Quote from: grandad on April 28, 2019, 09:29:31 AMDon't blame you, I will fill my time golfing and fishing whatever the weather.
This summer window I will not be viewing the Transfer thread, will not be looking at any of the Gossip articles on other media sites. I will just wait for any Official announcements. I am going to keep my sanity, relax by the pool & enjoy the Spanish sun. Enjoy all the speculation & lazy journalism but not for me any more.
Quote from: davew on April 28, 2019, 10:02:06 AMQuote from: grandad on April 28, 2019, 09:29:31 AMDon't blame you, I will fill my time golfing and fishing whatever the weather.
This summer window I will not be viewing the Transfer thread, will not be looking at any of the Gossip articles on other media sites. I will just wait for any Official announcements. I am going to keep my sanity, relax by the pool & enjoy the Spanish sun. Enjoy all the speculation & lazy journalism but not for me any more.
Quote from: keithh on April 28, 2019, 05:41:06 PM
I look forward to the endless repetition and diatribes between keyboard warriors who need to fill whole pages about their prowess.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on April 29, 2019, 09:29:44 AM
Given Anguissa's price dropped on last deadline day 9th August 2018 and his price was still huge, we can safety assume we cannot afford anyone decent until deadline day. So, no point talking about big buys until August 2019.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on April 28, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
We are making changes for next season, where they Silly Season Transfer Thread, will only be used for transfer news, for example, no off topics, and members having to trawl through endless amounts of posts. Not sure if we are going to do it, or designate a member with the responsibility.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on April 28, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
We are making changes for next season, where they Silly Season Transfer Thread, will only be used for transfer news, for example, no off topics, and members having to trawl through endless amounts of posts. Not sure if we are going to do it, or designate a member with the responsibility.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 28, 2019, 10:36:57 AMQuote from: davew on April 28, 2019, 10:02:06 AMQuote from: grandad on April 28, 2019, 09:29:31 AMDon't blame you, I will fill my time golfing and fishing whatever the weather.
This summer window I will not be viewing the Transfer thread, will not be looking at any of the Gossip articles on other media sites. I will just wait for any Official announcements. I am going to keep my sanity, relax by the pool & enjoy the Spanish sun. Enjoy all the speculation & lazy journalism but not for me any more.
Same here, I shall spend the whole summer helping mince clear out his Garden Shed. Which may even overlap into the new season.
Quote from: rogerpnowinFlorida on April 29, 2019, 01:26:07 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 28, 2019, 10:36:57 AMQuote from: davew on April 28, 2019, 10:02:06 AMQuote from: grandad on April 28, 2019, 09:29:31 AMDon't blame you, I will fill my time golfing and fishing whatever the weather.
This summer window I will not be viewing the Transfer thread, will not be looking at any of the Gossip articles on other media sites. I will just wait for any Official announcements. I am going to keep my sanity, relax by the pool & enjoy the Spanish sun. Enjoy all the speculation & lazy journalism but not for me any more.
Same here, I shall spend the whole summer helping mince clear out his Garden Shed. Which may even overlap into the new season.
I had a shed in England.
I called it..........Rogers Shed
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on April 30, 2019, 09:41:27 AM
As per usual, one full page gone and not one mention of transfer gossip, more on people's sheds?!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 30, 2019, 03:54:43 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on April 30, 2019, 09:41:27 AM
As per usual, one full page gone and not one mention of transfer gossip, more on people's sheds?!
This isn't the official Silly Season Transfer Topic,FoF are putting it up,this was just a question if it was too early.
If you read the posts you'll see I've stated it already.😕
Quote from: sunburywhite on April 30, 2019, 05:21:36 PM
https://www.shedstore.co.uk/shed-plus-champion-heavy-duty-apex-single-door-shed-10-by-8-shs
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 30, 2019, 06:31:37 PMQuote from: sunburywhite on April 30, 2019, 05:21:36 PM
https://www.shedstore.co.uk/shed-plus-champion-heavy-duty-apex-single-door-shed-10-by-8-shs
Tell me Mince, which shed is yours, and how long have you lived in it.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on April 30, 2019, 10:54:36 PM
What a great idea. This thread can be kept for the shed talk, humour regarding ladies that make coffee and tea, rumours about Jason Koumas, constant digs at Tony & Shahid Khan and all the other stuff that has made this site so great over the last couple of seasons.
When you want a laugh because maybe Mrs Brown Boys is not on, you can come on here and get your fill of state-of-the-art humour.
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?
Quote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?
Fair point. Disgusting [if true]
Quote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?
Fair point. Disgusting [if true]
Ok yes, disgusting if true.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 02, 2019, 05:59:55 AMSo that it is purely transfer news/rumours methinks. I assume it will be unlocked to be added to, then re-locked. Some people on here wanted a thread without the debate.
Why has the Official Silly Season been locked
after 3 replies....What is going on?😯
Quote from: Barrett487 on May 02, 2019, 08:37:10 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 02, 2019, 05:59:55 AMSo that it is purely transfer news/rumours methinks. I assume it will be unlocked to be added to, then re-locked. Some people on here wanted a thread without the debate.
Why has the Official Silly Season been locked
after 3 replies....What is going on?😯
Quote from: Carborundum on May 02, 2019, 10:25:51 AM
So a thread that, for all its idiosyncrasies, traditionally generates huge traffic and views is to be replaced by a more sober-sided distant relative.
My understanding of internet economics appears badly out of date.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?
Fair point. Disgusting [if true]
Ok yes, disgusting if true.
Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.
Quote from: Nero on May 02, 2019, 11:03:05 AMQuote from: Carborundum on May 02, 2019, 10:25:51 AM
So a thread that, for all its idiosyncrasies, traditionally generates huge traffic and views is to be replaced by a more sober-sided distant relative.
My understanding of internet economics appears badly out of date.
yes but there this thread for all the waffle and arguing, if people just want to see the rumours instead of A calling B an idiot and offering him out then they can just look there. Seems rather sensible
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 02, 2019, 09:02:52 AMQuote from: Barrett487 on May 02, 2019, 08:37:10 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 02, 2019, 05:59:55 AMSo that it is purely transfer news/rumours methinks. I assume it will be unlocked to be added to, then re-locked. Some people on here wanted a thread without the debate.
Why has the Official Silly Season been locked
after 3 replies....What is going on?😯
So we don't get to add to it then?😕
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?
Fair point. Disgusting [if true]
Ok yes, disgusting if true.
Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.
Quote from: f321ffc on May 02, 2019, 05:57:58 PMWhen does the Prem window close?
The summer transfer window in the Championship will close at the same time as the Premier League in major changes announced today.
Teams in the second tier will have to complete all loan or permanent signings by Thursday, August 8 while League One and League Two will still have until the end of the month.
Last season all 72 EFL sides had until 31 August to sign players on loan but now Championship clubs will have to get all their business done by August 8.
A statement from the EFL read: "The deadline for Championship Clubs for all incoming permanent and loan registrations closes at 5pm on the Thursday prior to the commencement of the Premier League season.
Quote from: Twig on May 02, 2019, 04:54:13 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?
Fair point. Disgusting [if true]
Ok yes, disgusting if true.
Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.
Err who was comparing Seri and Norwood? How do you claim on the one hand he has "more talent in his little finger.....", then go on to say he "has been TK's worse (sic) permanent signing"? Bit of a contradiction no?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:16:52 AMQuote from: Twig on May 02, 2019, 04:54:13 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?
Fair point. Disgusting [if true]
Ok yes, disgusting if true.
Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.
Err who was comparing Seri and Norwood? How do you claim on the one hand he has "more talent in his little finger.....", then go on to say he "has been TK's worse (sic) permanent signing"? Bit of a contradiction no?
I guess your right, something is missing is Seri's performances at Fulham, and I don't know what it is but it's not a lack of talent that is missing.
Quote from: Milo on May 02, 2019, 12:02:35 PMSeems sensible to me.
If you find bits of transfer news then post them here and we will update the official thread when we can!
The other thread will just be an abridged version for people to skim through the main rumours without having to trawl through pages of discussion.
It was a response to feedback in January mainly, but unfortunately there isn't always going to be a solution that makes everyone happy.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:16:52 AMQuote from: Twig on May 02, 2019, 04:54:13 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?
Fair point. Disgusting [if true]
Ok yes, disgusting if true.
Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.
Err who was comparing Seri and Norwood? How do you claim on the one hand he has "more talent in his little finger.....", then go on to say he "has been TK's worse (sic) permanent signing"? Bit of a contradiction no?
I guess your right, something is missing is Seri's performances at Fulham, and I don't know what it is but it's not a lack of talent that is missing.
Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM
Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.
I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM
Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.
I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.
Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.
Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.
I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on May 03, 2019, 12:55:40 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM
Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.
I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.
Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.
Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.
I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.
As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point
Quote from: Statto on May 03, 2019, 04:34:16 PM
I will judge Seri in mid-September when all the international transfer windows are closed.
If he's still here, I'll say well done to the lad, be very happy to have such a talented player on our books, and of course I'll get behind him 100%.
If he's gone, I'll treat that conclusive proof that everything Woolly Mammoth says about his character, honour etc is true.
Quote from: Statto on May 03, 2019, 04:34:16 PM
I will judge Seri in mid-September when all the international transfer windows are closed.
If he's still here, I'll say well done to the lad, be very happy to have such a talented player on our books, and of course I'll get behind him 100%.
If he's gone, I'll treat that conclusive proof that everything Woolly Mammoth says about his character, honour etc is true.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:14:21 PMQuote from: 70sPimlico on May 03, 2019, 12:55:40 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM
Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.
I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.
Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.
Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.
I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.
As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point
True, the simplest explanation is many players in Fulham Seri, Anguiissa, Cairney and Sessegnon just didn't play as well as last season in 17/18. We shouldn't spend time blaming anyone, just focus on getting them playing their best again, i have seen Anguissa destroy Australia. None of his performances in a Fulham shirt have been anywhere near that standard, but i hope he does.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 04, 2019, 12:34:57 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:14:21 PMQuote from: 70sPimlico on May 03, 2019, 12:55:40 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM
Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.
I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.
Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.
Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.
I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.
As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point
True, the simplest explanation is many players in Fulham Seri, Anguiissa, Cairney and Sessegnon just didn't play as well as last season in 17/18. We shouldn't spend time blaming anyone, just focus on getting them playing their best again, i have seen Anguissa destroy Australia. None of his performances in a Fulham shirt have been anywhere near that standard, but i hope he does.
I was not aware that Anguissa played cricket, and I do not remember him ever destroying Australia, was it at bowling or at batting. It cannot be at football seeing as he could not trap a bag of cement.
Although I acknowledge that his performances recently have shown some improvement, and if he stopped passing the ball to an opponent, which comes under the classification of unforced errors, he may improve a little more.
But he is another one that shows no character or passion, no expression on his boat race, a very robotic expensive player without any character signed on the evidence of stats, and some people wonder why we have gone straight back down.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on May 04, 2019, 07:59:47 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 04, 2019, 12:34:57 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:14:21 PMQuote from: 70sPimlico on May 03, 2019, 12:55:40 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 03, 2019, 11:15:13 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AM
Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.
I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.
Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.
Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.
I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.
As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point
True, the simplest explanation is many players in Fulham Seri, Anguiissa, Cairney and Sessegnon just didn't play as well as last season in 17/18. We shouldn't spend time blaming anyone, just focus on getting them playing their best again, i have seen Anguissa destroy Australia. None of his performances in a Fulham shirt have been anywhere near that standard, but i hope he does.
I was not aware that Anguissa played cricket, and I do not remember him ever destroying Australia, was it at bowling or at batting. It cannot be at football seeing as he could not trap a bag of cement.
Although I acknowledge that his performances recently have shown some improvement, and if he stopped passing the ball to an opponent, which comes under the classification of unforced errors, he may improve a little more.
But he is another one that shows no character or passion, no expression on his boat race, a very robotic expensive player without any character signed on the evidence of stats, and some people wonder why we have gone straight back down.
Riiiiight
Quote from: GJB on May 05, 2019, 12:24:22 PM
I'd like to see us put offers in for either, or both, Jarrod Bowen and Che Adams. They've both got +20 goals this season, for average championship sides.
At 22 years old, I think these two have good potential with championship experience already under their belt. If we don't sign them, our championship competitors will definitely have them on their radar
Quote from: GJB on May 05, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 05, 2019, 01:44:18 PMQuote from: GJB on May 05, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season
You do realise Tony Khan can say KMac and StefJo cannot leave, he doesn't have to persuade anyone. And frankly, it's the managers problem to keep them motivated if they do stay. Stefjo would be happy to stay provided he gets game time, with a 46 game season and without Chambers in the squad he surely will even if as a regular sub.
Quote from: GJB on May 05, 2019, 02:11:49 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 05, 2019, 01:44:18 PMQuote from: GJB on May 05, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season
You do realise Tony Khan can say KMac and StefJo cannot leave, he doesn't have to persuade anyone. And frankly, it's the managers problem to keep them motivated if they do stay. Stefjo would be happy to stay provided he gets game time, with a 46 game season and without Chambers in the squad he surely will even if as a regular sub.
I never questioned their motivation, they're two players who I have no worries regarding their motivation and passion while on the pitch.
Chambers isn't who StefJo will be competing against? Chambers is a defensive midfielder, Stef Jo is box-to-box so it will be Anguissa he's competing against.
Also, isn't Johansen's three year contract up at the end of this 2018/19 season, meaning some kind of persuasion may be necessary to tempt him to extend it?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 10:54:16 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 03, 2019, 04:27:10 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 03, 2019, 01:16:52 AMQuote from: Twig on May 02, 2019, 04:54:13 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 02, 2019, 03:55:18 AMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 11:28:47 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 01, 2019, 10:14:17 PMQuote from: Statto on May 01, 2019, 09:57:44 PMQuote from: Twig on May 01, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.
I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.
He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.
But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?
Fair point. Disgusting [if true]
Ok yes, disgusting if true.
Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.
Err who was comparing Seri and Norwood? How do you claim on the one hand he has "more talent in his little finger.....", then go on to say he "has been TK's worse (sic) permanent signing"? Bit of a contradiction no?
I guess your right, something is missing is Seri's performances at Fulham, and I don't know what it is but it's not a lack of talent that is missing.
Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.
I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 05, 2019, 03:59:16 PM
I just posted a few words on the Wolves thread above about Anguissa's very poor effort on their goal yesterday. One of thing we got badly wrong was the character of players we recruited. Frank and Seri this season give the impression that they don't care enough. This may be miles off the truth and Parker is certainly giving Frank a lot of love which I doubt he would if my comments above were true, however the fact is, next season in the championship we can't afford passengers. Tom Cairney for all his excellent footballing skills does not play with passion and KMac and StefJo allowed him to stroll at times last season.
Parker was a real grafter on the pitch and I would have though is very well placed to know who could do well next season and who is not suited so TK has to listen to him.
Chambers attitude has been excellent and this is one of his main assets.
We will need leaders and battlers as well as the skills of players like TC. I am sure there is more than enough talent in this squad but I am not sure there are enough with the right attitude to succeed in a very tough league.
Parker keeps saying how important next season is, his focus tells me he will be in charge and TK needs to have him by his side during recruitment.
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 05, 2019, 03:59:16 PM
I just posted a few words on the Wolves thread above about Anguissa's very poor effort on their goal yesterday. One of thing we got badly wrong was the character of players we recruited. Frank and Seri this season give the impression that they don't care enough. This may be miles off the truth and Parker is certainly giving Frank a lot of love which I doubt he would if my comments above were true, however the fact is, next season in the championship we can't afford passengers. Tom Cairney for all his excellent footballing skills does not play with passion and KMac and StefJo allowed him to stroll at times last season.
Parker was a real grafter on the pitch and I would have though is very well placed to know who could do well next season and who is not suited so TK has to listen to him.
Chambers attitude has been excellent and this is one of his main assets.
We will need leaders and battlers as well as the skills of players like TC. I am sure there is more than enough talent in this squad but I am not sure there are enough with the right attitude to succeed in a very tough league.
Parker keeps saying how important next season is, his focus tells me he will be in charge and TK needs to have him by his side during recruitment.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.
Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.
Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)
You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AMlike to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.
Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)
You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.
I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.
Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)
You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.
I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
Quote from: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season
Quote from: Jims Dentist on May 07, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I wonder what Reading would want for Mo Barrow.
He could give us much needed pace next season and now seems to have added goals to his game.
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:22:33 PMQuote from: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season
Im assuming the first Is Cavaliero, whos the second?
Quote from: Jims Dentist on May 07, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I wonder what Reading would want for Mo Barrow.
He could give us much needed pace next season and now seems to have added goals to his game.
Quote from: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AMlike to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.
Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)
You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.
I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:26:53 PMQuote from: Jims Dentist on May 07, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I wonder what Reading would want for Mo Barrow.
He could give us much needed pace next season and now seems to have added goals to his game.
4 goals in 26 this season?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on May 08, 2019, 01:56:17 AMQuote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:26:53 PMQuote from: Jims Dentist on May 07, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I wonder what Reading would want for Mo Barrow.
He could give us much needed pace next season and now seems to have added goals to his game.
4 goals in 26 this season?
I think he'd still be good squad depth...RW? If the team is going to lose Babel, Sess could then go back to his preferred side, then stick Mo on the right?
I'm just playing Football Manager with someone else's money. :)
I still think RB,CB and holding mid are the biggest issues.
Who is Fulham's Van Djak? Who is Fulham's Fabinho?
Leaders with incredible pace, strength and the ability to play the ball in the air (under a championship level budget obviously)
Quote from: Statto on May 07, 2019, 08:30:02 PMQuote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:22:33 PMQuote from: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season
Im assuming the first Is Cavaliero, whos the second?
Confusing Helder Costa with ex-Spurs striker Helder Postiga, perhaps?
Quote from: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AMlike to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.
Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)
You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.
I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 08, 2019, 05:44:00 AMQuote from: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AMlike to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.
Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)
You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.
I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
You are of course right hovewhite, the stats recruitment dudes will continue to misfire because stats is fools gold.
Stats are wrong, and the managers are right.
Quote from: Statto on May 07, 2019, 08:30:02 PMSuspect that's right. Helder Costa is a dazzlingly intelligent footballer who would be an adornment for any Championship team. Why he struggles to get a kick for Wolves is a bit of a mystery, but they seem to have done alright without using him much.Quote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:22:33 PMQuote from: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season
Im assuming the first Is Cavaliero, whos the second?
Confusing Helder Costa with ex-Spurs striker Helder Postiga, perhaps?
Quote from: snarks on May 08, 2019, 04:48:35 AMI only thought so because I've done the same!Quote from: Statto on May 07, 2019, 08:30:02 PMQuote from: Newry FFC on May 07, 2019, 08:22:33 PMQuote from: snarks on May 07, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
I saw that Wolves are looking at moving on Caballero and Postiga, they would be good signings for next season
Im assuming the first Is Cavaliero, whos the second?
Confusing Helder Costa with ex-Spurs striker Helder Postiga, perhaps?
Indeed, to my shame I was
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 08, 2019, 07:15:45 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 08, 2019, 05:44:00 AMQuote from: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AMlike to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.
Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)
You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.
I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
You are of course right hovewhite, the stats recruitment dudes will continue to misfire because stats is fools gold.
Stats are wrong, and the managers are right.
"Managers are Right" means Rafa Bentitz selling Mitro was right and Gary Bowyer selling Cairney was right. Before we had DoFs, most deals were agreed by two managers, one was normally right and one was normally wrong.
Quote from: f321ffc on May 08, 2019, 01:43:10 PM
According to a report in the Sun, Fulham have set their sights on signing Chelsea's center back Michael Hector this summer
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 08, 2019, 01:48:53 PMQuote from: f321ffc on May 08, 2019, 01:43:10 PM
According to a report in the Sun, Fulham have set their sights on signing Chelsea's center back Michael Hector this summer
Been on loan at Aberdeen, Reading and Wednesday last few seasons,Weds want to sign him as well,think he right back not centre back as stated.
Quote from: f321ffc on May 08, 2019, 06:51:17 PM
Google translation from France football
Relegated with Fulham, Jean-Michaël Seri could return in L1 next season. AS Monaco is interested in the Ivorian environment.
With 32 games played on 37 under the colors of Fulham, Jean-Michael Seri tried to survive in a collective in distress. Aged 27, the Ivorian international should be one of the bargains of the next transfer window. In L1, Monaco is attentive to the situation of the former Nice. Contacts exist between the different parties. Seri has the advantage to perfectly know the Championship of France where he flamed in the colors of GYM. N.D.
Quote from: f321ffc on May 08, 2019, 01:43:10 PM
According to a report in the Sun, Fulham have set their sights on signing Chelsea's center back Michael Hector this summer
Quote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PMQuote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power
1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.
32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PMQuote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power
1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.
32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.
I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.
He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PMQuote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power
1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.
32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.
I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.
He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PMQuote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power
1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.
32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.
I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.
He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.
Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 12:24:40 AMQuote from: Newry FFC on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PMQuote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power
1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.
32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.
I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.
He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.
Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example
We need depth upfront and in defence. In a 46 game season we need three forwards starting, two on the bench and another two-three in the squad. We have to avoid having no forwards on the bench like against Huddersfield away. I would be pleased if Fonte, Gary Hooper and Kait can be our 6th, 7th and 8th forwards next season.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 12:30:40 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 12:24:40 AMQuote from: Newry FFC on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PMQuote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power
1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.
32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.
I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.
He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.
Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example
We need depth upfront and in defence. In a 46 game season we need three forwards starting, two on the bench and another two-three in the squad. We have to avoid having no forwards on the bench like against Huddersfield away. I would be pleased if Fonte, Gary Hooper and Kait can be our 6th, 7th and 8th forwards next season.
We need to know what system we're playing before we start thinking about squad depth and where we need said depth.We don't really know what system Parker favours (assuming he gets the job). We've played 4-2-3-1, 3-4-1-2, 3-4-3 and 5-3-2 with him so far.
Personally hope we keep relatively tight squad next season, 21 or 22 players for the 18 places in the matchday squad with a few youth players on the fringes. Should help with the team chemistry and I think Jokanovic especially struggled with having too many options this season, hence him changing the back four/five every game.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 01:36:44 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 12:30:40 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 12:24:40 AMQuote from: Newry FFC on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PMQuote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power
1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.
32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.
I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.
He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.
Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example
We need depth upfront and in defence. In a 46 game season we need three forwards starting, two on the bench and another two-three in the squad. We have to avoid having no forwards on the bench like against Huddersfield away. I would be pleased if Fonte, Gary Hooper and Kait can be our 6th, 7th and 8th forwards next season.
We need to know what system we're playing before we start thinking about squad depth and where we need said depth.We don't really know what system Parker favours (assuming he gets the job). We've played 4-2-3-1, 3-4-1-2, 3-4-3 and 5-3-2 with him so far.
Personally hope we keep relatively tight squad next season, 21 or 22 players for the 18 places in the matchday squad with a few youth players on the fringes. Should help with the team chemistry and I think Jokanovic especially struggled with having too many options this season, hence him changing the back four/five every game.
I think Tony Khan should give Scott Parker (or other Manager) a big pre-season of 25-30 squad capable of playing many formations (including 4 or 5 at the back). Scott Parker should then determine which players to release or loan out immediately, plus what extra reinforcements we need on deadline day (e.g. any injuries or players losing their legs) and then also who may leave in the winter window.
Slavisa was quite clear that he wanted a bigger squad, particularly another centre forward to cover Mitrovoic (and Slavisa proved correct 90 mins x 38 games is too much for Mitro). A lot of Fulhams problems last year was due to too smaller a squad, hence causing players to rush back from injury (Mawson, Ream, Bryan and Sessegnon) and players playing multiple positions (including MLM, Chambers, Sessegnon, Odoi, Cairney and Vietto).
If we had Targett, Kalas, Norwood, Ojo and Piazon this season, players would have specialised in their position (eg MLM at CB) and fully recovered from injury. I think Kalas would have been super useful this season, allowing Chambers to avoid playing three days after arriving at the club, allowing Odoi to be available for RB, LB or bench, allowing Mawson and Ream to recover more before playing and lastly allowing managers to play three at the back more often.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 01:53:47 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 01:36:44 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 12:30:40 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 12:24:40 AMQuote from: Newry FFC on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 09, 2019, 12:09:26 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 08, 2019, 10:46:39 PMQuote from: mlangstrom on May 08, 2019, 10:27:36 PM
Gary Hooper on free transfer sounds like a good idea. Desperately need more fire power
1 goal in 6 appearances this season "fire power". Be big wages as well given he's on a free and a name, no thanks.
32 in January as well, with the exception of Babel we always go for players with a potential resell value.
I think Babel could be a good example of why to take a punt.
He may be older, but we need depth. 2 year contract, not excessive wages, and can't be worse than Fonte.
Doesn't mean he's better tHan Fonte, and we still have Fonte. Hooper has played 5 or 6 games recently , before that he hadn't played for a year. Seems a daft risk to take when there's bound to be better options out there. If you're looking for a championship striker, take someone like Preston's Maguire who scored twice against us, as an example
We need depth upfront and in defence. In a 46 game season we need three forwards starting, two on the bench and another two-three in the squad. We have to avoid having no forwards on the bench like against Huddersfield away. I would be pleased if Fonte, Gary Hooper and Kait can be our 6th, 7th and 8th forwards next season.
We need to know what system we're playing before we start thinking about squad depth and where we need said depth.We don't really know what system Parker favours (assuming he gets the job). We've played 4-2-3-1, 3-4-1-2, 3-4-3 and 5-3-2 with him so far.
Personally hope we keep relatively tight squad next season, 21 or 22 players for the 18 places in the matchday squad with a few youth players on the fringes. Should help with the team chemistry and I think Jokanovic especially struggled with having too many options this season, hence him changing the back four/five every game.
I think Tony Khan should give Scott Parker (or other Manager) a big pre-season of 25-30 squad capable of playing many formations (including 4 or 5 at the back). Scott Parker should then determine which players to release or loan out immediately, plus what extra reinforcements we need on deadline day (e.g. any injuries or players losing their legs) and then also who may leave in the winter window.
Slavisa was quite clear that he wanted a bigger squad, particularly another centre forward to cover Mitrovoic (and Slavisa proved correct 90 mins x 38 games is too much for Mitro). A lot of Fulhams problems last year was due to too smaller a squad, hence causing players to rush back from injury (Mawson, Ream, Bryan and Sessegnon) and players playing multiple positions (including MLM, Chambers, Sessegnon, Odoi, Cairney and Vietto).
If we had Targett, Kalas, Norwood, Ojo and Piazon this season, players would have specialised in their position (eg MLM at CB) and fully recovered from injury. I think Kalas would have been super useful this season, allowing Chambers to avoid playing three days after arriving at the club, allowing Odoi to be available for RB, LB or bench, allowing Mawson and Ream to recover more before playing and lastly allowing managers to play three at the back more often.
If the 25-30 includes players like Fossey, Drameh, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley etc. then fair enough, but I don't want us to have a bloated squad next season. Especially for players like Hooper who will be on decent wages and have no re-sell value. It's what's caused (ironically) Sheffield Wednesday FFP problems over the last couple of years and will most likely cause Stoke (and others) problems in the next year or two when they can't shift the players they want to.
I'd personally worked my "ideal" squad out (given who's likely to leave/who I want to leave)
GK: Bettinelli, Rodak
CB: Mawson, Le Marchand, New Signing (right-sided), Ream, S. Sessegnon
RB: New Signing, Drameh/Fossey (loan the other one out)
LB: Bryan, New Signing
DM: Zambo, New Signing, McDonald, New Signing (or just keep Cisse as 4th choice)
#10: Cairney, O'Riley (would even give Fonte a go in a couple of Pre-Season games just to see how he goes there)
Forwards: New Target Man, New Pressing Forward, New Winger, Ayite, Kebano
That would be the core squad I'd look to have (22 players, maybe Fonte makes it 23), and that doesn't include players like de la Torre, Elliott etc. who I'd have on the fringes/in for Cup games.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 08, 2019, 07:15:45 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 08, 2019, 05:44:00 AMQuote from: hovewhite on May 07, 2019, 08:34:15 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 07:40:14 AMlike to think we could get these players,but TK stats department will find other players no doubt!Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2019, 01:35:23 AM
Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.
Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)
You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.
I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.
You are of course right hovewhite, the stats recruitment dudes will continue to misfire because stats is fools gold.
Stats are wrong, and the managers are right.
"Managers are Right" means Rafa Bentitz selling Mitro was right and Gary Bowyer selling Cairney was right. Before we had DoFs, most deals were agreed by two managers, one was normally right and one was normally wrong.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 03:01:34 AM
I see your suggesting keeping Betts, Fossey, Mawson, MLM, Bryan, Zambo, McDonald, Cairney, Atyie, Fonte and Kebano, so the whole plan is based on the assumption that the DoF signing a RB, RCB, LB, DM, RW, CF and LW wisely. That's a Big Assumption!
I would prefer that DoF keeps the players and buys a big squad too; and Parker trims down the squad as required during pre-season. My assumption is half the players that the DoF gets fit into the current team and the rest with good stats have resale and loan value.
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 06:51:18 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 03:01:34 AM
I see your suggesting keeping Betts, Fossey, Mawson, MLM, Bryan, Zambo, McDonald, Cairney, Atyie, Fonte and Kebano, so the whole plan is based on the assumption that the DoF signing a RB, RCB, LB, DM, RW, CF and LW wisely. That's a Big Assumption!
I would prefer that DoF keeps the players and buys a big squad too; and Parker trims down the squad as required during pre-season. My assumption is half the players that the DoF gets fit into the current team and the rest with good stats have resale and loan value.
I am not sure I am following. Do you want us to try to buy as many players as possible early on in the summer, and then get rid of a good chunk of those same players later on in the same transfer window after SP has assessed them? Or do you only want to take on trialists? The former case seem difficult since either you have to sell it to the players (and why would anyone join if you tell them that you may want to get rid of them in 6 weeks, unless you pay them an absolute fortune), and the latter case wouldn't be likely to bring in much quality (since proven quality players would not want to join on a trial). By the way, can a player even be subject to two permanent transfers during the same window, or would we be completely reliant on the loan system?
Or do you mean that we should keep a huge squad with a chunk of players being kept from playing at all?
Do you care to elaborate?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 10, 2019, 07:15:43 AM
Well, a sensible mix of both, firstly a lot of the squad depth won't cost a lot because a championship bench warmer is not super expensive especially if you loan them out again. For starters we don't need get anyone in for goalkeeper or left centre back, but we probably would be wise to have a decent pre-season squad. I think our ideal squad size for pre-season should be at least Manchester City size plus three players, then release three on loan. We are better off buying 5 x £2m signings (like McDonald, Norwood and Johasen) then loaning those that don't cut it, than getting one big name £10m signing.
I am suggesting keeping players like Cisse, Edun, Riley, McDonald, Johasen, Seri, Zambo and Cairney, plus maybe an addition until we finalise the starting XI and have proven reserves. I think we have one chance to go up and don't believe in selling players now, but also adding at the same time. We obviously have to do what is financial possible, but too big a squad is a problem Parker can live with now and solve after 2, 6 or 12 months in the Championship.
Quote from: hovewhite on May 10, 2019, 07:25:17 AM
So no actual gossip on players!!
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:41:21 AMQuote from: hovewhite on May 10, 2019, 07:25:17 AM
So no actual gossip on players!!
This is the thread that is allowed to go slightly off topic. Then there is the thread only containing rumors without discussion. I would assume there will be more rumors once the season is over.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM
Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:46:50 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM
Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.
Point taken, reduced the size of the last one. I believe it can often be beneficial to at least quote the part you are responding to.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 10, 2019, 12:30:40 AM
We need to know what system we're playing before we start thinking about squad depth and where we need said depth.We don't really know what system Parker favours (assuming he gets the job). We've played 4-2-3-1, 3-4-1-2, 3-4-3 and 5-3-2 with him so far.
Quote from: colinwhite on May 10, 2019, 10:02:02 AM
weve been playing 4231
Quote from: colinwhite on May 10, 2019, 10:02:02 AM
weve been playing 4231
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 10:36:02 AM
For the avoidance of argument, perhaps in future, instead of saying "4-3-3" I'll just say "an unspecified formation featuring a back four, three in central midfield, and three wingers/strikers"
Quote from: Tooting legend on May 10, 2019, 04:05:20 PMCould see a similar role to Norwood if it does come off.
Harry Ater strongly linked to a move to the Cottage, Parker being his brother in law helps.......
Quote from: Nick Bateman on May 10, 2019, 08:14:40 PM
All this sale of star striker Mitrovic for £30million to a lesser (not glamour) PL side for barely more than we paid for him is sheer bunkum, tommyrot and balderdash touted mainly by the Daily Express.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:58:14 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:46:50 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM
Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.
Point taken, reduced the size of the last one. I believe it can often be beneficial to at least quote the part you are responding to.
Yes quote the person your replying to is fine,but we end up sometimes with 4 or 5 quotes on top of one another..lol
Quote from: sunburywhite on May 11, 2019, 07:59:10 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:58:14 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:46:50 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM
Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.
Point taken, reduced the size of the last one. I believe it can often be beneficial to at least quote the part you are responding to.
Yes quote the person your replying to is fine,but we end up sometimes with 4 or 5 quotes on top of one another..lol
Thats a very good point
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on May 11, 2019, 09:54:50 AM
£30m & Shane Long and I would do a deal with Southampton! Anyone else?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 03:06:20 PM
Talkadoodle radio saying we're after a cheap replacement for Mitro,Doncaster striker John Marquis.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p
Quote from: bobby01 on May 14, 2019, 06:34:05 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p
Very interesting balanced read, going to look up the players I don't know.
Quote from: @jolslover on May 11, 2019, 10:25:34 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 03:06:20 PM
Talkadoodle radio saying we're after a cheap replacement for Mitro,Doncaster striker John Marquis.
Have they ever got anything Fulham related right. Genuinely think there wrong with every Fulham transfer rumour
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on May 15, 2019, 06:44:07 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p
Really like what I've read about Nazim Sangare...which means we won't get him. :016:
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 15, 2019, 04:18:30 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on May 15, 2019, 06:44:07 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p
Really like what I've read about Nazim Sangare...which means we won't get him. :016:
Fun fact about Sangare. He most likely would have been called up to the Turkey Squad in March, but Senol Gunes didn't realise he was Turkish.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p
Quote from: Statto on May 11, 2019, 09:31:45 AMQuote from: sunburywhite on May 11, 2019, 07:59:10 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:58:14 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on May 10, 2019, 07:46:50 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM
Yes,but were back to the same quote after quote being added on taking up pages.Read OP.
You can still converse by putting someone's name on a reply.
Point taken, reduced the size of the last one. I believe it can often be beneficial to at least quote the part you are responding to.
Yes quote the person your replying to is fine,but we end up sometimes with 4 or 5 quotes on top of one another..lol
Thats a very good point
I agree
Quote from: EricB on May 19, 2019, 11:19:45 PM
Gayle not going to WBA, maybe coming to London? We have been linked before
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48316397
Quote from: river phoenix on May 20, 2019, 08:37:38 AMWe are going to have to replace more than just Sess., so we may have to spread the Sess money thinly, I would expect it to buy at two or three top class championship attackers.
Gayle is good but I`d rather spend Sess` money on someone younger like Jarrod Bowen.
Quote from: river phoenix on May 20, 2019, 08:37:38 AMI would love Bowen but he wont stay in the Championship. Destined for PL surely
Gayle is good but I`d rather spend Sess` money on someone younger like Jarrod Bowen.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p
Quote from: river phoenix on May 20, 2019, 08:37:38 AM
Gayle is good but I`d rather spend Sess` money on someone younger like Jarrod Bowen.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on May 21, 2019, 08:59:24 AM
According to Fulham Stuff by White Noise today,
Fulham are eyeing a move for Middlesbrough striker Britt Assombalonga to fire them back to the Premier League, Football Insider understands.
Quote from: Nero on May 21, 2019, 09:45:33 AMQuote from: SuffolkWhite on May 21, 2019, 08:59:24 AM
According to Fulham Stuff by White Noise today,
Fulham are eyeing a move for Middlesbrough striker Britt Assombalonga to fire them back to the Premier League, Football Insider understands.
Sheff Utd interested as well, the temptation of the premier league maybe to great
Quote from: Statto on May 21, 2019, 12:07:49 PM
Assombalonga is a guaranteed 15-20 goals per season player at Championship level. Good player. Would also fit in well with our other African lads - Kebano, Ayite, Anguissa and Kamara (and Seri in the unlikely event he stays).
Not good enough to replace Mitro but a great back option, and another option out wide.
Only issue is I suspect he'll want to be our first choice CF wherever he goes.
Quote from: FFC1987 on May 21, 2019, 10:54:39 AM
Big IF, but if we lose Mitrovic, I'd go all out to sign Austin as his replacement. Surplus to requirement at Siants and told he can leave. Would be an ideal and cheaper swap. I'd rather keep Mitrovic but I can't shake the feeling that we'll lose him.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 21, 2019, 01:49:43 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on May 21, 2019, 10:54:39 AM
Big IF, but if we lose Mitrovic, I'd go all out to sign Austin as his replacement. Surplus to requirement at Siants and told he can leave. Would be an ideal and cheaper swap. I'd rather keep Mitrovic but I can't shake the feeling that we'll lose him.
Maybe Parker doesn't want an exact replacement. Personally, having a hold up striker limits your play. You get by if they are very good, but if we were to lose Mitro, I'd like to see us abandon the hold up focal point, and have more of a fluid front 3.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 21, 2019, 08:33:53 AMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on May 14, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
An extended look at a lot of potential incomings and outgoings this summer.
https://t.co/A3MXfwDf0p
What are these O'Riley rumours? Stated in April that he has intentions of fighting for starting place next season.
Quote from: river phoenix on May 20, 2019, 08:37:38 AM
Gayle is good but I`d rather spend Sess` money on someone younger like Jarrod Bowen.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 23, 2019, 07:10:17 PM
https://www.wolvesbite.com/2019/05/cav-targeted-by-fulham-as-rondon-chase-hots-up/
Yes, yes, yes.
Quote from: GJB on May 23, 2019, 07:56:23 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 23, 2019, 07:10:17 PM
https://www.wolvesbite.com/2019/05/cav-targeted-by-fulham-as-rondon-chase-hots-up/
Yes, yes, yes.
Yes from me
+1
Quote from: junior white on May 23, 2019, 10:15:00 PM
Apparently there is some new(ish) rule about the number of home grown players in your match day squad in the championship, can't remember if that was the case when we were last playing there
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 23, 2019, 07:10:17 PM"Cavaleiro is a potential replacement for the Serbia international." :D
https://www.wolvesbite.com/2019/05/cav-targeted-by-fulham-as-rondon-chase-hots-up/
Yes, yes, yes.
Quote from: Deuce on May 24, 2019, 07:34:29 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 23, 2019, 07:10:17 PM"Cavaleiro is a potential replacement for the Serbia international." :D
Yes, yes, yes.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 23, 2019, 10:54:00 PMso new the season just gone?Quote from: junior white on May 23, 2019, 10:15:00 PM
Apparently there is some new(ish) rule about the number of home grown players in your match day squad in the championship, can't remember if that was the case when we were last playing there
Nope, its a new rule introduced in 18/19. FFC had between five to seven homegrown players in the squad the games named last season 18/19. I think the new rule will mean Rodak not Fabri will be the number two goalkeeper.
Quote from: junior white on May 28, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Rumour that Cardiff trying to sign Lewis Holtby
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 28, 2019, 11:20:45 AMAgree, just putting it on the thread for infoQuote from: junior white on May 28, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Rumour that Cardiff trying to sign Lewis Holtby
If we didn't have O'Riley and Elliot as Cairney back up, I'd quite like to resign him. But I'd rather focus on the youth over another older player.
Quote from: @jolslover on May 24, 2019, 10:31:55 AM
Would love Cavaleiro. Prem level winger. 9 goals 13 assists last time Wolves were in the Champ. Exciting player to watch and gets the fans on their feet taking men on.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 28, 2019, 07:52:34 PMPrint them out. Helps start the BBQ
Personally I think they are a flaming nuisance.
Quote from: Milo on June 03, 2019, 07:42:40 PM
What do we all think about this bloke from Dijon?
He is a mus-start (mustard?) for me.
There's a joke there somewhere
Quote from: f321ffc on June 03, 2019, 07:47:11 PM
Cardiff City have rejected an £8m bid from Aston Villa for goalkeeper Neil Etheridge.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 28, 2019, 11:20:45 AMQuote from: junior white on May 28, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Rumour that Cardiff trying to sign Lewis Holtby
If we didn't have O'Riley and Elliot as Cairney back up, I'd quite like to resign him. But I'd rather focus on the youth over another older player.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 04, 2019, 07:21:57 AMagree lacking a mental toughness for sure woolly.
I liked Lewis Holtby, just the kind of player Fulham are bereft of.He is a Talisman and makes things happen.
Also he is the kind of character that we are short of,and his presence and personality will lift the dressing room, he has plenty of experience and is real busy player, I wish there were another half dozen like him in Fulhams dressing room.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 04, 2019, 06:02:52 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on May 28, 2019, 11:20:45 AMQuote from: junior white on May 28, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Rumour that Cardiff trying to sign Lewis Holtby
If we didn't have O'Riley and Elliot as Cairney back up, I'd quite like to resign him. But I'd rather focus on the youth over another older player.
O'Riley and Elliot are great options off the bench, but they aren't ready to start 2 games per week if Cairney is injured. Don't kid yourself Lewis Holtby will probably be a better player than either O'Riley or Elliot for the next 12 months.
Quote from: FFC73 on June 04, 2019, 08:42:04 AM
Chambers reminds me of McCormack. Delighted for their contribution whilst with us but neither right for a successful team & we are better without them
Chambers. Brought in as a CB & failed. Moved to RB & woeful. A success in mid field but IMO he is never a starting midfielder in a successful team.
If we want a 'Chris Baird' utility man then save our money as Denis can do that role
Quote from: hovewhite on June 04, 2019, 07:27:06 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 04, 2019, 07:21:57 AMagree lacking a mental toughness for sure woolly.
I liked Lewis Holtby, just the kind of player Fulham are bereft of.He is a Talisman and makes things happen.
Also he is the kind of character that we are short of,and his presence and personality will lift the dressing room, he has plenty of experience and is real busy player, I wish there were another half dozen like him in Fulhams dressing room.
Quote from: Art Vandelay on June 04, 2019, 12:26:38 PM
Seems a strange rumour as Bryan is doing so well, unless those Newcastle rumours are true.
Fulham have revived their interest in Southampton's Matt Targett, Sky Sports News understands.
The Saints still see a future for Targett at their club and it is understood only a significant offer would convince them to enter discussions.
The 23-year-old left-back was instrumental on loan at Fulham when they were promoted to the Premier League in 2018.
Quote from: Texas White on June 04, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
Not liking some of these rumors about Bryan.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 01:06:55 PMQuote from: Texas White on June 04, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
Not liking some of these rumors about Bryan.
What rumours?
Quote from: Art Vandelay on June 04, 2019, 01:16:50 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 01:06:55 PMQuote from: Texas White on June 04, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
Not liking some of these rumors about Bryan.
What rumours?
The rumor I've heard is that Newcastle are after him.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 01:45:15 PMQuote from: Art Vandelay on June 04, 2019, 01:16:50 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 01:06:55 PMQuote from: Texas White on June 04, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
Not liking some of these rumors about Bryan.
What rumours?
The rumor I've heard is that Newcastle are after him.
Oh, i'd be quite surprised if that is the case. He's been a bit like our Targett in recent windows so probably rehashed rubbish.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on June 04, 2019, 12:43:36 PM
What if we got Target and Bryan was moved further forward?
Quote from: I Ronic on June 04, 2019, 03:16:20 PMQuote from: SuffolkWhite on June 04, 2019, 12:43:36 PM
What if we got Target and Bryan was moved further forward?
Or further north. I think Targetts better, personally.
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
Quote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
According to Sky Sports News (which is more reliable than most) we are apparently interested in Targett once more. Like you say, although he had a reasonably good season for Southampton when he played, he was demonstrably at fault for a couple of goals because of his positional sense.
Difficult to believe we would look to sign Targett and keep Bryan as I can't see either of them doing the job further up the pitch that Sess did (this is all assuming Sess is off and wouldn't be loaned back to us as part of the deal) when Targett came in on loan. It would be a bit of a luxury to have upwards of £15 million worth of specialist left backs at any Championship club!!
Quote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 04, 2019, 05:32:07 PMQuote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...
Kevin Mirallas? He's 31. Not a good price.
Quote from: Andy S on June 04, 2019, 05:49:18 PM
I would have Matt Target back in a heart beat. The reason being is he can cross a ball. That is something that Joe Bryan has a problem with. Yes we can play good football but you always need an option to cross a ball accurately
Quote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...
Quote from: sunburywhite on June 04, 2019, 09:40:06 PMrQuote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...
I Havent forgiven them for selling us Radzinski
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 04, 2019, 05:32:07 PMQuote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...
Kevin Mirallas? He's 31. Not a good price.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 05, 2019, 06:16:10 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 04, 2019, 05:32:07 PMQuote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...
Kevin Mirallas? He's 31. Not a good price.
A Right Winger that can play Left Wing, Centre Forward and Second Striker. PERFECT for next years plan to BOUNCE UP.
Quote from: Twig on June 05, 2019, 08:22:45 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 05, 2019, 06:16:10 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 04, 2019, 05:32:07 PMQuote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...
Kevin Mirallas? He's 31. Not a good price.
A Right Winger that can play Left Wing, Centre Forward and Second Striker. PERFECT for next years plan to BOUNCE UP.
Not for me, he makes AK look like a team player.
Quote from: sunburywhite on June 04, 2019, 09:40:06 PMQuote from: David I on June 04, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Being linked with Mirallas for £7m is a good shout...
I Havent forgiven them for selling us Radzinski
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.
There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.
Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship. I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AMYou make some good observations which I concur.Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.
There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.
Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship. I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)
Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 05:19:14 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AMYou make some good observations which I concur.Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.
There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.
Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship. I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)
Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
However, you have actually overlooked the actual nailed on biggest weakness of all which is TK, and there is where the problems lay.
Quote from: KJS on June 06, 2019, 07:29:55 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 05:19:14 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AMYou make some good observations which I concur.Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.
There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.
Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship. I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)
Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
However, you have actually overlooked the actual nailed on biggest weakness of all which is TK, and there is where the problems lay.
Another dig at TK from an extinct beast!!!
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.
There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.
Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship. I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 08:04:24 AMAnd you are still a total Richard Cranium!Quote from: KJS on June 06, 2019, 07:29:55 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 05:19:14 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AMYou make some good observations which I concur.Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.
There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.
Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship. I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)
Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
However, you have actually overlooked the actual nailed on biggest weakness of all which is TK, and there is where the problems lay.
Another dig at TK from an extinct beast!!!
Warning ! Warning ! Alien Alert.
Nurse Nurse Billy No Mates is out of bed again.
By the way your the second biggest weakness Grass Hopper.
Quote from: KJS on June 07, 2019, 03:00:18 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 08:04:24 AMAnd you are still a total Richard Cranium!Quote from: KJS on June 06, 2019, 07:29:55 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 05:19:14 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 06, 2019, 01:18:17 AMYou make some good observations which I concur.Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 05, 2019, 08:50:12 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 04, 2019, 04:15:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on June 04, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
I think Bryan is actually better than Targett whose weakness for Southampton was highlighted a couple of times on MOTD. I would have thought a swap of Bryan and Ritchie of Newcastle more likely than Targett.
See, I keep seeing stuff saying Richie is leaving, but the Newcastle fans are adamant he's staying and is nailing that full back role. Targett got a lot of praise towards the back end of the season on different shows so I'm surprised he's being mentioned as a vocal point of weakness in that Saints lineup. I think our full backs had way more criticisms levied at them than Targett to be honest.
There were two goals conceded by our defense the I think were explicitly do to Joe B. looking like he didn't know how to mark a player.
Not saying Joe won't be good enough in the championship. I just think Matt Targett has a higher ceiling than Joe. (defensively)
Fulham's biggest weakness is someone down our right side and making a cross to the our left side with a goalie (Rico) that cannot catch, a short LB (Bryan) and midfield aerial cover of Seri, placing too much aerial defensive work for a decent but not brilliant 6 foot defender
However, you have actually overlooked the actual nailed on biggest weakness of all which is TK, and there is where the problems lay.
Another dig at TK from an extinct beast!!!
Warning ! Warning ! Alien Alert.
Nurse Nurse Billy No Mates is out of bed again.
By the way your the second biggest weakness Grass Hopper.
Quote from: sarnian on June 08, 2019, 10:36:35 PMI would remind you that this a rumour thread, intended to promote discussion. Don't shoot the messenger. If you think that all the rumours are rubbish avoid this thread.
All these websites that you find on News Now are a joke. Apparently we are going to loan out Mitro for £2m. Anyone who believes that must have a screw loose. :dead horse:
Quote from: sarnian on June 08, 2019, 10:36:35 PM
All these websites that you find on News Now are a joke. Apparently we are going to loan out Mitro for £2m. Anyone who believes that must have a screw loose. :dead horse:
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 08, 2019, 10:41:05 PMQuote from: sarnian on June 08, 2019, 10:36:35 PMI would remind you that this a rumour thread, intended to promote discussion. Don't shoot the messenger. If you think that all the rumours are rubbish avoid this thread.
All these websites that you find on News Now are a joke. Apparently we are going to loan out Mitro for £2m. Anyone who believes that must have a screw loose. :dead horse:
Quote from: sarnian on June 08, 2019, 10:36:35 PMActually we have had 2 loan bods for him one each from Greece and Turkey, not as silly as it seems IMO. If he loves the club and fans as he says but wants top flight football (have not seen him anything to say ha has said solely prem football) then why not a loan and he comes back next season if we have been promoted or we sell him then.
All these websites that you find on News Now are a joke. Apparently we are going to loan out Mitro for £2m. Anyone who believes that must have a screw loose. :dead horse:
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 10, 2019, 01:47:58 PM
Have we signed anyone yet?
I'm starting to get very impatient.
😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 10, 2019, 01:47:58 PM
Have we signed anyone yet?
I'm starting to get very impatient.
😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
It would be good to get some mid 20s homegrown players with some Championship experience, as we will need to name seven homegrown players in every squad next season. And, with only seven established homegrown players including Betts, Rodak, Christie, Mawson, Bryan, Cairney and Fonte, we could be forced to name some weak homegrown players if they cannot play (or if one of our goalkeepers isn't homegrown).
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 09:19:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
It would be good to get some mid 20s homegrown players with some Championship experience, as we will need to name seven homegrown players in every squad next season. And, with only seven established homegrown players including Betts, Rodak, Christie, Mawson, Bryan, Cairney and Fonte, we could be forced to name some weak homegrown players if they cannot play (or if one of our goalkeepers isn't homegrown).
But surely some of our academy players would count as homegrown as well? Meaning that if either of the Sessegnon's, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley or Elliott is in the squad they would help make up the numbers? Since I would expect a few of them to be regular squad players. Or am I missing something?
Quote from: filham on June 11, 2019, 11:47:42 AM
Beginning to think that we need the Sess. matter to be sorted in order to kick start the movement of players and the assembly of the team for next season.
No doubt that we need to know at an early stage whether or not we need to replace him and his transfer fee must make a big difference to our available transfer budget.
Problem is of course that possible big spenders likely to offer best price for Sess. have no immediate need for him but see him as an investment for the future. they are therefore likely to let matters drag on to the end of the window.
We need perhaps to generate some fake news in order to make the big teams active. Send Sess. on an away day to Madrid may work wonders.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 11:53:38 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 09:19:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
It would be good to get some mid 20s homegrown players with some Championship experience, as we will need to name seven homegrown players in every squad next season. And, with only seven established homegrown players including Betts, Rodak, Christie, Mawson, Bryan, Cairney and Fonte, we could be forced to name some weak homegrown players if they cannot play (or if one of our goalkeepers isn't homegrown).
But surely some of our academy players would count as homegrown as well? Meaning that if either of the Sessegnon's, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley or Elliott is in the squad they would help make up the numbers? Since I would expect a few of them to be regular squad players. Or am I missing something?
Yes, they do count as homegrown, but what if after a few games we find Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley and Elliott need an extra season to develop into top Championship Players; but we have to name a bench of Rodak, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley, Elliott and Fonte against Leeds Away.
Our bench needs to be stronger than Fabri, Odoi, MLM, McDoanld, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye with under 21 players proving that they are better options than the old guard. We must not make the same mistake as last season with a starting lineup that should be ready for Premier League (including Fabri, TFM, Chambers at CB, Bryan, McDonald, Anguissa and Ryan Sessegnon) without a list of proven backups for that league on the bench.
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 12:35:05 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 11:53:38 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 09:19:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
It would be good to get some mid 20s homegrown players with some Championship experience, as we will need to name seven homegrown players in every squad next season. And, with only seven established homegrown players including Betts, Rodak, Christie, Mawson, Bryan, Cairney and Fonte, we could be forced to name some weak homegrown players if they cannot play (or if one of our goalkeepers isn't homegrown).
But surely some of our academy players would count as homegrown as well? Meaning that if either of the Sessegnon's, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley or Elliott is in the squad they would help make up the numbers? Since I would expect a few of them to be regular squad players. Or am I missing something?
Yes, they do count as homegrown, but what if after a few games we find Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley and Elliott need an extra season to develop into top Championship Players; but we have to name a bench of Rodak, Fossey, Drameh, De La Torre, O'Riley, Elliott and Fonte against Leeds Away.
Our bench needs to be stronger than Fabri, Odoi, MLM, McDoanld, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye with under 21 players proving that they are better options than the old guard. We must not make the same mistake as last season with a starting lineup that should be ready for Premier League (including Fabri, TFM, Chambers at CB, Bryan, McDonald, Anguissa and Ryan Sessegnon) without a list of proven backups for that league on the bench.
Why on earth would our bench in the Championship have to be stronger than Fabri, Odoi, MLM, McDonald, Johansen, Kamara and Ayite? That sounds like an very strong bench for that level, with all of those players good enough to be starting for most of our opponents.
Alos, those youngsters were added to the 7 already named by you. I think you will find that contrary to your wishes we will not end up with a squad of 30+ established Championship players, and in case of an absolute injury crisis we will likely struggle unless several of the youngsters really step up their game. But that goes for every team in almost every league. If you lose say 10 of your better players to injury/suspensions then you will likely struggle, so let's hope that won't happen to us.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Why on earth would our bench in the Championship have to be stronger? Because we have the money now, and we won't be allowed to spend it in a few year due to FFP Rules and maximium allowed losses. Yes, I am basically advocating spending every cent we have over the next three years.
Next Season is our best chance ever to get promoted, because we have the kind of financial advantages that Manchester City has in the Premier League. Our problem is some of our players won't fire and other will get injured, plus other teams will be more settled and have better team work. So, Fulham need to have more depth than any other team in the league (preferable more depth than any team ever in the Championship), which is easily possible if we sell a player like Sessegnon for £30m+, we get 50m from parchate payments and a cash injection from the Khans of 13m plus some regular revenue too.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 11, 2019, 01:24:50 PM
Once again we're getting quote after quote added.
Hello...Its transfer Gossip not about players we already have.😵
Read OP.
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 11, 2019, 01:14:05 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Why on earth would our bench in the Championship have to be stronger? Because we have the money now, and we won't be allowed to spend it in a few year due to FFP Rules and maximium allowed losses. Yes, I am basically advocating spending every cent we have over the next three years.
Next Season is our best chance ever to get promoted, because we have the kind of financial advantages that Manchester City has in the Premier League. Our problem is some of our players won't fire and other will get injured, plus other teams will be more settled and have better team work. So, Fulham need to have more depth than any other team in the league (preferable more depth than any team ever in the Championship), which is easily possible if we sell a player like Sessegnon for £30m+, we get 50m from parchate payments and a cash injection from the Khans of 13m plus some regular revenue too.
Why would other teams be more settled and have better team work? Unless we are going your proposed way with three sets of 11 players that is, because then naturally we would not be settled for years. Just to be clear, I don't oppose having a strong squad as such, but I believe it is immensely more important to have a settled team with players that know each other and have had a full pre-season together. I also don't see from where we will get this extreme depth, since I would assume that most established Championship players or better would not come to us without seeing at least a good chance for a place in the starting eleven. Unless we severely overpay for them that is of course, which is never a good thing.
Also, if our bench is stronger than that, do you propose that players like Odoi, MLM, Ayite, Kamara, Johansen and McDonald should ideally not even be in the match day squad?
Quote from: Hoppus on June 11, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Yes please:
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/06/11/wolves-open-to-offers-for-duo/
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 01:49:56 PMQuote from: Hoppus on June 11, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Yes please:
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/06/11/wolves-open-to-offers-for-duo/
Pretty much the dream for me right now. What a combo or talent we'd add to our side.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2019, 02:06:01 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 01:49:56 PMQuote from: Hoppus on June 11, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Yes please:
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/06/11/wolves-open-to-offers-for-duo/
Pretty much the dream for me right now. What a combo or talent we'd add to our side.
If you could only choose one of these two, whic one would you choose Costa or Cavaleiro?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa).
Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.
Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa).
Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.
Why would we have to wait for sales? The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?
Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa).
Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.
Why would we have to wait for sales? The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PMQuote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa).
Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.
Why would we have to wait for sales? The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?
I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.
On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 03:00:07 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PMQuote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa).
Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.
Why would we have to wait for sales? The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?
I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.
On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.
Huddersfield had the extra year in the Prem and they spent something like 40-45m last summer, plus they've got new owners. They can comfortably spend probably about 50m not factoring in player sales. We could probably spend about 10-15m max (and even after sales we won't be able to spend much more on top of that).
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 03:00:07 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PMQuote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa).
Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.
Why would we have to wait for sales? The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?
I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.
On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.
Huddersfield had the extra year in the Prem and they spent something like 40-45m last summer, plus they've got new owners. They can comfortably spend probably about 50m not factoring in player sales. We could probably spend about 10-15m max (and even after sales we won't be able to spend much more on top of that).
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 11, 2019, 03:56:38 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 03:00:07 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PMQuote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa).
Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.
Why would we have to wait for sales? The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?
I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.
On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.
Huddersfield had the extra year in the Prem and they spent something like 40-45m last summer, plus they've got new owners. They can comfortably spend probably about 50m not factoring in player sales. We could probably spend about 10-15m max (and even after sales we won't be able to spend much more on top of that).
I'm assuming you're basing this off of some FFP rule or two. The owner was ready to buy a stadium for 600 million that wouldn't immediately provide a return on investment. He also owns an NFL franchise. I doubt he'd blink if he though dropping cash would help him get back into the EPL.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 03:22:02 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 03:00:07 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PMQuote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa).
Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.
Why would we have to wait for sales? The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?
I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.
On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.
Huddersfield had the extra year in the Prem and they spent something like 40-45m last summer, plus they've got new owners. They can comfortably spend probably about 50m not factoring in player sales. We could probably spend about 10-15m max (and even after sales we won't be able to spend much more on top of that).
I'm not 100% thats correct but I'd be interested in seeing the sources for it?
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 11, 2019, 02:44:39 PMhr might score more than fine,but that's it.Quote from: Twig on June 11, 2019, 02:42:08 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 02:39:17 PM
Cavaleiro over Costa any day of the week for me. Costa's a bit of a one trick pony and can be a bit lazy which is why Espirito Santo didn't really trust him in Wolves' promotion season (and generally favoured Cavaleiro to Costa).
Cavaleiro is pretty much my ideal signing, it just depends if we could afford him from an FFP sense. We'll probably have to wait for sales before we can go in for him, which might let Huddersfield get the jump on us for him.
Why would we have to wait for sales? The owners know there will be sales in due course so no reason why they can't make a signing in advance. Unless I am missing something?
I don't think we'd need to wait for sales and I don't think Huddersfield will be in any better position for FFP than us considering revenue will be less than ours.
On the subject of Huddersfield, I'd look at how much they'd want to take on Mounie. Appreciated he's had a tough time and not done well for them, but I think in the right team, he'd bang the goals in at this level.
Quote from: Statto on June 11, 2019, 06:54:39 PM
Huddersfield will also have had a PL wage bill (£70-80m) for an extra season.
For both clubs, most of the £100m TV money would have gone on wages each year.
The way transfers are accounted for, it's not like we "spent" £100m last summer. Rather, we effectively committed to "spend" £25m per year over the next four years.
If Huddersfield spent £80m, even if it was over two seasons, they're in a similar position, albeit half their transfers might be accounted for a year earlier than ours.
I doubt they had much, if any, surplus in their PL seasons, or that they'll be in a substantially better position than us next year.
And of course all this is based on the assumption that both our chairmen are underwriting the maximum permitted losses each year, £35m per season in the PL and £13m in the Championship. It may well be the case that Huddersfield's chairman isn't actually pumping that money into the club like ours, in which case they'd be a lot, lot worse off than us next season.
Quote from: Hoppus on June 11, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Yes please:
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/06/11/wolves-open-to-offers-for-duo/
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 07:28:31 PM
A quick google later, Huddersfield turned a profit in their first Prem season. 125.2m revenue vs a 45.8m net spend and 62.6m in wages (http://financialfootballnews.com/huddersfield-town-fcs-2018-finances-premier-profits/). Don't know what they're like for this year, but they almost certainly had a lower net spend given they spend about 45m and sold Tom Ince for 10m. Would assume only a small rise in the wages as well.
So unless we've pulled off some accounting wizardry, they will be in a much better position to spend than we will be this summer.
Quote from: Statto on June 11, 2019, 09:21:37 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 07:28:31 PM
A quick google later, Huddersfield turned a profit in their first Prem season. 125.2m revenue vs a 45.8m net spend and 62.6m in wages (http://financialfootballnews.com/huddersfield-town-fcs-2018-finances-premier-profits/). Don't know what they're like for this year, but they almost certainly had a lower net spend given they spend about 45m and sold Tom Ince for 10m. Would assume only a small rise in the wages as well.
So unless we've pulled off some accounting wizardry, they will be in a much better position to spend than we will be this summer.
OK, so applying those numbers and assumptions to both seasons, and the point I was making about how transfer spending is accounted for, and assuming for the sake of argument average contract lengths of 4 yrs, their "spend" would have been about £12m (46 ÷ 4) in 17/18 and £23m (46 + 46 ÷ 4) in 18/19. That would have given them a surplus of £50m (125 - 63 - 12) in 17/18 and £39m in 18/19.
Applying the same numbers to our 18/19 season, assuming a £25m "spend" (100 ÷ 4) would give a surplus of £37m (125 - 63 - 25).
In fairness that would indeed put them £52m better off than us but it discounts us having a higher revenue etc as suggested by other posters, and crucially, if their chairman isn't pumping the £61m (13 + 35 + 13) into the club that FFP will allow over the rolling 3-yr period it's assessed, would still leave them £9m worse off than us next season.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 09:34:16 PMQuote from: Statto on June 11, 2019, 09:21:37 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 07:28:31 PM
A quick google later, Huddersfield turned a profit in their first Prem season. 125.2m revenue vs a 45.8m net spend and 62.6m in wages (http://financialfootballnews.com/huddersfield-town-fcs-2018-finances-premier-profits/). Don't know what they're like for this year, but they almost certainly had a lower net spend given they spend about 45m and sold Tom Ince for 10m. Would assume only a small rise in the wages as well.
So unless we've pulled off some accounting wizardry, they will be in a much better position to spend than we will be this summer.
OK, so applying those numbers and assumptions to both seasons, and the point I was making about how transfer spending is accounted for, and assuming for the sake of argument average contract lengths of 4 yrs, their "spend" would have been about £12m (46 ÷ 4) in 17/18 and £23m (46 + 46 ÷ 4) in 18/19. That would have given them a surplus of £50m (125 - 63 - 12) in 17/18 and £39m in 18/19.
Applying the same numbers to our 18/19 season, assuming a £25m "spend" (100 ÷ 4) would give a surplus of £37m (125 - 63 - 25).
In fairness that would indeed put them £52m better off than us but it discounts us having a higher revenue etc as suggested by other posters, and crucially, if their chairman isn't pumping the £61m (13 + 35 + 13) into the club that FFP will allow over the rolling 3-yr period it's assessed, would still leave them £9m worse off than us next season.
But you can't apply the same numbers to us, because we were paying players like Schurrle 100k a week. Don't know how true this is (https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/huddersfield-town-stand-premier-league-15476593), but if we believe it we were apparently paying approximately 500k a week more on wages than Huddersfield were in the season just gone- which is almost definitely an increase on what they were paying the season before. So that's what? Another 15-18m across the season in wages?
Quote from: Statto on June 11, 2019, 10:36:37 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 09:34:16 PMQuote from: Statto on June 11, 2019, 09:21:37 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 11, 2019, 07:28:31 PM
A quick google later, Huddersfield turned a profit in their first Prem season. 125.2m revenue vs a 45.8m net spend and 62.6m in wages (http://financialfootballnews.com/huddersfield-town-fcs-2018-finances-premier-profits/). Don't know what they're like for this year, but they almost certainly had a lower net spend given they spend about 45m and sold Tom Ince for 10m. Would assume only a small rise in the wages as well.
So unless we've pulled off some accounting wizardry, they will be in a much better position to spend than we will be this summer.
OK, so applying those numbers and assumptions to both seasons, and the point I was making about how transfer spending is accounted for, and assuming for the sake of argument average contract lengths of 4 yrs, their "spend" would have been about £12m (46 ÷ 4) in 17/18 and £23m (46 + 46 ÷ 4) in 18/19. That would have given them a surplus of £50m (125 - 63 - 12) in 17/18 and £39m in 18/19.
Applying the same numbers to our 18/19 season, assuming a £25m "spend" (100 ÷ 4) would give a surplus of £37m (125 - 63 - 25).
In fairness that would indeed put them £52m better off than us but it discounts us having a higher revenue etc as suggested by other posters, and crucially, if their chairman isn't pumping the £61m (13 + 35 + 13) into the club that FFP will allow over the rolling 3-yr period it's assessed, would still leave them £9m worse off than us next season.
But you can't apply the same numbers to us, because we were paying players like Schurrle 100k a week. Don't know how true this is (https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/huddersfield-town-stand-premier-league-15476593), but if we believe it we were apparently paying approximately 500k a week more on wages than Huddersfield were in the season just gone- which is almost definitely an increase on what they were paying the season before. So that's what? Another 15-18m across the season in wages?
