockaert. #ffc #bhafc
Baruch Hashem, praise be

Put us all out our misery and announce it Fulham!

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 21, 2019, 05:56:54 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 21, 2019, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 21, 2019, 05:43:24 PM
Peter O'Rourke

Fulham have completed the signing of Brighton winger Anthony Knockaert. #ffc #bhafc
Baruch Hashem, praise be

Put us all out our misery and announce it Fulham!

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk



He said that yesterday and said it would be announced yesterday.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 21, 2019, 06:01:04 PM
CONFIRMED!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFCFOREVER on July 21, 2019, 06:01:42 PM
https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2019/july/knockaert-completes-fulham-move/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 21, 2019, 06:05:52 PM
Hallelujah 🍺
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 21, 2019, 06:13:50 PM
Great work again TK & the recruitment team. Forwards are now fine as is the MF. Now to do the business with the defence.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Cravenette on July 21, 2019, 06:25:38 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked a few times but how many domestic loans are we allowed?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 21, 2019, 06:28:18 PM
Quote from: The Cravenette on July 21, 2019, 06:25:38 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked a few times but how many domestic loans are we allowed?

8 loans total, no more than 4 from a club. 5 loanees at most in the matchday squad.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tooting legend on July 21, 2019, 06:29:50 PM
Well done TK another great piece of work.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on July 21, 2019, 06:34:14 PM
Money wise don't think players will be shipped out as a squad of involved players that are used to each other and committed to going forward,also unless defenders are proven at this level what would be the point.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 21, 2019, 07:28:31 PM
Right, forget all about attacking players now for the rest of the window, full concentration on that top experienced defender.

Where will he come from.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 11:31:24 AM
The Sess deal is £20 million + add-ons with Onomah and maybe Nkoudou moving here according to Matt Law of the Telegraph.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 22, 2019, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 11:31:24 AM
The Sess deal is £20 million + add-ons with Onomah and maybe Nkoudou moving here according to Matt Law of the Telegraph.
Nkoudou is another winger do we need one having signed 2?

Don't know much about the other lad.

Could do with a centre back maybe Foyth on loan ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 12:05:41 PM
Foyth is a first team regular, and Poch reportedly wants him to be their RB.

Onomah would probably be a decent option if Cairney is out. Have never seen Nkoudou play, so I don't know about him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on July 22, 2019, 12:06:17 PM
Unlikely to get Foyth, he played for the first team and in the Champions League, more likely Carter-Vickers (if he's still there)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 22, 2019, 12:09:47 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 11:31:24 AM
The Sess deal is £20 million + add-ons with Onomah and maybe Nkoudou moving here according to Matt Law of the Telegraph.

Don´t need either of these two. We are fine in MF & wingers. RCB or a FB who can play on either flank are what we need.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 22, 2019, 12:13:17 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 22, 2019, 12:09:47 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 11:31:24 AM
The Sess deal is £20 million + add-ons with Onomah and maybe Nkoudou moving here according to Matt Law of the Telegraph.

Don´t need either of these two. We are fine in MF & wingers. RCB or a FB who can play on either flank are what we need.
Have to agree. Before we'd signed IC and AK2, I'd have been all over this as think it's actually pretty reasonable deal.

But now it leaves us with a load of wingers, and a mf who could do a job but isn't exactly needed

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on July 22, 2019, 12:42:20 PM
As others have said, Nkoudou would have been interesting before we signed Cavaleiro and Knockaert, but not any more. Unless two of Ayite, Kebano and AK leaves of course, but can't see that happening.

Onomah has been on loan to Championship clubs before without impressing too much. As we have Cairney as a nailed on starter in his role, I'd much rather put trust in de la Torre/O'Riley/Francois/Harris as backup options.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 22, 2019, 12:50:54 PM
Be happy with another striker and CB and that would be it for me. Dont want too many additions remember last year.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.

This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.

If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.

COYW!


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bracken White on July 22, 2019, 01:17:59 PM
The two players cited obviously played for Scott Parker & Matt Wells at Tottenham - Onomah is an England youth & U21 International but surplus to requirements & I understand that he plays in the Sessegnon role. N'Koudou? Another winger and not really required but appears that SP is having a say in transfers inwards, which in itself is encouranging.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 01:23:53 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.

This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.

If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.

COYW!

In simple terms, you don't get the quality of Cavaleiro and Knockaert without them though. I think as long as both have reasonable buy clauses at end of loan spell, it's not only fine, but essential for teams wanting to get promoted.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: N_O_W_S on July 22, 2019, 01:29:28 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.

This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.

If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.

COYW!




Both of these loans have options to buy, so I view them more as permenant signings unless they dont perform as expected and then we havent spent a transfer fee on them so no big loss.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on July 22, 2019, 01:30:23 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.

This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.

If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.

COYW!

The (huge) difference this time though is that both Cavaleiro and Knockaert have been brought in on loans with permanent option (at £12m and £10m respectively if the rumours are to be believed). So if we get promoted and want to keep them, both will be with us when pre season starts.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 22, 2019, 01:31:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 01:23:53 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.

This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.

If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.

COYW!

In simple terms, you don't get the quality of Cavaleiro and Knockaert without them though. I think as long as both have reasonable buy clauses at end of loan spell, it's not only fine, but essential for teams wanting to get promoted.

Loan with an option to buy is the best of both worlds IMO.

Try before you buy... keep them if you want to

Even better than a permanent signing

The only downside is that, I suspect, we've had to pay significant loan fees, and/or we'd perhaps have got them slightly cheaper than the option exercise price had we bought them outright now
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 01:34:27 PM
Don't think we could take the FFP hit of buying them outright. The loan with option would push most of the fee to next season, as well as not having to give any sign on bonuses at the moment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 22, 2019, 01:48:27 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.

Le Marchand can easily slot in if needs be. Edun too has experience at LB.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on July 22, 2019, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: twang on July 22, 2019, 12:42:20 PM
As others have said, Nkoudou would have been interesting before we signed Cavaleiro and Knockaert, but not any more. Unless two of Ayite, Kebano and AK leaves of course, but can't see that happening.

Onomah has been on loan to Championship clubs before without impressing too much. As we have Cairney as a nailed on starter in his role, I'd much rather put trust in de la Torre/O'Riley/Francois/Harris as backup options.
ak better not go anywhere, rather him than nkoudou, ak been brilliant pre season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jimmy Hill on July 22, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.

I always think you should give youth a chance at the start of a season to be cover. You always have ream and MLM odoi that can play there. Then if they are not cutting it get someone in Jan. There is alaways getting and experienced pro on a free if we were really desperate too. I think that having too big a squad causes more problems than its worth plus you can spend the money on mitros wages.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 22, 2019, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on July 22, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.

I always think you should give youth a chance at the start of a season to be cover. You always have ream and MLM odoi that can play there. Then if they are not cutting it get someone in Jan. There is alaways getting and experienced pro on a free if we were really desperate too. I think that having too big a squad causes more problems than its worth plus you can spend the money on mitros wages.

Odoi can play there too. He was primarily a left back when we bought him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 02:12:49 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on July 22, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.

I always think you should give youth a chance at the start of a season to be cover. You always have ream and MLM odoi that can play there. Then if they are not cutting it get someone in Jan. There is alaways getting and experienced pro on a free if we were really desperate too. I think that having too big a squad causes more problems than its worth plus you can spend the money on mitros wages.

Odoi can play there too. He was primarily a left back when we bought him.
to be fair , you could say every position is adequately covered though if we are going to invludebplayers who could do a job if required
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 22, 2019, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.

Personally I dont. The 'able to do a job' mindset is how you end up with players such as Sakari Mattila. You need to sign players to challenge for starting positions - then McD, Ayite, Christie etc become the backup options...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 22, 2019, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 02:12:49 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on July 22, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.

I always think you should give youth a chance at the start of a season to be cover. You always have ream and MLM odoi that can play there. Then if they are not cutting it get someone in Jan. There is alaways getting and experienced pro on a free if we were really desperate too. I think that having too big a squad causes more problems than its worth plus you can spend the money on mitros wages.

Odoi can play there too. He was primarily a left back when we bought him.
to be fair , you could say every position is adequately covered though if we are going to invludebplayers who could do a job if required

Well Odoi has played more games in his career at LB than anywhere else, according to transfermarkt. So he's basically an LB who also does a job for us at CB and RB when required
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 22, 2019, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.

Personally I dont. The 'able to do a job' mindset is how you end up with players such as Sakari Mattila. You need to sign players to challenge for starting positions - then McD, Ayite, Christie etc become the backup options...

or they leave and you're in a similar scenario.......
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 03:09:22 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 22, 2019, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.

Personally I dont. The 'able to do a job' mindset is how you end up with players such as Sakari Mattila. You need to sign players to challenge for starting positions - then McD, Ayite, Christie etc become the backup options...

We aren't signing players that "are able to do a job". We already have them. Do you think we'll be able to get a LB that is better than Joe Bryan at our level? Fulhamben wants someone to act as cover, not to replace Bryan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us.  Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.

Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.

At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MickyAdamsFamily on July 22, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
This comes from the Spanish site eldesmarque.com:
"La situación de Chema dentro del equipo es más complicada. El técnico de Silla no cuenta demasiado con el central, por lo que lo más seguro es que termine saliendo de Orriols a lo largo de este verano. En principio, el caudetano ha recibido una oferta del Fulham, por lo que es probable que termine saliendo al club inglés."
Essentially, they're saying it's probable that Chema, who plays in the center of Defense for Levante, is probable to finally leave that team and accept the offer from Fulham to play in England.
He's a Spanish 6' 2-1/2" tall Centre Back.
Anyone seen him play for Levante enough to have an opinion?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 03:21:29 PM
Only thing I know about Chema is that we were linked with that transfer back in the start of the window.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 22, 2019, 03:29:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 01:31:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 01:23:53 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.

This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.

If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.

COYW!

In simple terms, you don't get the quality of Cavaleiro and Knockaert without them though. I think as long as both have reasonable buy clauses at end of loan spell, it's not only fine, but essential for teams wanting to get promoted.

Loan with an option to buy is the best of both worlds IMO.

Try before you buy... keep them if you want to

Even better than a permanent signing

The only downside is that, I suspect, we've had to pay significant loan fees, and/or we'd perhaps have got them slightly cheaper than the option exercise price had we bought them outright now



:plus one: getting fed up agreeing with you  statto.  :005:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on July 22, 2019, 03:36:45 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-7272571/Tottenham-transfer-talks-Fulham-signing-25-million-rated-youngster-Ryan-Sessegnon.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 22, 2019, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us.  Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.

Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.

At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club

Just to clarify/elaborate, transfermarkt says Odoi played well over 100 games at LB, so it wasnt just him doing a job there for Lokeren. Also, do we know he's right footed? Ive a feeling he may be one of those players who's equally good with both feet (and his head... and his back)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 22, 2019, 03:46:05 PM
Quote from: MickeyAdamsFamily on July 22, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
This comes from the Spanish site eldesmarque.com:
"La situación de Chema dentro del equipo es más complicada. El técnico de Silla no cuenta demasiado con el central, por lo que lo más seguro es que termine saliendo de Orriols a lo largo de este verano. En principio, el caudetano ha recibido una oferta del Fulham, por lo que es probable que termine saliendo al club inglés."
Essentially, they're saying it's probable that Chema, who plays in the center of Defense for Levante, is probable to finally leave that team and accept the offer from Fulham to play in England.
He's a Spanish 6' 2-1/2" tall Centre Back.
Anyone seen him play for Levante enough to have an opinion?

He's a left footed CB. Not needed really. Doesn't solve the RCB issue.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 22, 2019, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 02:12:49 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on July 22, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.

I always think you should give youth a chance at the start of a season to be cover. You always have ream and MLM odoi that can play there. Then if they are not cutting it get someone in Jan. There is alaways getting and experienced pro on a free if we were really desperate too. I think that having too big a squad causes more problems than its worth plus you can spend the money on mitros wages.

Odoi can play there too. He was primarily a left back when we bought him.
to be fair , you could say every position is adequately covered though if we are going to invludebplayers who could do a job if required

Well Odoi has played more games in his career at LB than anywhere else, according to transfermarkt. So he's basically an LB who also does a job for us at CB and RB when required
We're bought odoi to cover both fullback positions, his CB covering has been a bonus
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MickyAdamsFamily on July 22, 2019, 04:16:15 PM
Yes, but have you seen him play?
Also, the dominant foot is less of an issue with a centre back than it is with a full back. Generally the right back should be right footed and the left back left footed, the better to send in a cross and to keep their man from beating them to the outside, but centre backs are not so universally aligned. There are centre backs who prefer to play with their dominant foot towards the centre of the pitch (ie: right centre backs who are left footed, and left centre backs who are right footed), as it gives them more confidence defending the middle of the pitch and clearing the ball out wide. It's more a matter of personal preference and team need, I believe.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us.  Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.

Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.

At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club

Just to clarify/elaborate, transfermarkt says Odoi played well over 100 games at LB, so it wasnt just him doing a job there for Lokeren. Also, do we know he's right footed? Ive a feeling he may be one of those players who's equally good with both feet (and his head... and his back)


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He is right footed. When he has played LB for us before he unbalanced the side in that he didn't provide the width to go outside and frequently slowed the game down to shift on to his stronger foot.  You really do need be nearly as good with your weaker foot to play as an inverted FB and neither him or S Sess are. In my opinion,  he is barely adequate as a RB, not adequate at all as a LB.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 22, 2019, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us.  Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.

Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.

At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club

Just to clarify/elaborate, transfermarkt says Odoi played well over 100 games at LB, so it wasnt just him doing a job there for Lokeren. Also, do we know he's right footed? Ive a feeling he may be one of those players who's equally good with both feet (and his head... and his back)

I read somewhere that his favourite position is actually LB. But if I remember correctly he likes to cut inwards from LB which may require a slight change of tactics.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 22, 2019, 05:01:37 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 22, 2019, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us.  Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.

Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.

At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club

Just to clarify/elaborate, transfermarkt says Odoi played well over 100 games at LB, so it wasnt just him doing a job there for Lokeren. Also, do we know he's right footed? Ive a feeling he may be one of those players who's equally good with both feet (and his head... and his back)

I read somewhere that his favourite position is actually LB. But if I remember correctly he likes to cut inwards from LB which may require a slight change of tactics.

Tatic change Denis get the ball pass a glorious 25 yard pass forward for Ivan to run onto, job done
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Captain Fulhamerica on July 22, 2019, 05:31:09 PM
Is it just me, or is this concern over whether a player is an RCB or LCB new? I can't recall the distinction being an issue in the past. I personally don't mind having two right footed or left footed CBs. A good CB should make that adjustment pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MickyAdamsFamily on July 22, 2019, 05:37:47 PM
Prezactly
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 22, 2019, 05:48:46 PM
Quote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us.  Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.

Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.

At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club

Just to clarify/elaborate, transfermarkt says Odoi played well over 100 games at LB, so it wasnt just him doing a job there for Lokeren. Also, do we know he's right footed? Ive a feeling he may be one of those players who's equally good with both feet (and his head... and his back)


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He is right footed. When he has played LB for us before he unbalanced the side in that he didn't provide the width to go outside and frequently slowed the game down to shift on to his stronger foot.  You really do need be nearly as good with your weaker foot to play as an inverted FB and neither him or S Sess are. In my opinion,  he is barely adequate as a RB, not adequate at all as a LB.

From what have read and seen to date, SP appears to have his mind set on playing inverted wingers (i expect to see Cav on the left and Knock on the right) so we will need Fullbacks that can overlap and cross the ball. I would prefer a new RB over a backup LB, Bryan is as good as we will get and IF somethign happens to him, we have a few not great but ok backups that can cover him until Jan 1st. On the other side, I'm not convinced the Cyrus can cross the ball and it feels a bit risky to expect Sess to step in as the first choice RB. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 07:17:08 PM
We're in for Elbasan Rashani of Odd according to the daily mail. Would be yet another winger.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on July 22, 2019, 07:29:58 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 07:17:08 PM
We're in for Elbasan Rashani of Odd according to the daily mail. Would be yet another winger.
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 07:17:08 PM
We're in for Elbasan Rashani of Odd according to the daily mail. Would be yet another winger.
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 07:17:08 PM
We're in for Elbasan Rashani of Odd according to the daily mail. Would be yet another winger.
wingers mitro and TC and score more goals than the other team!going to be brilliant!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on July 22, 2019, 08:10:56 PM
From the Twitter sphere

Trevoh Chalobah and Chelsea are nearing an agreement over a new long-term deal for the 20-year-old.

He will be sent out on loan immediately - Fulham and West Brom interested.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 08:36:10 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on July 22, 2019, 08:10:56 PM
From the Twitter sphere

Trevoh Chalobah and Chelsea are nearing an agreement over a new long-term deal for the 20-year-old.

He will be sent out on loan immediately - Fulham and West Brom interested.

STH'ers I know at Ipswich weren't impressed to be honest. Said wasn't championship standard and didn't see enough to think he'd be on in next few seasons. Not sure about this one.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FulhamKC on July 22, 2019, 09:10:15 PM
FWIW, Ream played left FB for the US this summer at the Gold Cup.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 09:27:58 PM
Quote from: Fulhammy on July 22, 2019, 05:31:09 PM
Is it just me, or is this concern over whether a player is an RCB or LCB new? I can't recall the distinction being an issue in the past. I personally don't mind having two right footed or left footed CBs. A good CB should make that adjustment pretty quickly.
it is quite important though. As you are taught to show the attacker away from goal and then make the tackle with your stronger foot. If it's your weaker side players tend to just throw a leg out which is normally when you concede a penalty
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 09:29:03 PM
Quote from: FulhamKC on July 22, 2019, 09:10:15 PM
FWIW, Ream played left FB for the US this summer at the Gold Cup.
not a fan of that at all. Slow fulbacks are a thing of the past. Boccenegra was pants when he played there.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 22, 2019, 09:35:34 PM
Jack Grimmer signed for Wycombe.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 01:48:44 AM
Quote from: FulhamKC on July 22, 2019, 09:10:15 PM
FWIW, Ream played left FB for the US this summer at the Gold Cup.

Bryan doesn't have a clear backup left back. Is Ream still a good option as Left-Back? He seems slow.

Who is our best backup Left Back: MLM, Ream, Odoi, S.Sess, Mundle, Edun, Dramah, Fossey or Christie?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on July 23, 2019, 08:41:26 AM
Re: Chema, I think we are waiting for Lampard to make a decision on Hector and Tomori so Chema is a backup option if those two stay at Chelsea.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 08:46:10 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on July 23, 2019, 08:41:26 AM
Re: Chema, I think we are waiting for Lampard to make a decision on Hector and Tomori so Chema is a backup option if those two stay at Chelsea.

Just my two cents.

Frankly, we have signed enough for the first game, just need a little depth in deadline day to strengthen us once injuries occur. Hector is the kind of depth that makes a Mawson injury less scary; Chema is the kind of player that MLM will struggle to win back his place if he does get injuried.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 08:46:15 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7273819/Transfer-news-Fulham-keeping-tabs-Kosovo-international-Elbasan-Rashani.html

Fulham are tracking Kosovo international Elbasan Rashani as they plot an instant return to the Premier League.

The Cottagers are keen to add a wide player to their ranks ahead of the Championship season and Rashani who plays for Norwegian side Odd Ballklubb, is on their radar.

Rashani, 26, has earned rave reviews in Norway for his performances and has attracted interest across Europe.

He's helped Odd, who feared a relegation battle, into second place in Norway's top-flight, behind FK Molde - Manchester United Ole Gunnar Solsjkaer's former club.

In his previous 48 games, Rashani has notched 11 goals and proved 13 assists - and Fulham's data analysis team have been alerted to the attacker's form.

Rashani, who represented Norway at junior level, could be available for around £500,000.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
https://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-and-sheffield-wednesday-chase-tottenham-hotspur-midfielder-1-9892653

Fulham and Sheffield Wednesday chase Tottenham Hotspur midfielder

Fulham are chasing Spurs midfielder Josh Onomah, who Sheffield Wednesday are believed to be keen on re-signing on another loan deal. (Daily Telegraph)


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
https://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-and-sheffield-wednesday-chase-tottenham-hotspur-midfielder-1-9892653

Fulham and Sheffield Wednesday chase Tottenham Hotspur midfielder

Fulham are chasing Spurs midfielder Josh Onomah, who Sheffield Wednesday are believed to be keen on re-signing on another loan deal. (Daily Telegraph)

He played reasonsbly well for Aston Villa as sub on playoff against us. He would really add depth at AM allowing Tom Cairney to play 70 minute games when we have three games in a week.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on July 23, 2019, 09:03:54 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
https://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-and-sheffield-wednesday-chase-tottenham-hotspur-midfielder-1-9892653

Fulham and Sheffield Wednesday chase Tottenham Hotspur midfielder

Fulham are chasing Spurs midfielder Josh Onomah, who Sheffield Wednesday are believed to be keen on re-signing on another loan deal. (Daily Telegraph)

He played reasonsbly well for Aston Villa as sub on playoff against us. He would really add depth at AM allowing Tom Cairney to play 70 minute games when we have three games in a week.

TBH I'd rather let Matt O'Rielly play if we limiting TC, he plays in a similar way Onomah is a more SteffJo type of AM, although Villa fans didn't rate him much from what I recall.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 23, 2019, 09:07:32 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
https://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-and-sheffield-wednesday-chase-tottenham-hotspur-midfielder-1-9892653

Fulham and Sheffield Wednesday chase Tottenham Hotspur midfielder

Fulham are chasing Spurs midfielder Josh Onomah, who Sheffield Wednesday are believed to be keen on re-signing on another loan deal. (Daily Telegraph)

He played reasonsbly well for Aston Villa as sub on playoff against us. He would really add depth at AM allowing Tom Cairney to play 70 minute games when we have three games in a week.

From what I've seen of him there and Wednesday, not impressed... We can do better imo.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 23, 2019, 09:14:22 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 08:46:10 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on July 23, 2019, 08:41:26 AM
Re: Chema, I think we are waiting for Lampard to make a decision on Hector and Tomori so Chema is a backup option if those two stay at Chelsea.

Just my two cents.

Frankly, we have signed enough for the first game, just need a little depth in deadline day to strengthen us once injuries occur. Hector is the kind of depth that makes a Mawson injury less scary; Chema is the kind of player that MLM will struggle to win back his place if he does get injuried.

Unless we're playing MLM and Mawson as our CB pairing, we still need an RCB. That was always the #1 priority and it's a starter we need, not a squad player, and they need(ed) to be in ASAP
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 23, 2019, 09:31:16 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 22, 2019, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.

Personally I dont. The 'able to do a job' mindset is how you end up with players such as Sakari Mattila. You need to sign players to challenge for starting positions - then McD, Ayite, Christie etc become the backup options...

or they leave and you're in a similar scenario.......

If your backup players leave because you've replaced them with better then thats a good thing. Also, remember there's 46 games this time around, players like Kebano will still play 30+ games this season even if not first choice starters.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 23, 2019, 09:36:24 AM
Bringing in loan players without an option to buy could lead us into the position we had after promotion. Pure loans are fine for a couple of back up players but not starters. We should be looking at PL ready players as Wolves did.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bencher on July 23, 2019, 09:46:13 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 23, 2019, 09:36:24 AM
Bringing in loan players without an option to buy could lead us into the position we had after promotion. Pure loans are fine for a couple of back up players but not starters. We should be looking at PL ready players as Wolves did.

On that note, one of Wolves' best signings before they got promoted was Willy Boly, no less than Jota, Neves etc. A rock at the back for them and able to step up to the PL. We have done well with our forward line but if we are to learn from last season, we need that quality leader at the back who can step up to the PL if we get there. Easier said than done, but it's what would make all the difference.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 23, 2019, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 23, 2019, 09:31:16 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 22, 2019, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.

Personally I dont. The 'able to do a job' mindset is how you end up with players such as Sakari Mattila. You need to sign players to challenge for starting positions - then McD, Ayite, Christie etc become the backup options...

or they leave and you're in a similar scenario.......

If your backup players leave because you've replaced them with better then thats a good thing. Also, remember there's 46 games this time around, players like Kebano will still play 30+ games this season even if not first choice starters.

They usually leave because they want first team football elsewhere though which was my point.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: snarks on July 23, 2019, 09:03:54 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
https://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-and-sheffield-wednesday-chase-tottenham-hotspur-midfielder-1-9892653

Fulham and Sheffield Wednesday chase Tottenham Hotspur midfielder

Fulham are chasing Spurs midfielder Josh Onomah, who Sheffield Wednesday are believed to be keen on re-signing on another loan deal. (Daily Telegraph)

He played reasonsbly well for Aston Villa as sub on playoff against us. He would really add depth at AM allowing Tom Cairney to play 70 minute games when we have three games in a week.

TBH I'd rather let Matt O'Rielly play if we limiting TC, he plays in a similar way Onomah is a more SteffJo type of AM, although Villa fans didn't rate him much from what I recall.

In 17/18, we were losing points whenever Cairney was not playing ninety minutes. We need to improve whenever Cairney is not on the field, backup is essential.

In the first half of 17/18, we dropped 11 points in 9 games with Cairney playing ninety minutes, and dropped 26 points in 14 games without Cairney playing ninety minutes.

The second half of 17/18, we dropped 8 points in 15 games with Cairney playing ninety minutes, and dropped 6 points in 8 games without Cairney playing ninety minutes.







Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 23, 2019, 12:40:56 PM
If you are banking your hopes on Cairney being our saviour then I think you are going to be disappointed. Slavs team was built for Cairney to play and brought the best out of him. Last season proved if he is under pressure with no time on the ball his performances drop. Plus I don't think you will get a full season out of him due to injuries.
Therefore I think we need another creative midfielder in there to share the load or fight for a starting place.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 23, 2019, 01:17:44 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 23, 2019, 12:40:56 PM
Last season proved if he is under pressure with no time on the ball his performances drop.

Well it showed that when playing in a much better division against world class players, his performances drop.
That won't be an issue now.

Although FWIW I agree he cannot be relied on for 46 games but maybe that's where O'Riley steps up...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Classic94 on July 23, 2019, 01:26:33 PM
As it stands, the only position which urgently needs filling is RCB. Odoi is the only natural option we currently have and, while he's performed admirably, cannot be relied upon across 46 games. We absolutely must upgrade here. We could 'get away' with not signing a CM or RB in this window. In fact, this may even open a pathway for the likes of S Sess, Fossey, O'Riley, De la Torre, Edun, Harris...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: I Ronic on July 23, 2019, 01:34:52 PM
Sorry to go back a page or two reference "Loan" players. You can only have  agreed buy clause if the other club agrees. Both Newcastle and Southampton viewed Mitro and Targett as maybe needed dependant on how their season went.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.

He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 23, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.

He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A

I think he has the potential to succeed TC. Need to tie him down to a very long contract with a huge release clause.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 23, 2019, 04:10:46 PM
Just spoken to a Sheffield Wednesday ST holder friend. He told me Onomah is rubbish. Thinks he is better than he is just because his parent club are Spurs. He advised to stay well clear.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bracken White on July 23, 2019, 04:22:13 PM
Hmmm - odd that, he's played for England at Youth & U21 Level. So must have ability & both SP & Matt Wells know him, too & good to back their judgement at this stage.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 23, 2019, 04:26:39 PM
Our team is looking quiet good but it would be great if a couple of really talented youngsters could make the break into the team by Christmas.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 10:15:45 PM
6' 1" CB

https://www.les-transferts.com/rumeur-mercato/transfert-en-angleterre-ou-retour-en-l1-pour-gbamin.html

Exiled in Germany since 2016, Jean-Philippe Gbamin would have this summer the opportunity to return to Ligue 1.

Indeed, the player Mainz, recruited for 5 million euros, appear on the shelves of PSG, Lyon and Marseille, if we believe the German daily Bild.

The 23-year-old, now estimated at 30 million euros, also reportedly caught the eye of Arsenal and Fulham.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 24, 2019, 01:32:49 AM
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.

He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A

I hope Parker doesn't say "you have a big role to play this year" cause it's a lie, as the four midfielders ahead of him will start every game they are available. The truth is the first league game O'Riley will probably play is against Milwall in the middle of a triple header week and if he has a shocker, it will be a while before he gets another chance. Actions speak loader than words, if O'Riley was ready he would have played against Newcastle last season. O'Riley is still younger than when Anguissa played first team football, i think the best is to send him on loan for at least half a season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 24, 2019, 08:52:51 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 24, 2019, 01:32:49 AM
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.

He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A

I hope Parker doesn't say "you have a big role to play this year" cause it's a lie, as the four midfielders ahead of him will start every game they are available. The truth is the first league game O'Riley will probably play is against Milwall in the middle of a triple header week and if he has a shocker, it will be a while before he gets another chance. Actions speak loader than words, if O'Riley was ready he would have played against Newcastle last season. O'Riley is still younger than when Anguissa played first team football, i think the best is to send him on loan for at least half a season.

I want SP to bring him on as a future replacement for TC. It´s a long season & we can´t expect TC to play 50 odd matches .I would introduce him in selected matches as either a starter or at 60-70 minutes. He should be on the bench at least.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 24, 2019, 09:35:32 AM
I like O'Riley, there's something about him that says I will do well. I see him more like Stef Jo than TC though, more of a box to box player for me
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 24, 2019, 09:49:29 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 24, 2019, 09:35:32 AM
I like O'Riley, there's something about him that says I will do well. I see him more like Stef Jo than TC though, more of a box to box player for me

He has been swapped in for Kmac during the friendlies so far, think Parker sees him playing as a deep lying playmaker. He has the frame for doing the physical side as well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 24, 2019, 12:08:50 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 24, 2019, 09:49:29 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 24, 2019, 09:35:32 AM
I like O'Riley, there's something about him that says I will do well. I see him more like Stef Jo than TC though, more of a box to box player for me

He has been swapped in for Kmac during the friendlies so far, think Parker sees him playing as a deep lying playmaker. He has the frame for doing the physical side as well.
Fair enough, Was form what i had seen prior to this season. But I certainly didn't se him in the number 10 role
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on July 24, 2019, 12:28:27 PM
O Reilly, De La Torre, and S Sess all can be slowly worked in this season.

Ideally let's give them three year contracts now (if not already done..) so they're not snapped up!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 24, 2019, 12:28:53 PM
O'RILEY OFF OVERSEAS?

Another top young English talent could soon be developing his career abroad as several clubs look to sign Fulham midfielder Matt O'Riley, Sky Sports News understands.

The Fulham academy product, who has a year left on his current deal, has been part of the club's first team squad in pre-season, but has struggled for opportunities to secure a regular slot in Scott Parker's starting XI.

Braga and Dynamo Zagreb have been joined by Hertha Berlin and Hamburg in monitoring the 18-year old – who has represented England at U16 and U18 levels.

FC Copenhagen are also understood to be keen on O'Riley, who also qualifies to play for Denmark.

Closer to home as many as three Premier League clubs have the classy young midfielder in their sights - although to date we understand Fulham have told potential suitor that O'Riley is not for sale.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on July 24, 2019, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.

He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A


I suggest we play him for his Corner kick ability alone.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 24, 2019, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.

He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A

I suggest we play him for his Corner kick ability alone.

That made me shudder as it reminded me of the poor quality of our corners last season, particularly Seri's.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 24, 2019, 02:23:31 PM
We must get O´Riley signed up with a long contract. He only has a year left & we don´t want him to be snapped up for peanuts. He has got to feature this season to make him want to stay. We have lost too many promising Academy graduates.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 24, 2019, 02:45:02 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2019, 02:23:31 PM
We must get O´Riley signed up with a long contract. He only has a year left & we don´t want him to be snapped up for peanuts. He has got to feature this season to make him want to stay. We have lost too many promising Academy graduates.
Reportedly doesn't want to sign one, also reported he said he will stay this season to see how things go
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on July 24, 2019, 02:45:05 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulhams-offer-21-year-old-declined-club-not-happy-terms/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: dgnffc on July 24, 2019, 02:47:52 PM
How many wingers can we play at any one time?

It's all gone ominously quiet re any defenders!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 24, 2019, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2019, 02:45:05 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulhams-offer-21-year-old-declined-club-not-happy-terms/
Suspect he was a second choice behind cav and Knockeart
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on July 24, 2019, 03:27:28 PM
Quote from: dgnffc on July 24, 2019, 02:47:52 PM
How many wingers can we play at any one time?

It's all gone ominously quiet re any defenders!

same old same old.
Ho hum
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 24, 2019, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 24, 2019, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2019, 02:45:05 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulhams-offer-21-year-old-declined-club-not-happy-terms/
Suspect he was a second choice behind cav and Knockeart

Journalism now days find an old story and find a way to rehash it to make it sound relevant 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 24, 2019, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 24, 2019, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2019, 02:45:05 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulhams-offer-21-year-old-declined-club-not-happy-terms/
Suspect he was a second choice behind cav and Knockeart

Journalism now days find an old story and find a way to rehash it to make it sound relevant

So...who would rather have this player on loan for a year instead of holding on the Ryan Sess for the next two weeks and then keep him for a year instead.


Sorry...I'd rather hold onto Ryan for a year and lose him for a free after.     Hell, we already have Ryan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamfan on July 24, 2019, 04:47:10 PM
Ryan gone by weekend i think
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 05:59:16 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 24, 2019, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 24, 2019, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2019, 02:45:05 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulhams-offer-21-year-old-declined-club-not-happy-terms/
Suspect he was a second choice behind cav and Knockeart

Journalism now days find an old story and find a way to rehash it to make it sound relevant

So...who would rather have this player on loan for a year instead of holding on the Ryan Sess for the next two weeks and then keep him for a year instead.


Sorry...I'd rather hold onto Ryan for a year and lose him for a free after.     Hell, we already have Ryan.

Are you really prepared to turn down £20m as some of the media say, or even £10m for one season's service? If he would come you could probably get Bale for a season for that price. That makes no football sense let alone business sense.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 24, 2019, 06:05:00 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 05:59:16 PM

Are you really prepared to turn down £20m as some of the media say, or even £10m for one season's service? Spurs  could probably get Bale for a season for that price. That makes no football sense let alone business sense.

I would turn down 10 million in a heartbeat. Sessegnon was voted Championship player of the year last time around (before turning 18). Although I think that the vote was blinded by the success story and that he was far from the best player in the division that season, he did show that he can be a force to be reckoned with. Although with our two newest additions I assume that Sess is on his way.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: deano_632 on July 24, 2019, 06:29:38 PM
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/07/24/do-everton-coach-opens-door-for-fulham-and-derby-to-sign-besic-p/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.

If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.

I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.

On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 06:43:27 PM
I dont care about maybes. Ryan is currently under contract and would be a valuable component going back up. If our owners arent concerned about the financial hit I sure as heck aint.

I like Ayite and Kabano but they arent a Ryan Sess... And we need one of those more than we need a payout.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on July 24, 2019, 06:50:04 PM
Got to agree with Statto. Well worth holding on to.

I think Man City nicked a kid off West Brom this summer and they paid for about £5m for him. Or maybe that's what they expect the tribunal to land on, I've got to admit I can't remember the exact circumstance.

Danny Ings went from Burnley to Liverpool for £8m in a tribunal about 3 or 4 years ago.

If those are case studies to go by then I'd bet we'd get at least £10m.

If we kept him, got promoted and the financial benefits that brings and we get £10m in a tribunal.. I reckon we'd have done well out of that.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Colorado White on July 24, 2019, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: FulhamKC on July 22, 2019, 09:10:15 PM
FWIW, Ream played left FB for the US this summer at the Gold Cup.

True, but he didn't get up the field. Which was fine in the system Greg Burhalter was playing. It won't work in SPs plans.


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.

If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.

I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.

On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.

Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.

If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.

I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.

On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.

Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
Why would he get a better deal from his next team? The Khans arent poor and Fulham will be in the EPL.


And ffs.. People sure are quick to write off a teenager thats given 100% on the pitch whenever hes suited up.


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 24, 2019, 08:39:33 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.

If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.

I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.

On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.

Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
Why would he get a better deal from his next team? The Khans arent poor and Fulham will be in the EPL.

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Let's say Sessegnon does end up staying this season and can go for free next summer. A team abroad like a Dortmund, PSG etc. know they can get him for a ~500k development fee. They could offer Sessegnon 100k a week which I highly doubt we'd offer him, which works out as about 4.8m a year. They instantly have someone worth 20-30m to a Premier League team, just for the simple fact he fills the HG quota. If he plays well that goes up to 40-50m.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on July 24, 2019, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.

If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.

I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.

On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.

Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
Why would he get a better deal from his next team? The Khans arent poor and Fulham will be in the EPL.

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Why would Ryan not take the opportunity to play Champions League football? Fulham can't offer him that. The Khan's wealth is also blunted by FFP. They can't have the same wage budget as a Tottenham, because Fulham earns less.

I hope Ryan stays and signs, but it looks like he wants to leave the club for a bigger club.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St Eve on July 24, 2019, 09:15:16 PM
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on July 24, 2019, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.

If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.

I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.

On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.

Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
Why would he get a better deal from his next team? The Khans arent poor and Fulham will be in the EPL.

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Why would Ryan not take the opportunity to play Champions League football? Fulham can't offer him that. The Khan's wealth is also blunted by FFP. They can't have the same wage budget as a Tottenham, because Fulham earns less.

I hope Ryan stays and signs, but it looks like he wants to leave the club for a bigger club.
If you are on the bench it isn't really playing. I still have a feeling he will stay with us
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 24, 2019, 09:17:29 PM
I'd be pretty pi**ed if true. No idea why we'd let him go now
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on July 24, 2019, 09:18:14 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club. 

Shame if true. Thought from the kit pictures etc he was going to help us battle it out.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:18:34 PM
The team, the club, Ryan himself and this messageboard have been distracted by this ongoing saga about interest from Spurs for 18+ months now.

I would be most happy if Ryan signed a new contract with a reasonable buy out clause but that has not happened and looks unlikely.

It really needs to be cleared up by transfer deadline day so that the team can concentrate on returning to the PL.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 09:19:36 PM
I hope hes here for 9 more months. If he wants big boy football then he should go... When someone is willing to pay for his services.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SP on July 24, 2019, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club. 

Wouldn't come as a surprise, good luck to him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 09:21:32 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:18:34 PM
The team, the club, Ryan himself and this messageboard have been distracted by this ongoing saga about interest from Spurs for 18+ months now.

I would be most happy if Ryan signed a new contract with a reasonable buy out clause but that has not happened and looks unlikely.

It really needs to be cleared up by transfer deadline day so that the team can concentrate on returning to the PL.
Its already clear in Tony Khans eyes. Why do you think it isnt?

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 24, 2019, 09:43:14 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PM

Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.

I think you are wrong. We would still get the development fee, wouldn't we? Should be worth north of 5 millions at the very least.

I also think it would be a tad less shortsighted to look at his performances last time he played in the Championship, since we will be playing there this coming season. I would miss him a lot, as would the team and our chances of promotion I believe. Not saying we can't get promoted without him, but if he were to stay our chances would increase.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on July 24, 2019, 09:44:14 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club. 

Would be very upset if real
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 24, 2019, 09:45:18 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 24, 2019, 09:44:14 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club. 

Would be very upset if real

Me too. Would feel a lot less optimistic about our chances of promotion.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 24, 2019, 09:45:36 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club.
So how did your "friend" become the first to break this "news"?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 24, 2019, 09:47:20 PM
Still don't understand why we haven't reported that horrible north London club to the FA got tapping up a contracted player?
They have been on and on and on for a very longtime with no real offer, that they are "interested", as far as I'm aware?
Surely something needs to be done to stop these so called 'big' clubs from constantly flirting with the rules?
Seems to happen every single time we get a good(potentially in this case) player they make noises but don't offer the going rate!
Can't stand them, possibly even more than our horrible neighbours.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.

If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.

I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.

On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.

A tribunal fee of £5m and a net cost of £5m may be a fair assessment by £20+ is the fee generally being banded about.

The assumption most seem to be making is that Sessegnon will return to the best of his form of our promotion year. With his mind distracted by all this transfer talk I doubt this. His form dropped off in a previous transfer window and may do again.

With the £10m offer I was thinking if that was the only offer on the table and Sessegnon's mind was elsewhere so that we would not get value for the £5m net cost particularly now there is competition for his place in the side. That is the worst scenario.

That Sessegnon might sign for us if we got promoted seems to be wishful thinking.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:51:28 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 06:43:27 PM
I dont care about maybes. Ryan is currently under contract and would be a valuable component going back up. If our owners arent concerned about the financial hit I sure as heck aint.

I like Ayite and Kabano but they arent a Ryan Sess... And we need one of those more than we need a payout.

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It is not a matter of just a matter of if the owners are willing to take a hit. A major issue is FFP.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:59:39 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.

If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.

I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.

On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.

Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
Why would he get a better deal from his next team? The Khans arent poor and Fulham will be in the EPL.


And ffs.. People sure are quick to write off a teenager thats given 100% on the pitch whenever hes suited up.


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Again this is a matter of FFP. Spurs will have a higher wage budget.

Also, if Sessegnon goes for a fee assessed by a tribunal fee rather than a transfer fee then he can most likely negotiate a higher salary.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 09:21:32 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:18:34 PM
The team, the club, Ryan himself and this messageboard have been distracted by this ongoing saga about interest from Spurs for 18+ months now.

I would be most happy if Ryan signed a new contract with a reasonable buy out clause but that has not happened and looks unlikely.

It really needs to be cleared up by transfer deadline day so that the team can concentrate on returning to the PL.
Its already clear in Tony Khans eyes. Why do you think it isnt?

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Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by this.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 24, 2019, 10:08:23 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 24, 2019, 09:45:18 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 24, 2019, 09:44:14 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club. 

Would be very upset if real

Me too. Would feel a lot less optimistic about our chances of promotion.

agreed, but i can't see it myself
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on July 24, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Sessegnon 100% going in next few days. Fulham are stringing the deal out as Parker wants Juan Foyth a CB on loan for the season.  Spurs weren't initially keen
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on July 24, 2019, 10:12:57 PM
Are we getting Besic in as a replacement then, I can't see why we would be letting him go if we didn't already have a replacement lined up. If Besic is coming in I think this is a better move than keeping Anguissa as Besic is more suited to the league
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 24, 2019, 10:13:36 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:47:46 PM
£20+ is the fee generally being banded about.

with what portion of that payable immediately, without conditions?

Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:47:46 PM
That Sessegnon might sign for us if we got promoted seems to be wishful thinking.

hmmm, let's just say predictions either way are largely baseless conjecture
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on July 24, 2019, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on July 24, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Sessegnon 100% going in next few days. Fulham are stringing the deal out as Parker wants Juan Foyth a CB on loan for the season.  Spurs weren't initially keen

I don't want foyth in, every time he plays he always looks clumsy. Just look at the red card he got against Bournemouth and that was just poor all round with the lose of the ball to the high tackle. It's a no from more on him. I would rather have carter-vickers instead
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 24, 2019, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: Danitar on July 24, 2019, 10:12:57 PM
Are we getting Besic in as a replacement then, I can't see why we would be letting him go if we didn't already have a replacement lined up. If Besic is coming in I think this is a better move than keeping Anguissa as Besic is more suited to the league

Anguissa will surely play the Johansen role. Besic can fill in for McDonald
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 24, 2019, 10:31:30 PM
Quote from: Danitar on July 24, 2019, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on July 24, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Sessegnon 100% going in next few days. Fulham are stringing the deal out as Parker wants Juan Foyth a CB on loan for the season.  Spurs weren't initially keen

I don't want foyth in, every time he plays he always looks clumsy. Just look at the red card he got against Bournemouth and that was just poor all round with the lose of the ball to the high tackle. It's a no from more on him. I would rather have carter-vickers instead

I'd love Foyth but he won't come.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on July 24, 2019, 10:46:41 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 24, 2019, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: Danitar on July 24, 2019, 10:12:57 PM
Are we getting Besic in as a replacement then, I can't see why we would be letting him go if we didn't already have a replacement lined up. If Besic is coming in I think this is a better move than keeping Anguissa as Besic is more suited to the league


Anguissa will surely play the Johansen role. Besic can fill in for McDonald
Can't see Anguissa getting as many goals as Johansen in that position as he will score and assist more in this league. I see Anguissa playing more of a McDonald role but I feel Besic is better than both of them in that role
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riverside on July 24, 2019, 11:40:21 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on July 24, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Sessegnon 100% going in next few days. Fulham are stringing the deal out as Parker wants Juan Foyth a CB on loan for the season.  Spurs weren't initially keen

Now Foyth is v unlikely BUT if true can play RCB and RB

Foyth received his first call-up to the senior Argentina national football team for a number of friendly games to be played in October 2018.[14] He made his actual debut on 16 November 2018 in a friendly against Mexico where he helped Argentina to a 2–0 win. He won the man of the match award and received wide praise for his performance in this match.[15][16] Foyth was selected for the team at the 2019 Copa América, and made his first start in the competition in the match against Qatar.[17] He started as a right-back in three further games, including the semi-final they lost to Brazil 2–0,[18] and the third-place play-off against Chile, which they won 2–1.


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 24, 2019, 11:51:18 PM
Foyth can be a bit rash sometimes, but if he can develop that out of his game he'll be exceptional. Would give us the versatility to switch to a three as well as he's a sort of hybrid Centre-Back/Right-Back similar to Le Marchand on the left.

Highly, highly doubt we'd be able to get him though. Think our most likely Centre-Back signing is Michael Hector, unless Tony Khan decides to go shopping in the sort of market he's shopped in for Knockaert and Cavaleiro and goes for a low-end Prem Centre-Back who could be available like a Lejeune at Newcastle, although our wage budget must be getting stretched now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 25, 2019, 02:59:24 AM
Quote from: Riverside on July 24, 2019, 11:40:21 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on July 24, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Sessegnon 100% going in next few days. Fulham are stringing the deal out as Parker wants Juan Foyth a CB on loan for the season.  Spurs weren't initially keen

Now Foyth is v unlikely BUT if true can play RCB and RB

Foyth received his first call-up to the senior Argentina national football team for a number of friendly games to be played in October 2018.[14] He made his actual debut on 16 November 2018 in a friendly against Mexico where he helped Argentina to a 2–0 win. He won the man of the match award and received wide praise for his performance in this match.[15][16] Foyth was selected for the team at the 2019 Copa América, and made his first start in the competition in the match against Qatar.[17] He started as a right-back in three further games, including the semi-final they lost to Brazil 2–0,[18] and the third-place play-off against Chile, which they won 2–1.


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If we are first in the championship in the "winter transfer window" and Foyth isn't getting much game time, then I reckon the chance of signing Juan Foyth on loan/buy option conditional on getting promotion would be very strong and if we are leading the Championship when we sign him it would virtually guarantee us of at least maintaining our defensive performance.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: southwest6 on July 25, 2019, 04:14:00 AM
personally think Foyth is a liability. One of my best mates is a spurs fan and so have seen a few games with him where Foyth has featured. Each game he had made pretty bad mistakes... He loves to dilly dally on the ball; a bit like Ream but far worse!

That being said he is a technically gifted player and has the potential to come good, however i fear the championship would be too physical for him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on July 25, 2019, 07:50:19 AM
Foyth would be a great signing, highly rated by Pocch and played a few first team games for Spurs at RCB however I think he is in Pocchs first team plans sadly and also think that if he wasn't a prem team would pick him up
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 10:23:08 AM
I'd 100% take Foyth if offered. I'd like to hear the validity to the Anguissa rumours though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 25, 2019, 11:34:24 AM
I have lost track of things and need to jot down a few points to clarify where we are in this window. I an conscious that there is but nine days to go to the first match and that Parker will be looking to see his first choice team tested against West Ham on Saturday.

1. All of last seasons loan signings have left and some ,like Chambers, need to be replaced.
2. Seri has gone on loan to another club.
3. Mitrovic has extended his contract and we have brought in loan signings  Knockaert and Cavaliero to give us probably the best attack in the championship  which will have cover from Kamara, Ayite'Fonte and Kebano.
4. No new midfield or back four players have been signed so we are relying on last season's defensive line up, less Chambers, which conceded over 80 goals.
5.No new first team permanent transfers have yet been undertaken.
6. Lots of talk about a possible move to Spurs for Sess but the talk has been going on since last season.
7. No talk at all about Anguissa who may want to leave.

I think that is about it, will there be more moves before the window shuts ? If so we are leaving it late again.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: deadcowboys on July 25, 2019, 12:30:15 PM
Quote from: filham on July 25, 2019, 11:34:24 AM
I have lost track of things and need to jot down a few points to clarify where we are in this window. I an conscious that there is but nine days to go to the first match and that Parker will be looking to see his first choice team tested against West Ham on Saturday.

1. All of last seasons loan signings have left and some ,like Chambers, need to be replaced.
2. Seri has gone on loan to another club.
3. Mitrovic has extended his contract and we have brought in loan signings  Knockaert and Cavaliero to give us probably the best attack in the championship  which will have cover from Kamara, Ayite'Fonte and Kebano.
4. No new midfield or back four players have been signed so we are relying on last season's defensive line up, less Chambers, which conceded over 80 goals.
5.No new first team permanent transfers have yet been undertaken.
6. Lots of talk about a possible move to Spurs for Sess but the talk has been going on since last season.
7. No talk at all about Anguissa who may want to leave.

I think that is about it, will there be more moves before the window shuts ? If so we are leaving it late again.

That's about the size of it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on July 25, 2019, 12:51:24 PM
Anguissa close to signing with Villarreal according to AS:

Villarreal: close to closing the signing of Zambo Anguissa
Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at Olympique Marseille two seasons ago and Fulham, his current club, paid for him 25 million.

Villarreal CF already has a shot and is very close to closing the signing of his long-awaited center, for which he has been working for months. That is none other than the Cameroon footballer of Fulham André-Frank Zambo Anguissa, who is very close to being a player of the Castellón team. If there were no unexpected setbacks, Villarreal could announce its signing in the next few days.

With his signing, Villarreal would close one of the reinforcements most needed by the team for this next campaign. Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at the Olympique de Marseille two seasons ago, which earned him to go to the Premier as one of Fulham's outstanding signings, which paid 25 million to close his incorporation.

The season has been disastrous for the player and also for the English club, with the decline of category, which has opened the doors to an exit. And that possible exit is Villarreal, which has long had the middle center in its list of preferences as the first option, although depending on whether its departure could be given in the economic parameters that manage those of the Plana.

Anguissa of 1.84 meters high, is a half center of power and power , something that from the club was sought since last season. The idea is to have height and muscle in that position was a priority, since it also allows to advance the position of Vicente Iborra in the field and have more strength in the air game also near the area. Zambo Anguissa is the one chosen by Villarreal, and he was for many weeks, but his signing to close will be one of those complicated operations and in which there has been

https://as.com/futbol/2019/07/25/primera/1564053679_816071.html
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 25, 2019, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: twang on July 25, 2019, 12:51:24 PM
Anguissa close to signing with Villarreal according to AS:

Villarreal: close to closing the signing of Zambo Anguissa
Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at Olympique Marseille two seasons ago and Fulham, his current club, paid for him 25 million.

Villarreal CF already has a shot and is very close to closing the signing of his long-awaited center, for which he has been working for months. That is none other than the Cameroon footballer of Fulham André-Frank Zambo Anguissa, who is very close to being a player of the Castellón team. If there were no unexpected setbacks, Villarreal could announce its signing in the next few days.

With his signing, Villarreal would close one of the reinforcements most needed by the team for this next campaign. Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at the Olympique de Marseille two seasons ago, which earned him to go to the Premier as one of Fulham's outstanding signings, which paid 25 million to close his incorporation.

The season has been disastrous for the player and also for the English club, with the decline of category, which has opened the doors to an exit. And that possible exit is Villarreal, which has long had the middle center in its list of preferences as the first option, although depending on whether its departure could be given in the economic parameters that manage those of the Plana.

Anguissa of 1.84 meters high, is a half center of power and power , something that from the club was sought since last season. The idea is to have height and muscle in that position was a priority, since it also allows to advance the position of Vicente Iborra in the field and have more strength in the air game also near the area. Zambo Anguissa is the one chosen by Villarreal, and he was for many weeks, but his signing to close will be one of those complicated operations and in which there has been

https://as.com/futbol/2019/07/25/primera/1564053679_816071.html

If he is off, expect to see Harry Arter rumours start flowing again.

Would be a logical replacement.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 25, 2019, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: twang on July 25, 2019, 12:51:24 PM
Anguissa close to signing with Villarreal according to AS:

Villarreal: close to closing the signing of Zambo Anguissa
Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at Olympique Marseille two seasons ago and Fulham, his current club, paid for him 25 million.

Villarreal CF already has a shot and is very close to closing the signing of his long-awaited center, for which he has been working for months. That is none other than the Cameroon footballer of Fulham André-Frank Zambo Anguissa, who is very close to being a player of the Castellón team. If there were no unexpected setbacks, Villarreal could announce its signing in the next few days.

With his signing, Villarreal would close one of the reinforcements most needed by the team for this next campaign. Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at the Olympique de Marseille two seasons ago, which earned him to go to the Premier as one of Fulham's outstanding signings, which paid 25 million to close his incorporation.

The season has been disastrous for the player and also for the English club, with the decline of category, which has opened the doors to an exit. And that possible exit is Villarreal, which has long had the middle center in its list of preferences as the first option, although depending on whether its departure could be given in the economic parameters that manage those of the Plana.

Anguissa of 1.84 meters high, is a half center of power and power , something that from the club was sought since last season. The idea is to have height and muscle in that position was a priority, since it also allows to advance the position of Vicente Iborra in the field and have more strength in the air game also near the area. Zambo Anguissa is the one chosen by Villarreal, and he was for many weeks, but his signing to close will be one of those complicated operations and in which there has been

https://as.com/futbol/2019/07/25/primera/1564053679_816071.html

Would be very disappointed to lose him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 25, 2019, 01:28:13 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 25, 2019, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: twang on July 25, 2019, 12:51:24 PM
Anguissa close to signing with Villarreal according to AS:

Villarreal: close to closing the signing of Zambo Anguissa
Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at Olympique Marseille two seasons ago and Fulham, his current club, paid for him 25 million.

Villarreal CF already has a shot and is very close to closing the signing of his long-awaited center, for which he has been working for months. That is none other than the Cameroon footballer of Fulham André-Frank Zambo Anguissa, who is very close to being a player of the Castellón team. If there were no unexpected setbacks, Villarreal could announce its signing in the next few days.

With his signing, Villarreal would close one of the reinforcements most needed by the team for this next campaign. Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at the Olympique de Marseille two seasons ago, which earned him to go to the Premier as one of Fulham's outstanding signings, which paid 25 million to close his incorporation.

The season has been disastrous for the player and also for the English club, with the decline of category, which has opened the doors to an exit. And that possible exit is Villarreal, which has long had the middle center in its list of preferences as the first option, although depending on whether its departure could be given in the economic parameters that manage those of the Plana.

Anguissa of 1.84 meters high, is a half center of power and power , something that from the club was sought since last season. The idea is to have height and muscle in that position was a priority, since it also allows to advance the position of Vicente Iborra in the field and have more strength in the air game also near the area. Zambo Anguissa is the one chosen by Villarreal, and he was for many weeks, but his signing to close will be one of those complicated operations and in which there has been

https://as.com/futbol/2019/07/25/primera/1564053679_816071.html

If he is off, expect to see Harry Arter rumours start flowing again.

Would be a logical replacement.

And it's a family affair after all.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PM
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism

TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 01:42:38 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PM
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism

TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Wait...so contracts in England aren't legally binding?

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Why would TK sell or loan Anguissa? I understand Fulham need a #6 to replace Chambers but you don't give up your midfielder with the highest ceiling to do it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 01:42:38 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PM
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism

TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Wait...so contracts in England aren't legally binding?

Yes he has a legally binding contract to stay.

Just like Seri did.  :doh:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on July 25, 2019, 01:48:57 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PM
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism

TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Its not a rumour (about Frank) im sorry to say
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 01:53:01 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 01:48:57 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PM
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism

TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Its not a rumour (about Frank) im sorry to say

Thats put a massive dent in our aspirations for me.....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 25, 2019, 01:55:24 PM
Well we really need to get both the Sess. and Anguissa situations sorted without further delay, Parker needs to know whether or not those two are in his squad. If Anguissa is not going to be available he needs replacing and there is not long left before the window closes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on July 25, 2019, 02:00:52 PM
Anguissa has made it clear in the french press that he wants to leave. No real loss for us either as he has been awful, apart from the loss we'll make from our buying fee.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:02:26 PM
Quote from: Chutney on July 25, 2019, 02:00:52 PM
Anguissa has made it clear in the french press that he wants to leave. No real loss for us either as he has been awful, apart from the loss we'll make from our buying fee.

I haven't seen that? Didn't we use him for our new kit release as well? Seems off unless we thought he was actually staying. Had massive hopes for him this year.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on July 25, 2019, 02:14:54 PM
The Forshaw/Besic/Onomah/Arter rumours certainly makes more sense now, unfortunately. I'm convinced that Anguissa and the Championship would have been a perfect match this season, and that if we get promoted he would have been ready for Premier League football this time around.

So IMHO it's a huge blow for us regardless if the deal is permanent or temporary, as he won't get used to the English game in Spain.

Looking into the crystal ball I can see TK replacing him with two players by brining in Besic for some of the Sess cash and Onomah on loan. Which would be far from terrible, but I'd rather have Zambo.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 25, 2019, 02:16:52 PM
Doubt Onomah would be a loan, Tottenham are looking to sell him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if he was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:28:24 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?

I'm not saying he would have done, it was just a hypothetical. And I'd assume he and/or his agent have been pushing for a move- because otherwise I can't see us wanting to let him go.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?

Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:28:24 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
See this is where the chinese whispers get going and all of a sudden hes trouble and wanted to leave. 
I'm not saying he would have done, it was just a hypothetical.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?

Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
Which Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etc
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 25, 2019, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:28:24 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
See this is where the chinese whispers get going and all of a sudden hes trouble and wanted to leave. 
I'm not saying he would have done, it was just a hypothetical.

