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Title: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on February 14, 2020, 02:45:16 AM


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Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: RaySmith on February 14, 2020, 03:04:55 AM
Quote from: OhConnah on February 14, 2020, 02:45:16 AM
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Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: Snibbo on February 14, 2020, 04:26:44 AM
Quote from: OhConnah on February 14, 2020, 02:45:16 AM
Is absurd. Thank you for your time  049:gif

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Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 14, 2020, 05:16:57 AM
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: sunburywhite on February 14, 2020, 07:00:27 AM
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Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: Bassey the warrior on February 14, 2020, 07:50:03 AM
Yeah it's an overreaction, but at the same time I do feel he's not making the most of our forward lime due to being a bit over cautious. I like that we're more solid and resilient now, but against Charlton and Millwall he needed to be a bit braver in the second half.

There's still time to turn it around. I'd like to see more of Stefjo and Kebano and more balls in the box for Mitro.
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: MJG on February 14, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
I wouldnt say its Parker hate, thats too strong a word.
I don't like Parker, find him very hard to warm to and its been like that since he joined as a player.

But that also doesn't mean I don't want us to do well.
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: Sting of the North on February 14, 2020, 08:25:53 AM
I don't know if this thread refers to somewhere else than this board, because I have seen very little Parker hate. Some don't seem to like him, and quite a few have been critical but seen very few totally over the top posts. Much more 'hate' towards many players, and even then it is usually just a few that can't seem to take anything in moderation.

Being critical, or even disliking someone or something is not at all the same as hate.

But maybe the OP refers to twitter or something, which is quite often littered with hateful and moronic garbage.
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: toshes mate on February 14, 2020, 08:52:54 AM
Etymology would suggest a thread entitled "Re:The Parker Love" would be equally worthy of the words 'Is absurd.' in the OP ...   

Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: Twig on February 14, 2020, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 14, 2020, 08:25:53 AM
I don't know if this thread refers to somewhere else than this board, because I have seen very little Parker hate. Some don't seem to like him, and quite a few have been critical but seen very few totally over the top posts. Much more 'hate' towards many players, and even then it is usually just a few that can't seem to take anything in moderation.

Being critical, or even disliking someone or something is not at all the same as hate.

But maybe the OP refers to twitter or something, which is quite often littered with hateful and moronic garbage.

Sting, hate is of course too strong a word and I agree that I haven't seen anything resembling that.  However there have been some pretty extreme and rather unpleasant views aired, particularly when posters stray into criticising his personal traits.  Only recently posters stated that (and I am relying on memory) "He didn't possess a single brain cell", "lacked even the remotest degree of tactical nous", etc. 

Personally I try not to take too much notice of the more extreme views and inflammatory language that is used by a tiny minority, I assume it is attention seeking.  But it is certainly the case that opinions expressed in this way raise the temperature on both sides of the debate (or any other come to that).
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: ALG01 on February 14, 2020, 10:00:22 AM
I thought parker was as good a choice as anyone else for manager.
he is OK
He iMO is showing his inexperience and I am not sure if he is not being brave enough or whether he is being too brave because some of his team selection and substitutions have really cost us dear.

he has a preferred way of playing and thinks the players can do it... then you have to stick to it, blinkered, and only make minor tweaks as you go along. Clearly suicidal playing out from the back does not mean adopt the long ball game but we do get caught rather too often. ASlso with mitro there seems to be a reluctance for a freedom of movement from the other forwards... he needs to think about that.

Thirs place, level with leeds at this stage is OK and does not merit so many critics to be having a go but IMO, I really think we should have had a greater points total by now and I think his inexperience has held us back. I think he will be our manager next season whatever division we are in and unless we experience a spectacular collapse in the run in, he will deserve the second season.
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: gang on February 14, 2020, 10:38:14 AM
Ironically he was a player I always admired no matter which club he played for, even England; when he was fouled he didn't roll around, he just got up and continued playing.
He is an young inexperienced manager and we should stand behind him. All the top managers had a first club where they learnt and made mistakes.
Scott has his team in 3rd position in a very difficult division, let's get behind him.
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 14, 2020, 10:45:07 AM
Quote from: MJG on February 14, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
I wouldnt say its Parker hate, thats too strong a word.
I don't like Parker, find him very hard to warm to and its been like that since he joined as a player.