I suspect their wage bill for 17/18 was indeed in the ballpark of £65m, then up to at least £70m in 18/19, and that ours was also around that level in 18/19. Factored into the sums above, those numbers would bring you out in the same place I got to. No way our wages were hugely higher than theirs in 18/19, and FWIW our wages can't possibly have been more than £81m, because there's a separate FFP limit on wages at that level for newly-promoted clubs.
Ultimately, I'd treat all the numbers you've mentioned with caution, and accept that we'll never know the exact numbers.
For the sake of argument I used your own numbers to calculate the finger-in-the-air position in my last post, but could easily have adjusted them to reflect the fact that
(a) we'll have higher natural revenues (gate receipts etc) over all 3 seasons,
(b) their wages will, as I said, have been higher in 18/19 than in 17/18,
(c) our biggest signings (Anguissa, Mitrovic) will actually be accounted for over 5 years instead of 4 (like theirs, Kongolo),
(d) we'll get a loooooot more money for Sessegnon, Seri and Mitrovic, if we sell them, than they will for Mooy and Billing
etc...
It's swings and roundabouts.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 12, 2019, 01:41:17 AM
When discussing who is better off (Huddersfield or Fulham), it's worth saying that the year we are worse off is if we are in the championship in 2021/22 (when parchaute payments end).
Quote from: KH17 on June 12, 2019, 01:45:09 PM
Rising Ballers on Instagram reporting Harvey Eliott is leaving with further details coming soon
They are pretty respected in youth football and connected with a lot of upcoming players.
Though the wording makes me think it's a a bit of clickbait
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Quote from: KH17 on June 12, 2019, 01:45:09 PM
Rising Ballers on Instagram reporting Harvey Eliott is leaving with further details coming soon
They are pretty respected in youth football and connected with a lot of upcoming players.
Though the wording makes me think it's a a bit of clickbait
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Quote from: junior white on June 13, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Sky reporting that Cody Dramah is signing for Eintract Frankfurt
Quote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!
Quote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AMWho? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record
Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
Quote from: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AMQuote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AMWho? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record
Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
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Quote from: Newry FFC on June 14, 2019, 11:34:26 AMQuote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!
Sounds like the doom and gloom when we lost McCormack.
Quote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:59:34 AMQuote from: Newry FFC on June 14, 2019, 11:34:26 AMQuote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!
Sounds like the doom and gloom when we lost McCormack.
Mitro is a couple of levels above Ross. Think €25 million would be a bargain and can't see selling that cheap though.
Quote from: twang on June 14, 2019, 12:27:05 PMyep, his value would have gone up not downQuote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:59:34 AMQuote from: Newry FFC on June 14, 2019, 11:34:26 AMQuote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!
Sounds like the doom and gloom when we lost McCormack.
Mitro is a couple of levels above Ross. Think €25 million would be a bargain and can't see selling that cheap though.
Agree. He's 24, on a long contract and proved this season that he will score goals at the highest level. There's absolutely no reason for the club to sell him without a huge profit.
Quote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:58:08 AMQuote from: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AMQuote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AMWho? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record
Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
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Lots of players I've never heard about. He seems to be a right sided winger at least.
Hopefully he'd do better than the last loan with an option to buy from Portugal if it goes through.
Quote from: Nero on June 14, 2019, 01:33:10 PMQuote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:58:08 AMQuote from: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AMQuote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AMWho? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record
Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
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Lots of players I've never heard about. He seems to be a right sided winger at least.
Hopefully he'd do better than the last loan with an option to buy from Portugal if it goes through.
Apparently Barca where looking at him at the end of last year
Quote from: Nero on June 14, 2019, 01:33:10 PMQuote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:58:08 AMQuote from: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AMQuote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AMWho? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record
Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
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Lots of players I've never heard about. He seems to be a right sided winger at least.
Hopefully he'd do better than the last loan with an option to buy from Portugal if it goes through.
Apparently Barca where looking at him at the end of last year
Quote from: Nero on June 14, 2019, 01:33:10 PMso seri mark 2Quote from: Tabby on June 14, 2019, 11:58:08 AMQuote from: St. Andrews White on June 14, 2019, 11:48:47 AMQuote from: f321ffc on June 14, 2019, 10:44:31 AMWho? Not suggesting he isn't any good, just never heard of him!
Fulham prepara uma proposta de empréstimo com uma cláusula de opção de compra de 10 milhões de euros por Jovane Cabral, segundo o jornal 'Record
Fulham prepares a loan proposal with a 10 million euro purchase option clause by Jovane Cabral, according to the newspaper Record
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Lots of players I've never heard about. He seems to be a right sided winger at least.
Hopefully he'd do better than the last loan with an option to buy from Portugal if it goes through.
Apparently Barca where looking at him at the end of last year
Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
I don´t usually bother with transfer gossip as it is just copy & pasting from some bedroom hack. However I do want to speak about the Mitrovic situation. He is under contract for a good while yet. If the Club don´t want to sell him they can´t be forced to. Even a bid of £50 Mil would not tempt me judging from the fees being asked for lesser players.
Right, back to the pool & cold beer. Chat again when the window closes.
Quote from: snarks on June 14, 2019, 02:26:17 PMHard to see him staying. A big club and a big crowd at say Villa, Premier league football and an increase in wages plus a cut of a transfer fee and why would he not move on.Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
I don´t usually bother with transfer gossip as it is just copy & pasting from some bedroom hack. However I do want to speak about the Mitrovic situation. He is under contract for a good while yet. If the Club don´t want to sell him they can´t be forced to. Even a bid of £50 Mil would not tempt me judging from the fees being asked for lesser players.
Right, back to the pool & cold beer. Chat again when the window closes.
grandad
That used to be the case, if players want a move, they can realistically force one through now. I'm not saying he wants to go, but if he wants to move he will.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 07, 2019, 08:07:52 AM
Radio saying we're after Leandro Trossard of Genk.
Quote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 15, 2019, 09:24:19 AMQuote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!
Fulham Fans have been preaching the nonsense the players we have bought this season are not good enough to get us out of the Championship, and logically if you want to buy new players you have to sell profitable players (ie Mitro and Sess) and then see what you can get with the money. I say try last years team, selling Sess for a few players.
Quote from: Nero on June 15, 2019, 10:51:30 AMIf we were in the prem would be 40plus million all day ling like it would be for Sess, problem is once your relegated some players want to leave (not saying nitro does) and some clubs need to sell due to FFP or just cant afford the wage, any of these means the price reduces.Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 15, 2019, 09:24:19 AMQuote from: Milo on June 14, 2019, 11:23:22 AM
If we lose Mitrovic we will fall 5 years behind! Central strikers who dominate leagues are worth the £150m we will get it we go back up!
Fulham Fans have been preaching the nonsense the players we have bought this season are not good enough to get us out of the Championship, and logically if you want to buy new players you have to sell profitable players (ie Mitro and Sess) and then see what you can get with the money. I say try last years team, selling Sess for a few players.
They where good enough to get us in the Championship
If we sell Mitro for 25m we need shooting, that's what we paid for him and know he's a proven PL scorer and on a 4 year contract we should be demanding 40+m for him if we are going to let him go, plus we know he score in the Championship
Quote from: f321ffc on June 15, 2019, 03:18:19 PMNot sure the midfield is the priority , we need to concentrate on centre back, right back and possible replacements for Sess., Mitrovic and Babel.
From Daily Mail.
Fulham eyeing up move for Leeds United's Adam Forshaw as manager Scott Parker looks to bolster his midfield ahead of the new season
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 15, 2019, 11:39:16 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7145431/Harvey-Elliott-set-quit-Fulham-Barcelona-RB-Leipzig-interested.html
Harvey Elliott is quitting Fulham just a month after becoming the youngest player in Premier League history, writes Joe Bernstein.
Elliott played against Wolves in May aged only 16 years and 30 days.
He has failed to agree a new contract at Craven Cottage and can leave as a free agent at the end of the month.
Barcelona and RB Leipzig are among those looking at the midfielder.
The England Under-17 international clearly impressed Fulham captain Tom Cairney, who said: 'He does bits of magic. His belief in himself at such a young age is frightening.'
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 15, 2019, 11:52:47 PMQuote from: Barrett487 on June 15, 2019, 11:39:16 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7145431/Harvey-Elliott-set-quit-Fulham-Barcelona-RB-Leipzig-interested.html
Harvey Elliott is quitting Fulham just a month after becoming the youngest player in Premier League history, writes Joe Bernstein.
Elliott played against Wolves in May aged only 16 years and 30 days.
He has failed to agree a new contract at Craven Cottage and can leave as a free agent at the end of the month.
Barcelona and RB Leipzig are among those looking at the midfielder.
The England Under-17 international clearly impressed Fulham captain Tom Cairney, who said: 'He does bits of magic. His belief in himself at such a young age is frightening.'
What a nice young man
Quote from: filham on June 15, 2019, 09:49:45 PMQuote from: f321ffc on June 15, 2019, 03:18:19 PMNot sure the midfield is the priority , we need to concentrate on centre back, right back and possible replacements for Sess., Mitrovic and Babel.
From Daily Mail.
Fulham eyeing up move for Leeds United's Adam Forshaw as manager Scott Parker looks to bolster his midfield ahead of the new season
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 04:19:26 AM
If Fulham are to achieve 100 points and get promoted then there is work to be done. They will need stronger characters, a few Mavericks and Leaders. More Height, physicality and pace in the team, and players with hearts the size of a football, and a settled and balanced side.
Where is the evidence so far, and do not rely on TK, he couldn't build a sandcastle on Bondi beach, or sell a life belt to a drowning man.
You have to be less optimistic and more realistic. Misfortune weighs heavily on those that expect nothing but good fortune.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 06:48:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 04:19:26 AM
If Fulham are to achieve 100 points and get promoted then there is work to be done. They will need stronger characters, a few Mavericks and Leaders. More Height, physicality and pace in the team, and players with hearts the size of a football, and a settled and balanced side.
Where is the evidence so far, and do not rely on TK, he couldn't build a sandcastle on Bondi beach, or sell a life belt to a drowning man.
You have to be less optimistic and more realistic. Misfortune weighs heavily on those that expect nothing but good fortune.
Damn Right, there is work to be done. ON THE TRAINING PITCH! and ON MATCHDAY! and THEY NEED TO TOUGHEN UP!
The players are good enough, if Seri puts his mind to it he can be better than Norwood (i.e. PFA team of the year).
In fact 7 players: Betts, Mawson, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney and Mitrovoic are all good enough for PFA team of the Year.
With another 9 players: Rodak, Christie, Odoi, Ream, MLM, McDonald, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye should be Championship ready.
Plus whatever we can get with the sale of the Sessegnon Twins and any youth coming though.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on June 16, 2019, 08:13:42 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 06:48:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 04:19:26 AM
If Fulham are to achieve 100 points and get promoted then there is work to be done. They will need stronger characters, a few Mavericks and Leaders. More Height, physicality and pace in the team, and players with hearts the size of a football, and a settled and balanced side.
Where is the evidence so far, and do not rely on TK, he couldn't build a sandcastle on Bondi beach, or sell a life belt to a drowning man.
You have to be less optimistic and more realistic. Misfortune weighs heavily on those that expect nothing but good fortune.
Damn Right, there is work to be done. ON THE TRAINING PITCH! and ON MATCHDAY! and THEY NEED TO TOUGHEN UP!
The players are good enough, if Seri puts his mind to it he can be better than Norwood (i.e. PFA team of the year).
In fact 7 players: Betts, Mawson, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney and Mitrovoic are all good enough for PFA team of the Year.
With another 9 players: Rodak, Christie, Odoi, Ream, MLM, McDonald, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye should be Championship ready.
Plus whatever we can get with the sale of the Sessegnon Twins and any youth coming though.
RATIONAL: based on or in accordance with reason or logic.
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Mmmmmm! I don't think so!
Yet again, none of the above apply to so many of your comments!
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 09:09:49 AMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on June 16, 2019, 08:13:42 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 06:48:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 04:19:26 AM
If Fulham are to achieve 100 points and get promoted then there is work to be done. They will need stronger characters, a few Mavericks and Leaders. More Height, physicality and pace in the team, and players with hearts the size of a football, and a settled and balanced side.
Where is the evidence so far, and do not rely on TK, he couldn't build a sandcastle on Bondi beach, or sell a life belt to a drowning man.
You have to be less optimistic and more realistic. Misfortune weighs heavily on those that expect nothing but good fortune.
Damn Right, there is work to be done. ON THE TRAINING PITCH! and ON MATCHDAY! and THEY NEED TO TOUGHEN UP!
The players are good enough, if Seri puts his mind to it he can be better than Norwood (i.e. PFA team of the year).
In fact 7 players: Betts, Mawson, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney and Mitrovoic are all good enough for PFA team of the Year.
With another 9 players: Rodak, Christie, Odoi, Ream, MLM, McDonald, Johansen, Kamara and Atiye should be Championship ready.
Plus whatever we can get with the sale of the Sessegnon Twins and any youth coming though.
RATIONAL: based on or in accordance with reason or logic.
synonyms: logical, reasoned, well reasoned, sensible, reasonable, cogent, coherent, intelligent, wise, judicious, sagacious, astute, shrewd, perceptive, enlightened, clear-eyed, clear-sighted, common-sense, well advised, well grounded, sound, sober, prudent, circumspect.
Mmmmmm! I don't think so!
Yet again, none of the above apply to so many of your comments!
OK, get specific.
Which player "IF THEY WORK HARD ON THE TRAINING PITCH" out of Betts, Mawson, Bryan, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney and Mitrovoic is not capable of having a season as good as Norwood's 18/19 season?
I am not saying they will make "PFA Team of the Year" only that i believe seven players are good enough if they apply themselves.
Here are some clear reasons.
Betts - the second half of 17/18 season just needs to be matched all season and PFA team of the year is a possibility.
Cairney - made PFA Team of the season twice and he did that in seasons where he wasn't even fit all season.
Mitrovoic - if he can play his next 45 matches in the championship as well as his last 15 games in the Championship, PFA Player of the Year is His.
Mawson - he has played for England and is at an age that defenders should be improving, he could be the best centre back in the league.
Bryan - according to statistics the second best championship left wing back in the Championship of 17/18 and could improve.
Seri - his season of 16/17 in Ligue 1 was superior to anything ever produced by Oliver Norwood who made team of the year.
Anguissa - his best performances for Marseille, Cameroon and Fulham would demand PFA Team of the Year, he jsut needs to be consistently good.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 11:08:25 AM
It seems FFC are looking to buy Adam Forshaw; and sell both Seri and Anguissa to pay for him.
Big mistake if you ask me, we get so little profit from Seri and Anguissa better to keep them and not buy Adam Forshaw.
Quote from: hovewhite on June 15, 2019, 01:04:49 PMMitroglu, Jozabed, Anguissa Seri profitable? (Just to name a few!), #JUSTSAYIN
TK for his faults picking players,from seeing the fees he's got in from player sales then this is a strength So can't see Mitro going without a profit for the club.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on June 16, 2019, 11:02:27 AM
Having to tell an international player to"Toughen up" at this stage in his career is not a cogent argument towards winning ways.
Expecting certain players to reproduce their "promotion form 2 seasons on is not reasonable or astute.
Basing what a player can do for you in English football on what he achieved in a foreign league is not wise or judicious.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 11:08:25 AM
It seems FFC are looking to buy Adam Forshaw; and sell both Seri and Anguissa to pay for him. Big mistake if you ask me.
Fulham FC will get so little profit from Seri and Anguissa, it's better to keep them and not buy Adam Forshaw. ROAD TO RUIN.
Quote from: RaySmith on June 16, 2019, 12:06:05 PM
I have a feeling that we could see one, or both of Seri and Anguisa,, featuring in the Championship for us, at least for a time.
Bryan Ruiz stayed at the club after relegation, probably not by his or the club's choice, though didn't play regularly until Kit became manager.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 12:50:37 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.
If we sell Sessegnon for £20m profit, Seri for £20m loss, Mitrovoic for £10m profit and Anguissa for £10m loss, then we have sold four players with £0m to buy new players.
ROAD TO RUIN. I'd prefer to give them a chance to get us out of the league than rely on kids to get us out of the Championship.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 01:10:31 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 12:50:37 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.
If we sell Sessegnon for £20m profit, Seri for £20m loss, Mitrovoic for £10m profit and Anguissa for £10m loss, then we have sold four players with £0m to buy new players.
ROAD TO RUIN. I'd prefer to give them a chance to get us out of the league than rely on kids to get us out of the Championship.
Then if the club takes your road, which is more of a dirt track with enough potholes for Fulhams wheels to come off, and the AA will not rescue them as having TK in his position disqualifies them and make Fulham exempt. It will be the mother of bumpy rides end with a multiple car crash with TK at the wheel. Plenty of three point turns to delay progress, the only good news for you is you will not be in any danger breaking the speed limit, more middle of the road delaying the traffic behind you, with your passengers in the back seat like Seri and Zambo to name but two, counting the days down to when they can jump ship.
As my Road will have fresh tarmac and unlike your un made road full of nails to puncture progress, there will be no yellow lines depicting a weak backbone. No red lines either, it will be a one way street with every player heading in the right direction, there will be no U turns. Mine will be a smooth ride with no traffic.
You will also lose your licence for driving a three wheeler without due care and attention and without an MOT.
The last thing you will see is my exhaust fumes way ahead in front of you accelerating in the distance.
Leaving you to fall off the back of your lorry, as you will be running on empty.
Happy Fathers Day. 🍺
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 01:10:31 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 12:50:37 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.
If we sell Sessegnon for £20m profit, Seri for £20m loss, Mitrovoic for £10m profit and Anguissa for £10m loss, then we have sold four players with £0m to buy new players.
ROAD TO RUIN. I'd prefer to give them a chance to get us out of the league than rely on kids to get us out of the Championship.
Then if the club takes your road, which is more of a dirt track with enough potholes for Fulhams wheels to come off, and the AA will not rescue them as having TK in his position disqualifies them and make Fulham exempt. It will be the mother of bumpy rides end with a multiple car crash with TK at the wheel. Plenty of three point turns to delay progress, the only good news for you is you will not be in any danger breaking the speed limit, more middle of the road delaying the traffic behind you, with your passengers in the back seat like Seri and Zambo to name but two, counting the days down to when they can jump ship.
As my Road will have fresh tarmac and unlike your un made road full of nails to puncture progress, there will be no yellow lines depicting a weak backbone. No red lines either, it will be a one way street with every player heading in the right direction, there will be no U turns. Mine will be a smooth ride with no traffic.
You will also lose your licence for driving a three wheeler without due care and attention and without an MOT.
The last thing you will see is my exhaust fumes way ahead in front of you accelerating in the distance.
Leaving you to fall off the back of your lorry, as you will be running on empty.
Happy Fathers Day. 🍺
Quote from: RaySmith on June 16, 2019, 12:06:05 PM
I have a feeling that we could see one, or both of Seri and Anguisa,, featuring in the Championship for us, at least for a time.
Bryan Ruiz stayed at the club after relegation, probably not by his or the club's choice, though didn't play regularly until Kit became manager.
Quote from: elgreenio on June 16, 2019, 03:22:22 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 01:10:31 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 16, 2019, 12:50:37 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 16, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Anguisa and Seri have got to do a lot better to convince me they can hack it in the Championship.
Neither of them punch their weight or lead by example, body language shows weak character because they seem to not fancy a battle when the going gets tough. Expensive passengers if their attitude does not improve. I would rather see them sold now, if we make a loss, that shows how much Fulham overpaid for them, they are another pair of expensive mistakes.
If we sell Sessegnon for £20m profit, Seri for £20m loss, Mitrovoic for £10m profit and Anguissa for £10m loss, then we have sold four players with £0m to buy new players.
ROAD TO RUIN. I'd prefer to give them a chance to get us out of the league than rely on kids to get us out of the Championship.
Then if the club takes your road, which is more of a dirt track with enough potholes for Fulhams wheels to come off, and the AA will not rescue them as having TK in his position disqualifies them and make Fulham exempt. It will be the mother of bumpy rides end with a multiple car crash with TK at the wheel. Plenty of three point turns to delay progress, the only good news for you is you will not be in any danger breaking the speed limit, more middle of the road delaying the traffic behind you, with your passengers in the back seat like Seri and Zambo to name but two, counting the days down to when they can jump ship.
As my Road will have fresh tarmac and unlike your un made road full of nails to puncture progress, there will be no yellow lines depicting a weak backbone. No red lines either, it will be a one way street with every player heading in the right direction, there will be no U turns. Mine will be a smooth ride with no traffic.
You will also lose your licence for driving a three wheeler without due care and attention and without an MOT.
The last thing you will see is my exhaust fumes way ahead in front of you accelerating in the distance.
Leaving you to fall off the back of your lorry, as you will be running on empty.
Happy Fathers Day. 🍺
you ok Woolly? :62:
on topic I'm still hoping Seri stays, i'd back him to be our player of the year next year
Quote from: Woodlawn on June 16, 2019, 07:11:50 PM
Spoke to a certain Newcastle player(yes that one) today in Portugal . Wouldn't give much away but said he expects changes at Newcastle in next month..Asked about us and he said just spec. Also said he is staying in the Algarve till end of June as not back in training till 4th July
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 07:53:46 AMApparently we had a bid rejected last month, bid circa 8 million according to the press
Radio Ga Ga.
" Fulham in bid to bring Neil Etheridge back"
Quote from: junior white on June 17, 2019, 08:56:11 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 07:53:46 AMApparently we had a bid rejected last month, bid circa 8 million according to the press
Radio Ga Ga.
" Fulham in bid to bring Neil Etheridge back"
Quote from: snarks on June 17, 2019, 09:43:41 AMgood point,remember Briggs,what happened to him,harvey might not make the cut who knows.
Why is there something wrong at the club if a young player leaves? It's not like Chelsea where such players do not get first team opportunities. It's possibly agents telling them they are better than they are. I can't recall any of the youngsters who have left so far excelling when they have gone. Roberts and Hyndman being prime examples.
Quote from: snarks on June 17, 2019, 09:43:41 AM
Why is there something wrong at the club if a young player leaves? It's not like Chelsea where such players do not get first team opportunities. It's possibly agents telling them they are better than they are. I can't recall any of the youngsters who have left so far excelling when they have gone. Roberts and Hyndman being prime examples.
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on June 17, 2019, 10:19:32 AM
The fact that Roberts and Hyndman have not progressed quickly in a way proves my point because they could have just as easily worked their way up at Fulham and then moved on. Hyndman was advised to move on a year before he did by the then USA manager (exGerman international?) so he obviously thought that he need experience elsewhere. He is still on the edge of the first team
It is rumoured that the club will only deal with certain agents and that does not include some of the biggest that certain of our players have signed up for.
I don't know how true this is and if so why ? Dromeh (sorry about the spelling) gone, Elliott going, and O'Reilly next. Probably followed by Ryan and Steven.
All of a sudden the cupboard is bare of young talent to an extent that has never occurred before.
Agents yes, but the club must take some blame for this.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 07:53:46 AM
Radio Ga Ga.
" Fulham in bid to bring Neil Etheridge back"
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 17, 2019, 11:18:08 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 07:53:46 AM
Radio Ga Ga.
" Fulham in bid to bring Neil Etheridge back"
I hope not, I don't rate him like some, we have better potential Goalkeepers coming through our ranks, spending precious money on him would be a waste. He would not be a step up.
Quote from: grandad on June 16, 2019, 07:25:43 PM
Just my thoughts. Sell Sess for a minimum of £25 mil but to include a 50% sell on clause & no loan to a Championship side. If we have to, sell Mitrovic for a minimum of £50 mil. Sell Seri for what we can get. Buy Gayle, Assambolonga, a Dominant CB, a DM to cover McDonald & a RB. Champions elect.
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on June 17, 2019, 11:16:58 AM
Maybe we should employ Briggs in our Academy as an advisor to give our young superstars a little reality check.
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on June 17, 2019, 10:19:32 AM
The fact that Roberts and Hyndman have not progressed quickly in a way proves my point because they could have just as easily worked their way up at Fulham and then moved on.
Quote from: grandad on June 16, 2019, 07:25:43 PMYes that is the obvious route Parker and the procurement team should be looking at but the trick is to avoid more duds for the centre back and right back positions.
Just my thoughts. Sell Sess for a minimum of £25 mil but to include a 50% sell on clause & no loan to a Championship side. If we have to, sell Mitrovic for a minimum of £50 mil. Sell Seri for what we can get. Buy Gayle, Assambolonga, a Dominant CB, a DM to cover McDonald & a RB. Champions elect.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2019, 06:16:43 PMAny one surprised at that, the question of course is can they afford him.
WBA want Gayle back.
Quote from: Rambler on June 17, 2019, 09:50:28 PMBasically Agents telling their charges they are worth more and can earn more elsewhere.
What is going on with our academy at the moment? Heavy rumours that we are about to lose 3 or 4 of our top youth prospects for peanuts as they all reject new deals.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on June 17, 2019, 10:22:12 PMSounds obvious, one rumour doing the rounds is Elliot wants circa 10k per week, don't know and don't care if it is true. But that's a lot of money
Why not pay them what they want and sign them to 3 year contracts and then flog them in a year, if they are that good how can we lose out? Unless they are not that good of course!
Or is that stating the bleeding obvious.
Quote from: sarnian on June 17, 2019, 11:02:24 PM
According to a poster on another site who watches a lot of games at Motspur most of those mentioned are a long long way from the first team.
Quote from: Rambler on June 17, 2019, 09:50:28 PM
What is going on with our academy at the moment? Heavy rumours that we are about to lose 3 or 4 of our top youth prospects for peanuts as they all reject new deals.
Quote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.
Quote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.
Quote from: hovewhite on June 18, 2019, 05:44:00 AM
Are our youngsters that good?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AMQuote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.
If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 09:00:00 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AMQuote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.
If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.
He can't sign a five year contract due to his age.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 09:35:31 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 09:00:00 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AMQuote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.
If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.
He can't sign a five year contract due to his age.
So whats the choice, is it "if we don't pay Elliott £520k next season we'll lose him now, if we do then we'll lose just after his 17th Birthday for free".
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 10:01:05 AMJust to clarify i said the 10k was a rumour floating around. But due to his age the longest deal we can offer is a 3 year contract i believe.Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 09:35:31 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 09:00:00 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AMQuote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.
If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.
He can't sign a five year contract due to his age.
So whats the choice, is it "if we don't pay Elliott £520k next season we'll lose him now, if we do then we'll lose just after his 17th Birthday for free".
No, that's not it since we don't know the numbers. We can choose how much we are prepared to pay him now for the next year, whatever that sum may be. If he disagrees he is gone. He could also have non-financial reasons to want to move, and may be gone even if we offer him stupid amounts.
Then we have the same procedure next year if he stays, with the opportunity for us to offer an actual professional contract up to three years (like the ones the Sessegnon's and Matt O'Riley signed, with Steven Sess having already signed another extension). So, in short yes, he can opt to leave this year and he can do the same next year. If he goes abroad we will get basically nothing at all in compensation. This is not at all in the hands of the club, other than that they have a few more days to convince him by whatever means.
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 10:01:05 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 09:35:31 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 09:00:00 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 08:40:17 AMQuote from: grandad on June 18, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Elliott wants 10 k a week. What on earth is a 16 yo going to spend it on? Not old enough to drive, drink, shave. I see him going down the slippery slope to oblivion.
If he'd sign a five year contract that he couldn't get out cause he's a kid, i'd recommend paying him double that.
He can't sign a five year contract due to his age.
So whats the choice, is it "if we don't pay Elliott £520k next season we'll lose him now, if we do then we'll lose just after his 17th Birthday for free".
No, that's not it since we don't know the numbers. We can choose how much we are prepared to pay him now for the next year, whatever that sum may be. If he disagrees he is gone. He could also have non-financial reasons to want to move, and may be gone even if we offer him stupid amounts.
Then we have the same procedure next year if he stays, with the opportunity for us to offer an actual professional contract up to three years (like the ones the Sessegnon's and Matt O'Riley signed, with Steven Sess having already signed another extension). So, in short yes, he can opt to leave this year and he can do the same next year. If he goes abroad we will get basically nothing at all in compensation. This is not at all in the hands of the club, other than that they have a few more days to convince him by whatever means.
Quote from: junior white on June 18, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Just to clarify i said the 10k was a rumour floating around. But due to his age the longest deal we can offer is a 3 year contract i believe.
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 11:06:39 AMYuen's my mistake i thought he was 17Quote from: junior white on June 18, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Just to clarify i said the 10k was a rumour floating around. But due to his age the longest deal we can offer is a 3 year contract i believe.
I don't think we can offer him a 3 year contract until he is 17, which is next spring. In order to get something financially out of this, we will have to convince him to stay for a year and then convince him to sign a contract next year.
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 11:06:39 AMQuote from: junior white on June 18, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Just to clarify i said the 10k was a rumour floating around. But due to his age the longest deal we can offer is a 3 year contract i believe.
I don't think we can offer him a 3 year contract until he is 17, which is next spring. In order to get something financially out of this, we will have to convince him to stay for a year and then convince him to sign a contract next year.
Quote from: Nero on June 18, 2019, 01:21:27 PMThe work around is something to do with migration, EU member states and both his parents are originally from Spain.Quote from: Sting of the North on June 18, 2019, 11:06:39 AMQuote from: junior white on June 18, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Just to clarify i said the 10k was a rumour floating around. But due to his age the longest deal we can offer is a 3 year contract i believe.
I don't think we can offer him a 3 year contract until he is 17, which is next spring. In order to get something financially out of this, we will have to convince him to stay for a year and then convince him to sign a contract next year.
isn't there rules around under 18s moving abroad, isn't that what Chelsea got done for.
Quote from: Riversider on June 19, 2019, 12:15:46 AM
Score update
QPR 3
Fulham 0
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 07:34:22 AMQuote from: Riversider on June 19, 2019, 12:15:46 AM
Score update
QPR 3
Fulham 0
Hopefully we will at least go for far better players. They are not looking like they aim for the PL with those transfers, to put it kindly.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 19, 2019, 07:55:36 AMLondon and the hope that he might play for the Toffs up the road one day.Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 07:34:22 AMQuote from: Riversider on June 19, 2019, 12:15:46 AM
Score update
QPR 3
Fulham 0
Hopefully we will at least go for far better players. They are not looking like they aim for the PL with those transfers, to put it kindly.
The keeper is highly rated,don't know why he chose Ha Ha's as Celtic,WBA and Leipzig were in for him.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 19, 2019, 03:40:16 PM
Charlie Adam having a medical.
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PMQuote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.
Surely they have both email and phones in the United States? Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 03:57:16 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PMQuote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.
Surely they have both email and phones in the United States? Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?
I'm not sure how people can expect him to do anything while he's away with AEW, its a full time job, until he's back he won't realistically have any time for transfer business, and nothing can be signed off without him. Its not like he's away on a relaxing break and can take calls regarding something else, he is working setting up a brand new company from scratch.
There is no point us even speculating until he's back, nothing can be done until then due to our system. He is required to approve and sign off all transfers, and scouting/stats all come under him.
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 03:57:16 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PMQuote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.
Surely they have both email and phones in the United States? Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?
I'm not sure how people can expect him to do anything while he's away with AEW, its a full time job, until he's back he won't realistically have any time for transfer business, and nothing can be signed off without him. Its not like he's away on a relaxing break and can take calls regarding something else, he is working setting up a brand new company from scratch.
There is no point us even speculating until he's back, nothing can be done until then due to our system. He is required to approve and sign off all transfers, and scouting/stats all come under him.
Quote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 03:57:16 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PMQuote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.
Surely they have both email and phones in the United States? Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?
I'm not sure how people can expect him to do anything while he's away with AEW, its a full time job, until he's back he won't realistically have any time for transfer business, and nothing can be signed off without him. Its not like he's away on a relaxing break and can take calls regarding something else, he is working setting up a brand new company from scratch.
There is no point us even speculating until he's back, nothing can be done until then due to our system. He is required to approve and sign off all transfers, and scouting/stats all come under him.
Quote from: Milo on June 19, 2019, 04:48:22 PMhe's an ignoramus
You would think if you knew relatively nothing about a subject you'd at least spend all your time getting to know it!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 19, 2019, 03:40:16 PM
Charlie Adam having a medical.
Quote from: Rambler on June 17, 2019, 09:50:28 PM
What is going on with our academy at the moment? Heavy rumours that we are about to lose 3 or 4 of our top youth prospects for peanuts as they all reject new deals.
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 19, 2019, 06:50:59 PM
According to reports on Twitter, we've turned down €20M for Mitro and most clubs are put off signing him because he's on £70k a week. Dean Jones who's a Fulham supporting journo says we're planning to offer him a TC style extension which waives his relegation clause, and if so would be some statement of intent to keep him for at least one more season - just a shame Sess has his heart set on stunting his development as a benchwarmer...
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 19, 2019, 09:19:16 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on June 19, 2019, 06:50:59 PM
According to reports on Twitter, we've turned down €20M for Mitro and most clubs are put off signing him because he's on £70k a week. Dean Jones who's a Fulham supporting journo says we're planning to offer him a TC style extension which waives his relegation clause, and if so would be some statement of intent to keep him for at least one more season - just a shame Sess has his heart set on stunting his development as a benchwarmer...
Do we know how much the clause is? I'd be fuming if we sold for less than we bought him for. Hopefully his poor end of season form is what they remember.
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.
Quote from: Milo on June 19, 2019, 10:53:24 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.
Agree
Quote from: Riversider on June 20, 2019, 12:49:07 AMI think the mods said it doesn't have to be factual on this thread.
I would give anything to one day click on the summer transfer gossip thread, to actually read some transfer gossip !
Not too much to ask is it ?
Can we save all the banal crap for a separate thread.
Quote from: Riversider on June 20, 2019, 12:49:07 AMIt is Gossip Thread. You'll find the Gospel Truth somewhere else but not for quite a while I fancy.
I would give anything to one day click on the summer transfer gossip thread, to actually read some transfer gossip !
Not too much to ask is it ?
Can we save all the banal crap for a separate thread.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 20, 2019, 12:28:01 AMQuote from: Milo on June 19, 2019, 10:53:24 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.
Agree
If Sessegnon wins a "match of the match" for u21 England in the next few days, then Fulham will get a huge payday soon and i wouldn't be selling Mitro if we have plenty of cash.
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 20, 2019, 08:23:52 AMTend to agree they should have, but I would also say that if they watched some of the performances last season then the fee may well have reduced. I do say that taking into account as a team we didnt play well a lot of the time and the clueless Ranieri damaging his confidence.Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 20, 2019, 12:28:01 AMQuote from: Milo on June 19, 2019, 10:53:24 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.
Agree
If Sessegnon wins a "match of the match" for u21 England in the next few days, then Fulham will get a huge payday soon and i wouldn't be selling Mitro if we have plenty of cash.
I know I have challenged this, in my opinion, extremely narrow view before, but really Sessegnon has already proved himself in far more competitive environments than an under 21 tournament. I would guess that any impact on price is marginal at best, regardless of whether he stink or shine. Any half decent professional would instead already have watched many of his over 100 senior games if they were seriously interested in buying Sessegnon. But what do I know.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 10:18:11 AMThey've (FFC) learnt from their mistakes and are working (or was it w@n king) tirelessly behind the scenes to bring in players before the 31st of August...
Obviously no sign or word of anyone signing then.😠
Quote from: junior white on June 20, 2019, 10:13:26 AMWatching the first England u21 game I did feel the leftovers from Ranieri's senseless actions are still haunting the teenager. RS could do with some serious work from people he has turned to in the past and that may be SP rather than anyone else. He has a tough call to make for himself but I feel the contract extension is a whole separate issue which FFC may be handling with a lot of latitude on both sides. Of course we will not know what happens behind the scenes and we will get frustrated by that but I wouldn't want to call it right now in the way some people are calling it. The Ranieri period will have demonstrated to RS just how one decision made by owners of a club can change the way you feel about life.Quote from: Sting of the North on June 20, 2019, 08:23:52 AMTend to agree they should have, but I would also say that if they watched some of the performances last season then the fee may well have reduced. I do say that taking into account as a team we didnt play well a lot of the time and the clueless Ranieri damaging his confidence.Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 20, 2019, 12:28:01 AMQuote from: Milo on June 19, 2019, 10:53:24 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on June 19, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Surely we could use some of the Sessegnon money to fund Mitros wages. I dont think we will be able to buy a better striker.
Agree
If Sessegnon wins a "match of the match" for u21 England in the next few days, then Fulham will get a huge payday soon and i wouldn't be selling Mitro if we have plenty of cash.
I know I have challenged this, in my opinion, extremely narrow view before, but really Sessegnon has already proved himself in far more competitive environments than an under 21 tournament. I would guess that any impact on price is marginal at best, regardless of whether he stink or shine. Any half decent professional would instead already have watched many of his over 100 senior games if they were seriously interested in buying Sessegnon. But what do I know.
Quote from: David I on June 20, 2019, 10:32:01 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 10:18:11 AMThey've (FFC) learnt from their mistakes and are working (or was it w@n king) tirelessly behind the scenes to bring in players before the 31st of August...
Obviously no sign or word of anyone signing then.😠
Wonder which injured players they are looking this season?
Quote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
There are plenty of people out there in the work place who don't have a history in the industry they're working in. They're there because of their particular skill set.
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2019, 01:30:16 PMQuote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
There are plenty of people out there in the work place who don't have a history in the industry they're working in. They're there because of their particular skill set.
I accept there are roles for people with a different "skill set". Psychologists to work with the players, even mathematics and IT experts to support the use of statistics in player recruitment, etc.
The problem with TK is not only does he have no background in football, but he doesn't appear to have any relevant qualifications, experience or skills at all.
When he became involved in Fulham, he was 30 years old. His friend whose name we no longer mention was a law graduate (which BTW, requires full time study to at least the age of 24 in the US) who TK had met at college. They were not, for example, a couple of maths geniuses who decided to apply their data analytical skills to football.
Quote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 02:03:34 PMQuote from: Statto on June 20, 2019, 01:30:16 PMQuote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
There are plenty of people out there in the work place who don't have a history in the industry they're working in. They're there because of their particular skill set.
I accept there are roles for people with a different "skill set". Psychologists to work with the players, even mathematics and IT experts to support the use of statistics in player recruitment, etc.
The problem with TK is not only does he have no background in football, but he doesn't appear to have any relevant qualifications, experience or skills at all.
When he became involved in Fulham, he was 30 years old. His friend whose name we no longer mention was a law graduate (which BTW, requires full time study to at least the age of 24 in the US) who TK had met at college. They were not, for example, a couple of maths geniuses who decided to apply their data analytical skills to football.
So he's only in the job because his dad owns the Club?
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 04:13:23 PMQuote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 03:57:16 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on June 19, 2019, 03:53:38 PMQuote from: Chutney on June 19, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Tony Khan is still in the USA on business with AEW, we won't do any business until he returns. No point us getting our panties in a bunch until then, nothing we can do without him.
Surely they have both email and phones in the United States? Or is TK also conducting any medicals himself, since that might actually require him to be physically present?
I'm not sure how people can expect him to do anything while he's away with AEW, its a full time job, until he's back he won't realistically have any time for transfer business, and nothing can be signed off without him. Its not like he's away on a relaxing break and can take calls regarding something else, he is working setting up a brand new company from scratch.
There is no point us even speculating until he's back, nothing can be done until then due to our system. He is required to approve and sign off all transfers, and scouting/stats all come under him.
So you mean that not only is it not possible for TK to work on more than one thing at a time, but him not being in the UK also means that no other person involved in transfers can do anything? I don't think that TK is personally doing everything from actual data analysis to scouting to every single part of negotiations for every inbound and outbound transfer.
This is surely complete nonsense. I mean, it is of course possible that TK is completely ignoring FFC at the moment, but that is obviously not because it would be impossible for a person to work on multiple projects simultaneously. And again, things can be handled remotely, this goes also for approvals and sign offs.
Lastly, regardless of the above, why would we not speculate in the meantime?
Quote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 02:03:34 PMQuote from: Statto on June 20, 2019, 01:30:16 PMQuote from: I Ronic on June 20, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
There are plenty of people out there in the work place who don't have a history in the industry they're working in. They're there because of their particular skill set.
I accept there are roles for people with a different "skill set". Psychologists to work with the players, even mathematics and IT experts to support the use of statistics in player recruitment, etc.
The problem with TK is not only does he have no background in football, but he doesn't appear to have any relevant qualifications, experience or skills at all.
When he became involved in Fulham, he was 30 years old. His friend whose name we no longer mention was a law graduate (which BTW, requires full time study to at least the age of 24 in the US) who TK had met at college. They were not, for example, a couple of maths geniuses who decided to apply their data analytical skills to football.
So he's only in the job because his dad owns the Club?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 06:14:26 PM
Stoke in for Gayle... Geordies want £20 mill.
Quote from: Chutney on June 20, 2019, 05:54:25 PM
He is currently away with AEW, that is taking all of hsi time currently, he will then split his time upon returning between us, AEW and the Jags.
I didn't say he is doing everything as a one man band, I just said that without him here to sign off on things, they scouts etc can only go on previous instruction, and no negotiations/deals can't be completed, this is a fact, its how our recruitment system works. He must personally sign off on any deals or they don't get completed.
Ideally we'd have DOF without any other roles, as DOF of a professional football club should be a full time role. Unfortunately we don't have that option.
Its fine, speculate all you want, I'm just telling you its pointless as nothing will be happening currently regarding bringing new faces in any further than producing a list of names, things will start once Tony Khan is back from working on his other roles.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:01:29 PM
Another week about to be gone.
Mitro, Sess, Anguissa and TC are still Whites.
I'm :yay: :yay: :yay:
Good transfer window so far. Transfer rumors suck anyway.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 20, 2019, 07:09:54 PM
😁 funny...
Moaning about no signings and waiting to moan about a signing!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:09:46 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:01:29 PM
Another week about to be gone.
Mitro, Sess, Anguissa and TC are still Whites.
I'm :yay: :yay: :yay:
Good transfer window so far. Transfer rumors suck anyway.
We all know TC is staying.
But doubt the other 3 will be.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:14:27 PMLeftie?Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 20, 2019, 07:09:54 PM
😁 funny...
Moaning about no signings and waiting to moan about a signing!
What the feck you on about leftie😜
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:23:31 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?
More than Seri?? He didn't even play Seri until he needed to.
Where did you hear this? It looked to me like he saw potential in Anguissa. What funds?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:23:31 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?
More than Seri?? He didn't even play Seri until he needed to.
Where did you hear this? It looked to me like he saw potential in Anguissa. What funds?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:23:31 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?
More than Seri?? He didn't even play Seri until he needed to.
Where did you hear this? It looked to me like he saw potential in Anguissa. What funds?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:33:50 PMSorry Mince think it was the "Leftie" bit!
Brede....I was having a laugh,don't take everything
I say seriously.😊
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 07:24:38 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?
Best outcome would be get rid of Seri, Christie and Fabri. That would easily cover maintaining Anguissa, Mitro and Sess's prem wages
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 20, 2019, 07:35:58 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:33:50 PMSorry Mince think it was the "Leftie" bit!
Brede....I was having a laugh,don't take everything
I say seriously.😊
Having a bad time recently and only Fulham and Cricket (England) keeping me going!
Apologies
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:37:56 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 07:24:38 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?
Best outcome would be get rid of Seri, Christie and Fabri. That would easily cover maintaining Anguissa, Mitro and Sess's prem wages
Sessegnon won't be on anything close to Prem wages considering the last contract he signed was in 2017 when he hadn't properly broken into the first team. Even with a promotion increase, he'll have been at the lower end of our earners last season. Unless you're thinking he'll sign a new deal of course, which he's made very clear he won't.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 07:41:39 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:37:56 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 07:24:38 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Would be great if Mitro and Sess stayed.
I have heard though that Parker wants Anguissa away... For funds?
Best outcome would be get rid of Seri, Christie and Fabri. That would easily cover maintaining Anguissa, Mitro and Sess's prem wages
Sessegnon won't be on anything close to Prem wages considering the last contract he signed was in 2017 when he hadn't properly broken into the first team. Even with a promotion increase, he'll have been at the lower end of our earners last season. Unless you're thinking he'll sign a new deal of course, which he's made very clear he won't.
How much WEEKLY salary do you think Sess is going to make from a team this season compared to if he were to stay at Fulham and leave on the free the following season.
Spurs and Liverpool this year have to pay something for him to the team AND pay him a wage. Sess only sees the wage.
He can double his wage offer from a team if he has a good year in the championship and the buying team doesn't have to pay a transfer fee.
Quote from: Tabby on June 20, 2019, 07:43:41 PM
I would be astounded if Sess and Seri stayed. I think Anguissa would only leave if there are suitable bids, but I don't think anyone will pay what we'd want after his last season.
Feeling quietly confident that Mitro will be here next season.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:50:45 PMQuote from: Tabby on June 20, 2019, 07:43:41 PM
I would be astounded if Sess and Seri stayed. I think Anguissa would only leave if there are suitable bids, but I don't think anyone will pay what we'd want after his last season.
Feeling quietly confident that Mitro will be here next season.
I've always thought Sessegnon and Seri are gone and Mitrovic and Zambo could stay depending on what offers came in for them. Selling Sessegnon and Seri should bring in 45-50m, add on the little fees we'll get for Fabri, Cisse etc. it should give us some spending power this summer.
But until we get some movement out the door I'm not expecting someone like a Cavaleiro to be signed for 12m, we'll probably be stuck with loans and frees. We might be able to get someone like Forshaw for 3-4m, but I can't see us properly splashing out. Not much wrong with that though, there's some good options out there like a Tomori on loan for example (although Lampard might want to keep him given they have the embargo).
Quote from: JoelH5 on June 20, 2019, 08:00:58 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 07:50:45 PMQuote from: Tabby on June 20, 2019, 07:43:41 PM
I would be astounded if Sess and Seri stayed. I think Anguissa would only leave if there are suitable bids, but I don't think anyone will pay what we'd want after his last season.
Feeling quietly confident that Mitro will be here next season.
I've always thought Sessegnon and Seri are gone and Mitrovic and Zambo could stay depending on what offers came in for them. Selling Sessegnon and Seri should bring in 45-50m, add on the little fees we'll get for Fabri, Cisse etc. it should give us some spending power this summer.
But until we get some movement out the door I'm not expecting someone like a Cavaleiro to be signed for 12m, we'll probably be stuck with loans and frees. We might be able to get someone like Forshaw for 3-4m, but I can't see us properly splashing out. Not much wrong with that though, there's some good options out there like a Tomori on loan for example (although Lampard might want to keep him given they have the embargo).
Lampard will be at Chelsea so who knows
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:05:53 PM
Why is Sess worth 30 million?
Seriously...I know it was thought he was definitely starter premier league quality...but he's not. He won't start on the Spurs A team...well, unless he get's minutes as a left back.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 08:14:09 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:05:53 PM
Why is Sess worth 30 million?
Seriously...I know it was thought he was definitely starter premier league quality...but he's not. He won't start on the Spurs A team...well, unless he get's minutes as a left back.
He's 19 with over 100 senior games and 30 odd games in the Prem when most players his age are lucky to get 10 minutes in the Prem when their team is 5-0 up (Foden).
Plus, he could find a home as a LWB given Pochettino rotates between a 3 and 4 at the back. Same reason I think Inter are in for him as per reports today given Conte's come in there and we all know the system he favours.
And, how much is anyone worth? What the club they're at values him at. Same reason Wan-Bissaka's worth 55m, Harry Maguire's supposedly worth 80m and Real Madrid are practically trying to give James Rodriguez away to Napoli.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:18:21 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 08:14:09 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:05:53 PM
Why is Sess worth 30 million?
Seriously...I know it was thought he was definitely starter premier league quality...but he's not. He won't start on the Spurs A team...well, unless he get's minutes as a left back.
He's 19 with over 100 senior games and 30 odd games in the Prem when most players his age are lucky to get 10 minutes in the Prem when their team is 5-0 up (Foden).
Plus, he could find a home as a LWB given Pochettino rotates between a 3 and 4 at the back. Same reason I think Inter are in for him as per reports today given Conte's come in there and we all know the system he favours.
And, how much is anyone worth? What the club they're at values him at. Same reason Wan-Bissaka's worth 55m, Harry Maguire's supposedly worth 80m and Real Madrid are practically trying to give James Rodriguez away to Napoli.
Wan-Bissaka and Harry Maguire just had good seasons in the premier league.
I wouldn't even say Sess had a good season. I'd say his season was below average with limited minutes on a squad that started Vietto and Schurrle over him. And Joe Bryan or MLM over him at LB.
Again, why is he worth $30 million right now? You stated why he's of value.
QuoteInter Milan and Liverpool have also been named as potential suitors for Sessegnon, but Palace are understood to have been the only ones to contact Fulham.
QuoteSpurs, notoriously rigid negotiators, value him at closer to £25m given the contract situation.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 20, 2019, 08:48:01 PM
According to this (https://www.lovesportradio.com/news/love-sport-exclusives/exclusive-crystal-palace-contact-fulham-over-ryan-sessegnon-but-tottenham-silent/)it's 45 million...
But...of course...in the same article they say...QuoteInter Milan and Liverpool have also been named as potential suitors for Sessegnon, but Palace are understood to have been the only ones to contact Fulham.
Yet....QuoteSpurs, notoriously rigid negotiators, value him at closer to £25m given the contract situation.
They value him at 25 million but haven't actually contacted Fulham... this late in the transfer window?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 20, 2019, 08:56:09 PM
Thirdly, imagine believing LoveSportRadio.
Quote from: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Babel on Twitter:
'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'
Fulham? 😍
Quote from: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Babel on Twitter:
'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'
Fulham? 😍
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 09:59:31 AMQuote from: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Babel on Twitter:
'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'
Fulham? 😍
That would be a nice surprise.
Quote from: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AMBayern now that Ribery and Robben have gone?
Babel on Twitter:
'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'
Fulham? 😍
Quote from: Ols_S on June 21, 2019, 10:19:30 AMQuote from: Hoppus on June 21, 2019, 09:41:18 AMBayern now that Ribery and Robben have gone?
Babel on Twitter:
'Its possible i could make a future decision nobody expected... not even myself...'
Fulham? 😍
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
Anyone having a medical ?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 21, 2019, 03:47:32 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
Anyone having a medical ?
Yes I am having a medical shortly to renew my Heavy Goods Licence.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on June 21, 2019, 11:04:24 AM
Players report back for training tomorrow, although there'll be a few missing as 5 are at the ANC and the ones on international duty will report back late.
8th July for me is the key date, when FFC fly out for the training camp. In previous years Jokanovic has had to take predominately kids as the senior quad was so thin.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on June 21, 2019, 05:34:40 PMQuote from: Two Ton Ted on June 21, 2019, 11:04:24 AM
Players report back for training tomorrow, although there'll be a few missing as 5 are at the ANC and the ones on international duty will report back late.
8th July for me is the key date, when FFC fly out for the training camp. In previous years Jokanovic has had to take predominately kids as the senior quad was so thin.
I agree, but somehow can't see it happening!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 05:31:30 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 21, 2019, 03:47:32 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
Anyone having a medical ?
Yes I am having a medical shortly to renew my Heavy Goods Licence.
Did you pass?
The reason I ask is because that's another week gone and not even a decent rumour.😡
I'm off on the gin now.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
France has two 19 year old CBs that could start for Fulham right now.
Just saying.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 10:44:24 PM
I don't think either makes over 75k a week. Doesn't Anguissa and Mawson make more than that?
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Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 10:44:24 PM
I don't think either makes over 75k a week. Doesn't Anguissa and Mawson make more than that?
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Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 21, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
France has two 19 year old CBs that could start for Fulham right now.
Just saying.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 22, 2019, 06:20:27 AM
Radio GaGa...Fulham could rival Arsenal's bid for Celtic fullback Kieran Tierney.
Gunners bid of 15 mill turned down.
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 22, 2019, 12:21:03 AM
So... is Gayle worth £20 million, or £10 million?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7168913/Fulham-eyeing-10m-rated-Newcastle-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html
Fulham eyeing £10m-rated striker Dwight Gayle with Newcastle keen to offload him this summer
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1143756/Fulham-transfer-news-Dwight-Gayle-Newcastle-United-raid-Scott-Parker-bid
Fulham plot £20m Newcastle raid as Scott Parker eyes Dwight Gayle to lead promotion charge
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 23, 2019, 02:47:42 PM
Might be a controversial opinion, if we keep Mitrovic I wouldn't want to sign Gayle. Especially for 20m. That 20m could genuinely fund every transfer we could make this summer and we'd be in good shape. Cavaleiro 12m, a Right-Back for 3-4m, a Forshaw/Ryan Woods type midfielder for 3-4m. Loan in a Centre-Back and another Winger and we're sorted.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 23, 2019, 02:47:42 PM
Might be a controversial opinion, if we keep Mitrovic I wouldn't want to sign Gayle. Especially for 20m. That 20m could genuinely fund every transfer we could make this summer and we'd be in good shape. Cavaleiro 12m, a Right-Back for 3-4m, a Forshaw/Ryan Woods type midfielder for 3-4m. Loan in a Centre-Back and another Winger and we're sorted.
Quote from: @jolslover on June 23, 2019, 03:43:58 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 23, 2019, 02:47:42 PM
Might be a controversial opinion, if we keep Mitrovic I wouldn't want to sign Gayle. Especially for 20m. That 20m could genuinely fund every transfer we could make this summer and we'd be in good shape. Cavaleiro 12m, a Right-Back for 3-4m, a Forshaw/Ryan Woods type midfielder for 3-4m. Loan in a Centre-Back and another Winger and we're sorted.
Agree
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on June 23, 2019, 04:23:23 PM
According to the Rumour Gossips Gayle didn't want to leave Newcastle.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 23, 2019, 05:19:57 PMWell I think we have lost Schurrle, Babel, Vietto, Markovic and Kamara, we need a player for the wide right/striker position and Gayle sounds like a pretty good choice.
Regarding Gayle, I'm not sure Gayle + Mitrovic means we'll go back up. I though the same when WestBrom has Rodriguez and Gayle but ultimately that failed. Maybe spreading funds in more urgent positions would be more prudent.
Quote from: filham on June 23, 2019, 05:26:41 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 23, 2019, 05:19:57 PMWell I think we have lost Schurrle, Babel, Vietto, Markovic and Kamara, we need a player for the wide right/striker position and Gayle sounds like a pretty good choice.
Regarding Gayle, I'm not sure Gayle + Mitrovic means we'll go back up. I though the same when WestBrom has Rodriguez and Gayle but ultimately that failed. Maybe spreading funds in more urgent positions would be more prudent.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 01:27:57 PM
Anybody?😒
Camerouns Anguissa, som til dagligt spiller i Fulham, bliver kampens spiller. God i pasningsspilet, fysisk stærk og en general på midtbanen. Fortjent #AFCON2019 pic.twitter.com/NSro8pGkzq
— Buster Emil Kirchner (@BusterEmil) June 25, 2019
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on June 25, 2019, 05:47:09 PM
Thorsteinsson Bids Farewell
Tuesday 25 June 2019 16:01
The Club can confirm that an agreement has been reached allowing Jon Dagur Thorsteinsson to join Danish side, Aarhus Gymnastikforening (AGF), on a permanent transfer from July 1st.
The Icelandic Under-21 international spent the most part of last season on loan at Vendsyssel who were unable to avoid relegation from the Danish Superliga.
We'd like to wish Jon all the best in the future and thank him for his services at Fulham.
Quote from: Nero on June 25, 2019, 08:39:23 PMWas he the one that used to cut in and curl them in from outside the box.íf so I thought he would go on and do well for us?Quote from: Two Ton Ted on June 25, 2019, 05:47:09 PM
Thorsteinsson Bids Farewell
Tuesday 25 June 2019 16:01
The Club can confirm that an agreement has been reached allowing Jon Dagur Thorsteinsson to join Danish side, Aarhus Gymnastikforening (AGF), on a permanent transfer from July 1st.
The Icelandic Under-21 international spent the most part of last season on loan at Vendsyssel who were unable to avoid relegation from the Danish Superliga.
We'd like to wish Jon all the best in the future and thank him for his services at Fulham.
What are we going to do for Goal of the Season next year!!!
Quote from: @jolslover on June 25, 2019, 08:02:52 PM
Anguissa named MOTM in Cameroon game today.. Not sure where to put this or if it means anything.. Just reporting.Camerouns Anguissa, som til dagligt spiller i Fulham, bliver kampens spiller. God i pasningsspilet, fysisk stærk og en general på midtbanen. Fortjent #AFCON2019 pic.twitter.com/NSro8pGkzq
— Buster Emil Kirchner (@BusterEmil) June 25, 2019
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 25, 2019, 10:52:01 PM
I always find it funny that the club pits departing player news down the news story section. It's never the top one and older news often goes above it! Look at thorenston his story is third and the other items are from the day before.
Quote from: filham on June 23, 2019, 05:26:41 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 23, 2019, 05:19:57 PMWell I think we have lost Schurrle, Babel, Vietto, Markovic and Kamara, we need a player for the wide right/striker position and Gayle sounds like a pretty good choice.
Regarding Gayle, I'm not sure Gayle + Mitrovic means we'll go back up. I though the same when WestBrom has Rodriguez and Gayle but ultimately that failed. Maybe spreading funds in more urgent positions would be more prudent.
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 25, 2019, 01:31:41 PMTelephone, text, email, tweets, Messenger, Skype, homing pigeon....etcQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 01:27:57 PM
Anybody?😒
I've heard from a dependable source that absolutely nothing can or will happen until TK is back from his wrestling adventures (whenever that is). That's why we haven't signed anyone. Not even a 16 year old left back. Or a goal keeping coach.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 10:23:48 PM
Stoke have just completed five signings today,one is Nick Powell from Wigan,bit injury prone,but good player imo.
Quote from: rogerpnowinFlorida on June 26, 2019, 01:30:35 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on June 25, 2019, 01:31:41 PMTelephone, text, email, tweets, Messenger, Skype, homing pigeon....etcQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 01:27:57 PM
Anybody?😒
I've heard from a dependable source that absolutely nothing can or will happen until TK is back from his wrestling adventures (whenever that is). That's why we haven't signed anyone. Not even a 16 year old left back. Or a goal keeping coach.
I can't believe that
Quote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2019, 07:55:31 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 10:23:48 PM
Stoke have just completed five signings today,one is Nick Powell from Wigan,bit injury prone,but good player imo.
I wouldn't have any of them at Fulham .. Maybe Powell at a push but even he would only be a squad player for us with Cairney here.
Quote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Liam LindsayI'd take Liam Lindsay
Quote from: Statto on June 26, 2019, 02:01:32 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Liam LindsayI'd take Liam Lindsay
Who?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 26, 2019, 02:33:14 PMQuote from: Statto on June 26, 2019, 02:01:32 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Liam LindsayI'd take Liam Lindsay
Who?
Barnsley centre back who has just joined Stoke.
Quote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AMQuote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2019, 07:55:31 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 25, 2019, 10:23:48 PM
Stoke have just completed five signings today,one is Nick Powell from Wigan,bit injury prone,but good player imo.
I wouldn't have any of them at Fulham .. Maybe Powell at a push but even he would only be a squad player for us with Cairney here.
I'd take Liam Lindsay over any of our centre halves at the moment.
Nick Powell and Adam Davies are great squad players considering there is no transfer fee involved. They are also on the verge of signing Stephan Ward on a free. Great experienced full back or would be more then adequate competition for what we have. They're not making stellar signings but it's all tidy business, they sort I would have hoped we'd be looking at.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 03:35:44 PM
The Sessegnon and Clarke transfers aren't an either/or. Pochettino most likely sees Sessegnon more as a LWB than an out-and-out winger and even if he was seen as "just" a winger Clarke coming in would mean Spurs' wingers are Son, Lucas Moura, Nkoudou and Clarke. With Nkoudou likely to be gone. In other words, there'd still be space for Sessegnon.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 03:43:23 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 03:35:44 PM
The Sessegnon and Clarke transfers aren't an either/or. Pochettino most likely sees Sessegnon more as a LWB than an out-and-out winger and even if he was seen as "just" a winger Clarke coming in would mean Spurs' wingers are Son, Lucas Moura, Nkoudou and Clarke. With Nkoudou likely to be gone. In other words, there'd still be space for Sessegnon.
But as seen from the final vs Liverpool, they don't always play with two wingers. Vs Liverpool in the champions league final, they had Son and Eriksson with Winks and Sissoko in the centre - Moura was on the bench. We are also forgetting Lamela exists and Alli can also play there. So Sessegnon would ever be down the pecking order as a LW and Spurs dont play a LWB but Spurs traditionally play 4 at the back with an attacking midfielder... so again unless they change their formation to incorporate a 19 year old I again dont see it. Sess wont get in ahead of Rose or Davies in the LB spot.
I think it's clear to me that unless theres a couple more exits than just Nkoudou that Sess wont be going, and if he is he's straight out on loan...
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Instagram of someone wearing a Fulham shirt and Babel is tagged...
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Instagram of someone wearing a Fulham shirt and Babel is tagged...
Quote from: Milo on June 26, 2019, 04:24:34 PMQuote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Instagram of someone wearing a Fulham shirt and Babel is tagged...
Where?
Also, Mitrovic has posted a picture of him in new shirt on his Insta. Surely staying!
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 03:07:17 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 26, 2019, 02:33:14 PMQuote from: Statto on June 26, 2019, 02:01:32 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Liam LindsayI'd take Liam Lindsay
Who?
Barnsley centre back who has just joined Stoke.
The one who got relegated to League one the year before last? Why is good enough for a promotion chasing team exactly?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:14:25 PMwell maybe Scott is looking at Odoi as the RCB next season.
I really don't understand the link with him/why we'd want him. We already have Le Marchand and Ream for Left-Footed Centre-Backs and Mawson is arguably more comfortable as the LCB as well.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
I really don't understand the link with him/why we'd want him. We already have Le Marchand and Ream for Left-Footed Centre-Backs and Mawson is arguably more comfortable as the LCB as well.
Quote from: The Rock on June 26, 2019, 07:35:02 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
I really don't understand the link with him/why we'd want him. We already have Le Marchand and Ream for Left-Footed Centre-Backs and Mawson is arguably more comfortable as the LCB as well.
Maybe it is because we let in 81 goals last season. Just a guess.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:35:30 PMQuote from: The Rock on June 26, 2019, 07:35:02 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 26, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
I really don't understand the link with him/why we'd want him. We already have Le Marchand and Ream for Left-Footed Centre-Backs and Mawson is arguably more comfortable as the LCB as well.
Maybe it is because we let in 81 goals last season. Just a guess.
See post just above yours (and Mawson was only on the pitch for probably about 20 of them).
Quote from: sarnian on June 26, 2019, 07:20:35 PM
Sky and others highlighted Odoi and Ream's weaknesses the season before last. Why do you therefore think they will suffice this season when they have not improved.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 26, 2019, 03:07:17 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 26, 2019, 02:33:14 PMQuote from: Statto on June 26, 2019, 02:01:32 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on June 26, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
Liam LindsayI'd take Liam Lindsay
Who?
Barnsley centre back who has just joined Stoke.
The one who got relegated to League one the year before last? Why is good enough for a promotion chasing team exactly?
Quote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2019, 07:48:53 PM
I honestly think (mayb in the minority with this) Le March and Mawson is a good enough CB pairing for promotion - add to that Ream and Odoi as back up and this is fine. These two are especially suited to a return to a possession style aswell as both are more than comfortable on the ball
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 26, 2019, 07:53:46 PMQuote from: sarnian on June 26, 2019, 07:20:35 PM
Sky and others highlighted Odoi and Ream's weaknesses the season before last. Why do you therefore think they will suffice this season when they have not improved.
Because they're not marking the likes of Sergio Aguero and Harry Kane, and instead are going to have to deal with Chris Martin and Matt Smith type players, who are neither quick or prolific with world class movement like PL strikers. The margin for error is much, much higher and we've currently got at least one CB who's PL class in Mawson, so it means we only need one of Ream or Odoi to play alongside him should we not sign another centre half
Quote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2019, 07:48:53 PM
I honestly think (mayb in the minority with this) Le March and Mawson is a good enough CB pairing for promotion - add to that Ream and Odoi as back up and this is fine. These two are especially suited to a return to a possession style aswell as both are more than comfortable on the ball
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PMIs it written somewhere that players in the Championship cant play for their national team? It's not like he isn't older and they don't know what he can do.Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.
Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 01:56:53 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PMIs it written somewhere that players in the Championship cant play for their national team? It's not like he isn't older and they don't know what he can do.Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.
Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
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Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 02:32:19 AM
Yes...but they already know what they get with Babel regardless of where he plays. Is the Turkish league better than the Championship?
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 01:56:53 AMThe dutch FA have asked their players to play top flight football iso they can play in top eurorpean competitions.Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PMIs it written somewhere that players in the Championship cant play for their national team? It's not like he isn't older and they don't know what he can do.Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.
Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
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Quote from: junior white on June 27, 2019, 08:58:21 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 01:56:53 AMThe dutch FA have asked their players to play top flight football iso they can play in top eurorpean competitions.Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PMIs it written somewhere that players in the Championship cant play for their national team? It's not like he isn't older and they don't know what he can do.Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.
Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
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As long as top division it doesn't matter other wise De Ligt would not play for them
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 27, 2019, 09:51:04 AMDutch guy I work with said to me after our relegation was confirmed, that it meant Babel would leave as Koeman had said "any player playing for the dutch national team (under his control) had to be playing in the top division of any country in which they play". SO guess it means Eredivisie is ok as would be the Scottish prem, both of which (For me) are not better than the championship, i guess maybe because they could play Europa or Champions league.Quote from: junior white on June 27, 2019, 08:58:21 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on June 27, 2019, 01:56:53 AMThe dutch FA have asked their players to play top flight football iso they can play in top eurorpean competitions.Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on June 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PMIs it written somewhere that players in the Championship cant play for their national team? It's not like he isn't older and they don't know what he can do.Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Keeping Babel, Mitrovic and Cairney in this window on top of Anguissa and Mawson would be incredible.
Babel won't stay, not a chance. He wants to keep his Nerherlands starting spot.
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As long as top division it doesn't matter other wise De Ligt would not play for them
Is that true, or speculation? Since it seem strange to put the focus on being the top league in a country (any country?) instead of quality (the Championship is arguably probably in the top 6-8 leagues in Europe, albeit with a lack of European competition). One would think the Dutch FA would not be idiots, but who knows. With that said, obviously the higher level you play, the better.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.
Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak).