We all no if you want to leave you just need to hit someone at Motspur Park you dont have to stop training
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 25, 2019, 02:35:15 PM
Arter

FFS

May as well see if Mark f***ing Fotheringham is available too
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:35:55 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 25, 2019, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:28:24 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
See this is where the chinese whispers get going and all of a sudden hes trouble and wanted to leave. 
I'm not saying he would have done, it was just a hypothetical.

We all no if you want to leave you just need to hit someone at Motspur Park you dont have to stop training
Best to keep fit while looking to leave always
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:36:14 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 02:35:15 PM
Arter

FFS

May as well see if Mark f***ing Fotheringham is available too
He is
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?

Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
Which Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etc

If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.

I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?

Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
Which Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etc

If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.

I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.

https://www.mercato365.com/mercato-caleta-chez-grand-ditalie-zambo-anguissa-a-relance-liga-kean-monnaie-dechange-rumeurs-transferts-mardi-25-juin-9170239.html#item=2

"Frank Anguissa (Fulham)
Having broken the bank for the former midfielder of OM (€30 million), Fulham now regrets their investment. Relegated to the Championship, the London club does not want to keep Frank Anguissa and looking for a way out. According to France Football, he is in Spain where Villarreal have made the young midfielder (23 years) their priority."
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?

Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
Which Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etc

If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.

I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.

https://www.mercato365.com/mercato-caleta-chez-grand-ditalie-zambo-anguissa-a-relance-liga-kean-monnaie-dechange-rumeurs-transferts-mardi-25-juin-9170239.html#item=2

"Frank Anguissa (Fulham)
Having broken the bank for the former midfielder of OM (€30 million), Fulham now regrets their investment. Relegated to the Championship, the London club does not want to keep Frank Anguissa and looking for a way out. According to France Football, he is in Spain where Villarreal have made the young midfielder (23 years) their priority."

That's the opposite of what we're looking for. We're looking for direct quotes from Anguissa saying he wants away.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?

Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
Which Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etc

If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.

I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.

https://www.mercato365.com/mercato-caleta-chez-grand-ditalie-zambo-anguissa-a-relance-liga-kean-monnaie-dechange-rumeurs-transferts-mardi-25-juin-9170239.html#item=2

"Frank Anguissa (Fulham)
Having broken the bank for the former midfielder of OM (€30 million), Fulham now regrets their investment. Relegated to the Championship, the London club does not want to keep Frank Anguissa and looking for a way out. According to France Football, he is in Spain where Villarreal have made the young midfielder (23 years) their priority."

That's the opposite of what we're looking for. We're looking for direct quotes from Anguissa saying he wants away.
Its a self feeding rumour mill too, this is in Orange, reporting on the other articles: https://orangefootballclub.com/fr/articles/fulham-villarreal-se-positionne-sur-zambo-anguissa/

" Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa, the Cameroonian midfielder, who left Olympique Marseille for Fulham last summer, had a complicated season, punctuated by relegation to the Championship.

Foot Mercato said the Cottagers want to get rid of the player. The London club should probably not be looking for  a prohibitive amount for the former OM star.

According to information from France Football, Villarreal has made the midfielder 23 years their priority to strengthen their interplay.

Plan B of the Yellow Submarine is none other than Younousse Sankharé, the Senegalese midfielder Girondins de Bordeaux"
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 03:04:23 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?

Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
Which Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etc

If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.

I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.

https://www.mercato365.com/mercato-caleta-chez-grand-ditalie-zambo-anguissa-a-relance-liga-kean-monnaie-dechange-rumeurs-transferts-mardi-25-juin-9170239.html#item=2

"Frank Anguissa (Fulham)
Having broken the bank for the former midfielder of OM (€30 million), Fulham now regrets their investment. Relegated to the Championship, the London club does not want to keep Frank Anguissa and looking for a way out. According to France Football, he is in Spain where Villarreal have made the young midfielder (23 years) their priority."

That's the opposite of what we're looking for. We're looking for direct quotes from Anguissa saying he wants away.
Its a self feeding rumour mill too, this is in Orange, reporting on the other articles: https://orangefootballclub.com/fr/articles/fulham-villarreal-se-positionne-sur-zambo-anguissa/

" Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa, the Cameroonian midfielder, who left Olympique Marseille for Fulham last summer, had a complicated season, punctuated by relegation to the Championship.

Foot Mercato said the Cottagers want to get rid of the player. The London club should probably not be looking for  a prohibitive amount for the former OM star.

According to information from France Football, Villarreal has made the midfielder 23 years their priority to strengthen their interplay.

Plan B of the Yellow Submarine is none other than Younousse Sankharé, the Senegalese midfielder Girondins de Bordeaux"
Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley. 

Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Who or where has it been said he was refusing to train?

Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
Which Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etc

If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.

I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.

https://www.mercato365.com/mercato-caleta-chez-grand-ditalie-zambo-anguissa-a-relance-liga-kean-monnaie-dechange-rumeurs-transferts-mardi-25-juin-9170239.html#item=2

"Frank Anguissa (Fulham)
Having broken the bank for the former midfielder of OM (€30 million), Fulham now regrets their investment. Relegated to the Championship, the London club does not want to keep Frank Anguissa and looking for a way out. According to France Football, he is in Spain where Villarreal have made the young midfielder (23 years) their priority."

That's the opposite of what we're looking for. We're looking for direct quotes from Anguissa saying he wants away.
Its a self feeding rumour mill too, this is in Orange, reporting on the other articles: https://orangefootballclub.com/fr/articles/fulham-villarreal-se-positionne-sur-zambo-anguissa/

" Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa, the Cameroonian midfielder, who left Olympique Marseille for Fulham last summer, had a complicated season, punctuated by relegation to the Championship.

Foot Mercato said the Cottagers want to get rid of the player. The London club should probably not be looking for  a prohibitive amount for the former OM star.

According to information from France Football, Villarreal has made the midfielder 23 years their priority to strengthen their interplay.

Plan B of the Yellow Submarine is none other than Younousse Sankharé, the Senegalese midfielder Girondins de Bordeaux"

Ok finally found the original piece from France Football:

Transfer Market: Zambo Anguissa priority of Villarreal

After Reims, Marseille and Fulham, will Zambo Anguissa discover a new country and a new club this summer? Perhaps. Villarreal is in the hotseat.

After a complicated effort in the Premier League in the Fulham side , Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (23, under contract until 2023) could already be looking for pastures new. The London club are looking for a way out, meanwhile in the middle the Cameroonian currently on way back from Egypt after the Africa Cup of Nations, was bought for nearly 30 million euros from OM in 2018. Villarreal is very interested in a loan from the former Marseille star. In case of failure, the Spanish club is tracking Younousse Sankharé .
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 03:09:25 PM
That still suggests we are looking to offload and not that Zambo wants out.....Unless I've read it wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 25, 2019, 03:13:16 PM
Without Anguissa our midfield consists only of Johansen, Macdonald and Cairney, that is not going to get us through a whole season, we need reinforcements.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on July 25, 2019, 03:18:41 PM
I would be really annoyed if we sold him, unless he's causing disruptions. He will be immense in the Championship
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 03:33:01 PM
No reason to get riled up until the club or Tony Khan make an announcement.    If we see Andre holding up a Villareal banner or kit (ala Seri) then I'll start being concerned.

Changes from last summers additions...

Potential outs
Vietto
Chambers
Seri
Schurrle
Fosu Mensah
Rico
Anguissa

Still on the squad

Joe Bryan
MLM
Mawson
Fabri


:023:

Tony can't be that stupid to think Cisse, Stefjo, Macdonald and Cairney are enough in our midfield to feed the front line.    Seriously...I'm not saying Andre' is a world beater at championship level, but he looks to be the best box to box we had on the squad...and he's going to get sold?


Still not freaking out though.   It's just a move that doesn't make sense unless TK already has gotten an OK for a player of equal skill who may have more championship experience.   


Edit:   If this ends up being BS I will never believe another thing I read on this forum.   Not one thing.


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.

Where would you play him ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 03:45:40 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 03:09:25 PM
That still suggests we are looking to offload and not that Zambo wants out.....Unless I've read it wrong.
The original article says it is us trying to offload him, the other two just quote it. So it could be total BS, it could also be just a loan with the club not being sure he is up to the roughhousing of the Championship. Villareal want a loan.
It would bug me as I was in the camp that he would tear up the division and definitely not a fan of us choosing Arter instead of him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 03:51:05 PM
We're looking at needing a Centre-Back and two Centre-Mids minimum if/when Zambo goes. And that's under the assumption that Parker wants to back S. Sessegnon for Right-Back next season as he seemingly does.

We don't know how much money we can spend this summer, especially as we're seemingly only going to be bringing in one "significant" transfer fee (Sessegnon)- so it's hard to gauge the sort of market we can shop in for those positions. The annoying thing is someone like Fabri could still be here at the end of August and then get sold/loaned out at the last minute- which doesn't benefit us in any way because the market's already closed for us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 03:59:19 PM
If we do effectively swap Arter for Zambo we'll have a lot of players 28+ or turning 28 next season, which is slightly concerning and doesn't really match up with what's one of Tony Khan's seemingly main transfer policies. We need to have some players that we can build up and add value to so we can sell and generally speaking I'd say we need to try for players in the sort of 21-24 age range.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 25, 2019, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 19, 2019, 03:41:48 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 02:12:20 PM
Anguissa is an absolute nailed on to stay



You think?😉

Pogba lite?   Absolutely.   Scott Parker rates him.   As do I.



There are still 3 available CBs that I'd be happy bringing in any of.

Michael Hector
Daniel Ayala
Axel Tuanzebe


Any of the 3 would improve the CB position.   Question is, who wants to come to Fulham.











Hence the.. you think😉



Got told by a couple of people 2 weeks ago he probably wont be here come the start of the season. Chinese clubs were taking an interest as well as a few looking to loan him on the continent.
As for Parker rating him I think there was a touch of the Harvey Elliotts about that, had to play him to put him in the shop window.
Personally dont see what the major fuss is about him, put a few decent performances in when it was all over & for 23million quid thats the least you should expect.
Think he would be great in the championship but cant see him playing there, as soon as the season over betting him & Seri's agent went into overdrive
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.

Where would you play him ?

OK...this is easy.    Left wing...off the bench...but if he's in form you can play him in the starting 11 ahead of Ivan.

Have people really forgotten two seasons ago that quickly?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 04:20:06 PM
Question I'm going to ask everyone here.


If you were Tony Khan would you have loaned Seri?


If you were Tony Khan would you sell Anguissa?   (Thinking about the benefit to the team and it's chance to come back up)

Mind...there are two weeks left in the transfer window.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.

Where would you play him ?

OK...this is easy.    Left wing...off the bench...but if he's in form you can play him in the starting 11 ahead of Ivan.

Have people really forgotten two seasons ago that quickly?

Ahead of Ivan ! Don't think that's going to happen.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 25, 2019, 04:27:24 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 04:20:06 PM
Question I'm going to ask everyone here.


If you were Tony Khan would you have loaned Seri?


If you were Tony Khan would you sell Anguissa?   (Thinking about the benefit to the team and it's chance to come back up)

Mind...there are two weeks left in the transfer window.

Seri was more highly-rated than Anguissa so IMO Seri more justified in wanting to go to another top flight league rather than dropping down with us. There's also more chance of someone paying Seri's book value for him because of his reputation. He's also old and not going to get any bettter, so wants to be making the best of his career over the next couple of years. He's also very small and weak so may never be comfortable in the English leagues.

I'd be surprised if there's the same level/quality of interest in Anguissa. I certainly don't see anyone paying £20m+ for him. His fee was also largely based on his age and potential. He's not good enough for the top flight yet, therefore a year in the Championship is probably the best thing for his development. He has the physical attributes to excel over here.

To answer your question, yes I would have loaned or sold Seri but I'd keep Anguissa.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on July 25, 2019, 04:56:10 PM
If Anguissa goes, it's probably because he wants out, whatever 'some reports say'. The podcast with Tony Khan made clear he was wanting some of those who might want out to make it clear so he could make the moves we needed in the transfer market to have a squad that wanted to be here and fight. If Anguissa has decided he wants to move on, so be it. Of course we will do what we can to replace him, why wouldn't we. We all want business done asap but reality is. tons. if not most clubs do end up doing a flurry of business on the last day or 2 of the window, so I won't be surprised or overly angry if that's the case again. We have FFP to deal with this year so of course well be looking for the best deals we can get. Those often come at the end of the window evidently. It's a risk but its how the business is these days.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 05:23:16 PM
Latest score update on Ceefax
QPR 11
Fulham 2
Still time for us to get 2 or 3 back, it's still all to play for 😉
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 05:31:32 PM
I did post at the end of the season,even though he played last few games,that Parker didn't fancy him.
Maybe and that's what it is,maybe the truth after all what I was told.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on July 25, 2019, 05:38:18 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 03:59:19 PM
If we do effectively swap Arter for Zambo we'll have a lot of players 28+ or turning 28 next season, which is slightly concerning and doesn't really match up with what's one of Tony Khan's seemingly main transfer policies. We need to have some players that we can build up and add value to so we can sell and generally speaking I'd say we need to try for players in the sort of 21-24 age range.
Can't really have the 28 argument if that's the route we take. Plenty of posts on here saying we shouldn't have the age limit... He gets rid and its still wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 05:44:13 PM
Quote"if there are no unexpected setbacks, Villarreal could announce its signing in the next few days."

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We'll see.    Don't bet the house just yet.  (Same with Sess)


Doesn't it seem unrealistic to everyone else that outgoing players that everyone knows could be important pieces in this years promotion run (and both are under contract) are moved with only two weeks to go in the transfer window?

I mean you're going to let Andre' go without already having a backup to him signed?    I can get why people think Sess is going (even though I don't think he is) with the addition of the two wingers brought in...but Fulham haven't brought in diddly squat for the midfield other than Stefjo...who was pretty good in 17/18 but not great.    I know hopes are high on O'Riley...but are you going to sell Anguissa and play O'Riley regular minutes instead?

It seems like, after all the good TK has done this off season...he last minute decides to gamble and hope that he can officially sign a replacement...or run with O'Riley or Cisse?

I don't know...I'm hoping this isn't TK taking a leap.


If you take Sess and Anguissa out of our current squad there are 19 first team players that got regular 1st team minutes on ANY squad last season.

19

That's a small number for a 1st team fighting for promotion...with over 40 games in the season.   
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 05:38:18 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 03:59:19 PM
If we do effectively swap Arter for Zambo we'll have a lot of players 28+ or turning 28 next season, which is slightly concerning and doesn't really match up with what's one of Tony Khan's seemingly main transfer policies. We need to have some players that we can build up and add value to so we can sell and generally speaking I'd say we need to try for players in the sort of 21-24 age range.
Can't really have the 28 argument if that's the route we take. Plenty of posts on here saying we should have the age limit... He gets rid and its still wrong.

I'm completely in favour of the "28 rule". As long as there's exceptions like there was with Babel, for a club our size we need to make sure we have players with resell value- because otherwise we just need one or two bad seasons and we end up like Derby with a load of players 30+ who no other teams would touch with a barge pole because of the wages they're on (Martin, Anya etc.) and sales of players like Will Hughes, Vydra etc. go to funding said players wages rather than significantly improving the playing squad.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 25, 2019, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.

Where would you play him ?
You are right, there is no place for Sess. in our starting eleven, he has to become an impact sub.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fernhurst on July 25, 2019, 06:41:00 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 01:48:57 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PM
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism

TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Its not a rumour (about Frank) im sorry to say

Shame, was looking forward to seeing him perform in the Championship.
He was beginning to get to grip with how we play at the back end of last season. Disappointed but not heart broken. The Everton lad will suit Parkers eye a bit better. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 06:51:20 PM
Quote from: filham on July 25, 2019, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.

Where would you play him ?
You are right, there is no place for Sess. in our starting eleven, he has to become an impact sub.

When I originally posted this it was simply down to the message it would send out to the rest of the football world; similar to Mitro's decision to extend his contract by a year.

I agree that Sess wouldn't necessarily currently get in to the starting line up. Cavaleiro certainly wasn't signed to be his understudy.

Sess didn't live up to expectations last season in an albeit underperforming side and his head will have certainly been turned both in terms of the potential transfer fee and the clubs he has been linked with.

We need to remember he has only just turned 19 and would, in my almost certainly biased opinion, benefit from staying with us, getting his head down and fighting for a place in a team that may well be back in the Premier League this time next year, rather than sign for a top 6 club only to warm the bench at best but in all likelihood be loaned out to Celtic or AZ Alkmaar.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on July 25, 2019, 07:47:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 05:31:32 PM
I did post at the end of the season,even though he played last few games,that Parker didn't fancy him.
Maybe and that's what it is,maybe the truth after all what I was told.

I think the opposite of this is true, after the majority of games since he took over Parker always spoke to Anguissa for long periods of time after the game. Started pretty much every game since Parker came in and Parker did several positive interviews on him as well. I think Parker was a big fan
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Arthur on July 25, 2019, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club. 

Good call.

A day ahead of it breaking in the media.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 25, 2019, 07:47:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 05:31:32 PM
I did post at the end of the season,even though he played last few games,that Parker didn't fancy him.
Maybe and that's what it is,maybe the truth after all what I was told.

I think the opposite of this is true, after the majority of games since he took over Parker always spoke to Anguissa for long periods of time after the game. Started pretty much every game since Parker came in and Parker did several positive interviews on him as well. I think Parker was a big fan

Parker had no option but to say what he did in the interviews, all managers do.
I got told he was told to play him(was it to do with how much he cost?),and he didn't fancy him.
We will see.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on July 25, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 25, 2019, 07:47:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 05:31:32 PM
I did post at the end of the season,even though he played last few games,that Parker didn't fancy him.
Maybe and that's what it is,maybe the truth after all what I was told.

I think the opposite of this is true, after the majority of games since he took over Parker always spoke to Anguissa for long periods of time after the game. Started pretty much every game since Parker came in and Parker did several positive interviews on him as well. I think Parker was a big fan

Parker had no option but to say what he did in the interviews, all managers do.
I got told he was told to play him(was it to do with how much he cost?),and he didn't fancy him.
We will see.

He will leave I think but I do think Parker liked him
https://www.google.com/search?q=parker+anguissa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiToKmS99DjAhUXQkEAHSD3DBEQ_AUIEigC&biw=1920&bih=969
Doubt you will find any other player Parker showed that much attention too last season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 10:01:15 PM
I remember Fergie say wonderful things about Jaap Stam days later he was gone..😊
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 10:03:52 PM
Cracking Electric Storm here in Newmarket at  moment,sky continuously lit up...⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham Tup North on July 25, 2019, 10:06:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 10:01:15 PM
I remember Fergie say wonderful things about Jaap Stam days later he was gone..😊

...but he did write 'That Book' did he not 😁👍
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2019, 10:12:13 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 10:03:52 PM
Cracking Electric Storm here in Newmarket at  moment,sky continuously lit up...⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡

That must have been a shock.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: millsy on July 25, 2019, 11:13:10 PM
Not sure what others saw from Zambo to suggest he would be a success in this lower league. Yes he has some talent but I was unimpressed with his general playing style and also his failure to compete for tough 50:50 balls, not to mention his unwillingness to track back when he/we lost possession.

Of course, he has some raw talent and may improve in leaps and bounds but we couldn't afford to carry him last season and I don't believe we can afford to be patient with him this, if we have hopes of going up again. Problem for me is you can coach lots of things but what I saw from him last season was a lack of heart, which you've either got or you haven't.

Basically, not my type of player and I would rather replace him now, with a combative midfielder, who can put opponents under pressure when they're in possession and pass a simple ball when we are. Think Dave Mackay or Alan Mullery, or even Callum Chambers or a younger Kev MacDonald. There must be someone out there that we can entice.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Texas White on July 26, 2019, 01:33:35 AM
Not fussed on Zambo. He does not seem to have the required desire to be a Fulham great. You need 100% team spirit in the championship.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 02:18:48 AM
Quote from: millsy on July 25, 2019, 11:13:10 PM
Not sure what others saw from Zambo to suggest he would be a success in this lower league. Yes he has some talent but I was unimpressed with his general playing style and also his failure to compete for tough 50:50 balls, not to mention his unwillingness to track back when he/we lost possession.

Of course, he has some raw talent and may improve in leaps and bounds but we couldn't afford to carry him last season and I don't believe we can afford to be patient with him this, if we have hopes of going up again. Problem for me is you can coach lots of things but what I saw from him last season was a lack of heart, which you've either got or you haven't.

Basically, not my type of player and I would rather replace him now, with a combative midfielder, who can put opponents under pressure when they're in possession and pass a simple ball when we are. Think Dave Mackay or Alan Mullery, or even Callum Chambers or a younger Kev MacDonald. There must be someone out there that we can entice.

Zambo would absolutely tear that league apart, he is the only midfielder left that cam make it in Premier League as he is young and will improve. Sorry, Cairney one goal and one assist every 2000 minutes makes him a very good premier league squad player, not a premier league starter.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: OMalleyCat on July 26, 2019, 02:25:59 AM
Zambo will be a big loss, was a bright spark in the tail end of last season. But surely the club knew there was a chance he'd leave so will have players lined up to replace him.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 03:08:22 AM
Still waiting for an official announcement...because as of right now....HE'S STILL A WHITE.   We'll see whose on the squad after West Ham.


Would be nice to see Ryan Fredericks in that game.   Miss him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Moltobueno on July 26, 2019, 05:34:45 AM
According to Diario AS, Zambo is already in Spain, had a medical last night. Loan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:40:06 AM
Quote from: Moltobueno on July 26, 2019, 05:34:45 AM
According to Diario AS, Zambo is already in Spain, had a medical last night. Loan.

Link?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on July 26, 2019, 05:49:19 AM
Zambo's stock continued to rise in the AFCON. If the loan is true, then that's well and good for him. Hopefully, when he returns from the loan, we'll be in the PL, and maybe he'll have to earn his spot back. Regardless, have to be happy for him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 06:44:26 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.

Tony Khan seemed to have a clear strategy last season of buying players to build a solid core Mawson, Anguissa, Seri and Mitro, with wage reduction clauses if we go down that strategy is a bit stupid if we sell the players. Now, we are going to loan/sell the core to buyer wingers and defenders. If we get promoted with Ream, KMac and Stefjo, then i don't think another £100m will save us from relegation. Moronic to sell Anguissa.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 26, 2019, 06:58:05 AM
It isn't always the clubs fault or TK's fault, sometimes it is but not always.

If (and I say if) certain french media reports (as mentioned on this board) are true, then he has told the club he doesn't want to play in the championship, he wouldn't be the first player to do so and he wont be the last either, do we then keep him and have an unhappy player possibly affecting morale (again not saying he will).

If they are true then it would seem best to either sell or loan him so we have a squad focussed on achieving their goals for the season without distractions from within the squad. If they are not true then to me it would seem a little silly to sell or loan a player that in the last 4-6 games of last season got better and better and also during the AFCON looked better than that still.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.

They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.

Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:09:49 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 06:44:26 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.

Tony Khan seemed to have a clear strategy last season of buying players to build a solid core Mawson, Anguissa, Seri and Mitro, with wage reduction clauses if we go down that strategy is a bit stupid if we sell the players. Now, we are going to loan/sell the core to buyer wingers and defenders. If we get promoted with Ream, KMac and Stefjo, then i don't think another £100m will save us from relegation. Moronic to sell Anguissa.

I don't think it's his choice to sell Anguissa. He was involved in all the photo shoots for the new kit, so I think most thought he was staying around.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 07:17:28 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 06:58:05 AM
It isn't always the clubs fault or TK's fault, sometimes it is but not always.

If (and I say if) certain french media reports (as mentioned on this board) are true, then he has told the club he doesn't want to play in the championship, he wouldn't be the first player to do so and he wont be the last either, do we then keep him and have an unhappy player possibly affecting morale (again not saying he will).

If they are true then it would seem best to either sell or loan him so we have a squad focussed on achieving their goals for the season without distractions from within the squad. If they are not true then to me it would seem a little silly to sell or loan a player that in the last 4-6 games of last season got better and better and also during the AFCON looked better than that still.

Scott Parker is a very inexperienced manager if he thinks letting every player leave that's wants to leave will stop with Seri, Anguissa and R.Sess; frankly i'm sure a few more players with be thinking should i join Norwich, Sheffield United or other teams now that those three have left. Isnt Cairney from Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Moltobueno on July 26, 2019, 07:48:57 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:40:06 AM
Quote from: Moltobueno on July 26, 2019, 05:34:45 AM
According to Diario AS, Zambo is already in Spain, had a medical last night. Loan.

Link?

https://as.com/futbol/2019/07/25/primera/1564053679_816071.html
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 26, 2019, 07:58:30 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.

They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.

Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.

But not good enough to redeem the sh1tshow of business he did last summer.

The one redeeming factor he had going for him was his claim that he could keep most of this team together, thereby avoiding a repetition of the key mistakes from last summer (high player turnover, last minute signings etc) and giving us a high probability of going back up.

Now it seems his two marquee signings will both be leaving, and 8 days before the first match we still have two holes in the spine of the team.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:07:53 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 07:58:30 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.

They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.

Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.

But not good enough to redeem the sh1tshow of business he did last summer.

The one redeeming factor he had going for him was his claim that he could keep most of this team together, thereby avoiding a repetition of the key mistakes from last summer (high player turnover, last minute signings etc) and giving us a high probability of going back up.

Now it seems his two marquee signings will both be leaving, and 8 days before the first match we still have two holes in the spine of the team.

We all knew Seri was never going to stay. We were all hopeful with Anguissa, but alas it didn't happen.

We kept hold of the players who we know can make a good impact at this level, i.e. Mawson, Bryan, Cairney and Mitrovic.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: toshes mate on July 26, 2019, 08:25:58 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.

They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.

Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.
In my opinion the words superb and excellent mentioned in the same sentence as TK and his recruitment outfit is a sacrilege. 

TK has massively contradicted himself in one breath arguing it was always more likely than not we would be relegated and in almost the next breath saying Anguissa and Seri were intended as purchases for the future (not at FFC as it would seem to appear as of now).   That makes no sense at all.  The guy is an opportunist and not a far sighted and able football technician with the skill levels and knowledge required to make decisions without a incredible amount of input from his professional football colleagues.   He admits that input didn't happen with SJ but does not explain why; meanwhile SJ has told us 'recruitment isn't my job'.  SP has been joining in - as far as we know - and so let's at least wait and see how the season pans out before we draw any conclusions at all about TK's recent business. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:48:10 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on July 26, 2019, 08:25:58 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.

They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.

Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.
In my opinion the words superb and excellent mentioned in the same sentence as TK and his recruitment outfit is a sacrilege. 

TK has massively contradicted himself in one breath arguing it was always more likely than not we would be relegated and in almost the next breath saying Anguissa and Seri were intended as purchases for the future (not at FFC as it would seem to appear as of now).   That makes no sense at all.  The guy is an opportunist and not a far sighted and able football technician with the skill levels and knowledge required to make decisions without a incredible amount of input from his professional football colleagues.   He admits that input didn't happen with SJ but does not explain why; meanwhile SJ has told us 'recruitment isn't my job'.  SP has been joining in - as far as we know - and so let's at least wait and see how the season pans out before we draw any conclusions at all about TK's recent business. 

So you think the business done so far isn't any good?

Our future for Seri and Anguissa was expected in the PL. The fact we got relegated changes this. As it does for most relegated sides.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 08:48:13 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on July 26, 2019, 08:25:58 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.

They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.

Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.
In my opinion the words superb and excellent mentioned in the same sentence as TK and his recruitment outfit is a sacrilege. 

TK has massively contradicted himself in one breath arguing it was always more likely than not we would be relegated and in almost the next breath saying Anguissa and Seri were intended as purchases for the future (not at FFC as it would seem to appear as of now).   That makes no sense at all.  The guy is an opportunist and not a far sighted and able football technician with the skill levels and knowledge required to make decisions without a incredible amount of input from his professional football colleagues.   He admits that input didn't happen with SJ but does not explain why; meanwhile SJ has told us 'recruitment isn't my job'.  SP has been joining in - as far as we know - and so let's at least wait and see how the season pans out before we draw any conclusions at all about TK's recent business.

I see wisdom in TK 2018 longer term strategy, but i'm left highly confused with TK massively contradicted himself. A strategic plan that includes relegation and bouncing back up shouldn't be abandoned once relegated.

Our number one problem is high player turnover, we need to hold on to players as long as possible. We don't have to sell Anguissa to upgrade RB not every member of the squad needs to be ideal the most important thing is they get use to playing together and we upgrade every player we lose. I thought the summer transfer window of 2018 wasn't too bad, if it meant we had ten players (Fabri, Christie, Mawson, MLM, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney, Kamara and Mitro) on three to five year contracts.

Im very disappointed if TK sell Anguissa, because i thought he was a wise long term investment, frankly for short term investments there were always better options line Danny Drinkwater for around the same price.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
If all this is true about Zambo, then this has just magnified what massive errors of judgement were involved in purchasing them in the first place. What exactly were their impact on the team last year considering they cost Fulham an arm and a leg. Not the sort of characters you need when your under the pump. I got the impression neither of them wanted to be here in the first place.
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, one is in Turkey the other in Spain,  no surprise there. So what exactly was TKs cunning plan in the first place when he shook hands a year ago when he completed both deals, seems a complete disaster from start to finish, and how much did it cost Fulham to have the pleasure of their company.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 26, 2019, 08:48:41 AM
Shame we didn't keep (buy) Olly Norwood
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
If all this is true about Zambo, then this has just magnified what massive errors of judgement were involved in purchasing them in the first place. What exactly were their impact on the team last year considering they cost Fulham an arm and a leg. Not the sort of characters you need when your under the pump. I got the impression neither of them wanted to be here in the first place.
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, no surprise there. So what exactly was TKs cunning plan in the first place when he shook hands a year ago when he completed both deals, seems a complete disaster from start to finish, and how much did it cost Fulham to have the pleasure of their company.

How dare they go and represent their countries #KhanOUT
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 26, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Anguissa leaving will probably tip us over the threshold where "most" (ie more than 50%) of last summer's signings, both by number (7 out of 12) and value (players costing over half the £100m) are no longer with us, just a year later.

Shocking.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:04:47 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, no surprise there.

How dare they go and represent their countries #KhanOUT

Ream should be sold, disgraceful of him to be missing from the preseason.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
If all this is true about Zambo, then this has just magnified what massive errors of judgement were involved in purchasing them in the first place. What exactly were their impact on the team last year considering they cost Fulham an arm and a leg. Not the sort of characters you need when your under the pump. I got the impression neither of them wanted to be here in the first place.
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, no surprise there. So what exactly was TKs cunning plan in the first place when he shook hands a year ago when he completed both deals, seems a complete disaster from start to finish, and how much did it cost Fulham to have the pleasure of their company.

How dare they go and represent their countries #KhanOUT

I think you have wandered onto the wrong thread again. The point I was making was that the whole episode of Seri and Zambo has been a disaster from start to finish, which is magnified by the cost to the club, not exactly value for money, and the contributions have been pitiful. Both examples of poor recruitment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 09:14:22 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Anguissa leaving will probably tip us over the threshold where "most" (ie more than 50%) of last summer's signings, both by number (7 out of 12) and value (players costing over half the £100m) are no longer with us, just a year later.

Shocking.

The problem at this club is not the players coming through the front door, the problem is that it's a revolving door. Anguissa and Seri came with a pay rise and now their paid well leaving.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on July 26, 2019, 09:28:30 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 09:14:22 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Anguissa leaving will probably tip us over the threshold where "most" (ie more than 50%) of last summer's signings, both by number (7 out of 12) and value (players costing over half the £100m) are no longer with us, just a year later.

Shocking.

The problem at this club is not the players coming through the front door, the problem is that it's a revolving door. Anguissa and Seri came with a pay rise and now their paid well leaving.

Agree with both of you
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on July 26, 2019, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
If all this is true about Zambo, then this has just magnified what massive errors of judgement were involved in purchasing them in the first place. What exactly were their impact on the team last year considering they cost Fulham an arm and a leg. Not the sort of characters you need when your under the pump. I got the impression neither of them wanted to be here in the first place.
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, no surprise there. So what exactly was TKs cunning plan in the first place when he shook hands a year ago when he completed both deals, seems a complete disaster from start to finish, and how much did it cost Fulham to have the pleasure of their company.

How dare they go and represent their countries #KhanOUT

I think you have wandered onto the wrong thread again. The point I was making was that the whole episode of Seri and Zambo has been a disaster from start to finish, which is magnified by the cost to the club, not exactly value for money, and the contributions have been pitiful. Both examples of poor recruitment.
Strategy more like bull in a China shop strategy, great business up to this point I suspect Scott's wishes player wise so far,now he's selling  Zambo!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 26, 2019, 09:30:04 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 07:17:28 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 06:58:05 AM
It isn't always the clubs fault or TK's fault, sometimes it is but not always.

If (and I say if) certain french media reports (as mentioned on this board) are true, then he has told the club he doesn't want to play in the championship, he wouldn't be the first player to do so and he wont be the last either, do we then keep him and have an unhappy player possibly affecting morale (again not saying he will).

If they are true then it would seem best to either sell or loan him so we have a squad focussed on achieving their goals for the season without distractions from within the squad. If they are not true then to me it would seem a little silly to sell or loan a player that in the last 4-6 games of last season got better and better and also during the AFCON looked better than that still.

Scott Parker is a very inexperienced manager if he thinks letting every player leave that's wants to leave will stop with Seri, Anguissa and R.Sess; frankly i'm sure a few more players with be thinking should i join Norwich, Sheffield United or other teams now that those three have left. Isnt Cairney from Yorkshire.
I get what your saying, but i was just pointing out it is too simplistic a view to blame TK or the club every time we sell a player that we want to keep, if they don't want to play for the club and make that clear there seems no point in keeping them and having an unhappy squad. If they think they are too good for the championship which obviously Seri did and maybe according to french paper reports (if they are true i have no clue as i said earlier) Anguissa does then get rid and play people who want to be with us.

Personally for me most of Ligue 1 is no better than the championship, so playing premier league football for these players is ore of a stretch so they should play and prove their worth, alas most will not do so as they are fickle and believe agent talk or their own hype
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 09:51:44 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 09:30:04 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 07:17:28 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 06:58:05 AM
It isn't always the clubs fault or TK's fault, sometimes it is but not always.

If (and I say if) certain french media reports (as mentioned on this board) are true, then he has told the club he doesn't want to play in the championship, he wouldn't be the first player to do so and he wont be the last either, do we then keep him and have an unhappy player possibly affecting morale (again not saying he will).

If they are true then it would seem best to either sell or loan him so we have a squad focussed on achieving their goals for the season without distractions from within the squad. If they are not true then to me it would seem a little silly to sell or loan a player that in the last 4-6 games of last season got better and better and also during the AFCON looked better than that still.

Scott Parker is a very inexperienced manager if he thinks letting every player leave that's wants to leave will stop with Seri, Anguissa and R.Sess; frankly i'm sure a few more players with be thinking should i join Norwich, Sheffield United or other teams now that those three have left. Isnt Cairney from Yorkshire.
I get what your saying, but i was just pointing out it is too simplistic a view to blame TK or the club every time we sell a player that we want to keep, if they don't want to play for the club and make that clear there seems no point in keeping them and having an unhappy squad. If they think they are too good for the championship which obviously Seri did and maybe according to french paper reports (if they are true i have no clue as i said earlier) Anguissa does then get rid and play people who want to be with us.

Personally for me most of Ligue 1 is no better than the championship, so playing premier league football for these players is ore of a stretch so they should play and prove their worth, alas most will not do so as they are fickle and believe agent talk or their own hype

Well, if we sell Seri and Anguissa at financial losses, then there is no money for transfers. The net result is instead of having a unhappy Seri and unhappy Anguissa in the starting XI, we have a happy Tayo Edun and a happy Cisse. And frankly, i'd prefer a unhappy Seri and Anguissa at the club, besides once the transfer windows is closed they only have two choices "sulk" or "suck it up". Sunderland got relegated and didn't want unhappy players to stay, by the way the club if players leave we have to pay their incoming transfer fee all in one year instead amortised over the contract.

Alex Ferguson wouldn't care if a player is unhappy, or wants to go elsewhere. Once you develop a culture of letting unhappy players go, players start thinking about who they would prefer to play for and once they think about other options they quickly become uphappy. Cairney would surely be thinking if he says his unhappy then he'll end up back in his home Yorkshire in the Premier League for Sheffield United. Allowing unhappy players to go where they choose in the "road to ruin".

I think the Anguissa move and not wanting unhappy players was Scott Parker's input, he may prove to be a foolish inexperienced manager because booking financial losses won't allow him any money to buy new players. FFP rules crucifies any manager that sells players at losses, i really wonder if he knows what he is getting himself into by letting unhappy leave. HUGE MISTAKE
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rusty shackleford on July 26, 2019, 09:52:48 AM
It annoys the poo out if me when these big time charlies come in on big fees, play like crap and then swan off on loan to top tier teams when they help get us relegated. It annoyed me when it was mitroglou, it annoyed me when it was ruiz, and it annoys me when its these 2. Id rather play them in the reserves, damn the money
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 10:00:08 AM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 26, 2019, 09:52:48 AM
It annoys the poo out if me when these big time charlies come in on big fees, play like crap and then swan off on loan to top tier teams when they help get us relegated. It annoyed me when it was mitroglou, it annoyed me when it was ruiz, and it annoys me when its these 2. Id rather play them in the reserves, damn the money

Fulham are allowing it and they should stop. Seri and Anguissa should play u23s as thenover age players if they don't want to play for First l
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.

All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.

Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.

How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.



Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 26, 2019, 10:10:44 AM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 26, 2019, 09:52:48 AM
It annoys the poo out if me when these big time charlies come in on big fees, play like crap and then swan off on loan to top tier teams when they help get us relegated. It annoyed me when it was mitroglou, it annoyed me when it was ruiz, and it annoys me when its these 2. Id rather play them in the reserves, damn the money

100% agree with this

Hate to say it, but I'll even have similar feelings about Sessegnon if he goes to Spurs
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 10:11:17 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.

All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.

Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.

How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.

Yep, still waiting on that too.

However, if Parker thinks Arter is an upgrade on Anguissa....I have to question Parker tbh.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Why is everyone going on about Harry Arter? I get the nepotism thing, but I haven't seen much linking us to him otherwise.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 26, 2019, 10:17:28 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 09:51:44 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 09:30:04 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 07:17:28 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 06:58:05 AM
It isn't always the clubs fault or TK's fault, sometimes it is but not always.

If (and I say if) certain french media reports (as mentioned on this board) are true, then he has told the club he doesn't want to play in the championship, he wouldn't be the first player to do so and he wont be the last either, do we then keep him and have an unhappy player possibly affecting morale (again not saying he will).

If they are true then it would seem best to either sell or loan him so we have a squad focussed on achieving their goals for the season without distractions from within the squad. If they are not true then to me it would seem a little silly to sell or loan a player that in the last 4-6 games of last season got better and better and also during the AFCON looked better than that still.

Scott Parker is a very inexperienced manager if he thinks letting every player leave that's wants to leave will stop with Seri, Anguissa and R.Sess; frankly i'm sure a few more players with be thinking should i join Norwich, Sheffield United or other teams now that those three have left. Isnt Cairney from Yorkshire.
I get what your saying, but i was just pointing out it is too simplistic a view to blame TK or the club every time we sell a player that we want to keep, if they don't want to play for the club and make that clear there seems no point in keeping them and having an unhappy squad. If they think they are too good for the championship which obviously Seri did and maybe according to french paper reports (if they are true i have no clue as i said earlier) Anguissa does then get rid and play people who want to be with us.

Personally for me most of Ligue 1 is no better than the championship, so playing premier league football for these players is ore of a stretch so they should play and prove their worth, alas most will not do so as they are fickle and believe agent talk or their own hype

Well, if we sell Seri and Anguissa at financial losses, then there is no money for transfers. The net result is instead of having a unhappy Seri and unhappy Anguissa in the starting XI, we have a happy Tayo Edun and a happy Cisse. And frankly, i'd prefer a unhappy Seri and Anguissa at the club, besides once the transfer windows is closed they only have two choices "sulk" or "suck it up". Sunderland got relegated and didn't want unhappy players to stay, by the way the club if players leave we have to pay their incoming transfer fee all in one year instead amortised over the contract.

Alex Ferguson wouldn't care if a player is unhappy, or wants to go elsewhere. Once you develop a culture of letting unhappy players go, players start thinking about who they would prefer to play for and once they think about other options they quickly become uphappy. Cairney would surely be thinking if he says his unhappy then he'll end up back in his home Yorkshire in the Premier League for Sheffield United. Allowing unhappy players to go where they choose in the "road to ruin".

I think the Anguissa move and not wanting unhappy players was Scott Parker's input, he may prove to be a foolish inexperienced manager because booking financial losses won't allow him any money to buy new players. FFP rules crucifies any manager that sells players at losses, i really wonder if he knows what he is getting himself into by letting unhappy leave. HUGE MISTAKE
I don't disagree but just saying that's what most clubs would do. We overpaid last summer in my opinion for both, so if we were to sell we wouldn't get that money back being a championship club as buyers would see as distressed sellers, a loan from that point (although I am against it) makes sense as if we go up we have two players who can play and if not then can get a higher value, but again i doubt would be what we paid as i think we overpaid.

Re Fergie doing what we did is exactly what he did with Berra at the end and Keane to a degree. Didn't want players who were rocking the boat as they were not playing.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 26, 2019, 10:19:30 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.

All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.

Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.

How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.
That's why i said in my post if the reports are true as I haven't seen them and papers make up a lot of rubbish at times.

Everyone will believe what they want too as always, but no one actually knows anything as i doubt anyone on here is close enough to the club to know what is what and if they are probably shouldn't put anything on here lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 26, 2019, 10:31:59 AM
It is annoying having the Sess. and Anguissa doubts hanging around at the beginning of a new season, I personally have had enough of it and if they want away I think we should engineer a move ASAP, recover as much money as we can and seek a new midfield playerbofore the window shuts.

However this should be Scott Parker's call, he knows the value of each player and the possible negative effect of having players around who want a move.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jim© on July 26, 2019, 10:32:49 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Anguissa leaving will probably tip us over the threshold where "most" (ie more than 50%) of last summer's signings, both by number (7 out of 12) and value (players costing over half the £100m) are no longer with us, just a year later.

Shocking.

Hang on, you're being a little creative with numbers there- 5 of the 12 were loans so always going back (Schurrle could have stayed another season but really?) and only Seri has actually gone (on loan so could come back if we so wished).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 10:33:43 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Why is everyone going on about Harry Arter? I get the nepotism thing, but I haven't seen much linking us to him otherwise.

We've been linked with him since January. Lots of reports linking us. True or not, I don't know but its been widely reported.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 26, 2019, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: Jim© on July 26, 2019, 10:32:49 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Anguissa leaving will probably tip us over the threshold where "most" (ie more than 50%) of last summer's signings, both by number (7 out of 12) and value (players costing over half the £100m) are no longer with us, just a year later.

Shocking.

Hang on, you're being a little creative with numbers there- 5 of the 12 were loans so always going back (Schurrle could have stayed another season but really?) and only Seri has actually gone (on loan so could come back if we so wished).
Not during the season as apparently no recall clause
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 10:41:44 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 10:33:43 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Why is everyone going on about Harry Arter? I get the nepotism thing, but I haven't seen much linking us to him otherwise.

We've been linked with him since January. Lots of reports linking us. True or not, I don't know but its been widely reported.

Fair enough. I recall the rumours last season, but I haven't been following the rumours outside of transfer windows.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamfan on July 26, 2019, 11:03:23 AM
Man U in for Sess now. Could get a better price for him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 26, 2019, 11:44:01 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 02:18:48 AM
Quote from: millsy on July 25, 2019, 11:13:10 PM
Not sure what others saw from Zambo to suggest he would be a success in this lower league. Yes he has some talent but I was unimpressed with his general playing style and also his failure to compete for tough 50:50 balls, not to mention his unwillingness to track back when he/we lost possession.

Of course, he has some raw talent and may improve in leaps and bounds but we couldn't afford to carry him last season and I don't believe we can afford to be patient with him this, if we have hopes of going up again. Problem for me is you can coach lots of things but what I saw from him last season was a lack of heart, which you've either got or you haven't.

Basically, not my type of player and I would rather replace him now, with a combative midfielder, who can put opponents under pressure when they're in possession and pass a simple ball when we are. Think Dave Mackay or Alan Mullery, or even Callum Chambers or a younger Kev MacDonald. There must be someone out there that we can entice.

Zambo would absolutely tear that league apart, he is the only midfielder left that cam make it in Premier League as he is young and will improve. Sorry, Cairney one goal and one assist every 2000 minutes makes him a very good premier league squad player, not a premier league starter.

According to his Fulham player profile, Anguissa played 1789 minutes and scored no goals. It doesn't give assists. So it seems hard to argue on a stats basis any significant difference to Cairney.

Cairney had an injury disrupted season but when he regained his form it was clear that he is the focal point of the team and more than capable of holding his own in the PL.

Statistics can be insightful but must be interpreted very carefully. Most just offer a superficial picture.

A famous example from way back was that in a match Geoff Hurst touched the ball for a mere 15 seconds. In that time he managed to score a hat trick.

There is more to the game than statistics (see our recruitment performance).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 26, 2019, 12:25:05 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 10:33:43 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Why is everyone going on about Harry Arter? I get the nepotism thing, but I haven't seen much linking us to him otherwise.

We've been linked with him since January. Lots of reports linking us. True or not, I don't know but its been widely reported.

He's Scott Parker's brother in law. He's surplus to requirements at AFCB.

2+2 =?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 26, 2019, 12:27:31 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
If all this is true about Zambo, then this has just magnified what massive errors of judgement were involved in purchasing them in the first place. What exactly were their impact on the team last year considering they cost Fulham an arm and a leg. Not the sort of characters you need when your under the pump. I got the impression neither of them wanted to be here in the first place.
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, no surprise there. So what exactly was TKs cunning plan in the first place when he shook hands a year ago when he completed both deals, seems a complete disaster from start to finish, and how much did it cost Fulham to have the pleasure of their company.

How dare they go and represent their countries #KhanOUT

I think you have wandered onto the wrong thread again. The point I was making was that the whole episode of Seri and Zambo has been a disaster from start to finish, which is magnified by the cost to the club, not exactly value for money, and the contributions have been pitiful. Both examples of poor recruitment.

Nail on head Mr Mammoth. Poor recruitment that cost the club millions with little impact nor return.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.

All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.

Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.

How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.

I'm still waiting to see him holding up something saying Villareal.  I mean, he took his physical 2 days ago...yet we've got nothing other than a spanish report with no meat behind it.


Now, he may be going...   but I'm still skeptical.

English media normally jump all over this.  Especially a club based in London.   No pictures, no player statements, no manager statements
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on July 26, 2019, 05:19:58 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.

All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.

Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.

How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.

I'm still waiting to see him holding up something saying Villareal.  I mean, he took his physical 2 days ago...yet we've got nothing other than a spanish report with no meat behind it.


Now, he may be going...   but I'm still skeptical.

English media normally jump all over this.  Especially a club based in London.   No pictures, no player statements, no manager statements
He is going and it's been ready for a few days. The link further down is from someone close to the club who does some TV work for them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Captain Fulhamerica on July 26, 2019, 05:25:14 PM
Have to hope TK has a midfielder lined up if Anguissa is really leaving. Otherwise he's creating a huge liability in the squad with such a thin central midfield.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2019, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.

All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.

Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.

How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.

I'm still waiting to see him holding up something saying Villareal.  I mean, he took his physical 2 days ago...yet we've got nothing other than a spanish report with no meat behind it.


Now, he may be going...   but I'm still skeptical.

English media normally jump all over this.  Especially a club based in London.   No pictures, no player statements, no manager statements

Evening Standard saying he in talks now.😎
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Number Six on July 26, 2019, 05:27:30 PM
To lose Anguissa and Seri would mean last season truly was a complete disaster.

Anguissa's potential was the one shining light and even then we were probably clutching at straws. To lose him now would really mean it was an utter waste of time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 26, 2019, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Number Six on July 26, 2019, 05:27:30 PM
To lose Anguissa and Seri would mean last season truly was a complete disaster.

Anguissa's potential was the one shining light and even then we were probably clutching at straws. To lose him now would really mean it was an utter waste of time.

Agree entirely
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2019, 06:07:02 PM
Villarreal's twitter is teasing the signing, so it'll probably be announced tonight.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 26, 2019, 06:11:56 PM
That £100m transfer money last season was spent on Bryan , Mawson, Mitrovic, Seri, Le Merchand and Anguissa.

To hold on to four out of six as well as Cairney is more than we could have expected. We should be counting our blessings.

However, if Anguissa leaves we are short of a centre mid player, we need to act quickly before the window closes, unless of course Parker thinks we have youngsters up to the task.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2019, 06:14:53 PM
Wage wise we've probably effectively just done Knockaert and Cavaleiro for Zambo and Seri probably with a bit of change depending on what the Relegation drop % was for Zambo and Seri.

Would imagine we've got a set budget that we can't exceed for FFP reasons- so getting Zambo's wages off the books + a loan fee should hopefully fund another incoming.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 26, 2019, 06:38:54 PM
Todd Kane, Chelsea right back, has been released and is free to find another club, played over a 100 games in The Championship whilst on loan, would he be a decent addition for little outlay ?
Does anybody know much about him ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bracken White on July 26, 2019, 06:40:37 PM
Have no qualms about SP's strategy - believe there's someone lined up to replace Anguissa & to be frank, I'll be a lot happier signing a quality player who wants to play for FFC as opposed to these mercenaries. We've all seen how the latter perform.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2019, 06:46:17 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 26, 2019, 06:38:54 PM
Todd Kane, Chelsea right back, has been released and is free to find another club, played over a 100 games in The Championship whilst on loan, would he be a decent addition for little outlay ?
Does anybody know much about him ?

I can't see us signing a Right-Back now. Unless Christie ends up sold or S. Sessegnon goes as part of the R. Sessegnon deal. Think Parker's backing S. Sessegnon to have a breakthrough season.

Think we'll end up with 3 more signings a Centre-Back and two Centre-Mids. One Anchor and one more Box-to-Box to provide competition to/an upgrade on McDonald and Johansen.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2019, 06:52:34 PM
A journalist called Duncan Castles said we have a two year option on Sessegnon's deal. Surely that isn't true, because it would be more common knowledge by now if it was.
(https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/794097/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Ryan-Sessegnon-Fulham-Tottenham-Transfer-Window-podcast)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mrmicawbers on July 26, 2019, 07:22:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2019, 06:14:53 PM
Wage wise we've probably effectively just done Knockaert and Cavaleiro for Zambo and Seri probably with a bit of change depending on what the Relegation drop % was for Zambo and Seri.

Would imagine we've got a set budget that we can't exceed for FFP reasons- so getting Zambo's wages off the books + a loan fee should hopefully fund another incoming.


My thoughts exactly.Would we let him go with no one else joining?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 26, 2019, 07:39:16 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2019, 06:52:34 PM
A journalist called Duncan Castles said we have a two year option on Sessegnon's deal. Surely that isn't true, because it would be more common knowledge by now if it was.
(https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/794097/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Ryan-Sessegnon-Fulham-Tottenham-Transfer-Window-podcast)

anyone read the

"He has one year left of contract at Fulham, however they also hold a two-year option to extend that deal."

So why aren't we extending it!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45


Wanted 35m
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45


Wanted 35m
Was just going by the news paper reports last month and what sky sports said a couple of weeks back

Not that i am saying either are correct just what was being reported
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFCFOREVER on July 26, 2019, 07:53:41 PM
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/july/26/anguissa-departs
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 26, 2019, 08:11:39 PM
We are mighty thin in DM & CM. Added that we need a RCB & possibly RB is starting to worry me. I can see a mad last day panic again just to swell the numbers.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 08:18:50 PM
Ugh....cant believe anyone who thinks the last window was in any way productive considering not only the terrible season we produced but the sorry squad we now find ourselves with. Lacklustre at the back, massively thin on the ground in the middle and by the looks of it, 90% of our budget on the front 4. It might be exciting football, but its a rollercoaster  and a nearly team waiting to happen. Not impressed. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 26, 2019, 08:21:43 PM
James Husband has moved from Norwich to Blackpool:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49125591
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BernieBoy on July 26, 2019, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 26, 2019, 08:11:39 PM
We are mighty thin in DM & CM. Added that we need a RCB & possibly RB is starting to worry me. I can see a mad last day panic again just to swell the numbers.

I agree.

At very least we need 1 x CDM/CM and a RCB. That would leave us light and relying too much on some of the kids we have, although I would like to see some of them get some game time this year. We can't grumble too much, as we've retained TC and Mitro, whilst adding real quality in the two wingers.

Let's hope TK has something up his sleeve in the next few days, as going into the Barnsley game we are already looking light, with Sessegnon likely to go also.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sir Craven on July 26, 2019, 08:54:51 PM
Anyone else notice that Edun is not named on the back of tomorrow's programme? Maybe he's off? Might be just a printing error. Everyone else is on there except Elliott
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 26, 2019, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 08:18:50 PM
Ugh....cant believe anyone who thinks the last window was in any way productive considering not only the terrible season we produced but the sorry squad we now find ourselves with. Lacklustre at the back, massively thin on the ground in the middle and by the looks of it, 90% of our budget on the front 4. It might be exciting football, but its a rollercoaster  and a nearly team waiting to happen. Not impressed. 
90% of our budget - you know that for fact I take it?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 26, 2019, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45


Wanted 35m
Was just going by the news paper reports last month and what sky sports said a couple of weeks back

Not that i am saying either are correct just what was being reported

it will never be disclosed in detail but even if the reports say we're getting 20, i bet barely half that will be payable up front.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Wanted 35m
Know if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 26, 2019, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 08:18:50 PM
Ugh....cant believe anyone who thinks the last window was in any way productive considering not only the terrible season we produced but the sorry squad we now find ourselves with. Lacklustre at the back, massively thin on the ground in the middle and by the looks of it, 90% of our budget on the front 4. It might be exciting football, but its a rollercoaster  and a nearly team waiting to happen. Not impressed. 
90% of our budget - you know that for fact I take it?

I do not, but we brought him two wingers on EPL contracts and have upgraded 2 contracts on high earners already. 90% was drastic but Its clear thats where the majority of the budget is.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 26, 2019, 10:10:06 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45


Wanted 35m
Was just going by the news paper reports last month and what sky sports said a couple of weeks back

Not that i am saying either are correct just what was being reported

it will never be disclosed in detail but even if the reports say we're getting 20, i bet barely half that will be payable up front.
Tend to agree

Would take 20 and wanna a right now lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Wanted 35m
Know if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.


Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 10:43:23 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Wanted 35m
Know if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.


Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday

Cheers!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 26, 2019, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Wanted 35m
Know if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.


Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday

As in tomorrow?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:50:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 26, 2019, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Wanted 35m
Know if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.


Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday

As in tomorrow?





Sorry meant next Saturday
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rock on July 26, 2019, 11:51:58 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:50:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 26, 2019, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Wanted 35m
Know if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.


Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday

As in tomorrow?





Sorry meant next Saturday


Appropriate. Why sign a single defender to begin with.

Thanks everyone for this thread - a lot of us like those of you who have a sniff of info that share it, cheers
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 27, 2019, 07:59:05 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:50:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 26, 2019, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Given a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Wanted 35m
Know if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.


Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday

As in tomorrow?

Sorry meant next Saturday
Has to be in by Friday as the market closes on the 2nd August doesn't it?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Arthur on July 27, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 27, 2019, 07:59:05 AM

Has to be in by Friday as the market closes on the 2nd August doesn't it?

Sorry meant next Saturday

We can sign players up until Thursday 8th August.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 27, 2019, 12:47:08 PM
I thought that this season we would do our business early so that the new players could take part in all the pre season. It looks like we will play our 1st league game with a patchwork defence and midfield.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 27, 2019, 12:54:59 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 27, 2019, 12:47:08 PM
I thought that this season we would do our business early so that the new players could take part in all the pre season. It looks like we will play our 1st league game with a patchwork defence and midfield.

We seem to be in this predicament every window now.
Let's hope they surprise us in next few days.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: colinwhite on July 27, 2019, 01:01:03 PM
Not just us but nearly every other team as well,its the way the market works.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Texas White on July 27, 2019, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 27, 2019, 01:01:03 PM
Not just us but nearly every other team as well,its the way the market works.

The market is too long. A shorter time period would stop the bigger teams dictating what happens.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 27, 2019, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: Arthur on July 27, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 27, 2019, 07:59:05 AM

Has to be in by Friday as the market closes on the 2nd August doesn't it?

Sorry meant next Saturday

We can sign players up until Thursday 8th August.
I thought it closed the Friday before the season started, maybe that's the prem then as sure i remember that last year
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 27, 2019, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 27, 2019, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: Arthur on July 27, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: junior white on July 27, 2019, 07:59:05 AM

Has to be in by Friday as the market closes on the 2nd August doesn't it?

Sorry meant next Saturday

We can sign players up until Thursday 8th August.
I thought it closed the Friday before the season started, maybe that's the prem then as sure i remember that last year

All the English windows close when the Prem starts. Last year it was only the Prem, but this year it is all the leagues.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 27, 2019, 03:57:05 PM
QPR have signed Todd Kane right back from Chelsea and Marc Pugh Midfielder from Bournemouth on free transfers
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 27, 2019, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 27, 2019, 03:57:05 PM
QPR have signed Todd Kane right back from Chelsea and Marc Pugh Midfielder from Bournemouth on free transfers

Looks like  Jordan Hugill as well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.




So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.

So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??

Because he was yet to recover from a knee operation
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 27, 2019, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.




So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??

At the time everyone thought it was a terrific window. Hindsight what a wonderful thing!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.

So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??

