Fulham star a January 'suggestion' for Serie A side – Would cost a fee 'almost equal to his age'
By Tom Coast - 12th November 2019
Aleksandar Mitrovic really likes the Championship, especially with Fulham, as the Serbian striker has played 33 games in England's second division with the Craven Cottage side, and has scored 24 goals.
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He did well in the Premier League too, but never quite reached the same heights, finding the back of the net 11 times in 37 appearances last season.
Still, this goalscoring record has caught the eye of a number of teams over time, with the latest being Genoa in Italy, according to PrimoCanale.
The club are looking for some attacking reinforcement in January, and it's stated the Fulham man is a 'suggestion' for the Serie A side, alongside the likes of Anostosis Donis (currently at Reims on loan from Stuttgart) and free agent Hatem Ben Arfa.
As for what he would cost, PrimoCanale explain he would set back Genoa a fee 'almost equal to his age', so since he's 25, we're guessing they mean €25m and not €25.
That's a considerable amount for the Italians, but it would be interesting to see what Fulham would do if presented with that choice.
After all, they spent £22.5m on him in the first place, and this would be a great opportunity to get their money back if they are in a position of need.
Over to you, Genoa.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-star-january-suggestion-serie-side-cost-fee-almost-equal-age/
€25 million :005: no chance
I don't think double that really scratches the surface.
11 goals in any PL team is a good return, let alone one with European castaways thrown together with silly money.
Dare I say he could fetch closer to 100m vs. 25m?
Agree with posts above, I suspect we turned down double that from China less than a year ago so really they need to treble it to get Tony's attention
The way Mitro is playing has to develop rumours but I wold have thought the media rumour specialists could have come up with something better than this.
I would have expected a full sports page spread suggesting a top ten Premiership club and a figure of £50m as starters,
No chance, we are not in a position of need. So basically unless the offer is in excess of £50 mill the answer is no. Lets not forget we would need to replace him and who is there. So on second thoughts the answer is no irrespective of how much they offer.
Yes but with our geniuses they will probably let him go for 10 million
Quote from: Bill2 on November 12, 2019, 10:31:22 PM
No chance, we are not in a position of need. So basically unless the offer is in excess of £50 mill the answer is no. Lets not forget we would need to replace him and who is there. So on second thoughts the answer is no irrespective of how much they offer.
We aren't in dier financial need is true in the extremely short-term that is this season only and only if we don't need more than one player plus Hector in the window,
Even this season, if we need to add a high quality goalkeeper and right back in the winter transfer window, then we have financial problems raising that kind of money within FFP.
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.
And lastly from May 2021, we will be in dier dier dier financial position (in terms of being able to financial support a squad likely to get promoted) unless we make some big sales that boasts our income, because we have no parchuate payments and the Khans cannot invest more than £250,000 per week.
No way would we sell him circa for what we paid given the length of contract. We 'may' have to sell to re-build due to FFP if we fail to go up, but that's likely to be at a fee north of £40m - no chance this story anything but lazy speculation.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 13, 2019, 06:20:52 AM
Quote from: Bill2 on November 12, 2019, 10:31:22 PM
No chance, we are not in a position of need. So basically unless the offer is in excess of £50 mill the answer is no. Lets not forget we would need to replace him and who is there. So on second thoughts the answer is no irrespective of how much they offer.
We aren't in dier financial need is true in the extremely short-term that is this season only and only if we don't need more than one player plus Hector in the window,
Even this season, if we need to add a high quality goalkeeper and right back in the winter transfer window, then we have financial problems raising that kind of money within FFP.
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.
And lastly from May 2021, we will be in dier dier dier financial position (in terms of being able to financial support a squad likely to get promoted) unless we make some big sales that boasts our income, because we have no parchuate payments and the Khans cannot invest more than £250,000 per week.
Sure. But it is very unlikely that Mitro's value would decrease in the short or medium term given the length of his contract. As such, we would not need or want to sell him in January since this is reasonably our best chance of promotion. There is not a right back or goalkeeper that you could persuade to come to the Championship that would offset the negative impact of losing Mitro. As such, the money would have to be absolutely over the top stupid for FFC to even remotely consider selling him.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 13, 2019, 06:20:52 AM
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.
