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Title: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2019, 02:33:53 PM
Think it maybe a good idea to have a dedicated thread, so we can update on progress with the Riverside. If you have any, or, come across any pictures, please post them here.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8YKEacXoAAKvjJ?format=jpg&name=small)

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 03:11:48 PM
Just thinking that yesterday.

This is terrific, diggers and stuff and men beavering away.
I will visit every time there is an update
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 03:37:04 PM
Have they struck oil yet  ?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fulham1959 on June 06, 2019, 03:41:54 PM
Actually, they're searching for the Michael Jackson statue.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: sunburywhite on June 06, 2019, 03:56:07 PM
Actually, they're searching for the Michael Jackson statue.

or Mark Fotheringhams Man of the Match awards
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Southdowns White on June 06, 2019, 04:19:29 PM
Apparently they have already dug up 47 old footballs, most of them from shots from our players that never hit the target! 
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Neil D on June 06, 2019, 04:21:08 PM
Apparently they have already dug up 47 old footballs, most of them from shots from our players that never hit the target! 
Must have been Zamora
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 05:12:47 PM
Zamora?

Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fcfulham55 on June 06, 2019, 06:03:02 PM
I love how construction workers in this country work so slow.

What progress has been made exactly, or have they just been testing the equipment for the past 2 weeks?.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: clemattlee on June 06, 2019, 06:27:13 PM
I love how construction workers in this country work so slow.

What progress has been made exactly, or have they just been testing the equipment for the past 2 weeks?.
maybe the tide has something to do with it ?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on June 06, 2019, 06:36:44 PM
Love how people just assume you stick up a building, and that is that, Christ..

There will be surveys to perform, archaeological scrapes, cairns/platforms set up to load/unload materials, and what people also forget, is that they will have to work with the tide of the the Thames.

Also, the underpinning will take its time, nothing will really move until this is done, as the stand will rely on this for it's foundations.

Can't help some fans, moaned when it wasn't going ahead, moaned when it did, now moaning that it's to slow!  :doh: 
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: H4usuallysitting on June 06, 2019, 08:18:33 PM
What sort of building site is that......not a cuppa tea in sight, no pictures of builders looking down holes ..... they'd better buck there ideas up
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 06, 2019, 08:50:42 PM
There all loafing around thinking of their pie and mash for lunch.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MikeW on June 06, 2019, 09:02:30 PM
Looking at the first pic don't you just pic the old one up and drop the new one into place? Seems pretty simple to me.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MikeW on June 06, 2019, 09:03:35 PM
PS to earlier post - this thread is going to be the source of much amusement!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: kiwian on June 07, 2019, 04:23:32 AM
My concern is the lack of orange cones. Over here council put 6 around a footpath repair about 2m square waiting for new seal to be laid.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: I Ronic on June 07, 2019, 07:55:06 AM
What sort of building site is that......not a cuppa tea in sight, no pictures of builders looking down holes ..... they'd better buck there ideas up

Or a sight of "Builders Bum" have these men no respect for the history of their Industry!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on June 07, 2019, 11:26:12 AM
Looking at the work in the river it makes you think that perhaps this preparatory work could have started before the end of the season  without interfering with the Riverside stand.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Penfold on June 07, 2019, 11:29:12 AM
What sort of building site is that......not a cuppa tea in sight, no pictures of builders looking down holes ..... they'd better buck there ideas up

Or a sight of "Builders Bum" have these men no respect for the history of their Industry!

The official term for this is 'Labourer's Cleft'
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Ols_S on June 07, 2019, 12:02:34 PM
Love how people just assume you stick up a building, and that is that, Christ..

There will be surveys to perform, archaeological scrapes, cairns/platforms set up to load/unload materials, and what people also forget, is that they will have to work with the tide of the the Thames.

Also, the underpinning will take its time, nothing will really move until this is done, as the stand will rely on this for it's foundations.

Can't help some fans, moaned when it wasn't going ahead, moaned when it did, now moaning that it's to slow!  :doh: 

Agree. Working in construction there is always a project tipping point, particularly on large projects. It can seem like not much is being achieved on site, but it is all the stuff that you cannot see. Then suddenly over the space of the last few months (probably 6 months in our case) a building suddenly and 'quickly' appears and takes shape.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Nero on June 07, 2019, 12:12:45 PM
Love how people just assume you stick up a building, and that is that, Christ..

There will be surveys to perform, archaeological scrapes, cairns/platforms set up to load/unload materials, and what people also forget, is that they will have to work with the tide of the the Thames.

Also, the underpinning will take its time, nothing will really move until this is done, as the stand will rely on this for it's foundations.

Can't help some fans, moaned when it wasn't going ahead, moaned when it did, now moaning that it's to slow!  :doh: 

Agree. Working in construction there is always a project tipping point, particularly on large projects. It can seem like not much is being achieved on site, but it is all the stuff that you cannot see. Then suddenly over the space of the last few months (probably 6 months in our case) a building suddenly and 'quickly' appears and takes shape.

Yes some serious work going on there, people in Pink High Viz they dont hand them out to just anybody.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: cookieg on June 07, 2019, 12:20:25 PM
The club should put a live stream camera on the other side of the Thames so we can watch the progress.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: I Ronic on June 07, 2019, 01:15:04 PM
The club should put a live stream camera on the other side of the Thames so we can watch the progress.

CravenCam
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Nero on June 07, 2019, 01:21:47 PM
The club should put a live stream camera on the other side of the Thames so we can watch the progress.

CravenCam

Top of the Riverside looking down,
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: LittleErn on June 07, 2019, 02:58:17 PM
Apparently they have already dug up 47 old footballs, most of them from shots from our players that never hit the target! 
Must have been Zamora
Zamora?

Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.

Nah... Tosh's misses went into Bishop's park or Stevenage road (depending on which end). more likely to  be from John Chenhall's clearances - there's a rumour that one ended up in a barge and turned up in Greenwich. Now THAT's a long kick!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: sarnian on June 07, 2019, 03:45:13 PM
Not many balls in the river next season as I expect the Riverside stand to be there all winter.

The first works will be on the river putting in piling and to establish footings for the new stand. Only when that is completed will they demolish the present stand.

I may be wrong but I would have thought knocking down the present stand first would destabilise the foundations possibly affecting the present Riverside wall.

Looking forward to moving back to the Riverside on completion.

Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: lomotd on June 07, 2019, 05:40:06 PM
Brentford have someone unofficial with a drone that goes around the stadium every week and posts great quality updates. Any own one fancy doing something similar? Just watch out for the flight path above lol!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on June 07, 2019, 05:45:26 PM
Not many balls in the river next season as I expect the Riverside stand to be there all winter.

I may be wrong but I would have thought knocking down the present stand first would destabilise the foundations possibly affecting the present Riverside wall.

Looking forward to moving back to the Riverside on completion.



Any idea where the dugouts will be?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Ronnief on June 07, 2019, 05:51:03 PM
Adjacent to the half way line!!!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: love4ffc on June 07, 2019, 06:22:53 PM
Lifted this image feom Twitter.   Looks like the Cottage is getting some work done also. 

(https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/gallery/295467_07_06_19_6_15_45.jpeg)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Vinnieffc on June 07, 2019, 08:21:07 PM
Actually, they're searching for the Michael Jackson statue.

or Mark Fotheringhams Man of the Match awards
Or my shed

Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on June 13, 2019, 09:11:48 PM
Bad weather stopped the cricket and the building works?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MikeW on June 13, 2019, 09:38:56 PM
I used to do a lot in the exhibition business.  We always reckoned once the Hoover came it was job done!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on June 13, 2019, 09:42:17 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D89_jGTX4AY82Rh?format=jpg&name=medium)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D89_jGYWwAA8gIu?format=jpg&name=medium)

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on June 13, 2019, 09:55:17 PM
Thank you FOF, great shots, very interesting.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on June 13, 2019, 10:02:39 PM
Section of H1 being removed to facilitate a disabled section, Bishops Park being segregated off to store machinery and equipment.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on June 13, 2019, 10:46:58 PM
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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Nero on June 13, 2019, 11:05:47 PM
surprised they didn't try and sell the seats as mementos
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: love4ffc on June 13, 2019, 11:15:31 PM
So, they are extending the marine break wall further in to the river? Assume they are widening the walk way and people will be able to walk along the river behind the new stand?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: ron on June 14, 2019, 12:30:34 AM
Brentford have someone unofficial with a drone that goes around the stadium every week and posts great quality updates. Any own one fancy doing something similar? Just watch out for the flight path above lol!

The Bees always have plenty of drones circling....
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Andy S on June 14, 2019, 02:47:15 AM
I love the humour but the hard work has already begun and it will be good when next season starts and we can all see the progress. Meanwhile thanks for this
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Southcoastffc on June 14, 2019, 10:46:39 AM
So, they are extending the marine break wall further in to the river? Assume they are widening the walk way and people will be able to walk along the river behind the new stand?
That's long been the plan. http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2017/december/01/fulham-fc-submits-riverside-plans
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on June 14, 2019, 11:20:30 AM
So, they are extending the marine break wall further in to the river? Assume they are widening the walk way and people will be able to walk along the river behind the new stand?

Jeez, where have you been the last 7 years ?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fcfulham55 on June 14, 2019, 06:04:11 PM
Could we agree that, once the foundations are in place.  The new stand, which is fairly small by modern standards (of teams in the top 2 divisions)  Should shoot up out of no where then? 

Still think it'll be a nice little stand when inside the ground. Definitely not big or the biggest, definitely far far from the best. But that's definitely what makes Fulham. Fulham. 

No pillars will be nice though!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: HillingdonFFC on June 14, 2019, 07:30:07 PM
Could we agree that, once the foundations are in place.  The new stand, which is fairly small by modern standards (of teams in the top 2 divisions)  Should shoot up out of no where then? 

Still think it'll be a nice little stand when inside the ground. Definitely not big or the biggest, definitely far far from the best. But that's definitely what makes Fulham. Fulham. 

No pillars will be nice though!

Sorry mate but physically the stand is not small by any stretch of the imagination. Its a seven level structure made to look even bigger due to a distintive & unique roof which appears to hover over it, it dwarves the current stand .
It loses capacity at either end due to the apartments, if allowed to continue you probably could've squeezed another 1500 or so seats in.
 You say far far from the best?? You do realise this is one of the most expensive single stands built in this country right ? For a demanding owner well used to the superb facilities available at stadiums in the USA, for 100 million quid rest assured it will be as good , not as big , as nearly anywhere in Britain
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on June 16, 2019, 06:35:32 PM
Fulham sending out leaflet to locals about stand redevelopment's effect on Bishops Park and materials arriving on site

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: One Martin Thomas on June 16, 2019, 08:43:08 PM
With the compound behind the Putney Bridge stand why not get that done after the Riverside? Even though I am a massive fan of the Riverside we are developing the only true stand we have. I can’t stand the temporary scaffolding seating in the other 3 stands!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: DevonFFC on June 16, 2019, 08:52:38 PM
With the compound behind the Putney Bridge stand why not get that done after the Riverside? Even though I am a massive fan of the Riverside we are developing the only true stand we have. I can’t stand the temporary scaffolding seating in the other 3 stands!

To have the Putney end down too would be amazing. A two tiered stand again, put a tv gantry up there too and sit the away fans up there.... just like spurs used to at WHL
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: sarnian on June 16, 2019, 09:02:47 PM
I was told ( a very reliable source ) that when MAF was granted permission to redevelop the Riverside Stand in 2012 that he was also looking at plans for the Putney End. I was told this a few months before his Riverside plans were approved.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: David I on June 16, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: General on June 17, 2019, 08:01:31 AM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!

I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fulham Joe on June 17, 2019, 01:20:01 PM
Are there pictures on this thread? I'm not seeing them, but it looks like they've been posted.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Ols_S on June 17, 2019, 03:12:33 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!

I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.

On the larger stuff probably. Tide would be fun!

All the smaller, pallet stuff, i expect would come via lorry.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: wiresandmore on June 17, 2019, 04:09:20 PM
Anyone know if the changing rooms will move to the Riverside in the new design? Or staying where they are (with the walk across the pitch to the dugouts?)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: I Ronic on June 17, 2019, 04:16:32 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!

