Sorry to upset those of you that still think we are going to finish top 2 , because, well let's face it, were just not good enough,
This is a squad that needed something more and January gave us that perfect opportunity, we converted loan signings to permanent, and on January 15th we then signed Terrence Kongolo, leaving us sixteen days to bring in those vital missing ingredients,
If I had posted on here after the Kongolo signing that we wouldn't bring anybody else in over the course of the next sixteen days nobody on here would have believed me,
Transfers can fall through for a multitude of reasons, and we will never know what went wrong over the course of those sixteen days, but that inactivity is ultimately going to prove costly,
My hopes were cruelly raised when we were linked with Jota as he is exactly the type of player that we are lacking when we come up against a stubborn compact defence,
I'm still hoping we can make the play offs but those sixteen days have ensured that this team led by Parker has virtually zero chance of making the top 2,
In years to come we will look back on season 19/20 As a missed golden opportunity.
Ive got a fiver says we will be top 2 ! youve got to lighten up its friday !
I didn't expect any more signings, but it's fairly clear to me something went awry with the window in terms of outs not happening to make space for the potential in - Jota?
I imagine this happens a lot, but not quite getting over the line in time does seem to be becoming a specialty for Fulham.
I don't think that is what will cost us however and I don't think Jota was necessarily needed, not if we could get more out of TC.
What the future holds, none of us can predict. But I do totally agree that once again our leaders inability to bring in one or two more players over the transfer window may prove fatal.
We may get away with it like in 2018 but we have already seen one or two injuries and suspensions have hurt us this season in a way we were very lucky then. I think a couple of more players could have sparked our performances. Whilst we are getting results in recent games our performcnes have been troubling in that we have not been that inspiring.
The owner and his son are playing russian roulette with our season once again, as you say it could end up one the greatest missed opportunities ever.
I think of myself as a pessimistic person and glass half empty guy and then read your posts and feel a whole lot happier about myself.
Quote from: MJG on February 14, 2020, 11:43:08 AM
I think of myself as a pessimistic person and glass half empty guy and then read your posts and feel a whole lot happier about myself.
Glad it wasn't just me that thought this!
Riverside _ You really need to see a therapist before you top yourself over deppression🙄🙄🙄
For heaven's sake, it's not all about promotion and trophies*. (*just as well, in the case of Fulham)
Just enjoy the football, the ups and the downs. It's the journey/destination syndrome. Doctors need a lot of patients and football fans need a lot more patience - a forlorn hope, I know.
Remember only 2 teams out of 24 teams can finish in the top 2, so the odds are against us from the start.
Let's relax and rest, it's going to be an exciting and intriguing 14 matches with ups and downs along the way, anything can happen, and those 14 matches may end up turning into 17 matches, and its nice to be in the mix with a chance. At the very least it's interesting and pure theatre.
At the end of the line, it will be glorious victory for 3 clubs, and heartbreak and disappointment for the rest, and life will go on.
Even in my most darkest and dreaded moments of despair following FFC it would never occur to me to say SP and his team have zero chance of top two unless and until it becomes a mathematical certainty. I still have a hope that SP will see the light very soon and select and have his team playing as it should have done from the very beginning of the season and I don't believe the winter window would have made any difference at all to the outcome. I prefer Lorenz's butterfly effect - if you get the little things right the big things will follow suit.
We are in the mix with 14 matches to go so lets just concentrate on and enjoy the next match and forget any missed opportunity in the last window, nothing can be done about that now. However Parker can motivate the team for the Barnsley game and he has a pretty good squad of players at his disposal.
No I don't think the team is quite good enough for automatic promotion but there is a chance and while that chance is there it is best that we all get behind the team with our full support rather than talk about what may have been.
I want us back in the big time as soon as possible. I just feel that the football we currently play will not get us there. Yes we are 3rd but we have the hardest run in out of the teams around us and apart from the Millwall game, we haven't really clicked this season. Yet ever the optimist, I hope we can turn the screw and secure a top 2 spot!
It's cloudy today. You're probably thrilled.
Promotion...the good news in USA, I can watch every Fulham game in the premier on tv. The bad news, I have a feeling I will be watching them lose almost every week.(again).
