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Title: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Friendsoffulham on May 21, 2021, 03:23:46 PM
The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

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And why not...

We're already relegated, so plans must be underway to prepare for the 2021/22 season back in the Championship, so let's open The Official Silly Season Transfer Thread 2021/22.

Hopefully we retain a lot of our good players, but, feel there may be a few comings and goings over this summer, so, if you come across any transfer rumors, true of false, let us know below.

#FFC #FULHAMFC 

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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Friendsoffulham on May 21, 2021, 03:27:11 PM
West Ham and Fulham show interest in Rovers striker Adam Armstrong

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Rovers face a fight to keep holding of top scorer Adam Armstrong as West Ham and Fulham step-up their pursuit of the striker.

West Ham are long-term admirers of Armstrong, and are set to be in the market for a striker this summer, while Fulham will be keen to make a quick return to the flight and struggled for goals all season.

That has led to interest in Armstrong, with the future of their star striker, Aleksandar Mitrovic, less than certain.

The Lancashire Telegraph understands that both clubs will consider bids during the close season, while Brighton and Everton are also monitoring the situation with the 24-year-old.

It is understood that sides will need to stump up at least £20m to prise Armstrong away from Rovers after a goal-laden season that saw only former Newcastle team-mate Ivan Toney, now with Brentford, outscore him.

Armstrong has a year left on his contract after signing from Newcastle United in 2018, but Rovers haven’t given up hope of the striker extending his stay beyond next summer, and will make a final push to try and keep hold of their star man who scored 28 Championship goals last season.

His former club, Newcastle, have a 40 per cent sell-on clause in any possible sale, and that could see them make a move for the striker who has also spent time on loan at Coventry City and Barnsley.

Armstrong has played 160 times for Rovers since signing on loan in January 2018, scoring 64 times. Forty of those have come since the start of 2020, with Armstrong netting three hat-tricks, including successive ones at Ewood Park in big wins over Huddersfield Town and Birmingham City to close out the campaign.

Manager Tony Mowbray says after the final day win that transfer interest in Armstrong this summer would be understandable and inevitable.

“That’s fine, so they should, they’re not doing their job if they’re not looking at Adam Armstrong,” Mowbray said.

“That’s out of my control. For Adam’s sake let’s hope the phone rings and someone offers us a ridiculous amount of money, we shake him by the hand and we say go and bang in loads of goals in the Premier League and we’ll use some of that money in the team and can find another striker who can bang loads of goals in.

“That’s football, that’s happened since the game started. He’s shown what a talent he is.

“Let’s keep rolling, see what the summer brings for Adam and the team.”

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19318042.west-ham-fulham-show-interest-rovers-striker-adam-armstrong/
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JoeS on May 21, 2021, 03:52:05 PM
Rumours I've seen so far:
- Adam Armstrong (striker)
- Ike Ugbo (striker)
- Taiwo Awoniyi (forward)
- Siriki Dembele (winger)
- Johnny Russell (forward)
- Yannick Bolasie (winger)
- Kean Bryan (centre-back)
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Twig on May 21, 2021, 05:37:05 PM
We should open this thread on Sept 1st. No chance of anything before then.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Porthogs FC on May 21, 2021, 07:23:48 PM
We should open this thread on Sept 1st. No chance of anything before then.
This is the silly one. No need to make it too realistic or serious
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rebel on May 21, 2021, 07:41:29 PM
Ramsdale has been excellent for Sheff Utd.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Arthur on May 21, 2021, 09:02:58 PM
So our first target in a window where there is, according to some, no reason nor excuse for us not to do our transfer business early is also coveted by West Ham, with Everton and Brighton showing interest. Unlikely, therefore, the player will be desperate to sign for us at the moment. If so, does this mean we strike him off our list already and pursue our second-choice target? And does this not suggest that signing the players we would like is not as simple as going shopping at the supermarket?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HobGoblin on May 21, 2021, 09:59:57 PM
Can a manger be added to potentials also?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on May 21, 2021, 10:03:22 PM
The big issue is going to be Mitro , do we sell him or replace him first.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Matt10 on May 21, 2021, 10:32:49 PM
I would scout heavily in Germany right now. The modern game is the Bundesliga way. We saw it in the premier league with multiple wingback systems, and Parker even used it. If he stays with us, he and TK need to prepare us for the prem again by signing quality, goal-scoring, 1.Bundesliga 1 and 2.Bundesliga, prospects.

Taking a look at the 2.Bundesliga alone, several players in their prime have scored 5+ goals this year, and come from some form of a U19 big club like Dortmund, even Schalke before their relegation.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Fernhurst on May 21, 2021, 10:55:07 PM
So our first target in a window where there is, according to some, no reason nor excuse for us not to do our transfer business early is also coveted by West Ham, with Everton and Brighton showing interest. Unlikely, therefore, the player will be desperate to sign for us at the moment. If so, does this mean we strike him off our list already and pursue our second-choice target? And does this not suggest that signing the players we would like is not as simple as going shopping at the supermarket?

So right Arthur:
So many fans can just not understand the way of the modern transfer market. The most obstructive being agents, holding out to the very last minute to obtain the most lucrative deal for their
Client 
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Craven Mad on May 21, 2021, 11:01:09 PM
Daryl Dike - an American scoring goals for fun in the Championship. It’d be a match made in heaven.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: cookieg on May 22, 2021, 12:06:52 AM
The big issue is going to be Mitro , do we sell him or replace him first.

Buy a replacement first then we will see who wants him.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Texas White on May 22, 2021, 01:03:59 AM
I don’t get the Mitro love in. He has not seemed bothered this year. Rumors he asked for transfers twice, time to move on. Breaking up can be hard, but you just got to do it.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 22, 2021, 08:07:41 AM
The big issue is going to be Mitro , do we sell him or replace him first.

We keep Mitrovic for the first half of the season minimum and ïn addition on deadline day bring in a ¨Loan with option¨. We can then see where we are in mid-season, the market price of Mitrovic, whether we buy the loan player, and other options in the market. David Levy will be holding out for an incredible dealon Kane, we should do the same.

Don't rush to sell Mitro (great yo-yo player), his value will increase next season in the championship. Sell him when his value is high, and we have at least one other striker integrated into the team scoring goals.

We only have two years of parchuate payments left, if we replace Mitrovic with a quality centre forward it will have to be a loan player or using the money that we get for Mitrovic. I'd want more for Mitro than we paid for Cav and Reid combined (which is unlikely to happen). Frankly, I don't care if Mitro wants to stay, we should keep him regardless.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on May 22, 2021, 10:32:44 AM
Jose interested in Mitro

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/14997895/jose-mourinho-aleksandar-mitrovic-roma-fulham/
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Craven Mad on May 22, 2021, 10:41:22 AM
Jose interested in Mitro

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/14997895/jose-mourinho-aleksandar-mitrovic-roma-fulham/

Could see Mitro doing well in Serie A. Hope it’s not true though.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Twig on May 22, 2021, 11:26:56 AM
We should open this thread on Sept 1st. No chance of anything before then.
This is the silly one. No need to make it too realistic or serious

Ah, yes sorry I was forgetting myself.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: PaulJ123 on May 22, 2021, 12:32:14 PM
Just been reading about Alex Pritchard being released. I always thought he looked a decent player and would surely be a decent option on the bench for us given our lack of attacking talent?

Will get shot down as he hasn’t had the best of times at Huddersfield but who has recently.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on May 22, 2021, 01:55:01 PM
Just been reading about Alex Pritchard being released. I always thought he looked a decent player and would surely be a decent option on the bench for us given our lack of attacking talent?

Will get shot down as he hasn’t had the best of times at Huddersfield but who has recently.

We have enough bench warmers already so no need to sign another one.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on May 22, 2021, 02:04:05 PM
Just been reading about Alex Pritchard being released. I always thought he looked a decent player and would surely be a decent option on the bench for us given our lack of attacking talent?

Will get shot down as he hasn’t had the best of times at Huddersfield but who has recently.

We have enough bench warmers already so no need to sign another one.

He is not a centre half so no room for him
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on May 22, 2021, 03:06:48 PM
Just been reading about Alex Pritchard being released. I always thought he looked a decent player and would surely be a decent option on the bench for us given our lack of attacking talent?

Will get shot down as he hasn’t had the best of times at Huddersfield but who has recently.

We have enough bench warmers already so no need to sign another one.
Ex bang average Spurs youngster so he'll be signed up.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 24, 2021, 06:04:14 PM
An in-depth look at the Summer Transfer Window, and also discussing Scott Parker's future.
https://t.co/9er6ccqM7Y?amp=1
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: SP on May 24, 2021, 07:21:44 PM
Just been reading about Alex Pritchard being released. I always thought he looked a decent player and would surely be a decent option on the bench for us given our lack of attacking talent?

Will get shot down as he hasn’t had the best of times at Huddersfield but who has recently.

We have enough bench warmers already so no need to sign another one.
Ex bang average Spurs youngster so he'll be signed up.

And nursing a long term injury no doubt....
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: South Coast White on May 24, 2021, 07:29:22 PM
We're probably end up with Billy Sharp, we'll he's been everywhere else and scores the odd goal which is a bonus on this season.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on May 25, 2021, 04:09:37 PM
Norwich looking at Tosin per skysports news
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on May 25, 2021, 04:25:51 PM
Norwich looking at Tosin per skysports news

We should be putting a £25 million price tag on him, same as what Everton paid for Godfrey. He's just as good in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: LC on May 25, 2021, 04:41:04 PM
Norwich looking at Tosin per skysports news

We should be putting a £25 million price tag on him, same as what Everton paid for Godfrey. He's just as good in my opinion.

The price tag should be £0 because he’s not for sale. Disgrace if he leaves.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 25, 2021, 04:45:23 PM
An in-depth look at the Summer Transfer Window, and also discussing Scott Parker's future.
https://t.co/9er6ccqM7Y?amp=1

Some honourable mentions are Rob Dickie, Krystian Bielik (who has Tony Khan written all over), Frank Onyeka, Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, Jakub Kaminski, Siriki Dembele and Vedat Muriqi.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Asotosyios on May 27, 2021, 10:30:22 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jims Dentist on May 27, 2021, 11:45:12 PM
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May not be a popular view, but anything north of £6m I would take it.
Doubt that Sheff U would bid  that much though.

I believe TC is a Yorkie though, perhaps a conversation has already been had.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on May 28, 2021, 06:56:26 AM
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May not be a popular view, but anything north of £6m I would take it.
Doubt that Sheff U would bid  that much though.

I believe TC is a Yorkie though, perhaps a conversation has already been had.

He's not a Yorkie, he grew up in Nottingham and was rejected by Leeds as a youngster.
I have a feeling the club would accept a decent bid because of his injury problems. If he leaves, that's the team's identity dead and buried.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on May 28, 2021, 08:06:51 AM
An in-depth look at the Summer Transfer Window, and also discussing Scott Parker's future.
https://t.co/9er6ccqM7Y?amp=1

Thanks for this extensive & fascinating scan around European football for some likely lads
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on May 28, 2021, 10:03:47 AM
So if Cairney was to leave who becomes our playmaker next season . In fact our midfild could need a complete rebuild.
No K Mac, Stefjo at QPR, Anguissa off, Lemina away.

Essential we hang on to Reed and then maybe make an attemt to Keep Lemina.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on May 28, 2021, 10:08:33 AM
So if Cairney was to leave who becomes our playmaker next season . In fact our midfild could need a complete rebuild.
No K Mac, Stefjo at QPR, Anguissa off, Lemina away.

Essential we hang on to Reed and then maybe make an attemt to Keep Lemina.

Seri could play the role, I'd keep Johansen as well.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Twig on May 28, 2021, 11:10:57 AM
So if Cairney was to leave who becomes our playmaker next season . In fact our midfild could need a complete rebuild.
No K Mac, Stefjo at QPR, Anguissa off, Lemina away.

Essential we hang on to Reed and then maybe make an attemt to Keep Lemina.

Seri could play the role, I'd keep Johansen as well.

I’ve yet to see Seri show anything to suggest he’s a playmaker and  Stef Jo isn’t either. We would need a new signing and might well struggle to do better than a fully fit TC. Of course, if TC can’t get fit then imo we’d have no option but to look to sign someone. The absence of a TC type really blunted us this season
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Lordedmundo on May 28, 2021, 12:00:28 PM
So if Cairney was to leave who becomes our playmaker next season . In fact our midfild could need a complete rebuild.
No K Mac, Stefjo at QPR, Anguissa off, Lemina away.

Essential we hang on to Reed and then maybe make an attemt to Keep Lemina.

Seri could play the role, I'd keep Johansen as well.

I’ve yet to see Seri show anything to suggest he’s a playmaker and  Stef Jo isn’t either. We would need a new signing and might well struggle to do better than a fully fit TC. Of course, if TC can’t get fit then imo we’d have no option but to look to sign someone. The absence of a TC type really blunted us this season

If we sell Cairney then we will need two playmakers (one as back up). I would say that such players are extremely hard to come by. So no we should not sell Cairney!

Aside from the first 3-4 games when he was playing in the sunshine - Seri has shown absolutely nothing in a Fulham (or any other) shirt to suggest he will be in any way shape or form ready,willing or able to be a first teamer for us next season.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Matt10 on May 28, 2021, 01:39:34 PM
So if Cairney was to leave who becomes our playmaker next season . In fact our midfild could need a complete rebuild.
No K Mac, Stefjo at QPR, Anguissa off, Lemina away.

Essential we hang on to Reed and then maybe make an attemt to Keep Lemina.

Seri could play the role, I'd keep Johansen as well.

I’ve yet to see Seri show anything to suggest he’s a playmaker and  Stef Jo isn’t either. We would need a new signing and might well struggle to do better than a fully fit TC. Of course, if TC can’t get fit then imo we’d have no option but to look to sign someone. The absence of a TC type really blunted us this season

If we sell Cairney then we will need two playmakers (one as back up). I would say that such players are extremely hard to come by. So no we should not sell Cairney!

Aside from the first 3-4 games when he was playing in the sunshine - Seri has shown absolutely nothing in a Fulham (or any other) shirt to suggest he will be in any way shape or form ready,willing or able to be a first teamer for us next season.

Agreed. Cairney may be injury prone, but there really aren't many players like him. StefJo type of players are even more rare. I can't think of a current modern day player who plays like StefJo.

Cairney's possession in the middle of the pitch is what keeps the balance of attack going, and allows freedom to build in those crucial attacking thirds. It's not a coincidence that we lost the sharpness there when he left. RLC was supposed to be the next reliable one here, but his first touch was not consistent, and his power dribbles forward rarely led to direct chances.

I think we could be in a bad spot if we sell Cairney and StefJo. Hopefully the scouts are keeping an eye on some actually proven playmakers that can either sit in the regista spot or be a classic number 10.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on May 28, 2021, 06:08:25 PM
I think Seri made it clear two seasons ago that he was not prepared to drop down to Championship level so without a fit Cairney we are without a playmaker and finding a replacement is not going to be easy.

