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Title: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: twang on February 13, 2020, 03:13:47 PM
Scott Parker revealed on Thursday the upsetting news that Terence Kongolo will not play again this season.

The on-loan defender picked up an injury moments after coming off the bench at Blackburn Rovers last week, something he will not recover from in time to feature again in 2019/20.

"Obviously we're absolutely devastated for Terence," Parker told FFCtv. "He's come in, a player which we liked and one we thought could bring something to the squad and to the team.

"I think I've said on numerous occasions that he probably gives us a different attribute to what we have in defence.

"It's just such a shame for him that in his second game he comes on and in his first action he damages his foot.

"He's going to be out for the remainder of the season, and he'll be missed. It's gutting."

That was the only real update on the medical front, although Parker is optimistic Anthony Knockaert could be back in contention for our meeting with Barnsley at Craven Cottage on Saturday.

"Harrison Reed is still in the treatment room at this present moment in time," he said. "Anthony Knockaert, who fell ill the day before the game against Millwall, I'm hoping will recover and be around it for the weekend. Everything else, is what it is."
Title: KONGOLO OUT FOR THE SEASON !
Post by: Fernhurst on February 13, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Rumour on instagram ...... can anyone confirm?

If he requires complicated surgery and extensive rehab, do Huddersfield pick up the bills??
Title: Re: KONGOLO OUT FOR THE SEASON !
Post by: Milo on February 13, 2020, 03:15:56 PM
Confirmed on official Instagram.

He had a good innings.

Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: fulhamfan on February 13, 2020, 03:24:07 PM
i would assume loan is terminated and he returns to parent club
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Milo on February 13, 2020, 03:26:21 PM
Instagram seemed to make out it's related to a Euston train incident although maybe a joke..?
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: ffcthereligion on February 13, 2020, 03:34:01 PM
Tony Khan strikes again! Times like this you can only laugh.

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Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: west kowloon white on February 13, 2020, 03:58:32 PM
Hardly Tony Khan's fault- not sure that was a dig or joke.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Statto on February 13, 2020, 04:21:29 PM
Quote from: fulhamross on February 13, 2020, 03:24:07 PM
i would assume loan is terminated and he returns to parent club

No idea what the convention is but it would be galling if we cannot terminate and have to keep paying his wages, and any loan fee
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: ALG01 on February 13, 2020, 04:22:59 PM
i have not got this as TK's fault. Sometimes stuff happens.
Mawson was cleary an error but not this.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on February 13, 2020, 04:56:07 PM
Firstly either we or Huddersfield are probably covered by insurance but I would have thought that he has already returned to Huddersfield for treatment.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Sting of the North on February 13, 2020, 05:39:48 PM
Quote from: gang on February 13, 2020, 05:28:27 PM
I will bet the injured player normally returns to his parent club, but not with us we will be lumbered with his salary and treatment. Huddersfield manager was delighted to see him leave.

Do you think that football clubs don't have insurance for their valuable assets? And do you also believe that we structure our loan deals completely different from most clubs?
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Gezza on February 13, 2020, 05:48:56 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on February 13, 2020, 03:34:01 PM
Tony Khan strikes again! Times like this you can only laugh.

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Ridiculous post. How can you blame Tony Khan.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Statto on February 13, 2020, 05:55:10 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 13, 2020, 05:39:48 PM
Quote from: gang on February 13, 2020, 05:28:27 PM
I will bet the injured player normally returns to his parent club, but not with us we will be lumbered with his salary and treatment. Huddersfield manager was delighted to see him leave.

Do you think that football clubs don't have insurance for their valuable assets? And do you also believe that we structure our loan deals completely different from most clubs?

I know nothing about the convention in this area. I could well imagine that clubs have insurance that pays out in the event that a player suffers a career-ending injury, but this is just a few months out. Do those suggesting our insurance will cover this, also think, for example, that our insurance covered Kamara's wages (and a portion of the transfer fee we paid for him) when he was out for a few weeks around Christmas?

