Let's be honest, what did we expect out of the last 3 games, some good performances but not quite good enough. The next two we have to win, they are the games that mean the most we cannot continue to have good performances but no points to show for it, I believe we are capable of stringing some results together COYW!
Thread title says it all... agree
Absolutely. No good turning in good performances and not picking points up. Time to deliver in our big matches coming up.
Yep. I'm super nervous for both to be honest. Brighton look like a team with form players in, ready to work hard, be hard to break down and have goalscorers. Kind of like us but with ther ability and depth in the squad to score goals and change games.
We need Aston Villa to prevent Newcastle and Burnley getting to 20 points. If Burnley and Newcastle get 8 points ahead, they know a draw against us will keep them up. I don't want to play Burnley with them only needing a draw. Two of Newcastle, Burnley, Brighton, Fulham and WBA will go down.
Yep same for me. Both games are must wins.
Yes it has got to that stage now that we need to win both these matches. By the way has our imminently new striker reached Motspur Park yet.
I'm afraid if we don't beat these two in the next games,it will be goodnight...But you never know in football.
Quote from: FFC73 on January 20, 2021, 10:27:30 PM
Absolutely. No good turning in good performances and not picking points up. Time to deliver in our big matches coming up.
Agreed. No win in 8 league games now, the pressure to win increasing all the time.
Unfortunately it is crunch time. 4 points is a minimum. We have it in us to take 6 in style. Fail to win either and we will have to face the fact that it isn't happening, and that will be gutting with this lot.
We just have to win them both. Don't care how but we have to win at all costs.
Someone here slagged me off after Chelsea game saying these next 2 games are defining games and stand by that.
Good to see Mitro back on the pitch. Feel confident on replicating tonight's performance winning the next 3 including leciester at the cottage
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on January 20, 2021, 11:04:01 PM
Unfortunately it is crunch time. 4 points is a minimum. We have it in us to take 6 in style. Fail to win either and we will have to face the fact that it isn't happening, and that will be gutting with this lot.
winning in style would really send out a statement. But Right now I don't care. Playing well has seen us cut adrift, Ill happily take playing bad if we get a few wins
Quote from: fulhamben on January 20, 2021, 11:08:33 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on January 20, 2021, 11:04:01 PM
Unfortunately it is crunch time. 4 points is a minimum. We have it in us to take 6 in style. Fail to win either and we will have to face the fact that it isn't happening, and that will be gutting with this lot.
winning in style would really send out a statement. But Right now I don't care. Playing well has seen us cut adrift, Ill happily take playing bad if we get a few wins
Winning the Burnley way. It would be nice to sh*thouse a win, rather than constantly getting less than we deserve on the balance of play. If only our opponents would strangle our players for a red when dominating, or constantly miss against us...
I don't think these two are actually make or break, it would certainly be very problematic though. I would classify the WBA as must not lose. I think we will catch Newcastle - just need to stay ahead of WBA. Brighton will pull clear of the relegation picture I think, and could very well beat us - I think they're a level above us right now
Draws not enough, have to win both.
Substance over style.
Don't give two hoots "how" we play, as long as we bank the 3 points in each of those games.
Anything less than 4 points and we'll find ourselves struggling to keep up.
Yep!
It's put up or shut up time for FFC! Need 6 points from next two games. COYW!
I feel nervous about these games.
I think two wins might be difficult to achieve, and hate the term 'must wins,' and there are plenty of games after these, and i will never give up on the season while it is mathematically possible to stay up, whatever happens in the next two games.
I think we are 'too good to go down' except we will if we don't get the points on board!
But it would be a real shame for this team to be relegated, but we have to get some wins from somewhere.
Simply must win.
I fear Parker will come under a lot of fire if he's deemed too defensive and we draw.
Quote from: RaySmith on January 21, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
I think we are 'too good to go down'
We have to start facing reality! Can't continue the whole campaign hoping against hope that every team around us loses all of their games.
We won't be too good to go down if FFC draws or loses in either of these next two games. Simple as that. We've all seen the improvements in this team (mostly defensively) and some 'good' shows against top clubs, but it's now time to start producing three points v teams around us. If we can't do that, then FFC deserves what they end up getting......
Makes me nervous thinking about these 2 games. God I hope we get the points we need!
