Fulham striker Aboubakar Kamara given chance to resurrect career at Craven Cottage following relegation
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Kamara was cast out on loan to Turkish side Yeni Malatyaspor for the second half of the season
Controversial striker Aboubakar Kamara will be given a chance to resurrect his Fulham career by Scott Parker.
Kamara was cast out on loan to Turkish side Yeni Malatyaspor for the second half of the season after he was arrested in January on suspicion of actual bodily harm and criminal damage, following allegations of a fight at Fulham's training ground.
Parker wants the 24-year-old to return for pre-season training, when he will assess his squad and weigh up whether to keep him.
Kamara joined Fulham from French club Amiens for £5million in 2017.
Stefan Johansen, who spent the second half of the season on loan at West Brom, will also return to Fulham in pre-season
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Not sure he deserves it, loose cannon needs to grow up. Let's hope he can.
Everyone (almost everyone) deserves a second chance I hope he takes it, Should be noted there never seemed to be issues when SJ was in charge maybe it was just a clash with CR. Fingers crossed
He didn't do much in Turkey so how easy would it be for us to get rid of him?
I would have thought that the MP incident would have been enough to sack him. Someone was too soft and it was not Scotty.
As mentioned before, the people at the club are surely in a much better position to determine whether or not they feel that Kamara deserves another chance. If they don't want him back that will surely be sorted. If they do want him back, then great since he is a good Championship player with great upside. I for one trust that Parker can sort him out, if there even is a need.
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Everyone (almost everyone) deserves a second chance I hope he takes it, Should be noted there never seemed to be issues when SJ was in charge maybe it was just a clash with CR. Fingers crossed
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Everyone (almost everyone) deserves a second chance I hope he takes it, Should be noted there never seemed to be issues when SJ was in charge maybe it was just a clash with CR. Fingers crossed
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I don't object to him getting another chance. I just don't rate him.
Quote from: junior white on May 17, 2019, 11:54:41 AM
Everyone (almost everyone) deserves a second chance I hope he takes it, Should be noted there never seemed to be issues when SJ was in charge maybe it was just a clash with CR. Fingers crossed
This is his third chance in my eyes, came back after the penalty fiasco and then blew up in training.
He sounds like he is poison for the dressing room, don't want him back. In any case he is not a good footballer either.
He will frighten the life out of some of those Championship defences with his running at them.
Good news if true - get your head down mate, work hard. Mitro will leave so we need a goal scorer.
Considering he's under contract until 2021 we have no choice but to "welcome him back" unless we can unload his beforehand.
A classic putting two and two together piece of journalism from the Sub-Standard.
My biggest problem with him he now has a solid reputation as a diver in England, and it's bad enough before his problems last season.
Any tackle could result in a yellow card for him.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on May 17, 2019, 12:37:18 PM
Considering he's under contract until 2021 we have no choice but to "welcome him back" unless we can unload his beforehand.
A classic putting two and two together piece of journalism from the Sub-Standard.
Well I guess we could have just continued to seek loan deals to keep him away from the club and cover all or part of his wages.
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My biggest problem with him he now has a solid reputation as a diver in England, and it's bad enough before his problems last season.
Any tackle could result in a yellow card for him.
Surely he has no bigger reputation as a diver than many others (although he is probably the one with the least talent for diving). Can't think of one single player whose impact seem to be seriously affected by being labeled as a diver. So what if he gets an occasional wrongful yellow card for diving. If that is the biggest problem then I am fine with it.
He can do a good job for us back in the Championship, and I hope he returns.
I think Parker will communicate well with him, and there will be mutual respect, and I'm sure he'll know he won't get any more chances if his behaviour is out of order. On the pitch he needs to keep that edge, but try and stay the right side of the officials - like Mitro, most of the time, these days.
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Everyone (almost everyone) deserves a second chance I hope he takes it, Should be noted there never seemed to be issues when SJ was in charge maybe it was just a clash with CR. Fingers crossed
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This is his third chance in my eyes, came back after the penalty fiasco and then blew up in training.
He sounds like he is poison for the dressing room, don't want him back. In any case he is not a good footballer either.
Now we will see if Scotty can manage. I have always rated Kamara and i hope this works out
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Now we will see if Scotty can manage. I have always rated Kamara and i hope this works out
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Nobody says he will be kept but we paid 5m for him and he isn't going for nothing
I would expect that senior players would have been consulted on whether he would be welcome back in to the fold and if they and Scott are happy to welcome him back thats good enough for me, does he dive maybe but look at football as a whole they all go down easy
He had a second chance when he wasn't axed after the penalty incident. He's on about his third.
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If he does come back for pre season training, he will massively need to sort himself out. If the stories were to be believed, constantly late for training.
Hope he improves his manner of dealing with folk, otherwise Mitro may just take "excecutive action"
Kamara had always provided that huge spark for about 45minutes or so.
