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Peter Rutzler@peterrutzler
Clock is ticking on #FFC's centre-back search:
• Want at least one, ideally two.
• Multiple options in play
• Bremer talks ongoing
• Can meet Todibo asking price, all on player
• Foyth loan approach rejected
• Kongolo deal collapsed late
source:
theathletic.com
Still getting back to fitness and has not played any football for 9 months. Rumour was medical late in the window and may have failed it. If not fit why take a chance we need players to come in and start very quickly.
Quote from: sarnian on October 01, 2020, 08:56:03 AM
Still getting back to fitness and has not played any football for 9 months. Rumour was medical late in the window and may have failed it. If not fit why take a chance we need players to come in and start very quickly.
Exactly. Why get him in to sit on the bench? Wise to look elsewhere
Quote from: sarnian on October 01, 2020, 08:56:03 AM
Still getting back to fitness and has not played any football for 9 months. Rumour was medical late in the window and may have failed it. If not fit why take a chance we need players to come in and start very quickly.
Kongolo is a Huddersfield player so windows does not close till the 16Th for him so might still be waiting to do medical
Are there really not one single centerback in the Championschip, among these 24 teams, that are an upgrade to what we currently have?
Quote from: sarvenpa on October 01, 2020, 09:23:54 AM
Are there really not one single centerback in the Championschip, among these 24 teams, that are an upgrade to what we currently have?
we need more than just an upgrade on what we have, we need prem level standards. Hecter was a good cb for the majority of it last season.
I wonder if John Stones will become available, perhaps on loan. He needs to play regularly, he does basically have everything we need to enhance our defence.
Quote from: fulhamben on October 01, 2020, 09:30:58 AM
Quote from: sarvenpa on October 01, 2020, 09:23:54 AM
Are there really not one single centerback in the Championschip, among these 24 teams, that are an upgrade to what we currently have?
we need more than just an upgrade on what we have, we need prem level standards. Hecter was a good cb for the majority of it last season.
Im still holding on to Hector needing a better player beside him for him to be comfortable. Maybe wishful thinking but i'm hoping he will prove good enough a this level.
Quote from: fulhamben on October 01, 2020, 09:30:58 AM
Quote from: sarvenpa on October 01, 2020, 09:23:54 AM
Are there really not one single centerback in the Championschip, among these 24 teams, that are an upgrade to what we currently have?
we need more than just an upgrade on what we have, we need prem level standards. Hecter was a good cb for the majority of it last season.
So the asnwer is no then?
Thats why we are looking abroad, cause no one among these 24 teams has any player that can do a good job in the Prem.
Quote from: sarvenpa on October 01, 2020, 09:23:54 AM
Are there really not one single centerback in the Championschip, among these 24 teams, that are an upgrade to what we currently have?
Definitely. Alfie Mawson. A significant upgrade on Odoi, Ream and Le Marchand. Something very wrong about his loan to Bristol City IMO.
Quote from: hongkongfulham on October 01, 2020, 09:34:03 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 01, 2020, 09:30:58 AM
Quote from: sarvenpa on October 01, 2020, 09:23:54 AM
Are there really not one single centerback in the Championschip, among these 24 teams, that are an upgrade to what we currently have?
we need more than just an upgrade on what we have, we need prem level standards. Hecter was a good cb for the majority of it last season.
Im still holding on to Hector needing a better player beside him for him to be comfortable. Maybe wishful thinking but i'm hoping he will prove good enough a this level.
I'd rather we had a class act along side Ream,who reads the game better than Hector imo.🤗
Quote from: Whitestone on October 01, 2020, 09:35:31 AM
Quote from: sarvenpa on October 01, 2020, 09:23:54 AM
Are there really not one single centerback in the Championschip, among these 24 teams, that are an upgrade to what we currently have?
Definitely. Alfie Mawson. A significant upgrade on Odoi, Ream and Le Marchand. Something very wrong about his loan to Bristol City IMO.
Cant remember who, but someone here told us that Mawson would never again play under Parker.