Because he was yet to recover from a knee operation




Ok so you think no clubs ever signed a player recuperating from a common injury  before? He was actually told he could play on with it at Swansea.
He had a routine operation to clean up his cartilage & a bit of wear & tear . No reason why any club would have reservations about signing him or any other player in the same circumstances pending a successful medical, he was only a few weeks behind the rest in pre season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2019, 07:43:58 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.

I've said all along we needed 5 or 6 signings this summer. I think I said I wanted a Centre-Back, Right-Back, Defensive-Mid and two Forwards, and that was when I thought Zambo would stay. I don't think we're in for a Right-Back considering we've not even been linked with one and we're nearly in August- so we're probably aiming for a Centre-Back and two Centre-Mids before the end of the window. Which I'd be fine with.

I've also said all along that we'll end up leaving 1 or 2 of those deals until Deadline Day.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 27, 2019, 08:01:09 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.

So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??

Because he was yet to recover from a knee operation




Ok so you think no clubs ever signed a player recuperating from a common injury  before? He was actually told he could play on with it at Swansea.
He had a routine operation to clean up his cartilage & a bit of wear & tear . No reason why any club would have reservations about signing him or any other player in the same circumstances pending a successful medical, he was only a few weeks behind the rest in pre season

At the end of the day, if everyone on here had been asked to rank three players in today's match, Wilshere, Mawson and Mitrovic according to likelihood of getting injured, everyone on here would have said (1) Wilshere, (2) Mawson and (3) Mitrovic in that order. Because everyone knows some players are more/less likely to get injured than others. Because every injury/operation, even those that seem straightforward, carries a risk that the injury won't fully recover... Because every injury at least slightly reduces the sharpness of nerves and the complex system of balance/coordination that prevents further injuries.... Because many injuries are indicative of some inherent weakness, howsoever minor, in the player... Etc etc. Whether they admit it or deny it and try to defend the signing, everyone on here knows it, which is why no one would want a player like Wilshere for example, even when he's ostensibly fit. We took a risk.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on July 27, 2019, 09:23:06 PM
Photo of Josh Onomah circulating twitter, sat at the game today. Seems he could be on his way to us as part of the Sess deal. Can't say I'm enthralled by the prospect, hasn't done anything of note at his last 2 loan clubs in the champ. You'd assume he's likely to be on the recommendation Scott and his assistant...let's hope they know something the fans of villa and Sheffield Wednesday don't! Really hope we don't lose Steven Sess too but that looks very possible. RB and an absolute must to strengthen there if that happens, especially with Marlon Fossey's injury last year and him not getting any minutes at the moment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 09:29:59 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 27, 2019, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.




So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??

At the time everyone thought it was a terrific window. Hindsight what a wonderful thing!!

How else are you meant to judge a transfer other than with hindsight....mean this in the nicest way but what a silly comment...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on July 27, 2019, 09:36:02 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 09:29:59 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 27, 2019, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.




So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??

At the time everyone thought it was a terrific window. Hindsight what a wonderful thing!!

How else are you meant to judge a transfer other than with hindsight....mean this in the nicest way but what a silly comment...

The point is the person making the decision can only make it in the moment, they can't see the future, they're not privy to the hindsight. If we more or less all agree that, in the moment its made, a signing seems a good idea, and we agree with the person who made the call... its a bit cheap, and indeed silly to chastise the person who made the signing later if it doesn't workout how you yourself thought it would at the time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fernhurst on July 27, 2019, 10:05:23 PM
That's Swansea and Levy giving us a right rogering. I can't believe what's happened to Alfie AGAIN today. 

The odds for promotion must have seriously dropped
Good to know Setfjo's knock is just impact. A silver lining.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 27, 2019, 10:21:29 PM
QPR make their 13th signing today , with two more expected in by Monday,
I've never met anybody in my entire life that hates QPR more than I do, but I'll tell you what , I'm taking my hat off to them, their parachute payments ended this summer, and they literally haven't got a pot to pee in, but they've managed to build an entire squad without spending a penny,
Fulham spent £70 million on Seri, Anguissa and Mawson !!! That's scandalous,
I had them as favourites to go down, think they will stay up comfortably now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
Quote from: jayffc on July 27, 2019, 09:36:02 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 09:29:59 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 27, 2019, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.




So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??

At the time everyone thought it was a terrific window. Hindsight what a wonderful thing!!

How else are you meant to judge a transfer other than with hindsight....mean this in the nicest way but what a silly comment...

The point is the person making the decision can only make it in the moment, they can't see the future, they're not privy to the hindsight. If we more or less all agree that, in the moment its made, a signing seems a good idea, and we agree with the person who made the call... its a bit cheap, and indeed silly to chastise the person who made the signing later if it doesn't workout how you yourself thought it would at the time.

Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 27, 2019, 11:36:33 PM
The Sun reporting tonight that Harry Arter joining us on a season long loan, with Josh Onomah of Spurs at the game today that's much needed strengthening for midfield.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 12:24:17 AM
The Daily Record are reporting that QPR have bid £3 million for Scott McKenna of Aberdeen,  we should be all over this, especially with Mawson injured, McKenna is a decent centre back and far better than Ream, Odoi and Le Marchand in my honest opinion.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM

Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.

I think the point (although not super clear from previous posts) is that judging only on result without further context is pointless. Therefore, it is not hindsight as such, but the pretending that the actual result was the only reasonable result that is the problem. Thus, the debate.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 12:38:05 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM

Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.

I think the point (although not super clear from previous posts) is that judging only on result without further context is pointless. Therefore, it is not hindsight as such, but the pretending that the actual result was the only reasonable result that is the problem. Thus, the debate.

What's the point in the debate when you have the outcome? We know he *could* of been a good signing, but in a results driven industry, it fails on both accounts. The transfers didn't help us stay up, AND a significant portion of the investment has been shipped out on loan and won't play so however you want to look at it, its not favourable.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 01:04:36 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 12:38:05 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM

Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.

I think the point (although not super clear from previous posts) is that judging only on result without further context is pointless. Therefore, it is not hindsight as such, but the pretending that the actual result was the only reasonable result that is the problem. Thus, the debate.

What's the point in the debate when you have the outcome? We know he *could* of been a good signing, but in a results driven industry, it fails on both accounts. The transfers didn't help us stay up, AND a significant portion of the investment has been shipped out on loan and won't play so however you want to look at it, its not favourable.

I assume we are discussing the Mawson signing here (forgive me if that is not the case). If so, the point (which should actually be obvious) is to debate whether it was a reasonable signing or not. No one (I would assume) believes it has turned out particularly well so far. But to make a silly example (in case the point is still unclear), if we would have signed Messi for 500K and he then got run over by an old Volvo the next day with a fatal outcome, would you still claim that it was a bad signing (not result, which was obviously bad)?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 01:29:56 AM
It's not just Mawson but he's still an example of a unsuccessful signing. In your scenario of 500k for Messi who doesn't kick a ball and gets run over, yes, hindsight and results would suggest an unsuccessful recruitment outcome as he wouldn't of done anything at the club. For me, there's not much difference if a player fails to have an impact on pitch due to insufficient quality or injury as the bottom line is the same, it didn't work out for whatever reason.

As for making it sound obvious, I'm surprised the idea that post analysis of a players success is driven by hindsight isn't obvious. It's the only measure you can have. You can say 'in the past it was an decent signing at the time' but in the present and likely of knee injuries persist or force early retirement (heaven forbid) it's been a failure both in us getting relegated and now, short of quality on the same position we found ourselves urgently needing in a far more competitive league last time out. Now, with a further season on, it would seem little has been added and prior heavy investment squandered. It's hard not to see that even for the biggest optimist surely.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on July 28, 2019, 02:02:28 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 01:29:56 AM
It's not just Mawson but he's still an example of a unsuccessful signing. In your scenario of 500k for Messi who doesn't kick a ball and gets run over, yes, hindsight and results would suggest an unsuccessful recruitment outcome as he wouldn't of done anything at the club. For me, there's not much difference if a player fails to have an impact on pitch due to insufficient quality or injury as the bottom line is the same, it didn't work out for whatever reason.

As for making it sound obvious, I'm surprised the idea that post analysis of a players success is driven by hindsight isn't obvious. It's the only measure you can have. You can say 'in the past it was an decent signing at the time' but in the present and likely of knee injuries persist or force early retirement (heaven forbid) it's been a failure both in us getting relegated and now, short of quality on the same position we found ourselves urgently needing in a far more competitive league last time out. Now, with a further season on, it would seem little has been added and prior heavy investment squandered. It's hard not to see that even for the biggest optimist surely.

What are you arguing here?

Yes, Obviously, judging if a transfer went well or not long term, will be based on the result of how well that player performs once bought, or what they're able to give to the team. But that doesn't mean case closed, bad management. The world isn't that simple and that's not the point being made?

The point being discussed is: If everyone generally agrees when a transfer is made that it's the right thing to do, and on paper it is a good signing....if it doesn't work out that way, is it then to ignore that original context of the signing completely, and ignore the fact that perhaps even you yourself were wrong on it too? Is it then a thoughtful stance to blame the person in charge for the bad outcome, or poor form and suggest that they, the one who made the signing that you also though was good too at the time, are incompetent.

The window isn't over yet and we will should see what comes in before making a full judgment of whats happened post relegation.

It might be the 'way things work' in results-based business...but doesn't mean in every instance it's a fair or good way of thinking that shouldn't be challenged with good reason. The world has worked in many dysfunctional ways in its history. It also continues to change.

Anyway can't go down this pothole again...no one every changes their mind on these messageboards.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 01:04:36 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 12:38:05 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM

Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.

I think the point (although not super clear from previous posts) is that judging only on result without further context is pointless. Therefore, it is not hindsight as such, but the pretending that the actual result was the only reasonable result that is the problem. Thus, the debate.

What's the point in the debate when you have the outcome? We know he *could* of been a good signing, but in a results driven industry, it fails on both accounts. The transfers didn't help us stay up, AND a significant portion of the investment has been shipped out on loan and won't play so however you want to look at it, its not favourable.

I assume we are discussing the Mawson signing here (forgive me if that is not the case). If so, the point (which should actually be obvious) is to debate whether it was a reasonable signing or not. No one (I would assume) believes it has turned out particularly well so far. But to make a silly example (in case the point is still unclear), if we would have signed Messi for 500K and he then got run over by an old Volvo the next day with a fatal outcome, would you still claim that it was a bad signing (not result, which was obviously bad)?
But unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mawson's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.

I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.

However, I suspect that because of the op, both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.

I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his ability level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.

Also, TK, as the person responsible for signing Mawson, would (one hopes) have given the decision far more consideration than the average fan or poster on here. He'd also have had access to far, far more information on which he could make a decision. Therefore I don't consider it a significant mitigant that some on here said at the time, in throwaway comments without much information, that it seemed a good signing.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 02:12:22 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 01:29:56 AM
It's not just Mawson but he's still an example of a unsuccessful signing. In your scenario of 500k for Messi who doesn't kick a ball and gets run over, yes, hindsight and results would suggest an unsuccessful recruitment outcome as he wouldn't of done anything at the club. For me, there's not much difference if a player fails to have an impact on pitch due to insufficient quality or injury as the bottom line is the same, it didn't work out for whatever reason.

As for making it sound obvious, I'm surprised the idea that post analysis of a players success is driven by hindsight isn't obvious. It's the only measure you can have. You can say 'in the past it was an decent signing at the time' but in the present and likely of knee injuries persist or force early retirement (heaven forbid) it's been a failure both in us getting relegated and now, short of quality on the same position we found ourselves urgently needing in a far more competitive league last time out. Now, with a further season on, it would seem little has been added and prior heavy investment squandered. It's hard not to see that even for the biggest optimist surely.

It is not an analysis of a players success, but an analysis of the quality of the signing. Here it would also be reasonable to differentiate between a bad signing and an unsuccessful signing, since they are not necessarily the same (although they can be). That concept should not be too surprising I would think.

To be perfectly clear, I do not think that it is a success that Mawson is currently seemingly injured, nor do I believe that the signing so far has turned out to be a success. I also doubt anyone would suggest Mawson being injured is good, and as such that would be a pointless debate that you are seemingly having by your own.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on July 28, 2019, 02:13:21 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 01:04:36 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 12:38:05 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM

Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.

I think the point (although not super clear from previous posts) is that judging only on result without further context is pointless. Therefore, it is not hindsight as such, but the pretending that the actual result was the only reasonable result that is the problem. Thus, the debate.

What's the point in the debate when you have the outcome? We know he *could* of been a good signing, but in a results driven industry, it fails on both accounts. The transfers didn't help us stay up, AND a significant portion of the investment has been shipped out on loan and won't play so however you want to look at it, its not favourable.

I assume we are discussing the Mawson signing here (forgive me if that is not the case). If so, the point (which should actually be obvious) is to debate whether it was a reasonable signing or not. No one (I would assume) believes it has turned out particularly well so far. But to make a silly example (in case the point is still unclear), if we would have signed Messi for 500K and he then got run over by an old Volvo the next day with a fatal outcome, would you still claim that it was a bad signing (not result, which was obviously bad)?
But unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mason's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.

I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.

However, I suspect both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.

I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.


I actually agree with you on this one, I think it's fair to ask the question, how much of a risk did it seem to Tony at the time. What information did we have from the people employed to assess his fitness? How risky a signing was it in light of his medical results. All fair things to raise in a calm manner without the need for finger-pointing and axe sharpening.

I would understand more if the signing being discussed was one that looked crap on paper, and turned out to be crap....like the Markovic signing...what the hell was all that about - I gather one of Mitro's suggestions but what a waste of time, we really were desperate by that point!

Anyway, enough for one night!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 02:23:17 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AM

But unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mawson's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.

I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.

However, I suspect that because of the op, both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.

I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.

Also, TK, as the person responsible for signing Mawson, would (one hopes) of given the decision far more consideration than the average fan or poster on here. He'd also have had access to far, far more information on which he could make a decision. Therefore I don't consider it a significant mitigant that some on here said at the time, in throwaway comments without much information, that it seemed a good signing.

I acknowledged that it is possible that he carried a higher risk of further injuries, since I do not know. That additional risk could have been huge, or close to zero (or even zero). I disagree though that we can say with any certainty that the decision was wrong at the time, and as such I don't believe it was clearly the wrong decision.

I agree that we are allowed to question the decision with the benefit of hindsight, and I think most agree that the signing has so far turned out unsuccessfully. That doesn't need to translate into thinking it was a bad signing at the time. I actually don't think that my stance is neither contradictory in the slightest, nor complicated.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 02:44:00 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 02:23:17 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AM

But unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mawson's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.

I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.

However, I suspect that because of the op, both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.

I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.

Also, TK, as the person responsible for signing Mawson, would (one hopes) of given the decision far more consideration than the average fan or poster on here. He'd also have had access to far, far more information on which he could make a decision. Therefore I don't consider it a significant mitigant that some on here said at the time, in throwaway comments without much information, that it seemed a good signing.

I acknowledged that it is possible that he carried a higher risk of further injuries, since I do not know. That additional risk could have been huge, or close to zero (or even zero). I disagree though that we can say with any certainty that the decision was wrong at the time, and as such I don't believe it was clearly the wrong decision.

I agree that we are allowed to question the decision with the benefit of hindsight, and I think most agree that the signing has so far turned out unsuccessfully. That doesn't need to translate into thinking it was a bad signing at the time. I actually don't think that my stance is neither contradictory in the slightest, nor complicated.

And replying  to the above, I'm merely arguing that at the time, I thought Mawson was a good signing but it's turned out, thus far that he is not and I was mainly answering the comment about using hindsight as a way of knowing previously that a deal was bad. I'm nlt suggesting that but TK has a rather....inconsistent track record let's say and Mawson getting injured now makes TK position much much worse because almost all the investment of 100m isn't being shown as wise for both last seasons outcome, and the majority of those players aren't featuring in this seasons yet to be determined outcome so unless we get automatic, we're going backwards.

In a results and value for money on players industry, you have to see that we're failing and that's simply broadening the Mawson transfer to the entire two windows last year.

Just to add, in a transfer like Mawson, I couldnt care if it looked good on paper at the time, the result is what matters and it hasn't worked out, like lots of them last year carrying over to this year. The bottom line is what's important and it's not been pretty.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:45:55 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 02:23:17 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AM

But unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mawson's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.

I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.

However, I suspect that because of the op, both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.

I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.

Also, TK, as the person responsible for signing Mawson, would (one hopes) of given the decision far more consideration than the average fan or poster on here. He'd also have had access to far, far more information on which he could make a decision. Therefore I don't consider it a significant mitigant that some on here said at the time, in throwaway comments without much information, that it seemed a good signing.

I acknowledged that it is possible that he carried a higher risk of further injuries, since I do not know. That additional risk could have been huge, or close to zero (or even zero). I disagree though that we can say with any certainty that the decision was wrong at the time, and as such I don't believe it was clearly the wrong decision.

I agree that we are allowed to question the decision with the benefit of hindsight, and I think most agree that the signing has so far turned out unsuccessfully. That doesn't need to translate into thinking it was a bad signing at the time. I actually don't think that my stance is neither contradictory in the slightest, nor complicated.

To clarify a couple of points, when I said "clearly the decision was wrong" I meant, as you've put it, it has "turned out unsuccessful". I fully understand the difference between a decision that turns out to be wrong with the passage of time, versus a decision that was bad at the time it was made. However, my point is I think the decision to sign Mawson was both the former and the latter, and not simply because we can see with hindsight he got repeatedly injured, but because TK may not have correctly weighed the risk of that at the time we purchased Mawson. Had Mawson been a winger, the risk would have perhaps been worth taking, because a player being unavailable in that part of the team would likely have been far less impactful than an injury to our best CB, for the reasons I gave. Did TK, with his limited football knowledge, comsider that sort of thing when he quantified the risk?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 28, 2019, 03:04:35 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:45:55 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 02:23:17 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AM

But unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mawson's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.

I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.

However, I suspect that because of the op, both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.

I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.

Also, TK, as the person responsible for signing Mawson, would (one hopes) of given the decision far more consideration than the average fan or poster on here. He'd also have had access to far, far more information on which he could make a decision. Therefore I don't consider it a significant mitigant that some on here said at the time, in throwaway comments without much information, that it seemed a good signing.

I acknowledged that it is possible that he carried a higher risk of further injuries, since I do not know. That additional risk could have been huge, or close to zero (or even zero). I disagree though that we can say with any certainty that the decision was wrong at the time, and as such I don't believe it was clearly the wrong decision.

I agree that we are allowed to question the decision with the benefit of hindsight, and I think most agree that the signing has so far turned out unsuccessfully. That doesn't need to translate into thinking it was a bad signing at the time. I actually don't think that my stance is neither contradictory in the slightest, nor complicated.

To clarify a couple of points, when I said "clearly the decision was wrong" I meant, as you've put it, it has "turned out unsuccessful". I fully understand the difference between a decision that turns out to be wrong with the passage of time, versus a decision that was bad at the time it was made. However, my point is I think the decision to sign Mawson was both the former and the latter, and not simply because we can see with hindsight he got repeatedly injured, but because TK may not have correctly weighed the risk of that at the time we purchased Mawson. Had Mawson been a winger, the risk would have perhaps been worth taking, because a player being unavailable in that part of the team would likely have been far less impactful than an injury to our best CB, for the reasons I gave. Did TK, with his limited football knowledge, comsider that sort of thing when he quantified the risk?

Analysing why Fulham failed, Big Sam points out £30m is the cost of a quality premier league player. He thinks we should have spent £100m for three players. Mawson was £30m defender at half price due to his injury. Basically, Big Sam thinks we didn't buy enough quality in the lineup.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/i-question-quality-sam-allardyce-16636739
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 28, 2019, 04:12:25 AM
If we are to prepare and organise ourselves properly so we can start off on the right foot in the first match v Barnsley, I hope Fulham have a cunning plan for the coming week.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 28, 2019, 04:58:13 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅

Yes your right, these dam foxes haven't got anything better to do. Only the other night one mentioned to me that he was fed up being chased by the Old Bill with their truncheons in their hand. I hope the Constabulary did not have a peep into your Garden Shed, otherwise you may have ended up down the Station to explain what all those swingers were doing.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 05:04:59 AM
I was more worried they'd find the illicit hooch which is brewing away in there.😎
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 28, 2019, 06:00:52 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 05:04:59 AM
I was more worried they'd find the illicit hooch which is brewing away in there.😎

Who The Fox or the Peelers ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on July 28, 2019, 08:04:47 AM
What a farce this thread has become. Anyone actually know of any transfer news? Is it too much to ask for a rumor about a defender who may be available? I would be happy to read some made up nonsense from a wannabe journo over the pathetic arguments on this thread.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 08:11:45 AM
Ryan Porteous on trial from Hibs,centre back whose been out injured for over a year,and only just back in training..... So we'll most prob sign him as we like to give a home to cripples.😵
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 28, 2019, 08:19:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 08:11:45 AM
Ryan Porteous on trial from Hibs,centre back whose been out injured for over a year,and only just back in training..... So we'll most prob sign him as we like to give a home to cripples.[emoji43]
He made 23 appearances last season for Hibs, not sure he's been out for a year?

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 08:27:02 AM
Gary Cahill, I've heard mentioned again a couple of times this weekend.

Mainly suggesting he's on his way to Galatasary & even Arsenal & Man Utd linked with him but we're still being mentioned in the reports as apparently wants to remain in London & we're 'desperate for defensive reinforcements'.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 08:44:25 AM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 28, 2019, 08:19:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 08:11:45 AM
Ryan Porteous on trial from Hibs,centre back whose been out injured for over a year,and only just back in training..... So we'll most prob sign him as we like to give a home to cripples.[emoji43]
He made 23 appearances last season for Hibs, not sure he's been out for a year?

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January to be precise,so that's 7 months,the year quote was tongue in cheek....Hello😤
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 08:53:01 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅

Yes, your non-football related mood outbursts add so much more to the thread as per usual. Are we trying to sign the fox?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 28, 2019, 09:04:19 AM
Quote from: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 08:27:02 AM
Gary Cahill, I've heard mentioned again a couple of times this weekend.

Mainly suggesting he's on his way to Galatasary & even Arsenal & Man Utd linked with him but we're still being mentioned in the reports as apparently wants to remain in London & we're 'desperate for defensive reinforcements'.
Ok... U should be fired for bringing up Gary Cahill.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 09:10:11 AM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 28, 2019, 08:19:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 08:11:45 AM
Ryan Porteous on trial from Hibs,centre back whose been out injured for over a year,and only just back in training..... So we'll most prob sign him as we like to give a home to cripples.[emoji43]
He made 23 appearances last season for Hibs, not sure he's been out for a year?

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He's been out injured since January
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 08:53:01 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅

Yes, your non-football related mood outbursts add so much more to the thread as per usual. Are we trying to sign the fox?

Bit of fun to take away the droll of constant same argument, that you and a couple of others end up arguing over on different threads,no problem with that if you keep it in check.
One of your cohorts last week added about 9 quotes taking up the whole page,and at that bottom of it just passed a three word sarcastic reply.
I like some of your comments,as I do Statto's but sometimes your going round in circles and ending up arguing over the same thing but on  different thread.😊
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 09:17:41 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 28, 2019, 09:04:19 AM
Quote from: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 08:27:02 AM
Gary Cahill, I've heard mentioned again a couple of times this weekend.

Mainly suggesting he's on his way to Galatasary & even Arsenal & Man Utd linked with him but we're still being mentioned in the reports as apparently wants to remain in London & we're 'desperate for defensive reinforcements'.
Ok... U should be fired for bringing up Gary Cahill.

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Don't shoot the messenger
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 08:53:01 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅

Yes, your non-football related mood outbursts add so much more to the thread as per usual. Are we trying to sign the fox?

Bit of fun to take away the droll of constant same argument, that you and a couple of others end up arguing over on different threads,no problem with that if you keep it in check.
One of your cohorts last week added about 9 quotes taking up the whole page,and at that bottom of it just passed a three word sarcastic reply.
I like some of your comments,as I do Statto's but sometimes your going round in circles and ending up arguing over the same thing but on  different thread.😊

Still hung up on the quote stuff huh....might of been worth you know, adding to discussion with transfer gossip or wants and needs of the team to derail it rather than moaning about people debating. I'm so fed up of you derailing debates with your constant moaning.....over and out. That's tongue in cheek by the way....

Players I want, Austin Mooy, Besic, Ayala, Richie, Tomori and McCarthy. Can't see any of those coming off but if I had to place one on wish list I'd add Mooy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 10:17:54 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 08:53:01 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅

Yes, your non-football related mood outbursts add so much more to the thread as per usual. Are we trying to sign the fox?

Bit of fun to take away the droll of constant same argument, that you and a couple of others end up arguing over on different threads,no problem with that if you keep it in check.
One of your cohorts last week added about 9 quotes taking up the whole page,and at that bottom of it just passed a three word sarcastic reply.
I like some of your comments,as I do Statto's but sometimes your going round in circles and ending up arguing over the same thing but on  different thread.😊

Still hung up on the quote stuff huh....might of been worth you know, adding to discussion with transfer gossip or wants and needs of the team to derail it rather than moaning about people debating. I'm so fed up of you derailing debates with your constant moaning.....over and out. That's tongue in cheek by the way....

Players I want, Austin Mooy, Besic, Ayala, Richie, Tomori and McCarthy. Can't see any of those coming off but if I had to place one on wish list I'd add Mooy.

👅👅👅👅👅😋

Oh Jesus....Just realised I've added 4 quotes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 10:26:42 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 09:16:16 AM

Bit of fun to take away the droll of constant same argument, that you and a couple of others end up arguing over on different threads,no problem with that if you keep it in check.
One of your cohorts last week added about 9 quotes taking up the whole page,and at that bottom of it just passed a three word sarcastic reply.
I like some of your comments,as I do Statto's but sometimes your going round in circles and ending up arguing over the same thing but on  different thread.😊

Fair enough, although I cannot really help if someone else uses 9 quotes in their reply.

No matter, we all want what is best for FCC so let's hope we will get to celebrate a victory next weekend.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 10:32:14 AM
Sotn...👍
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: deadcowboys on July 28, 2019, 11:04:01 AM
As someone who is closer to 5' 2" than 6' 2" can't help thinking that is a bit small in the modern game. I want Brede's height with Roger Brown's brawn. Even though he played for the Poo always enjoyed watching teams panic when Micky Droy went up for corners.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 11:13:51 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 10:17:54 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 08:53:01 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅

Yes, your non-football related mood outbursts add so much more to the thread as per usual. Are we trying to sign the fox?

Bit of fun to take away the droll of constant same argument, that you and a couple of others end up arguing over on different threads,no problem with that if you keep it in check.
One of your cohorts last week added about 9 quotes taking up the whole page,and at that bottom of it just passed a three word sarcastic reply.
I like some of your comments,as I do Statto's but sometimes your going round in circles and ending up arguing over the same thing but on  different thread.😊

Still hung up on the quote stuff huh....might of been worth you know, adding to discussion with transfer gossip or wants and needs of the team to derail it rather than moaning about people debating. I'm so fed up of you derailing debates with your constant moaning.....over and out. That's tongue in cheek by the way....

Players I want, Austin Mooy, Besic, Ayala, Richie, Tomori and McCarthy. Can't see any of those coming off but if I had to place one on wish list I'd add Mooy.

👅👅👅👅👅😋

Oh Jesus....Just realised I've added 4 quotes.

I thought we were ok as long as it was under 4?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.

We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in

Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah

Would everyone look at that as a successful window?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on July 28, 2019, 11:27:38 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in

Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah

Would everyone look at that as a successful window?

I would think it would be a solid window considering we kept mitro and cairney, a decent cb and added midfield reinforcements but we know that at least one of the sess' will leave if not both.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 11:40:53 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in

Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah

Would everyone look at that as a successful window?

It would be a pretty incredible window of that was the case, although no idea who Ryan replaces in the team currently....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on July 28, 2019, 11:49:36 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in

Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah

Would everyone look at that as a successful window?

I don't think we need Ryan Sess
I would much rather have the money - Knockaert and Cavaleiro both better players so he wouldn't start.
Between Kamara, Ayite and Kebano we have more than enough backup
We have built a squad for without Sess so for him to stay and us not get the money and see him leave on a free would be very bad IMO
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 28, 2019, 11:49:36 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in

Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah

Would everyone look at that as a successful window?

I don't think we need Ryan Sess
I would much rather have the money - Knockaert and Cavaleiro both better players so he wouldn't start.
Between Kamara, Ayite and Kebano we have more than enough backup
We have built a squad for without Sess so for him to stay and us not get the money and see him leave on a free would be very bad IMO

:plus one:

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.

We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.

McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and  Villa.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GJB on July 28, 2019, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 28, 2019, 11:49:36 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in

Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah

Would everyone look at that as a successful window?

I don't think we need Ryan Sess
I would much rather have the money - Knockaert and Cavaleiro both better players so he wouldn't start.
Between Kamara, Ayite and Kebano we have more than enough backup
We have built a squad for without Sess so for him to stay and us not get the money and see him leave on a free would be very bad IMO

:plus one:

+2
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.

We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.

McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and  Villa.
we have sess position covered now sell to highest bidder!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 28, 2019, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 27, 2019, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later

What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.

One step forward, three steps back.

Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.




So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??

At the time everyone thought it was a terrific window. Hindsight what a wonderful thing!!

Sorry to have caused such a late night/early morning stir with the comment about hindsight, but don't you guys have beds to go to! Or was it the wine taking over.

My comment, like our transfers of last season, SEEMED A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on July 28, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
West Ham striker Jordan Hugill has joined QPR on a season long loan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on July 28, 2019, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.

We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.

McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and  Villa.
we have sess position covered now sell to highest bidder!

As long as we sell in time to use funds to buy a decent CB and LB. problem is this will probably go through on deadline day.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 28, 2019, 01:04:29 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 28, 2019, 12:58:59 PM
Sorry to have caused such a late night/early morning stir with the comment about hindsight, but don't you guys have beds to go to! Or was it the wine taking over.

My comment, like our transfers of last season, SEEMED A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME!

Should stop using a stat based model for your comments.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GJB on July 28, 2019, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
West Ham striker Jordan Hugill has joined QPR on a season long loan.

I'm not sure if you were suggesting this should have been a player we should have gone for or not, but If we're chasing promotion, his goal-scoring record isn't probably up to scratch.

He only managed 6 goals for Boro last season in 38 appearances and at Preston he scored 23 in 103 appearances - 1 goal every 4/5 matches.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on July 28, 2019, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 28, 2019, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
West Ham striker Jordan Hugill has joined QPR on a season long loan.

I'm not sure if you were suggesting this should have been a player we should have gone for or not, but If we're chasing promotion, his goal-scoring record isn't probably up to scratch.

He only managed 6 goals for Boro last season in 38 appearances and at Preston he scored 23 in 103 appearances - 1 goal every 4/5 matches.

We need a back up for Mitro and Hugill would have been perfect
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 01:27:28 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 28, 2019, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
West Ham striker Jordan Hugill has joined QPR on a season long loan.

I'm not sure if you were suggesting this should have been a player we should have gone for or not, but If we're chasing promotion, his goal-scoring record isn't probably up to scratch.

He only managed 6 goals for Boro last season in 38 appearances and at Preston he scored 23 in 103 appearances - 1 goal every 4/5 matches.

Think he's just pointing out that other clubs are signing players,whoever they are.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Buffalo76 on July 28, 2019, 01:28:47 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.

We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.

McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and  Villa.


Let's offer £7-8m then ....simple!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 28, 2019, 01:34:44 PM
I am hoping the next 11 days will enable the club to bring in the players we obviously need to fill the positions and areas we are weak and short on. Might just take one transfer deal to create a domino effect. Hopefully it will be players of quality, pedigree and experience to create an opportunity to gain promotion at Scott Parker's first attempt, as to a certain extent a manager is only as good as the players he has at his disposal.
We have to make ourselves hard to beat, and create consistency in collecting points.
Make Craven Cottage a fortress again, because I am sure we can win at any ground in this division, in just the same way we can lose at any ground in this division, but a solid no nonsense physical defence would give us a much better chance. Keep a clean sheet and we only need to score one goal to win a game. Keep a clean pillow case as well and we will be buzzing.
But only if we sign the players we need.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
The Fox escaped,he was too fast for plod.
Apparently it was Jamie Vardy.😊
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on July 28, 2019, 02:14:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
The Fox escaped,he was too fast for plod.
Apparently it was Jamie Vardy.😊

I don't know what you are talking about on a permanent basis.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 28, 2019, 02:16:06 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
The Fox escaped,he was too fast for plod.
Apparently it was Jamie Vardy.😊

The newspapers say he was giving his wife  a piggy back at the time, and still got away. But when I observe some of the more rotund members of the Constabulary filling their boat races with tubby fast food at many petrol stations and similar outlets. I would place a Monkey on Samantha Fox carrying a step ladder over her shoulder out sprinting the old Bill.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 28, 2019, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.

We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.

McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and  Villa.

McKenna is left footed. Doesn't solve our immediate problem.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:42:52 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 28, 2019, 02:14:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
The Fox escaped,he was too fast for plod.
Apparently it was Jamie Vardy.😊

I don't know what you are talking about on a permanent basis.

Funny my wife says the same.😜
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 28, 2019, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
Last central defender highly rated in Scotland we signed turned out well, Shaun Hutchinson. Not saying will be the same but he doesn't seem any better from the clips I looked up today
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:57:39 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 28, 2019, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.

We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.

McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and  Villa.

McKenna is left footed. Doesn't solve our immediate problem.

On Sky today they've turned down 3mill bids from Forest and QPR.
Aberdeen have laughed at it he contracted til 2024.
The 442 mag said a while back he is as good now as McLeish was for Aberdeen, so that's high praise,but as has been pointed out left footed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 28, 2019, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
Last central defender highly rated in Scotland we signed turned out well, Shaun Hutchinson. Not saying will be the same but he doesn't seem any better from the clips I looked up today

Think the trial he is one for future, not to go into
our present side.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 28, 2019, 05:19:40 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 28, 2019, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 28, 2019, 11:49:36 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in

Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah

Would everyone look at that as a successful window?

I don't think we need Ryan Sess
I would much rather have the money - Knockaert and Cavaleiro both better players so he wouldn't start.
Between Kamara, Ayite and Kebano we have more than enough backup
We have built a squad for without Sess so for him to stay and us not get the money and see him leave on a free would be very bad IMO

:plus one:

+2
I too am now anxious to see the back of Sess. without further delay so that money becomes available for players in critical positions.
Right now the most pressing need is for cover in centre mid, then a centre half followed by a right back.
I also think it correct to say that Sess is surplus to immediate requirements.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 28, 2019, 06:15:51 PM
Lol...I'm actually starting to think fans are leaning towards booing Sess if he stays.


That can't be right, assuredly?   I mean that can't be what I'm reading.

Quote from: filham on July 28, 2019, 05:19:40 PM

Right now the most pressing need is for cover in centre mid, then a centre half followed by a right back.
I also think it correct to say that Sess is surplus to immediate requirements.

Couldn't all of those be brought in along with Sess staying...on his current wage?


Fulham have scored 4 goals in 6 preseason games.   Two of which were by Tom Cairney in one game.    I'm still not quick to get rid of Sess because I remember the lack ability to be clinical in the final 3rd from two years ago (Ayite and Kebano)

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: aaronmcguigan on July 28, 2019, 06:23:39 PM
I doubt anyone would boo Sess, but I reckon with ample replacements who are more suited to their division than Sess' rivals for his spot last year, Sess may play less games, given also that he has a whole pre season to catch up on .
I don't mind if he stays or goes, it's just a boring saga that needs an end badly.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
We conceded more goals in the EPL than any club in history last season.
We have needed a CB pairing for five seasons now and still haven't sorted it.

This club is the laughing stock of th league imo.
I actually feel sorry for Parker. He  will do well to end up mid table.

Ho hum

Coyw!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 28, 2019, 06:31:59 PM
Yes, that 4goals in 6 pre season games is worrying but then Sess. only scored twice in over 30 games last season.
Just hope Mitro hasn't lost his shooting boots.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on July 28, 2019, 06:34:25 PM
Not being linked to anyone
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 28, 2019, 06:36:40 PM
A journalist in Norway told me we want to sign Ajer (Celtic).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 28, 2019, 06:48:31 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 28, 2019, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.

We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.

McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and  Villa.

McKenna is left footed. Doesn't solve our immediate problem.
If Mawson's injury yesterday proves to be serious with him being unavailable long term and I really hope this isn't the case then McKenna bring left footed like Mawson could be a possible suitable replacement option.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 28, 2019, 06:36:40 PM
A journalist in Norway told me we want to sign Ajer (Celtic).

As much as I despise Celtic and their unwashed supporters, I must say that Kristoffer Ajer is a very good centre back, really, really tall, very comfortable on the ball and always reminds me of Brede Hangalaand when ever I've seen him,
Must say though it's very unlikely we could afford to sign him, can't see Celtic letting him go and even if they did it would surely be to a Premier League club.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on July 28, 2019, 06:58:36 PM
I might be alone in thinking this but - never in the field of human discussion; has so much been said, by so many, about so little

My thanks to - W S Churchill from whom I borrowed most of the words
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on July 28, 2019, 06:59:35 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 28, 2019, 06:36:40 PM
A journalist in Norway told me we want to sign Ajer (Celtic).

As much as I despise Celtic and their unwashed supporters,
Would hate to see what you think of Rangers
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
It's all doom n gloom on here ain't it!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 28, 2019, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
It's all doom n gloom on here ain't it!
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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on July 28, 2019, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
We conceded more goals in the EPL than any club in history last season.
We have needed a CB pairing for five seasons now and still haven't sorted it.

This club is the laughing stock of th league imo.
I actually feel sorry for Parker. He  will do well to end up mid table.

Ho hum

Coyw!

I didn't realise we'd renamed ourselves Derby County considering they still hold the record by a fair margin. Still not sure how we're the laughing stock of the league either, most teams will be worried about facing us purely for our offensive capabilities, add in a new CB and holding midfielder before the window closes and I think we're almost as good as we possibly can be
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on July 28, 2019, 08:45:20 PM
I much prefer Fulham fans being all depressed and pessimistic about the season. Then they will feel happier when we are in the top ten in the league. It is those fans who claim promotion and play offs are a certainty that could be heading for disappointment. But its Fulham and football and the Championship. Let's enjoy it as well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 28, 2019, 10:37:21 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
It's all doom n gloom on here ain't it!

In fairness, in the space of 48 hrs we've lost the 1st and potentially (to injury) the 4th most expensive players we've signed in our history (one of whom was our only decent defender) and our youngest ever first team player, without receiving a decent fee for any of them. It was hardly the best way for the penultimate weekend of the transfer window to pan out.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 28, 2019, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 10:37:21 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
It's all doom n gloom on here ain't it!

In fairness, in the space of 48 hrs we've lost the 1st and potentially (to injury) the 4th most expensive players we've signed in our history (one of whom was our only decent defender) and our youngest ever first team player, without receiving a decent fee for any of them. It was hardly the best way for the penultimate weekend of the transfer window to pan out.

It's a fair point.

Last week I put a bet on that we'd win the league. I'm seriously considering cashing it out to get my money back.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on July 29, 2019, 12:43:02 AM
You've done your dough. Cash out now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 09:25:43 AM
We had John McGinn in the building last summer but chose not to conclude the deal.


Some player he is is.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 29, 2019, 09:41:55 AM
Today's Mirror now linking us with Arter and saying Parker keen to sign him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 29, 2019, 10:02:00 AM
Quote from: Roberty on July 28, 2019, 06:58:36 PM
I might be alone in thinking this but - never in the field of human discussion; has so much been said, by so many, about so little

My thanks to - W S Churchill from whom I borrowed most of the words
Inspirational words, if only they had been preceded by a summer of action over the Cottage.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 29, 2019, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 28, 2019, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 10:37:21 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
It's all doom n gloom on here ain't it!

In fairness, in the space of 48 hrs we've lost the 1st and potentially (to injury) the 4th most expensive players we've signed in our history (one of whom was our only decent defender) and our youngest ever first team player, without receiving a decent fee for any of them. It was hardly the best way for the penultimate weekend of the transfer window to pan out.

It's a fair point.

Last week I put a bet on that we'd win the league. I'm seriously considering cashing it out to get my money back.
Realistically, if we finish top 10 that would be a good season. It appears that expectations are made by the heart....rather than the head. We would all like automatic promotion but it isnt going to be a walk in the park.
We've signed Cav and knockheart, proven experience in the leagues and SHOULD do well.... not the usual gamble of bring others in without experience. BUT so have other teams brought in quality players.
Our defence is still poor, more so with Mawson out.

A marque signing to show intent would be to convince Cahill to join us.... even if that means paying slightly over the odds with a caveat that he can go in Jan if we are not top 6?




Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Atomhead on July 29, 2019, 10:52:42 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
This club is the laughing stock of the league imo.

Are you for real?! The key part of this utterly ridiculous sentence is "IMO". Other clubs in this league would cut their arms off for just one of Mitro, Caviliero, Cairney, Knockhaert, Sessignon, Bryan let alone all of them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 29, 2019, 10:55:19 AM
Quote from: Atomhead on July 29, 2019, 10:52:42 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
This club is the laughing stock of the league imo.

Are you for real?! The key part of this utterly ridiculous sentence is "IMO". Other clubs in this league would cut their arms off for just one of Mitro, Caviliero, Cairney, Knockhaert, Sessignon, Bryan let alone all of them.

Was with you till you said Bryan. As a fan of his, he doesn't deserve to be in that list!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on July 29, 2019, 11:51:51 AM
Parker predicts more signings


https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/parker-predicts-more-fulham-signings#.XT7KVFn0DWg.twitter
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 29, 2019, 12:10:02 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 29, 2019, 11:51:51 AM
Parker predicts more signings


https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/parker-predicts-more-fulham-signings#.XT7KVFn0DWg.twitter

"[Cavaleiro and Knockaert] are very, very good players. I still think they're a little bit short of where we need them to be, in terms of minutes and training days. They've come in late to the football club."

Hate to break it to you Scott but mid-July ain't called "late" around here. This time last year 8 more players were still to come in!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 29, 2019, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on July 29, 2019, 11:51:51 AM
Parker predicts more signings


https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/parker-predicts-more-fulham-signings#.XT7KVFn0DWg.twitter

What depresses me with an interview like this , is the fact that it goes against everything Parker told us when he was recruited,
When he joined us he told us that his early appointment and the club's early relegation would give us the extra time needed to prepare for the new season, and yet here we are , 5 days before the new season starts with no defence to speak of and no cover for a wafer thin midfield,
So who do we blame ? Is it Parker or is it Tony Khan ? For me Parker has to take a lot of the blame, why hasn't more been done since March ? Why are we In this position ? Is Parker managing the club or is he just another glove puppet like Kit Symons with Tony Khans hand stuck up his a**e ?
I did a post on this forum last July warning that we needed a right back better than Fredericks, a left back better than Targett and a centre back better than Odoi, one year on and were still waiting,
Chelsea have got proven Championship centre backs like Hector and Tomori available, so why do we stand idly by and do nothing,
I reckon we are in for another slow start and our season starting round about the time our skies are filled with fireworks and the glow of bonfires.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on July 29, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
Quote from: Atomhead on July 29, 2019, 10:52:42 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
This club is the laughing stock of the league imo.

Are you for real?! The key part of this utterly ridiculous sentence is "IMO". Other clubs in this league would cut their arms off for just one of Mitro, Caviliero, Cairney, Knockhaert, Sessignon, Bryan let alone all of them.

This.

Hey, Leeds who are the faves (by the bookies) to go up have 2 senior centre-backs (Cooper and Brighton loanee Ben White) in the whole team.

We need defensive reinforcements surely sooner rather than later so I believe we will sign two of them. Hector and Oxford would be fine.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on July 29, 2019, 01:33:32 PM
Johansen's agent and the club are in talks over a new deal and Stefan says he really enjoys his time here now, compared to when he left on loan.

https://www.an.no/fotball/jobb/mediebransjen/nar-ny-avtale-jeg-skal-satses-pa/s/5-4-1050461
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on July 29, 2019, 01:40:04 PM
Quote from: twang on July 29, 2019, 01:33:32 PM
Johansen's agent and the club are in talks over a new deal and Stefan says he really enjoys his time here now, compared to when he left on loan.

https://www.an.no/fotball/jobb/mediebransjen/nar-ny-avtale-jeg-skal-satses-pa/s/5-4-1050461

Great to hear. Think he'll have a fantastic season for us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
I've heard that Scottie and TK are having words over Sess, Scottie wants him to stay and Sess wants to as well,but Khan jnr wants him sold.
It came from my friend where I live,his lad works for the Express,and he gets hear a few whispers what's going on.
Hard to make out,I'd have thought our owners would want Ryan to stay.....Just what I heard.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 29, 2019, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
I've heard that Scottie and TK are having words over Sess, Scottie wants him to stay and Sess wants to as well,but Khan jnr wants him sold.
It came from my friend where I live,his lad works for the Express,and he gets hear a few whispers what's going on.
Hard to make out,I'd have thought our owners would want Ryan to stay.....Just what I heard.

I could see some sense to this. From the business standpoint, unless Ryan wants to protect us financially, and sign a new contract, the business side would want him out and not end up with no money. From a footballing perspective, having Ryan in your squad will always enrich us that this level BUT where does he start? Tough one as I rate Knockaert and Cavaleiro in front of him currently.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Moltobueno on July 29, 2019, 03:05:31 PM
Is Drinkwater linked with anyone?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on July 29, 2019, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: Moltobueno on July 29, 2019, 03:05:31 PM
Is Drinkwater linked with anyone?
Only his wallet
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 29, 2019, 03:12:18 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 29, 2019, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: Moltobueno on July 29, 2019, 03:05:31 PM
Is Drinkwater linked with anyone?
Only his wallet

I'd take him on if he was willing to not only jump down but take a pay cut to save his career.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on July 29, 2019, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 29, 2019, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
I've heard that Scottie and TK are having words over Sess, Scottie wants him to stay and Sess wants to as well,but Khan jnr wants him sold.
It came from my friend where I live,his lad works for the Express,and he gets hear a few whispers what's going on.
Hard to make out,I'd have thought our owners would want Ryan to stay.....Just what I heard.

I could see some sense to this. From the business standpoint, unless Ryan wants to protect us financially, and sign a new contract, the business side would want him out and not end up with no money. From a footballing perspective, having Ryan in your squad will always enrich us that this level BUT where does he start? Tough one as I rate Knockaert and Cavaleiro in front of him currently.

Agreed, assuming this isn't just hearsay for a moment, of course from a managers perspective it'd be nice to keep Sess if possible. But from a finance and squad assembly perspective, it's going to all relate to FFP and what we can/need to do. I'd bet if Scott was given the choice of, look you've got 2 good wingers already, do you want good defensive and midfield reinforcements or do you want to keep Sess... he'd go for the improvements elsewhere. I'm sure the board would rather keep Sess too IF we were in a position to do that AND sign who we need elsewhere in the team. But that's seemingly not the scenario we're faced with, so unsurprising if he's not committing they'll look to make money from the asset.

If the fee is north of 20million. That's money that could do with being spent elsewhere at this point.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jim© on July 29, 2019, 03:18:59 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
We conceded more goals in the EPL than any club in history last season.
We have needed a CB pairing for five seasons now and still haven't sorted it.

This club is the laughing stock of th league imo.
I actually feel sorry for Parker. He  will do well to end up mid table.

What a load of overly dramatic and factually incorrect rubbish.
I think most aspire to have a squad like ours, despite our self imposed misery after last season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 03:19:53 PM
But time is running out to spend the so called money.
Spuds if they still want him will wait to last day.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mullers OG on July 29, 2019, 03:21:17 PM
Priority for the season should be to sort out the RB and CB positions and to get a back up striker for Mitro.  If to do that cash needs to be raised then I can understand the ownership's view about Sess.

RB has been a problem position ever since Fredericks left.  Christie is a hard working full back but in the opinion of many supporters not quite up to the job.   One of the best full backs in the world is without a club at the moment; what about Alves?  What a coup that would be!   CB looks a bit thin although personally I have great respect for Odoi.  If all the team last year had shown his level of passion and commitment they would probably still be in the premiership.

Mitro might survive all season without being injured or suspended; on the other hand he might not and at the moment there is no adequate back up.  Kamara is being given a second chance by the club.  That's fine; let's see how it goes.  He is better in my view as an impact sub out wide.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on July 29, 2019, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 29, 2019, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
I've heard that Scottie and TK are having words over Sess, Scottie wants him to stay and Sess wants to as well,but Khan jnr wants him sold.
It came from my friend where I live,his lad works for the Express,and he gets hear a few whispers what's going on.
Hard to make out,I'd have thought our owners would want Ryan to stay.....Just what I heard.

I could see some sense to this. From the business standpoint, unless Ryan wants to protect us financially, and sign a new contract, the business side would want him out and not end up with no money. From a footballing perspective, having Ryan in your squad will always enrich us that this level BUT where does he start? Tough one as I rate Knockaert and Cavaleiro in front of him currently.
I can't quit see where there is a place for Sess. in Parker's team but I would like him to stay but then only if he wants to and is prepared to sign a contract. No way is he worth £25m for a season which is what it amounts to if we allow him to walk away on a free next summer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 29, 2019, 03:31:21 PM
Quote from: filham on July 29, 2019, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 29, 2019, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
I've heard that Scottie and TK are having words over Sess, Scottie wants him to stay and Sess wants to as well,but Khan jnr wants him sold.
It came from my friend where I live,his lad works for the Express,and he gets hear a few whispers what's going on.
Hard to make out,I'd have thought our owners would want Ryan to stay.....Just what I heard.

I could see some sense to this. From the business standpoint, unless Ryan wants to protect us financially, and sign a new contract, the business side would want him out and not end up with no money. From a footballing perspective, having Ryan in your squad will always enrich us that this level BUT where does he start? Tough one as I rate Knockaert and Cavaleiro in front of him currently.
I can't quit see where there is a place for Sess. in Parker's team but I would like him to stay but then only if he wants to and is prepared to sign a contract. No way is he worth £25m for a season which is what it amounts to if we allow him to walk away on a free next summer.

I think Ryan is a very different player to both Cavaleiro and Knockaert and all 3 have different strengths. That's quite a luxury to have with Ayite, Kebano, Kamara and Mitrovic around too so theres 100% a spot in the squad for him, but like you, I'm sceptical of the startign 11/no.1 on the team sheet in front of players already mentioned.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?

Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on July 29, 2019, 04:35:03 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?

Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time

Wow, that is some strong words... I tend to disagree on every level
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 29, 2019, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?

Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time

You're so wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 29, 2019, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on July 29, 2019, 03:21:17 PM
Priority for the season should be to sort out the RB and CB positions and to get a back up striker for Mitro.  If to do that cash needs to be raised then I can understand the ownership's view about Sess.

RB has been a problem position ever since Fredericks left.  Christie is a hard working full back but in the opinion of many supporters not quite up to the job.   One of the best full backs in the world is without a club at the moment; what about Alves?  What a coup that would be!   CB looks a bit thin although personally I have great respect for Odoi.  If all the team last year had shown his level of passion and commitment they would probably still be in the premiership.

Mitro might survive all season without being injured or suspended; on the other hand he might not and at the moment there is no adequate back up.  Kamara is being given a second chance by the club.  That's fine; let's see how it goes.  He is better in my view as an impact sub out wide.

We've got 4 first team CMs, including Cisse. That is a priority position.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on July 29, 2019, 04:40:40 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 29, 2019, 04:35:03 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?

Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time

Wow, that is some strong words... I tend to disagree on every level

Likewise, except regarding the positioning sense.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MrFFC on July 29, 2019, 04:41:29 PM
CB CM simply have to be signed by end of window
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on July 29, 2019, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?

Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time

WUM alert
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 05:47:12 PM
Quote from: Twig on July 29, 2019, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?

Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time

WUM alert

No I am not.

I think Sess is overrated. He was awful last season. Lightweight and brushed off the ball.

If Sess was playing for an opposing team our stats based signings system would not have him on our transfer shortlist.

In the Chanmpionship most of his goals were tap ins which I attribute to his positioning sense and timing.

I think 20 million is a great price for him plus future add ons
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 29, 2019, 05:49:13 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 05:47:12 PM
Quote from: Twig on July 29, 2019, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?

Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time

WUM alert

No I am not.

I think Sess is overrated. He was awful last season. Lightweight and brushed off the ball.

If Sess was playing for an opposing team our stats based signings system would not have him on our transfer shortlist.

In the Chanmpionship most of his goals were tap ins which I attribute to his positioning sense and timing.

I think 20 million is a great price for him plus future add ons
Can't think of many who played well last season. Sess was no worse than anyone else, just not as good as the year before. You simplify things to much and that isn't always the case.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: elgreenio on July 29, 2019, 05:55:08 PM
lets agree to disagree shall we chaps, no need for WUM comments
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on July 29, 2019, 05:59:08 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 03:19:53 PM
But time is running out to spend the so called money.
Spuds if they still want him will wait to last day.

Will they - want him

On here TK has been lambasted for buying an injured player - Alfie Mawson

As far as I'm aware RS is an injured player - so I'm sure the advice from many on here - if we were buying him - would be NO - maybe Levy is thinking the same
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: colinwhite on July 29, 2019, 06:08:49 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?

Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Got to be an all time low of ridiculous comments about Sessingnon
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: elgreenio on July 29, 2019, 06:10:15 PM
i'm still of the opinion we should gamble and let him leave for free next year if he wants, comes down to 2 things :

1). will he upset the apple cart if he has to stay? I cant see it
2). will we really care about £25m today if he helps us get promoted to the money league?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 06:17:09 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 29, 2019, 06:08:49 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?

Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Got to be an all time low of ridiculous comments about Sessingnon

A poor Premier League season and a poor u21 campaign.

He has a decent Championship season and a half behind him and he has potential.

How many times have we seen players fail to fulfil their potential? Frei, Briggs, etc

We need the 20 million now and he is in the last year of his contract and will not sign a new one.

I'd like to hear a rebuttal from you rather than a dismissal.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 06:33:24 PM
Sign Sess up to a new contract for 3 years and a release cause of £35M+ only to be sold in the summer breaks, he was excellent the season we were promoted. How many goals did he score 15/16 cant remember and his pass at Wembley set the winning goal up. Money wise we can afford him because we aint going to buy him but give him a bigger contract and we can spread the cost over 3 seasons I think.

The injury could be a blessing in disguise.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on July 29, 2019, 06:36:27 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 06:33:24 PM
Sign Sess up to a new contract for 3 years and a release cause of £35M+ only to be sold in the summer breaks, he was excellent the season we were promoted. How many goals did he score 15/16 cant remember and his pass at Wembley set the winning goal up. Money wise we can afford him because we aint going to buy him but give him a bigger contract and we can spread the cost over 3 seasons I think.

The injury could be a blessing in disguise.


slight problem, he doesnt want to sign a contract extension
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 29, 2019, 06:36:43 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 06:33:24 PM
Sign Sess up to a new contract for 3 years and a release cause of £35M+ only to be sold in the summer breaks, he was excellent the season we were promoted. How many goals did he score 15/16 cant remember and his pass at Wembley set the winning goal up. Money wise we can afford him because we aint going to buy him but give him a bigger contract and we can spread the cost over 3 seasons I think.

The injury could be a blessing in disguise.



Great idea. We should probably offer him a new contract...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: colinwhite on July 29, 2019, 06:50:10 PM
Sess is "a technically poor player ", need I go on ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 29, 2019, 06:36:27 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 06:33:24 PM
Sign Sess up to a new contract for 3 years and a release cause of £35M+ only to be sold in the summer breaks, he was excellent the season we were promoted. How many goals did he score 15/16 cant remember and his pass at Wembley set the winning goal up. Money wise we can afford him because we aint going to buy him but give him a bigger contract and we can spread the cost over 3 seasons I think.

The injury could be a blessing in disguise.


slight problem, he doesnt want to sign a contract extension


Then he has to be sold, but if he does want to stay then he has to sign.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 29, 2019, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 29, 2019, 06:36:27 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 06:33:24 PM
Sign Sess up to a new contract for 3 years and a release cause of £35M+ only to be sold in the summer breaks, he was excellent the season we were promoted. How many goals did he score 15/16 cant remember and his pass at Wembley set the winning goal up. Money wise we can afford him because we aint going to buy him but give him a bigger contract and we can spread the cost over 3 seasons I think.

The injury could be a blessing in disguise.


slight problem, he doesnt want to sign a contract extension


Then he has to be sold, but if he does want to stay then he has to sign.
Or...he doesn't.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Texas White on July 30, 2019, 01:29:31 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 29, 2019, 06:08:49 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?

Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Got to be an all time low of ridiculous comments about Sessingnon

Certainly up there..
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bracken White on July 30, 2019, 08:41:33 AM
Have to say that I'm surprised at some of the Ryan Sessegnon comments, which I totally disagree with. The lad, still a teenager, is still an outstanding talent - his control? Excellent - football brain that is intuitive + an ability to be in the right place at the right time. A new contract? What a coup that would be ... no brainer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on July 30, 2019, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 30, 2019, 08:41:33 AM
Have to say that I'm surprised at some of the Ryan Sessegnon comments, which I totally disagree with. The lad, still a teenager, is still an outstanding talent - his control? Excellent - football brain that is intuitive + an ability to be in the right place at the right time. A new contract? What a coup that would be ... no brainer.

Agree totally. Ryan was brilliant in the promotion year. The trouble is that the step up to the Premiership was a massive cultural shock to Sess. I think the pace and physicality of the premiership he faced last season took completely by surprise and he found it very difficult to adjust.

Would like him to sign an extension but think the club know he is going as can be seen by the wide players we have bought. Probably also need the cash to reinvest in defence
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on July 30, 2019, 09:40:03 AM
So still no transfer gossip...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 09:45:16 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 30, 2019, 09:40:03 AM
So still no transfer gossip...

