Window has shut we know what we have now
Alphonse Areola
Marek Rodak
Fabri
Kenny Tete
Denis Odoi
Ola Aina
Joachim Andersen
Michael Hector
Tosin Adarabioyo
Terrence Kongolo
Tim Ream
Max Le Marchand
Antonee Robinson
Joe Bryan
Harrison Reed
Tom Cairney
Frank Anguissa
Mario Lemina
Josh Onomah
Jean Michael Seri
Stefan Johansen
Kevin McDonald
Ruben Loftus Cheek
Ademola Lookman
Bobby De Cordova Reed
Ivan Cavaleiro
Neeskens Kebano
Abou Kamara
Aleksandar Mitrovic
29 man squad so 4 won't make the cut. Hurts to say it but the legends of McDonald & Johansen likely to miss out.
I think we needed a back up striker but other than that I think it's been a good window. One thing I would say is the time of the signings etc really is bizarre.
The Andersen injury is a big blow hopefully Kongolo is fit soon.
Big game Sunday hopefully our season starts now
Anderson out of squad pending rehab?
KMac has been told he can go free (shame)
That leaves 2 to trim
Seri - who knows? Is he transferable or loanable?
Stefjo? (I hope not)
Ream?
MLM?
KMac, Fabri, Johansen and Seri to miss out
Quote from: We Are Premier League on October 16, 2020, 11:11:51 PM
KMac, Fabri, Johansen and Seri to miss out
Fabri? Leaving us with only 2 keepers?
We are overstacked in Midfield and Defence. got to be KMac, Stef Jo, Ream and MLM for me.
Fabri
Ream
Johansen
McDonald
Leave out one of
Tete or Anderson or Odoi or Ream (determined by injuries and cover required)
Leave out both
KMac
Stefjo
Leave out one of
Onamah or Seri
Fabri, KMac and Johansen to miss out - plus either Ream, Odoi or MLM.
KMac and Johansen seem obvious exclusions.
It wouldn't surprise me if we only go with two keepers for 2.5 months. That opens another slot.
I'd guess MLM or Odoi for the final one, and probably leaning Odoi since we may play three CBs and MLM started last match (unless Tete's injury is expected to keep him shelved for longer than we think; then Odoi might be needed to cover at RB)
Keep Kmac and Johansen for the dressing room/ coaching.
Ditch Seri.
Ah difficult beyond that.
Surprised people want to leave out Stefjo over Seri. He's shown way more over his time here.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on October 16, 2020, 11:46:31 PM
Leave out one of
Tete or Anderson or Odoi or Ream (determined by injuries and cover required)
Leave out both
KMac
Stefjo
Leave out one of
Onamah or Seri
FABRI & SERI & 2 others who are also under 6 feet in their stockinged feet.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 17, 2020, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on October 16, 2020, 11:46:31 PM
Leave out one of
Tete or Anderson or Odoi or Ream (determined by injuries and cover required)
Leave out both
KMac
Stefjo
Leave out one of
Onamah or Seri
FABRI & SERI & 2 others who are also under 6 feet in their stockinged feet.
Fabri is over 6 feet, 1.85cm like the great Peter Shilton. Fabri has still conceeded less than 70 goals in his last 70 games, even though his last five games have conceeded 9 goals. Fabri is damn fine keeper although not as good as our other two keepers.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on October 17, 2020, 12:58:32 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 17, 2020, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on October 16, 2020, 11:46:31 PM
Leave out one of
Tete or Anderson or Odoi or Ream (determined by injuries and cover required)
Leave out both
KMac
Stefjo
Leave out one of
Onamah or Seri
FABRI & SERI & 2 others who are also under 6 feet in their stockinged feet.
Fabri is over 6 feet, 1.85cm like the great Peter Shilton. Fabri has still conceeded less than 70 goals in his last 70 games, even though his last five games have conceeded 9 goals. Fabri is damn fine keeper although not as good as our other two keepers.
Yes but you have taken Fabri's height measurements whilst he was standing on a step ladder and you were kneeling down in a hole. That is the only way you could make him 6 feet, and if he was 6ft that still makes him 8 and a half inches smaller than me, so that makes him small for a Zoo Keeper let alone a Goalkeeper and Fabri is no Peter Shilton or Ron Springett.
He surplus to our requirements, if the owners son is daft enough to send Betts on loan then what do you expect. Just bring in an Academy Keeper in as third choice. The Goals in the Premier are the same size as in the Academy.
Off loading Fabri means Fulham only need to remove three outfield players, which will solve the issue.
Stef Jo, McDonald, Anderson (due to injury), Onomah. Would be Ream instead of Anderson if he wasn't injured.
Reality bites - we have a bloated squad, should have gotten rid of Fabri, Seri, Stef Jo and McDonald prior to all this but hey ho.
Starting 18?
I would leave out Odoi before I left out Ream.
KMac, StefJo, Odoi, Anderson.
I think we will go with two keepers, then if we have an injury we can bring in a youth keeper like George wickens to sit on the bench
Unbelievably bad luck over Andresen....Good signings BUT no back up or addition up front.