Similarly, I wouldn't expect us to be able to terminate Kongolo's loan and claim back all or part of the loan fee if he suffered a more minor, very short-term injury, or a suspension. So I wouldn't be surprised if we're left liable for the loan fee and his wages here.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: bobby01 on February 13, 2020, 06:05:45 PM
I just feel sorry for the lad, I bet he thought he could resurrect his career here, and in his little cameo he looked like he could be a decent player.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: @jolslover on February 13, 2020, 07:36:22 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on February 13, 2020, 06:05:45 PM
I just feel sorry for the lad, I bet he thought he could resurrect his career here, and in his little cameo he looked like he could be a decent player.

Agree
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: jarv on February 13, 2020, 07:58:02 PM
All players are covered by insurance. (Including wage I believe). Back in the day, even as a park footballer (half way decent) I bought insurance because the nhs looked at you as a weekend warrior. Their solution was....bandage it, rest for a month and you will be fine. I learnt my lesson when about 21, torn ankle ligaments, missed a whole season and it was never 100% thanks to the nhs non service.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Riversider on February 13, 2020, 08:50:28 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on February 13, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Rumour on instagram ...... can anyone confirm?

If he requires complicated surgery and extensive rehab, do Huddersfield pick up the bills??

He was injured whilst on duty for Fulham, will be shocked if Huddersfield have any financial liability, why would they ?
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Steven Ageroad on February 13, 2020, 09:15:15 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on February 13, 2020, 03:34:01 PM
Tony Khan strikes again! Times like this you can only laugh.

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Another WM, give it a rest.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: gang on February 13, 2020, 09:19:07 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 13, 2020, 05:39:48 PM
Quote from: gang on February 13, 2020, 05:28:27 PM
I will bet the injured player normally returns to his parent club, but not with us we will be lumbered with his salary and treatment. Huddersfield manager was delighted to see him leave.

Do you think that football clubs don't have insurance for their valuable assets? And do you also believe that we structure our loan deals completely different from most clubs?


Yes, clubs have insurance.
Loan deals are for the individual clubs that make them and differ from club to club. We just seem to fall foul.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Steven Ageroad on February 13, 2020, 09:21:55 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on February 13, 2020, 06:05:45 PM
I just feel sorry for the lad, I bet he thought he could resurrect his career here, and in his little cameo he looked like he could be a decent player.

Totally agree with this post.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: filham on February 13, 2020, 10:04:33 PM
Sess., Christie, Hector, Ream, Bryan, LeMarchand. Not a lot of cover in our back four.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Whitestone on February 13, 2020, 10:29:11 PM
Unbelievable that some are more concerned about the finances. A huge disappointment and a big loss to the squad.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: ByTheRiver on February 13, 2020, 11:14:38 PM
Gutted at this news. Gutted for us and our lack of cover, and gutted for the player who was probably hoping to get his career back on track. Automatic promotion hopes taken quite a whack in the last 24 hours.

Still, it's not over until the larger lady sings, so...

Also, I can't imagine Huddersfield will pick up his wages or anything else. A loan is a loan surely. If a player is injured during that loan, surely there's no financial detriment to the owning club or loan cancelled or whatever. No one would ever loan out anyone of any value! Insurance is different of course but, really, I think the financial ins and outs are the least of our worries here.

Balls. Big hairy ones.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Bassey the warrior on February 14, 2020, 07:47:24 AM
Gutted for him and for us. We're worryingly short at the back now. Anyone know when Le Marchand is back?
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 14, 2020, 07:53:29 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on February 14, 2020, 07:47:24 AM
Gutted for him and for us. We're worryingly short at the back now. Anyone know when Le Marchand is back?

Such information is top secret at Fulham, so the easiest way to find out is ask anyone near Motspur Park working for Marcelo Bielsa.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: ffcthereligion on February 14, 2020, 08:25:15 AM
I think my post has been misinterpreted...
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Twig on February 14, 2020, 09:14:21 AM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on February 14, 2020, 08:25:15 AM
I think my post has been misinterpreted...

Lol, just slightly!
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Jim© on February 14, 2020, 09:23:22 AM
I can't easily remember a season in which we've had so many injuries pile up: Mawson and Reed missing the most, Sess, Bryan, TC, Stefan, Mitro, AK, Cav, Knockeart have all missed a good few games. Kongolo out and MLM still injured means our back 4 is short should this bad run of injuries continue.

