How are people coping with this? I've been at home for a week & seriously need to do some exercise & have visited the drinks cabinet too frequently. On the plus side, I must've watched the first three series of Minder on ITV4. Probably need to invest in a padlock for the fridge as lunch seems to start anytime after 10am.
Quote from: SP on March 19, 2020, 09:44:39 PM
How are people coping with this? I've been at home for a week & seriously need to do some exercise & have visited the drinks cabinet too frequently. On the plus side, I must've watched the first three series of Minder on ITV4. Probably need to invest in a padlock for the fridge as lunch seems to start anytime after 10am.
Bring luchtime forward it will make the day end sooner and the next day arrive sooner! Good luck!
I worked remotely at home for three years (My company was based in Mississippi & California - I'm in Indiana), until I went stir crazy, quit the job and moved to a local company so I could commute each day, and see the sunshine, rain, snow, etc.
I have a regime of starting at 5:30, at 7am I do 1/2 hour treadmill, then breakfast, work until 2 when it's 1/2 hour treadmill again, finish at 3:30 and get dinner started ready for the boss to get home. When I have code running (meaning I'm twiddling thumbs again) I just do an odd job like load/unload dishwasher, clean up a little. The same I did previously.
Good advice there Lman, thanks, some gardening this evening has been a good start. Today, I also smashed my existing lunch record by having cheese on toast for the fifth day running.
Thirty years ago when companies and home computers were becoming widely used the prediction was that a majority of people would soon be working from home. It never really happened but then at the same time we were told paper work would be reduced.
This could change the way we work forever
Quote from: filham on March 20, 2020, 06:09:35 PM
Thirty years ago when companies and home computers were becoming widely used the prediction was that a majority of people would soon be working from home. It never really happened but then at the same time we were told paper work would be reduced.
Funny enough, I vividly recall a slot on 'Tomorrow's World' which predicted that by now, we'd have Leisure People who'd be paid to stay at home. I always fancied that challenge!
2 weeks into WFH . certainly recommend getting someone to hide the biscuits each morning . hopefully with lighter evenings coming the time normally spent on the train will be spent going for a run/walking dogs .
Quote from: filham on March 20, 2020, 06:09:35 PM
Thirty years ago when companies and home computers were becoming widely used the prediction was that a majority of people would soon be working from home. It never really happened but then at the same time we were told paper work would be reduced.
I remember all that jazz. It's funny, but when I moved over here, and started programming as a career, I always believed that would be true, but the biggest obstacle are the bosses who, and I firmly believe this is a case of self-reflection, basically do not trust their employees to effectively and efficiently work from home.
One issue are the civil rights bunch who believe that having nanny software installed on employees PCs is a violation of privacy, although such software would go a very long way to reducing the fears of those bosses that have that trust issue, and allow those that can work from home do so even without the need for a pandemic!
Great thread this. Slightly changing the title to find out what is everyone doing at home to both keep busy and sane?
I find I have had to make some adjustments due to the virus but not as one would think.
A short back story. For the last 2.5 years I have become accustomed to being alone for about 70-80% of my time. My wife has been working for the last 2.5 years out of town about 80% of the time and at least once every 4 months or so she is traveling somewhere for two weeks or more. Both kids are in Uni so, that leaves me alone during the week most of time.
To keep busy, I have loads I do. First, we have a lovely house that I am slowly redecorating. I have started going through each room to freshen it up. Just finished redoing our master closet where I built built-in shelves and drawers. Added pullout hampers and shoe racks for the wife. Also changed the floors out from carpet to Cherry hardwoods. Did that in both our master bedroom and the closet.
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I have a lot of other things that also are keeping me busy but remodeling the house has currently become the number one item on my list.
Lovely job & saved yourself a fortune there.
Normally I play sport 4 days a week, probably taking up best part of half a day each time. Now I'm largely in the garden, preparing the vegetable beds, sowing seeds and creosoting (using what passes for that these days) fences, sheds, gates etc. Thankfully the good weather helps. If/when it turns I've plenty of interior decorating I could do. I have a very long list in my head but, crucially, I'm not writing that list down because if my wife saw it, she'd add to it! Also, I've ordered an exercise bike, but at my age that's partly an investment for my future well being.
