Reach out replace contact....educator replace teacher, and matchday 6 replace 6th game....is it me
I'm with you mate. I can only say we probably said an say things our parents thought the same,
Classic example my daughter , lived in OZ for 23 years now and on the deli counter sham asks can I get some cheese , prawns etc , not can I have.
VERY ANNOYING.
Not only you. I get a bit pee'ed off with these unnecessary revisions of the English language. New words for new concepts I'm fine with but not unnecessary changes.
My latest pet-hate in the world of business jargon is "let's unpack this", in place of "let's look in to this in a bit more detail".
Ugh.
Lets Blue Sky over this
'From minute 1'....or 'you guys'.....
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The phrase "enhanced user experience" gets on my tits.
Gig economy replace exploitation
Quote from: bobbo on June 07, 2019, 08:04:32 PM
I'm with you mate. I can only say we probably said an say things our parents thought the same,
Classic example my daughter , lived in OZ for 23 years now and on the deli counter sham asks can I get some cheese , prawns etc , not can I have.
VERY ANNOYING.
Precisely, like beginning replies with "so", instead of "well". That's crept in over the last few years as well and I even hear adults saying it.
"I hear what your saying". Does this translate to. "I don't care about your opinion".
No Prob. instead of yes that will be alright.
But remember Shakespear had similar complaints with the many new phrases he introduced, the English language is forever developing.
I'm sure we all sound like fuddy duddies (eh!) but the English language has always changed/evolved and is able to take in new words and expressions. It will continue to do so
"Awesome". I've told people a hundred million times not to exaggerate by just using this word!
Quote from: I Ronic on June 08, 2019, 09:58:24 AM
The phrase "enhanced user experience" gets on my tits.
If I had a pair that would certainly get on them.
Can I get a Cappuccino? Sure the machines over there, help yourself.
Where did 'can I get' when ordering something come from? All our (grown up) kids use it.
and when I go to the bar...... are you all right? yes thank you, just wondering if there was anyone who will serve me a drink! You could have said can I help you or what would you like but no ..are you all right, where did that come from?
My fav topic that unites us all
Pet hates
These are my learns instead of i learned
Ahead of the game instead of before
Ongoing instead of continuing
Rosta instead of squad
False number nine instead of smaller central striker
Third man running instead of i am an idiot that does notunderstand football
Epl instead of prem
Cuz
Fam
Bro
Innit
I gettcha
Talking with that stupid croydonish accent that makes kids sound slightly dense
Other stuff too that will come back later
Quote from: Dodger53 on June 08, 2019, 09:03:56 PM
Where did 'can I get' when ordering something come from? All our (grown up) kids use it.
and when I go to the bar...... are you all right? yes thank you, just wondering if there was anyone who will serve me a drink! You could have said can I help you or what would you like but no ..are you all right, where did that come from?
Can i get is a massive pet hate.... please may i have is so much nicer
Are we all getting old and cantankerous
" This ", what on earth does that mean, has the world left me behind.
You lot are a bunch of misery's. Live and let live I say it makes life much easier
Quote from: Dodger53 on June 08, 2019, 09:03:56 PM
Where did 'can I get' when ordering something come from? All our (grown up) kids use it.
and when I go to the bar...... are you all right? yes thank you, just wondering if there was anyone who will serve me a drink! You could have said can I help you or what would you like but no ..are you all right, where did that come from?
I wonder if it evolved from mirroring the question "what can I get for you?".
I dislike when many male footballers usually manage to throw in "...like I say.." to many of their interviews or when young people constantly use the word "like". By young people I don't mean Michael Gove. Snort, snort! 092.gif
"Underway" when they mean under way (even the BBC does it). It comes from vessels making way - hence giving way etc.
"Instore" when they mean in the shop. The store is out the back and it's no use out there.
Jumping "out the window" when they mean out of the window.
"If I was" rather than if I were.
"Should of" when they mean should have.
They're/their/there
You're/your
Graham Norton.
As long as you are being understood I see no problem with the evolution of language. Although I still shiver when somebody pronounces the letter 'H' as Haitch and not Aitch. Language changes and expressions are different in different parts of one Country let alone further afield. SO, live and let live.
'Stand out' performer instead of outstanding. ggrrr!
Oh and another one; when asking after someones health. "How are you today" - "Good thanks"
I wasn't asking where you are on the moral compass, it was an equiry about your personal health.
moving forward, offshore, at this point in time-that's enough for now
When people use "So, it was Like actually" then go on to describe what happened and also when discussing a project with a customer at work they say "Can WE do the math on this one" when what they really mean is can you please work out some prices for me. When did math replace maths?
Moving forward I hope the cohort of individuals who represent Fulham on the field of play next season can show the resilience required to achieve promotion.