I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.

On the larger stuff probably. Tide would be fun!

All the smaller, pallet stuff, i expect would come via lorry.

The cottage side of the river is shallow. With no discernable flow and very muddy. Can't see anything being delivered via the river.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Roberty on June 17, 2019, 04:43:23 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!

I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.

On the larger stuff probably. Tide would be fun!

All the smaller, pallet stuff, i expect would come via lorry.

The cottage side of the river is shallow. With no discernable flow and very muddy. Can't see anything being delivered via the river.

That is when the tide is out !

I presume deliveries will be timed to take advantage of the tide and there's supposed to be a pontoon in the river too
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 02:13:51 AM
Anyone know if the changing rooms will move to the Riverside in the new design? Or staying where they are (with the walk across the pitch to the dugouts?)

i’d love to know that answer too
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on June 18, 2019, 06:47:41 AM
Anyone know if the changing rooms will move to the Riverside in the new design? Or staying where they are (with the walk across the pitch to the dugouts?)

i’d love to know that answer too
the inital plans are still to have them in the cottage.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on June 18, 2019, 06:48:45 AM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!

I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.

On the larger stuff probably. Tide would be fun!

All the smaller, pallet stuff, i expect would come via lorry.

The cottage side of the river is shallow. With no discernable flow and very muddy. Can't see anything being delivered via the river.

That is when the tide is out !

I presume deliveries will be timed to take advantage of the tide and there's supposed to be a pontoon in the river too
Think there is a target of 40% of all the work to go via the river.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: mrmicawbers on June 25, 2019, 10:25:09 AM
Whoosh
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: I Ronic on June 25, 2019, 01:00:52 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!

I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.

On the larger stuff probably. Tide would be fun!

All the smaller, pallet stuff, i expect would come via lorry.

The cottage side of the river is shallow. With no discernable flow and very muddy. Can't see anything being delivered via the river.

That is when the tide is out !

I presume deliveries will be timed to take advantage of the tide and there's supposed to be a pontoon in the river too
Think there is a target of 40% of all the work to go via the river.

Nice to see a post from you again :)  Could they include teabreak bacon rolls in that %?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on June 25, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Yes, MJG - far too interesting a poster to stay away, good to hear from you.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Sting of the North on June 25, 2019, 01:35:03 PM
Yes, MJG - far too interesting a poster to stay away, good to hear from you.

 :plus one:
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Jimpav on June 25, 2019, 01:58:25 PM
Yes, MJG - far too interesting a poster to stay away, good to hear from you.

 :plus one:

Another vote from me.

Posters like you are vital for the board.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: hovewhite on June 26, 2019, 07:21:16 PM
MJG ????
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 27, 2019, 05:13:06 AM
Apparently they have already dug up 47 old footballs, most of them from shots from our players that never hit the target!

I reckon AK-47 contributed most of them, his shoots have both the distance and accuracy required to achieve such a feat.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 05:28:54 AM
Old packet of Woodbines belonging to Tosh still had 3 in it..😯
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: snarks on June 27, 2019, 02:55:51 PM
Old packet of Woodbines belonging to Tosh still had 3 in it..😯

Can't have been Tosh's then, probably George Best trying to juggle them when p****d
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on June 28, 2019, 05:06:14 PM
Bit going in Bishops Park, couldnt get any views from either end. Parking restrictions going in next week as guessing demolition proper starting?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-JqxLlXsAEvpJz?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-JqzmCWkAcrgkj?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-Jq3pJXkAEEDyI?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-Jq5GfXkAIlqpK?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: ffcthereligion on July 07, 2019, 03:58:00 PM
Any updates here?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on July 07, 2019, 05:10:24 PM
Yes. It is going ahead!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Peabody on July 08, 2019, 11:26:46 AM
Zamora?

Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.


Got to be from Tosh, boy, what a shot he had on him. Share your hope Fernie.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on July 08, 2019, 08:41:00 PM
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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on July 08, 2019, 08:45:42 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-osWmuX4AEy6Xt?format=jpg&name=small)

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Twig on July 08, 2019, 09:10:56 PM
Yes, MJG - far too interesting a poster to stay away, good to hear from you.

 :plus one:

Another vote from me.

Posters like you are vital for the board.

Sorry, bit belated but great to see you posting MJG.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on July 08, 2019, 09:22:28 PM
So, it is really happening,  Please keep the interesting pictures coming.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on July 08, 2019, 09:26:57 PM
Great pics, thank you.

The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club.  How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Burt on July 08, 2019, 09:58:50 PM
Great pics, thank you.

The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club.  How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.

Yes - took me back to the dark days in the 80s!!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: One Martin Thomas on July 08, 2019, 10:16:41 PM
Great pics, thank you.

The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club.  How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.

Yes - took me back to the dark days in the 80s!!

Didn’t they change the Riverside seats with new ones purchased from Derby’s old Baseball Ground ? Sure they did ....
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Ged on July 08, 2019, 10:50:12 PM
Great pics, thank you.

The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club.  How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.

Yes - took me back to the dark days in the 80s!!

Didn’t they change the Riverside seats with new ones purchased from Derby’s old Baseball Ground ? Sure they did ....
If true it wouldn't have been the riverside stand but the Putney End as it was about the same time we got promoted  that the baseball ground was demolished
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: _Putney_ on July 09, 2019, 08:58:04 AM
Great pics, thank you.

The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club.  How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.

Wow I didn't know they got as far as actually removing seats!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Burt on July 09, 2019, 09:46:23 AM
Great pics, thank you.

The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club.  How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.

Yes - took me back to the dark days in the 80s!!

Didn’t they change the Riverside seats with new ones purchased from Derby’s old Baseball Ground ? Sure they did ....
If true it wouldn't have been the riverside stand but the Putney End as it was about the same time we got promoted  that the baseball ground was demolished

That's the first time I have heard that! I wonder if there's any truth in it?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: One Martin Thomas on July 09, 2019, 05:54:35 PM
I am fairly positive it did happen ! I may need to check my old programmes...
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Carborundum on July 09, 2019, 06:18:15 PM
Thanks for the photos.

Gets me wondering how much colder and windier it will be once the existing stand comes down.  Cheery thought for a July evening I know.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: brightster on July 09, 2019, 06:39:16 PM
Great pics, thank you.

The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club.  How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.

Yes - took me back to the dark days in the 80s!!

Didn’t they change the Riverside seats with new ones purchased from Derby’s old Baseball Ground ? Sure they did ....
If true it wouldn't have been the riverside stand but the Putney End as it was about the same time we got promoted  that the baseball ground was demolished

That's the first time I have heard that! I wonder if there's any truth in it?

Not sure the old baseball ground had that style of seats when it closed, but could be wrong.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on July 09, 2019, 06:45:56 PM
Great pics, thank you.

The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club.  How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.

Wow I didn't know they got as far as actually removing seats!

Blocks of seats were removed over a period of a few weeks, presumably to reduce overheads as attendances were so low.  I recall seeing a few photos of what I imagine was the early 80s?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bog on July 09, 2019, 07:51:27 PM
Zamora?

Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.

+1 100%
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: _Putney_ on July 09, 2019, 09:52:32 PM
Great pics, thank you.

The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club.  How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.

Wow I didn't know they got as far as actually removing seats!

Blocks of seats were removed over a period of a few weeks, presumably to reduce overheads as attendances were so low.  I recall seeing a few photos of what I imagine was the early 80s?

I wonder how much it cost to pay the people to remove the seats XD
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Andy S on July 09, 2019, 11:31:50 PM
Wooden seats were common in a lot of football grounds prior to the Bradford fire. The JH stand here at Fulham was closed until a sprinkler system was fitted. Supporters were caged in grounds following the Sheff Weds disaster. In fact football supporters were treated incredibly badly during the 1980’s
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fulham Joe on July 10, 2019, 12:53:05 PM
We've seen worse days.


 (https://i.imgur.com/zYZcJlL.jpg)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Dodger53 on July 10, 2019, 01:49:17 PM
A couple of comments - They have probably sold the seats to another club, many years ago I remember Mansfield Town buying the whole Hurst Park stand (Horse racing near Hampton Court) and does this all mean the end of the puddle in the gate at Bishops Park?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bobby01 on July 10, 2019, 03:27:59 PM
We've seen worse days.


 (https://i.imgur.com/zYZcJlL.jpg)




Was this when we announced crowd changes to the team.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: ealex40 on July 10, 2019, 04:46:56 PM
A couple of comments - They have probably sold the seats to another club, many years ago I remember Mansfield Town buying the whole Hurst Park stand (Horse racing near Hampton Court) and does this all mean the end of the puddle in the gate at Bishops Park?
Hi Ian,
Valerie and I sat in that stand when we were 0-2 down at halftime and finally won 3-2, back in 1969-70, just before leaving England for the USA.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on July 10, 2019, 06:13:05 PM
We've seen worse days.


 (https://i.imgur.com/zYZcJlL.jpg)

Don't say that!
The "fine figure" in the red & blue top with hand carefully placed on hip is ME!!
Minus (for some reason) the proverbial King Edward cigar smoked during matches to calm my nerves
How I miss the arguments with the occasional away fans who used to dare to stand with us in the Putney End
Now of course I am an old git so far more sensible (well not really)
Great days,bless the 3,500!!
COYW!!


Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 10, 2019, 06:18:30 PM
Designs been amended, health club instead of apartments at the Putney end now
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Nightwind15 on July 11, 2019, 12:37:05 PM
I have it, on good authority, there is suspected Roman gold buried along the river. 
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: rogerpnowinFlorida on July 11, 2019, 12:40:43 PM
I loved those weeds at the Putney End.
Gave us a real 'home town' club
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 11, 2019, 12:47:16 PM
Those weeds were Cardiff Supporters
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on July 13, 2019, 11:42:41 AM
Nice shot of Craven Cottage and can see how much of the park is being taken up with the work compound.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_SnkewXYAAG-of?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on July 14, 2019, 02:16:49 PM
It would be nice to have a glimpse of the works programme, I wonder when the demolition of the stand is due to take place, sometime during the season I imagine.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Andy S on July 14, 2019, 02:34:42 PM
It is after all the seats have been removed along with any other disposable items and all electrical supplies including  essential electrical supplies to floodlights etc have been cut off or diverted. Water supplies etc. It all takes time you know
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on July 14, 2019, 03:04:48 PM
It would be nice to have a glimpse of the works programme, I wonder when the demolition of the stand is due to take place, sometime during the season I imagine.
Main demolition is due to start in late August or start of September.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on July 22, 2019, 03:54:01 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAFYuPlXkAAU_zO?format=jpg&name=small)

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on July 22, 2019, 06:19:42 PM
It would be nice to have a glimpse of the works programme, I wonder when the demolition of the stand is due to take place, sometime during the season I imagine.
Main demolition is due to start in late August or start of September.
It is going to be interesting to see the work progress match by match, lose a match and at least we will be able to say at  least the stand is coming on nicely.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on July 22, 2019, 06:28:56 PM
I flew over the new Brentford stadium a couple of hours ago and it looks amazing, look forward to one day flying over a completed Craven Cottage and having the same feeling of awe.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: _Putney_ on July 22, 2019, 08:04:44 PM
exciting to see that barge move in!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2019, 08:09:19 PM
More like it Barged it’s way in.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: mrmicawbers on July 23, 2019, 07:54:18 AM
I flew over the new Brentford stadium a couple of hours ago and it looks amazing, look forward to one day flying over a completed Craven Cottage and having the same feeling of awe.
I drove past Brentford New ground recently and wasn't that impressed.Looks out of proportion at one end.Still will much improvement on their current hovel.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: PutneyPhil on July 23, 2019, 08:02:08 AM
What sort of building site is that......not a cuppa tea in sight, no pictures of builders looking down holes ..... they'd better buck there ideas up

Or a sight of "Builders Bum" have these men no respect for the history of their Industry!

