Slow and predictable - sh*te final touch
Really believe he's better off the bench than starting
Selfish player and not hitting the target.
Slow and predictable? He's still the only player we've got who gets the ball out wide and create himself half a yard with his body movement. At least he looks like making stuff happen when he's got the ball, he's not meant to be Messi ffs.
Quote from: 3 Cherries on February 17, 2021, 07:56:04 PM
Slow and predictable - sh*te final touch
Give it up. Never a post about someone who has played well. Always a post slagging of a player.
Here we go.... :022:
One of his worst games so far. Also Areola had a bad night.
...and got kicked and pushed all night long.
Burnley defended well against him, gave him very little time & space.
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 17, 2021, 08:03:19 PM
Slow and predictable? He's still the only player we've got who gets the ball out wide and create himself half a yard with his body movement. At least he looks like making stuff happen when he's got the ball, he's not meant to be Messi ffs.
Well, he didn't show much of that tonight - why mention Messi ffs
Has he become the scape goat now then?
Was RLC before him, so its about time.
Hes not been the same since the penalty miss. Still wouldnt bench him given were low on other options, played well enough against Everton without setting the world alight....is trying too hard though, needs to keep it simple
By comparison I thought Cav had a decent cameo, but a few balls in the box. Lookman looks to be quite low on confidence at the moment and is taking too many touches, not releasing it or putting it into the area early enough.
lookman didnt have his best game ,but he wasnt poor and doesnt deserve a slagging.Agree cavaleiro made a difference as did Anguissa.
Yes he was poor.
Not his best game. Think he could use a bit of a rest, but don't see that happening without Parker promoting one of our young wingers to the first team with Mitro out.
I think Lookman deserves his starting spot for what he brings to the team, but it seems like he rarely has his shooting boots on. He's always missing high or wide, never testing the keeper. His dribbling boots seem to always to be on.
He was poor and has been poor for a while, looks like he has lost all confidence.
He has been saved from being slated due to RLC being the scapegoat.
Bad night but he's probably been our best attacking player this season so some of the comments here are pretty ridiculous.
He was shockingly awful tonight and it cost us 3 points. Cavaleiro needs to be starting... he may have some annoying qualities but he is a danger man and when you are as toothless as we are... dangerous players need to be on the pitch.
Why do we have to endure these threads week after week...
Awful is an overstatement but a typical response when things don't go our way. It was a tough match against an awkward opponent and came just three days after the Everton match in which the whole team gave everything. Not surprisingly some of our players weren't on top of their game, so overall it was disappointing but no need to single out Lookman.
Quote from: 3 Cherries on February 17, 2021, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 17, 2021, 08:03:19 PM
Slow and predictable? He's still the only player we've got who gets the ball out wide and create himself half a yard with his body movement. At least he looks like making stuff happen when he's got the ball, he's not meant to be Messi ffs.
Well, he didn't show much of that tonight - why mention Messi ffs
Because people like you come on here and start a thread calling a player awful and overrated and it seems like you expect him to be of that calibre without offering anything more than "Slow and predictable - sh*te final touch" which is A) not true, and B) a really bad and unsubstantiated take.
He plays for Fulham so consider our level, we don't have world class forwards in our team who are going to put in 10/10 performances every week, most teams double up on him now because he was running teams ragged early in the season, look at Everton for a prime example of a team that gave him time and space to show his quality. Suppose both goals in that game came from build up down the left in spite of him being "slow and predictable" then??
This thread is a joke.
I agree with the sentiments that he's had a good season and he's entitled to an off game but IMO:
Lookman's issue is that he never takes the first, nay even the second and sometimes even third option. He holds the ball too long and allows the defence the opportunity to either double team him or block off any potential overlaps or crosses.
The beauty of our first goal against Everton is that Lookman played the ball in for Aina on the overlap straight away, which allowed an easier cross. Think of how many times Robinson has bust a gut to make an overlapping run to be ignored by Mola.
He needs to play with his head up more and be encouraged to play at a higher tempo.
Poor game today but he's not a robot - everyone has bad days. He's turned up for big games for us during the season - one bad game doesn't change the fact that he's been a quality asset for us so far this season.
Quote from: The Old Count on February 17, 2021, 08:04:15 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on February 17, 2021, 07:56:04 PM
Slow and predictable - sh*te final touch
Give it up. Never a post about someone who has played well. Always a post slagging of a player.
Agreed - why do we always have to slag off a player. Maybe his opponent had a good gamem maybe he was carrying a knock. He probably knows he wasn't too good today but he continued to work hard
He was not awful. Not his best game but Burnley did their homework. He is a great talent
Give the guy a break, he is very good and other teams know it and if you watch when gets the ball in their half at least 2 men are on him restricting his options.
Lookman is our most creative player and he looked tired and made bad decisions throughout the game.In fact virtually the whole team looked tired, that is why there were so many individual mistakes and misdugements.
Worse of all was the defending after we scored.
But some dreadful performances today: RLC was awful, Lemina terrible, Tosin his worst game to date,even Cav managed to look a bit better than some of these but it was a dumb sub taking Bobby off, he can actually hit the target. Cav did put in a cross, why has it taken him all this time to do that ?
Burnley kicked everyone off the park. He needs a break and should start from the bench next game.
