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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: YankeeJim on November 16, 2019, 12:48:23 AM

Title: set pieces
Post by: YankeeJim on November 16, 2019, 12:48:23 AM
Tim Ream, yeh, that Tim Ream, just took a dead ball and curled it straight to the head of his fellow center half to make it 3 nil. Maybe Knockers should give the ball up and let Tim be our new secret weapon on the attack. LOL
Title: Re: set pieces
Post by: YankeeJim on November 16, 2019, 01:04:09 AM
And then, something I've never seen. US takes a shot which bouncers around and than controlled by a Canadian at the corner of the net. He kicks the ball up to his head and than heads it to the keeper which according to the referee and the talking heads is illegal. The ref awards an indirect free kick to the US at the corner of the six yard box. Canada puts 11 men behind the ball. It looked like an under seven kids match. The ensuing kick careens about hitting several players before being cleared
Don't tell my fellow yanks, but football in the Americas is such a joke.
Title: Re: set pieces
Post by: Matt10 on November 16, 2019, 02:25:42 AM
I did not know about that trickery rule either, but in fact, it's true: http://asktheref.com/Soccer%20Rules/Question/28966/

Think it was a good match overall. Ream looked quite good on the left side. Playing the US out of trouble several times. One of my favorite players, Alfredo Morales, got some minutes in as well. Quite an underrated CDM that would be a great signing for us.
Title: Re: set pieces
Post by: love4ffc on November 16, 2019, 09:57:17 AM
Quote from: YankeeJim on November 16, 2019, 01:04:09 AM
And then, something I've never seen. US takes a shot which bouncers around and than controlled by a Canadian at the corner of the net. He kicks the ball up to his head and than heads it to the keeper which according to the referee and the talking heads is illegal. The ref awards an indirect free kick to the US at the corner of the six yard box. Canada puts 11 men behind the ball. It looked like an under seven kids match. The ensuing kick careens about hitting several players before being cleared
Don't tell my fellow yanks, but football in the Americas is such a joke.

Where are the rules experts to explain this.  Sorry, but if I juggle the ball to my head and then head it back to the keeper, that seems legal. 
Title: Re: set pieces
Post by: BigbadBillyMcKinley on November 16, 2019, 12:45:48 PM
I always thought heading the ball to a keeper was ok.

Bloody yanks, changing the rules and/or names of games for their own gains.
Title: Re: set pieces
Post by: Statto on November 16, 2019, 12:58:56 PM
The IFAB rules say it's "unsporting behaviour" if a player "uses a deliberate trick to pass the ball (including from a free kick) to the goalkeeper with the head, chest, knee etc. to circumvent the Law"

The IFAB is the international rule-making body, comprising the 4 British FAs (who have 1 vote each on decisions) and FIFA (who have 4 votes)

Happy to admit I never knew any of the foregoing before Googling it just now!
Title: Re: set pieces
Post by: Matt10 on November 16, 2019, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 16, 2019, 12:58:56 PM
The IFAB rules say it's "unsporting behaviour" if a player "uses a deliberate trick to pass the ball (including from a free kick) to the goalkeeper with the head, chest, knee etc. to circumvent the Law"

The IFAB is the international rule-making body, comprising the 4 British FAs (who have 1 vote each on decisions) and FIFA (who have 4 votes)

Happy to admit I never knew any of the foregoing before Googling it just now!

I wonder if I should know this considering I was a high school referee for a number of years! In my defense, that was about 20 years ago...
Title: Re: set pieces
Post by: Asotosyios on November 16, 2019, 04:33:43 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on November 16, 2019, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 16, 2019, 12:58:56 PM
The IFAB rules say it's "unsporting behaviour" if a player "uses a deliberate trick to pass the ball (including from a free kick) to the goalkeeper with the head, chest, knee etc. to circumvent the Law"

The IFAB is the international rule-making body, comprising the 4 British FAs (who have 1 vote each on decisions) and FIFA (who have 4 votes)

Happy to admit I never knew any of the foregoing before Googling it just now!

I wonder if I should know this considering I was a high school referee for a number of years! In my defense, that was about 20 years ago...

We will let you off Matt  :dft012:

Were the goalkeepers allowed to catch the ball after a back pass 20 years ago? I can't remember when the rule changed.
Title: Re: set pieces
Post by: filham on November 16, 2019, 04:46:17 PM
Those sort of rules would have taken half of Marsh and Best's game away from them.
Title: Re: set pieces
Post by: love4ffc on November 16, 2019, 06:08:58 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on November 16, 2019, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 16, 2019, 12:58:56 PM
The IFAB rules say it's "unsporting behaviour" if a player "uses a deliberate trick to pass the ball (including from a free kick) to the goalkeeper with the head, chest, knee etc. to circumvent the Law"

The IFAB is the international rule-making body, comprising the 4 British FAs (who have 1 vote each on decisions) and FIFA (who have 4 votes)

Happy to admit I never knew any of the foregoing before Googling it just now!

I wonder if I should know this considering I was a high school referee for a number of years! In my defense, that was about 20 years ago...
I took up to R8 level with my son and never heard it mentioned.  Seems Petty. 
Title: Re: set pieces
Post by: BarryP on November 17, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
If you think about it the pass originated from the player's foot and the ball never left his possession. If nothing else it violates the spirit of the rule.