The official term for this is 'Labourer's Cleft'

“Dagenham cleavage”
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: jarv on July 23, 2019, 12:01:56 PM
I have not read everything so apologies if already stated......what is the capacity with the stand gone?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on July 23, 2019, 12:20:41 PM
I flew over the new Brentford stadium a couple of hours ago and it looks amazing, look forward to one day flying over a completed Craven Cottage and having the same feeling of awe.
I drove past Brentford New ground recently and wasn't that impressed.Looks out of proportion at one end.Still will much improvement on their current hovel.

Is out of proportion a problem for you ? If it is may I then suggest you steer well clear of Craven Cottage in two years time.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bobby01 on July 23, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
Lovely view from the bypass, nice and high looking down, I thought it looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: mrmicawbers on July 23, 2019, 01:04:16 PM
I flew over the new Brentford stadium a couple of hours ago and it looks amazing, look forward to one day flying over a completed Craven Cottage and having the same feeling of awe.
I drove past Brentford New ground recently and wasn't that impressed.Looks out of proportion at one end.Still will much improvement on their current hovel.

Is out of proportion a problem for you ? If it is may I then suggest you steer well clear of Craven Cottage in two years time.
Just my opinion but I think it will look great a mixture of old and new.I do think we will need to sort out both Hammersmith and Putney ends once the Riverside is done.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Dr Quinzel on July 23, 2019, 01:31:44 PM
Brentford's new ground looks like the back of a B&Q when you go past on the train. Across between the Madejski and Loftus Road.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Bill2 on July 23, 2019, 03:36:30 PM
Be good to get a view of what is happening at the ground on Saturday.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Andy S on July 23, 2019, 06:16:32 PM
Do they work on Saturdays?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: ron on July 25, 2019, 08:58:56 PM
Do they work on Saturdays?


What, at time and a half?....Nah, doubt it......
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: gang on July 26, 2019, 04:18:09 PM
Do they work on Saturdays?


What, at time and a half?....Nah, doubt it....


Or do you mean the players?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Dr Quinzel on July 26, 2019, 04:39:06 PM
Club confirmed a time-lapse camera to be set up - via FST
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on July 26, 2019, 04:43:18 PM
Club confirmed a time-lapse camera to be set up - via FST

And also confirmed that demolition of existing stand to take place in September
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on July 26, 2019, 04:49:01 PM
Club confirmed a time-lapse camera to be set up - via FST

We knew this anyway, as a representative of Friends of Fulham had been in contact with the Club, asking if there'd be one implemented, and they said yes, after we ran a successful Twitter campaign.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Andy S on July 27, 2019, 12:16:29 AM
The demolition will start in September I doubt that it will be a 5 min job
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on July 27, 2019, 02:47:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAfFaTuW4AIInF-?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fulhamben on July 27, 2019, 02:48:46 PM
Hmm didnt cross my mind about the bar going, what are they doing for the hammy end
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 27, 2019, 02:49:39 PM
The demolition will start in September I doubt that it will be a 5 min job

I would have thought they would have completed the Construction by now.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 27, 2019, 02:50:46 PM
Hmm didnt cross my mind about the bar going, what are they doing for the hammy end

There is a Yard of Ale contest going on at this very moment.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on July 27, 2019, 03:07:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAfLjOtWwAIwOx-?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on July 28, 2019, 09:50:22 AM
Thanks for the pic FoF.  My wife asked what's happening with the ground developments so now I can show her with me in the picture too.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: millsy on July 28, 2019, 10:49:36 AM
Can someone explain the reference to the “Hammersmith Mound” in the latest FST notes. Is this the patch in front of the George Cohen statue?

I tried to find out on Saturday whether the back gate which exits onto the towpath towards Hammersmith, will remain in use throughout the demolition but no-one seemed to know.

Do the FST notes suggest that this exit will stay in place?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Andy S on July 28, 2019, 11:12:22 AM
So where is the corporate box now?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on July 28, 2019, 11:56:03 AM
Seeing her in this state does feel like a fall from grace for a stand that us Riversders love (despite our poor press).
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: WhiteJC on August 07, 2019, 12:51:26 PM
Riverside Stand Work Update
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Fulham Football Club looks forward to welcoming supporters back to Craven Cottage this season and ahead of our SkyBet Championship clash with Blackburn this Saturday, we can provide an update on the Riverside Stand works taking place.

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Following the installation of the constructor’s compound in Bishops Park at the end of June there have been changes that you will notice. The compound itself is hoarded off at a section of Bishops Park and prior to its installation ground protection was laid, along with protection of trees in the vicinity. This compound, starting adjacent to the Putney End wall, occupies an area of 5500 m2 within Fielders Meadow.
 
The Riverside Stand has already undertaken a soft strip of any non-structural elements. This is an essential part of the preparation that is required prior to demolition. As a consequence, you will notice seating has been removed from the stand along with the fixtures and furnishing in the lounges.
 
In addition, a temporary gantry has been built pitchside, adjacent to the current shell that remains from the stand. This gantry will be used for media purposes and by the analysis teams of the home and away sides. In order to separate the works taking place inside the stadium bowl, hoarding has been installed and painted at both the Hammersmith & Putney End.

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Recent work has included the removal of the hospitality boxes in the corner of the Putney End which have been taken down in the past week.
 
Additionally, a new disabled deck has been installed in the Putney end along with a temporary first aid room, which is located behind the stand.
 
Those observing the works from the Putney bank will notice a jacked-up barge in place on the river. This barge is adorned with a crane and has been thoroughly tested, ready to commence piling.  On Tuesday, the piling rig, the first of its kind in the country, arrived by barge. A team will test and commission the 70 tonne machine. It was transferred onto the jacked-up platform on Wednesday with piling (some piles up to 50m deep) set to commence imminently.
 
Saturday’s fixture v Blackburn Rovers will also see the players from both sides lining up in front of the Johnny Haynes stand before the match.
 
We will be providing regular updates on the works during the season however, during this time, the overall capacity at Craven Cottage is reduced to three stands being in operation and away areas now limited to Blocks P5 & P6 within the Putney End.
 
Supporters are reminded that whilst three sides of the ground will be in operation during the Riverside Stand works, the Putney End will have dedicated blocks for home and away supporters. There is no longer a mixed/neutral section within the Putney End seating blocks.

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Whilst the Putney End concourse area will be mixed, blocks P1, P2, P3 & P4 are designated home seating areas only. P5 & P6 is the designated away area.
 
There will be an appropriate security presence in the Putney End for each game to manage Home and Away Fans sharing facilities in the concourse area. This will be based upon consultation between the club, police and relevant local authorities.
 
Following this consultation, the Club will be enforcing sale restrictions. This also means that Season Ticket Holders and Members purchasing tickets for others will still be possible, however, the purchaser is responsible for these tickets and must ensure that seats occupied in the home seating areas are by Fulham supporters.
 
There should not be any away supporters in any of the home seating areas inside the ground. Away supporters identified in home areas will be ejected.



https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/august/07/riverside-stand-update
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Neil D on August 07, 2019, 02:26:57 PM
Can't help feeling the wrong stand is being demolished.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on August 07, 2019, 03:01:56 PM
Seeing her in this state does feel like a fall from grace for a stand that us Riversders love (despite our poor press).

Yes, the end of an era, difficult  😢
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: 70sPimlico on August 07, 2019, 03:32:21 PM
Can't help feeling the wrong stand is being demolished.

For gods sake man. Let them know before its too late
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Vinnieffc on August 07, 2019, 03:59:45 PM
Can't help feeling the wrong stand is being demolished.

For gods sake man. Let them know before its too late
Aaaggghhhhh they knocked down the wrong listed building

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: The Enclosurite on August 07, 2019, 10:28:56 PM
Does anybody know what the actual capacity figure is for this season?  I know it's around 19000 but what is the exact figure?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on August 07, 2019, 11:07:35 PM
Does anybody know what the actual capacity figure is for this season?  I know it's around 19000 but what is the exact figure?
there is no exact figure as such because it will change due to various works going on, but 19k is standard figure to quote.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: The Enclosurite on August 07, 2019, 11:40:43 PM
Does anybody know what the actual capacity figure is for this season?  I know it's around 19000 but what is the exact figure?
there is no exact figure as such because it will change due to various works going on, but 19k is standard figure to quote.

Ah right, that makes sense. Thanks MJG.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: DanVerSar on August 08, 2019, 07:29:39 AM
I walked past the ground yesterday and very busy with builders etc. Most of the activity was behind the Putney end in Bishop’s park behind the fenced off areas. Quite a lot of the park in this enclosure was being dug up, moved etc. Does anyone know why or what is going in this area?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Dr Quinzel on August 08, 2019, 11:08:21 AM
Club confirmed a time-lapse camera to be set up - via FST

We knew this anyway, as a representative of Friends of Fulham had been in contact with the Club, asking if there'd be one implemented, and they said yes, after we ran a successful Twitter campaign.

Seems the time-lapse camera they are fitting is being fitted on a time-lapse itself  :005:
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on August 14, 2019, 11:23:43 AM
https://twitter.com/dm_bim/status/1161539625317535744  simulation of the building work over next 9 months

Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on August 14, 2019, 01:38:48 PM
https://twitter.com/dm_bim/status/1161539625317535744  simulation of the building work over next 9 months



Leaves me thinking that there is one hell of a lot of work to do in year 2 to get the stand anywhere near ready, the internal fit out will take ages,
If I was a betting man I would say that the seats may be installed in time for the first game of the season but it will be months later before the stand is completed internally.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: KingofCheese on August 14, 2019, 01:55:56 PM
I noticed that in his interview Scott was saying that the atmosphere would be reduced at the ground without the Riverside stand. I presume that he meant sound from the other parts of the ground blowing out over the Thames rather than a loss of noise from there as in my experience dropping a bag of pins would be heard throughout the old stand at any game.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on August 14, 2019, 02:06:19 PM
https://twitter.com/dm_bim/status/1161539625317535744  simulation of the building work over next 9 months



Leaves me thinking that there is one hell of a lot of work to do in year 2 to get the stand anywhere near ready, the internal fit out will take ages,
If I was a betting man I would say that the seats may be installed in time for the first game of the season but it will be months later before the stand is completed internally.
I've always thought it to be very ambitious to do it all within two seasons whole staying at the ground.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Carborundum on August 14, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station.  Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too.  Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on August 14, 2019, 02:46:12 PM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station.  Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too.  Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.

The frame will go up in no time at all that's the relative easy part, it's the fitting out and the wiring that will take time, when I watched that time lapse video I was expecting to see the frame underway before the end of the video,
If anybody knows when the frame is scheduled to be completed by I would be really interested to know.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: G_Gribby on August 14, 2019, 03:04:53 PM
https://twitter.com/dm_bim/status/1161539625317535744  simulation of the building work over next 9 months



Leaves me thinking that there is one hell of a lot of work to do in year 2 to get the stand anywhere near ready, the internal fit out will take ages,
If I was a betting man I would say that the seats may be installed in time for the first game of the season but it will be months later before the stand is completed internally.

After witnessing a garage and hotel building from my office, my comments are as follows. The first phase takes more time since the basic work is normally very specific. The remaining phases deal with modular parts that are mounted in place. I believe and hope that everything will be ready according to plan.

They should add some nice music to the movie to make everyone happy.

 :003:
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Skatzoffc on August 14, 2019, 04:20:53 PM
I noticed that in his interview Scott was saying that the atmosphere would be reduced at the ground without the Riverside stand. I presume that he meant sound from the other parts of the ground blowing out over the Thames rather than a loss of noise from there as in my experience dropping a bag of pins would be heard throughout the old stand at any game.

Lol.
I thought the three builders in the stand made more noise during the Blackburn game than the original Riverside crowd.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: KingofCheese on August 14, 2019, 04:48:25 PM
I noticed that in his interview Scott was saying that the atmosphere would be reduced at the ground without the Riverside stand. I presume that he meant sound from the other parts of the ground blowing out over the Thames rather than a loss of noise from there as in my experience dropping a bag of pins would be heard throughout the old stand at any game.

Lol.
I thought the three builders in the stand made more noise during the Blackburn game than the original Riverside crowd.

It must have been a real shock to the Blackburn fans to hear anything coming from that area!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on August 28, 2019, 10:24:40 PM
Riverside Works Update

Wednesday 28 August 2019 16:07

Piling work into the river started last week, with the first pile - measuring a depth of 32m below the riverbed - completed last Monday.