Don't necessarily disagree with the general thrust of your post but the book value of these two at the end of this season will be what, perbsps £10m and £15m? That's also assuming MLM will have a book value of £2-3m. I don't see us selling them at a "massive loss" against those figures. We may even make a "massive profit" on Anguissa.
Quote from: Statto on November 13, 2019, 08:12:12 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 13, 2019, 06:20:52 AM
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.
Don't necessarily disagree with the general thrust of your post but the book value of these two at the end of this season will be what, perbsps £10m and £15m? That's also assuming MLM will have a book value of £2-3m. I don't see us selling them at a "massive loss" against those figures. We may even make a "massive profit" on Anguissa.
Agree - Seri is still rated in France and can see us at least recouping £10m - Anguissa is young & doing well so we should get our money back there.
I'm not worried at all, why would he go there? They're not a big club. If he leaves it will be for a top 7 Premier League side. I would hope to get at least £40 million for him given his age and performances.
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on November 13, 2019, 08:14:47 AM
Quote from: Statto on November 13, 2019, 08:12:12 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 13, 2019, 06:20:52 AM
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.
Don't necessarily disagree with the general thrust of your post but the book value of these two at the end of this season will be what, perbsps £10m and £15m? That's also assuming MLM will have a book value of £2-3m. I don't see us selling them at a "massive loss" against those figures. We may even make a "massive profit" on Anguissa.
Agree - Seri is still rated in France and can see us at least recouping £10m - Anguissa is young & doing well so we should get our money back there.
You are both correct, we really need Anguissa to keep playing at his current level, because a big sale price for Anguissa and decent sales Fabri/Seri would put us in a financial position to keep this squad with reinforcements for one more season.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 14, 2019, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on November 13, 2019, 08:14:47 AM
Quote from: Statto on November 13, 2019, 08:12:12 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 13, 2019, 06:20:52 AM
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.
Don't necessarily disagree with the general thrust of your post but the book value of these two at the end of this season will be what, perbsps £10m and £15m? That's also assuming MLM will have a book value of £2-3m. I don't see us selling them at a "massive loss" against those figures. We may even make a "massive profit" on Anguissa.
Agree - Seri is still rated in France and can see us at least recouping £10m - Anguissa is young & doing well so we should get our money back there.
You are both correct, we really need Anguissa to keep playing at his current level, because a big sale price for Anguissa and decent sales Fabri/Seri would put us in a financial position to keep this squad with reinforcements for one more season.
Just to reiterate, I'm not saying that means we'll be able to keep the squad together. To keep Reed, Reid, Arter, Knockaert and Cavaleiro will probably cost £60m or require their respective clubs to agree to rollover their loans, plus, whilst I can't see Mitro leaving this January, I can see his and other heads (Cairney, Mawson and Bryan) being turned by PL clubs in the summer.
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2019, 09:08:36 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 14, 2019, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on November 13, 2019, 08:14:47 AM
Quote from: Statto on November 13, 2019, 08:12:12 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 13, 2019, 06:20:52 AM
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.
Don't necessarily disagree with the general thrust of your post but the book value of these two at the end of this season will be what, perbsps £10m and £15m? That's also assuming MLM will have a book value of £2-3m. I don't see us selling them at a "massive loss" against those figures. We may even make a "massive profit" on Anguissa.
Agree - Seri is still rated in France and can see us at least recouping £10m - Anguissa is young & doing well so we should get our money back there.
You are both correct, we really need Anguissa to keep playing at his current level, because a big sale price for Anguissa and decent sales Fabri/Seri would put us in a financial position to keep this squad with reinforcements for one more season.
Just to reiterate, I'm not saying that means we'll be able to keep the squad together. To keep Reed, Reid, Arter, Knockaert and Cavaleiro will probably cost £60m or require their respective clubs to agree to rollover their loans, plus, whilst I can't see Mitro leaving this January, I can see his and other heads (Cairney, Mawson and Bryan) being turned by PL clubs in the summer.
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure, Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 14, 2019, 09:40:33 AM
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure, Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.