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.
Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak).
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 04:08:50 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.
Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak).Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.
Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak).
Good keeper Bialkowski,but knee problem.
Was off to Millwall but failed medical 3 days ago.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 04:10:44 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 04:08:50 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.
Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak).Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 27, 2019, 03:33:19 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
Sevco and Ipswich want Rodak.
Wouldn't mind loaning Rodak out again and signing someone older who could sit on the bench and not have their development stalled but still challenge Bettinelli for the #1 shirt. Someone like a Bialkowski (which could work out perfectly if they want Rodak).
Good keeper Bialkowski,but knee problem.
Was off to Millwall but failed medical 3 days ago.
I speak to a Millwall fan, he didn't fail the medical as such. The medical flagged up a knee injury he had 13 years ago that presumably they didn't know about, and Millwall tried to knock the price down for him because of said 13 year old injury and Ipswich told them to do one.
Quote from: JimOG on June 27, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
The other aspect of this thread I find frustrating is this constant harping back to Odoi, MLM, Ream being as good as is in the Championship. We're trying to build a side good enough to get back to the Premiership....AND stay there. That means finding a core group of 7/8 who will make this transition. None of those I've mention nor TC, KMc, Stefan etc are of that standard.
Have we learned nothing?
Quote from: JimOG on June 27, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
Looked at Rodak compilation of his season at Rotherham and he was brilliant. He may be our starting keeper! Would also like to see us acquire Michael Hector (or Mings) to give us a frightening aerial presence at the other end. Hector, my Sheff Wed friend tells me, would be an outstanding acquisition. The other aspect of this thread I find frustrating is this constant harping back to Odoi, MLM, Ream being as good as is in the Championship. We're trying to build a side good enough to get back to the Premiership....AND stay there. That means finding a core group of 7/8 who will make this transition. None of those I've mention nor TC, KMc, Stefan etc are of that standard.
Have we learned nothing?
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on June 27, 2019, 04:51:35 PMQuote from: JimOG on June 27, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
The other aspect of this thread I find frustrating is this constant harping back to Odoi, MLM, Ream being as good as is in the Championship. We're trying to build a side good enough to get back to the Premiership....AND stay there. That means finding a core group of 7/8 who will make this transition. None of those I've mention nor TC, KMc, Stefan etc are of that standard.
Have we learned nothing?
NAIL. ON. HEAD.
if we go up, we need to much better than we were two years ago, or the failure of last season will just happen again.
Quote from: Statto on June 27, 2019, 09:45:28 PMQuote from: Two Ton Ted on June 27, 2019, 04:51:35 PMQuote from: JimOG on June 27, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
The other aspect of this thread I find frustrating is this constant harping back to Odoi, MLM, Ream being as good as is in the Championship. We're trying to build a side good enough to get back to the Premiership....AND stay there. That means finding a core group of 7/8 who will make this transition. None of those I've mention nor TC, KMc, Stefan etc are of that standard.
Have we learned nothing?
NAIL. ON. HEAD.
if we go up, we need to much better than we were two years ago, or the failure of last season will just happen again.
Firstly, if we were going into another PL season with this squad, right now, I'd expect us to survive. We were crap because we threw a bunch of strangers together in August. Give them a pre-season and a sensible manager, and I firmly believe most of our current squad are as good as Burnley, Brighton and Southampton's players.
Secondly, it doesn't make any sense at all to expect us to build a PL team in the Championship. NEWSFLASH: To the extent changes are made to our squad this summer, generally they're not going to be improvements.
Quote from: Tonywa on June 29, 2019, 11:36:51 AM
I was thinking he was overpriced, but given what we paid for some of our players last season he's probably a bargain.
Quote from: FulhamStu on June 29, 2019, 11:51:44 AMQuote from: Tonywa on June 29, 2019, 11:36:51 AM
I was thinking he was overpriced, but given what we paid for some of our players last season he's probably a bargain.
How much did we pay for Bryan ? That is currently a lot of money for a good solid but limited player. Then again, your right in that prices paid these days are totally over the top. Wonder how much Fredericks is worth ? Think we miss him a lot more than Targett.
Quote from: filham on June 28, 2019, 06:37:26 PM
Come on , face facts, Babel has gone, Mitrovic, Sess., Seri and Anguissa are likely to be away at the first real opportunity. There is going to be some serious rebuilding needed in a short space of time.
Quote from: Tabby on June 30, 2019, 10:02:01 AM
Most recent rumours are about us loaning the younger Chalobah and buying Charlie Austin. Austin has been in bad form for a couple of seasons now, so not sure about that.
Anyone seen Trevoh Chalobah play? Only seen him during some England youth games and he didn't look like anything special then.
Quote from: The Old Count on June 29, 2019, 01:09:56 PMBabel has gone that is a fact and as I said it is likely that Seri, Sess., Mitro and Anquissa will follow. Wish they would stay as that would save us a lot of money and further risk in the transfer market but if we plan on it and have no plans to replace them we could be in trouble.Quote from: filham on June 28, 2019, 06:37:26 PM
Come on , face facts, Babel has gone, Mitrovic, Sess., Seri and Anguissa are likely to be away at the first real opportunity. There is going to be some serious rebuilding needed in a short space of time.
Not facts 'till after the event. Believe the worst if you like. I reckon there's a good chance all will stay. Seri might want away (especially if he reads this board) but we don't have to let him go if we don't want to. Same for the rest.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on June 29, 2019, 03:49:01 PM
Costa going to Leeds on loan, we should be all over players like that, including Cavaleiro, especially with Babel gone and Sess going, they're leagues above Kebano and Ayite.
Quote from: filham on June 30, 2019, 12:36:09 PMWhy is it likely that Anguissa and Mitro will follow. And please don't say "it just is".Quote from: The Old Count on June 29, 2019, 01:09:56 PMBabel has gone that is a fact and as I said it is likely that Seri, Sess., Mitro and Anquissa will follow. Wish they would stay as that would save us a lot of money and further risk in the transfer market but if we plan on it and have no plans to replace them we could be in trouble.Quote from: filham on June 28, 2019, 06:37:26 PM
Come on , face facts, Babel has gone, Mitrovic, Sess., Seri and Anguissa are likely to be away at the first real opportunity. There is going to be some serious rebuilding needed in a short space of time.
Not facts 'till after the event. Believe the worst if you like. I reckon there's a good chance all will stay. Seri might want away (especially if he reads this board) but we don't have to let him go if we don't want to. Same for the rest.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 30, 2019, 02:28:29 PM
Tony Khan mentions in this interview about the AEW show last night that he spoke to Jorge Mendes on the phone last night (or two nights ago from today) and during the show last night as well at about 17 minutes and 30 seconds into the interview. Obvious one is Cavaleiro there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoLHJ2cK0dU
Quote from: spikey norman on July 01, 2019, 07:25:56 AM
Today's Mirror reporting Real Betis close to signing Mitro for £25 million
Quote from: grandad on July 01, 2019, 08:54:33 AMQuote from: spikey norman on July 01, 2019, 07:25:56 AM
Today's Mirror reporting Real Betis close to signing Mitro for £25 million
Double that & then tell them to do one. We don´t have to sell him to anyone.
Quote from: Milo on July 01, 2019, 08:55:07 AMThe Mitro situation needs sorting one way or the other without delay to enable Scotty to start assembling a team.Quote from: grandad on July 01, 2019, 08:54:33 AMQuote from: spikey norman on July 01, 2019, 07:25:56 AM
Today's Mirror reporting Real Betis close to signing Mitro for £25 million
Double that & then tell them to do one. We don´t have to sell him to anyone.
Exactly! Not going anywhere!!
?s=21Hearing Fulham are very keen on trying to sign Pontus Jansson from Leeds
— Matt Law (@Matt_Law_DT) July 1, 2019
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 01, 2019, 01:41:57 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!
Because we are a more attractive club than Leeds.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 01, 2019, 03:20:53 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
As Leeds fans are pointing out, why would he leave? Be a very welcome addition though!
Because our owner is rich and can pay him more. (not sure its true...just thinking of a reason)
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 03:46:55 PM
Don't know the source that well, but an apparent Chelsea itk thinks we're after Martell Taylor-Crossdale, and are competing with Hoffenfeim for him (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190701/7803c0739ed63433be653cd23844f2d2.jpg)
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 03:50:06 PM
Wouldn't be a loan, apparently his contract is up so would be a free transfer/minor fee
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 01, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
#FFC are set to sign #NUFC striker Dwight Gayle, a fee of £12m was agreed late last night and Gayle has travelled to West London to complete a medical #WBA
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 01, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
#FFC are set to sign #NUFC striker Dwight Gayle, a fee of £12m was agreed late last night and Gayle has travelled to West London to complete a medical #WBA
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 01, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
#FFC are set to sign #NUFC striker Dwight Gayle, a fee of £12m was agreed late last night and Gayle has travelled to West London to complete a medical #WBA
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 01, 2019, 03:49:31 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 03:46:55 PM
Don't know the source that well, but an apparent Chelsea itk thinks we're after Martell Taylor-Crossdale, and are competing with Hoffenfeim for him (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190701/7803c0739ed63433be653cd23844f2d2.jpg)
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Would be happy with this sort of loan.
Quote from: Fernhurst on July 01, 2019, 04:27:49 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 01, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
#FFC are set to sign #NUFC striker Dwight Gayle, a fee of £12m was agreed late last night and Gayle has travelled to West London to complete a medical #WBA
Source??? Nothing on Sky yet
Quote from: Tabby on July 01, 2019, 08:24:26 PM
Been looking at some Leeds forums about the Jansson rumour, and many there seem to think it has legs. Bielsa doesn't seem to rate him. Hope it happens, he'd be a solid leader in the defense, we need a couple of passion merchants in a good team.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully
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Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully
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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully
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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.
Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 01, 2019, 11:31:15 PMQuote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully
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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.
Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
As soon as he was tested at any sort of level at CB, he was a train wreck.
We should be looking st finding a solid partner for Mawson.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 02, 2019, 12:44:18 AM
I'd have to go through a few more seasons, but I'm 99% certain 8m for Kalas is the most a Championship team has ever spent on a Defender while they're in the Championship. Obviously we spent 15m on Mawson etc. but that was when we were in the Prem.
It's a ridiculous amount of money for him, and as already said- he was dropped for Odoi in our promotion season. That's not to say Kalas is a bad player, but for 8m we could probably get a RB and pay a loan fee for a Hector/Tomori type Centre-Back AND have money left over to put towards a forward.
I see it as similar to what Tony Khan mentioned about signing Andreas Pereira on loan in that sense. I'd rather go the Johansen/Piazon option than the Kalas option in this scenario.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 01, 2019, 11:34:49 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 01, 2019, 11:31:15 PMQuote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully
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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.
Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
As soon as he was tested at any sort of level at CB, he was a train wreck.
We should be looking st finding a solid partner for Mawson.
Agreed. He cost us the playoff v Reading too
Quote from: RaySmith on July 02, 2019, 07:00:16 AMif every player gave his efforts last season we would still be PL.
But Odoi's goal got us into the Final - not to mention his sterling performances in every game during our great run- a player who, whatever his faults, always gives his all for Fulham.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully
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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.
Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 02, 2019, 12:44:18 AM
I'd have to go through a few more seasons, but I'm 99% certain 8m for Kalas is the most a Championship team has ever spent on a Defender while they're in the Championship. Obviously we spent 15m on Mawson etc. but that was when we were in the Prem.
It's a ridiculous amount of money for him, and as already said- he was dropped for Odoi in our promotion season. That's not to say Kalas is a bad player, but for 8m we could probably get a RB and pay a loan fee for a Hector/Tomori type Centre-Back AND have money left over to put towards a forward.
I see it as similar to what Tony Khan mentioned about signing Andreas Pereira on loan in that sense. I'd rather go the Johansen/Piazon option than the Kalas option in this scenario.
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 01, 2019, 11:31:15 PMQuote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully
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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.
Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
As soon as he was tested at any sort of level at CB, he was a train wreck.
We should be looking st finding a solid partner for Mawson.
Quote from: Riversider on July 01, 2019, 04:38:43 PM
Latest score
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COYW
Quote from: grandad on July 02, 2019, 08:49:37 AM
Same old. Other clubs seem to sign players within days of negotiations starting but we take weeks & weeks & then lose out to another club while we are faffing about.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PMWould like to remind you that both are left sided only. We saw how bad Mawson is at RCB and it goes without saying that we need a new right sider.Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully
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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.
Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on July 02, 2019, 11:14:16 AMQuote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PMWould like to remind you that both are left sided only. We saw how bad Mawson is at RCB and it goes without saying that we need a new right sider.Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully
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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.
Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 02, 2019, 12:03:18 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Capable but Championship winning back line? I dont think so. Mawson yes, Bryan yes but we need another CB and a RB
Quote from: bobby01 on July 02, 2019, 09:18:28 AMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 01, 2019, 11:31:15 PMQuote from: @jolslover on July 01, 2019, 11:04:24 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 10:25:59 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 01, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
Must admit, think we can do better than Kalas for £8m. That would go a long towards Jansson, who I think is a better defender truthfully
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Let's see.
If we still have Denis Odoi at RCB in 5 weeks' time, I'll be very disappointed we couldn't find a way to get Kalas in.
Same Odoi who displaced Kalas the season we went up?
Odoi is our 4th best CB atm anyway. Mawson and Le Marchand starters
As soon as he was tested at any sort of level at CB, he was a train wreck.
We should be looking st finding a solid partner for Mawson.
I have never understood the hate for odoi on here. Also on what basis should we be finding a solid partner for Mawson. I did not see him setting the world alight last season, mostly the opposite. Not saying he won't come good but yet more selective arguing.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.
Quote from: ..FOF.. on July 02, 2019, 01:35:59 PMThough saying that, I seem to remember Mark Scwarzer communicated with his backline in German and that worked out alrightQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.
...and I think a great defence starts with a vocal goalkeeper.... in English preferably.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 02, 2019, 01:41:59 PMQuote from: ..FOF.. on July 02, 2019, 01:35:59 PMThough saying that, I seem to remember Mark Scwarzer communicated with his backline in German and that worked out alrightQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.
...and I think a great defence starts with a vocal goalkeeper.... in English preferably.
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Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on July 02, 2019, 01:49:32 PM
Heart says, signings soon?
Head says, don't expect much but the errors of the past will be learned from.
Computer says......... No!
Quote from: ..FOF.. on July 02, 2019, 01:35:59 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.
...and I think a great defence starts with a vocal goalkeeper.... in English preferably.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 01:48:05 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on July 02, 2019, 01:41:59 PMQuote from: ..FOF.. on July 02, 2019, 01:35:59 PMThough saying that, I seem to remember Mark Scwarzer communicated with his backline in German and that worked out alrightQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If we do not get our defence right before the season commences, with balance, pace, depth and height then we can kiss a top six place goodbye.
...and I think a great defence starts with a vocal goalkeeper.... in English preferably.
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It sounded like German,but it was broad Zummerset,as he loved singing "I'm a cider drinker" during the game.😉
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?
I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.
Quote from: elgreenio on July 02, 2019, 03:49:11 PM
We've got much bigger priorities than between the sticks.
Marko Arnautovic handed in a transfer request? that guy is an absolute mercenary.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 02, 2019, 06:32:30 PM
Will we ever sign someone early like other clubs. In the podcast TK said about getting good deals late in the window. I think he's too obsessed with getting the best possible deal than paying slightly more and not risking losing the player.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?
I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.
I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 07:43:34 PM
Medical tomorrow apparently.
Cough twice and look at the ceiling...😰
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 07:54:03 PM
And that's just to become Groundsman.🙋
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?
I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.
I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.
CB is priority #1 IMO.
We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PMQuote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?
I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.
I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.
CB is priority #1 IMO.
We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.
Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PMQuote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?
I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.
I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.
CB is priority #1 IMO.
We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.
Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.
Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PMQuote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?
I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.
I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.
CB is priority #1 IMO.
We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.
Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.
Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:40:44 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PMQuote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly
CB is priority #1 IMO.
We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.
Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.
Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.
But we don't have even a single right footed CB in out squad!?!
Odoi is a 178cm RB who was forced to play CB because we didn't have anyone else available. The rest of our CBs are left footed and have been awful at RCB.
Odoi was brilliant for us at RB in the Championship but rarely given the chance in his best position. I have no problems whatsoever with Odoi at RB next season but I don't want to see him as a regular starter at CB.
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 11:14:20 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PMQuote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?
I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.
I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.
CB is priority #1 IMO.
We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.
Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.
Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.
Christie@RB > Odoi@CB
Quote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 11:14:20 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:17 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 02, 2019, 11:09:28 PMQuote from: Statto on July 02, 2019, 07:07:15 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 03:54:39 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 02, 2019, 03:52:18 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
I think Odoi, MLM, Mawson and Ream are all more than capable in the championship. I'm more concerned about right back currently than centre halves.
Agree with what I bolded, but if Fulham comes back up do you really want those 4 CBs to be the ones you're relying on to stop EPL attacks?
I think right back is the most important signing if we hold on to all our remaining players, but I also think CB (unless the german guy from our u23s raises his game) has to be addressed this season in preparation for the next.
I'm looking at this season. if money isn't an issue (it is) and signing players that are perfectly adaptable to top 2 championship to EPL, then sure, but lets face it, that's not easy and we have bigger weaknesses for next season.
CB is priority #1 IMO.
We can get away with having a mediocre RB but not CB. Plus if we sign a RCB, we sort of solve the RB problem by having Odoi come available for that position.
Agreed, we desperately need a RCB.
Not convinced by this assessment. We have decent CB's and no decent RB's so thats the clear weakness. Width and pace is our main concern.
Christie@RB > Odoi@CB
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2019, 07:43:34 PM
Medical tomorrow apparently.
Cough twice and look at the ceiling...😰
Where's this medical that is supposed to be happening
Quote from: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 11:14:45 AM
With Brighton signing Trossard last week maybe Knockhaert could become available
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 09:19:25 AM
I do not agree with this. I've already said, I wouldn't mind a CB, but I already think Odoi, Ream, Mawson and MLM are good enough for championship at CB. Christie, not convinced. I think we need at least 4 players including pacey wide men going forward, a RB and a CB and ideally a striker so I'm not against strengthening positions, I just see our width as our absolute biggest issue.
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 09:19:25 AM
I do not agree with this. I've already said, I wouldn't mind a CB, but I already think Odoi, Ream, Mawson and MLM are good enough for championship at CB. Christie, not convinced. I think we need at least 4 players including pacey wide men going forward, a RB and a CB and ideally a striker so I'm not against strengthening positions, I just see our width as our absolute biggest issue.
Hey listen, fair enough you can have an opinion about certain players based on whatever criteria you fancy. And if you weren't very happy with Christie last season then that's cool and you are by no means in the minority on that one.
But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.
He's at least competent for what we need next season. Even if he isn't, we currently have S.Sessegnon, Fossey and Dramah able to slot in. We don't need another right back.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 12:24:55 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 09:19:25 AM
I do not agree with this. I've already said, I wouldn't mind a CB, but I already think Odoi, Ream, Mawson and MLM are good enough for championship at CB. Christie, not convinced. I think we need at least 4 players including pacey wide men going forward, a RB and a CB and ideally a striker so I'm not against strengthening positions, I just see our width as our absolute biggest issue.
Hey listen, fair enough you can have an opinion about certain players based on whatever criteria you fancy. And if you weren't very happy with Christie last season then that's cool and you are by no means in the minority on that one.
But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.
He's at least competent for what we need next season. Even if he isn't, we currently have S.Sessegnon, Fossey and Dramah able to slot in. We don't need another right back.
The problem I have with Christie is, he wasn't highly rated at Boro. There's a reason he was made available for transfer in January and at cost. He came to us, didn't play much, behind Fred, then when he did play, we threw him in deep end in the EPL and he was massively found wanting. Every time I see him play, I'm underwhelmed and I just think we need a better starting player at RB. I'd love for one of the youngsters to come through, but its hard to suggest that's going to happen when they haven't had the chance in front of Chirstie who was appalling last season. He's fine for a squad role, but we really need to upgrade on width as that seems vitally important to successful championship sides. (including our success). That's my two pence.
Quote from: Matt10 on July 03, 2019, 01:14:26 PM
Interestingly enough, Christie shut down a number of premier league flankers during our time. Although he was criticized, incorrectly, about his lack of tracking back vs Arsenal at home, when he set the record straight that Slavisa wanted him to stay up the pitch.
Defensively, I think he's adequate. Sure, if we can upgrade, by all means. However, going forward, he's poor in crossing with his right foot, but ironically set up two goals with his left (lay-off to Babel v Cardiff, chip to Sess > Mitro vs Southampton).
If we review a couple goals from our promotion season as well, he supplied Mitro with some lovely crosses, including Mitro's first goal for the club vs Sheffield Utd away.
My thing with Christie is how it looks like he's always going to trip with the ball at his feet. I feel his legs are so heavy that they are only meant to use in momentum of a dead sprint, and the ball itself just gets in the way. It's hard to watch sometimes. With that said, I enjoy the effort he puts in and dedication to getting the job done. Hopefully he challenges whoever comes in to take his spot.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 12:24:55 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.
The problem I have with Christie is, he wasn't highly rated at Boro.
Quote from: Statto on July 03, 2019, 02:18:19 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 12:24:55 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.
The problem I have with Christie is, he wasn't highly rated at Boro.
He was only there for half a season and was their first choice RB. Not sure how more highly-rated he could be in the absence of a "Player of the Half-season" award.
FWIW I spent most of last season thinking he looked crap but I think he'll look much better in the Championship
Also I neglected to mention, Odoi can play RB, so rather than saying Christie@RB > Odoi@CB, perhaps the formula that shows our biggest weakness should be Odoi@RB > Odoi@CB
Quote from: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 02:29:56 PM
Sky Sports have confirmed that Leeds have signed Helder Costa and are about to make a third bid for Cody Drameh.
We are looking at Crawley's David Sesay as a replacement for Cody
Quote from: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 02:29:56 PM
Sky Sports have confirmed that Leeds have signed Helder Costa and are about to make a third bid for Cody Drameh.
We are looking at Crawley's David Sesay as a replacement for Cody
Quote from: Fernhurst on July 03, 2019, 02:41:34 PM
Agreed, where is our quality signings??
Last quality - MacDonald and Cairney - who got those two in ?????? Kit ?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 02:26:45 PMQuote from: Statto on July 03, 2019, 02:18:19 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2019, 12:24:55 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 03, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
But just bear in mind he's already played over 120 games at championship level. In his 3 seasons with derby they finished top 10 in all 3 and in the playoffs for one of those. I don't remember where Boro were when he left them, but he played almost every game for them and they eventually finished in the playoffs too.
The problem I have with Christie is, he wasn't highly rated at Boro.
He was only there for half a season and was their first choice RB. Not sure how more highly-rated he could be in the absence of a "Player of the Half-season" award.
FWIW I spent most of last season thinking he looked crap but I think he'll look much better in the Championship
Also I neglected to mention, Odoi can play RB, so rather than saying Christie@RB > Odoi@CB, perhaps the formula that shows our biggest weakness should be Odoi@RB > Odoi@CB
Selling your no.1 right back at cost in January, to me, suggests he wasn't really rated that highly. I do agree though that i'd prefer to see more of Odoi at RB but even so, I'm sticking to my guns here and sayign our biggest weakness, still, is our wide men.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.
Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.
Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.
So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 03, 2019, 02:53:05 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.
Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.
So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?
Djalo is actually our ONLY right footed CB... and he's not even part of the first team squad.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 03, 2019, 02:53:05 PM
Djalo is actually our ONLY right footed CB... and he's not even part of the first team squad.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.
Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.
So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 03:27:54 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.
Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.
So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?
Well, I guess we could buy a right back, make Christie our fifth choice centre back and still say bye to Djalo.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 03, 2019, 03:44:53 PM
Zambo hasn't been playing as a proper #6 DM for Cameroon. He's been playing as the sort of Johansen #8 type midfielder, and Mandjeck has been playing as the "proper" DM (I think it was Kunde yesterday, but still). But he has been absolutely exceptional, could've been on for 3 MOTMs out of 3 yesterday but they gave it to Oyongo.
If he stays and we want to get the best out of him we need a Kante-type midfielder next to him who'll sit deep and tackle endlessly for 90 minutes.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 03:27:54 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 02:50:42 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Our eight highest value defenders are Christie, S.Sess, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan.
Which player leaps out as the worst player there?
If the worst player is Christie or S.Sess, we should get a right back first.
If the worst player is Djalo, we should get a centre back first.
So, if our fifth choice centre back is worse than our first choice right back then we should get a new centre back first?
Well, I guess we could buy a right back, make Christie our fifth choice centre back and still say bye to Djalo.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
Couple things we know.
- Fulham are planning to run a 4-3-3 (even though I prefer the 4-2-3-1 with Cairney)
Stefjo is coming back
Cairney, Stefjo and Andre are probably the projected midfield starters
Anguissa is more a poor man's Pogba than he is a poor man's Kante. He 'wants' to be a better version of Seri.
Depending on who the RB is.... Cairney, Stefjo and Guissa are good enough offensively and defensively to win games in the championship...retain possession and open up opposing defenses... as long as the back line and the keeper doesn't suck.
I don't think Fulham is currently thinking about getting a true #6.
Quote from: Matt10 on July 03, 2019, 02:58:06 PM
In other news, Anguissa has been playing lights out for Cameroon, as a single DMF most of the time. I will not be surprised if we see clubs trying to snatch him from us.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 03, 2019, 04:11:20 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
Couple things we know.
- Fulham are planning to run a 4-3-3 (even though I prefer the 4-2-3-1 with Cairney)
Stefjo is coming back
Cairney, Stefjo and Andre are probably the projected midfield starters
Anguissa is more a poor man's Pogba than he is a poor man's Kante. He 'wants' to be a better version of Seri.
Depending on who the RB is.... Cairney, Stefjo and Guissa are good enough offensively and defensively to win games in the championship...retain possession and open up opposing defenses... as long as the back line and the keeper doesn't suck.
I don't think Fulham is currently thinking about getting a true #6.
I agree that our midfielders are good enough as it stands. However, do we really know that we are planning to play 4-3-3? How can we possibly know that at this point?
Quote from: bobby01 on July 03, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Well so far Leeds have 3x PL loaners, Helder Costa and another I can't remember, signed sealed already.
Quote from: spikey norman on July 03, 2019, 04:24:45 PM
Sky Sports reporting we are interested in signing Ezri Konsa from Brentford
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 04:43:27 PMQuote from: bobby01 on July 03, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Well so far Leeds have 3x PL loaners, Helder Costa and another I can't remember, signed sealed already.
Yeah...but we still have Mitro, Sess, TC and Anguissa under contract and when the season ended a lot here thought at least 3 of them would be gone by now.
We've got 4 weeks left and no real news of any of them definitely leaving, so imo I'll take that. If we definitely lost three of those players AND didn't bring in anyone I'd be worried. Right now...as a squad...imo Fulham have one up on Leeds. Oh, and we know Stefjo is coming back as well.
Quote from: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM:dead horse:
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2019, 07:12:30 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM:dead horse:
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
What on earth are you going on and on and on about?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 07:21:14 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2019, 07:12:30 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM:dead horse:
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
What on earth are you going on and on and on about?
They've made 7 signings to our 0 I believe.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 03, 2019, 07:37:56 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 07:21:14 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2019, 07:12:30 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM:dead horse:
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
What on earth are you going on and on and on about?
They've made 7 signings to our 0 I believe.
And 7 of the 7 wouldn't get in our team so are irrelevant
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 03, 2019, 05:37:53 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 03, 2019, 04:43:27 PMQuote from: bobby01 on July 03, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Well so far Leeds have 3x PL loaners, Helder Costa and another I can't remember, signed sealed already.
Yeah...but we still have Mitro, Sess, TC and Anguissa under contract and when the season ended a lot here thought at least 3 of them would be gone by now.
We've got 4 weeks left and no real news of any of them definitely leaving, so imo I'll take that. If we definitely lost three of those players AND didn't bring in anyone I'd be worried. Right now...as a squad...imo Fulham have one up on Leeds. Oh, and we know Stefjo is coming back as well.
Squad of 29
Goalkeepers (3): Betts, Fabri, Rodak
Defenders (11): Christie, Odoi, Djalo, Mawson, Ream, MLM, Edun, Bryan, Fossey, Dramah, S.Sess
Midfielders (7): Cisse, McDonald, Anguissa, Johasen, Seri, Cairney, Riley,
Forwards (8): R.Sess, Kamara, Mitrovoic, Fonte, Atyie, Kebano, Torres, Elliott
I think that squad can easily do much better than the first half of 2017/18.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up
Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)
Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa
Quote from: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up
Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)
Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa
Quote from: filham on July 03, 2019, 09:32:15 PMSo you think Tony Khan is going to sell him without knowing for sure that we're locked in with another 20 goal scorer?
Assuming Mitrovic will stay is a huge assumption.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Radio now.....Palace want Seri.
Quote from: SP on July 03, 2019, 10:00:44 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Radio now.....Palace want Seri.
I wonder what for?
Quote from: Matt10 on July 03, 2019, 07:39:24 PMAgree with replies...Quote from: JoelH5 on July 03, 2019, 07:37:56 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 07:21:14 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2019, 07:12:30 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM:dead horse:
Score update
QPR 7
Fulham 0
What on earth are you going on and on and on about?
They've made 7 signings to our 0 I believe.
And 7 of the 7 wouldn't get in our team so are irrelevant
They've also had 5 depart (to a club), so technically 0-2?
https://www.transfermarkt.us/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/saison_id/2019/pos//detailpos/0/w_s//plus/1#zugaenge
Quote from: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up
Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)
Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa
Quote from: grandad on July 04, 2019, 08:20:44 AM
The transfer market is really bonkers. Brighton are asking for £40 mil for Lewis Dunk. Leicester want him. Replacement for Maguire I suppose.
Quote from: grandad on July 04, 2019, 08:20:44 AM
The transfer market is really bonkers. Brighton are asking for £40 mil for Lewis Dunk. Leicester want him. Replacement for Maguire I suppose.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 04, 2019, 09:00:49 AMQuote from: grandad on July 04, 2019, 08:20:44 AM
The transfer market is really bonkers. Brighton are asking for £40 mil for Lewis Dunk. Leicester want him. Replacement for Maguire I suppose.
It was bonkers last season too especially for defensive midfielders, that's why West Ham offerred €29m for Anguissa before we beat it. This year everyone seems to need centre backs especially ManUnited, ManCity and Arsenal, no surprise Lewis Dunk is sort after he is kind of the next tier down.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PMFar too simplistic to be a guide of even the most vague terms. It is how people play together as a team that matters and not their individual (and arbitrary worth) comparison to some arbitrary worth you can manage to clutch from a whole host of such things. Partnerships matter everywhere especially behind the doors marked DoF and CEO. They can be individually brilliant but worthless if they don't drive the team in the right direction.
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up
Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)
Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa
Quote from: toshes mate on July 04, 2019, 09:21:42 AMQuote from: @jolslover on July 03, 2019, 09:04:50 PMFar too simplistic to be a guide of even the most vague terms. It is how people play together as a team that matters and not their individual (and arbitrary worth) comparison to some arbitrary worth you can manage to clutch from a whole host of such things. Partnerships matter everywhere especially behind the doors marked DoF and CEO. They can be individually brilliant but worthless if they don't drive the team in the right direction.
If we compare best 11 now (assuming Sess / Seri leave) to best 11 last time we went up
Betts (Same), Christie (Worse) Mawson (Better) Le March (Better) Bryan (Same), Anguissa (Better) Johansen (Same) Cairney (Same), Kamara (Same) Mitrovic (Same) Ayite (Worse)
Suggests it isn't as bad as some people make out. Still think we need a top winger (Cavaleiro?) more than anything. From there squad just needs filling out (mostly loans imo) ie backup striker, another CB, another CM for backup.. Assuming we keep Mitro, Bryan, Mawson and Anguissa
Quote from: Milo on July 04, 2019, 09:46:37 AM
Championship will have moved on just as League 1 teams have. Championship players spilling down to the league below.
We cannot underestimate this league again!
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 04, 2019, 09:59:55 AMQuote from: Milo on July 04, 2019, 09:46:37 AM
Championship will have moved on just as League 1 teams have. Championship players spilling down to the league below.
We cannot underestimate this league again!
Very true. I believe the difference of going up is Mitro. We have to keep him whatever the cost.
Quote from: SP on July 03, 2019, 10:00:44 PMI like Seri but we proved last season that there is not room for Seri and Cairney in the same team. It would be good to see Seri leave and another striker/wide right player (Gayle) come in quickly. We may then be able to bolt up the doors, concentrate on training, and say no more transfers confident of having a team to make a top six position by Christmas.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Radio now.....Palace want Seri.
I wonder what for?
Quote from: Chutney on July 04, 2019, 04:11:18 PM
Have been reliably informed that we have only been actively working on signing players for the last week as TK has been away with AEW, I wouldn't expect much movement for a while yet based on that. Unfortunate situation, hopefully anybody we bring in can hit the ground running, they won't get much of a pre-season.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:51:30 PM
... and by the way I'd heard that we were in talks with a Right-Back called Kingsley Ehizibue from PEC Zwolle and we had a fee agreed but he chose to go to Koln for top flight football. And that was over a month ago now. So we clearly have been working on signings.
Quote from: ealex40 on July 04, 2019, 05:06:05 PM
Southampton are willing to listen to offers for two goalkeepers, Fraser Forster and Alex McCarthy, Sky Sports News understands.
Would love if we could sign Alex McCarthy. Have always thought how good he is. Probably end up too expensive for us to compete with Premier clubs.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.
Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 05:17:04 PMQuote from: ealex40 on July 04, 2019, 05:06:05 PM
Southampton are willing to listen to offers for two goalkeepers, Fraser Forster and Alex McCarthy, Sky Sports News understands.
Would love if we could sign Alex McCarthy. Have always thought how good he is. Probably end up too expensive for us to compete with Premier clubs.
Its crazy how far Forster stock has deminished. From a future england no.1 and saints no.1 to no.3 and barely used even in cup matches.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 04, 2019, 06:00:06 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 05:17:04 PMQuote from: ealex40 on July 04, 2019, 05:06:05 PM
Southampton are willing to listen to offers for two goalkeepers, Fraser Forster and Alex McCarthy, Sky Sports News understands.
Would love if we could sign Alex McCarthy. Have always thought how good he is. Probably end up too expensive for us to compete with Premier clubs.
Its crazy how far Forster stock has deminished. From a future england no.1 and saints no.1 to no.3 and barely used even in cup matches.
I was a keeper,I know when your confidence goes its a hard fight back,Foster and Joe Hart both.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2019, 04:52:29 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:51:30 PM
... and by the way I'd heard that we were in talks with a Right-Back called Kingsley Ehizibue from PEC Zwolle and we had a fee agreed but he chose to go to Koln for top flight football. And that was over a month ago now. So we clearly have been working on signings.
Was Khan in the UK at the time? Might be why it fell through.
Quote from: Nero on July 04, 2019, 07:42:23 PM
West Ham have agreed to sell Arnautovic to a Chinese club, dont know if they are calling his bluff but if he goes they might want Mitro
Quote from: ScalleysDad on July 04, 2019, 09:31:04 PMQuote from: Nero on July 04, 2019, 07:42:23 PM
West Ham have agreed to sell Arnautovic to a Chinese club, dont know if they are calling his bluff but if he goes they might want Mitro
If he does go they will almost certainly upset the apparent Karma at Motspur as they will need a replacement match fit and ready to go. Will Mitro go, will the money be enough? I suspect this could become a thread all on its own.
Quote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.
Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.
Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).
Quote from: Statto on July 04, 2019, 10:34:30 PMQuote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.
Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.
Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).
I accept he can work remotely... but are you suggesting he's devoting 100% of his time to Fulham, and just choosing to do it from the US because he prefers the weather or food over there?
Clearly the reason he's in the US is that he's spending much of his time on things related to his wrestling business and the Jaguars.
So yes of course he can pick up the phone and speak to a player, agent, Mackintosh etc. But he only has one mouth. He can't speak to them if he's busy on a telecon with Giant Haystacks and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
Quote from: Statto on July 04, 2019, 10:34:30 PMQuote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.
Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.
Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).
I accept he can work remotely... but are you suggesting he's devoting 100% of his time to Fulham, and just choosing to do it from the US because he prefers the weather or food over there?
Clearly the reason he's in the US is that he's spending much of his time on things related to his wrestling business and the Jaguars.
So yes of course he can pick up the phone and speak to a player, agent, Mackintosh etc. But he only has one mouth. He can't speak to them if he's busy on a telecon with Giant Haystacks and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
Quote from: Statto on July 04, 2019, 10:34:30 PMQuote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.
Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.
Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).
I accept he can work remotely... but are you suggesting he's devoting 100% of his time to Fulham, and just choosing to do it from the US because he prefers the weather or food over there?
Clearly the reason he's in the US is that he's spending much of his time on things related to his wrestling business and the Jaguars.
So yes of course he can pick up the phone and speak to a player, agent, Mackintosh etc. But he only has one mouth. He can't speak to them if he's busy on a telecon with Giant Haystacks and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
Quote from: Statto on July 04, 2019, 10:34:30 PMQuote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 05:36:37 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 04, 2019, 04:45:19 PM
Can we stop with this myth that Tony Khan being in America means he is completely incapable of progressing deals at Fulham? It's quite boring at this point. Unless they haven't invented Phones and/or the Internet in Jacksonville. Plus, despite what some want to believe, he's not a one-man band. Unless Brian Talbot and our other people are associated with recruitment are told to cease functioning while Tony Khan's away.
Besides, I thought the whole criticism of Tony Khan was he does everything on a computer? So surely he doesn't need to be at Motspur Park to sign our Belgian 2nd Division players we've never heard of.
Lol, thank you for this. I work in video conferencing, it's as simple as joining a meeting through VOIP, dial in, or internet phones (H323/SIP).
I accept he can work remotely... but are you suggesting he's devoting 100% of his time to Fulham, and just choosing to do it from the US because he prefers the weather or food over there?
Clearly the reason he's in the US is that he's spending much of his time on things related to his wrestling business and the Jaguars.
So yes of course he can pick up the phone and speak to a player, agent, Mackintosh etc. But he only has one mouth. He can't speak to them if he's busy on a telecon with Giant Haystacks and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
Quote from: filham on July 04, 2019, 11:22:17 AMQuote from: SP on July 03, 2019, 10:00:44 PMI like Seri but we proved last season that there is not room for Seri and Cairney in the same team. It would be good to see Seri leave and another striker/wide right player (Gayle) come in quickly. We may then be able to bolt up the doors, concentrate on training, and say no more transfers confident of having a team to make a top six position by Christmas.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Radio now.....Palace want Seri.
I wonder what for?
Quote from: Matt10 on July 04, 2019, 11:39:01 PM
I'm sure the NFL and AEW could probably care less if he's physically in the office or not.
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 05, 2019, 01:17:55 AM
I keep seeing this thing about us lacking chemistry at the start of the season because of a lack of early signings when we could have a team playing against Barnsley of; Bettinelli (or Fabri); Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite made out of players who will be in Portugal with us next week (again, assuming Mitrovic is going).
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 05, 2019, 01:17:55 AM
Can I also suggest if we're looking for a DoF with footballing experience we look to get Mike Rigg back?
Quote from: grandad on July 05, 2019, 08:42:52 AM
a lot of DoF´s have been spotted doing the weekly supermarket shopping, mowing lawns, washing cars, drinking coffee at Starbucks. Do none of them have their minds 100% on their job? How dare they , should be at their desk 24/7.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 05, 2019, 09:15:08 AMQuote from: grandad on July 05, 2019, 08:42:52 AM
a lot of DoF´s have been spotted doing the weekly supermarket shopping, mowing lawns, washing cars, drinking coffee at Starbucks. Do none of them have their minds 100% on their job? How dare they , should be at their desk 24/7.
That is not really the same thing as having multiple jobs though, is it? Regardless of your position on TK, wouldn't it seemingly be better if FFC was his sole work priority?
Quote from: bobby01 on July 04, 2019, 09:46:59 PMQuote from: ScalleysDad on July 04, 2019, 09:31:04 PMQuote from: Nero on July 04, 2019, 07:42:23 PM
West Ham have agreed to sell Arnautovic to a Chinese club, dont know if they are calling his bluff but if he goes they might want Mitro
If he does go they will almost certainly upset the apparent Karma at Motspur as they will need a replacement match fit and ready to go. Will Mitro go, will the money be enough? I suspect this could become a thread all on its own.
Not trying to be funny, but I have never been convinced that mitro suits the way that pelligrini wants his team to play. I personally believe he wants a mobile front line and for all his good points that is not micro.
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?
Quote from: KJS on July 05, 2019, 09:56:20 AMQuote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?
You seem to have forgotten that TK was part of the team who put a side together that got us promoted still I'd expect nothing else from you as your always wearing blinkers when it comes to Anything good the Khans do for the club.
Quote from: Twig on July 05, 2019, 10:06:30 AMI didn't think TK was involved till after we were relegatedQuote from: KJS on July 05, 2019, 09:56:20 AMQuote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?
You seem to have forgotten that TK was part of the team who put a side together that got us promoted still I'd expect nothing else from you as your always wearing blinkers when it comes to Anything good the Khans do for the club.
Careful with that line; 2 relegations, 1 promotion. Now that leaves a net negative by my simple arithmetic.
Quote from: KJS on July 05, 2019, 09:56:20 AMQuote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?
You seem to have forgotten that TK was part of the team who put a side together that got us promoted still I'd expect nothing else from you as your always wearing blinkers when it comes to Anything good the Khans do for the club.
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
OK well I've certainly been put in my place.
It's fine that TK spends most of his time on other business ventures during the transfer window, because he has a team of people around him.
So just out of interest, in addition to showing me another club who's DoF had no experience of football prior to taking up the role, can someone show me another DoF who only works part-time?
Or are we the only English club privileged enough to have a totally inexperienced, part-timer in charge of transfers?
Quote from: Nero on July 05, 2019, 11:24:31 AM
So far no first team players have left, is this because TK is in the USA and as soon as hes back they are all going to leave?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 05, 2019, 11:53:49 AMQuote from: Nero on July 05, 2019, 11:24:31 AM
So far no first team players have left, is this because TK is in the USA and as soon as hes back they are all going to leave?
Most likely.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 05, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
Please can these posts about TK be moved to another thread so we can re-focus on Summer Transfer Gossip.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 05, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
Please can these posts about TK be moved to another thread so we can re-focus on Summer Transfer Gossip.
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.
Quote from: grandad on July 05, 2019, 12:30:13 PM
All these anti TK posts are one of the reasons I only look once in a while. None of us knows what goes on at the Club, so why keep making unsubstantiated comments.
Quote from: Statto on July 05, 2019, 12:32:45 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 05, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
Please can these posts about TK be moved to another thread so we can re-focus on Summer Transfer Gossip.
There's a separate thread for rumours only
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=71152.0
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 12:58:58 PMQuote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.
He's actually a Chelsea player who was on loan at Sheffield Wednesday last season.
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 01:01:33 PMQuote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 12:58:58 PMQuote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.
He's actually a Chelsea player who was on loan at Sheffield Wednesday last season.
Tom Barclay is the source:
'Understand Fulham are keen on both Ezri Konsa and Michael Hector #ffc'
Quote from: KJS on July 05, 2019, 01:00:07 PMQuote from: grandad on July 05, 2019, 12:30:13 PM
All these anti TK posts are one of the reasons I only look once in a while. None of us knows what goes on at the Club, so why keep making unsubstantiated comments.
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Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 01:07:52 PMQuote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 01:01:33 PMQuote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 12:58:58 PMQuote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.
He's actually a Chelsea player who was on loan at Sheffield Wednesday last season.
Tom Barclay is the source:
'Understand Fulham are keen on both Ezri Konsa and Michael Hector #ffc'
I fully expect us to loan the requisite 5 players from the Premier League this summer.
I also doubt we'll spend a penny unless we sell anyone for big bucks.
Quote from: spikey norman on July 05, 2019, 01:34:32 PM
The Examiner Live a local paper for the Huddersfield and West Yorkshire area are reporting that Ivan Cavaleiro has cleared his house in England of all his possessions sending most back to Portugal amid interest from us and Huddersfield in signing him.
Maybe it is a sign Cavaleiro will be moving to a new club soon hopefully us.
Quote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 03:44:51 PMDo you mean Mendes the super agent? Neves is a player who he represents and is currently at Wolves
Tony Kahn is takling to Neves the 'super agent'. I guess he should learn from Leeds who is doing more then takling?
Quote from: junior white on July 05, 2019, 04:37:37 PMQuote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 03:44:51 PMDo you mean Mendes the super agent? Neves is a player who he represents and is currently at Wolves
Tony Kahn is takling to Neves the 'super agent'. I guess he should learn from Leeds who is doing more then takling?
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 05, 2019, 02:46:10 PMAh good point but maybe not so daft if say someone like Fulham as part of the transfer deal offered to put him up in a fully furnished luxury home so he didn't need his stuff.Quote from: spikey norman on July 05, 2019, 01:34:32 PM
The Examiner Live a local paper for the Huddersfield and West Yorkshire area are reporting that Ivan Cavaleiro has cleared his house in England of all his possessions sending most back to Portugal amid interest from us and Huddersfield in signing him.
Maybe it is a sign Cavaleiro will be moving to a new club soon hopefully us.
Wouldn't it be a bit daft to then be sending most of his belongings to Portugal?
Quote from: Twig on July 05, 2019, 01:27:33 PMQuote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 01:07:52 PMQuote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 01:01:33 PMQuote from: Two Ton Ted on July 05, 2019, 12:58:58 PMQuote from: Hoppus on July 05, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Fulham want Hector (CB) on loan from Sheffield W.
He's actually a Chelsea player who was on loan at Sheffield Wednesday last season.
Tom Barclay is the source:
'Understand Fulham are keen on both Ezri Konsa and Michael Hector #ffc'
I fully expect us to loan the requisite 5 players from the Premier League this summer.
I also doubt we'll spend a penny unless we sell anyone for big bucks.
Just curious, can I ask why you doubt we we will spend anything unless we sell?
Quote from: spikey norman on July 05, 2019, 05:36:36 PMIt sounds like he is escaping to Portugal as he has heard that there is interest from Fulham and Huddersfield.Quote from: Sting of the North on July 05, 2019, 02:46:10 PMAh good point but maybe not so daft if say someone like Fulham as part of the transfer deal offered to put him up in a fully furnished luxury home so he didn't need his stuff.Quote from: spikey norman on July 05, 2019, 01:34:32 PM
The Examiner Live a local paper for the Huddersfield and West Yorkshire area are reporting that Ivan Cavaleiro has cleared his house in England of all his possessions sending most back to Portugal amid interest from us and Huddersfield in signing him.
Maybe it is a sign Cavaleiro will be moving to a new club soon hopefully us.
Wouldn't it be a bit daft to then be sending most of his belongings to Portugal?
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PMHarvey back from his hols now..... still supposed to be Barca.
ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?
Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.
The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested
Quote from: David I on July 05, 2019, 06:33:26 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PMHarvey back from his hols now..... still supposed to be Barca.
ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?
Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.
The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM
ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?
Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.
The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 05, 2019, 09:11:05 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM
ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?
Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.
The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested
If those are the clubs looking for him...and he ends up at one of them it's the smart move for the young man. Wish him the best.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 07:36:15 PMHe (Harvey) is a Liverpool fan. Might explain the follows on social media.Quote from: David I on July 05, 2019, 06:33:26 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PMHarvey back from his hols now..... still supposed to be Barca.
ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?
Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.
The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested
Apparently he followed every player at liverpool on Instagram. He's either trying to wind people up or he's going there. Either way I don't really care. He's obviously not staying and he has an attitude so hopefully its done quickly
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM
ELLIOT TO LEAVE FULHAM?
Sky sources understand Harvey Elliot has rejected a new contract at Fulham.
The 16-year-old is being heavily linked with a move away from Craven Cottage with Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and RB Leipzig among the clubs thought to be interested
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.
Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 09:42:51 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.
Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.
Hector of Sheffield Wednesday and Konsa of Brentford? Right.
Quote from: Tabby on July 06, 2019, 09:49:18 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 09:42:51 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.
Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.
Hector of Sheffield Wednesday and Konsa of Brentford? Right.
Neither of those teams were on the lower half of the table last year.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 10:50:02 AMQuote from: Tabby on July 06, 2019, 09:49:18 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 09:42:51 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.
Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.
Hector of Sheffield Wednesday and Konsa of Brentford? Right.
Neither of those teams were on the lower half of the table last year.
Stop being pedantic. They finished 11 and 12. If that's good enough for you then fine but I would hope TK has higher aspirations.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 10:50:02 AMso does that make MItro a poor player because he finshed 19th in the Premier League, and why do team want to pay Place 50m for one of their players when they finished 12th he cant be any goodQuote from: Tabby on July 06, 2019, 09:49:18 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 09:42:51 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 08:59:21 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 08:44:09 AM
It's a bit concerning that other than Pontus Jansson, we keep being linked with lower half Championship players. That isn't going to win us the league.
Cavaliero? Gayle? Hector? Konsa? These aren't lower half players.
Hector of Sheffield Wednesday and Konsa of Brentford? Right.
Neither of those teams were on the lower half of the table last year.
Stop being pedantic. They finished 11 and 12. If that's good enough for you then fine but I would hope TK has higher aspirations.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 06, 2019, 10:50:02 AM
Stop being pedantic. They finished 11 and 12. If that's good enough for you then fine but I would hope TK has higher aspirations.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2019, 02:53:19 PMNot if we are truly moving for Konsi
Reliable Leeds journalist reporting Jansson's expected to be confirmed gone from Leeds in the next 48 Hours after a 5.5m bid from "another English club". Could be us, could not be. Bookies favourite at the moment is Brentford which is a bit random.
Quote from: junior white on July 06, 2019, 03:13:21 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2019, 02:53:19 PMNot if we are truly moving for Konsi
Reliable Leeds journalist reporting Jansson's expected to be confirmed gone from Leeds in the next 48 Hours after a 5.5m bid from "another English club". Could be us, could not be. Bookies favourite at the moment is Brentford which is a bit random.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2019, 03:39:17 PMQuote from: junior white on July 06, 2019, 03:13:21 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2019, 02:53:19 PMNot if we are truly moving for Konsi
Reliable Leeds journalist reporting Jansson's expected to be confirmed gone from Leeds in the next 48 Hours after a 5.5m bid from "another English club". Could be us, could not be. Bookies favourite at the moment is Brentford which is a bit random.
If we're after Jansson, great.
If Brentford get him, and it paves the way of Konsa to join us, great.
Quote from: Tabby on July 07, 2019, 09:26:45 PM
I have some bad news for the people who wanted us to get Mings, Villa seem to be signing him for £26 million.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 08, 2019, 10:35:01 AMQuote from: Tabby on July 07, 2019, 09:26:45 PM
I have some bad news for the people who wanted us to get Mings, Villa seem to be signing him for £26 million.
£26m for a player who never made it in the PL for Bournemouth....
Glad we didn't want him.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2019, 02:14:03 PM
Mitrovic was back at Motspur Park today as per Tom Cairney's Instagram, and there's stories going around about him signing a new contract with us today as well. Could be linked, could not be. Either way, looks like he's going to Portugal with us- so that'll be good.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 08, 2019, 05:07:17 PM
Tielemans has just been confirmed by Leicester. Would hope/expect Seri to sign for Monaco at some point in the next week or so, and that will then give us some room to manoeuvre.
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 08, 2019, 05:11:15 PM
I am not sure if I am losing my sense of humour so I don't know if it is a wind up but on another forum there is a posting that we are in for Nimes winger Martin Guyere.
Yes I do know who Marvin Gaye is and perhaps this was heard on the grapevine. Does anyone know?
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 05:57:49 PM
I see on sky transfer thingy that Spurs ste being patient where Sess is concerned. So that means they will wait until January to make an offer!!!!!!
Quote from: filham on July 08, 2019, 06:35:23 PMQuote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 05:57:49 PM
I see on sky transfer thingy that Spurs ste being patient where Sess is concerned. So that means they will wait until January to make an offer!!!!!!
If Spurs are going to play cat and mouse then other clubs should step in during this window and we should reach an agreement with one of them. We need this Sess. matter sorted so that Parker can recruit replacements and build his new team before the season starts.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 08, 2019, 12:23:32 PM
So many players overpriced - Mings, what £20M - although a good player, really not worth it. Hector & Konsa seem good prospects but I still feel we need a nippy 2nd striker to compliment Mitro & regret that Kamara doesn't fit the bill IMHO.
Quote from: KJS on July 08, 2019, 06:41:08 PMQuote from: Bracken White on July 08, 2019, 12:23:32 PM
So many players overpriced - Mings, what £20M - although a good player, really not worth it. Hector & Konsa seem good prospects but I still feel we need a nippy 2nd striker to compliment Mitro & regret that Kamara doesn't fit the bill IMHO.
We already have one in Rui Fonte :54:
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:45:15 PMQuote from: KJS on July 08, 2019, 06:41:08 PMQuote from: Bracken White on July 08, 2019, 12:23:32 PM
So many players overpriced - Mings, what £20M - although a good player, really not worth it. Hector & Konsa seem good prospects but I still feel we need a nippy 2nd striker to compliment Mitro & regret that Kamara doesn't fit the bill IMHO.
We already have one in Rui Fonte :54:
Would be great if he suddenly became capabable of Championship football, would be like a free signing. Cant see it tho.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
I have said before I think Arsenal have a policy of selling players with 2 years left on contracts if they wont sign. Not a bad idea tbf.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 08, 2019, 06:53:56 PMQuote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
I have said before I think Arsenal have a policy of selling players with 2 years left on contracts if they wont sign. Not a bad idea tbf.
Aaron Ramsey and Alexi Sanchez say you're incorrect. The Gunners WISH it was their policy to not let contracts run down. But again...players make more salary when their contracts run all the way down.
And if the 2 year minimum thing is in a contract before the player signs the contract, what player wants to sign that contract...unless the sign on bonus is crazy?
Quote from: filham on July 08, 2019, 06:35:23 PMIf paper talk is correct and Sess is determined to sign for Pochetino and Spurs, then it doesn't matter who comes in he just doesn't need to agree terms and then when Spurs come in they still low bal the offerQuote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 05:57:49 PM
I see on sky transfer thingy that Spurs ste being patient where Sess is concerned. So that means they will wait until January to make an offer!!!!!!
If Spurs are going to play cat and mouse then other clubs should step in during this window and we should reach an agreement with one of them. We need this Sess. matter sorted so that Parker can recruit replacements and build his new team before the season starts.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 08, 2019, 06:53:56 PMIt is a new policy bought in this summer by Arsenal, Sky Sports we're discussing it yesterday morning i think. Players like Auba will not be allowed to enter the last year they will look to sell beforehand, it wouldn't be written into the players contract as it will be an arsenal transfer policy, will be interesting to see if this policy worksQuote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
I have said before I think Arsenal have a policy of selling players with 2 years left on contracts if they wont sign. Not a bad idea tbf.
Aaron Ramsey and Alexi Sanchez say you're incorrect. The Gunners WISH it was their policy to not let contracts run down. But again...players make more salary when their contracts run all the way down.
And if the 2 year minimum thing is in a contract before the player signs the contract, what player wants to sign that contract...unless the sign on bonus is crazy?
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 08, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
I have said before I think Arsenal have a policy of selling players with 2 years left on contracts if they wont sign. Not a bad idea tbf.
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
Quote from: Tabby on July 08, 2019, 09:59:48 PMQuote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
They are pretty shrewd in the transfer market, odd that nobody else were seemingly in for him.
This does bring them up to 4 CB's, so they may be selling one of their other ones to finance their two new ones.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 08, 2019, 10:04:13 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 08, 2019, 09:59:48 PMQuote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
They are pretty shrewd in the transfer market, odd that nobody else were seemingly in for him.
This does bring them up to 4 CB's, so they may be selling one of their other ones to finance their two new ones.
Ezri Konsa to us?
Quote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 09, 2019, 07:39:40 AM
Levi's an astute, callous chairman. He likes to punish the team he buys from as well as screw down the money paid. He always has.
I expect us to get royally shafted on the last day of transfers in the Sess deal.
Can't stand the man and will actually lmfao when he comes to a bad end. What goes around comes around.
Coyw!
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 09, 2019, 09:45:25 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 09, 2019, 07:39:40 AM
Levi's an astute, callous chairman. He likes to punish the team he buys from as well as screw down the money paid. He always has.
I expect us to get royally shafted on the last day of transfers in the Sess deal.
Can't stand the man and will actually lmfao when he comes to a bad end. What goes around comes around.
Coyw!
Ditto. Though if he worked for Fulham I'm sure we'd have a very different view.
Quote from: spikey norman on July 08, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
A couple of sources saying Matt O'Riley will remain with us for at least this coming season as he is keen to work with Scotty Parker
Quote from: ScalleysDad on July 09, 2019, 10:03:47 AMQuote from: spikey norman on July 08, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
A couple of sources saying Matt O'Riley will remain with us for at least this coming season as he is keen to work with Scotty Parker
I'd be interested to know if working with SP had any influence on Mitrovic signing. I have not seen it written anywhere but as was covered a while ago there did seem to be a good rapport between them especially during the long downward spiral of the Ranieri term.
Quote from: Riverside on July 09, 2019, 10:45:09 AMQuote from: ScalleysDad on July 09, 2019, 10:03:47 AMQuote from: spikey norman on July 08, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
A couple of sources saying Matt O'Riley will remain with us for at least this coming season as he is keen to work with Scotty Parker
I'd be interested to know if working with SP had any influence on Mitrovic signing. I have not seen it written anywhere but as was covered a while ago there did seem to be a good rapport between them especially during the long downward spiral of the Ranieri term.
Mitro said in his interview working with SP was a factor
And also TK !
Ok thanks. Bodes well for on the pitch and perhaps some respite for the back office.
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Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 10:56:33 AM
Could Brentford be our main rivals for promotion?
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AMGood player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannonQuote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
Quote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AMGood player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannonQuote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AMQuote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AMGood player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannonQuote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 09, 2019, 11:26:02 AM~Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AMQuote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AMGood player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannonQuote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha
A lot of the responses on social media i've seen is that unless they replace well, selling him for 5.5m is ridiculous and they won't find an adequate replacement at that price. Maybe I've just seen the more pessimist fans though.
Quote from: junior white on July 09, 2019, 11:31:35 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 09, 2019, 11:26:02 AM~Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AMQuote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AMGood player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannonQuote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha
A lot of the responses on social media i've seen is that unless they replace well, selling him for 5.5m is ridiculous and they won't find an adequate replacement at that price. Maybe I've just seen the more pessimist fans though.
Fee is 4 million with 1.5 in add ons (one of which is promotion during the contract period)
Quote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 11:46:57 AM
Just so I've got this clear..
Pontus Jansson
- 20 caps for Sweden
- 7.27 whoscored rating last season
£5.5m
Tomas Kalas
- 19 caps for Czech Republic
- 7.06 whoscored rating for last season
£8m
Tyrone Mings
- 0 caps
- 6.98 whoscored rating for last season
£26m
:54:
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AMPerhaps the reason that the club decided to sell him was the fact he is actually a loose cannon and a disruption in the squadQuote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AMGood player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannonQuote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha
Quote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 12:19:56 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 11:23:54 AMPerhaps the reason that the club decided to sell him was the fact he is actually a loose cannon and a disruption in the squadQuote from: KJS on July 09, 2019, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: simplyfulham on July 09, 2019, 06:56:31 AMGood player but some at Leeds feel he can be a bit of a loose cannonQuote from: twang on July 08, 2019, 09:57:48 PM
Jansson to Brentford now confirmed. Have to say that it's a brilliant signing for them (better than it would have been for us).
That is an excellent transfer for them. Gutted we've not moved on that one.
They all adored him and said he would never leave the biggest club in the Championship on Thursday. Now he's supposedly a loose cannon and they chose to get rid of him! haha
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 12:29:19 PM
That's not the point of the post. The point was, is that it's funny how the Leeds fans said they were way too big a club to lose him and he would never go, but now the fans never liked him anyway. Quick swing in 3 days
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 02:19:20 PM
What is this, the Leeds United Fan Club? I do get your point but it's fun to poke fun at other fans. Especially Leeds fans.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 09, 2019, 02:28:21 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 09, 2019, 02:19:20 PM
What is this, the Leeds United Fan Club? I do get your point but it's fun to poke fun at other fans. Especially Leeds fans.
You are of course welcome to poke as much fun as you want to about anything.
Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 09, 2019, 02:29:41 PM
On a free we should be all over this...
ADOMAH'S FOREST MEDICAL
Albert Adomah is currently undergoing a medical in London with Nottingham Forest.
The forward has agreed terms with the Championship club and is on course to sign this evening.
However, there is still time for him to go elsewhere - there are still other clubs interested in the 31-year-old, including West Brom.
Adomah is available on a Bosman free agent after being released by Aston Villa.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 09, 2019, 03:41:57 PMthat's actually the one part of the stats model that I agree with. The old al fated model of oldies freebies and loans, nearly sent us to the third division last time we got relegated. All our best left for pretty much peanuts. If any player leaves now, they will go for big money which can be re invested into the squad. Yes you might miss out on the odd temporary gem, but this surely has to be a better long term strategy, that also worked well for Wenger and arsenalQuote from: Art Vandelay on July 09, 2019, 02:29:41 PM
On a free we should be all over this...
ADOMAH'S FOREST MEDICAL
Albert Adomah is currently undergoing a medical in London with Nottingham Forest.
The forward has agreed terms with the Championship club and is on course to sign this evening.
However, there is still time for him to go elsewhere - there are still other clubs interested in the 31-year-old, including West Brom.
Adomah is available on a Bosman free agent after being released by Aston Villa.
He'd be a perfect signing for us on a free, London lad too.
Alas, he's way too old for our stats model.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 09, 2019, 04:28:26 PM.
The only first teamer's not in Portugal...
Sess- injury (Spurs also just gave Ben Davies a 5 year deal...and Danny Rose is still there)
Seri - international
Ream - international (he did really well)
Anguissa - international
If all 4 stay this is a pretty packed squad. Still need a right winger.
Quote from: bobby01 on July 09, 2019, 04:41:28 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 09, 2019, 04:28:26 PM.
The only first teamer's not in Portugal...
Sess- injury (Spurs also just gave Ben Davies a 5 year deal...and Danny Rose is still there)
Seri - international
Ream - international (he did really well)
Anguissa - international
If all 4 stay this is a pretty packed squad. Still need a right winger.
I think Ayite is really underrated here, he was the one who allowed Fred to bomb forward, by covering overlapping and generally working as a pair. Something that was blatantly missing last season when the RB was constantly exposed.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2019, 05:44:47 PMI read that as Glastonbury 🙄
Seri to Galatasary?
Quote from: David I on July 10, 2019, 01:56:16 AMthey wouldn't sign him on last year's form.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2019, 05:44:47 PMI read that as Glastonbury 🙄
Seri to Galatasary?
Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 10, 2019, 10:52:56 AM
Too late, really thought he could do a job for us.
BREAKING NEWS
Nottingham Forest have signed winger Albert Adomah on a two-year deal.
Adomah, 31, was released by Aston Villa at the end of last season following their promotion to the Premier League.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 10, 2019, 02:51:28 PM
There's a picture on Twitter of a guy with Jovane Cabral of Sporting at Westfield. The caption reads:
Just met Jovane Cabral in Westfields shopping centre. Said he can't wait to get started for Fulham and loves the ambitions of the club #FFC #COYW
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 10, 2019, 02:51:28 PM
There's a picture on Twitter of a guy with Jovane Cabral of Sporting at Westfield. The caption reads:
Just met Jovane Cabral in Westfields shopping centre. Said he can't wait to get started for Fulham and loves the ambitions of the club #FFC #COYW
Quote from: f321ffc on July 10, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
#AstonVilla closing in on Ezri Konsa. Talks progressing over deal for his £12m #Brentfordfc release clause. #Bees #avfc skysports.com/transfer-centre
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 10, 2019, 04:00:10 PMQuote from: f321ffc on July 10, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
#AstonVilla closing in on Ezri Konsa. Talks progressing over deal for his £12m #Brentfordfc release clause. #Bees #avfc skysports.com/transfer-centre
Wow they will have spent almost £60m. I really hope they crash Like we did and come back down. Never liked Villa
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2019, 04:04:28 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 10, 2019, 04:00:10 PMQuote from: f321ffc on July 10, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
#AstonVilla closing in on Ezri Konsa. Talks progressing over deal for his £12m #Brentfordfc release clause. #Bees #avfc skysports.com/transfer-centre
Wow they will have spent almost £60m. I really hope they crash Like we did and come back down. Never liked Villa
Don't think they will,in fact they could be the
shock side this season and finish top 8,do what Wolves did.
Quote from: Riversider on July 10, 2019, 04:10:44 PM
With Harvey Elliott signing for Liverpool would love us to make a move for Ryan Kent, only 22 , rated at £10 million by Liverpool and is going to be a top drawer player,
Plays out wide, explosive pace, and loves to run at full backs, was outstanding for Rangers last season and would be a real coup if we could get him.
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on July 10, 2019, 03:21:32 PMQuote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 10, 2019, 02:51:28 PM
There's a picture on Twitter of a guy with Jovane Cabral of Sporting at Westfield. The caption reads:
Just met Jovane Cabral in Westfields shopping centre. Said he can't wait to get started for Fulham and loves the ambitions of the club #FFC #COYW
Yeah I saw this but also that the guy blocked his face out with a smiley face so not too sure if we can trust it.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2019, 04:19:19 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 10, 2019, 04:10:44 PM
With Harvey Elliott signing for Liverpool would love us to make a move for Ryan Kent, only 22 , rated at £10 million by Liverpool and is going to be a top drawer player,
Plays out wide, explosive pace, and loves to run at full backs, was outstanding for Rangers last season and would be a real coup if we could get him.
Think he's Wednesday bound.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 10, 2019, 05:12:05 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....
Could be epic. Maybe have to extend the contract of MLM to calm people down. :005:
Quote from: colinwhite on July 10, 2019, 05:34:15 PM
K mac ,Ross macormack ,Tc
Quote from: Statto on July 10, 2019, 05:12:59 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....
I never expected us to sign either. They're just not the sort of players we sign these days. As a general rule, if you've heard of them, they ain't coming to Fulham. Whilst Jansson goes to Brentford, TK will be busy arranging to pay twice as much for Anony Mous-Baastard, a 5'2" keeper in the Latvian second division.