Once the core was hollowed out, steel cages were inserted and concrete was poured in. Four piles have been completed with the fifth pile due to be finished this week. Piling work will continue thereafter, with around 50 piles in total being inserted into the river.

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Above: The first of 50 piles.

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(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/misc/river_works_pic_3.jpg)

Above: Earlier this month, the piling rig (the first of its kind in the country) arrived by barge. A team then arrived to test and commission the 70 tonne machine, before it was transferred onto the jacked up platform prior to the commencement of the piling.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fulhamben on August 30, 2019, 12:59:16 AM
That looks like every piling rig that ice ever seen, what's so special about it, to make it the first of it's kind?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Holders on August 30, 2019, 09:12:25 AM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station.  Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too.  Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.

What's happening to the Eurostar platforms at Waterloo? Would be interested to know. I used to commute into Waterloo until about 18 years ago and haven't been there since Eurostar moved to ST Pancras.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: toshes mate on August 30, 2019, 09:44:11 AM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station.  Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too.  Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.

What's happening to the Eurostar platforms at Waterloo? Would be interested to know. I used to commute into Waterloo until about 18 years ago and haven't been there since Eurostar moved to ST Pancras.
The five platforms (20-24) should have been returned to normal use by last May, and there was an intention to turn the former Eurostar Terminal Building into a shopping mall.  Running a reliable train service to schedule may follow at some indefinite time in the future, if you can still afford to use it ...
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Ols_S on August 30, 2019, 09:54:14 AM
That looks like every piling rig that ice ever seen, what's so special about it, to make it the first of it's kind?

I understood it to be a specialised pile design due to the location and the need to drive them into the river. I should think that it is a fairly standard piling rig with a specialised bit?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Ols_S on August 30, 2019, 10:02:21 AM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station.  Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too.  Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.

The frame will go up in no time at all that's the relative easy part, it's the fitting out and the wiring that will take time, when I watched that time lapse video I was expecting to see the frame underway before the end of the video,
If anybody knows when the frame is scheduled to be completed by I would be really interested to know.

You also have the core walls going up from December. Looks like there are 3 or 4 protected cores as you would expect. The frame for the remaining takes its strength from that.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MikeW on August 30, 2019, 03:57:21 PM
All looks very serious ... and exciting.  Will be a cracking spectacle when complete.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: b+w geezer on August 30, 2019, 06:28:26 PM
Good to see this.
*IF* they really do start next July with all those exceptional river- and groundworks completed, then you'd have thought that a further 12 months ought to suffice for erecting the structure and fitting out those aspects that are pitch-facing and in other ways essential for the convening of a football crowd. After all, a lot of that stuff -- like seats, turnstiles, toilets -- will not be requiring time-consuming craftsmanship.

Maybe two years will suffice for everything else too, but there is scope for slippage in the sense that features for non-matchdays -- which involve quite a lot of the project -- could be fitted out past the seasonal start if need be.

Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fulhamross on September 05, 2019, 11:58:05 AM
any updates?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: lomotd on September 05, 2019, 02:37:50 PM
any updates?

I've not got an update but hoping that there should be a good lot of progress over the international week. The construction programme would have planned around football fixtures so when its guaranteed that there's not football at the cottage for a while, its a good opportunity to do some major works.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Carborundum on September 05, 2019, 03:14:13 PM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station.  Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too.  Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.

What's happening to the Eurostar platforms at Waterloo? Would be interested to know. I used to commute into Waterloo until about 18 years ago and haven't been there since Eurostar moved to ST Pancras.
The five platforms (20-24) should have been returned to normal use by last May, and there was an intention to turn the former Eurostar Terminal Building into a shopping mall.  Running a reliable train service to schedule may follow at some indefinite time in the future, if you can still afford to use it ...
Yes indeed. Platforms 20-24 have achieved the same [insert adjective or expletive of choice] level of service as 1 - 19.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: _Putney_ on September 12, 2019, 10:23:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/sFQiZBol.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OkMTo0Kl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Num7QChl.jpg)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on September 12, 2019, 11:10:23 AM
Would’ve expected to see a bit more of the Stand down by now. Maybe, after Saturday when they have a clear fortnight  before the ground is required again and more progress will be seen as per the the master schedule.
Don’t worry about the o/t rates, get them in Sunday and crack on.
Come on you Buckingham boys.
👍 👍
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bog on September 12, 2019, 02:01:20 PM
Would’ve expected to see a bit more of the Stand down by now. Maybe, after Saturday when they have a clear fortnight  before the ground is required again and more progress will be seen as per the the master schedule.
Don’t worry about the o/t rates, get them in Sunday and crack on.
Come on you Buckingham boys.
👍 👍

Fernhurst, did you chant that when Vic was manager?  :022:

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on September 12, 2019, 03:32:08 PM
No Captain, never forgave him for selling Gentleman Jim Langley !!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bog on September 12, 2019, 09:40:55 PM
No Captain, never forgave him for selling Gentleman Jim Langley !!

Or Rodney Marsh!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Peabody on September 12, 2019, 11:15:25 PM
Or sacking Arthur Stevens
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bog on September 13, 2019, 09:12:43 AM
Or sacking Arthur Stevens

I had forgotten that Peabody. An iconic name for the club from playing to coaching and that pillock sacks him. Mind you Beddy left on a sour note. Why do these things happen?  :031: :031: :031: :031:

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on September 13, 2019, 09:41:40 AM
I was only young but remember feeling quite pleased when that bloke was appointed due to his Ajax, Barcelona background.
Came in and scythed our club apart.
Glad to see the back of him. 
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: JimOG on September 13, 2019, 10:35:07 AM
But enough about Ranieri 😜
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 13, 2019, 10:55:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/sFQiZBol.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OkMTo0Kl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Num7QChl.jpg)

Have they struck oil yet ?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on September 13, 2019, 06:06:29 PM
I wonder how the snails are doing?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fcfulham55 on September 29, 2019, 09:38:31 PM
Nothing much to add here.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on September 29, 2019, 10:49:38 PM
I waS wondering? ........ piling, piling, piling I suppose. Well at least the weather should have kept the project on track.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: The Rational Fan on September 30, 2019, 03:41:12 AM
Would’ve expected to see a bit more of the Stand down by now. Maybe, after Saturday when they have a clear fortnight  before the ground is required again and more progress will be seen as per the the master schedule.
Don’t worry about the o/t rates, get them in Sunday and crack on.
Come on you Buckingham boys.
👍 👍

There must be a timeline for the project, it maybe available to us. If it is, when will the stand be down?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Mince n Tatties on September 30, 2019, 06:17:30 AM
 076.got
(https://i.imgur.com/sFQiZBol.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OkMTo0Kl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Num7QChl.jpg)

Have they struck oil yet ?

Sorry No.
Items found So far and waiting to be claimed.

1 set of Dentures.
Return Train Ticket to Orpington,dated 25th March 1959
Packet of Tosh Chamberlain's Woodbines(Unopened)
Blue Trench Coat(with shopping list in pocket)
1/2lb of cheese
Jar of Blackcurrant Jam
Packet of Rich tea
Packet of Firelighters
1/4 lb of Dolly Mixtures.

1 Gold Watch engraved(To Rupert Sidebottom) champion roadsweeper of Putney 1937.
A false leg with a size 14 hobnail boot intact.
A diary belonging to Albert Munchings(5th of May 1937 highlighted in red ink(The day I murdered my cheating wife).
All of these items can be collected from the groundsman.

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on September 30, 2019, 07:03:57 AM
Would’ve expected to see a bit more of the Stand down by now. Maybe, after Saturday when they have a clear fortnight  before the ground is required again and more progress will be seen as per the the master schedule.
Don’t worry about the o/t rates, get them in Sunday and crack on.
Come on you Buckingham boys.
👍 👍

There must be a timeline for the project, it maybe available to us. If it is, when will the stand be down?
Main “deconstruction” of the existing stand is now scheduled for October/November
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on September 30, 2019, 10:37:26 AM
Or sacking Arthur Stevens

I had forgotten that Peabody. An iconic name for the club from playing to coaching and that pillock sacks him. Mind you Beddy left on a sour note. Why do these things happen?  :031: :031: :031: :031:

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I think it was letting Mullerry go to Spurs without consutation that resulted in Beddy leaving. What a record Beddy had as player and manager for us, I challenge any one to match it.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Jim© on September 30, 2019, 02:05:00 PM

A false leg with a size 14 hobnail boot intact.
A diary belonging to Albert Munchings(5th of May 1937 highlighted in red ink(The day I murdered my cheating wife).
All of these items can be collected from the groundsman.


After we played a (southern?) semi v Wycombe in the Autoglass at home, I remember the programme the following game was asking if anyone had found a prosthetic leg that was lost whilst celebrating the Wycombe win in the away end. I always thought it was a wind up, but there seems to be fossilised evidence to the contrary!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Mince n Tatties on September 30, 2019, 02:57:48 PM

A false leg with a size 14 hobnail boot intact.
A diary belonging to Albert Munchings(5th of May 1937 highlighted in red ink(The day I murdered my cheating wife).
All of these items can be collected from the groundsman.


After we played a (southern?) semi v Wycombe in the Autoglass at home, I remember the programme the following game was asking if anyone had found a prosthetic leg that was lost whilst celebrating the Wycombe win in the away end. I always thought it was a wind up, but there seems to be fossilised evidence to the contrary!

lol.😁
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 30, 2019, 05:24:40 PM
076.got
(https://i.imgur.com/sFQiZBol.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OkMTo0Kl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Num7QChl.jpg)

Have they struck oil yet ?

Sorry No.
Items found So far and waiting to be claimed.

1 set of Dentures.
Return Train Ticket to Orpington,dated 25th March 1959
Packet of Tosh Chamberlain's Woodbines(Unopened)
Blue Trench Coat(with shopping list in pocket)
1/2lb of cheese
Jar of Blackcurrant Jam
Packet of Rich tea
Packet of Firelighters
1/4 lb of Dolly Mixtures.

1 Gold Watch engraved(To Rupert Sidebottom) champion roadsweeper of Putney 1937.
A false leg with a size 14 hobnail boot intact.
A diary belonging to Albert Munchings(5th of May 1937 highlighted in red ink(The day I murdered my cheating wife).
All of these items can be collected from the groundsman.

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You forgot to mention a Flamethrower, a full size orthopaedic Skeleton, a Ventriloquist Dummy, a Water Cannon, The Dead Sea Scrolls, the remains of  A Barrow in Furness FC Football Banner.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on October 06, 2019, 03:28:20 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGHF-Y9WkAAocvX.jpg)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on October 06, 2019, 03:51:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGHI8-BXUAAjbZO?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: HillingdonFFC on October 06, 2019, 04:07:02 PM
I know its a very complex build but the stand is taking ages to come down. Was there a couple of weeks ago & hardly anything done since then . Didn't seem too much going on there when I went although it was a friday so it was probably POETS day for the builders
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bobby01 on October 06, 2019, 04:17:27 PM
When you look at the picture from the hammy end, it shows how basic stands are really
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on October 06, 2019, 04:22:40 PM
When you look at the picture from the hammy end, it shows how basic stands are really

Funny, that struck me looking at that picture. Admittedly, we Riversiders don't move around a great deal.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on October 06, 2019, 04:39:35 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications,  it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on October 06, 2019, 05:30:41 PM
Thank you for the update, interesting.
Think we are not seeing rapid progress because all efforts are going into completing the 31 (?) piles being driven into the Thames to take the weight of the structure.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on October 06, 2019, 05:38:54 PM
The thought of 31 piles is putting me off my tea!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on October 06, 2019, 05:48:03 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications,  it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
its telling that there isn't and I'm led to believe that comes from Khan in his belief that the real money is made within and on the other side of the stand and he wanted seats instead of boxes facing the pitch.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on October 06, 2019, 06:28:09 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications,  it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
its telling that there isn't and I'm led to believe that comes from Khan in his belief that the real money is made within and on the other side of the stand and he wanted seats instead of boxes facing the pitch.
He must think the toffs would rather sit and view the river than watch football.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: FFCAli on October 06, 2019, 06:55:06 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications,  it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
its telling that there isn't and I'm led to believe that comes from Khan in his belief that the real money is made within and on the other side of the stand and he wanted seats instead of boxes facing the pitch.
He must think the toffs would rather sit and view the river than watch football.