James Breakwater has gone from Nantwich rovers to Carshalton ex Prisoners for undisclosed sum,and a promise to model their new strip.

Apart from that no rumours about.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 30, 2019, 09:50:12 AM
Starting to think Artur will be next player in with some loans from Spurs/Chelsea.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 30, 2019, 10:00:09 AM
I guess Tony Kahn and his team are looking for a center back? We were linked with Chema (a spanish CB), he got an offer from Fulham?

I would be very surprised if Scott Parker is happy with the defence we got now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Moltobueno on July 30, 2019, 10:18:43 AM
Bruno martins indi wants to leave stoke. Currently besiktas favourites with only 2M
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 30, 2019, 11:10:02 AM
Looking at the Media Transfer news there are plenty of CB´s being signed or offers made by other clubs.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 11:51:12 AM
Bournemouth midfielder Dan Gosling has been ruled out for 3 months after suffering injury, wonder what this means for Harry Artur ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 12:48:42 PM
Sess deal off unfortunately.

If the man had any decency he would sign a 1 year extension
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Classic94 on July 30, 2019, 12:49:54 PM
There really isn't anything happening is there... Given how threadbare our squad is, I can only hope we have something in the pipeline.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on July 30, 2019, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 12:48:42 PM
Sess deal off unfortunately.

If the man had any decency he would sign a 1 year extension

Could mean someone else in for Sess at a sensible price.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on July 30, 2019, 01:58:35 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 12:48:42 PM
Sess deal off unfortunately.

If the man had any decency he would sign a 1 year extension

Happy to have the transfer gossip on here without the piety thanks.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 02:01:20 PM
Three trialists in the u23 game against Bournemouth, two of them CB's and one a LB. Anyone know anything else?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.

£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: OldBrownShoe on July 30, 2019, 02:16:37 PM
Derek Lampe, Joe Stapleton, Bobby Drake all being scouted by TK for central defence! Somebody tell him!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 02:21:56 PM
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.

£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.

Sounds like a typical Brentford signing. Will sell him for £20 million next season no doubt.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 02:23:15 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 02:01:20 PM
Three trialists in the u23 game against Bournemouth, two of them CB's and one a LB. Anyone know anything else?

Jeff Hopkins, Terry Angus and Martin Pike.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.

£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.

I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.

£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.

I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.

Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bencher on July 30, 2019, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.

£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.

I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.

Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.

£100m to dust?

We still have Mitro.
Seri and Anguissa both loaned out with options to buy. If activated, there will be fees of substance received. Probably less than we paid, but more than dust.
Brentford have done well for their sustainability, but have they ever been in the PL?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bencher on July 30, 2019, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...

The next Marcelo Djalo? Hope not...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 30, 2019, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.

£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.

I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.

Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.

I made my opinion by looking at his achievements on his Wiki page. Nothing he has done would want us to say Wow we must get him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jim© on July 30, 2019, 03:31:08 PM
He's played at a top level in Spain (though only 150 apps and he's 27). But then so had Amorebietta...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 30, 2019, 03:40:38 PM

FULHAM WANT £9M FOR ELLIOTT

Fulham will argue that Liverpool should pay a record-breaking £9m in compensation for star teenager Harvey Elliott.

The 16-year old moved to Anfield over the weekend after turning down a scholarship and running down his contract at Craven Cottage.

Fulham are due a fee for developing the player, who became the Premier League's youngest ever debutant aged 16 years and 30 days in his former side's defeat to Wolves.

That figure will be decided by the Professional Football Compensation Committee. 

Elliott became Fulham's youngest ever player at the age of 15 years and 74 days in last season's EFL Cup and it's understood the left-footed attacking midfielder was a fundamental part of manager Scott Parker's plans for the forthcoming campaign.

Liverpool hold the record for the highest fee ever paid in compensation, paying Burnley £8m for Danny Ings.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 30, 2019, 03:58:06 PM
9m is going in high, would expect it to end up somewhere in the 3-6m range depending on how generous the committee are feeling on the day. Elliott playing for their first team at the weekend will have helped us out.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on July 30, 2019, 04:04:23 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 02:01:20 PM
Three trialists in the u23 game against Bournemouth, two of them CB's and one a LB. Anyone know anything else?

Reg Matthewson, Paul Went and John Dempsey

I challenge you to pick three better from the old days
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on July 30, 2019, 04:07:34 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.

£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.

I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.

Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.

I bet if we were buying him, you'd say he was a total waste of money as an unknown
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 30, 2019, 04:12:10 PM
Quote from: Jim© on July 30, 2019, 03:31:08 PM
He's played at a top level in Spain (though only 150 apps and he's 27). But then so had Amorebietta...


The guy on Twitter got 300 followers, it's made up.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2019, 04:35:28 PM
Would anyone be happy with Ashley Williams on a free?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 30, 2019, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2019, 04:35:28 PM
Would anyone be happy with Ashley Williams on a free?

I would, solid, experienced a leader.

Sadly he's not the sort of player we sign nowasays.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on July 30, 2019, 04:41:19 PM
This thread is absolute death. Pages and pages of nonsense and no rumours.

Can we open a thread for literally just rumours and no discussions?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on July 30, 2019, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 30, 2019, 04:41:19 PM
This thread is absolute death. Pages and pages of nonsense and no rumours.

Can we open a thread for literally just rumours and no discussions?

There is one. Its just rarely updated because there are no rumours. I agree that most of this thread is pretty much nonsense though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2019, 05:03:43 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 30, 2019, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2019, 04:35:28 PM
Would anyone be happy with Ashley Williams on a free?

I would, solid, experienced a leader.

Sadly he's not the sort of player we sign nowasays.

I was just looking at this list of free transfers:

https://www.football365.com/

Imagine Yohann Cabaye on a year contract to support the midfield ... salary I guess is the problem as usual
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mrmicawbers on July 30, 2019, 05:07:54 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 30, 2019, 04:41:19 PM
This thread is absolute death. Pages and pages of nonsense and no rumours.

Can we open a thread for literally just rumours and no discussions?
Some posters one in particular seems to post just to get a response.I think they call it click bait.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: deadcowboys on July 30, 2019, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 30, 2019, 04:04:23 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 02:01:20 PM
Three trialists in the u23 game against Bournemouth, two of them CB's and one a LB. Anyone know anything else?

Reg Matthewson, Paul Went and John Dempsey

I challenge you to pick three better from the old days

Bobby Keetch, Bobby Robson & Bobby Moore
We'd have our own Police Force too!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 30, 2019, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 30, 2019, 04:41:19 PM
This thread is absolute death. Pages and pages of nonsense and no rumours.

Can we open a thread for literally just rumours and no discussions?
There is a thread which is locked, updated as and when we are officially linked with someone........
this thread is always wish lists, b*ll*x, personal acquisitions and names plucked out of the air..................

BUT, always drawn back into it no matter how hard you try to scroll past!  🤣😘
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 30, 2019, 05:42:27 PM
Quote from: MickeyAdamsFamily on July 22, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
This comes from the Spanish site eldesmarque.com:
"La situación de Chema dentro del equipo es más complicada. El técnico de Silla no cuenta demasiado con el central, por lo que lo más seguro es que termine saliendo de Orriols a lo largo de este verano. En principio, el caudetano ha recibido una oferta del Fulham, por lo que es probable que termine saliendo al club inglés."
Essentially, they're saying it's probable that Chema, who plays in the center of Defense for Levante, is probable to finally leave that team and accept the offer from Fulham to play in England.
He's a Spanish 6' 2-1/2" tall Centre Back.
Anyone seen him play for Levante enough to have an opinion?

This was posted last week about Chema so the claim that he might be incoming is not unprecedented.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PM
This is a disaster of a window.

Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 30, 2019, 06:34:12 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PM
This is a disaster of a window.

Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again

Why don´t you contact TK for an audience. I am sure he will let you know exactly what efforts he is making to assemble a squad for this season. You could also e-mail Jim Woodcock to have a conference call with Mr Khan Senior.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 30, 2019, 06:39:40 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.

£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.

I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.

Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.
Have you considered a season ticket at Brentford?
It appears that you really admire everything they do and yet we can do nothing right!
Seems a no-brainer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 30, 2019, 06:44:12 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 30, 2019, 06:39:40 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.

£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.

I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.

Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.
Have you considered a season ticket at Brentford?
It appears that you really admire everything they do and yet we can do nothing right!
Seems a no-brainer.

yes and meanwhile Brentford havent been promoted to the Premier League, are you interested in how much money the club make or  having a bit of success now and again.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 30, 2019, 06:54:58 PM
Quote from: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...

I wouldn't be surprised if this one turns out to be true. Smells like a typical TK signing:

-Never played outside Spain
-Spent most of his career in the second tier or lower playing for B-teams.
-Top flight experience limited to 45 matches over the last two seasons for a lower half team.

A stats signing if there ever was one. He could turn out great of course...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on July 30, 2019, 06:56:38 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PM
This is a disaster of a window.

Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again

Why don't you run along and support QPHA because you are obviously not a Fulham fan
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 30, 2019, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.

25 million though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SP on July 30, 2019, 07:01:55 PM
Dunk to Leicester for £45m?  A player rated as mid-table Championship standard by some on FoF.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 30, 2019, 07:21:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
Rumoured fee 20-25 million, maybe replacing Dunk who could be Leicester bound i guess
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 30, 2019, 07:23:12 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PM
This is a disaster of a window.

Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again
Keeping TC and MItro adding cav and Knockeart wouldn't say a disaster. Justdefence that mainly needs sorting as it stands, if that was sorted I would accept not replacing Anguissa
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 30, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.

Weakens Bristol City's defense.    I approve.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 07:43:09 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 30, 2019, 07:21:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
Rumoured fee 20-25 million, maybe replacing Dunk who could be Leicester bound i guess

United starting a transfer chain that doubled each players worth. Kind of impressive.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 30, 2019, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 30, 2019, 06:54:58 PM
Quote from: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...

I wouldn't be surprised if this one turns out to be true. Smells like a typical TK signing:

-Never played outside Spain
-Spent most of his career in the second tier or lower playing for B-teams.
-Top flight experience limited to 45 matches over the last two seasons for a lower half team.

A stats signing if there ever was one. He could turn out great of course...

Spot on

His full name may as well be Ragnar Chema Rui Jozabed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mrmicawbers on July 30, 2019, 07:51:54 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 30, 2019, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 30, 2019, 06:54:58 PM
Quote from: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...

I wouldn't be surprised if this one turns out to be true. Smells like a typical TK signing:

-Never played outside Spain
-Spent most of his career in the second tier or lower playing for B-teams.
-Top flight experience limited to 45 matches over the last two seasons for a lower half team.

A stats signing if there ever was one. He could turn out great of course...

Spot on

His full name may as well be Ragnar Chema Rui Jozabed
Have you considered stand up.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 30, 2019, 07:52:04 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PM
This is a disaster of a window.

Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again

You're not worth the argument.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: west kowloon white on July 30, 2019, 08:03:40 PM
+1
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:16:21 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 30, 2019, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 30, 2019, 06:54:58 PM
Quote from: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...

I wouldn't be surprised if this one turns out to be true. Smells like a typical TK signing:

-Never played outside Spain
-Spent most of his career in the second tier or lower playing for B-teams.
-Top flight experience limited to 45 matches over the last two seasons for a lower half team.

A stats signing if there ever was one. He could turn out great of course...

Spot on

His full name may as well be Ragnar Chema Rui Jozabed




Dont forget Djalo😉
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 30, 2019, 08:36:38 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??


Ask Chelsea!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on July 30, 2019, 08:44:19 PM
Because Lampard is still assessing his squad as are many managers who are only getting players back from summer tournaments this week. How many have Utd, Spurs etc signed.

Expect a domino effect in the next week or so when a lot of clubs do their business.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 30, 2019, 08:45:54 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
I tend to agree, although i do bails at times when they have been their clubs player of the year, memories of Pringle and Stearman come flooding back
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 30, 2019, 08:45:54 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
I tend to agree, although i do bails at times when they have been their clubs player of the year, memories of Pringle and Stearman come flooding back




Yep there is that but Stears was a Wolves fan made good so probably blinded a few. I've heard Leeds, Wednesday, Bristol City fans etc all say Hector was the nuts last season.
Take on board Lampard assessing the squad but with all the will in the world I cant see him figuring. Tomori another player if the year at Derby would be another one. Think hes Premier league bound though
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on July 30, 2019, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: KJS on July 30, 2019, 06:56:38 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PM
This is a disaster of a window.

Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again
You're happy with the window?

Why don't you run along and support QPHA because you are obviously not a Fulham fan
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BernieBoy on July 30, 2019, 09:08:39 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.

They are talking £20m+ though, which is madness! Got to think they are lining up Dunk replacement if he goes to Leicester.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 30, 2019, 09:32:37 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 30, 2019, 08:45:54 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
I tend to agree, although i do bails at times when they have been their clubs player of the year, memories of Pringle and Stearman come flooding back




Yep there is that but Stears was a Wolves fan made good so probably blinded a few. I've heard Leeds, Wednesday, Bristol City fans etc all say Hector was the nuts last season.
Take on board Lampard assessing the squad but with all the will in the world I cant see him figuring. Tomori another player if the year at Derby would be another one. Think hes Premier league bound though

So 2 defenders up for grabs, whats everyone playing at all clubs must be crap at transfers if they havent been signed them, sack all Dof, Mangers, chairpersons and tea ladies
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 30, 2019, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 07:43:09 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 30, 2019, 07:21:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
Rumoured fee 20-25 million, maybe replacing Dunk who could be Leicester bound i guess

United starting a transfer chain that doubled each players worth. Kind of impressive.

You are so right. The possible domino effect is about to kick in!
Rumoured transfers about to happen:-

Webster - Bristol City to Brighton
Dunk - Brighton to Leicester
Maguire - Leicester to Man. Utd.

It happens every transfer window, in all divisions, in last 7-10 days of the window. So all you of dis-believers out there, have faith, FFC will do the business required. COYW.



Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tooting legend on July 30, 2019, 11:14:42 PM
Can we use this site for FFC transfers and possible moves Im not interested in other clubs news. It gets so boring coming on here and someone is posting another clubs news this is FFC keep it that way. On that note goodnight.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Arthur on July 31, 2019, 12:31:51 AM
Quote from: Tooting legend on July 30, 2019, 11:14:42 PM
Can we use this site for FFC transfers and possible moves Im not interested in other clubs news. It gets so boring coming on here and someone is posting another clubs news this is FFC keep it that way. On that note goodnight.

This same sentiment arose here a couple of days ago. As was noted then, there is a thread for you; it has only Fulham-related transfer rumours and news and no additional comments. At the time of my writing, however, it's dropped as far back as page 5 of the discussion listings: https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=71152.0

At least it won't take long to catch up with all our reported activity this summer: in spite of that it's been going for the past three months, there's only four pages to it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 31, 2019, 07:40:33 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??

FFP
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 07:49:12 AM
Quote from: BernieBoy on July 30, 2019, 09:08:39 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.

They are talking £20m+ though, which is madness! Got to think they are lining up Dunk replacement if he goes to Leicester.

Yes its madness,but I'd rather we spent 20 mill on
a towering centre back like him than throw away over 50 mill on two useless midfielders from France.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2019, 07:56:58 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 31, 2019, 07:40:33 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??

FFP



People with a far greater knowledge of FFP than I have reckon we've got money to spend, although not sure if that was factoring in expected  funds from Sess transfer ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 31, 2019, 08:26:43 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2019, 07:56:58 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 31, 2019, 07:40:33 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??

FFP

People with a far greater knowledge of FFP than I have reckon we've got money to spend, although not sure if that was factoring in expected  funds from Sess transfer ?

TK has always spent the maximium allowed by FFP, i'm sure he will this year too.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MikeW on July 31, 2019, 08:34:31 AM
I remember watching Hector as a teenager on loan at Cheltenham.  He was head and shoulders above everyone else on the field even then so I guess is is pretty good and physically robust now,  Go for him TK!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Arthur on July 31, 2019, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 07:49:12 AM
Yes its madness,but I'd rather we spent 20 mill on a towering centre back like him than throw away over 50 mill on two useless midfielders from France.

Put like that, who wouldn't?

But that was then and this is now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on July 31, 2019, 09:56:36 AM
Another person who has no football experience and doesn't know what he's talking about !

"If you asked any manager in the Championship which squad he'd like, it'd certainly be our one." - Galey 💬 #WednesdayWisdom

Woops - didn't Tony Gale play 277 matches for us - maybe we all need some of what he's taking
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
I think in regards to FFP  ultimately we have a set space to move within so the quality/amount we are able to spend on the next batch of players is to be split between what's left. What's left is massively effected by sales. It may well be that were waiting to know on Sess before going for Plan A, B or C etc. As we could spend say 5million on a RB/CB target now thinking we need to spread the budget around 4/5 positions... only to find out if wed waited till sess went we could have afforded a £12 million pound player instead. (These are just example figures)

Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Another one he mentioned was that we opted early for Bryan because Southampton wanted an extortion for Targett...only to turn around on the last day of the window and then offer him out for half as much.

Its not straight forward basically, there are lots of gambles made by every team, lots of cat and mouse games and there are tons of factors at play, in and out of our control and in this instance one of the major ones has been Sess. Will he stay, will he go, what fee will we get, Tony said as much in that podcast. Its a major factor.

(P.s statto this was my reference to ffp mentioned in another thread thought I'd just reply here in one go)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.   
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.   

The last paragraph should be framed and hung up in his office.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.   

The last paragraph should be framed and hung up in his office.

Actually I think I was mistaken with the last paragraph. We outdid ourselves in August 2019.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 31, 2019, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.   

The last paragraph should be framed and hung up in his office.

how can a headless chicken have a beak full of money? :-)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.   


Again,
on paper, at the time, Sigurdsson looked like the CB we all wanted and had performed at a high level in a world cup, Jozabed had shown some real talent in La Liga where he still plays, you may recall many were excited by him at the time, and Kebano has been a useful squad asset in our last 2 championship seasons and contributed to our promotion. Martins scoring record in the league previous also was impressive on paper, despite, as you rightly say, not being our number one target (every team misses out on a lot of their first options every year not just us).

So knowing that no one can completely predict the future, it's really important to understand the context of the moment in which players were signed. It is not an insignificant thing to breezed over with hindsight like some keep doing only. Yes, consequently you're right, we should look back and analyse why things didn't work out and if there are things that could be done differently, some things can't be though, we can only look at the stuff in out control. Naturally, that is a limited amount when it comes to doing business with multiple clubs.

Also there are endless amounts of transfers for all clubs that are made early that haven't worked out either.

Tony didn't say it always works, he said sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Just like every single director of football, in the country. Again, It ain't as straightforward as many think it is or want it to be.

You're bound to disagree so better we just walk away on this one.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.   

The last paragraph should be framed and hung up in his office.

how can a headless chicken have a beak full of money? :-)

fair point!!!!!  :doh:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on July 31, 2019, 02:00:16 PM
I do find the endless TC bashing wearing, it's not like every club hasn't made a few high profile signings that don't work out.

Spurs with Soldado, Capoue, Paulinho, Jansen, N'die to name but five

Benteke at Liverpool over £40 million.

Fred, Mikataryan and Ballie at Man U

In fact liverpool have spent over £1 billion on buying players in the premier league and still haven't won the title.

So he makes some misses, but you can't say he isn't funding it
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: colinwhite on July 31, 2019, 02:05:14 PM
Agreed. Venting frustration at TK at every turn is very tedious !
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 02:06:49 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.   

The last paragraph should be framed and hung up in his office.

how can a headless chicken have a beak full of money? :-)

Simply because this particular headless chickens beak is not attached to its head like normal chickens, it's attached elsewhere on its person.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on July 31, 2019, 02:44:24 PM
Did you ever wonder why transfers are so difficult to complete ?

CAHILL PLAYING WAITING GAME

Gary Cahill's future could depend on whether Manchester United's lengthy pursuit of Harry Maguire is a success.

Maguire's move to United would likely prompt a bid from Leicester for another England defender, Burnley's James Tarkowski  – although Leicester may baulk at the £50m release clause in his contract.

If a deal for Tarkowski to move to the King Power is agreed before next Thursday's deadline, that would then prompt Burnley to move for 33-year old Cahill, who is available on a free transfer.


I'm sure it can't be this difficult for us - can it?


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 02:52:26 PM
Someone anyone somewhere over the rainbow,go find  a centre back.🎲🎰🃏
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 31, 2019, 03:00:53 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.   

It kind of does make sense if we had look at them and in negotiations knowing what we might need, like if you go out on a Saturday night but know you have a bill to pay next week you would be a fool to piss up the wall and leave yourself short
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 31, 2019, 03:11:51 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Breed scouting for us know as well cool. Ayer could not get in the Celtic team, wasnt even one of their top 4 centre backs, was loaned out to Kilmarnock, not knocking him per say but the last centre back we signed from a mid table Scottish team didn't turn out too well for us
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 31, 2019, 03:14:55 PM
didnt say he is scouting. i believe he knows him through him playing for the national team and has "recommended" him to us...thats all the news i have at the moment other than Arter is supposedly close but we all know that already
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on July 31, 2019, 03:16:32 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:14:55 PM
didnt say he is scouting. i believe he knows him through him playing for the national team and has "recommended" him to us...thats all the news i have at the moment other than Arter is supposedly close but we all know that already
Fair enough, would have thought Arter delayed now due to the Gosling injury
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ealex40 on July 31, 2019, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.

I seem to remember that we sold Jozabed for 5 million pounds and made a profit over what he cost.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 31, 2019, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: junior white on July 31, 2019, 03:11:51 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Breed scouting for us know as well cool. Ayer could not get in the Celtic team, wasnt even one of their top 4 centre backs, was loaned out to Kilmarnock, not knocking him per say but the last centre back we signed from a mid table Scottish team didn't turn out too well for us

Ajer was a regular starter last season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 31, 2019, 03:22:25 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...

Ajer would be great! Tall and strong (197 cm). He played and scored in their first CL game this season.
He is a regular in the Norwegian national team.

He remind me of Brede!

Do you know if the Kahns want him?

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 03:26:37 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 31, 2019, 03:22:25 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...

Ajer would be great! Tall and strong (197 cm). He played and scored in their first CL game this season.
He is a regular in the Norwegian national team.

He remind me of Brede!

Do you know if the Kahns want him?

Do we know if he wants to drop down to championship? Not to be too harsh on Scottish football but he is getting CL football etc.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 31, 2019, 03:27:17 PM
i have to be honest, i have no idea other than Brede has recommended him to us. i dont know if we have even made an enquiry but i know we have sent scouts to watch him on that recomendation this pre season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 31, 2019, 03:27:54 PM
id have thought more money and better career prospects with us even if celtic get 6 games in the group stages
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...

Didn't Brede recommend a donkey to us in January?😋
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 31, 2019, 03:56:10 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on July 31, 2019, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.

I seem to remember that we sold Jozabed for 5 million pounds and made a profit over what he cost.

Fees are undisclosed so who knows.

According to transfermarkt we bought him for £3.6m and sold him for £3.15m so lost £450k plus his wages for a year (£1.5m?)

Not terrible I suppose but the point is, it doesn't seem to make sense to refuse to pay an expensive loan fee for Pereira (surely not more than £2m?) early in the window when we were throwing £12m around later on some absolutely shocking signings
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on July 31, 2019, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...

Didn't Brede recommend a donkey to us in January?😋

No. He was not involved.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 03:56:10 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on July 31, 2019, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.

I seem to remember that we sold Jozabed for 5 million pounds and made a profit over what he cost.

Fees are undisclosed so who knows.

According to transfermarkt we bought him for £3.6m and sold him for £3.15m so lost £450k plus his wages for a year (£1.5m?)

Not terrible I suppose but the point is, it doesn't seem to make sense to refuse to pay an expensive loan fee for Pereira (surely not more than £2m?) early in the window when we were throwing £12m around later on some absolutely shocking signings

We both know that 12m came from selling McCormack in early August and that funded Jozabed, Sigurdsson, Kebano and Johansen in the later part of the window. It's not like we had it in the bank in June.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:12:25 PM


Do we know if he wants to drop down to championship? Not to be too harsh on Scottish football but he is getting CL football etc.
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I know they have champions league, for a short time anyway but the championship a step down from Scottish football? You're having a laugh😂
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 31, 2019, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 03:56:10 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on July 31, 2019, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.

I seem to remember that we sold Jozabed for 5 million pounds and made a profit over what he cost.

Fees are undisclosed so who knows.

According to transfermarkt we bought him for £3.6m and sold him for £3.15m so lost £450k plus his wages for a year (£1.5m?)

Not terrible I suppose but the point is, it doesn't seem to make sense to refuse to pay an expensive loan fee for Pereira (surely not more than £2m?) early in the window when we were throwing £12m around later on some absolutely shocking signings

We both know that 12m came from selling McCormack in early August and that funded Jozabed, Sigurdsson, Kebano and Johansen in the later part of the window. It's not like we had it in the bank in June.

We knew there was big interest in McCormack in May, probably earlier
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-news-digest-reported-11399896

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 31, 2019, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:12:25 PM

I know they have champions league, for a short time anyway but the championship a step down from Scottish football? You're having a laugh😂

Moussa Dembele saw it as a step up. What we think isn't really relevant to what a footballer would think. Malcolm (who we were trying to sign last year) is currently moving to Zenit St Petersburg rather than Everton as they have Champion's League football.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 03:56:10 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on July 31, 2019, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.

Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.

We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.

We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.

I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.

I seem to remember that we sold Jozabed for 5 million pounds and made a profit over what he cost.

Fees are undisclosed so who knows.

According to transfermarkt we bought him for £3.6m and sold him for £3.15m so lost £450k plus his wages for a year (£1.5m?)

Not terrible I suppose but the point is, it doesn't seem to make sense to refuse to pay an expensive loan fee for Pereira (surely not more than £2m?) early in the window when we were throwing £12m around later on some absolutely shocking signings

We both know that 12m came from selling McCormack in early August and that funded Jozabed, Sigurdsson, Kebano and Johansen in the later part of the window. It's not like we had it in the bank in June.

We knew there was big interest in McCormack in May, probably earlier
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-news-digest-reported-11399896



Jokanovic was talking about building the team around him in May as well. You can't think it's a coincidence that we happened to spend the exact amount we got for McCormack after we sold him. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 04:28:18 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 31, 2019, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:12:25 PM

I know they have champions league, for a short time anyway but the championship a step down from Scottish football? You're having a laugh😂

Moussa Dembele saw it as a step up. What we think isn't really relevant to what a footballer would think. Malcolm (who we were trying to sign last year) is currently moving to Zenit St Petersburg rather than Everton as they have Champion's League football.

Cheers, I thought my comment made it clear I thought the Scottish league was a step down but CL is enticing. Also, some just want trophies and success on their CV plus CL experience so Celtic are an obvious stepping stone.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Breed Hangerland has just denied this on Twitter.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2019, 04:29:17 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 03:26:37 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 31, 2019, 03:22:25 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...

Ajer would be great! Tall and strong (197 cm). He played and scored in their first CL game this season.
He is a regular in the Norwegian national team.

He remind me of Brede!

Do you know if the Kahns want him?

Do we know if he wants to drop down to championship? Not to be too harsh on Scottish football but he is getting CL football etc.




Hangeland has just said on twitter that its not true
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:31:12 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Breed Hangerland has just denied this on Twitter.
Det stemmer ikke. Translation it's not true.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on July 31, 2019, 04:31:38 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Breed Hangerland has just denied this on Twitter.

So does that mean Hangerland reads these pages?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on July 31, 2019, 04:33:09 PM
Can anyone remember the last page that contained genuine transfer gossip?

I would bet there are more column inches on this thread slagging off TK that actual transfer rumours
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on July 31, 2019, 04:33:30 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 31, 2019, 02:05:14 PM
Agreed. Venting frustration at TK at every turn is very tedious !
After the 25000th post saying the same thing, it gets a bit mindnumbing.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
After his tweet, we can discredit that ITK agent then can't we.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on July 31, 2019, 04:53:41 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:27:08 PM
Jokanovic was talking about building the team around him in May as well. You can't think it's a coincidence that we happened to spend the exact amount we got for McCormack after we sold him. 

So what are you suggesting the chronology might have been?
Aston Villa et al offer £10m for McCormack in May and we say no.
We enquire about Pereira in June but can't afford the £2m loan fee.
Then Villa increase their offer to £12m in August so we accept it.
Suddenly we have £12m and spunk it on Jozabed, Kebano and Sigurdsson in the last week of the window.

Sorry but if so, that just sounds like, as usual, we suffered because no one at FFC attached any time-sensitivity to transfers.
Haggling over an extra couple of million for McCormack or a million less for Pereira, where did it get us?
A bunch of overpriced foreigners brought in too late to adapt to English football, and an embarrassing 11th hour loan deal for Chris Martin.

We would have been better off accepting a lower offer for McCormack and getting all the business (outward and inward) done in June/July.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on July 31, 2019, 04:57:44 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
After his tweet, we can discredit that ITK agent then can't we.

Can you post the tweet?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 31, 2019, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
After his tweet, we can discredit that ITK agent then can't we.

yup if you like - not going to bite
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
After his tweet, we can discredit that ITK agent then can't we.

yup if you like - not going to bite

Only kidding  :003: as always, appreciate passing on what you heard. Slow work day
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on July 31, 2019, 05:16:01 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 04:53:41 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:27:08 PM
Jokanovic was talking about building the team around him in May as well. You can't think it's a coincidence that we happened to spend the exact amount we got for McCormack after we sold him. 

So what are you suggesting the chronology might have been?
Aston Villa et al offer £10m for McCormack in May and we say no.
We enquire about Pereira in June but can't afford the £2m loan fee.
Then Villa increase their offer to £12m in August so we accept it.
Suddenly we have £12m and spunk it on Jozabed, Kebano and Sigurdsson in the last week of the window.

Sorry but if so, that just sounds like, as usual, we suffered because no one at FFC attached any time-sensitivity to transfers.
Haggling over an extra couple of million for McCormack or a million less for Pereira, where did it get us?
A bunch of overpriced foreigners brought in too late to adapt to English football, and an embarrassing 11th hour loan deal for Chris Martin.

We would have been better off accepting a lower offer for McCormack and getting all the business (outward and inward) done in June/July.

When I saw the thread was Transfer Gossip - I thought it might be for this season - apparently not
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 31, 2019, 05:17:38 PM
Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on July 31, 2019, 05:23:47 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 05:17:38 PM
Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.

Was he a Fulham Academy graduate ?
BREAKING NEWS
Toni Duggan is joining Spanish league champions Atletico Madrid on a two-year contract.
The 28-year-old England international left Barcelona earlier this summer, after spending two years with the Catalan club, helping them to last season's Champions League final.
Duggan has previously played for Everton and Manchester City and has registered 22 goals in 75 international appearances.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on July 31, 2019, 05:27:17 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 05:17:38 PM
Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.

She isn't going to be playing for the mens side. The Atletico Madrid womens team won last year.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: dgnffc on July 31, 2019, 05:27:21 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 31, 2019, 05:23:47 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 05:17:38 PM
Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.

Was he a Fulham Academy graduate ?
BREAKING NEWS
Toni Duggan is joining Spanish league champions Atletico Madrid on a two-year contract.
The 28-year-old England international left Barcelona earlier this summer, after spending two years with the Catalan club, helping them to last season's Champions League final.
Duggan has previously played for Everton and Manchester City and has registered 22 goals in 75 international appearances.
Think this might be a she

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 05:44:21 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 04:53:41 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:27:08 PM
Jokanovic was talking about building the team around him in May as well. You can't think it's a coincidence that we happened to spend the exact amount we got for McCormack after we sold him. 

So what are you suggesting the chronology might have been?
Aston Villa et al offer £10m for McCormack in May and we say no.
We enquire about Pereira in June but can't afford the £2m loan fee.
Then Villa increase their offer to £12m in August so we accept it.
Suddenly we have £12m and spunk it on Jozabed, Kebano and Sigurdsson in the last week of the window.

Sorry but if so, that just sounds like, as usual, we suffered because no one at FFC attached any time-sensitivity to transfers.
Haggling over an extra couple of million for McCormack or a million less for Pereira, where did it get us?
A bunch of overpriced foreigners brought in too late to adapt to English football, and an embarrassing 11th hour loan deal for Chris Martin.

We would have been better off accepting a lower offer for McCormack and getting all the business (outward and inward) done in June/July.



Having an interest in, doesn't mean we'd agreed on a fee or even knew what the initial bid would be for certain.

Once you know there is interest, you go. Ok team, we "might" get a figure around lets say 12 million here, but, we might not. Now let's explore what we could do if we did have that, and what we could do if we don't have that coming in. Then let's try and work out the best scenario for us... Maybe then while working that out, your manager speaks up and says they want to keep this player, so you think, hmmm ok maybe we should try to do that...then all of a sudden, that player themselves might turn around and say, hey guys actually, I was happy to stay, but now I know there is interest from that club, I do really want to go there....

In that time, some of your 1st choice targets that you'd have bid for, had you known earlier you definitely were going to have that money coming in, may have already been sold elsewhere. Or, some of the selling clubs, now knowing you have sold a big asset and are desperate, may now want a piece of that pie and will try and drive prices up ....and....and....and.... so many different variables. It's not a simple exercise, there are a huge amount of moving goalposts all the time.

Other examples of quotes from the podcast interview..... 'If I'd have taken Okaka early and opted to make the signing for peace of mind, we wouldn't have got Mitrovic.'
'sometimes you have to wait until the better players become available.'   This is just how it is, and how many Directors of different clubs say it is.

Other quotes "there are times when I didn't wait and I regretted it, and there are times when I waited too long" Yup...there's no definitive answer or blueprint.

It's not straight forward. There is no simple answer. Its never got right every time by anyone. Even getting transfers right 'most' of the time ,is tricky for the majority of clubs.

The loan fee for Pereira was roughly the same as the cost of the first of 2 payments on Stefan Johansson's contract...plus we got Piazon instead in that loan slot. Had we got business tied up early with Pereira,  we probably wouldn't have got stefjo who was vital that season. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesnt.

'We are on a tight budget in the championship' . You have to move the money around to make it work where it's needed as the moving pieces shift. Again. It's not just the simplicity of transfer fees, there are wages involved, bonus' etc. etc.


p.s so sorry to those irritated by this topic being brought up on here again. I totally get it, I also just want to read transfer rumours, instead of the constant diverting of everything that pops up into a chance to show how useless Tony Khan is. The counter-arguments aren't the reason it happens in the first place though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on July 31, 2019, 06:10:28 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
After his tweet, we can discredit that ITK agent then can't we.

yup if you like - not going to bite

Only kidding  :003: as always, appreciate passing on what you heard. Slow work day

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 06:40:42 PM
Oh well another blank day.
I'm off for an early night,nudge me if anything happens....💤💤💤💤💤💤💤
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on July 31, 2019, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 06:40:42 PM
Oh well another blank day.
I'm off for an early night,nudge me if anything happens....💤💤💤💤💤💤💤

Nudge nudge, wink wink
Man: 'Evening, squire!

Squire: (stiffly) Good evening.

Man: Is, uh,...Is your wife a goer, eh? Know whatahmean, know whatahmean, nudge nudge, know whatahmean, say no more?

Squire: I, uh, I beg your pardon?

Man: Your, uh, your wife, does she go, eh, does she go, eh?

Squire: (flustered) Well, she sometimes 'goes', yes.

Man: Aaaaaaaah bet she does, I bet she does, say no more, say no more, know whatahmean, nudge nudge?

Squire: (confused) I'm afraid I don't quite follow you.

Man: Follow me. Follow me. That's good, that's good! A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat!

Squire: Are you, uh,...are you selling something?

Man: SELLING! Very good, very good! Ay? Ay? Ay? (pause) Oooh! Ya wicked Ay! Wicked Ay! Oooh hooh! Say No MORE!

Squire: Well, I, uh....

Man: Is, your uh, is your wife a sport, ay?

Squire: Um, she likes sport, yes!

Man: I bet she does, I bet she does!

Squire: As a matter of fact she's very fond of cricket.

Man: 'Oo isn't? Likes games, eh? Knew she would. Likes games, eh? She's been around a bit, been around?

Squire: She has traveled, yes. She's from Scarsdale. (pause)

Man: SAY NO MORE!!

Man: Scarsdale, saynomore, saynomore, saynomore, squire!

Squire: I wasn't going to!

Man: Oh! Well, never mind. Dib dib? Is your uh, is your wife interested in....photography, ay? 'Photographs, ay', he asked him knowlingly?

Squire: Photography?

Man: Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more?

Squire: Holiday snaps, eh?

Man: They could be, they could be taken on holiday. Candid, you know, CANDID photography?

Squire: No, no I'm afraid we don't have a camera.

Man: Oh. (leeringly) Still, mooooooh, ay? Mwoohohohohoo, ay? Hohohohohoho, ay?

Squire: Look... are you insinuating something?

Man: Oh, no, no, no...yes.

Squire: Well?

Man: Well, you're a man of the world, squire.

Squire: Yes...

Man: I mean, you've been around a bit, you know, like, you've, uh.... You've 'done it'....

Squire: What do you mean?

Man: Well, I mean like,....you've SLEPT, with a lady....

Squire: Yes....

Man: What's it like?




Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on July 31, 2019, 08:02:24 PM
Hahaha nudge nudge
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: keithh on July 31, 2019, 08:29:00 PM
Looking back to the 4 pages of the "Official 2019/20 Summer Transfer Thread" for the date of the last entry - it was 22nd July.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GJB on July 31, 2019, 08:31:57 PM
There's a chance the rumours about Hangeland aren't true, but there's also a chance Hangeland has denied those rumours for confidentiality reasons. If true, the club will not want Hangeland going onto twitter spreading their transfer plans for anybody to hear so have probably told him to keep his mouth shut
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BernieBoy on July 31, 2019, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Hasn't played a lot of football recently, but I'd certainly take Dann. Think we need someone a bit younger, fitter and quicker.

The one thing I've noticed the last few days is there being no rumours to us linked to players, which is a bit disappointing. Nice to speculate over who we may or may not get with links in the press.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GJB on July 31, 2019, 08:58:19 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Dann is 32 now and only played 660 minutes last season in the prem - about 7.5 games. Firstly, he's old and would mean we'd be looking for a replacement within a year or two and also if we're purchasing a new player, wouldn't we rather somebody who had played the entirety of last season for their club? Or were you suggesting we buy him as purely a back-up?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 31, 2019, 08:58:26 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on July 31, 2019, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Hasn't played a lot of football recently, but I'd certainly take Dann. Think we need someone a bit younger, fitter and quicker.

The one thing I've noticed the last few days is there being no rumours to us linked to players, which is a bit disappointing. Nice to speculate over who we may or may not get with links in the press.

Been thinking the same. It's been super quiet.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GJB on July 31, 2019, 09:02:10 PM
Does anybody know if Michael Hector has played much pre-season?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 09:17:49 PM
Nudge Nudge....lol
Johnny Depp guested on the show,said Paul
Whitehouse is funniest guy ever.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on July 31, 2019, 09:21:24 PM
Zzzz. Getting so bored. No football, no transfer rumours! At least the league starts on Friday
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 31, 2019, 09:31:38 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on July 31, 2019, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Hasn't played a lot of football recently, but I'd certainly take Dann. Think we need someone a bit younger, fitter and quicker.

The one thing I've noticed the last few days is there being no rumours to us linked to players, which is a bit disappointing. Nice to speculate over who we may or may not get with links in the press.

Could you image if TK signed him, it would be why have we sign a 32 year old that hasn't played in the last year, whats Khan doing hes a joke probably on big wages as well coming from the premier league why need young players for when we go up
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 31, 2019, 08:58:19 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Dann is 32 now and only played 660 minutes last season in the prem - about 7.5 games. Firstly, he's old and would mean we'd be looking for a replacement within a year or two and also if we're purchasing a new player, wouldn't we rather somebody who had played the entirety of last season for their club? Or were you suggesting we buy him as purely a back-up?

He had an injury last season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 09:34:42 PM
Welsh News saying 10 million bid in for Cardiff keeper Neil Etheridge,from another Championship side.
Us I wonder.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: One Martin Thomas on July 31, 2019, 09:38:57 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 09:34:42 PM
Welsh News saying 10 million bid in for Cardiff keeper Neil Etheridge,from another Championship side.
Us I wonder.

Could be us; could be Leeds or maybe Huddersfield??? Who else has cash???
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 09:44:06 PM
Only thing if it is us could mean that Betts is on his way to Bournemouth.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on July 31, 2019, 09:52:55 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 31, 2019, 08:58:19 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Dann is 32 now and only played 660 minutes last season in the prem - about 7.5 games. Firstly, he's old and would mean we'd be looking for a replacement within a year or two and also if we're purchasing a new player, wouldn't we rather somebody who had played the entirety of last season for their club? Or were you suggesting we buy him as purely a back-up?

He had an injury last season
probably on our short list then!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 09:54:07 PM
I doubt it's Fulham
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: GJB on July 31, 2019, 09:54:50 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 31, 2019, 08:58:19 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Dann is 32 now and only played 660 minutes last season in the prem - about 7.5 games. Firstly, he's old and would mean we'd be looking for a replacement within a year or two and also if we're purchasing a new player, wouldn't we rather somebody who had played the entirety of last season for their club? Or were you suggesting we buy him as purely a back-up?

He had an injury last season

Only till December 2018 by the looks of it - but to be fair, probably struggled to break back into the first team at that stage in the season. I'd still prefer somebody younger I think but I can see why you think he'd be useful in the squad
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Texas White on July 31, 2019, 09:57:28 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 31, 2019, 02:05:14 PM
Agreed. Venting frustration at TK at every turn is very tedious !

Yes i am sure it's impossible to get people to commit. Agents want to try and milk it to the last second.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BernieBoy on July 31, 2019, 11:00:10 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 09:34:42 PM
Welsh News saying 10 million bid in for Cardiff keeper Neil Etheridge,from another Championship side.
Us I wonder.

I hope not, I'd rather spend money on defence and midfield. Whilst he has done ok the last two seasons, I wouldn't say we are as desperate for an upgrade in that department as we are for CB, CM and RB.

I know people will have their own opinions, but I think Betts is a safe set of hands at this level. He played well second half of our promotion winning season when we went undefeated and made some crucial saves. I remember a one on one v Leeds, which we went on to win.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 11:43:39 PM
Agreed Betts is good enough, we don't need to waste money on a new keeper, there are far more reasons to spend money on the defence and to a lesser extent midfield.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on July 31, 2019, 11:57:04 PM
 would have thought it may be Leeds as Burnley have put a bid in for Peacock-Farrell

oh and why havent we signed Joe Hart yet
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 01, 2019, 08:25:32 AM
Fabri could be on his way to newly promoted Gazisehir Gaziantep FK according to Turkish media:

https://www.superhaber.tv/gazisehir-gaziantepten-fabri-bombasi-haber-215536
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on August 01, 2019, 08:49:51 AM
Quote from: Nero on July 31, 2019, 11:57:04 PM
would have thought it may be Leeds as Burnley have put a bid in for Peacock-Farrell

oh and why havent we signed Joe Hart yet

Gosh, almost forgot about JOE HART.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on August 01, 2019, 08:50:12 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Err, he is in my world.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 01, 2019, 08:53:46 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Take Betts any day, don't need Etheridge, don't want Etheridge.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 09:06:37 AM
Quote from: Twig on August 01, 2019, 08:50:12 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Err, he is in my world.

So why is no one lining up a £10m bid for Bettinelli? Why did 1 perform to a high level last season, winning Cardiff multiple games himself, and the other sit on the bench.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 09:07:15 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 01, 2019, 08:53:46 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Take Betts any day, don't need Etheridge, don't want Etheridge.

I don't want Etheridge, his distribution is as bad as Bettinelli's. But doesn't retract that he's a better goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham76 on August 01, 2019, 09:11:32 AM
Quote from: Twig on August 01, 2019, 08:50:12 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Err, he is in my world.

They're both decent but Betts more than capable. I don't think it's an area we need to be spending £10m & showing no significant improvement.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 09:16:26 AM
Breaking News..
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There is no news....Zzzzz
But the day is young....Come on Fulham, let's go.😝
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 09:26:05 AM
Quote from: Fulham76 on August 01, 2019, 09:11:32 AM
Quote from: Twig on August 01, 2019, 08:50:12 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Err, he is in my world.

They're both decent but Betts more than capable. I don't think it's an area we need to be spending £10m & showing no significant improvement.

This topic was a bit like the Bryan vs Targett debate for me. The difference in quality is so marginal, it's not worth it....ha
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle. Stoke is interested but it's too much for them.

Is it a good price for such a striker? Him and Mitro would be deadly in 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 system. I think WBA used him also in 4-3-3 as winger but it's obviously not optimal option. Nevertheless, he scored 24 goals last season.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle. Stoke is interested but it's too much for them.

Is it a good price for such a striker? Him and Mitro would be deadly in 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 system. I think WBA used him also in 4-3-3 as winger but it's obviously not optimal option. Nevertheless, he scored 24 goals last season.

I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle. Stoke is interested but it's too much for them.

Is it a good price for such a striker? Him and Mitro would be deadly in 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 system. I think WBA used him also in 4-3-3 as winger but it's obviously not optimal option. Nevertheless, he scored 24 goals last season.

The transfer fee is fine but his stumbling block is his EPL contract and wage demands, WBA said they couldn't afford him due to FFP so it'll hard to see anyone else affording him that isn't on a loan deal I think. Might be wrong but that's my take on it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:27:55 AM
According to this paper we are second favorite to sign him. Probably no truth in it, but sounds good :) Yes, his PL salary is the issue.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-brom-leeds-newcastle-gayle-16310804

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 01, 2019, 10:31:40 AM
Quote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion

Exactly. No more bloody attackers
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woodlawn on August 01, 2019, 10:39:09 AM
I did hear he is on £40,000 a week and he would like a move back to London .I doubt that we are in for him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.

I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.

But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.

Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion

There is fair chance that we miss to upgrade our defense which leave us the strategy of outscoring rivals. What else? Gayle would be a step in that direction.

And if Mitro is injured, relying on Fonte will bring us a world of good...

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on August 01, 2019, 11:01:37 AM
Looks like Fabri is on his way to Turkey if the below report is to be believed

http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-player-close-signing-newly-promoted-club-talks-continue/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:28:18 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

if thats stat is true, thats impressive considering how mediocre our defence has been over the years compared to cardiffs.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Club Statement at 2pm.
Fulham have completed their business for this window.😋
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 01, 2019, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Club Statement at 2pm.
Fulham have completed their business for this window.😋

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:38:17 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Club Statement at 2pm.
Fulham have completed their business for this window.😋

Is this one of your veiled joke statements or is there truth to it.....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.

Unless we manage to shift Rui Fonte I suspect we won't be signing another striker.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:41:58 AM
Quote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.

Unless we manage to shift Rui Fonte I suspect we won't be signing another striker.

Honestly, with pace around him, I don't mind Fonte as backup. I'd have Kamara in front of him though as that pace up top would be ridiculous.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 01, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:41:58 AM
Quote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.

Unless we manage to shift Rui Fonte I suspect we won't be signing another striker.

Honestly, with pace around him, I don't mind Fonte as backup. I'd have Kamara in front of him though as that pace up top would be ridiculous.

It wouldn't be the worst, but I just can't see what Fonte adds as a lone striker. Agree about Kamara though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:41:58 AM
Quote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.

Unless we manage to shift Rui Fonte I suspect we won't be signing another striker.

Honestly, with pace around him, I don't mind Fonte as backup. I'd have Kamara in front of him though as that pace up top would be ridiculous.

It wouldn't be the worst, but I just can't see what Fonte adds as a lone striker. Agree about Kamara though.

I saw glimpses of a good hold up striker when he was with us. He was isolated a lot BUT he was also poor too often than not. I think theres a decent player there and with the right support, could step up when needed for us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 01, 2019, 12:06:02 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Exactly, you cant base performance on goals per game. It has to be based on shots. For instance you could go a few games with very few shots and others where you are peppered.
Favouritism playing its part in some stats...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 01, 2019, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Theres only one way to settle this argument get - ask TK and what ever he says is wrong
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 12:16:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:38:17 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Club Statement at 2pm.
Fulham have completed their business for this window.😋

Is this one of your veiled joke statements or is there truth to it.....


Would I Joke.😋
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 01, 2019, 12:17:51 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 01, 2019, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Theres only one way to settle this argument get - ask TK and what ever he says is wrong

im a big fan of Tony Khan but even i had to laugh at that :-)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 01, 2019, 12:26:27 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

If we think save ratio is only judge of goalkeepers, Fabri made 16 saves with 5 conceded last season at a 76% save ratio, compared to Betts making 20 saves with 20 goals comceeded at a 50% save ratio. The truth is other factors like command of the area need to be considered also.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on August 01, 2019, 12:28:13 PM
Can we please have a frikkin trade rumour!!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 01, 2019, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 01, 2019, 12:28:13 PM
Can we please have a frikkin trade rumour!!!!

i heard that are going to get a FX trading platform on the back of the shirts, will that so?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BernieBoy on August 01, 2019, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion

+1
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 01, 2019, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 01, 2019, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion

+1
have we even been linked with these 2, or is this just a wish list
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey?  :doh:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 01:10:41 PM
Linked by papers etc hardly best sources
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey?  :doh:

Well, not in relation to distribution or save %

Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey?  :doh:

Well, not in relation to distribution or save %

Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.

Especially not to spend 10m on him either.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.

I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.

But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.

Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
We are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:28:25 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey?  :doh:

Well, not in relation to distribution or save %

Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.

Save % of what though?

If I save 90% of shots from 45 yards am I better keeper than you if you save 10% of shots from 6 yards.

If you have a better defence infront of you restricting chances to shots that are less likely to be dangerous then yes I'd say it makes a big difference.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jeroen on August 01, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.

I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.

But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.

Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
We are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.

How about the guy we signed from Chelsea for a free for the U23 - He seemed lie a good prospect, can he be an understudy at some point during the season?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: dgnffc on August 01, 2019, 01:44:11 PM
Quote from: Jeroen on August 01, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.

I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.

But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.

Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
We are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.

How about the guy we signed from Chelsea for a free for the U23 - He seemed lie a good prospect, can he be an understudy at some point during the season?

He hasn't played in the last 2 U23 games and he's not got a squad number. Not sure what's happened to him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:28:25 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey?  :doh:

Well, not in relation to distribution or save %

Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.

Save % of what though?

If I save 90% of shots from 45 yards am I better keeper than you if you save 10% of shots from 6 yards.

If you have a better defence infront of you restricting chances to shots that are less likely to be dangerous then yes I'd say it makes a big difference.

IMO that reasoning is very questionable. You're assuming that when teams can't easily penetrate the Cardiff defence, they just give up and shoot aimlessly from 20 or 30 yrds out. Not sure it works like that. Also the problem with our "defence" is commonly blamed on players in midfield and attack not doing their defensive duties further up the field - doesn't that mean the difference between us and Cardiff was that we were giving the opposition more space in areas 20 or 30 yrds (or more) out? We weren't necessarily worse in and around the 6-yard box. 

In any case, the difference in Betts' and Etheridge's respective save percentages is greater than the difference between the quality of the defences in front of them. Cardiff were almost as crap as us and conceded 69 goals to our 81. Betts would need a save rate of about 57% to be as good as Etheridge allowing for how much better their defence was.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 01:55:10 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.

But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.

Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
We are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.

I would say that any club that buys a player 'to stop other teams' getting him (as you originally said) is, in football terms, guilty of stockpiling.

If (as it seems) you've changed your mind about the reason for wanting him, I shall agree and say that I, too - in an ideal scenario - would ike our attacking options to include Gayle. On the assumption, however, that £15M may be all that we can afford to still spend in this window, I would prefer that we strengthened in other positions.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: We Are Premier League on August 01, 2019, 02:02:40 PM
No one appears to like Christie as fullback, what if he could provide depth in CM instead...he was MOTM as part of a midffield trio for Ireland late last year...

https://www.the42.ie/martin-oneill-on-cyrus-christie-4285567-Oct2018/

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 01, 2019, 02:03:17 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 01, 2019, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 01, 2019, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion

+1
have we even been linked with these 2, or is this just a wish list
We have been linked to both of those two, Hector has been linked since May.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 03:03:03 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:28:25 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey?  :doh:

Well, not in relation to distribution or save %

Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.

Save % of what though?

If I save 90% of shots from 45 yards am I better keeper than you if you save 10% of shots from 6 yards.

If you have a better defence infront of you restricting chances to shots that are less likely to be dangerous then yes I'd say it makes a big difference.

IMO that reasoning is very questionable. You're assuming that when teams can't easily penetrate the Cardiff defence, they just give up and shoot aimlessly from 20 or 30 yrds out. Not sure it works like that. Also the problem with our "defence" is commonly blamed on players in midfield and attack not doing their defensive duties further up the field - doesn't that mean the difference between us and Cardiff was that we were giving the opposition more space in areas 20 or 30 yrds (or more) out? We weren't necessarily worse in and around the 6-yard box. 

In any case, the difference in Betts' and Etheridge's respective save percentages is greater than the difference between the quality of the defences in front of them. Cardiff were almost as crap as us and conceded 69 goals to our 81. Betts would need a save rate of about 57% to be as good as Etheridge allowing for how much better their defence was.

You've misread my point horribly. I'm not assuming anything about what exactly Cardiff are or aren't doing to stop or block shots. A 20 yard shot v a 6 yard shot is merely an example.

You can't tell me that all shots on goal have an equal chance of going in. The direciron, angle, pace and distance all play a part. Those factors are in part determined by the what the other 10 players on the defending team are doing on the pitch to (hopefully) attempt to prevent a goal.

So therefore, a goalkeepers save percentage of saving those  shots is in part effected by how good the goal scoring chance is which is effected by how good the defence is.

That's it.

So comparing Etheridges save % to Bettinellis is not very valuable wen you consider how different the two teams in front of those keepers are in terms of doing their collective job defensively.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 01, 2019, 03:33:07 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 03:03:03 PM
a goalkeepers save percentage of saving those  shots is in part effected by how good the goal scoring chance is which is effected by how good the defence is

I disagree, for the reasons stated in my post

To reiterate, I don't think you can infer from a team being poor defensively, that their GK faces a higher proportion (proportion, not number) of shots from close range or easier angles.

Perhaps you "misread my point horribly"

And in any case, to repeat my last point, which you haven't responded to, the difference between Etheridge's and Bettinellii' save percentages is even greater than the difference between the defences they had in front of them (which were both crap)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on August 01, 2019, 03:38:37 PM
Who cares about keepers  :dead horse:

What about some defenders and midfielders brought in
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 01, 2019, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: Jeroen on August 01, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.

I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.

But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.

Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
We are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.

How about the guy we signed from Chelsea for a free for the U23 - He seemed lie a good prospect, can he be an understudy at some point during the season?
dont see why not, obviously you will get naysayers on here in the same way that there was for when dembele burst onto the scene. I'm sure someone can find out, but I think crossdale has actually got a better scoring record than dembele had for youth teams
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 03:33:07 PM


To reiterate, I don't think you can infer from a team being poor defensively, that their GK faces a higher proportion (proportion, not number) of shots from close range or easier angles.


But I haven't said that. You've made that assumption.

I've only said that you can't use save percentage alone to judge two goal keepers against each other.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 04:26:52 PM
Well one things for sure there want be any new centre back in the side at Barnsley.😵
Remember when it was said still 7 days to go of Jan Window, anyone else think its going to repeat itself.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on August 01, 2019, 04:31:31 PM
Christie gets a hard time from this furom,and it's harsh in my opinion,but then if you argue this point I get a hard time.dont give a monkeys about it you love someone to rip your teeth into!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 01, 2019, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 03:33:07 PM


To reiterate, I don't think you can infer from a team being poor defensively, that their GK faces a higher proportion (proportion, not number) of shots from close range or easier angles.


But I haven't said that. You've made that assumption.

I've only said that you can't use save percentage alone to judge two goal keepers against each other.

So in your opinion, is there any reason to believe that Bettinelli faced a higher proportion of shots from close range than Etheridge?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jeroen on August 01, 2019, 04:41:57 PM
 
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We are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.
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How about the guy we signed from Chelsea for a free for the U23 - He seemed lie a good prospect, can he be an understudy at some point during the season?
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He hasn't played in the last 2 U23 games and he's not got a squad number. Not sure what's happened to him.
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Yeah weird, he scored in his first two games and social media was all over it (himself and Fulham)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on August 01, 2019, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: Jeroen on August 01, 2019, 04:41:57 PM

We are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.
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How about the guy we signed from Chelsea for a free for the U23 - He seemed lie a good prospect, can he be an understudy at some point during the season?
[/quote]

He hasn't played in the last 2 U23 games and he's not got a squad number. Not sure what's happened to him.
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Yeah weird, he scored in his first two games and social media was all over it (himself and Fulham)
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Might just have a knock and the only people who were promoting him to the first team were fans. Just because he hasnt been given a (first team) number doesnt mean he cant play in the future.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on August 01, 2019, 06:02:54 PM
An in-depth look at the signings already made, as well as looking at potential players to sign before the Deadline (and more).
https://t.co/RVtTqUTQvD?amp=1

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 06:56:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 03:33:07 PM


To reiterate, I don't think you can infer from a team being poor defensively, that their GK faces a higher proportion (proportion, not number) of shots from close range or easier angles.


But I haven't said that. You've made that assumption.

I've only said that you can't use save percentage alone to judge two goal keepers against each other.

So in your opinion, is there any reason to believe that Bettinelli faced a higher proportion of shots from close range than Etheridge?

Firstly, that's not the point is it. I'm talking about the quality of chances faced. Distance is simply one metric of that and is the easiest metric to measure (pardon the pun).

Secondly, Cardiff faced 36% of shots from outside the box. Fulham faced 34% of shots from outside the box.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on August 01, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Can't you start a new thread on blooming keeper stats?
Blimey!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 07:40:19 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 01, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Can't you start a new thread on blooming keeper stats?
Blimey!