Apart from the fact that we all work with Teams, Slack etc so we can continue to meet up on line for our work (IT) and the fact that we migrated most of our systems to the cloud, we are still really busy. Apart from that I spend my time avoiding my kids demands to jump on the trampoline and brew beer (that is a great hobby especially when the pubs are shut!). As I am not drinking for lent I am about 220 pints to the good and have plans for another 360 pints in the coming months - as long as I have enough bottles. Currently the plans are for a Kolsch, a Mild, a dry Stout (Guinness clone), an Oatmeal Stout, a North German Alt Beer, a English Bitter/ESB and a couple of single hop beers using two hops I haven't had before Fusion and Sabro.
Other than that I have mowed the lawn, walked the dogs and am getting the rowing machine and exercise bike out of the garage...I also have a long list of books I haven't read yet. I wont be bored!
Quote from: SP on March 23, 2020, 06:41:39 PM
Lovely job & saved yourself a fortune there.
Thanks mate. Wife went into a store front that only does closets. The quote she got was a small fortune. Problem is, now that I have done this she wants to know when I will be done with doing other rooms :016:
On a different note. With everyone home we find ourselves filling our time with family games. We are playing more billards, spades card game, Uno gard game and old fashion puzzles. It's been pretty good :wine:
I read a piece in the "Times" recently by veteran journalist Max Hastings suggesting that this is the time to write "that book".
Last summer a comment by the actress Lea Seydoux made me ponder and prompted me to do something I had never previously thought of doing, begin to write a novel. I've used the last few weeks to finish it and make a start on a sequel.
For anyone tempted to take Hasting's advice, and be thinking of writing fiction, I would only say that I have found it a truly remarkable experience. The main characters seem to take on a life of their own, as if I was an observer of their lives rather than the author of them. And although inevitably it says something about my psychopathology, I can honestly say that as I read what they do, which of course I am writing, I sometimes find myself laughing and, rather more often, in tears.
Having published it on Wattpad I am not holding my breath waiting for Steven Spielberg to bid for the film rights, but there is some satisfaction in seeing it currently in the 800s from about 3.5k others.
Quote from: Oakeshott on March 23, 2020, 10:27:07 PM
I read a piece in the "Times" recently by veteran journalist Max Hastings suggesting that this is the time to write "that book".
Last summer a comment by the actress Lea Seydoux made me ponder and prompted me to do something I had never previously thought of doing, begin to write a novel. I've used the last few weeks to finish it and make a start on a sequel.
For anyone tempted to take Hasting's advice, and be thinking of writing fiction, I would only say that I have found it a truly remarkable experience. The main characters seem to take on a life of their own, as if I was an observer of their lives rather than the author of them. And although inevitably it says something about my psychopathology, I can honestly say that as I read what they do, which of course I am writing, I sometimes find myself laughing and, rather more often, in tears.
Having published it on Wattpad I am not holding my breath waiting for Steven Spielberg to bid for the film rights, but there is some satisfaction in seeing it currently in the 800s from about 3.5k others.
Any samples for us to read?
Love4FFC
I'll need to think about what I can reasonably post, as will be obvious from the brief introduction:
"This is the first book in a series about two young women who meet, fall in love and marry. Unsurprisingly given their ages and that they start a relationship there is considerable sexual content, including references to when one of the two, Jenny, was sexually abused in her teens, some six years before the story starts.
The story is broadly contemporary and the first book is about how the two young women met, the development of their relationship and their work, successes and adventures over their first year together.
Later books will describe their lives and adventures thereafter."
PS
Thinking about it overnight, the current draft of the opening of the sequel hopefully gives a sense of the possibilities (and, appropriate for this forum, includes no sex). To the extent that I am conscious of "sources" for Jenny, they are a young lady I encountered many years ago when I attended her mental health review tribunal as an observer (she had been sent to a secure psychiatric unit rather than prison for killing her brother, who had raped her) and Becca Gallagher in the television series "Ultimate Force". The Hereford reference links to important elements of the first novel and provides one of the bases for the on-going story.