Quote from: KJS on July 10, 2019, 07:33:24 PMQuote from: Statto on July 10, 2019, 05:12:59 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 10, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
So lets say Fulham lose out on Konsa and Jannson, how much of a meltdown are we facing.....
I never expected us to sign either. They're just not the sort of players we sign these days. As a general rule, if you've heard of them, they ain't coming to Fulham. Whilst Jansson goes to Brentford, TK will be busy arranging to pay twice as much for Anony Mous-Baastard, a 5'2" keeper in the Latvian second division.
Back to normal regards your feelings about TK then :doh:
Quote from: Statto on July 10, 2019, 06:09:28 PMQuote from: colinwhite on July 10, 2019, 05:34:15 PM
K mac ,Ross macormack ,Tc
Ross McCormack and TC certainly pre-date TK
sorry misunderstood ,didnt realise you meant undet TK
Mcdonald is debateable. He was signed after TK came in but we'd been in for him the summer before when Rigg was DoF
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 10, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
Assomballonga is not required
Why is it that every player some other team sign is a missed opportunity for the Whites?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
We don't need that many signings, especially if we can retain all but Sessegnon and Seri in-terms of players who played a significant amount last season. Said it before, we could play a team of;
Bettinelli; Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite.
Rodak, Odoi, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley, Kebano, de la Torre, Fonte.
That's from the players we have in Portugal at the moment, not even factoring in Zambo or Ream.
I'd like to get the signings in ASAP, but it's not like the position we were in last summer where we almost literally didn't have a team going into Pre-Season- we're in a pretty strong position squad wise already. So I don't really mind waiting in that sense.
Quote from: Milo on July 10, 2019, 11:58:41 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
We don't need that many signings, especially if we can retain all but Sessegnon and Seri in-terms of players who played a significant amount last season. Said it before, we could play a team of;
Bettinelli; Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite.
Rodak, Odoi, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley, Kebano, de la Torre, Fonte.
That's from the players we have in Portugal at the moment, not even factoring in Zambo or Ream.
I'd like to get the signings in ASAP, but it's not like the position we were in last summer where we almost literally didn't have a team going into Pre-Season- we're in a pretty strong position squad wise already. So I don't really mind waiting in that sense.
That leaves us at least 4 first team players to upgrade should we go back up... same mistakes again? Too many holes to fill?
Quote from: Milo on July 10, 2019, 11:58:41 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
We don't need that many signings, especially if we can retain all but Sessegnon and Seri in-terms of players who played a significant amount last season. Said it before, we could play a team of;
Bettinelli; Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite.
Rodak, Odoi, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley, Kebano, de la Torre, Fonte.
That's from the players we have in Portugal at the moment, not even factoring in Zambo or Ream.
I'd like to get the signings in ASAP, but it's not like the position we were in last summer where we almost literally didn't have a team going into Pre-Season- we're in a pretty strong position squad wise already. So I don't really mind waiting in that sense.
That leaves us at least 4 first team players to upgrade should we go back up... same mistakes again? Too many holes to fill?
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
Quote from: KJS on July 11, 2019, 06:38:25 AMQuote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
Started by his agent no doubt
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 12:25:31 AMQuote from: Milo on July 10, 2019, 11:58:41 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 10, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
We don't need that many signings, especially if we can retain all but Sessegnon and Seri in-terms of players who played a significant amount last season. Said it before, we could play a team of;
Bettinelli; Christie, Mawson, Le Marchand, Bryan; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Mitrovic, Ayite.
Rodak, Odoi, S. Sessegnon, O'Riley, Kebano, de la Torre, Fonte.
That's from the players we have in Portugal at the moment, not even factoring in Zambo or Ream.
I'd like to get the signings in ASAP, but it's not like the position we were in last summer where we almost literally didn't have a team going into Pre-Season- we're in a pretty strong position squad wise already. So I don't really mind waiting in that sense.
That leaves us at least 4 first team players to upgrade should we go back up... same mistakes again? Too many holes to fill?
I'd say 4 first team signings after promotion is about standard. Wolves are the perfect example in that sense. They went up and signed Patricio, Jonny, Moutinho and Jimenez to start (and when they switched to 3-5-2 Dendoncker came in as well).
If we went up next season I'd expect Mawson, Bryan, Zambo, Cairney and Mitrovic to be starting the following season out of the players we have currently at the club- which I'd expect to go to 7 total players with a new right-sided Centre-Back and Winger signing this summer. But also, let's worry about getting promoted first before getting into any of that.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AMAre you sure
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AMAre you sure
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Quote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AMSeems to be, i said the other day cannot remember (i do have a poor memory though) when we last signed someone while we were away at training camp. Sure someone knowsQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AMAre you sure
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
The same joke again?
Quote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AMha ha another wind upQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AMAre you sure
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
The same joke again?
Quote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AMAre you sure
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
The same joke again?
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AMAre you sure
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Quote from: Statto on July 11, 2019, 08:27:05 AMQuote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AMAre you sure
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
The same joke again?
So so funny and it just never gets old!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 08:36:44 AMPersonally i find it tedious as wellQuote from: Statto on July 11, 2019, 08:27:05 AMQuote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2019, 08:21:21 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 07:54:44 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AMAre you sure
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
The same joke again?
So so funny and it just never gets old!
Better than reading the constant drivel you and your two amigos keep churning out in every thread.
What was it you said....."Lighten Up Mate"😋
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 07:45:00 AMIt was going to be Andy Carroll but he couldn't get up onto the physio table.
Breaking News......Someone is having a medical this morning.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Quote from: KJS on July 11, 2019, 06:38:25 AMQuote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
Started by his agent no doubt
Quote from: Nero on July 11, 2019, 09:48:09 AMQuote from: KJS on July 11, 2019, 06:38:25 AMQuote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
Started by his agent no doubt
on a pay pler play deal wouldnt be bad, final 25 mins 1-0 down Mitro and Carroll up front
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%
From Soccerstats.com
We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.
We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.
That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.
COYW!
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PMWhie I don't disagree that we need defensive reinforcements, it always makes me smile when we use the to say we need this that or the other, but then mock them when players are signed based on stats.Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%
From Soccerstats.com
We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.
We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.
That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.
COYW!
Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through 064.gif 064.gif
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%
From Soccerstats.com
We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.
We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.
That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.
COYW!
Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through 064.gif 064.gif
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 12:17:56 PMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%
From Soccerstats.com
We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.
We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.
That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.
COYW!
Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through 064.gif 064.gif
We're facing the likes of David Nugent now, not Aguero. The defence is not an issue at this level. Especially with Stuart Gray coaching them.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%
From Soccerstats.com
We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.
We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.
That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.
COYW!
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 11, 2019, 12:34:44 PMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%
From Soccerstats.com
We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.
We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.
That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.
COYW!
I think MLM will do fine in the Championship, his main errors are being sloppy in possession and in the Championship teams don't press as much as the EPL, so shouldn't be as bad. He is aggressive and will be up for the fight. I'd like to see how Mawson does in pre-season because he's supposed to be good in the air. Odoi and Ream not quite so reliable in the air, Odoi can actually jump quite high but he has an annoying habit of inexplicably ducking under a cross for some reason.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 12:17:56 PMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%
From Soccerstats.com
We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.
We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.
That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.
COYW!
Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through 064.gif 064.gif
We're facing the likes of David Nugent now, not Aguero. The defence is not an issue at this level. Especially with Stuart Gray coaching them.
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
We just lost 3-1 to League 2 Cambridge UTD, MLM was at fault for two of their goals yet you think he'll be fine in the championship..... I'll have whatever your're drinking.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 01:10:17 PMQuote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
We just lost 3-1 to League 2 Cambridge UTD, MLM was at fault for two of their goals yet you think he'll be fine in the championship..... I'll have whatever your're drinking.
Do you actually think that is how you evaluate a player? Or that the loss to Oldham defines all players that participated in that game?
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
Does an entire season of terrible performances not either?
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 11, 2019, 01:30:07 PM
Unless we have a keeper who can catch a ball in the six yard box and a pair of centre halves who can head a ball away then we will not be bothering the promotion places, and to be honest I not sure we have either.
I'm not entirely sure our current keepers or centre halves fit that criteria.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 01:47:32 PMQuote from: Two Ton Ted on July 11, 2019, 01:30:07 PM
Unless we have a keeper who can catch a ball in the six yard box and a pair of centre halves who can head a ball away then we will not be bothering the promotion places, and to be honest I not sure we have either.
I'm not entirely sure our current keepers or centre halves fit that criteria.
Well, compared to our last season in the Championship, we have replaced Kalas with Mawson and MLM, and we have replaced Button with Fabri and Rodak. We finished third then, so maybe not out of the realm of possibilities that we may be bothering the promotion places?
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 01:58:54 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 01:47:32 PMQuote from: Two Ton Ted on July 11, 2019, 01:30:07 PM
Unless we have a keeper who can catch a ball in the six yard box and a pair of centre halves who can head a ball away then we will not be bothering the promotion places, and to be honest I not sure we have either.
I'm not entirely sure our current keepers or centre halves fit that criteria.
Well, compared to our last season in the Championship, we have replaced Kalas with Mawson and MLM, and we have replaced Button with Fabri and Rodak. We finished third then, so maybe not out of the realm of possibilities that we may be bothering the promotion places?
We haven't replaced Kalas with Mawson, Mawson doesn't, and never will play right side the centre backs. We only currently have Odoi that can play there.
We've also downgraded Targett to Bryan and Fredericks to Christie.
Our defence is worse then it was when we went up, significantly.
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 01:58:54 PM
We haven't replaced Kalas with Mawson, Mawson doesn't, and never will play right side the centre backs. We only currently have Odoi that can play there.
We've also downgraded Targett to Bryan and Fredericks to Christie.
Our defence is worse then it was when we went up, significantly.
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AMFor 60m 😉
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:39:58 PMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 11, 2019, 12:34:44 PMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%
From Soccerstats.com
We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.
We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.
That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.
COYW!
I think MLM will do fine in the Championship, his main errors are being sloppy in possession and in the Championship teams don't press as much as the EPL, so shouldn't be as bad. He is aggressive and will be up for the fight. I'd like to see how Mawson does in pre-season because he's supposed to be good in the air. Odoi and Ream not quite so reliable in the air, Odoi can actually jump quite high but he has an annoying habit of inexplicably ducking under a cross for some reason.
We just lost 3-1 to League 2 Cambridge UTD, MLM was at fault for two of their goals yet you think he'll be fine in the championship..... I'll have whatever your're drinking.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PMExactly...... what was it - 89 or 83 conceded in 38 games last year and that was including Chambers who came good as DM protecting the defence.Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.
We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.
History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.
Get it sorted.
COYW!
Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.
Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%
From Soccerstats.com
We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.
We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.
That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.
COYW!
Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through 064.gif 064.gif
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AMThat's good news😂 hopefully Mawson is back to full fitness that leaves a vacancy on the treatment table Carroll will be a permanent replacement there😂
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
Quote from: David I on July 11, 2019, 02:20:51 PMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PMExactly...... what was it - 89 or 83 conceded in 38 games last year and that was including Chambers who came good as DM protecting the defence.
Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through 064.gif 064.gif
🤡
Quote from: f321ffc on July 11, 2019, 02:46:44 PMQuote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AMThat's good news😂 hopefully Mawson is back to full fitness that leaves a vacancy on the treatment table Carroll will be a permanent replacement there😂
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PMThere was another post (maybe further up this thread) about a twitter post with his face blocked out saying he couldn't wait to start for Fulham so you may be right?
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
Quote from: David I on July 11, 2019, 03:50:01 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PMThere was another post (maybe further up this thread) about a twitter post with his face blocked out saying he couldn't wait to start for Fulham so you may be right?
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
Quote from: David I on July 11, 2019, 03:50:01 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PMThere was another post (maybe further up this thread) about a twitter post with his face blocked out saying he couldn't wait to start for Fulham so you may be right?
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
Quote from: hovewhite on July 11, 2019, 03:57:33 PMJovane Cabral is a winger from Portugal think he is at Sporting
Who's Cabral?
QuoteJust some info about the player: he's a physically very strong player, that started the season extremely well as a super sub with Peseiro, but has lost importance in the team (some will say unfairly) with Keizer. He always seemed far more comfortable coming on as a sub (his impact was great in that role, lots of decisive goals and assists) than as a starter, where he'd rarely show up.
As a player he's a right footed left winger. Best qualities are his shooting ability (good in all aspects: long range, finishing close range, shooting with both feet; crossing is also quite good), his "sixth sense" to put himself in good positions to score, his physicality (dude's built like the ex-Porto player Hulk), and decent pace. His weaknesses are mainly down to his mediocre dribbiling ability / 1v1 success rate, just doesn't have the skills to pull it off, close control isn't great.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:53:39 PMQuote from: David I on July 11, 2019, 03:50:01 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PMThere was another post (maybe further up this thread) about a twitter post with his face blocked out saying he couldn't wait to start for Fulham so you may be right?
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
i saw that and to be fair took it with a pinch of salt but i have just been told the announcement is tonight so logiclly it must be him
got to say, i know nothing about him though
Quote from: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/
Quote from: Tabby on July 11, 2019, 04:02:49 PMPossibly, from what I understand he is a winger, where as AK is a striker who we play wide.
Googled the name and found a post to the Fulham subreddit from a Sporting fan from when the rumour started about a month ago.QuoteJust some info about the player: he's a physically very strong player, that started the season extremely well as a super sub with Peseiro, but has lost importance in the team (some will say unfairly) with Keizer. He always seemed far more comfortable coming on as a sub (his impact was great in that role, lots of decisive goals and assists) than as a starter, where he'd rarely show up.
As a player he's a right footed left winger. Best qualities are his shooting ability (good in all aspects: long range, finishing close range, shooting with both feet; crossing is also quite good), his "sixth sense" to put himself in good positions to score, his physicality (dude's built like the ex-Porto player Hulk), and decent pace. His weaknesses are mainly down to his mediocre dribbiling ability / 1v1 success rate, just doesn't have the skills to pull it off, close control isn't great.
Sounds like a better version of Kamara to me.
Quote from: Tabby on July 11, 2019, 04:10:07 PMApparently moving for 5 million euros too, good move for him and both clubs i reckon
In former Fulham player news, Jesse Joronen has moved to Brescia in the Serie A. He apparently turned Villa down.
Might be wise to bet on Rodak considering how well our former keepers are doing.
Quote from: Tabby on July 11, 2019, 04:10:07 PM
In former Fulham player news, Jesse Joronen has moved to Brescia in the Serie A. He apparently turned Villa down.
Might be wise to bet on Rodak considering how well our former keepers are doing.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:41:15 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 04:06:27 PMQuote from: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/
Anyone actually seen or heard of him before being linked? Interested to get someone's point of view
Adama Traore is the best comparison I could make. He's quite strong and quick, but has a shall we say questionable end product.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:41:15 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 04:06:27 PMQuote from: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/
Anyone actually seen or heard of him before being linked? Interested to get someone's point of view
Adama Traore is the best comparison I could make. He's quite strong and quick, but has a shall we say questionable end product.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:42:11 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:41:15 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 04:06:27 PMQuote from: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/
Anyone actually seen or heard of him before being linked? Interested to get someone's point of view
Adama Traore is the best comparison I could make. He's quite strong and quick, but has a shall we say questionable end product.
if he's remotely like Traore, i'm excited. Exactly the kind of player we need.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:44:21 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:42:11 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 04:41:15 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 04:06:27 PMQuote from: jelmo on July 11, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
Info on Cabral
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-target-deal-for-exciting-attacker/
Anyone actually seen or heard of him before being linked? Interested to get someone's point of view
Adama Traore is the best comparison I could make. He's quite strong and quick, but has a shall we say questionable end product.
if he's remotely like Traore, i'm excited. Exactly the kind of player we need.
Bit of a mix of Traore and Aluko. The common theme of the two being they aren't exactly reliable end product wise. I think he'd be a good signing though, as long as it was in addition to another winger- and not the only winger.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
Luke Garbutt going to Ipswich on loan. I remember when we loaned him as the next Baines and how that went.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 04:53:29 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
Luke Garbutt going to Ipswich on loan. I remember when we loaned him as the next Baines and how that went.
Held himself in high esteem,and thought himself better than us when he was on loan.
Read at the time Everton fans saying he big head.
Want be the first prospect to slowly disappear of the scene.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
Quote from: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.
Quote from: David I on July 11, 2019, 03:50:01 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PMThere was another post (maybe further up this thread) about a twitter post with his face blocked out saying he couldn't wait to start for Fulham so you may be right?
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:58:37 PMQuote from: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.
Sporting have a good record of creating and nurturing talent though.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:10:35 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:58:37 PMQuote from: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.
Sporting have a good record of creating and nurturing talent though.
There'd be two or three Sporting players I'd want ahead of Cabral. Specifically Bruno Gaspar, Domingos Duarte and Iuri Medeiros- but he should still be good for us as long as it wasn't instead of going for a "big" signing like a Cavaleiro.
But anyway, let's hope it's actually true that there's an announcement tonight (and it's Cabral) before getting ahead of ourselves.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 04:53:29 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
Luke Garbutt going to Ipswich on loan. I remember when we loaned him as the next Baines and how that went.
Held himself in high esteem,and thought himself better than us when he was on loan.
Read at the time Everton fans saying he big head.
Want be the first prospect to slowly disappear of the scene.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 05:12:44 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:10:35 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:58:37 PMQuote from: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.
Sporting have a good record of creating and nurturing talent though.
There'd be two or three Sporting players I'd want ahead of Cabral. Specifically Bruno Gaspar, Domingos Duarte and Iuri Medeiros- but he should still be good for us as long as it wasn't instead of going for a "big" signing like a Cavaleiro.
But anyway, let's hope it's actually true that there's an announcement tonight (and it's Cabral) before getting ahead of ourselves.
true. I wonder where Cavaleiro ends up. I kinda thought the whole Mendes podcast mention was a bit of a shout out to fans that it was him we were getting.
very different subject but did Sako end up anywhere? I'd love to see him at fulham.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 05:23:37 PM
@wheelerdealer - I did mean Bakary yes. think he could do a job for us although I wonder what his wages would be now. Be interested to see whether us spending is reliant on those two. I think we'll likely loan Seri out. No idea what happens to Sess still. I know its contentious, but I'd still imagine we could afford to at least spend 15-20m and not be hampered too much by FFP
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 05:10:35 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2019, 04:58:37 PMQuote from: filham on July 11, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
So, none of us have seen or heard of him, he is from overseas, can't beat his marker, sounds like a risk to me with at least 6 months to acclimatise.
Sporting have a good record of creating and nurturing talent though.
There'd be two or three Sporting players I'd want ahead of Cabral. Specifically Bruno Gaspar, Domingos Duarte and Iuri Medeiros- but he should still be good for us as long as it wasn't instead of going for a "big" signing like a Cavaleiro.
But anyway, let's hope it's actually true that there's an announcement tonight (and it's Cabral) before getting ahead of ourselves.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 11, 2019, 05:31:19 PM
Jovane Cabral
I'll believe it when I see him holding the shirt.
Looks ok in youtube videos. Not game changer but good depth pickup.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 05:45:44 PM
Imagine this, we need a squad. We need wingers. Cabral is a young winger. It's a positive move.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
We've bid 6 million for Ollie Mcburnie of Swansea I've just been text....Can't say I've seen him play.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 11, 2019, 05:54:44 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 05:45:44 PM
Imagine this, we need a squad. We need wingers. Cabral is a young winger. It's a positive move.
Absolutely, he has excellent stats as a sub and we need to fill out the squad before that top signings will sign on the dotted line.
I'd personally, like to see a few more homegrown players to fill out the bench. We have to name seven homegrowns in our matchday 18 next year.
Quote from: Riversider on July 11, 2019, 05:42:54 PMhes a better player than sess I use to bet on sporting and watch there games often, if anything sess would be back up to cabralQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 11, 2019, 05:31:19 PM
Jovane Cabral
I'll believe it when I see him holding the shirt.
Looks ok in youtube videos. Not game changer but good depth pickup.
He actually looks quite underwhelming in his hilights reel, looks like he has played all his football at local park level , he certainly doesn't have express pace, and can't see how we can play him and Kamara in the same side as both are very similar,
Will be interesting to see how he goes in some of the pre season games,
Let's hope for the best.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
We've bid 6 million for Ollie Mcburnie of Swansea I've just been text....Can't say I've seen him play.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 06:00:05 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
We've bid 6 million for Ollie Mcburnie of Swansea I've just been text....Can't say I've seen him play.
Either you're being lied to or we're not actually seriously going for him considering Swansea want 20m for him. He was one of the players I wanted as a potential Mitrovic replacement, but that's obviously not needed now. Think McBurnie ends up in the Prem with either Brighton or Sheffield Utd.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 06:04:21 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2019, 06:00:05 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
We've bid 6 million for Ollie Mcburnie of Swansea I've just been text....Can't say I've seen him play.
Either you're being lied to or we're not actually seriously going for him considering Swansea want 20m for him. He was one of the players I wanted as a potential Mitrovic replacement, but that's obviously not needed now. Think McBurnie ends up in the Prem with either Brighton or Sheffield Utd.
Not lied to,a friend in Suffolk's son works at the Express...He's got a few right before.
6 mill just a tester maybe,think your over top with 20 mill...
Quote from: Tabby on July 09, 2019, 05:18:38 PMAgree he and Kabano have spent so much time unavailable through injury.
Only problem with Ayite is how injury prone he is in my opinion.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 06:17:48 PM
Just had a look on oddschecker 8/11 for Sheff Utd
No show for us.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 08:50:10 PMI heard that it was Norwich in for Robinson maybe both then. Good for Preston as that would drive the price upQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2019, 06:17:48 PM
Just had a look on oddschecker 8/11 for Sheff Utd
No show for us.
Apparently Sheffield United have just bid on Callum Robinson of Preston so maybe they will not pursue mcBurnie
Quote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
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Quote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PMQuote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
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I smell bullpoo
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 05:45:44 PM
Imagine this, we need a squad. We need wingers. Cabral is a young winger. It's a positive move.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 05:45:44 PM
Imagine this, we need a squad. We need wingers. Cabral is a young winger. It's a positive move.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 12, 2019, 02:30:12 AM
You need bench players which Ayite and Kebano are. You also need an everyday 90 minute right side attacking player in a 4-2-3-1.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 11, 2019, 11:07:41 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PMQuote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
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I smell bullpoo
We normally announce on Friday dont we. Hopefully hear something tomorrow
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 08:27:40 AM
Definitely a medical this morning,my cousin Vinnie has his yearly one for driving his furniture van in Kent.
Coyw..
FFS ...Mince your going crazy,its called "Lack of Singings Disease"... I'm off to the shed to hide away,let me know if someone does actually have a medical....Love from Mr & Mrs Mince n T.😝😝😝
Quote from: LVBPT on July 12, 2019, 09:15:21 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 11, 2019, 11:07:41 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PMQuote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
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I smell bullpoo
We normally announce on Friday dont we. Hopefully hear something tomorrow
this is why people get fed up on here. i passed on information that was given to me. what do i get out of making it up?
wont bother next time.
Quote from: OMalleyCat on July 12, 2019, 09:31:05 AM
Cavaleiro apparently coming in on loan.
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:34:06 AMQuote from: OMalleyCat on July 12, 2019, 09:31:05 AM
Cavaleiro apparently coming in on loan.
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Loan to buy hopefully. Whats the source?
Quote from: deano_632 on July 12, 2019, 09:42:19 AMNow that would be a signing!
@JPercyTelegraph
#Fulham are poised to sign
@Wolves
winger Ivan Cavaleiro on a season's loan. Cavaleiro was a target for Fulham last year and understand there is an option to buy #wwfc
Quote from: deano_632 on July 12, 2019, 09:42:19 AM
@JPercyTelegraph
#Fulham are poised to sign
@Wolves
winger Ivan Cavaleiro on a season's loan. Cavaleiro was a target for Fulham last year and understand there is an option to buy #wwfc
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 12, 2019, 09:50:51 AMbrilliant news, hes a quality wingerQuote from: deano_632 on July 12, 2019, 09:42:19 AMNow that would be a signing!
@JPercyTelegraph
#Fulham are poised to sign
@Wolves
winger Ivan Cavaleiro on a season's loan. Cavaleiro was a target for Fulham last year and understand there is an option to buy #wwfc
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:22:58 AMQuote from: LVBPT on July 12, 2019, 09:15:21 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 11, 2019, 11:07:41 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PMQuote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
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I smell bullpoo
We normally announce on Friday dont we. Hopefully hear something tomorrow
this is why people get fed up on here. i passed on information that was given to me. what do i get out of making it up?
wont bother next time.
With all due respect, and i'm coming from a place where I appreciate you passed on what you heard, but when you do that and it doesn't happen, you can hardly be surprised that people highlight that it was wrong.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:34:06 AMQuote from: OMalleyCat on July 12, 2019, 09:31:05 AM
Cavaleiro apparently coming in on loan.
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Loan to buy hopefully. Whats the source?
Quote from: jelmo on July 12, 2019, 10:28:41 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 09:22:58 AMQuote from: LVBPT on July 12, 2019, 09:15:21 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 11, 2019, 11:07:41 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 11, 2019, 10:54:24 PMQuote from: Jimsbeerbelly on July 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 11, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
Ive just been told that there is a signing being announced tonight. no name guarenteed but its likely Cabral.
would make sense as were in Portugal at the moment. watch this space
At what point do you class 'tonight' 11:59pm? 079.gif
I smell bullpoo
We normally announce on Friday dont we. Hopefully hear something tomorrow
this is why people get fed up on here. i passed on information that was given to me. what do i get out of making it up?
wont bother next time.
With all due respect, and i'm coming from a place where I appreciate you passed on what you heard, but when you do that and it doesn't happen, you can hardly be surprised that people highlight that it was wrong.
Im of a different opinion.... I think that he passed on his info in good faith (knowing that in football not everything runs smoothly or on time). So if the announcement got delayed or the deal fell through then why bother giving him grief for it? I believe that his source was legit and he was kind enough to give us some juicy gossip...
In the past I once passed on some similar info that I got from a friend of mine who was mates with a doc that worked for ffc a few years ago.... Got some info about a couple of medicals that I passed on to this thread. Then I got a kicking because the deals were never completed. I had no reason to doubt the info as I have met the doc in question a couple of times after games. Also, I had no reason to make it up myself as I'm not a weirdo (well.... not a total weirdo anyway!). So in conclusion.... Thanks for passing on the tidbit! Sorry for the rambling message!
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 12, 2019, 10:51:48 AM
From Anton Toloui (Reporter and News Editor - Sky Sports News) -
"Ivan Cavaleiro to have a medical at #FFC today ahead of a season-long loan from #WWFC. The deal includes an option to buy. The winger had been part of Wolves' Asian Trophy squad but now won't be part of the team traveling to China tomorrow."
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
Why has he dropped out of favour at Wolves,I thought he was one of their mainstays.
Quote from: deano_632 on July 12, 2019, 10:57:37 AM
From the sun - so take with a pinch of salt....
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9492342/fulham-knockaert-transfer-15m-premier-league/
Quote from: jelmo on July 12, 2019, 10:57:28 AMlooking at Facebook groups and wolves forums they are not happy hes leavingQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
Why has he dropped out of favour at Wolves,I thought he was one of their mainstays.
Sounds like he only started 6 games last season. Guess that have better options now. But he seems to flourish in the championship so all good for us!
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 12, 2019, 11:14:05 AMQuote from: jelmo on July 12, 2019, 10:57:28 AMlooking at Facebook groups and wolves forums they are not happy hes leavingQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
Why has he dropped out of favour at Wolves,I thought he was one of their mainstays.
Sounds like he only started 6 games last season. Guess that have better options now. But he seems to flourish in the championship so all good for us!
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:17:59 AM
Presuming the Knockaert rumours are true (i highly doubt they are) but does Ivan and Knockaert play on the same wing?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
Why has he dropped out of favour at Wolves,I thought he was one of their mainstays.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 12, 2019, 11:21:18 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:17:59 AM
Presuming the Knockaert rumours are true (i highly doubt they are) but does Ivan and Knockaert play on the same wing?
Knockaert generally plays RW, Cavaleiro capable on both sides.
Quote from: Tabby on July 12, 2019, 12:18:57 PM
Huh, Knockaert is only 27, had gotten it into my head that he was in his early thirties for some reason.
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 12:37:20 PM
Villa just signed Brazil u23 captain from Man City, full back in the pipe line.
On a side note Crouchie retires, good luck to him always found him a thoroughly likeable man with a good sense of humour
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 12, 2019, 11:59:01 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 12, 2019, 11:21:18 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:17:59 AM
Presuming the Knockaert rumours are true (i highly doubt they are) but does Ivan and Knockaert play on the same wing?
Knockaert generally plays RW, Cavaleiro capable on both sides.
This will Be the money from selling Ryan
And I think I'd rather have these 2 for Sess IF he has to go. Maybe there's even room to sign a proper defender as well.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 12, 2019, 01:16:14 PM
Apparently we're leading the pack for Mo Besic from Everton for £5m.
Don't know that much about him but seems reasonable?
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 12, 2019, 01:16:14 PM
Apparently we're leading the pack for Mo Besic from Everton for £5m.
Don't know that much about him but seems reasonable?
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Quote from: howitis on July 12, 2019, 01:52:45 PMShame he's going for about closer to £25 mill
I see Everton are prepared to listen to offers for Lookman. That is one player I would love to see in a Fulham shirt and would be excellent value even at circa 15/20m.
Quote from: Danitar on July 12, 2019, 01:54:43 PMQuote from: howitis on July 12, 2019, 01:52:45 PMShame he's going for about closer to £25 mill
I see Everton are prepared to listen to offers for Lookman. That is one player I would love to see in a Fulham shirt and would be excellent value even at circa 15/20m.
Quote from: Nero on July 12, 2019, 02:03:16 PMLookman likely to go back to Germany sadlyQuote from: Danitar on July 12, 2019, 01:54:43 PMQuote from: howitis on July 12, 2019, 01:52:45 PMShame he's going for about closer to £25 mill
I see Everton are prepared to listen to offers for Lookman. That is one player I would love to see in a Fulham shirt and would be excellent value even at circa 15/20m.
I can see a season long loan and brought when we get promoted or a straight for Sess
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 12, 2019, 11:59:01 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 12, 2019, 11:21:18 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 12, 2019, 11:17:59 AM
Presuming the Knockaert rumours are true (i highly doubt they are) but does Ivan and Knockaert play on the same wing?
Knockaert generally plays RW, Cavaleiro capable on both sides.
This will Be the money from selling Ryan
Quote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PMQuote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.
Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon, Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.
Quote from: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PMQuote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.
Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon, Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.
Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PMQuote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.
Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon, Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.
Quote from: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PMQuote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.
Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon, Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.
Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 12, 2019, 04:26:59 PMQuote from: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PMQuote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.
Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon, Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.
Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.
I just don't see how Anguissa will fit in if we play 4-2-3-1. He won't play in the front 3 of midfield and I cant see him dislodging StefJo as the box to box midfielder and KMac sits in front of the defence allowing others to press forward. We tried him in the KMac role last season and it didn't work. There's undoubted talent there but I don't think he suited to Fulham personally.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 12, 2019, 04:26:59 PMDidn't we play Anguissa in a holding role? Anyway for his national team he has played both the holding and box to box roll, so he, Stef Jo and Kmac may make a good three some to work with for the two positions. Basic i am ambivalent about, never really seemed that good to meQuote from: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PMQuote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.
Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon, Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.
Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.
I just don't see how Anguissa will fit in if we play 4-2-3-1. He won't play in the front 3 of midfield and I cant see him dislodging StefJo as the box to box midfielder and KMac sits in front of the defence allowing others to press forward. We tried him in the KMac role last season and it didn't work. There's undoubted talent there but I don't think he suited to Fulham personally.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 12, 2019, 04:57:54 PM
got to remember, the year we came up, we were VERY lucky with injuries and suspensions that it didnt dislodge the midfield trio of KMac, StefJo and TC. can we be that lucky again, maybe. does having Anguissa in the mix hurt? absolutely not. i for one like him and see there is the talent there that others see and absolutley agree, that at this level, he should be an absolute assett
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 12, 2019, 04:26:59 PMQuote from: grandad on July 12, 2019, 03:56:37 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 03:43:43 PMQuote from: bobby01 on July 12, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Odd isn't it, no rumours for days then three on the same day.
Says to me that deals are in place for players to leave, expect Sessegnon, Anguissa, Serri and Cisse gone shortly, and I honestly don't think we are going to miss any of them.
Anguissa is going to be a key player for us. We may not receive any offers for Sess or Seri. Cisse may be offloaded or loaned out.
I just don't see how Anguissa will fit in if we play 4-2-3-1. He won't play in the front 3 of midfield and I cant see him dislodging StefJo as the box to box midfielder and KMac sits in front of the defence allowing others to press forward. We tried him in the KMac role last season and it didn't work. There's undoubted talent there but I don't think he suited to Fulham personally.
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
If we sign Besic, Anguissa will be gone.
Quote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
If we sign Besic, Anguissa will be gone.
Quote from: grandad on July 13, 2019, 08:51:19 AM
Newcastle owner Mike Ashley could end up having to pay more to make Steve Bruce his new manager than he offered Rafael Benitez to stay.
You can't make this up. LOL
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2019, 11:29:24 AM
Seems to have gone a bit quiet on the CB front. Would really like Hector, personally haven't seen that much of him ,liked what I did though & after talking to a Wednesday fan about him I reckon he would be a great signing.
London lad ,6ft 4" good in the air with a very decent turn of pace. Think he plays on the right so could compliment any of the other centre halves we've got
Quote from: @jolslover on July 13, 2019, 10:45:50 AM
Cavaleiro, Besic, Knockaert .. now were talking. All 3 would be great signings
Quote from: bobby01 on July 13, 2019, 01:35:42 PM
Rangers sign Felip Helander, 26 year old Swedish international centre back for 3.5 mill. So they are out there, he has been playing for Bologna.
Quote from: Riversider on July 13, 2019, 01:48:49 PMQuote from: bobby01 on July 13, 2019, 01:35:42 PM
Rangers sign Felip Helander, 26 year old Swedish international centre back for 3.5 mill. So they are out there, he has been playing for Bologna.
On paper that is an unbelievable bit of business, his c.v reads really well.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 12, 2019, 05:54:10 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 12, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
If we sign Besic, Anguissa will be gone.
LOL..i'd rather sell Stefjo and Kmac to West Brom than get rid of Anguissa. (if Besic rumor is true)
Quote from: Asotosyios on July 13, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
I would like us to try to bring Piazon back. He is not in Lampard's plans and only has a year left on his contract, so he wouldn't cost crazy money (perhaps £2-2,5m?).
Quote from: bobby01 on July 13, 2019, 01:35:42 PM
Rangers sign Felip Helander, 26 year old Swedish international centre back for 3.5 mill. So they are out there, he has been playing for Bologna.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 13, 2019, 03:55:09 PMJust seen it too. Hallelujah!!!
Cavaliero has signed, TK and FFC tweeted it
Quote from: sarnian on July 13, 2019, 02:32:07 PMNo we need better than Piazon and with Cav. Mitro and Kamara available he would spend most of the season bench warming.Quote from: Asotosyios on July 13, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
I would like us to try to bring Piazon back. He is not in Lampard's plans and only has a year left on his contract, so he wouldn't cost crazy money (perhaps £2-2,5m?).
075.gif Just not good enough if we have any real ambition.
Quote from: smallfulhamman on July 13, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
So happy to hear that Ivan's joined.
If we manage besic and another CB i'd be over the moon.
On the note of CBs does anyone know if there was a reason we didn't get Kalas back? I felt he was our best player at the back during the championship?
Quote from: smallfulhamman on July 13, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
So happy to hear that Ivan's joined.
If we manage besic and another CB i'd be over the moon.
On the note of CBs does anyone know if there was a reason we didn't get Kalas back? I felt he was our best player at the back during the championship?
Quote from: filham on July 13, 2019, 05:36:27 PMQuote from: sarnian on July 13, 2019, 02:32:07 PMNo we need better than Piazon and with Cav. Mitro and Kamara available he would spend most of the season bench warming.Quote from: Asotosyios on July 13, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
I would like us to try to bring Piazon back. He is not in Lampard's plans and only has a year left on his contract, so he wouldn't cost crazy money (perhaps £2-2,5m?).
075.gif Just not good enough if we have any real ambition.
Quote from: filham on July 13, 2019, 05:36:27 PMEven better if we can replace Kamara with KnockhaertQuote from: sarnian on July 13, 2019, 02:32:07 PMNo we need better than Piazon and with Cav. Mitro and Kamara available he would spend most of the season bench warming.Quote from: Asotosyios on July 13, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
I would like us to try to bring Piazon back. He is not in Lampard's plans and only has a year left on his contract, so he wouldn't cost crazy money (perhaps £2-2,5m?).
075.gif Just not good enough if we have any real ambition.
Quote from: sarnian on July 13, 2019, 08:10:49 PM
I see Hector of Chelsea could not get in their playing 22 today. Could we be in for him.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 14, 2019, 11:51:46 AM
Looks like Seri could be going to Galatasaray
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 14, 2019, 12:14:26 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 14, 2019, 11:51:46 AM
Looks like Seri could be going to Galatasaray
He won't (or at least not until much later on in the window when moves to Serie A and Ligue 1 are completely off the table). Said the same thing when the Mitrovic/Fenerbahce links came out. The big three teams in Turkey (Galatasaray, Fenerbahce, Besiktas) are genuinely linked with 100 players a summer and end up signing two of them, who are almost definitely the cheapest of the options available.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 14, 2019, 01:19:31 PM
Sky reporting we're looking at Reece Oxford on a season long loan.
https://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 14, 2019, 11:51:46 AMApparently AC, Napoli and Roma interested as well
Looks like Seri could be going to Galatasaray
Quote from: Tabby on July 14, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Steven Sess has been featured a lot on the site recently, might be Spurs wanting him that is holding up Ryan's transfer as Spurs reportedly want both.
Think this might be his season.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 14, 2019, 12:14:26 PMThis is important to note, the Turkish media are notoriously unreliable when it comes to football newsQuote from: DevonFFC on July 14, 2019, 11:51:46 AM
Looks like Seri could be going to Galatasaray
He won't (or at least not until much later on in the window when moves to Serie A and Ligue 1 are completely off the table). Said the same thing when the Mitrovic/Fenerbahce links came out. The big three teams in Turkey (Galatasaray, Fenerbahce, Besiktas) are genuinely linked with 100 players a summer and end up signing two of them, who are almost definitely the cheapest of the options available.
Quote from: Tabby on July 14, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Steven Sess has been featured a lot on the site recently, might be Spurs wanting him that is holding up Ryan's transfer as Spurs reportedly want both.
Think this might be his season.
Quote from: twang on July 15, 2019, 01:23:17 PM
We're asking for £22m for Seri.
https://sempremilan.com/agent-of-seri-confirms-ac-milan-interest-reveals-price-tag
Quote from: twang on July 15, 2019, 01:23:17 PM
We're asking for £22m for Seri.
https://sempremilan.com/agent-of-seri-confirms-ac-milan-interest-reveals-price-tag
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 15, 2019, 01:59:27 PMQuote from: twang on July 15, 2019, 01:23:17 PM
We're asking for £22m for Seri.
https://sempremilan.com/agent-of-seri-confirms-ac-milan-interest-reveals-price-tag
Jean Michaël Seri is AC Milan's latest idea to reinforce the midfield. In fact, the Ivorian midfielder has offered himself to the Rossoneri recently, as he wants to leave Championship side Fulham.
According to Sky Italia, the Frenchman remains the alternative to Jordan Veretout, though Milan have failed to reach an agreement with Fiorentina despite several meetings. Therefore, the track leading to Seri seems more and more likely.
In an interview with calciomercato.com, the player's agent Franklin Mala confirmed the Rossoneri's interest, while also revealing the Ivorian's price tag.
"We know that the media is talking a lot about Milan for Seri. At the moment, I can only say that we will see if there will be any developments, we are waiting. We will consider the opportunity if it arises.
"If Seri spoke to Kessie during international duty? I honestly don't know, but we have so many opportunities and we will choose the best for the player. Roma? Many clubs, I can't add anything else. The price tag? £22m (€24.5m)," he concluded.
Quote from: Tabby on July 15, 2019, 02:20:28 PM
I'm not entirely sure about Knockaert, he was brilliant when Brighton went up, but he is very uneven. Think he is running the risk of becoming another Taarabt.
Quote from: river phoenix on July 15, 2019, 05:12:45 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 15, 2019, 02:20:28 PM
I'm not entirely sure about Knockaert, he was brilliant when Brighton went up, but he is very uneven. Think he is running the risk of becoming another Taarabt.
Taarabt only had one really good season in his career (when QPR first went up, with Warnock)... Knockaert, on the other side, was equally good at Leicester, I wanted us to sign him before he left them for Standard Liege and later on when Brighton signed him... Him, Mitro and Cavaleiro would be a lethal trio in the Champ.
Quote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 15, 2019, 08:42:32 PMI wouldn't pay that for him
They want £8 million and we won't pay!
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 15, 2019, 08:48:32 PMQuote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 15, 2019, 08:42:32 PMI wouldn't pay that for him
They want £8 million and we won't pay!
Quote from: mkras99 on July 15, 2019, 08:37:27 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11763862/fulham-in-talks-to-sign-callum-odowda-from-bristol-city
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 15, 2019, 08:42:32 PMAgree, we don't need to be held to ransom. Proven? isn't it just one good season? I may have missed something though I admit that.
They want £8 million and we won't pay!
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 15, 2019, 09:14:34 PMQuote from: mkras99 on July 15, 2019, 08:37:27 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11763862/fulham-in-talks-to-sign-callum-odowda-from-bristol-city
Liking the fact that more and more links are coming out each day
Quote from: JimOG on July 15, 2019, 09:16:06 PM
Wouldn't pay anything like that. We need to ask simple questions now - 'Is Callum Premiership material"? Answer - not a hope. I've watched him a lot playing for Ireland and just wouldn't buy him. We really need to raise our sights - these are journeymen (albeit skilful)
Quote from: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PM
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago
Quote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PMI watched him a fair bit at Oxford before he went to Bristol City. For reasons I could never fathom, they used him mostly as a sub and he made a huge difference whenever he came on. Got decent pace, a great engine, a real grafter and chipped in with plenty of goals for a regular sub. The right sort of player to be going after imho and could be a cracking addition if used properly.
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 15, 2019, 09:53:22 PMQuote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PMI watched him a fair bit at Oxford before he went to Bristol City. For reasons I could never fathom, they used him mostly as a sub and he made a huge difference whenever he came on. Got decent pace, a great engine, a real grafter and chipped in with plenty of goals for a regular sub. The right sort of player to be going after imho and could be a cracking addition if used properly.
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
Quote from: brightster on July 15, 2019, 10:03:45 PM
Fabian Delph signs 3-year deal at #efc, tells evertontv: "Every time I've played against Everton, whether home or away, straight away the first thing that comes to mind when you see the fans is passion. Hopefully we can push together, fans and players, to do something special" (From Henry Winter on Twitter), this could open the window for our target Besic From there?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 15, 2019, 10:16:30 PMQuote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 15, 2019, 09:53:22 PMQuote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PMI watched him a fair bit at Oxford before he went to Bristol City. For reasons I could never fathom, they used him mostly as a sub and he made a huge difference whenever he came on. Got decent pace, a great engine, a real grafter and chipped in with plenty of goals for a regular sub. The right sort of player to be going after imho and could be a cracking addition if used properly.
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
From speaking to a few Bristol City fans it sounds like he thinks he's much better than he is. They also said and I quote
"If you give us 8m for him your owner/chairman needs checking".
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 15, 2019, 10:16:30 PMWell, he's only a Kidlington lad. Maybe the bright lights of Bristol have turned his head.Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 15, 2019, 09:53:22 PMQuote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PMI watched him a fair bit at Oxford before he went to Bristol City. For reasons I could never fathom, they used him mostly as a sub and he made a huge difference whenever he came on. Got decent pace, a great engine, a real grafter and chipped in with plenty of goals for a regular sub. The right sort of player to be going after imho and could be a cracking addition if used properly.
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
From speaking to a few Bristol City fans it sounds like he thinks he's much better than he is. They also said and I quote
"If you give us 8m for him your owner/chairman needs checking".
Quote from: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PMSomething like that but short about 500k of asking price.... that would have been a shrewd investment.
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago
Quote from: David I on July 16, 2019, 12:03:32 AMQuote from: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PMSomething like that but short about 500k of asking price.... that would have been a shrewd investment.
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago
Quote from: Statto on July 16, 2019, 12:39:10 AMQuote from: David I on July 16, 2019, 12:03:32 AMQuote from: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PMSomething like that but short about 500k of asking price.... that would have been a shrewd investment.
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago
Mackintosh's typical negotiation technique...
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league
Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 06:01:00 AM
Talksh++ saying Swansea want Mawson back.
That want happen.
Quote from: Camel Club on July 15, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News also reporting that we are looking at Bristol City's Callum O'Dowda. Another left sided midfielder/winger?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AMQuote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league
Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.
Quote from: filham on July 16, 2019, 10:26:36 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AMQuote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league
Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.
Well we have six players for our front three, Cave/Kebano, Mitro/Fonte, and Kamara/Ayite.
That is looking pretty good to me, the weakness as is if Mitro is missing as Fonte is unlikely to be up to the task but Kamara and Ayite can do a job in that position.
Be an improvement if we could move Fonte on and get a good substitute striker like Peter Crouch for instance.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 10:35:12 AMQuote from: filham on July 16, 2019, 10:26:36 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AMQuote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league
Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.
Well we have six players for our front three, Cave/Kebano, Mitro/Fonte, and Kamara/Ayite.
That is looking pretty good to me, the weakness as is if Mitro is missing as Fonte is unlikely to be up to the task but Kamara and Ayite can do a job in that position.
Be an improvement if we could move Fonte on and get a good substitute striker like Peter Crouch for instance.
I'm of the opinion that Fonte was largely poor since joining us but I still think there's a technically gifted player there and maybe in a better team with pace around him, we could get more from him. I think he could be a bit of a luxury backup striker that most teams at this level won't have. On top of that we also have Taylor Crossdale whose an unknown quantity. Quick, strong and has scored goals at levels played in so could also be an unknown quality.
I do think we need more pace on wings (full backs mianly) still but we really aren't far off being quite a special team for this division.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 16, 2019, 01:07:59 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 10:35:12 AMQuote from: filham on July 16, 2019, 10:26:36 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AMQuote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league
Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.
Well we have six players for our front three, Cave/Kebano, Mitro/Fonte, and Kamara/Ayite.
That is looking pretty good to me, the weakness as is if Mitro is missing as Fonte is unlikely to be up to the task but Kamara and Ayite can do a job in that position.
Be an improvement if we could move Fonte on and get a good substitute striker like Peter Crouch for instance.
I'm of the opinion that Fonte was largely poor since joining us but I still think there's a technically gifted player there and maybe in a better team with pace around him, we could get more from him. I think he could be a bit of a luxury backup striker that most teams at this level won't have. On top of that we also have Taylor Crossdale whose an unknown quantity. Quick, strong and has scored goals at levels played in so could also be an unknown quality.
I do think we need more pace on wings (full backs mianly) still but we really aren't far off being quite a special team for this division.
I don't see Fonte as a forward or a winger, more like a Gera playing just behind the forward or in Cairney's current position. Think he may be a useful back up to Cairney moving forward but certainly not a starter.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 16, 2019, 04:31:32 PM
Seri linked to a loan deal at Galatasaray in Turkey. Shame I wanted money for him now. Option to buy
Quote from: jelmo on July 16, 2019, 05:02:01 PMSeri's agent said he was in Italy talking to clubs, they were perm deals from what i read. The club should not loan him, sells him or keep himQuote from: Lighthouse on July 16, 2019, 04:31:32 PM
Seri linked to a loan deal at Galatasaray in Turkey. Shame I wanted money for him now. Option to buy
urgh. This would be a bit pointless from our perspective. We need some transfer cash to make our own signings.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 10:35:12 AMQuote from: filham on July 16, 2019, 10:26:36 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AMQuote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league
Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.
Well we have six players for our front three, Cave/Kebano, Mitro/Fonte, and Kamara/Ayite.
That is looking pretty good to me, the weakness as is if Mitro is missing as Fonte is unlikely to be up to the task but Kamara and Ayite can do a job in that position.
Be an improvement if we could move Fonte on and get a good substitute striker like Peter Crouch for instance.
I'm of the opinion that Fonte was largely poor since joining us but I still think there's a technically gifted player there and maybe in a better team with pace around him, we could get more from him. I think he could be a bit of a luxury backup striker that most teams at this level won't have. On top of that we also have Taylor Crossdale whose an unknown quantity. Quick, strong and has scored goals at levels played in so could also be an unknown quality.
I do think we need more pace on wings (full backs mianly) still but we really aren't far off being quite a special team for this division.
Quote from: Riversider on July 16, 2019, 01:44:50 PM
Spurs being linked with Gareth Bale , if this happens where does it leave Ryan Sessegnon ?
Quote from: Statto on July 16, 2019, 12:39:10 AMQuote from: David I on July 16, 2019, 12:03:32 AMQuote from: Dodgin on July 15, 2019, 09:41:43 PMSomething like that but short about 500k of asking price.... that would have been a shrewd investment.
Didn't we offer £3 Million for Dunk a few years ago
Mackintosh's typical negotiation technique...
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 05:17:56 PMHe is leaving Leicester as he wants first team football, would he get that here? Otherwise not a bad shout if we can afford them wages
Wonder how much of a stumbling block Okasaki wages would be....
Quote from: junior white on July 16, 2019, 06:42:03 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 05:17:56 PMHe is leaving Leicester as he wants first team football, would he get that here? Otherwise not a bad shout if we can afford them wages
Wonder how much of a stumbling block Okasaki wages would be....
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 16, 2019, 07:32:38 PMQuote from: junior white on July 16, 2019, 06:42:03 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 16, 2019, 05:17:56 PMHe is leaving Leicester as he wants first team football, would he get that here? Otherwise not a bad shout if we can afford them wages
Wonder how much of a stumbling block Okasaki wages would be....
Hes 33, cant see TK signing that one off
Quote from: Tabby on July 16, 2019, 08:48:28 PM
Ryan Babel wasn't exactly a spring chicken when signed.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AM:plus one:Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league
Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 16, 2019, 09:53:07 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2019, 05:51:27 AM:plus one:Quote from: @jolslover on July 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
O'Dowda and Knockaert aren't on the same level - Knockaerts prem output is much better than O'Dowdas championship output and that's in a much tougher league
Really?
Did you watch any Championship games last season?
I'd have O'Dowda any day before the Brighton lad.
This boys a good player grafter,and has something we lack,he can cross a ball.
If we can get him for around 6mill,he will be much better value imo.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.
Clearly he will leave
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.
Clearly he will leave
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AMDon't disagree, for me it should be a permanent move or we keep himQuote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.
Clearly he will leave
At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are keeping Cisse at 13k per week , Kebano at 13k per week and McDonald at 22k per week, surely Seri at 35k is good value.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AMQuote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.
Clearly he will leave
At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are keeping Cisse at 13k per week , Kebano at 13k per week and McDonald at 22k per week, surely Seri at 35k is good value.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 08:10:32 AMI have only seen the story in the turkish press which is what I based my comment on, didn't know where yours was fromQuote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.
Clearly he will leave
This was from get French football news on twitter who seems to be pretty spot on when comes to transfers but we shall see
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AMQuote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.
Clearly he will leave
At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 17, 2019, 09:05:00 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AMQuote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.
Clearly he will leave
At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.
If you were Seri and you were as good as you thought you were, would you want to be a "a damm good bench player in the Championship"?!!
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 09:12:46 AMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on July 17, 2019, 09:05:00 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AMQuote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.
Clearly he will leave
At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.
If you were Seri and you were as good as you thought you were, would you want to be a "a damm good bench player in the Championship"?!!
If I thought I was good enough to make AC Milan XI, then i would surely think i'm good enough to come off the bench and dislodge Cairney from the Fulham's first XI.
I cannot believe what I'm hearing, Seri wants to leave Fulham as a bench player to get first team football at AC Milan. I dreamed of the day that players would leave the Fulham Squad to get First Team Football at AC Milan, but that day hasn't yet come. If that day has come has Parker has made a huge mistake not placing Seri ahead of Cairney.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 09:12:46 AMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on July 17, 2019, 09:05:00 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AMQuote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.
Clearly he will leave
At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.
If you were Seri and you were as good as you thought you were, would you want to be a "a damm good bench player in the Championship"?!!
If I thought I was good enough to make AC Milan XI, then i would surely think i'm good enough to come off the bench and dislodge Cairney from the Fulham's first XI.
I cannot believe what I'm hearing, Seri wants to leave Fulham as a bench player to get first team football at AC Milan. I dreamed of the day that players would leave the Fulham Squad to get First Team Football at AC Milan, but that day hasn't yet come. If that day has come has Parker has made a huge mistake not placing Seri ahead of Cairney, as there is no way Cairney would make AC Milan First XI.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 17, 2019, 09:25:45 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 09:12:46 AMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on July 17, 2019, 09:05:00 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 08:52:50 AMQuote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 17, 2019, 07:50:54 AMThat is being reported in the Turkish press, the same paper that said AK was staying at his club on loan for another season. Like here the Turkish press can be a little off at times, not saying it won't happen but has to be taken with a pinch of salt at times.
Galatasaray will sign Jean Michaël Seri on loan from Fulham with an option to
Italian press are reporting we are in discussions with AC Milan over Seri as well.
Clearly he will leave
At the prices AC Milan are offering to pay to Fulham (i.e. 35k per week) for Seri, it would be worth keeping Seri as Cairney's backup. Fulham would be crazy to sell Seri, he is a damn good bench player in the championship. We are (according to football manager) keeping Cisse at 13k/wk , Kebano at 13k/wk, McDonald at 22k/wk and Ream at 27k/wk, surely Seri at 35k per week is good value. We need Seri as cover Cairney.
If you were Seri and you were as good as you thought you were, would you want to be a "a damm good bench player in the Championship"?!!
If I thought I was good enough to make AC Milan XI, then i would surely think i'm good enough to come off the bench and dislodge Cairney from the Fulham's first XI.
I cannot believe what I'm hearing, Seri wants to leave Fulham as a bench player to get first team football at AC Milan. I dreamed of the day that players would leave the Fulham Squad to get First Team Football at AC Milan, but that day hasn't yet come. If that day has come has Parker has made a huge mistake not placing Seri ahead of Cairney.
He's a better player than Cairney. When he fancied it he was a superb player, he just clearly doesn't want to be here. It's a real shame. I just hope we can get our money back and move on.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 17, 2019, 10:14:18 AM
If Seri really wants to leave he can agree to slash his salary to a mear £10k per week for the right club. If Seri's wages are 500k per year, I think then many clubs would be offerring a transfer fee that would interest Fulham in the 15-25 million range. Its all a question of how bad Seri wants to leave, will he sacfrice £10m of his own money to leave.
A deal where AC Milan pays Fulham £1.5 million and Fulham pays Seri £2.5 million is a rip off. AC Milan couldn't afford his "wages and transfer fee" last year, they aren't getting him at Fulham's expense this year.
Frankly, Seri can miss preseason with us, trialing everywhere else to get a transfer until the 2nd September when all transfer windows close. After that he has to return to training at Fulham for his £2.5m per year and then decide if he wants to sulk or earn his spot in the matchday 18. Once he realises his short-term future is at Fulham (and he'll realise in September) he will apply himself at trying to grap KMac, Johasen or Cairney spot in the XI weeks later.
Quote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 02:01:05 PM
West Brom agree 8 million fee with Cardiff for Zohore
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 02:06:55 PMYepQuote from: junior white on July 17, 2019, 02:01:05 PM
West Brom agree 8 million fee with Cardiff for Zohore
Remember when Zohore was the hottest player in the Championship two years back? Amazing how quickly his stock has fallen.
Quote from: mkras99 on July 17, 2019, 02:49:30 PM
Rose will be reintegrated into the squad if he cannot find a new club this summer but Spurs remain favourites to sign Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon, who can play left-back. The deal is being delayed by the Cottagers' desire for a Tottenham player in part-exchange for the teenager.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham/tottenham-unlikely-to-sign-kieran-trippier-replacement-as-20m-departure-sparks-internal-battle-a4191941.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1563358458
Quote from: mkras99 on July 17, 2019, 02:49:30 PMEnglish media can fabricate with the best of them.
Rose will be reintegrated into the squad if he cannot find a new club this summer but Spurs remain favourites to sign Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon, who can play left-back. The deal is being delayed by the Cottagers' desire for a Tottenham player in part-exchange for the teenager.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham/tottenham-unlikely-to-sign-kieran-trippier-replacement-as-20m-departure-sparks-internal-battle-a4191941.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1563358458
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 17, 2019, 03:03:01 PMQuote from: mkras99 on July 17, 2019, 02:49:30 PMEnglish media can fabricate with the best of them.
Rose will be reintegrated into the squad if he cannot find a new club this summer but Spurs remain favourites to sign Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon, who can play left-back. The deal is being delayed by the Cottagers' desire for a Tottenham player in part-exchange for the teenager.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham/tottenham-unlikely-to-sign-kieran-trippier-replacement-as-20m-departure-sparks-internal-battle-a4191941.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1563358458
If Seri is as good as everyone says ....
* Why isn't he already gone?
* Why didn't Scott play him ahead of Cairney or Anguissa?
* Why doesn't he start for his national team?
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Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PMI hope that Anguissa stays as he will be a key player for us. He had a few MOTM awards in the AFCON tournament.
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 04:37:30 PMYes,I agree that Anguissa looks as if he has some of the qualities of a talented player although Parker has to do an amount of work on him to ensure reliability. The big questions are can we afford him and will he want to play in the championship. May be easier to ship him out and buy the ready made product we can afford.Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PMI hope that Anguissa stays as he will be a key player for us. He had a few MOTM awards in the AFCON tournament.
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 04:52:17 PMQuote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 04:37:30 PMYes,I agree that Anguissa looks as if he has some of the qualities of a talented player although Parker has to do an amount of work on him to ensure reliability. The big questions are can we afford him and will he want to play in the championship. May be easier to ship him out and buy the ready made product we can afford.Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PMI hope that Anguissa stays as he will be a key player for us. He had a few MOTM awards in the AFCON tournament.
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PMwhy anguissa, he prob stay
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
So, it looks as if someone at the Cottage has the task of shifting Sess., Seri and possibly Anguissa within the next couple of weeks. A good few million involved here.
Does incoming transfers depend on the success of this task.
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PMIs there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Quote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PMGalatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PMIs there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PMQuote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PMGalatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PMIs there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
It is a loan.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PMQuote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PMGalatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PMIs there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
It is a loan.
Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
In conclusion, you are looking at a far too limited period of time to make a reasonable assessment, coupled with seemingly lacking the understanding of the (at least some times) complex nature of football transfers. In my opinion.
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PMwages covered and a loan fee on top I would assume.Better that than selling him for a lot less than what we paid for him as his get amortized over the length of his contract.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PMQuote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PMGalatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PMIs there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
It is a loan.
Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.
If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on July 17, 2019, 06:31:48 PMFeeQuote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PMwages covered and a loan fee on top I would assume.Better that than selling him for a lot less than what we paid for him as his get amortized over the length of his contract.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PMQuote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PMGalatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PMIs there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
It is a loan.
Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.
If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PMQuote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PMGalatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PMIs there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
It is a loan.
Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.
If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PMQuote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PMGalatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PMIs there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
It is a loan.
Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.
If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.
Quote from: grandad on July 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 17, 2019, 06:14:49 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 06:09:12 PMQuote from: filham on July 17, 2019, 06:06:36 PMGalatasaray are publically traded, so they have to update on things like this. When it gets to this stage it is almost always a done deal.Quote from: Tabby on July 17, 2019, 05:42:37 PMIs there money on the table or is it just chat.
Galatasaray posting that they're negotiating for Seri on their official channels. Should probably be done soon.
It is a loan.
Already done on Wiki...Galatasary player Loan.
If it´s a loan I would have kept him as a cover. A loan does us no favours.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 17, 2019, 06:25:20 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
In conclusion, you are looking at a far too limited period of time to make a reasonable assessment, coupled with seemingly lacking the understanding of the (at least some times) complex nature of football transfers. In my opinion.
Oh...I agree with your assessment of my understanding of the complex nature of football transfers 100%. I'm coming in late to football (European).
We'll see how it shakes out over the next 3 weeks to see if my ignorant evaluation of what I see pans out.
Quote from: Riversider on July 17, 2019, 07:33:59 PM
The loan fee is a paltry £1.7 million with an option to buy at £18 million.
Quote from: Riversider on July 17, 2019, 07:33:59 PMI saw 2m, but that may have been in Euros. It sounds like they're covering his full wages though, which is really the point of loaning him out.
The loan fee is a paltry £1.7 million with an option to buy at £18 million.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 07:40:16 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 17, 2019, 07:33:59 PM
The loan fee is a paltry £1.7 million with an option to buy at £18 million.
Sounds fairly good to get his wages of our books for a season, with a combined transfer fee of almost £20 million if the option is exercised. This would mean we basically got back what we paid (assuming we paid something a bit north of £20 million, and also taking into account he has already played one year with us).
Good business if he didn't want to be here or if we didn't want him to be here.
Quote from: Nero on July 17, 2019, 08:32:57 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 17, 2019, 07:40:16 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 17, 2019, 07:33:59 PM
The loan fee is a paltry £1.7 million with an option to buy at £18 million.
Sounds fairly good to get his wages of our books for a season, with a combined transfer fee of almost £20 million if the option is exercised. This would mean we basically got back what we paid (assuming we paid something a bit north of £20 million, and also taking into account he has already played one year with us).
Good business if he didn't want to be here or if we didn't want him to be here.
Doubt they will every sign him permanently their highest transfer fee over the last few years is about 12m
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 18, 2019, 07:11:47 AMIf correct then it wont be Wantama or Jansen and both are mega high wage earners. Others are all youngsters i think although never heard of Nkoulou
It's been mentioned with Sessegnon that we're after a player in Spurs' deal.
Players reportedly available are Cameron Carter-Vickers, Wanyama, Edwards, Onomah, Nkoulou and Janssen.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM
If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.
Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.
We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.
Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.
The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM
If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.
Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.
We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.
Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.
The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.
What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.
This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 09:01:02 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
I think the article did not mention the wages because it is most likely always assumed that wages are included. Only reason to mention it is if wages are being retained in some form by the parent club. So no, this is not at all bad assuming that he was not seen as a starter for us. Much better than selling at a reduced rate.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AMThe issue I have with a loan is that we seem to have a past history of contributing to the wages of high earners we loan out, Ruiz and Mitroglu spring to mind, of course only news paper speculation but guess that's the same as fees etc tooQuote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM
If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.
Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.
We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.
Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.
The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.
What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.
This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?
Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
Quote from: junior white on July 18, 2019, 09:39:42 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AMThe issue I have with a loan is that we seem to have a past history of contributing to the wages of high earners we loan out, Ruiz and Mitroglu spring to mind, of course only news paper speculation but guess that's the same as fees etc tooQuote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM
If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.
Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.
We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.
Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.
The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.
What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.
This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?
Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 09:45:30 AMQuote from: junior white on July 18, 2019, 09:39:42 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AMThe issue I have with a loan is that we seem to have a past history of contributing to the wages of high earners we loan out, Ruiz and Mitroglu spring to mind, of course only news paper speculation but guess that's the same as fees etc tooQuote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM
If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.
Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.
We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.
Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.
The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.
What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.
This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?
Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
I hope we are not contributing to Seri's wages like we have done in the past.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 09:51:59 AMMost said the same about Ruiz and Mitroglu. Like him or not Mitro had a record that was great and went on loan and scored for who he went too, one of those being the club we signed him from but they didn't pay his whole wage, problem is we pay higher here and others cant afford to match them.Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 09:45:30 AMQuote from: junior white on July 18, 2019, 09:39:42 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 08:43:37 AMThe issue I have with a loan is that we seem to have a past history of contributing to the wages of high earners we loan out, Ruiz and Mitroglu spring to mind, of course only news paper speculation but guess that's the same as fees etc tooQuote from: Sting of the North on July 18, 2019, 08:24:58 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 18, 2019, 01:38:51 AM
If he plays well, they will sign him for £12m and sell him to Arsenal for £20m.
Twenty-Five games like Burnley and Brighton in the next year and they'll be selling for £30m+.
We should keep Seri, I don't care if he wants to play for Fulham. Fredericks played for us, when he wanted to leave.
Once all transfer windows are closed 2nd Septemeber and he remains signed with us, what choice does Seri.
The price they are offerring we are paying his wages and they paying McDonald's wages in return.
What on earth are you on about? Gala will surely pay Seri's wages on top of the loan fee. That is the default when loaning players. Sometimes the parent club retains some of the wages, but that is mostly when loaning players to smaller clubs down the league system. I would be extremely surprised if we pay any of Seri's wages if he is loaned to Galatasaray. Thus, they would be paying Seri's wages + the equivalent of McDonald's wages, if we go by your way of reasoning.
This has also been pointed out by many posters on here, but you seem to totally ignore that. Do you know something about this deal that no one else does?
Well, I hope you are correct. An article I saw said the cost for Gala was 1.5m, but maybe they mean 1.5m plus wages. As Seri's wages are more than double McDonald's, if we reduce the wage bill by two McDonalds and get paid one more its isn't so bad, especially if we sell Seri later.
I hope we are not contributing to Seri's wages like we have done in the past.
I dont see why we would. Where would the sense be in that? He's still highly rated so there would almost certainly be clubs willing to pay 100% of his wages
Quote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AMwhy would we want him if Middlesbrough dont thoQuote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:15:25 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AMwhy would we want him if Middlesbrough dont thoQuote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:20:10 AMQuote from: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:15:25 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AMwhy would we want him if Middlesbrough dont thoQuote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
Well, also, according to some here, Boro have a history of selling their best players and best rated RB's in the league so....... 086.gif
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AMQuote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 18, 2019, 07:11:47 AM
It's been mentioned with Sessegnon that we're after a player in Spurs' deal.
Players reportedly available are Cameron Carter-Vickers, Wanyama, Edwards, Onomah, Nkoulou and Janssen.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AMQuote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF. 064.gif
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:55:31 AMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AMQuote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF. 064.gif
Never underestimate the Aden Flint appreciation society.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 12:02:24 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:55:31 AMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AMQuote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF. 064.gif
Never underestimate the Aden Flint appreciation society.