064.gif. You have to love the transfer rumour thread becuase it is anything but  064.gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 01, 2019, 07:40:51 PM
Villa have spent 144.5 million and want two new players. I pray they go down!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 07:49:32 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 07:40:19 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 01, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Can't you start a new thread on blooming keeper stats?
Blimey!


064.gif. You have to love the transfer rumour thread becuase it is anything but  064.gif

+1 And he most probably not signing for us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 01, 2019, 07:53:14 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 06:56:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 03:33:07 PM


To reiterate, I don't think you can infer from a team being poor defensively, that their GK faces a higher proportion (proportion, not number) of shots from close range or easier angles.


But I haven't said that. You've made that assumption.

I've only said that you can't use save percentage alone to judge two goal keepers against each other.

So in your opinion, is there any reason to believe that Bettinelli faced a higher proportion of shots from close range than Etheridge?

Firstly, that's not the point is it. I'm talking about the quality of chances faced. Distance is simply one metric of that and is the easiest metric to measure (pardon the pun).

Secondly, Cardiff faced 36% of shots from outside the box. Fulham faced 34% of shots from outside the box.
FFS this is painful. So in your opinion, is there any reason to believe Bettinelli's saves were from higher quality chances than Etheridge's saves?

Anyway to cut to the chase, if I understand it correctly, you're not inferring from Cardiff having a (marginally) better defence that Bettinelli faced a higher proportion of shots from close range or from better quality chances than Etheridge. Rather, you're just pointing out that save percentage isn't conclusive proof of anything without scrutinising exactly what kind of shots were saved.

If that is indeed your position, fine, I entirely agree with you (although I must say it seems inconsistent with the wording of your original post, "Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then").

I will treat the save percentage as compelling evidence that Etheridge is (or played) better than Bettinelli, but not conclusive proof thereof. I suspect most readers treated it in the same, albeit without spelling that out like i have here.

In the same way that if a team had 90% of possession in a match and 40 shots on target, I'd treat that as compelling evidence that they dominated the match, but of course one would have to examine the nature of that possession and those shots before saying with absolute certainty who dominated the match.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on August 01, 2019, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on August 01, 2019, 06:02:54 PM
An in-depth look at the signings already made, as well as looking at potential players to sign before the Deadline (and more).
https://t.co/RVtTqUTQvD?amp=1



Just to add on- some of the names who I considered but didn't put in for various reasons whether it be not wanting a Right-Back, too expensive, too ambitious or in my opinion not good enough;
Florian Lejeune (Newcastle, CB)
Konstantinos Mavropanos (Arsenal, CB)
Dion Cools (Club Brugge, RB)
Reggie Cannon (FC Dallas, RB)
Collins Fai (Standard Liege, LB/RB)
Sasa Lukic (Torino, DM)
Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford, DM)
Mady Camara (Olympiakos, CM)
Lewis Holtby (Free Agent, CM)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on August 01, 2019, 08:02:33 PM
I would love Karagounis back in his prime
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 09:19:50 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 07:53:14 PM
I will treat the save percentage as compelling evidence that Etheridge is (or played) better than Bettinelli, but not conclusive proof thereof.

In the same way that if a team had 90% of possession in a match and 40 shots on target, I'd treat that as compelling evidence that they dominated the match...

Your comparison between Bettinelli and Etheridge is nowhere near as compelling as your imaginary match statistics, of course, and I would hesitate to use the word 'compelling' at all - for the reason that the 40 shots Bettinelli faced last season is a relatively small number for a 'save percentage' analysis.

Taking in a broader picture, I note that, in 2017-18, Etheridge conceded 37 goals in 45 Championship games. Marcus played 29 matches (including the play-offs) and conceded 20 goals. Nothing in this statistic that compels me to recommend Etheridge over Bettinelli.

I'm not trying to argue that Bettinelli is the better of the two - merely that, based on the information I have, the difference is not as evident as you are claiming.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 01, 2019, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 09:19:50 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 07:53:14 PM
I will treat the save percentage as compelling evidence that Etheridge is (or played) better than Bettinelli, but not conclusive proof thereof.

In the same way that if a team had 90% of possession in a match and 40 shots on target, I'd treat that as compelling evidence that they dominated the match...

Your comparison between Bettinelli and Etheridge is nowhere near as compelling as your imaginary match statistics, of course, and I would hesitate to use the word 'compelling' at all - for the reason that the 40 shots Bettinelli faced last season is a relatively small number for a 'save percentage' analysis.

Taking in a broader picture, I note that, in 2017-18, Etheridge conceded 37 goals in 45 Championship games. Marcus played 29 matches (including the play-offs) and conceded 20 goals. Nothing in this statistic that compels me to recommend Etheridge over Bettinelli.

I'm not trying to argue that Bettinelli is the better of the two - merely that, based on the information I have, the difference is not as evident as you are claiming.

A debate about semantics - Yaaaaawn  094.gif

Just how "evident" do you think I'm claiming the difference is? (And perhaps for context you should look at my comment in my original post that "FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge") Is it really worth arguing about?

Unless you're claiming the save percentage stats referred to by Facts Not Fiction are entirely insignificant, then WTF are we debating here - the meaning of the word "compelling"? Where exactly these stats sit on the spectrum between "not evident" and "conclusively proven"?

Surely on this forum you can find something better to debate than that. If it helps, I wrote some deliberately provocative posts about language on the Gareth Bale thread this afternoon. Surely they'll represent a bigger, better divergence from your personal opinions and something we can have a proper argument about.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on August 01, 2019, 09:50:06 PM
All this chat,no activity!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on August 01, 2019, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on August 01, 2019, 09:50:06 PM
All this chat,no activity!

But what chat, eh?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 01, 2019, 10:18:00 PM
Having trouble getting to sleep tonight, read the Betts.v. Etheridge discussion in the Summer Transfer Gossip posts, it's better than counting sheep!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 01, 2019, 11:31:18 PM
Anyone think TK has just folded his arms, Pouted, while thinking "if those plebs don't appreciate my expertise, I'm just not going to sign anyone and I'm going to Sqweem and Sqweem and sqweem" 😆🤣😂
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 09:19:50 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 07:53:14 PM
I will treat the save percentage as compelling evidence that Etheridge is (or played) better than Bettinelli, but not conclusive proof thereof.

In the same way that if a team had 90% of possession in a match and 40 shots on target, I'd treat that as compelling evidence that they dominated the match...

Your comparison between Bettinelli and Etheridge is nowhere near as compelling as your imaginary match statistics, of course, and I would hesitate to use the word 'compelling' at all - for the reason that the 40 shots Bettinelli faced last season is a relatively small number for a 'save percentage' analysis.

Taking in a broader picture, I note that, in 2017-18, Etheridge conceded 37 goals in 45 Championship games. Marcus played 29 matches (including the play-offs) and conceded 20 goals. Nothing in this statistic that compels me to recommend Etheridge over Bettinelli.

I'm not trying to argue that Bettinelli is the better of the two - merely that, based on the information I have, the difference is not as evident as you are claiming.

A debate about semantics - Yaaaaawn  094.gif

Just how "evident" do you think I'm claiming the difference is? (And perhaps for context you should look at my comment in my original post that "FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge") Is it really worth arguing about?

Unless you're claiming the save percentage stats referred to by Facts Not Fiction are entirely insignificant, then WTF are we debating here - the meaning of the word "compelling"? Where exactly these stats sit on the spectrum between "not evident" and "conclusively proven"?

Surely on this forum you can find something better to debate than that. If it helps, I wrote some deliberately provocative posts about language on the Gareth Bale thread this afternoon. Surely they'll represent a bigger, better divergence from your personal opinions and something we can have a proper argument about.

Nice one mate. You come across real well with belligerent drivel like this.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rock on August 01, 2019, 11:45:35 PM
Quote from: David I on August 01, 2019, 11:31:18 PM
Anyone think TK has just folded his arms, Pouted, while thinking "if those plebs don't appreciate my expertise, I'm just not going to sign anyone and I'm going to Sqweem and Sqweem and sqweem" 😆🤣😂

Confusing post. He is not available, please try again another time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 02, 2019, 01:45:49 AM
Quote from: The Rock on August 01, 2019, 11:45:35 PM
Quote from: David I on August 01, 2019, 11:31:18 PM
Anyone think TK has just folded his arms, Pouted, while thinking "if those plebs don't appreciate my expertise, I'm just not going to sign anyone and I'm going to Sqweem and Sqweem and sqweem" 😆🤣😂

Confusing post. He is not available, please try again another time.

It he has the patience to read all of this - I haven't - I just pass by anything to do with goalkeeping - so most of the last few days posts - TK is probably wondering why he bothers
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on August 02, 2019, 10:12:36 AM
Regarding Betts v Etheridge,

I think the fact Etheridge is a stronger more solid looking player and Betts looks gangly and a bit uncoordinated gives the perception that Etheridge is more in control of his area.

Personally, I think Etheridge shades it overall but I don't think there's enough difference to make it worth the change.


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 02, 2019, 10:18:41 AM
Looks like Fabri will leave on a season's long loan with Gazisehir Gaziantep paying all of his wages but no loan fee.

https://www.sporx.com/fabri-gazisehir-gaziantepe-transfer-yolunda-SXHBQ793957SXQ
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 02, 2019, 10:54:19 AM
Bit of Old/New News but a least its not a bout Goalkeepers


Tottenham confident of Ryan Sessegnon transfer despite Scott Parker's update on Fulham ace
SCOTT PARKER has insisted that Ryan Sessegnon will be in the right frame of mind to start the Championship season with Fulham, should his dream £25million move to Tottenham break down.
By TONY BANKS
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Fri, Aug 2, 2019 | UPDATED: 00:08, Fri, Aug 2, 2019


Tottenham have just a week left of the transfer window in which to land the Fulham starlet who they have been chasing all summer – but the north London club would prefer to complete the sale of Danny Rose first.

Arsenal have been linked with a move for the England defender, as have Paris Saint-Germain, Juventus and Atletico Madrid – but Rose is insistent he will only move if the deal is right for him, and he could now stay.

Sessegnon is still weeks away from full fitness after picking up a hamstring injury, and has made it clear to Fulham that he wants the move. The deal is expected to go through in the next week – but time is running out for the Cottagers to sign a replacement.


Fulham have been offered a couple of fringe Spurs players in midfielder Josh Onomah and winger Georges-Kevin Nkoudou, as part of the deal.

Five players Tottenham could sign before the transfer window shuts

Parker, whose team begin their attempt to bounce back from the Championship straight away at Barnsley on Saturday (3pm), said: "At this present moment, I expect Ryan still to be here when the window shuts.

"Obviously I have read the speculation. Will it affect him? That would be up to Ryan.

"It is not as if the phone has been ringing off the hook, a bid every other day for him and Fulham are turning it down, for him to have the hump.

"I had this too as a young player. But if there is one good thing about the transfer window it is that come 5 o'clock next week when the door shuts, he can't go anywhere.

Scott Parker hopes Fulham can keep Sessegnon (Image: GETTY)
At this present moment, I expect Ryan still to be here when the window shuts

"As a player you either get your head down, or it affects you. Ryan is not that boy anyway.   

"I am just looking at getting him as fit as we can and let's see what he can do. I have spoken to him.

"The conversations have been mainly around his fitness. I don't know how long it will be until he is ready."

Former Blackpool, Crystal Palace and Queens Park Rangers manager Ian Holloway is meanwhile worried about Mauricio Pochettino's future at the club.

The Argentine coach has spoken at length about the club's recruitment strategy of late and suggested he has minimal control over transfers.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: southwest6 on August 02, 2019, 11:03:47 AM
What's going on with Sess then? Run down the contract and leave for free next summer?

And will he play tomorrow?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 02, 2019, 11:07:24 AM
Quote from: southwest6 on August 02, 2019, 11:03:47 AM
What's going on with Sess then? Run down the contract and leave for free next summer?

And will he play tomorrow?

He is still some way from full fitness (see the post above yours) so he won't play tomorrow for sure. For the rest, we know exactly as much now as we did a few months ago. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on August 02, 2019, 01:27:53 PM
Ah but does he meet the STATS!!!!!! There is still time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 02, 2019, 01:27:53 PM
Ah but does he meet the STATS!!!!!! There is still time.


There is still time....How many times did we hear
that in the Jan window.😋
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 01:50:20 PM
Plenty going on elsewhere so far today,Two in at Swansea and Hull,one in at Derby and Wigan.
Two in at Derby now and Preston,one in at Reading.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: brightster on August 02, 2019, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.

Has never played for Arsenal, was on loan at Charlton last year, 10million for a player who is 21 and has only played 41 senior (Birmingham 10 Charlton 31) games in 2 years, thank god we didn't go for him! 
What with the Bristol City CB going to Brighton for 20 million the money is well out of hand for these players.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 02, 2019, 01:56:14 PM
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Tony Khan puts out a tweet on Monday promising "multiple signings"
Come on Tony make it happen  :005:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: brightster on August 02, 2019, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.

Has never played for Arsenal, was on loan at Charlton last year, 10million for a player who is 21 and has only played 41 senior (Birmingham 10 Charlton 31) games in 2 years, thank god we didn't go for him! 
What with the Bristol City CB going to Brighton for 20 million the money is well out of hand for these players.
Quote from: brightster on August 02, 2019, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.

Has never played for Arsenal, was on loan at Charlton last year, 10million for a player who is 21 and has only played 41 senior (Birmingham 10 Charlton 31) games in 2 years, thank god we didn't go for him! 
What with the Bristol City CB going to Brighton for 20 million the money is well out of hand for these players.

21 and a top prospect.
Was backbone of Charlton promotion side.
In today's prices I'd say what they paid about right.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 02, 2019, 02:13:57 PM
Milan want to sign Ajer (Celtic).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK

Selling their top scorer and best CB. Strange business.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 02, 2019, 03:05:37 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK

Selling their top scorer and best CB. Strange business.

Thats FFP and Roofe was entering the last year of his contract so whether or not he wouldnt sign a new one or wanted to much money I dont know
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 02, 2019, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK

Selling their top scorer and best CB. Strange business.

Bailey Peacock-Farrell gone to Burnley now as well. Could this perhaps mean that they have the cash to bring in Gayle?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 03:15:39 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 03:05:37 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK

Selling their top scorer and best CB. Strange business.

Thats FFP and Roofe was entering the last year of his contract so whether or not he wouldnt sign a new one or wanted to much money I dont know

What's FFP got to do with it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647

I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647

I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi. 
thank God you are not in charge of our transfers then, he is a fantastic centre back
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 02, 2019, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647

I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi. 
thank God you are not in charge of our transfers then, he is a fantastic centre back

Very good centre back but they've massively overpaid.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 02, 2019, 04:27:13 PM
It sort of proves that the amount we spent was nowhere near enough, even though everyone thought we'd broke the bank

I read something by Alardarse - he suggested the the starting point for a basic PL players was in excess of £35m and that drafting in too many players was counterproductive - I'm not a fan of his but it did make sense and it remains to be seen if the Villains are making the same mistake as we did

Hopefully (not sure that I'm too hopeful) we can assemble a squad that will be the basis of a PL team if we're promoted next May
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on August 02, 2019, 04:29:50 PM
Preston sighning of Tom bayliss today.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 04:32:18 PM
Didn't we have the chance to buy him from
Sheff utd once upon a time?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 02, 2019, 04:57:01 PM
Quote from: twang on August 02, 2019, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK

Selling their top scorer and best CB. Strange business.

Bailey Peacock-Farrell gone to Burnley now as well. Could this perhaps mean that they have the cash to bring in Gayle?

The issue isn't the transfer fee, never has been, its the Prem contract and EPL wages he demands so I doubt anyone will get him unless they're going hell for leather, breaching FFP and gambling that they go up.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 05:35:10 PM
Well I suppose nothing will happen over this weekend.
So we got 5 days next week and that's it.
I think Parker is going with the centre backs we already have.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: brightster on August 02, 2019, 05:40:49 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: brightster on August 02, 2019, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.

Has never played for Arsenal, was on loan at Charlton last year, 10million for a player who is 21 and has only played 41 senior (Birmingham 10 Charlton 31) games in 2 years, thank god we didn't go for him! 
What with the Bristol City CB going to Brighton for 20 million the money is well out of hand for these players.
Quote from: brightster on August 02, 2019, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.

Has never played for Arsenal, was on loan at Charlton last year, 10million for a player who is 21 and has only played 41 senior (Birmingham 10 Charlton 31) games in 2 years, thank god we didn't go for him! 
What with the Bristol City CB going to Brighton for 20 million the money is well out of hand for these players.

21 and a top prospect.
Was backbone of Charlton promotion side.
In today's prices I'd say what they paid about right.

Agree he is a prospect but If he was that good surely Arsenal would have sent him on loan again. Only time will tell, just think we need someone with more games under their belt for that price.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rock on August 02, 2019, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 05:35:10 PM
Well I suppose nothing will happen over this weekend.
So we got 5 days next week and that's it.
I think Parker is going with the centre backs we already have.

Lets hope we don't lose 3-0 with 70% possession oh but if it weren't for those 3 back wayward passes! This messageboard will blow up if so.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on August 02, 2019, 05:44:15 PM
I really rate Bielik! would have loved him .. Maybe not at that price but in today's market if he does well they could easily sell him for more - and I think he will
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 02, 2019, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647

I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi. 
thank God you are not in charge of our transfers then, he is a fantastic centre back

Very good centre back but they've massively overpaid.
everyone seems to be massively over paying at the moment. Apart from when we sell players that is
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 02, 2019, 06:10:11 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 02, 2019, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647

I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi. 
thank God you are not in charge of our transfers then, he is a fantastic centre back

Very good centre back but they've massively overpaid.
everyone seems to be massively over paying at the moment. Apart from when we sell players that is

Remind me who we have sold this window.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ealex40 on August 02, 2019, 06:39:35 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 05:35:10 PM
Well I suppose nothing will happen over this weekend.
So we got 5 days next week and that's it.
I think Parker is going with the centre backs we already have.

Window closes at 5pm on Thursday, August 8, so 4 days next week, to sign a few?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on August 02, 2019, 06:45:26 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 06:10:11 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 02, 2019, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647

I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi. 
thank God you are not in charge of our transfers then, he is a fantastic centre back

Very good centre back but they've massively overpaid.
everyone seems to be massively over paying at the moment. Apart from when we sell players that is

Remind me who we have sold this window.
I think Ben is talking about the fact that we seem a soft touch in a few cases!
For example, spuds waiting until the last minute, as per usual, to get a sale price!
In this years case- Sess..... we want 40ish mill and they are only prepared to offer 15-20, apparently!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 06:48:08 PM
Given what people on here keep arguing, anything more than £10 million for Sess would be them massively overpaying.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 02, 2019, 06:49:33 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 06:48:08 PM
Given what people on here keep arguing, anything more than £10 million for Sess would be them massively overpaying.

I couldn't find one quote from anyone suggesting hes not worth at least 10m. Calling BS.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 02, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7315605/Tottenham-close-30m-capture-Fulham-defender-Sessegnon-talks-continue-Fernandes.html
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 08:05:16 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 02, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7315605/Tottenham-close-30m-capture-Fulham-defender-Sessegnon-talks-continue-Fernandes.html
got to feel sorry for spurs if they sign sessignion for 30 million, if they think he is a defender.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 02, 2019, 08:05:39 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 02, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7315605/Tottenham-close-30m-capture-Fulham-defender-Sessegnon-talks-continue-Fernandes.html

Even we haven't paid that much for an injured player
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 02, 2019, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 02, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7315605/Tottenham-close-30m-capture-Fulham-defender-Sessegnon-talks-continue-Fernandes.html

Only half the story as per usual from the Mail. Sess is not featuring as he is recovering from an injury & not pending a transfer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 02, 2019, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 02, 2019, 06:45:26 PM
I think Ben is talking about the fact that we seem a soft touch in a few cases!
For example, spuds waiting until the last minute, as per usual, to get a sale price!
In this years case- Sess..... we want 40ish mill and they are only prepared to offer 15-20, apparently!

Wouldn't it be better to use an actual example of us being a soft touch, rather than one that is as far as we know just made up?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 02, 2019, 10:58:12 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 02, 2019, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 02, 2019, 06:45:26 PM
I think Ben is talking about the fact that we seem a soft touch in a few cases!
For example, spuds waiting until the last minute, as per usual, to get a sale price!
In this years case- Sess..... we want 40ish mill and they are only prepared to offer 15-20, apparently!

Wouldn't it be better to use an actual example of us being a soft touch, rather than one that is as far as we know just made up?

Well we've hardly got great deals for the players that have left so far, Anguissa and Seri. Allowing for inflation, we should probably have got £25m-£30m for each of them. We've got nothing at this stage (except maybe small loan fees) and whilst we don't know what fees they'll eventually go for, I don't believe either of the clubs they've gone to has ever paid £20m for a player.

Of course there's an argument that we've loaned them with the intention of bringing them back in a year or two, but I don't believe that's true, or if it is true, it would be another massive error IMO. This season, they had their chance to get exactly what they needed, more experience of the English league, and either we or they have turned down that opportunity. The idea that if we do go back up, we'll repeat exactly the same mistakes as last time by bringing those two back, seems absurd to me.

I expect both will be sold for fees around their book value, £15-20m, which from an accounting perspective at least mitigates any further damage, but it's not good business overall.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Number Six on August 02, 2019, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.

Would bite their hands off.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 02, 2019, 11:45:06 PM
I'm still curious what's in Manchester United's plans for Axel Tuanzebe...and what are his plans for his future at United.

Maguire
Lindeloff
Smalling
Jones


Tuanzebe can even play at RB....decent size.    There are better CBs out there...but maybe United would feel they owe us for Fosu Mensah and would do a loan with option to buy...hoping.


Anyway...who didn't already know Scott Parker wanted to keep Ryan.     The hammy pull was a blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on August 03, 2019, 03:27:52 AM
Quote from: Number Six on August 02, 2019, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.

Would bite their hands off.

Get the cheque book out right now Tony!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 03, 2019, 03:59:59 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.

No worries let's go for it, could solve more than one problem,
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 03, 2019, 09:14:50 AM
Chambers knows us, worked with SP, would fill more than one crucial position. Bite their hands off TK. Even if it is a loan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on August 03, 2019, 09:46:58 AM
https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-fulham-midfielder-in-advanced-talks-to-join-efl-club-permanently/

Edun to join the garden of Shrewsbury
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on August 03, 2019, 10:11:35 AM
if Chambers is available and happy to come, we should make him the number 1 priority signing. I would pay up to 25m for him so at that price its a no brainer
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on August 03, 2019, 10:18:48 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 02, 2019, 11:45:06 PM
I'm still curious what's in Manchester United's plans for Axel Tuanzebe...and what are his plans for his future at United.

Maguire
Lindeloff
Smalling
Jones


Tuanzebe can even play at RB....decent size.    There are better CBs out there...but maybe United would feel they owe us for Fosu Mensah and would do a loan with option to buy...hoping.


Anyway...who didn't already know Scott Parker wanted to keep Ryan.     The hammy pull was a blessing in disguise.
United paid us £12m for Smalling and have had 9 years service from him, perhaps they could return him free of charge.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2019, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.







Sadly I dont think that's true. Apparently hes played more minutes than any other player in pre-season friendlies. A lot of Arsenal fans think it's a big season for him, & Emery sees him as midfield & defensive cover
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on August 03, 2019, 12:23:57 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2019, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.







Sadly I dont think that's true. Apparently hes played more minutes than any other player in pre-season friendlies. A lot of Arsenal fans think it's a big season for him, & Emery sees him as midfield & defensive cover
Last season Chambers made it clear that his ambition for this season was to secure a place in the Arsenal first team. I think we can forget all about him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 03, 2019, 12:32:37 PM
Fulhams Tayo Edun in advanced talks to join Shrewsbury.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on August 03, 2019, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 03, 2019, 12:32:37 PM
Fulhams Tayo Edun in advanced talks to join Shrewsbury.

He didn't do much at Ipswich last season - although under difficult circumstances and an eye injury I believe.

He also went on trial with a team in the States.

Good luck to him, time for him to push on.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on August 03, 2019, 12:37:44 PM
Edun's development really seemed to stagnate. Good luck to him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on August 03, 2019, 03:00:58 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 02, 2019, 11:45:06 PM
I'm still curious what's in Manchester United's plans for Axel Tuanzebe...and what are his plans for his future at United.

Maguire
Lindeloff
Smalling
Jones


Tuanzebe can even play at RB....decent size.    There are better CBs out there...but maybe United would feel they owe us for Fosu Mensah and would do a loan with option to buy...hoping.


Anyway...who didn't already know Scott Parker wanted to keep Ryan.     The hammy pull was a blessing in disguise.

Would have him in a heartbeat, but I fear he would only go out on loan, if at all.

He would appear to be the future of Utd's defense. They had a problem in that he is too young to lead from CB. So they'e been after a leader at the back for a few seasons now and have finally found it in McQuire. So I would expect Tauanzebe to fit in along side and that's them sorted for a few years to come.
Shame as he has great potential.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 03, 2019, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 03, 2019, 03:00:58 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 02, 2019, 11:45:06 PM
I'm still curious what's in Manchester United's plans for Axel Tuanzebe...and what are his plans for his future at United.

Maguire
Lindeloff
Smalling
Jones


Tuanzebe can even play at RB....decent size.    There are better CBs out there...but maybe United would feel they owe us for Fosu Mensah and would do a loan with option to buy...hoping.


Anyway...who didn't already know Scott Parker wanted to keep Ryan.     The hammy pull was a blessing in disguise.

Would have him in a heartbeat, but I fear he would only go out on loan, if at all.

He would appear to be the future of Utd's defense. They had a problem in that he is too young to lead from CB. So they'e been after a leader at the back for a few seasons now and have finally found it in McQuire. So I would expect Tauanzebe to fit in along side and that's them sorted for a few years to come.
Shame as he has great potential.

Lindelof was Uniteds best CB last season and he's young.   Even if Tuanzebe is in their plans it won't be this year.   At most he's going to see 10 games TOTAL...as a starter and coming off the bench.   

I'd take Tuanzebe at right CB or RB over Odoi.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on August 03, 2019, 03:18:21 PM
As i say tho, it would only be a loan.
They wont sell him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 03, 2019, 10:42:45 PM
Anyone remember the name of the African CB we almost got over the line on deadline day last january?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 03, 2019, 10:44:33 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 03, 2019, 10:42:45 PM
Anyone remember the name of the African CB we almost got over the line on deadline day last january?


Youssouf Sabaly. A rb that can play lb. Saw him in the ACN and he looked very good. He'll not come here now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 03, 2019, 10:47:18 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 03, 2019, 10:44:33 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 03, 2019, 10:42:45 PM
Anyone remember the name of the African CB we almost got over the line on deadline day last january?


Youssouf Sabaly. A rb that can play lb. Saw him in the ACN and he looked very good. He'll not come here now.


Thanks.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 03, 2019, 11:05:06 PM
This is the guy:

https://www.transfermarkt.com/michael-ngadeu-ngadjui/profil/spieler/227239

On deadline day:

'Michael Ngadeu-Ngadjui remains in Slavia! The club agreed on terms of his transfer to @FulhamFC yesterday, but his move on #DeadlineDay wasn't finalized. What a great news for @EuropaLeague spring part'
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 03, 2019, 11:06:40 PM
Do you mean ngudu ngudu big guy playing in Russia or the Chech league that came over but never finalised?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 03, 2019, 11:12:03 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 03, 2019, 11:06:40 PM
Do you mean ngudu ngudu big guy playing in Russia or the Chech league that came over but never finalised?

Yes, Cameroonian professional footballer who plays for Belgian club Gent and captains the Cameroon national team.

Tall and strong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on August 03, 2019, 11:12:25 PM
Ngadeu-Ngadjui signed for Gent this summer. Was looking at Belgian League Centre-Backs, would take any from Brandon Mechele, Dylan Bronn, Sebastien Dewaest.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on August 03, 2019, 11:15:54 PM
Think age has to be a big factor in any signings we make in this next week. Midfield three especially just looked slow and the Average Age of the Starting XI was pretty much 28. Not quite end of the Martin Jol era, but we need to get some younger players in. Think today showed it isn't as simple as "getting the band back together" with the Midfield three when McDonald could barely move. Need to get some of that hunger we had in our promotion season back. Concern with the Midfield three especially is they'll have a sort of "been there done that" complacency.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rock on August 03, 2019, 11:36:05 PM
This whole 111 pages of thread assume would or could recruit. Pointless.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rock on August 03, 2019, 11:37:20 PM
Fine 112.

Recruitment.

To quote the elephant in the room, and the board, "think on."
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 04, 2019, 09:20:15 AM
RODGERS EYES AGER SWOOP

Leicester boss Brendan Rodgers is planning a surprise £15m swoop for Celtic defender Kristoffer Ajer, according to the Star.

The pair worked together in Rodgers' previous managerial role as he looks for replacements for Harry Maguire.


That's this one off the list if true


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on August 04, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
I think we need a new left back, a new right back, a new center half and a tireless defensive mid.


What do you think we need?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 04, 2019, 11:25:36 AM
Quote from: absenteeism on August 04, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
I think we need a new left back, a new right back, a new center half and a tireless defensive mid.


What do you think we need?

We are ok for LB. We need a commanding CB, a mobile DMF & a quick box to box CMF to link up with an advanced position Cairney. Will we get what we have needed for the last 2 seasons? Don´t hold your breath. If we end up with anything less this Forum will explode.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on August 04, 2019, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: absenteeism on August 04, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
I think we need a new left back, a new right back, a new center half and a tireless defensive mid.


What do you think we need?
Well we are not going to get four new quality players in the next four days, based on yesterday's performance we need a goal poacher as not scoring a single goal is a major problem especially when Mitrovic is not looking good.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on August 04, 2019, 11:32:27 AM
I can see Harry Arter coming in for the midfield spot
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 04, 2019, 11:39:28 AM
Chris Wise (@chriswisey)
8/4/19, 6:30 AM
Understand Harry Arter is very close to joining Fulham. Medical complete. Season-long loan deal agreed with Bournemouth. Move will become permanent if Fulham are promoted back to the PL. Arter's brother-in-law Scott Parker has been keen to do the deal all summer. #afcb #ffc
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rvFFC on August 04, 2019, 11:56:05 AM
I'm not too keen on Arter on a potential permanent, it doesn't really solve the issue of an already ageing midfield. Although should be a good signing for the championship.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on August 04, 2019, 12:59:14 PM
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2019/08/fulham-in-battle-for-carter-vickers/

Fulham are among a clutch of Championship clubs chasing Tottenham defender Cameron Carter-Vickers, according to a report this morning.

Spurs are ready to allow the American centre back, who has had loan spells with Sheffield United, Ipswich Town and Swansea City over the past three years, to leave White Hart Lane on loan again to gain further first-team football. Fulham are eager to add to their defensive options after Alfie Mawson's injury scare last week and yesterday's disappointing defeat on the opening day at Barnsley.

Scott Parker will face stiff competition in trying to bring in the centre half from Tottenham, where he spent a season coaching their under-18 side. Leeds, West Brom, Derby, Middlesbrough, Luton and Barnsley are reportedly all interested in bringing in Carter-Vickers, who made 30 appearances for Swansea last season in the Championship.

The 21 year-old, who has won eight international caps for the United States, has made four first-team appearances for Spurs, all of which came in domestic Cup competitions.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riverside on August 04, 2019, 01:03:45 PM
Harry Arter - more attacking or defensive ?


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 04, 2019, 01:06:53 PM
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/17814919.amp/?ref=twtrec&__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF

We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF

We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.

But if we don't go back up then we will not exercise the option. The loans go back and so we are into another rebuilding and more upheaval. This club needs some stability and consistency. The recruitment policy does not provide it. Little wonder yesterday was such a shambles
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 04, 2019, 01:43:21 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on August 04, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
I think we need a new left back, a new right back, a new center half and a tireless defensive mid.


What do you think we need?

Why new left back? Bryan was our best player yesterday.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:54:26 PM
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF

We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.

But if we don't go back up then we will not exercise the option. The loans go back and so we are into another rebuilding and more upheaval. This club needs some stability and consistency. The recruitment policy does not provide it. Little wonder yesterday was such a shambles

If we don't go up, it's because the management has been poor.

Yesterday was a shambles because of Parker, not because of the recruitment policy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 04, 2019, 01:59:13 PM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9651312/bournemouth-fulham-harry-arter-loan/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 04, 2019, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:54:26 PM
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF

We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.

But if we don't go back up then we will not exercise the option. The loans go back and so we are into another rebuilding and more upheaval. This club needs some stability and consistency. The recruitment policy does not provide it. Little wonder yesterday was such a shambles

If we don't go up, it's because the management has been poor.

Yesterday was a shambles because of Parker, not because of the recruitment policy.

So who would you have played to prevent the "shambles"? What would you have done differently? For me SP having to play McDonald & Johansen as he didn´t have anyone else for these positions. That is not Parkers fault.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SG on August 04, 2019, 02:19:41 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:54:26 PM
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF

We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.

But if we don't go back up then we will not exercise the option. The loans go back and so we are into another rebuilding and more upheaval. This club needs some stability and consistency. The recruitment policy does not provide it. Little wonder yesterday was such a shambles

If we don't go up, it's because the management has been poor.

Yesterday was a shambles because of Parker, not because of the recruitment policy.

That is debatable but as this is a transfer thread I won't
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 04, 2019, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:54:26 PM
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF

We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.

But if we don't go back up then we will not exercise the option. The loans go back and so we are into another rebuilding and more upheaval. This club needs some stability and consistency. The recruitment policy does not provide it. Little wonder yesterday was such a shambles

If we don't go up, it's because the management has been poor.

Yesterday was a shambles because of Parker, not because of the recruitment policy.

So who would you have played to prevent the "shambles"? What would you have done differently? For me SP having to play McDonald & Johansen as he didn´t have anyone else for these positions. That is not Parkers fault.

The midfield 3 wasn't effective, so he takes off 1 to make it even harder.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 04, 2019, 03:08:06 PM
Tom Barclay (@TomBarclay_)
8/4/19, 10:01 AM
Harry Arter has finished his medical at Fulham and is expected to sign tomorrow. It'll be a loan which will turn permanent if #ffc are promoted #afcb
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: WolverineFFC on August 04, 2019, 11:55:01 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 04, 2019, 12:59:14 PM
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2019/08/fulham-in-battle-for-carter-vickers/

Fulham are among a clutch of Championship clubs chasing Tottenham defender Cameron Carter-Vickers, according to a report this morning.

Spurs are ready to allow the American centre back, who has had loan spells with Sheffield United, Ipswich Town and Swansea City over the past three years, to leave White Hart Lane on loan again to gain further first-team football. Fulham are eager to add to their defensive options after Alfie Mawson's injury scare last week and yesterday's disappointing defeat on the opening day at Barnsley.

Scott Parker will face stiff competition in trying to bring in the centre half from Tottenham, where he spent a season coaching their under-18 side. Leeds, West Brom, Derby, Middlesbrough, Luton and Barnsley are reportedly all interested in bringing in Carter-Vickers, who made 30 appearances for Swansea last season in the Championship.

The 21 year-old, who has won eight international caps for the United States, has made four first-team appearances for Spurs, all of which came in domestic Cup competitions.

Yes, please.

CCV is the guy the club should be trying to pry away from Spurs in the potential Sess deal, not Onomah or the other winger. A strong, composed RCB who at 21 y/o already has 2 Championship seasons to his resume. He is not likely going to be a top 6 level CB in England, but could develop into a Premier level CB in time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.

This according to The Daily Mail this morning
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.

This according to The Daily Mail this morning

We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on August 05, 2019, 01:14:49 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.

This according to The Daily Mail this morning

We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.

Free set of steak knives.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 05, 2019, 01:47:25 AM
Spurs are going to take a player recovering from a hamstring injury without watching his performance?

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 01:55:18 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 05, 2019, 01:47:25 AM
Spurs are going to take a player recovering from a hamstring injury without watching his performance?

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Yeah but they've watched him for 3 years
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on August 05, 2019, 02:55:53 AM
Trent Sainsbury.  Struggling for game time at PSV and word is they want to loan him out.  Just the sort of tough CB we need.  Australia's best player in the 2018 world cup.  Would be useful. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 03:09:55 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.

This according to The Daily Mail this morning

We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.

Such as ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 05, 2019, 03:28:35 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 03:09:55 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.

This according to The Daily Mail this morning

We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.

Such as ?

And how many players better than Onomah are born after Tom Cairney 20th Jan 1991?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 07:12:06 AM
Loan Loan Loan......Get the bleedin chequebook out and get a top centre back....😠
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on August 05, 2019, 07:32:25 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 07:12:06 AM
Loan Loan Loan......Get the bleedin chequebook out and get a top centre back....😠

Do you know how much we are paying Cavaleiro and Knockaert a week?
Two of the highest paid players in the league I'm sure and I suspect Arter will be aswell .. Harsh to complain were not spending anything
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 08:14:12 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 05, 2019, 07:32:25 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 07:12:06 AM
Loan Loan Loan......Get the bleedin chequebook out and get a top centre back....😠

Do you know how much we are paying Cavaleiro and Knockaert a week?
Two of the highest paid players in the league I'm sure and I suspect Arter will be aswell .. Harsh to complain were not spending anything
[/quote

Every player gets paid.
We need a proper centre back...NOW
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:28:41 AM
First new link of the day is Daniel Amartey. Sheff Utd also pursuing him. Can play CM, CB and RB. Think of a Fosu-Mensah type player.

https://t.co/MeZIv1JzqR
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 05, 2019, 08:30:32 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:28:41 AM
First new link of the day is Danierl Amartey. Sheff Utd also pursuing him. Can play CM, CB and RB. Think of a Fosu-Mensah type player.

Surprised at this, thought he looked a sharp player for Leicester. Wouldn't mind this at all.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: N_O_W_S on August 05, 2019, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 08:14:12 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 05, 2019, 07:32:25 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 07:12:06 AM
Loan Loan Loan......Get the bleedin chequebook out and get a top centre back....😠

Do you know how much we are paying Cavaleiro and Knockaert a week?
Two of the highest paid players in the league I'm sure and I suspect Arter will be aswell .. Harsh to complain were not spending anything
[/quote

Every player gets paid.
We need a proper centre back...NOW

I've got no problem with loans to buy. Its the best for the club to try before spending big bucks further down the line.

Loans without an option i do have a problem with.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 05, 2019, 09:16:02 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.

This according to The Daily Mail this morning

I guess we should be happy that I don't got Tony Khan's job, but sometimes I wonder if I could give him a advice or two :D

It should be possible to get a CB from Spurs if we sell Sess? Not another MF?

It's like you go to your doctor after you lost your left leg in a motorcycle accident, and he offer you a new arm. And you answer "yes please".
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 05, 2019, 09:42:35 AM
OM want Fulham's Ryan Sessegnon according to La Provence
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 05, 2019, 09:42:35 AM
OM want Fulham's Ryan Sessegnon according to La Provence
There probably wouldn't be a fee involved if that is the case.

We would just wipe out the debt we owe them for Anguissa
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 09:57:40 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 05, 2019, 09:42:35 AM
OM want Fulham's Ryan Sessegnon according to La Provence

He'll never get in Orchestral Manoeuvres they are a two piece side.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 10:16:14 AM
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 05, 2019, 09:42:35 AM
OM want Fulham's Ryan Sessegnon according to La Provence
There probably wouldn't be a fee involved if that is the case.

We would just wipe out the debt we owe them for Anguissa

I expect the Tottenham deal to have already been agreed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 03:09:55 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.

This according to The Daily Mail this morning

We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.

Such as ?

Onomah is either an attacking midfielder or a winger, he's pants any deeper.

Cairney, de la torre, johansen, kebano, ayite, cavaliero, Knockaert, O'reilly are all easily better players.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 05, 2019, 10:30:30 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 03:09:55 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.

This according to The Daily Mail this morning

We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.

Such as ?

Onomah is either an attacking midfielder or a winger, he's pants any deeper.

Cairney, de la torre, johansen, kebano, ayite, cavaliero, Knockaert, O'reilly are all easily better players.

We don´t need their cast offs in positions we are well covered.. I am sure Levy has a CB , RB, CDM, Box to Box MF plus £30 mil
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 05, 2019, 10:33:22 AM
Of all the potential talent Spurs have to offer, if less than 20m and Onomah for our hugely talented youngster would be seriously deflating....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 10:38:32 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 03:09:55 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.

This according to The Daily Mail this morning

We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.

Such as ?

Onomah is either an attacking midfielder or a winger, he's pants any deeper.

Cairney, de la torre, johansen, kebano, ayite, cavaliero, Knockaert, O'reilly are all easily better players.



Onomah would surely come in as cover for Cairney. And as we currently don't have natural cover for him, it can't hurt to add him to the squad.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 05, 2019, 11:31:44 AM
Might consider Andy Carroll on a pay per game deal as he is on a free.He would have to pay his medical treatments though. Bit of competition for Mitro.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jem on August 05, 2019, 11:54:44 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 05, 2019, 11:31:44 AM
Might consider Andy Carroll on a pay per game deal as he is on a free.He would have to pay his medical treatments though. Bit of competition for Mitro.
He would be running at a loss at that rate!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS

Tottenham are in talks with Fulham over the signing of Ryan Sessegnon, according to Sky sources.

We understand all parties are hopeful a deal can be completed ahead of Deadline Day.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS

Tottenham are in talks with Fulham over the signing of Ryan Sessegnon, according to Sky sources.

We understand all parties are hopeful a deal can be completed ahead of Deadline Day.

haha. 'Breaking news'
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:05:08 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS

Tottenham are in talks with Fulham over the signing of Ryan Sessegnon, according to Sky sources.

We understand all parties are hopeful a deal can be completed ahead of Deadline Day.

haha. 'Breaking news'

haha yeah I know we ave known this for a long time, but it just appeared on sky transfer feed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
 049:gif

Signing today apparently  :dft012:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 05, 2019, 01:11:17 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
049:gif

Signing today apparently  :dft012:

Wonder who it could be...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on August 05, 2019, 01:28:06 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS

Tottenham are in talks with Fulham over the signing of Ryan Sessegnon, according to Sky sources.

We understand all parties are hopeful a deal can be completed ahead of Deadline Day.

haha. 'Breaking news'

Haha! The news broke two years ago!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 05, 2019, 01:37:16 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
049:gif

Signing today apparently  :dft012:

Arter?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 05, 2019, 01:43:38 PM
Can Arter play as GK, RB, CB, DMF & any where else?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 01:44:43 PM
Quote from: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:05:08 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS

Tottenham are in talks with Fulham over the signing of Ryan Sessegnon, according to Sky sources.

We understand all parties are hopeful a deal can be completed ahead of Deadline Day.

haha. 'Breaking news'

haha yeah I know we ave known this for a long time, but it just appeared on sky transfer feed

That wasnt a dig at you btw, just funny how Sky say its breaking news so they have something to report
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Scott McKenna has handed in a transfer request at Aberdeen..... Stoke,QPR ready to bid apparently.
He's a Centre Back.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Scott McKenna has handed in a transfer request at Aberdeen..... Stoke,QPR ready to bid apparently.
He's a Centre Back.

Any good?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St Eve on August 05, 2019, 02:57:09 PM
Sess probably made his mind up after watching the Barnsley game.

Of course as soon as he plays for Spurs he will get a full England call up
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Scott McKenna has handed in a transfer request at Aberdeen..... Stoke,QPR ready to bid apparently.
He's a Centre Back.

Any good?

Apparently rated as good as McLeish was in the Fergie Aberdeen side,and he was good...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 05, 2019, 03:31:29 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 05, 2019, 11:31:44 AM
Might consider Andy Carroll on a pay per game deal as he is on a free.He would have to pay his medical treatments though. Bit of competition for Mitro.
i wouldnt mind this tbh, still hoping for other business though
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on August 05, 2019, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Scott McKenna has handed in a transfer request at Aberdeen..... Stoke,QPR ready to bid apparently.
He's a Centre Back.

Any good?

Apparently rated as good as McLeish was in the Fergie Aberdeen side,and he was good...

He is left-footed though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 04:06:44 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Scott McKenna has handed in a transfer request at Aberdeen..... Stoke,QPR ready to bid apparently.
He's a Centre Back.

Any good?

Apparently rated as good as McLeish was in the Fergie Aberdeen side,and he was good...

I first mentioned him on here ages and ages ago, £3 million or possibly £3.5 and we could sign him, at that price it's a no brainer from me.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 05, 2019, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
wasnt they in contention back then though, could have swore they were top of the league, albeit having played more games
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.

The only offers this summer have been for £3 million,  and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5

Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned,  bad news for Fulham if they get him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.

The only offers this summer have been for £3 million,  and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5

Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned,  bad news for Fulham if they get him.

We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra. 
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.


Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 05, 2019, 05:17:40 PM
I still want Tuanzebe on loan with an option to buy if promoted.


He's not getting minutes at United outside of the odd Caraboa Cup.


Maguire
Lindeloff
Smalling
Jones

All four on good/new deals.

United may prefer loaning him out to an EPL squad (Newcastle), but if I were TK I'd be on the phone yesterday inquiring about bring him to London.

He can play both CB and RB.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.

The only offers this summer have been for £3 million,  and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5

Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned,  bad news for Fulham if they get him.

Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.

The only offers this summer have been for £3 million,  and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5

Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned,  bad news for Fulham if they get him.

He signed contract extension in March to 2023.
So no way will they let him move for under 7 million I believe.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
049:gif

Signing today apparently  :dft012:

Tricker from Watfrod signs


http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/august/05/tricker-signs
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bencher on August 05, 2019, 06:03:53 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
049:gif

Signing today apparently  :dft012:

Tricker from Watfrod signs


http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/august/05/tricker-signs

A CB!

In other news of trialists, I hear Jamie O'Hara may also be available
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 05, 2019, 06:53:34 PM
Tom Crocker (@TomCrockerEcho)
8/5/19, 12:54 PM
Final details of Harry Arter's loan move to Fulham dragging on a little bit but should still all be concluded soon. In terms of incomings, Cherries one of a number of clubs interested in Liverpool's Harry Wilson, but nothing imminent. #afcb

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on August 05, 2019, 06:54:16 PM
Does anybody know when arter will be announced? Only asking so we can get this one out of the way so we can then announce a new CB
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on August 05, 2019, 07:09:25 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.

The only offers this summer have been for £3 million,  and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5

Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned,  bad news for Fulham if they get him.

We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra. 
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.


Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.
It seems as if Spurs have us over a barrel regarding Sess, are there no other interested clubs we can strike a deal with rather than wait for Spurs.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 05, 2019, 07:10:14 PM
Linked with Daniel Armaty on a few dodgy lookin twitter posts
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 07:29:00 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 05, 2019, 07:10:14 PM
Linked with Daniel Armaty on a few dodgy lookin twitter posts


Broke his ankle last November.
If he still crocked we'll definitely be interested.😉
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 05, 2019, 07:50:14 PM
This is when it really gets exciting. At last in the last few days of transfer window we can look forward to players being linked, not happening, a few youth signings. Players going out with no replacements. Then afterwards all the rumours of why we were so close to bringing in the players but the chain fell through at the last minute.

115 pages and counting and thank God it will soon be over.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 05, 2019, 07:53:03 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.

The only offers this summer have been for £3 million,  and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5

Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned,  bad news for Fulham if they get him.

We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra. 
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.


Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.

If that's all their offering we should keep him. If he leaves on a free we'll get compensation and should be a good fee.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on August 05, 2019, 08:08:08 PM
I wonder does Palace signing cahill free up dann for us
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on August 05, 2019, 08:12:46 PM
Has the Arter deal brokendown? All gone quiet
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on August 05, 2019, 08:18:10 PM
Told you all Levy will get Sess for buttons.
Probably about £10m.

We are a joke club to all.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 05, 2019, 08:21:03 PM
So, do either Skatz or Statto have any source on that we're giving away Sess for free, or is it just general doom mongering?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 05, 2019, 08:23:39 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 05, 2019, 07:53:03 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.

The only offers this summer have been for £3 million,  and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5

Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned,  bad news for Fulham if they get him.

We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra. 
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.


Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.

If that's all their offering we should keep him. If he leaves on a free we'll get compensation and should be a good fee.

But if some on here are to be believed, keeping Sessegnon will mean no more signings this window
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on August 05, 2019, 08:28:00 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 05, 2019, 08:18:10 PM
Told you all Levy will get Sess for buttons.
Probably about £10m.

We are a joke club to all.

We would get circa 10 million via tribunal in a year if we kept him this year. Today's reports seem to range between 20 and 30 mil with Onomah chucked in.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 05, 2019, 08:18:10 PM
Told you all Levy will get Sess for buttons.
Probably about £10m.

We are a joke club to all.


That is just fiction.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.

The only offers this summer have been for £3 million,  and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5

Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned,  bad news for Fulham if they get him.

We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra. 
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.


Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.

Been reported absolutely nowhere that fee.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on August 05, 2019, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.

The only offers this summer have been for £3 million,  and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5

Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned,  bad news for Fulham if they get him.

We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra. 
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.


Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.

Been reported absolutely nowhere that fee.

Exactly
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 09:09:43 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on August 05, 2019, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.

The only offers this summer have been for £3 million,  and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5

Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned,  bad news for Fulham if they get him.

We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra. 
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.


Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.

Been reported absolutely nowhere that fee.

Exactly

I hate it when people try and say things with conviction to make it a fact.

On another note. Shame Arter wasnt announced today. It would be good to have him start on Saturday.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 05, 2019, 10:07:45 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 09:09:43 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on August 05, 2019, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:40:16 PM
Been reported absolutely nowhere that fee.

Exactly

I hate it when people try and say things with conviction to make it a fact.

Just a few CFRs:

1. I didn't intend to assert that Spurs have offered £13m for Sessegnon, or for that matter that we're in for Chema, that he'll cost £8m, that our rivals will sign McKenna or Kent, or that either of those players are any good anyway. I was just using a hypothetical fact pattern (plus a bit of hyperbole and sarcasm) to make the point that if it's true that we can't/won't buy a CB until the Sessegnon sale completes, that probably means we're letting a protracted haggle over a relatively small amount of money (again, I should clarify that I don't know the exact amount is indeed £200k) delay up the CB signing. Apologies if that wasn't clear.

2. FWIW something being "reported" doesn't make it true anyway.

3. Even if it is true, as reported, that Spurs are paying £20m or £30m for Sessegnon, it doesn't mean that sum is payable immediately or unconditionally. Since most of Sessegnon's value is derived from his potential, rather than current ability, it seems highly likely to me that a large component of his fee will be payable in the relatively distant future if/when he achieves certain career milestones.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MrFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
If we reached Thursday & our business was

In

Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Cameron Carter-Vickers

Out

Ryan Sessegnon
Fabri

Would fans look at that as a success?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on August 06, 2019, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 05, 2019, 05:17:40 PM
I still want Tuanzebe on loan with an option to buy if promoted.


He's not getting minutes at United outside of the odd Caraboa Cup.


Maguire
Lindeloff
Smalling
Jones

All four on good/new deals.

United may prefer loaning him out to an EPL squad (Newcastle), but if I were TK I'd be on the phone yesterday inquiring about bring him to London.

He can play both CB and RB.


Would be cool to bring Smalling back to the club. Not possible, I guess, but would be cool.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 06, 2019, 01:25:24 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
If we reached Thursday & our business was

In

Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Cameron Carter-Vickers

Out

Ryan Sessegnon
Fabri

Would fans look at that as a success?

No, because it would still mean Christie at right back.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St Eve on August 06, 2019, 01:54:36 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
If we reached Thursday & our business was

In

Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Cameron Carter-Vickers

Out

Ryan Sessegnon
Fabri

Would fans look at that as a success?
No. not even close
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on August 06, 2019, 02:20:36 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
If we reached Thursday & our business was

In

Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Cameron Carter-Vickers

Out

Ryan Sessegnon
Fabri

Would fans look at that as a success?

No. Arter will be good competition for Johansen, but Onomah is at best back-up for Cairney (when we already have O'Riley unless we've given up on him and his agent and I personally see Fonte as a #10) and Carter-Vickers is pretty inconsistent (which isn't an indictment on him as he's only 21) so I'm not sure he'd even be an upgrade for us. Haven't replaced McDonald who was probably the worst player on the pitch on Saturday. Needs to be some clarity over Steven Sessegnon and whether or not he's going to have a significant role this season before I ask for a Right-Back.

Based on the links I'd hope we end up with;
Michael Hector for Centre-Back
Harry Arter for the Johansen competition/replacement

I'd be looking abroad for the McDonald replacement and potential Right-Back signing. My personal choices would be Falaye Sacko for Right-Back (if we want one) and Uros Racic for defensive-mid. Can't see them costing anything more than 6-7m combined and at 24 and 21 respectively they'd offer us some long-term value and have room to grow and increase in value. Everything is looking very short-term at the moment, and we looked like an old team on Saturday.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on August 06, 2019, 05:36:32 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
If we reached Thursday & our business was

In

Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Cameron Carter-Vickers

Out

Ryan Sessegnon
Fabri

Would fans look at that as a success?

No. Wrong choice of personnel in some wrong positions.  Our transfer business needs to be planned around a defined footballing strategy and suited specifically to where we need to strengthen.  Our failure to take such a planned approach is a lot of what has gone wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 06:13:32 AM
Daniel Schwaab agent in talks.
Never heard of him,think radio has made it up...lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 06, 2019, 06:20:19 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 06:13:32 AM
Daniel Schwaab agent in talks.
Never heard of him,think radio has made it up...lol
Daniel Schwaab leaves PSV at the end of the season
ARTICLE
date: 14-05-2019 16:30
Daniel Schwaab leaves PSV at the end of the season
30-year-old Daniel Schwaab has decided not to renew his contract with PSV as it expires next month. The experienced German centre back has chosen for his family and will return to his native country this summer.

Three seasons, one Eredivisie title
Schwaab will wear a red-and white striped PSV shirt for the last time on Wednesday evening. when PSV play host to Heracles Almelo The German defender joined PSV three seasons ago and soon established himself as a first-team regular in the Philips Stadion. He made over 100 appearances for PSV and won the league title for the first time in his career at the end of the 2017/18 season.

PSV respect choice
"PSV can confirm they respect Daniel Schwaab's choice not to renew his contract. He has chosen to be with his family", said PSV head coach Mark Van Bommel. "Daniel has always been a reliable defender and a good team player. We would have liked to offer him a contract extension but when a player chooses for his family, we should not try and persuade him to stay."
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 06, 2019, 07:39:38 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 06:13:32 AM
Daniel Schwaab agent in talks.
Never heard of him,think radio has made it up...lol

Source? Would be great if we got him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 08:08:49 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 06, 2019, 07:39:38 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 06:13:32 AM
Daniel Schwaab agent in talks.
Never heard of him,think radio has made it up...lol

Source? Would be great if we got him.


Guess.....Talkshi** so I suppose its doodle.
Just looked him up,would be good signing I think.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: We Are Premier League on August 06, 2019, 08:47:25 AM
How about a few Swedes to fill out the Squad?

Roma are trying to offload their Swedish International GK Robin Olsen, on his way on loan to Montpellier...surely we can compete with that?
https://www.transfermarkt.com/robin-olsen/profil/spieler/75458

Back-up Left wing back on a free transfer, Martin Olsson that has spent most of his career in the Championship
https://www.transfermarkt.com/martin-olsson/profil/spieler/38073

John Guidetti as backup Striker, not the best football brain but hard working and built a bit like Mitro. On his way from Alaves on Loan...
https://www.transfermarkt.com/john-guidetti/profil/spieler/98596
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on August 06, 2019, 08:49:09 AM
Quote from: sarnian on August 05, 2019, 08:12:46 PM
Has the Arter deal brokendown? All gone quiet

Been told we are looking at other options but if they breakdown we will confirm arter
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: We Are Premier League on August 06, 2019, 08:52:39 AM
Daniel Amartey sounds like the kind of player we need...

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-join-premier-league-club-in-the-race-to-sign-leicester-player/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 08:54:47 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 06, 2019, 08:49:09 AM
Quote from: sarnian on August 05, 2019, 08:12:46 PM
Has the Arter deal brokendown? All gone quiet

Been told we are looking at other options but if they breakdown we will confirm arter

Is he not waiting to see if a lower prem club
comes in for him?
Its dragging on.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Chutney on August 06, 2019, 08:56:20 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 08:54:47 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 06, 2019, 08:49:09 AM
Quote from: sarnian on August 05, 2019, 08:12:46 PM
Has the Arter deal brokendown? All gone quiet

Been told we are looking at other options but if they breakdown we will confirm arter

Is he not waiting to see if a lower prem club
comes in for him?
Its dragging on.

We are looking at other options before confirming, its all very last minute!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 08:54:47 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 06, 2019, 08:49:09 AM
Quote from: sarnian on August 05, 2019, 08:12:46 PM
Has the Arter deal brokendown? All gone quiet

Been told we are looking at other options but if they breakdown we will confirm arter

Is he not waiting to see if a lower prem club
comes in for him?
Its dragging on.

It could be the lull before the storm, suddenly there is a rush of blood to the head of the head of our crack recruitment unit, and we register everyone else's deadwood. Or the owners son stumbles by good fortune onto a decent player or two, but we could be under starters orders as it has gone very quiet in the bowels of the club, and perhaps there is movement afoot.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.

False yet again.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: We Are Premier League on August 06, 2019, 09:27:43 AM
Not in panic mode yet, still talks about the type of players we need.. (except for a new RB...)

Amartey
Hector
Carter-Vickers
Onomah
Arter

Out please:
Cisse
Sess
Fabri
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.

False yet again.

I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.

False yet again.

I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.

Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 06, 2019, 09:51:08 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.

False yet again.

I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.

Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?