He could well be right.  At Wimbledon and Queen's the hosts are surprised if a guest expresses a desire to watch the tennis.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on October 06, 2019, 07:34:53 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications,  it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
its telling that there isn't and I'm led to believe that comes from Khan in his belief that the real money is made within and on the other side of the stand and he wanted seats instead of boxes facing the pitch.
He must think the toffs would rather sit and view the river than watch football.
but also with a football ground only in use maybe 25 times a year the other 340 days bring in extra on that side.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Statto on October 06, 2019, 07:58:08 PM
Are boxes even that lucrative anyway? The average box must take up the space of about 50 seats.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: ron on October 06, 2019, 08:25:05 PM
Rupert and Tarquin think that muddied oafs are rather vulgar. How much better to watch the privileged sculling the afternoons away on the tide....
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: LBNo11 on October 06, 2019, 09:46:13 PM
Some very interesting photos showing the extent of the preparation / work in progress. I was going to collect some such photos for historical posterity, but this saves me doing so.

If anyone is interested I have a collection of photographs of the old Thamesbank terrace being prepared and the new (now old) Riverside stand being erected which I can post on here (If I remember how to!) or if the Mods would prefer, on another new thread...
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: b+w geezer on October 07, 2019, 11:29:37 AM
When you look at the picture from the hammy end, it shows how basic stands are really

Sure does. And for that reason, I'd imagine July 2021 would be feasible for having the new seating used on matchdays, even if not all the lounges etc. within were fully-fiitted out for the first few weeks.

Even fewer of the facilities facing the river would be essential for Matchday 1.

Ideally everything is completely finished in time, but there is a lot that could overrun without preventing football in the meantime.

 
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Statto on October 07, 2019, 01:44:26 PM
Some very interesting photos showing the extent of the preparation / work in progress. I was going to collect some such photos for historical posterity, but this saves me doing so.

If anyone is interested I have a collection of photographs of the old Thamesbank terrace being prepared and the new (now old) Riverside stand being erected which I can post on here (If I remember how to!) or if the Mods would prefer, on another new thread...

Yes would be interested to see that
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SG on October 07, 2019, 04:00:47 PM
Some very interesting photos showing the extent of the preparation / work in progress. I was going to collect some such photos for historical posterity, but this saves me doing so.

If anyone is interested I have a collection of photographs of the old Thamesbank terrace being prepared and the new (now old) Riverside stand being erected which I can post on here (If I remember how to!) or if the Mods would prefer, on another new thread...

Yes would be interested to see that

Agreed would be good to see. Was at the opening game against Benfica,(??) still have the ticket somewhere
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Andy S on October 08, 2019, 01:08:01 AM
In Saturdays programme Shad khan says the stand is expected to be completely demolished by the end of the year
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: rogerpnowinFlorida on October 08, 2019, 03:47:39 AM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications,  it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
its telling that there isn't and I'm led to believe that comes from Khan in his belief that the real money is made within and on the other side of the stand and he wanted seats instead of boxes facing the pitch.
He must think the toffs would rather sit and view the river than watch football.

He could well be right.  At Wimbledon and Queen's the hosts are surprised if a guest expresses a desire to watch the tennis.

You're right.
in mid 1980's I worked with as company who specialized in corporate hospitality
We had a hospitality tent or facilities at all of the major sports events
It was amazing how many corporate guests stayed in the 'facility' sipping champagne and
showing no interest in what was going on.
I well remember when Charlie Passarell was playing Pancho Gonzalez in what was then the longest
match ever played and our clients guests guzzled the shampoo and ate the food with no interest in the game.
Our clients paid a fortune to be there and the business that was done underneath the TV sets in the tents
was amazing.
That was then .....................
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on October 08, 2019, 12:28:35 PM
Agreed would be good to see. Was at the opening game against Benfica,(??) still have the ticket somewhere

I was also privileged attend both first and last games in The Riverside.

Would love to see the construction pics from the late 60’s.
If spared my ambition is to be at opening of The Khan Family Stand.
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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: deadcowboys on October 08, 2019, 12:49:26 PM
Agreed would be good to see. Was at the opening game against Benfica,(??) still have the ticket somewhere

I was also privileged attend both first and last games in The Riverside.

Would love to see the construction pics from the late 60’s.
If spared my ambition is to be at opening of The Khan Family Stand.
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All your pension & more I suspect!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on October 08, 2019, 01:51:07 PM
All your pension & more I suspect!

I am started to save now Now Cowboy!!
Possibly my only visit to The New Riverside assuming there  are tickets to be had!!
The prawn munchers and their clients from the city will love the new place.

No place for the coal man who used to attend straight off his round covered in coal dust, complete with leather skull cap and apron down his back.

Those were the days......if I can see it once I’ll be happy.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: deadcowboys on October 08, 2019, 02:11:19 PM
I'm sure there will be a place for such a coal man Fernhurst, however, I do wonder where he would leave the horse & cart with current parking restrictions. Maybe the man who used to meander up & down Stevenage road selling bags of monkey nuts would hold onto the horse for him.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: mrmicawbers on October 08, 2019, 05:11:31 PM
I would like to think when the new stand opensthey would offer an upgrade for season ticket holders to take in the experience.Would allow the seats the season ticket holders are relinquishing to be sold off.This is assuming we are back in the top flight.We have done this previously.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: LBNo11 on October 08, 2019, 05:47:33 PM
To compliment this thread I have put together a few vintage photos of the Riverside/Thamesbank before, and during the building of the Riverside stand now being demolished. The first photo is of the Riverside/Thamesbank terrace taken from the Putney end taken shortly after world war II. You can see the terrace being cleaned up after 5 years of nature taking over...

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71659605_10162635908140434_8077706016206094336_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQlvOFMG-Lcl-hGrRwwPfYUj-9J-dKLkblkNqTM2OVVbNuE4PyzkRuXCqBb4cjKU8nY&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=e675d987044552a08c684261dfc467f0&oe=5E3C0178)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: BestOfBrede on October 08, 2019, 06:28:40 PM
I can see it LBNo11
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: deadcowboys on October 08, 2019, 08:06:08 PM
It's been a while, can you confirm you can see this please?

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71659605_10162635908140434_8077706016206094336_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQlvOFMG-Lcl-hGrRwwPfYUj-9J-dKLkblkNqTM2OVVbNuE4PyzkRuXCqBb4cjKU8nY&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=e675d987044552a08c684261dfc467f0&oe=5E3C0178)

Reminds me a bit of Loftus Road.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: f321ffc on October 08, 2019, 08:32:39 PM
I can see it LBNo11
Saw us play at Halifax many years ago, it was much worse than this.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on October 08, 2019, 09:10:35 PM
Blimey Fulham, surely we could afford more than three men to demolish & rebuilt?

Thank you for the pic Les.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: LBNo11 on October 08, 2019, 09:43:43 PM
This 2nd photo is of the Riverside/Thamesbank terrace taken from the Stevenage Road stand with the overgrown Hammersmith terrace on the right:-  (https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72748172_10162636834570434_1576191669793980416_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQnWj2zDoxIIVC-QjH5rPvtsHTo6ShQZYrZrpi3eKnHk02HgdqaLA7NRltia9mRDJgU&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=edae8bc4754d58e68b379e736af56ea2&oe=5E27A6FD)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: LBNo11 on October 08, 2019, 09:45:49 PM
...the third photo is of the Riverside/Thamesbank terrace, taken from teh Putney end, shortly after the clean up..:-
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71882612_10162636848855434_2627047773442146304_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQmaGWDisQZb3H_06QdeMgCPX6mJFkP4vB7E9fVjrUSlP2OK-uo51LldrgUMC5k4Qxw&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=bda8644efe231e712a639e9786664361&oe=5E199CB7)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: LBNo11 on October 08, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
...this 4th photo is facing the Riverside, taken from the Stevenage Road stand, with the Hammersmith end tearrace on the right, shortly after the clean up

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71835687_10162636849405434_4525207397383274496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQkIUpIA7hoflAAGpzSAyC1Wi8OPJGkbn06_Q52H0QdGq5keVjalxH8DVr2crlPLrRI&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=e44021940a3169f24509ade0ecd9654c&oe=5E3D6E6F)


More to follow...
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bobby01 on October 09, 2019, 08:50:12 AM
Impressed in the before after pictures,, good work by three fellas.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Jim© on October 09, 2019, 10:41:45 AM
Thanks LB, love these sort of images. As said, those 3 fellas earned their corn. Probably players too (as was the way) doing an 8 hr shift after training.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on October 09, 2019, 11:54:23 AM
Thanks for those old pictures, brought back early memories of when you could change ends at half time.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Carborundum on October 09, 2019, 03:30:11 PM
Loving these photos, thanks for sharing.

Funny how perspectives change as I mellow with age.  As a young man I stood on a weed infested Putney End thinking the weeds were, well, a bit of an eyesore.  These days I marvel at the speed with which nature can take over absolutely anything.  This summer we pressure washed the front drive and re-sanded the gaps. Yep, those weeds are back already.  It’s probably fair to say that my mellow reaction to this isn’t unanimously shared.

Probably not the right forum to canvas views on an embryonic campaign to replace the rose as our national flower with Network Rail Buddleia.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Dodgin on October 09, 2019, 03:52:03 PM
That third rail back on the corner of the Putney end had my fingerprints.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on October 09, 2019, 07:06:03 PM
From Robert Wood on Twitter @robertW1948

1971/72 programmes gave updates on the New Stand and an explanation that the £250,000 cost wouldn't stop our spending on players

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdF935XoAAQA4U?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdF-n8WsAE9H53?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on October 09, 2019, 07:13:57 PM
Loving these, keep them coming.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: LBNo11 on October 09, 2019, 07:30:46 PM
From Robert Wood on Twitter @robertW1948

1971/72 programmes gave updates on the New Stand and an explanation that the £250,000 cost wouldn't stop our spending on players

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdF935XoAAQA4U?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdF-n8WsAE9H53?format=jpg&name=small)


These are in fact the next ones I was going toshow, will still do so as they are slightly larger...
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on October 24, 2019, 02:34:14 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHpJ2fsXUAAC0jN.jpg)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: HamsterWheel on October 24, 2019, 06:55:54 PM
Didn’t look like much progress on the demolition last night, but the amount of barges and kit in the river is pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Ronnief on October 24, 2019, 07:09:14 PM
Where's our flag waiver?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on October 24, 2019, 08:58:05 PM
I expected the demolition work to be further advanced by now, is the job on programme or has there been slippage already.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on October 24, 2019, 09:36:28 PM
Seems so odd seeing the Riverside undressed like this.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on October 28, 2019, 05:41:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH-aD3AWkAYCyrs?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MikeW on October 28, 2019, 05:52:31 PM
I don't know much about piling but it's impressive!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: KJS on October 28, 2019, 06:59:02 PM
I expected the demolition work to be further advanced by now, is the job on programme or has there been slippage already.

Why would you think that??
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Andy S on October 29, 2019, 01:01:01 AM
Interesting to see LB11 photo with one mess hut in the corner of the ground not a crane in sight. Health and safety has come a long way since then. I don’t remember an overlap in the park. There may have been but I was only young and didn’t go that way
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fulhamross on November 11, 2019, 04:23:59 PM
anymore up to date photos?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Holders on November 11, 2019, 05:05:13 PM
From Robert Wood on Twitter @robertW1948

1971/72 programmes gave updates on the New Stand and an explanation that the £250,000 cost wouldn't stop our spending on players

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdF935XoAAQA4U?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdF-n8WsAE9H53?format=jpg&name=small)


These are in fact the next ones I was going toshow, will still do so as they are slightly larger...

I remember this. It was said that the £250,000 had to be spent then or the cost would rocket and become unaffordable. We were compared to Pompey who instead splashed an equivalent sum on players - they went one way and we the other.

