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Title: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: 3 Cherries on December 26, 2020, 05:07:11 PM
We are desperate!!
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: hongkongfulham on December 26, 2020, 05:09:07 PM
Mitro scored twice against leeds
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: Deeping_white on December 26, 2020, 05:09:43 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on December 26, 2020, 05:07:11 PM
We are desperate!!

Not as desperate as your maths ability it would seem
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: 3 Cherries on December 26, 2020, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on December 26, 2020, 05:09:43 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on December 26, 2020, 05:07:11 PM
We are desperate!!

Not as desperate as your maths ability it would seem


OK haha well 3 goals in 15 games by three strikers
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: Jims Dentist on December 28, 2020, 09:17:57 PM
Shows where we need to strengthen.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: mrmicawbers on December 28, 2020, 09:38:02 PM
Yeah if you want to de negative get your facts straight.merry
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: fulhamben on December 28, 2020, 09:53:45 PM
How many tines has ak played as a striker can't be much. Mitro probably has good stats for his mins too. Let's not talk about cav. Our right back has 5 goals doesn't he so he's doing well. Maybe we should play him further up. Just a thought.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on December 28, 2020, 09:58:59 PM
Maybe when or if tete gets fit he can play in bdr place and put bobby up front
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: Jims Dentist on December 28, 2020, 11:21:55 PM
BDR is doing really well in this current role.

He was not a success as central striker last season,
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: Whitestone on December 29, 2020, 11:56:34 AM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on December 28, 2020, 11:21:55 PM
BDR is doing really well in this current role.

He was not a success as central striker last season,

Agree. Its new players that are required.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: Sting of the North on December 29, 2020, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on December 26, 2020, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on December 26, 2020, 05:09:43 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on December 26, 2020, 05:07:11 PM
We are desperate!!

Not as desperate as your maths ability it would seem


OK haha well 3 goals in 15 games by three strikers

But they have not all played all games, and certainly not as strikers all the time.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: filham on December 29, 2020, 12:55:32 PM
Of those three Cav. must have played the most and Kamara the least. Time to give Kamara a couple of full games.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: clarkey on December 29, 2020, 01:19:20 PM
Filham is right. Cav has been picked a disproportionate amount and everyone can see he is useless as a striker. And I mean genuinely useless. No goals from open play in over a year and frequently gives away the ball, fails to cross, misses chances (that header was woeful) and is just mentally untuitable to the challenge: he always makes the wrong decision.

There is harm at all in playing Kamara in that top of the pitch position, as he has not been tried there once. He usually gets used as a winger  playing wide. He has speed and in our great run three seasons ago he was excellent.If we had him played correctly or of course a fully fit and mobile Mitro all would be fine, and that goal tally would be much higher.

Also Tom Cairney scores for us remember ? So too Josh when fit and Joe Bryan is worth playing further up the field if Mitro is in the team.This squad has lots of unexplored options open but the obsession with Cav is stopping all that.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: Radiowhite on December 29, 2020, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: filham on December 29, 2020, 12:55:32 PM
Of those three Cav. must have played the most and Kamara the least. Time to give Kamara a couple of full games.
Kamara is awful, shocks me that people think he could be effective in the prem
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: colinwhite on December 29, 2020, 01:40:57 PM
Forget the obsession with Cavalero as a striker he is getting picked because he can play defending from the front and counter attack with pace. Play Cairney ,Mitro and Bryan in the same side and lets see how many goals we let in.
Instead of looking at goals scored since Mitro and Company have been out of the side wake up and looka at goal difference instead.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: AnOldBrownie on December 29, 2020, 02:36:17 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 28, 2020, 09:53:45 PM
How many tines has ak played as a striker can't be much. Mitro probably has good stats for his mins too. Let's not talk about cav. Our right back has 5 goals doesn't he so he's doing well. Maybe we should play him further up. Just a thought.

He doesn't.   640+ minutes... 2 goals... 2 assist.

To be fair...we've moved Bobby to a more defensive position (to help Aina) which has also hurt our goal scoring opportunities.

Maybe, once Tete is there, we won't need to have a RWB help our RFB.    It's not like Antonee Robinson gets any help from Lookman...yet we don't look any less solid on the left side.

And yes...we need a fast striker in the transfer window.   RLC/Cav shouldn't be our best options available when Bobby is used defensively.

IMO...in a perfect world, we have this lineup.