Let's just enjoy Liverpool ripping Burnley to shreds, Liverpool are due a big performance, let's hope its tonight.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 20, 2021, 10:56:49 PM
Yes it has got to that stage now that we need to win both these matches. By the way has our imminently new striker reached Motspur Park yet.
Yes but after failing the penalty test of converting 2 from 10 and also failing the shots on target test (from 20 yards) of 3 from 10, he has been signed for 30m as he was considered better than the players already on our books!
In our next three games we have a chance of doing two doubles this season.
Win away to Brighton , Beat WBA live on BBC1 on the Sunday and beat Leicester at home.
Sounds easy but we need to work our socks off to win these next three games.
Looking ahead at our remaining games I think if we can continue to play well, keep covid and injury free, either find a striker or the lads adopt a more attacking style, we can get somewhere between 23-29 points. With the 12 we have that's 35-41. We obviously need the likes of Burnley, Newcastle, West Brom, Brighton and Sheff U (possibly even Wolves) to keep losing or drawing. Got a feeling the safety bar is going to be 35 points this season. Goal difference might even play a part and currently we are looking okay there (incredible given our appalling start). We can do it, not something I could have said three months ago. 🙏
Quote from: WindyCity on January 21, 2021, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on January 21, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
I think we are 'too good to go down'
We have to start facing reality! Can't continue the whole campaign hoping against hope that every team around us loses all of their games.
We won't be too good to go down if FFC draws or loses in either of these next two games. Simple as that. We've all seen the improvements in this team (mostly defensively) and some 'good' shows against top clubs, but it's now time to start producing three points v teams around us. If we can't do that, then FFC deserves what they end up getting......
Surely you must have realised that this was ironic.
That's why i put in quotes, then followed it with - except we will if we don't get enough points.
because, of course, we will go down if we don't get enough points.
But to say the next two games we have to win - well, i think they will be difficult to win them both, so then what - do we just give up? Though obviously i hope we do win therm both.
I'm the one facing reality, and you're not, because we may well not win both the next two games, but we still have to keep going, though it will be tough.
But i will keep getting behind the team until it is mathematically impossible to stay up.
Yes two enormous games for us. The problem of course is that West Brom and Brighton will be thinking the same and both of them are capable of good performances and certainly capable of scoring more goals than us.
The most important thing is not to lose then take it from there. Winning both of course is the ideal.
Quote from: filham on January 21, 2021, 06:25:45 PM
Yes two enormous games for us. The problem of course is that West Brom and Brighton will be thinking the same and both of them are capable of good performances and certainly capable of scoring more goals than us.
And of course we shouldn't forget they are at home, tough 2 games!!
We need 6 points from the next three league games. Beat Brighton and WBA then I will not cry if we lose to Leicester but one way or another 6 pts is a must.
After watching the teams overall performances in our last three matches against 3 teams with aspirations to finish at least in the top 4, we do not need to fear anyone.
But then again I realised that I keep forgetting we do not have anyone who can find the back of the net regularly enough to score the goals we need to win these games.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 21, 2021, 08:27:54 PM
After watching the teams overall performances in our last three matches against 3 teams with aspirations to finish at least in the top 4, we do not need to fear anyone.
But then again I realised that I keep forgetting we do not have anyone who can find the back of the net regularly enough to score the goals we need to win these games.
It's ok WM...we have a world class Striker poised to join.....👍🤞⚽️
The worry I have and the reason I think these are must wins is because I think it's Newcastle we are chasing, I think Burnly and Brighton are going to pick up points more regular from now on in. We need a minimum of 23/24 points from our last 19 games. That's a big upturn from our 1st half season return. We are playing well and now need to start getting the points to show for it.
4 points would be a good outcome.
Quote from: Pieter A'dam on January 21, 2021, 08:58:54 PM
4 points would be a good outcome.
Not enough, we are beginning to be cut adrift
Brighton AND Burnley or bust.
Quote from: Tempest on January 21, 2021, 04:04:03 PM
Let's just enjoy Liverpool ripping Burnley to shreds, Liverpool are due a big performance, let's hope its tonight.
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Well that didn't go well did it?
No one has told the teams in our "bubble" that they should lie down & roll over simply because we are getting lots of plaudits for how we are playing @ present.