But that also doesn't mean I don't want us to do well.

:plus one: Exactly this.
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: colinwhite on February 14, 2020, 10:50:01 AM
It all comes down to wanting what is best for the club.I dont hate or love parker but as long he is our manager I will give him the benefit of doubt,rather than picking holes for the sake of it. I think he is growing into the job ,but will need to show his metal in the run in. Its a decent squad he has but not one that is entitled to anything. If we get success it will be down to Parker just as much failure would also be his responsibility. I hope he gets us up because he could be the right man to keep us there.
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: Riversider on February 14, 2020, 10:55:12 AM
Quote from: MJG on February 14, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
I wouldnt say its Parker hate, thats too strong a word.
I don't like Parker, find him very hard to warm to and its been like that since he joined as a player.

But that also doesn't mean I don't want us to do well.


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Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: Statto on February 14, 2020, 12:15:46 PM
On any subject you get the odd abusive comment. The abusive posts about Parker aren't exceptional as far as I can tell. In fact as observed above, he seems to get less abuse than many of our players (eg Christie, Mawson, Ream, Onomah, Cairney and Kamara) and other managers (eg Jol, Magath, Symons and Ranieri).

I quite liked him as a player but otherwise, broadly agree with MJG.

There's no getting away from the fact that (a) his career has done very well out of this club and (b) this club has generally done poorly when he's been here.

I also still have the intuitive feeling that he's intellectually limited but am keeping an open mind on that.   

 
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: filham on February 14, 2020, 03:35:25 PM
We are joint second in the table on points, how can any true Fulham fan not be right behind Parker.

I can't imagine how anyone against Parker right now would have reacted to Dicks when he was our manager. At that time the worst reaction was the chant of "Dicks Out" made with a smile of humour.
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Friendsoffulham on February 14, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
If members persist in posting discussions aimed at certain member groups, or, saying thinks like 'Some members on here are deluded' then your post will be removed, or edited - period.

Have an opinion, but don't make it personal towards others, or feel the need to jump on here just to start a fight.

'Hate' is a very strong word, and, when it comes to football, there will always be likes, dislikes or opinions towards certain players / coaches, that's football.

If you can't discuss topics in an orderly, adult fashion, then please refrain from doing so, this isn't that type of Forum.
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Sgt Fulham on February 14, 2020, 05:14:21 PM
I think few people genuinely hate Parker or any manager. I didn't even hate Magath, just thought he was a clown and not fit for purpose.

I dont even think I dislike Parker even though I'd rather we never signed him or appointed him manager. He does have some very annoying mannerisms but dont we all. What I dislike is this idea that hes somehow Mr Fulham like Lampard is Mr Chelsea or Gerrard is Mr Liverpool. He was a mediocre player for us and has always been associated with failure at our club. I dont see that changing this year. I just feel fed up because we seem to be stuck with him and that gives me no excitement.
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: Fulham1959 on February 14, 2020, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: gang on February 14, 2020, 10:38:14 AM
Ironically he was a player I always admired no matter which club he played for, even England; when he was fouled he didn't roll around, he just got up and continued playing.
He is a young inexperienced manager and we should stand behind him. All the top managers had a first club where they learnt and made mistakes.
Scott has his team in 3rd position in a very difficult division, let's get behind him.

That is true.  But many 'old and experienced' managers have rubbish seasons (and Parker isn't having one).  Because Parker is young and inexperienced, many people assume that an old and experienced manager would have been a better bet.  The history of football managers will tell you that it ain't that simple.
Title: Re: The Parker Hate
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on February 14, 2020, 06:39:00 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 14, 2020, 10:55:12 AM
Quote from: MJG on February 14, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
I wouldnt say its Parker hate, thats too strong a word.
I don't like Parker, find him very hard to warm to and its been like that since he joined as a player.