Quote from: 3 Cherries on February 17, 2021, 07:56:04 PM
Slow and predictable - sh*te final touch
You were on the match day thread declaring we were sh1te, could have been 3 or 4 down by half time etc etc. Talk about exaggeration, sorry can't take this thread seriously.
Rumors indicate that Lookman and Anguissa both got covid, an illness that frequently kills unhealthy people and/or reduces elite athletes' performance. It seems a little harsh saying they are rubbish 6-8 weeks after they caught covid, as they probably not back to full fitness yet, and will improve for a few months still. Fulham and all its players have done well this year, we need to keep on improving and one day we will come 17th in the Premier League.
He had a poor game by his standards and does not help himself by taking on one too many players instead of passing. However, this is a Burnley team that stifle you by closing down very quickly, they worked very hard off the ball which gave Fulham no space or time on the ball.
Lookman will come good again, he is so capable of opening up defences, but against Burnley it was never going to be easy, so slagging off Lookman is harsh, in fact slagging off any player is harsh after we have gained a valuable point at a ground we generally come away empty handed is a plus even though we could not reach the heights of Sunday, at the end of the day we had to grind out a result and we did because Fulham are no longer a pushover.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 18, 2021, 04:17:16 AM
He had a poor game by his standards and does not help himself by taking on one too many players instead of passing. However, this is a Burnley team that stifle you by closing down very quickly, they worked very hard off the ball which gave Fulham no space or time on the ball.
Lookman will come good again, he is so capable of opening up defences, but against Burnley it was never going to be easy, so slagging off Lookman is harsh, in fact slagging off any player is harsh after we have gained a valuable point at a ground we generally come away empty handed is a plus even though we could not reach the heights of Sunday, at the end of the day we had to grind out a result and we did because Fulham are no longer a pushover.
Well said, Wolly. Agree 100%. Very tough match for him, and while frustrating at times, he did well. If we don't move the ball fast enough, Burnley will regain shape and are extremely tough with their pressing. We trapped ourselves too many times. I think the sub of Zambo for Lemina was key, along with the switch of BDR going out right, while RLC slotted behind Maja. Good things overall - shame both Maja and Lookman couldn't convert their chances, but not dire by any means.
That's the vital thing Woolly - Fulham are no longer a pushover
Really don`t believe this post, the bloke has consistently been our most effective attacking player, the problem is we haven`t got adequate cover so he is having to play every game! give us all a break
Can we rename the thread to RLC is consistently our worst player.
Quote from: Texas White on February 17, 2021, 10:27:52 PM
Burnley kicked everyone off the park. He needs a break and should start from the bench next game.
:wow: That's some exaggeration!
I actually thought Lookman was better defensively this game. He tracked back way more and really sprinted towards cleared balls to try and push us up but his final ball has been lacking of late. I wonder sometimes whether he didn't cross the ball when cutting in out of instruction due to only really Maja being in the box. It was weird how many times we got to a crossing position and just didn't.
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 17, 2021, 08:03:19 PM
Slow and predictable? He's still the only player we've got who gets the ball out wide and create himself half a yard with his body movement. At least he looks like making stuff happen when he's got the ball, he's not meant to be Messi ffs.
+1
Quote from: bog on February 18, 2021, 01:30:23 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 17, 2021, 08:03:19 PM
Slow and predictable? He's still the only player we've got who gets the ball out wide and create himself half a yard with his body movement. At least he looks like making stuff happen when he's got the ball, he's not meant to be Messi ffs.
+1
:plus one:
3 Cherries is a Bournemouth fan, I think.
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on February 18, 2021, 01:47:50 PM
3 Cherries is a Bournemouth fan, I think.
Surely not. Thought there was only two of them.
My response to this entire subject line:
Negative Ghost Rider. The pattern is full.
Not seen much from this poster in the past. Is he just a WUM?
Quote from: Twig on February 18, 2021, 07:50:22 PM
Not seen much from this poster in the past. Is he just a WUM?
Good evening Gentleman Jim - I'm still around - bemused at everybody's holier than thou defence of a very poor performance by Lookman and somehow equating my post to something like a Lynching?? I say it as it is - simple - and I respect different opinions as this is a forum for debate and discussion - bit low to be called a Bournemouth fan - (...3 cherries is a win on a vintage fruit machine)
Its worse when fully grown men scream expletives at our own players at the cottage (actually its embarrassing) - if he plays well on Saturday I'll be as pleased as punch
Not his best game but still a threat, thought passing across the team was poor, either hit too long or short.
WE like to crucify our own players, with ridiculous, over the top language, if they make any errors at all.
Lookman is a hostage to fortune - he takes people on and therefore can cause havoc - but equally he can always lose it and the attack break down . Any player that can get you off your seat can also frustrate you. Not his best night- but his bravery will pay off. Get behind the man.
the WHOLE team was awful, the tactics were elementary, pass from right to left and then to Lookman, repeat. Burnley saw it and stopped it.
But forget about the team or tactics, lets just focus on 1 player.... lame as can be.
Football is not as cut and dry as some people make out. A few of the Burnley chances may not have counted due to the off side laws. We were deliberately playing for that any way. The other thing is tiredness. You cannot play at the level we played at against Everton every 3 days. Players will look off colour. Our position in the table makes things look a lot worse than they are. A point at Burnley is a good result. From a managers point of view Scotty knew that substitutions would be needed when he picked the team. He probably knew who they would be as well. Some players out there would have been carrying knocks and pulls so it is wrong to expect 100% from everyone every time