But that was a long time ago before the days of billionaire owners.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on November 12, 2019, 01:27:32 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJLK26zWkAEBD59?format=jpg&name=small)

Significant progress made over the past few weeks! #riverside #FFC
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: I Ronic on November 12, 2019, 01:40:05 PM
Hope the groundsmen  has more than one mower!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on November 12, 2019, 05:01:48 PM
They seem to be dismantling it bit by bit rather than just demolishing it?

Are they looking to recycle parts of the stand elsewhere?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Enfield on November 12, 2019, 07:16:07 PM
They seem to be dismantling it bit by bit rather than just demolishing it?

Are they looking to recycle parts of the stand elsewhere?

Can't just bash it down, this would result in millions of bits of sharp and dangerous concrete debris getting onto the pitch. Has to be carefully dismantled.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on November 12, 2019, 07:23:01 PM
They seem to be dismantling it bit by bit rather than just demolishing it?

Are they looking to recycle parts of the stand elsewhere?

LOL, you can’t just demolish it. Makes me laugh how fans think CC is just a building site! The only access is by boat, one tide per day, so it has to be dismantled bit by bit, stored on the very small section of plot, then shipped out, whilst everyone continues to work.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Nero on November 12, 2019, 08:15:48 PM
They seem to be dismantling it bit by bit rather than just demolishing it?

Are they looking to recycle parts of the stand elsewhere?

LOL, you can’t just demolish it. Makes me laugh how fans think CC is just a building site! The only access is by boat, one tide per day, so it has to be dismantled bit by bit, stored on the very small section of plot, then shipped out, whilst everyone continues to work.

I think we're going need a bigger boat
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on November 14, 2019, 07:45:08 PM
In Bishop's Park looking at all that remains of the Riverside Stand, from Robert Wood

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJVC_5-WsAAsBEZ?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on November 14, 2019, 08:04:25 PM
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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on November 15, 2019, 12:15:34 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJWYV4NXUAEjbDR?format=jpg&name=small)

Reminds me of the old 4th division days, heading downwards to 92nd place & out of the league

Well done MAF & Mickey Adams for the turnaround upwards!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fulham1959 on November 15, 2019, 10:43:52 AM
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Sheer vandalism !
 :005:
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fulham1959 on November 15, 2019, 10:45:47 AM
On second thoughts, the picture is obviously fake.  I mean, when did we last have a blue sky and sunshine ?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bog on November 15, 2019, 11:04:06 AM
Sure that aint a 'photo of it being built?

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on November 15, 2019, 12:13:56 PM
It just needs a few finishing touches.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on November 15, 2019, 04:29:31 PM
There's a really interesting timeline of the schedule of works on the official website if anybody savvy knows how to post the link.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 05:50:13 PM
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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on November 15, 2019, 06:10:17 PM
Now begins to look as if progress is being made .
I would suggest it is the beginning of the final ending of the Riverside Stand which has seen some bad times and some very good times.

The worst coming close to relegation  from the bottom division. The best Dempsey's winner against Juventus.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: cookieg on November 15, 2019, 06:39:58 PM
Where will the dugouts go when they take the middle bit down? Will they stay under a temporary cover or move over the the JH stand or will that involve building work.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 06:52:12 PM
Riverside Works Update

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The phased demolition of the Riverside Stand reached its final stages on Friday afternoon.

The final piece of the roof was removed at 14:40 this afternoon, quickly followed by the last pieces of the shell of the stand, demolished at 15:00. 

(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/2019/dsc_2272.JPG?w=622&h=278)

The process was aided by water dust suppression, which captures any dust particles released during the demolition.

All that remained as the night closed in was the roof support truss, which will be removed on Saturday the 16th November.

Link to the video here https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/november/15/riverside-works-update
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on November 15, 2019, 08:16:48 PM
The Club should be applauded for doing a first class job in keeping us all up to date on the progress,
Well done to all involved 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on November 15, 2019, 08:19:51 PM
It going to chilly on Friday night unless it rains as it always seems to these days.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on November 16, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
It's now starting to resemble Loftus Road.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Dr Quinzel on November 16, 2019, 11:50:03 AM
It's now starting to resemble Loftus Road.

 :005:

Quite sad seeing the old lump go down, isn't it?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: love4ffc on November 16, 2019, 12:23:44 PM
Going to be weird coming to the Cottage and not seeing the Riverside stand.   Also not looking forward to the cold that everyone keeps describing.   
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on November 16, 2019, 12:48:54 PM
It's now starting to resemble Loftus Road.

 :005:

Quite sad seeing the old lump go down, isn't it?

Definitely mixed emotions for me.  I want us to continue building & growing but I'll miss looking across to the seats my parents occupied for so many years.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on November 16, 2019, 12:51:23 PM
Going to be weird coming to the Cottage and not seeing the Riverside stand.   Also not looking forward to the cold that everyone keeps describing.   

I've just checked the forecast & it's predicting showers with temperatures above freezing fortunately.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: love4ffc on November 16, 2019, 04:18:31 PM
Going to be weird coming to the Cottage and not seeing the Riverside stand.   Also not looking forward to the cold that everyone keeps describing.   

I've just checked the forecast & it's predicting showers with temperatures above freezing fortunately.
oh goodie  :003:
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on November 16, 2019, 04:38:48 PM
Well we wont see the sun set behind that stand anymore but Rodak may need to wear his cap for longer on a Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bobby01 on November 16, 2019, 05:54:12 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJaGMXfXkAAZs3W?format=jpg&name=small)



I think this is a beautiful picture, I congratulate whoever took it.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on November 22, 2019, 07:09:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ_9eBRXsAAMLsI?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on November 22, 2019, 07:29:51 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ_9eBRXsAAMLsI?format=jpg&name=small)

Yes it is a beautiful picture.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on November 23, 2019, 10:34:03 AM
Someone stated it's now possible to see the brick foundations of the original terracing that was underneath the Riverside Stand.  Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: LBNo11 on November 24, 2019, 02:09:32 PM
Below is a photo of the remaining Thamesbank foundations prior to the building of the recently demolished Riverside stand.

The original banking of the terracing was made up using the excavation materiel from the Shepherd's Bush underground building program in 1896-7. When Archibald Leitch built the Stevenage Road stand in 1905, the existing banked terracing around the remainder of the ground were concrete terraced and fitted with his soon to be patented crash barriers.

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on November 24, 2019, 02:42:32 PM
Someone stated it's now possible to see the brick foundations of the original terracing that was underneath the Riverside Stand.  Can anyone confirm this?

Yes I am hoping that Half a Crown I dropped on the terrace in our last game there before the construction is still there, I will recognise it as it will be a 1946 date.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Vinnieffc on November 24, 2019, 03:00:27 PM
...the third photo is of the Riverside/Thamesbank terrace, taken from teh Putney end, shortly after the clean up..:-
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71882612_10162636848855434_2627047773442146304_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQmaGWDisQZb3H_06QdeMgCPX6mJFkP4vB7E9fVjrUSlP2OK-uo51LldrgUMC5k4Qxw&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=bda8644efe231e712a639e9786664361&oe=5E199CB7)
That actually looks better than some of the grounds we played away at early 90,s..

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: LBNo11 on November 24, 2019, 03:01:11 PM
Admin · 8 mins

#CravenCottageConcepts Riverside Stand history.

Before the Riverside stand was built in 1972 there had been two previous proposals to build a stand on the Thamesbank. The first, in 1935 was designed by Archibald Leitch's son Archibald Kent Leitch and was designed to hold 6,000 fans for a cost of £11,000, however, the sum back in those days was a large amount that the club could not afford.

The second proposal, in 1950, was also based on a design by Archibald's son was for a two tier stand to hold 4,000 fans under cover; by then the cost had risen to £40,000 and again the amount was more than the board, headed by chairman Charles Bradlaugh Dean, could afford. Below is a page from the programme dated 23rd August 1950 (Vs Charlton) announcing the proposed new stand... (https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/77263197_10162879744430434_8497084412742074368_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ohc=kRYHm_llqr0AQl4qed0km5jyid16HZESj-QgcZNaRnEOSd3u9HgozyTTg&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=42fe6b71a185dce6cd38a1a4faf5f3dc&oe=5E8CAE63)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on November 24, 2019, 05:41:31 PM
As I remember it the terracing was stepped earth held in place with timber battens, the luxury of concrete terraces around the ground did not appear until after the 1949 promotion.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: LBNo11 on November 24, 2019, 06:13:20 PM
As I remember it the terracing was stepped earth held in place with timber battens, the luxury of concrete terraces around the ground did not appear until after the 1949 promotion.

as can be seen by the previous photos just after the war, there was concrete terracing. But I was not around in 1949 to dispute what you say...
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on November 24, 2019, 09:52:24 PM
As I remember it the terracing was stepped earth held in place with timber battens, the luxury of concrete terraces around the ground did not appear until after the 1949 promotion.

as can be seen by the previous photos just after the war, there was concrete terracing. But I was not around in 1949 to dispute what you say...
We cannot be sure of the date of the photo it could have been 1950 or a little later.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Jim© on November 25, 2019, 11:19:18 AM
The terracing in the colour pic of the thamesbank seems to look wider or deeper than the riverside was or is. Is the touchline still inline with the same part of the hammersmith end?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: JimOG on November 25, 2019, 11:55:51 AM
Congrats to all for this brilliant nostalgic thread - has anyone got a pic of the electronic scoreboard mid 1960s? I remember Charlton v Boro (I think) flashing up 6-5 at half time. Typically Fulhamish we said as all laughed . But it was accurate - the game finished 7-7!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Dr Quinzel on November 25, 2019, 01:57:05 PM
Wasn't as cold as I thought it would be on Friday. Could have been my seventeen layers though
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on November 25, 2019, 02:18:51 PM
Someone stated it's now possible to see the brick foundations of the original terracing that was underneath the Riverside Stand.  Can anyone confirm this?

Yes I am hoping that Half a Crown I dropped on the terrace in our last game there before the construction is still there, I will recognise it as it will be a 1946 date.
I think that half crown may be classed as Treasure Trove so you should dismiss any thoughts of self benefit from such a find.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on November 26, 2019, 05:24:22 PM
You MUST check out the video on fulhampier.com , oh my days, this is incredible.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on November 26, 2019, 06:00:40 PM
You MUST check out the video on fulhampier.com , oh my days, this is incredible.


Is there a view of the pitch included?
Actually, is there still a pitch at all?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: _Putney_ on November 26, 2019, 06:00:45 PM
Nothing new really. Don't mind if it's multi functional during off match days, as long as they retain the football feel for match days
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: davew on November 26, 2019, 06:11:02 PM
Wasn't as cold as I thought it would be on Friday. Could have been my seventeen layers though
Maybe our 2nd goal was a factor?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on November 26, 2019, 06:23:53 PM
Chairman Provides Riverside Stand Update

The Chairman reveals an exciting new project - Fulham Pier.

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Welcome to Craven Cottage for not only an important match under the floodlights against Derby County, but also for a latest look at the almost complete disappearance of the Riverside Stand.

As you can see now, the only structures remaining of note are the temporary gantry for television and broadcasting, and the dugouts at pitchside. You’ll probably feel somewhat of a chill from the Thames that was once blocked by the old Riverside Stand and one thing is for certain – everyone at Fulham Football Club appreciates your patience and support during this period of transition, occasional hardship and anticipation of what awaits all of us in the summer of 2021.

And, what you can expect in 2021 is what Fulham supporters, the neighbourhood and all of London have waited for and unquestionably deserve – nothing less than a signature destination befitting our world-class city. For this edition of my programme notes, I want to share my thoughts on the Riverside Stand project and particularly focus on the concept of destination, which was my vision from the moment I was privileged to become your chairman in July 2013.

With that, I am very proud to announce London’s next great destination – Fulham Pier.

An explanation is in order. Yes, there will be a new Riverside Stand, of course, one that will deliver additional capacity to our beloved home ground. Financial sustainability is critical in football, and especially so for a small but mighty club like ours. The new Riverside Stand will represent a major stride forward in ensuring that Fulham will operate successfully and properly, right here at Craven Cottage where it has since 1896 and for generations to come.