Bring back Roberts, I always felt that he would develop into that position or even Cauley Woodrow, Some lateral thinking is required.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sunburywhite on May 28, 2021, 07:06:06 PM
Thats the big problem we had this year, no decent palymaker able to dominate a game
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on May 28, 2021, 07:08:31 PM
I think Seri made it clear two seasons ago that he was not prepared to drop down to Championship level so without a fit Cairney we are without a playmaker and finding a replacement is not going to be easy.

Bring back Roberts, I always felt that he would develop into that position or even Cauley Woodrow, Some lateral thinking is required.

Carvalho? appreciate thats a punt but I'd love for him to come good in that positon
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: vancouver on May 28, 2021, 07:45:29 PM
We need another signing like when we first signed Cairney. A young english midfielder with some flair and attacking prowess. We know tom cant cut it at the PL level and he's getting older/injury prone. Perfect departure for us as long as we recruit an adequate young replacement. May i suggest Styles from Barnsley. Would be a cracking signing.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Arthur on May 28, 2021, 08:32:34 PM
We need another signing like when we first signed Cairney. A young english midfielder with some flair and attacking prowess. We know tom cant cut it at the PL level and he's getting older/injury prone. Perfect departure for us as long as we recruit an adequate young replacement. May i suggest Styles from Barnsley. Would be a cracking signing.

A good suggestion.

Having reached the play-offs, however, Barnsley will, I'm sure, be aiming to repeat that feat next season. As such, I think we'll need to offer, what would be for us, something of a 'king's ransom' in order to persuade The Tykes to sell. And even then, it wouldn't surprise me were there to be interest from at least one Premier League club - which, of course, will certainly be the preferred destination of the selling club and, very likely, of the player himself.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on May 28, 2021, 08:55:22 PM
I think Seri made it clear two seasons ago that he was not prepared to drop down to Championship level so without a fit Cairney we are without a playmaker and finding a replacement is not going to be easy.

Bring back Roberts, I always felt that he would develop into that position or even Cauley Woodrow, Some lateral thinking is required.

Carvalho? appreciate thats a punt but I'd love for him to come good in that positon

Carvalho deserves a chance.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Matt10 on May 28, 2021, 09:10:58 PM
We need another signing like when we first signed Cairney. A young english midfielder with some flair and attacking prowess. We know tom cant cut it at the PL level and he's getting older/injury prone. Perfect departure for us as long as we recruit an adequate young replacement. May i suggest Styles from Barnsley. Would be a cracking signing.

A good suggestion.

Having reached the play-offs, however, Barnsley will, I'm sure, be aiming to repeat that feat next season. As such, I think we'll need to offer, what would be for us, something of a 'king's ransom' in order to persuade The Tykes to sell. And even then, it wouldn't surprise me were there to be interest from at least one Premier League club - which, of course, will certainly be the preferred destination of the selling club and, very likely, of the player himself.

Yeah, great shout, but I'm afraid he'll be PL bound.

After that, I am not sure who else is out there that could do the job. In Parker's system we know it's not just about attacking prowess though, so chances are someone who can defend just as well as they can attack. Personally, and I go this route a lot, but someone from the Bundesliga would suit this model as that league is geared for high pressure, and players are all required to be attackers and defenders.

Knowing us though, we'll probably find some unproven Ligue 1 player. Not sure I can stomach that again to be perfectly honest.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JackHamlet90 on May 29, 2021, 07:24:06 AM
We should not sell Cairney he will be vital next season but if we do for whatever reason maybe someone like Hourihane could come in plus we have Carvalho
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on May 29, 2021, 08:43:04 AM
A lot of people getting their knickers in a twist about either Mitro or Cairney joining Sheff Utd, well I'll make a prediction now that will have those people blubbering if it does happen,
Ryan Sessegnon to Utd on a one year loan with an option to buy, far more likely to happen than either of the other two,
Watch this space.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on May 29, 2021, 09:18:18 AM
A lot of people getting their knickers in a twist about either Mitro or Cairney joining Sheff Utd, well I'll make a prediction now that will have those people blubbering if it does happen,
Ryan Sessegnon to Utd on a one year loan with an option to buy, far more likely to happen than either of the other two,
Watch this space.

Sess has had a successful loan in the Bundesliga so wouldn't accept a drop down a division.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on May 29, 2021, 11:14:45 AM
A lot of people getting their knickers in a twist about either Mitro or Cairney joining Sheff Utd, well I'll make a prediction now that will have those people blubbering if it does happen,
Ryan Sessegnon to Utd on a one year loan with an option to buy, far more likely to happen than either of the other two,
Watch this space.

Sess has had a successful loan in the Bundesliga so wouldn't accept a drop down a division.
Not sure how you are defining successful  ?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on May 29, 2021, 11:25:52 AM
A lot of people getting their knickers in a twist about either Mitro or Cairney joining Sheff Utd, well I'll make a prediction now that will have those people blubbering if it does happen,
Ryan Sessegnon to Utd on a one year loan with an option to buy, far more likely to happen than either of the other two,
Watch this space.

Sess has had a successful loan in the Bundesliga so wouldn't accept a drop down a division.
Not sure how you are defining successful  ?

Played 28 games and likely would've played more but he missed 8 games with injury. 2 goals and 3 assists despite mainly playing left back.

He's had a taste of top league football and isn't likely to drop down to a second division level.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on May 29, 2021, 11:33:54 AM
A lot of people getting their knickers in a twist about either Mitro or Cairney joining Sheff Utd, well I'll make a prediction now that will have those people blubbering if it does happen,
Ryan Sessegnon to Utd on a one year loan with an option to buy, far more likely to happen than either of the other two,
Watch this space.

Sess has had a successful loan in the Bundesliga so wouldn't accept a drop down a division.
Not sure how you are defining successful  ?

Played 28 games and likely would've played more but he missed 8 games with injury. 2 goals and 3 assists despite mainly playing left back.

He's had a taste of top league football and isn't likely to drop down to a second division level.
Oh ok, to me successful would have meant Spurs welcoming him back with open arms to play in The Premier League which I can't see happening,  unless Norwich,  Watford or Palace fancy him on loan I believe there is every chance he will be playing in The Championship next season which wouldn't be a bad idea for him.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 29, 2021, 12:44:44 PM
We need another signing like when we first signed Cairney. A young english midfielder with some flair and attacking prowess. We know tom cant cut it at the PL level and he's getting older/injury prone. Perfect departure for us as long as we recruit an adequate young replacement. May i suggest Styles from Barnsley. Would be a cracking signing.

Agreed, he is quality and can only get better.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on May 29, 2021, 09:53:58 PM
It's been reported on twitter that Daryl Dike might be sold to Fulham. If true, I'm guessing Mitrovic will be sold.

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on May 29, 2021, 10:08:04 PM
A lot of people getting their knickers in a twist about either Mitro or Cairney joining Sheff Utd, well I'll make a prediction now that will have those people blubbering if it does happen,
Ryan Sessegnon to Utd on a one year loan with an option to buy, far more likely to happen than either of the other two,
Watch this space.

Sess has had a successful loan in the Bundesliga so wouldn't accept a drop down a division.
Not sure how you are defining successful  ?

Played 28 games and likely would've played more but he missed 8 games with injury. 2 goals and 3 assists despite mainly playing left back.

He's had a taste of top league football and isn't likely to drop down to a second division level.
Oh ok, to me successful would have meant Spurs welcoming him back with open arms to play in The Premier League which I can't see happening,  unless Norwich,  Watford or Palace fancy him on loan I believe there is every chance he will be playing in The Championship next season which wouldn't be a bad idea for him.

I'm sure he'll get many offers on loan.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sarnian on May 29, 2021, 10:49:20 PM
It's been reported on twitter that Daryl Dike might be sold to Fulham. If true, I'm guessing Mitrovic will be sold.



Hope not. Watched him in the playoffs and seems to have an attitude problem, lucky not to have been sent off first leg and only used as sub second leg.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: BarryP on May 30, 2021, 12:27:43 AM
It's been reported on twitter that Daryl Dike might be sold to Fulham. If true, I'm guessing Mitrovic will be sold.



Hope not. Watched him in the playoffs and seems to have an attitude problem, lucky not to have been sent off first leg and only used as sub second leg.

I’ve only ever heard positive things about Dike’s attitude from his manager, coaches and teammates.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on May 30, 2021, 01:09:23 AM
It's been reported on twitter that Daryl Dike might be sold to Fulham. If true, I'm guessing Mitrovic will be sold.



Hope not. Watched him in the playoffs and seems to have an attitude problem, lucky not to have been sent off first leg and only used as sub second leg.

He definitely doesn’t have an attitude problem. Smart, hard working player.

The guy tweeting this works for Orlando City who owns Dike. So interesting. Dike is a poor man’s Lukaku. Not a technical player , but strong and fast for his big size, and has natural goal scoring instincts.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/a-move-that-would-make-perfect-sense-fulham-eye-deal-for-powerful-forward-the-verdict/
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sarnian on May 30, 2021, 04:14:35 AM
So
It's been reported on twitter that Daryl Dike might be sold to Fulham. If true, I'm guessing Mitrovic will be sold.



Hope not. Watched him in the playoffs and seems to have an attitude problem, lucky not to have been sent off first leg and only used as sub second leg.

He definitely doesn’t have an attitude problem. Smart, hard working player.

The guy tweeting this works for Orlando City who owns Dike. So interesting. Dike is a poor man’s Lukaku. Not a technical player , but strong and fast for his big size, and has natural goal scoring instincts.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/a-move-that-would-make-perfect-sense-fulham-eye-deal-for-powerful-forward-the-verdict/

So you listen to Dikes agent and believe him. I watched him play in those playoff semi finals and listened to what the pundits said about him being dropped for the second leg because of his actions and attitude in the first leg game.

If Lookman and Loftus Cheek’s agents and owning clubs came on here praising both for their goal scoring potential, workrate and commitment to fighting for the cause who would you believe?.  There agents or your own eyes after watching 30 odd turgid performances this last season from both.  Enough said I believe.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on May 30, 2021, 02:54:23 PM
So
It's been reported on twitter that Daryl Dike might be sold to Fulham. If true, I'm guessing Mitrovic will be sold.



Hope not. Watched him in the playoffs and seems to have an attitude problem, lucky not to have been sent off first leg and only used as sub second leg.

He definitely doesn’t have an attitude problem. Smart, hard working player.

The guy tweeting this works for Orlando City who owns Dike. So interesting. Dike is a poor man’s Lukaku. Not a technical player , but strong and fast for his big size, and has natural goal scoring instincts.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/a-move-that-would-make-perfect-sense-fulham-eye-deal-for-powerful-forward-the-verdict/

So you listen to Dikes agent and believe him. I watched him play in those playoff semi finals and listened to what the pundits said about him being dropped for the second leg because of his actions and attitude in the first leg game.

If Lookman and Loftus Cheek’s agents and owning clubs came on here praising both for their goal scoring potential, workrate and commitment to fighting for the cause who would you believe?.  There agents or your own eyes after watching 30 odd turgid performances this last season from both.  Enough said I believe.

No, the guy talking about this on twitter is not his agent, but is an American-Brazilian soccer personality on twitter who also coaches at Orlando City who Dike plays for. More power to you for believing the word of commentators for one playoff game. If that is how you scout players, you do you. However, over a young career, he's known in American football circles for being smart, coachable, and hard working.  Dude totally transformed Barnsley after the winter break, which got them into the playoffs in the first place.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: BarryP on May 30, 2021, 03:49:50 PM
So
It's been reported on twitter that Daryl Dike might be sold to Fulham. If true, I'm guessing Mitrovic will be sold.



Hope not. Watched him in the playoffs and seems to have an attitude problem, lucky not to have been sent off first leg and only used as sub second leg.

He definitely doesn’t have an attitude problem. Smart, hard working player.

The guy tweeting this works for Orlando City who owns Dike. So interesting. Dike is a poor man’s Lukaku. Not a technical player , but strong and fast for his big size, and has natural goal scoring instincts.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/a-move-that-would-make-perfect-sense-fulham-eye-deal-for-powerful-forward-the-verdict/

So you listen to Dikes agent and believe him. I watched him play in those playoff semi finals and listened to what the pundits said about him being dropped for the second leg because of his actions and attitude in the first leg game.

If Lookman and Loftus Cheek’s agents and owning clubs came on here praising both for their goal scoring potential, workrate and commitment to fighting for the cause who would you believe?.  There agents or your own eyes after watching 30 odd turgid performances this last season from both.  Enough said I believe.

If you listen to pundits you would believe RLC was one Fulham’s top performers this season. Lyle is correct that Dike is well known for his coachability and work ethic. Here is what one of his Barnsley teammates had to say about him.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/how-daryl-dike-made-a-lasting-impression-at-barnsley-3253369

By the way, I watched the playoff matches too and heard the Barnsley fans singing to Dike during the home match. Tells me a lot that the fans had a song for a guy on a half season loan deal.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Matt10 on May 30, 2021, 10:25:59 PM
I'd really like Dike. Watched him play for Orlando as well. He's made the step up, and we need to take advantage of the momentum. Hopefully Jedi and Ream are talking up Fulham to him.

A lot of quality players in the Blackpool v Lincoln City side. Kenny Dougal is someone I've been watching for a while. He's got the vision and can strike the ball (two goals today of course), always popping up in the right spot. Think he'd be an excellent signing. Of course, tough to persuade, but still worth a punt.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: LC on May 30, 2021, 11:48:40 PM
Apparently Famara Diédhiou is a free agent this summer. Would you take him as a back-up striker?

Jordan Shipley is also apparently on a free transfer, been promoted in league two and one and just had a season in the championship, young guy, might not be a bad squad player to have around if we have no budget.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on May 31, 2021, 12:08:26 AM
Dike looks pretty cumbersome to me to be honest,looks a long  way off prem quality and a pretty standard mid to upper champ player
 That's based on not too much extensive research but well see if it materialises and will wait to see him in person
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: wheelerdeeler on May 31, 2021, 12:18:13 AM
Dike link also ignores the obvious that he'd be a like for like Mitrovic replacement stylistically, which Parker clearly doesn't like as a type of player. It's why I highlighted more mobile options in the Preview I put in here a week or so ago.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: AJW48361 on May 31, 2021, 03:20:04 AM
I think a Cauley return may happen.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: hongkongfulham on May 31, 2021, 07:20:00 AM
Just watched a Styles hype video. Some lovely little clips of the guy, would happily take him but only if Cairney leaves.

Dike seems good if Mitro leaves.

Any thoughts on Ryan Gauld? might be the scot in me talking but he looks handy for the touted 3 odd million. Tasty left foot and takes set pieces
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on May 31, 2021, 03:38:03 PM
Dike link also ignores the obvious that he'd be a like for like Mitrovic replacement stylistically, which Parker clearly doesn't like as a type of player. It's why I highlighted more mobile options in the Preview I put in here a week or so ago.