Exactly what we need but there's others
Quote from: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
Surprised theres actually players out there that dobt mind moving to live in Cardiff lol
Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 18, 2019, 12:48:59 PMQuote from: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
Surprised theres actually players out there that dobt mind moving to live in Cardiff lol
Can't be any worse than living in Middlesbrough!!
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on July 18, 2019, 03:23:53 PMCould be worse.Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 18, 2019, 12:48:59 PMQuote from: Ruleszz on July 18, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
Surprised theres actually players out there that dobt mind moving to live in Cardiff lol
Can't be any worse than living in Middlesbrough!!
How true - my mother-in-law lives there :031:
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 12:04:06 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 12:02:24 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:55:31 AMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AMQuote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF. 064.gif
Never underestimate the Aden Flint appreciation society.
Exactly what we need but there's others
here they come!
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2019, 04:17:44 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 12:04:06 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 12:02:24 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:55:31 AMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 11:51:05 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 11:13:12 AMQuote from: Riversider on July 18, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Cardiff City are signing Aden Flint for just £6 million !
No doubt a load from this board will go into meltdown! Some wanted him for Prem last year!
Why would we have a meltdown? This isn't TIFF. 064.gif
Never underestimate the Aden Flint appreciation society.
Exactly what we need but there's others
here they come!
He's right though. If we're aiming to play slightly more direct this year and actually have a decent defence, Flint would have been perfect, and available now, in time for the half our pre-season, at a good price. I'm highly sceptical that we'll do any better.
Quote from: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business
Quote from: Wingnut on July 18, 2019, 04:42:27 PMQuote from: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business
Cardiff are going to do really well this season. Had a really good Championship standard squad already and they've added to it. Automatic promotion for anyone who finishes ahead of them.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 04:44:34 PMQuote from: Wingnut on July 18, 2019, 04:42:27 PMQuote from: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business
Cardiff are going to do really well this season. Had a really good Championship standard squad already and they've added to it. Automatic promotion for anyone who finishes ahead of them.
Are Cardiff or Huddersfield more attractive than us? Not by a long shot. So why can they get CBs in and we dont seem to be able to?
Quote from: Wingnut on July 18, 2019, 04:42:27 PMQuote from: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business
Cardiff are going to do really well this season. Had a really good Championship standard squad already and they've added to it. Automatic promotion for anyone who finishes ahead of them.
Quote from: Tabby on July 18, 2019, 05:03:53 PM
I'm sure Cardiff and Huddersfield fans said similar things when we signed Mawson. I know that the Burnley boards were in meltdown mode.
I'm pretty certain that a CB is high on the list of priorities and I'd be surprised if we didn't sign anyone.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2019, 05:08:37 PMQuote from: Wingnut on July 18, 2019, 04:42:27 PMQuote from: copthornemike on July 18, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
Must say that Cardiff & Brentford's recruitment of proven centre halves, who are leadership types at reasonable prices appear to be good business
Cardiff are going to do really well this season. Had a really good Championship standard squad already and they've added to it. Automatic promotion for anyone who finishes ahead of them.
I'm not entirely convinced by Cardiff, but they won't be far off playoffs at a minimum. I don't see them challenging top 2.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!
Agree 100%, we've had since April (arguably January) to identify and sign defenders yet still nothing. Our defence has been our Achilles heel for a long time and if we don't get a CB (RB too I think) with at least a friendly match to spare then we have failed to adequately prepare once again. I'm sure the transfer market has it complexities but it seems to me that more should have been done sooner.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 06:19:26 PMBut are they better than who we have now? We are in the market to get better players not more of the same. Better CB´s are hard to find.Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!
Agree 100%, we've had since April (arguably January) to identify and sign defenders yet still nothing. Our defence has been our Achilles heel for a long time and if we don't get a CB (RB too I think) with at least a friendly match to spare then we have failed to adequately prepare once again. I'm sure the transfer market has it complexities but it seems to me that more should have been done sooner.
And how comes plenty of other clubs have managed to get defenders in? Huddersfield, Cardiff, Brentford to name a few
Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2019, 06:37:16 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 06:19:26 PMBut are they better than who we have now? We are in the market to get better players not more of the same. Better CB´s are hard to find.Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!
Agree 100%, we've had since April (arguably January) to identify and sign defenders yet still nothing. Our defence has been our Achilles heel for a long time and if we don't get a CB (RB too I think) with at least a friendly match to spare then we have failed to adequately prepare once again. I'm sure the transfer market has it complexities but it seems to me that more should have been done sooner.
And how comes plenty of other clubs have managed to get defenders in? Huddersfield, Cardiff, Brentford to name a few
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 18, 2019, 07:32:35 PMQuote from: grandad on July 18, 2019, 06:37:16 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 06:19:26 PMBut are they better than who we have now? We are in the market to get better players not more of the same. Better CB´s are hard to find.Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!
Agree 100%, we've had since April (arguably January) to identify and sign defenders yet still nothing. Our defence has been our Achilles heel for a long time and if we don't get a CB (RB too I think) with at least a friendly match to spare then we have failed to adequately prepare once again. I'm sure the transfer market has it complexities but it seems to me that more should have been done sooner.
And how comes plenty of other clubs have managed to get defenders in? Huddersfield, Cardiff, Brentford to name a few
You got 2 up the road in Hector & Tomori, both player of the year at their loan clubs
Quote from: 70sPimlico on July 18, 2019, 08:30:34 PM
I happen to think we'll have the best centre back and the best/one of the best left full backs in the league. Its only my opinion but with a full pre season and fully fit, Alfie will be a beast in this league.
I think we have a great spine. I cant get Barnsley tickets until Monday (general sale) but I think some on here may get a bit of a shock at how good we are.
Quote from: Tabby on July 18, 2019, 09:11:25 PM
Doubt Boro would let Ayala go after selling Flint.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2019, 09:14:57 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 18, 2019, 09:11:25 PM
Doubt Boro would let Ayala go after selling Flint.
From speaking to a Boro fan it seems like their plan for the season is Dael Fry + someone else. And they already have Shotton and apparently George Friend is being tried out as a LCB in Pre-Season. I think they'd sell for the right price given he's in the last year of his deal.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 19, 2019, 12:18:31 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!
If we sell R.Sess near deadline day as expected and but no one, do you really think our defense is our biggest weakness
Six Best Defenders - Christie, Odoi, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan
Six Best Midfieldes - Cisse, McDonald, Anguissa, Johasen, Cairney, De La Torre
Six Best Forwards - Calverio, Kamara, Fonte, Mitro, Atiye, Kebano
Including subs most games in 17/18 we played 4 defenders, 4 midfielders and 5 forwards
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 12:21:11 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 19, 2019, 12:18:31 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Unless we sign someone in the next 7 days (giving a minimum of 2 weeks preseason), we have again failed to strengthen the defence in time. I'm actually normally quite positive with TK especially after Mitro et al but this is really starting to p*ss me off now. Sign a flipping defender mate!!!
If we sell R.Sess near deadline day as expected and but no one, do you really think our defense is our biggest weakness
Six Best Defenders - Christie, Odoi, Mawson, Ream, MLM and Bryan
Six Best Midfieldes - Cisse, McDonald, Anguissa, Johasen, Cairney, De La Torre
Six Best Forwards - Calverio, Kamara, Fonte, Mitro, Atiye, Kebano
Including subs most games in 17/18 we played 4 defenders, 4 midfielders and 5 forwards
Of course our defence is our biggest weakness! It has been for 2 seasons!
Quote from: SG on July 19, 2019, 06:28:48 AM
Any ideas on what is happening with Cisse and Fabri. Neither are featuring but both still here, I think
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AMI would have thought a pudding basin haircut would have been cheaper than a full shave.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:06:05 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.
And her indoors is going out to spend my winnings I won on the tennis,She has promised to bring me back something nice....What? A packet of Liquorice Allsorts.😒
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:06:05 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.
And her indoors is going out to spend my winnings I won on the tennis,She has promised to bring me back something nice....What? A packet of Liquorice Allsorts.😒
Quote from: filham on July 19, 2019, 08:21:04 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 07:45:57 AMI would have thought a pudding basin haircut would have been cheaper than a full shave.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Yes something is happening today, I am going to the barbers to ask him to shave my head, because apparently a shave is cheaper than a haircut.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 09:51:50 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
haha I was going to ask the same question (but I do find Ol'Hilda rather endearing).
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AMI have a great sense of humour but Never find comments akin to there's a medical today ....somewhere or this funny. Sorry probably just me thoughQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 10:25:39 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AMI have a great sense of humour but Never find comments akin to there's a medical today ....somewhere or this funny. Sorry probably just me thoughQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 10:34:12 AMQuote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 10:25:39 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AMI have a great sense of humour but Never find comments akin to there's a medical today ....somewhere or this funny. Sorry probably just me thoughQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
Each to their own. I believe last time he was made out to have made a joke but actually something happened as predicted so I'm wondering whether this is the case again.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 11:10:00 AMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
Sharpening my pitch fork ready for ya!!!!
All jokes aside, thanks for passing on what you heard.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 11:12:09 AMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
If you don't mind me asking, is your source reliable? Like someone connected to the club or the player?
Good signing if true.
Quote from: Chutney on July 19, 2019, 11:17:53 AM
We're actually going to start the season with our current defence arent we?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 11:22:24 AMQuote from: Chutney on July 19, 2019, 11:17:53 AM
We're actually going to start the season with our current defence arent we?
I think so. If the midfield dominate games like they should and we don't put so much pressure on the defence for 80% of the game, I think we'll be ok. I'd prefer to see some signings, someone mentioned above Tomori for instance, but I wouldn't be totally annoyed if we see some youth start to pressure current starting eleven for places. I think this squad is starting to look hugely exciting for next year.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 19, 2019, 11:36:18 AMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
I will find you, and if this comes through, I will like you.
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 11:16:31 AMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 11:12:09 AMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
If you don't mind me asking, is your source reliable? Like someone connected to the club or the player?
Good signing if true.
Yep let us know.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:44:59 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 19, 2019, 11:16:31 AMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 11:12:09 AMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
If you don't mind me asking, is your source reliable? Like someone connected to the club or the player?
Good signing if true.
Yep let us know.
as tenuouse as this is, its a friend of mines friend is works for the club.
ive had loads of bits before but not really taken part in the discussions on here about them
would say that about 80% of what im told, comes to fruition (mitro signing new contract, Cavaleiro etc). the other 20% has fallen through (Konsa for instance. we were very close) thats not to say it was false, just didnt get over the line
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 10:34:12 AMCould possibly be but posted same or similar posts loads of times and nothing happened.Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 10:25:39 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2019, 09:48:08 AMI have a great sense of humour but Never find comments akin to there's a medical today ....somewhere or this funny. Sorry probably just me thoughQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Something's happening today.😝
Is this one of your jokes again or is something fulham transfer related that isn't tea room staff happening today?
Each to their own. I believe last time he was made out to have made a joke but actually something happened as predicted so I'm wondering whether this is the case again.
Quote from: spikey norman on July 19, 2019, 11:23:33 AMWhat will he do for the rest of the week?
Not transfer related but Cookie amongst the favourites for the Wednesday job
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans
There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PMAgree re some leavers. Fabric, Sess, CIsse, Possibly Fonte as well.
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans
There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PMkamara is staying tony khan stated this on the podcast
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans
There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans
There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 12:52:57 PMQuote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 12:40:24 PMAgree re some leavers. Fabric, Sess, CIsse, Possibly Fonte as well.
I can't help thinking there's still a few who are going to be leaving - Fabri, Sessegnon, Anguissa, Cisse, Kamara, Fonte, plus some of the u-23's on loans
There's space in the squad for both Knockeart and O'Dowda unless it's one in and one out.
Anguish i think will stay, Kamara For me depends on how he fits back into the squad, has seemed well in Portugal. He will have a place for me if he is all good, i still suspect that was more about Ranieiri than AK.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Same source that gave me the info I posted a while back ref Can / Knockaert text me this morning. Deal for Knockaert looking unlikely now as he has Prem interest... Brighton want to sell. List of targets who we looked at in Jan and still very much on the radar are:
- Leo Bonatini (Wolves) - Wanted a loan in Jan but couldn't shift TFM - Wolves wanting to move him on.
- Sabaly - Bordeoux RB - Willie McKay involved in this apparently and offering him to everyone under the sun, but stats & scouting team like him. Another we nearly got in Jan. MacIntosh had him flown over but didn't agree a deal with Bordeoux. I checked this out and Sky reported similar news.
- Hector - Interest is there, club weighing up CB options after missing out on Janssen & Konsa.
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.
He hasn't mentioned the O'Dowda stuff at all not sure how true this is or if indeed he knows.
If I get anything else ill post it.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 03:05:33 PM
Wow so we had at 11:04 -
"don't shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today"
Now at 14:26
Knockhaert deal is unlikely.
I don't know what to believe any more, I guess time will tell who has the best source.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 03:01:44 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 02:12:20 PM
Anguissa is an absolute nailed on to stay
You think?😉
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Same source that gave me the info I posted a while back ref Can / Knockaert text me this morning. Deal for Knockaert looking unlikely now as he has Prem interest... Brighton want to sell. List of targets who we looked at in Jan and still very much on the radar are:
- Leo Bonatini (Wolves) - Wanted a loan in Jan but couldn't shift TFM - Wolves wanting to move him on.
- Sabaly - Bordeoux RB - Willie McKay involved in this apparently and offering him to everyone under the sun, but stats & scouting team like him. Another we nearly got in Jan. MacIntosh had him flown over but didn't agree a deal with Bordeoux. I checked this out and Sky reported similar news.
- Hector - Interest is there, club weighing up CB options after missing out on Janssen & Konsa.
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.
He hasn't mentioned the O'Dowda stuff at all not sure how true this is or if indeed he knows.
If I get anything else ill post it.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Same source that gave me the info I posted a while back ref Can / Knockaert text me this morning. Deal for Knockaert looking unlikely now as he has Prem interest... Brighton want to sell. List of targets who we looked at in Jan and still very much on the radar are:
- Leo Bonatini (Wolves) - Wanted a loan in Jan but couldn't shift TFM - Wolves wanting to move him on.
- Sabaly - Bordeoux RB - Willie McKay involved in this apparently and offering him to everyone under the sun, but stats & scouting team like him. Another we nearly got in Jan. MacIntosh had him flown over but didn't agree a deal with Bordeoux. I checked this out and Sky reported similar news.
- Hector - Interest is there, club weighing up CB options after missing out on Janssen & Konsa.
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.
He hasn't mentioned the O'Dowda stuff at all not sure how true this is or if indeed he knows.
If I get anything else ill post it.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 03:49:56 PMQuote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.
That's hardly surprising IMO
Quote from: Riversider on July 19, 2019, 03:55:43 PMApparently still quite active which i found very surprising given the ongoing Sala saga.Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Same source that gave me the info I posted a while back ref Can / Knockaert text me this morning. Deal for Knockaert looking unlikely now as he has Prem interest... Brighton want to sell. List of targets who we looked at in Jan and still very much on the radar are:
- Leo Bonatini (Wolves) - Wanted a loan in Jan but couldn't shift TFM - Wolves wanting to move him on.
- Sabaly - Bordeoux RB - Willie McKay involved in this apparently and offering him to everyone under the sun, but stats & scouting team like him. Another we nearly got in Jan. MacIntosh had him flown over but didn't agree a deal with Bordeoux. I checked this out and Sky reported similar news.
- Hector - Interest is there, club weighing up CB options after missing out on Janssen & Konsa.
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.
He hasn't mentioned the O'Dowda stuff at all not sure how true this is or if indeed he knows.
If I get anything else ill post it.
I highly doubt Willie McKay is currently offering players to anyone.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 04:04:57 PMFair point actually, as the post says may not happen as prem interest which indicates we were willing to spend big to get himQuote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 03:49:56 PMQuote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.
That's hardly surprising IMO
Ok so we were prepared to fork out big money for Knockeart though??
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 04:07:28 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 04:04:57 PMFair point actually, as the post says may not happen as prem interest which indicates we were willing to spend big to get himQuote from: Two Ton Ted on July 19, 2019, 03:49:56 PMQuote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
I have been told by the same guy to quote exactly - Don't expect big money to be spent, one or two permanent signings and squad supplemented with loans.
That's hardly surprising IMO
Ok so we were prepared to fork out big money for Knockeart though??
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 03:22:20 PM
its no win on here with some people...have information, pass it on, get mocked. can only go on what i get told and as i said, 80% of what i get happens. others dont get over the line
was trying to upload the whatsapp screen shots to pass on but keep getting an error about uploading
shutting up now
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 04:06:32 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 04:26:22 PMApparently still quite active which i found very surprising given the ongoing Sala saga.Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 04:06:32 PM
I highly doubt Willie McKay is currently offering players to anyone.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 04:26:22 PM
I am still not sure what McKay has done that is worse than what most football agents do (trying to get as a lucrative deal as possible for their clients, and of course themselves). That he happened to be involved in a transfer with a very sad side story may of course make him sound worse by association but as far as I know the tragic accident was by no means his fault was it? Yet many seem to insinuate that he is some sort of evil mastermind. Maybe I missed something in the reporting.
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2019, 05:26:08 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 04:26:22 PM
I am still not sure what McKay has done that is worse than what most football agents do (trying to get as a lucrative deal as possible for their clients, and of course themselves). That he happened to be involved in a transfer with a very sad side story may of course make him sound worse by association but as far as I know the tragic accident was by no means his fault was it? Yet many seem to insinuate that he is some sort of evil mastermind. Maybe I missed something in the reporting.
He (or his son?) is alleged to have been involved in arranging the flight, and another person involved in arranging the flight (a British pilot) has been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter, a serious offence leading to two deaths. So he's far from being in the clear legally, and even further from being in the clear ethically.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 19, 2019, 05:48:49 PM
Apparently talks re Sessegnon have stalled as we are seeking a good young player to come to us as part of the deal. Right that we're playing tough with the ruthless Levy, in my opinion.
Quote from: spikey norman on July 19, 2019, 05:55:02 PM
This may or may not be true but to add to the rumours I have been told by a couple of Brighton fans that Knockhaert has put his house up for sale and looking for a property in London.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 19, 2019, 06:09:11 PMQuote from: Bracken White on July 19, 2019, 05:48:49 PM
Apparently talks re Sessegnon have stalled as we are seeking a good young player to come to us as part of the deal. Right that we're playing tough with the ruthless Levy, in my opinion.
Stalled as of...the minute he got injured?
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 19, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
I guess we know which ITK is more reliable then😂
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
Media stories earlier said he was in Austria with B&HA so hopefully he has flown back
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
Media stories earlier said he was in Austria with B&HA so hopefully he has flown back
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 19, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
I guess we know which ITK is more reliable then😂
Quote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.
Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.
Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.
I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got
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Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:45:38 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on July 19, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
I guess we know which ITK is more reliable then😂
Stop it, I already hurt someone's feelings today and now you will too.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.
Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.
I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got
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If we did get Wanyama I'm guess it would mean Zambo would be gone
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:53:14 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.
Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.
I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got
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If we did get Wanyama I'm guess it would mean Zambo would be gone
Unless we play wanyama holding, anguiss next to him or just in front?
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Quote from: ealex40 on July 19, 2019, 06:41:10 PMI just thought of that myself as they had to be back hereQuote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
Media stories earlier said he was in Austria with B&HA so hopefully he has flown back
We are playing against Brighton tomorrow, so I guess he had to fly back anyway.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:41:45 PMAgree they can was just saying that as it said at FUlham, but they have to be back as they have us tomorrowQuote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
Media stories earlier said he was in Austria with B&HA so hopefully he has flown back
He can do a medical anywhere, Anderlecht did Mitros for us.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:53:14 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.
Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.
I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got
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If we did get Wanyama I'm guess it would mean Zambo would be gone
Unless we play wanyama holding, anguiss next to him or just in front?
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Quote from: DevonFFC on July 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.
Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.
I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If we did get Wanyama I'm guess it would mean Zambo would be gone
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 19, 2019, 03:41:48 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 03:01:44 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 02:12:20 PM
Anguissa is an absolute nailed on to stay
You think?😉
Pogba lite? Absolutely. Scott Parker rates him. As do I.
There are still 3 available CBs that I'd be happy bringing in any of.
Michael Hector
Daniel Ayala
Axel Tuanzebe
Any of the 3 would improve the CB position. Question is, who wants to come to Fulham.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 06:47:35 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 19, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
Knockaert will be the big money signing of the season then. Think ODowda was plan B.
Wonder which player we are asking for in the Tottenham deal, must be someone that played with Parker during his time in their u18s.
I've actually been told we've requested wanyama. Cannot see that happening at all but that's the news I got
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 19, 2019, 08:10:41 PM
We need a proper anchor player playing next to Zambo if we want to get the best out of him. I've said all along he's more of an 8 than a 6. Given the sort of market we seem to be shopping in with Cavaleiro and seemingly Knockaert I'd look at someone like Nampalys Mendy given he's seemingly behind Ndidi and Choudhury or maybe even try for Oriol Romeu.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:
Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.
Quote from: Ss12white on July 19, 2019, 07:44:39 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 11:04:19 AM
dont shoot the messenger (like last time) but i just got told Knockeart to be announced possible today
Take a bow
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 19, 2019, 07:55:30 PM
Was just passing on info from the chap who has given me many snippets. I text him just now asking what has changed, nothing back yet!. He always says to me don't quote me or tell anyone, I can see why!. Knockaert was playing golf in Surrey yesterday at Old Oak golf club apparently.
Quote from: junior white on July 19, 2019, 08:41:43 PM
Rumour is from Tom Barclay (sun football writer) on twitter is Knockeart's likely move to Fulham will be a one year loan deal and then a 10 million transfer
Quote from: humussapiens on July 19, 2019, 08:47:02 PM
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/bristol-city-boss-lee-johnson-issues-update-on-24-y-os-future/
No offers yet for O'Dowda...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:39:50 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:
Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.
I'm in shed crying.
Wife pinched all the pink coconut ones with the
Liquorice in middle.😤
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:57:08 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:39:50 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:
Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.
I'm in shed crying.
Wife pinched all the pink coconut ones with the
Liquorice in middle.😤
Your heading for a breakdown, have you had your car serviced recently ?
Quote from: Tabby on July 20, 2019, 11:33:15 AM
Tottenham have started planning the medical for Ryan Sess according to football insider.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 20, 2019, 11:40:37 AMQuote from: Tabby on July 20, 2019, 11:33:15 AM
Tottenham have started planning the medical for Ryan Sess according to football insider.
Good now pay us what we want and be gone, dragged on long enough.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:39:50 PMThere are certain things that it is important to include in a marriage contract, being free to attend Fulham matches is the obvious priority but this needs to be closely followed by first choice on your favourite type of liquorice allsort.Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:
Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.
I'm in shed crying.
Wife pinched all the pink coconut ones with the
Liquorice in middle.😤
Quote from: filham on July 20, 2019, 12:08:24 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:39:50 PMThere are certain things that it is important to include in a marriage contract, being free to attend Fulham matches is the obvious priority but this needs to be closely followed by first choice on your favourite type of liquorice allsort.Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2019, 08:27:52 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
I did say something was happening today apart from me getting a packet of liquorice allsorts. :005:
Are you in your Hammock in the third Bush on the right as you proceed into MP.
I'm in shed crying.
Wife pinched all the pink coconut ones with the
Liquorice in middle.😤
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 20, 2019, 03:53:58 PM
Fulham set to confirm the signing of Brighton winger Anthony Knockaert later today after agreeing personal terms and passing his medical. #ffc #BHAFC
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 20, 2019, 03:56:59 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 20, 2019, 03:53:58 PM
Fulham set to confirm the signing of Brighton winger Anthony Knockaert later today after agreeing personal terms and passing his medical. #ffc #BHAFC
Splendid news, keep it coming, Mince will be over the moon, when he hears the good news.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 21, 2019, 02:01:58 PM
18 days before the window closes, the clock is ticking. Although we tend to leave last minute deals to the last second. Nevertheless, it is important we can keep our key players
Quote from: 70sPimlico on July 21, 2019, 02:04:55 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 21, 2019, 02:01:58 PM
18 days before the window closes, the clock is ticking. Although we tend to leave last minute deals to the last second. Nevertheless, it is important we can keep our key players
With Mitro and TC tied down, who would you see as key from the rest?
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 21, 2019, 05:43:24 PMBaruch Hashem, praise be
Peter O'Rourke
Fulham have completed the signing of Brighton winger Anthony Knockaert. #ffc #bhafc
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 21, 2019, 05:48:18 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on July 21, 2019, 05:43:24 PMBaruch Hashem, praise be
Peter O'Rourke
Fulham have completed the signing of Brighton winger Anthony Knockaert. #ffc #bhafc
Put us all out our misery and announce it Fulham!
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Quote from: The Cravenette on July 21, 2019, 06:25:38 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked a few times but how many domestic loans are we allowed?
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 11:31:24 AMNkoudou is another winger do we need one having signed 2?
The Sess deal is £20 million + add-ons with Onomah and maybe Nkoudou moving here according to Matt Law of the Telegraph.
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 11:31:24 AM
The Sess deal is £20 million + add-ons with Onomah and maybe Nkoudou moving here according to Matt Law of the Telegraph.
Quote from: grandad on July 22, 2019, 12:09:47 PMHave to agree. Before we'd signed IC and AK2, I'd have been all over this as think it's actually pretty reasonable deal.Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 11:31:24 AM
The Sess deal is £20 million + add-ons with Onomah and maybe Nkoudou moving here according to Matt Law of the Telegraph.
Don´t need either of these two. We are fine in MF & wingers. RCB or a FB who can play on either flank are what we need.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.
This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.
If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.
COYW!
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.
This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.
If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.
COYW!
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.
This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.
If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.
COYW!
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 01:23:53 PMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.
This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.
If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.
COYW!
In simple terms, you don't get the quality of Cavaleiro and Knockaert without them though. I think as long as both have reasonable buy clauses at end of loan spell, it's not only fine, but essential for teams wanting to get promoted.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.
Quote from: twang on July 22, 2019, 12:42:20 PMak better not go anywhere, rather him than nkoudou, ak been brilliant pre season
As others have said, Nkoudou would have been interesting before we signed Cavaleiro and Knockaert, but not any more. Unless two of Ayite, Kebano and AK leaves of course, but can't see that happening.
Onomah has been on loan to Championship clubs before without impressing too much. As we have Cairney as a nailed on starter in his role, I'd much rather put trust in de la Torre/O'Riley/Francois/Harris as backup options.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on July 22, 2019, 02:02:36 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.
I always think you should give youth a chance at the start of a season to be cover. You always have ream and MLM odoi that can play there. Then if they are not cutting it get someone in Jan. There is alaways getting and experienced pro on a free if we were really desperate too. I think that having too big a squad causes more problems than its worth plus you can spend the money on mitros wages.
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 02:09:25 PMto be fair , you could say every position is adequately covered though if we are going to invludebplayers who could do a job if requiredQuote from: Jimmy Hill on July 22, 2019, 02:02:36 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.
I always think you should give youth a chance at the start of a season to be cover. You always have ream and MLM odoi that can play there. Then if they are not cutting it get someone in Jan. There is alaways getting and experienced pro on a free if we were really desperate too. I think that having too big a squad causes more problems than its worth plus you can spend the money on mitros wages.
Odoi can play there too. He was primarily a left back when we bought him.
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 02:12:49 PMQuote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 02:09:25 PMto be fair , you could say every position is adequately covered though if we are going to invludebplayers who could do a job if requiredQuote from: Jimmy Hill on July 22, 2019, 02:02:36 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.
I always think you should give youth a chance at the start of a season to be cover. You always have ream and MLM odoi that can play there. Then if they are not cutting it get someone in Jan. There is alaways getting and experienced pro on a free if we were really desperate too. I think that having too big a squad causes more problems than its worth plus you can spend the money on mitros wages.
Odoi can play there too. He was primarily a left back when we bought him.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 22, 2019, 02:41:44 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.
Personally I dont. The 'able to do a job' mindset is how you end up with players such as Sakari Mattila. You need to sign players to challenge for starting positions - then McD, Ayite, Christie etc become the backup options...
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 22, 2019, 02:41:44 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.
Personally I dont. The 'able to do a job' mindset is how you end up with players such as Sakari Mattila. You need to sign players to challenge for starting positions - then McD, Ayite, Christie etc become the backup options...
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 01:31:58 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 01:23:53 PMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 22, 2019, 01:09:26 PM
I believe it's still only 2 loan players in PL at any one time.
This is how we got caught out last season. We lost 7 1st team players who were on loan and had to start the season with a whole new team.
If we are looking to promotion, we should limit loans to non starting team members imo.
COYW!
In simple terms, you don't get the quality of Cavaleiro and Knockaert without them though. I think as long as both have reasonable buy clauses at end of loan spell, it's not only fine, but essential for teams wanting to get promoted.
Loan with an option to buy is the best of both worlds IMO.
Try before you buy... keep them if you want to
Even better than a permanent signing
The only downside is that, I suspect, we've had to pay significant loan fees, and/or we'd perhaps have got them slightly cheaper than the option exercise price had we bought them outright now
Quote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us. Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.
Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.
At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club
Quote from: MickeyAdamsFamily on July 22, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
This comes from the Spanish site eldesmarque.com:
"La situación de Chema dentro del equipo es más complicada. El técnico de Silla no cuenta demasiado con el central, por lo que lo más seguro es que termine saliendo de Orriols a lo largo de este verano. En principio, el caudetano ha recibido una oferta del Fulham, por lo que es probable que termine saliendo al club inglés."
Essentially, they're saying it's probable that Chema, who plays in the center of Defense for Levante, is probable to finally leave that team and accept the offer from Fulham to play in England.
He's a Spanish 6' 2-1/2" tall Centre Back.
Anyone seen him play for Levante enough to have an opinion?
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 02:48:06 PMWe're bought odoi to cover both fullback positions, his CB covering has been a bonusQuote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 02:12:49 PMQuote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 02:09:25 PMto be fair , you could say every position is adequately covered though if we are going to invludebplayers who could do a job if requiredQuote from: Jimmy Hill on July 22, 2019, 02:02:36 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
I'm not hearing any talk of left back cover. Surely this is our weakest position as we only have Bryan and er Bryan.
I always think you should give youth a chance at the start of a season to be cover. You always have ream and MLM odoi that can play there. Then if they are not cutting it get someone in Jan. There is alaways getting and experienced pro on a free if we were really desperate too. I think that having too big a squad causes more problems than its worth plus you can spend the money on mitros wages.
Odoi can play there too. He was primarily a left back when we bought him.
Well Odoi has played more games in his career at LB than anywhere else, according to transfermarkt. So he's basically an LB who also does a job for us at CB and RB when required
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 03:41:15 PMQuote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us. Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.
Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.
At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club
Just to clarify/elaborate, transfermarkt says Odoi played well over 100 games at LB, so it wasnt just him doing a job there for Lokeren. Also, do we know he's right footed? Ive a feeling he may be one of those players who's equally good with both feet (and his head... and his back)
Quote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 03:41:15 PMQuote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us. Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.
Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.
At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club
Just to clarify/elaborate, transfermarkt says Odoi played well over 100 games at LB, so it wasnt just him doing a job there for Lokeren. Also, do we know he's right footed? Ive a feeling he may be one of those players who's equally good with both feet (and his head... and his back)
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 22, 2019, 04:25:50 PMQuote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 03:41:15 PMQuote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us. Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.
Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.
At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club
Just to clarify/elaborate, transfermarkt says Odoi played well over 100 games at LB, so it wasnt just him doing a job there for Lokeren. Also, do we know he's right footed? Ive a feeling he may be one of those players who's equally good with both feet (and his head... and his back)
I read somewhere that his favourite position is actually LB. But if I remember correctly he likes to cut inwards from LB which may require a slight change of tactics.
Quote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 04:24:38 PMQuote from: Statto on July 22, 2019, 03:41:15 PMQuote from: f bloke on July 22, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Although certain wide players can play inverted, really don't think you can play inverted full blacks. FBs are important in providing width, the ability to go on the outside. This is especially important if you are playing with inverted wingers. Other than for a game or two, neither Odoi or S Sess can play that position effectively. Odoi also seemed to have real radar problems when playing LB for us. Also neither MLM nor Ream are nearly athletic enough to play that position. FBs need to be just about the most athletic players on the park. It is easier to convert from FB to CB than vice versa eg Odoi.
Odoi may have played LB in the past but that could just him doing a job because there were no other alternatives, just like the position we would be in if we lost Bryan.
At RB, we have CC, Odoi, S Sess and Fossey. Neither the U 23 s or the u 18s had a regular LB last season. They generally had to make do with players playing out of position. We are woefully short of LBs at the club
Just to clarify/elaborate, transfermarkt says Odoi played well over 100 games at LB, so it wasnt just him doing a job there for Lokeren. Also, do we know he's right footed? Ive a feeling he may be one of those players who's equally good with both feet (and his head... and his back)
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He is right footed. When he has played LB for us before he unbalanced the side in that he didn't provide the width to go outside and frequently slowed the game down to shift on to his stronger foot. You really do need be nearly as good with your weaker foot to play as an inverted FB and neither him or S Sess are. In my opinion, he is barely adequate as a RB, not adequate at all as a LB.
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 07:17:08 PM
We're in for Elbasan Rashani of Odd according to the daily mail. Would be yet another winger.
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 07:17:08 PM
We're in for Elbasan Rashani of Odd according to the daily mail. Would be yet another winger.
Quote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 07:17:08 PMwingers mitro and TC and score more goals than the other team!going to be brilliant!!
We're in for Elbasan Rashani of Odd according to the daily mail. Would be yet another winger.
Quote from: f321ffc on July 22, 2019, 08:10:56 PM
From the Twitter sphere
Trevoh Chalobah and Chelsea are nearing an agreement over a new long-term deal for the 20-year-old.
He will be sent out on loan immediately - Fulham and West Brom interested.
Quote from: Fulhammy on July 22, 2019, 05:31:09 PMit is quite important though. As you are taught to show the attacker away from goal and then make the tackle with your stronger foot. If it's your weaker side players tend to just throw a leg out which is normally when you concede a penalty
Is it just me, or is this concern over whether a player is an RCB or LCB new? I can't recall the distinction being an issue in the past. I personally don't mind having two right footed or left footed CBs. A good CB should make that adjustment pretty quickly.
Quote from: FulhamKC on July 22, 2019, 09:10:15 PMnot a fan of that at all. Slow fulbacks are a thing of the past. Boccenegra was pants when he played there.
FWIW, Ream played left FB for the US this summer at the Gold Cup.
Quote from: FulhamKC on July 22, 2019, 09:10:15 PM
FWIW, Ream played left FB for the US this summer at the Gold Cup.
Quote from: river phoenix on July 23, 2019, 08:41:26 AM
Re: Chema, I think we are waiting for Lampard to make a decision on Hector and Tomori so Chema is a backup option if those two stay at Chelsea.
Just my two cents.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
https://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-and-sheffield-wednesday-chase-tottenham-hotspur-midfielder-1-9892653
Fulham and Sheffield Wednesday chase Tottenham Hotspur midfielder
Fulham are chasing Spurs midfielder Josh Onomah, who Sheffield Wednesday are believed to be keen on re-signing on another loan deal. (Daily Telegraph)
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 08:58:52 AMQuote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
https://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-and-sheffield-wednesday-chase-tottenham-hotspur-midfielder-1-9892653
Fulham and Sheffield Wednesday chase Tottenham Hotspur midfielder
Fulham are chasing Spurs midfielder Josh Onomah, who Sheffield Wednesday are believed to be keen on re-signing on another loan deal. (Daily Telegraph)
He played reasonsbly well for Aston Villa as sub on playoff against us. He would really add depth at AM allowing Tom Cairney to play 70 minute games when we have three games in a week.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 08:58:52 AMQuote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
https://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-and-sheffield-wednesday-chase-tottenham-hotspur-midfielder-1-9892653
Fulham and Sheffield Wednesday chase Tottenham Hotspur midfielder
Fulham are chasing Spurs midfielder Josh Onomah, who Sheffield Wednesday are believed to be keen on re-signing on another loan deal. (Daily Telegraph)
He played reasonsbly well for Aston Villa as sub on playoff against us. He would really add depth at AM allowing Tom Cairney to play 70 minute games when we have three games in a week.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 08:46:10 AMQuote from: river phoenix on July 23, 2019, 08:41:26 AM
Re: Chema, I think we are waiting for Lampard to make a decision on Hector and Tomori so Chema is a backup option if those two stay at Chelsea.
Just my two cents.
Frankly, we have signed enough for the first game, just need a little depth in deadline day to strengthen us once injuries occur. Hector is the kind of depth that makes a Mawson injury less scary; Chema is the kind of player that MLM will struggle to win back his place if he does get injuried.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 02:50:36 PMQuote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 22, 2019, 02:41:44 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.
Personally I dont. The 'able to do a job' mindset is how you end up with players such as Sakari Mattila. You need to sign players to challenge for starting positions - then McD, Ayite, Christie etc become the backup options...
or they leave and you're in a similar scenario.......
Quote from: grandad on July 23, 2019, 09:36:24 AM
Bringing in loan players without an option to buy could lead us into the position we had after promotion. Pure loans are fine for a couple of back up players but not starters. We should be looking at PL ready players as Wolves did.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 23, 2019, 09:31:16 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2019, 02:50:36 PMQuote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 22, 2019, 02:41:44 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 22, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
I think "able to do a job" is sufficient for backup options. We have MLM, Odoi, S.Sess and Ream (in that order imo) all able to play at LB should Bryan get injured.
Personally I dont. The 'able to do a job' mindset is how you end up with players such as Sakari Mattila. You need to sign players to challenge for starting positions - then McD, Ayite, Christie etc become the backup options...
or they leave and you're in a similar scenario.......
If your backup players leave because you've replaced them with better then thats a good thing. Also, remember there's 46 games this time around, players like Kebano will still play 30+ games this season even if not first choice starters.
Quote from: snarks on July 23, 2019, 09:03:54 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 23, 2019, 08:58:52 AMQuote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
https://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-and-sheffield-wednesday-chase-tottenham-hotspur-midfielder-1-9892653
Fulham and Sheffield Wednesday chase Tottenham Hotspur midfielder
Fulham are chasing Spurs midfielder Josh Onomah, who Sheffield Wednesday are believed to be keen on re-signing on another loan deal. (Daily Telegraph)
He played reasonsbly well for Aston Villa as sub on playoff against us. He would really add depth at AM allowing Tom Cairney to play 70 minute games when we have three games in a week.
TBH I'd rather let Matt O'Rielly play if we limiting TC, he plays in a similar way Onomah is a more SteffJo type of AM, although Villa fans didn't rate him much from what I recall.
Quote from: bobby01 on July 23, 2019, 12:40:56 PM
Last season proved if he is under pressure with no time on the ball his performances drop.
Quote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PMQuote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.
He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PMQuote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.
He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 24, 2019, 01:32:49 AMQuote from: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PMQuote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.
He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A
I hope Parker doesn't say "you have a big role to play this year" cause it's a lie, as the four midfielders ahead of him will start every game they are available. The truth is the first league game O'Riley will probably play is against Milwall in the middle of a triple header week and if he has a shocker, it will be a while before he gets another chance. Actions speak loader than words, if O'Riley was ready he would have played against Newcastle last season. O'Riley is still younger than when Anguissa played first team football, i think the best is to send him on loan for at least half a season.
Quote from: junior white on July 24, 2019, 09:35:32 AM
I like O'Riley, there's something about him that says I will do well. I see him more like Stef Jo than TC though, more of a box to box player for me
Quote from: Tabby on July 24, 2019, 09:49:29 AMFair enough, Was form what i had seen prior to this season. But I certainly didn't se him in the number 10 roleQuote from: junior white on July 24, 2019, 09:35:32 AM
I like O'Riley, there's something about him that says I will do well. I see him more like Stef Jo than TC though, more of a box to box player for me
He has been swapped in for Kmac during the friendlies so far, think Parker sees him playing as a deep lying playmaker. He has the frame for doing the physical side as well.
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PMQuote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.
He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 24, 2019, 01:01:25 PMQuote from: AllyWhite on July 23, 2019, 01:51:41 PMQuote from: JimOG on July 23, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
I hope SP has sat down with Matt O'Riley and reassured him he will have a big role to play this year. Very gifted, tall and getting stronger.
He looks very composed in the middle of the park and has a wicked left foot. Enjoyed watching his highlights below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvJ1kh37A
I suggest we play him for his Corner kick ability alone.
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2019, 02:23:31 PMReportedly doesn't want to sign one, also reported he said he will stay this season to see how things go
We must get O´Riley signed up with a long contract. He only has a year left & we don´t want him to be snapped up for peanuts. He has got to feature this season to make him want to stay. We have lost too many promising Academy graduates.
Quote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2019, 02:45:05 PMSuspect he was a second choice behind cav and Knockeart
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulhams-offer-21-year-old-declined-club-not-happy-terms/
Quote from: dgnffc on July 24, 2019, 02:47:52 PM
How many wingers can we play at any one time?
It's all gone ominously quiet re any defenders!
Quote from: junior white on July 24, 2019, 03:12:31 PMQuote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2019, 02:45:05 PMSuspect he was a second choice behind cav and Knockeart
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulhams-offer-21-year-old-declined-club-not-happy-terms/
Quote from: Nero on July 24, 2019, 03:29:23 PMQuote from: junior white on July 24, 2019, 03:12:31 PMQuote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2019, 02:45:05 PMSuspect he was a second choice behind cav and Knockeart
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulhams-offer-21-year-old-declined-club-not-happy-terms/
Journalism now days find an old story and find a way to rehash it to make it sound relevant
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 04:30:22 PMQuote from: Nero on July 24, 2019, 03:29:23 PMQuote from: junior white on July 24, 2019, 03:12:31 PMQuote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2019, 02:45:05 PMSuspect he was a second choice behind cav and Knockeart
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulhams-offer-21-year-old-declined-club-not-happy-terms/
Journalism now days find an old story and find a way to rehash it to make it sound relevant
So...who would rather have this player on loan for a year instead of holding on the Ryan Sess for the next two weeks and then keep him for a year instead.
Sorry...I'd rather hold onto Ryan for a year and lose him for a free after. Hell, we already have Ryan.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 05:59:16 PM
Are you really prepared to turn down £20m as some of the media say, or even £10m for one season's service? Spurs could probably get Bale for a season for that price. That makes no football sense let alone business sense.
Quote from: FulhamKC on July 22, 2019, 09:10:15 PM
FWIW, Ream played left FB for the US this summer at the Gold Cup.
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.
If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.
I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.
On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.
Quote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PMWhy would he get a better deal from his next team? The Khans arent poor and Fulham will be in the EPL.Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.
If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.
I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.
On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.
Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 08:35:32 PMQuote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PMWhy would he get a better deal from his next team? The Khans arent poor and Fulham will be in the EPL.Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.
If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.
I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.
On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.
Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
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Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 08:35:32 PMQuote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PMWhy would he get a better deal from his next team? The Khans arent poor and Fulham will be in the EPL.Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.
If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.
I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.
On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.
Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
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Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on July 24, 2019, 08:46:50 PMIf you are on the bench it isn't really playing. I still have a feeling he will stay with usQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 08:35:32 PMQuote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PMWhy would he get a better deal from his next team? The Khans arent poor and Fulham will be in the EPL.Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.
If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.
I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.
On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.
Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
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Why would Ryan not take the opportunity to play Champions League football? Fulham can't offer him that. The Khan's wealth is also blunted by FFP. They can't have the same wage budget as a Tottenham, because Fulham earns less.
I hope Ryan stays and signs, but it looks like he wants to leave the club for a bigger club.
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club.
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:18:34 PMIts already clear in Tony Khans eyes. Why do you think it isnt?
The team, the club, Ryan himself and this messageboard have been distracted by this ongoing saga about interest from Spurs for 18+ months now.
I would be most happy if Ryan signed a new contract with a reasonable buy out clause but that has not happened and looks unlikely.
It really needs to be cleared up by transfer deadline day so that the team can concentrate on returning to the PL.
Quote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 24, 2019, 09:44:14 PMQuote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club.
Would be very upset if real
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PMSo how did your "friend" become the first to break this "news"?
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club.
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.
If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.
I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.
On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 06:43:27 PM
I dont care about maybes. Ryan is currently under contract and would be a valuable component going back up. If our owners arent concerned about the financial hit I sure as heck aint.
I like Ayite and Kabano but they arent a Ryan Sess... And we need one of those more than we need a payout.
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Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 08:35:32 PMQuote from: KJS on July 24, 2019, 08:22:13 PMWhy would he get a better deal from his next team? The Khans arent poor and Fulham will be in the EPL.Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Apparently we're paying a £4m fee for Knockaert even if he leaves at the end of the season, and whilst I think he's slightky better than Sessegnon, his transfer carries the usual risks of a new player not settling in etc.
If we keep Sessegnon this year, we'll probably get at least what, £5m at tribunal if he leaves next summer. So net downside of £5m if we rejected a £10m offer this summer. So roughly the same as the coat of Knockaert for a year.
I also think there's a good chance that if we go up, he'll sign a new contract at that stage, in which we get a £40m player for nothing. Massive potential upside.
On that basis it makes perfect football and business sense to me to reject any offer around the £10m level this summer.
Unfortunately we would get nothing for Ryan at the end of his contract and there is no way he will sign a new contract as he wants to get a better deal from his next club, that is why we will sell him now and to be honest I won't miss him based on last years performances.
And ffs.. People sure are quick to write off a teenager thats given 100% on the pitch whenever hes suited up.
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Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 24, 2019, 09:21:32 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:18:34 PMIts already clear in Tony Khans eyes. Why do you think it isnt?
The team, the club, Ryan himself and this messageboard have been distracted by this ongoing saga about interest from Spurs for 18+ months now.
I would be most happy if Ryan signed a new contract with a reasonable buy out clause but that has not happened and looks unlikely.
It really needs to be cleared up by transfer deadline day so that the team can concentrate on returning to the PL.
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Quote from: Sting of the North on July 24, 2019, 09:45:18 PMQuote from: @jolslover on July 24, 2019, 09:44:14 PMQuote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club.
Would be very upset if real
Me too. Would feel a lot less optimistic about our chances of promotion.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:47:46 PM
£20+ is the fee generally being banded about.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 24, 2019, 09:47:46 PM
That Sessegnon might sign for us if we got promoted seems to be wishful thinking.
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on July 24, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Sessegnon 100% going in next few days. Fulham are stringing the deal out as Parker wants Juan Foyth a CB on loan for the season. Spurs weren't initially keen
Quote from: Danitar on July 24, 2019, 10:12:57 PM
Are we getting Besic in as a replacement then, I can't see why we would be letting him go if we didn't already have a replacement lined up. If Besic is coming in I think this is a better move than keeping Anguissa as Besic is more suited to the league
Quote from: Danitar on July 24, 2019, 10:15:23 PMQuote from: Spirit of 2000 on July 24, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Sessegnon 100% going in next few days. Fulham are stringing the deal out as Parker wants Juan Foyth a CB on loan for the season. Spurs weren't initially keen
I don't want foyth in, every time he plays he always looks clumsy. Just look at the red card he got against Bournemouth and that was just poor all round with the lose of the ball to the high tackle. It's a no from more on him. I would rather have carter-vickers instead
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 24, 2019, 10:30:57 PMCan't see Anguissa getting as many goals as Johansen in that position as he will score and assist more in this league. I see Anguissa playing more of a McDonald role but I feel Besic is better than both of them in that roleQuote from: Danitar on July 24, 2019, 10:12:57 PM
Are we getting Besic in as a replacement then, I can't see why we would be letting him go if we didn't already have a replacement lined up. If Besic is coming in I think this is a better move than keeping Anguissa as Besic is more suited to the league
Anguissa will surely play the Johansen role. Besic can fill in for McDonald
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on July 24, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Sessegnon 100% going in next few days. Fulham are stringing the deal out as Parker wants Juan Foyth a CB on loan for the season. Spurs weren't initially keen
Quote from: Riverside on July 24, 2019, 11:40:21 PMQuote from: Spirit of 2000 on July 24, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Sessegnon 100% going in next few days. Fulham are stringing the deal out as Parker wants Juan Foyth a CB on loan for the season. Spurs weren't initially keen
Now Foyth is v unlikely BUT if true can play RCB and RB
Foyth received his first call-up to the senior Argentina national football team for a number of friendly games to be played in October 2018.[14] He made his actual debut on 16 November 2018 in a friendly against Mexico where he helped Argentina to a 2–0 win. He won the man of the match award and received wide praise for his performance in this match.[15][16] Foyth was selected for the team at the 2019 Copa América, and made his first start in the competition in the match against Qatar.[17] He started as a right-back in three further games, including the semi-final they lost to Brazil 2–0,[18] and the third-place play-off against Chile, which they won 2–1.
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Quote from: filham on July 25, 2019, 11:34:24 AM
I have lost track of things and need to jot down a few points to clarify where we are in this window. I an conscious that there is but nine days to go to the first match and that Parker will be looking to see his first choice team tested against West Ham on Saturday.
1. All of last seasons loan signings have left and some ,like Chambers, need to be replaced.
2. Seri has gone on loan to another club.
3. Mitrovic has extended his contract and we have brought in loan signings Knockaert and Cavaliero to give us probably the best attack in the championship which will have cover from Kamara, Ayite'Fonte and Kebano.
4. No new midfield or back four players have been signed so we are relying on last season's defensive line up, less Chambers, which conceded over 80 goals.
5.No new first team permanent transfers have yet been undertaken.
6. Lots of talk about a possible move to Spurs for Sess but the talk has been going on since last season.
7. No talk at all about Anguissa who may want to leave.
I think that is about it, will there be more moves before the window shuts ? If so we are leaving it late again.
Quote from: twang on July 25, 2019, 12:51:24 PM
Anguissa close to signing with Villarreal according to AS:
Villarreal: close to closing the signing of Zambo Anguissa
Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at Olympique Marseille two seasons ago and Fulham, his current club, paid for him 25 million.
Villarreal CF already has a shot and is very close to closing the signing of his long-awaited center, for which he has been working for months. That is none other than the Cameroon footballer of Fulham André-Frank Zambo Anguissa, who is very close to being a player of the Castellón team. If there were no unexpected setbacks, Villarreal could announce its signing in the next few days.
With his signing, Villarreal would close one of the reinforcements most needed by the team for this next campaign. Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at the Olympique de Marseille two seasons ago, which earned him to go to the Premier as one of Fulham's outstanding signings, which paid 25 million to close his incorporation.
The season has been disastrous for the player and also for the English club, with the decline of category, which has opened the doors to an exit. And that possible exit is Villarreal, which has long had the middle center in its list of preferences as the first option, although depending on whether its departure could be given in the economic parameters that manage those of the Plana.
Anguissa of 1.84 meters high, is a half center of power and power , something that from the club was sought since last season. The idea is to have height and muscle in that position was a priority, since it also allows to advance the position of Vicente Iborra in the field and have more strength in the air game also near the area. Zambo Anguissa is the one chosen by Villarreal, and he was for many weeks, but his signing to close will be one of those complicated operations and in which there has been
https://as.com/futbol/2019/07/25/primera/1564053679_816071.html
Quote from: twang on July 25, 2019, 12:51:24 PM
Anguissa close to signing with Villarreal according to AS:
Villarreal: close to closing the signing of Zambo Anguissa
Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at Olympique Marseille two seasons ago and Fulham, his current club, paid for him 25 million.
Villarreal CF already has a shot and is very close to closing the signing of his long-awaited center, for which he has been working for months. That is none other than the Cameroon footballer of Fulham André-Frank Zambo Anguissa, who is very close to being a player of the Castellón team. If there were no unexpected setbacks, Villarreal could announce its signing in the next few days.
With his signing, Villarreal would close one of the reinforcements most needed by the team for this next campaign. Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at the Olympique de Marseille two seasons ago, which earned him to go to the Premier as one of Fulham's outstanding signings, which paid 25 million to close his incorporation.
The season has been disastrous for the player and also for the English club, with the decline of category, which has opened the doors to an exit. And that possible exit is Villarreal, which has long had the middle center in its list of preferences as the first option, although depending on whether its departure could be given in the economic parameters that manage those of the Plana.
Anguissa of 1.84 meters high, is a half center of power and power , something that from the club was sought since last season. The idea is to have height and muscle in that position was a priority, since it also allows to advance the position of Vicente Iborra in the field and have more strength in the air game also near the area. Zambo Anguissa is the one chosen by Villarreal, and he was for many weeks, but his signing to close will be one of those complicated operations and in which there has been
https://as.com/futbol/2019/07/25/primera/1564053679_816071.html
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 25, 2019, 01:19:28 PMQuote from: twang on July 25, 2019, 12:51:24 PM
Anguissa close to signing with Villarreal according to AS:
Villarreal: close to closing the signing of Zambo Anguissa
Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at Olympique Marseille two seasons ago and Fulham, his current club, paid for him 25 million.
Villarreal CF already has a shot and is very close to closing the signing of his long-awaited center, for which he has been working for months. That is none other than the Cameroon footballer of Fulham André-Frank Zambo Anguissa, who is very close to being a player of the Castellón team. If there were no unexpected setbacks, Villarreal could announce its signing in the next few days.
With his signing, Villarreal would close one of the reinforcements most needed by the team for this next campaign. Zambo Anguissa, 23, stood out at the Olympique de Marseille two seasons ago, which earned him to go to the Premier as one of Fulham's outstanding signings, which paid 25 million to close his incorporation.
The season has been disastrous for the player and also for the English club, with the decline of category, which has opened the doors to an exit. And that possible exit is Villarreal, which has long had the middle center in its list of preferences as the first option, although depending on whether its departure could be given in the economic parameters that manage those of the Plana.
Anguissa of 1.84 meters high, is a half center of power and power , something that from the club was sought since last season. The idea is to have height and muscle in that position was a priority, since it also allows to advance the position of Vicente Iborra in the field and have more strength in the air game also near the area. Zambo Anguissa is the one chosen by Villarreal, and he was for many weeks, but his signing to close will be one of those complicated operations and in which there has been
https://as.com/futbol/2019/07/25/primera/1564053679_816071.html
If he is off, expect to see Harry Arter rumours start flowing again.
Would be a logical replacement.
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PMWait...so contracts in England aren't legally binding?
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism
TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 01:42:38 PMQuote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PMWait...so contracts in England aren't legally binding?
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism
TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PMIts not a rumour (about Frank) im sorry to say
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism
TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 01:48:57 PMQuote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PMIts not a rumour (about Frank) im sorry to say
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism
TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Quote from: Chutney on July 25, 2019, 02:00:52 PM
Anguissa has made it clear in the french press that he wants to leave. No real loss for us either as he has been awful, apart from the loss we'll make from our buying fee.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:28:24 PMQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMSee this is where the chinese whispers get going and all of a sudden hes trouble and wanted to leave.Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
I'm not saying he would have done, it was just a hypothetical.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PMWhich Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etcQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:32:24 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:28:24 PMQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMSee this is where the chinese whispers get going and all of a sudden hes trouble and wanted to leave.Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
I'm not saying he would have done, it was just a hypothetical.
Quote from: Nero on July 25, 2019, 02:34:34 PMBest to keep fit while looking to leave alwaysQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:32:24 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:28:24 PMQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMSee this is where the chinese whispers get going and all of a sudden hes trouble and wanted to leave.Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
I'm not saying he would have done, it was just a hypothetical.
We all no if you want to leave you just need to hit someone at Motspur Park you dont have to stop training
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 02:35:15 PMHe is
Arter
FFS
May as well see if Mark f***ing Fotheringham is available too
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PMWhich Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etcQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PMQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PMWhich Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etcQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.
I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.
Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:50:35 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PMQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PMWhich Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etcQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.
I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.
https://www.mercato365.com/mercato-caleta-chez-grand-ditalie-zambo-anguissa-a-relance-liga-kean-monnaie-dechange-rumeurs-transferts-mardi-25-juin-9170239.html#item=2
"Frank Anguissa (Fulham)
Having broken the bank for the former midfielder of OM (€30 million), Fulham now regrets their investment. Relegated to the Championship, the London club does not want to keep Frank Anguissa and looking for a way out. According to France Football, he is in Spain where Villarreal have made the young midfielder (23 years) their priority."
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:54:00 PMIts a self feeding rumour mill too, this is in Orange, reporting on the other articles: https://orangefootballclub.com/fr/articles/fulham-villarreal-se-positionne-sur-zambo-anguissa/Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:50:35 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PMQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PMWhich Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etcQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.
I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.
https://www.mercato365.com/mercato-caleta-chez-grand-ditalie-zambo-anguissa-a-relance-liga-kean-monnaie-dechange-rumeurs-transferts-mardi-25-juin-9170239.html#item=2
"Frank Anguissa (Fulham)
Having broken the bank for the former midfielder of OM (€30 million), Fulham now regrets their investment. Relegated to the Championship, the London club does not want to keep Frank Anguissa and looking for a way out. According to France Football, he is in Spain where Villarreal have made the young midfielder (23 years) their priority."
That's the opposite of what we're looking for. We're looking for direct quotes from Anguissa saying he wants away.
Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:58:34 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:54:00 PMIts a self feeding rumour mill too, this is in Orange, reporting on the other articles: https://orangefootballclub.com/fr/articles/fulham-villarreal-se-positionne-sur-zambo-anguissa/Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:50:35 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PMQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PMWhich Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etcQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.
I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.
https://www.mercato365.com/mercato-caleta-chez-grand-ditalie-zambo-anguissa-a-relance-liga-kean-monnaie-dechange-rumeurs-transferts-mardi-25-juin-9170239.html#item=2
"Frank Anguissa (Fulham)
Having broken the bank for the former midfielder of OM (€30 million), Fulham now regrets their investment. Relegated to the Championship, the London club does not want to keep Frank Anguissa and looking for a way out. According to France Football, he is in Spain where Villarreal have made the young midfielder (23 years) their priority."
That's the opposite of what we're looking for. We're looking for direct quotes from Anguissa saying he wants away.
" Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa, the Cameroonian midfielder, who left Olympique Marseille for Fulham last summer, had a complicated season, punctuated by relegation to the Championship.
Foot Mercato said the Cottagers want to get rid of the player. The London club should probably not be looking for a prohibitive amount for the former OM star.
According to information from France Football, Villarreal has made the midfielder 23 years their priority to strengthen their interplay.
Plan B of the Yellow Submarine is none other than Younousse Sankharé, the Senegalese midfielder Girondins de Bordeaux"
Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:58:34 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:54:00 PMIts a self feeding rumour mill too, this is in Orange, reporting on the other articles: https://orangefootballclub.com/fr/articles/fulham-villarreal-se-positionne-sur-zambo-anguissa/Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 25, 2019, 02:50:35 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:23 PMQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:33:13 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 02:30:02 PMWhich Im trying to find a link to. As for loan, it could be money saved, parker wants Arter and then need to make space etc etcQuote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 02:27:48 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 02:26:20 PMWho or where has it been said he was refusing to train?
It'll be a shame if Zambo does go, but if we was going to refuse to train, play etc. to force a move through we don't need that around Motspur Park assuming he was meant to be back in on Monday as we're getting ready for Barnsley.
Means we need to sign another Centre-Mid though. I've wanted an "anchor" Midfielder all summer to effectively replace Chambers- but now we need competition for Johansen as well assuming Zambo does go. With Zambo's wages off the books I hope we go for another signing of the Knockaert/Cavaleiro type and try for someone like a Nathaniel Chalobah.
Someone else mentioned he's been openly saying to French media outlets he wants away so i guess that is the likely course of action....Why else would we loan out if he was disgruntled?
If you find please share, as I've not seen anything.
I'd personally put massive question marks over Parker if he'd rather Arter to Anguissa.....I get the feeling this is more of an appeasement exercise on Anguissa than Parker wantign alternative options and freedom on the budget.
https://www.mercato365.com/mercato-caleta-chez-grand-ditalie-zambo-anguissa-a-relance-liga-kean-monnaie-dechange-rumeurs-transferts-mardi-25-juin-9170239.html#item=2
"Frank Anguissa (Fulham)
Having broken the bank for the former midfielder of OM (€30 million), Fulham now regrets their investment. Relegated to the Championship, the London club does not want to keep Frank Anguissa and looking for a way out. According to France Football, he is in Spain where Villarreal have made the young midfielder (23 years) their priority."
That's the opposite of what we're looking for. We're looking for direct quotes from Anguissa saying he wants away.
" Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa, the Cameroonian midfielder, who left Olympique Marseille for Fulham last summer, had a complicated season, punctuated by relegation to the Championship.
Foot Mercato said the Cottagers want to get rid of the player. The London club should probably not be looking for a prohibitive amount for the former OM star.
According to information from France Football, Villarreal has made the midfielder 23 years their priority to strengthen their interplay.
Plan B of the Yellow Submarine is none other than Younousse Sankharé, the Senegalese midfielder Girondins de Bordeaux"
Quote from: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2019, 03:09:25 PMThe original article says it is us trying to offload him, the other two just quote it. So it could be total BS, it could also be just a loan with the club not being sure he is up to the roughhousing of the Championship. Villareal want a loan.
That still suggests we are looking to offload and not that Zambo wants out.....Unless I've read it wrong.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 19, 2019, 03:41:48 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2019, 03:01:44 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 19, 2019, 02:12:20 PM
Anguissa is an absolute nailed on to stay
You think?😉
Pogba lite? Absolutely. Scott Parker rates him. As do I.
There are still 3 available CBs that I'd be happy bringing in any of.
Michael Hector
Daniel Ayala
Axel Tuanzebe
Any of the 3 would improve the CB position. Question is, who wants to come to Fulham.
Quote from: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 03:35:55 PMQuote from: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.
Where would you play him ?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 04:14:29 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 03:35:55 PMQuote from: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.
Where would you play him ?
OK...this is easy. Left wing...off the bench...but if he's in form you can play him in the starting 11 ahead of Ivan.
Have people really forgotten two seasons ago that quickly?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 25, 2019, 04:20:06 PM
Question I'm going to ask everyone here.
If you were Tony Khan would you have loaned Seri?
If you were Tony Khan would you sell Anguissa? (Thinking about the benefit to the team and it's chance to come back up)
Mind...there are two weeks left in the transfer window.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 03:59:19 PMCan't really have the 28 argument if that's the route we take. Plenty of posts on here saying we shouldn't have the age limit... He gets rid and its still wrong.
If we do effectively swap Arter for Zambo we'll have a lot of players 28+ or turning 28 next season, which is slightly concerning and doesn't really match up with what's one of Tony Khan's seemingly main transfer policies. We need to have some players that we can build up and add value to so we can sell and generally speaking I'd say we need to try for players in the sort of 21-24 age range.
Quote"if there are no unexpected setbacks, Villarreal could announce its signing in the next few days."
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 05:38:18 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2019, 03:59:19 PMCan't really have the 28 argument if that's the route we take. Plenty of posts on here saying we should have the age limit... He gets rid and its still wrong.
If we do effectively swap Arter for Zambo we'll have a lot of players 28+ or turning 28 next season, which is slightly concerning and doesn't really match up with what's one of Tony Khan's seemingly main transfer policies. We need to have some players that we can build up and add value to so we can sell and generally speaking I'd say we need to try for players in the sort of 21-24 age range.
Quote from: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 03:35:55 PMYou are right, there is no place for Sess. in our starting eleven, he has to become an impact sub.Quote from: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.
Where would you play him ?
Quote from: MJG on July 25, 2019, 01:48:57 PMQuote from: Statto on July 25, 2019, 01:32:44 PMIts not a rumour (about Frank) im sorry to say
Arter for Anguissa would be bad on so many levels - age, quality, personality, nepotism
TK needs to come out and say these rumours are BS
Quote from: filham on July 25, 2019, 05:54:33 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 25, 2019, 03:35:55 PMYou are right, there is no place for Sess. in our starting eleven, he has to become an impact sub.Quote from: Camel Club on July 25, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Ryan were to sign a new contract this would arguably be the best summer transfer window in the club's history.
Where would you play him ?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 05:31:32 PM
I did post at the end of the season,even though he played last few games,that Parker didn't fancy him.
Maybe and that's what it is,maybe the truth after all what I was told.
Quote from: love4ffc on July 24, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I've been told by a friend that Anguissa is going on loan for the season to Spain tomorrow. Not sure which club.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 25, 2019, 07:47:32 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 05:31:32 PM
I did post at the end of the season,even though he played last few games,that Parker didn't fancy him.
Maybe and that's what it is,maybe the truth after all what I was told.
I think the opposite of this is true, after the majority of games since he took over Parker always spoke to Anguissa for long periods of time after the game. Started pretty much every game since Parker came in and Parker did several positive interviews on him as well. I think Parker was a big fan
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 09:31:35 PMQuote from: @jolslover on July 25, 2019, 07:47:32 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 05:31:32 PM
I did post at the end of the season,even though he played last few games,that Parker didn't fancy him.
Maybe and that's what it is,maybe the truth after all what I was told.
I think the opposite of this is true, after the majority of games since he took over Parker always spoke to Anguissa for long periods of time after the game. Started pretty much every game since Parker came in and Parker did several positive interviews on him as well. I think Parker was a big fan
Parker had no option but to say what he did in the interviews, all managers do.
I got told he was told to play him(was it to do with how much he cost?),and he didn't fancy him.
We will see.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 10:01:15 PM...but he did write 'That Book' did he not 😁👍
I remember Fergie say wonderful things about Jaap Stam days later he was gone..😊
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2019, 10:03:52 PM
Cracking Electric Storm here in Newmarket at moment,sky continuously lit up...⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
Quote from: millsy on July 25, 2019, 11:13:10 PM
Not sure what others saw from Zambo to suggest he would be a success in this lower league. Yes he has some talent but I was unimpressed with his general playing style and also his failure to compete for tough 50:50 balls, not to mention his unwillingness to track back when he/we lost possession.
Of course, he has some raw talent and may improve in leaps and bounds but we couldn't afford to carry him last season and I don't believe we can afford to be patient with him this, if we have hopes of going up again. Problem for me is you can coach lots of things but what I saw from him last season was a lack of heart, which you've either got or you haven't.
Basically, not my type of player and I would rather replace him now, with a combative midfielder, who can put opponents under pressure when they're in possession and pass a simple ball when we are. Think Dave Mackay or Alan Mullery, or even Callum Chambers or a younger Kev MacDonald. There must be someone out there that we can entice.