It would be interesting to see how TK succeeds compared to Tompkins Law that is only 40% of transfers breakeven. He wrote a book studying every transfer in the Premier League History.

https://tomkinstimes.com/2014/06/tomkins-law-only-40-of-transfers-succeed/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: colinwhite on August 06, 2019, 09:57:31 AM
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 06, 2019, 08:47:25 AM
How about a few Swedes to fill out the Squad?

Roma are trying to offload their Swedish International GK Robin Olsen, on his way on loan to Montpellier...surely we can compete with that?
https://www.transfermarkt.com/robin-olsen/profil/spieler/75458

Sorry ,none of those would be an upgrade

Back-up Left wing back on a free transfer, Martin Olsson that has spent most of his career in the Championship
https://www.transfermarkt.com/martin-olsson/profil/spieler/38073

John Guidetti as backup Striker, not the best football brain but hard working and built a bit like Mitro. On his way from Alaves on Loan...
https://www.transfermarkt.com/john-guidetti/profil/spieler/98596

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.

False yet again.

I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.

Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?

Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 10:38:11 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.

False yet again.

I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.

Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?

Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.

Obvious two that got us promotion would be Targett and Mitrovic.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bencher on August 06, 2019, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.

False yet again.

I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.

Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?

Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.

Some people on this site really do exaggerate. His record is atrocious? So bad that we got promoted in our last Championship season, and reached the playoffs the year before. Here are some (not all) successful transfers, others may yet prove successful (e.g. Bryan, Mawson):

Scott Malone
Sone Aluko
Tomas Kalas
Stefan Johansen
Kevin McDonald
Floyd Ayite
Lucas Piazon
Matt Targett
Aleksander Mitrovic
Calum Chambers

Too early to judge Cavaleiro or Knockaert of course.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:18:13 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2019, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.

False yet again.

I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.

Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?

Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.

Some people on this site really do exaggerate. His record is atrocious? So bad that we got promoted in our last Championship season, and reached the playoffs the year before. Here are some (not all) successful transfers, others may yet prove successful (e.g. Bryan, Mawson):

Scott Malone
Sone Aluko
Tomas Kalas
Stefan Johansen
Kevin McDonald
Floyd Ayite
Lucas Piazon
Matt Targett
Aleksander Mitrovic
Calum Chambers

Too early to judge Cavaleiro or Knockaert of course.

I don't have the time to look up all the dates so please forgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't Malone, Aluko, Johansen, McDonald and Ayite signed before TK was appointed DoF?  I think they were Rigg's signings? Plus Mitro was obviously happening because of Jokanovic.

Then there's of course the others from the previous 2 seasons:

Djalo
Cisse
Fonte
Soares
Graham
Seri
Fabri
Anguissa
Markovic
Schurrle
Fosu-Mensah
Vietto
Nordtveit

All of these were either complete failures or not worth anywhere near what we paid for them IMO.

To be fair there were some decent signings for 2017/18 but most of them were loans. TKs big money signings have all been massive disappointments IMO.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 11:20:13 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:18:13 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2019, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.

False yet again.

I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.

Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?

Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.

Some people on this site really do exaggerate. His record is atrocious? So bad that we got promoted in our last Championship season, and reached the playoffs the year before. Here are some (not all) successful transfers, others may yet prove successful (e.g. Bryan, Mawson):

Scott Malone
Sone Aluko
Tomas Kalas
Stefan Johansen
Kevin McDonald
Floyd Ayite
Lucas Piazon
Matt Targett
Aleksander Mitrovic
Calum Chambers

Too early to judge Cavaleiro or Knockaert of course.

I don't have the time to look up all the dates so please forgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't Malone, Aluko, Johansen, McDonald and Ayite signed before TK was appointed DoF?  I think they were Rigg's signings? Plus Mitro was obviously happening because of Jokanovic.

Then there's of course the others from the previous 2 seasons:

Djalo
Cisse
Fonte
Soares
Graham
Seri
Fabri
Anguissa
Markovic
Schurrle
Fosu-Mensah
Vietto
Nordtveit
Fonte

All of these were either complete failures or not worth anywhere near what we paid for them IMO.

To be fair there were some decent signings for 2017/18 but most of them were loans. TKs big money signings have all been massive disappointments IMO.

The myth that Mitrovic was all about Slav has been debunked so many times now.....he stated it again on his recent podcast so even me, whose critical of TK give him Mitrovic as a success.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on August 06, 2019, 11:24:22 AM
Clearly Fonte is rated so badly by you, you've named him twice!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:26:25 AM
Plus Cairney, Fredericks, Odoi, Ream, Bettinelli, Sess were also signed before TK was appointed DoF.

This means that most of our promotion team was signed before TK was appointed DoF. These players are getting older and fewer so we're getting closer to a 100% TK team every season now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:28:16 AM
Quote from: snarks on August 06, 2019, 11:24:22 AM
Clearly Fonte is rated so badly by you, you've named him twice!!

LOL, yes I think he is a complete waste of space, must have been subconscious. I've edited it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:38:56 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 11:20:13 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:18:13 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2019, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact

Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.

False yet again.

I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.

Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?

Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.

Some people on this site really do exaggerate. His record is atrocious? So bad that we got promoted in our last Championship season, and reached the playoffs the year before. Here are some (not all) successful transfers, others may yet prove successful (e.g. Bryan, Mawson):

Scott Malone
Sone Aluko
Tomas Kalas
Stefan Johansen
Kevin McDonald
Floyd Ayite
Lucas Piazon
Matt Targett
Aleksander Mitrovic
Calum Chambers

Too early to judge Cavaleiro or Knockaert of course.

I don't have the time to look up all the dates so please forgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't Malone, Aluko, Johansen, McDonald and Ayite signed before TK was appointed DoF?  I think they were Rigg's signings? Plus Mitro was obviously happening because of Jokanovic.

Then there's of course the others from the previous 2 seasons:

Djalo
Cisse
Fonte
Soares
Graham
Seri
Fabri
Anguissa
Markovic
Schurrle
Fosu-Mensah
Vietto
Nordtveit
Fonte

All of these were either complete failures or not worth anywhere near what we paid for them IMO.

To be fair there were some decent signings for 2017/18 but most of them were loans. TKs big money signings have all been massive disappointments IMO.

The myth that Mitrovic was all about Slav has been debunked so many times now.....he stated it again on his recent podcast so even me, whose critical of TK give him Mitrovic as a success.

Which podcast are you referring to?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: colinwhite on August 06, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Why are people still having this debate ? Done,dusted and boring .  Odoi was signed byT  Khan at least get your facts right !!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on August 06, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Why are people still having this debate ? Done,dusted and boring .  Odoi was signed byT  Khan at least get your facts right !!

Odoi was signed 14 July 2016
TK was appointed DoF on 23 February 2017
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on August 06, 2019, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on August 06, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Why are people still having this debate ? Done,dusted and boring .  Odoi was signed byT  Khan at least get your facts right !!

Odoi was signed 14 July 2016
TK was appointed DoF on 23 February 2017
Offically, but was running the transfer side of things at the time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham Tup North on August 06, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
That's all very lovely, but are there any transfer rumours to talk about rather than bitching at each other about who signed who! It's getting tedious and quite frankly boring now.
I will be glad when the damn window is shut. 🤪🙏🙏
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:04:03 PM
Carl jenkinson going Forest, RB we could have done with
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 06, 2019, 12:11:36 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:04:03 PM
Carl jenkinson going Forest, RB we could have done with

He's done very little over the last few years, and despite that will be on decent wages I expect.
Could prove me wrong but don't see him as much of an upgrade on Christie truthfully
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 06, 2019, 12:11:36 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:04:03 PM
Carl jenkinson going Forest, RB we could have done with

He's done very little over the last few years, and despite that will be on decent wages I expect.
Could prove me wrong but don't see him as much of an upgrade on Christie truthfully

Tough one. I have a feeling he could end up like Evertons Luke Garbett. Primed to be the next big thing and just struggle to find his feet. Maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on August 06, 2019, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: gang on August 06, 2019, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: snarks on August 06, 2019, 11:24:22 AM
Clearly Fonte is rated so badly by you, you've named him twice!!


Not up to the English game, unbelievably Jol lied to him to get him to sign, he told him that Fulham would be playing in the Champions League; if only he had told him the truth we wouldn't be lumbered with him.

Thought that was Ruiz, jol wasn't involved with FFC by Fonte's signing
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 06, 2019, 01:06:54 PM
This Topic page is getting pathetic. If the posters who insist in trading handbags want to carry on I suggest they open a handbag topic all to themselves.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 01:09:01 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 06, 2019, 01:06:54 PM
This Topic page is getting pathetic. If the posters who insist in trading handbags want to carry on I suggest they open a handbag topic all to themselves.
If you create it, they will come...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 06, 2019, 01:15:31 PM
Anguissa's purchase option is apparently €25m.
Seri's has previously been stated as €18m.

https://www.elperiodicomediterraneo.com/noticias/deportes/zambo-anguissa-quiero-adaptarme-mas-rapido-posible_1237493.html
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 06, 2019, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: twang on August 06, 2019, 01:15:31 PM
Anguissa's purchase option is apparently €25m.
Seri's has previously been stated as €18m.

https://www.elperiodicomediterraneo.com/noticias/deportes/zambo-anguissa-quiero-adaptarme-mas-rapido-posible_1237493.html

If the pound keeps falling, we may even make a profit in that case haha!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 06, 2019, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on August 06, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Why are people still having this debate ? Done,dusted and boring .  Odoi was signed byT  Khan at least get your facts right !!

Odoi was signed 14 July 2016
TK was appointed DoF on 23 February 2017
Offically, but was running the transfer side of things at the time.

Agreed, I treat every signing from summer 2016 onwards as TK's, except Mitrovic obviously

Also we were in for McDonald the summer before under Rigg so that one is questionable
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: MJG on August 06, 2019, 02:05:06 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2019, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on August 06, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Why are people still having this debate ? Done,dusted and boring .  Odoi was signed byT  Khan at least get your facts right !!

Odoi was signed 14 July 2016
TK was appointed DoF on 23 February 2017
Offically, but was running the transfer side of things at the time.

Agreed, I treat every signing from summer 2016 onwards as TK's, except Mitrovic obviously

Also we were in for McDonald the summer before under Rigg so that one is questionable
On Mitro he was a target in jan 17 so I dont think you can pick and choose like that...although I know you will.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 06, 2019, 02:08:21 PM
Fulham just tweeted some training pictures and one player (with his back to the camera) looks suspiciously like Harry Arter. The post is now deleted.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: gang on August 06, 2019, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: snarks on August 06, 2019, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: gang on August 06, 2019, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: snarks on August 06, 2019, 11:24:22 AM
Clearly Fonte is rated so badly by you, you've named him twice!!



Not up to the English game, unbelievably Jol lied to him to get him to sign, he told him that Fulham would be playing in the Champions League; if only he had told him the truth we wouldn't be lumbered with him.

Thought that was Ruiz, jol wasn't involved with FFC by Fonte's signing
[/

Yes you're right, my mistake.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 06, 2019, 02:15:36 PM
Quote from: twang on August 06, 2019, 02:08:21 PM
Fulham just tweeted some training pictures and one player (with his back to the camera) looks suspiciously like Harry Arter. The post is now deleted.

That's him. I'm almost certain
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 06, 2019, 02:16:52 PM
https://www.footballinsider247.com/bruce-allowing-murphy-to-go/amp/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 06, 2019, 02:18:57 PM
Must be delaying the announcement so Blackburn can't prepare.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 06, 2019, 02:20:36 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 06, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
That's all very lovely, but are there any transfer rumours to talk about rather than bitching at each other about who signed who! It's getting tedious and quite frankly boring now.
I will be glad when the damn window is shut. 🤪🙏🙏

Well said.
082.gif :plus one:

(Yes, I know I can ignore this thread)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 06, 2019, 02:25:22 PM
i just wish we  would start announcing people, instead of leaving 95% of business til deadline day!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 06, 2019, 02:31:12 PM
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/a-closer-look-as-fulham-engage-in-transfer-tussle-with-sheffield-united-the-verdict/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: simplyfulham on August 06, 2019, 03:00:46 PM
Newcastle are currently over stocked in centre halves with 6 first team players in the squad at the moment who can play CB. I'm surprised they haven't moved any of them on yet and it would seem like a good move for us if we could bring one of them in on a loan with a view to buy - which seems to be the preferred model we've been chasing so far this summer.

They currently have:
Jamaa Lascelles
Fabian Schar
Florian Lejune
Federico Fernandez
Ciaran Clark
Paul Dummett
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 06, 2019, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 06, 2019, 02:16:52 PM
https://www.footballinsider247.com/bruce-allowing-murphy-to-go/amp/

We are well stocked for wingers.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 06, 2019, 03:20:22 PM
http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2019/08/06/newcastle-receive-4-offers-for-jacob-murphy-report/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 06, 2019, 03:22:42 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 06, 2019, 03:20:22 PM
http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2019/08/06/newcastle-receive-4-offers-for-jacob-murphy-report/

Not sure why we'd be signing another winger. Would fit with last time we were in the championship and had 8 wingers in the squad I guess.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on August 06, 2019, 03:25:11 PM
Once again, this was spoken about at length in the podcast. Mitro had been followed by our scouting and stats team for some time. We wanted him, he wanted to go to Anderlecht, when that fell through last minute we got back in contact and that's when we used Slavs personal Serbian connection to our advantage. (a manager who our DOF also helped to appoint by the way) so to not attribute that transfer as a success on TK's behalf is both incredibly convenient and shows a huge amount of bias towards a certain argument as opposed to assessing sensibly what has been stated on record and giving dues where they are clearly due. Not to deny Slav's influence, credit to both of them...but Mitro was already well on our radar.

Also worth noting, had we done our business early and signed Okaka as our striker, and not waited until the end of the window, as we suspected there may be more quality available within budget.... We wouldn't have been able to sign Mitro. Who hit the ground running despite being signed last minute and fired us to promotion. Not to say there haven't been examples to the contrary, but again, these are not facts to be ignored if trying to have a balanced look at things.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 06, 2019, 04:12:50 PM
arter announced
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 06, 2019, 04:13:29 PM
apparently, Amartey is having a medical today but there is still work to be done. doing the medical so it doesnt hold things up
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on August 06, 2019, 04:17:19 PM
 Danny simpson in talks with brighton has to be worth a go at getting him to sign for us on a free
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 06, 2019, 04:19:53 PM
I think Arter´s option to buy is only if we get promoted.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on August 06, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
Amartey, I don't know much about him. Is he any good and is he a CDM?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 06, 2019, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: jayffc on August 06, 2019, 03:25:11 PM
Who hit the ground running despite being signed last minute and fired us to promotion.

Not really. There were 4 games between the window opening and us signing Mitro, then a further 3 games before he came good. We took 19 pts from those 7 games because actually, we got going before Mitro came in. Had we been dependant on that signing, and done poor in those 7 games, we may not even have made the play-offs.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 06, 2019, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 06, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
Amartey, I don't know much about him. Is he any good and is he a CDM?

has played as both cb and in a cdm/cm role for leicester,  6 foot one and  missed half of last season due to  broken arm.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on August 06, 2019, 04:45:50 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 06, 2019, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 06, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
Amartey, I don't know much about him. Is he any good and is he a CDM?

has played as both cb and in a cdm/cm role for leicester,  6 foot one and  missed half of last season due to  broken arm.


Thanks
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!

I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: RP24 on August 06, 2019, 05:10:47 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!

I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).

I think it was his ankle that got broken not his arm.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!

I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).

According to Wikipedia it was a broken ankle
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 06, 2019, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!

I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).

According to Wikipedia it was a broken ankle

When I broke my ankle it was stronger than the other ankle when it healed. Most broken bones are the same.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 05:49:41 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 06, 2019, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!

I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).

According to Wikipedia it was a broken ankle

When I broke my ankle it was stronger than the other ankle when it healed. Most broken bones are the same.

With the right therapy thats often the case. Without, it can forever be weaker.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 06, 2019, 05:55:24 PM
Jack Pitt-Brooke
@Daniel M. I think Danny is going to stay now. And I think Spurs are still pushing for Sessegnon regardless of that. Yesterday I was confident this would happen. For £20m and Josh Onomah. Now... maybe slightly less confident. I was just told that talks are "ongoing". It's not going to be quite as easy as we thought.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on August 06, 2019, 06:09:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2019, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: jayffc on August 06, 2019, 03:25:11 PM
Who hit the ground running despite being signed last minute and fired us to promotion.

Not really. There were 4 games between the window opening and us signing Mitro, then a further 3 games before he came good. We took 19 pts from those 7 games because actually, we got going before Mitro came in. Had we been dependant on that signing, and done poor in those 7 games, we may not even have made the play-offs.

I see where you're coming from however my point was, he came in and it didn't take him time to adjust. Nout said about the rest of the team and what they were/are up to, just that a player coming in is capable of fitting straight in and playing well and improving a team. Which he undoubtedly did. Yes I can see that this team is not currently in form, but plenty of time for that to alter over the course of the season. As we know that promotion season didn't get going until very very late. Plenty of time for new players to come in and improve us before we get to that point where we'll need an insane unbeaten run to be in contention.

Interesting that, as ever you pick the one part you feel you had something for but yet again are never inclined to acknowledge any of the valid points around it at the same time.

Anyway, we'll be sent to the handbags topic again if we run this route again. I hear part of your point, but I think there's plenty validity in the points made previous that unsurprisingly go unacknowledged.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on August 06, 2019, 06:46:41 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 06, 2019, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 06, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
Amartey, I don't know much about him. Is he any good and is he a CDM?

has played as both cb and in a cdm/cm role for leicester,  6 foot one and  missed half of last season due to  broken arm.
Which half of the season did he miss and has he had a pre season or not.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Classic94 on August 06, 2019, 07:26:07 PM
Timings aside, Carter-Vickers, Amartey + another defensive player = decent window. Make it happen Tony...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on August 06, 2019, 08:44:21 PM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!

I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).

According to Wikipedia it was a broken ankle

Oops, sorry.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 06, 2019, 10:24:20 PM
Onomah who is considered an add on for Sess has taken the interest of Newcastle.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: OMalleyCat on August 06, 2019, 10:37:40 PM
Daniel Amartey would be a good signing, Listed as a DM but has played CB. And according to transfer markt can play RB. Hopefully he better version of TFM.

Just need a legitimate CB in now...

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 06, 2019, 10:51:53 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 06, 2019, 10:37:40 PM
Daniel Amartey would be a good signing, Listed as a DM but has played CB. And according to transfer markt can play RB. Hopefully he better version of TFM.

Just need a legitimate CB in now...

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Thats my worry. He will be what we get. Not a genuine CB
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: OMalleyCat on August 06, 2019, 11:40:47 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 06, 2019, 10:51:53 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 06, 2019, 10:37:40 PM
Daniel Amartey would be a good signing, Listed as a DM but has played CB. And according to transfer markt can play RB. Hopefully he better version of TFM.

Just need a legitimate CB in now...

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Thats my worry. He will be what we get. Not a genuine CB
Looking likely now as Hector is joining Wednesday on a permanent.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 06:59:20 AM
According to Press McKenna now being tracked by Bristol City(Webster replacement)? Notts Forest QPR and two other Championship clubs...Us?
Aberdeen still holding firm on their asking price.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 07, 2019, 11:19:55 AM
It's so quiet, no new rumours?
One day left, and we still need a CB and a MF.

How many hours left before the window close?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 07, 2019, 11:19:55 AM
It's so quiet, no new rumours?
One day left, and we still need a CB and a MF.

How many hours left before the window close?


5pm tomorrow. Concerning times.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 07, 2019, 11:33:33 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 07, 2019, 11:19:55 AM
It's so quiet, no new rumours?
One day left, and we still need a CB and a MF.

How many hours left before the window close?


Don't forget the RB!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 07, 2019, 11:45:07 AM
No rumours doesn't mean no work is ongoing. We know with almost certainty it is. Hopefully we have just learnt to keep things under wraps.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on August 07, 2019, 11:47:29 AM
No rumours, no sightings at Motspur Park, no word from Spurs about Sess.
Could be that we have seen all the action we are going to for this window which is possibly just as well as otherwise we are now into bargain basement buys, that is leftovers.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JimOG on August 07, 2019, 11:50:30 AM
Alan Nixon usually well informed? I like the little I've seen of Besic - looks a really tough tackling DFM but with real skill
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.

I like this. Would be perfect fit for DM.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riverside on August 07, 2019, 11:55:35 AM
Quote from: JimOG on August 07, 2019, 11:50:30 AM
Alan Nixon usually well informed? I like the little I've seen of Besic - looks a really tough tackling DFM but with real skill

Yes Alan Nixon is usually well informed
I would take a tweet from him over 95% of the "noise" out there

Besic or Amartey I think .
I think I prefer Amartey but no complaints about Besic




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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riverside on August 07, 2019, 12:00:58 PM
Have just looked at the BBC transfer message board .

Plenty of fans meeting down about lack of transfers ( I am especially amused about unhappy Liverpool fans and not surprised and interested in unhappy Spurs fans )

Most clubs have business still to do and when they buy will sell or loan
So
1) as usual 50% of the Business will be done in the next 29 hours .
So on that basis I expect 3 more in and 3 out from us
2) many fans will still be unhappy
On that basis I still expect a meltdown






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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Skatzoffc on August 07, 2019, 12:05:48 PM
If Sheffield Utd are in for Amartey, I would expect him to plump for the PL action.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 07, 2019, 12:08:51 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.
Think he'd be excellent for us, and for £5m very affordable

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 07, 2019, 12:09:53 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 07, 2019, 11:45:07 AM
No rumours doesn't mean no work is ongoing. We know with almost certainty it is. Hopefully we have just learnt to keep things under wraps.

Quote from: filham on August 07, 2019, 11:47:29 AM
No rumours, no sightings at Motspur Park, no word from Spurs about Sess.
Could be that we have seen all the action we are going to for this window which is possibly just as well as otherwise we are now into bargain basement buys, that is leftovers.

Two different outlooks on the situation at the moment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 07, 2019, 12:24:37 PM
Forrest bidding for Chema, a Spanish CB who we have been linked with on and off through the entire window.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 07, 2019, 12:36:02 PM
FB´s & CB´s seem to be going everywhere except to us. Of course they may not be better than what we have .
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 07, 2019, 12:39:24 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 07, 2019, 12:24:37 PM
Forrest bidding for Chema, a Spanish CB who we have been linked with on and off through the entire window.

We dont have to worry there then. I'm sure he would chose us over Forest.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on August 07, 2019, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.

I like this. Would be perfect fit for DM.

Yeah about two weeks too late as usual. We will get the standard line after deadline that we couldn't get the deal done in time. This move has stood out like dogs balls. We need a central midfielder. Hey that guy Besicvis a central midfielder. And his current club don't have any room for him. We should make an enquiry.... it's like TK and his crew are all on qualudes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 01:15:34 PM
QPR 6 mill bid for McKenna on Aberdeen site.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 07, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
Big Shad is in town for Deadline Day, can only mean he is here with the check book!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 07, 2019, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 01:15:34 PM
QPR 6 mill bid for McKenna on Aberdeen site.

Didnt think QPR had 6millon to spend
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 07, 2019, 01:23:14 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 07, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
Big Shad is in town for Deadline Day, can only mean he is here with the check book!

that or a NFL game is on
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 01:25:54 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 07, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
Big Shad is in town for Deadline Day, can only mean he is here with the check book!

He is picking up the new Anchor for his Yacht at Surrey Docks.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 07, 2019, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2019, 01:23:14 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 07, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
Big Shad is in town for Deadline Day, can only mean he is here with the check book!

that or a NFL game is on

Their season has not started so no games over here at the moment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 01:36:07 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2019, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.

I like this. Would be perfect fit for DM.

Yeah about two weeks too late as usual. We will get the standard line after deadline that we couldn't get the deal done in time. This move has stood out like dogs balls. We need a central midfielder. Hey that guy Besicvis a central midfielder. And his current club don't have any room for him. We should make an enquiry.... it's like TK and his crew are all on qualudes.

Or, Besic will be a top signing at this level, and we have been negotiating to get a good deal.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: the nutflush on August 07, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
Here to give his son a smack on the botty.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 07, 2019, 01:41:34 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 01:36:07 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2019, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.

I like this. Would be perfect fit for DM.

Yeah about two weeks too late as usual. We will get the standard line after deadline that we couldn't get the deal done in time. This move has stood out like dogs balls. We need a central midfielder. Hey that guy Besicvis a central midfielder. And his current club don't have any room for him. We should make an enquiry.... it's like TK and his crew are all on qualudes.

Or, Besic will be a top signing at this level, and we have been negotiating to get a good deal.

it will be 5M we will be witing on them getiing a replacement for the chap that when to PSG and McArhur whose gone to palace
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on August 07, 2019, 01:59:31 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 07, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
Big Shad is in town for Deadline Day, can only mean he is here with the check book!
And big brown envelopes stuffed with £50 notes.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 07, 2019, 02:00:50 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2019, 01:41:34 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 01:36:07 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2019, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.

I like this. Would be perfect fit for DM.

Yeah about two weeks too late as usual. We will get the standard line after deadline that we couldn't get the deal done in time. This move has stood out like dogs balls. We need a central midfielder. Hey that guy Besicvis a central midfielder. And his current club don't have any room for him. We should make an enquiry.... it's like TK and his crew are all on qualudes.

Or, Besic will be a top signing at this level, and we have been negotiating to get a good deal.

it will be 5M we will be witing on them getiing a replacement for the chap that when to PSG and McArhur whose gone to palace

They've already signed the Gueye replacement.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 07, 2019, 02:36:41 PM
Forest now linked with Hector for £4M........ thats a no brainer! Go in bish bash bosh £5m thank you very much.....
Will be worth multiple time that if he lives up to expectations.

Job done!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 02:37:27 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2019, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 01:15:34 PM
QPR 6 mill bid for McKenna on Aberdeen site.

Didnt think QPR had 6millon to spend

They obviously must have if they've bidded it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 02:42:42 PM
https://www.germanijak.hr/vijesti/bih-reprezentativac-prelazi-u-fulham/64772

Fulham coach Scott Parker was clear - bring me Muhammad Besic!

According to English media reports, the former England national team, and the current Fulham coach, fervently wants the BiH national team in its ranks, having lost quite a number of players who did not want to play for the Championship club next season.

Everton would only outsource Besic to Fulham on loan, and that option is also not something that over-worries the London team as long as there is a buy-in clause at the end of the season.

The diminutive midfielder has defended the colors of HSV, Ferrecvaros and Everton throughout his career and spent last season on loan at Middlesbrough.

For the BiH national team, this 26-year-old has 40 appearances and is still waiting for his first shot at the Dragons jersey.

Muhamed Besic has a contract with Everton until the summer of 2021, and its market value is estimated at five million euros.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 07, 2019, 03:31:21 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 02:42:42 PM
https://www.germanijak.hr/vijesti/bih-reprezentativac-prelazi-u-fulham/64772

Fulham coach Scott Parker was clear - bring me Muhammad Besic!

According to English media reports, the former England national team, and the current Fulham coach, fervently wants the BiH national team in its ranks, having lost quite a number of players who did not want to play for the Championship club next season.

Everton would only outsource Besic to Fulham on loan, and that option is also not something that over-worries the London team as long as there is a buy-in clause at the end of the season.

The diminutive midfielder has defended the colors of HSV, Ferrecvaros and Everton throughout his career and spent last season on loan at Middlesbrough.

For the BiH national team, this 26-year-old has 40 appearances and is still waiting for his first shot at the Dragons jersey.

Muhamed Besic has a contract with Everton until the summer of 2021, and its market value is estimated at five million euros.

This is a nonsense, he's out of contract next summer so they'd want to sell if possible. I hope he comes though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on August 07, 2019, 03:41:08 PM
Online several sources report he has 2 years left on contract. Our issue being that until Sessegnon sold we only have 5 or 6 mil to spend under FFP
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 07, 2019, 03:54:58 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.

1.77m tall. So about the same height as Odoi. So he is below the Bosnia and Herzegovina average (1.83m) but taller than the UK average (1.75m).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 07, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
Aberdeen will only let McKenna go when someone matches their asking price of £7 mil. Come on TK, snatch him from Forest. FFP can´t be that close.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.

I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: dgnffc on August 07, 2019, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.

I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .

Kante is only 5ft 6ins
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 07, 2019, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: dgnffc on August 07, 2019, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.

I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .

Kante is only 5ft 6ins
#

Messi is 5' 7" and he turned out ok
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 04:50:46 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.

I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .

I'm 6ft 1 ins......but 6ft 6ins in my slippers.😊
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 04:52:23 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 07, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
Aberdeen will only let McKenna go when someone matches their asking price of £7 mil. Come on TK, snatch him from Forest. FFP can´t be that close.

Just read he travelled with them for Europa tie in Croatia... So looks like he be staying there in this window.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on August 07, 2019, 04:58:46 PM
We're lurking !

Sorry if this has already appeaed on this thread.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/07/do-report-sheffield-wednesday-enter-michael-hector-talks-as-fulh/

Report: Sheffield Wednesday enter Michael Hector talks as Fulham lurk

Sheffield Wednesday are in talks to sign Michael Hector on a permanent deal but Fulham are also interested in the Chelsea defender, according to the Mail.

Just a week ago, Wednesday fans would have been very worried about the club's trajectory heading into what looked set to be a testing 2019/20 campaign. They lost their manager, Steve Bruce walking out to join Newcastle with barely a second glance, and not a single penny had been spent on new signings.

But suddenly, things are looking up at Hillsborough. It is amazing what a couple of days can do.

The Mail claims that Chelsea's West London neighbours Fulham are interested too and, as anyone who watched The Cottagers over the last 12 months will tell you, a quality centre-half is a must.

Fulham conceded 81 goals en route to relegation last season and they were their own worst enemies again in Saturday's shock defeat to Wigan. Hector would provide experience and strength at the back – two attributes The Cottagers are crying out for.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 05:04:57 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 04:50:46 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.

I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .

I'm 6ft 1 ins......but 6ft 6ins in my slippers.😊

You are very tall for your height
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HillingdonFFC on August 07, 2019, 05:05:10 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2019, 04:58:46 PM
We're lurking !

Sorry if this has already appeaed on this thread.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/07/do-report-sheffield-wednesday-enter-michael-hector-talks-as-fulh/

Report: Sheffield Wednesday enter Michael Hector talks as Fulham lurk

Sheffield Wednesday are in talks to sign Michael Hector on a permanent deal but Fulham are also interested in the Chelsea defender, according to the Mail.

Just a week ago, Wednesday fans would have been very worried about the club's trajectory heading into what looked set to be a testing 2019/20 campaign. They lost their manager, Steve Bruce walking out to join Newcastle with barely a second glance, and not a single penny had been spent on new signings.

But suddenly, things are looking up at Hillsborough. It is amazing what a couple of days can do.

The Mail claims that Chelsea's West London neighbours Fulham are interested too and, as anyone who watched The Cottagers over the last 12 months will tell you, a quality centre-half is a must.

Fulham conceded 81 goals en route to relegation last season and they were their own worst enemies again in Saturday's shock defeat to Wigan. Hector would provide experience and strength at the back – two attributes The Cottagers are crying out for.




There's been a free cryptic tweets from Wednesday players today, would be delighted if we got him but reading between the lines I reckon he's nailed on to go back there
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 05:07:22 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 07, 2019, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: dgnffc on August 07, 2019, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.

I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .

Kante is only 5ft 6ins
#

Messi is 5' 7" and he turned out ok

But maybe not at CB though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Dr Quinzel on August 07, 2019, 05:26:30 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.

I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .

I'm 5'10 and I'm terrible, so this doesn't bode well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 07, 2019, 05:29:42 PM
For me pace is more important for a DM than height, we were overrun in midfield on Sat because we were outpaced. Granted for a cb we need more height.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 07, 2019, 05:30:20 PM
I'm getting this sinking feeling tomorrows going to be an absolute wash out....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 07, 2019, 05:44:33 PM
'Report: #Derby and Fulham want £12m Newcastle winger Jacob Murphy
#FulhamFC 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 #Premier_League'

Another winger!? 🙈
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 07, 2019, 05:47:17 PM
The transfer window is set for mayhem as usual. Not sure whether to watch the last hour on Sky or have an early night & see what has happened in the morning.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2019, 05:51:18 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 07, 2019, 05:47:17 PM
The transfer window is set for mayhem as usual. Not sure whether to watch the last hour on Sky or have an early night & see what has happened in the morning.

The window *slams shut* at 5pm so I reckon you'll be ok to stay up for your cocoa granddad.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on August 07, 2019, 05:54:24 PM
Certainly if you were to read into Hector's twitter activity recently it looks likely he'll be heading back to swfc. A shame if so although I'll wait to see what we end up with a CB before judging. He clearly enjoyed his time there so unsurprising he may want to go back, fans love him -much like Mitro for us.

So here we go...the countdown is upon us and well see where were at come the end of tomorrow.  Cant come soon enough!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 07, 2019, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2019, 05:51:18 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 07, 2019, 05:47:17 PM
The transfer window is set for mayhem as usual. Not sure whether to watch the last hour on Sky or have an early night & see what has happened in the morning.

The window *slams shut* at 5pm so I reckon you'll be ok to stay up for your cocoa granddad.

I forgot it shuts early. 6pm for me in Spain so I can enjoy my night time La Bamba. Hot chocolate with a decent slug of Brandy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFCpmd on August 07, 2019, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2019, 04:58:46 PM
We're lurking !

Sorry if this has already appeaed on this thread.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/07/do-report-sheffield-wednesday-enter-michael-hector-talks-as-fulh/

Report: Sheffield Wednesday enter Michael Hector talks as Fulham lurk

Sheffield Wednesday are in talks to sign Michael Hector on a permanent deal but Fulham are also interested in the Chelsea defender, according to the Mail.

Just a week ago, Wednesday fans would have been very worried about the club's trajectory heading into what looked set to be a testing 2019/20 campaign. They lost their manager, Steve Bruce walking out to join Newcastle with barely a second glance, and not a single penny had been spent on new signings.

But suddenly, things are looking up at Hillsborough. It is amazing what a couple of days can do.

The Mail claims that Chelsea's West London neighbours Fulham are interested too and, as anyone who watched The Cottagers over the last 12 months will tell you, a quality centre-half is a must.

Fulham conceded 81 goals en route to relegation last season and they were their own worst enemies again in Saturday's shock defeat to Wigan. Hector would provide experience and strength at the back – two attributes The Cottagers are crying out for.


Blimey, it gets worse. Had no idea we'd also had a shock defeat to Wigan on Saturday....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on August 07, 2019, 07:04:04 PM
SPURS NEAR SESSEGNON DEAL

A deal between Spurs and Fulham for Ryan Sessegnon is getting closer.

And the transfer is expected to be completed before the window shuts at 5pm tomorrow.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 07, 2019, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 07, 2019, 07:04:04 PM
SPURS NEAR SESSEGNON DEAL

A deal between Spurs and Fulham for Ryan Sessegnon is getting closer.

And the transfer is expected to be completed before the window shuts at 5pm tomorrow.

Due to the lateness of the deal Fulham will rush through winger Arnold Rustbucket from Bridlington Over 50s  but he did once play centre half for the under 11s so that counts as our centre half.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham76 on August 07, 2019, 07:43:31 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 07, 2019, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 07, 2019, 07:04:04 PM
SPURS NEAR SESSEGNON DEAL

A deal between Spurs and Fulham for Ryan Sessegnon is getting closer.

And the transfer is expected to be completed before the window shuts at 5pm tomorrow.

Due to the lateness of the deal Fulham will rush through winger Arnold Rustbucket from Bridlington Over 50s  but he did once play centre half for the under 11s so that counts as our centre half.

A solid addition
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 07:50:50 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/11779589/tottenham-expect-to-sign-ryan-sessegnon-on-deadline-day
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: @jolslover on August 07, 2019, 07:53:29 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.

He's not played a game in a year and a half, wouldn't be a great signing.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:58:52 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 07, 2019, 07:53:29 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.

He's not played a game in a year and a half, wouldn't be a great signing.

Yeah, I know that but he is not injury prone player per se (just had than one bad injury in career), so he would be valuable addition if healthy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on August 07, 2019, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.

I wouldn't mind him, you're right he's a non-nonsense back. I'd just be genuinely concerned of his physical and mental fitness considering how long he's been out.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 07, 2019, 08:59:50 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on August 07, 2019, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.

I wouldn't mind him, you're right he's a non-nonsense back. I'd just be genuinely concerned of his physical and mental fitness considering how long he's been out.

What happened to Reece Oxford rumour
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on August 07, 2019, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2019, 08:59:50 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on August 07, 2019, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.

I wouldn't mind him, you're right he's a non-nonsense back. I'd just be genuinely concerned of his physical and mental fitness considering how long he's been out.

What happened to Reece Oxford rumour

Signed for Augsburg like he was always likely to. Think it was just agents messing around as to why his original move there fell through earlier in the summer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on August 07, 2019, 09:11:05 PM
I'd take Reid. If we signed one of Tomori, Hector, Reid, Federico Fernandez I'd be happy. 

Potential "wildcard" option would be us sticking with Mawson as the RCB and going for someone like a Riedewald from Palace. Can play LCB and DM. Good age as well.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 07, 2019, 09:23:38 PM
If/when Sess leaves the squad still needs 3 players to fill out it's roster if they aren't planning to use the U23/U18 players.

The squad depth is shite.    If either of our new hires goes down we've got Ayite as the viable backup.  THAT'S IT.      Kebano..not clinical.   AK47...not clinical.

I was slightly worried after our loss this weekend.     If we don't bring in 3 players and we let one of our other goal scorers go (Sess) I'm going to be very worried.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 07, 2019, 09:29:57 PM
Sess should have been gone months ago. If he wasn't going to sign a deal then F off and let us get on with it. I think a lot rides on his transfer funds
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 07, 2019, 09:31:41 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 07, 2019, 09:23:38 PM
If/when Sess leaves the squad still needs 3 players to fill out it's roster if they aren't planning to use the U23/U18 players.

The squad depth is shite.    If either of our new hires goes down we've got Ayite as the viable backup.  THAT'S IT.      Kebano..not clinical.   AK47...not clinical.

I was slightly worried after our loss this weekend.     If we don't bring in 3 players and we let one of our other goal scorers go (Sess) I'm going to be very worried.

You're worrying about the wingers?  That's the only position we have depth. Get some perspective man.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BestOfBrede on August 07, 2019, 09:34:41 PM
If rumours are true, which I doubt (and hope are not true, in all seriousness), why are spuds happy to pay 55m for lo celso and prepared to wait until the last second of the transfer window and haggle over what we want for Sess? Is it that they see us as easy pickings?
I would tell them to do one, whenever they enquire about any of our players, personally!
Seems, from the press, that they have wanted Sess for couple of seasons and yet not prepared to pay the asking price and instead wait knowing we will break eventually?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: wheelerdeeler on August 07, 2019, 09:35:48 PM
I wouldn't expect anything more than a Centre-Back and a DM tomorrow. You'll just be setting yourself up for disappointment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 07, 2019, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 07, 2019, 09:34:41 PM
If rumours are true, which I doubt (and hope are not true, in all seriousness), why are spuds happy to pay 55m for lo celso and prepared to wait until the last second of the transfer window and haggle over what we want for Sess? Is it that they see us as easy pickings?
I would tell them to do one, whenever they enquire about any of our players, personally!
Seems, from the press, that they have wanted Sess for couple of seasons and yet not prepared to pay the asking price and instead wait knowing we will break eventually?

If the rumours are true they're willing to pay £30 million and Onomah for Sess as recently as yesterday while they were haggling over a couple of million with Betis over Lo Celso.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham Tup North on August 07, 2019, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 07, 2019, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 07, 2019, 07:04:04 PM
SPURS NEAR SESSEGNON DEAL

A deal between Spurs and Fulham for Ryan Sessegnon is getting closer.

And the transfer is expected to be completed before the window shuts at 5pm tomorrow.

Due to the lateness of the deal Fulham will rush through winger Arnold Rustbucket from Bridlington Over 50s  but he did once play centre half for the under 11s so that counts as our centre half.
I'm in Scarborough and believe me, Arnold is NO Centre Half 👍😂
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 10:23:40 PM
After all this time,one thing is for sure,we will find
out tomorrow, who is out and who is in....Coyw
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
@bbcsport_david

Provided agreement finalised between Tottenham & Fulham overnight, Ryan Sessegnon's medical anticipated for early morning. Key #THFC target and as reported on eve of window opening (https://t.co/PNzbdFpRwb) Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term #FFC

So the fee is still a sticking point then.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 07, 2019, 10:42:28 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
@bbcsport_david

Provided agreement finalised between Tottenham & Fulham overnight, Ryan Sessegnon's medical anticipated for early morning. Key #THFC target and as reported on eve of window opening (https://t.co/PNzbdFpRwb) Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term #FFC

So the fee is still a sticking point then.

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I'd say finalised agreement means that the fee is ironed out.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 07, 2019, 10:45:48 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term

Sorry but any story suggesting he'll be getting competitive minutes for them in the foreseeable future, i just cannot take seriously. he's not even among the top 5 players in his position in the championship.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Neutral Zone Ultra on August 07, 2019, 10:54:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 07, 2019, 10:45:48 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term

Sorry but any story suggesting he'll be getting competitive minutes for them in the foreseeable future, i just cannot take seriously. he's not even among the top 5 players in his position in the championship.
I sort of agree, I do question why Ryan thinks it's the best option out there.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 07, 2019, 11:10:24 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 07, 2019, 10:42:28 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
@bbcsport_david

Provided agreement finalised between Tottenham & Fulham overnight, Ryan Sessegnon's medical anticipated for early morning. Key #THFC target and as reported on eve of window opening (https://t.co/PNzbdFpRwb) Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term #FFC

So the fee is still a sticking point then.

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I'd say finalised agreement means that the fee is ironed out.
Does say provided agreement finalised, to me that indicates fee sort of agreed but the add ons/ player exchanges or sell ons yet to be sorted
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 07, 2019, 11:24:22 PM
Knowing how Levy treats us he will delay the transfer until the last minute leaving us no time to invest the funds. AGAIN. He has tapped up Sess for 2 seasons & has only just made a real approach. I detest him more than any other owner.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham 442 on August 07, 2019, 11:25:46 PM
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 07, 2019, 11:36:48 PM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 07, 2019, 11:25:46 PM
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...

8pm if you're in the UK!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on August 07, 2019, 11:49:43 PM
Out all day. What happened to the Besic and Amartey rumours.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 01:41:02 AM
David Ornstein (@bbcsport_david)
8/7/19, 8:14 PM
Tottenham have reached an agreement with Fulham to sign England U21 left-back Ryan Sessegnon for £25m with #THFC midfielder Josh Onomah joining #FFC as part of the deal. Hearing proposed signing of Real Betis midfielder Giovani Lo Celso likely to be loan with an obligation to buy
There are £5m worth of performance-based add-ons in the Sessegnon deal that could see the final fee paid to Fulham by Tottenham rise to £30m
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on August 08, 2019, 06:23:13 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 01:41:02 AM
David Ornstein (@bbcsport_david)
8/7/19, 8:14 PM
Tottenham have reached an agreement with Fulham to sign England U21 left-back Ryan Sessegnon for £25m with #THFC midfielder Josh Onomah joining #FFC as part of the deal. Hearing proposed signing of Real Betis midfielder Giovani Lo Celso likely to be loan with an obligation to buy
There are £5m worth of performance-based add-ons in the Sessegnon deal that could see the final fee paid to Fulham by Tottenham rise to £30m

Sounds a decent deal given the circumstances. Now sign a DM, CB and a RB if possible.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: KJS on August 08, 2019, 07:00:16 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 07, 2019, 10:45:48 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term

Sorry but any story suggesting he'll be getting competitive minutes for them in the foreseeable future, i just cannot take seriously. he's not even among the top 5 players in his position in the championship.

I actually agree with you Statto but the boy wants away so its best to get rid now for money, I just hope for his sake that his future is bright and he doesn't turn out to be another Big Talent lost in the ether.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 07:16:45 AM
Happy with the money for Sess, just hope we have a sell % as part of the sale
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on August 08, 2019, 07:23:04 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 07, 2019, 11:36:48 PM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 07, 2019, 11:25:46 PM
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...

8pm if you're in the UK!!

I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 08, 2019, 07:42:06 AM
7.40mand we haven't signed anyone yet. It's a joke what's going on!!!!!!

Oh do you think.we might get sess back on loan until the end of the season as.they haven't shifted Rose
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 08:13:25 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 07, 2019, 11:24:22 PM
Knowing how Levy treats us he will delay the transfer until the last minute leaving us no time to invest the funds. AGAIN. He has tapped up Sess for 2 seasons & has only just made a real approach. I detest him more than any other owner.

You wouldn't say that if he was our owner.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 08:17:10 AM
from what ive read  the Transfer window closes at 17:00 BST so about 8 hrs 45 min to go
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:23:28 AM
Sideshow Bob...Chelsea to Arsenal is a surprise.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AM

Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...


8pm if you're in the UK!!


I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?

It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AM

Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...


8pm if you're in the UK!!


I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?

It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Sky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 08:40:42 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AM

Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...


8pm if you're in the UK!!


I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?

It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Sky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form

You get a time extension if you submit a deal sheet to the FA
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 08:41:57 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AM

Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...


8pm if you're in the UK!!


I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?

It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Sky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
youbalways get a few hours after window is shut to to actually finalise dont you. We've signed a few that went well past deadline, just need to get a certain bit of paper work in before 5
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:44:17 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 08:41:57 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AM

Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...


8pm if you're in the UK!!


I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?

It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Sky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
youbalways get a few hours after window is shut to to actually finalise dont you. We've signed a few that went well past deadline, just need to get a certain bit of paper work in before 5
Yes that's correct but thought it was openly from prem clubs who submit a deal sheet.

Deadline is 5pm, i am not sure the EFL use deal sheets to delay deals
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 08:53:47 AM
Spurs centre half Cameron Carter-vickers is on his way to Stoke City,  I'm assuming we must have somebody else lined up otherwise why wouldn't we have included him in the Sessegnon deal ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 08:58:21 AM
I hope S Sess is not part of any deal. With R Sess going it will give him the opportunity to blossom while not in the shadow of his brother. I hope we see S Sess & Fossey fighting it out for the No. 1 RB slot for years to come. I suppose some "big" club will steal them from us though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 09:22:14 AM
Woolly I'm hiding behind the big tree 🌲 at Motspur,bring us an ice cream down later.🍦
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ScalleysDad on August 08, 2019, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:23:28 AM
Sideshow Bob...Chelsea to Arsenal is a surprise.


Interesting and somewhat surprising. With the Gooners shoring up their defence it would take seem Chambers is not going to feature. In our season of consolidation and putting down some proper foundations is he worth a shout?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 09:34:45 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:44:17 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 08:41:57 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AM

Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...


8pm if you're in the UK!!


I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?

It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Sky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
youbalways get a few hours after window is shut to to actually finalise dont you. We've signed a few that went well past deadline, just need to get a certain bit of paper work in before 5
Yes that's correct but thought it was openly from prem clubs who submit a deal sheet.

Deadline is 5pm, i am not sure the EFL use deal sheets to delay deals
we def signed some after the window in the slav era whilst in championship. Martin for one albeit a lone, and def a right back who's name escapes me at the mo
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 09:36:05 AM
Mitro was a deal sheet as well unless I'm misremembering.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 09:44:06 AM
I have a gut feeling we will be quiet today. Carter-Vickers looks like he is off to Stoke. I think we will see Besic come in and the lad Spurs are including as part of the Sess deal but I don't see anything else happening
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LittleErn on August 08, 2019, 09:51:53 AM
NFR Just for the record.... it's BATED breath not baited. Look it up. Sorry to be such a pedant, but it's one of my pet hates. 👨🏻‍🎓
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 10:31:26 AM
Southampton's Harrison Reed is set for a move to the Championship - hearing Fulham are leading the chase, but others are keen.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 10:39:04 AM
Wanyama can go out on loan
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AM

Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...


8pm if you're in the UK!!


I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?

It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Sky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form

It's until 7pm not 8pm
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 10:40:21 AM
FULHAM, BRISTOL CITY INTERESTED IN REID

Sky sources understand Bobby Reid could leave Cardiff City today with Bristol City and Fulham both interested in signing the attacking midfielder.

Reid only left Bristol City last summer for a fee of £10m.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 10:40:31 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 10:31:26 AM
Southampton's Harrison Reed is set for a move to the Championship - hearing Fulham are leading the chase, but others are keen.

Would he be a defensive midfield option? Can't say I remember having seen him play.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Toby Ward-Smith on August 08, 2019, 10:40:52 AM
Fulham, Bristol City interested in Reid

Sky sources understand Bobby Reid could leave Cardiff City today was Bristol City and Fulham both interested in signing the attaching midfielder.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 10:46:57 AM
Anyone know if josh the spurs player coming our way is any good?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 10:50:25 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 10:46:57 AM
Anyone know if josh the spurs player coming our way is any good?

He was very highly rated a couple of years ago but hasn't impressed at either Villa or Sheffield Wednesday. Remember he looked good in a game against us for Villa though. Hopefully Parker who will know him from his time at spurs will be able to get something out of him.

Not expecting a whole lot though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 09:36:05 AM
Mitro was a deal sheet as well unless I'm misremembering.
Because he was at a premium  club so deal short possible as I understand things
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 10:54:10 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 09:34:45 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:44:17 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 08:41:57 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AM

Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...


8pm if you're in the UK!!


I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?

It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Sky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
youbalways get a few hours after window is shut to to actually finalise dont you. We've signed a few that went well past deadline, just need to get a certain bit of paper work in before 5
Yes that's correct but thought it was openly from prem clubs who submit a deal sheet.

Deadline is 5pm, i am not sure the EFL use deal sheets to delay deals
we def signed some after the window in the slav era whilst in championship. Martin for one albeit a lone, and def a right back who's name escapes me at the mo
Was the right back stoor?

Re Martin I though on that we got the paperwork in just be the Tim like 23:59 and a few seconds ds so to speak, think he said that as he was worries it wouldnt go thru

Probably wishes it hadn't now lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 10:57:27 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 10:54:10 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 09:34:45 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:44:17 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 08:41:57 AM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AM

Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...


8pm if you're in the UK!!


I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?

It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Sky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
youbalways get a few hours after window is shut to to actually finalise dont you. We've signed a few that went well past deadline, just need to get a certain bit of paper work in before 5
Yes that's correct but thought it was openly from prem clubs who submit a deal sheet.

Deadline is 5pm, i am not sure the EFL use deal sheets to delay deals
we def signed some after the window in the slav era whilst in championship. Martin for one albeit a lone, and def a right back who's name escapes me at the mo
Was the right back stoor?

Re Martin I though on that we got the paperwork in just be the Tim like 23:59 and a few seconds ds so to speak, think he said that as he was worries it wouldnt go thru

Probably wishes it hadn't now lol

its funny. i saw him after the newcastle game last season (last day of the season). he was going out with Betts, Mawson and KMac. they were getting a cab together and he was asked if he was coming back and he said "i'd love to but dont think they would have me". i think he realises he was on to a good thing with us. came accross as a really nice guy and was great with the kids
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 11:13:22 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 10:50:25 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 10:46:57 AM
Anyone know if josh the spurs player coming our way is any good?

He was very highly rated a couple of years ago but hasn't impressed at either Villa or Sheffield Wednesday. Remember he looked good in a game against us for Villa though. Hopefully Parker who will know him from his time at spurs will be able to get something out of him.

Not expecting a whole lot though.

Yesterday it was rumoured that Bruce at Newcastle was after him, he'd played under Bruce whilst at Villa and Wednesday and was highly rated by him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bencher on August 08, 2019, 11:20:23 AM
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on August 08, 2019, 10:40:52 AM
Fulham, Bristol City interested in Reid

Sky sources understand Bobby Reid could leave Cardiff City today was Bristol City and Fulham both interested in signing the attaching midfielder.

Yes please!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Now told talks between Spurs and Fulham over Ryan Sessegnon have hit an impasse. @MirrorFootball mirror.co.uk/sport/football...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 11:33:10 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 08, 2019, 11:20:23 AM
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on August 08, 2019, 10:40:52 AM
Fulham, Bristol City interested in Reid

Sky sources understand Bobby Reid could leave Cardiff City today was Bristol City and Fulham both interested in signing the attaching midfielder.

Yes please!

ive just been told "Yep he's turned down Bristol city n wants to join us" when i queried it.

have asked whats happening with the defence
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 11:33:10 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 08, 2019, 11:20:23 AM
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on August 08, 2019, 10:40:52 AM
Fulham, Bristol City interested in Reid

Sky sources understand Bobby Reid could leave Cardiff City today was Bristol City and Fulham both interested in signing the attaching midfielder.

Yes please!

ive just been told "Yep he's turned down Bristol city n wants to join us" when i queried it.

have asked whats happening with the defence
he would rather sit on the bench at us rather than start for city?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 11:35:14 AM
I wonder where Reid would fit into the team. Shouldn't be ahead of either Cairney or Mitro. Off the bench I guess.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Now told talks between Spurs and Fulham over Ryan Sessegnon have hit an impasse. @MirrorFootball mirror.co.uk/sport/football...

hes just arrived at spurs to start his medical according to sky. would be surprised if an "impasse" has been hit
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 11:36:45 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Now told talks between Spurs and Fulham over Ryan Sessegnon have hit an impasse. @MirrorFootball mirror.co.uk/sport/football...

hes just arrived at spurs to start his medical. would be surprised if an "impasse" has been hit

Mitro was doing his medical in Belgium when we signed him. Weirder things have happened.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 11:36:59 AM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Now told talks between Spurs and Fulham over Ryan Sessegnon have hit an impasse. @MirrorFootball mirror.co.uk/sport/football...

hes just arrived at spurs to start his medical according to sky. would be surprised if an "impasse" has been hit

Deal has already been agreed. Unless, TK has pulled a masterstroke and asked for another 5 mill last minute. Imagine the PR catastrophe for Spurs if they didnt get Sess now, they'd probably just pay it.

We all know Shahid is very astute and he is in town..
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 08, 2019, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Now told talks between Spurs and Fulham over Ryan Sessegnon have hit an impasse. @MirrorFootball mirror.co.uk/sport/football...

perhaps Josh wants to go to Newcastle and there a stumbling block about how much we see him worth and how much spurs see his worth  or Big Daddy Khan has said no we'll risk going for the big prize and lose him for nothing

that or Spurs are trying to cut the price saying there is something on the medical and we have told them testicles
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 11:35:14 AM
I wonder where Reid would fit into the team. Shouldn't be ahead of either Cairney or Mitro. Off the bench I guess.

Can he play CB?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 11:35:14 AM
I wonder where Reid would fit into the team. Shouldn't be ahead of either Cairney or Mitro. Off the bench I guess.

Can he play CB?

You beat me to it.😊
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bencher on August 08, 2019, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 11:35:14 AM
I wonder where Reid would fit into the team. Shouldn't be ahead of either Cairney or Mitro. Off the bench I guess.

Gives us different type of striker, off the shoulder and in behind. A much needed plan B
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳

We need a CB, and we end up with a striker who never scores.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: river phoenix on August 08, 2019, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳

We need a CB, and we end up with a striker who never scores.

He scored 19 goals last season in the Championship (2017/18).

Would be a good signing for this level. I obviously hope we sign a CB and a DM also.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 12:04:11 PM
So Reid would rather be backup here rather than start for city?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 12:04:20 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳

We need a CB, and we end up with a striker who never scores.


Scored more than most our forwards last season, and more than everyone the season before.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 12:05:52 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳

We need a CB, and we end up with a striker who never scores.


19 in 46 with 7 assists last time he was in the championship but he never scores? Okay.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 12:11:44 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 12:05:52 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳

We need a CB, and we end up with a striker who never scores.


19 in 46 with 7 assists last time he was in the championship but he never scores? Okay.

Two types of people in life to$$ers and the rest
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"

Source?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamfan on August 08, 2019, 12:14:23 PM
Jason Koumas has been spotted in a helicopter heading towards SW6
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"


same source that i reported from about knockaert, Cav and that reid has rejected Bristol City and wants to come to us
Source?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 12:16:06 PM
Our transfer windows are beginning to follow the same pattern. Absolutely no value attached to signing players in time for pre-season and little regard had to what we actually need. Just wait until deadline day and look for random bargains. Like Currys on black friday.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2019, 12:16:25 PM
5 wingers and a box to box midfielder probably
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: lomotd on August 08, 2019, 12:18:48 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"

Every window we sign at least one player on deadline day that flies totally under the radar with the media. Who is gonna surprise us today?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 08, 2019, 12:19:00 PM
I would not object to Bobby Reid joining us. We have absolutely nothing to lose. But if he could bring a Centre back with him also, that would be even better. Or at least point us in the right direction.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bencher on August 08, 2019, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 12:16:06 PM
Our transfer windows are beginning to follow the same pattern. Absolutely no value attached to signing players in time for pre-season and little regard had to what we actually need. Just wait until deadline day and look for random bargains like we're in Primark on boxing day.

If we do end up signing Reid, I would not agree that it is not what we need. It's been said many times over these last x weeks that we can't rely on Mitro being fit all season, and we also know that we lack a plan B striking option. Fonte has not worked out, AK is not the answer either. Obviously, we have to strengthen defence and DM as well, so let's see what transpires on that front.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on August 08, 2019, 12:20:13 PM
Anyone seen Carlton Cole and Jason Koumas today?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 08, 2019, 12:27:01 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 08, 2019, 12:20:13 PM
Anyone seen Carlton Cole and Jason Koumas today?

or someone resembling Emile Hesky hanging around Motspur ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 12:30:48 PM
Any news or rumours of anybody leaving us?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: humussapiens on August 08, 2019, 12:31:31 PM
According to reputable journalist Alan Nixon, Cardiff City attacker Bobby Reid could be set to re-join former club Bristol City before this afternoon's transfer deadline.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on August 08, 2019, 12:33:54 PM
Signing Reid allows us to go from 4-3-3 to 4-4-2 pretty quickly. Evidence of a plan B mindset.