Quote from: Cornishnick on June 09, 2019, 08:01:43 PM
Oh and another one; when asking after someones health. "How are you today" - "Good thanks"
I wasn't asking where you are on the moral compass, it was an equiry about your personal health.
Good one, rather like misuse of "if" and "whether".
What about Soccer instead of Football. Or Off Season instead of close season
Quote from: Andy S on June 09, 2019, 12:10:19 AM
You lot are a bunch of misery's. Live and let live I say it makes life much easier
youre outvoted Andy sorry mate there's too many old miseries don't like it. But we all probably not got loads of years left that's why 😜😜😜
The word "like" seems to, like, come up every second word, like.
Unless it's just my kids :022:
'Immersive' experiences (probably 'curated' just for you). These are over-used rather than wrong.
'Passionate', 'existential', 'evidence-based' : all over-used, and I'm not entirely sure what 'existential' means.
'Amazing', 'awesome' : both mean 'quite good'.
" . . . and much, much, more" means, "We have listed everything and there is nothing else".
"Yeah, no" is often used in responses by sportspeople when being interviewed.
I've also noticed that 'question mark' is used in spoken reports, etc., when the word should be 'question'
Language is fascinating !
Quote from: Burt on June 10, 2019, 12:53:04 PM
The word "like" seems to, like, come up every second word, like.
Unless it's just my kids :022:
A choirmaster once said that it took him ages to get his choristers to sing "father-like he tends and spares us" rather than, as they wanted to sing "father, like, he tends and spares us".
True story, I believe.
I posted on the pet hates thread that the over use and incorrect use of 'like' was getting on my ample man boobs . Second to this is how everyone is now on a 'journey ' without seeming to move more than a few yards !
Like HV71, a pet hate is people putting "like" in front of every other word. "I was, like, trying to like get on a bus when, like, this bloke, like pushed in front of me"
Heard a new one the other day: apparently, in parts of the pc community, the term "disabled" is now offensive and should be replaced by "differently abled". The language is getting crippled.
My wife hates when she is in a meeting and people ask "where we at with" instead of "how are we doing with" ?
Quote from: Fulham1959 on June 10, 2019, 12:53:25 PM
'Immersive' experiences (probably 'curated' just for you). These are over-used rather than wrong.
'Passionate', 'existential', 'evidence-based' : all over-used, and I'm not entirely sure what 'existential' means.
'Amazing', 'awesome' : both mean 'quite good'.
" . . . and much, much, more" means, "We have listed everything and there is nothing else".
"Yeah, no" is often used in responses by sportspeople when being interviewed.
I've also noticed that 'question mark' is used in spoken reports, etc., when the word should be 'question'
Language is fascinating !
I think of 'existential' with a type of philosophy, Existentialism, associated with the post-war era, and the 50's, with the likes of John - Paul Sartre sitting in Parisian cafes drinking coffee and talking about individual freedom and the meaning of life, while smoking strong fags, but today it just seems to mean 'existing'. An existential threat is just an existing threat, I think.
Nothing to do with Existentialist philosophy anyway, I don't think, which has confused me, and jars with me a bit.
But, as you say language is fascinating, and evolves all the time.
The tendency today seems to be to use a lot of flowery words, as you say, when simple language would convey your meaning far more clearly. I prefer prefer straightforward, precise language. Why use existential if you just mean that something exists, for example?
Quote from: love4ffc on June 11, 2019, 12:50:14 AM
My wife hates when she is in a meeting and people ask "where we at with" instead of "how are we doing with" ?
Or even "where are we with...".
"Meeting with" instead of meeting, "talking with" instead of talking to.
Quote from: RaySmith on June 11, 2019, 01:40:37 AM
Quote from: Fulham1959 on June 10, 2019, 12:53:25 PM
'Immersive' experiences (probably 'curated' just for you). These are over-used rather than wrong.
'Passionate', 'existential', 'evidence-based' : all over-used, and I'm not entirely sure what 'existential' means.
'Amazing', 'awesome' : both mean 'quite good'.
" . . . and much, much, more" means, "We have listed everything and there is nothing else".
"Yeah, no" is often used in responses by sportspeople when being interviewed.
I've also noticed that 'question mark' is used in spoken reports, etc., when the word should be 'question'
Language is fascinating !
I think of 'existential' with a type of philosophy, Existentialism, associated with the post-war era, and the 50's, with the likes of John - Paul Sartre sitting in Parisian cafes drinking coffee and talking about individual freedom and the meaning of life, while smoking strong fags, but today it just seems to mean 'existing'. An existential threat is just an existing threat, I think.
Nothing to do with Existentialist philosophy anyway, I don't think, which has confused me, and jars with me a bit.
But, as you say language is fascinating, and evolves all the time.