Quote from: Moltobueno on July 26, 2019, 05:34:45 AM
According to Diario AS, Zambo is already in Spain, had a medical last night. Loan.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 06:44:26 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.
Tony Khan seemed to have a clear strategy last season of buying players to build a solid core Mawson, Anguissa, Seri and Mitro, with wage reduction clauses if we go down that strategy is a bit stupid if we sell the players. Now, we are going to loan/sell the core to buyer wingers and defenders. If we get promoted with Ream, KMac and Stefjo, then i don't think another £100m will save us from relegation. Moronic to sell Anguissa.
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 06:58:05 AM
It isn't always the clubs fault or TK's fault, sometimes it is but not always.
If (and I say if) certain french media reports (as mentioned on this board) are true, then he has told the club he doesn't want to play in the championship, he wouldn't be the first player to do so and he wont be the last either, do we then keep him and have an unhappy player possibly affecting morale (again not saying he will).
If they are true then it would seem best to either sell or loan him so we have a squad focussed on achieving their goals for the season without distractions from within the squad. If they are not true then to me it would seem a little silly to sell or loan a player that in the last 4-6 games of last season got better and better and also during the AFCON looked better than that still.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:40:06 AMQuote from: Moltobueno on July 26, 2019, 05:34:45 AM
According to Diario AS, Zambo is already in Spain, had a medical last night. Loan.
Link?
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.
They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.
Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 07:58:30 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.
They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.
Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.
But not good enough to redeem the sh1tshow of business he did last summer.
The one redeeming factor he had going for him was his claim that he could keep most of this team together, thereby avoiding a repetition of the key mistakes from last summer (high player turnover, last minute signings etc) and giving us a high probability of going back up.
Now it seems his two marquee signings will both be leaving, and 8 days before the first match we still have two holes in the spine of the team.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AMIn my opinion the words superb and excellent mentioned in the same sentence as TK and his recruitment outfit is a sacrilege.Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.
They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.
Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.
Quote from: toshes mate on July 26, 2019, 08:25:58 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AMIn my opinion the words superb and excellent mentioned in the same sentence as TK and his recruitment outfit is a sacrilege.Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.
They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.
Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.
TK has massively contradicted himself in one breath arguing it was always more likely than not we would be relegated and in almost the next breath saying Anguissa and Seri were intended as purchases for the future (not at FFC as it would seem to appear as of now). That makes no sense at all. The guy is an opportunist and not a far sighted and able football technician with the skill levels and knowledge required to make decisions without a incredible amount of input from his professional football colleagues. He admits that input didn't happen with SJ but does not explain why; meanwhile SJ has told us 'recruitment isn't my job'. SP has been joining in - as far as we know - and so let's at least wait and see how the season pans out before we draw any conclusions at all about TK's recent business.
Quote from: toshes mate on July 26, 2019, 08:25:58 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 07:01:55 AMIn my opinion the words superb and excellent mentioned in the same sentence as TK and his recruitment outfit is a sacrilege.Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
Tony Khan and his team confuse me.
They've done superb business so far. Signing 2 of the best wingers in recent years at this level, tied down 2 of our most important players to long term deals, and given Seri the time he wanted away, with the chance of him returning to us in the PL again.
Business still needs to be done, but what he's done so far is excellent.
TK has massively contradicted himself in one breath arguing it was always more likely than not we would be relegated and in almost the next breath saying Anguissa and Seri were intended as purchases for the future (not at FFC as it would seem to appear as of now). That makes no sense at all. The guy is an opportunist and not a far sighted and able football technician with the skill levels and knowledge required to make decisions without a incredible amount of input from his professional football colleagues. He admits that input didn't happen with SJ but does not explain why; meanwhile SJ has told us 'recruitment isn't my job'. SP has been joining in - as far as we know - and so let's at least wait and see how the season pans out before we draw any conclusions at all about TK's recent business.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
If all this is true about Zambo, then this has just magnified what massive errors of judgement were involved in purchasing them in the first place. What exactly were their impact on the team last year considering they cost Fulham an arm and a leg. Not the sort of characters you need when your under the pump. I got the impression neither of them wanted to be here in the first place.
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, no surprise there. So what exactly was TKs cunning plan in the first place when he shook hands a year ago when he completed both deals, seems a complete disaster from start to finish, and how much did it cost Fulham to have the pleasure of their company.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:50:14 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, no surprise there.
How dare they go and represent their countries #KhanOUT
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:50:14 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
If all this is true about Zambo, then this has just magnified what massive errors of judgement were involved in purchasing them in the first place. What exactly were their impact on the team last year considering they cost Fulham an arm and a leg. Not the sort of characters you need when your under the pump. I got the impression neither of them wanted to be here in the first place.
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, no surprise there. So what exactly was TKs cunning plan in the first place when he shook hands a year ago when he completed both deals, seems a complete disaster from start to finish, and how much did it cost Fulham to have the pleasure of their company.
How dare they go and represent their countries #KhanOUT
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Anguissa leaving will probably tip us over the threshold where "most" (ie more than 50%) of last summer's signings, both by number (7 out of 12) and value (players costing over half the £100m) are no longer with us, just a year later.
Shocking.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 09:14:22 AMQuote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Anguissa leaving will probably tip us over the threshold where "most" (ie more than 50%) of last summer's signings, both by number (7 out of 12) and value (players costing over half the £100m) are no longer with us, just a year later.
Shocking.
The problem at this club is not the players coming through the front door, the problem is that it's a revolving door. Anguissa and Seri came with a pay rise and now their paid well leaving.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 09:09:01 AMStrategy more like bull in a China shop strategy, great business up to this point I suspect Scott's wishes player wise so far,now he's selling Zambo!Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:50:14 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
If all this is true about Zambo, then this has just magnified what massive errors of judgement were involved in purchasing them in the first place. What exactly were their impact on the team last year considering they cost Fulham an arm and a leg. Not the sort of characters you need when your under the pump. I got the impression neither of them wanted to be here in the first place.
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, no surprise there. So what exactly was TKs cunning plan in the first place when he shook hands a year ago when he completed both deals, seems a complete disaster from start to finish, and how much did it cost Fulham to have the pleasure of their company.
How dare they go and represent their countries #KhanOUT
I think you have wandered onto the wrong thread again. The point I was making was that the whole episode of Seri and Zambo has been a disaster from start to finish, which is magnified by the cost to the club, not exactly value for money, and the contributions have been pitiful. Both examples of poor recruitment.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 07:17:28 AMI get what your saying, but i was just pointing out it is too simplistic a view to blame TK or the club every time we sell a player that we want to keep, if they don't want to play for the club and make that clear there seems no point in keeping them and having an unhappy squad. If they think they are too good for the championship which obviously Seri did and maybe according to french paper reports (if they are true i have no clue as i said earlier) Anguissa does then get rid and play people who want to be with us.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 06:58:05 AM
It isn't always the clubs fault or TK's fault, sometimes it is but not always.
If (and I say if) certain french media reports (as mentioned on this board) are true, then he has told the club he doesn't want to play in the championship, he wouldn't be the first player to do so and he wont be the last either, do we then keep him and have an unhappy player possibly affecting morale (again not saying he will).
If they are true then it would seem best to either sell or loan him so we have a squad focussed on achieving their goals for the season without distractions from within the squad. If they are not true then to me it would seem a little silly to sell or loan a player that in the last 4-6 games of last season got better and better and also during the AFCON looked better than that still.
Scott Parker is a very inexperienced manager if he thinks letting every player leave that's wants to leave will stop with Seri, Anguissa and R.Sess; frankly i'm sure a few more players with be thinking should i join Norwich, Sheffield United or other teams now that those three have left. Isnt Cairney from Yorkshire.
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 09:30:04 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 07:17:28 AMI get what your saying, but i was just pointing out it is too simplistic a view to blame TK or the club every time we sell a player that we want to keep, if they don't want to play for the club and make that clear there seems no point in keeping them and having an unhappy squad. If they think they are too good for the championship which obviously Seri did and maybe according to french paper reports (if they are true i have no clue as i said earlier) Anguissa does then get rid and play people who want to be with us.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 06:58:05 AM
It isn't always the clubs fault or TK's fault, sometimes it is but not always.
If (and I say if) certain french media reports (as mentioned on this board) are true, then he has told the club he doesn't want to play in the championship, he wouldn't be the first player to do so and he wont be the last either, do we then keep him and have an unhappy player possibly affecting morale (again not saying he will).
If they are true then it would seem best to either sell or loan him so we have a squad focussed on achieving their goals for the season without distractions from within the squad. If they are not true then to me it would seem a little silly to sell or loan a player that in the last 4-6 games of last season got better and better and also during the AFCON looked better than that still.
Scott Parker is a very inexperienced manager if he thinks letting every player leave that's wants to leave will stop with Seri, Anguissa and R.Sess; frankly i'm sure a few more players with be thinking should i join Norwich, Sheffield United or other teams now that those three have left. Isnt Cairney from Yorkshire.
Personally for me most of Ligue 1 is no better than the championship, so playing premier league football for these players is ore of a stretch so they should play and prove their worth, alas most will not do so as they are fickle and believe agent talk or their own hype
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 26, 2019, 09:52:48 AM
It annoys the poo out if me when these big time charlies come in on big fees, play like crap and then swan off on loan to top tier teams when they help get us relegated. It annoyed me when it was mitroglou, it annoyed me when it was ruiz, and it annoys me when its these 2. Id rather play them in the reserves, damn the money
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 26, 2019, 09:52:48 AM
It annoys the poo out if me when these big time charlies come in on big fees, play like crap and then swan off on loan to top tier teams when they help get us relegated. It annoyed me when it was mitroglou, it annoyed me when it was ruiz, and it annoys me when its these 2. Id rather play them in the reserves, damn the money
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.
All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.
Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.
How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 09:51:44 AMI don't disagree but just saying that's what most clubs would do. We overpaid last summer in my opinion for both, so if we were to sell we wouldn't get that money back being a championship club as buyers would see as distressed sellers, a loan from that point (although I am against it) makes sense as if we go up we have two players who can play and if not then can get a higher value, but again i doubt would be what we paid as i think we overpaid.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 09:30:04 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 07:17:28 AMI get what your saying, but i was just pointing out it is too simplistic a view to blame TK or the club every time we sell a player that we want to keep, if they don't want to play for the club and make that clear there seems no point in keeping them and having an unhappy squad. If they think they are too good for the championship which obviously Seri did and maybe according to french paper reports (if they are true i have no clue as i said earlier) Anguissa does then get rid and play people who want to be with us.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 06:58:05 AM
It isn't always the clubs fault or TK's fault, sometimes it is but not always.
If (and I say if) certain french media reports (as mentioned on this board) are true, then he has told the club he doesn't want to play in the championship, he wouldn't be the first player to do so and he wont be the last either, do we then keep him and have an unhappy player possibly affecting morale (again not saying he will).
If they are true then it would seem best to either sell or loan him so we have a squad focussed on achieving their goals for the season without distractions from within the squad. If they are not true then to me it would seem a little silly to sell or loan a player that in the last 4-6 games of last season got better and better and also during the AFCON looked better than that still.
Scott Parker is a very inexperienced manager if he thinks letting every player leave that's wants to leave will stop with Seri, Anguissa and R.Sess; frankly i'm sure a few more players with be thinking should i join Norwich, Sheffield United or other teams now that those three have left. Isnt Cairney from Yorkshire.
Personally for me most of Ligue 1 is no better than the championship, so playing premier league football for these players is ore of a stretch so they should play and prove their worth, alas most will not do so as they are fickle and believe agent talk or their own hype
Well, if we sell Seri and Anguissa at financial losses, then there is no money for transfers. The net result is instead of having a unhappy Seri and unhappy Anguissa in the starting XI, we have a happy Tayo Edun and a happy Cisse. And frankly, i'd prefer a unhappy Seri and Anguissa at the club, besides once the transfer windows is closed they only have two choices "sulk" or "suck it up". Sunderland got relegated and didn't want unhappy players to stay, by the way the club if players leave we have to pay their incoming transfer fee all in one year instead amortised over the contract.
Alex Ferguson wouldn't care if a player is unhappy, or wants to go elsewhere. Once you develop a culture of letting unhappy players go, players start thinking about who they would prefer to play for and once they think about other options they quickly become uphappy. Cairney would surely be thinking if he says his unhappy then he'll end up back in his home Yorkshire in the Premier League for Sheffield United. Allowing unhappy players to go where they choose in the "road to ruin".
I think the Anguissa move and not wanting unhappy players was Scott Parker's input, he may prove to be a foolish inexperienced manager because booking financial losses won't allow him any money to buy new players. FFP rules crucifies any manager that sells players at losses, i really wonder if he knows what he is getting himself into by letting unhappy leave. HUGE MISTAKE
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AMThat's why i said in my post if the reports are true as I haven't seen them and papers make up a lot of rubbish at times.
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.
All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.
Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.
How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Anguissa leaving will probably tip us over the threshold where "most" (ie more than 50%) of last summer's signings, both by number (7 out of 12) and value (players costing over half the £100m) are no longer with us, just a year later.
Shocking.
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Why is everyone going on about Harry Arter? I get the nepotism thing, but I haven't seen much linking us to him otherwise.
Quote from: Jim© on July 26, 2019, 10:32:49 AMNot during the season as apparently no recall clauseQuote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Anguissa leaving will probably tip us over the threshold where "most" (ie more than 50%) of last summer's signings, both by number (7 out of 12) and value (players costing over half the £100m) are no longer with us, just a year later.
Shocking.
Hang on, you're being a little creative with numbers there- 5 of the 12 were loans so always going back (Schurrle could have stayed another season but really?) and only Seri has actually gone (on loan so could come back if we so wished).
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 10:33:43 AMQuote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Why is everyone going on about Harry Arter? I get the nepotism thing, but I haven't seen much linking us to him otherwise.
We've been linked with him since January. Lots of reports linking us. True or not, I don't know but its been widely reported.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 26, 2019, 02:18:48 AMQuote from: millsy on July 25, 2019, 11:13:10 PM
Not sure what others saw from Zambo to suggest he would be a success in this lower league. Yes he has some talent but I was unimpressed with his general playing style and also his failure to compete for tough 50:50 balls, not to mention his unwillingness to track back when he/we lost possession.
Of course, he has some raw talent and may improve in leaps and bounds but we couldn't afford to carry him last season and I don't believe we can afford to be patient with him this, if we have hopes of going up again. Problem for me is you can coach lots of things but what I saw from him last season was a lack of heart, which you've either got or you haven't.
Basically, not my type of player and I would rather replace him now, with a combative midfielder, who can put opponents under pressure when they're in possession and pass a simple ball when we are. Think Dave Mackay or Alan Mullery, or even Callum Chambers or a younger Kev MacDonald. There must be someone out there that we can entice.
Zambo would absolutely tear that league apart, he is the only midfielder left that cam make it in Premier League as he is young and will improve. Sorry, Cairney one goal and one assist every 2000 minutes makes him a very good premier league squad player, not a premier league starter.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 10:33:43 AMQuote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Why is everyone going on about Harry Arter? I get the nepotism thing, but I haven't seen much linking us to him otherwise.
We've been linked with him since January. Lots of reports linking us. True or not, I don't know but its been widely reported.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 09:09:01 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 26, 2019, 08:50:14 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
If all this is true about Zambo, then this has just magnified what massive errors of judgement were involved in purchasing them in the first place. What exactly were their impact on the team last year considering they cost Fulham an arm and a leg. Not the sort of characters you need when your under the pump. I got the impression neither of them wanted to be here in the first place.
So where are they now ?
Not a Craven Cottage, not at Motspur Park, neither have played in any preseason matches, why is that I ask my self. Because they are both abroad, no surprise there. So what exactly was TKs cunning plan in the first place when he shook hands a year ago when he completed both deals, seems a complete disaster from start to finish, and how much did it cost Fulham to have the pleasure of their company.
How dare they go and represent their countries #KhanOUT
I think you have wandered onto the wrong thread again. The point I was making was that the whole episode of Seri and Zambo has been a disaster from start to finish, which is magnified by the cost to the club, not exactly value for money, and the contributions have been pitiful. Both examples of poor recruitment.
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.
All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.
Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.
How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 04:01:05 PMHe is going and it's been ready for a few days. The link further down is from someone close to the club who does some TV work for them.Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.
All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.
Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.
How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.
I'm still waiting to see him holding up something saying Villareal. I mean, he took his physical 2 days ago...yet we've got nothing other than a spanish report with no meat behind it.
Now, he may be going... but I'm still skeptical.
English media normally jump all over this. Especially a club based in London. No pictures, no player statements, no manager statements
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2019, 04:01:05 PMQuote from: MJG on July 26, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I once again ask for a link saying where Anguissa has said he wants to leave or spoken to a paper or site about it.
All these posts here and elsewhere slagging him off for doing or saying stuff that there is not a shred of evidence to show that.
Posters getting angry at him (or plyers like him) when all you are doing is making it up in your mind "hes going on loan so must have asked to go and not trained and is a bad egg' when in reality we dont know.
How about Parker wants Arter but he was given option of one or the other and he went for his relative? I dont know if its true but i suppose I could keep typing that to belive it in my own mind.
I'm still waiting to see him holding up something saying Villareal. I mean, he took his physical 2 days ago...yet we've got nothing other than a spanish report with no meat behind it.
Now, he may be going... but I'm still skeptical.
English media normally jump all over this. Especially a club based in London. No pictures, no player statements, no manager statements
Quote from: Number Six on July 26, 2019, 05:27:30 PM
To lose Anguissa and Seri would mean last season truly was a complete disaster.
Anguissa's potential was the one shining light and even then we were probably clutching at straws. To lose him now would really mean it was an utter waste of time.
Quote from: Riversider on July 26, 2019, 06:38:54 PM
Todd Kane, Chelsea right back, has been released and is free to find another club, played over a 100 games in The Championship whilst on loan, would he be a decent addition for little outlay ?
Does anybody know much about him ?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2019, 06:14:53 PMMy thoughts exactly.Would we let him go with no one else joining?
Wage wise we've probably effectively just done Knockaert and Cavaleiro for Zambo and Seri probably with a bit of change depending on what the Relegation drop % was for Zambo and Seri.
Would imagine we've got a set budget that we can't exceed for FFP reasons- so getting Zambo's wages off the books + a loan fee should hopefully fund another incoming.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2019, 06:52:34 PM
A journalist called Duncan Castles said we have a two year option on Sessegnon's deal. Surely that isn't true, because it would be more common knowledge by now if it was.
(https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/794097/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Ryan-Sessegnon-Fulham-Tottenham-Transfer-Window-podcast)
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PMWas just going by the news paper reports last month and what sky sports said a couple of weeks backQuote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Wanted 35m
Quote from: grandad on July 26, 2019, 08:11:39 PM
We are mighty thin in DM & CM. Added that we need a RCB & possibly RB is starting to worry me. I can see a mad last day panic again just to swell the numbers.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 08:18:50 PM90% of our budget - you know that for fact I take it?
Ugh....cant believe anyone who thinks the last window was in any way productive considering not only the terrible season we produced but the sorry squad we now find ourselves with. Lacklustre at the back, massively thin on the ground in the middle and by the looks of it, 90% of our budget on the front 4. It might be exciting football, but its a rollercoaster and a nearly team waiting to happen. Not impressed.
Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:43:08 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PMWas just going by the news paper reports last month and what sky sports said a couple of weeks backQuote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Wanted 35m
Not that i am saying either are correct just what was being reported
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PMKnow if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMWanted 35mQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 26, 2019, 09:36:15 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2019, 08:18:50 PM90% of our budget - you know that for fact I take it?
Ugh....cant believe anyone who thinks the last window was in any way productive considering not only the terrible season we produced but the sorry squad we now find ourselves with. Lacklustre at the back, massively thin on the ground in the middle and by the looks of it, 90% of our budget on the front 4. It might be exciting football, but its a rollercoaster and a nearly team waiting to happen. Not impressed.
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2019, 09:39:09 PMTend to agreeQuote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:43:08 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PMWas just going by the news paper reports last month and what sky sports said a couple of weeks backQuote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Wanted 35m
Not that i am saying either are correct just what was being reported
it will never be disclosed in detail but even if the reports say we're getting 20, i bet barely half that will be payable up front.
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PMKnow if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMWanted 35mQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PMKnow if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMWanted 35mQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PMKnow if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMWanted 35mQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 26, 2019, 10:44:38 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PMKnow if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMWanted 35mQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday
As in tomorrow?
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:50:58 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on July 26, 2019, 10:44:38 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PMKnow if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMWanted 35mQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday
As in tomorrow?
Sorry meant next Saturday
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:50:58 PMHas to be in by Friday as the market closes on the 2nd August doesn't it?Quote from: JoelH5 on July 26, 2019, 10:44:38 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 10:41:25 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 26, 2019, 09:51:09 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:40:41 PMKnow if there is anyone heading the other way? Or is it just money.Quote from: junior white on July 26, 2019, 07:31:19 PMWanted 35mQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2019, 07:02:00 PMGiven a year left on his deal, i would think around 20 even though the club a reported to have wanted 45
Been told Sess signing for Spurs tomorrow & its not as much as we were hoping for apparently
Dont know but apparently a CB incoming hopefully by Saturday
As in tomorrow?
Sorry meant next Saturday
Quote from: junior white on July 27, 2019, 07:59:05 AM
Has to be in by Friday as the market closes on the 2nd August doesn't it?
Sorry meant next Saturday
Quote from: grandad on July 27, 2019, 12:47:08 PM
I thought that this season we would do our business early so that the new players could take part in all the pre season. It looks like we will play our 1st league game with a patchwork defence and midfield.
Quote from: colinwhite on July 27, 2019, 01:01:03 PM
Not just us but nearly every other team as well,its the way the market works.
Quote from: Arthur on July 27, 2019, 09:42:51 AMI thought it closed the Friday before the season started, maybe that's the prem then as sure i remember that last yearQuote from: junior white on July 27, 2019, 07:59:05 AM
Has to be in by Friday as the market closes on the 2nd August doesn't it?
Sorry meant next Saturday
We can sign players up until Thursday 8th August.
Quote from: junior white on July 27, 2019, 01:50:27 PMQuote from: Arthur on July 27, 2019, 09:42:51 AMI thought it closed the Friday before the season started, maybe that's the prem then as sure i remember that last yearQuote from: junior white on July 27, 2019, 07:59:05 AM
Has to be in by Friday as the market closes on the 2nd August doesn't it?
Sorry meant next Saturday
We can sign players up until Thursday 8th August.
Quote from: Nero on July 27, 2019, 03:57:05 PM
QPR have signed Todd Kane right back from Chelsea and Marc Pugh Midfielder from Bournemouth on free transfers
Quote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.
One step forward, three steps back.
Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PMQuote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.
One step forward, three steps back.
Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PMQuote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.
One step forward, three steps back.
Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:25:27 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PMQuote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.
One step forward, three steps back.
Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??
Because he was yet to recover from a knee operation
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.
One step forward, three steps back.
Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:39:31 PMQuote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:25:27 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PMQuote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.
One step forward, three steps back.
Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??
Because he was yet to recover from a knee operation
Ok so you think no clubs ever signed a player recuperating from a common injury before? He was actually told he could play on with it at Swansea.
He had a routine operation to clean up his cartilage & a bit of wear & tear . No reason why any club would have reservations about signing him or any other player in the same circumstances pending a successful medical, he was only a few weeks behind the rest in pre season
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 27, 2019, 07:33:21 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PMQuote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.
One step forward, three steps back.
Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??
At the time everyone thought it was a terrific window. Hindsight what a wonderful thing!!
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 09:29:59 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on July 27, 2019, 07:33:21 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PMQuote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.
One step forward, three steps back.
Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??
At the time everyone thought it was a terrific window. Hindsight what a wonderful thing!!
How else are you meant to judge a transfer other than with hindsight....mean this in the nicest way but what a silly comment...
Quote from: jayffc on July 27, 2019, 09:36:02 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 09:29:59 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on July 27, 2019, 07:33:21 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PMQuote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.
One step forward, three steps back.
Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??
At the time everyone thought it was a terrific window. Hindsight what a wonderful thing!!
How else are you meant to judge a transfer other than with hindsight....mean this in the nicest way but what a silly comment...
The point is the person making the decision can only make it in the moment, they can't see the future, they're not privy to the hindsight. If we more or less all agree that, in the moment its made, a signing seems a good idea, and we agree with the person who made the call... its a bit cheap, and indeed silly to chastise the person who made the signing later if it doesn't workout how you yourself thought it would at the time.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 12:35:24 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.
I think the point (although not super clear from previous posts) is that judging only on result without further context is pointless. Therefore, it is not hindsight as such, but the pretending that the actual result was the only reasonable result that is the problem. Thus, the debate.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 12:38:05 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 12:35:24 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.
I think the point (although not super clear from previous posts) is that judging only on result without further context is pointless. Therefore, it is not hindsight as such, but the pretending that the actual result was the only reasonable result that is the problem. Thus, the debate.
What's the point in the debate when you have the outcome? We know he *could* of been a good signing, but in a results driven industry, it fails on both accounts. The transfers didn't help us stay up, AND a significant portion of the investment has been shipped out on loan and won't play so however you want to look at it, its not favourable.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 01:29:56 AM
It's not just Mawson but he's still an example of a unsuccessful signing. In your scenario of 500k for Messi who doesn't kick a ball and gets run over, yes, hindsight and results would suggest an unsuccessful recruitment outcome as he wouldn't of done anything at the club. For me, there's not much difference if a player fails to have an impact on pitch due to insufficient quality or injury as the bottom line is the same, it didn't work out for whatever reason.
As for making it sound obvious, I'm surprised the idea that post analysis of a players success is driven by hindsight isn't obvious. It's the only measure you can have. You can say 'in the past it was an decent signing at the time' but in the present and likely of knee injuries persist or force early retirement (heaven forbid) it's been a failure both in us getting relegated and now, short of quality on the same position we found ourselves urgently needing in a far more competitive league last time out. Now, with a further season on, it would seem little has been added and prior heavy investment squandered. It's hard not to see that even for the biggest optimist surely.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 01:04:36 AMBut unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mawson's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 12:38:05 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 12:35:24 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.
I think the point (although not super clear from previous posts) is that judging only on result without further context is pointless. Therefore, it is not hindsight as such, but the pretending that the actual result was the only reasonable result that is the problem. Thus, the debate.
What's the point in the debate when you have the outcome? We know he *could* of been a good signing, but in a results driven industry, it fails on both accounts. The transfers didn't help us stay up, AND a significant portion of the investment has been shipped out on loan and won't play so however you want to look at it, its not favourable.
I assume we are discussing the Mawson signing here (forgive me if that is not the case). If so, the point (which should actually be obvious) is to debate whether it was a reasonable signing or not. No one (I would assume) believes it has turned out particularly well so far. But to make a silly example (in case the point is still unclear), if we would have signed Messi for 500K and he then got run over by an old Volvo the next day with a fatal outcome, would you still claim that it was a bad signing (not result, which was obviously bad)?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 01:29:56 AM
It's not just Mawson but he's still an example of a unsuccessful signing. In your scenario of 500k for Messi who doesn't kick a ball and gets run over, yes, hindsight and results would suggest an unsuccessful recruitment outcome as he wouldn't of done anything at the club. For me, there's not much difference if a player fails to have an impact on pitch due to insufficient quality or injury as the bottom line is the same, it didn't work out for whatever reason.
As for making it sound obvious, I'm surprised the idea that post analysis of a players success is driven by hindsight isn't obvious. It's the only measure you can have. You can say 'in the past it was an decent signing at the time' but in the present and likely of knee injuries persist or force early retirement (heaven forbid) it's been a failure both in us getting relegated and now, short of quality on the same position we found ourselves urgently needing in a far more competitive league last time out. Now, with a further season on, it would seem little has been added and prior heavy investment squandered. It's hard not to see that even for the biggest optimist surely.
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 01:04:36 AMBut unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mason's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 12:38:05 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 12:35:24 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
Judging people on buying decisions with hindsight, is literally how the world works.....I can't believe this is even a topic of debate in an industry where one is judged by player recruitment.
I think the point (although not super clear from previous posts) is that judging only on result without further context is pointless. Therefore, it is not hindsight as such, but the pretending that the actual result was the only reasonable result that is the problem. Thus, the debate.
What's the point in the debate when you have the outcome? We know he *could* of been a good signing, but in a results driven industry, it fails on both accounts. The transfers didn't help us stay up, AND a significant portion of the investment has been shipped out on loan and won't play so however you want to look at it, its not favourable.
I assume we are discussing the Mawson signing here (forgive me if that is not the case). If so, the point (which should actually be obvious) is to debate whether it was a reasonable signing or not. No one (I would assume) believes it has turned out particularly well so far. But to make a silly example (in case the point is still unclear), if we would have signed Messi for 500K and he then got run over by an old Volvo the next day with a fatal outcome, would you still claim that it was a bad signing (not result, which was obviously bad)?
I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.
However, I suspect both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.
I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AM
But unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mawson's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.
I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.
However, I suspect that because of the op, both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.
I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.
Also, TK, as the person responsible for signing Mawson, would (one hopes) of given the decision far more consideration than the average fan or poster on here. He'd also have had access to far, far more information on which he could make a decision. Therefore I don't consider it a significant mitigant that some on here said at the time, in throwaway comments without much information, that it seemed a good signing.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 02:23:17 AMQuote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AM
But unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mawson's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.
I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.
However, I suspect that because of the op, both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.
I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.
Also, TK, as the person responsible for signing Mawson, would (one hopes) of given the decision far more consideration than the average fan or poster on here. He'd also have had access to far, far more information on which he could make a decision. Therefore I don't consider it a significant mitigant that some on here said at the time, in throwaway comments without much information, that it seemed a good signing.
I acknowledged that it is possible that he carried a higher risk of further injuries, since I do not know. That additional risk could have been huge, or close to zero (or even zero). I disagree though that we can say with any certainty that the decision was wrong at the time, and as such I don't believe it was clearly the wrong decision.
I agree that we are allowed to question the decision with the benefit of hindsight, and I think most agree that the signing has so far turned out unsuccessfully. That doesn't need to translate into thinking it was a bad signing at the time. I actually don't think that my stance is neither contradictory in the slightest, nor complicated.
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 02:23:17 AMQuote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AM
But unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mawson's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.
I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.
However, I suspect that because of the op, both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.
I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.
Also, TK, as the person responsible for signing Mawson, would (one hopes) of given the decision far more consideration than the average fan or poster on here. He'd also have had access to far, far more information on which he could make a decision. Therefore I don't consider it a significant mitigant that some on here said at the time, in throwaway comments without much information, that it seemed a good signing.
I acknowledged that it is possible that he carried a higher risk of further injuries, since I do not know. That additional risk could have been huge, or close to zero (or even zero). I disagree though that we can say with any certainty that the decision was wrong at the time, and as such I don't believe it was clearly the wrong decision.
I agree that we are allowed to question the decision with the benefit of hindsight, and I think most agree that the signing has so far turned out unsuccessfully. That doesn't need to translate into thinking it was a bad signing at the time. I actually don't think that my stance is neither contradictory in the slightest, nor complicated.
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:45:55 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 02:23:17 AMQuote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 02:08:01 AM
But unless I've misinterpreted you, you seemed to acknowledge in a post above that Mawson's injury/op increased, albeit perhaps only slightly, the risk of him suffering a further injury.
I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not suggesting a serious problem had already crystallised when we signed Mawson, nor do I disagree with anything HillingdonFFC has said above.
However, I suspect that because of the op, both our medical team and TK were aware the transfer was at least slightly riskier than signing a fully fit player with no recent issues. In that case, TK would have weighed that risk against the potential rewards of bringing Mawson in, and decided to proceed.
I don't think there's anything wrong with questionning that decision now, with the benefit of hindsight. Clearly it was wrong and legitimate questions might be, eg, did TK factor into his risk assessment the particular importance of a CB in a team that would likely spend most of its time defending, the importance of Mawson given we had no other CBs anywhere near his level, the need for consistency in defence more than other areas, and so on.
Also, TK, as the person responsible for signing Mawson, would (one hopes) of given the decision far more consideration than the average fan or poster on here. He'd also have had access to far, far more information on which he could make a decision. Therefore I don't consider it a significant mitigant that some on here said at the time, in throwaway comments without much information, that it seemed a good signing.
I acknowledged that it is possible that he carried a higher risk of further injuries, since I do not know. That additional risk could have been huge, or close to zero (or even zero). I disagree though that we can say with any certainty that the decision was wrong at the time, and as such I don't believe it was clearly the wrong decision.
I agree that we are allowed to question the decision with the benefit of hindsight, and I think most agree that the signing has so far turned out unsuccessfully. That doesn't need to translate into thinking it was a bad signing at the time. I actually don't think that my stance is neither contradictory in the slightest, nor complicated.
To clarify a couple of points, when I said "clearly the decision was wrong" I meant, as you've put it, it has "turned out unsuccessful". I fully understand the difference between a decision that turns out to be wrong with the passage of time, versus a decision that was bad at the time it was made. However, my point is I think the decision to sign Mawson was both the former and the latter, and not simply because we can see with hindsight he got repeatedly injured, but because TK may not have correctly weighed the risk of that at the time we purchased Mawson. Had Mawson been a winger, the risk would have perhaps been worth taking, because a player being unavailable in that part of the team would likely have been far less impactful than an injury to our best CB, for the reasons I gave. Did TK, with his limited football knowledge, comsider that sort of thing when he quantified the risk?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 05:04:59 AM
I was more worried they'd find the illicit hooch which is brewing away in there.😎
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 08:11:45 AMHe made 23 appearances last season for Hibs, not sure he's been out for a year?
Ryan Porteous on trial from Hibs,centre back whose been out injured for over a year,and only just back in training..... So we'll most prob sign him as we like to give a home to cripples.[emoji43]
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 28, 2019, 08:19:31 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 08:11:45 AMHe made 23 appearances last season for Hibs, not sure he's been out for a year?
Ryan Porteous on trial from Hibs,centre back whose been out injured for over a year,and only just back in training..... So we'll most prob sign him as we like to give a home to cripples.[emoji43]
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅
Quote from: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 08:27:02 AMOk... U should be fired for bringing up Gary Cahill.
Gary Cahill, I've heard mentioned again a couple of times this weekend.
Mainly suggesting he's on his way to Galatasary & even Arsenal & Man Utd linked with him but we're still being mentioned in the reports as apparently wants to remain in London & we're 'desperate for defensive reinforcements'.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 28, 2019, 08:19:31 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 08:11:45 AMHe made 23 appearances last season for Hibs, not sure he's been out for a year?
Ryan Porteous on trial from Hibs,centre back whose been out injured for over a year,and only just back in training..... So we'll most prob sign him as we like to give a home to cripples.[emoji43]
Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 08:53:01 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅
Yes, your non-football related mood outbursts add so much more to the thread as per usual. Are we trying to sign the fox?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 28, 2019, 09:04:19 AMQuote from: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 08:27:02 AMOk... U should be fired for bringing up Gary Cahill.
Gary Cahill, I've heard mentioned again a couple of times this weekend.
Mainly suggesting he's on his way to Galatasary & even Arsenal & Man Utd linked with him but we're still being mentioned in the reports as apparently wants to remain in London & we're 'desperate for defensive reinforcements'.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 09:16:16 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 08:53:01 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅
Yes, your non-football related mood outbursts add so much more to the thread as per usual. Are we trying to sign the fox?
Bit of fun to take away the droll of constant same argument, that you and a couple of others end up arguing over on different threads,no problem with that if you keep it in check.
One of your cohorts last week added about 9 quotes taking up the whole page,and at that bottom of it just passed a three word sarcastic reply.
I like some of your comments,as I do Statto's but sometimes your going round in circles and ending up arguing over the same thing but on different thread.😊
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 10:11:31 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 09:16:16 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 08:53:01 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅
Yes, your non-football related mood outbursts add so much more to the thread as per usual. Are we trying to sign the fox?
Bit of fun to take away the droll of constant same argument, that you and a couple of others end up arguing over on different threads,no problem with that if you keep it in check.
One of your cohorts last week added about 9 quotes taking up the whole page,and at that bottom of it just passed a three word sarcastic reply.
I like some of your comments,as I do Statto's but sometimes your going round in circles and ending up arguing over the same thing but on different thread.😊
Still hung up on the quote stuff huh....might of been worth you know, adding to discussion with transfer gossip or wants and needs of the team to derail it rather than moaning about people debating. I'm so fed up of you derailing debates with your constant moaning.....over and out. That's tongue in cheek by the way....
Players I want, Austin Mooy, Besic, Ayala, Richie, Tomori and McCarthy. Can't see any of those coming off but if I had to place one on wish list I'd add Mooy.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 09:16:16 AM
Bit of fun to take away the droll of constant same argument, that you and a couple of others end up arguing over on different threads,no problem with that if you keep it in check.
One of your cohorts last week added about 9 quotes taking up the whole page,and at that bottom of it just passed a three word sarcastic reply.
I like some of your comments,as I do Statto's but sometimes your going round in circles and ending up arguing over the same thing but on different thread.😊
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 10:17:54 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2019, 10:11:31 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 09:16:16 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on July 28, 2019, 08:53:01 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 04:37:21 AM
Once again Transfer Gossip being taken over by the same individuals who hijack every topic with their continuous war of trying to oudo each other with their continuous I know better than you,and I'll prove it by putting up more quotes than anyone else....
Get a f+++ing room.
Yes I'm in a bad mood Police have just woken me up chasing a fox through the back garden,haven't they got anything better to do?🙅
Yes, your non-football related mood outbursts add so much more to the thread as per usual. Are we trying to sign the fox?
Bit of fun to take away the droll of constant same argument, that you and a couple of others end up arguing over on different threads,no problem with that if you keep it in check.
One of your cohorts last week added about 9 quotes taking up the whole page,and at that bottom of it just passed a three word sarcastic reply.
I like some of your comments,as I do Statto's but sometimes your going round in circles and ending up arguing over the same thing but on different thread.😊
Still hung up on the quote stuff huh....might of been worth you know, adding to discussion with transfer gossip or wants and needs of the team to derail it rather than moaning about people debating. I'm so fed up of you derailing debates with your constant moaning.....over and out. That's tongue in cheek by the way....
Players I want, Austin Mooy, Besic, Ayala, Richie, Tomori and McCarthy. Can't see any of those coming off but if I had to place one on wish list I'd add Mooy.
👅👅👅👅👅😋
Oh Jesus....Just realised I've added 4 quotes.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
Quote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in
Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Would everyone look at that as a successful window?
Quote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in
Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Would everyone look at that as a successful window?
Quote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in
Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Would everyone look at that as a successful window?
Quote from: @jolslover on July 28, 2019, 11:49:36 AMQuote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in
Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Would everyone look at that as a successful window?
I don't think we need Ryan Sess
I would much rather have the money - Knockaert and Cavaleiro both better players so he wouldn't start.
Between Kamara, Ayite and Kebano we have more than enough backup
We have built a squad for without Sess so for him to stay and us not get the money and see him leave on a free would be very bad IMO
Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AMQuote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.
Quote from: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 11:55:14 AMQuote from: @jolslover on July 28, 2019, 11:49:36 AMQuote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in
Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Would everyone look at that as a successful window?
I don't think we need Ryan Sess
I would much rather have the money - Knockaert and Cavaleiro both better players so he wouldn't start.
Between Kamara, Ayite and Kebano we have more than enough backup
We have built a squad for without Sess so for him to stay and us not get the money and see him leave on a free would be very bad IMO
:plus one:
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AMwe have sess position covered now sell to highest bidder!Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AMQuote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.
McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and Villa.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 27, 2019, 07:33:21 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 27, 2019, 07:23:08 PMQuote from: Statto on July 27, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: Statto on July 01, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
If we're only signing a defender and a winger (which IMO is all we need as it stands) then for once, I'm happy for business to be done a bit later
What a difference a month makes. IMO we now need two defenders and two central midfielders, and that's too many players to integrate in August.
One step forward, three steps back.
Three terrible transfer decisions from last summer (Mawson, Anguissa and Seri) look set to scupper this season as well, I reckon.
So why at that time, was signing Mawson a terrible transfer decision??
At the time everyone thought it was a terrific window. Hindsight what a wonderful thing!!
Quote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 12:34:21 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AMwe have sess position covered now sell to highest bidder!Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AMQuote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.
McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and Villa.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 28, 2019, 12:58:59 PM
Sorry to have caused such a late night/early morning stir with the comment about hindsight, but don't you guys have beds to go to! Or was it the wine taking over.
My comment, like our transfers of last season, SEEMED A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME!
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
West Ham striker Jordan Hugill has joined QPR on a season long loan.
Quote from: GJB on July 28, 2019, 01:13:19 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
West Ham striker Jordan Hugill has joined QPR on a season long loan.
I'm not sure if you were suggesting this should have been a player we should have gone for or not, but If we're chasing promotion, his goal-scoring record isn't probably up to scratch.
He only managed 6 goals for Boro last season in 38 appearances and at Preston he scored 23 in 103 appearances - 1 goal every 4/5 matches.
Quote from: GJB on July 28, 2019, 01:13:19 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
West Ham striker Jordan Hugill has joined QPR on a season long loan.
I'm not sure if you were suggesting this should have been a player we should have gone for or not, but If we're chasing promotion, his goal-scoring record isn't probably up to scratch.
He only managed 6 goals for Boro last season in 38 appearances and at Preston he scored 23 in 103 appearances - 1 goal every 4/5 matches.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AMQuote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AMQuote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.
McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and Villa.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
The Fox escaped,he was too fast for plod.
Apparently it was Jamie Vardy.😊
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
The Fox escaped,he was too fast for plod.
Apparently it was Jamie Vardy.😊
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AMQuote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AMQuote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.
McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and Villa.
Quote from: absenteeism on July 28, 2019, 02:14:32 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
The Fox escaped,he was too fast for plod.
Apparently it was Jamie Vardy.😊
I don't know what you are talking about on a permanent basis.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AMLast central defender highly rated in Scotland we signed turned out well, Shaun Hutchinson. Not saying will be the same but he doesn't seem any better from the clips I looked up today
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 28, 2019, 02:16:33 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AMQuote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AMQuote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.
McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and Villa.
McKenna is left footed. Doesn't solve our immediate problem.
Quote from: junior white on July 28, 2019, 04:43:28 PMQuote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AMLast central defender highly rated in Scotland we signed turned out well, Shaun Hutchinson. Not saying will be the same but he doesn't seem any better from the clips I looked up today
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
Quote from: GJB on July 28, 2019, 12:03:25 PMI too am now anxious to see the back of Sess. without further delay so that money becomes available for players in critical positions.Quote from: Fulham76 on July 28, 2019, 11:55:14 AMQuote from: @jolslover on July 28, 2019, 11:49:36 AMQuote from: MrFFC on July 28, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
If we kept Ryan & Steven Sessegnon & brought in
Michael Hector
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Would everyone look at that as a successful window?
I don't think we need Ryan Sess
I would much rather have the money - Knockaert and Cavaleiro both better players so he wouldn't start.
Between Kamara, Ayite and Kebano we have more than enough backup
We have built a squad for without Sess so for him to stay and us not get the money and see him leave on a free would be very bad IMO
:plus one:
+2
Quote from: filham on July 28, 2019, 05:19:40 PM
Right now the most pressing need is for cover in centre mid, then a centre half followed by a right back.
I also think it correct to say that Sess is surplus to immediate requirements.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 28, 2019, 02:16:33 PMIf Mawson's injury yesterday proves to be serious with him being unavailable long term and I really hope this isn't the case then McKenna bring left footed like Mawson could be a possible suitable replacement option.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2019, 11:56:01 AMQuote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 11:22:47 AMQuote from: Bracken White on July 28, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Just to clarify, Ryan Porteous - 20 yr old 6' 2" CH who has represented Scotland at U19, U20 & U21 levels.
We need somebody in right now, Porteous, even if he was fit, wouldn't get in to our side right now, but Scott McKenna of Aberdeen would, and at £3 million would be a bargain,
James Tavernier and Scott McKenna for a combined £11 million and a lot of our defensive problems are solved.
McKenna old fashioned centre half,might get a few red cards down here(takes no prisoners).
Wouldn't get him for 3 mill anyway,they've turned down 5 and 6 mill bids from Stoke and Villa.
McKenna is left footed. Doesn't solve our immediate problem.
Quote from: Hoppus on July 28, 2019, 06:36:40 PM
A journalist in Norway told me we want to sign Ajer (Celtic).
Quote from: Riversider on July 28, 2019, 06:53:30 PMWould hate to see what you think of RangersQuote from: Hoppus on July 28, 2019, 06:36:40 PM
A journalist in Norway told me we want to sign Ajer (Celtic).
As much as I despise Celtic and their unwashed supporters,
Quote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 07:08:36 PM0001.jpeg
It's all doom n gloom on here ain't it!
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
We conceded more goals in the EPL than any club in history last season.
We have needed a CB pairing for five seasons now and still haven't sorted it.
This club is the laughing stock of th league imo.
I actually feel sorry for Parker. He will do well to end up mid table.
Ho hum
Coyw!
Quote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
It's all doom n gloom on here ain't it!
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 10:37:21 PMQuote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
It's all doom n gloom on here ain't it!
In fairness, in the space of 48 hrs we've lost the 1st and potentially (to injury) the 4th most expensive players we've signed in our history (one of whom was our only decent defender) and our youngest ever first team player, without receiving a decent fee for any of them. It was hardly the best way for the penultimate weekend of the transfer window to pan out.
Quote from: Roberty on July 28, 2019, 06:58:36 PMInspirational words, if only they had been preceded by a summer of action over the Cottage.
I might be alone in thinking this but - never in the field of human discussion; has so much been said, by so many, about so little
My thanks to - W S Churchill from whom I borrowed most of the words
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 28, 2019, 10:44:42 PMRealistically, if we finish top 10 that would be a good season. It appears that expectations are made by the heart....rather than the head. We would all like automatic promotion but it isnt going to be a walk in the park.Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2019, 10:37:21 PMQuote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
It's all doom n gloom on here ain't it!
In fairness, in the space of 48 hrs we've lost the 1st and potentially (to injury) the 4th most expensive players we've signed in our history (one of whom was our only decent defender) and our youngest ever first team player, without receiving a decent fee for any of them. It was hardly the best way for the penultimate weekend of the transfer window to pan out.
It's a fair point.
Last week I put a bet on that we'd win the league. I'm seriously considering cashing it out to get my money back.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
This club is the laughing stock of the league imo.
Quote from: Atomhead on July 29, 2019, 10:52:42 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
This club is the laughing stock of the league imo.
Are you for real?! The key part of this utterly ridiculous sentence is "IMO". Other clubs in this league would cut their arms off for just one of Mitro, Caviliero, Cairney, Knockhaert, Sessignon, Bryan let alone all of them.
Quote from: spikey norman on July 29, 2019, 11:51:51 AM
Parker predicts more signings
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/parker-predicts-more-fulham-signings#.XT7KVFn0DWg.twitter
Quote from: spikey norman on July 29, 2019, 11:51:51 AM
Parker predicts more signings
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/parker-predicts-more-fulham-signings#.XT7KVFn0DWg.twitter
Quote from: Atomhead on July 29, 2019, 10:52:42 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
This club is the laughing stock of the league imo.
Are you for real?! The key part of this utterly ridiculous sentence is "IMO". Other clubs in this league would cut their arms off for just one of Mitro, Caviliero, Cairney, Knockhaert, Sessignon, Bryan let alone all of them.
Quote from: twang on July 29, 2019, 01:33:32 PM
Johansen's agent and the club are in talks over a new deal and Stefan says he really enjoys his time here now, compared to when he left on loan.
https://www.an.no/fotball/jobb/mediebransjen/nar-ny-avtale-jeg-skal-satses-pa/s/5-4-1050461
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
I've heard that Scottie and TK are having words over Sess, Scottie wants him to stay and Sess wants to as well,but Khan jnr wants him sold.
It came from my friend where I live,his lad works for the Express,and he gets hear a few whispers what's going on.
Hard to make out,I'd have thought our owners would want Ryan to stay.....Just what I heard.
Quote from: Moltobueno on July 29, 2019, 03:05:31 PMOnly his wallet
Is Drinkwater linked with anyone?
Quote from: MJG on July 29, 2019, 03:09:52 PMQuote from: Moltobueno on July 29, 2019, 03:05:31 PMOnly his wallet
Is Drinkwater linked with anyone?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 29, 2019, 02:26:36 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
I've heard that Scottie and TK are having words over Sess, Scottie wants him to stay and Sess wants to as well,but Khan jnr wants him sold.
It came from my friend where I live,his lad works for the Express,and he gets hear a few whispers what's going on.
Hard to make out,I'd have thought our owners would want Ryan to stay.....Just what I heard.
I could see some sense to this. From the business standpoint, unless Ryan wants to protect us financially, and sign a new contract, the business side would want him out and not end up with no money. From a footballing perspective, having Ryan in your squad will always enrich us that this level BUT where does he start? Tough one as I rate Knockaert and Cavaleiro in front of him currently.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
We conceded more goals in the EPL than any club in history last season.
We have needed a CB pairing for five seasons now and still haven't sorted it.
This club is the laughing stock of th league imo.
I actually feel sorry for Parker. He will do well to end up mid table.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 29, 2019, 02:26:36 PMI can't quit see where there is a place for Sess. in Parker's team but I would like him to stay but then only if he wants to and is prepared to sign a contract. No way is he worth £25m for a season which is what it amounts to if we allow him to walk away on a free next summer.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
I've heard that Scottie and TK are having words over Sess, Scottie wants him to stay and Sess wants to as well,but Khan jnr wants him sold.
It came from my friend where I live,his lad works for the Express,and he gets hear a few whispers what's going on.
Hard to make out,I'd have thought our owners would want Ryan to stay.....Just what I heard.
I could see some sense to this. From the business standpoint, unless Ryan wants to protect us financially, and sign a new contract, the business side would want him out and not end up with no money. From a footballing perspective, having Ryan in your squad will always enrich us that this level BUT where does he start? Tough one as I rate Knockaert and Cavaleiro in front of him currently.
Quote from: filham on July 29, 2019, 03:27:32 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 29, 2019, 02:26:36 PMI can't quit see where there is a place for Sess. in Parker's team but I would like him to stay but then only if he wants to and is prepared to sign a contract. No way is he worth £25m for a season which is what it amounts to if we allow him to walk away on a free next summer.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
I've heard that Scottie and TK are having words over Sess, Scottie wants him to stay and Sess wants to as well,but Khan jnr wants him sold.
It came from my friend where I live,his lad works for the Express,and he gets hear a few whispers what's going on.
Hard to make out,I'd have thought our owners would want Ryan to stay.....Just what I heard.
I could see some sense to this. From the business standpoint, unless Ryan wants to protect us financially, and sign a new contract, the business side would want him out and not end up with no money. From a footballing perspective, having Ryan in your squad will always enrich us that this level BUT where does he start? Tough one as I rate Knockaert and Cavaleiro in front of him currently.
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?
Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?
Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Quote from: Mullers OG on July 29, 2019, 03:21:17 PM
Priority for the season should be to sort out the RB and CB positions and to get a back up striker for Mitro. If to do that cash needs to be raised then I can understand the ownership's view about Sess.
RB has been a problem position ever since Fredericks left. Christie is a hard working full back but in the opinion of many supporters not quite up to the job. One of the best full backs in the world is without a club at the moment; what about Alves? What a coup that would be! CB looks a bit thin although personally I have great respect for Odoi. If all the team last year had shown his level of passion and commitment they would probably still be in the premiership.
Mitro might survive all season without being injured or suspended; on the other hand he might not and at the moment there is no adequate back up. Kamara is being given a second chance by the club. That's fine; let's see how it goes. He is better in my view as an impact sub out wide.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 29, 2019, 04:35:03 PMQuote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?
Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Wow, that is some strong words... I tend to disagree on every level
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?
Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Quote from: Twig on July 29, 2019, 04:49:49 PMQuote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?
Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
WUM alert
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 05:47:12 PMCan't think of many who played well last season. Sess was no worse than anyone else, just not as good as the year before. You simplify things to much and that isn't always the case.Quote from: Twig on July 29, 2019, 04:49:49 PMQuote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?
Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
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No I am not.
I think Sess is overrated. He was awful last season. Lightweight and brushed off the ball.
If Sess was playing for an opposing team our stats based signings system would not have him on our transfer shortlist.
In the Chanmpionship most of his goals were tap ins which I attribute to his positioning sense and timing.
I think 20 million is a great price for him plus future add ons
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2019, 03:19:53 PM
But time is running out to spend the so called money.
Spuds if they still want him will wait to last day.
Quote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PMGot to be an all time low of ridiculous comments about Sessingnon
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?
Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Quote from: colinwhite on July 29, 2019, 06:08:49 PMQuote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PMGot to be an all time low of ridiculous comments about Sessingnon
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?
Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 06:33:24 PMslight problem, he doesnt want to sign a contract extension
Sign Sess up to a new contract for 3 years and a release cause of £35M+ only to be sold in the summer breaks, he was excellent the season we were promoted. How many goals did he score 15/16 cant remember and his pass at Wembley set the winning goal up. Money wise we can afford him because we aint going to buy him but give him a bigger contract and we can spread the cost over 3 seasons I think.
The injury could be a blessing in disguise.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 06:33:24 PM
Sign Sess up to a new contract for 3 years and a release cause of £35M+ only to be sold in the summer breaks, he was excellent the season we were promoted. How many goals did he score 15/16 cant remember and his pass at Wembley set the winning goal up. Money wise we can afford him because we aint going to buy him but give him a bigger contract and we can spread the cost over 3 seasons I think.
The injury could be a blessing in disguise.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 29, 2019, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 06:33:24 PMslight problem, he doesnt want to sign a contract extension
Sign Sess up to a new contract for 3 years and a release cause of £35M+ only to be sold in the summer breaks, he was excellent the season we were promoted. How many goals did he score 15/16 cant remember and his pass at Wembley set the winning goal up. Money wise we can afford him because we aint going to buy him but give him a bigger contract and we can spread the cost over 3 seasons I think.
The injury could be a blessing in disguise.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 07:13:15 PMOr...he doesn't.Quote from: fulhamben on July 29, 2019, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: SuffolkWhite on July 29, 2019, 06:33:24 PMslight problem, he doesnt want to sign a contract extension
Sign Sess up to a new contract for 3 years and a release cause of £35M+ only to be sold in the summer breaks, he was excellent the season we were promoted. How many goals did he score 15/16 cant remember and his pass at Wembley set the winning goal up. Money wise we can afford him because we aint going to buy him but give him a bigger contract and we can spread the cost over 3 seasons I think.
The injury could be a blessing in disguise.
Then he has to be sold, but if he does want to stay then he has to sign.
Quote from: colinwhite on July 29, 2019, 06:08:49 PMQuote from: absenteeism on July 29, 2019, 03:33:03 PMGot to be an all time low of ridiculous comments about Sessingnon
It is time for Sess to go. A technically poor player. Poor touch, poor crossing and just poor in general. Good positioning sense but how many sitters did he miss last year?
Lets see if the incompetent Tony Khan can sell him on time
Quote from: Bracken White on July 30, 2019, 08:41:33 AM
Have to say that I'm surprised at some of the Ryan Sessegnon comments, which I totally disagree with. The lad, still a teenager, is still an outstanding talent - his control? Excellent - football brain that is intuitive + an ability to be in the right place at the right time. A new contract? What a coup that would be ... no brainer.
Quote from: the nutflush on July 30, 2019, 09:40:03 AM
So still no transfer gossip...
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 12:48:42 PM
Sess deal off unfortunately.
If the man had any decency he would sign a 1 year extension
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 12:48:42 PM
Sess deal off unfortunately.
If the man had any decency he would sign a 1 year extension
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.
£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.
Quote from: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 02:01:20 PM
Three trialists in the u23 game against Bournemouth, two of them CB's and one a LB. Anyone know anything else?
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.
£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.
£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.
I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.
£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.
I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.
Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.
Quote from: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.
£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.
I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.
Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.
Quote from: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 02:01:20 PM
Three trialists in the u23 game against Bournemouth, two of them CB's and one a LB. Anyone know anything else?
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.
£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.
I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.
Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.
Quote from: Jim© on July 30, 2019, 03:31:08 PM
He's played at a top level in Spain (though only 150 apps and he's 27). But then so had Amorebietta...
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2019, 04:35:28 PM
Would anyone be happy with Ashley Williams on a free?
Quote from: Ordar on July 30, 2019, 04:41:19 PM
This thread is absolute death. Pages and pages of nonsense and no rumours.
Can we open a thread for literally just rumours and no discussions?
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 30, 2019, 04:38:00 PMQuote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2019, 04:35:28 PM
Would anyone be happy with Ashley Williams on a free?
I would, solid, experienced a leader.
Sadly he's not the sort of player we sign nowasays.
Quote from: Ordar on July 30, 2019, 04:41:19 PMSome posters one in particular seems to post just to get a response.I think they call it click bait.
This thread is absolute death. Pages and pages of nonsense and no rumours.
Can we open a thread for literally just rumours and no discussions?
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 30, 2019, 04:04:23 PMQuote from: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 02:01:20 PM
Three trialists in the u23 game against Bournemouth, two of them CB's and one a LB. Anyone know anything else?
Reg Matthewson, Paul Went and John Dempsey
I challenge you to pick three better from the old days
Quote from: Ordar on July 30, 2019, 04:41:19 PMThere is a thread which is locked, updated as and when we are officially linked with someone........
This thread is absolute death. Pages and pages of nonsense and no rumours.
Can we open a thread for literally just rumours and no discussions?
Quote from: MickeyAdamsFamily on July 22, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
This comes from the Spanish site eldesmarque.com:
"La situación de Chema dentro del equipo es más complicada. El técnico de Silla no cuenta demasiado con el central, por lo que lo más seguro es que termine saliendo de Orriols a lo largo de este verano. En principio, el caudetano ha recibido una oferta del Fulham, por lo que es probable que termine saliendo al club inglés."
Essentially, they're saying it's probable that Chema, who plays in the center of Defense for Levante, is probable to finally leave that team and accept the offer from Fulham to play in England.
He's a Spanish 6' 2-1/2" tall Centre Back.
Anyone seen him play for Levante enough to have an opinion?
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PM
This is a disaster of a window.
Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PMHave you considered a season ticket at Brentford?Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.
£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.
I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.
Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 30, 2019, 06:39:40 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 30, 2019, 02:43:10 PMHave you considered a season ticket at Brentford?Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: twang on July 30, 2019, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: grandad on July 30, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Brentford must be mad paying £18 mil for Joel Valencia. A winger who has scored 13 goals in 178 games for League 2 equivalent teams.
£1,8m or €2m - not £18m.
I apologize. Did not see the dot. Even at that price he does seem a poor buy.
Have you seen him play ?
In fact have you even heard of him ?
If the answer to both is no, then how can you have an opinion on him !
Brentford have got a first class record on buying low and selling high , so no reason to think that this signing will be any different,
Fulham meanwhile have turned £100 million in to dust.
It appears that you really admire everything they do and yet we can do nothing right!
Seems a no-brainer.
Quote from: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PM
This is a disaster of a window.
Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PMRumoured fee 20-25 million, maybe replacing Dunk who could be Leicester bound i guess
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PMKeeping TC and MItro adding cav and Knockeart wouldn't say a disaster. Justdefence that mainly needs sorting as it stands, if that was sorted I would accept not replacing Anguissa
This is a disaster of a window.
Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
Quote from: junior white on July 30, 2019, 07:21:55 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PMRumoured fee 20-25 million, maybe replacing Dunk who could be Leicester bound i guess
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 30, 2019, 06:54:58 PMQuote from: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...
I wouldn't be surprised if this one turns out to be true. Smells like a typical TK signing:
-Never played outside Spain
-Spent most of his career in the second tier or lower playing for B-teams.
-Top flight experience limited to 45 matches over the last two seasons for a lower half team.
A stats signing if there ever was one. He could turn out great of course...
Quote from: Statto on July 30, 2019, 07:45:57 PMHave you considered stand up.Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 30, 2019, 06:54:58 PMQuote from: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...
I wouldn't be surprised if this one turns out to be true. Smells like a typical TK signing:
-Never played outside Spain
-Spent most of his career in the second tier or lower playing for B-teams.
-Top flight experience limited to 45 matches over the last two seasons for a lower half team.
A stats signing if there ever was one. He could turn out great of course...
Spot on
His full name may as well be Ragnar Chema Rui Jozabed
Quote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PM
This is a disaster of a window.
Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again
Quote from: Statto on July 30, 2019, 07:45:57 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 30, 2019, 06:54:58 PMQuote from: sussexwhite on July 30, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
@ETransferNews are reporting on twitter that Chema is being introduced to the team tomorrow and should be announced before saturday. Not sure how reliable this is though...
I wouldn't be surprised if this one turns out to be true. Smells like a typical TK signing:
-Never played outside Spain
-Spent most of his career in the second tier or lower playing for B-teams.
-Top flight experience limited to 45 matches over the last two seasons for a lower half team.
A stats signing if there ever was one. He could turn out great of course...
Spot on
His full name may as well be Ragnar Chema Rui Jozabed
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PMI tend to agree, although i do bails at times when they have been their clubs player of the year, memories of Pringle and Stearman come flooding back
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
Quote from: junior white on July 30, 2019, 08:45:54 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PMI tend to agree, although i do bails at times when they have been their clubs player of the year, memories of Pringle and Stearman come flooding back
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
Quote from: KJS on July 30, 2019, 06:56:38 PMQuote from: absenteeism on July 30, 2019, 06:16:14 PMYou're happy with the window?
This is a disaster of a window.
Boy genius Tony Khan strikes again
Why don't you run along and support QPHA because you are obviously not a Fulham fan
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:53:25 PMQuote from: junior white on July 30, 2019, 08:45:54 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PMI tend to agree, although i do bails at times when they have been their clubs player of the year, memories of Pringle and Stearman come flooding back
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
Yep there is that but Stears was a Wolves fan made good so probably blinded a few. I've heard Leeds, Wednesday, Bristol City fans etc all say Hector was the nuts last season.
Take on board Lampard assessing the squad but with all the will in the world I cant see him figuring. Tomori another player if the year at Derby would be another one. Think hes Premier league bound though
Quote from: Tabby on July 30, 2019, 07:43:09 PMQuote from: junior white on July 30, 2019, 07:21:55 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PMRumoured fee 20-25 million, maybe replacing Dunk who could be Leicester bound i guess
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
United starting a transfer chain that doubled each players worth. Kind of impressive.
Quote from: Tooting legend on July 30, 2019, 11:14:42 PM
Can we use this site for FFC transfers and possible moves Im not interested in other clubs news. It gets so boring coming on here and someone is posting another clubs news this is FFC keep it that way. On that note goodnight.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
Quote from: BernieBoy on July 30, 2019, 09:08:39 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 30, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Bristol City centreback Adam Webster about to join Brighton.... Someone I'd have liked us to go for,always thought he were good even when at Ipswich.
They are talking £20m+ though, which is madness! Got to think they are lining up Dunk replacement if he goes to Leicester.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 31, 2019, 07:40:33 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
FFP
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2019, 07:56:58 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on July 31, 2019, 07:40:33 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 30, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Why is Sheffield Wednesday player of the year, someone most championship observers said was arguably the best centre half in the division, Michael Hector, not already a Fulham player??
FFP
People with a far greater knowledge of FFP than I have reckon we've got money to spend, although not sure if that was factoring in expected funds from Sess transfer ?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 07:49:12 AM
Yes its madness,but I'd rather we spent 20 mill on a towering centre back like him than throw away over 50 mill on two useless midfielders from France.
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 11:31:52 AMQuote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
The last paragraph should be framed and hung up in his office.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 11:31:52 AMQuote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
The last paragraph should be framed and hung up in his office.
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 11:45:58 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 11:31:52 AMQuote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
The last paragraph should be framed and hung up in his office.
how can a headless chicken have a beak full of money? :-)
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 11:45:58 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2019, 11:31:52 AMQuote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
The last paragraph should be framed and hung up in his office.
how can a headless chicken have a beak full of money? :-)
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PMBreed scouting for us know as well cool. Ayer could not get in the Celtic team, wasnt even one of their top 4 centre backs, was loaned out to Kilmarnock, not knocking him per say but the last centre back we signed from a mid table Scottish team didn't turn out too well for us
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:14:55 PMFair enough, would have thought Arter delayed now due to the Gosling injury
didnt say he is scouting. i believe he knows him through him playing for the national team and has "recommended" him to us...thats all the news i have at the moment other than Arter is supposedly close but we all know that already
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
Quote from: junior white on July 31, 2019, 03:11:51 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PMBreed scouting for us know as well cool. Ayer could not get in the Celtic team, wasnt even one of their top 4 centre backs, was loaned out to Kilmarnock, not knocking him per say but the last centre back we signed from a mid table Scottish team didn't turn out too well for us
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Quote from: Hoppus on July 31, 2019, 03:22:25 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Ajer would be great! Tall and strong (197 cm). He played and scored in their first CL game this season.
He is a regular in the Norwegian national team.
He remind me of Brede!
Do you know if the Kahns want him?
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Quote from: ealex40 on July 31, 2019, 03:18:16 PMQuote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
I seem to remember that we sold Jozabed for 5 million pounds and made a profit over what he cost.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 03:44:24 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Didn't Brede recommend a donkey to us in January?😋
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 03:56:10 PMQuote from: ealex40 on July 31, 2019, 03:18:16 PMQuote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
I seem to remember that we sold Jozabed for 5 million pounds and made a profit over what he cost.
Fees are undisclosed so who knows.
According to transfermarkt we bought him for £3.6m and sold him for £3.15m so lost £450k plus his wages for a year (£1.5m?)
Not terrible I suppose but the point is, it doesn't seem to make sense to refuse to pay an expensive loan fee for Pereira (surely not more than £2m?) early in the window when we were throwing £12m around later on some absolutely shocking signings
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:05:35 PMQuote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 03:56:10 PMQuote from: ealex40 on July 31, 2019, 03:18:16 PMQuote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
I seem to remember that we sold Jozabed for 5 million pounds and made a profit over what he cost.
Fees are undisclosed so who knows.
According to transfermarkt we bought him for £3.6m and sold him for £3.15m so lost £450k plus his wages for a year (£1.5m?)