The magnificent new Riverside Stand will sit within Fulham Pier, which will be a year-round destination for everyone – football fans, Londoners and visitors to our neighbourhood from near and far. Never has this stretch of the Thames been brought to life, and its full potential realised, until Fulham Pier.

(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/chairman/604px_190502_day_aerial_view.jpg)

In April of 2014, I shared news in a letter to Season Ticket Holders that the Board of the Port of London Authority granted your Club a river works license that permitted us to move forward on the project I am describing today. That was an important accomplishment, but just one of many required to see this journey through. And, along the way, we have been unapologetically patient to ensure that the design and purpose of a new Riverside Stand met the very highest standards as we know them today but would also stand the test of time – just as Craven Cottage itself. The by-product of this deliberate process is Fulham Pier and, with the new Riverside Stand as its centrepiece, I am overjoyed at what the future holds for all of us.

I am confident that Fulham Pier will be everything that everyone had asked or hoped for, and much more. And it may be difficult to see it now, but the future is becoming reality with each day that passes. The piling in the river bed has now commenced in order to create a wooden boardwalk. This will be open to all on non-matchdays, providing a picturesque and uninterrupted stroll along the river for the first time ever. It will be here that you, your friends and family will find places to eat, drink, meet, exercise, learn new activities, take in special events or simply enjoy the waterfront. I envision a vibe that will blend nostalgia with contemporary, always alive, and always respectful of the Club, neighbourhood and city.

To fully appreciate what is in store, I encourage you to visit www.fulhampier.com where you will find a video and numerous renderings that will touch on everything Fulham Pier will embody and offer well beyond Fulham match days. In fact, the very essence of Fulham Pier is to be a unique destination every day of the year – mornings, afternoons and evenings – that will further enhance and complement what has long been a spectacular London neighbourhood where Craven Cottage has been shaped in part over the years every bit by the historic and beautiful parkland to the south, just as it has by the River Thames to the west.

A reinvented and reimagined destination, and a new way of life, will be here soon at the home of Fulham Football Club. You can be certain that we will have frequent updates throughout 2020 and into 2021, and at all times we welcome your questions or comments related to the project or your Club.

Now, back to football! Congrats to Aboubakar Kamara for his role on Friday night in a massive win for us against Queens Park Rangers, and to all of his teammates who were every bit as important in showing the resiliency and commitment to our game that will be essential in our promotion mission.  We now have the opportunity tonight to win three straight games for only the second time this campaign, and this wouldn’t have been possible without our strong response midway through the first half that carried us through the balance of the match. Well done, everyone!

To all visiting fans from Derby, welcome back to Craven Cottage and thank you for making Fulham a road destination in support of the Rams. And to everyone who supports Fulham, thank you as always for your loyalty here at Craven Cottage and on the road as well. We are continually impressed and always grateful!

Thanks for reading. Come on, Fulham!

https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/november/26/chairman-provides-riverside-stand-update

Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: thebumponleroyshead on November 26, 2019, 06:30:43 PM
Anyone fancy watching the game in their post steam dressing gown with a bovril facial and steak and kidney pie smoothie.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on November 26, 2019, 06:31:19 PM
We’re building a new heart of the community. Welcome to Fulham Pier. Opening Summer 2021

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Positioned along the Thames and nestled by parkland, we’re bringing to life this pocket of South West London by creating a unique destination that’ll be open morning, noon and night.

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So whether you start your day with sunrise yoga; pop in for a flat white in between meetings; make space for mindfulness in your lunch break or try a pizza class with the kids; take the whole family to the rooftop pool or make a date with a glass of bubbles, there’s something for everyone.

So please bear with us, because we can’t wait to invite you all as soon as we’re open.

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We’re in leafy South West London, an easy walk, bus, tube, train or hot air balloon ride (well, you never know) away.

Keep checking back for regular updates, but if you are a passionate brand who’d like to work with us, please get in touch:

hi@fulhampier.com

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SW6 6HH

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Leveller on November 26, 2019, 10:12:02 PM
Well that all looks rather fancy.

As an away fan though, it looks like we won’t be able to wave to the people on the pleasure boats on the Thames any more.

Pity.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: mrmicawbers on November 27, 2019, 12:44:46 AM
I'm in
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MikeTheCubed on November 27, 2019, 01:09:45 AM
When I saw the word Savour in the title of the new web page I misread the word Pier as Pies. Oh well.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: junior white on December 29, 2019, 02:59:43 PM
Any recent photos?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:40:16 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/jVysBM5/20191229-145826.jpg)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fcfulham55 on December 30, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)

That's a magnificent photo.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fulhamross on January 14, 2020, 03:19:14 PM
they set up that webcam yet?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Andy S on January 14, 2020, 04:07:01 PM
What is the point. Most of us can wait between games for an update. It is not going to move that quickly. My be in the summer it might be nice
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: PhilEsh on January 14, 2020, 04:31:25 PM
What is the point. Most of us can wait between games for an update. It is not going to move that quickly. My be in the summer it might be nice

Because it provides an interesting insight for those with an interest in construction projects.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: ron on January 15, 2020, 03:07:06 PM
Slow in the build up?  Both on and off the pitch then...?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Neil D on January 15, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)

That's a magnificent photo.

It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is.  Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Roberty on January 15, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)

That's a magnificent photo.

It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is.  Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?

It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent

The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fulhamben on January 15, 2020, 06:35:40 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)

That's a magnificent photo.

It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is.  Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?

It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent

The clubs best hope the club have of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
am I going crazy or didn’t we have an asbestos roof until maf did his refurb
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Roberty on January 15, 2020, 07:37:06 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)

That's a magnificent photo.

It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is.  Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?

It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent

The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
am I going crazy or didn’t we have an asbestos roof until maf did his refurb
It may well have been but I would expect that is had to be done using materials of a similar design
It was also refurbished about 3 or 4 years ago
In each instance it would have to have been done in consultation with English Heritage
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fulhamben on January 15, 2020, 11:41:26 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)

That's a magnificent photo.

It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is.  Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?

It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent

The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
am I going crazy or didn’t we have an asbestos roof until maf did his refurb
It may well have been but I would expect that is had to be done using materials of a similar design
It was also refurbished about 3 or 4 years ago
In each instance it would have to have been done in consultation with English Heritage
and also I’m sure I read somewhere that it was just the wall that is listed
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fulhamross on January 17, 2020, 09:14:39 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on January 17, 2020, 09:16:37 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: deadcowboys on January 17, 2020, 09:33:51 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: bog on January 17, 2020, 09:36:28 AM
Just thinking that yesterday.

This is terrific, diggers and stuff and men beavering away.
I will visit every time there is an update

Fernhurst, will be a bit different from my long gone dad clambering along the Thames before climbing in over the wall to see a game......

 092.gif
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Penfold on January 17, 2020, 10:21:23 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)

That's a magnificent photo.

It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is.  Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?

It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent

The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is

Planning permission was granted in 2001 for demolition of most of the stand (the facade would have remained), so a precedent is there for alterations.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Chesh on January 17, 2020, 10:40:35 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
Couldn't agree more.
Not for me....it may be cramped and outdated, but it is unique, and is characteristic that the Cottage's main function now is to house the dressing rooms, and be the place where the team emerges from. If it loses that function, it will lose some of it's relevance going forward.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SuffolkWhite on January 17, 2020, 11:47:00 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
Couldn't agree more.
Not for me....it may be cramped and outdated, but it is unique, and is characteristic that the Cottage's main function now is to house the dressing rooms, and be the place where the team emerges from. If it loses that function, it will lose some of it's relevance going forward.


 :plus one:  also the likes of Alec Ferguson and big teams don't like it, so they are uncomfortable which is a good thing  imo.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 17, 2020, 01:44:41 PM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
Couldn't agree more.
Not for me....it may be cramped and outdated, but it is unique, and is characteristic that the Cottage's main function now is to house the dressing rooms, and be the place where the team emerges from. If it loses that function, it will lose some of it's relevance going forward.


 :plus one:  also the likes of Alec Ferguson and big teams don't like it, so they are uncomfortable which is a good thing  imo.

Anything that makes lives difficult for opponents is a plus for me, if it gives us another edge even a minor one it contributes. If I had my way I would give opponents cold showers, no electricity and flat warm up balls.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Fernhurst on January 17, 2020, 02:04:49 PM
Just thinking that yesterday.

This is terrific, diggers and stuff and men beavering away.
I will visit every time there is an update

Fernhurst, will be a bit different from my long gone dad clambering along the Thames before climbing in over the wall to see a game......

 092.gif

Bog, my old man told me stories of waiting so patiently on the step of "The Worlds End" pub for his Dad to come out and give him a penny to go to the football. Him and his mate would then run all the way to The Cottage, but, instead of spending on entrance fee would climb a tree in Bishops Park and inch out before swinging down and dropping into the Putney end gents toilets, much to the annoyance of the users of the convenience.
What times they were, I'm guessing that would have been about 1913!!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: I Ronic on January 17, 2020, 02:08:51 PM
"What times they were, I'm guessing that would have been about 1913"

Would that of been a midweek game?  :003:
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: KeenCottager on January 17, 2020, 02:11:25 PM
Just thinking that yesterday.

This is terrific, diggers and stuff and men beavering away.
I will visit every time there is an update

Fernhurst, will be a bit different from my long gone dad clambering along the Thames before climbing in over the wall to see a game......

 092.gif

Bog, my old man told me stories of waiting so patiently on the step of "The Worlds End" pub for his Dad to come out and give him a penny to go to the football. Him and his mate would then run all the way to The Cottage, but, instead of spending on entrance fee would climb a tree in Bishops Park and inch out before swinging down and dropping into the Putney end gents toilets, much to the annoyance of the users of the convenience.
What times they were, I'm guessing that would have been about 1913!!

My dad told me he also used to do this too, would have been in the 50's though
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Statto on January 17, 2020, 02:15:18 PM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.

Couldn't agree more.

+1
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: love4ffc on February 04, 2020, 07:10:41 PM
Not sure if this has been asked and answered yet but,

does anyone know if the pitch will increase in width when the new stand is finished? 
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on February 04, 2020, 07:35:50 PM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.

There's a bit of room to reconfigure inside the Cottage, e.g. the treatment room. Would the planning laws allow internal alterations?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Vinnieffc on February 05, 2020, 01:48:44 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)

That's a magnificent photo.

It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is.  Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?

It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent

The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
I thought it was only the Stevenage Road facade that was listed.

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Penfold on February 05, 2020, 02:49:08 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)

That's a magnificent photo.

It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is.  Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?

It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent

The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
I thought it was only the Stevenage Road facade that was listed.

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The actual stand in its entirety, together with the Cottage were listed in 1987.

However, planning permission was granted in 2001 to demolish all of the stand bar the facade and also to demolish the Cottage. Therefore, there is a precedent should alterations want to be made to the JHS.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 02:49:39 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg

Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February,  well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on February 05, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg

Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February,  well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Vinnieffc on February 05, 2020, 03:03:15 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)

That's a magnificent photo.

It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is.  Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?

It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent

The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
I thought it was only the Stevenage Road facade that was listed.

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The actual stand in its entirety, together with the Cottage were listed in 1987.

However, planning permission was granted in 2001 to demolish all of the stand bar the facade and also to demolish the Cottage. Therefore, there is a precedent should alterations want to be made to the JHS.
Ah okay, cheers

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: gang on February 05, 2020, 03:16:36 PM
Not sure if this has been asked and answered yet but,

does anyone know if the pitch will increase in width when the new stand is finished? 


I don't imagine so.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg

Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February,  well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.

Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: MJG on February 05, 2020, 03:37:53 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg

Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February,  well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.

Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case
Only in relation to that document, still on track with their opening date.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: fulhamross on February 05, 2020, 03:54:57 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg

Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February,  well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.

Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case

The UK is lazy
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: HamsterWheel on February 05, 2020, 04:06:59 PM
Bound to be late - I've only ever seen one builder on site, and he seems to prefer a flag to a shovel....
I'm not sure the mild winter will have helped - it's been very wet so they'll have been pumping out all the time.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: mancwhite on February 05, 2020, 04:24:20 PM
Should have got the Chinese into to build it - the way they got that hospital up and running we would be sitting in it now 😂
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: west kowloon white on February 05, 2020, 04:43:05 PM
Must be climate change ,inclusion,homophobia etc.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Vinnieffc on February 05, 2020, 04:55:49 PM
Not sure if this has been asked and answered yet but,

does anyone know if the pitch will increase in width when the new stand is finished? 