This ignores that the Championship and the Premier League are two different competitions, and Mitrovic was the leader of the squad in Parker's first full season in charge.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on May 31, 2021, 03:41:08 PM
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-liverpool-transfer-taiwo-awoniyi-5475892

Inside track on 'robust' Liverpool forward linked with Stoke City, West Brom and Fulham

Taiwo Awoniyi is expected to be on the move this summer after finally landing a work permit to play in England.

Awoniyi, aged 23, has spent his career so far on loan in either Belgium or Germany after joining Liverpool from former Stoke City midfielder Seyi Olofinjana's Imperial Soccer Academy back in 2015.

But the Nigeria youth striker has now qualified to play in the UK thanks to 16 starts in the Bundesliga over the last season with Union Berlin, who finished seventh.

The Liverpool Echo claims a number of English clubs have contacted Liverpool to register an interest - and Goal claim that includes Stoke, Fulham and West Brom, who will all be playing in the Championship next season.

The Athletic claims "Liverpool would sell for around £8m" but transfer fees are expected to be few and far between in the second tier this summer and a loan move might be most likely.

It is one month in particular over the winter, during a season affected by injuries, that has got managers on alert.

Bundeliga expert Daniel Pinder told Football FanCast: “He got five goals and three assists, and that run of five goals came across seven games, but then he picked up an injury and hasn’t been the same since.

“But he’s a player that puts himself around the box – he’s tall, strong, wins those aerial battles and holds onto the ball well and brings in his teammates.”

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Matt10 on May 31, 2021, 04:54:00 PM
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-liverpool-transfer-taiwo-awoniyi-5475892

Inside track on 'robust' Liverpool forward linked with Stoke City, West Brom and Fulham

Taiwo Awoniyi is expected to be on the move this summer after finally landing a work permit to play in England.

Awoniyi, aged 23, has spent his career so far on loan in either Belgium or Germany after joining Liverpool from former Stoke City midfielder Seyi Olofinjana's Imperial Soccer Academy back in 2015.

But the Nigeria youth striker has now qualified to play in the UK thanks to 16 starts in the Bundesliga over the last season with Union Berlin, who finished seventh.

The Liverpool Echo claims a number of English clubs have contacted Liverpool to register an interest - and Goal claim that includes Stoke, Fulham and West Brom, who will all be playing in the Championship next season.

The Athletic claims "Liverpool would sell for around £8m" but transfer fees are expected to be few and far between in the second tier this summer and a loan move might be most likely.

It is one month in particular over the winter, during a season affected by injuries, that has got managers on alert.

Bundeliga expert Daniel Pinder told Football FanCast: “He got five goals and three assists, and that run of five goals came across seven games, but then he picked up an injury and hasn’t been the same since.

“But he’s a player that puts himself around the box – he’s tall, strong, wins those aerial battles and holds onto the ball well and brings in his teammates.”

Watched him in the Bundesliga. Quite strong, and decent pace, just issues with finishing his chanceson occasion. Still, a player with Bundesliga experience is one I am a big fan of.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on May 31, 2021, 05:35:47 PM
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-liverpool-transfer-taiwo-awoniyi-5475892

Inside track on 'robust' Liverpool forward linked with Stoke City, West Brom and Fulham

Taiwo Awoniyi is expected to be on the move this summer after finally landing a work permit to play in England.

Awoniyi, aged 23, has spent his career so far on loan in either Belgium or Germany after joining Liverpool from former Stoke City midfielder Seyi Olofinjana's Imperial Soccer Academy back in 2015.

But the Nigeria youth striker has now qualified to play in the UK thanks to 16 starts in the Bundesliga over the last season with Union Berlin, who finished seventh.

The Liverpool Echo claims a number of English clubs have contacted Liverpool to register an interest - and Goal claim that includes Stoke, Fulham and West Brom, who will all be playing in the Championship next season.

The Athletic claims "Liverpool would sell for around £8m" but transfer fees are expected to be few and far between in the second tier this summer and a loan move might be most likely.

It is one month in particular over the winter, during a season affected by injuries, that has got managers on alert.

Bundeliga expert Daniel Pinder told Football FanCast: “He got five goals and three assists, and that run of five goals came across seven games, but then he picked up an injury and hasn’t been the same since.

“But he’s a player that puts himself around the box – he’s tall, strong, wins those aerial battles and holds onto the ball well and brings in his teammates.”

Watched him in the Bundesliga. Quite strong, and decent pace, just issues with finishing his chanceson occasion. Still, a player with Bundesliga experience is one I am a big fan of.

Can't finish and recent injuries makes him a shoe-in  :005:
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Matt10 on May 31, 2021, 06:14:05 PM
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-liverpool-transfer-taiwo-awoniyi-5475892

Inside track on 'robust' Liverpool forward linked with Stoke City, West Brom and Fulham

Taiwo Awoniyi is expected to be on the move this summer after finally landing a work permit to play in England.

Awoniyi, aged 23, has spent his career so far on loan in either Belgium or Germany after joining Liverpool from former Stoke City midfielder Seyi Olofinjana's Imperial Soccer Academy back in 2015.

But the Nigeria youth striker has now qualified to play in the UK thanks to 16 starts in the Bundesliga over the last season with Union Berlin, who finished seventh.

The Liverpool Echo claims a number of English clubs have contacted Liverpool to register an interest - and Goal claim that includes Stoke, Fulham and West Brom, who will all be playing in the Championship next season.

The Athletic claims "Liverpool would sell for around £8m" but transfer fees are expected to be few and far between in the second tier this summer and a loan move might be most likely.

It is one month in particular over the winter, during a season affected by injuries, that has got managers on alert.

Bundeliga expert Daniel Pinder told Football FanCast: “He got five goals and three assists, and that run of five goals came across seven games, but then he picked up an injury and hasn’t been the same since.

“But he’s a player that puts himself around the box – he’s tall, strong, wins those aerial battles and holds onto the ball well and brings in his teammates.”

Watched him in the Bundesliga. Quite strong, and decent pace, just issues with finishing his chanceson occasion. Still, a player with Bundesliga experience is one I am a big fan of.

Can't finish and recent injuries makes him a shoe-in  :005:

Indeed. Not to mention, he hasn't scored since January  049:gif
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on May 31, 2021, 07:35:44 PM
I notice we have a thing about Nigerians recently, not saying it’s wrong just odd.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on May 31, 2021, 08:38:31 PM
I notice we have a thing about Nigerians recently, not saying it’s wrong just odd.

They all grew up in London, so it isn't like it is that strange.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sunburywhite on May 31, 2021, 08:51:49 PM
I notice we have a thing about Nigerians recently, not saying it’s wrong just odd.

We must have had an e mail telling us that HMRC had a court case against us
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Asotosyios on May 31, 2021, 10:24:34 PM
MAN CITY READY TO OFFLOAD NMECHA

Manchester City are looking to help finance moves for Harry Kane and Jack Grealish by offloading loan signings including striker Lukas Nmecha this summer, according to the Daily Mail.

Nmecha, who is valued at £7m, has scored 20 goals for Anderlecht this season and is a member of the Germany Under-21s team taking part in the European Championship that resumes on Monday.

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I would like to see us go for Nmecha regardless if Mitrovic stays or not. He could be another Tosin for us.

Sent from my Redmi Note 8 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Texas White on June 01, 2021, 01:03:23 PM
Nmecha. 👍
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Bronaldinho on June 01, 2021, 04:06:50 PM
I'd really like Dike. Watched him play for Orlando as well. He's made the step up, and we need to take advantage of the momentum. Hopefully Jedi and Ream are talking up Fulham to him.

A lot of quality players in the Blackpool v Lincoln City side. Kenny Dougal is someone I've been watching for a while. He's got the vision and can strike the ball (two goals today of course), always popping up in the right spot. Think he'd be an excellent signing. Of course, tough to persuade, but still worth a punt.

Dike + Diedhiou, would be great firepower and give us two capable forwards at this level.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Bronaldinho on June 01, 2021, 04:07:33 PM
MAN CITY READY TO OFFLOAD NMECHA

Manchester City are looking to help finance moves for Harry Kane and Jack Grealish by offloading loan signings including striker Lukas Nmecha this summer, according to the Daily Mail.

Nmecha, who is valued at £7m, has scored 20 goals for Anderlecht this season and is a member of the Germany Under-21s team taking part in the European Championship that resumes on Monday.

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I would like to see us go for Nmecha regardless if Mitrovic stays or not. He could be another Tosin for us.

Sent from my Redmi Note 8 using Tapatalk



Would know Tosin really well - Thought he was a failed talent, but that loan spell in Belgium looks mightily impressive.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Bronaldinho on June 01, 2021, 04:08:27 PM
Just watched a Styles hype video. Some lovely little clips of the guy, would happily take him but only if Cairney leaves.

Dike seems good if Mitro leaves.

Any thoughts on Ryan Gauld? might be the scot in me talking but he looks handy for the touted 3 odd million. Tasty left foot and takes set pieces


We should be all over Gauld, thought he was a free agent this summer too.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on June 01, 2021, 05:00:45 PM
I'd really like Dike. Watched him play for Orlando as well. He's made the step up, and we need to take advantage of the momentum. Hopefully Jedi and Ream are talking up Fulham to him.

A lot of quality players in the Blackpool v Lincoln City side. Kenny Dougal is someone I've been watching for a while. He's got the vision and can strike the ball (two goals today of course), always popping up in the right spot. Think he'd be an excellent signing. Of course, tough to persuade, but still worth a punt.

Dike + Diedhiou, would be great firepower and give us two capable forwards at this level.

Diedhiou is about 5 yards slower than Mitro which isn't the sort of forward that Parker wants (if he's staying), and neither are good enough for the PL should we get promoted so would be instantly discarded and thus the cycle of new players being required starts again
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WORTHINGFULHAM on June 01, 2021, 05:19:19 PM
I'd really like Dike. Watched him play for Orlando as well. He's made the step up, and we need to take advantage of the momentum. Hopefully Jedi and Ream are talking up Fulham to him.

A lot of quality players in the Blackpool v Lincoln City side. Kenny Dougal is someone I've been watching for a while. He's got the vision and can strike the ball (two goals today of course), always popping up in the right spot. Think he'd be an excellent signing. Of course, tough to persuade, but still worth a punt.

Dike + Diedhiou, would be great firepower and give us two capable forwards at this level.

Diedhiou is about 5 yards slower than Mitro which isn't the sort of forward that Parker wants (if he's staying), and neither are good enough for the PL should we get promoted so would be instantly discarded and thus the cycle of new players being required starts again
We need a striker with pace and technical ability, bit like king louis saha was, a legend.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: hongkongfulham on June 01, 2021, 06:47:05 PM
Just watched a Styles hype video. Some lovely little clips of the guy, would happily take him but only if Cairney leaves.

Dike seems good if Mitro leaves.

Any thoughts on Ryan Gauld? might be the scot in me talking but he looks handy for the touted 3 odd million. Tasty left foot and takes set pieces


We should be all over Gauld, thought he was a free agent this summer too.

Apparently they triggered an extension but are resigned to selling
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on June 02, 2021, 04:16:52 PM
QPR have signed Charlie Austin today, their 3rd summer signing,  with Johansen fully expected to sign also, I don't expect them to compete with us, but it's undeniable that they've got momentum and a level of belief and optimism that we haven't seen for a while,
Fulham v QPR could well be very interesting next season.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Lordedmundo on June 02, 2021, 04:28:16 PM
I'd really like Dike. Watched him play for Orlando as well. He's made the step up, and we need to take advantage of the momentum. Hopefully Jedi and Ream are talking up Fulham to him.

A lot of quality players in the Blackpool v Lincoln City side. Kenny Dougal is someone I've been watching for a while. He's got the vision and can strike the ball (two goals today of course), always popping up in the right spot. Think he'd be an excellent signing. Of course, tough to persuade, but still worth a punt.

Dike + Diedhiou, would be great firepower and give us two capable forwards at this level.

Diedhiou is about 5 yards slower than Mitro which isn't the sort of forward that Parker wants (if he's staying), and neither are good enough for the PL should we get promoted so would be instantly discarded and thus the cycle of new players being required starts again
We need a striker with pace and technical ability, bit like king louis saha was, a legend.

Maybe Dike or Diedhou to come in as 3rd choice (and sell Kamara) - but neither seem to quite have the all around ability, experience and goalscoring record to come into a team aiming to finish in the top two.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: paulbrookersmazydribbles on June 02, 2021, 05:39:55 PM
QPR have signed Charlie Austin today, their 3rd summer signing,  with Johansen fully expected to sign also, I don't expect them to compete with us, but it's undeniable that they've got momentum and a level of belief and optimism that we haven't seen for a while,
Fulham v QPR could well be very interesting next season.

Can easily see Stef Jo going. Passed over having helped us back to the top flight twice in a row. We are definitely going to need reinforcements in central midfield regardless.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on June 02, 2021, 05:51:34 PM
QPR have signed Charlie Austin today, their 3rd summer signing,  with Johansen fully expected to sign also, I don't expect them to compete with us, but it's undeniable that they've got momentum and a level of belief and optimism that we haven't seen for a while,
Fulham v QPR could well be very interesting next season.
Is the window open now then?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: paulbrookersmazydribbles on June 02, 2021, 06:35:23 PM
Been open since May 24.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on June 02, 2021, 06:38:01 PM
Been open since May 24.

I assume our dof is working tirelessly behind the scenes, trying to build a promotion winning squad for next season?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on June 02, 2021, 08:04:34 PM
QPR have signed Charlie Austin today, their 3rd summer signing,  with Johansen fully expected to sign also, I don't expect them to compete with us, but it's undeniable that they've got momentum and a level of belief and optimism that we haven't seen for a while,
Fulham v QPR could well be very interesting next season.
Is the window open now then?


their record with Charlie Austin 2nd half of the season was pretty impressive tbf. If they keep up the momentum and make some other decent signings in the transfer window they may finally get back around the playoffs this year
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jamie88 on June 02, 2021, 08:23:55 PM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: PaulJ123 on June 02, 2021, 09:20:46 PM
Been open since May 24.

I assume our dof is working tirelessly behind the scenes, trying to build a promotion winning squad for next season?

Think the latest AEW promotion was called “Double or Nothing” which is as close we’ll get.

#HoweIn
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 02, 2021, 10:40:03 PM
The wrestling thing is getting really tedious, lads.  We will sign and sell players, that is a given because we always do, and wrestling will have no provable damaging or uplifting factor within that.

I was surprised that Austin was only 31! I always thought that him and Glenn Murray were kind of the same.  064.gif
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on June 02, 2021, 11:43:19 PM
The wrestling thing is getting really tedious, lads.  We will sign and sell players, that is a given because we always do, and wrestling will have no provable damaging or uplifting factor within that.

I was surprised that Austin was only 31! I always thought that him and Glenn Murray were kind of the same.  064.gif
To be fair I guarantee no other club has a dof running 3 businesses.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: paulbrookersmazydribbles on June 03, 2021, 12:50:32 AM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th

That's the Premier League window. We are now classified as an EFL side.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: PaulJ123 on June 03, 2021, 08:28:21 AM
The wrestling thing is getting really tedious, lads.  We will sign and sell players, that is a given because we always do, and wrestling will have no provable damaging or uplifting factor within that.