             Areola
Tete    Anderson  Tosin    Robinson

    Aina     Anguissa   Lemina   

New player   Mitro/Bobby     Lookman

Aina can do what Bobby is currently doing now.

In essence, that gives us 5 defenders...with Anguissa and Lemina who can either defend or attack in the midfield, and up top we have our strongest attacking options.

imo

Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: fulhamben on December 29, 2020, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on December 29, 2020, 02:36:17 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 28, 2020, 09:53:45 PM
How many tines has ak played as a striker can't be much. Mitro probably has good stats for his mins too. Let's not talk about cav. Our right back has 5 goals doesn't he so he's doing well. Maybe we should play him further up. Just a thought.

He doesn't.   640+ minutes... 2 goals... 2 assist.

To be fair...we've moved Bobby to a more defensive position (to help Aina) which has also hurt our goal scoring opportunities.

Maybe, once Tete is there, we won't need to have a RWB help our RFB.    It's not like Antonee Robinson gets any help from Lookman...yet we don't look any less solid on the left side.

And yes...we need a fast striker in the transfer window.   RLC/Cav shouldn't be our best options available when Bobby is used defensively.

IMO...in a perfect world, we have this lineup.


             Areola
Tete    Anderson  Tosin    Robinson

    Aina     Anguissa   Lemina   

New player   Mitro/Bobby     Lookman

Aina can do what Bobby is currently doing now.

In essence, that gives us 5 defenders...with Anguissa and Lemina who can either defend or attack in the midfield, and up top we have our strongest attacking options.

imo


now do cavs goals and assists per minute.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: Jules on December 29, 2020, 02:58:08 PM
Quote from: Radiowhite on December 29, 2020, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: filham link=topic=79189.msg1201546#msg1201546
date=1609246532

Of those three Cav. must have played the most and Kamara the least. Time to give Kamara a couple of full games.
Kamara is awful, shocks me that people think he could be effective in the prem
Agreed. He is one we need to sell or loan out in January. Definitely not a premier league player
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: fulhamben on December 29, 2020, 03:00:03 PM
Quote from: Jules on December 29, 2020, 02:58:08 PM
Quote from: Radiowhite on December 29, 2020, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: filham link=topic=79189.msg1201546#msg1201546
date=1609246532

Of those three Cav. must have played the most and Kamara the least. Time to give Kamara a couple of full games.
Kamara is awful, shocks me that people think he could be effective in the prem
Agreed. He is one we need to sell or loan out in January. Definitely not a premier league player
id still sell cav who is worse than useless, and send rlc home before I sell ak. He is better than them.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: AnOldBrownie on December 29, 2020, 03:12:16 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 29, 2020, 02:57:41 PM
now do cavs goals and assists per minute.

I don't rate Cav as a striker.    Bobby, not AK47, should be up top...but AINA isn't good enough defensively, so Bobby isn't used further up.

Cav is there for his work rate and pace, and he's better when we don't have possession.

No goals conceded from open play in 4 games.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: fulhamben on December 29, 2020, 03:42:26 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on December 29, 2020, 03:12:16 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 29, 2020, 02:57:41 PM
now do cavs goals and assists per minute.

I don't rate Cav as a striker.    Bobby, not AK47, should be up top...but AINA isn't good enough defensively, so Bobby isn't used further up.

Cav is there for his work rate and pace, and he's better when we don't have possession.

No goals conceded from open play in 4 games.
so you are not going to do cavs, because we all know he is useless. Why not just play joe Bryan up top, who is a better attacker and defender than cav.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: mrmicawbers on December 29, 2020, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on December 29, 2020, 03:12:16 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 29, 2020, 02:57:41 PM
now do cavs goals and assists per minute.

I don't rate Cav as a striker.    Bobby, not AK47, should be up top...but AINA isn't good enough defensively, so Bobby isn't used further up.

Cav is there for his work rate and pace, and he's better when we don't have possession.

No goals conceded from open play in 4 games.
Much too positive a post.Careful you'll have them spilling what's left in their Glasses.
Title: Re: just the 1 goal between Mitro; AK47 and Cav all season
Post by: Bassey the warrior on December 29, 2020, 04:08:25 PM
Yep and the 1 goal was a penalty. We've done well to avoid being cast adrift and we really need to get a goalscorer in early in the window to give ourselves the best chance of staying up.