But that also doesn't mean I don't want us to do well.


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Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Twig on February 14, 2020, 11:20:43 PM
Just as a matter of interest why do posters state that Parker's time at FFC has always been associated with failure?
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Sting of the North on February 15, 2020, 12:07:05 AM
Quote from: Twig on February 14, 2020, 11:20:43 PM
Just as a matter of interest why do posters state that Parker's time at FFC has always been associated with failure?

Likely because he joined and we then got relegated. Then he stayed for two really bad Championship seasons, and one decent. Then he left, and we got promoted in our only recent season without him. He came back and we got relegated again.

That's probably why.
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Statto on February 15, 2020, 01:14:35 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 15, 2020, 12:07:05 AM
Quote from: Twig on February 14, 2020, 11:20:43 PM
Just as a matter of interest why do posters state that Parker's time at FFC has always been associated with failure?

Likely because he joined and we then got relegated. Then he stayed for two really bad Championship seasons, and one decent. Then he left, and we got promoted in our only recent season without him. He came back and we got relegated again.

That's probably why.

In a nutshell.
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 15, 2020, 01:26:29 AM
Circumstantial and completely floored. Allowing personal feelings to cloud your judgement is ill advised. I hope Scott Parker forces you to eat your words, or rather than wait for that to happen just try and enjoy the ride, nobody said it was going to be without a few potholes on the way, and try and forget your prejudices. 
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Mickeyboro on February 15, 2020, 11:51:21 AM
Parker is indeed a floored genius
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: fulhamben on February 15, 2020, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 14, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
I wouldnt say its Parker hate, thats too strong a word.
I don't like Parker, find him very hard to warm to and its been like that since he joined as a player.

But that also doesn't mean I don't want us to do well.

i hate Parker, with a passion. One of the biggest mistakes we have ever made was signing him as a player that is still haunting us 6 years later.
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Luka on February 15, 2020, 07:05:28 PM
I don't dislike Parker The man it's his brand of football that irritates.
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on February 15, 2020, 07:41:49 PM
He's dull, his football is dull, his tactics too often poor, even when we win we rarely actually play that well or entertain
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Sgt Fulham on February 15, 2020, 07:44:53 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 15, 2020, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 14, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
I wouldnt say its Parker hate, thats too strong a word.
I don't like Parker, find him very hard to warm to and its been like that since he joined as a player.

But that also doesn't mean I don't want us to do well.

i hate Parker, with a passion. One of the biggest mistakes we have ever made was signing him as a player that is still haunting us 6 years later.

He's like a bad smell that won't go away. I do not hate the man, he just annoys me.
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Luka on February 15, 2020, 07:45:23 PM
The dislike is because a sh#t show like we witnessed today has ruined a lot of people's weekend......Again !

It's not the loss, it's the manner of the loss that matters to people.
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: Andy S on February 15, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
That's true we play like a team that has not practiced anything for years. Parker's plan B is to play with three at the back which rarely works in professional football. We play so predictably even bottom placed Barnsley can work out how to beat us. So if they can do it why can't we
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: MikeW on February 15, 2020, 09:03:02 PM
There's no hatred towards Parker from me.  But there is annoyance and, frankly, bafflement at his lack of tactical nous in being unable to adapt to other teams simple but effective methods of preventing our team playing as he wants.  Also his single minded belief that possession football played from just in front of our goalkeeper will enable us to walk this League.  (Quite literally at the pace some of our team play!)

As for his team selection .... very adequately covered elsewhere.
Title: Re: Why The Parker Dislike?
Post by: HV71 on February 15, 2020, 09:13:21 PM
Totally agree with you - I just can't follow the logic or thinking in terms of team selection from one game to the next and some of his substitutions leave me completely nonplussed