Feel sorry for Kongolo, going on what my Feyenoord supporting dutch family said, we could have got a very very good player.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: MikeW on February 14, 2020, 01:14:45 PM
BBC reporting Kongolo joined us in August on a season long loan.  Nothing like a bit of research!
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Chrisjo on February 14, 2020, 01:24:34 PM
I agree we have a potential problem with our centre back positions. As we know Kongolo is out for the rest of the season, Mawson is a long term injury and Le Marchand is probably the closest to recovery but still a few weeks away I think. If, God forbid, anything serious happens to either Hector or Ream then with Odoi as the only recognised cover we will be in big trouble especially with seasons run in and some real tricky games.

I was looking at the list of available free transfers and note that Watford have released Sebastian Prodl. He's an Austrian international but has had his own in jury problems in the past. Anyone any thoughts as to whether he might be a reasonable punt as back up.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: RP24 on February 14, 2020, 03:03:50 PM
From what I have seen in the past usually when a player gets injured they go back to their parent club, we have even had players sent back due to this. I think Adebayo was sent back to us at one point for an eye injury (or at least one of our youngsters were).

So usually I'd say once they are injured they go back to the parent club, however on Joe Bryan's Instagram Kongolo is in crutches still in a fulham kit and still at Motspur Park, so maybe were planning on keeping him after the end of the season?
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: RP24 on February 14, 2020, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on February 14, 2020, 03:03:50 PM
From what I have seen in the past usually when a player gets injured they go back to their parent club, we have even had players sent back due to this. I think Adebayo was sent back to us at one point for an eye injury (or at least one of our youngsters were).

So usually I'd say once they are injured they go back to the parent club, however on Joe Bryan's Instagram Kongolo is in crutches still in a fulham kit and still at Motspur Park, so maybe were planning on keeping him after the end of the season?

Might have been Edun actually, anyway the point is that usually when a player is injured I've seen them go back to their parent club
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: Statto on February 14, 2020, 03:18:26 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on February 14, 2020, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on February 14, 2020, 03:03:50 PM
From what I have seen in the past usually when a player gets injured they go back to their parent club, we have even had players sent back due to this. I think Adebayo was sent back to us at one point for an eye injury (or at least one of our youngsters were).

So usually I'd say once they are injured they go back to the parent club, however on Joe Bryan's Instagram Kongolo is in crutches still in a fulham kit and still at Motspur Park, so maybe were planning on keeping him after the end of the season?

Might have been Edun actually, anyway the point is that usually when a player is injured I've seen them go back to their parent club

Does that mean we're not paying his wages and/or the loan fee?
Hector was at CC from august but I'd be astounded if we started paying his wages until we actually signed him in January
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: RP24 on February 14, 2020, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 14, 2020, 03:18:26 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on February 14, 2020, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on February 14, 2020, 03:03:50 PM
From what I have seen in the past usually when a player gets injured they go back to their parent club, we have even had players sent back due to this. I think Adebayo was sent back to us at one point for an eye injury (or at least one of our youngsters were).

So usually I'd say once they are injured they go back to the parent club, however on Joe Bryan's Instagram Kongolo is in crutches still in a fulham kit and still at Motspur Park, so maybe were planning on keeping him after the end of the season?

Unfortunately I really dont know, all i'd say is that usually when a player is injured they go back and to their parent club where one would assume that they pick up the salary again. However with him staying here i'd guess that were still paying his wages
Might have been Edun actually, anyway the point is that usually when a player is injured I've seen them go back to their parent club

Does that mean we're not paying his wages and/or the loan fee?
Hector was at CC from august but I'd be astounded if we started paying his wages until we actually signed him in January
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: filham on February 14, 2020, 05:40:51 PM
I imagine possible partners for Hector until the end of the season are Ream, Odoi, Le Marchand, McDonald. Only 14 matches to go, I wouldn't think Parker is pressing the panic button yet.
Now if Hector was to get injured------------------.
Title: Re: Kongolo injured for the rest of the season
Post by: cottage expat on February 14, 2020, 10:43:04 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on February 13, 2020, 09:21:55 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on February 13, 2020, 06:05:45 PM
I just feel sorry for the lad, I bet he thought he could resurrect his career here, and in his little cameo he looked like he could be a decent player.

Totally agree with this post.




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