"Shortly after 7.30 on the first Saturday in September [ ] Jenny Clark woke up, went to the bathroom and then got herself a glass of apple juice. Back in their bedroom where Margaret was still asleep, she sat on the chair, sipping her drink and remembering exactly a year ago when, having woken, she had nearly twelve hours to wait before seeing Margaret at the Bristol. She had been so unhappy, almost sure that the evening would be the end of her hopes of an on-going relationship with Margaret. Yet her fear had proved entirely misplaced. After an awkward hour in the restaurant when neither she nor Margaret felt comfortable to talk, they had walked to Margaret's flat. Then almost immediately they found that the several days they had been apart following their return from the cottage where they had spent August had in no way changed the love each had declared for the other. They had spent that Saturday night together, and had not been apart for a single one since.
Married less than four months after that first night in the flat, they had had a worrying period when Margaret's father, Simon, had been diagnosed with prostate cancer and hadn't been given the all clear until after his operation some weeks later. That apart, things had gone so well. From the time a year ago when Jenny was alone, with no family or friends, she was now married, had been welcomed into Margaret's family and had several really good friends. Margaret would be returning to Grenville High on Monday as the newly appointed head of the English department. Jenny had enjoyed her year there as a teaching assistant, the highlight being helping train one of the girls, Pamela Jackson, to win the national school girls cross country championship. And in the course of Pamela's training all three had developed a link to "Staff", in charge of fitness training and assessment with 22 Regiment, the SAS, and had spent the last few weeks at Hereford.
Being so much in love, with Simon clear of cancer, and her place at university, Jenny knew she should be very happy, but in truth she wasn't. She had been sad when she left Grenville High at the end of June and part of her wished she was returning, with Margaret, on Monday. Leaving Hereford on Friday, though she was scheduled to return next February and July, had upset her much more than she had expected, and part of her wished she had taken up the invitation to work as Staff's assistant. From being in jobs she enjoyed, at the local leisure centre and then at Grenville High, and making a real contribution at Hereford, she now felt adrift. She hoped she would enjoy university when she started in three weeks' time and knew that getting a degree was an important step on the road to becoming a qualified teacher. But in her heart she felt going to lectures, writing essays and taking exams would be dull compared with Grenville High and Hereford."
The great thing about working from home which I learned when I was writing my first computer programs is that you can work flat out and for long hours through a rich period of progress. You may then have to break up a more stagnant period of blockage by regularly going for distracting walks on common land or even in a shopping centre until you get that Eureka Moment and the renewed energy to work flat out for as long as you can. When you have a brain blockage then distract with something that takes your mind off the problem completely. It is guaranteed to find you an answer even if the answer is asking someone else for help.
Quote from: toshes mate on March 24, 2020, 07:36:17 AM
The great thing about working from home which I learned when I was writing my first computer programs is that you can work flat out and for long hours through a rich period of progress. You may then have to break up a more stagnant period of blockage by regularly going for distracting walks on common land or even in a shopping centre until you get that Eureka Moment and the renewed energy to work flat out for as long as you can. When you have a brain blockage then distract with something that takes your mind off the problem completely. It is guaranteed to find you an answer even if the answer is asking someone else for help.
Excellent advice, and I can attest to the veracity of this.
Quote from: Oakeshott on March 23, 2020, 11:35:01 PM
Love4FFC
I'll need to think about what I can reasonably post, as will be obvious from the brief introduction:
"This is the first book in a series about two young women who meet, fall in love and marry. Unsurprisingly given their ages and that they start a relationship there is considerable sexual content, including references to when one of the two, Jenny, was sexually abused in her teens, some six years before the story starts.
The story is broadly contemporary and the first book is about how the two young women met, the development of their relationship and their work, successes and adventures over their first year together.
Later books will describe their lives and adventures thereafter."
PS
Thinking about it overnight, the current draft of the opening of the sequel hopefully gives a sense of the possibilities (and, appropriate for this forum, includes no sex). To the extent that I am conscious of "sources" for Jenny, they are a young lady I encountered many years ago when I attended her mental health review tribunal as an observer (she had been sent to a secure psychiatric unit rather than prison for killing her brother, who had raped her) and Becca Gallagher in the television series "Ultimate Force". The Hereford reference links to important elements of the first novel and provides one of the bases for the on-going story.