Not terrible I suppose but the point is, it doesn't seem to make sense to refuse to pay an expensive loan fee for Pereira (surely not more than £2m?) early in the window when we were throwing £12m around later on some absolutely shocking signings
We both know that 12m came from selling McCormack in early August and that funded Jozabed, Sigurdsson, Kebano and Johansen in the later part of the window. It's not like we had it in the bank in June.
Quote from: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:12:25 PM
I know they have champions league, for a short time anyway but the championship a step down from Scottish football? You're having a laugh😂
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 04:16:48 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:05:35 PMQuote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 03:56:10 PMQuote from: ealex40 on July 31, 2019, 03:18:16 PMQuote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 AMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
Tony also mentioned there have been times where previously we could have spent out early on Man utds Pereira, and he was getting stick for not doing that...but then because we held out till later, for the same money, he was able to bring in Piazon and one more ( I think it was stefjo but may be wrong) ... ultimately both contributed to our promotion massively.
Hmmm, that doesn't make any sense at all. That was the window we blew £12m on Jozabed, Sigurdsson and Kebano in the last couple of weeks of the window, signings which at worst demonstrated terrible judgment, or if you're being generous, players who may have been talented but weren't given time to adjust to English football due to the late timing of their transfers.
We also signed Chris Martin on a last-minute loan after other striker deals fell through.
We were poor until November and ultimately didn't get promoted.
I'm not sure there's ever been a better impression in the history of football of a headless chicken with a beak full of money, cluelessly scrambling to sign some more players before the window shuts.
I seem to remember that we sold Jozabed for 5 million pounds and made a profit over what he cost.
Fees are undisclosed so who knows.
According to transfermarkt we bought him for £3.6m and sold him for £3.15m so lost £450k plus his wages for a year (£1.5m?)
Not terrible I suppose but the point is, it doesn't seem to make sense to refuse to pay an expensive loan fee for Pereira (surely not more than £2m?) early in the window when we were throwing £12m around later on some absolutely shocking signings
We both know that 12m came from selling McCormack in early August and that funded Jozabed, Sigurdsson, Kebano and Johansen in the later part of the window. It's not like we had it in the bank in June.
We knew there was big interest in McCormack in May, probably earlier
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-news-digest-reported-11399896
Quote from: Tabby on July 31, 2019, 04:18:50 PMQuote from: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:12:25 PM
I know they have champions league, for a short time anyway but the championship a step down from Scottish football? You're having a laugh😂
Moussa Dembele saw it as a step up. What we think isn't really relevant to what a footballer would think. Malcolm (who we were trying to sign last year) is currently moving to Zenit St Petersburg rather than Everton as they have Champion's League football.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PMBreed Hangerland has just denied this on Twitter.
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 03:26:37 PMQuote from: Hoppus on July 31, 2019, 03:22:25 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Ajer would be great! Tall and strong (197 cm). He played and scored in their first CL game this season.
He is a regular in the Norwegian national team.
He remind me of Brede!
Do you know if the Kahns want him?
Do we know if he wants to drop down to championship? Not to be too harsh on Scottish football but he is getting CL football etc.
Quote from: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:28:32 PMDet stemmer ikke. Translation it's not true.Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PMBreed Hangerland has just denied this on Twitter.
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Quote from: f321ffc on July 31, 2019, 04:28:32 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 03:02:33 PMBreed Hangerland has just denied this on Twitter.
so the same mate that told me when i broke Knockart on here has told me that Brede has recommended Kristoffer Ajer to us from Celtic...
Quote from: colinwhite on July 31, 2019, 02:05:14 PMAfter the 25000th post saying the same thing, it gets a bit mindnumbing.
Agreed. Venting frustration at TK at every turn is very tedious !
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:27:08 PM
Jokanovic was talking about building the team around him in May as well. You can't think it's a coincidence that we happened to spend the exact amount we got for McCormack after we sold him.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
After his tweet, we can discredit that ITK agent then can't we.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
After his tweet, we can discredit that ITK agent then can't we.
Quote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 05:02:27 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
After his tweet, we can discredit that ITK agent then can't we.
yup if you like - not going to bite
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 04:53:41 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:27:08 PM
Jokanovic was talking about building the team around him in May as well. You can't think it's a coincidence that we happened to spend the exact amount we got for McCormack after we sold him.
So what are you suggesting the chronology might have been?
Aston Villa et al offer £10m for McCormack in May and we say no.
We enquire about Pereira in June but can't afford the £2m loan fee.
Then Villa increase their offer to £12m in August so we accept it.
Suddenly we have £12m and spunk it on Jozabed, Kebano and Sigurdsson in the last week of the window.
Sorry but if so, that just sounds like, as usual, we suffered because no one at FFC attached any time-sensitivity to transfers.
Haggling over an extra couple of million for McCormack or a million less for Pereira, where did it get us?
A bunch of overpriced foreigners brought in too late to adapt to English football, and an embarrassing 11th hour loan deal for Chris Martin.
We would have been better off accepting a lower offer for McCormack and getting all the business (outward and inward) done in June/July.
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 05:17:38 PM
Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 05:17:38 PM
Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.
Quote from: Roberty on July 31, 2019, 05:23:47 PMThink this might be a sheQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 05:17:38 PM
Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.
Was he a Fulham Academy graduate ?
BREAKING NEWS
Toni Duggan is joining Spanish league champions Atletico Madrid on a two-year contract.
The 28-year-old England international left Barcelona earlier this summer, after spending two years with the Catalan club, helping them to last season's Champions League final.
Duggan has previously played for Everton and Manchester City and has registered 22 goals in 75 international appearances.
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2019, 04:53:41 PMQuote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2019, 04:27:08 PM
Jokanovic was talking about building the team around him in May as well. You can't think it's a coincidence that we happened to spend the exact amount we got for McCormack after we sold him.
So what are you suggesting the chronology might have been?
Aston Villa et al offer £10m for McCormack in May and we say no.
We enquire about Pereira in June but can't afford the £2m loan fee.
Then Villa increase their offer to £12m in August so we accept it.
Suddenly we have £12m and spunk it on Jozabed, Kebano and Sigurdsson in the last week of the window.
Sorry but if so, that just sounds like, as usual, we suffered because no one at FFC attached any time-sensitivity to transfers.
Haggling over an extra couple of million for McCormack or a million less for Pereira, where did it get us?
A bunch of overpriced foreigners brought in too late to adapt to English football, and an embarrassing 11th hour loan deal for Chris Martin.
We would have been better off accepting a lower offer for McCormack and getting all the business (outward and inward) done in June/July.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 05:09:14 PMQuote from: LVBPT on July 31, 2019, 05:02:27 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
After his tweet, we can discredit that ITK agent then can't we.
yup if you like - not going to bite
Only kidding :003: as always, appreciate passing on what you heard. Slow work day
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 06:40:42 PM
Oh well another blank day.
I'm off for an early night,nudge me if anything happens....💤💤💤💤💤💤💤
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻
Quote from: BernieBoy on July 31, 2019, 08:53:09 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻
Hasn't played a lot of football recently, but I'd certainly take Dann. Think we need someone a bit younger, fitter and quicker.
The one thing I've noticed the last few days is there being no rumours to us linked to players, which is a bit disappointing. Nice to speculate over who we may or may not get with links in the press.
Quote from: BernieBoy on July 31, 2019, 08:53:09 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻
Hasn't played a lot of football recently, but I'd certainly take Dann. Think we need someone a bit younger, fitter and quicker.
The one thing I've noticed the last few days is there being no rumours to us linked to players, which is a bit disappointing. Nice to speculate over who we may or may not get with links in the press.
Quote from: GJB on July 31, 2019, 08:58:19 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻
Dann is 32 now and only played 660 minutes last season in the prem - about 7.5 games. Firstly, he's old and would mean we'd be looking for a replacement within a year or two and also if we're purchasing a new player, wouldn't we rather somebody who had played the entirety of last season for their club? Or were you suggesting we buy him as purely a back-up?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 09:34:42 PM
Welsh News saying 10 million bid in for Cardiff keeper Neil Etheridge,from another Championship side.
Us I wonder.
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 09:33:17 PMprobably on our short list then!Quote from: GJB on July 31, 2019, 08:58:19 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻
Dann is 32 now and only played 660 minutes last season in the prem - about 7.5 games. Firstly, he's old and would mean we'd be looking for a replacement within a year or two and also if we're purchasing a new player, wouldn't we rather somebody who had played the entirety of last season for their club? Or were you suggesting we buy him as purely a back-up?
He had an injury last season
Quote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 09:33:17 PMQuote from: GJB on July 31, 2019, 08:58:19 PMQuote from: Riversider on July 31, 2019, 08:44:50 PM
One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻
Dann is 32 now and only played 660 minutes last season in the prem - about 7.5 games. Firstly, he's old and would mean we'd be looking for a replacement within a year or two and also if we're purchasing a new player, wouldn't we rather somebody who had played the entirety of last season for their club? Or were you suggesting we buy him as purely a back-up?
He had an injury last season
Quote from: colinwhite on July 31, 2019, 02:05:14 PM
Agreed. Venting frustration at TK at every turn is very tedious !
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2019, 09:34:42 PM
Welsh News saying 10 million bid in for Cardiff keeper Neil Etheridge,from another Championship side.
Us I wonder.
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
Quote from: Nero on July 31, 2019, 11:57:04 PM
would have thought it may be Leeds as Burnley have put a bid in for Peacock-Farrell
oh and why havent we signed Joe Hart yet
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Quote from: Twig on August 01, 2019, 08:50:12 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Err, he is in my world.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 01, 2019, 08:53:46 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Take Betts any day, don't need Etheridge, don't want Etheridge.
Quote from: Twig on August 01, 2019, 08:50:12 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Err, he is in my world.
Quote from: Fulham76 on August 01, 2019, 09:11:32 AMQuote from: Twig on August 01, 2019, 08:50:12 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Err, he is in my world.
They're both decent but Betts more than capable. I don't think it's an area we need to be spending £10m & showing no significant improvement.
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle. Stoke is interested but it's too much for them.
Is it a good price for such a striker? Him and Mitro would be deadly in 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 system. I think WBA used him also in 4-3-3 as winger but it's obviously not optimal option. Nevertheless, he scored 24 goals last season.
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle. Stoke is interested but it's too much for them.
Is it a good price for such a striker? Him and Mitro would be deadly in 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 system. I think WBA used him also in 4-3-3 as winger but it's obviously not optimal option. Nevertheless, he scored 24 goals last season.
Quote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AMQuote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.
I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.
Quote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Club Statement at 2pm.
Fulham have completed their business for this window.😋
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Club Statement at 2pm.
Fulham have completed their business for this window.😋
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Quote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AMQuote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.
Unless we manage to shift Rui Fonte I suspect we won't be signing another striker.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:41:58 AMQuote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AMQuote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.
Unless we manage to shift Rui Fonte I suspect we won't be signing another striker.
Honestly, with pace around him, I don't mind Fonte as backup. I'd have Kamara in front of him though as that pace up top would be ridiculous.
Quote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 12:03:05 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:41:58 AMQuote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AMQuote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.
Unless we manage to shift Rui Fonte I suspect we won't be signing another striker.
Honestly, with pace around him, I don't mind Fonte as backup. I'd have Kamara in front of him though as that pace up top would be ridiculous.
It wouldn't be the worst, but I just can't see what Fonte adds as a lone striker. Agree about Kamara though.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AMExactly, you cant base performance on goals per game. It has to be based on shots. For instance you could go a few games with very few shots and others where you are peppered.Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PMIn no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.
Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.
Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.
Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.
Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:38:17 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Club Statement at 2pm.
Fulham have completed their business for this window.😋
Is this one of your veiled joke statements or is there truth to it.....
Quote from: Nero on August 01, 2019, 12:07:19 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.
Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.
Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Theres only one way to settle this argument get - ask TK and what ever he says is wrong
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.
Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.
Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Quote from: the nutflush on August 01, 2019, 12:28:13 PM
Can we please have a frikkin trade rumour!!!!
Quote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 01, 2019, 12:46:31 PMhave we even been linked with these 2, or is this just a wish listQuote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion
+1
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.
Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.
Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.
Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.
Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey? :doh:
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.
Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.
Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey? :doh:
Well, not in relation to distribution or save %
Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AMWe are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AMQuote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.
I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.
But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.
Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.
Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.
Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey? :doh:
Well, not in relation to distribution or save %
Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PMQuote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AMWe are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AMQuote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.
I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.
But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.
Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
Quote from: Jeroen on August 01, 2019, 01:33:06 PMQuote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PMQuote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AMWe are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AMQuote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.
I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.
But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.
Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
How about the guy we signed from Chelsea for a free for the U23 - He seemed lie a good prospect, can he be an understudy at some point during the season?
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:28:25 PMQuote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.
Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.
Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey? :doh:
Well, not in relation to distribution or save %
Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.
Save % of what though?
If I save 90% of shots from 45 yards am I better keeper than you if you save 10% of shots from 6 yards.
If you have a better defence infront of you restricting chances to shots that are less likely to be dangerous then yes I'd say it makes a big difference.
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PMQuote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AMWe are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.
But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.
Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 01, 2019, 12:53:08 PMWe have been linked to both of those two, Hector has been linked since May.Quote from: BernieBoy on August 01, 2019, 12:46:31 PMhave we even been linked with these 2, or is this just a wish listQuote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion
+1
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:44:13 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:28:25 PMQuote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AMQuote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.
Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.
Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.
Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.
Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey? :doh:
Well, not in relation to distribution or save %
Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.
Save % of what though?
If I save 90% of shots from 45 yards am I better keeper than you if you save 10% of shots from 6 yards.
If you have a better defence infront of you restricting chances to shots that are less likely to be dangerous then yes I'd say it makes a big difference.
IMO that reasoning is very questionable. You're assuming that when teams can't easily penetrate the Cardiff defence, they just give up and shoot aimlessly from 20 or 30 yrds out. Not sure it works like that. Also the problem with our "defence" is commonly blamed on players in midfield and attack not doing their defensive duties further up the field - doesn't that mean the difference between us and Cardiff was that we were giving the opposition more space in areas 20 or 30 yrds (or more) out? We weren't necessarily worse in and around the 6-yard box.
In any case, the difference in Betts' and Etheridge's respective save percentages is greater than the difference between the quality of the defences in front of them. Cardiff were almost as crap as us and conceded 69 goals to our 81. Betts would need a save rate of about 57% to be as good as Etheridge allowing for how much better their defence was.
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 03:03:03 PM
a goalkeepers save percentage of saving those shots is in part effected by how good the goal scoring chance is which is effected by how good the defence is
Quote from: Jeroen on August 01, 2019, 01:33:06 PMdont see why not, obviously you will get naysayers on here in the same way that there was for when dembele burst onto the scene. I'm sure someone can find out, but I think crossdale has actually got a better scoring record than dembele had for youth teamsQuote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PMQuote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AMWe are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AMQuote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.
I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.
But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.
Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
How about the guy we signed from Chelsea for a free for the U23 - He seemed lie a good prospect, can he be an understudy at some point during the season?
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 03:33:07 PM
To reiterate, I don't think you can infer from a team being poor defensively, that their GK faces a higher proportion (proportion, not number) of shots from close range or easier angles.
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 04:24:47 PMQuote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 03:33:07 PM
To reiterate, I don't think you can infer from a team being poor defensively, that their GK faces a higher proportion (proportion, not number) of shots from close range or easier angles.
But I haven't said that. You've made that assumption.
I've only said that you can't use save percentage alone to judge two goal keepers against each other.
Quote from: Jeroen on August 01, 2019, 04:41:57 PMWe are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 04:35:28 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 04:24:47 PMQuote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 03:33:07 PM
To reiterate, I don't think you can infer from a team being poor defensively, that their GK faces a higher proportion (proportion, not number) of shots from close range or easier angles.
But I haven't said that. You've made that assumption.
I've only said that you can't use save percentage alone to judge two goal keepers against each other.
So in your opinion, is there any reason to believe that Bettinelli faced a higher proportion of shots from close range than Etheridge?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 01, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Can't you start a new thread on blooming keeper stats?
Blimey!
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 07:40:19 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on August 01, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Can't you start a new thread on blooming keeper stats?
Blimey!
064.gif. You have to love the transfer rumour thread becuase it is anything but 064.gif
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 06:56:47 PMFFS this is painful. So in your opinion, is there any reason to believe Bettinelli's saves were from higher quality chances than Etheridge's saves?Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 04:35:28 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 04:24:47 PMQuote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 03:33:07 PM
To reiterate, I don't think you can infer from a team being poor defensively, that their GK faces a higher proportion (proportion, not number) of shots from close range or easier angles.
But I haven't said that. You've made that assumption.
I've only said that you can't use save percentage alone to judge two goal keepers against each other.
So in your opinion, is there any reason to believe that Bettinelli faced a higher proportion of shots from close range than Etheridge?
Firstly, that's not the point is it. I'm talking about the quality of chances faced. Distance is simply one metric of that and is the easiest metric to measure (pardon the pun).
Secondly, Cardiff faced 36% of shots from outside the box. Fulham faced 34% of shots from outside the box.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on August 01, 2019, 06:02:54 PM
An in-depth look at the signings already made, as well as looking at potential players to sign before the Deadline (and more).
https://t.co/RVtTqUTQvD?amp=1
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 07:53:14 PM
I will treat the save percentage as compelling evidence that Etheridge is (or played) better than Bettinelli, but not conclusive proof thereof.
In the same way that if a team had 90% of possession in a match and 40 shots on target, I'd treat that as compelling evidence that they dominated the match...
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 09:19:50 PMQuote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 07:53:14 PM
I will treat the save percentage as compelling evidence that Etheridge is (or played) better than Bettinelli, but not conclusive proof thereof.
In the same way that if a team had 90% of possession in a match and 40 shots on target, I'd treat that as compelling evidence that they dominated the match...
Your comparison between Bettinelli and Etheridge is nowhere near as compelling as your imaginary match statistics, of course, and I would hesitate to use the word 'compelling' at all - for the reason that the 40 shots Bettinelli faced last season is a relatively small number for a 'save percentage' analysis.
Taking in a broader picture, I note that, in 2017-18, Etheridge conceded 37 goals in 45 Championship games. Marcus played 29 matches (including the play-offs) and conceded 20 goals. Nothing in this statistic that compels me to recommend Etheridge over Bettinelli.
I'm not trying to argue that Bettinelli is the better of the two - merely that, based on the information I have, the difference is not as evident as you are claiming.
Quote from: hovewhite on August 01, 2019, 09:50:06 PM
All this chat,no activity!
Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 09:40:13 PMQuote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 09:19:50 PMQuote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 07:53:14 PM
I will treat the save percentage as compelling evidence that Etheridge is (or played) better than Bettinelli, but not conclusive proof thereof.
In the same way that if a team had 90% of possession in a match and 40 shots on target, I'd treat that as compelling evidence that they dominated the match...
Your comparison between Bettinelli and Etheridge is nowhere near as compelling as your imaginary match statistics, of course, and I would hesitate to use the word 'compelling' at all - for the reason that the 40 shots Bettinelli faced last season is a relatively small number for a 'save percentage' analysis.
Taking in a broader picture, I note that, in 2017-18, Etheridge conceded 37 goals in 45 Championship games. Marcus played 29 matches (including the play-offs) and conceded 20 goals. Nothing in this statistic that compels me to recommend Etheridge over Bettinelli.
I'm not trying to argue that Bettinelli is the better of the two - merely that, based on the information I have, the difference is not as evident as you are claiming.
A debate about semantics - Yaaaaawn 094.gif
Just how "evident" do you think I'm claiming the difference is? (And perhaps for context you should look at my comment in my original post that "FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge") Is it really worth arguing about?
Unless you're claiming the save percentage stats referred to by Facts Not Fiction are entirely insignificant, then WTF are we debating here - the meaning of the word "compelling"? Where exactly these stats sit on the spectrum between "not evident" and "conclusively proven"?
Surely on this forum you can find something better to debate than that. If it helps, I wrote some deliberately provocative posts about language on the Gareth Bale thread this afternoon. Surely they'll represent a bigger, better divergence from your personal opinions and something we can have a proper argument about.
Quote from: David I on August 01, 2019, 11:31:18 PM
Anyone think TK has just folded his arms, Pouted, while thinking "if those plebs don't appreciate my expertise, I'm just not going to sign anyone and I'm going to Sqweem and Sqweem and sqweem" 😆🤣😂
Quote from: The Rock on August 01, 2019, 11:45:35 PMQuote from: David I on August 01, 2019, 11:31:18 PM
Anyone think TK has just folded his arms, Pouted, while thinking "if those plebs don't appreciate my expertise, I'm just not going to sign anyone and I'm going to Sqweem and Sqweem and sqweem" 😆🤣😂
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Quote from: southwest6 on August 02, 2019, 11:03:47 AM
What's going on with Sess then? Run down the contract and leave for free next summer?
And will he play tomorrow?
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 02, 2019, 01:27:53 PM
Ah but does he meet the STATS!!!!!! There is still time.
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.
Quote from: brightster on August 02, 2019, 01:51:56 PMQuote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.
Has never played for Arsenal, was on loan at Charlton last year, 10million for a player who is 21 and has only played 41 senior (Birmingham 10 Charlton 31) games in 2 years, thank god we didn't go for him!
What with the Bristol City CB going to Brighton for 20 million the money is well out of hand for these players.
Quote from: brightster on August 02, 2019, 01:51:56 PMQuote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.
Has never played for Arsenal, was on loan at Charlton last year, 10million for a player who is 21 and has only played 41 senior (Birmingham 10 Charlton 31) games in 2 years, thank god we didn't go for him!
What with the Bristol City CB going to Brighton for 20 million the money is well out of hand for these players.
Quote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK
Quote from: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 02:51:13 PMQuote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK
Selling their top scorer and best CB. Strange business.
Quote from: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 02:51:13 PMQuote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK
Selling their top scorer and best CB. Strange business.
Quote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 03:05:37 PMQuote from: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 02:51:13 PMQuote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK
Selling their top scorer and best CB. Strange business.
Thats FFP and Roofe was entering the last year of his contract so whether or not he wouldnt sign a new one or wanted to much money I dont know
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647
Quote from: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PMthank God you are not in charge of our transfers then, he is a fantastic centre backQuote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647
I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 04:12:05 PMQuote from: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PMthank God you are not in charge of our transfers then, he is a fantastic centre backQuote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647
I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi.
Quote from: twang on August 02, 2019, 03:09:46 PMQuote from: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 02:51:13 PMQuote from: Nero on August 02, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Kemar Roofe leeds top goalscorer last season to join Anderlecht, Think the Leeds fans are blaming TK
Selling their top scorer and best CB. Strange business.
Bailey Peacock-Farrell gone to Burnley now as well. Could this perhaps mean that they have the cash to bring in Gayle?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 01:58:59 PMQuote from: brightster on August 02, 2019, 01:51:56 PMQuote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.
Has never played for Arsenal, was on loan at Charlton last year, 10million for a player who is 21 and has only played 41 senior (Birmingham 10 Charlton 31) games in 2 years, thank god we didn't go for him!
What with the Bristol City CB going to Brighton for 20 million the money is well out of hand for these players.Quote from: brightster on August 02, 2019, 01:51:56 PMQuote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Derby have signed Kristian Bielik a CB who can pay in DM, from Arsenal for £7.5 mil.Surely this is one we could have been interested in.
Has never played for Arsenal, was on loan at Charlton last year, 10million for a player who is 21 and has only played 41 senior (Birmingham 10 Charlton 31) games in 2 years, thank god we didn't go for him!
What with the Bristol City CB going to Brighton for 20 million the money is well out of hand for these players.
21 and a top prospect.
Was backbone of Charlton promotion side.
In today's prices I'd say what they paid about right.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 05:35:10 PM
Well I suppose nothing will happen over this weekend.
So we got 5 days next week and that's it.
I think Parker is going with the centre backs we already have.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 02, 2019, 04:17:29 PMeveryone seems to be massively over paying at the moment. Apart from when we sell players that isQuote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 04:12:05 PMQuote from: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PMthank God you are not in charge of our transfers then, he is a fantastic centre backQuote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647
I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi.
Very good centre back but they've massively overpaid.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 05:45:37 PMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 02, 2019, 04:17:29 PMeveryone seems to be massively over paying at the moment. Apart from when we sell players that isQuote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 04:12:05 PMQuote from: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PMthank God you are not in charge of our transfers then, he is a fantastic centre backQuote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647
I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi.
Very good centre back but they've massively overpaid.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2019, 05:35:10 PM
Well I suppose nothing will happen over this weekend.
So we got 5 days next week and that's it.
I think Parker is going with the centre backs we already have.
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2019, 06:10:11 PMI think Ben is talking about the fact that we seem a soft touch in a few cases!Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 05:45:37 PMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 02, 2019, 04:17:29 PMeveryone seems to be massively over paying at the moment. Apart from when we sell players that isQuote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2019, 04:12:05 PMQuote from: Statto on August 02, 2019, 04:07:11 PMthank God you are not in charge of our transfers then, he is a fantastic centre backQuote from: sunburywhite on August 02, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Man Utd agree £80m deal for Leicester defender
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48989647
I will give everyone a break from the TK bashing and say, quite confidently, that this transfer is at least 5x worse than anything we've done in the last few years. I would honestly rather have Denis Odoi.
Very good centre back but they've massively overpaid.
Remind me who we have sold this window.
Quote from: Tabby on August 02, 2019, 06:48:08 PM
Given what people on here keep arguing, anything more than £10 million for Sess would be them massively overpaying.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 02, 2019, 07:46:15 PMgot to feel sorry for spurs if they sign sessignion for 30 million, if they think he is a defender.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7315605/Tottenham-close-30m-capture-Fulham-defender-Sessegnon-talks-continue-Fernandes.html
Quote from: mkras99 on August 02, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7315605/Tottenham-close-30m-capture-Fulham-defender-Sessegnon-talks-continue-Fernandes.html
Quote from: mkras99 on August 02, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7315605/Tottenham-close-30m-capture-Fulham-defender-Sessegnon-talks-continue-Fernandes.html
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 02, 2019, 06:45:26 PM
I think Ben is talking about the fact that we seem a soft touch in a few cases!
For example, spuds waiting until the last minute, as per usual, to get a sale price!
In this years case- Sess..... we want 40ish mill and they are only prepared to offer 15-20, apparently!
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 02, 2019, 10:24:37 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on August 02, 2019, 06:45:26 PM
I think Ben is talking about the fact that we seem a soft touch in a few cases!
For example, spuds waiting until the last minute, as per usual, to get a sale price!
In this years case- Sess..... we want 40ish mill and they are only prepared to offer 15-20, apparently!
Wouldn't it be better to use an actual example of us being a soft touch, rather than one that is as far as we know just made up?
Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.
Quote from: Number Six on August 02, 2019, 11:34:38 PMQuote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.
Would bite their hands off.
Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 02, 2019, 11:45:06 PMUnited paid us £12m for Smalling and have had 9 years service from him, perhaps they could return him free of charge.
I'm still curious what's in Manchester United's plans for Axel Tuanzebe...and what are his plans for his future at United.
Maguire
Lindeloff
Smalling
Jones
Tuanzebe can even play at RB....decent size. There are better CBs out there...but maybe United would feel they owe us for Fosu Mensah and would do a loan with option to buy...hoping.
Anyway...who didn't already know Scott Parker wanted to keep Ryan. The hammy pull was a blessing in disguise.
Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2019, 11:12:39 AMLast season Chambers made it clear that his ambition for this season was to secure a place in the Arsenal first team. I think we can forget all about him.Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
Some are saying Callum Chambers not in Arsenal's plans & could go for £12M. Appears a decent price.
Sadly I dont think that's true. Apparently hes played more minutes than any other player in pre-season friendlies. A lot of Arsenal fans think it's a big season for him, & Emery sees him as midfield & defensive cover
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 03, 2019, 12:32:37 PM
Fulhams Tayo Edun in advanced talks to join Shrewsbury.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 02, 2019, 11:45:06 PM
I'm still curious what's in Manchester United's plans for Axel Tuanzebe...and what are his plans for his future at United.
Maguire
Lindeloff
Smalling
Jones
Tuanzebe can even play at RB....decent size. There are better CBs out there...but maybe United would feel they owe us for Fosu Mensah and would do a loan with option to buy...hoping.
Anyway...who didn't already know Scott Parker wanted to keep Ryan. The hammy pull was a blessing in disguise.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 03, 2019, 03:00:58 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on August 02, 2019, 11:45:06 PM
I'm still curious what's in Manchester United's plans for Axel Tuanzebe...and what are his plans for his future at United.
Maguire
Lindeloff
Smalling
Jones
Tuanzebe can even play at RB....decent size. There are better CBs out there...but maybe United would feel they owe us for Fosu Mensah and would do a loan with option to buy...hoping.
Anyway...who didn't already know Scott Parker wanted to keep Ryan. The hammy pull was a blessing in disguise.
Would have him in a heartbeat, but I fear he would only go out on loan, if at all.
He would appear to be the future of Utd's defense. They had a problem in that he is too young to lead from CB. So they'e been after a leader at the back for a few seasons now and have finally found it in McQuire. So I would expect Tauanzebe to fit in along side and that's them sorted for a few years to come.
Shame as he has great potential.
Quote from: Hoppus on August 03, 2019, 10:42:45 PM
Anyone remember the name of the African CB we almost got over the line on deadline day last january?
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 03, 2019, 10:44:33 PMQuote from: Hoppus on August 03, 2019, 10:42:45 PM
Anyone remember the name of the African CB we almost got over the line on deadline day last january?
Youssouf Sabaly. A rb that can play lb. Saw him in the ACN and he looked very good. He'll not come here now.
Quote from: junior white on August 03, 2019, 11:06:40 PM
Do you mean ngudu ngudu big guy playing in Russia or the Chech league that came over but never finalised?
Quote from: absenteeism on August 04, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
I think we need a new left back, a new right back, a new center half and a tireless defensive mid.
What do you think we need?
Quote from: absenteeism on August 04, 2019, 11:13:56 AMWell we are not going to get four new quality players in the next four days, based on yesterday's performance we need a goal poacher as not scoring a single goal is a major problem especially when Mitrovic is not looking good.
I think we need a new left back, a new right back, a new center half and a tireless defensive mid.
What do you think we need?
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PMQuote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF
We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.
Quote from: absenteeism on August 04, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
I think we need a new left back, a new right back, a new center half and a tireless defensive mid.
What do you think we need?
Quote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:39:10 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PMQuote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF
We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.
But if we don't go back up then we will not exercise the option. The loans go back and so we are into another rebuilding and more upheaval. This club needs some stability and consistency. The recruitment policy does not provide it. Little wonder yesterday was such a shambles
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:54:26 PMQuote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:39:10 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PMQuote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF
We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.
But if we don't go back up then we will not exercise the option. The loans go back and so we are into another rebuilding and more upheaval. This club needs some stability and consistency. The recruitment policy does not provide it. Little wonder yesterday was such a shambles
If we don't go up, it's because the management has been poor.
Yesterday was a shambles because of Parker, not because of the recruitment policy.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:54:26 PMQuote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:39:10 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PMQuote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF
We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.
But if we don't go back up then we will not exercise the option. The loans go back and so we are into another rebuilding and more upheaval. This club needs some stability and consistency. The recruitment policy does not provide it. Little wonder yesterday was such a shambles
If we don't go up, it's because the management has been poor.
Yesterday was a shambles because of Parker, not because of the recruitment policy.
Quote from: grandad on August 04, 2019, 02:16:24 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:54:26 PMQuote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:39:10 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2019, 01:32:56 PMQuote from: SG on August 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
Glad to see they're true to their word and placing less reliance on loan deals this time having been too reliant in past seasons according to the DOF
We've learnt our lesson. Every deal, including Arter, has an option to buy.
But if we don't go back up then we will not exercise the option. The loans go back and so we are into another rebuilding and more upheaval. This club needs some stability and consistency. The recruitment policy does not provide it. Little wonder yesterday was such a shambles
If we don't go up, it's because the management has been poor.
Yesterday was a shambles because of Parker, not because of the recruitment policy.
So who would you have played to prevent the "shambles"? What would you have done differently? For me SP having to play McDonald & Johansen as he didn´t have anyone else for these positions. That is not Parkers fault.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 04, 2019, 12:59:14 PM
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2019/08/fulham-in-battle-for-carter-vickers/
Fulham are among a clutch of Championship clubs chasing Tottenham defender Cameron Carter-Vickers, according to a report this morning.
Spurs are ready to allow the American centre back, who has had loan spells with Sheffield United, Ipswich Town and Swansea City over the past three years, to leave White Hart Lane on loan again to gain further first-team football. Fulham are eager to add to their defensive options after Alfie Mawson's injury scare last week and yesterday's disappointing defeat on the opening day at Barnsley.
Scott Parker will face stiff competition in trying to bring in the centre half from Tottenham, where he spent a season coaching their under-18 side. Leeds, West Brom, Derby, Middlesbrough, Luton and Barnsley are reportedly all interested in bringing in Carter-Vickers, who made 30 appearances for Swansea last season in the Championship.
The 21 year-old, who has won eight international caps for the United States, has made four first-team appearances for Spurs, all of which came in domestic Cup competitions.
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.
This according to The Daily Mail this morning
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.
This according to The Daily Mail this morning
We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 05, 2019, 01:47:25 AM
Spurs are going to take a player recovering from a hamstring injury without watching his performance?
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Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.
This according to The Daily Mail this morning
We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 03:09:55 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.
This according to The Daily Mail this morning
We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.
Such as ?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 07:12:06 AM
Loan Loan Loan......Get the bleedin chequebook out and get a top centre back....😠
Quote from: @jolslover on August 05, 2019, 07:32:25 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 07:12:06 AM
Loan Loan Loan......Get the bleedin chequebook out and get a top centre back....😠
Do you know how much we are paying Cavaleiro and Knockaert a week?
Two of the highest paid players in the league I'm sure and I suspect Arter will be aswell .. Harsh to complain were not spending anything
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Every player gets paid.
We need a proper centre back...NOW
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:28:41 AM
First new link of the day is Danierl Amartey. Sheff Utd also pursuing him. Can play CM, CB and RB. Think of a Fosu-Mensah type player.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 08:14:12 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 05, 2019, 07:32:25 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 07:12:06 AM
Loan Loan Loan......Get the bleedin chequebook out and get a top centre back....😠
Do you know how much we are paying Cavaleiro and Knockaert a week?
Two of the highest paid players in the league I'm sure and I suspect Arter will be aswell .. Harsh to complain were not spending anything
[/quote
Every player gets paid.
We need a proper centre back...NOW
I've got no problem with loans to buy. Its the best for the club to try before spending big bucks further down the line.
Loans without an option i do have a problem with.
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.
This according to The Daily Mail this morning
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 05, 2019, 09:42:35 AMThere probably wouldn't be a fee involved if that is the case.
OM want Fulham's Ryan Sessegnon according to La Provence
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 05, 2019, 09:42:35 AM
OM want Fulham's Ryan Sessegnon according to La Provence
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 09:43:26 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on August 05, 2019, 09:42:35 AMThere probably wouldn't be a fee involved if that is the case.
OM want Fulham's Ryan Sessegnon according to La Provence
We would just wipe out the debt we owe them for Anguissa
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 03:09:55 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.
This according to The Daily Mail this morning
We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.
Such as ?
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 10:25:16 AMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 03:09:55 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.
This according to The Daily Mail this morning
We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.
Such as ?
Onomah is either an attacking midfielder or a winger, he's pants any deeper.
Cairney, de la torre, johansen, kebano, ayite, cavaliero, Knockaert, O'reilly are all easily better players.
Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 10:25:16 AMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 03:09:55 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Josh Onomah is all set to move to Fulham as part of a £30 million pound deal that sees Ryan Sessegnon make the move across London to Spurs.
This according to The Daily Mail this morning
We have at least 3 or 4 players better than onomah in his best position.
Such as ?
Onomah is either an attacking midfielder or a winger, he's pants any deeper.
Cairney, de la torre, johansen, kebano, ayite, cavaliero, Knockaert, O'reilly are all easily better players.
Quote from: grandad on August 05, 2019, 11:31:44 AMHe would be running at a loss at that rate!
Might consider Andy Carroll on a pay per game deal as he is on a free.He would have to pay his medical treatments though. Bit of competition for Mitro.
Quote from: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS
Tottenham are in talks with Fulham over the signing of Ryan Sessegnon, according to Sky sources.
We understand all parties are hopeful a deal can be completed ahead of Deadline Day.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 01:03:43 PMQuote from: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS
Tottenham are in talks with Fulham over the signing of Ryan Sessegnon, according to Sky sources.
We understand all parties are hopeful a deal can be completed ahead of Deadline Day.
haha. 'Breaking news'
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
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Signing today apparently :dft012:
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 01:03:43 PMQuote from: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS
Tottenham are in talks with Fulham over the signing of Ryan Sessegnon, according to Sky sources.
We understand all parties are hopeful a deal can be completed ahead of Deadline Day.
haha. 'Breaking news'
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
049:gif
Signing today apparently :dft012:
Quote from: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:05:08 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 01:03:43 PMQuote from: Digger on August 05, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS
Tottenham are in talks with Fulham over the signing of Ryan Sessegnon, according to Sky sources.
We understand all parties are hopeful a deal can be completed ahead of Deadline Day.
haha. 'Breaking news'
haha yeah I know we ave known this for a long time, but it just appeared on sky transfer feed
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Scott McKenna has handed in a transfer request at Aberdeen..... Stoke,QPR ready to bid apparently.
He's a Centre Back.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 02:50:45 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Scott McKenna has handed in a transfer request at Aberdeen..... Stoke,QPR ready to bid apparently.
He's a Centre Back.
Any good?
Quote from: grandad on August 05, 2019, 11:31:44 AMi wouldnt mind this tbh, still hoping for other business though
Might consider Andy Carroll on a pay per game deal as he is on a free.He would have to pay his medical treatments though. Bit of competition for Mitro.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 03:01:46 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 02:50:45 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Scott McKenna has handed in a transfer request at Aberdeen..... Stoke,QPR ready to bid apparently.
He's a Centre Back.
Any good?
Apparently rated as good as McLeish was in the Fergie Aberdeen side,and he was good...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 03:01:46 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 02:50:45 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Scott McKenna has handed in a transfer request at Aberdeen..... Stoke,QPR ready to bid apparently.
He's a Centre Back.
Any good?
Apparently rated as good as McLeish was in the Fergie Aberdeen side,and he was good...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PMwasnt they in contention back then though, could have swore they were top of the league, albeit having played more games
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
The only offers this summer have been for £3 million, and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5
Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned, bad news for Fulham if they get him.
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
The only offers this summer have been for £3 million, and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5
Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned, bad news for Fulham if they get him.
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
The only offers this summer have been for £3 million, and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5
Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned, bad news for Fulham if they get him.
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
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Signing today apparently :dft012:
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 05:42:57 PMQuote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
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Signing today apparently :dft012:
Tricker from Watfrod signs
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/august/05/tricker-signs
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PMIt seems as if Spurs have us over a barrel regarding Sess, are there no other interested clubs we can strike a deal with rather than wait for Spurs.Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
The only offers this summer have been for £3 million, and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5
Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned, bad news for Fulham if they get him.
We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra.
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.
Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 05, 2019, 07:10:14 PM
Linked with Daniel Armaty on a few dodgy lookin twitter posts
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
The only offers this summer have been for £3 million, and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5
Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned, bad news for Fulham if they get him.
We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra.
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.
Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 05, 2019, 07:53:03 PMQuote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
The only offers this summer have been for £3 million, and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5
Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned, bad news for Fulham if they get him.
We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra.
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.
Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.
If that's all their offering we should keep him. If he leaves on a free we'll get compensation and should be a good fee.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 05, 2019, 08:18:10 PM
Told you all Levy will get Sess for buttons.
Probably about £10m.
We are a joke club to all.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 05, 2019, 08:18:10 PM
Told you all Levy will get Sess for buttons.
Probably about £10m.
We are a joke club to all.
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
The only offers this summer have been for £3 million, and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5
Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned, bad news for Fulham if they get him.
We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra.
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.
Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:40:16 PMQuote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
The only offers this summer have been for £3 million, and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5
Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned, bad news for Fulham if they get him.
We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra.
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.
Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.
Been reported absolutely nowhere that fee.
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on August 05, 2019, 08:50:27 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:40:16 PMQuote from: Statto on August 05, 2019, 05:16:09 PMQuote from: Riversider on August 05, 2019, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:39:22 PM
They turned down 6 mill in Jan from Villa.
The only offers this summer have been for £3 million, and the player wants to go, hence my £3.5
Whilst on the subject of tips, whoever gets Ryan Kent has made one of the signings of the summer, great player and a great age, Liverpool rumoured to be wanting £7 million which is a steal, Leeds name has been mentioned, bad news for Fulham if they get him.
We can't afford either player until we get the money for Sessegnon.
As it stands, Spurs are offering £13m sor Sess but they'll probably go up to £13.2m if we wait another week.
It would be stupid not to wait considering we stand to gain a whopping £200k extra.
Of course at that point, our rivals will have already signed McKenna and Kent, but we can buy Chema from Spain for £8m instead.
He's injured but will be fit in December and has *fantastic* stats.
Fulham approach to transfer business in a nutshell.
Been reported absolutely nowhere that fee.
Exactly
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 09:09:43 PMQuote from: Spirit of 2000 on August 05, 2019, 08:50:27 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2019, 08:40:16 PM
Been reported absolutely nowhere that fee.
Exactly
I hate it when people try and say things with conviction to make it a fact.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 05, 2019, 05:17:40 PM
I still want Tuanzebe on loan with an option to buy if promoted.
He's not getting minutes at United outside of the odd Caraboa Cup.
Maguire
Lindeloff
Smalling
Jones
All four on good/new deals.
United may prefer loaning him out to an EPL squad (Newcastle), but if I were TK I'd be on the phone yesterday inquiring about bring him to London.
He can play both CB and RB.
Quote from: MrFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
If we reached Thursday & our business was
In
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Cameron Carter-Vickers
Out
Ryan Sessegnon
Fabri
Would fans look at that as a success?
Quote from: MrFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:02:49 AMNo. not even close
If we reached Thursday & our business was
In
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Cameron Carter-Vickers
Out
Ryan Sessegnon
Fabri
Would fans look at that as a success?
Quote from: MrFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
If we reached Thursday & our business was
In
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Cameron Carter-Vickers
Out
Ryan Sessegnon
Fabri
Would fans look at that as a success?
Quote from: MrFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
If we reached Thursday & our business was
In
Harry Arter
Josh Onomah
Cameron Carter-Vickers
Out
Ryan Sessegnon
Fabri
Would fans look at that as a success?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 06:13:32 AMDaniel Schwaab leaves PSV at the end of the season
Daniel Schwaab agent in talks.
Never heard of him,think radio has made it up...lol
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 06:13:32 AM
Daniel Schwaab agent in talks.
Never heard of him,think radio has made it up...lol
Quote from: Hoppus on August 06, 2019, 07:39:38 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 06:13:32 AM
Daniel Schwaab agent in talks.
Never heard of him,think radio has made it up...lol
Source? Would be great if we got him.
Quote from: sarnian on August 05, 2019, 08:12:46 PM
Has the Arter deal brokendown? All gone quiet
Quote from: Chutney on August 06, 2019, 08:49:09 AMQuote from: sarnian on August 05, 2019, 08:12:46 PM
Has the Arter deal brokendown? All gone quiet
Been told we are looking at other options but if they breakdown we will confirm arter
Quote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 08:54:47 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 06, 2019, 08:49:09 AMQuote from: sarnian on August 05, 2019, 08:12:46 PM
Has the Arter deal brokendown? All gone quiet
Been told we are looking at other options but if they breakdown we will confirm arter
Is he not waiting to see if a lower prem club
comes in for him?
Its dragging on.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2019, 08:54:47 AMQuote from: Chutney on August 06, 2019, 08:49:09 AMQuote from: sarnian on August 05, 2019, 08:12:46 PM
Has the Arter deal brokendown? All gone quiet
Been told we are looking at other options but if they breakdown we will confirm arter
Is he not waiting to see if a lower prem club
comes in for him?
Its dragging on.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
False yet again.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
False yet again.
I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
False yet again.
I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.
Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 06, 2019, 08:47:25 AM
How about a few Swedes to fill out the Squad?
Roma are trying to offload their Swedish International GK Robin Olsen, on his way on loan to Montpellier...surely we can compete with that?
https://www.transfermarkt.com/robin-olsen/profil/spieler/75458
Sorry ,none of those would be an upgrade
Back-up Left wing back on a free transfer, Martin Olsson that has spent most of his career in the Championship
https://www.transfermarkt.com/martin-olsson/profil/spieler/38073
John Guidetti as backup Striker, not the best football brain but hard working and built a bit like Mitro. On his way from Alaves on Loan...
https://www.transfermarkt.com/john-guidetti/profil/spieler/98596
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
False yet again.
I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.
Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
False yet again.
I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.
Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?
Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
False yet again.
I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.
Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?
Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2019, 10:42:32 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
False yet again.
I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.
Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?
Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.
Some people on this site really do exaggerate. His record is atrocious? So bad that we got promoted in our last Championship season, and reached the playoffs the year before. Here are some (not all) successful transfers, others may yet prove successful (e.g. Bryan, Mawson):
Scott Malone
Sone Aluko
Tomas Kalas
Stefan Johansen
Kevin McDonald
Floyd Ayite
Lucas Piazon
Matt Targett
Aleksander Mitrovic
Calum Chambers
Too early to judge Cavaleiro or Knockaert of course.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:18:13 AMQuote from: bencher on August 06, 2019, 10:42:32 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
False yet again.
I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.
Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?
Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.
Some people on this site really do exaggerate. His record is atrocious? So bad that we got promoted in our last Championship season, and reached the playoffs the year before. Here are some (not all) successful transfers, others may yet prove successful (e.g. Bryan, Mawson):
Scott Malone
Sone Aluko
Tomas Kalas
Stefan Johansen
Kevin McDonald
Floyd Ayite
Lucas Piazon
Matt Targett
Aleksander Mitrovic
Calum Chambers
Too early to judge Cavaleiro or Knockaert of course.
I don't have the time to look up all the dates so please forgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't Malone, Aluko, Johansen, McDonald and Ayite signed before TK was appointed DoF? I think they were Rigg's signings? Plus Mitro was obviously happening because of Jokanovic.
Then there's of course the others from the previous 2 seasons:
Djalo
Cisse
Fonte
Soares
Graham
Seri
Fabri
Anguissa
Markovic
Schurrle
Fosu-Mensah
Vietto
Nordtveit
Fonte
All of these were either complete failures or not worth anywhere near what we paid for them IMO.
To be fair there were some decent signings for 2017/18 but most of them were loans. TKs big money signings have all been massive disappointments IMO.
Quote from: snarks on August 06, 2019, 11:24:22 AM
Clearly Fonte is rated so badly by you, you've named him twice!!
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 11:20:13 AMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:18:13 AMQuote from: bencher on August 06, 2019, 10:42:32 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 10:35:23 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:38:58 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 09:30:33 AMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2019, 09:13:25 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 06, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Should be noted when signing a free agent now it's likely they would be unfit so wouldn't make an immediate impact
Unfit and no impact, like the majority of the owner sons signings.
False yet again.
I wish I could agree with you, but if I did we would both be wrong.
Shall we list out every TK transfer, and see who was a success and a failure?
Let's us save time and list the ones who were a success. As the failures would take far too long, and many of them are forgotten as they either never ended up playing a game, or very little, as they were shocking signings who we either cannot move on, or were let go, so I don't know which was worse, the financial costs of these failures or the cost on the field of play. His record is atrocious, and unforgivable in the cold light of day.
Some people on this site really do exaggerate. His record is atrocious? So bad that we got promoted in our last Championship season, and reached the playoffs the year before. Here are some (not all) successful transfers, others may yet prove successful (e.g. Bryan, Mawson):
Scott Malone
Sone Aluko
Tomas Kalas
Stefan Johansen
Kevin McDonald
Floyd Ayite
Lucas Piazon
Matt Targett
Aleksander Mitrovic
Calum Chambers
Too early to judge Cavaleiro or Knockaert of course.
I don't have the time to look up all the dates so please forgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't Malone, Aluko, Johansen, McDonald and Ayite signed before TK was appointed DoF? I think they were Rigg's signings? Plus Mitro was obviously happening because of Jokanovic.
Then there's of course the others from the previous 2 seasons:
Djalo
Cisse
Fonte
Soares
Graham
Seri
Fabri
Anguissa
Markovic
Schurrle
Fosu-Mensah
Vietto
Nordtveit
Fonte
All of these were either complete failures or not worth anywhere near what we paid for them IMO.
To be fair there were some decent signings for 2017/18 but most of them were loans. TKs big money signings have all been massive disappointments IMO.
The myth that Mitrovic was all about Slav has been debunked so many times now.....he stated it again on his recent podcast so even me, whose critical of TK give him Mitrovic as a success.
Quote from: colinwhite on August 06, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Why are people still having this debate ? Done,dusted and boring . Odoi was signed byT Khan at least get your facts right !!
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:53:31 AMOffically, but was running the transfer side of things at the time.Quote from: colinwhite on August 06, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Why are people still having this debate ? Done,dusted and boring . Odoi was signed byT Khan at least get your facts right !!
Odoi was signed 14 July 2016
TK was appointed DoF on 23 February 2017
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:04:03 PM
Carl jenkinson going Forest, RB we could have done with
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 06, 2019, 12:11:36 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on August 06, 2019, 12:04:03 PM
Carl jenkinson going Forest, RB we could have done with
He's done very little over the last few years, and despite that will be on decent wages I expect.
Could prove me wrong but don't see him as much of an upgrade on Christie truthfully
Quote from: gang on August 06, 2019, 12:11:31 PMQuote from: snarks on August 06, 2019, 11:24:22 AM
Clearly Fonte is rated so badly by you, you've named him twice!!
Not up to the English game, unbelievably Jol lied to him to get him to sign, he told him that Fulham would be playing in the Champions League; if only he had told him the truth we wouldn't be lumbered with him.
Quote from: grandad on August 06, 2019, 01:06:54 PMIf you create it, they will come...
This Topic page is getting pathetic. If the posters who insist in trading handbags want to carry on I suggest they open a handbag topic all to themselves.
Quote from: twang on August 06, 2019, 01:15:31 PM
Anguissa's purchase option is apparently €25m.
Seri's has previously been stated as €18m.
https://www.elperiodicomediterraneo.com/noticias/deportes/zambo-anguissa-quiero-adaptarme-mas-rapido-posible_1237493.html
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 11:57:22 AMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:53:31 AMOffically, but was running the transfer side of things at the time.Quote from: colinwhite on August 06, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Why are people still having this debate ? Done,dusted and boring . Odoi was signed byT Khan at least get your facts right !!
Odoi was signed 14 July 2016
TK was appointed DoF on 23 February 2017
Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2019, 01:52:04 PMOn Mitro he was a target in jan 17 so I dont think you can pick and choose like that...although I know you will.Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 11:57:22 AMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2019, 11:53:31 AMOffically, but was running the transfer side of things at the time.Quote from: colinwhite on August 06, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Why are people still having this debate ? Done,dusted and boring . Odoi was signed byT Khan at least get your facts right !!
Odoi was signed 14 July 2016
TK was appointed DoF on 23 February 2017
Agreed, I treat every signing from summer 2016 onwards as TK's, except Mitrovic obviously
Also we were in for McDonald the summer before under Rigg so that one is questionable
Quote from: snarks on August 06, 2019, 12:44:30 PMQuote from: gang on August 06, 2019, 12:11:31 PMQuote from: snarks on August 06, 2019, 11:24:22 AM
Clearly Fonte is rated so badly by you, you've named him twice!!
Not up to the English game, unbelievably Jol lied to him to get him to sign, he told him that Fulham would be playing in the Champions League; if only he had told him the truth we wouldn't be lumbered with him.
Thought that was Ruiz, jol wasn't involved with FFC by Fonte's signing
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Yes you're right, my mistake.
Quote from: twang on August 06, 2019, 02:08:21 PM
Fulham just tweeted some training pictures and one player (with his back to the camera) looks suspiciously like Harry Arter. The post is now deleted.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 06, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
That's all very lovely, but are there any transfer rumours to talk about rather than bitching at each other about who signed who! It's getting tedious and quite frankly boring now.
I will be glad when the damn window is shut. 🤪🙏🙏
Quote from: mkras99 on August 06, 2019, 02:16:52 PM
https://www.footballinsider247.com/bruce-allowing-murphy-to-go/amp/
Quote from: mkras99 on August 06, 2019, 03:20:22 PM
http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2019/08/06/newcastle-receive-4-offers-for-jacob-murphy-report/
Quote from: jayffc on August 06, 2019, 03:25:11 PM
Who hit the ground running despite being signed last minute and fired us to promotion.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 06, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
Amartey, I don't know much about him. Is he any good and is he a CDM?
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 06, 2019, 04:36:15 PMQuote from: SuffolkWhite on August 06, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
Amartey, I don't know much about him. Is he any good and is he a CDM?
has played as both cb and in a cdm/cm role for leicester, 6 foot one and missed half of last season due to broken arm.
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!
Quote from: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PMQuote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!
I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).
Quote from: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PMQuote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!
I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 05:11:45 PMQuote from: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PMQuote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!
I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).
According to Wikipedia it was a broken ankle
Quote from: grandad on August 06, 2019, 05:39:51 PMQuote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 05:11:45 PMQuote from: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PMQuote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!
I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).
According to Wikipedia it was a broken ankle
When I broke my ankle it was stronger than the other ankle when it healed. Most broken bones are the same.
Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2019, 04:25:46 PMQuote from: jayffc on August 06, 2019, 03:25:11 PM
Who hit the ground running despite being signed last minute and fired us to promotion.
Not really. There were 4 games between the window opening and us signing Mitro, then a further 3 games before he came good. We took 19 pts from those 7 games because actually, we got going before Mitro came in. Had we been dependant on that signing, and done poor in those 7 games, we may not even have made the play-offs.
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 06, 2019, 04:36:15 PMWhich half of the season did he miss and has he had a pre season or not.Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 06, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
Amartey, I don't know much about him. Is he any good and is he a CDM?
has played as both cb and in a cdm/cm role for leicester, 6 foot one and missed half of last season due to broken arm.
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 05:11:45 PMQuote from: Twig on August 06, 2019, 04:55:57 PMQuote from: jelmo on August 06, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
We do seem to love signing players recovering from long term injuries!
I don't think a broken arm from middle of last season represents anything to be concerned about (but I sympathise with the general point).
According to Wikipedia it was a broken ankle
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 06, 2019, 10:37:40 PM
Daniel Amartey would be a good signing, Listed as a DM but has played CB. And according to transfer markt can play RB. Hopefully he better version of TFM.
Just need a legitimate CB in now...
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Quote from: JoelH5 on August 06, 2019, 10:51:53 PMLooking likely now as Hector is joining Wednesday on a permanent.Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 06, 2019, 10:37:40 PM
Daniel Amartey would be a good signing, Listed as a DM but has played CB. And according to transfer markt can play RB. Hopefully he better version of TFM.
Just need a legitimate CB in now...
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Thats my worry. He will be what we get. Not a genuine CB
Quote from: Hoppus on August 07, 2019, 11:19:55 AM
It's so quiet, no new rumours?
One day left, and we still need a CB and a MF.
How many hours left before the window close?
Quote from: Hoppus on August 07, 2019, 11:19:55 AM
It's so quiet, no new rumours?
One day left, and we still need a CB and a MF.
How many hours left before the window close?
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.
Quote from: JimOG on August 07, 2019, 11:50:30 AM
Alan Nixon usually well informed? I like the little I've seen of Besic - looks a really tough tackling DFM but with real skill
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AMThink he'd be excellent for us, and for £5m very affordable
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 07, 2019, 11:45:07 AM
No rumours doesn't mean no work is ongoing. We know with almost certainty it is. Hopefully we have just learnt to keep things under wraps.
Quote from: filham on August 07, 2019, 11:47:29 AM
No rumours, no sightings at Motspur Park, no word from Spurs about Sess.
Could be that we have seen all the action we are going to for this window which is possibly just as well as otherwise we are now into bargain basement buys, that is leftovers.
Quote from: Tabby on August 07, 2019, 12:24:37 PM
Forrest bidding for Chema, a Spanish CB who we have been linked with on and off through the entire window.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 11:54:07 AMQuote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.
I like this. Would be perfect fit for DM.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 01:15:34 PM
QPR 6 mill bid for McKenna on Aberdeen site.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 07, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
Big Shad is in town for Deadline Day, can only mean he is here with the check book!
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 07, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
Big Shad is in town for Deadline Day, can only mean he is here with the check book!
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2019, 01:23:14 PMQuote from: supersimmo123 on August 07, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
Big Shad is in town for Deadline Day, can only mean he is here with the check book!
that or a NFL game is on
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2019, 12:55:41 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 11:54:07 AMQuote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.
I like this. Would be perfect fit for DM.
Yeah about two weeks too late as usual. We will get the standard line after deadline that we couldn't get the deal done in time. This move has stood out like dogs balls. We need a central midfielder. Hey that guy Besicvis a central midfielder. And his current club don't have any room for him. We should make an enquiry.... it's like TK and his crew are all on qualudes.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 01:36:07 PMQuote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2019, 12:55:41 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 11:54:07 AMQuote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.
I like this. Would be perfect fit for DM.
Yeah about two weeks too late as usual. We will get the standard line after deadline that we couldn't get the deal done in time. This move has stood out like dogs balls. We need a central midfielder. Hey that guy Besicvis a central midfielder. And his current club don't have any room for him. We should make an enquiry.... it's like TK and his crew are all on qualudes.
Or, Besic will be a top signing at this level, and we have been negotiating to get a good deal.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 07, 2019, 01:21:32 PMAnd big brown envelopes stuffed with £50 notes.
Big Shad is in town for Deadline Day, can only mean he is here with the check book!
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2019, 01:41:34 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 01:36:07 PMQuote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2019, 12:55:41 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 07, 2019, 11:54:07 AMQuote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/7/19, 6:43 AM
Fulham. Inquiry for Besic at Everton. Despite Arter arrival.
I like this. Would be perfect fit for DM.
Yeah about two weeks too late as usual. We will get the standard line after deadline that we couldn't get the deal done in time. This move has stood out like dogs balls. We need a central midfielder. Hey that guy Besicvis a central midfielder. And his current club don't have any room for him. We should make an enquiry.... it's like TK and his crew are all on qualudes.
Or, Besic will be a top signing at this level, and we have been negotiating to get a good deal.
it will be 5M we will be witing on them getiing a replacement for the chap that when to PSG and McArhur whose gone to palace
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2019, 01:22:43 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 01:15:34 PM
QPR 6 mill bid for McKenna on Aberdeen site.
Didnt think QPR had 6millon to spend
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2019, 02:42:42 PM
https://www.germanijak.hr/vijesti/bih-reprezentativac-prelazi-u-fulham/64772
Fulham coach Scott Parker was clear - bring me Muhammad Besic!
According to English media reports, the former England national team, and the current Fulham coach, fervently wants the BiH national team in its ranks, having lost quite a number of players who did not want to play for the Championship club next season.
Everton would only outsource Besic to Fulham on loan, and that option is also not something that over-worries the London team as long as there is a buy-in clause at the end of the season.
The diminutive midfielder has defended the colors of HSV, Ferrecvaros and Everton throughout his career and spent last season on loan at Middlesbrough.
For the BiH national team, this 26-year-old has 40 appearances and is still waiting for his first shot at the Dragons jersey.
Muhamed Besic has a contract with Everton until the summer of 2021, and its market value is estimated at five million euros.
Quote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.
Quote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.
I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .
Quote from: dgnffc on August 07, 2019, 04:20:24 PM#Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.
I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .
Kante is only 5ft 6ins
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.
I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .
Quote from: grandad on August 07, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
Aberdeen will only let McKenna go when someone matches their asking price of £7 mil. Come on TK, snatch him from Forest. FFP can´t be that close.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2019, 04:50:46 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.
I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .
I'm 6ft 1 ins......but 6ft 6ins in my slippers.😊
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2019, 04:58:46 PM
We're lurking !
Sorry if this has already appeaed on this thread.
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/07/do-report-sheffield-wednesday-enter-michael-hector-talks-as-fulh/
Report: Sheffield Wednesday enter Michael Hector talks as Fulham lurk
Sheffield Wednesday are in talks to sign Michael Hector on a permanent deal but Fulham are also interested in the Chelsea defender, according to the Mail.
Just a week ago, Wednesday fans would have been very worried about the club's trajectory heading into what looked set to be a testing 2019/20 campaign. They lost their manager, Steve Bruce walking out to join Newcastle with barely a second glance, and not a single penny had been spent on new signings.
But suddenly, things are looking up at Hillsborough. It is amazing what a couple of days can do.
The Mail claims that Chelsea's West London neighbours Fulham are interested too and, as anyone who watched The Cottagers over the last 12 months will tell you, a quality centre-half is a must.
Fulham conceded 81 goals en route to relegation last season and they were their own worst enemies again in Saturday's shock defeat to Wigan. Hector would provide experience and strength at the back – two attributes The Cottagers are crying out for.
Quote from: LVBPT on August 07, 2019, 04:36:18 PMQuote from: dgnffc on August 07, 2019, 04:20:24 PM#Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.
I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .
Kante is only 5ft 6ins
Messi is 5' 7" and he turned out ok
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 04:15:07 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 07, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Hmmmm.... "diminutive" ? Another Seri? We need an enforcer.
I am to understand Besic is 5ft 10ins, Odio is 5Ft 10ins and the average height of an Englishman is 5ft 10ins .
Quote from: grandad on August 07, 2019, 05:47:17 PM
The transfer window is set for mayhem as usual. Not sure whether to watch the last hour on Sky or have an early night & see what has happened in the morning.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2019, 05:51:18 PMQuote from: grandad on August 07, 2019, 05:47:17 PM
The transfer window is set for mayhem as usual. Not sure whether to watch the last hour on Sky or have an early night & see what has happened in the morning.
The window *slams shut* at 5pm so I reckon you'll be ok to stay up for your cocoa granddad.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2019, 04:58:46 PM
We're lurking !
Sorry if this has already appeaed on this thread.
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/07/do-report-sheffield-wednesday-enter-michael-hector-talks-as-fulh/
Report: Sheffield Wednesday enter Michael Hector talks as Fulham lurk
Sheffield Wednesday are in talks to sign Michael Hector on a permanent deal but Fulham are also interested in the Chelsea defender, according to the Mail.
Just a week ago, Wednesday fans would have been very worried about the club's trajectory heading into what looked set to be a testing 2019/20 campaign. They lost their manager, Steve Bruce walking out to join Newcastle with barely a second glance, and not a single penny had been spent on new signings.
But suddenly, things are looking up at Hillsborough. It is amazing what a couple of days can do.
The Mail claims that Chelsea's West London neighbours Fulham are interested too and, as anyone who watched The Cottagers over the last 12 months will tell you, a quality centre-half is a must.
Fulham conceded 81 goals en route to relegation last season and they were their own worst enemies again in Saturday's shock defeat to Wigan. Hector would provide experience and strength at the back – two attributes The Cottagers are crying out for.
Quote from: Ordar on August 07, 2019, 07:04:04 PM
SPURS NEAR SESSEGNON DEAL
A deal between Spurs and Fulham for Ryan Sessegnon is getting closer.
And the transfer is expected to be completed before the window shuts at 5pm tomorrow.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 07, 2019, 07:42:22 PMQuote from: Ordar on August 07, 2019, 07:04:04 PM
SPURS NEAR SESSEGNON DEAL
A deal between Spurs and Fulham for Ryan Sessegnon is getting closer.
And the transfer is expected to be completed before the window shuts at 5pm tomorrow.
Due to the lateness of the deal Fulham will rush through winger Arnold Rustbucket from Bridlington Over 50s but he did once play centre half for the under 11s so that counts as our centre half.
Quote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.
Quote from: @jolslover on August 07, 2019, 07:53:29 PMQuote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.
He's not played a game in a year and a half, wouldn't be a great signing.
Quote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.
Quote from: Matt10 on August 07, 2019, 08:29:10 PMQuote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.
I wouldn't mind him, you're right he's a non-nonsense back. I'd just be genuinely concerned of his physical and mental fitness considering how long he's been out.
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2019, 08:59:50 PMQuote from: Matt10 on August 07, 2019, 08:29:10 PMQuote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Someone on TFIF today mentioned Winston Reid and obviously we should take it with a pinch of salt but if it`s true that would be an immense signing. A commanding, no-nonsense centre-back and one of the most underrated Premiership players of the last decade, in my opinion.
I wouldn't mind him, you're right he's a non-nonsense back. I'd just be genuinely concerned of his physical and mental fitness considering how long he's been out.
What happened to Reece Oxford rumour
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 07, 2019, 09:23:38 PM
If/when Sess leaves the squad still needs 3 players to fill out it's roster if they aren't planning to use the U23/U18 players.
The squad depth is shite. If either of our new hires goes down we've got Ayite as the viable backup. THAT'S IT. Kebano..not clinical. AK47...not clinical.
I was slightly worried after our loss this weekend. If we don't bring in 3 players and we let one of our other goal scorers go (Sess) I'm going to be very worried.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 07, 2019, 09:34:41 PM
If rumours are true, which I doubt (and hope are not true, in all seriousness), why are spuds happy to pay 55m for lo celso and prepared to wait until the last second of the transfer window and haggle over what we want for Sess? Is it that they see us as easy pickings?
I would tell them to do one, whenever they enquire about any of our players, personally!
Seems, from the press, that they have wanted Sess for couple of seasons and yet not prepared to pay the asking price and instead wait knowing we will break eventually?
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 07, 2019, 07:42:22 PMI'm in Scarborough and believe me, Arnold is NO Centre Half 👍😂Quote from: Ordar on August 07, 2019, 07:04:04 PM
SPURS NEAR SESSEGNON DEAL
A deal between Spurs and Fulham for Ryan Sessegnon is getting closer.
And the transfer is expected to be completed before the window shuts at 5pm tomorrow.
Due to the lateness of the deal Fulham will rush through winger Arnold Rustbucket from Bridlington Over 50s but he did once play centre half for the under 11s so that counts as our centre half.
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
@bbcsport_david
Provided agreement finalised between Tottenham & Fulham overnight, Ryan Sessegnon's medical anticipated for early morning. Key #THFC target and as reported on eve of window opening (https://t.co/PNzbdFpRwb) Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term #FFC
So the fee is still a sticking point then.