I knew this sort of comment would follow from someone. Personally I think there's a good chance of one of the shrewder clubs looking at Mawson's pre-FFC performances, relative youth (he's probably still 3-4 years off peaking) and raw attributes, and realising that with decent coaching in a decent team, he could easily be as good as Harry Maguire. I know there are plenty of clubs that just throw money at the latest form player but some are more discerning and intelligent. As noted by another poster on another thread, in recent years, defenders' performances in a Fulham shirt have borne no correlation with their ability.
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2019, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 14, 2019, 09:40:33 AM
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure, Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.
I knew this sort of comment would follow from someone. Personally I think there's a good chance of one of the shrewder clubs looking at Mawson's pre-FFC performances, relative youth (he's probably still 3-4 years off peaking) and raw attributes, and realising that with decent coaching in a decent team, he could easily be as good as Harry Maguire. I know there are plenty of clubs that just throw money at the latest form player but some are more discerning and intelligent. As noted by another poster on another thread, in recent years, defenders' performances in a Fulham shirt have borne no correlation with their ability.
My initial reaction to Mawson's performance against Hull was he played poorly, but the more i watch those three goals the more other players i hold responsible (particularly Ream and Reed). The thing about Mawson is he still to be providing some kind of defence, where as other players seem to covering space that is not attacked and not likely to be attacked.
The DOFs at other clubs would pay more for Mawson than any other defender in the championship, that's cause they know a defender that can defend and pass the ball is very valuable.
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2019, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 14, 2019, 09:40:33 AM
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure, Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.
I knew this sort of comment would follow from someone. Personally I think there's a good chance of one of the shrewder clubs looking at Mawson's pre-FFC performances, relative youth (he's probably still 3-4 years off peaking) and raw attributes, and realising that with decent coaching in a decent team, he could easily be as good as Harry Maguire. I know there are plenty of clubs that just throw money at the latest form player but some are more discerning and intelligent. As noted by another poster on another thread, in recent years, defenders' performances in a Fulham shirt have borne no correlation with their ability.
I think suggesting Mawson could be as good as Maguire is a bit of a stretch......
Quote from: FFC1987 on November 14, 2019, 10:50:37 AM
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2019, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 14, 2019, 09:40:33 AM
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure, Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.
I knew this sort of comment would follow from someone. Personally I think there's a good chance of one of the shrewder clubs looking at Mawson's pre-FFC performances, relative youth (he's probably still 3-4 years off peaking) and raw attributes, and realising that with decent coaching in a decent team, he could easily be as good as Harry Maguire. I know there are plenty of clubs that just throw money at the latest form player but some are more discerning and intelligent. As noted by another poster on another thread, in recent years, defenders' performances in a Fulham shirt have borne no correlation with their ability.
I think suggesting Mawson could be as good as Maguire is a bit of a stretch......
Well I must admit that statement is 50% based on Mawson being decent and 50% based on Maguire being IMO overrated
They can bog off! :031:
Do not despair, there is more chance of a one legged man winning a bum kicking contest, than them prising Mitro away.
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2019, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 14, 2019, 09:40:33 AM
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure, Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.
I knew this sort of comment would follow from someone. Personally I think there's a good chance of one of the shrewder clubs looking at Mawson's pre-FFC performances, relative youth (he's probably still 3-4 years off peaking) and raw attributes, and realising that with decent coaching in a decent team, he could easily be as good as Harry Maguire. I know there are plenty of clubs that just throw money at the latest form player but some are more discerning and intelligent. As noted by another poster on another thread, in recent years, defenders' performances in a Fulham shirt have borne no correlation with their ability.
He will never be as good as Maguire at being a ball playing centre back. Maguire has been excellent for a long time, even going back to his Sheff Utd days. I saw him against us in the cup.
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2019, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 14, 2019, 09:40:33 AM
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure, Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.
I knew this sort of comment would follow from someone. Personally I think there's a good chance of one of the shrewder clubs looking at Mawson's pre-FFC performances, relative youth (he's probably still 3-4 years off peaking) and raw attributes, and realising that with decent coaching in a decent team, he could easily be as good as Harry Maguire. I know there are plenty of clubs that just throw money at the latest form player but some are more discerning and intelligent. As noted by another poster on another thread, in recent years, defenders' performances in a Fulham shirt have borne no correlation with their ability.