"Shortly after 7.30 on the first Saturday in September [ ] Jenny Clark woke up, went to the bathroom and then got herself a glass of apple juice. Back in their bedroom where Margaret was still asleep, she sat on the chair, sipping her drink and remembering exactly a year ago when, having woken, she had nearly twelve hours to wait before seeing Margaret at the Bristol. She had been so unhappy, almost sure that the evening would be the end of her hopes of an on-going relationship with Margaret. Yet her fear had proved entirely misplaced. After an awkward hour in the restaurant when neither she nor Margaret felt comfortable to talk, they had walked to Margaret's flat. Then almost immediately they found that the several days they had been apart following their return from the cottage where they had spent August had in no way changed the love each had declared for the other. They had spent that Saturday night together, and had not been apart for a single one since.
Married less than four months after that first night in the flat, they had had a worrying period when Margaret's father, Simon, had been diagnosed with prostate cancer and hadn't been given the all clear until after his operation some weeks later. That apart, things had gone so well. From the time a year ago when Jenny was alone, with no family or friends, she was now married, had been welcomed into Margaret's family and had several really good friends. Margaret would be returning to Grenville High on Monday as the newly appointed head of the English department. Jenny had enjoyed her year there as a teaching assistant, the highlight being helping train one of the girls, Pamela Jackson, to win the national school girls cross country championship. And in the course of Pamela's training all three had developed a link to "Staff", in charge of fitness training and assessment with 22 Regiment, the SAS, and had spent the last few weeks at Hereford.
Being so much in love, with Simon clear of cancer, and her place at university, Jenny knew she should be very happy, but in truth she wasn't. She had been sad when she left Grenville High at the end of June and part of her wished she was returning, with Margaret, on Monday. Leaving Hereford on Friday, though she was scheduled to return next February and July, had upset her much more than she had expected, and part of her wished she had taken up the invitation to work as Staff's assistant. From being in jobs she enjoyed, at the local leisure centre and then at Grenville High, and making a real contribution at Hereford, she now felt adrift. She hoped she would enjoy university when she started in three weeks' time and knew that getting a degree was an important step on the road to becoming a qualified teacher. But in her heart she felt going to lectures, writing essays and taking exams would be dull compared with Grenville High and Hereford."
I have always admired those who can write. It is something that I have never been good at.
Think your writing is very good and that you seem to be on to something. Good luck with your book and your series. When you become famous make sure to credit FoF for supporting you. :wine:
New project for me. I ran a cat5 cable a few years ago to our basement TV for my son. His PlayStation was lagging, and he was complaining about the internet speed. So, I ran the cat5 cable which allowed him to get the fastest speed we had at the time directly into his gaming system.
Now with everyone home, and everyone using the internet for video calling, gaming and movie streaming, I find that even though I am paying for a 100 + mb connection that there is some lagging on everyone's devices. I am also assuming that some of this has to do with everyone around us also being home and trying to work and home school their kids via the internet.
So, I have started running cat5 cable to almost every room in the house. I am setting up a "budget" home network in hopes that everyone will get the fastest speed possible. Hopefully it will work.
Quote from: love4ffc on March 26, 2020, 03:17:48 PM
New project for me. I ran a cat5 cable a few years ago to our basement TV for my son. His PlayStation was lagging, and he was complaining about the internet speed. So, I ran the cat5 cable which allowed him to get the fastest speed we had at the time directly into his gaming system.
Now with everyone home, and everyone using the internet for video calling, gaming and movie streaming, I find that even though I am paying for a 100 + mb connection that there is some lagging on everyone's devices. I am also assuming that some of this has to do with everyone around us also being home and trying to work and home school their kids via the internet.
So, I have started running cat5 cable to almost every room in the house. I am setting up a "budget" home network in hopes that everyone will get the fastest speed possible. Hopefully it will work.
Don, You could invest in the Powerline Adaptor (https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020p-kit/ (https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020p-kit/)), I use them for working from home, had them 3 years with no problems at all. And/or if you add in an ethernet hub (https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/switches/soho-ethernet-switches/default.aspx (https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/switches/soho-ethernet-switches/default.aspx)) where you need more than one cable in a room, then you're good to go.