Season ticket holders, be careful what you wish for. I envy you all, going to the cottage every home game. 049:gif
I don't think TK has done badly at all, in fact the opposite. We've been unlucky with injuries and the only gripe is not having a decent RB.
If we don't get promoted it's not TK fault at all, it'll be the managers. The squad is perfectly good enough. It certainly isn't PL quality though
Disagree we needed more signings. We needed to be more attacking and more consistent.
Quote from: ALG01 on February 14, 2020, 11:28:00 AM
it could end up one the greatest missed opportunities ever.
Just as your post could end up as one of the greatest examples of hyperbole ever?
Lighten up my friend
3rd in the league :yay:
Sometimes, people post the biggest nonsense and over analyse things.
Regardless of how you think the transfer window went, if you think we've 'no chance' of 2nd, when we're currently level with 2nd on points, then you need to go and have a lie down.
Just to make a point for the more optimistic.
We are in a rather better place than I expected pre season (check my very negative predictions). We got in some good players in summer and that has got us in the mix. we have a team we a magnificent work ethic and they are obviously a very united group. But I do think with a couple of more beteer class players especially two full backs, we could have been properly fulfilling our potential. I did really think TK and his dad would have learned from the lessons of the last few seasons, apparently not.
as a result we are now in a four horse lottery for top two. I do not think SP or the squad are cut out for winning the play offs agaion and to be honest I don't really want to go through that misery again.
Looking at our fixtures I cant see us finishing top 2 anyway. Away to Forrest WBA and Leeds still to come
As you say, we could very well be in a four horse lottery, but nobody is a shoe in, and who is the Dark Horse, as far as Fulham are concerned we are fairly stable, and when we lose we have to get back on the horse, and not close the stable door after the horse has bolted. With 14 to go will a club come up on the rails at the last knockings, and it could go all the way to the wire.
I do not see why the manager should be nagged, because it's just flogging a deceased horse and that will only make you hoarse, as some harsh comments on here remind me of manure, so take my advice and stop walking around with a long face, and carrying a horse shoe will not help either. If you feel we are saddled with what we have, then so be it. Let us hope we are first past the finishing post. At least flag is black & white. The last time I placed money on a horse the wind blew it off.
Best to relax put your nose bag on and chew some hay, as the answer is like trying to find a strand of hay in a stack of needles.
I am chewing over the cud whether to place a monkey or a pony on Fulham getting promoted one way or another, it's not a dead cert, and there are still plenty of fences to jump.
Is it a handicap having high expectations, as the going gets heavy it could turn out to be a steeplechase.
I am off now to close the stable door before this horse has bolted, otherwise we may have to bring in the cavalry.
Riversider, is there anything you like about Fulham? Because if there is, I have never seen you put it out there.
Over the last 10 games we are top of the form table, having taken 21 points. Over the last 5 games we've taken 11 points, with only Bristol City (12) and Preston (13) having taken more. We're not doing too badly.
Hard run in? I don't care. If we are not good enough to take points off the top 6 in the Championship, what chance would we have against the bottom 6 in the Premier League? So, we would / could miss out on promotion...not the end of the world, especially if we are not good enough.
I am focussing my worries on playing Barnsley on Saturday. I don't think it will be at all easy, but am very happy to be proved wrong.
And incidentally, while we have a hard run in, no other team will be relishing playing us either.
Quote from: Milo on February 14, 2020, 01:48:49 PM
Disagree we needed more signings. We needed to be more attacking and more consistent.
This.
I don't even care deeply about the top 2 because Fulham is inconsistent...but are going to be the favorites in any playoff setting because of the players on it's roster.
We'll see if the light comes on.
Anyone complaining about roster moves simply has an agenda imo..
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Quote from: rusty shackleford on February 14, 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Looking at our fixtures I cant see us finishing top 2 anyway. Away to Forrest WBA and Leeds still to come
You'd rather have any of those rosters over Fulhams?
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Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 14, 2020, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on February 14, 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Looking at our fixtures I cant see us finishing top 2 anyway. Away to Forrest WBA and Leeds still to come
You'd rather have any of those rosters over Fulhams?