However I do want someone defensive.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 12:35:51 PM
Quote from: bencher on August 08, 2019, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 12:16:06 PM
Our transfer windows are beginning to follow the same pattern. Absolutely no value attached to signing players in time for pre-season and little regard had to what we actually need. Just wait until deadline day and look for random bargains like we're in Primark on boxing day.

If we do end up signing Reid, I would not agree that it is not what we need. It's been said many times over these last x weeks that we can't rely on Mitro being fit all season, and we also know that we lack a plan B striking option. Fonte has not worked out, AK is not the answer either. Obviously, we have to strengthen defence and DM as well, so let's see what transpires on that front.

Bobby Reid is 5'7". He cannot play as a Mitrovic-type CF. We could change our tactics to suit him, but if we're going to do that, we could just as easily play Cavaliero or even Ayite in that role. In any case no one in their right mind would say we need this signing more than defenders and midfielders. In fact I'd even prefer a new GK. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jim© on August 08, 2019, 12:36:42 PM
or even 2-3-5. Inverted xmas tree!
We'll concede a few but may score a load too.

I'd like DM through the door, RB and GK.

Outs today? Fabri? Cisse? Fonte? O Reilly on loan?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tooting legend on August 08, 2019, 12:36:54 PM
Thats not what he said here......


Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Classic94 on August 08, 2019, 12:38:02 PM
Bobby Reid - great, but he isn't a CB...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: We Are Premier League on August 08, 2019, 12:47:02 PM
Harrison Reed from Saints? Cm but could potentially play as an attacking RB...

Why don't thye throw in Austin instead, instead of sending him to West Brom.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 12:48:01 PM
The "great can he play CB" is very quickly becoming a sh1t joke
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 08, 2019, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 12:16:06 PM
Our transfer windows are beginning to follow the same pattern. Absolutely no value attached to signing players in time for pre-season and little regard had to what we actually need. Just wait until deadline day and look for random bargains. Like Currys on black friday.

The problem isn't signing players on deadline day, the problem is we sell players before their replacements have been at the club for at least one window. Fulham should have a first team squad of at least 23 players, and at least 18 of those players should be at the club for at least four months (enough for the first matchday only to include players at the club last season). We should have kept Anguissa for at least one window, while Arter was integrating into the club.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ffc73 on August 08, 2019, 12:52:50 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?

Johanson replacement and, yes, we have other areas that need more urgent attention.

Maybe Johanson has been playing well at DM, CB or RB in training
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: HV71 on August 08, 2019, 12:54:28 PM
Do you think we are after both Reid and Reed -or has some journo overheard something and we have some rumour confusion. Of course I could be read  ing  too much into this....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 08, 2019, 12:54:31 PM
Quote from: FFC73 on August 08, 2019, 12:52:50 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?

Johanson replacement and, yes, we have other areas that need more urgent attention.

Maybe Johanson has been playing well at DM, CB or RB in training

It's obvious from 17/18, that we drop points every time Cairney didn't start. FFC need two AM.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 12:54:32 PM
Charlie Austen medical at W Brom.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 08, 2019, 01:05:15 PM
There is no rush to process the OUTS - the windows in the rest of Europe do not close until the end of the month - the urgency is only with players coming IN
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 01:09:57 PM
Drinkwater to Burnley.
Carroll back to Newcastle
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on August 08, 2019, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 01:09:57 PM
Drinkwater to Burnley.
Carroll back to Newcastle

Good business by both teams there.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFCFOREVER on August 08, 2019, 01:37:30 PM
Looking like Reid on his way to CC.As per SSN
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 01:38:05 PM

REID SET FOR FULHAM?

Sky sources understand Fulham is the more likely destination for Cardiff City midfielder Bobby Reid.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 01:38:57 PM
Reid, Besic and a CB and I'd be delighted. Even just the first two with the business already done would be a decent window imo

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 01:40:20 PM
Fulham are confident they have won the race Bobby Reid...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 01:44:49 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 01:40:20 PM
Fulham are confident they have won the race Bobby Reid...
its starting to feel like 2014 all over again. Top ending the squad with a p%ss poor defence
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?

We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tom_FFC on August 08, 2019, 01:53:39 PM
We haven't even been linked with a defender so I can only imagine the club feel what we got is sufficient.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 01:56:41 PM
I'm probably being thick, but why would Cardiff sell Reid to us (who they probably consider a direct rival?) after losing Zahore aswell? Isnt Reid their best player?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 01:56:49 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 01:44:49 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 01:40:20 PM
Fulham are confident they have won the race Bobby Reid...
its starting to feel like 2014 all over again. Top ending the squad with a p%ss poor defence

They score3, we score 4!

Have faith Ben, the window hasn't shut yet.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 01:57:37 PM
Quote from: Tom_FFC on August 08, 2019, 01:53:39 PM
We haven't even been linked with a defender so I can only imagine the club feel what we got is sufficient.

As others have pointed out. We have numbers there. Just not very good players. Secondly as somebody who doesn't think TK has done a bad job in bringing in players  since he took over. His defenders have been appalling bar one or maybe two. So I guess it is best not to get our hopes up even if one did come in.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 01:58:57 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
bulk? For all we know Reid may be it lol and done who knows
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 08, 2019, 01:59:53 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !

It's not only at Fulham is it otherwise Sky wouldn't make a whole day of it
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !

Like most other clubs!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?

We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.

Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:00:54 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 01:56:49 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 01:44:49 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 01:40:20 PM
Fulham are confident they have won the race Bobby Reid...
its starting to feel like 2014 all over again. Top ending the squad with a p%ss poor defence

They score3, we score 4!

Have faith Ben, the window hasn't shut yet.
except it didnt quite pan out like that. Felix got sacked and the stupid 5 man panel jumped the gun and recommended kit.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:01:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !

It is most certainly not only at Fulham, not even close.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?

We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.

Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?

His most played positions are i) Attacking midfielder, ii) central midfielder, iii) striker/second striker
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jims Dentist on August 08, 2019, 02:04:07 PM
Quote from: HV71 on August 08, 2019, 12:54:28 PM
Do you think we are after both Reid and Reed -or has some journo overheard something and we have some rumour confusion. Of course I could be read  ing  too much into this....
Just as likely that TK has got himself confused.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"

Are you able to name who are the others excluding Reid? Besic must be one of them, Harrison Reed rumoured to be another?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?

We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.

Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?

He's an AM also.

But we also need support for mitro. Just imagine if mitro gets injured - bobby scored 19 league goals in our promotion season
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 02:05:49 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"

Are you able to name who are the others excluding Reid? Besic must be one of them, Harrison Reed rumoured to be another?

Assume Onomah would be one of them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 02:05:49 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"

Are you able to name who are the others excluding Reid? Besic must be one of them, Harrison Reed rumoured to be another?

ive asked the question already. waiting on a reply
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?

We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.

Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?

His most played positions are i) Attacking midfielder, ii) central midfielder, iii) striker/second striker

Thanks, thats a much better outlook then, thought he was an out and out striker.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?

We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.

Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?

His most played positions are i) Attacking midfielder, ii) central midfielder, iii) striker/second striker

Thanks, thats a much better outlook then, thought he was an out and out striker.
I hope he isnt as his goal scoring record makes fonte look like messi by comparison
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 02:12:07 PM
Centre Half Scott McKenna of Aberdeen has had an offer for him from Sheffield Wednesday rejected. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?

We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.

Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?

His most played positions are i) Attacking midfielder, ii) central midfielder, iii) striker/second striker

Thanks, thats a much better outlook then, thought he was an out and out striker.
I hope he isnt as his goal scoring record makes fonte look like messi by comparison
He was never prolific until his final season at Bristol City, where he was on fire. His prem return for an AM was also pretty good

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 02:12:07 PM
Centre Half Scott McKenna of Aberdeen has had an offer for him from Sheffield Wednesday rejected. 

They're holding out for their valuation 7 million.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:16:02 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?

We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.

Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?

His most played positions are i) Attacking midfielder, ii) central midfielder, iii) striker/second striker

Thanks, thats a much better outlook then, thought he was an out and out striker.
I hope he isnt as his goal scoring record makes fonte look like messi by comparison
He was never prolific until his final season at Bristol City, where he was on fire. His prem return for an AM was also pretty good

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fair point. I only flicked through his states and saw 26 goals in 135 games for city. Didnt realise 19 of those came from his last season with them
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sir Craven on August 08, 2019, 02:18:28 PM
Finally a DF linked

https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-fulham-plot-late-swoop-for-huddersfield-town-25y-o-intl/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:25:24 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:10:58 PM
I hope he isnt as his goal scoring record makes fonte look like messi by comparison

I am not sure whether you are confusing Bobby Reid or Rui Fonte with someone else, but in any case I think you have someone confused here. Mind you, Fonte did score quite a few goals in the Portuguese second tire (what would that be, bottom half league one at best?).

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: Sir Craven on August 08, 2019, 02:18:28 PM
Finally a DF linked

https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-fulham-plot-late-swoop-for-huddersfield-town-25y-o-intl/
really?? Lol wouldn't get to happy lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment

In the Championship

BR: 110   25   12
RF: 37   3   5
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on August 08, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
He seemed to score against us so happy if we get him, process of elimination
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: Danitar on August 08, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
He seemed to score against us so happy if we get him, process of elimination
every man and his dog has scored against us.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment

As with so many statements on here, the above numbers are provided completely out of context.

Even if we pretend for the sake of your argument that the comparison is meaningful, how does this make Fonte look like Messi? Do you mean then that Reid looks like Ronaldo?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: snarks on August 08, 2019, 02:36:14 PM
Bugger,  Carter-Vickers to Stoke
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on August 08, 2019, 02:38:46 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: Danitar on August 08, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
He seemed to score against us so happy if we get him, process of elimination
every man and his dog has scored against us.
Haha true but i think he will be a good signing and has more energy than mitrovic so gives us another option
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 02:39:42 PM
if we get him, poor Jim is going to have a terrible time pronouncing Florent Hadergjonaj :005:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 02:39:42 PM
if we get him, poor Jim is going to have a terrible time pronouncing Florent Hadergjonaj :005:
mate if we get him Jim wont need to pronounce his name hes no good lol shouldn't play
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: Danitar on August 08, 2019, 02:38:46 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: Danitar on August 08, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
He seemed to score against us so happy if we get him, process of elimination
every man and his dog has scored against us.
Haha true but i think he will be a good signing and has more energy than mitrovic so gives us another option
yep, could be great. After last season I will never make a statement on arrivals until after I've seen them play for us. And also this rumour seems to have peed off the Cardiff fans alot so that's another added bonus
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment

One of them is an attacking midfielder who can also play up front and the other is a striker for his whole career so some context is definitely needed 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 08, 2019, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !

Exactly all the other clubs CEO's went out to play a round of golf followed by a good lunch - it is only TK who is running round trying to find players to sign
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment

One of them is an attacking midfielder who can also play up front and the other is a striker for his whole career so some context is definitely needed 
the context was there further up the board, when I stated that i hope he isnt out and out as stats arent that great
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 02:54:08 PM
Quote from: snarks on August 08, 2019, 02:36:14 PM
Bugger,  Carter-Vickers to Stoke
He should have been part of the Sess deal & not Onomah
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 02:54:17 PM
Carter Vickers Spuds defender to Stoke on loan is confirmed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 02:57:16 PM
McKenna in the Aberdeen side for their game in
Croatia shortly..
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ScalleysDad on August 08, 2019, 02:58:06 PM
Looks like all the movement is midfield, attacking midfield and wide midfield. Perhaps SP has seen that his back line could work if they were not under seige all the time. TC might be captain but I can see him losing out on a few games if this midfield influx continues.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 03:00:23 PM
#Everton are looking at a last-minute deal for Mo Besic to go on loan to #SheffieldUnited or #Fulham but time ticking on getting a deal done @SunSport
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
2 hours

FFS

Even if we are negotiating a load of cracking deals, we are running such a high risk of them collapsing at this stage

Idiocy to leave first XI signings until deadline day
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on August 08, 2019, 03:03:22 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
No, clubs forums I've looked at all have a small number of posters moaning about how crap their club is at getting players in. Just looked at another, Saints to see what they thought of Reid. Quite a few posters like you moaning about their club.

So, it def is not just at Fulham
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on August 08, 2019, 03:03:32 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on August 08, 2019, 02:58:06 PM
Looks like all the movement is midfield, attacking midfield and wide midfield. Perhaps SP has seen that his back line could work if they were not under seige all the time. TC might be captain but I can see him losing out on a few games if this midfield influx continues.


And I do not think that is a bad thing. I feel he is to comfortable in his position, he is a good player but only I feel when he has time to play. He is not a dig in and make something happen player. Not a popular opinion I know but I feel he will let those of you who give him an essential player status down. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 03:00:23 PM
#Everton are looking at a last-minute deal for Mo Besic to go on loan to #SheffieldUnited or #Fulham but time ticking on getting a deal done @SunSport
from a 2m deal to a loan lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on August 08, 2019, 03:08:55 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
2 hours

FFS

Even if we are negotiating a load of cracking deals, we are running such a high risk of them collapsing at this stage

Idiocy to leave first XI signings until deadline day
Can't believe this, with less than a couple of hours to go and there seems to be a few birds in our bush but not one in our hand.
We are in danger of getting no one today and an unhappy Sess. still being with us until Christmas.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:10:18 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 08, 2019, 03:03:22 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
No, clubs forums I've looked at all have a small number of posters moaning about how crap their club is at getting players in. Just looked at another, Saints to see what they thought of Reid. Quite a few posters like you moaning about their club.

So, it def is not just at Fulham

But it is statistically worse at Fulham. We sign a higher proportion of players later than the average club
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 03:08:55 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
2 hours

FFS

Even if we are negotiating a load of cracking deals, we are running such a high risk of them collapsing at this stage

Idiocy to leave first XI signings until deadline day
Can't believe this, with less than a couple of hours to go and there seems to be a few birds in our bush but not one in our hand.
We are in danger of getting no one today and an unhappy Sess. still being with us until Christmas.

Sess has gone...Done n dusted.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: brightster on August 08, 2019, 03:15:46 PM
Things might start to move now:
Ryan Sessegnon transfer from Fulham to Tottenham is COMPLETED. Five-year deal with option for club to extend.
From Sam Wallace (Telegraph)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2019, 03:15:46 PM
Things might start to move now:
Ryan Sessegnon transfer from Fulham to Tottenham is COMPLETED. Five-year deal with option for club to extend.
From Sam Wallace (Telegraph)

Let the transfers roll in  067.gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 08, 2019, 03:18:34 PM
Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2019, 03:15:46 PM
Things might start to move now:
Ryan Sessegnon transfer from Fulham to Tottenham is COMPLETED. Five-year deal with option for club to extend.
From Sam Wallace (Telegraph)
don't hold your breath!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
sess gone, some money now freed up to get other deals done, did we get onomah in the sess deal?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 03:20:00 PM
I was really hoping for a nice top drawer signing today,but that birdie has flown...
Can't believe we didn't go for McKenna or another CB.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
sess gone, some money now freed up to get other deals done, did we get onomah in the sess deal?
who cares lol he wont play and even if he did come we still need buys, but I think he did come
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 03:21:39 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
2 hours

FFS

Even if we are negotiating a load of cracking deals, we are running such a high risk of them collapsing at this stage

Idiocy to leave first XI signings until deadline day

Yeah they probably did it for a laugh pal
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 03:21:52 PM
25m rising to 30m for someone who has less than 12 months left on their contract and hasn't actually shown that they'll necessarily live up to their hype at the top level is pretty good going all things considered
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 03:24:00 PM
Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
sess gone, some money now freed up to get other deals done, did we get onomah in the sess deal?
who cares lol he wont play and even if he did come we still need buys, but I think he did come

lol i was kust trying to see how much we had been screwed thats all  :dft011:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 08, 2019, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 03:21:52 PM
25m rising to 30m for someone who has less than 12 months left on their contract and hasn't actually shown that they'll necessarily live up to their hype at the top level is pretty good going all things considered
Agreed, but lets hope that 25M is to pay for Cavaleiro and Knockheart and NOT for other signings.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 08, 2019, 03:25:59 PM
@MirrorDarren
Josh Onomah has gone the other way to Fulham. Three year deal, one year option. @MirrorFootball
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 03:27:20 PM
Activity at Motspur,Reid or another maybe?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 03:32:05 PM
On Sky - Chris Wilder says Sheffield United are "close" to signing a central midfielder.


Besic?


Aaron Mooy set to sign for Brighton. Unfortunately Mooy is a player that slipped through TK's net before he went to Huddersfield.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 03:35:46 PM
#SheffieldUnited and #FulhamFC in for midfielder Mo Besic. Unconfirmed if this holding it up the below or whether #FFC want both? #DeadineDay skysports.com/transfer-centre
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 03:36:40 PM
BLADES, FULHAM CHASE BESIC

Sheffield United and Fulham are trying to land Everton midfielder Muhamed Besic, according to Sky sources.

Sky Sports News understands the 26-year-old Bosnia international would prefer to remain in the Premier League if possible.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:39:23 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 03:21:39 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
2 hours

FFS

Even if we are negotiating a load of cracking deals, we are running such a high risk of them collapsing at this stage

Idiocy to leave first XI signings until deadline day

Yeah they probably did it for a laugh pal
what's your point pal?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 08, 2019, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 03:36:40 PM
BLADES, FULHAM CHASE BESIC

Sheffield United and Fulham are trying to land Everton midfielder Muhamed Besic, according to Sky sources.

Sky Sports News understands the 26-year-old Bosnia international would prefer to remain in the Premier League if possible.

What about Amartey? 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mullers OG on August 08, 2019, 03:44:26 PM
Any news on a new centre back or a new right back?

FFC seem to be collecting wingers and attacking midfielders. Did the owners or management watch last season?  Improvements are badly needed in the centre of the defence and above all at right back where we have never properly replaced Fredericks.  Defensive midfield could do with an upgrade as well.

90 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 03:46:14 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 08, 2019, 03:44:26 PM
Any news on a new centre back or a new right back?

FFC seem to be collecting wingers and attacking midfielders. Did the owners or management watch last season?  Improvements are badly needed in the centre of the defence and above all at right back where we have never properly replaced Fredericks.  Defensive midfield could do with an upgrade as well.

90 minutes to go.

Rumour about Florent Hadergjonaj of Huddersfield.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 03:49:23 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 03:46:14 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 08, 2019, 03:44:26 PM
Any news on a new centre back or a new right back?

FFC seem to be collecting wingers and attacking midfielders. Did the owners or management watch last season?  Improvements are badly needed in the centre of the defence and above all at right back where we have never properly replaced Fredericks.  Defensive midfield could do with an upgrade as well.

90 minutes to go.



Rumour about Florent Hadergjonaj of Huddersfield.

Hope not or some kind of decoy
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 03:57:45 PM
Ian Dennis on twitter saying we are not in for Besic trying for Reed from SOuthampton and Reid from Cardiff
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 08, 2019, 04:00:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 03:57:45 PM
Ian Dennis on twitter saying we are not in for Besic trying for Reed from SOuthampton and Reid from Cardiff

Don't get why we're not going for defensive players.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:00:42 PM
Apparently according to sky Sess move not announced as yet as Onomah not completed his move to us yet
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 08, 2019, 04:00:50 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 03:27:20 PM
Activity at Motspur,Reid or another maybe?

Are you at MP Mince ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 04:02:12 PM
Fulham trying to sign Bobby Reid from Cardiff City. Harrison Reed from Southampton is a possible but Fulham are not in for Mo Besic. #FFC
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 08, 2019, 04:00:50 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 03:27:20 PM
Activity at Motspur,Reid or another maybe?

Are you at MP Mince ?

Thought you were bringing me an ice cream..lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamfan on August 08, 2019, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 03:27:20 PM
Activity at Motspur,Reid or another maybe?
Quote from: twang on August 08, 2019, 03:25:59 PM
@MirrorDarren
Josh Onomah has gone the other way to Fulham. Three year deal, one year option. @MirrorFootball
cant see anything anywhere else
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 04:09:27 PM
Onamah at Motspur now apparently.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 04:10:47 PM
All I really care about now is a CB. Onomah isn't worth getting excited about imo
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Camel Club on August 08, 2019, 04:11:15 PM
Besic is still a possibility according to SSN although Sheffield United are also in for him. Reid would also be a good signing but I am becoming increasingly worried, with only an hour of the window to go, that we have overestimated the quality/depth of our defensive unit whilst simultaneously underestimating the quality of Championship forwards.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 04:12:54 PM
Think there might be surprise yet,or am I dreaming.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 04:13:09 PM
a starting DM and CB are surely a must before the window closes, and it doesnt look like either is going to happen.

Thats shocking
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: lomotd on August 08, 2019, 04:14:19 PM
Prediction: Fulham will sign a player today that hasn't been mentioned in this whole thread.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:14:26 PM
Birkir Bjarnason been released by villa,  wonder if any champ clubs will sign him up?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 04:17:25 PM
Quote from: lomotd on August 08, 2019, 04:14:19 PM
Prediction: Fulham will sign a player today that hasn't been mentioned in this whole thread.

Great prediction - I'm saying he will Be French or playing in the France
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:18:19 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on August 08, 2019, 04:11:15 PM
Besic is still a possibility according to SSN although Sheffield United are also in for him. Reid would also be a good signing but I am becoming increasingly worried, with only an hour of the window to go, that we have overestimated the quality/depth of our defensive unit whilst simultaneously underestimating the quality of Championship forwards.
Ian Dennis (think he is BBC) saying we are not in for him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on August 08, 2019, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 04:12:54 PM
Think there might be surprise yet,or am I dreaming.
Just 45 minutes left to complete that dream, you must let us all know how it ended because it looks to me as if we are going to have no change in our existing back four options.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:18:19 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on August 08, 2019, 04:11:15 PM
Besic is still a possibility according to SSN although Sheffield United are also in for him. Reid would also be a good signing but I am becoming increasingly worried, with only an hour of the window to go, that we have overestimated the quality/depth of our defensive unit whilst simultaneously underestimating the quality of Championship forwards.
Ian Dennis (think he is BBC) saying we are not in for him

we are 100% in for him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:20:54 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:18:19 PM
Quote from: Camel Club on August 08, 2019, 04:11:15 PM
Besic is still a possibility according to SSN although Sheffield United are also in for him. Reid would also be a good signing but I am becoming increasingly worried, with only an hour of the window to go, that we have overestimated the quality/depth of our defensive unit whilst simultaneously underestimating the quality of Championship forwards.
Ian Dennis (think he is BBC) saying we are not in for him

we are 100% in for him
Just saying what the BBC guy has tweeted out. Not in for him but are for Reid and Reed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 04:21:30 PM
Before everyone panics and starts bitching at 17:00, you can have an extension till 18:00
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 04:22:13 PM
Picture of Sess holding a Spurs shirt on twitter so assuming its completed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 04:23:25 PM
Few on twitter saying we are back in for hector
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 04:21:30 PM
Before everyone panics and starts bitching at 17:00, you can have an extension till 18:00

That want make a difference if we're not signing
anyone.😵
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 08, 2019, 04:24:02 PM
39 minutes! no mention of a RB or CB and we still need back up for Mitro
:dead horse:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 04:21:30 PM
Before everyone panics and starts bitching at 17:00, you can have an extension till 18:00
think its only the premier league that do. So if the deal is with a prem club it can be extended. Not sure (say 50/50) that the EFL don't do deal sheets to extend the time frame
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:25:20 PM
Ive turned sky transfer deadline show off for two reasons, one Jim White thins its all about him and two I cannot believe we are not addressing what are the obvious issues
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: davew on August 08, 2019, 04:28:40 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 04:10:47 PM
All I really care about now is a CB. Onomah isn't worth getting excited about imo
Yes a CB, what about a right back, another midfielder and maybe even a goalkeeper?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamfan on August 08, 2019, 04:29:51 PM
who needs a new CB when we have Djalo!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 04:33:21 PM
R Sess has got a 5 year deal. In August 2024 we can get him back for nothing to resurrect his career.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 08, 2019, 04:35:12 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 04:33:21 PM
R Sess has got a 5 year deal. In August 2024 we can get him back for nothing to resurrect his career.

They'll opt for theb1 year extension and want 60m for him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 04:40:43 PM
So this is the last 20 minutes of Sess being a fulham player. I'm not crying, you're crying!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 04:42:27 PM
Just unfollowed R Sess from Twitter.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 04:45:50 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:25:20 PM
Ive turned sky transfer deadline show off for two reasons, one Jim White thins its all about him and two I cannot believe we are not addressing what are the obvious issues

Yes Jim White is a pain in the .........
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on August 08, 2019, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif

Its looking that way
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 04:47:36 PM
Bobby Reid done as a loan by all account s
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Toby Ward-Smith on August 08, 2019, 04:48:12 PM
Cardiff have just announced Striker, Vassel from Birmingham meaning Reid must be imminent
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:48:32 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 08, 2019, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif

Its looking that way

it certainly is,  linked to so many but no announcements with 10 mins to go is very concerning
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rambler on August 08, 2019, 04:49:19 PM
This has been a miserable day.
Why do we always wait for that bargain bucket deal on deadline day. It's just a terrible way to do business.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 04:49:34 PM
We've been linked with a flurry of signings today, and worth the hour extention including deal sheets, I expect to see at least 1 or 2 (excluding Onomah) come through the door.

Let's wait until 6pm before getting the pitchforks out yeah?

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on August 08, 2019, 04:50:32 PM
No one else coming in,look at the offal, picture 48 Shaad telling Scottie, no defenders, picture 51 telling him he means it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bokonon on August 08, 2019, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 04:49:34 PM
Let's wait until 6pm before getting the pitchforks out yeah?

I'll have you know I never put my pitchfork away to begin with!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 04:54:02 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 04:49:34 PM
We've been linked with a flurry of signings today, and worth the hour extention including deal sheets, I expect to see at least 1 or 2 (excluding Onomah) come through the door.

Let's wait until 6pm before getting the pitchforks out yeah?

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk



Spot on
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Fulham Tup North on August 08, 2019, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 04:42:27 PM
Just unfollowed R Sess from Twitter.
He is my screen saver on my phone.... Sad day really :(
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:48:32 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 08, 2019, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif

Its looking that way

it certainly is,  linked to so many but no announcements with 10 mins to go is very concerning

Last summer on deadline day we literally announced everyone after the window closed so what's the rush? As long as the paperwork is done it doesn't matter when we announce them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 04:56:24 PM
Reid on his way in from Cardiff.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:48:32 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 08, 2019, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif

Its looking that way

it certainly is,  linked to so many but no announcements with 10 mins to go is very concerning

Last summer on deadline day we literally announced everyone after the window closed so what's the rush? As long as the paperwork is done it doesn't matter when we announce them.

I think the point was more about whether we would actually sign anyone this window, rather than semantics on timing announcements.....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: elgreenio on August 08, 2019, 04:57:06 PM
Imagine we'll sign one or two but whoever we sign wont be a difference maker, and nor should they really be if we're leaving it this late in the day.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:58:40 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:48:32 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 08, 2019, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif

Its looking that way

it certainly is,  linked to so many but no announcements with 10 mins to go is very concerning

Last summer on deadline day we literally announced everyone after the window closed so what's the rush? As long as the paperwork is done it doesn't matter when we announce them.

it will be 2am here when the window shuts i would like to know whose in  before i go to bed :dft011:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 04:58:50 PM
Quote from: elgreenio on August 08, 2019, 04:57:06 PM
Imagine we'll sign one or two but whoever we sign wont be a difference maker, and nor should they really be if we're leaving it this late in the day.



Mitro was though so you never know
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:00:40 PM
Its 5pm, where are my players!!!? Moan moan moan. Stfu!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 05:00:56 PM
I can already see AM's explanation to the FST. There were no defenders available at good prices so rather than overpaying, we took the opportunity to bring in some competitively priced attackers.

That would be fine if you were on the Football Index stock market app Alastair but not if you're trying to build a real life, functioning football team.

FFS can we put someone with basic football knowledge in charge of transfers, not an £800k pa glorified account and Richy Rich the chairman's son.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 05:01:21 PM
Josh Onomah has sealed his move to Fulham from Tottenham as part of Ryan Sessegnon's switch to Spurs. #THFC #ffc #DeadlineDay
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 05:02:43 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:00:40 PM
Its 5pm, where are my players!!!? Moan moan moan. Stfu!

Maybe you should take a 30 minute break as well buddy.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 08, 2019, 05:03:46 PM
Nottingham Forest sign Spanish defender Chema from Levante for an undisclosed fee.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
Chema Rodriguez, who we were linked with earlier has signed for Nottingham Forest.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 08, 2019, 05:06:14 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 05:00:56 PM
I can already see AM's explanation to the FST. There were no defenders available at good prices so rather than overpaying, we took the opportunity to bring in some competitively priced attackers.

That would be fine if you were on the Football Index stock market app Alastair but not if you're trying to build a real life, functioning football team.

FFS can we put someone with basic football knowledge in charge of transfers, not an £800k pa glorified account and Richy Rich the chairman's son.
seconded.
and thats not a knee jerk reaction. ITS COMMON SENSE!!!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 05:06:44 PM
Jacob Murphy, who we were also linked with earlier in the window has signed for Sheffield Wednesday on loan.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for  formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
Chema Rodriguez, who we were linked with earlier has signed for Nottingham Forest.

Yes but everyone moaned about him being Spanish and playing in there second tier so tk called it off
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Toby Ward-Smith on August 08, 2019, 05:08:07 PM
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for  formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.

If we got a deal sheet in, I believe we have until 7
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 05:08:34 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
Chema Rodriguez, who we were linked with earlier has signed for Nottingham Forest.

Yes but everyone moaned about him being Spanish and playing in there second tier so tk called it off

Watch him make the team of the season now and get sold next summer for 25m
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 05:08:36 PM
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for  formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.

Fingers crossed, but I can't see it happening.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on August 08, 2019, 05:10:03 PM
TBH although I do not particularly like the way we do business in the transfer windows. Credit where it's due to get25mill rising to 30 for Sess and Onomah the other way was a good bit of business.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Moltobueno on August 08, 2019, 05:10:21 PM
Drinkwater to Burnley
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:11:07 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 05:02:43 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:00:40 PM
Its 5pm, where are my players!!!? Moan moan moan. Stfu!

Maybe you should take a 30 minute break as well buddy.

Could be a good idea. Wouldn't need to though if it was possible to mute the doom-mongers
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for  formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.

Up to 7 apparently
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 05:13:28 PM
I hope TK didn´t think that the window closes at 5pm Florida time & that there is still 5 hours to go.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 05:15:15 PM
Benik Afobe has joined Bristol City, so I assume Reid didnt go back there
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:15:22 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 05:13:28 PM
I hope TK didn´t think that the window closes at 5pm Florida time & that there is still 5 hours to go.

Haha that's quite funny
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: elgreenio on August 08, 2019, 05:16:49 PM
Forest signed Chema from Levante, we were linked to him earlier in the summer
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:19:59 PM
6 deal sheets submitted, hopefully some of those relate to us :dft012:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:20:03 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 05:15:15 PM
Benik Afobe has joined Bristol City, so I assume Reid didnt go back there

Afobe has had more clubs in the last few transfer windows then rory mcilroy
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:19:59 PM
6 deal sheets submitted, hopefully some of those relate tp us :dft012:
Believe that's just PL, not EFL

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:19:59 PM
6 deal sheets submitted, hopefully some of those relate tp us :dft012:
Believe that's just PL, not EFL

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
correct just the prem
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:19:59 PM
6 deal sheets submitted, hopefully some of those relate tp us :dft012:
Believe that's just PL, not EFL

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk



That's correct
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:22:32 PM
spurs announce celso,   hopefully fulham announcement soon
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 05:23:42 PM
Wales Online 17-16 Cardiff sell Reid to Fulham
in 10 million deal.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:23:53 PM
Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:19:59 PM
6 deal sheets submitted, hopefully some of those relate tp us :dft012:
Believe that's just PL, not EFL

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
correct just the prem

oh i see  :023:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 08, 2019, 05:25:14 PM
Did they remember to book a photographer and have someone in the IT department to stay late ?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for  formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.

Up to 7 apparently
From what i have been told you only have the extension if your doing a deal with a prem club not between EFL clubs.

Deals can be done but not announced till later, they could be waiting for final bits and pieces etc, quite standard form what I was told earlier
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: brightster on August 08, 2019, 05:29:17 PM
Besic deal in with FA but it's with Sheff Utd, wants prem footie!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:31:40 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for  formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.

Up to 7 apparently
From what i have been told you only have the extension if your doing a deal with a prem club not between EFL clubs.

Deals can be done but not announced till later, they could be waiting for final bits and pieces etc, quite standard form what I was told earlier

Sky reporter said on Twitter its till 7 for efl too
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:31:40 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for  formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.

Up to 7 apparently
From what i have been told you only have the extension if your doing a deal with a prem club not between EFL clubs.

Deals can be done but not announced till later, they could be waiting for final bits and pieces etc, quite standard form what I was told earlier

Sky reporter said on Twitter its till 7 for efl too
I was rewarding on the EFL website about this and they don't state they do that, also told be a reliable source they have never done it unless between a prem club and an EFL club. To be fair its al so confusing these days, worth multiple window closings and different rules in England for different divisions. It's a complete joke
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 05:35:34 PM
Hector staying with Chelsea. Chelsea Journo posted.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 05:35:34 PM
Hector staying with Chelsea. Chelsea Journo posted.

FFS.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 05:40:13 PM
So all in all our defence is a shite as ever. Wait for the excuses from TK. There were loads of CB´s & FB´s available. The FST should demand answers why we have failed to address the defensive failings.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:41:26 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 05:40:13 PM
So all in all our defence is a shite as ever. Wait for the excuses from TK. There were loads of CB´s & FB´s available. The FST should demand answers why we have failed to address the defensive failings.

Do we know for sure we haven't got a defender in?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 05:42:47 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:41:26 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 05:40:13 PM
So all in all our defence is a shite as ever. Wait for the excuses from TK. There were loads of CB´s & FB´s available. The FST should demand answers why we have failed to address the defensive failings.

Do we know for sure we haven't got a defender in?

Who,come on don't keep it a secret.😉
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 05:45:08 PM
Tony Kahn today:

https://media.giphy.com/media/26ufnwz3wDUli7GU0/giphy.gif (https://media.giphy.com/media/26ufnwz3wDUli7GU0/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 05:45:14 PM
Sheffield United getting deal sorted for Mo Besic, having beaten Fulham to a deal with Everton.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 05:46:47 PM
If we have purchased a defender then we've kept it bloody quiet
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 05:46:47 PM
If we have purchased a defender then we've kept it bloody quiet

So true, but there is no new defender. Only the guy from Cardiff.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 05:49:44 PM
So it's official
Sess gone
What's his face make weight in
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 05:50:26 PM
Onomah signs.


http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/august/08/fulham-sign-josh-onomah
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:50:56 PM
sess  out onomah in finally confirmed, now announce the others!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals

Don't think that's true.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ScalleysDad on August 08, 2019, 05:53:42 PM
As has been said before perhaps Scott Parker, an industrious midfielder himself, thinks bulking up the midfield options to have plans B,C and D to hand will in itself defend the defence.

That and in a needy sort of way I just wanted 4000 posts!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on August 08, 2019, 05:53:58 PM
Well, It's not looking good and if indeed we haven't strengthened in defence I'll be the first to call that out as very poor from Tony. If Reid has joined us, our attacking options are unbelievably good for this league. But if we don't have the strength in defensive midfield/defence then will that attack be all for nothing if we have no strong base to build from?

Sitting tight but genuinely baffled if we've failed to do the business we should have. I know the Sess transfer has clearly what we were waiting on but a real f up if what we wanted as a result of that hasn't materialised. At least it looks like Steven isn't with Ryan in the photo with his shirt so perhaps we've held on to him. He better make that RB his own then or we're stuck with Christie til January at least!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals

Don't think that's true.

Only l1 and l2 can get loan players in
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 05:55:23 PM
Knowing Fulham we'll announce signings at 2am when we've all gone to bed.😊
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on August 08, 2019, 05:56:21 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals

Don't think that's true.

Only l1 and l2 can get loan players in


We will be league one next season at this rate lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 05:56:39 PM
Club will let the mist of sess going fall disappear and then bam 4 signings
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 05:56:48 PM
Cardiff Jouno said Reid costs 10 million gone to Fulham.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on August 08, 2019, 06:00:20 PM
Rhys Daly


@RhysDalySport
47m47 minutes ago
More
Bobby Reid to Fulham looking good, looks like a deal that could cost the club more than £10million.

Didn't work out for him at Cardiff but was very impressive at Bristol City. #FFC
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 08, 2019, 06:02:44 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 05:56:39 PM
Club will let the mist of sess going fall disappear and then bam 4 signings
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 05:46:47 PM
If we have purchased a defender then we've kept it bloody quiet

So true, but there is no new defender. Only the guy from Cardiff.

We've  only let 1 in this season dont worry
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: filham on August 08, 2019, 06:06:19 PM
The Sess./Onomah deal now on the OFFAL, is there anymore to come I wonder, Ried from Cardiff is that definite.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Captain Fulhamerica on August 08, 2019, 06:11:31 PM
So we're really going to get through this window without signing a single defender?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2019, 06:14:22 PM
I cant believe we did not sign a centre back. Cannot believe it
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Matt10 on August 08, 2019, 06:14:54 PM
Forgot that Onomah knows Parker and Wells already. That's going to be interesting overall. Looking forward to seeing how he gets into the squad. Do not know much about him tbh, but excited for a new player.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 06:15:22 PM
Quote from: Fulhammy on August 08, 2019, 06:11:31 PM
So we're really going to get through this window without signing a single defender?

looking more and more likely 1500.gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Classic94 on August 08, 2019, 06:16:42 PM
Astonished that we're not signing a single defender. Literally speechless.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 06:19:05 PM
Bobby Ried is done. Fulham PR just doing there thing atm. £10m #FFC
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sir Craven on August 08, 2019, 06:24:16 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 06:19:05 PM
Bobby Ried is done. Fulham PR just doing there thing atm. £10m #FFC

Probably trying to come up with a pun. REID-iculous?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on August 08, 2019, 06:25:28 PM
I wish I could say I'm shocked that we haven't signed a RB+CB but I've long since realised that our head of recruitment isn't qualified for the job and utterly clueless.

We should have a good enough squad to (hopefully) avoid relegation but I think mid table is far more realistic than playoffs.

This is the first season EVER that I'm not really looking forward to. The whole TK situation is ruining everything for me. WTF how can we STILL have the owners son as our DoF??? I think I better stay away from this forum for the foreseeable future. See you all again when I've had a couple of months to calm down...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Reid was completed around 4:30
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: f321ffc on August 08, 2019, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Sir Craven on August 08, 2019, 06:24:16 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 06:19:05 PM
Bobby Ried is done. Fulham PR just doing there thing atm. £10m #FFC

Probably trying to come up with a pun. REID-iculous?
Reid all about it?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 06:28:13 PM
I'm not that bothered about RB, as We have Christie/ SSess and Fossey.

DM and CB are a huge worry. Especially DM for me
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:29:02 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals

Don't think that's true.

Only l1 and l2 can get loan players in
L1 and L2 can sign players until 2nd of September i think
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 06:31:17 PM
Half an hour to go before we know for sure about the final signings. But We have hardly had a great history of signing defenders recently. We have quite a few at the moment, none of whom are good. So makes sense not to try and waste a good shirt on a defender that just doesn't act up to his job description.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 06:33:23 PM
Nahki Well joins QPR

Barnsley have signed Leeds United left-back Clarke Oduor for an undisclosed fee on a four-year deal.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 06:31:17 PM
Half an hour to go before we know for sure about the final signings. But We have hardly had a great history of signing defenders recently. We have quite a few at the moment, none of whom are good. So makes sense not to try and waste a good shirt on a defender that just doesn't act up to his job description.
We don't have to announce anything before any time can announce them at midnight i guess.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rambler on August 08, 2019, 06:34:31 PM
Are we really about to waste 10 of the 25 mil we got for Sessegnon on bobby Reid. My god our DoF has gone frankly insane. I wonder when we got relegated back in April/May when Shad khan explicitly said this would give us time to identify targets and make sensible decisions that this would be the situation we're in now. Utterly ridiculous. Where the hell is our DM and RB and RCB? 3 key positions completely infilled. I agree with another poster DM is our biggest worry, McDonald is just so immobile now. He's long past it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 06:31:17 PM
Half an hour to go before we know for sure about the final signings. But We have hardly had a great history of signing defenders recently. We have quite a few at the moment, none of whom are good. So makes sense not to try and waste a good shirt on a defender that just doesn't act up to his job description.
We don't have to announce anything before any time can announce them at midnight i guess.

Yes we just have get the paperwork in but we  could keep it a secret and not announce it. Mind you with a few players we have had over the years that makes sense.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:35:27 PM
Quote from: Rambler on August 08, 2019, 06:34:31 PM
Are we really about to waste 10 of the 25 mil we got for Sessegnon on bobby Reid. My god our DoF has gone frankly insane. I wonder when we got relegated back in April/May when Shad khan explicitly said this would give us time to identify targets and make sensible decisions that this would be the situation we're in now. Utterly ridiculous. Where the hell is our DM and RB and RCB? 3 key positions completely infilled. I agree with another poster DM is our biggest worry, McDonald is just so immobile now. He's long past it.
Maybe Parker wanted him?

I cant believe we have not signed a right sided centre back either
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 06:37:40 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:29:02 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals

Don't think that's true.

Only l1 and l2 can get loan players in
L1 and L2 can sign players until 2nd of September i think

L1 and L2 can sign including purchase players until 2nd September but the way it reads Championship teams can loan players for another 7 days. May be wrong but that's the way it reads on more than one website
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:39:23 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 06:37:40 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:29:02 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals

Don't think that's true.

Only l1 and l2 can get loan players in
L1 and L2 can sign players until 2nd of September i think

L1 and L2 can sign including purchase players until 2nd September but the way it reads Championship teams can loan players for another 7 days. May be wrong but that's the way it reads on more than one website
I was referring to their only l1 and l2 players can loan someone

I don't think we need anymore loans personally
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 06:44:42 PM
Signing Bobby Reid is far from a waste of money. He has always terrorized us when playing against us. However what is unforgivable is TK´s unbelievable failure to address our defensive failings. There were many CB´s, RB´s & DM´s available which other clubs were able to sign. Can´t wait for his excuses.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
Alan Nixon

Still a few to be unveiled ...

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 06:45:16 PM
A quote from the BBC website on transfers;

"Premier League clubs can still sell players to other leagues after their voluntary deadline of 8th August but cannot bring anybody in to replace them past that point."


Maybe still hope for Hector?!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 06:46:31 PM
Sheff Wed sign David Bates.
Great player.

Just what we need.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 06:45:16 PM
A quote from the BBC website on transfers;

"Premier League clubs can still sell players to other leagues after their voluntary deadline of 8th August but cannot bring anybody in to replace them past that point."


Maybe still hope for Hector?!
He means abroad
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 06:49:39 PM
Why the f**k didnt we insist on Cameron Carter Vickers as part of the Sessegnon deal, makes no sense.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
And another (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/f63c11e2aec10238d590c5b2f1222c3c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 06:53:36 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
Alan Nixon

Still a few to be unveiled ...

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Assistant tea Lady from Wimbledon.👱
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 06:56:07 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 06:53:36 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
Alan Nixon

Still a few to be unveiled ...

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Assistant tea Lady from Wimbledon.👱

Never drop your jokes, your the guy who just keeps on giving
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 06:57:12 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
And another (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/f63c11e2aec10238d590c5b2f1222c3c.jpg)

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hope not
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:57:33 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 06:53:36 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
Alan Nixon

Still a few to be unveiled ...

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Assistant tea Lady from Wimbledon.👱
Never stops being funny  :012:
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 06:58:08 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 06:53:36 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
Alan Nixon

Still a few to be unveiled ...

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Assistant tea Lady from Wimbledon.👱

knowing us,  we got her on  a season long loan with an option to buy 064.gif
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 07:00:26 PM
Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 06:57:12 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
And another (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/f63c11e2aec10238d590c5b2f1222c3c.jpg)

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hope not

20.46 today. It's only 19.00 now. Someone taking the Michael
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 06:58:08 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 06:53:36 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
Alan Nixon

Still a few to be unveiled ...

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Assistant tea Lady from Wimbledon.👱

knowing us,  we got her on  a season long loan with an option to buy 064.gif

👍
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 07:02:14 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 07:00:26 PM
Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 06:57:12 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
And another (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/f63c11e2aec10238d590c5b2f1222c3c.jpg)

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hope not

20.46 today. It's only 19.00 now. Someone taking the Michael
different country? Lol
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 07:02:47 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 05:45:14 PM
Sheffield United getting deal sorted for Mo Besic, having beaten Fulham to a deal with Everton.
Good. Didn't rate him as a CDM.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 07:03:30 PM
On a more serious note,The best bit of business today imo, was Charlie Austen to WBA from Saints.
Only 4 million,would have been a great option to come
on for Mitro.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 08, 2019, 07:03:51 PM
Besic gone to Sheff Utd. I guess that means Arter will play DM.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 07:04:08 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 07:00:26 PM
Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 06:57:12 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
And another (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/f63c11e2aec10238d590c5b2f1222c3c.jpg)

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hope not

20.46 today. It's only 19.00 now. Someone taking the Michael
I'm in Israel mate, it's two hours ahead here...

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 07:05:27 PM
Rumours that the Reid deal is a loan
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 08, 2019, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 06:53:36 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
Alan Nixon

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Assistant tea Lady from Wimbledon.👱
Can she play RB.......?
Ba boom 🤣😂
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 07:06:26 PM
Reed is a decent acquisition. Defensive midfielder who can play a variety of positions. Good work ethic too.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: [email protected] on August 08, 2019, 07:06:35 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 08, 2019, 07:03:51 PM
Besic gone to Sheff Utd. I guess that means Arter will play DM.

Or Johansen, think he's played there a few times before in previous preseasons.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bencher on August 08, 2019, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 07:04:08 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 07:00:26 PM
Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 06:57:12 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
And another (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/f63c11e2aec10238d590c5b2f1222c3c.jpg)

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hope not

20.46 today. It's only 19.00 now. Someone taking the Michael
I'm in Israel mate, it's two hours ahead here...

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St Andrews White and there was me convinced I was the only Fulham fan in Israel...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on August 08, 2019, 07:34:04 PM
Rhys Daly


@RhysDalySport
7m7 minutes ago
More
DEFENDER UPDATE: Reports have begun circulating that a deal sheet was handed in for Michael Hector. Fulham could potentially have three transfers to announce, or could just be the one #FFC
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: One Martin Thomas on August 08, 2019, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 08, 2019, 07:34:04 PM
Rhys Daly


@RhysDalySport
7m7 minutes ago
More
DEFENDER UPDATE: Reports have begun circulating that a deal sheet was handed in for Michael Hector. Fulham could potentially have three transfers to announce, or could just be the one #FFC

🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳 hope so !
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 08, 2019, 07:34:04 PM
Rhys Daly


@RhysDalySport
7m7 minutes ago
More
DEFENDER UPDATE: Reports have begun circulating that a deal sheet was handed in for Michael Hector. Fulham could potentially have three transfers to announce, or could just be the one #FFC
Lord above please [emoji119]

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 07:38:50 PM
God,I'd better get the wife to get another pot
of Cocoa on the go,this could be a long night.😊
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 07:41:50 PM
Signing Hector would change the outlook on this window considerably for me.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
It's the Hope That Kills You
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 07:43:25 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 07:38:50 PM
God,I'd better get the wife to get another pot
of Cocoa on the go,this could be a long night.😊

Oh ffs Mince, you've made me want one now.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 08, 2019, 07:46:02 PM
Fulham Football Club
@FulhamFC
Welcome to Fulham, @HarrisonReed 🖊️

#NewBreed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:47:22 PM
Next....
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2019, 07:47:25 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 08, 2019, 07:34:04 PM
Rhys Daly


@RhysDalySport
7m7 minutes ago
More
DEFENDER UPDATE: Reports have begun circulating that a deal sheet was handed in for Michael Hector. Fulham could potentially have three transfers to announce, or could just be the one #FFC

Rando with 500 followers literally the only mention of this in the known universe haha
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from: twang on August 08, 2019, 07:46:02 PM
Fulham Football Club
@FulhamFC
Welcome to Fulham, @HarrisonReed 🖊️

#NewBreed
mare
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 07:49:58 PM
Quote from: twang on August 08, 2019, 07:46:02 PM
Fulham Football Club
@FulhamFC
Welcome to Fulham, @HarrisonReed [emoji2768]

#NewBreed
Don't mind this, Blackburn fans rated him.

Would be dissapointed if this was the end of our business though

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 07:50:23 PM
I'd tale hector over bobby Reid as that's more what we need
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 07:50:23 PM
I'd tale hector over bobby Reid as that's more what we need

Same
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 07:52:18 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 07:49:58 PM
Quote from: twang on August 08, 2019, 07:46:02 PM
Fulham Football Club
@FulhamFC
Welcome to Fulham, @HarrisonReed [emoji2768]

#NewBreed
Don't mind this, Blackburn fans rated him.

Would be dissapointed if this was the end of our business though

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At least we got a DM in though
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 07:52:27 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 07:50:23 PM
I'd tale hector over bobby Reid as that's more what we need

Same
I'd rather both!

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 07:52:27 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 07:50:23 PM
I'd tale hector over bobby Reid as that's more what we need

Same
I'd rather both!

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So would i but if one or the other, then .......
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Have a feeling Bobby Reid might've signed going by Joe Bryan starting a hashtag about him...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:57:09 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Have a feeling Bobby Reid might've signed going by Joe Bryan starting a hashtag about him...


And the photo with him and bobby as youths with #fulham
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 07:57:13 PM
Reid is done!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 05:45:14 PM
Sheffield United getting deal sorted for Mo Besic, having beaten Fulham to a deal with Everton.
Quote from: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 06:28:13 PM
I'm not that bothered about RB, as We have Christie/ SSess and Fossey.

DM and CB are a huge worry. Especially DM for me
Agreed.

I'm thinking Scott Parker and TK see Marlon Fossey as the future right back for Fulham.  If we can outscore teams I'm ok with this.



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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:59:05 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:57:09 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Have a feeling Bobby Reid might've signed going by Joe Bryan starting a hashtag about him...


And the photo with him and bobby as youths with #fulham

And then Fulham's official page commenting on it
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:00:45 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:59:05 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:57:09 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Have a feeling Bobby Reid might've signed going by Joe Bryan starting a hashtag about him...


And the photo with him and bobby as youths with #fulham

And then Fulham's official page commenting on it

And now it is confirmed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 08:02:58 PM
Loan with a view to a perm, good money saver that
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:03:27 PM
Is that 5 loans? Can only have 5 in a match day squad is that right?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 08:05:23 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:00:45 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:59:05 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:57:09 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Have a feeling Bobby Reid might've signed going by Joe Bryan starting a hashtag about him...


And the photo with him and bobby as youths with #fulham

Another loan with an option to purchase. How many loans now?

And then Fulham's official page commenting on it

And now it is confirmed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:05:23 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:03:27 PM
Is that 5 loans? Can only have 5 in a match day squad is that right?

Correct.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:05:41 PM
One final purchase, £5m of sess money on Hector
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:05:23 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:03:27 PM
Is that 5 loans? Can only have 5 in a match day squad is that right?

Correct.
If it is true re hector (as in a deal sheet was registered) then hopefully not a loan
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on August 08, 2019, 08:12:15 PM
Anyone else thinking of 'Only Connect'? We've gone for 2 reeds (reids) !
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: brightster on August 08, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
Chelsea have already said earlier Hector is staying. So will not happen. Was in SSN.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:14:46 PM
Tom Barclay (broke Knockhaert deal) - he is not aware of any defenders being signed...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
Chelsea have already said earlier Hector is staying. So will not happen. Was in SSN.
That's what i thought then some Journo put on twitter it was rumoured a deal sheet was submitted by Chelsea for his sale
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:17:06 PM
If we don't sign a defender then i will be dissapointed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 08:19:41 PM
Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
Chelsea have already said earlier Hector is staying. So will not happen. Was in SSN.
SSN also said watford deal for sarr was off 25 mins later he signed
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: brightster on August 08, 2019, 08:20:41 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
Chelsea have already said earlier Hector is staying. So will not happen. Was in SSN.
That's what i thought then some Journo put on twitter it was rumoured a deal sheet was submitted by Chelsea for his sale

Sorry Must admit didn't see that, but would be very surprised if true.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:21:52 PM
Tony Khan has 'liked' a tweet relating to him announcing Hector...
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:23:49 PM
I think like Tottenham don't deal with Man U, we should implement the same with Levy
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:23:58 PM
Hector joining in January... Spurs delayed funds for Sess and it held up the deal
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £

I was wondering how Levy would screw us. The transfer seemed too good to be true.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 08:25:23 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £

Thanks for nothing scumbag Levy. Shafted us AGAIN.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Nero on August 08, 2019, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:23:58 PM
Hector joining in January... Spurs delayed funds for Sess and it held up the deal

We knew the funds were coming surely we wouldn't break for by foing over for 2 hours
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:26:34 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:23:58 PM
Hector joining in January... Spurs delayed funds for Sess and it held up the deal

We knew the funds were coming surely we wouldn't break for by foing over for 2 hours

I was thinking the same thing
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 08:28:16 PM
If we take up all the options to purchase our loan players how much will it cost & how can we pay it & remain under FFP?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:29:49 PM
Sounds like tosh to me,2 hours wouldn't make any difference.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 08:28:16 PM
If we take up all the options to purchase our loan players how much will it cost & how can we pay it & remain under FFP?

There'd be plenty to spare if we gain promotion. Otherwise there is no way we could sign all of them.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:29:49 PM
Sounds like tosh to me,2 hours wouldn't make any difference.

Surely unless the P&L was done today you wouldn't have really noticed. PR spin I think
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:29:49 PM
Sounds like tosh to me,2 hours wouldn't make any difference.

Surely unless the P&L was done today you wouldn't have really noticed. PR spin I think

Would be a weird spin if we are indeed signing Hector in January.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: I Ronic on August 08, 2019, 08:33:46 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 08:28:16 PM
If we take up all the options to purchase our loan players how much will it cost & how can we pay it & remain under FFP?

I guess we wont take.up the options unless(and if) we're promoted.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:33:55 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:29:49 PM
Sounds like tosh to me,2 hours wouldn't make any difference.

Surely unless the P&L was done today you wouldn't have really noticed. PR spin I think

Would be a weird spin if we are indeed signing Hector in January.

We may be getting him at a reduced price in January. Wages saved for 5 months etc. Might all fit FFP, but a simple spin may cover that we are flying very close to the line.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BernieBoy on August 08, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
Literally had one key area to strengthen this summer and couldn't sign one player. Very disappointed! Even with FFP looming, we've still signed 5 other players, surely one space could have been reserved for a centre back!

Bobby Reid is a luxury signing!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 08, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
Literally had one key area to strengthen this summer and couldn't sign one player. Very disappointed! Even with FFP looming, we've still signed 5 other players, surely one space could have been reserved for a centre back!

Bobby Reid is a luxury signing!

They were waiting for Hector.    Six signings, all of whom will probably be starters...plus Hector coming in January.

imo this was a good window.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 08:39:34 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 08, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
Literally had one key area to strengthen this summer and couldn't sign one player. Very disappointed! Even with FFP looming, we've still signed 5 other players, surely one space could have been reserved for a centre back!

Bobby Reid is a luxury signing!

They were waiting for Hector.    Six signings, all of whom will probably be starters...plus Hector coming in January.

imo this was a good window.

How do you figure that they will all be starters?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:39:43 PM
Is the window over then, does tony come out and say something like Sarah used to
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: jayffc on August 08, 2019, 08:42:37 PM
I wouldn't go as far as to say a backup striker was a luxury, we seriously lacked someone who can play through the middle with a little more speed than Mitro does for days when it's not working for him. Means Fonte is nowhere near the team which is a good thing.

It's so odd... We've made some fantastic signings on paper. Bobby Reid, Knockhaert, Cav....top top signings. Reed has good reports in the DM role from Blackburn...Odomah, we'll see, mixed feelings, if he makes good on his potential and stays injury free then could be a useful addition in a squad rotation.

But then F all in defence? So now we're really ,massively, hoping for Sess or Fossey to come good, one of which has had a serious injury for some time. The other with next to no experience at this level. But a chance to step out from his brothers wake and step up. But that's a big risk. Then to not get a commanding CB in is frankly criminal considering how poor we've been at the back. We needed a leader back there. Mawson better stay fit and our Midfield better be a hell of a lot more combative (it should be now with Artur and Reed) in order to shield our defence.

Well.....Let's see how this one plays out
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:44:29 PM
Incredibly lopsided window. If we had gotten in Hector I'd be happy, but as is the defense is incredibly thin. Ahead of defense the team is stacked though.

Have to pray that Mawson is past all his injury troubles.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Andyb on August 08, 2019, 08:46:34 PM
Heard reed plays rb sometimes
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:46:43 PM
We're playing 1-7-3 system.
No defence and 7 in midfield stopping them
getting through.😵
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 08:52:19 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 08:39:34 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 08, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
Literally had one key area to strengthen this summer and couldn't sign one player. Very disappointed! Even with FFP looming, we've still signed 5 other players, surely one space could have been reserved for a centre back!

Bobby Reid is a luxury signing!

They were waiting for Hector.    Six signings, all of whom will probably be starters...plus Hector coming in January.

imo this was a good window.

How do you figure that they will all be starters?
Sorry...not Bobby or Josh.