The tendency today seems to be to use a lot of flowery words, as you say, when simple language would convey your meaning far more clearly. I prefer prefer straightforward, precise language. Why use existential if you just mean that something exists, for example?
I've understood an existential threat to mean a fundamental threat to the existence of something. E.g. climate change is an existential threat to the polar ice-caps.
Why not just say a threat to their continuing existence?
Quote from: RaySmith on June 11, 2019, 10:20:09 AM
Why not just say a threat to their continuing existence?
Less words?
People saying yourself or myself as a polite version of me or you. They mean different things!!
the oft used
revert back
should just be
revert
because revert back is a double negative
You are not wrong.
Quote from: Holders on June 08, 2019, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: bobbo on June 07, 2019, 08:04:32 PM
I'm with you mate. I can only say we probably said an say things our parents thought the same,
Classic example my daughter , lived in OZ for 23 years now and on the deli counter sham asks can I get some cheese , prawns etc , not can I have.
VERY ANNOYING.
Precisely, like beginning replies with "so", instead of "well". That's crept in over the last few years as well and I even hear adults saying it.
Agreed wholeheartedly - to me it is condescending, as if what is about to be said follows automatically and must be self-evident. If you need time to gather your thoughts say "Well...".
Quote from: LittleErn on June 12, 2019, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Holders on June 08, 2019, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: bobbo on June 07, 2019, 08:04:32 PM
I'm with you mate. I can only say we probably said an say things our parents thought the same,
Classic example my daughter , lived in OZ for 23 years now and on the deli counter sham asks can I get some cheese , prawns etc , not can I have.
VERY ANNOYING.
Precisely, like beginning replies with "so", instead of "well". That's crept in over the last few years as well and I even hear adults saying it.
Agreed wholeheartedly - to me it is condescending, as if what is about to be said follows automatically and must be self-evident. If you need time to gather your thoughts say "Well...".
Indeed.
I even saw a serious written piece today that even began with "so".
Quote from: Holders on June 12, 2019, 11:34:34 AM
Quote from: LittleErn on June 12, 2019, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Holders on June 08, 2019, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: bobbo on June 07, 2019, 08:04:32 PM
I'm with you mate. I can only say we probably said an say things our parents thought the same,
Classic example my daughter , lived in OZ for 23 years now and on the deli counter sham asks can I get some cheese , prawns etc , not can I have.
VERY ANNOYING.
Precisely, like beginning replies with "so", instead of "well". That's crept in over the last few years as well and I even hear adults saying it.
Agreed wholeheartedly - to me it is condescending, as if what is about to be said follows automatically and must be self-evident. If you need time to gather your thoughts say "Well...".
Indeed.
I even saw a serious written piece today that even began with "so".
That's a double 'even' !
There could be a great variation on the old Hughie Green Yes/No game : the person would get gonged-out if they started a reply with "so".
I long to hear a radio interviewer say, "Before I ask any questions, could I please ask you not to start any of your replies with the word "so" ?
Quote from: ALG01 on June 11, 2019, 10:42:31 PM
the oft used
revert back
should just be
revert
because revert back is a double negative
Not a double-negative. It's 'tautology' or, as my English teacher called it, 'redundancy' : "a phrase or expression in which the same thing is said twice in different words".
Another example is "return it back" when "return" would suffice. Actually, it's a combination of "return" and "take-it-back", so maybe not pure tautology.
We've smashed it------------AAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Quote from: LittleErn on June 12, 2019, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Holders on June 08, 2019, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: bobbo on June 07, 2019, 08:04:32 PM
I'm with you mate. I can only say we probably said an say things our parents thought the same,
Classic example my daughter , lived in OZ for 23 years now and on the deli counter sham asks can I get some cheese , prawns etc , not can I have.
VERY ANNOYING.
Precisely, like beginning replies with "so", instead of "well". That's crept in over the last few years as well and I even hear adults saying it.
Agreed wholeheartedly - to me it is condescending, as if what is about to be said follows automatically and must be self-evident. If you need time to gather your thoughts say "Well...".
I was told I was condescending once. That means talking down to people.
Quote from: abfg on June 12, 2019, 07:34:41 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on June 12, 2019, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Holders on June 08, 2019, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: bobbo on June 07, 2019, 08:04:32 PM
I'm with you mate. I can only say we probably said an say things our parents thought the same,
Classic example my daughter , lived in OZ for 23 years now and on the deli counter sham asks can I get some cheese , prawns etc , not can I have.
VERY ANNOYING.
Precisely, like beginning replies with "so", instead of "well". That's crept in over the last few years as well and I even hear adults saying it.
Agreed wholeheartedly - to me it is condescending, as if what is about to be said follows automatically and must be self-evident. If you need time to gather your thoughts say "Well...".
I was told I was condescending once. That means talking down to people.
My boss once told me I intimidate my co-workers, so I stared at him until he apologised.