"I knew this kind of comment would come from someone" - kind of condescending, just because someone has the temerity to disagree with your valuation of Mawson, a contradictory view that is based on his performances for Fulham, with more of the supporters I know being like me, disappointed that he has so far not lived up to his reputation at Swansea. We still hope to be pleasantly surprised and see him recover the form and authority that meant he was regarded as a good, or at least reasonable, Premier League centre-half. But his strength must be raw defending as suggesting he is a good ball-playing centre-half is a bit more than a stretch from what I've seen.
And yes, Statto, I know you disagree.
Can I take it the last two posters also feel that Calum Chambers will never be a decent PL defender?
Because "from what I've seen" of him in a Fulham shirt (as a defender) he is woeful
Quote from: bog on November 14, 2019, 01:37:33 PM
They can bog off! :031:
Agree with Bog. They can :031: off!
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2019, 06:50:12 PM
Can I take it the last two posters also feel that Calum Chambers will never be a decent PL defender?
Because "from what I've seen" of him in a Fulham shirt (as a defender) he is woeful
Yes, I know you disagree. Trouble is that Mawson has been with us almost a year and a half, (with injuries, I know) playing in the same position. Chambers had a couple of poor games and then did well, even very well, for us in central midfield. The point I have made is that PL clubs would be wary of Mawson's form, and therefore unlikely to put in much of an offer, if any. I also indicated that we hope his form recovers, which is of course not only desirable, but possible.
Clearly we disagree on how well he has been playing for us, or you think that it is the fault of the rest of the team that he is not looking at his best. Whichever. But disagree we do.
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 16, 2019, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2019, 06:50:12 PM
Can I take it the last two posters also feel that Calum Chambers will never be a decent PL defender?
Because "from what I've seen" of him in a Fulham shirt (as a defender) he is woeful
Yes, I know you disagree. Trouble is that Mawson has been with us almost a year and a half, (with injuries, I know) playing in the same position. Chambers had a couple of poor games and then did well, even very well, for us in central midfield. The point I have made is that PL clubs would be wary of Mawson's form, and therefore unlikely to put in much of an offer, if any. I also indicated that we hope his form recovers, which is of course not only desirable, but possible.
Clearly we disagree on how well he has been playing for us, or you think that it is the fault of the rest of the team that he is not looking at his best. Whichever. But disagree we do.
Considering you've managed to say the word "disagree" 5 times in 2 posts, it's ironic that most of the points you mention aren't the thing we disagree on.
I don't disagree on how well/poorly Mawson's been playing, or to the extent I might, it's not something we've explored, or need to explore, in this thread. The material point is that I admit PL clubs wouldn't be interested him based purely on his recent performances.
Similarly I happen to agree Chambers was half decent in midfield - but I wasn't talking about his ability as a midfielder, was I.
The point we disagree on is whether PL clubs would "be wary of" (your opinion) or prepared to overlook (my opinion) Mawson's recent performances. You're yet to explain or justify your position on that.
Quote from: Statto on November 16, 2019, 01:41:38 PM
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 16, 2019, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2019, 06:50:12 PM
Can I take it the last two posters also feel that Calum Chambers will never be a decent PL defender?
Because "from what I've seen" of him in a Fulham shirt (as a defender) he is woeful
Yes, I know you disagree. Trouble is that Mawson has been with us almost a year and a half, (with injuries, I know) playing in the same position. Chambers had a couple of poor games and then did well, even very well, for us in central midfield. The point I have made is that PL clubs would be wary of Mawson's form, and therefore unlikely to put in much of an offer, if any. I also indicated that we hope his form recovers, which is of course not only desirable, but possible.
Clearly we disagree on how well he has been playing for us, or you think that it is the fault of the rest of the team that he is not looking at his best. Whichever. But disagree we do.
Considering you've managed to say the word "disagree" 5 times in 2 posts, it's ironic that most of the points you mention aren't the thing we disagree on.
I don't disagree on how well/poorly Mawson's been playing, or to the extent I might, it's not something we've explored, or need to explore, in this thread. The material point is that I admit PL clubs wouldn't be interested him based purely on his recent performances.
Similarly I happen to agree Chambers was half decent in midfield - but I wasn't talking about his ability as a midfielder, was I.