Sadly only 1 point out of a possible 9 is simply not good enough I'm afraid
We have to win the next 2 or even three games to start to climb back up the table & give ourselves half a chance to survive
Any less cuts us too far adrift
Come on Scotty time to ramp it up, fire up the team & get them scoring.
COYW!!
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 21, 2021, 08:34:06 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 21, 2021, 08:27:54 PM
After watching the teams overall performances in our last three matches against 3 teams with aspirations to finish at least in the top 4, we do not need to fear anyone.
But then again I realised that I keep forgetting we do not have anyone who can find the back of the net regularly enough to score the goals we need to win these games.
It's ok WM...we have a world class Striker poised to join.....👍🤞⚽️
Excellent I knew I was worrying unnecessarily.
Quote from: davew on January 21, 2021, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 20, 2021, 10:56:49 PM
Yes it has got to that stage now that we need to win both these matches. By the way has our imminently new striker reached Motspur Park yet.
Yes but after failing the penalty test of converting 2 from 10 and also failing the shots on target test (from 20 yards) of 3 from 10, he has been signed for 30m as he was considered better than the players already on our books!
Splendid but why was he walking with a limp when he arrived for his medical and then left the ground being carried out on a stretcher ?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 22, 2021, 12:17:27 AM
Quote from: davew on January 21, 2021, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 20, 2021, 10:56:49 PM
Yes it has got to that stage now that we need to win both these matches. By the way has our imminently new striker reached Motspur Park yet.
Yes but after failing the penalty test of converting 2 from 10 and also failing the shots on target test (from 20 yards) of 3 from 10, he has been signed for 30m as he was considered better than the players already on our books!
Splendid but why was he walking with a limp when he arrived for his medical and then left the ground being carried out on a stretcher ?
The medical is tough
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 22, 2021, 12:17:27 AM
Quote from: davew on January 21, 2021, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 20, 2021, 10:56:49 PM
Yes it has got to that stage now that we need to win both these matches. By the way has our imminently new striker reached Motspur Park yet.
Yes but after failing the penalty test of converting 2 from 10 and also failing the shots on target test (from 20 yards) of 3 from 10, he has been signed for 30m as he was considered better than the players already on our books!
Splendid but why was he walking with a limp when he arrived for his medical and then left the ground being carried out on a stretcher ?
I didn´t want to state that point, wouldn´t have looked good for our scouting staff.
Quote from: RaySmith on January 21, 2021, 04:58:53 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on January 21, 2021, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on January 21, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
I think we are 'too good to go down'
We have to start facing reality! Can't continue the whole campaign hoping against hope that every team around us loses all of their games. We won't be too good to go down if FFC draws or loses in either of these next two games. Simple as that. We've all seen the improvements in this team (mostly defensively) and some 'good' shows against top clubs, but it's now time to start producing three points v teams around us. If we can't do that, then FFC deserves what they end up getting......
Surely you must have realised that this was ironic. That's why i put in quotes, then followed it with - except we will if we don't get enough points. because, of course, we will go down if we don't get enough points.
But to say the next two games we have to win - well, i think they will be difficult to win them both, so then what - do we just give up? Though obviously i hope we do win therm both.
I'm the one facing reality, and you're not, because we may well not win both the next two games, but we still have to keep going, though it will be tough.
But i will keep getting behind the team until it is mathematically impossible to stay up.
Well my good friend, I am not a mind reader. You surely must know that sarcasm and irony is oft times hard to identify over a monitor. Were you just kidding when you said you were nervous about these games and hated the term 'must win'?
I am based in 'reality'. Quite simply, if FFC can't start recording some wins they will go down. As mentioned, we've seen substantial improvement (mostly defensive play) since the early games this season and the last time we were in the Prem, but most of that improvement has only produced one point or no points at all. I never suggested that if we don't win these next two games FFC will be relegated. I agree, still a lot of games yet to play, a half seasons' worth. But should the results be less than what I think we all can agree on what is needed, then it's hard for me to remark that FFC is too good to go down. It's even hard for me to accept that remark today, before these games have even been played. If we are left disappointed after these next two games, I too will continue to rally and hope and follow the team for a push to stay up. That never changes. COYW!