Harry and Harrison in the midfield with Cairney though...with Anthony and Ivan on the outside.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:54:16 PM
I there a loan window? If so can we loan hector if not why not
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 08:56:24 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:54:16 PM
I there a loan window? If so can we loan hector if not why not

Nope, and we've used our quota anyway
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 08, 2019, 09:06:06 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:46:43 PM
We're playing 1-7-3 system.
No defence and 7 in midfield stopping them
getting through.😵

Wow!
This is unheard of & it will take our rivals until January to work our how to play us by which time we can sign Hector, Achilles et al
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:19:03 PM
Graeme Bailey

Michael Hector deal to Fulham collapsed last minute - whilst he was at training ground.

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £

Not doubting...but is there a link for this?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 09:21:11 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:19:03 PM
Graeme Bailey

Michael Hector deal to Fulham collapsed last minute - whilst he was at training ground.

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Wait...then NO Sessegnon deal then, right?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 08:56:24 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:54:16 PM
I there a loan window? If so can we loan hector if not why not

Nope, and we've used our quota anyway
We had 6 the year we went up, Ojo never got picked after we signed Targett and Mitro

Didn't think there was a loan window these days after the full transfer window closed, but wasn't sure
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:25:13 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 09:21:11 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:19:03 PM
Graeme Bailey

Michael Hector deal to Fulham collapsed last minute - whilst he was at training ground.

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Wait...then NO Sessegnon deal then, right?
I'd say the deal was ready but hinged on the sess money coming through?

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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:25:13 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 09:21:11 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:19:03 PM
Graeme Bailey

Michael Hector deal to Fulham collapsed last minute - whilst he was at training ground.

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Wait...then NO Sessegnon deal then, right?
I'd say the deal was ready but hinged on the sess money coming through?

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I cant see how that makes sense. If the deal was agreed, we could spend the money knowing it was coming. Not like SK doesnt have the capital.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 08, 2019, 09:31:32 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:25:13 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 09:21:11 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:19:03 PM
Graeme Bailey

Michael Hector deal to Fulham collapsed last minute - whilst he was at training ground.

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Wait...then NO Sessegnon deal then, right?
I'd say the deal was ready but hinged on the sess money coming through?

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I cant see how that makes sense. If the deal was agreed, we could spend the money knowing it was coming. Not like SK doesnt have the capital.
Do t hunk he can just pump the cash in then take it back under FFP. Has to be rules around that, as stupid as FFP is
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: LVBPTS on August 08, 2019, 09:36:07 PM
SESSEGNON DELAY DENIED HECTOR MOVE

Reporter Dharmesh Sheth has been speaking on Sky Sports News about how Chelsea defender Michael Hector missed out on a move to Fulham because Tottenham's move for Ryan Sessegnon went too late in the day.

"Financial Fair Play restrictions meant signing Hector would have required Fulham to have sold Sessegnon, but there was a period in the afternoon where there was a stalemate in discussions with Fulham and Tottenham and at one point it looked like the deal might not go through.

"Tony Khan, the Fulham vice chairman, was even willing to let Sessegnon see out the rest of his contract and lose him for free next summer.

"Hector was wanted but that required Spurs' deal to be concluded so the funds would be received. We were told this deal didn't get finalised until after 3.30pm on Deadline Day, forcing the deal with Chelsea for Hector to be delayed, so Hector missed out on a move to Fulham.

"We understand that Hector might still join Fulham, but they will have to wait until January.


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: BernieBoy on August 08, 2019, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £

Not doubting...but is there a link for this?

Just heard them say it on Sky Sports News. Levy is such a cock!!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 09:42:18 PM
Still don't get it,money released 3-30
How long does it take to go from us to Chelsea.
Papers in and we then had till 7pm.
Think its bulls***....IMO.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team

You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team

You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not

Well I've bought a house which is infinitely more complex
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on August 08, 2019, 09:47:21 PM
Let's try not to jump down each other's throats, Facts not Fiction!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team

You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
All other clubs reliant on funds managed it.
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
The explanation makes very little sense, since surely most of the paperwork could of course have been completed before the Sess signing was done? I think one or both of the clubs just f'd something up.

However, as regards buying a house, it may be different in the UK, but I have bought several properties and don't really see the huge complexity, and also don't see why it should be much harder than buying a multi million pound footballer. It would have been very difficult to complete everything within a few hours of course.

It should however be added that one should have higher expectations on a professional (such as TK/AM) than on an average house buyer so the comparison doesn't really matter any way.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:56:56 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team

You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
All other clubs reliant on funds managed it.
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!

I agree that the Sess deal should be no excuse, but just out of interest, what other clubs reliant of funds that ultimately did not get released until 3.30 pm managed to get all their dealings done?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:56:56 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team

You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
All other clubs reliant on funds managed it.
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!

I agree that the Sess deal should be no excuse, but just out of interest, what other clubs reliant of funds that ultimately did not get released until 3.30 pm managed to get all their dealings done?

Ours isn't a funds issue in terms of lacking the money. We have it in our locker. But there was only so much more money we could lose in terms of FFP, that we had to wait to the Sess money comes in to balance the book.

No doubt, if we had bought Hector, and Sess fell through, we'd be inline for another FFP punishment.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 10:15:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:56:56 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team

You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
All other clubs reliant on funds managed it.
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!

I agree that the Sess deal should be no excuse, but just out of interest, what other clubs reliant of funds that ultimately did not get released until 3.30 pm managed to get all their dealings done?

Ours isn't a funds issue in terms of lacking the money. We have it in our locker. But there was only so much more money we could lose in terms of FFP, that we had to wait to the Sess money comes in to balance the book.

No doubt, if we had bought Hector, and Sess fell through, we'd be inline for another FFP punishment.

I never claimed that we were cash strapped, I am just fairly sure that a deal can be all but finalised while waiting for other deals to go through. This does however not at all have to be all our fault, since Chelsea were also involved. We don't know the exact nature of the hold up, but I cannot believe that it was impossible to make sure that a deal could be finalised in case of the Sess transfer going through. It was TKs and/or AMs job to get it done, and they failed, although not certain it was primarily their fault on the day.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
as regards buying a house, it may be different in the UK, but I have bought several properties and don't really see the huge complexity, and also don't see why it should be much harder than buying a multi million pound footballer.

Well I don't how it works in Sweden but here it's very complicated. Most purchases will be financed by a mortgage which involves a bank carrying out its own DD on the buyer(s) and the property and ultimately taking a legal charge against the property. The finance will normally subject to interest that's fixed for an initial period then floating with reference to the BoE base rate later. The buyer(s) DD will involve everything from radon to light obstruction to chancel repair, which is an obligation to contribute to the cost of repair of local churches. All property is held on trust under English law, usually by the legal owner on trust for themselves. When there's more than one owner their shares may be varied, either expressly, or impliedly by certain actions. If you're buying a leasehold property, technically you're taking assignment of the lease, will have been written decades ago, and that may include an obligation to become a shareholder in a management company that maintains the property. If you're buying a flat, your leasehold will likely only include the inner faces of your windows and door and not the outside, with restrictions on what you can do in relation to both. I reckon the foregoing covers about 10% of the issues arising in a property transaction and already it's more complex that signing a "multi-million pound footballer" (which, by the way, should be no more or less complex than signing a £10 footballer). It is infinitely more complex. End of, frankly.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:24:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
as regards buying a house, it may be different in the UK, but I have bought several properties and don't really see the huge complexity, and also don't see why it should be much harder than buying a multi million pound footballer.

Well I don't how it works in Sweden but here it's very complicated. Most purchases will be financed by a mortgage which involves a bank carrying out its own DD on the buyer(s) and the property and ultimately taking a legal charge against the property. The finance will normally subject to interest that's fixed for an initial period then floating with reference to the BoE base rate later. The buyer(s) DD will involve everything from radon to light obstruction to chancel repair, which is an obligation to contribute to the cost of repair of local churches. All property is held on trust under English law, usually by the legal owner on trust for themselves. When there's more than one owner their shares may be varied, either expressly, or impliedly by certain actions. If you're buying a leasehold property, technically you're taking assignment of the lease, will have been written decades ago, and that may include an obligation to become a shareholder in a management company that maintains the property. If you're buying a flat, your leasehold will likely only include the inner faces of your windows and door and not the outside, with restrictions on what you can do in relation to both. I reckon the foregoing covers about 10% of the issues arising in a property transaction and already it's more complex that signing a "multi-million pound footballer" (which, by the way, should be no more or less complex than signing a £10 footballer). It is infinitely more complex. End of, frankly.

I've bought many houses here. It's not that complicated if you can follow simple instructions
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:56:56 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team

You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
All other clubs reliant on funds managed it.
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!

I agree that the Sess deal should be no excuse, but just out of interest, what other clubs reliant of funds that ultimately did not get released until 3.30 pm managed to get all their dealings done?

Ours isn't a funds issue in terms of lacking the money. We have it in our locker. But there was only so much more money we could lose in terms of FFP, that we had to wait to the Sess money comes in to balance the book.

No doubt, if we had bought Hector, and Sess fell through, we'd be inline for another FFP punishment.

The deal would have cost about £1-2m in this year's accounts. That would not push us over FFP. Even if it had, we could have made it back in January by off-loading someone like Fonte in an emergency cut-price deal.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:30:00 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:24:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
as regards buying a house, it may be different in the UK, but I have bought several properties and don't really see the huge complexity, and also don't see why it should be much harder than buying a multi million pound footballer.

Well I don't how it works in Sweden but here it's very complicated. Most purchases will be financed by a mortgage which involves a bank carrying out its own DD on the buyer(s) and the property and ultimately taking a legal charge against the property. The finance will normally subject to interest that's fixed for an initial period then floating with reference to the BoE base rate later. The buyer(s) DD will involve everything from radon to light obstruction to chancel repair, which is an obligation to contribute to the cost of repair of local churches. All property is held on trust under English law, usually by the legal owner on trust for themselves. When there's more than one owner their shares may be varied, either expressly, or impliedly by certain actions. If you're buying a leasehold property, technically you're taking assignment of the lease, will have been written decades ago, and that may include an obligation to become a shareholder in a management company that maintains the property. If you're buying a flat, your leasehold will likely only include the inner faces of your windows and door and not the outside, with restrictions on what you can do in relation to both. I reckon the foregoing covers about 10% of the issues arising in a property transaction and already it's more complex that signing a "multi-million pound footballer" (which, by the way, should be no more or less complex than signing a £10 footballer). It is infinitely more complex. End of, frankly.

I've bought many houses here. It's not that complicated if you can follow simple instructions

Well it is, and I've just explained why. I suspect none of that bothered you because you paid a lawyer to do it, then just followed their "simple instructions" ("sign here please Joel") without ever really understanding the legalities of the transaction you were entering into. Of course FFC have the same option - they can pay a lawyer to handle their acquisition of a player and just follow instructions to sign a couple of forms. That's fine but doesn't change the fact that actually, to anyone with a vague understanding of the underlying transactions, that buying a house is much, much, much, much, much, much more complex than buying a footballer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 10:33:55 PM
Can confirm, buying a house is complex in UK.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 10:37:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:22:49 PM

Well I don't how it works in Sweden but here it's very complicated. Most purchases will be financed by a mortgage which involves a bank carrying out its own DD on the buyer(s) and the property and ultimately taking a legal charge against the property. The finance will normally subject to interest that's fixed for an initial period then floating with reference to the BoE base rate later. The buyer(s) DD will involve everything from radon to light obstruction to chancel repair, which is an obligation to contribute to the cost of repair of local churches. All property is held on trust under English law, usually by the legal owner on trust for themselves. When there's more than one owner their shares may be varied, either expressly, or impliedly by certain actions. If you're buying a leasehold property, technically you're taking assignment of the lease, will have been written decades ago, and that may include an obligation to become a shareholder in a management company that maintains the property. If you're buying a flat, your leasehold will likely only include the inner faces of your windows and door and not the outside, with restrictions on what you can do in relation to both. I reckon the foregoing covers about 10% of the issues arising in a property transaction and already it's more complex that signing a "multi-million pound footballer" (which, by the way, should be no more or less complex than signing a £10 footballer). It is infinitely more complex. End of, frankly.

I would believe that the DD on a multi-million pound footballer would likely be more thorough than on a 10 pound footballer.

Regarding the house, I do understand that  it most likely takes longer than buying a footballer, and also may have more aspects to consider. But most of what you list regarding properties seem to be the same as in Sweden, and therefore not very complicated. I also assume that there are standard contracts and inspections and that your banker will help you out with the financial just as the real estate broker (or whatever you have) assists in getting the paper work in order. I also notice that much of what you write has very little bearing on how complicated a deal would be, but more just an explanation of how things are (for example what forms part of a flat, or that you may have to become a shareholder in a management company). People do that every day, most of it is standard stuff, with lots of help available. Of course, if you handle everything by yourself, it would be rather complex (I for one would not be comfortable with doing all physical inspections myself), and if that is how you buy a house I agree that it is much more complex than buying a footballer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 10:39:18 PM
Shame about the Hector deal falling through because it gives the many moaners on this board something to get  their teeth into!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 10:41:25 PM
To all those slagging off the Club for the failure to sign Hector, why not wait till after the FST meeting with the Club on 12 August before passing judgement
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:46:48 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 10:37:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:22:49 PM

Well I don't how it works in Sweden but here it's very complicated. Most purchases will be financed by a mortgage which involves a bank carrying out its own DD on the buyer(s) and the property and ultimately taking a legal charge against the property. The finance will normally subject to interest that's fixed for an initial period then floating with reference to the BoE base rate later. The buyer(s) DD will involve everything from radon to light obstruction to chancel repair, which is an obligation to contribute to the cost of repair of local churches. All property is held on trust under English law, usually by the legal owner on trust for themselves. When there's more than one owner their shares may be varied, either expressly, or impliedly by certain actions. If you're buying a leasehold property, technically you're taking assignment of the lease, will have been written decades ago, and that may include an obligation to become a shareholder in a management company that maintains the property. If you're buying a flat, your leasehold will likely only include the inner faces of your windows and door and not the outside, with restrictions on what you can do in relation to both. I reckon the foregoing covers about 10% of the issues arising in a property transaction and already it's more complex that signing a "multi-million pound footballer" (which, by the way, should be no more or less complex than signing a £10 footballer). It is infinitely more complex. End of, frankly.

I would believe that the DD on a multi-million pound footballer would likely be more thorough than on a 10 pound footballer.

Regarding the house, I do understand that  it most likely takes longer than buying a footballer, and also may have more aspects to consider. But most of what you list regarding properties seem to be the same as in Sweden, and therefore not very complicated. I also assume that there are standard contracts and inspections and that your banker will help you out with the financial just as the real estate broker (or whatever you have) assists in getting the paper work in order. I also notice that much of what you write has very little bearing on how complicated a deal would be, but more just an explanation of how things are (for example what forms part of a flat, or that you may have to become a shareholder in a management company). People do that every day, most of it is standard stuff, with lots of help available. Of course, if you handle everything by yourself, it would be rather complex (I for one would not be comfortable with doing all physical inspections myself), and if that is how you buy a house I agree that it is much more complex than buying a footballer.

The DD on a footballer, whether they cost £20 or £20m, is a medical. That's it, surely?

I generally agree with your second paragraph but I'm not sure it contributes anything to your argument that buying a house isn't more complicated than buying a footballer. Yes it can be simplified by using standard forms and letting lawyers deal with it... so can the acquisition of a footballer
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:46:48 PM

The DD on a footballer, whether they cost £20 or £20m, is a medical. That's it, surely?

I generally agree with your second paragraph but I'm not sure it contributes anything to your argument that buying a house isn't more complicated than buying a footballer. Yes it can be simplified by using standard forms and letting lawyers deal with it... so can the acquisition of a footballer

Probably no medical on a £20 footballer I would say.

My argument would be that in both cases lawyers etc. are generally used so neither transaction is normally overly complicated from the perspective of the buyer as it is mostly up to discussing price and 'pulling the trigger'. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:58:45 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:46:48 PM

The DD on a footballer, whether they cost £20 or £20m, is a medical. That's it, surely?

I generally agree with your second paragraph but I'm not sure it contributes anything to your argument that buying a house isn't more complicated than buying a footballer. Yes it can be simplified by using standard forms and letting lawyers deal with it... so can the acquisition of a footballer

Probably no medical on a £20 footballer I would say.

My argument would be that in both cases lawyers etc. are generally used so neither transaction is normally overly complicated from the perspective of the buyer as it is mostly up to discussing price and 'pulling the trigger'. 

I'm sorry but... what? Lol You've spent an hour discussing the complexities of buying a house on a football forum.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 10:41:25 PM
To all those slagging off the Club for the failure to sign Hector, why not wait till after the FST meeting with the Club on 12 August before passing judgement

Yeah because they will get to the bottom of it won't they 😩
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 11:04:53 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:58:45 PM
I'm sorry but... what? Lol You've spent an hour discussing the complexities of buying a house on a football forum.

No, we've spent a few minutes within an hour to discuss the complexities (or lack thereof) of getting a football transfer over the line (with the house buying as sort of a point of reference).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 08, 2019, 11:06:20 PM
I say bring back the Handbags topic. Sorely missed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 11:21:56 PM
Whoever said 'no signing Hector will give moaners something to moan about' blimey, you'd of thought we had at least a par defence last season.....I can't believe people will try and spin not addressing the no.1/2 position for a third window in a row as something to be a bit critical about. For those who say 'we did identify it and were unlucky not to get Hector', thats not how this game works. You plan alternatives and if money was a sticking point, you get the loan alternative in and have another signing in a less valuable position ready for a last minute cash deal, where, if iy fell through, we wouldn't be utterly exposed again. Sorry for rant, but blimey, some people will just hunker down with this bs.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: VamosFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:33:39 PM
Not sure how concrete this is, but it looks like Hector will be joining us in January

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Arthur on August 09, 2019, 12:20:34 AM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:33:39 PM
Not sure how concrete this is, but it looks like Hector will be joining us in January



A lot can happen between now and January. For instance, what if Wednesday are still in for him and are better placed in the league?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AM
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January. If Chelsea didn't want him loaned out all season, they could have also had a recall clause such that if we don't exercise the option to buy on January 1st, they can recall him and sell him to another club.

I can only think of two explanations: either (1) the Simon Peach story is BS, or (2) I am cleverer than TK and AM and they didn't have this idea.

I think (1) and (2) are equally plausible.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AM
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
The FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.
Given that fact, plus the inconceivability that we had a cashflow problem, explanation has to lie elsewhere.


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 09, 2019, 03:16:35 AM
Quote from: Arthur on August 09, 2019, 12:20:34 AM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:33:39 PM
Not sure how concrete this is, but it looks like Hector will be joining us in January



A lot can happen between now and January. For instance, what if Wednesday are still in for him and are better placed in the league?

And, thanks to Ryan Sessegnons late transfer we may find that Steven Sessegnon establishes himself ahead of Odoi and after 20 games maybe even proves better than Michael Hector.

Steven Sessegnon was the real winner from Ryan Sessegnons transfer not happening to deadline day, because late negotiations Michael Hector and Florent Hadergjonaj fell through (it seems at least the Hector offer was in the ball park that Chelsea would consider). At least David Levy paid near market value, good on Ryan for helping his brother, one day we might thank him too, S.Sess maybe what we need.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AM
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
The FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.

I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on August 09, 2019, 08:18:06 AM
Does anyone know if we got a sell on for sess or was onomah the 'sell on', if anyone knows that would be good to know?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 09, 2019, 08:39:22 AM
Quote from: Danitar on August 09, 2019, 08:18:06 AM
Does anyone know if we got a sell on for sess or was onomah the 'sell on', if anyone knows that would be good to know?

I read Fulham can get an extra £5m in bonuses (e.g. play 20 games, represent England, sell on and/or win Ballon D'Or etc).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: bobby01 on August 09, 2019, 09:35:20 AM
Tbh I accept we had to wait for sess money, but surely to god hector  could have been told we are waiting for money to sign you, there is a remote chance we won't get it. But if you have your medical and agree terms as soon as sess goes we can push this through. 3:30 till 5:00, or an extra period of time. Why could that not have been done, or were they so tied up in the reed/Reid deals they gave it little thought.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Danitar on August 09, 2019, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on August 09, 2019, 08:39:22 AM
Quote from: Danitar on August 09, 2019, 08:18:06 AM
Does anyone know if we got a sell on for sess or was onomah the 'sell on', if anyone knows that would be good to know?

I read Fulham can get an extra £5m in bonuses (e.g. play 20 games, represent England, sell on and/or win Ballon D'Or etc).

Sounds like a fixed sell on of £5mill then
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on August 09, 2019, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on August 09, 2019, 09:35:20 AM
Tbh I accept we had to wait for sess money, but surely to god hector  could have been told we are waiting for money to sign you, there is a remote chance we won't get it. But if you have your medical and agree terms as soon as sess goes we can push this through. 3:30 till 5:00, or an extra period of time. Why could that not have been done, or were they so tied up in the reed/Reid deals they gave it little thought.

What has happened to Chelsea in the above. They have to be satisfied that the cash is available before they sanction the deal. There are Hector, Chelsea, Fulham and agents who all have to be satisfied before a deal can be completed. Could be many reason that the paperwork was not completed.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on August 09, 2019, 11:52:42 AM
We may still be able to strengthen the defence by signing players out of contract/released.
Are there any decent ones out there though?
Is Danny Simpson still available?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: rvFFC on August 09, 2019, 11:58:56 AM
Quote from: spikey norman on August 09, 2019, 11:52:42 AM
We may still be able to strengthen the defence by signing players out of contract/released.
Are there any decent ones out there though?
These are meant to be the defenders without a club at the moment
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=Abwehr&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=alle&yt0=Show
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 09, 2019, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: sarnian on August 09, 2019, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on August 09, 2019, 09:35:20 AM
Tbh I accept we had to wait for sess money, but surely to god hector  could have been told we are waiting for money to sign you, there is a remote chance we won't get it. But if you have your medical and agree terms as soon as sess goes we can push this through. 3:30 till 5:00, or an extra period of time. Why could that not have been done, or were they so tied up in the reed/Reid deals they gave it little thought.

What has happened to Chelsea in the above. They have to be satisfied that the cash is available before they sanction the deal. There are Hector, Chelsea, Fulham and agents who all have to be satisfied before a deal can be completed. Could be many reason that the paperwork was not completed.

I would be sure it has nothing to do with the actual cash - since they could quite easily nail a writ of control to the mast of SK's yacht if he didn't pay up

The point to the whole thing is that if Levy found out that TK was in FFP trouble - he would certainly want to squeeze a better deal out of us
As it was TK was not under any FFP pressure at that point and was reportedly prepared go to the wire and accept the financial cost of letting Ryan's contract run down
This left Levy in a poor negotiating position and we appear to have got a better deal than many people expected
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on August 09, 2019, 12:27:01 PM
Ashley Williams, Danny Simpson and Martin Olsson are all free agents, and IMO would fir what we're looking for at the back. Williams especially.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: JoelH5 on August 09, 2019, 12:50:49 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 09, 2019, 12:27:01 PM
Ashley Williams, Danny Simpson and Martin Olsson are all free agents, and IMO would fir what we're looking for at the back. Williams especially.



Plus now if the Sess money rumour is true, it is now cleared.. So we could use it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 09, 2019, 02:47:30 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 09, 2019, 12:27:01 PM
Ashley Williams, Danny Simpson and Martin Olsson are all free agents, and IMO would fir what we're looking for at the back. Williams especially.



Daniel Schwaab, 30 year-old central defender who was a nailed-on starter at PSV last season as they won the Eredivisie, is also available.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 09, 2019, 02:52:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AM
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
The FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.

I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.

Not possible - Chelski want and expected to get a fee for his transfer - he is in the last year of his contract and would have been ours for free at the end of any loan
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:15:43 PM
Quote from: Roberty on August 09, 2019, 02:52:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AM
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
The FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.

I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.

Not possible - Chelski want and expected to get a fee for his transfer - he is in the last year of his contract and would have been ours for free at the end of any loan
can you not defer payments for loans like with big transfers, pound up front and the rest in 12 months
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 09, 2019, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: Roberty on August 09, 2019, 02:52:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AM
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
The FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.

I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.

Not possible - Chelski want and expected to get a fee for his transfer - he is in the last year of his contract and would have been ours for free at the end of any loan

well evidently they won't get a fee now until january, if at all.

as i said (in a part of my post which has been cropped) "If Chelsea didn't want him loaned out all season, they could have also had a recall clause such that if we don't exercise the option to buy on January 1st, they can recall him and sell him to another club."
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: Roberty on August 09, 2019, 02:52:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AM
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
The FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.

I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.

Not possible - Chelski want and expected to get a fee for his transfer - he is in the last year of his contract and would have been ours for free at the end of any loan

well evidently they won't get a fee now until january, if at all.

as i said (in a part of my post which has been cropped) "If Chelsea didn't want him loaned out all season, they could have also had a recall clause such that if we don't exercise the option to buy on January 1st, they can recall him and sell him to another club."
yes, I'm sure there would have been ways around it. But do we really know if we were even actually in for him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 09, 2019, 03:26:33 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
yes, I'm sure there would have been ways around it. But do we really know if we were even actually in for him.

If reports are to be believed he was at Motspur Park, which suggest we were definitely in for him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 09, 2019, 03:26:33 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
yes, I'm sure there would have been ways around it. But do we really know if we were even actually in for him.

If reports are to be believed he was at Motspur Park, which suggest we were definitely in for him.
I was watching Ssn for the run in and around 4 ish they said his move to Wednesday was off and Chelsea said he wasnt leaving. That was the last that he was mentioned on there.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 09, 2019, 03:33:47 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 09, 2019, 03:26:33 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
yes, I'm sure there would have been ways around it. But do we really know if we were even actually in for him.

If reports are to be believed he was at Motspur Park, which suggest we were definitely in for him.
I was watching Ssn for the run in and around 4 ish they said his move to Wednesday was off and Chelsea said he wasnt leaving. That was the last that he was mentioned on there.

Sure, but on this forum there has been a huge amount of further information that may or may not be correct of course.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: DevonFFC on August 09, 2019, 05:34:00 PM
Brentford have just brought a player set to sign in Jan, expect to see Hector doing the same then
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Jims Dentist on August 09, 2019, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:56:56 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PM
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team

You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
All other clubs reliant on funds managed it.
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!

I agree that the Sess deal should be no excuse, but just out of interest, what other clubs reliant of funds that ultimately did not get released until 3.30 pm managed to get all their dealings done?

Ours isn't a funds issue in terms of lacking the money. We have it in our locker. But there was only so much more money we could lose in terms of FFP, that we had to wait to the Sess money comes in to balance the book.

No doubt, if we had bought Hector, and Sess fell through, we'd be inline for another FFP punishment.

The deal would have cost about £1-2m in this year's accounts. That would not push us over FFP. Even if it had, we could have made it back in January by off-loading someone like Fonte in an emergency cut-price deal.
I would be well happy if we could offload Fonte for anything approaching that, butt would not be optimistic.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Asotosyios on August 10, 2019, 08:48:27 PM
Apart from Fonte, we should try to get something for Cisse and Kebano. There are no minutes for them here and their contracts expire next summer.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 10, 2019, 10:40:02 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:15:43 PM
Quote from: Roberty on August 09, 2019, 02:52:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AM
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
The FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.

I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.

Not possible - Chelski want and expected to get a fee for his transfer - he is in the last year of his contract and would have been ours for free at the end of any loan
can you not defer payments for loans like with big transfers, pound up front and the rest in 12 months

You can defer payments but that makes no difference under the Accural Accounting System that FFP operates. In the end, once the player is committed to Fulham it has to be locked in the books. Loop holes are not easy with getting new players from other clubs.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 11, 2019, 12:49:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on August 10, 2019, 10:40:02 PM
You can defer payments but that makes no difference under the Accural Accounting System that FFP operates. In the end, once the player is committed to Fulham it has to be locked in the books. Loop holes are not easy with getting new players from other clubs.

As discussed before, even if deferred commitments must be accounted for immediately under FFP (I'm still not sure I accept that but anyway... ) there is no way that applies to something like an option to  buy, which isn't even a 'commitment' unless and until we choose to exercise it. That's what I was suggesting regarding Hector.

IIRC, according to you, we'd already have to account for the full fees of £30m (or whatever we've agreed) in total for Reed, Knockaert and Cavaleiro, even though we may never buy them. As discussed previously, that is absurd with all due respect.

In any case, my suggestion regarding Hector wasnt to defer the permanent transfer until a new FFP accounting period. It was just to defer it until we had confirmation that Sessegnon was going to spurs. So nothing to do with FFP.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 05:26:46 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 12:49:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on August 10, 2019, 10:40:02 PM
You can defer payments but that makes no difference under the Accural Accounting System that FFP operates. In the end, once the player is committed to Fulham it has to be locked in the books. Loop holes are not easy with getting new players from other clubs.

As discussed before, even if deferred commitments must be accounted for immediately under FFP (I'm still not sure I accept that but anyway... ) there is no way that applies to something like an option to  buy, which isn't even a 'commitment' unless and until we choose to exercise it. That's what I was suggesting regarding Hector.

In any case, my suggestion regarding Hector wasn't to defer the permanent transfer until a new FFP accounting period. It was just to defer it until we had confirmation that Sessegnon was going to spurs. So nothing to do with FFP.

If Levy had found out that we'd committed to buying Hector before he'd signed off on the RS transfer - it would give TK the losing hand in that negotiation

So TK grew some big-balls for this one and had the winning hand; because he was not in any FFP trouble and was prepared to use his Dad's tea-kitty to cover the cost of running down RS's contract.

It's also not possible to have a loan with an option to buy for a player in the last year of his contract. I think Hector refused a new contact so Chelskis only option was to sell and if the reports are true we were the only club he wanted to join - much the same as RS with Spuds. Even if the option to buy had been for January, Levy would know that TK would have to sell RS to stay in safe FFP territory.

At the moment non of us know for certain how close to the FFP line we are - so we have to accept what we're told by the club - if their being untruthful we will know when the accounts at published and we can have analysis from MJG and a good moan then
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 11, 2019, 08:35:13 AM
Roberty, if it's true the rules preclude a loan with an option to buy for a player in the last year of his contract, fair enough, I wasn't aware of that. Do you have a source for that?

Otherwise, if we were genuinely in for Hector, obviously we lost out there so TK didn't have the "winning hand".

Unfortunately the Companies Act accounts won't tell us anything we don't already know about FFP.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 08:35:13 AM
Roberty, if it's true the rules preclude a loan with an option to buy for a player in the last year of his contract, fair enough, I wasn't aware of that. Do you have a source for that?

Otherwise, if we were genuinely in for Hector, obviously we lost out there so TK didn't have the "winning hand".

Unfortunately the Companies Act accounts won't tell us anything we don't already know about FFP.

Logic - not sure about loaning a player in the last year of his contract but he would be a free agent at the end of the loan so there could be no option to buy - that being the case he could have been a free transfer - but I guess Chelski as still hoping to get something in January. You may not have heard that the Ryan Babel transfer was instead of a loan because be would have been a free agent anyway at the end of a loan period

There is always something - I was talking and the transfer negotiation with Spuds, sorry you didn't notice that - BUT are you saying that you would prefer to have Hector and lose any amount from the fee we got for Ryan?

I'm not sure how many would agree with losing £10m plus for "one of our own" because TK was stupid enough to put himself in a position of weakness when he was negotiating with Levy

What do you know about the clubs position regarding FFP for the current season - NOTHING - you can guess, make up figures and pontificate as much as you like but it does not make them right - when the club submits whatever paperwork to the EFL - then we will know for sure what the actual position was. At that point MJG will magic up some figures and we all know if we were being told the truth

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 11, 2019, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
Logic - not sure about loaning a player in the last year of his contract but he would be a free agent at the end of the loan so there could be no option to buy - that being the case he could have been a free transfer - but I guess Chelski as still hoping to get something in January.

Ok. Not really relevant then since I was talking about an option for January and recall if it's not exercised.

Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
BUT are you saying that you would prefer to have Hector and lose any amount from the fee we got for Ryan?

Yes. Although not £10m.

Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
What do you know about the clubs position regarding FFP for the current season - NOTHING - you can guess, make up figures and pontificate as much as you like but it does not make them right - when the club submits whatever paperwork to the EFL - then we will know for sure what the actual position was. At that point MJG will magic up some figures and we all know if we were being told the truth

There are only a few significant numbers. Parachute payments, wage bill and gate receipts. We know exactly what the parachute payment will be, TK has stated publicly the wage bill was £28m (albeit before this summer's business) and surely we can have a reasonable idea what gate receipts will be based on previous years, allowing for a 20% reduction in capacity. Not sure what surprises there could be in the statutory accounts but I suppose we'll find out when they're released... shame that isn't until March 2021!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 10:27:18 AM
Statto
An option to buy at any time or even a free transfer give us a contracted financial cost that Levy would be sure to know about

So not £10m - but how much? Do you think Levy is going to play softball if he knows he has a winning hand? Do you really think having to have a firesale in January to balance the books is a good idea? What fee would any of our players command if buyers knew that we had to sell to satisfy FFP rules?

Since Ryan seems to have made it clear he wanted to go to Spuds (I have no proof and rely on newspaper reports) TK was already under the cosh - to be in FFP trouble as well would give Levy so much leverage that I doubt £10m would be enough given his reputation for being a smart operator when it comes to transfer negotiations.

One thing I can say is that I'm so glad we had TK negotiating with Levy because with you in charge we would have been eaten alive. Also anyone else as Director of Football might not have had the confidence that SK would support them if it did go pear shaped and Ryan was left to run down his contract - like it or not in this instance TK was in a unique position to man up to Levy and I very much doubt anyone else was going to do better

I'm glad that you agree with me - no one knows the truth about FFP until the accounts go off to the EFL and we have to accept what the club tells us until then

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 11, 2019, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 10:27:18 AM
I'm glad that you agree with me - no one knows the truth about FFP until the accounts go off to the EFL and we have to accept what the club tells us until then

Don't be cretinous please. Fine to agree to disagree rather than having a long argument but that isn't what I said at all.

With me in charge instead of TK, we'd have signed Hector!!   :hook:

cheerio
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 10:27:18 AM
I'm glad that you agree with me - no one knows the truth about FFP until the accounts go off to the EFL and we have to accept what the club tells us until then

Don't be cretinous please. Fine to agree to disagree rather than having a long argument but that isn't what I said at all.

With me in charge instead of TK, we'd have signed Hector!!   :hook:

cheerio

It is exactly what you said - you just used more words

. . . . and lost £10m PLUS on the RS transfer - brilliant strategy - especially given that Hector is hardly an upgrade on the cohort we already have on our books
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 11, 2019, 11:36:45 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 10:27:18 AM
I'm glad that you agree with me - no one knows the truth about FFP until the accounts go off to the EFL and we have to accept what the club tells us until then

Don't be cretinous please. Fine to agree to disagree rather than having a long argument but that isn't what I said at all.

With me in charge instead of TK, we'd have signed Hector!!   :hook:

cheerio

It is exactly what you said - you just used more words

. . . . and lost £10m PLUS on the RS transfer - brilliant strategy - especially given that Hector is hardly an upgrade on the cohort we already have on our books

I'm not going to way in on any FFP details but just thought i'd say I think you've been out of order with how you treated/spoke to Statto. Really not cool considering it was a healthy discussion on things you both can't possibly know (which Statto also concluded).
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 11, 2019, 02:04:28 PM
I have it on good authority that the Hector deal breaking down was nothing to do with FFP. Moreso an issue with the agent being used on the deal. Hector has been told for a move to happen in Jan that the agent needs to be changed. I was also told Shad was in town for an investigation into signings made last season (Seri & MLM deal specifically). I was also told Seri and his agent are looking at legal action against the club as his loyalty fee/bonus he would have got as per his transfer fee to Fulham was manipulated by increasing the MLM fee in the double deal.

Also was told the Sess outgoing took so long because his agent (Salthouse) is under investigation with the FA and the fact he managed to get a move at all in the end was surprising. Nothing to do with the fee.

All sounds very concerning.

Nevertheless, for me we came out with a better squad and were a CB away from having an outstanding window so you have to be positive. After Ream performing so well yesterday, you would if we get to Jan injury free at the back with Mawson & Ream if Hector would be the final missing piece of the puzzle or if we are flying high, we may look at other targets.

I expect TK to hold fire on any potential deal for the next couple of months to see where we are at.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on August 11, 2019, 02:10:28 PM
Interesting.

Suppose less new faces is "more" with regards gelling
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sarnian on August 11, 2019, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 11, 2019, 02:04:28 PM
I have it on good authority that the Hector deal breaking down was nothing to do with FFP. Moreso an issue with the agent being used on the deal. Hector has been told for a move to happen in Jan that the agent needs to be changed. I was also told Shad was in town for an investigation into signings made last season (Seri & MLM deal specifically). I was also told Seri and his agent are looking at legal action against the club as his loyalty fee/bonus he would have got as per his transfer fee to Fulham was manipulated by increasing the MLM fee in the double deal.

Also was told the Sess outgoing took so long because his agent (Salthouse) is under investigation with the FA and the fact he managed to get a move at all in the end was surprising. Nothing to do with the fee.

All sounds very concerning.

Nevertheless, for me we came out with a better squad and were a CB away from having an outstanding window so you have to be positive. After Ream performing so well yesterday, you would if we get to Jan injury free at the back with Mawson & Ream if Hector would be the final missing piece of the puzzle or if we are flying high, we may look at other targets.

I expect TK to hold fire on any potential deal for the next couple of months to see where we are at.

Seri story is old news and FIFA apparently investigated and found nothing wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on August 11, 2019, 02:54:47 PM
Damning Onamoh reviews online at the moment.

What have we done?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/10/aston-villa-and-sheffield-wednesday-fans-mock-fulhams-josh-onoma/
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on August 11, 2019, 03:04:05 PM
Quote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 02:54:47 PM
Damning Onamoh reviews online at the moment.

What have we done?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/10/aston-villa-and-sheffield-wednesday-fans-mock-fulhams-josh-onoma/

Does that really count as journalism? It's essentially clickbait.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on August 11, 2019, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 11, 2019, 03:04:05 PM
Quote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 02:54:47 PM
Damning Onamoh reviews online at the moment.

What have we done?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/10/aston-villa-and-sheffield-wednesday-fans-mock-fulhams-josh-onoma/

Does that really count as journalism? It's essentially clickbait.

Well.. not journalism but an amalgamation of social media which is surely better as its multiple views rather than a single journalist? Although I admit they could've been selective.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on August 11, 2019, 03:10:01 PM
Quote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 11, 2019, 03:04:05 PM
Quote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 02:54:47 PM
Damning Onamoh reviews online at the moment.

What have we done?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/10/aston-villa-and-sheffield-wednesday-fans-mock-fulhams-josh-onoma/

Does that really count as journalism? It's essentially clickbait.

Well.. not journalism but an amalgamation of social media which is surely better as its multiple views rather than a single journalist? Although I admit they could've been selective.

I'd say
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on August 11, 2019, 03:37:54 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 11, 2019, 03:10:01 PM
Quote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 11, 2019, 03:04:05 PM
Quote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 02:54:47 PM
Damning Onamoh reviews online at the moment.

What have we done?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/10/aston-villa-and-sheffield-wednesday-fans-mock-fulhams-josh-onoma/

Does that really count as journalism? It's essentially clickbait.

Well.. not journalism but an amalgamation of social media which is surely better as its multiple views rather than a single journalist? Although I admit they could've been selective.

I'd say

Element of no smoke without fire though surely?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 11, 2019, 03:44:36 PM
It isn't really news and I wouldn't worry about it too much. They've been slagging him for a while now.

I'm not expecting him to be a key player, but he has enough talent to be able to succeed with the right manager. Given that Parker rates him maybe he'll be able to do well. If he doesn't, it isn't a huge loss.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: grandad on August 11, 2019, 03:48:46 PM
Sour grapes from Villa SW & Spurs that they were unable to get the best out of Onomah. Time will tell. He was not taken as a starter but to swell the squad in case of multiple injuries, suspensions etc.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Statto on August 11, 2019, 04:01:00 PM
Given Reid, Cavaleiro, Knockaert and Arter were all fantastic players in the Championship in recent years, I think the we can be forgiven for buying one player whose reputation isn't quite as good. Plus as far as I'm concerned we've signed Onomah for nothing because even £25m, with no extras, would have been a fantastic fee to get for Sessegnon. In any case I attach zero value to other clubs' fans comments about their departing players. I can still remember Wolves fans mocking us for signing Mcdonald shortly before we made him a linchpin in the best midfield in the division.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Milo on August 11, 2019, 04:36:10 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 04:01:00 PM
Given Reid, Cavaleiro, Knockaert and Arter were all fantastic players in the Championship in recent years, I think the we can be forgiven for buying one player whose reputation isn't quite as good. Plus as far as I'm concerned we've signed Onomah for nothing because even £25m, with no extras, would have been a fantastic fee to get for Sessegnon. In any case I attach zero value to other clubs' fans comments about their departing players. I can still remember Wolves fans mocking us for signing Mcdonald shortly before we made him a linchpin in the best midfield in the division.

Plus Leicester loved Ranieri..!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 11, 2019, 05:40:08 PM
I read that Bruce at Newcastle tried to sign him before we did. He'd played twice under Bruce, once at Villa and again at Wednesday, so it must say something that 2 football managers see something in him as opposed to the average fan on the terrace.
Only time will tell who is right!
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 11, 2019, 05:50:41 PM
I am not at all bothered what fans of other clubs think about Josh Onomah. He should be another good addition to the squad for Fulham.
It's a short cycle journey from Tottenham to Fulham, so no disruption or upheaval for him, and it's a smart move and Scott would know enough about him, and he can only get better. I have no qualms about Fulham acquiring his signature. It's a long hard season and his contribution will be valued.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Texas White on August 11, 2019, 06:20:30 PM
I think the he got lost in the Tottenham grinder. Easy to lose your way when your so young. I think Scott will bring out the best in the youngsters. It's a long season. Plenty of chances for everyone
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: FFC1987 on August 11, 2019, 07:01:11 PM
He's a risk free potential option in a deal with one of our talents. Parker thinks, rightly or wrongly, that he and the coaching staff can harness and direct his talent so its a bit of a 'good luck to them' job. If it doesn't work out, ah well, no biggy. Would be different if we were relying on him to produce but anything more squad depth, and its a win in my book.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: WolverineFFC on August 11, 2019, 11:41:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 11, 2019, 07:01:11 PM
He's a risk free potential option in a deal with one of our talents. Parker thinks, rightly or wrongly, that he and the coaching staff can harness and direct his talent so its a bit of a 'good luck to them' job. If it doesn't work out, ah well, no biggy. Would be different if we were relying on him to produce but anything more squad depth, and its a win in my book.

I watched a great deal of Onomah at Spurs and was never that impressed. I trust Parker's judgement on midfielders though. It will be interesting to see where he ends up on the pitch. I could see Parker playing him in 4 or 5 different positions.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: RaySmith on August 12, 2019, 01:22:27 AM
Parker genuinely seems to rate him and see him as having great potential.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on August 12, 2019, 06:55:12 PM
In nosey I trust,hic mean scotty.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: spikey norman on August 12, 2019, 07:00:56 PM
One of our ex players Andy Lonergan on the verge of joining  Liverpool.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Dr Quinzel on August 12, 2019, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on August 12, 2019, 07:00:56 PM
One of our ex players Andy Lonergan on the verge of joining  Liverpool.

Didn't he play a full pre-season with them? What happened with that?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Steven Ageroad on August 12, 2019, 10:44:44 PM
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on August 12, 2019, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on August 12, 2019, 07:00:56 PM
One of our ex players Andy Lonergan on the verge of joining  Liverpool.

Didn't he play a full pre-season with them? What happened with that?

Klopp initially signed him on a temporary deal and took him on the teams pre season tour as cover. But due to the injury to to their keeper Alisson, Adrian, a free from West Ham takes over, they are signing him to sit on the bench until Alisson is fit to return. Their 2nd choice keeper, Kelleher, is not 100% fit after a wrist injury and the next 2 keepers in line are 16 years and 18 years old, the 18 year old is just recovering from injury, that in a nutshell is why Lonergan is there.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Dr Quinzel on August 12, 2019, 10:56:38 PM
Thanks for that - didn't know what his contract status was pre-season. Funny how these things work out. There's a lot of money to be made as a decent backup at the bigger clubs, especially if you help them meet their homegrown status.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 13, 2019, 12:33:55 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 04:01:00 PM
Given Reid, Cavaleiro, Knockaert and Arter were all fantastic players in the Championship in recent years, I think the we can be forgiven for buying one player whose reputation isn't quite as good. Plus as far as I'm concerned we've signed Onomah for nothing because even £25m, with no extras, would have been a fantastic fee to get for Sessegnon. In any case I attach zero value to other clubs' fans comments about their departing players. I can still remember Wolves fans mocking us for signing Mcdonald shortly before we made him a linchpin in the best midfield in the division.

Onomah seems like a good utility homegrown bench player for the next decade, the 18th player in a upper table championship squad or the 25th player in a lower table premier league squad. If Parker can develop him into more than that it's a bonus.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 13, 2019, 02:46:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 11, 2019, 05:50:41 PM
I am not at all bothered what fans of other clubs think about Josh Onomah. He should be another good addition to the squad for Fulham.
It's a short cycle journey from Tottenham to Fulham, so no disruption or upheaval for him, and it's a smart move and Scott would know enough about him, and he can only get better. I have no qualms about Fulham acquiring his signature. It's a long hard season and his contribution will be valued.

yep, I can recall Cardiff fans being delighted when we swapped jazz Richard's for malone 🤣. And huddersfield town fans hated malone when they signed him. Everyone gets a clean slate at a new club, and you just have to wait and see how it pans out
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on August 13, 2019, 06:57:35 PM
Was this announced on the Offal?

http://sportwitness.co.uk/agency-confirm-fulham-player-signed-new-contract-duration-deal-still-unclear/

Earlier in May, the Cottagers owner Shahid Khan confirmed they had exercised the option to extend the contract of few players by a year and Denis Odoi's name was included in the list.

Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws on Tuesday explains the 31-year-old has signed a new contract with the Championship side, but the length of the deal has not been disclosed.

There has been no mention of Odoi signing a new deal on Fulham's social media channels or their official website.

However, this information was confirmed by Stirr Associates, the agency who represent the player.

On Monday, they congratulated their client on Twitter after he signed a 'new contract' with Scott Parker's side.

It's still not clear if the latest deal will keep Odoi at Craven Cottage until the end of the season or if this is another extension, which will keep him at the club beyond 2020.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Twig on August 13, 2019, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2019, 02:46:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 11, 2019, 05:50:41 PM
I am not at all bothered what fans of other clubs think about Josh Onomah. He should be another good addition to the squad for Fulham.
It's a short cycle journey from Tottenham to Fulham, so no disruption or upheaval for him, and it's a smart move and Scott would know enough about him, and he can only get better. I have no qualms about Fulham acquiring his signature. It's a long hard season and his contribution will be valued.

yep, I can recall Cardiff fans being delighted when we swapped jazz Richard's for malone 🤣. And huddersfield town fans hated malone when they signed him. Everyone gets a clean slate at a new club, and you just have to wait and see how it pans out

And we have a decent past record where such players have stepped up and become firm fans' favourites
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 13, 2019, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 13, 2019, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2019, 02:46:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 11, 2019, 05:50:41 PM
I am not at all bothered what fans of other clubs think about Josh Onomah. He should be another good addition to the squad for Fulham.
It's a short cycle journey from Tottenham to Fulham, so no disruption or upheaval for him, and it's a smart move and Scott would know enough about him, and he can only get better. I have no qualms about Fulham acquiring his signature. It's a long hard season and his contribution will be valued.

yep, I can recall Cardiff fans being delighted when we swapped jazz Richard's for malone 🤣. And huddersfield town fans hated malone when they signed him. Everyone gets a clean slate at a new club, and you just have to wait and see how it pans out

And we have a decent past record where such players have stepped up and become firm fans' favourites
yep pantsil springs to mind
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: sunburywhite on August 13, 2019, 09:04:32 PM

And we have a decent past record where such players have stepped up and become firm fans' favourites
[/quote]yep pantsil springs to mind
[/quote]
So does Barry Hayles
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: fulhamben on August 13, 2019, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 13, 2019, 09:04:32 PM

And we have a decent past record where such players have stepped up and become firm fans' favourites
yep pantsil springs to mind
[/quote]
So does Barry Hayles
[/quote]pretty sure Hayles left with a great rep from Bristol rovers. Came at a big price back then too
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on August 13, 2019, 10:51:06 PM
Brede hangeland when we signed him i was like who  is that why did we buy him he comes from a crap league but what did I know.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riverside on August 19, 2019, 10:20:24 PM
This thread now closed ?
Any rumours of exits to Europe ?

I thought Djalo , Fonte , Cisse and Fabri would all be going ?
( though personally I would keep Fabri )




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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: ..FOF.. on August 20, 2019, 03:18:48 AM
Quote from: Riverside on August 19, 2019, 10:20:24 PM
This thread now closed ?
Any rumours of exits to Europe ?

I thought Djalo , Fonte , Cisse and Fabri would all be going ?
( though personally I would keep Fabri )




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We can still sign free agents, maybe?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/14-free-agents-your-club-18865426

Daniel Sturridge
Mario Balotelli
Franck Ribery
Martin Skrtel
Michel Vorm
Fernando Llorente
Yohan Cabaye
Lazar Markovic
Danny Simpson
Nemanja Radoja
Ignazio Abate
Fabio Coentrao
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 20, 2019, 10:48:50 AM
Fonte apparently on his way back to Braga:

https://www.jn.pt/desporto/interior/rui-fonte-e-reforco-do-sporting-de-braga--11222424.html
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: twang on August 20, 2019, 11:48:27 AM
Quote from: twang on August 20, 2019, 10:48:50 AM
Fonte apparently on his way back to Braga:

https://www.jn.pt/desporto/interior/rui-fonte-e-reforco-do-sporting-de-braga--11222424.html

According to this he leaves on free transfer but with a 30% sell on clause.

https://maisfutebol.iol.pt/transferencias/liga/rui-fonte-e-reforco-do-sp-braga-por-tres-anos
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: 70sPimlico on August 20, 2019, 02:11:46 PM
Quote from: twang on August 20, 2019, 10:48:50 AM
Fonte apparently on his way back to Braga:

https://www.jn.pt/desporto/interior/rui-fonte-e-reforco-do-sporting-de-braga--11222424.html

Pleased for him. and us
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Count Flapula on August 20, 2019, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 20, 2019, 02:11:46 PM
Quote from: twang on August 20, 2019, 10:48:50 AM
Fonte apparently on his way back to Braga:

https://www.jn.pt/desporto/interior/rui-fonte-e-reforco-do-sporting-de-braga--11222424.html

Pleased for him. and us

Didn't we pay £9m for him? So by my reckoning, they only need to sell him on for around £30m and we recoup our money 😆

Good luck to him though.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on August 20, 2019, 06:14:23 PM
Always gave his all but just wasn't up to standard pity the players we bought last year didnt have his attitude.

Wish him all the best no hard feelings
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mullers OG on August 21, 2019, 11:11:55 AM
If this rumour is accurate then it is the start of clearing the books of those who didn't quite make it at Fulham.  Fonte is one who for my mind always gave his very best and was hugely committed to the club.  Sadly it never worked out for him or FFC.  Wish him well at his new club.  Others who could be on their way for differing reasons are Fabri, Djalo, Cisse, Kamara.  I would keep Kebano who always looks as if there is more to come from him. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: junior white on August 21, 2019, 11:19:35 AM
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 21, 2019, 11:11:55 AM
If this rumour is accurate then it is the start of clearing the books of those who didn't quite make it at Fulham.  Fonte is one who for my mind always gave his very best and was hugely committed to the club.  Sadly it never worked out for him or FFC.  Wish him well at his new club.  Others who could be on their way for differing reasons are Fabri, Djalo, Cisse, Kamara.  I would keep Kebano who always looks as if there is more to come from him.
Can't see Kamara leaving at this stage.

Re Donte think maybe we were paying the 8 mill or so in instalments and possibly wont be paying them any more, that and the sell on would not be a bad return i guess for a player who didnt fit for us
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 21, 2019, 11:20:19 AM
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 21, 2019, 11:11:55 AM
If this rumour is accurate then it is the start of clearing the books of those who didn't quite make it at Fulham.  Fonte is one who for my mind always gave his very best and was hugely committed to the club.  Sadly it never worked out for him or FFC.  Wish him well at his new club.  Others who could be on their way for differing reasons are Fabri, Djalo, Cisse, Kamara.  I would keep Kebano who always looks as if there is more to come from him.

Don't know why Kamara would be on his way. Personally I rate Kamara way above Kebano. Kebano may look like there is more to come, but it just doesn't it seems. In any way, it looks fairly obvious that Parker also rates Kamara higher and him and Ayite provides important cover. Not every player will be fit or avoid suspension for 46 games.

Agree with the rest though as they seem to be miles away from making the squad.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Dr Quinzel on August 22, 2019, 08:52:09 AM
Not a Kamara fan, but agree that he has more or is at least likely to be more effective, than Kebano.

Best of luck to Fonte - with the exception of Ipswich away he always looked like a fish out of water.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 22, 2019, 09:20:24 AM
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on August 22, 2019, 08:52:09 AM
Not a Kamara fan, but agree that he has more or is at least likely to be more effective, than Kebano.

Best of luck to Fonte - with the exception of Ipswich away he always looked like a fish out of water.

Unfortunately Fonte was another very expensive stats based mistake, but I wanted him to perform and do well. However, it was never going to work, his lack of upper body strength and the inability to survive the physical demands of the English League were short comings he could not overcome, which is were the main reasons he never punched his weight.
I hope it works out for him with the rest of his football career as he clearly was a sincere and good man in the dressing room.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Tabby on August 23, 2019, 06:01:00 PM
Can strike Ashley Williams off the possible free agents as Bristol City has signed him.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: absenteeism on August 23, 2019, 06:07:13 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 23, 2019, 06:01:00 PM
Can strike Ashley Williams off the possible free agents as Bristol City has signed him.
Been terrible for the last few seasons and an odd character.

They are more than welcome to him
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riverside on August 28, 2019, 08:51:53 AM
Djalo gone

As I said before I think Fabri and Cisse will follow

However based on last nights team selection I think Ayite and Kebano may well be going too. Or were they injured ?

I think both are useful back up and Ayite especially I would keep.




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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 28, 2019, 09:30:51 AM
Quote from: Riverside on August 28, 2019, 08:51:53 AM
Djalo gone

As I said before I think Fabri and Cisse will follow

However based on last nights team selection I think Ayite and Kebano may well be going too. Or were they injured ?

I think both are useful back up and Ayite especially I would keep.




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I reckon that he's confident with what Ayite could bring to the table, and wanted to see Reid, Kamara and DLT more.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 28, 2019, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 28, 2019, 09:30:51 AM
Quote from: Riverside on August 28, 2019, 08:51:53 AM
Djalo gone

As I said before I think Fabri and Cisse will follow

However based on last nights team selection I think Ayite and Kebano may well be going too. Or were they injured ?

I think both are useful back up and Ayite especially I would keep.




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I reckon that he's confident with what Ayite could bring to the table, and wanted to see Reid, Kamara and DLT more.

Maybe he is, but strange not to give him game time in my opinion, unless there's something else going on. I have expected that maybe one of Kebano or Ayite may leave, but surely not both? We are one injury or suspension away from Ayite being at least on the bench, if not starting.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on August 28, 2019, 01:04:11 PM
https://t.co/QKrXf3SQAL

Not sure how believable this is.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 28, 2019, 01:27:42 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 28, 2019, 01:04:11 PM
https://t.co/QKrXf3SQAL

Not sure how believable this is.

Very strange timing on this, seeing that the window is closed. I assume it would be possible to reach an agreement between the clubs now and then finalize with the FA come January. If true I believe this would be a good signing, as he can play CB or DM and has also played RB on occasions I believe. Was a class above in Sweden a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 28, 2019, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 28, 2019, 01:04:11 PM
https://t.co/QKrXf3SQAL

Not sure how believable this is.

No thanks,bad injury and not been same since.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Sting of the North on August 28, 2019, 02:12:11 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 28, 2019, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 28, 2019, 01:04:11 PM
https://t.co/QKrXf3SQAL

Not sure how believable this is.

No thanks,bad injury and not been same since.

Of course he hasn't been the same, since he hasn't played as he was injured for the remainder of last season. Maybe he has played in pre-season games of course since I understand that he is at least training with the team. One could of course have reservations on previously injured players, but surely we cannot have a hard rule on any player that has been injured ever? Now, I have no idea if there are concerns over his long term fitness, but I am sure that there are people who makes such assessments. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Asotosyios on August 29, 2019, 10:08:05 PM
Any news/rumours on Ayite and Kebano after their "no show" against Southampton? Will we see one of them on the bench in place of Reid tomorrow?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riverside on August 31, 2019, 11:37:36 PM
Spanish goalkeeper Sergio Rico, 25, could be on his way to Paris St-Germain from Sevilla as an understudy for starting keeper Alphonse Areola. (Le Parisien)


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riverside on August 31, 2019, 11:39:16 PM
Ayite is on his way to Turkey ?

http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-advanced-talks-f...nal-terms/


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Riverside on September 01, 2019, 06:45:56 PM
DEAL DONE: PSG have signed Sergio Rico from Sevilla on a one-year loan with an option to buy next summer. (Source: @PSG_inside)


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Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: Barrett487 on September 19, 2019, 06:06:54 PM
Rovers confirm signing of former Tottenham and Fulham midfielder

Blackburn Rovers have announced the signing of German midfielder Lewis Holtby on a free transfer.

The midfielder left Hamburger SV this summer after four permanent years with the 2. Bundesliga side.

He spent time as a youth player at Sparta Gerderath, Borrusia Monchengladbach and Alemannia Aachen, and was developed as an attacking midfielder at the latter.

Holtby made his debut at the age of 17 in December 2007, before making the switch to the left-win in the following season.


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Gossip.
Post by: hovewhite on September 19, 2019, 06:34:51 PM
Hasn't this thread finished this window has!!