Hopefully Parker can tame his playing style and character too.
Whilst I retain more appreciation for 'Boubs than many on here, the article is a bit thin. The headline could equally read "Fulham management support directors in fulfilment of fiduciary duty to safeguard value of company assets".
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Bye-bye mitro then?
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Everyone (almost everyone) deserves a second chance I hope he takes it, Should be noted there never seemed to be issues when SJ was in charge maybe it was just a clash with CR. Fingers crossed
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+3 and as CR said Sess needed to be fitter, when SJ said he was one of the fittest at the club, you have to ask if CR was the problem not AK (not excusing the alleged assault tho')
Quote from: Twig on May 17, 2019, 12:16:05 PM
I don't object to him getting another chance. I just don't rate him.
+1. Struggled to get in the side in our last stint in the championship. Don't see what more he can offer other than cameo roles
Quote from: Fernhurst on May 17, 2019, 02:58:53 PM
If the stories were to be believed, constantly late for training.
I'm sure no one wants to resurrect the lengthy debate we had on here a couple of months ago, but IIRC the "stories" about this were purely a lighthearted interview Cairney did for Soccer AM where he said McDonald was miserable and moaned about everything, Johansen would leave training at the earliest opportunity and never do anything club-related that he wasn't forced to, and Kamara was often 15 minutes late finishing his breakfast before training started.
Amazing how Chinese whispers between fans can blow something like this out of all proportion.
A bit like the rumour that it was Parker who worked out that Chambers could play DM...
The trouble with AK is that he is so selfish and will shoot wildly at every opportunity...never seems to be aware of his team mates being in better positions to score. Just watch the top teams and how most of their goals come from simple tap-ins because they work as a team and are not afraid to share the ball.
Unless he learns to change his ways, I wouldn't want him and his selfish attitude back.
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The trouble with AK is that he is so selfish and will shoot wildly at every opportunity...never seems to be aware of his team mates being in better positions to score. Just watch the top teams and how most of their goals come from simple tap-ins because they work as a team and are not afraid to share the ball.
Unless he learns to change his ways, I wouldn't want him and his selfish attitude back.
This sounds like how Mitro behaved as well for most of this season. No big issue to me, but of course would wish him to become more of a team player.
Glad to hear that news, he can do a good job for us in the Championship.
Also agree fully with Statto above. Amazing how things are blown out of proportion.
Good news if true - he's something that championship defences will struggle to deal with because he's just so quick and strong. If Parker can use him effectively then he'll be a decent asset to us next season. Many seem to forget that at the end of the season he was starting games on merit - he was vital in the Sunderland win and then started the playoff semi final second and the final on merit, causing both Villa and Derby's defences a nightmare for the time he was on the pitch.
Well that is a load on Paker's shoulders but if he can control AK47 then that will be of benefit as with his pace ,strength and enthusiasm he should do a good job on the field.
I still hope he can prove his worth as a Championship player. The charge sheet on his list of crimes hardly registers when compared to other problem players over the years, how the game has changed.
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I don't object to him getting another chance. I just don't rate him.
+1. Struggled to get in the side in our last stint in the championship. Don't see what more he can offer other than cameo roles
He has speed, no question. Balance? Ball control? Touch? Not in my opinion and I don't see how these things will change at this stage in his career.
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I don't object to him getting another chance. I just don't rate him.
+1. Struggled to get in the side in our last stint in the championship. Don't see what more he can offer other than cameo roles
He has speed, no question. Balance? Ball control? Touch? Not in my opinion and I don't see how these things will change at this stage in his career.
If Kamara had proficient balance, ball control and touch he'd be playing for a bigger club than Fulham.
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Everyone (almost everyone) deserves a second chance I hope he takes it, Should be noted there never seemed to be issues when SJ was in charge maybe it was just a clash with CR. Fingers crossed
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I'm all for AK coming back. He offers little bursts of energy and unpredictability if nothing else. You can guarantee we are going to be the big team with all the other teams aiming to beat us. Our slow predictable build up needs to be mixed up with a bit of rawness, pace and as I say unpredictability.
Wouldn't excuse the lad for his actions at the training ground , but the whole club was absolutely toxic, and it was just after his manager said he wanted to kill him for Christ sake. Might have been in jest , but could also have been a resentful statement lost in informal translation and taken a different way.
Whatever happened, Scott needs a full squad to choose from through the summer and needs as many options as possible. He may end up being sold, so it's vital he's back with the group proving his fitness and ability to potential suitors instead of somewhere obscure in Turkey
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I don't object to him getting another chance. I just don't rate him.
+1. Struggled to get in the side in our last stint in the championship. Don't see what more he can offer other than cameo roles
He has speed, no question. Balance? Ball control? Touch? Not in my opinion and I don't see how these things will change at this stage in his career.