The point we disagree on is whether PL clubs would "be wary of" (your opinion) or prepared to overlook (my opinion) Mawson's recent performances. You're yet to explain or justify your position on that.
An extended debate .... I don't think that PL clubs would overlook the last year and a half as a temporary loss of form and therefore would not have him high on their list of transfer targets, if on the list at all. I trust that explains and justifies my view.
A point I have been making is that we don't have to share views and when it is clear that we don't, then it is best to move on as no argument will convince the other. Good if we can do that without being condescending, something I did object to.
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 16, 2019, 07:07:53 PM
I don't think that PL clubs would overlook the last year and a half as a temporary loss of form and therefore would not have him high on their list of transfer targets, if on the list at all. I trust that explains and justifies my view.
No, it just repeats it.
An explanation of your point might be, for example, some insight into clubs' typical decision-making process on transfer targets. I'm not an insider or expert, so I'm open-minded as always, but still don't feel you've made any attempt to expand on your first post.
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 16, 2019, 07:07:53 PM
we don't have to share views and when it is clear that we don't, then it is best to move on as no argument will convince the other.
That conclusion seems premature to me (see above) but you've seemed resigned to it from the start, so fine.
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 16, 2019, 07:07:53 PM
Good if we can do that without being condescending, something I did object to.
In fairness I think that was more a consequence of your own sensitivities than anything I said, but again, fine.
Quote from: Statto on November 16, 2019, 07:23:21 PM
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 16, 2019, 07:07:53 PM
I don't think that PL clubs would overlook the last year and a half as a temporary loss of form and therefore would not have him high on their list of transfer targets, if on the list at all. I trust that explains and justifies my view.
No, it just repeats it.
An explanation of your point might be, for example, some insight into clubs' typical decision-making process on transfer targets. I'm not an insider or expert, so I'm open-minded as always, but still don't feel you've made any attempt to expand on your first post.
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 16, 2019, 07:07:53 PM
we don't have to share views and when it is clear that we don't, then it is best to move on as no argument will convince the other.
That conclusion seems premature to me (see above) but you've seemed resigned to it from the start, so fine.
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 16, 2019, 07:07:53 PM
Good if we can do that without being condescending, something I did object to.
In fairness I think that was more a consequence of your own sensitivities than anything I said, but again, fine.
You don't think your original comment was condescending? You don't understand what is a clear statement? I give up. You win. Congratulations.
I mean, each to their own I suppose. I just don't see Mawson, ever being at the level Maguire is. There's really no evidence to suggest he will be but ample that he isn't. Comparing CV's for instance would indicate one plays for clubs higher up the EPL table and one has more of a record being relegated. I say this as a fan of Mawson.
Quote from: FFC1987 on November 17, 2019, 08:53:20 PM
I mean, each to their own I suppose. I just don't see Mawson, ever being at the level Maguire is. There's really no evidence to suggest he will be but ample that he isn't. Comparing CV's for instance would indicate one plays for clubs higher up the EPL table and one has more of a record being relegated. I say this as a fan of Mawson.
Well there are plenty on here who think Ryan Sessegnon will be the next Gareth Bale despite the stark differences between their CVs at the same age.
In any case, I've frankly no idea where Mawson's, Maguire's and Sessegon's respective careers will go but I think that a moot point.
To attract the interest of PL clubs in the summer, Mawson doesn't need to be as good as Maguire. He just needs to look as if, with a little confidence and coaching, he could be as good as James Tarkowski or Dan Burn.
Quote from: Statto on November 17, 2019, 09:10:41 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on November 17, 2019, 08:53:20 PM
I mean, each to their own I suppose. I just don't see Mawson, ever being at the level Maguire is. There's really no evidence to suggest he will be but ample that he isn't. Comparing CV's for instance would indicate one plays for clubs higher up the EPL table and one has more of a record being relegated. I say this as a fan of Mawson.
Well there are plenty on here who think Ryan Sessegnon will be the next Gareth Bale despite the stark differences between their CVs at the same age.
In any case, I've frankly no idea where Mawson's, Maguire's and Sessegon's respective careers will go but I think that a moot point.