I don't imagine so.
Think we already have max width as it is, so very much doubt it.

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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: General on February 05, 2020, 06:58:51 PM
Should have got the Chinese into to build it - the way they got that hospital up and running we would be sitting in it now 😂

Trust me you really don't want that.. the standards and type of job that will be achieved in a 10 day period will be extremely basic.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: General on February 05, 2020, 07:05:51 PM
Out of interest - does anyone know what the extra capacity will bring in (if full) per season on an average ticket price for the stand prior to demolition (I'm assuming to recoup costs and for 'the privilege' prices will go up, not looking for a scientific figure) and how much the stand is supposedly going to cost? Wondering how long it'd take to recoup costs and make a profit. Assuming also that retail spaces and restaurant/living spaces and meeting rooms will add extra revenue, but harder to predict so leaving it out.

May have been noted before but 17 pages is a lot to sift through...

Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: General on February 05, 2020, 07:11:50 PM
Out of interest - does anyone know what the extra capacity will bring in (if full) per season on an average ticket price for the stand prior to demolition (I'm assuming to recoup costs and for 'the privilege' prices will go up, not looking for a scientific figure) and how much the stand is supposedly going to cost? Wondering how long it'd take to recoup costs and make a profit. Assuming also that retail spaces and restaurant/living spaces and meeting rooms will add extra revenue, but harder to predict so leaving it out.

May have been noted before but 17 pages is a lot to sift through...



Decided not to be lazy - quoted at around £80 mill - although these things tend to go over budget, with a full capacity of 29,600 expected.. current capacity 25,700. - only 3,900 extra seats, although with a new stand.

If we went off the maths of 3,900 x £40 (conservative cost) and 19 home games a season (based on a premiership fixture level only), it'd see revenue increase by £2,964,000 a year. So it'd take 27 years to recoup on that basic level.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Deeping_white on February 05, 2020, 07:25:51 PM
Out of interest - does anyone know what the extra capacity will bring in (if full) per season on an average ticket price for the stand prior to demolition (I'm assuming to recoup costs and for 'the privilege' prices will go up, not looking for a scientific figure) and how much the stand is supposedly going to cost? Wondering how long it'd take to recoup costs and make a profit. Assuming also that retail spaces and restaurant/living spaces and meeting rooms will add extra revenue, but harder to predict so leaving it out.

May have been noted before but 17 pages is a lot to sift through...



Decided not to be lazy - quoted at around £80 mill - although these things tend to go over budget, with a full capacity of 29,600 expected.. current capacity 25,700. - only 3,900 extra seats, although with a new stand.

If we went off the maths of 3,900 x £40 (conservative cost) and 19 home games a season (based on a premiership fixture level only), it'd see revenue increase by £2,964,000 a year. So it'd take 27 years to recoup on that basic level.

Factor in the rent from retail units plus however much they make from the premium food/drink vendors they're going to put in there, plus what I think would also be a normal functioning restaurant based on the survey they did for it.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on February 05, 2020, 07:28:36 PM
If you are calculating covering costs you should include the potential of the restaurant  gym and other facilities to be included in the new stand plus the apartments which must be there for the financial benefit of the club.

Oops sorry Modified - obviously like minds with that immediately above.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 05, 2020, 10:27:30 PM
Out of interest - does anyone know what the extra capacity will bring in (if full) per season on an average ticket price for the stand prior to demolition (I'm assuming to recoup costs and for 'the privilege' prices will go up, not looking for a scientific figure) and how much the stand is supposedly going to cost? Wondering how long it'd take to recoup costs and make a profit. Assuming also that retail spaces and restaurant/living spaces and meeting rooms will add extra revenue, but harder to predict so leaving it out.

May have been noted before but 17 pages is a lot to sift through...


Decided not to be lazy - quoted at around £80 mill - although these things tend to go over budget, with a full capacity of 29,600 expected.. current capacity 25,700. - only 3,900 extra seats, although with a new stand.

If we went off the maths of 3,900 x £40 (conservative cost) and 19 home games a season (based on a premiership fixture level only), it'd see revenue increase by £2,964,000 a year. So it'd take 27 years to recoup on that basic level.

You are not factoring in the extra sponsorship a club with "premium seating" gets vs club with only "standard seating". In addition, the stand is built with money from investment from Mr Khan that doesn't count towards FFP, but the revenue raised from gate receipts is included in FFP, so we can spend an extra £2,964,000 (using your numbers) on players, that is hopefully enough to finish one place higher per season (e.g. 2nd in Championship vs 3rd Championship) or (17th in Premier League vs 18th  in Premier League). Finishing one place higher affects TV money and that affect the position for the next season too. One place higher each season over 10 years get us to around 13th in the Premier League, instead of 3rd in the Championship.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Mr K.Dilkington on February 06, 2020, 06:19:35 PM
Should have got the Chinese into to build it - the way they got that hospital up and running we would be sitting in it now 😂

Have you seen those videos of Chinese blocks of flats collapsing with people inside? lol
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: ealex40 on February 06, 2020, 07:08:08 PM
Should have got the Chinese into to build it - the way they got that hospital up and running we would be sitting in it now 😂

Have you seen those videos of Chinese blocks of flats collapsing with people inside? lol

I remember some years ago, the Chinese thought they would add a subterranean level below an existing high rise apartment building. Guess what? In no time the high rise become a single story, laying on it's side.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Twig on February 06, 2020, 08:08:15 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg

Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February,  well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.

Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case

The UK is lazy

Thanks for that enlightening observation.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 07, 2020, 03:28:14 AM

Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case

The UK is lazy

Thanks for that enlightening observation.

We have waited 20 years for the Riverside to be rebuilt another 2 months is nothing.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: PhilEsh on February 07, 2020, 08:52:01 AM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg

Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February,  well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.

I met with one of the hospitality team last week as they came out to our office regarding next years renewal. From what I understand, the new steel construction taking place on the river side of the Putney End will be additional club VIP entertainment places. The police and medical facilities are being built into the new stand.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 07, 2020, 07:25:14 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg

Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February,  well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.

Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case

The UK is lazy

You obviously don’t live here.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Friendsoffulham on March 06, 2020, 08:43:32 PM
You can see where the pylons have gone in now, and the concrete base laid across the top, forming the pier.

(https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/gallery/361443_06_03_20_8_37_11.jpeg)

(https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/gallery/361443_06_03_20_8_37_51.jpeg)
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: KeenCottager on March 16, 2020, 10:51:27 AM
One positive thing that may come from this awful virus is that we must at least be on schedule with the redevelopment -  surely we have a chance here to get ahead and maybe open the stand earlier than first estimated – there will be extra hours and days in the coming weeks that we are available to proceed with the building works (unless the workforce is not available)

Anyone been past the Taj? Much activity on site?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on March 29, 2020, 11:42:39 AM
Not sure if this has already been posted?


Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on March 29, 2020, 11:46:04 AM
Where are the Flag Poles going to be located ?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Neil D on March 29, 2020, 12:05:09 PM
Not sure if this has already been posted?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw

Hmmm.  One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: I Ronic on March 29, 2020, 12:14:04 PM
Where are the Flag Poles going to be located ?

And all the letters for the half time results!
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: HillingdonFFC on March 29, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Not sure if this has already been posted?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw

Hmmm.  One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.


Brilliant, isnt it , far preferable to a shiny new boring plastic bowl
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: ScalleysDad on March 29, 2020, 01:51:31 PM
Not sure if this has already been posted?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw

Hmmm.  One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.


That will be great on commentary. " Fulham will be attacking one of the just about adequate stands in the first half and in the interest of symmetry defending the other barely adequate one. First corner of the game already. Hector to take it in front of the relic stand.......... and there it goes straight into the state of the art stand where those that can afford it go for a nap"


Brilliant, isnt it , far preferable to a shiny new boring plastic bowl
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Twig on March 29, 2020, 02:20:52 PM
Not sure if this has already been posted?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw

Hmmm.  One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.


Brilliant, isnt it , far preferable to a shiny new boring plastic bowl

Agreed
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on March 29, 2020, 02:47:57 PM
Not sure if this has already been posted?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw

Hmmm.  One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.


Brilliant, isnt it , far preferable to a shiny new boring plastic bowl

Agreed

Yes our ground has culture and character and history and is picturesque. A lot of these modern bowls who lack what Craven Cottage has in abundance now, will look even worse when in the future they will end up a wasteland of White Elephants, half empty soulless stadiums who sold their soul to the culture of greed and ego polishing. 
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: f321ffc on March 29, 2020, 02:51:20 PM
Not sure if this has already been posted?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw

Hmmm.  One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
Relic? I think you mean iconic.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Holders on March 29, 2020, 02:52:06 PM
I don't like it but I'll be glad when it's built as it will show commitment.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on March 29, 2020, 10:21:11 PM
We all wonder now how coronavirus will effect our dream stand, will we ever see it full of fans.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: ron on March 29, 2020, 10:57:37 PM
Disasters pass. Of course we will.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: JimOG on March 30, 2020, 01:36:48 PM
Not sure if this has already been posted?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw

Hmmm.  One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.

I'm hugely impressed  thing is nothing stays the same. When I started going in the late 1950s there were no stands apart from Stevenage Road. I don't think Hammy End or Putney are works of art. And if SK wants to integrate them with this style that's fine - life moves on....once we keep the cottage!



That will be great on commentary. " Fulham will be attacking one of the just about adequate stands in the first half and in the interest of symmetry defending the other barely adequate one. First corner of the game already. Hector to take it in front of the relic stand.......... and there it goes straight into the state of the art stand where those that can afford it go for a nap"


Brilliant, isnt it , far preferable to a shiny new boring plastic bowl
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: HillingdonFFC on March 30, 2020, 04:21:54 PM
Not sure if this has already been posted?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw

Hmmm.  One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
Relic? I think you mean iconic.



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Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: SP on March 30, 2020, 04:37:09 PM
We all wonder now how coronavirus will effect our dream stand, will we ever see it full of fans.

I doubt it'll ever be full of fans due to the number of corporates to be housed there?
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: alfie on March 30, 2020, 05:26:32 PM
We all wonder now how coronavirus will effect our dream stand, will we ever see it full of fans.

I doubt it'll ever be full of fans due to the number of corporates to be housed there?
Maybe a lot of those corporates are Fulham fans.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on March 30, 2020, 05:52:54 PM
We all wonder now how coronavirus will effect our dream stand, will we ever see it full of fans.

I doubt it'll ever be full of fans due to the number of corporates to be housed there?
Maybe a lot of those corporates are Fulham fans.

If any of them were not Fulham fans then a big match experience by the river in the comfort of a modern stand is not a bad way to convert them.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Riversider on March 31, 2020, 02:31:15 AM
Does anybody on here live locally to the ground , and can pop along and take a picture updating any work in progress.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: filham on March 31, 2020, 11:06:20 AM
Does anybody on here live locally to the ground , and can pop along and take a picture updating any work in progress.
I imagine all work has stopped.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: Statto on March 31, 2020, 02:49:49 PM
Does anybody on here live locally to the ground , and can pop along and take a picture updating any work in progress.
I imagine all work has stopped.

Large construction sites near me remain active
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: alfie on March 31, 2020, 03:26:22 PM
Does anybody on here live locally to the ground , and can pop along and take a picture updating any work in progress.
I live 2 min walk, unfortunately having COPD I am in prison for the foreseeable future or the end of my life whatever comes first, but I am sure there is nothing going on.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: mrmicawbers on March 31, 2020, 04:21:48 PM
Having a studio built in the back garden and have just had to fill in a form so the fella doing the patio can show it to the police in case he gets stopped in his Van.This is down in Whitstable.Good as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Riverside Development Update
Post by: gang on April 01, 2020, 02:06:09 PM
I have a contact who is working at the ground in a portakabin on the surveying and architecture side and she has told me that work is still continuing.