I was surprised that Austin was only 31! I always thought that him and Glenn Murray were kind of the same.  064.gif

We always do but it’s always too late in the window with very little planning.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: AJW48361 on June 03, 2021, 09:30:21 AM
You got to feel wanted is Stef Jo is really wanted by the Fulham staff? He would probably be fantastic for us this season.But he deserves to have a choice of playing for who he wants to.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on June 03, 2021, 10:04:39 AM
QPR have signed Charlie Austin today, their 3rd summer signing,  with Johansen fully expected to sign also, I don't expect them to compete with us, but it's undeniable that they've got momentum and a level of belief and optimism that we haven't seen for a while,
Fulham v QPR could well be very interesting next season.
Only if we improve on last season where at the Cottage it was a question of will we fail to score or manage a solitary goal.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Maidstone Lee on June 03, 2021, 01:26:31 PM
The wrestling thing is getting really tedious, lads.  We will sign and sell players, that is a given because we always do, and wrestling will have no provable damaging or uplifting factor within that.

I was surprised that Austin was only 31! I always thought that him and Glenn Murray were kind of the same.  064.gif
The wrestling thing is getting really tedious, lads.  We will sign and sell players, that is a given because we always do, and wrestling will have no provable damaging or uplifting factor within that.

I was surprised that Austin was only 31! I always thought that him and Glenn Murray were kind of the same.  064.gif
To be fair I guarantee no other club has a dof running 3 businesses.
Exactly!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 03, 2021, 02:00:25 PM
Been open since May 24.

I assume our dof is working tirelessly behind the scenes, trying to build a promotion winning squad for next season?

He had not even given Fulham FC a thought because he doesn’t really care, we are way down his list of priorities partly because he is as useless as a D of F as you can get. I hope he stays in cartoon land and make a fool of himself there than come to England and make a fool of himself here.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 03, 2021, 04:05:58 PM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th

That's the Premier League window. We are now classified as an EFL side.
This article seems to indictate 9th June for the EFL

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/efl-fixture-release-transfer-window-24093908
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on June 03, 2021, 04:46:19 PM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th

That's the Premier League window. We are now classified as an EFL side.
This article seems to indictate 9th June for the EFL

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/efl-fixture-release-transfer-window-24093908

Got the same answer looking around. Doesn't stop you from agreeing to sign someone mind.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: deadcowboys on June 03, 2021, 04:48:35 PM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th

That's the Premier League window. We are now classified as an EFL side.
This article seems to indictate 9th June for the EFL

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/efl-fixture-release-transfer-window-24093908

That was my understanding too. But for us when it opens is often an irrelevance. More importantly, when it closes. How close to 31/8/21 does TK want to leave it given the season starts on 7/8/21?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on June 03, 2021, 04:56:47 PM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th

That's the Premier League window. We are now classified as an EFL side.
This article seems to indictate 9th June for the EFL

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/efl-fixture-release-transfer-window-24093908

Got the same answer looking around. Doesn't stop you from agreeing to sign someone mind.
If QPR have 'signed' Austin then either the June date is wrong or has he signed some kind of pre contract agreement, if that can be done?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 03, 2021, 05:07:13 PM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th

That's the Premier League window. We are now classified as an EFL side.
This article seems to indictate 9th June for the EFL

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/efl-fixture-release-transfer-window-24093908

Got the same answer looking around. Doesn't stop you from agreeing to sign someone mind.
Nope agree, i just wanted to clarify the timings.

In fact when we signed Bullard we announced it 2 games before the end of the season if memory serves as I believe we met his clause and then Wigan didnt play him due to that
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 03, 2021, 05:07:50 PM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th

That's the Premier League window. We are now classified as an EFL side.
This article seems to indictate 9th June for the EFL

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/efl-fixture-release-transfer-window-24093908

Got the same answer looking around. Doesn't stop you from agreeing to sign someone mind.
If QPR have 'signed' Austin then either the June date is wrong or has he signed some kind of pre contract agreement, if that can be done?
You can do the deal but the registration of the player isnt completed until the opening of the window as I understand things
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JoeS on June 03, 2021, 05:25:31 PM
This would be my main transfer targets list for this window. Defensively I think we are in good shape currently so would prioritise our midfield/attacking options.

Midfielders:
- Alex Mowatt (free transfer - Barnsley), good attacking player with an eye for goal
- John Lundstram (free transfer - Sheff Utd), proved he can play in the Prem should we get promoted

Forwards:
- Adam Armstrong (Blackburn), prolific last season (only Toney scored more), but may be expensive
- Clarke-Harris (Peterborough), Ivan Toney part two?
- Dembele (Peterborough), skillful winger who we've been linked to previously
- Dike (Orlando), Barnsley could not take their option on him, shame as he was a revelation for them
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on June 04, 2021, 10:26:04 AM
Le Marchand extended for 1 year
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on June 04, 2021, 10:32:55 AM
This would be my main transfer targets list for this window. Defensively I think we are in good shape currently so would prioritise our midfield/attacking options.

Midfielders:
- Alex Mowatt (free transfer - Barnsley), good attacking player with an eye for goal
- John Lundstram (free transfer - Sheff Utd), proved he can play in the Prem should we get promoted

Forwards:
- Adam Armstrong (Blackburn), prolific last season (only Toney scored more), but may be expensive
- Clarke-Harris (Peterborough), Ivan Toney part two?
- Dembele (Peterborough), skillful winger who we've been linked to previously
- Dike (Orlando), Barnsley could not take their option on him, shame as he was a revelation for them
Send this to Tony please
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Steven Ageroad on June 04, 2021, 10:46:54 AM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th

That's the Premier League window. We are now classified as an EFL side.
This article seems to indictate 9th June for the EFL

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/efl-fixture-release-transfer-window-24093908

Got the same answer looking around. Doesn't stop you from agreeing to sign someone mind.
If QPR have 'signed' Austin then either the June date is wrong or has he signed some kind of pre contract agreement, if that can be done?

Austins contract at Southampton had expired and was therefore a free agent and could sign for anyone at any time.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on June 06, 2021, 12:16:40 AM
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/06/manchester-city-line-up-move-for-robinson/

Manchester City line up move for Robinson

Manchester City are preparing a shock move for Fulham full back Antonee Robinson, according to the Sun.

Pep Guardiola is planning to overhaul his squad after City’s Champions’ League final disappointment and aims to sign younger players for the future. The 23 year-old’s athleticism and attacking instincts appeal to Guardiola and the English champions believe that a £10m bid would be enough to persuade Fulham to part with a player they only signed last summer from Wigan.

Robinson made 35 appearances in his debut season for Fulham, quickly displacing the club’s Wembley hero Joe Bryan at left back, and impressed despite the blow of relegation. The former Everton trainee has won eleven caps for the United States and helped the Americans qualify for the CONCACAF Nations League final in his first start for his country earlier this week.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on June 06, 2021, 09:23:17 AM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th

That's the Premier League window. We are now classified as an EFL side.
This article seems to indictate 9th June for the EFL

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/efl-fixture-release-transfer-window-24093908

Got the same answer looking around. Doesn't stop you from agreeing to sign someone mind.
Nope agree, i just wanted to clarify the timings.

In fact when we signed Bullard we announced it 2 games before the end of the season if memory serves as I believe we met his clause and then Wigan didnt play him due to that

We also signed Hector about 3 months before the window opened

You can sign players anytime, bring them over and have thrn training and playing friendlies, they just can't play in a competitive match under the window opens
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Bill2 on June 06, 2021, 01:24:27 PM
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/06/manchester-city-line-up-move-for-robinson/

Manchester City line up move for Robinson

Manchester City are preparing a shock move for Fulham full back Antonee Robinson, according to the Sun.

Pep Guardiola is planning to overhaul his squad after City’s Champions’ League final disappointment and aims to sign younger players for the future. The 23 year-old’s athleticism and attacking instincts appeal to Guardiola and the English champions believe that a £10m bid would be enough to persuade Fulham to part with a player they only signed last summer from Wigan.

Robinson made 35 appearances in his debut season for Fulham, quickly displacing the club’s Wembley hero Joe Bryan at left back, and impressed despite the blow of relegation. The former Everton trainee has won eleven caps for the United States and helped the Americans qualify for the CONCACAF Nations League final in his first start for his country earlier this week.
Well we should up the price, I doubt if he has a buy out clause so the starting bid is £20 mill. Don't want any of their old cast offs who have not been good enough to get a game against non league sides in the cups.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Sgt Fulham on June 06, 2021, 08:44:56 PM
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/06/manchester-city-line-up-move-for-robinson/

Manchester City line up move for Robinson

Manchester City are preparing a shock move for Fulham full back Antonee Robinson, according to the Sun.

Pep Guardiola is planning to overhaul his squad after City’s Champions’ League final disappointment and aims to sign younger players for the future. The 23 year-old’s athleticism and attacking instincts appeal to Guardiola and the English champions believe that a £10m bid would be enough to persuade Fulham to part with a player they only signed last summer from Wigan.

Robinson made 35 appearances in his debut season for Fulham, quickly displacing the club’s Wembley hero Joe Bryan at left back, and impressed despite the blow of relegation. The former Everton trainee has won eleven caps for the United States and helped the Americans qualify for the CONCACAF Nations League final in his first start for his country earlier this week.

Robinson in that Man City side? Best joke I've heard all week!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WORTHINGFULHAM on June 07, 2021, 07:11:29 PM
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/06/manchester-city-line-up-move-for-robinson/

Manchester City line up move for Robinson

Manchester City are preparing a shock move for Fulham full back Antonee Robinson, according to the Sun.

Pep Guardiola is planning to overhaul his squad after City’s Champions’ League final disappointment and aims to sign younger players for the future. The 23 year-old’s athleticism and attacking instincts appeal to Guardiola and the English champions believe that a £10m bid would be enough to persuade Fulham to part with a player they only signed last summer from Wigan.

Robinson made 35 appearances in his debut season for Fulham, quickly displacing the club’s Wembley hero Joe Bryan at left back, and impressed despite the blow of relegation. The former Everton trainee has won eleven caps for the United States and helped the Americans qualify for the CONCACAF Nations League final in his first start for his country earlier this week.

Robinson in that Man City side? Best joke I've heard all week!
like he would play 😂 he would be loaned out here there and everywhere but wouldnt ever play for city. Look at sess and what he was sold for, loaned out and so far forgotten, and elliot, loaned out to championship but again wont really get into first team.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on June 07, 2021, 10:06:00 PM
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-allan-campbell-5500215

Stoke City will face competition from a good chunk of the Championship if they follow up reported interest in Allan Campbell.

Campbell is one of the most wanted out-of-contract players from Scotland this summer as he gets set to leave Motherwell for the next stage of his career.

He has been linked with Stoke and Stoke's former managers Gary Rowett, now at Millwall, and Nathan Jones, at Luton Town.

Football Insider claims that he is also a wanted man at newly-promoted Peterborough United and freshly-relegated Fulham.

Out of contract players under the age of 24 can move between England and Scotland with the buying club only made to pay a compensation fee for 'training and development'. That is why Celtic and Rangers were front of queue when Tyrese Campbell was coming towards the end of his contract at Stoke in 2020.

It is clear how highly that Motherwell manager Graham Alexander rates Campbell.

He told the Daily Record last month: "I had one last shot at it a couple of weeks ago and we did offer him a very good contract for us, because I didn't want to get to the summer, he goes elsewhere and we hadn't tried everything we can to keep him.

"As I keep saying, he's a brilliant player, a brilliant professional, and any manager would be desperately keen to keep him on board.

"I know the reasons why, and I can understand the reasons why, as an ex-player myself. We had a great chat the other week, he was honest as he always is, and I could see his perspective, so he will be leaving in the summer and I hope he gets the best club he can.

"Everyone at Motherwell, not just myself, would wish the best for Allan, because he has been absolutely fantastic for this club.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 08, 2021, 12:48:38 AM
Been open since May 24.

Not open until June 9th

That's the Premier League window. We are now classified as an EFL side.
This article seems to indictate 9th June for the EFL

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/efl-fixture-release-transfer-window-24093908

Got the same answer looking around. Doesn't stop you from agreeing to sign someone mind.
Nope agree, i just wanted to clarify the timings.

In fact when we signed Bullard we announced it 2 games before the end of the season if memory serves as I believe we met his clause and then Wigan didnt play him due to that

We also signed Hector about 3 months before the window opened

You can sign players anytime, bring them over and have thrn training and playing friendlies, they just can't play in a competitive match under the window opens

We can sign players anytime, but only if we have FFC budget available to amortize player transfer fees. I am fairly certain, we have enough budget this season to start amortizing now, but doubt we could of in a few of our previous seasons. Even so I would imagine most accountants would warn against FFC signing before the 1st July.

The big risk with buying a player now (especially those playing internationals) is if he gets a career-ending injury before 30th June, because that would cause us to impair his value, break FFP and the Championship might enforce a rule that will force us to sell players to achieve FFP (or get a points deduction).
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: LC on June 08, 2021, 01:35:30 AM
We don’t have to spend a lot to improve the squad, we could easily do something like this:

- Michal Helik £3-5m
- Jeff Hendrick £2m
- Billy Gilmour Loan
- Harry Wilson Loan with view to a permanent deal
- Famara Diédhiou Free Transfer

I think some of those players would improve on what we currently have and others would be good squad additions. If we can’t afford to at least do something like the above then we would need to keep our current squad intact in order to bounce straight back up to the PL- (only exception is probably Zambo who I expect to leave for a nice fee).
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on June 08, 2021, 08:15:38 AM
We don’t have to spend a lot to improve the squad, we could easily do something like this:

- Michal Helik £3-5m
- Jeff Hendrick £2m
- Billy Gilmour Loan
- Harry Wilson Loan with view to a permanent deal
- Famara Diédhiou Free Transfer

I think some of those players would improve on what we currently have and others would be good squad additions. If we can’t afford to at least do something like the above then we would need to keep our current squad intact in order to bounce straight back up to the PL- (only exception is probably Zambo who I expect to leave for a nice fee).

Would certainly like to see a centre half who threatens from set pieces and Helik seems to fit that bill
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on June 08, 2021, 09:12:31 AM
What is the obsession with Diédhiou even on a free, he's slower than Mitro ffs
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Craven Mad on June 08, 2021, 09:48:35 AM
We don’t have to spend a lot to improve the squad, we could easily do something like this:

- Michal Helik £3-5m
- Jeff Hendrick £2m
- Billy Gilmour Loan
- Harry Wilson Loan with view to a permanent deal
- Famara Diédhiou Free Transfer

I think some of those players would improve on what we currently have and others would be good squad additions. If we can’t afford to at least do something like the above then we would need to keep our current squad intact in order to bounce straight back up to the PL- (only exception is probably Zambo who I expect to leave for a nice fee).