To attract the interest of PL clubs in the summer, Mawson doesn't need to be as good as Maguire. He just needs to look as if, with a little confidence and coaching, he could be as good as James Tarkowski or Dan Burn.
Mawson's record for Swansea in the premier league is good and Fulham its not so bad. In Fulham's first 30 games last season, we were better with him (14 points in 14 games) than without him (3 points vs Brighton (H) in 16 games). Some Premier League team maybe looking for a defender that can improve them by 0.81 points per game.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 18, 2019, 06:32:08 AM
Mawson's record for Swansea in the premier league is good and Fulham its not so bad. In Fulham's first 30 games last season, we were better with him (14 points in 14 games) than without him (3 points vs Brighton (H) in 16 games). Some Premier League team maybe looking for a defender that can improve them by 0.81 points per game.
Meanwhile, and to get back on topic, Mitro's form does not require speculative differences in statistical noise or nonsensical comparisons with others to capture his essence. He lets his football do the talking.
Quote from: Statto on November 17, 2019, 09:10:41 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on November 17, 2019, 08:53:20 PM
I mean, each to their own I suppose. I just don't see Mawson, ever being at the level Maguire is. There's really no evidence to suggest he will be but ample that he isn't. Comparing CV's for instance would indicate one plays for clubs higher up the EPL table and one has more of a record being relegated. I say this as a fan of Mawson.
Well there are plenty on here who think Ryan Sessegnon will be the next Gareth Bale despite the stark differences between their CVs at the same age.
In any case, I've frankly no idea where Mawson's, Maguire's and Sessegon's respective careers will go but I think that a moot point.
To attract the interest of PL clubs in the summer, Mawson doesn't need to be as good as Maguire. He just needs to look as if, with a little confidence and coaching, he could be as good as James Tarkowski or Dan Burn.
I do agree....I was just replying to the Maguire comparison.
Lets compare AM & HM on a value and App level
AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/z54SDRV/am1.jpg)[/url]
HM
(https://i.ibb.co/HqBv378/HM-1.jpg)[/url]
(https://i.ibb.co/7bZcvt7/HM1.jpg)[/url]
Maguire was bobbing along as a plyer notr really much on anyones radar and not even Englands and then bang he is where he is.
Mawson could do the same, it doesnt take much to suddenly be the next best thing.
To be honest, I always liked Maguire, much like Tarkowski but that's just me. Mawson I like, and its not out of the realm of possibility that he can hugely improve, but I was mainly suggesting, hes got a long way to go before we start comparing him to the heights of Maguire.
Quote from: FFC1987 on November 18, 2019, 11:22:30 AM
To be honest, I always liked Maguire, much like Tarkowski but that's just me. Mawson I like, and its not out of the realm of possibility that he can hugely improve, but I was mainly suggesting, hes got a long way to go before we start comparing him to the heights of Maguire.
Maguire comparison was a bit of a throwaway comment tbh... just a way of saying other clubs may see more in Mawson than us
Most on here will judge him against the big price tag, look at how generally poor we were last season and decide he's just a rubbish player
The Rational Fan's and MJG's posts above show how closer analysis could lead to a different view
Quote from: Statto on November 18, 2019, 11:58:49 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on November 18, 2019, 11:22:30 AM
To be honest, I always liked Maguire, much like Tarkowski but that's just me. Mawson I like, and its not out of the realm of possibility that he can hugely improve, but I was mainly suggesting, hes got a long way to go before we start comparing him to the heights of Maguire.
Maguire comparison was a bit of a throwaway comment tbh... just a way of saying other clubs may see more in Mawson than us
Most on here will judge him against the big price tag, look at how generally poor we were last season and decide he's just a rubbish player
The Rational Fan's and MJG's posts above show how closer analysis could lead to a different view
Seems fair. If I was to guess, I'd say I don't think Mawson will climb as high but who knows. Players have bucked the trends to elevate/deviate for decades so nothings certain. I just hope he carries on with us and elevates both himself and us to EPL. I still haven't quite seem the form he had at Swansea but hes clearly better than what others have said that you mention, ie overpriced rubbish. That just seems harsh to me.
Darren Bent now touting Mitro around to Villa now.
Cannot fathom why Mitrovic would go to a team that is famous for making pizza and nothing else....