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Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term
Quote from: Statto on August 07, 2019, 10:45:48 PMI sort of agree, I do question why Ryan thinks it's the best option out there.Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term
Sorry but any story suggesting he'll be getting competitive minutes for them in the foreseeable future, i just cannot take seriously. he's not even among the top 5 players in his position in the championship.
Quote from: Tabby on August 07, 2019, 10:42:28 PMDoes say provided agreement finalised, to me that indicates fee sort of agreed but the add ons/ player exchanges or sell ons yet to be sortedQuote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
@bbcsport_david
Provided agreement finalised between Tottenham & Fulham overnight, Ryan Sessegnon's medical anticipated for early morning. Key #THFC target and as reported on eve of window opening (https://t.co/PNzbdFpRwb) Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term #FFC
So the fee is still a sticking point then.
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I'd say finalised agreement means that the fee is ironed out.
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 07, 2019, 11:25:46 PM
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 01:41:02 AM
David Ornstein (@bbcsport_david)
8/7/19, 8:14 PM
Tottenham have reached an agreement with Fulham to sign England U21 left-back Ryan Sessegnon for £25m with #THFC midfielder Josh Onomah joining #FFC as part of the deal. Hearing proposed signing of Real Betis midfielder Giovani Lo Celso likely to be loan with an obligation to buy
There are £5m worth of performance-based add-ons in the Sessegnon deal that could see the final fee paid to Fulham by Tottenham rise to £30m
Quote from: Statto on August 07, 2019, 10:45:48 PMQuote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
Poch sees him initially on left wing before dropping back long term
Sorry but any story suggesting he'll be getting competitive minutes for them in the foreseeable future, i just cannot take seriously. he's not even among the top 5 players in his position in the championship.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 07, 2019, 11:36:48 PMQuote from: Fulham 442 on August 07, 2019, 11:25:46 PM
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
8pm if you're in the UK!!
Quote from: grandad on August 07, 2019, 11:24:22 PM
Knowing how Levy treats us he will delay the transfer until the last minute leaving us no time to invest the funds. AGAIN. He has tapped up Sess for 2 seasons & has only just made a real approach. I detest him more than any other owner.
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AMSky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
8pm if you're in the UK!!
I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?
It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AMQuote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AMSky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
8pm if you're in the UK!!
I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?
It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AMyoubalways get a few hours after window is shut to to actually finalise dont you. We've signed a few that went well past deadline, just need to get a certain bit of paper work in before 5Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AMSky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
8pm if you're in the UK!!
I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?
It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 08:41:57 AMYes that's correct but thought it was openly from prem clubs who submit a deal sheet.Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AMyoubalways get a few hours after window is shut to to actually finalise dont you. We've signed a few that went well past deadline, just need to get a certain bit of paper work in before 5Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AMSky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
8pm if you're in the UK!!
I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?
It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:23:28 AM
Sideshow Bob...Chelsea to Arsenal is a surprise.
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:44:17 AMwe def signed some after the window in the slav era whilst in championship. Martin for one albeit a lone, and def a right back who's name escapes me at the moQuote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 08:41:57 AMYes that's correct but thought it was openly from prem clubs who submit a deal sheet.Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AMyoubalways get a few hours after window is shut to to actually finalise dont you. We've signed a few that went well past deadline, just need to get a certain bit of paper work in before 5Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AMSky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
8pm if you're in the UK!!
I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?
It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Deadline is 5pm, i am not sure the EFL use deal sheets to delay deals
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AMQuote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AMSky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
8pm if you're in the UK!!
I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?
It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 10:31:26 AM
Southampton's Harrison Reed is set for a move to the Championship - hearing Fulham are leading the chase, but others are keen.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 10:46:57 AM
Anyone know if josh the spurs player coming our way is any good?
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 09:36:05 AMBecause he was at a premium club so deal short possible as I understand things
Mitro was a deal sheet as well unless I'm misremembering.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 09:34:45 AMWas the right back stoor?Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:44:17 AMwe def signed some after the window in the slav era whilst in championship. Martin for one albeit a lone, and def a right back who's name escapes me at the moQuote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 08:41:57 AMYes that's correct but thought it was openly from prem clubs who submit a deal sheet.Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AMyoubalways get a few hours after window is shut to to actually finalise dont you. We've signed a few that went well past deadline, just need to get a certain bit of paper work in before 5Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AMSky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
8pm if you're in the UK!!
I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?
It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Deadline is 5pm, i am not sure the EFL use deal sheets to delay deals
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 10:54:10 AMQuote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 09:34:45 AMWas the right back stoor?Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:44:17 AMwe def signed some after the window in the slav era whilst in championship. Martin for one albeit a lone, and def a right back who's name escapes me at the moQuote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 08:41:57 AMYes that's correct but thought it was openly from prem clubs who submit a deal sheet.Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:39:49 AMyoubalways get a few hours after window is shut to to actually finalise dont you. We've signed a few that went well past deadline, just need to get a certain bit of paper work in before 5Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 08, 2019, 08:28:01 AMSky just said closes 5pm uk time where does the 8pm come form
Well I guess we will all be waiting with baited breath to see what tomorrow brings. At least when 5pm rolls around all the speculation will be over...
8pm if you're in the UK!!
I must admit I thought it was 5pm UK time?
It is 5pm today. The clock is ticking!
Deadline is 5pm, i am not sure the EFL use deal sheets to delay deals
Re Martin I though on that we got the paperwork in just be the Tim like 23:59 and a few seconds ds so to speak, think he said that as he was worries it wouldnt go thru
Probably wishes it hadn't now lol
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 10:50:25 AMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 10:46:57 AM
Anyone know if josh the spurs player coming our way is any good?
He was very highly rated a couple of years ago but hasn't impressed at either Villa or Sheffield Wednesday. Remember he looked good in a game against us for Villa though. Hopefully Parker who will know him from his time at spurs will be able to get something out of him.
Not expecting a whole lot though.
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on August 08, 2019, 10:40:52 AM
Fulham, Bristol City interested in Reid
Sky sources understand Bobby Reid could leave Cardiff City today was Bristol City and Fulham both interested in signing the attaching midfielder.
Quote from: bencher on August 08, 2019, 11:20:23 AMQuote from: Toby Ward-Smith on August 08, 2019, 10:40:52 AM
Fulham, Bristol City interested in Reid
Sky sources understand Bobby Reid could leave Cardiff City today was Bristol City and Fulham both interested in signing the attaching midfielder.
Yes please!
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 11:33:10 AMhe would rather sit on the bench at us rather than start for city?Quote from: bencher on August 08, 2019, 11:20:23 AMQuote from: Toby Ward-Smith on August 08, 2019, 10:40:52 AM
Fulham, Bristol City interested in Reid
Sky sources understand Bobby Reid could leave Cardiff City today was Bristol City and Fulham both interested in signing the attaching midfielder.
Yes please!
ive just been told "Yep he's turned down Bristol city n wants to join us" when i queried it.
have asked whats happening with the defence
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Now told talks between Spurs and Fulham over Ryan Sessegnon have hit an impasse. @MirrorFootball mirror.co.uk/sport/football...
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 11:35:30 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Now told talks between Spurs and Fulham over Ryan Sessegnon have hit an impasse. @MirrorFootball mirror.co.uk/sport/football...
hes just arrived at spurs to start his medical. would be surprised if an "impasse" has been hit
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 11:35:30 AMQuote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Now told talks between Spurs and Fulham over Ryan Sessegnon have hit an impasse. @MirrorFootball mirror.co.uk/sport/football...
hes just arrived at spurs to start his medical according to sky. would be surprised if an "impasse" has been hit
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Now told talks between Spurs and Fulham over Ryan Sessegnon have hit an impasse. @MirrorFootball mirror.co.uk/sport/football...
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 11:35:14 AM
I wonder where Reid would fit into the team. Shouldn't be ahead of either Cairney or Mitro. Off the bench I guess.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 11:53:10 AMQuote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 11:35:14 AM
I wonder where Reid would fit into the team. Shouldn't be ahead of either Cairney or Mitro. Off the bench I guess.
Can he play CB?
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 11:35:14 AM
I wonder where Reid would fit into the team. Shouldn't be ahead of either Cairney or Mitro. Off the bench I guess.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:00:40 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳
We need a CB, and we end up with a striker who never scores.
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:00:40 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳
We need a CB, and we end up with a striker who never scores.
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:00:40 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳
We need a CB, and we end up with a striker who never scores.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 12:05:52 PMQuote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:00:40 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko)
8/8/19, 6:57 AM
Fulham. Red hot favourites now for Bobby Reid. Cardiff will do deal if right. Pray for Lee Johnson 😳
We need a CB, and we end up with a striker who never scores.
19 in 46 with 7 assists last time he was in the championship but he never scores? Okay.
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 12:12:25 PMQuote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"
same source that i reported from about knockaert, Cav and that reid has rejected Bristol City and wants to come to us
Source?
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 12:16:06 PM
Our transfer windows are beginning to follow the same pattern. Absolutely no value attached to signing players in time for pre-season and little regard had to what we actually need. Just wait until deadline day and look for random bargains like we're in Primark on boxing day.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 08, 2019, 12:20:13 PMor someone resembling Emile Hesky hanging around Motspur ?
Anyone seen Carlton Cole and Jason Koumas today?
Quote from: bencher on August 08, 2019, 12:19:48 PMQuote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 12:16:06 PM
Our transfer windows are beginning to follow the same pattern. Absolutely no value attached to signing players in time for pre-season and little regard had to what we actually need. Just wait until deadline day and look for random bargains like we're in Primark on boxing day.
If we do end up signing Reid, I would not agree that it is not what we need. It's been said many times over these last x weeks that we can't rely on Mitro being fit all season, and we also know that we lack a plan B striking option. Fonte has not worked out, AK is not the answer either. Obviously, we have to strengthen defence and DM as well, so let's see what transpires on that front.
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 12:16:06 PM
Our transfer windows are beginning to follow the same pattern. Absolutely no value attached to signing players in time for pre-season and little regard had to what we actually need. Just wait until deadline day and look for random bargains. Like Currys on black friday.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
Quote from: FFC73 on August 08, 2019, 12:52:50 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
Johanson replacement and, yes, we have other areas that need more urgent attention.
Maybe Johanson has been playing well at DM, CB or RB in training
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 01:09:57 PM
Drinkwater to Burnley.
Carroll back to Newcastle
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 01:40:20 PMits starting to feel like 2014 all over again. Top ending the squad with a p%ss poor defence
Fulham are confident they have won the race Bobby Reid...
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 01:44:49 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 01:40:20 PMits starting to feel like 2014 all over again. Top ending the squad with a p%ss poor defence
Fulham are confident they have won the race Bobby Reid...
Quote from: Tom_FFC on August 08, 2019, 01:53:39 PM
We haven't even been linked with a defender so I can only imagine the club feel what we got is sufficient.
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PMbulk? For all we know Reid may be it lol and done who knows
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 01:56:49 PMexcept it didnt quite pan out like that. Felix got sacked and the stupid 5 man panel jumped the gun and recommended kit.Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 01:44:49 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 01:40:20 PMits starting to feel like 2014 all over again. Top ending the squad with a p%ss poor defence
Fulham are confident they have won the race Bobby Reid...
They score3, we score 4!
Have faith Ben, the window hasn't shut yet.
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.
Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?
Quote from: HV71 on August 08, 2019, 12:54:28 PMJust as likely that TK has got himself confused.
Do you think we are after both Reid and Reed -or has some journo overheard something and we have some rumour confusion. Of course I could be read ing too much into this....
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.
Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 02:04:15 PMQuote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"
Are you able to name who are the others excluding Reid? Besic must be one of them, Harrison Reed rumoured to be another?
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 02:04:15 PMQuote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 12:10:43 PM
apparently, were "still in talks with 6 players. not expected that all will be concluded but active"
Are you able to name who are the others excluding Reid? Besic must be one of them, Harrison Reed rumoured to be another?
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:02:09 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.
Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?
His most played positions are i) Attacking midfielder, ii) central midfielder, iii) striker/second striker
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:06:01 PMI hope he isnt as his goal scoring record makes fonte look like messi by comparisonQuote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:02:09 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.
Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?
His most played positions are i) Attacking midfielder, ii) central midfielder, iii) striker/second striker
Thanks, thats a much better outlook then, thought he was an out and out striker.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:10:58 PMHe was never prolific until his final season at Bristol City, where he was on fire. His prem return for an AM was also pretty goodQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:06:01 PMI hope he isnt as his goal scoring record makes fonte look like messi by comparisonQuote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:02:09 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.
Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?
His most played positions are i) Attacking midfielder, ii) central midfielder, iii) striker/second striker
Thanks, thats a much better outlook then, thought he was an out and out striker.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 02:12:07 PM
Centre Half Scott McKenna of Aberdeen has had an offer for him from Sheffield Wednesday rejected.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 02:12:28 PMfair point. I only flicked through his states and saw 26 goals in 135 games for city. Didnt realise 19 of those came from his last season with themQuote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:10:58 PMHe was never prolific until his final season at Bristol City, where he was on fire. His prem return for an AM was also pretty goodQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:06:01 PMI hope he isnt as his goal scoring record makes fonte look like messi by comparisonQuote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 02:02:09 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 02:00:11 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 01:52:47 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure where Reid fits in?
We were all moaning how poor our midfield was against Barnsley. So if he's good we may well need him as a starter.
Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a striker?
His most played positions are i) Attacking midfielder, ii) central midfielder, iii) striker/second striker
Thanks, thats a much better outlook then, thought he was an out and out striker.
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:10:58 PM
I hope he isnt as his goal scoring record makes fonte look like messi by comparison
Quote from: Sir Craven on August 08, 2019, 02:18:28 PMreally?? Lol wouldn't get to happy lol
Finally a DF linked
https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-fulham-plot-late-swoop-for-huddersfield-town-25y-o-intl/
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PMHe seemed to score against us so happy if we get him, process of elimination
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
Quote from: Danitar on August 08, 2019, 02:32:49 PMevery man and his dog has scored against us.Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PMHe seemed to score against us so happy if we get him, process of elimination
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:34:07 PMHaha true but i think he will be a good signing and has more energy than mitrovic so gives us another optionQuote from: Danitar on August 08, 2019, 02:32:49 PMevery man and his dog has scored against us.Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PMHe seemed to score against us so happy if we get him, process of elimination
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 02:39:42 PMmate if we get him Jim wont need to pronounce his name hes no good lol shouldn't play
if we get him, poor Jim is going to have a terrible time pronouncing Florent Hadergjonaj :005:
Quote from: Danitar on August 08, 2019, 02:38:46 PMyep, could be great. After last season I will never make a statement on arrivals until after I've seen them play for us. And also this rumour seems to have peed off the Cardiff fans alot so that's another added bonusQuote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:34:07 PMHaha true but i think he will be a good signing and has more energy than mitrovic so gives us another optionQuote from: Danitar on August 08, 2019, 02:32:49 PMevery man and his dog has scored against us.Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PMHe seemed to score against us so happy if we get him, process of elimination
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 02:45:34 PMthe context was there further up the board, when I stated that i hope he isnt out and out as stats arent that greatQuote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
Bobby Reid 37 in 231 apps
Rui fonte 47 in 201 apps.
I stand by my ridiculous comment
One of them is an attacking midfielder who can also play up front and the other is a striker for his whole career so some context is definitely needed
Quote from: snarks on August 08, 2019, 02:36:14 PMHe should have been part of the Sess deal & not Onomah
Bugger, Carter-Vickers to Stoke
Quote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PMNo, clubs forums I've looked at all have a small number of posters moaning about how crap their club is at getting players in. Just looked at another, Saints to see what they thought of Reid. Quite a few posters like you moaning about their club.
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
Quote from: ScalleysDad on August 08, 2019, 02:58:06 PM
Looks like all the movement is midfield, attacking midfield and wide midfield. Perhaps SP has seen that his back line could work if they were not under seige all the time. TC might be captain but I can see him losing out on a few games if this midfield influx continues.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 03:00:23 PMfrom a 2m deal to a loan lol
#Everton are looking at a last-minute deal for Mo Besic to go on loan to #SheffieldUnited or #Fulham but time ticking on getting a deal done @SunSport
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:02:42 PMCan't believe this, with less than a couple of hours to go and there seems to be a few birds in our bush but not one in our hand.
2 hours
FFS
Even if we are negotiating a load of cracking deals, we are running such a high risk of them collapsing at this stage
Idiocy to leave first XI signings until deadline day
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 08, 2019, 03:03:22 PMQuote from: Riversider on August 08, 2019, 01:57:03 PMNo, clubs forums I've looked at all have a small number of posters moaning about how crap their club is at getting players in. Just looked at another, Saints to see what they thought of Reid. Quite a few posters like you moaning about their club.
The window is open for 3 months and we leave the bulk of our business for the last 3 hours 😩
Only at Fulham !
So, it def is not just at Fulham
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 03:08:55 PMQuote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:02:42 PMCan't believe this, with less than a couple of hours to go and there seems to be a few birds in our bush but not one in our hand.
2 hours
FFS
Even if we are negotiating a load of cracking deals, we are running such a high risk of them collapsing at this stage
Idiocy to leave first XI signings until deadline day
We are in danger of getting no one today and an unhappy Sess. still being with us until Christmas.
Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2019, 03:15:46 PM
Things might start to move now:
Ryan Sessegnon transfer from Fulham to Tottenham is COMPLETED. Five-year deal with option for club to extend.
From Sam Wallace (Telegraph)
Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2019, 03:15:46 PMdon't hold your breath!!
Things might start to move now:
Ryan Sessegnon transfer from Fulham to Tottenham is COMPLETED. Five-year deal with option for club to extend.
From Sam Wallace (Telegraph)
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 03:18:43 PMwho cares lol he wont play and even if he did come we still need buys, but I think he did come
sess gone, some money now freed up to get other deals done, did we get onomah in the sess deal?
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
2 hours
FFS
Even if we are negotiating a load of cracking deals, we are running such a high risk of them collapsing at this stage
Idiocy to leave first XI signings until deadline day
Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 03:20:43 PMQuote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 03:18:43 PMwho cares lol he wont play and even if he did come we still need buys, but I think he did come
sess gone, some money now freed up to get other deals done, did we get onomah in the sess deal?
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 03:21:52 PMAgreed, but lets hope that 25M is to pay for Cavaleiro and Knockheart and NOT for other signings.
25m rising to 30m for someone who has less than 12 months left on their contract and hasn't actually shown that they'll necessarily live up to their hype at the top level is pretty good going all things considered
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 03:21:39 PMwhat's your point pal?Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
2 hours
FFS
Even if we are negotiating a load of cracking deals, we are running such a high risk of them collapsing at this stage
Idiocy to leave first XI signings until deadline day
Yeah they probably did it for a laugh pal
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 03:36:40 PM
BLADES, FULHAM CHASE BESIC
Sheffield United and Fulham are trying to land Everton midfielder Muhamed Besic, according to Sky sources.
Sky Sports News understands the 26-year-old Bosnia international would prefer to remain in the Premier League if possible.
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 08, 2019, 03:44:26 PM
Any news on a new centre back or a new right back?
FFC seem to be collecting wingers and attacking midfielders. Did the owners or management watch last season? Improvements are badly needed in the centre of the defence and above all at right back where we have never properly replaced Fredericks. Defensive midfield could do with an upgrade as well.
90 minutes to go.
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 03:46:14 PMQuote from: Mullers OG on August 08, 2019, 03:44:26 PM
Any news on a new centre back or a new right back?
FFC seem to be collecting wingers and attacking midfielders. Did the owners or management watch last season? Improvements are badly needed in the centre of the defence and above all at right back where we have never properly replaced Fredericks. Defensive midfield could do with an upgrade as well.
90 minutes to go.
Rumour about Florent Hadergjonaj of Huddersfield.
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 03:57:45 PM
Ian Dennis on twitter saying we are not in for Besic trying for Reed from SOuthampton and Reid from Cardiff
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 03:27:20 PM
Activity at Motspur,Reid or another maybe?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 08, 2019, 04:00:50 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 03:27:20 PM
Activity at Motspur,Reid or another maybe?
Are you at MP Mince ?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 03:27:20 PM
Activity at Motspur,Reid or another maybe?
Quote from: twang on August 08, 2019, 03:25:59 PMcant see anything anywhere else
@MirrorDarren
Josh Onomah has gone the other way to Fulham. Three year deal, one year option. @MirrorFootball
Quote from: lomotd on August 08, 2019, 04:14:19 PM
Prediction: Fulham will sign a player today that hasn't been mentioned in this whole thread.
Quote from: Camel Club on August 08, 2019, 04:11:15 PMIan Dennis (think he is BBC) saying we are not in for him
Besic is still a possibility according to SSN although Sheffield United are also in for him. Reid would also be a good signing but I am becoming increasingly worried, with only an hour of the window to go, that we have overestimated the quality/depth of our defensive unit whilst simultaneously underestimating the quality of Championship forwards.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 04:12:54 PMJust 45 minutes left to complete that dream, you must let us all know how it ended because it looks to me as if we are going to have no change in our existing back four options.
Think there might be surprise yet,or am I dreaming.
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:18:19 PMQuote from: Camel Club on August 08, 2019, 04:11:15 PMIan Dennis (think he is BBC) saying we are not in for him
Besic is still a possibility according to SSN although Sheffield United are also in for him. Reid would also be a good signing but I am becoming increasingly worried, with only an hour of the window to go, that we have overestimated the quality/depth of our defensive unit whilst simultaneously underestimating the quality of Championship forwards.
Quote from: LVBPT on August 08, 2019, 04:19:47 PMJust saying what the BBC guy has tweeted out. Not in for him but are for Reid and ReedQuote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:18:19 PMQuote from: Camel Club on August 08, 2019, 04:11:15 PMIan Dennis (think he is BBC) saying we are not in for him
Besic is still a possibility according to SSN although Sheffield United are also in for him. Reid would also be a good signing but I am becoming increasingly worried, with only an hour of the window to go, that we have overestimated the quality/depth of our defensive unit whilst simultaneously underestimating the quality of Championship forwards.
we are 100% in for him
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 04:21:30 PM
Before everyone panics and starts bitching at 17:00, you can have an extension till 18:00
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 04:21:30 PMthink its only the premier league that do. So if the deal is with a prem club it can be extended. Not sure (say 50/50) that the EFL don't do deal sheets to extend the time frame
Before everyone panics and starts bitching at 17:00, you can have an extension till 18:00
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 04:10:47 PMYes a CB, what about a right back, another midfielder and maybe even a goalkeeper?
All I really care about now is a CB. Onomah isn't worth getting excited about imo
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 04:33:21 PM
R Sess has got a 5 year deal. In August 2024 we can get him back for nothing to resurrect his career.
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 04:25:20 PM
Ive turned sky transfer deadline show off for two reasons, one Jim White thins its all about him and two I cannot believe we are not addressing what are the obvious issues
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 08, 2019, 04:45:52 PMQuote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif
Its looking that way
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 04:49:34 PM
Let's wait until 6pm before getting the pitchforks out yeah?
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 04:49:34 PM
We've been linked with a flurry of signings today, and worth the hour extention including deal sheets, I expect to see at least 1 or 2 (excluding Onomah) come through the door.
Let's wait until 6pm before getting the pitchforks out yeah?
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Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 04:42:27 PMHe is my screen saver on my phone.... Sad day really :(
Just unfollowed R Sess from Twitter.
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:48:32 PMQuote from: sunburywhite on August 08, 2019, 04:45:52 PMQuote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif
Its looking that way
it certainly is, linked to so many but no announcements with 10 mins to go is very concerning
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 04:55:52 PMQuote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:48:32 PMQuote from: sunburywhite on August 08, 2019, 04:45:52 PMQuote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif
Its looking that way
it certainly is, linked to so many but no announcements with 10 mins to go is very concerning
Last summer on deadline day we literally announced everyone after the window closed so what's the rush? As long as the paperwork is done it doesn't matter when we announce them.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 04:55:52 PMQuote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:48:32 PMQuote from: sunburywhite on August 08, 2019, 04:45:52 PMQuote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
if we end up with no one... 063.gif
Its looking that way
it certainly is, linked to so many but no announcements with 10 mins to go is very concerning
Last summer on deadline day we literally announced everyone after the window closed so what's the rush? As long as the paperwork is done it doesn't matter when we announce them.
Quote from: elgreenio on August 08, 2019, 04:57:06 PM
Imagine we'll sign one or two but whoever we sign wont be a difference maker, and nor should they really be if we're leaving it this late in the day.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:00:40 PM
Its 5pm, where are my players!!!? Moan moan moan. Stfu!
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 05:00:56 PMseconded.
I can already see AM's explanation to the FST. There were no defenders available at good prices so rather than overpaying, we took the opportunity to bring in some competitively priced attackers.
That would be fine if you were on the Football Index stock market app Alastair but not if you're trying to build a real life, functioning football team.
FFS can we put someone with basic football knowledge in charge of transfers, not an £800k pa glorified account and Richy Rich the chairman's son.
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
Chema Rodriguez, who we were linked with earlier has signed for Nottingham Forest.
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.
Quote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:07:43 PMQuote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
Chema Rodriguez, who we were linked with earlier has signed for Nottingham Forest.
Yes but everyone moaned about him being Spanish and playing in there second tier so tk called it off
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 05:02:43 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:00:40 PM
Its 5pm, where are my players!!!? Moan moan moan. Stfu!
Maybe you should take a 30 minute break as well buddy.
Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 05:13:28 PM
I hope TK didn´t think that the window closes at 5pm Florida time & that there is still 5 hours to go.
Quote from: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 05:15:15 PM
Benik Afobe has joined Bristol City, so I assume Reid didnt go back there
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:19:59 PMBelieve that's just PL, not EFL
6 deal sheets submitted, hopefully some of those relate tp us :dft012:
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 05:20:24 PMcorrect just the premQuote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:19:59 PMBelieve that's just PL, not EFL
6 deal sheets submitted, hopefully some of those relate tp us :dft012:
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 05:20:24 PMQuote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:19:59 PMBelieve that's just PL, not EFL
6 deal sheets submitted, hopefully some of those relate tp us :dft012:
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Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 05:21:11 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 05:20:24 PMcorrect just the premQuote from: Rj Fulham on August 08, 2019, 05:19:59 PMBelieve that's just PL, not EFL
6 deal sheets submitted, hopefully some of those relate tp us :dft012:
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Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:12:31 PMFrom what i have been told you only have the extension if your doing a deal with a prem club not between EFL clubs.Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.
Up to 7 apparently
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 05:25:48 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:12:31 PMFrom what i have been told you only have the extension if your doing a deal with a prem club not between EFL clubs.Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.
Up to 7 apparently
Deals can be done but not announced till later, they could be waiting for final bits and pieces etc, quite standard form what I was told earlier
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:31:40 PMI was rewarding on the EFL website about this and they don't state they do that, also told be a reliable source they have never done it unless between a prem club and an EFL club. To be fair its al so confusing these days, worth multiple window closings and different rules in England for different divisions. It's a complete jokeQuote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 05:25:48 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:12:31 PMFrom what i have been told you only have the extension if your doing a deal with a prem club not between EFL clubs.Quote from: filham on August 08, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Deadline gone, so how long now for formal confirmation of any transfers.
Is there still hope that we have quietly sneaked in a top centre back.
Up to 7 apparently
Deals can be done but not announced till later, they could be waiting for final bits and pieces etc, quite standard form what I was told earlier
Sky reporter said on Twitter its till 7 for efl too
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 05:35:34 PM
Hector staying with Chelsea. Chelsea Journo posted.
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 05:40:13 PM
So all in all our defence is a shite as ever. Wait for the excuses from TK. There were loads of CB´s & FB´s available. The FST should demand answers why we have failed to address the defensive failings.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 05:41:26 PMQuote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 05:40:13 PM
So all in all our defence is a shite as ever. Wait for the excuses from TK. There were loads of CB´s & FB´s available. The FST should demand answers why we have failed to address the defensive failings.
Do we know for sure we haven't got a defender in?
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 05:46:47 PM
If we have purchased a defender then we've kept it bloody quiet
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PMQuote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals
Don't think that's true.
Quote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:54:11 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PMQuote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals
Don't think that's true.
Only l1 and l2 can get loan players in
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 05:56:39 PM
Club will let the mist of sess going fall disappear and then bam 4 signings
Quote from: Hoppus on August 08, 2019, 05:48:53 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 08, 2019, 05:46:47 PM
If we have purchased a defender then we've kept it bloody quiet
So true, but there is no new defender. Only the guy from Cardiff.
Quote from: Fulhammy on August 08, 2019, 06:11:31 PM
So we're really going to get through this window without signing a single defender?
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 06:19:05 PM
Bobby Ried is done. Fulham PR just doing there thing atm. £10m #FFC
Quote from: Sir Craven on August 08, 2019, 06:24:16 PMReid all about it?Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 06:19:05 PM
Bobby Ried is done. Fulham PR just doing there thing atm. £10m #FFC
Probably trying to come up with a pun. REID-iculous?
Quote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:54:11 PML1 and L2 can sign players until 2nd of September i thinkQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PMQuote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals
Don't think that's true.
Only l1 and l2 can get loan players in
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 06:31:17 PMWe don't have to announce anything before any time can announce them at midnight i guess.
Half an hour to go before we know for sure about the final signings. But We have hardly had a great history of signing defenders recently. We have quite a few at the moment, none of whom are good. So makes sense not to try and waste a good shirt on a defender that just doesn't act up to his job description.
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:33:26 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 08, 2019, 06:31:17 PMWe don't have to announce anything before any time can announce them at midnight i guess.
Half an hour to go before we know for sure about the final signings. But We have hardly had a great history of signing defenders recently. We have quite a few at the moment, none of whom are good. So makes sense not to try and waste a good shirt on a defender that just doesn't act up to his job description.
Quote from: Rambler on August 08, 2019, 06:34:31 PMMaybe Parker wanted him?
Are we really about to waste 10 of the 25 mil we got for Sessegnon on bobby Reid. My god our DoF has gone frankly insane. I wonder when we got relegated back in April/May when Shad khan explicitly said this would give us time to identify targets and make sensible decisions that this would be the situation we're in now. Utterly ridiculous. Where the hell is our DM and RB and RCB? 3 key positions completely infilled. I agree with another poster DM is our biggest worry, McDonald is just so immobile now. He's long past it.
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:29:02 PMQuote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:54:11 PML1 and L2 can sign players until 2nd of September i thinkQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PMQuote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals
Don't think that's true.
Only l1 and l2 can get loan players in
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 06:37:40 PMI was referring to their only l1 and l2 players can loan someoneQuote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 06:29:02 PMQuote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 05:54:11 PML1 and L2 can sign players until 2nd of September i thinkQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 PMQuote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
According to TIFF someone says EFL clubs still have 7 more days to complete loan deals
Don't think that's true.
Only l1 and l2 can get loan players in
L1 and L2 can sign including purchase players until 2nd September but the way it reads Championship teams can loan players for another 7 days. May be wrong but that's the way it reads on more than one website
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2019, 06:45:16 PMHe means abroad
A quote from the BBC website on transfers;
"Premier League clubs can still sell players to other leagues after their voluntary deadline of 8th August but cannot bring anybody in to replace them past that point."
Maybe still hope for Hector?!
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
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Still a few to be unveiled ...
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Alan Nixon
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PMhope not
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Alan Nixon
Still a few to be unveiled ...
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Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 06:57:12 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PMhope not
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Alan Nixon
Still a few to be unveiled ...
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knowing us, we got her on a season long loan with an option to buy 064.gif
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 07:00:26 PMdifferent country? LolQuote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 06:57:12 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PMhope not
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20.46 today. It's only 19.00 now. Someone taking the Michael
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 05:45:14 PMGood. Didn't rate him as a CDM.
Sheffield United getting deal sorted for Mo Besic, having beaten Fulham to a deal with Everton.
Quote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 07:00:26 PMI'm in Israel mate, it's two hours ahead here...Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 06:57:12 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PMhope not
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20.46 today. It's only 19.00 now. Someone taking the Michael
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 06:53:36 PMCan she play RB.......?Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
Alan Nixon
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Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 08, 2019, 07:03:51 PM
Besic gone to Sheff Utd. I guess that means Arter will play DM.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 07:04:08 PMQuote from: sarnian on August 08, 2019, 07:00:26 PMI'm in Israel mate, it's two hours ahead here...Quote from: Ruleszz on August 08, 2019, 06:57:12 PMQuote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 06:49:57 PMhope not
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20.46 today. It's only 19.00 now. Someone taking the Michael
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DEFENDER UPDATE: Reports have begun circulating that a deal sheet was handed in for Michael Hector. Fulham could potentially have three transfers to announce, or could just be the one #FFC
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DEFENDER UPDATE: Reports have begun circulating that a deal sheet was handed in for Michael Hector. Fulham could potentially have three transfers to announce, or could just be the one #FFC
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God,I'd better get the wife to get another pot
of Cocoa on the go,this could be a long night.😊
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DEFENDER UPDATE: Reports have begun circulating that a deal sheet was handed in for Michael Hector. Fulham could potentially have three transfers to announce, or could just be the one #FFC
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Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 07:50:23 PM
I'd tale hector over bobby Reid as that's more what we need
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Would be dissapointed if this was the end of our business though
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Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 07:51:49 PMI'd rather both!Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 07:50:23 PM
I'd tale hector over bobby Reid as that's more what we need
Same
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 08, 2019, 07:52:27 PMSo would i but if one or the other, then .......Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 07:51:49 PMI'd rather both!Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 07:50:23 PM
I'd tale hector over bobby Reid as that's more what we need
Same
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Have a feeling Bobby Reid might've signed going by Joe Bryan starting a hashtag about him...
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 05:45:14 PM
Sheffield United getting deal sorted for Mo Besic, having beaten Fulham to a deal with Everton.
Quote from: Ordar on August 08, 2019, 06:28:13 PMAgreed.
I'm not that bothered about RB, as We have Christie/ SSess and Fossey.
DM and CB are a huge worry. Especially DM for me
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:57:09 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Have a feeling Bobby Reid might've signed going by Joe Bryan starting a hashtag about him...
And the photo with him and bobby as youths with #fulham
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:59:05 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:57:09 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Have a feeling Bobby Reid might've signed going by Joe Bryan starting a hashtag about him...
And the photo with him and bobby as youths with #fulham
And then Fulham's official page commenting on it
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:00:45 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:59:05 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 07:57:09 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Have a feeling Bobby Reid might've signed going by Joe Bryan starting a hashtag about him...
And the photo with him and bobby as youths with #fulham
Another loan with an option to purchase. How many loans now?
And then Fulham's official page commenting on it
And now it is confirmed.
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:03:27 PM
Is that 5 loans? Can only have 5 in a match day squad is that right?
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:05:23 PMIf it is true re hector (as in a deal sheet was registered) then hopefully not a loanQuote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:03:27 PM
Is that 5 loans? Can only have 5 in a match day squad is that right?
Correct.
Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2019, 08:14:24 PMThat's what i thought then some Journo put on twitter it was rumoured a deal sheet was submitted by Chelsea for his sale
Chelsea have already said earlier Hector is staying. So will not happen. Was in SSN.
Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2019, 08:14:24 PMSSN also said watford deal for sarr was off 25 mins later he signed
Chelsea have already said earlier Hector is staying. So will not happen. Was in SSN.
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:15:07 PMQuote from: brightster on August 08, 2019, 08:14:24 PMThat's what i thought then some Journo put on twitter it was rumoured a deal sheet was submitted by Chelsea for his sale
Chelsea have already said earlier Hector is staying. So will not happen. Was in SSN.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:23:58 PM
Hector joining in January... Spurs delayed funds for Sess and it held up the deal
Quote from: Nero on August 08, 2019, 08:26:01 PMQuote from: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:23:58 PM
Hector joining in January... Spurs delayed funds for Sess and it held up the deal
We knew the funds were coming surely we wouldn't break for by foing over for 2 hours
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 08:28:16 PM
If we take up all the options to purchase our loan players how much will it cost & how can we pay it & remain under FFP?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:29:49 PM
Sounds like tosh to me,2 hours wouldn't make any difference.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:31:24 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:29:49 PM
Sounds like tosh to me,2 hours wouldn't make any difference.
Surely unless the P&L was done today you wouldn't have really noticed. PR spin I think
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 08:28:16 PM
If we take up all the options to purchase our loan players how much will it cost & how can we pay it & remain under FFP?
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2019, 08:32:07 PMQuote from: supersimmo123 on August 08, 2019, 08:31:24 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:29:49 PM
Sounds like tosh to me,2 hours wouldn't make any difference.
Surely unless the P&L was done today you wouldn't have really noticed. PR spin I think
Would be a weird spin if we are indeed signing Hector in January.
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 08, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
Literally had one key area to strengthen this summer and couldn't sign one player. Very disappointed! Even with FFP looming, we've still signed 5 other players, surely one space could have been reserved for a centre back!
Bobby Reid is a luxury signing!
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 08:38:13 PMQuote from: BernieBoy on August 08, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
Literally had one key area to strengthen this summer and couldn't sign one player. Very disappointed! Even with FFP looming, we've still signed 5 other players, surely one space could have been reserved for a centre back!
Bobby Reid is a luxury signing!
They were waiting for Hector. Six signings, all of whom will probably be starters...plus Hector coming in January.
imo this was a good window.
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 08:39:34 PMSorry...not Bobby or Josh.Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 08:38:13 PMQuote from: BernieBoy on August 08, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
Literally had one key area to strengthen this summer and couldn't sign one player. Very disappointed! Even with FFP looming, we've still signed 5 other players, surely one space could have been reserved for a centre back!
Bobby Reid is a luxury signing!
They were waiting for Hector. Six signings, all of whom will probably be starters...plus Hector coming in January.
imo this was a good window.
How do you figure that they will all be starters?
Quote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:54:16 PM
I there a loan window? If so can we loan hector if not why not
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2019, 08:46:43 PM
We're playing 1-7-3 system.
No defence and 7 in midfield stopping them
getting through.😵
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:19:03 PM
Graeme Bailey
Michael Hector deal to Fulham collapsed last minute - whilst he was at training ground.
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Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 08:56:24 PMWe had 6 the year we went up, Ojo never got picked after we signed Targett and MitroQuote from: junior white on August 08, 2019, 08:54:16 PM
I there a loan window? If so can we loan hector if not why not
Nope, and we've used our quota anyway
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 09:21:11 PMI'd say the deal was ready but hinged on the sess money coming through?Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:19:03 PM
Graeme Bailey
Michael Hector deal to Fulham collapsed last minute - whilst he was at training ground.
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Wait...then NO Sessegnon deal then, right?
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:25:13 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 09:21:11 PMI'd say the deal was ready but hinged on the sess money coming through?Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:19:03 PM
Graeme Bailey
Michael Hector deal to Fulham collapsed last minute - whilst he was at training ground.
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Wait...then NO Sessegnon deal then, right?
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Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 09:29:16 PMDo t hunk he can just pump the cash in then take it back under FFP. Has to be rules around that, as stupid as FFP isQuote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:25:13 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 09:21:11 PMI'd say the deal was ready but hinged on the sess money coming through?Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2019, 09:19:03 PM
Graeme Bailey
Michael Hector deal to Fulham collapsed last minute - whilst he was at training ground.
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Wait...then NO Sessegnon deal then, right?
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I cant see how that makes sense. If the deal was agreed, we could spend the money knowing it was coming. Not like SK doesnt have the capital.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 08, 2019, 09:20:08 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £
Not doubting...but is there a link for this?
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PMQuote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team
You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PMAll other clubs reliant on funds managed it.Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team
You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PMAll other clubs reliant on funds managed it.Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team
You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:56:56 PMQuote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PMAll other clubs reliant on funds managed it.Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team
You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!
I agree that the Sess deal should be no excuse, but just out of interest, what other clubs reliant of funds that ultimately did not get released until 3.30 pm managed to get all their dealings done?
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 10:05:50 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:56:56 PMQuote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PMAll other clubs reliant on funds managed it.Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team
You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!
I agree that the Sess deal should be no excuse, but just out of interest, what other clubs reliant of funds that ultimately did not get released until 3.30 pm managed to get all their dealings done?
Ours isn't a funds issue in terms of lacking the money. We have it in our locker. But there was only so much more money we could lose in terms of FFP, that we had to wait to the Sess money comes in to balance the book.
No doubt, if we had bought Hector, and Sess fell through, we'd be inline for another FFP punishment.
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
as regards buying a house, it may be different in the UK, but I have bought several properties and don't really see the huge complexity, and also don't see why it should be much harder than buying a multi million pound footballer.
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:22:49 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
as regards buying a house, it may be different in the UK, but I have bought several properties and don't really see the huge complexity, and also don't see why it should be much harder than buying a multi million pound footballer.
Well I don't how it works in Sweden but here it's very complicated. Most purchases will be financed by a mortgage which involves a bank carrying out its own DD on the buyer(s) and the property and ultimately taking a legal charge against the property. The finance will normally subject to interest that's fixed for an initial period then floating with reference to the BoE base rate later. The buyer(s) DD will involve everything from radon to light obstruction to chancel repair, which is an obligation to contribute to the cost of repair of local churches. All property is held on trust under English law, usually by the legal owner on trust for themselves. When there's more than one owner their shares may be varied, either expressly, or impliedly by certain actions. If you're buying a leasehold property, technically you're taking assignment of the lease, will have been written decades ago, and that may include an obligation to become a shareholder in a management company that maintains the property. If you're buying a flat, your leasehold will likely only include the inner faces of your windows and door and not the outside, with restrictions on what you can do in relation to both. I reckon the foregoing covers about 10% of the issues arising in a property transaction and already it's more complex that signing a "multi-million pound footballer" (which, by the way, should be no more or less complex than signing a £10 footballer). It is infinitely more complex. End of, frankly.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 10:05:50 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:56:56 PMQuote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PMAll other clubs reliant on funds managed it.Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team
You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!
I agree that the Sess deal should be no excuse, but just out of interest, what other clubs reliant of funds that ultimately did not get released until 3.30 pm managed to get all their dealings done?
Ours isn't a funds issue in terms of lacking the money. We have it in our locker. But there was only so much more money we could lose in terms of FFP, that we had to wait to the Sess money comes in to balance the book.
No doubt, if we had bought Hector, and Sess fell through, we'd be inline for another FFP punishment.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:24:08 PMQuote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:22:49 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
as regards buying a house, it may be different in the UK, but I have bought several properties and don't really see the huge complexity, and also don't see why it should be much harder than buying a multi million pound footballer.
Well I don't how it works in Sweden but here it's very complicated. Most purchases will be financed by a mortgage which involves a bank carrying out its own DD on the buyer(s) and the property and ultimately taking a legal charge against the property. The finance will normally subject to interest that's fixed for an initial period then floating with reference to the BoE base rate later. The buyer(s) DD will involve everything from radon to light obstruction to chancel repair, which is an obligation to contribute to the cost of repair of local churches. All property is held on trust under English law, usually by the legal owner on trust for themselves. When there's more than one owner their shares may be varied, either expressly, or impliedly by certain actions. If you're buying a leasehold property, technically you're taking assignment of the lease, will have been written decades ago, and that may include an obligation to become a shareholder in a management company that maintains the property. If you're buying a flat, your leasehold will likely only include the inner faces of your windows and door and not the outside, with restrictions on what you can do in relation to both. I reckon the foregoing covers about 10% of the issues arising in a property transaction and already it's more complex that signing a "multi-million pound footballer" (which, by the way, should be no more or less complex than signing a £10 footballer). It is infinitely more complex. End of, frankly.
I've bought many houses here. It's not that complicated if you can follow simple instructions
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:22:49 PM
Well I don't how it works in Sweden but here it's very complicated. Most purchases will be financed by a mortgage which involves a bank carrying out its own DD on the buyer(s) and the property and ultimately taking a legal charge against the property. The finance will normally subject to interest that's fixed for an initial period then floating with reference to the BoE base rate later. The buyer(s) DD will involve everything from radon to light obstruction to chancel repair, which is an obligation to contribute to the cost of repair of local churches. All property is held on trust under English law, usually by the legal owner on trust for themselves. When there's more than one owner their shares may be varied, either expressly, or impliedly by certain actions. If you're buying a leasehold property, technically you're taking assignment of the lease, will have been written decades ago, and that may include an obligation to become a shareholder in a management company that maintains the property. If you're buying a flat, your leasehold will likely only include the inner faces of your windows and door and not the outside, with restrictions on what you can do in relation to both. I reckon the foregoing covers about 10% of the issues arising in a property transaction and already it's more complex that signing a "multi-million pound footballer" (which, by the way, should be no more or less complex than signing a £10 footballer). It is infinitely more complex. End of, frankly.
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 10:37:05 PMQuote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:22:49 PM
Well I don't how it works in Sweden but here it's very complicated. Most purchases will be financed by a mortgage which involves a bank carrying out its own DD on the buyer(s) and the property and ultimately taking a legal charge against the property. The finance will normally subject to interest that's fixed for an initial period then floating with reference to the BoE base rate later. The buyer(s) DD will involve everything from radon to light obstruction to chancel repair, which is an obligation to contribute to the cost of repair of local churches. All property is held on trust under English law, usually by the legal owner on trust for themselves. When there's more than one owner their shares may be varied, either expressly, or impliedly by certain actions. If you're buying a leasehold property, technically you're taking assignment of the lease, will have been written decades ago, and that may include an obligation to become a shareholder in a management company that maintains the property. If you're buying a flat, your leasehold will likely only include the inner faces of your windows and door and not the outside, with restrictions on what you can do in relation to both. I reckon the foregoing covers about 10% of the issues arising in a property transaction and already it's more complex that signing a "multi-million pound footballer" (which, by the way, should be no more or less complex than signing a £10 footballer). It is infinitely more complex. End of, frankly.
I would believe that the DD on a multi-million pound footballer would likely be more thorough than on a 10 pound footballer.
Regarding the house, I do understand that it most likely takes longer than buying a footballer, and also may have more aspects to consider. But most of what you list regarding properties seem to be the same as in Sweden, and therefore not very complicated. I also assume that there are standard contracts and inspections and that your banker will help you out with the financial just as the real estate broker (or whatever you have) assists in getting the paper work in order. I also notice that much of what you write has very little bearing on how complicated a deal would be, but more just an explanation of how things are (for example what forms part of a flat, or that you may have to become a shareholder in a management company). People do that every day, most of it is standard stuff, with lots of help available. Of course, if you handle everything by yourself, it would be rather complex (I for one would not be comfortable with doing all physical inspections myself), and if that is how you buy a house I agree that it is much more complex than buying a footballer.
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:46:48 PM
The DD on a footballer, whether they cost £20 or £20m, is a medical. That's it, surely?
I generally agree with your second paragraph but I'm not sure it contributes anything to your argument that buying a house isn't more complicated than buying a footballer. Yes it can be simplified by using standard forms and letting lawyers deal with it... so can the acquisition of a footballer
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 10:53:56 PMQuote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:46:48 PM
The DD on a footballer, whether they cost £20 or £20m, is a medical. That's it, surely?
I generally agree with your second paragraph but I'm not sure it contributes anything to your argument that buying a house isn't more complicated than buying a footballer. Yes it can be simplified by using standard forms and letting lawyers deal with it... so can the acquisition of a footballer
Probably no medical on a £20 footballer I would say.
My argument would be that in both cases lawyers etc. are generally used so neither transaction is normally overly complicated from the perspective of the buyer as it is mostly up to discussing price and 'pulling the trigger'.
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2019, 10:41:25 PM
To all those slagging off the Club for the failure to sign Hector, why not wait till after the FST meeting with the Club on 12 August before passing judgement
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:58:45 PM
I'm sorry but... what? Lol You've spent an hour discussing the complexities of buying a house on a football forum.
Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £
— Simon Peach (@SimonPeach) August 8, 2019
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:33:39 PM
Not sure how concrete this is, but it looks like Hector will be joining us in JanuarySounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £
— Simon Peach (@SimonPeach) August 8, 2019
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AMThe FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
Quote from: Arthur on August 09, 2019, 12:20:34 AMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 08, 2019, 11:33:39 PM
Not sure how concrete this is, but it looks like Hector will be joining us in JanuarySounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £
— Simon Peach (@SimonPeach) August 8, 2019
A lot can happen between now and January. For instance, what if Wednesday are still in for him and are better placed in the league?
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AMQuote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AMThe FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
Quote from: Danitar on August 09, 2019, 08:18:06 AM
Does anyone know if we got a sell on for sess or was onomah the 'sell on', if anyone knows that would be good to know?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on August 09, 2019, 08:39:22 AMQuote from: Danitar on August 09, 2019, 08:18:06 AM
Does anyone know if we got a sell on for sess or was onomah the 'sell on', if anyone knows that would be good to know?
I read Fulham can get an extra £5m in bonuses (e.g. play 20 games, represent England, sell on and/or win Ballon D'Or etc).
Quote from: bobby01 on August 09, 2019, 09:35:20 AM
Tbh I accept we had to wait for sess money, but surely to god hector could have been told we are waiting for money to sign you, there is a remote chance we won't get it. But if you have your medical and agree terms as soon as sess goes we can push this through. 3:30 till 5:00, or an extra period of time. Why could that not have been done, or were they so tied up in the reed/Reid deals they gave it little thought.
Quote from: spikey norman on August 09, 2019, 11:52:42 AMThese are meant to be the defenders without a club at the moment
We may still be able to strengthen the defence by signing players out of contract/released.
Are there any decent ones out there though?
Quote from: sarnian on August 09, 2019, 11:26:11 AMQuote from: bobby01 on August 09, 2019, 09:35:20 AM
Tbh I accept we had to wait for sess money, but surely to god hector could have been told we are waiting for money to sign you, there is a remote chance we won't get it. But if you have your medical and agree terms as soon as sess goes we can push this through. 3:30 till 5:00, or an extra period of time. Why could that not have been done, or were they so tied up in the reed/Reid deals they gave it little thought.
What has happened to Chelsea in the above. They have to be satisfied that the cash is available before they sanction the deal. There are Hector, Chelsea, Fulham and agents who all have to be satisfied before a deal can be completed. Could be many reason that the paperwork was not completed.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 09, 2019, 12:27:01 PM
Ashley Williams, Danny Simpson and Martin Olsson are all free agents, and IMO would fir what we're looking for at the back. Williams especially.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 09, 2019, 12:27:01 PM
Ashley Williams, Danny Simpson and Martin Olsson are all free agents, and IMO would fir what we're looking for at the back. Williams especially.
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AMQuote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AMQuote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AMThe FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.
Quote from: Roberty on August 09, 2019, 02:52:23 PMcan you not defer payments for loans like with big transfers, pound up front and the rest in 12 monthsQuote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AMQuote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AMQuote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AMThe FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.
Not possible - Chelski want and expected to get a fee for his transfer - he is in the last year of his contract and would have been ours for free at the end of any loan
Quote from: Roberty on August 09, 2019, 02:52:23 PMQuote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AMQuote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AMQuote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AMThe FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.
Not possible - Chelski want and expected to get a fee for his transfer - he is in the last year of his contract and would have been ours for free at the end of any loan
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 03:18:09 PMyes, I'm sure there would have been ways around it. But do we really know if we were even actually in for him.Quote from: Roberty on August 09, 2019, 02:52:23 PMQuote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AMQuote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AMQuote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AMThe FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.
Not possible - Chelski want and expected to get a fee for his transfer - he is in the last year of his contract and would have been ours for free at the end of any loan
well evidently they won't get a fee now until january, if at all.
as i said (in a part of my post which has been cropped) "If Chelsea didn't want him loaned out all season, they could have also had a recall clause such that if we don't exercise the option to buy on January 1st, they can recall him and sell him to another club."
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
yes, I'm sure there would have been ways around it. But do we really know if we were even actually in for him.
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 09, 2019, 03:26:33 PMI was watching Ssn for the run in and around 4 ish they said his move to Wednesday was off and Chelsea said he wasnt leaving. That was the last that he was mentioned on there.Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
yes, I'm sure there would have been ways around it. But do we really know if we were even actually in for him.
If reports are to be believed he was at Motspur Park, which suggest we were definitely in for him.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:29:43 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on August 09, 2019, 03:26:33 PMI was watching Ssn for the run in and around 4 ish they said his move to Wednesday was off and Chelsea said he wasnt leaving. That was the last that he was mentioned on there.Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
yes, I'm sure there would have been ways around it. But do we really know if we were even actually in for him.
If reports are to be believed he was at Motspur Park, which suggest we were definitely in for him.
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:24:34 PMI would be well happy if we could offload Fonte for anything approaching that, butt would not be optimistic.Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 10:05:50 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on August 08, 2019, 09:56:56 PMQuote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:54:35 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 08, 2019, 09:43:41 PMAll other clubs reliant on funds managed it.Quote from: David I on August 08, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
With one and a half hours to hit the transfer funds button it just doesn't make sense. Clear balls up by the finance team
You got vast experience in dealing with football deals? Guess not
Not as if we didn't know to prepare for it - common sense!
I agree that the Sess deal should be no excuse, but just out of interest, what other clubs reliant of funds that ultimately did not get released until 3.30 pm managed to get all their dealings done?
Ours isn't a funds issue in terms of lacking the money. We have it in our locker. But there was only so much more money we could lose in terms of FFP, that we had to wait to the Sess money comes in to balance the book.
No doubt, if we had bought Hector, and Sess fell through, we'd be inline for another FFP punishment.
The deal would have cost about £1-2m in this year's accounts. That would not push us over FFP. Even if it had, we could have made it back in January by off-loading someone like Fonte in an emergency cut-price deal.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 03:15:43 PMQuote from: Roberty on August 09, 2019, 02:52:23 PMcan you not defer payments for loans like with big transfers, pound up front and the rest in 12 monthsQuote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 07:51:35 AMQuote from: b+w geezer on August 09, 2019, 12:45:02 AMQuote from: Statto on August 09, 2019, 12:29:52 AMThe FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.
If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.
I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.
Not possible - Chelski want and expected to get a fee for his transfer - he is in the last year of his contract and would have been ours for free at the end of any loan
Quote from: The Rational Fan on August 10, 2019, 10:40:02 PM
You can defer payments but that makes no difference under the Accural Accounting System that FFP operates. In the end, once the player is committed to Fulham it has to be locked in the books. Loop holes are not easy with getting new players from other clubs.
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 12:49:15 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on August 10, 2019, 10:40:02 PM
You can defer payments but that makes no difference under the Accural Accounting System that FFP operates. In the end, once the player is committed to Fulham it has to be locked in the books. Loop holes are not easy with getting new players from other clubs.
As discussed before, even if deferred commitments must be accounted for immediately under FFP (I'm still not sure I accept that but anyway... ) there is no way that applies to something like an option to buy, which isn't even a 'commitment' unless and until we choose to exercise it. That's what I was suggesting regarding Hector.
In any case, my suggestion regarding Hector wasn't to defer the permanent transfer until a new FFP accounting period. It was just to defer it until we had confirmation that Sessegnon was going to spurs. So nothing to do with FFP.
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 08:35:13 AM
Roberty, if it's true the rules preclude a loan with an option to buy for a player in the last year of his contract, fair enough, I wasn't aware of that. Do you have a source for that?
Otherwise, if we were genuinely in for Hector, obviously we lost out there so TK didn't have the "winning hand".
Unfortunately the Companies Act accounts won't tell us anything we don't already know about FFP.
Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
Logic - not sure about loaning a player in the last year of his contract but he would be a free agent at the end of the loan so there could be no option to buy - that being the case he could have been a free transfer - but I guess Chelski as still hoping to get something in January.
Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
BUT are you saying that you would prefer to have Hector and lose any amount from the fee we got for Ryan?
Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
What do you know about the clubs position regarding FFP for the current season - NOTHING - you can guess, make up figures and pontificate as much as you like but it does not make them right - when the club submits whatever paperwork to the EFL - then we will know for sure what the actual position was. At that point MJG will magic up some figures and we all know if we were being told the truth
Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 10:27:18 AM
I'm glad that you agree with me - no one knows the truth about FFP until the accounts go off to the EFL and we have to accept what the club tells us until then
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 10:34:25 AMQuote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 10:27:18 AM
I'm glad that you agree with me - no one knows the truth about FFP until the accounts go off to the EFL and we have to accept what the club tells us until then
Don't be cretinous please. Fine to agree to disagree rather than having a long argument but that isn't what I said at all.
With me in charge instead of TK, we'd have signed Hector!! :hook:
cheerio
Quote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 10:41:58 AMQuote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 10:34:25 AMQuote from: Roberty on August 11, 2019, 10:27:18 AM
I'm glad that you agree with me - no one knows the truth about FFP until the accounts go off to the EFL and we have to accept what the club tells us until then
Don't be cretinous please. Fine to agree to disagree rather than having a long argument but that isn't what I said at all.
With me in charge instead of TK, we'd have signed Hector!! :hook:
cheerio
It is exactly what you said - you just used more words
. . . . and lost £10m PLUS on the RS transfer - brilliant strategy - especially given that Hector is hardly an upgrade on the cohort we already have on our books
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 11, 2019, 02:04:28 PM
I have it on good authority that the Hector deal breaking down was nothing to do with FFP. Moreso an issue with the agent being used on the deal. Hector has been told for a move to happen in Jan that the agent needs to be changed. I was also told Shad was in town for an investigation into signings made last season (Seri & MLM deal specifically). I was also told Seri and his agent are looking at legal action against the club as his loyalty fee/bonus he would have got as per his transfer fee to Fulham was manipulated by increasing the MLM fee in the double deal.
Also was told the Sess outgoing took so long because his agent (Salthouse) is under investigation with the FA and the fact he managed to get a move at all in the end was surprising. Nothing to do with the fee.
All sounds very concerning.
Nevertheless, for me we came out with a better squad and were a CB away from having an outstanding window so you have to be positive. After Ream performing so well yesterday, you would if we get to Jan injury free at the back with Mawson & Ream if Hector would be the final missing piece of the puzzle or if we are flying high, we may look at other targets.
I expect TK to hold fire on any potential deal for the next couple of months to see where we are at.
Quote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 02:54:47 PM
Damning Onamoh reviews online at the moment.
What have we done?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/10/aston-villa-and-sheffield-wednesday-fans-mock-fulhams-josh-onoma/
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 11, 2019, 03:04:05 PMQuote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 02:54:47 PM
Damning Onamoh reviews online at the moment.
What have we done?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/10/aston-villa-and-sheffield-wednesday-fans-mock-fulhams-josh-onoma/
Does that really count as journalism? It's essentially clickbait.
Quote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 03:07:40 PMQuote from: 70sPimlico on August 11, 2019, 03:04:05 PMQuote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 02:54:47 PM
Damning Onamoh reviews online at the moment.
What have we done?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/10/aston-villa-and-sheffield-wednesday-fans-mock-fulhams-josh-onoma/
Does that really count as journalism? It's essentially clickbait.
Well.. not journalism but an amalgamation of social media which is surely better as its multiple views rather than a single journalist? Although I admit they could've been selective.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 11, 2019, 03:10:01 PMQuote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 03:07:40 PMQuote from: 70sPimlico on August 11, 2019, 03:04:05 PMQuote from: Milo on August 11, 2019, 02:54:47 PM
Damning Onamoh reviews online at the moment.
What have we done?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/10/aston-villa-and-sheffield-wednesday-fans-mock-fulhams-josh-onoma/
Does that really count as journalism? It's essentially clickbait.
Well.. not journalism but an amalgamation of social media which is surely better as its multiple views rather than a single journalist? Although I admit they could've been selective.
I'd say
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 04:01:00 PM
Given Reid, Cavaleiro, Knockaert and Arter were all fantastic players in the Championship in recent years, I think the we can be forgiven for buying one player whose reputation isn't quite as good. Plus as far as I'm concerned we've signed Onomah for nothing because even £25m, with no extras, would have been a fantastic fee to get for Sessegnon. In any case I attach zero value to other clubs' fans comments about their departing players. I can still remember Wolves fans mocking us for signing Mcdonald shortly before we made him a linchpin in the best midfield in the division.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 11, 2019, 07:01:11 PM
He's a risk free potential option in a deal with one of our talents. Parker thinks, rightly or wrongly, that he and the coaching staff can harness and direct his talent so its a bit of a 'good luck to them' job. If it doesn't work out, ah well, no biggy. Would be different if we were relying on him to produce but anything more squad depth, and its a win in my book.
Quote from: spikey norman on August 12, 2019, 07:00:56 PM
One of our ex players Andy Lonergan on the verge of joining Liverpool.
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on August 12, 2019, 09:28:29 PMQuote from: spikey norman on August 12, 2019, 07:00:56 PM
One of our ex players Andy Lonergan on the verge of joining Liverpool.
Didn't he play a full pre-season with them? What happened with that?
Quote from: Statto on August 11, 2019, 04:01:00 PM
Given Reid, Cavaleiro, Knockaert and Arter were all fantastic players in the Championship in recent years, I think the we can be forgiven for buying one player whose reputation isn't quite as good. Plus as far as I'm concerned we've signed Onomah for nothing because even £25m, with no extras, would have been a fantastic fee to get for Sessegnon. In any case I attach zero value to other clubs' fans comments about their departing players. I can still remember Wolves fans mocking us for signing Mcdonald shortly before we made him a linchpin in the best midfield in the division.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 11, 2019, 05:50:41 PMyep, I can recall Cardiff fans being delighted when we swapped jazz Richard's for malone 🤣. And huddersfield town fans hated malone when they signed him. Everyone gets a clean slate at a new club, and you just have to wait and see how it pans out
I am not at all bothered what fans of other clubs think about Josh Onomah. He should be another good addition to the squad for Fulham.
It's a short cycle journey from Tottenham to Fulham, so no disruption or upheaval for him, and it's a smart move and Scott would know enough about him, and he can only get better. I have no qualms about Fulham acquiring his signature. It's a long hard season and his contribution will be valued.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2019, 02:46:53 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 11, 2019, 05:50:41 PMyep, I can recall Cardiff fans being delighted when we swapped jazz Richard's for malone 🤣. And huddersfield town fans hated malone when they signed him. Everyone gets a clean slate at a new club, and you just have to wait and see how it pans out
I am not at all bothered what fans of other clubs think about Josh Onomah. He should be another good addition to the squad for Fulham.
It's a short cycle journey from Tottenham to Fulham, so no disruption or upheaval for him, and it's a smart move and Scott would know enough about him, and he can only get better. I have no qualms about Fulham acquiring his signature. It's a long hard season and his contribution will be valued.
Quote from: Twig on August 13, 2019, 07:20:33 PMyep pantsil springs to mindQuote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2019, 02:46:53 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 11, 2019, 05:50:41 PMyep, I can recall Cardiff fans being delighted when we swapped jazz Richard's for malone 🤣. And huddersfield town fans hated malone when they signed him. Everyone gets a clean slate at a new club, and you just have to wait and see how it pans out
I am not at all bothered what fans of other clubs think about Josh Onomah. He should be another good addition to the squad for Fulham.
It's a short cycle journey from Tottenham to Fulham, so no disruption or upheaval for him, and it's a smart move and Scott would know enough about him, and he can only get better. I have no qualms about Fulham acquiring his signature. It's a long hard season and his contribution will be valued.
And we have a decent past record where such players have stepped up and become firm fans' favourites
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 13, 2019, 09:04:32 PMyep pantsil springs to mind
And we have a decent past record where such players have stepped up and become firm fans' favourites
Quote from: Riverside on August 19, 2019, 10:20:24 PM
This thread now closed ?
Any rumours of exits to Europe ?
I thought Djalo , Fonte , Cisse and Fabri would all be going ?
( though personally I would keep Fabri )
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Quote from: twang on August 20, 2019, 10:48:50 AM
Fonte apparently on his way back to Braga:
https://www.jn.pt/desporto/interior/rui-fonte-e-reforco-do-sporting-de-braga--11222424.html
Quote from: twang on August 20, 2019, 10:48:50 AM
Fonte apparently on his way back to Braga:
https://www.jn.pt/desporto/interior/rui-fonte-e-reforco-do-sporting-de-braga--11222424.html
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 20, 2019, 02:11:46 PMQuote from: twang on August 20, 2019, 10:48:50 AM
Fonte apparently on his way back to Braga:
https://www.jn.pt/desporto/interior/rui-fonte-e-reforco-do-sporting-de-braga--11222424.html
Pleased for him. and us
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 21, 2019, 11:11:55 AMCan't see Kamara leaving at this stage.
If this rumour is accurate then it is the start of clearing the books of those who didn't quite make it at Fulham. Fonte is one who for my mind always gave his very best and was hugely committed to the club. Sadly it never worked out for him or FFC. Wish him well at his new club. Others who could be on their way for differing reasons are Fabri, Djalo, Cisse, Kamara. I would keep Kebano who always looks as if there is more to come from him.
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 21, 2019, 11:11:55 AM
If this rumour is accurate then it is the start of clearing the books of those who didn't quite make it at Fulham. Fonte is one who for my mind always gave his very best and was hugely committed to the club. Sadly it never worked out for him or FFC. Wish him well at his new club. Others who could be on their way for differing reasons are Fabri, Djalo, Cisse, Kamara. I would keep Kebano who always looks as if there is more to come from him.
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on August 22, 2019, 08:52:09 AM
Not a Kamara fan, but agree that he has more or is at least likely to be more effective, than Kebano.
Best of luck to Fonte - with the exception of Ipswich away he always looked like a fish out of water.
Quote from: Tabby on August 23, 2019, 06:01:00 PMBeen terrible for the last few seasons and an odd character.
Can strike Ashley Williams off the possible free agents as Bristol City has signed him.
Quote from: Riverside on August 28, 2019, 08:51:53 AM
Djalo gone
As I said before I think Fabri and Cisse will follow
However based on last nights team selection I think Ayite and Kebano may well be going too. Or were they injured ?
I think both are useful back up and Ayite especially I would keep.
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Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 28, 2019, 09:30:51 AMQuote from: Riverside on August 28, 2019, 08:51:53 AM
Djalo gone
As I said before I think Fabri and Cisse will follow
However based on last nights team selection I think Ayite and Kebano may well be going too. Or were they injured ?
I think both are useful back up and Ayite especially I would keep.
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I reckon that he's confident with what Ayite could bring to the table, and wanted to see Reid, Kamara and DLT more.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 28, 2019, 01:04:11 PM
https://t.co/QKrXf3SQAL
Not sure how believable this is.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 28, 2019, 01:04:11 PM
https://t.co/QKrXf3SQAL
Not sure how believable this is.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 28, 2019, 01:44:12 PMQuote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 28, 2019, 01:04:11 PM
https://t.co/QKrXf3SQAL
Not sure how believable this is.
No thanks,bad injury and not been same since.