Would certainly like to see a centre half who threatens from set pieces and Helik seems to fit that bill

He only managed a pass success rate of c.50% last season, so I’m not sure he’d be a great fit here…
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 09, 2021, 08:46:57 AM
According to Sky Sports the transfer window officially opens today, let the signings commence lol
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 09, 2021, 09:08:28 AM
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-allan-campbell-5500215

Football Insider claims that he is also a wanted man at newly-promoted Peterborough United and freshly-relegated Fulham. It is clear how highly that Motherwell manager Graham Alexander rates Campbell. "As I keep saying, he's a brilliant player, a brilliant professional, and any manager would be desperately keen to keep him on board."

"Everyone at Motherwell, not just myself, would wish the best for Allan, because he has been absolutely fantastic for this club.

Allan Campbell sounds like an excellent replacement for Kevin McDonald in the squad and good competition for Harrison Reed in the #6 holding midfielder role (although Reed is currently much better), allowing our other squad midfielders (Anguissa, Onamah, Cairney, Seri and Stefjo) to concentrate on #8 and #10 midfield roles which they are better suited.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: ianthailand on June 09, 2021, 09:27:06 AM
Junior White will you tell TK or shall we wait until August 31st?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 09, 2021, 09:36:23 AM
Junior White will you tell TK or shall we wait until August 31st?
I have a Zoom booked with him for 11am UKT this morning so will bring it up.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: gang on June 09, 2021, 10:04:24 AM
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-allan-campbell-5500215

Football Insider claims that he is also a wanted man at newly-promoted Peterborough United and freshly-relegated Fulham. It is clear how highly that Motherwell manager Graham Alexander rates Campbell. "As I keep saying, he's a brilliant player, a brilliant professional, and any manager would be desperately keen to keep him on board."

"Everyone at Motherwell, not just myself, would wish the best for Allan, because he has been absolutely fantastic for this club.

Allan Campbell sounds like an excellent replacement for Kevin McDonald in the squad and good competition for Harrison Reed in the #6 holding midfielder role (although Reed is currently much better), allowing our other squad midfielders (Anguissa, Onamah, Cairney, Seri and Stefjo) to concentrate on #8 and #10 midfield roles which they are better suited.


I don't believe Anguissa, Seri or Stefjo will be with us next season and I would be surprised if Cairney doesn't go to Sheffield United along with Mitro.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rebel on June 09, 2021, 10:10:27 AM
When does the window open? 9th July
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 09, 2021, 10:19:40 AM
When does the window open? 9th July
I posted earlier that according to sky it officially opens today
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: ianthailand on June 09, 2021, 10:56:55 AM
Junior White, you'll talk to anyone, have you no shame!!!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 09, 2021, 11:27:20 AM
Junior White, you'll talk to anyone, have you no shame!!!
When you need answers you gotta talk lol
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HV71 on June 09, 2021, 12:14:12 PM
Junior White - don’t forget to wear tights - that will get his attention
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: ianthailand on June 09, 2021, 01:25:46 PM
Bang on JW but the thought of you in tights has made my dinner make an upward journey.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 09, 2021, 01:34:01 PM
Junior White - don’t forget to wear tights - that will get his attention
LOL, call went well didnt need the tights lol
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: ianthailand on June 09, 2021, 03:19:17 PM
And you're the new DoF congratulations a definite improvement.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 09, 2021, 03:41:47 PM
And you're the new DoF congratulations a definite improvement.
Not yet but I am working on it
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rebel on June 09, 2021, 05:16:39 PM
When does the window open? 9th July
I posted earlier that according to sky it officially opens today

Thanks, I thought so. This is such an anti-climax. So we'll sign 25 players on the last day,
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 09, 2021, 05:57:37 PM
When does the window open? 9th July
I posted earlier that according to sky it officially opens today

Thanks, I thought so. This is such an anti-climax. So we'll sign 25 players on the last day,
As always
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on June 09, 2021, 08:59:02 PM
MAN CITY FACE COMPETITION FOR FULHAM STAR AS EUROPEAN GIANTS JOIN TRANSFER CHASE

Italian giants AC Milan are prepared to come back in for Fulham defender Antonee Robinson this summer and try and secure a deal for their long-term target, according to Calciomercato.

AC Milan first tried to secure a move for Robinson in January 2020 with them having agreed an initial £6 million deal to take him from Wigan Athletic. However, that deal, which could have increased to £10 million in add-ons, ultimately fell through due to medical issues with the USA international.

Robinson has since gone on to move to Fulham and enjoyed a promising campaign with them in the Premier League last term making 28 appearances, although the left-back could not prevent them from being relegated back to the Championship.

It has already been reported by The Sun that Manchester City have Robinson on their transfer radar this summer as they aim to bolster their options at left-back. It is thought that Fulham are going to value the defender at around £10 million this summer according to that report.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on June 09, 2021, 11:39:32 PM
Harrison Reed is wanted by Leeds according to Thursdays Daily Mail,
This would be a disaster if this happens,  with Tosin and Robinson both being pursued by others and the loss of all our loan players its going to take a miracle for us to have any where near a settled side come the start of August.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on June 09, 2021, 11:55:18 PM
Harrison Reed is wanted by Leeds according to Thursdays Daily Mail,
This would be a disaster if this happens,  with Tosin and Robinson both being pursued by others and the loss of all our loan players its going to take a miracle for us to have any where near a settled side come the start of August.

Must keep him and Tosin. Absolutely vital.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Porthogs FC on June 10, 2021, 12:14:49 AM
Harrison Reed is wanted by Leeds according to Thursdays Daily Mail,
This would be a disaster if this happens,  with Tosin and Robinson both being pursued by others and the loss of all our loan players its going to take a miracle for us to have any where near a settled side come the start of August.

Must keep him and Tosin. Absolutely vital.

It really depends - if we get all the money for all the players, and rebuild better with an improved coach...
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 10, 2021, 12:21:58 AM
We need to hang on to as many of the key and core players we can, otherwise we could be handicapped from the start and chasing everyone’s slip stream once again.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 10, 2021, 06:46:22 AM
We need to hang on to as many of the key and core players we can, otherwise we could be handicapped from the start and chasing everyone’s slipstream once again.

I hope we keep all our players. I'd like to see a strong third XI with Fabri (GK), S.Sess (RB), MLM (RCB, LCB, LB), Seri (DM, CM, AM), Knockaert (RW, LW), and Stansfield (CF) in it, they are exactly the kind of players I like to see in the third XI as we will need depth in a marathon season, even if some of the depth is far from perfect.

We also need 22 players better than those players, to fill our first XI and second XI. My calculations is we are short a 2nd XI GK and 2nd XI CF. Although it might also be said that most of our best wingers (Cav, Reid, Kebano, Kamara, and Carvalho) are between first XI and second XI standards, still one top winger like Ryan Sessegnon would be nice.

My concern is Fabri has signed a new contract (which is great), but Betts is still deciding whether to sign a new contract (which is a shame if we lose him). I believe Fabri is the best 3rd choice goalkeeper in the championship, but we probably want to have at least two keepers that have played more than one game in the last two and half seasons, so we do need another second-choice keeper with recent game time. 

As for selling players, selling players to buy players is really hard under FFP, and better avoided if possible unless absolutely necessary. I really suspect once we try to sell players, we will end up selling the wrong ones, especially given FFP favours selling players like Cairney and keeping players like Seri, which is great for the balance sheet but might not the football field and versa-versa (i.e. selling Seri can really hurt the balance sheet causing us to reduce squad size).

"Anguissa at a good price" is the only player that will improve the balance sheet, where a cheaper replacement might not affect the team too much in the championship, but if we can go up with Anguissa in the team, I think a Tosin-Reed-Anguissa partnership will be very valuable building block, whereas someone that can get us promoted but not good enough for premier league is not a great building block.

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on June 10, 2021, 07:35:43 AM
Harrison Reed is wanted by Leeds according to Thursdays Daily Mail,
This would be a disaster if this happens,  with Tosin and Robinson both being pursued by others and the loss of all our loan players its going to take a miracle for us to have any where near a settled side come the start of August.

Must keep him and Tosin. Absolutely vital.

It really depends - if we get all the money for all the players, and rebuild better with an improved coach...

Total nonsense,  how much do you think it would cost to replace both Tosin and Reed on a like for like basis ?
We've thrown the towel in already if they both leave.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on June 10, 2021, 07:45:31 AM
Harrison Reed is wanted by Leeds according to Thursdays Daily Mail,
This would be a disaster if this happens,  with Tosin and Robinson both being pursued by others and the loss of all our loan players its going to take a miracle for us to have any where near a settled side come the start of August.

Must keep him and Tosin. Absolutely vital.

It really depends - if we get all the money for all the players, and rebuild better with an improved coach...

Total nonsense,  how much do you think it would cost to replace both Tosin and Reed on a like for like basis ?
We've thrown the towel in already if they both leave.

Agree. If these two are allowed to leave it will massively hinder any attempts to go straight back up. I appreciate we may need to sell one player this summer to finance new signings but any moves for Reed and Tosin must be blocked. It would go against what the Chairman said in his statement yesterday about our aim to achieve promotion straight back to the Premier League.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 10, 2021, 08:01:37 AM
Harrison Reed is wanted by Leeds according to Thursdays Daily Mail,
This would be a disaster if this happens,  with Tosin and Robinson both being pursued by others and the loss of all our loan players its going to take a miracle for us to have any where near a settled side come the start of August.

Must keep him and Tosin. Absolutely vital.

It really depends - if we get all the money for all the players, and rebuild better with an improved coach...

Total nonsense,  how much do you think it would cost to replace both Tosin and Reed on a like for like basis ?
We've thrown the towel in already if they both leave.

Agree. If these two are allowed to leave it will massively hinder any attempts to go straight back up. I appreciate we may need to sell one player this summer to finance new signings but any moves for Reed and Tosin must be blocked. It would go against what the Chairman said in his statement yesterday about our aim to achieve promotion straight back to the Premier League.
If we have a choice we should keep them for sure. There are rumours that Toisin has a release clause of 10 million mean that may not be in our hands.

However even if we have a choice do we keep a player who asks to leave and then may not be as committed to the cause or who is unhappy? If rumours are to be believed we saw that last season with Mitro who is rumoured (nothing concrete anywhere I have seen) to have asked to leave at the end of  the promotion season and again at least one during the last season.

It is a fine line I think at times, you cannot keep giving new improved contracts, you have to think what is best for the team and if that is selling so the team isnt affected on the pitch then so be it. Hopefully we don’t but it could be the case if they asked to move.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on June 10, 2021, 09:46:57 AM
Over the next couple of months I suspect Mitro, Anguissa, Reed and Tosin will have attractive offers from premier league clubs. We need these players if we are to build a team capable of promotion. TK has to make it his priority to ensure they stay with us.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on June 10, 2021, 01:51:01 PM
Over the next couple of months I suspect Mitro, Anguissa, Reed and Tosin will have attractive offers from premier league clubs. We need these players if we are to build a team capable of promotion. TK has to make it his priority to ensure they stay with us.

Most realistically we can and should hold on to Reed and Tosin.
Less secure is the future of Anguissa who I imagine will be off,
Mitro likewise, if Parker stays I think he'll be gone but a decent new manager looking to build around him might see him stay.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: PaulJ123 on June 10, 2021, 05:27:14 PM
Over the next couple of months I suspect Mitro, Anguissa, Reed and Tosin will have attractive offers from premier league clubs. We need these players if we are to build a team capable of promotion. TK has to make it his priority to ensure they stay with us.

Most realistically we can and should hold on to Reed and Tosin.
Less secure is the future of Anguissa who I imagine will be off,
Mitro likewise, if Parker stays I think he'll be gone but a decent new manager looking to build around him might see him stay.

Imagine Roy comes back and uses Mitro in the Zamora role  :Haynes The Maestro: :Haynes The Maestro:
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HillingdonFFC on June 10, 2021, 07:29:09 PM
Over the next couple of months I suspect Mitro, Anguissa, Reed and Tosin will have attractive offers from premier league clubs. We need these players if we are to build a team capable of promotion. TK has to make it his priority to ensure they stay with us.

Most realistically we can and should hold on to Reed and Tosin.
Less secure is the future of Anguissa who I imagine will be off,
Mitro likewise, if Parker stays I think he'll be gone but a decent new manager looking to build around him might see him stay.

Imagine Roy comes back and uses Mitro in the Zamora role  :Haynes The Maestro: :Haynes The Maestro:

Zamora a lot quicker & more mobile than Mitrovic
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: hongkongfulham on June 11, 2021, 12:53:11 AM
Im resigned to Mitro leaving. Real shame but the only reason he would stay is because his agent couldn't get him a good deal elsewhere. Been supportive of Scotty but he really sh!t the bed in this situation
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2021, 02:25:12 AM
Harrison Reed is wanted by Leeds according to Thursdays Daily Mail,
This would be a disaster if this happens,  with Tosin and Robinson both being pursued by others and the loss of all our loan players its going to take a miracle for us to have any where near a settled side come the start of August.

Must keep him and Tosin. Absolutely vital.

It really depends - if we get all the money for all the players, and rebuild better with an improved coach...

Total nonsense,  how much do you think it would cost to replace both Tosin and Reed on a like for like basis ?
We've thrown the towel in already if they both leave.

We shouldn't sell any player, unless a) they are offered more than they are worth or b) they have been good to the club deserve to leave to be at a more appropriate team (only Betts, KMac and Stefjo fit in this category).

Tosin, Reed, Seri, Anguissa, and Mitrovic fall into neither category, because I don't see an overpriced bid coming in for any of them (e.g. Seri won't get a £3m bid and Tosin won't get a £20m bid) and they don't deserve any favours they can do a job here.

Most players would prefer to be at another club, I'm sure Reed would prefer to be at Brentford, Norwich and Watford but he will fight for us in the championship and we shouldn't start offloading other players just cause they don't show the same attitude. Besides, if we offload everyone that doesn't try to a better club, soon Reed will stop trying.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RaySmith on June 11, 2021, 04:42:03 AM
Obviously Reed, like all players, is ambitious, and would like to play for a Prem team, but if he stays at Fulham, for whatever reason, I'm sure he will want to  play a big part in getting us back into the Prem.

I'm sure Parker, or whoever is manager, and the club, will want to do their  best to keep Reed at Fulham.
Likewise Tosin.

I expect every player who dons the White shirt to give their all, anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RaySmith on June 11, 2021, 04:54:08 AM
We need to hang on to as many of the key and core players we can, otherwise we could be handicapped from the start and chasing everyone’s slip stream once again.

Agree.

WE don't want it to be like when we went down under Magath, who thought we could just get rid of most of the senior pro's, and fill the team with  Youth players, with  disastrous effects for both the team, and  some of these players.