I would get rid of Cav he has been of zero help so far all of 2020 and frankly looks worse and worse every time he plays. What's even worse he upsets the rhythm of the team.
I would keep StefJo as meed a box to box and lose Fabri, Cav, K Mac and M L M that would mean we keep the cover and suggestions of losing Onamah are just crazy. Seri needs to be in there as we should have sold him already, otherwise what happens to him ?
Quote from: Samsara on October 17, 2020, 03:19:04 AM
I would leave out Odoi before I left out Ream.
KMac, StefJo, Odoi, Anderson.
I was about to say the same as this, but I think Odoi may get the nod over Ream for the fact he can theoretically provide cover at RB, whereas Ream is purely a CB.
By the sound of Andersen's injury, it doesn't make sense to fill up a berth in the 25 man squad this side of January. Hopefully he'll be like Hector was for us last season.
Fabri, McDonald, Johansen and Ream.
when do the 25 have to be submitted?
ok ive found it. squads have to be submitted by the 20th
Seri is one of our highest earners, wouldn't be wise to leave him out. If he wants a move he will be incentivised to put in a performance.
A big thing was made of not ripping apart the team spirit this time round and keeping the heart of the team. Who apart from Mitrovic is guaranteed to start this year? The big difference does not appear to be numbers but the amount spent.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on October 17, 2020, 09:58:45 AM
Seri is one of our highest earners, wouldn't be wise to leave him out. If he wants a move he will be incentivised to put in a performance.
money will have zero factor on who gets a spot, they get paid regardless, it will be down to who can help the team the most, and i just dont see seri getting any game time. who would you drop for him
Quote from: rebel on October 17, 2020, 08:24:08 AM
Fabri, McDonald, Johansen and Ream.
Think we might end up keeping all the CBs until Jan, especially if we are planning a back three.
Kongolo and Andersen are currently not fit but will be in squad. Adi hasn't played any games for 3-4 months so he might need a few weeks to get back up to speed...
That only leave the old faithful crew of Hector, Ream, MLM, and Odoi.
Another plus for Odoi is the he is our only RWB cover until Tete is back.
Therefore, I think 3 CMs will go instead. As we are only 11 weeks away the next window we will probably go for an u20 as third gk and hope that we can get someone to pay part of fabris wages.
Fabri, SJ, McDonald, Kamara.
We really should have ensured some of that list were off the wage bill.
I think we can best do without Le Marchand, K. Mac (hurts me to say that), Seri, and Cav.
What on earth now happens to those four, we can't even give them any exposure ready to sell in January.
Surely being lumbered with so many extra players has to be considered another fairly big cock-up by TK
I'd have some sympathy if we'd undertaken a huge overhaul and totally upgraded the team, but the upgrades have pretty mild really.
I'd add Knockaert to the 4-5 players mentioned above - players who are realistically never going to play for Fulham again.
Successfully finding homes for unwanted players is another difference between an experienced DoF executing a proper transfer strategy, and some part-time novice playing real life Championship Manager.
Quote from: Statto on October 17, 2020, 10:21:36 AM
Surely being lumbered with so many extra players has to be considered another fairly big cock-up by TK
I'd have some sympathy if we'd undertaken a huge overhaul and totally upgraded the team, but the upgrades have pretty mild really.
I'd add Knockaert to the 4-5 players mentioned above - players who are realistically never going to play for Fulham again.
Successfully finding homes for unwanted players is another difference between an experienced DoF executing a proper transfer strategy, and some part-time novice playing real life Championship Manager.
+1
Quote from: HV71 on October 17, 2020, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: Statto on October 17, 2020, 10:21:36 AM
Surely being lumbered with so many extra players has to be considered another fairly big cock-up by TK
I'd have some sympathy if we'd undertaken a huge overhaul and totally upgraded the team, but the upgrades have pretty mild really.
I'd add Knockaert to the 4-5 players mentioned above - players who are realistically never going to play for Fulham again.
Successfully finding homes for unwanted players is another difference between an experienced DoF executing a proper transfer strategy, and some part-time novice playing real life Championship Manager.
+1
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I doubt that we are the only club who have more than 25 first team players (over the age of 23) who are still in the building come 20th October.
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 17, 2020, 10:09:46 AM
Fabri, SJ, McDonald, Kamara.
is that who you think he will drop or who you want to be dropped, as theres no way he will drop our only other striker
Quote from: Herbie on October 17, 2020, 11:17:56 AM
I doubt that we are the only club who have more than 25 first team players (over the age of 23) who are still in the building come 20th October.
But how many of our peer clubs (so Burnley, Sheffield Utd et al rather than Man City and Spurs) will be paying £100k-£200k per week to players who aren't even eligible to play?
If we go with 2 keepers, can we get Betts back from his loan if necessary. Or does it have a buy clause.
Drop Fabri from the squad. If one of the first choices gets injured Ashby Hammond can come in as backup and if both first choices are injured we can apply to get Fabri in as emergency cover.
Might have to be 5 if you want to bring in Wellbeck
Quote from: Statto on October 17, 2020, 10:21:36 AM
Surely being lumbered with so many extra players has to be considered another fairly big cock-up by TK
I'd have some sympathy if we'd undertaken a huge overhaul and totally upgraded the team, but the upgrades have pretty mild really.