If Kamara had proficient balance, ball control and touch he'd be playing for a bigger club than Fulham.
So we put up with a speedster with no talent? Ok but I think we are better than that.
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I don't object to him getting another chance. I just don't rate him.
+1. Struggled to get in the side in our last stint in the championship. Don't see what more he can offer other than cameo roles
He has speed, no question. Balance? Ball control? Touch? Not in my opinion and I don't see how these things will change at this stage in his career.
If Kamara had proficient balance, ball control and touch he'd be playing for a bigger club than Fulham.
So we put up with a speedster with no talent? Ok but I think we are better than that.
Most teams in the top two divisions have at least one forward that fits this description though they don't necessarily lead the line or play every game. We shouldn't turn our noses up at it or believe that we're "above" using players of this ilk.
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I don't object to him getting another chance. I just don't rate him.
+1. Struggled to get in the side in our last stint in the championship. Don't see what more he can offer other than cameo roles
He has speed, no question. Balance? Ball control? Touch? Not in my opinion and I don't see how these things will change at this stage in his career.
If Kamara had proficient balance, ball control and touch he'd be playing for a bigger club than Fulham.
So we put up with a speedster with no talent? Ok but I think we are better than that.
he certainly has talent. Attitude we will see
The two players that came off the bench more than anyone else in 17/18 were Kamara and Kebano, if we can build a squad strong enough that Kamara never needs to play 90 minutes but often plays 20 minutes that would be very good. We need four to five forwards better than Kamara, he is an excellent sixth forward in the squad. TK keep buying! as AK47 is only a very good bit player nothing more and nothing less.
Still think he has potential; if he really wants to play and Scott is able to get the best out of him.
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Still think he has potential; if he really wants to play and Scott is able to get the best out of him.
Kamara is the kind of player that eight games into the season, everyone is criticising Tony Khan for not getting an upgrade. TK please, keep Kamara but buy the upgrade.
We need lots of forwards in the Summer Transfer Window. If we lose Sessegnon on a transfer and Mitro get injuried, then we are really short of options. We need to accept Atyie, Kamara, Fonte, Kebano and Elliott are all bench and squad players.
From the 17/18, we won't have Sessegnon, Piazon, Ojo and Fredricks, these are the four players we most need to replace, plus we need cover for Mawson (Kalas would do) and Mitro (Dwight Gayle would be ideal).
We getting desperate having him back...Parker out. :022:
think the best way to describe Ak is his legs are quicker than his brain which leads to a lack of composure
To those who are quick to condemn AK, and the alleged misdemeanors which all occurred while CR was in charge, perhaps JFK offered prophetic advice when saying "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". FFC can always give AK a free transfer and pay off his contract if things really were that bad (and therefore still are which I do not for one moment believe to be true). The propaganda machine always stoops lowest when it has been found out in other ways.
SP, thank goodness, is not another CR, and I do believe AK will be just fine. As regards football ability well let's see if he can live up to and exceed his comparatively modest transfer tag.
Whatever side of the fence you sit on regarding Kamara, if we do give him a second chance in the squad, imagine the reaction towards him at the first mistake he makes in the season?
And I think we can all agree it won't be long before he misses an open goal/gets sent off for violent conduct or diving/refuses to pass to a team mate in a better position in order to take a shot. Etc etc
I've noticed three things about the endlessly fascinating Kamara.
When he's nervous, his first touch is like concrete. When he's relaxed it's fine. It's vital that the crowd gets behind him.
Football has many dimensions, but none is more important than winning a personal battle with your marker. He's just horrible to mark and doesn't back down. How many have we had like that this year?
He reliably gets me out of my seat. Irritating for the nice chap who sits behind me, but a sign I'm being entertained. Of course it mostly goes wrong, but he tries stuff. Sometimes it goes right.
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Whatever side of the fence you sit on regarding Kamara, if we do give him a second chance in the squad, imagine the reaction towards him at the first mistake he makes in the season?
And I think we can all agree it won't be long before he misses an open goal/gets sent off for violent conduct or diving/refuses to pass to a team mate in a better position in order to take a shot. Etc etc
When has Kamara ever shown himself to be violent on a football pitch? The only time he's ever shown frustration towards another player was against Bristol City and that red was rescinded because it was proven that the Bristol player feigned injury. As for missing chances or refusing to pass, I lost count of the amount of times Mitro did that this season so he won't be the only one.
Quote from: Carborundum on May 18, 2019, 10:34:41 AM
Football has many dimensions, but none is more important than winning a personal battle with your marker. He's just horrible to mark and doesn't back down. How many have we had like that this year?
He reliably gets me out of my seat. Irritating for the nice chap who sits behind me, but a sign I'm being entertained. Of course it mostly goes wrong, but he tries stuff. Sometimes it goes right.
Agree.