Quote from: Logicalman on March 26, 2020, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on March 26, 2020, 03:17:48 PM
New project for me. I ran a cat5 cable a few years ago to our basement TV for my son. His PlayStation was lagging, and he was complaining about the internet speed. So, I ran the cat5 cable which allowed him to get the fastest speed we had at the time directly into his gaming system.
Now with everyone home, and everyone using the internet for video calling, gaming and movie streaming, I find that even though I am paying for a 100 + mb connection that there is some lagging on everyone's devices. I am also assuming that some of this has to do with everyone around us also being home and trying to work and home school their kids via the internet.
So, I have started running cat5 cable to almost every room in the house. I am setting up a "budget" home network in hopes that everyone will get the fastest speed possible. Hopefully it will work.
Don, You could invest in the Powerline Adaptor (https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020p-kit/ (https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020p-kit/)), I use them for working from home, had them 3 years with no problems at all. And/or if you add in an ethernet hub (https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/switches/soho-ethernet-switches/default.aspx (https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/switches/soho-ethernet-switches/default.aspx)) where you need more than one cable in a room, then you're good to go.
Good advice sir. I'll look into them.
Not at all!!!! Even though I am retired (69) but still doing some clients´ accounts, I am now doing nothing (work wise) as they have all stopped working and my income from self employment has now ceased for the foreseeable future. I wasn´t expecting any financial support package today so I wasn´t disappointed when I learned their wasn´t any for people like me receiving a pension and my main ¨earnings¨ were not from self employment. A lot of people are far worse off than me, just don´t know any personally (only joking)!
Cooking
It's a bit like "Ready Steady Cook ' depending on what I can pick up at the supermarket / farm shop
People seem to avoid duck and any form of game (plenty available - as opposed to chicken ) So eating plenty of that . Tonight we had gnocchi with chicken livers - last night was partridge with cabbage and pancetta - tomorrow sardine pasta
Chocolate cake, crumbles and homemade rice pudding also being made and consumed in vast amounts. Drinking also increasing exponentially - wine in copious amounts and brandy fourfold !!
Love4FFC
Thanks.
Under pressure from my wife (who told me bluntly she couldn't reference it to her friends in its initial form) I've spent today going through it and removing some of the sexual content. Now as high as 32 in one of the categories - that for stories pertaining to the SAS, - though I am sure it bears even less resemblance to reality there than "Ultimate Force" (whose character Becca Gallagher I've slightly drawn on in "Jenny".)
No mention whatever of football or of Fulham. Shakespeare, poetry, cross country running, swimming (and, in the sequel, tennis) but not football.
I'm impressed with you lot doing so many productive things. Other than producing a large callus on my backside, I haven't done much. The garden beds are ready but nothing planted except the shallots. We've had a lasting winter. Even had snow flurries two days ago. (Yes, I'm in SoCal, abet a little farther above sea level than most.) I got the weed abatement done on my cleared area. The throttle broke on my rototiller so I had to tie a piece of fishing line on it and wrap it around my fingers so I could keep the RPMs up.
I must be bored to write this non sense. Be well mates!
Me and Mrs W just worked our way through 20 plus litres of Cuprinol fence paint. Only half way there so thank god for Screwfix click & collect.
(I could have phrased that better - sounds like we drank it!). Talking of a drink .... the one I have in hand well earned!
Video gaming
Current playlist:
Exanima
Star Citizen
Tom Clancy's The Division (still not sure about this game)
FIFA 2020
Cleaning...but I live in a 1 bedroom apartment...LAST week I cleaned a lot...now I'm just boredom cleaning.
At some point I'm going to start learning a new skill...and it's not going to be cooking.
My son and I just downloaded an old Atari game pack. We have been playing asteroids, breakout and other old games. Pretty fun actually.
Thought I would try the garden .. too much, too soon...and the old back gave out. Think I will be better off following Milo's wine recommendations....
All the decorating jobs I have successfully ignored have been very handy now I cant play golf. Been upgrading wiring, installing new lights then decorating. Might get round to the garden but garden centres are closed so cant do the baskets.
