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Title: nfr aston villa
Post by: ALG01 on May 14, 2019, 10:35:43 PM
3 play off games in a row they have an opposition  player sent off
all deserved but strange nonetheless
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: Nick Bateman on May 14, 2019, 10:48:11 PM
1st leg was completely underserved - Graham Scott must have been a Villa fan from a previous life.  Surprised that goalkeepers like to dive out of the way of penalties, if they did that in normal play they would let in 100s of goals a season.
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: glenhodgso on May 14, 2019, 10:49:23 PM
I assume at Wembley they will need to arrange two opponents to be sent off......
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: grandad on May 14, 2019, 10:51:30 PM
The Villa GK was jumping around every time.I thought his feet had to be stationery at the time the pen was taken. A GK can wave his arms & sway from side to side but the feet must be planted.
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: JoelH5 on May 14, 2019, 10:55:22 PM
That's given me a lot of optimism for next year. The quality in that match was shocking.
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: Sting of the North on May 14, 2019, 11:01:38 PM
Quote from: grandad on May 14, 2019, 10:51:30 PM
The Villa GK was jumping around every time.I thought his feet had to be stationery at the time the pen was taken. A GK can wave his arms & sway from side to side but the feet must be planted.

I think they changed that rule many many moons ago. I believe they are allowed to move sideways (or backwards) as much as they like, but obviously not forward. Unless they changed the rules again.
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: Sting of the North on May 14, 2019, 11:04:10 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on May 14, 2019, 10:35:43 PM
3 play off games in a row they have an opposition  player sent off
all deserved but strange nonetheless

I agree, kind of. Think Odoi's first yellow was completely incorrect. The second was correct though.
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: Syd Cupp on May 15, 2019, 12:00:07 AM
In a way I hope that Villa go up so that I dont have to witness Jack Grealish next season.
He may have some good flair and playing skills but his dives, Injury feigning and bad tackles
for me always outstrip his positives.
Plus he seems to have gained the John Terry moan to the ref attitude on just about anything.
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: Andy S on May 15, 2019, 01:25:28 AM
I think Villa have had all their luck in the first leg I think they will get beaten at Wembley for the second year running. However should they win they will struggle as we did
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: bog on May 15, 2019, 08:30:03 AM
They keep on banging about about Jack Grealish. If they do make it will he sink or swim?   :022:

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Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 15, 2019, 08:36:26 AM
Quote from: bog on May 15, 2019, 08:30:03 AM
They keep on banging about about Jack Grealish. If they do make it will he sink or swim?   :022:

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He has a dinghy and a lifebelt.
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: Sting of the North on May 15, 2019, 08:45:50 AM
Quote from: bog on May 15, 2019, 08:30:03 AM
They keep on banging about about Jack Grealish. If they do make it will he sink or swim?   :022:

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I am fairly sure that he will have no trouble adapting to the PL. Class player, regardless of whether you like him or not.
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: toshes mate on May 15, 2019, 08:46:29 AM
Quote from: ALG01 on May 14, 2019, 10:35:43 PM
3 play off games in a row they have an opposition  player sent off
all deserved but strange nonetheless
Disagree with you about Gayle from the first leg, which meant they lost him for a further two games.  Brunt deserved his two yellows but with Gayle on the pitch who knows what may have happened?
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: toshes mate on May 15, 2019, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 15, 2019, 08:45:50 AM
Quote from: bog on May 15, 2019, 08:30:03 AM
They keep on banging about about Jack Grealish. If they do make it will he sink or swim?   :022:

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I am fairly sure that he will have no trouble adapting to the PL. Class player, regardless of whether you like him or not.
For sure he is a class act in the Villa side but his team have to get to the PL first, and that may prove quite tricky for them against either of the teams playing tonight.  I wasn't impressed by what I saw from Villa in their two play off matches thus far both against ten men for some of the game.
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: peter w on May 15, 2019, 10:51:58 AM
You have to remember that in both games Albion packed their defence and midfield trying to nick a goal from either the counter or from a set-piece. That's what they did twice. Only one team tried to play football but Albion stuck to their Pulisball principles and tried to stifle the game. As for the sendings off - Gayle was rightly shown the second yellow. The challnege was no better than a 40-60 against him when he caught Steer. 15 or so minutes earlier after his first booking he was lucky to not get another yellow when he went straight through the back of someone. Then he tried to pull a bamford by going down as if smashed by a sledgehammer.

We weren't at our best, no, but difficult to play against a team that try to stop you playing football first and then nick something second. You could say that football was the winner...
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: ALG01 on May 15, 2019, 01:59:14 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on May 14, 2019, 11:01:38 PM
Quote from: grandad on May 14, 2019, 10:51:30 PM
The Villa GK was jumping around every time.I thought his feet had to be stationery at the time the pen was taken. A GK can wave his arms & sway from side to side but the feet must be planted.

I think they changed that rule many many moons ago. I believe they are allowed to move sideways (or backwards) as much as they like, but obviously not forward. Unless they changed the rules again.

That is correct but you cannot move forward from the line, in fact I thought you had to stay on it until the kick was taken. In the old days the keeper had less chance because his feet had to be still and why grobbelar's antics were so interesting in putting off the taker.
Title: Re: nfr aston villa
Post by: ALG01 on May 15, 2019, 02:01:21 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on May 15, 2019, 08:46:29 AM
Quote from: ALG01 on May 14, 2019, 10:35:43 PM
3 play off games in a row they have an opposition  player sent off
all deserved but strange nonetheless
Disagree with you about Gayle from the first leg, which meant they lost him for a further two games.  Brunt deserved his two yellows but with Gayle on the pitch who knows what may have happened?

i thought even the wba manager conceded gayle may have been harshly treated but he was stupid with the second yellow incident... never give the ref a decsion to make unless it is absolutely vital.