He also improved a lot last year. People seem to forget what an important player he was at the business end of the season, up their with Cairney and Mitrovic. He showed a major better trajectory than Sessegnon has this season. On that basis, if we had one on each wing next year and you asked me to predict who'll be more important for us, I'd be inclined to say Kamara.
IF Mitro does go we'll need a penalty taker and we know AK will take them
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IF Mitro does go we'll need a penalty taker and we know AK will take them
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I think him and Mitro (who I think will stay for at least another season) up front would certainly scare
the cr*p out of defenses.
The point about being selfish with shooting chances, many good strikers are like
that, but Kamara does have a lot more to his game and like Mitro his first touch,
bullying, hold up play "and pace" and knock downs/layoffs will provide loads of
chances for our midfielders. Johansen, TC, will thrive on them
He's the pacy winger we're looking for as well and does tackle back.
Don't smooth off his rough edges, defenders hate UNPREDICTABILITY especially on a muddy oitches.
He's very lucky to still be here but he needs to keep his nose clean.
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I don't object to him getting another chance. I just don't rate him.
+1. Struggled to get in the side in our last stint in the championship. Don't see what more he can offer other than cameo roles
He has speed, no question. Balance? Ball control? Touch? Not in my opinion and I don't see how these things will change at this stage in his career.
If Kamara had proficient balance, ball control and touch he'd be playing for a bigger club than Fulham.
So we put up with a speedster with no talent? Ok but I think we are better than that.
Most teams in the top two divisions have at least one forward that fits this description though they don't necessarily lead the line or play every game. We shouldn't turn our noses up at it or believe that we're "above" using players of this ilk.
I'd rather sign Cameron Jerome if we're going to have that type of player on the squad. He's 32, but Ryan Babel proved that there might still be a good 2 years left in Cameron.
He's faster than Odoi...probably faster than Sess...probably equal in pace to AK47...and he's taller than Aboukar.
"He will frighten the life out of some of those Championship defences with his running at them."
Sadly not through his football ability. Total waster. Get rid
Just rewatched the home and away playoff games against Derby from last season.
AK47 offers something that my suggested player (Cameron Jerome) doesn't.
I'd still like Jerome as a backup striker...but AK47 on his day is a decent winger. One that could start in the championship and be dangerous.
I hate players that dive (especially those that do it poorly) and I hate player insubordination...but thinking about the team...I'd take AK47 back for one season.
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Just rewatched the home and away playoff games against Derby from last season.
AK47 offers something that my suggested player (Cameron Jerome) doesn't.
I'd still like Jerome as a backup striker...but AK47 on his day is a decent winger. One that could start in the championship and be dangerous.
I hate players that dive (especially those that do it poorly) and I hate player insubordination...but thinking about the team...I'd take AK47 back for one season.
Next years team requires chemistry and bench players often take longer to integrate into a team than players that play every game, we would wise to keep our decent bench players rather than integrate new ones.
Three First XI Forwards plus Atyie, Kamara, Piazon, Kebano, Fonte, Torres and Elliott would be perfect.
So we put up with a speedster with no talent? Ok but I think we are better than that.
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I've got to disagree, he does have talent, he is not just a speedstir and a headless chicken.
albeit a bit raw at the moment.,
His first touch is often as good as many in our squad
Given a chance and 'managed properly' he could be a big player for us next season.
Someone knows it at the club and he's been called back from being loaned out.
I hope that person is Scott
Kamara deserves a spot in the squad and will surely challenge those in the starting XI for a spot. He can prove himself coming off the bench.
Great news, can't wait.
Kamara do have talent, what he is probably lacking is pacing.
When you drained most of your energy around the 30 min mark, the rest of your game will definitely suffer.
Before Mitrovic came along, Kamara was starting to get on fire for us. If he can find that form and confidence again, I think he will be a good enough starter. My issue was his attitude/drama, but have to consider the fact that Ranieri sure seemed to have a do a number on him. Forgive and forget the way I see it. So excited for our upcoming season.
Quote from: ..FOF.. on May 20, 2019, 03:19:54 AM
Kamara do have talent, what he is probably lacking is pacing.
When you drained most of your energy around the 30 min mark, the rest of your game will definitely suffer.
FFC need to purchase a forward or two that can run for 90 minutes of football, especially as we are losing one called Sessegnon.
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Kamara do have talent, what he is probably lacking is pacing.
When you drained most of your energy around the 30 min mark, the rest of your game will definitely suffer.
FFC need to purchase a forward or two that can run for 90 minutes of football, especially as we are losing one called Sessegnon.
Surely at his age he can build up the right strength and fitness to be able to play full ability for 90 mins.
Maybe, he also needs to be taught how to take a breather during games, if necessary.
It's all down to experience.
I think he be an important player for us in the Championship, as he was starting to be before we went up- playing a role in the semi and Final.