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Sorry to be ignorant but what is a roster?
Quote from: Fulham1959 on February 14, 2020, 12:02:01 PM
For heaven's sake, it's not all about promotion and trophies
Uhhhh....yes it is.......
Quote from: Peabody on February 14, 2020, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 14, 2020, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on February 14, 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Looking at our fixtures I cant see us finishing top 2 anyway. Away to Forrest WBA and Leeds still to come
You'd rather have any of those rosters over Fulhams?
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Sorry to be ignorant but what is a roster?
Squad old chap, squad.
Quote from: KJS on February 14, 2020, 11:57:28 AM
Riverside _ You really need to see a therapist before you top yourself over deppression🙄🙄🙄
:plus one:
I'm convinced you're a QPR or Brentford supporter, Riversider. All you ever do is whinge about Fulham but our neighbours are really well run and amazing clubs, but both are doing worse than us🤔
Quote from: KJS on February 14, 2020, 11:57:28 AM
Riverside _ You really need to see a therapist before you top yourself over deppression🙄🙄🙄
All due respect Riverside, I would go one step further and fast track you to see a Vet.
Quote from: ALG01 on February 14, 2020, 11:28:00 AM
What the future holds, none of us can predict. But I do totally agree that once again our leaders inability to bring in one or two more players over the transfer window may prove fatal.
We may get away with it like in 2018 but we have already seen one or two injuries and suspensions have hurt us this season in a way we were very lucky then. I think a couple of more players could have sparked our performances. Whilst we are getting results in recent games our performcnes have been troubling in that we have not been that inspiring.
The owner and his son are playing russian roulette with our season once again, as you say it could end up one the greatest missed opportunities ever.
Having a go at The Khans again Graham Leggat that's unusual ! What exactly do you mean by "playing Russian roulette with our season " If you mean they are trying to get promotion without spending money I strongly suggest you tot up what they have spent over the last three years.
Quote from: Riversider on February 14, 2020, 11:19:36 AM
Sorry to upset those of you that still think we are going to finish top 2 , because, well let's face it, were just not good enough,
This is a squad that needed something more and January gave us that perfect opportunity, we converted loan signings to permanent, and on January 15th we then signed Terrence Kongolo, leaving us sixteen days to bring in those vital missing ingredients,
If I had posted on here after the Kongolo signing that we wouldn't bring anybody else in over the course of the next sixteen days nobody on here would have believed me,
Transfers can fall through for a multitude of reasons, and we will never know what went wrong over the course of those sixteen days, but that inactivity is ultimately going to prove costly,
My hopes were cruelly raised when we were linked with Jota as he is exactly the type of player that we are lacking when we come up against a stubborn compact defence,
I'm still hoping we can make the play offs but those sixteen days have ensured that this team led by Parker has virtually zero chance of making the top 2,
In years to come we will look back on season 19/20 As a missed golden opportunity.
This is true in the same sense that we had zero chance of avoiding relegation during the Great Escape season yet what a torturously, wonderful ride it was all the way to the final whistle.
Ever the optimist!! Happy Valentine's
Quote from: rusty shackleford on February 14, 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Looking at our fixtures I cant see us finishing top 2 anyway. Away to Forrest WBA and Leeds still to come
So we have the chance to beat them. 3 six pointers. Yes please!
Quote from: Peabody on February 14, 2020, 03:29:19 PM
Riversider, is there anything you like about Fulham? Because if there is, I have never seen you put it out there.
Agree
Well said!
Dear god
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 14, 2020, 02:56:40 PM
As you say, we could very well be in a four horse lottery, but nobody is a shoe in, and who is the Dark Horse, as far as Fulham are concerned we are fairly stable, and when we lose we have to get back on the horse, and not close the stable door after the horse has bolted. With 14 to go will a club come up on the rails at the last knockings, and it could go all the way to the wire.
I do not see why the manager should be nagged, because it's just flogging a deceased horse and that will only make you hoarse, as some harsh comments on here remind me of manure, so take my advice and stop walking around with a long face, and carrying a horse shoe will not help either. If you feel we are saddled with what we have, then so be it. Let us hope we are first past the finishing post. At least flag is black & white. The last time I placed money on a horse the wind blew it off.