I'd add Knockaert to the 4-5 players mentioned above - players who are realistically never going to play for Fulham again.
Knockaert is on loan to Nott F until 6/1/21 so doesn't come into the 25 squad number anyway.
Successfully finding homes for unwanted players is another difference between an experienced DoF executing a proper transfer strategy, and some part-time novice playing real life Championship Manager.
Quote from: res on October 17, 2020, 01:37:10 PM
Knockaert is on loan to Nott F until 6/1/21 so doesn't come into the 25 squad number anyway.
Yeah that wasn't really my point. My point is we technically only signed him a few months ago for £10m+ and he's now a millstone around our neck who's realistically never going to player again. Besides the transfer fee, we're also on the hook for his wages for the second half of this season and maybe even beyond that (and we could potentially even still be making a contribution to them whilst he's at Forest).
Quote from: Statto on October 17, 2020, 01:57:30 PM
Quote from: res on October 17, 2020, 01:37:10 PM
Knockaert is on loan to Nott F until 6/1/21 so doesn't come into the 25 squad number anyway.
Yeah that wasn't really my point. My point is we technically only signed him a few months ago for £10m+ and he's now a millstone around our neck who's realistically never going to player again. Besides the transfer fee, we're also on the hook for his wages for the second half of this season and maybe even beyond that (and we could potentially even still be making a contribution to them whilst he's at Forest).
Absolutely spot on - and no good us getting worked up about any money for Harvey Elliot when we waste it like this
Quote from: Statto on October 17, 2020, 10:21:36 AM
Surely being lumbered with so many extra players has to be considered another fairly big cock-up by TK
I'd have some sympathy if we'd undertaken a huge overhaul and totally upgraded the team, but the upgrades have pretty mild really.
I'd add Knockaert to the 4-5 players mentioned above - players who are realistically never going to play for Fulham again.
Successfully finding homes for unwanted players is another difference between an experienced DoF executing a proper transfer strategy, and some part-time novice playing real life Championship Manager.
Subject to the caveat concerning Knock's loan I completely agree. Regardless of precisely who is excluded from the squad the wage bill for those players will be eye watering.
Quote from: F(f)CUK on October 17, 2020, 10:01:56 AM
A big thing was made of not ripping apart the team spirit this time round and keeping the heart of the team. Who apart from Mitrovic is guaranteed to start this year? The big difference does not appear to be numbers but the amount spent.
You're right it has been said and there don't seem to be a lot who are now guaranteed to start.
That said, there are a lot of players you could argue could interchange when fitness is poor, you need to change things up or someone has an injury.
Cairney actually looked quite good a bit deeper and alongside Anguissa. Reed could well play a role. Reid has played most games. Up front the two who are guarantees are Lookman and Mitro, if you want to start RLC up that high, he could possibly play on the right, but if not, then you've got Cav, Kebano, Reid or Kamara fighting over one slot.
In Defence, Bryan and Robinson are both competent and interchangable, Kongolo and Tosin and Hector are our foundation for the future as things stand. Ream and Odoi aren't capable at this level and are also getting old. I'd look to move them on in January so they get one more contract and we freshen up the squad and wage bill.
Quote from: Statto on October 17, 2020, 11:41:37 AM
But how many of our peer clubs (so Burnley, Sheffield Utd et al rather than Man City and Spurs) will be paying £100k-£200k per week to players who aren't even eligible to play?
I take your point, but I'd rather it was this way round than the alternative of us only having, say, 22 senior first team players and having to rush the academy players in when injuries hit..
There has to be a CB cut at the least. Currently have Hector, Ream, MLM, Tosin, Kongolo, Andersen and Odoi covering, which is a bit overkill.
Out of them the one I'd expect Ream to be the one who'd have some interest for a possible transfer to the US. Still a couple of windows open across the world.
Quote from: General on October 17, 2020, 02:24:59 PM
Quote from: F(f)CUK on October 17, 2020, 10:01:56 AM
A big thing was made of not ripping apart the team spirit this time round and keeping the heart of the team. Who apart from Mitrovic is guaranteed to start this year? The big difference does not appear to be numbers but the amount spent.
You're right it has been said and there don't seem to be a lot who are now guaranteed to start.
That said, there are a lot of players you could argue could interchange when fitness is poor, you need to change things up or someone has an injury.
Cairney actually looked quite good a bit deeper and alongside Anguissa. Reed could well play a role. Reid has played most games. Up front the two who are guarantees are Lookman and Mitro, if you want to start RLC up that high, he could possibly play on the right, but if not, then you've got Cav, Kebano, Reid or Kamara fighting over one slot.
In Defence, Bryan and Robinson are both competent and interchangable, Kongolo and Tosin and Hector are our foundation for the future as things stand. Ream and Odoi aren't capable at this level and are also getting old. I'd look to move them on in January so they get one more contract and we freshen up the squad and wage bill.
Think this is a good round up. What a lottery this season will be
Have a feeling Ream starts today no way he being left out of the squad. Parker likes him