Weeks later he was loaned out.
Quote from: sarvenpa on October 01, 2020, 09:23:54 AM
Are there really not one single centerback in the Championschip, among these 24 teams, that are an upgrade to what we currently have?
I found this fascinating stats based article relating to Championship centre backs:
https://totalfootballanalysis.com/article/which-championship-centre-backs-are-ready-for-the-premier-league-data-analysis-statistics
What I cannot work out from a Fulham perspective is why Ream is missing and seemingly replaced by Kongolo - who as we all know never played for us in the Championship!
Some standout names are Cameron Carter-Vickers (on loan from Spurs), Pontus Janssen, Tomas Kalas (!) and Hector (phew)
Perhaps Tone should use this to identify his next signing!
It was Hillingdon who knows Mawson's dad and has been right on everything Mawson related from before he even signed. He suggested something had occurred behind the scenes and stated he would be surprised if Mawson played for us again. I'm still shocked we let him leave before signing a replacement though as we were already short, I can't believe it could have been that bad 🤷♂️
Quote from: JoelH5 on October 01, 2020, 09:10:07 AM
Quote from: sarnian on October 01, 2020, 08:56:03 AM
Still getting back to fitness and has not played any football for 9 months. Rumour was medical late in the window and may have failed it. If not fit why take a chance we need players to come in and start very quickly.
Exactly. Why get him in to sit on the bench? Wise to look elsewhere
I like Kongolo - but agree it is time to move on. Even if he is fully recovered from the injury (which I doubt - based on reports), it will take him several weeks to get match fitness. He may not even be back playing until after Xmas!
Quote from: Whitestone on October 01, 2020, 09:35:31 AM
Quote from: sarvenpa on October 01, 2020, 09:23:54 AM
Are there really not one single centerback in the Championschip, among these 24 teams, that are an upgrade to what we currently have?
Definitely. Alfie Mawson. A significant upgrade on Odoi, Ream and Le Marchand. Something very wrong about his loan to Bristol City IMO.
I really, really wish people would stop going on about this as if we've let some world-beater through our hands.
I rarely, if ever, read a report on Mawson saying how well he'd played, he'd done this well, looked unbeatable in the air etc.
He is not, as we know, an upgrade on the above players. Possibly similar, on a good day a bit better, on a bad day a bit worse.
However, if he fell out with the manager then off he trots. It's re-writing history to claim that he's a huge loss to us.
We signed mawson who was crocked can't see it happening again with a different player!
To be fair we can sign Kongolo well into October should we decide to because we can trade with EFL clubs after the international deadline for another 10 days I think
Pontus Jansson would be great tbh
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 01, 2020, 11:59:20 AM
To be fair we can sign Kongolo well into October should we decide to because we can trade with EFL clubs after the international deadline for another 10 days I think
Forget deadlines we need new centre backs bedded in and ready to play as soon as ever possible, every day delayed is critical.
Quote from: filham on October 01, 2020, 12:14:22 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 01, 2020, 11:59:20 AM
To be fair we can sign Kongolo well into October should we decide to because we can trade with EFL clubs after the international deadline for another 10 days I think
Forget deadlines we need new centre backs bedded in and ready to play as soon as ever possible, every day delayed is critical.
Well he's not match fit and obviously not first choice, so obviously as a backup choice getting his signature isn't so vital and we can revisit should we need to
Personally, I do hope that we find an old school CH who is dominant in the air & a good organiser to compliment what we have.
I am positive we will get a couple of CB's in on or near to deadline day, both will be experienced although one will be older and no longer feature in his current team the other will be younger but no longer feature in his current team but will not have proved himself to play at the standard we require. Both will be on a staggeringly large wage.
With all this focus on CBs, we have almost forgotten that many of us were hoping for some competition for Reed as CDM. He's unproven at this level and now that he's injured we have no real cover for this spot (Lemina out as well). I do wonder if Onomah could be coached for this role. He has the physical qualities, but would need to develop the critical positional sense.