It was Parker who did a good job leading these players on the field though, even paying unfair fines  from Magath on  a couple of young players, otherwise things might have been even worse.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JackHamlet90 on June 11, 2021, 06:40:30 AM
If Parker remains manager then Harrison Reed will stay at Fulham
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FulhamStu on June 11, 2021, 07:45:19 AM
I really don’t think Reed will want to move.  He had been loaned all over the place by Southampton and has hopefully now found his home, he has said this on film.  He will not walk into a Premier team and will be back to being a squad player and could end up as he was at Southampton again and he will know this, he is quite a smart guy and I would think a potential future Fulham captain.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: colinwhite on June 11, 2021, 09:57:41 AM
I think he will stay
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on June 11, 2021, 10:34:53 AM
Tosin has a £10m escape clause in his contract, at that price he is as good as gone, |no point in keeping Mitro if Parker is not going to use him, Anguissa made it clear a year ago that he will not play down to Championship level . Just hope we manage to hang on to Reed, our team will have to be built around him.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on June 11, 2021, 11:01:04 AM
Tosin has a £10m escape clause in his contract, at that price he is as good as gone, |no point in keeping Mitro if Parker is not going to use him, Anguissa made it clear a year ago that he will not play down to Championship level . Just hope we manage to hang on to Reed, our team will have to be built around him.
A bit arrogant that some players think they're too good for championship, but were a cog in a relegated pl side and didn't really help the cause much
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 11, 2021, 11:10:36 AM
Tosin has a £10m escape clause in his contract, at that price he is as good as gone, |no point in keeping Mitro if Parker is not going to use him, Anguissa made it clear a year ago that he will not play down to Championship level . Just hope we manage to hang on to Reed, our team will have to be built around him.
A bit arrogant that some players think they're too good for championship, but were a cog in a relegated pl side and didn't really help the cause much
Arrogant due to the clause?

If so, some times players will only sign if there is a release clause, my mind springs back to Dembele mark 1
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sarnian on June 11, 2021, 11:27:18 AM
Tosin has a £10m escape clause in his contract, at that price he is as good as gone, |no point in keeping Mitro if Parker is not going to use him, Anguissa made it clear a year ago that he will not play down to Championship level . Just hope we manage to hang on to Reed, our team will have to be built around him.
A bit arrogant that some players think they're too good for championship, but were a cog in a relegated pl side and didn't really help the cause much
Arrogant due to the clause?

If so, some times players will only sign if there is a release clause, my mind springs back to Dembele mark 1

Dembele Mark 1 actually shortly before being sold signed a new contract with a release clause figure inserted so that Fulham would receive a fair price from Spurs. If he hadn’t signed that new contract Fulham would have received far less from Spurs. Good bloke.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 11, 2021, 12:02:04 PM
Tosin has a £10m escape clause in his contract, at that price he is as good as gone, |no point in keeping Mitro if Parker is not going to use him, Anguissa made it clear a year ago that he will not play down to Championship level . Just hope we manage to hang on to Reed, our team will have to be built around him.
A bit arrogant that some players think they're too good for championship, but were a cog in a relegated pl side and didn't really help the cause much
Arrogant due to the clause?

If so, some times players will only sign if there is a release clause, my mind springs back to Dembele mark 1

Dembele Mark 1 actually shortly before being sold signed a new contract with a release clause figure inserted so that Fulham would receive a fair price from Spurs. If he hadn’t signed that new contract Fulham would have received far less from Spurs. Good bloke.
He is yes, i heard it slightly differently though. I was told when he signed for us he only did so as we had a release clause and the other team wouldnt put that in, and then when he signed his new deal he insisted it was carried over but at an increased price.

He was a good servant to us. ANyway my point is that it isnt nescersarily arrogance to have a release clause, and for us to include it if it meant we signed someone then thats fair as long as we make out of it
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on June 11, 2021, 12:26:31 PM
Tosin has a £10m escape clause in his contract, at that price he is as good as gone, |no point in keeping Mitro if Parker is not going to use him, Anguissa made it clear a year ago that he will not play down to Championship level . Just hope we manage to hang on to Reed, our team will have to be built around him.
A bit arrogant that some players think they're too good for championship, but were a cog in a relegated pl side and didn't really help the cause much
Arrogant due to the clause?

If so, some times players will only sign if there is a release clause, my mind springs back to Dembele mark 1
No, arrogant that they think they're above the championship as I said!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on June 11, 2021, 12:34:04 PM
Tosin has a £10m escape clause in his contract, at that price he is as good as gone, |no point in keeping Mitro if Parker is not going to use him, Anguissa made it clear a year ago that he will not play down to Championship level . Just hope we manage to hang on to Reed, our team will have to be built around him.
A bit arrogant that some players think they're too good for championship, but were a cog in a relegated pl side and didn't really help the cause much
Arrogant due to the clause?

If so, some times players will only sign if there is a release clause, my mind springs back to Dembele mark 1
No, arrogant that they think they're above the championship as I said!

I disagree. He certainly helped the cause and had a good season overall. He showed he is capable of playing at PL level. He's had one season with us and although I don't want him to go, how much loyalty can we expect from a player who spent his entire career at Man C before this season? What if Man C came in for him? Would that be arrogant/disloyal?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 11, 2021, 01:00:37 PM
Tosin has a £10m escape clause in his contract, at that price he is as good as gone, |no point in keeping Mitro if Parker is not going to use him, Anguissa made it clear a year ago that he will not play down to Championship level . Just hope we manage to hang on to Reed, our team will have to be built around him.
A bit arrogant that some players think they're too good for championship, but were a cog in a relegated pl side and didn't really help the cause much
Arrogant due to the clause?

If so, some times players will only sign if there is a release clause, my mind springs back to Dembele mark 1
No, arrogant that they think they're above the championship as I said!
We already knew that about Anguissa so cant see why we are ticked off about it now.

I thought you meant Tosin and the clause my apologies, but in relation to him the clause doesnt make him arrogant in my opinion, and I have not heard him say he wont play in the championship
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on June 11, 2021, 01:02:28 PM
He showed he is capable of playing at PL level.

Have to disagree. Think Tosin is hugely overrated on here. Looked good for the brief spell when we were defensively solid but that was (a) brief and (b) playing in a triangle with close to the best CB and GK we've ever had (Anderson and Areaola). Think he looked out of his depth and error-prone at times n the second half of the season and think it would have been totally different had he been playing, for example, with Hector/Ream/Bettinelli who our other CBs have had to play with historically. Before joining us he had a season with Blackburn in the Championship where he was statistically almost identical to Hector and IMO that's about his level, ie, a very good Championship CB who may or may not be able to step up to a bottom half PL side.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on June 11, 2021, 01:35:37 PM
Tosin has a £10m escape clause in his contract, at that price he is as good as gone, |no point in keeping Mitro if Parker is not going to use him, Anguissa made it clear a year ago that he will not play down to Championship level . Just hope we manage to hang on to Reed, our team will have to be built around him.
A bit arrogant that some players think they're too good for championship, but were a cog in a relegated pl side and didn't really help the cause much
Arrogant due to the clause?

If so, some times players will only sign if there is a release clause, my mind springs back to Dembele mark 1
No, arrogant that they think they're above the championship as I said!
We already knew that about Anguissa so cant see why we are ticked off about it now.

I thought you meant Tosin and the clause my apologies, but in relation to him the clause doesnt make him arrogant in my opinion, and I have not heard him say he wont play in the championship
Nah Tosin hopefully will stay.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on June 11, 2021, 09:01:30 PM
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/sport/19366376.oxford-city-sign-right-back-zico-asare-fulham/

OXFORD City FC have confirmed the signing of former England youth international Zico Asare.

The 20-year-old right back joins the club after 12 years with Fulham.

He has made appearances for the England under-16s, playing alongside the likes of Arsenal’s Bukayo Saka and Liverpool’s Curtis Jones.

Named after Brazilian football legend Zico, the youngster has been training with City, impressing coaching staff while at the club.

He said: “It feels good to be here. Now it’s time to start the hard work.

“I’m looking forward to having my first taste of senior football now, it’s much more different than academy football, it means more.

“I’m just looking forward to starting the season now.”
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on June 11, 2021, 09:04:05 PM
Hahaha, don't you just love sloppy journalism?

Tottenham-linked Defender Joachim Andersen says that he wants to move back to the Premier League last season after enjoying his spell with Fulham.

The Frenchman moved to Craven Cottage from Lille in October to fill a crucial defensive hole for manager Scott Parker. Despite a shaky start, he asserted himself excellently through the course of the season. In fact, Fulham were not far off staying up, with 13 draws proving crucial in their failing to avoid the drop.


 :005:

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/tottenham-joachim-andersen-shock-transfer-hint
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on June 11, 2021, 09:06:42 PM
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/06/fulham-turn-down-16m-bid-for-mitrovic/

Fulham turn down £16m bid for Mitrovic

Fulham have turned down a £16m offer from Dynamo Moscow for Aleksandar Mitrovic, according to the Sun.

The Cottagers are adamant that the Serbian striker is not for sale even after Scott Parker’s side were relegated from the top flight. The Fulham hierarchy want to keep Mitrovic, who proved so prolific in the Championship in 2019/20 scoring 26 goals, to spearhead their attempt to make an immediate return to the top flight.

But the tabloid claims that Mitrovic is keen to leave Craven Cottage after making just thirteen starts as the Whites went down – with Ivan Cavaleiro often preferred by Parker as a lone striker. There are no shortage of suitors for the 26 year-old who is known to be admired by new Roma boss Jose Mourinho and the West Ham manager David Moyes.

Mitrovic, who has scored 53 goals in 151 appearances for Fulham since joining from Newcastle in January 2018, still has three years to run on his current contract in west Londo
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on June 11, 2021, 10:37:44 PM
I suspect there will now be little movement in the transfer market now until after the Euros have finished. Clubs will be hopeful of spotting some outstanding talent they have previously overlooked.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 11, 2021, 11:26:43 PM
He showed he is capable of playing at PL level.

Have to disagree. Think Tosin is hugely overrated on here. Looked good for the brief spell when we were defensively solid but that was (a) brief and (b) playing in a triangle with close to the best CB and GK we've ever had (Anderson and Areaola). Think he looked out of his depth and error-prone at times n the second half of the season and think it would have been totally different had he been playing, for example, with Hector/Ream/Bettinelli who our other CBs have had to play with historically. Before joining us he had a season with Blackburn in the Championship where he was statistically almost identical to Hector and IMO that's about his level, ie, a very good Championship CB who may or may not be able to step up to a bottom half PL side.

Very good analysis. I trust statistics a lot and the statistics say that Tosin is a "top centre-back when alongside Anderson", but before that time he was a "decent centre-back comparable to Hector", only much younger so better for the long-term. The statistics could a) indicate Anderson is the difference,  b) indicate Tosin is improving or c) the statistic could be misleading. I suspect a little truth with all three, but the most important of the three was Anderson improving Tosins statistics.

I will be saddened to lose Tosin for £10m, because I like him as a player, but we will make a healthy FFP profit on him around £9m and it has to happen before 6th July so TK has 7 weeks to use the money if he needs some before the window closes. Lets see if Tosin is still here on the 7th July, but his lose will be felt more if we get promoted again.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: ianthailand on June 12, 2021, 02:10:27 AM
Rational: Don't forget Man City get 20% of any fee so our profit is more around the 6.5 ML.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Craven Mad on June 12, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
Hahaha, don't you just love sloppy journalism?

Tottenham-linked Defender Joachim Andersen says that he wants to move back to the Premier League last season after enjoying his spell with Fulham.

The Frenchman moved to Craven Cottage from Lille in October to fill a crucial defensive hole for manager Scott Parker. Despite a shaky start, he asserted himself excellently through the course of the season. In fact, Fulham were not far off staying up, with 13 draws proving crucial in their failing to avoid the drop.


 :005:

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/tottenham-joachim-andersen-shock-transfer-hint

Also ‘from Lille’ - he came from Lyon!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JoelH5 on June 12, 2021, 09:58:09 AM
He showed he is capable of playing at PL level.

Have to disagree. Think Tosin is hugely overrated on here. Looked good for the brief spell when we were defensively solid but that was (a) brief and (b) playing in a triangle with close to the best CB and GK we've ever had (Anderson and Areaola). Think he looked out of his depth and error-prone at times n the second half of the season and think it would have been totally different had he been playing, for example, with Hector/Ream/Bettinelli who our other CBs have had to play with historically. Before joining us he had a season with Blackburn in the Championship where he was statistically almost identical to Hector and IMO that's about his level, ie, a very good Championship CB who may or may not be able to step up to a bottom half PL side.

Very good analysis. I trust statistics a lot and the statistics say that Tosin is a "top centre-back when alongside Anderson", but before that time he was a "decent centre-back comparable to Hector", only much younger so better for the long-term. The statistics could a) indicate Anderson is the difference,  b) indicate Tosin is improving or c) the statistic could be misleading. I suspect a little truth with all three, but the most important of the three was Anderson improving Tosins statistics.

I will be saddened to lose Tosin for £10m, because I like him as a player, but we will make a healthy FFP profit on him around £9m and it has to happen before 6th July so TK has 7 weeks to use the money if he needs some before the window closes. Lets see if Tosin is still here on the 7th July, but his lose will be felt more if we get promoted again.

The issue is we need to find a good player, worth 9 mill, who wants to join us in the Championship
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 12, 2021, 10:34:29 AM
He showed he is capable of playing at PL level.

Have to disagree. Think Tosin is hugely overrated on here. Looked good for the brief spell when we were defensively solid but that was (a) brief and (b) playing in a triangle with close to the best CB and GK we've ever had (Anderson and Areaola). Think he looked out of his depth and error-prone at times n the second half of the season and think it would have been totally different had he been playing, for example, with Hector/Ream/Bettinelli who our other CBs have had to play with historically. Before joining us he had a season with Blackburn in the Championship where he was statistically almost identical to Hector and IMO that's about his level, ie, a very good Championship CB who may or may not be able to step up to a bottom half PL side.

Very good analysis. I trust statistics a lot and the statistics say that Tosin is a "top centre-back when alongside Anderson", but before that time he was a "decent centre-back comparable to Hector", only much younger so better for the long-term. The statistics could a) indicate Anderson is the difference,  b) indicate Tosin is improving or c) the statistic could be misleading. I suspect a little truth with all three, but the most important of the three was Anderson improving Tosins statistics.

I will be saddened to lose Tosin for £10m, because I like him as a player, but we will make a healthy FFP profit on him around £9m and it has to happen before 6th July so TK has 7 weeks to use the money if he needs some before the window closes. Lets see if Tosin is still here on the 7th July, but his lose will be felt more if we get promoted again.

There are three kinds of lies,
There are lies, damned lies and statistics.
Statistics are used to suit ones own narrative, and the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 12, 2021, 10:57:15 AM
He showed he is capable of playing at PL level.

Have to disagree. Think Tosin is hugely overrated on here. Looked good for the brief spell when we were defensively solid but that was (a) brief and (b) playing in a triangle with close to the best CB and GK we've ever had (Anderson and Areaola). Think he looked out of his depth and error-prone at times n the second half of the season and think it would have been totally different had he been playing, for example, with Hector/Ream/Bettinelli who our other CBs have had to play with historically. Before joining us he had a season with Blackburn in the Championship where he was statistically almost identical to Hector and IMO that's about his level, ie, a very good Championship CB who may or may not be able to step up to a bottom half PL side.

This is how I think about him too.  He's good, but he's not the Messiah.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on June 12, 2021, 11:50:15 AM
He showed he is capable of playing at PL level.