Best to relax put your nose bag on and chew some hay, as the answer is like trying to find a strand of hay in a stack of needles.
I am chewing over the cud whether to place a monkey or a pony on Fulham getting promoted one way or another, it's not a dead cert, and there are still plenty of fences to jump.
Is it a handicap having high expectations, as the going gets heavy it could turn out to be a steeplechase.
I am off now to close the stable door before this horse has bolted, otherwise we may have to bring in the cavalry.
That's right. Whip the neigh sayers into shape.
Riversider is always rather downbeat and it comes over as vert negative but I don't think it is necessarily intended that way.
Quote from: Twig on February 14, 2020, 11:05:26 PM
Riversider is always rather downbeat and it comes over as vert negative but I don't think it is necessarily intended that way.
On reflection you are probably right.
Based on current form, we are weak in four positions CM, AM, RW and LW. We have three players in those positions that have made the PFA Team of the Year "Knockaert, Cairney and Reid" and for the remaining one place we have Cav. We have the players but we need to improve form, teamwork and drive then we will get the results of the last month against better teams. I disagree with those that think we are doing fine, but also disagree that we don't have the players.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 14, 2020, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on February 14, 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Looking at our fixtures I cant see us finishing top 2 anyway. Away to Forrest WBA and Leeds still to come
You'd rather have any of those rosters over Fulhams?
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Having a good squad is only half of the equation
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 14, 2020, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on February 14, 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Looking at our fixtures I cant see us finishing top 2 anyway. Away to Forrest WBA and Leeds still to come
You'd rather have any of those rosters over Fulhams?
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I thought a roster was a work shift pattern eg. Hello mate, would you swap my 1000 start for your 0700 tomorrow? I need to leave work early..
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Roster is what you're hours are e.g rostered hours 35 a week
The Work Pattern is what makes up those hrs eg 7 hrs a day mon to fri
Quote from: ALG01 on February 14, 2020, 11:28:00 AM
What the future holds, none of us can predict. But I do totally agree that once again our leaders inability to bring in one or two more players over the transfer window may prove fatal.
We may get away with it like in 2018 but we have already seen one or two injuries and suspensions have hurt us this season in a way we were very lucky then. I think a couple of more players could have sparked our performances. Whilst we are getting results in recent games our performcnes have been troubling in that we have not been that inspiring.
The owner and his son are playing russian roulette with our season once again, as you say it could end up one the greatest missed opportunities ever.
Can you name a player that would have been an upgrade on what we currently have that you know were available.
It's all well and good going on about lack signings, but tell us what you would have done.
Quote from: colinwhite on February 14, 2020, 11:23:57 AM
Ive got a fiver says we will be top 2 ! youve got to lighten up its friday !
Will accept cash or PayPal not fussed which 😁
Quote from: MJG on February 14, 2020, 11:43:08 AM
I think of myself as a pessimistic person and glass half empty guy and then read your posts and feel a whole lot happier about myself.
I would personally say my posts on here are quite mild when compared to your tweets today , at least I've only got one face and not two, why don't you tell everybody that hasn't read them today what your views are on Parker and this season in general, off you go.
imo, I can't say I agree with us needing new players in January (after Hector).
We have enough quality to win this league already.
What we need is a manager who knows how to use them effectively.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on February 15, 2020, 06:44:30 PM
imo, I can't say I agree with us needing new players in January (after Hector).
We have enough quality to win this league already.
What we need is a manager who knows how to use them effectively.
+1
We are gonna win the championship. 20/1 on offer today, stick a few quid on it and enjoy the summer.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 15, 2020, 07:28:07 AM
Based on current form, we are weak in four positions CM, AM, RW and LW. We have three players in those positions that have made the PFA Team of the Year "Knockaert, Cairney and Reid" and for the remaining one place we have Cav. We have the players but we need to improve form, teamwork and drive then we will get the results of the last month against better teams. I disagree with those that think we are doing fine, but also disagree that we don't have the players.
You hit the nail on the head there with "We have the players but we need to improve form, teamwork and drive" which is almost the definition of the manager/head coaches role. So...