Quote from: love4ffc on March 27, 2020, 06:17:22 PM
My son and I just downloaded an old Atari game pack. We have been playing asteroids, breakout and other old games. Pretty fun actually.
Who won?
Quote from: Bill2 on March 27, 2020, 06:55:49 PM
All the decorating jobs I have successfully ignored have been very handy now I cant play golf. Been upgrading wiring, installing new lights then decorating. Might get round to the garden but garden centres are closed so cant do the baskets.
You can still order online from a lot of places!
Quote from: love4ffc on March 27, 2020, 06:17:22 PM
My son and I just downloaded an old Atari game pack. We have been playing asteroids, breakout and other old games. Pretty fun actually.
We had our oldest granddaughter to stay last week, and she got me into playing MineCraft (I had to buy the game first for the old PS3). Bit of a difficult game to learn for my old head, the gameplay is easy on the face of it, but strategy not as intuitive as one might think.
Wife and I still play BomberMan daily though after work, just to end thr working day before dinner.
Quote from: davew on March 27, 2020, 07:03:12 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on March 27, 2020, 06:17:22 PM
My son and I just downloaded an old Atari game pack. We have been playing asteroids, breakout and other old games. Pretty fun actually.
Who won?
My son is a mush better online games then I. But, I do enjoy playing and we are spending time together so there is that.
Quote from: love4ffc on March 26, 2020, 06:25:16 PM
Quote from: Logicalman on March 26, 2020, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on March 26, 2020, 03:17:48 PM
New project for me. I ran a cat5 cable a few years ago to our basement TV for my son. His PlayStation was lagging, and he was complaining about the internet speed. So, I ran the cat5 cable which allowed him to get the fastest speed we had at the time directly into his gaming system.
Now with everyone home, and everyone using the internet for video calling, gaming and movie streaming, I find that even though I am paying for a 100 + mb connection that there is some lagging on everyone's devices. I am also assuming that some of this has to do with everyone around us also being home and trying to work and home school their kids via the internet.
So, I have started running cat5 cable to almost every room in the house. I am setting up a "budget" home network in hopes that everyone will get the fastest speed possible. Hopefully it will work.
Don, You could invest in the Powerline Adaptor (https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020p-kit/ (https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020p-kit/)), I use them for working from home, had them 3 years with no problems at all. And/or if you add in an ethernet hub (https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/switches/soho-ethernet-switches/default.aspx (https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/switches/soho-ethernet-switches/default.aspx)) where you need more than one cable in a room, then you're good to go.
Good advice sir. I'll look into them.
I use them but find they do slow the internet. We have a fibre cable direct to the house. It ends at a box in the cupboard under the stairs and I could attach my router to that, but the pcs are old and need an ethernet cable and some of our equipment won't run on wifi or bluetooth so connecting to the router attached directly to the box isn't practical (it needs to be nearer to our desks), so we use Powerline. I ran a speed test with the pcs connected to the box and also connected to Powerline and found a 50% reduction when connected to the Powerline adaptors.
Whilst I am working from home we re critical suppliers into the medical market, especially the ventilator and respiratory market. We are making springs like they are going out of fashion. Tough times trying to keep manufacturing going whilst thinking of the staff!
Eh, I stay busy because I like earning a wage! Plus, I've been working from home for years now, so I'm used to it. I mean, I can perfectly write a market analysis around these flats for sale in Cannes (https://tranio.com/france/provence-alpes-cote_d_azur/cannes/apartments/) while chatting with my wife and with the cat walking on the table, so it's not like I can't handle it!
Before the outbreak we had contracted with a specialist company to rip out and replace our entire garden to a design from our son in law (who is a landscape architect). They did a fantastic job and just finished their work before the corona restrictions came into force. But a completely new garden is a seriously expensive project so we had already decided to save some cash by planting out ourselves and then applying all the mulch too.
This has kept us very busy! We planted nearly 700 plants and so far have shifted 2.5 tons of pine bark mulch (another ton to go). We are knackered but it has been so rewarding and there are plenty of other jobs to do before we finish. So this should keep us busy in the weeks to come.