Have to disagree. Think Tosin is hugely overrated on here. Looked good for the brief spell when we were defensively solid but that was (a) brief and (b) playing in a triangle with close to the best CB and GK we've ever had (Anderson and Areaola). Think he looked out of his depth and error-prone at times n the second half of the season and think it would have been totally different had he been playing, for example, with Hector/Ream/Bettinelli who our other CBs have had to play with historically. Before joining us he had a season with Blackburn in the Championship where he was statistically almost identical to Hector and IMO that's about his level, ie, a very good Championship CB who may or may not be able to step up to a bottom half PL side.

This is how I think about him too.  He's good, but he's not the Messiah.

He’s currently the best centre back at the club and won’t be that easy to replace. The thought of more Ream and Odoi is an alarming one. Lets hope he stays.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Buffalo76 on June 12, 2021, 12:05:24 PM
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/sport/19366376.oxford-city-sign-right-back-zico-asare-fulham/

OXFORD City FC have confirmed the signing of former England youth international Zico Asare.

The 20-year-old right back joins the club after 12 years with Fulham.

He has made appearances for the England under-16s, playing alongside the likes of Arsenal’s Bukayo Saka and Liverpool’s Curtis Jones.

Named after Brazilian football legend Zico, the youngster has been training with City, impressing coaching staff while at the club.

He said: “It feels good to be here. Now it’s time to start the hard work.

“I’m looking forward to having my first taste of senior football now, it’s much more different than academy football, it means more.

“I’m just looking forward to starting the season now.”



Might share his name but clearly didn't share Zico's talent 😃
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WolverineFFC on June 12, 2021, 12:19:31 PM
He showed he is capable of playing at PL level.

Have to disagree. Think Tosin is hugely overrated on here. Looked good for the brief spell when we were defensively solid but that was (a) brief and (b) playing in a triangle with close to the best CB and GK we've ever had (Anderson and Areaola). Think he looked out of his depth and error-prone at times n the second half of the season and think it would have been totally different had he been playing, for example, with Hector/Ream/Bettinelli who our other CBs have had to play with historically. Before joining us he had a season with Blackburn in the Championship where he was statistically almost identical to Hector and IMO that's about his level, ie, a very good Championship CB who may or may not be able to step up to a bottom half PL side.

Very good analysis. I trust statistics a lot and the statistics say that Tosin is a "top centre-back when alongside Anderson", but before that time he was a "decent centre-back comparable to Hector", only much younger so better for the long-term. The statistics could a) indicate Anderson is the difference,  b) indicate Tosin is improving or c) the statistic could be misleading. I suspect a little truth with all three, but the most important of the three was Anderson improving Tosins statistics.

I will be saddened to lose Tosin for £10m, because I like him as a player, but we will make a healthy FFP profit on him around £9m and it has to happen before 6th July so TK has 7 weeks to use the money if he needs some before the window closes. Lets see if Tosin is still here on the 7th July, but his lose will be felt more if we get promoted again.

The issue is we need to find a good player, worth 9 mill, who wants to join us in the Championship

Actually, the sale of a player for profit such as Tosin can create a windfall to sign another player(s). The Khan's have a ton of cash, so their transfer movements are not dependent on financing. Only what they feel is a good deal and whether they do or do not wish to spend the money.

If Tosin nets 6-7 million in profit, for FFP purposes the club could purchase players for upwards of 20-25 million without risking a "loss". The key is to not mess it up like they have with other purchases, ie Knock, Mawson, etc.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sunburywhite on June 12, 2021, 12:22:06 PM
He showed he is capable of playing at PL level.

Have to disagree. Think Tosin is hugely overrated on here. Looked good for the brief spell when we were defensively solid but that was (a) brief and (b) playing in a triangle with close to the best CB and GK we've ever had (Anderson and Areaola). Think he looked out of his depth and error-prone at times n the second half of the season and think it would have been totally different had he been playing, for example, with Hector/Ream/Bettinelli who our other CBs have had to play with historically. Before joining us he had a season with Blackburn in the Championship where he was statistically almost identical to Hector and IMO that's about his level, ie, a very good Championship CB who may or may not be able to step up to a bottom half PL side.

This is how I think about him too.  He's good, but he's not the Messiah.

He's just a naughty boy
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on June 12, 2021, 01:13:30 PM
Just think how long we took to find replacements for Hangeland and Hughes, we struggled for a long time before Tosin and Andersen arrived with many failures and some of them cost a few pounds.
We need to keep Tosin if at all possible.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Arthur on June 12, 2021, 02:47:16 PM
Very good analysis. I trust statistics a lot and the statistics say that Tosin is a "top centre-back when alongside Anderson", but before that time he was a "decent centre-back comparable to Hector", only much younger so better for the long-term. The statistics could a) indicate Anderson is the difference,  b) indicate Tosin is improving or c) the statistic could be misleading. I suspect a little truth with all three, but the most important of the three was Anderson improving Tosins statistics.

I'm not aware of any of the statistics connected to Tosin or Andersen, but in saying 'Andersen is the difference' (in the case of Tosin's improvement), I wonder whether Andersen's statistics also improved. And if they did, does this not indicate that both players benefited from the partnership, not just Tosin? In which case, does this not raise the possibility that a centre-back pairing of Hector and Tosin could, likewise, be beneficial to both players' performance levels?

May I also ask, TRF, why you suspect Tosin's statistics may be misleading?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: colinwhite on June 13, 2021, 08:19:01 AM
Tosin is a decent young player who had a decent season.he is not the finished article and had his ups and downs but he was an excellent buy and I hope and believe we will keep him. He has his faults but I beleive he will only get better.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 13, 2021, 08:37:48 AM
He showed he is capable of playing at PL level.

Have to disagree. Think Tosin is hugely overrated on here. Looked good for the brief spell when we were defensively solid but that was (a) brief and (b) playing in a triangle with close to the best CB and GK we've ever had (Anderson and Areaola). Think he looked out of his depth and error-prone at times n the second half of the season and think it would have been totally different had he been playing, for example, with Hector/Ream/Bettinelli who our other CBs have had to play with historically. Before joining us he had a season with Blackburn in the Championship where he was statistically almost identical to Hector and IMO that's about his level, ie, a very good Championship CB who may or may not be able to step up to a bottom half PL side.

Very good analysis. I trust statistics a lot and the statistics say that Tosin is a "top centre-back when alongside Anderson", but before that time he was a "decent centre-back comparable to Hector", only much younger so better for the long-term. The statistics could a) indicate Anderson is the difference,  b) indicate Tosin is improving or c) the statistic could be misleading. I suspect a little truth with all three, but the most important of the three was Anderson improving Tosins statistics.

I will be saddened to lose Tosin for £10m, because I like him as a player, but we will make a healthy FFP profit on him around £9m and it has to happen before 6th July so TK has 7 weeks to use the money if he needs some before the window closes. Lets see if Tosin is still here on the 7th July, but his lose will be felt more if we get promoted again.

TRF Unlike you and that half wit you fawn over, I don’t need statistics when I can see more with my own eyes.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 14, 2021, 04:51:40 AM

TRF Unlike you and that half wit you fawn over, I don’t need statistics when I can see more with my own eyes.

Well, you can watch with you eyes and tell me that both Kamara and MLM were poor in the premier league, and statistics can tell me that too. But watching MLM and Kamara for Fulham could you tell that MLM would do well in the Belgium League but Kamara wasn’t upto Ligue Un, unfortunately statistics cannot tell that well either.

 I also doubt many people (apart from Brain Clough) can watch a player shoot and miss, but still know that the player can finish. Most Fulham fans think Ryan Sessegnon is a good finisher, but that is only because he finished many of his chances at the cottage (which is just another statistic) in truth statistics at his other clubs indicate his finishing is a little hit and miss.

No doubt statistics are partly responsible for us buying players like Fabri, Christie, Tosin, Bryan, Robinson, Onamah, Mitro,  Cav and Knockaert. But if we listened more to statistics we wouldnt have bought Seri, who has played some super human games before coming to Fulham scouts may have seen those games but statistics would tell you he was inconsistent, on the decline and poorly suited to cooler days. In the end, scouts probably watched him play a dozen brilliant games and decided to ignore his poor inconsistent statistics. We would wise to pay more for players with good statistics, and offer less for players with poor or inconsistent statistics.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: vancouver on June 14, 2021, 06:48:02 AM
Will Nightingale is somebody id rate as a CB signing.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 14, 2021, 07:58:50 AM

TRF Unlike you and that half wit you fawn over, I don’t need statistics when I can see more with my own eyes.

Well, you can watch with you eyes and tell me that both Kamara and MLM were poor in the premier league, and statistics can tell me that too. But watching MLM and Kamara for Fulham could you tell that MLM would do well in the Belgium League but Kamara wasn’t upto Ligue Un, unfortunately statistics cannot tell that well either.

 I also doubt many people (apart from Brain Clough) can watch a player shoot and miss, but still know that the player can finish. Most Fulham fans think Ryan Sessegnon is a good finisher, but that is only because he finished many of his chances at the cottage (which is just another statistic) in truth statistics at his other clubs indicate his finishing is a little hit and miss.

No doubt statistics are partly responsible for us buying players like Fabri, Christie, Tosin, Bryan, Robinson, Onamah, Mitro,  Cav and Knockaert. But if we listened more to statistics we wouldnt have bought Seri, who has played some super human games before coming to Fulham scouts may have seen those games but statistics would tell you he was inconsistent, on the decline and poorly suited to cooler days. In the end, scouts probably watched him play a dozen brilliant games and decided to ignore his poor inconsistent statistics. We would wise to pay more for players with good statistics, and offer less for players with poor or inconsistent statistics.

I rest my case and you have just proved my point and what I have insisted regarding the self inflicting scatter gun approach by the owners son and the way he uses it like a man with his eyes shut throwing a dart at a dart board. As for Seri it was an expensive mistake but just one of many embarrassing mistakes and errors of judgement due to his obsession with the dreaded stats he has made as a short cut to this folly. Seri is a classic example of a player looking better in an overseas League which is far from the physical challenge and quality of competition of the English League and it showed like a boy in a mans world very daunting. In England to see a player at his worst and most vulnerable you watch him in away games where the fans are partisan and ready to give an opponent a hard time, therefore testing his resolve and character to see how he responds under pressure. Not watch him at home in his own environment where he is most comfortable. It is not like the game TK plays on his lap top “Football Manager”.
But thank you for proving my point for me.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on June 14, 2021, 12:19:28 PM
Will Nightingale is somebody id rate as a CB signing.

I was in his form at school, he’s a top lad and a leader but I’m not co conceded he’s a top end championship/ premier league CB. He’s 26 now so unlikely to improve astronomicallly
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Ronnief on June 14, 2021, 03:29:28 PM
He’s not quick enough even for Div 1, according to AFC supporters  092.gif
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: whitejc on June 15, 2021, 04:07:33 PM
LUTON TOWN CONFIRM SIGNING OF 22-Y/O PREVIOUSLY LINKED WITH FULHAM, MILLWALL

Luton Town have today completed the signing of Allan Campbell from Motherwell, confirms the club.

Campbell joins the Hatters for an undisclosed fee from Scottish side Motherwell on a permanent deal, subject to international clearance.

The 22-year-old becomes Nathan Jones’ third signing so far of the summer window having already acquired the likes of Reece Burke from Hull City and Fred Onyedinma from Wycombe Wanderers.

Jones is looking to build a team capable of pushing on and improving on their mid-table position but safety will be the first concern on his mind.

Campbell joins from Motherwell where he has spent his whole career so far after joining their academy at the age of 10.

He turned out 159 times for the Scottish club, scoring 16 goals in that period but now goes to a new challenge a Kenilworth Road to compete in one of the most competitive leagues around.

The midfielder is also a Scotland U21 international, representing his country on 24 occasions, and will be hoping his move to Luton can help to ignite his career in the Scotland first team with similar moves helping the likes of John McGinn and Kenny McLean who are now regulars in the squad.

Thoughts?
This could well work out to be a great move for both Campbell and Luton. The 22-year-old will get the chance to test himself against different types of opposition which can help to mold him into a more well-rounded player.

The move south of the border could also improve his chances of eventually playing in the Premier League with top sides always looking to improve their squads with players from the EFL.

For Luton, this is a player that will improve their squad drastically, he has impressed with Motherwell and will no doubt gives Jones a different dynamic and option in midfield.

Campbell could well find his feet early and hit the ground running should he be given the chance.



https://the72.co.uk/239200/luton-town-confirm-signing-of-22-y-o-previously-linked-with-fulham-millwall/
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Friendsoffulham on June 16, 2021, 09:04:52 AM

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Bronaldinho on June 16, 2021, 09:47:53 AM


Can imagine this happening if Tosin goes early.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JoelH5 on June 16, 2021, 10:51:24 AM


Can imagine this happening if Tosin goes early.

We need a CB anyway, after Andersen leaving, even if Tosin stays
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on June 16, 2021, 11:54:57 AM


Bloody hell he's only 23? Feels like he's been around for ages without breaking through properly but that's still pretty young, anyone got an insight into how he's been at Bournemouth?

Edit*

just taken a look at Bournemouth Forums and seen a few mentioned that he was 'very good once fit'... more CB injury woes? Might be worth a punt, perhaps him and Tosin if alongside eachother could form a partnership potentially capable of stepping up again if we go up.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Porthogs FC on June 16, 2021, 01:23:01 PM


Bloody hell he's only 23? Feels like he's been around for ages without breaking through properly but that's still pretty young, anyone got an insight into how he's been at Bournemouth?

Edit*

just taken a look at Bournemouth Forums and seen a few mentioned that he was 'very good once fit'... more CB injury woes? Might be worth a punt, perhaps him and Tosin if alongside eachother could form a partnership potentially capable of stepping up again if we go up.


Agreed - although if we have Tosin, Ream, Mawson, Hector, CCV, Kongolo, MLM, surely we move 1 or 2 out. Especially if we play 4 at the back, don’t need seven CB’s. Would LIKE MLM and Mawson out, but feel it would be Tosin and MLM.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on June 16, 2021, 01:54:05 PM


Bloody hell he's only 23? Feels like he's been around for ages without breaking through properly but that's still pretty young, anyone got an insight into how he's been at Bournemouth?

Edit*

Impressed me in their play-off match. Tough tackling, uncompromising but small for a centre back by modern standards.

just taken a look at Bournemouth Forums and seen a few mentioned that he was 'very good once fit'... more CB injury woes? Might be worth a punt, perhaps him and Tosin if alongside eachother could form a partnership potentially capable of stepping up again if we go up.


Agreed - although if we have Tosin, Ream, Mawson, Hector, CCV, Kongolo, MLM, surely we move 1 or 2 out. Especially if we play 4 at the back, don’t need seven CB’s. Would LIKE MLM and Mawson out, but feel it would be Tosin and MLM.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on June 16, 2021, 03:30:09 PM
Surely we will not now make any new signings until a new manager is in position.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Southdowns White on June 16, 2021, 03:36:26 PM
Surely we will not now make any new signings until a new manager is in position.
And that could be weeks!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on June 16, 2021, 03:37:04 PM
Surely the last thing we need is a CB. I mean of course there is a chance that Hector, Tosin, Mawson, Kongolo, Ream, Odoi and MLM will all be injured at the same time (for Kongolo and Mawson it's guaranteed) but is there any other position where we're going to have 7 levels of backup?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on June 16, 2021, 04:39:26 PM
We need CB’s to fill the bench  086.gif
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on June 16, 2021, 05:05:55 PM
Surely the last thing we need is a CB. I mean of course there is a chance that Hector, Tosin, Mawson, Kongolo, Ream, Odoi and MLM will all be injured at the same time (for Kongolo and Mawson it's guaranteed) but is there any other position where we're going to have 7 levels of backup?

Tosin, Kongolo and Mawson are the only decent centre backs  we have and as you say Kongolo and Mawson can’t be relied on so on that basis we need a partner for Tosin. Just the thought of seeing Ream, Odoi and Le Marchand as anything more than back up would be concerning. I hope that Odoi and Le Marchand are able to find other clubs in the window.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on June 16, 2021, 05:15:13 PM
Surely the last thing we need is a CB. I mean of course there is a chance that Hector, Tosin, Mawson, Kongolo, Ream, Odoi and MLM will all be injured at the same time (for Kongolo and Mawson it's guaranteed) but is there any other position where we're going to have 7 levels of backup?

Tosin, Kongolo and Mawson are the only decent centre backs  we have and as you say Kongolo and Mawson can’t be relied on so on that basis we need a partner for Tosin. Just the thought of seeing Ream, Odoi and Le Marchand as anything more than back up would be concerning. I hope that Odoi and Le Marchand are able to find other clubs in the window.

My word. Arguably our best CB Hector not even mentioned because he fell out of favour with Parker. May as well presume Mitro won't be playing next year either then. And Kongolo who has two false hips and has played about 30 seconds of football in the last 12 years gets a mention.

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on June 16, 2021, 05:28:03 PM
Surely the last thing we need is a CB. I mean of course there is a chance that Hector, Tosin, Mawson, Kongolo, Ream, Odoi and MLM will all be injured at the same time (for Kongolo and Mawson it's guaranteed) but is there any other position where we're going to have 7 levels of backup?

Tosin, Kongolo and Mawson are the only decent centre backs  we have and as you say Kongolo and Mawson can’t be relied on so on that basis we need a partner for Tosin. Just the thought of seeing Ream, Odoi and Le Marchand as anything more than back up would be concerning. I hope that Odoi and Le Marchand are able to find other clubs in the window.

My word. Arguably our best CB Hector not even mentioned because he fell out of favour with Parker. May as well presume Mitro won't be playing next year either then. And Kongolo who has two false hips and has played about 30 seconds of football in the last 12 years gets a mention.

Statto I don't know that you can blame SP for Hector's strange loss of form. He was outstanding Jan-March Lockdown and then he seemed a completely different player, nervous, indecisive . For me after watching football for 60 years I can't explain it.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on June 16, 2021, 05:34:14 PM
In view of his two recent performances in premier league matches I would say Ream may well have another good championship season in him. Sorting out the four players to be our two centre backs for next season is a priority for the new manager.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on June 16, 2021, 05:38:43 PM
Let's not rewrite history Jim. Hector went from looking PL quality to somewhat average Championship quality but was still part of a solid defence in the run-in and play offs despite his partner being Tim Traffic Cone Ream. He looked totally overwhelmed in those first few PL games but so did everyone. Tosin followed a similar trajectory - started off looking PL quality, looked out of his depth second half of the season, and I expect that if his next match was home to Arsenal with Ream and Odoi alongside him he'd complete the fall from grace to basket case. The lesson is surely to consider players' multi-year track records rather than reacting to the short-term highs and lows. As to who's to blame for the lows, well there can be all sorts of reasons but the coach's job is motivation so that's the first place I'd look.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: colinwhite on June 16, 2021, 05:58:59 PM
Let's not rewrite history Jim. Hector went from looking PL quality to somewhat average Championship quality but was still part of a solid defence in the run-in and play offs despite his partner being Tim Traffic Cone Ream. He looked totally overwhelmed in those first few PL games but so did everyone. Tosin followed a similar trajectory - started off looking PL quality, looked out of his depth second half of the season, and I expect that if his next match was home to Arsenal with Ream and Odoi alongside him he'd complete the fall from grace to basket case. The lesson is surely to consider players' multi-year track records rather than reacting to the short-term highs and lows. As to who's to blame for the lows, well there can be all sorts of reasons but the coach's job is motivation so that's the first place I'd look.

One thing parker did get right was motivating the team. slag him off ,but not for that
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on June 16, 2021, 06:10:03 PM
Let's not rewrite history Jim. Hector went from looking PL quality to somewhat average Championship quality but was still part of a solid defence in the run-in and play offs despite his partner being Tim Traffic Cone Ream. He looked totally overwhelmed in those first few PL games but so did everyone. Tosin followed a similar trajectory - started off looking PL quality, looked out of his depth second half of the season, and I expect that if his next match was home to Arsenal with Ream and Odoi alongside him he'd complete the fall from grace to basket case. The lesson is surely to consider players' multi-year track records rather than reacting to the short-term highs and lows. As to who's to blame for the lows, well there can be all sorts of reasons but the coach's job is motivation so that's the first place I'd look.

That's my point Statto your version is inaccurate in my opinion. I remembered a number of us writing on message boards asking what had happened to Hector in the lockdown (just like Mitro came back in different shape). Hector was a nervous wreck. One regular contributor wondered whether having his first child might have been the cause although that left most of us scratching our heads. Whatever Parker has to answer for it's not this
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on June 16, 2021, 06:20:28 PM
Let's not rewrite history Jim. Hector went from looking PL quality to somewhat average Championship quality but was still part of a solid defence in the run-in and play offs despite his partner being Tim Traffic Cone Ream. He looked totally overwhelmed in those first few PL games but so did everyone. Tosin followed a similar trajectory - started off looking PL quality, looked out of his depth second half of the season, and I expect that if his next match was home to Arsenal with Ream and Odoi alongside him he'd complete the fall from grace to basket case. The lesson is surely to consider players' multi-year track records rather than reacting to the short-term highs and lows. As to who's to blame for the lows, well there can be all sorts of reasons but the coach's job is motivation so that's the first place I'd look.

That's my point Statto your version is inaccurate in my opinion. I remembered a number of us writing on message boards asking what had happened to Hector in the lockdown (just like Mitro came back in different shape). Hector was a nervous wreck. One regular contributor wondered whether having his first child might have been the cause although that left most of us scratching our heads. Whatever Parker has to answer for it's not this

Not really disagreeing with you Jim so not sure what the argument is. I don't dispute that he was poor - my point is just that every player has been poor at some point (Mitrovic best recent example) and it makes no sense to write them off because of it. As to whether Parker is to blame, that's pure speculation so your guess might be different to mine but that's all it is, a guess.

@colinwhite you know we normally agree but if you think that team was motivated when it got 2 points from 10 games at the most important time of the season, sorry but you need your head examined. I used to buy into the Parker rhetoric and believe he was a good motivator but seeing those players mentally capitulate and go from favourites to finish above Newcastle to finishing 17 (seventeen!!) pts below them showed Parker is most definitely not a good motivator.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RaySmith on June 16, 2021, 07:12:41 PM
2 from 10 points, but should have at least 4, and possibly 6 - with the Man U goal in the 1-1 draw blatantly offside, and the Arsenal equaliser  at their place controversial to say the  least.

Agree that Hector's  falling apart in the Prem, seemed inexplicable, and psychologically related, and likely  to do with issues outside the game, though his lack of confidence v Prem attackers possibly hints at why he hasn't made the top grade, when he'd looked so accomplished for us in the Champ.

And wasn't his form in the Champ. to do with Parker's motivationally skills, if Parker is held responsible for not motivating him in the Prem?

Though I don't believe that these highly paid elite players, contending for such high stakes, who've made it to this level against  great competition, should need much outer motivation.

But Parker always expressed confidence in the the team, and praised them, and seemed a very  good leader and motivator, who was much liked and respected by  the players.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on June 16, 2021, 07:29:47 PM
Let's not rewrite history Jim. Hector went from looking PL quality to somewhat average Championship quality but was still part of a solid defence in the run-in and play offs despite his partner being Tim Traffic Cone Ream. He looked totally overwhelmed in those first few PL games but so did everyone. Tosin followed a similar trajectory - started off looking PL quality, looked out of his depth second half of the season, and I expect that if his next match was home to Arsenal with Ream and Odoi alongside him he'd complete the fall from grace to basket case. The lesson is surely to consider players' multi-year track records rather than reacting to the short-term highs and lows. As to who's to blame for the lows, well there can be all sorts of reasons but the coach's job is motivation so that's the first place I'd look.

That's my point Statto your version is inaccurate in my opinion. I remembered a number of us writing on message boards asking what had happened to Hector in the lockdown (just like Mitro came back in different shape). Hector was a nervous wreck. One regular contributor wondered whether having his first child might have been the cause although that left most of us scratching our heads. Whatever Parker has to answer for it's not this

Not really disagreeing with you Jim so not sure what the argument is. I don't dispute that he was poor - my point is just that every player has been poor at some point (Mitrovic best recent example) and it makes no sense to write them off because of it. As to whether Parker is to blame, that's pure speculation so your guess might be different to mine but that's all it is, a guess.

@colinwhite you know we normally agree but if you think that team was motivated when it got 2 points from 10 games at the most important time of the season, sorry but you need your head examined. I used to buy into the Parker rhetoric and believe he was a good motivator but seeing those players mentally capitulate and go from favourites to finish above Newcastle to finishing 17 (seventeen!!) pts below them showed Parker is most definitely not a good motivator.

Statto I think it's more optimist v pessimist. I see your argument & by season end Mitro was flying - hence making that decision by SP really strange in the light of our need for a natural striker. And if you can look in your crystal ball & tell me you see good Hector - Hector Mark 1 who appeared in Jan 2020 reappearing I'll be first to buy you a drink. My fear is that Hector Mark 2 , the post lockdown version, is what we've got. I watched him closely v Brentford in the League Cup (?) where he avoided aerial challenges, and Burnley in the FA Cup where he was really shocking. If we can see the Hector of last January 12 months return nobody would be happier than me. He, Tosin, Kongolo with Ream (it's a long season) would be the best central defence in the Championship. As you say all players go through a bad spell...
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on June 16, 2021, 07:48:42 PM
Would expect to see us linked with Ayew, Grimes and Hourihane if we get cooper to replace SP...all decent signings imo
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on June 16, 2021, 08:02:02 PM
BIRMINGHAM CITYBIRMINGHAM CITY LOCKED IN TRANSFER TUSSLE WITH FULHAM FOR POTENTIAL AGREEMENT WITH 10-GOAL FORWARD

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/birmingham-city-locked-in-transfer-tussle-with-fulham-for-potential-agreement-with-10-goal-forward/
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WolverineFFC on June 16, 2021, 11:26:21 PM


Can imagine this happening if Tosin goes early.

Followed CCV since he was a youth player. Always been a fan of him. One of those understated but effective CB's. If Tosin is moving on, would be happy to see him brought in to partner with Hector or Kongolo.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: love4ffc on June 16, 2021, 11:56:13 PM
A quick note on Hector, IMHO he is a squad player for the Championship level.  He had a short decent period there but then showed his true colors in my eyes at being a red card waiting to happen.  Just for context, I have been watching him in the CONCACAF and he really hasn’t shown anything special that would make me think that he should be a starter for next season.  He recently played a holding defending midfielder for Jamaica and again several times looked like he was going to get a red card. 

Fulham need a better option IMO.  Let the stoning begin  086.gif
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 17, 2021, 04:56:38 AM
Very good analysis. I trust statistics a lot and the statistics say that Tosin is a "top centre-back when alongside Anderson", but before that time he was a "decent centre-back comparable to Hector", only much younger so better for the long-term. The statistics could a) indicate Anderson is the difference,  b) indicate Tosin is improving or c) the statistic could be misleading. I suspect a little truth with all three, but the most important of the three was Anderson improving Tosins statistics.

I'm not aware of any of the statistics connected to Tosin or Andersen, but in saying 'Andersen is the difference' (in the case of Tosin's improvement), I wonder whether Andersen's statistics also improved. And if they did, does this not indicate that both players benefited from the partnership, not just Tosin? In which case, does this not raise the possibility that a centre-back pairing of Hector and Tosin could, likewise, be beneficial to both players' performance levels? May I also ask, TRF, why you suspect Tosin's statistics may be misleading?

The reason that I suspect Tosin's statistics are misleadingly high is twofold.
Firstly, Tosin who scored statistics went from 6.99 in the championship to 6.73 in the premier league (equal to about 7.13 in the championship), which is a fairly significant rise in a season.
Secondly, Joachim Andersen who scored a rating of 6.78 seems quite low for two reasons as it is almost identical to Tosin and is lower than some of his previous seasons at Sampdoria (yet he is suppose to have played better).

I believe Joachim Andersen who scored performance this season should be around +0.1 higher (at 6.88 placings him as the 14th best center back in the premier league) and Tosin's who scored rating this season should be potential 0.1 lower (at 6.63 placing him around the level of Eric Dyer as CB), which would translate to about 7.03 who scored performance in the championship, which is about the improvement expected from a player his age.

Assuming Tosin continues improving at that rate, he should be the best central defender in the championship but not by much and that seems about correct to me. I think his statistics are misleading as he is closer to Hector before lockdown in quality (although he is marginally better than Hector before lockdown) than he is to the far superior Anderson.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: vancouver on June 24, 2021, 10:42:51 PM
Marcondes is available on a free transfer. Id imagine he has some prem interest, and i realize we had a tiff with him over his comments before our final win.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: roberto w6 on June 25, 2021, 01:25:21 PM
Marcondes is available on a free transfer. Id imagine he has some prem interest, and i realize we had a tiff with him over his comments before our final win.

I'd take a punt on him. Always looked good in the (admittedly few) games I've seen him in. You'd assume he would welcome a move without the upheaval of moving house etc unless he intends going back to Denmark or a big PL team comes in for him
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on June 25, 2021, 02:14:05 PM
There is no chance of a Premier League team signing Marcondes. The fact that Brentford don’t want him should be sufficient to recognise that. He wasn’t a regular starter at Brentford either. It would be a backwards step if we start to sign players of his calibre.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on June 25, 2021, 03:48:00 PM
Marcondes is available on a free transfer. Id imagine he has some prem interest, and i realize we had a tiff with him over his comments before our final win.

I'd take a punt on him. Always looked good in the (admittedly few) games I've seen him in. You'd assume he would welcome a move without the upheaval of moving house etc unless he intends going back to Denmark or a big PL team comes in for him

Hate the phrase 'take a punt'.

Our transfers need to be based on a clear strategy. And whats the point of filling the bench with players in their mid 2os when you can promote youth or buy a start and relegate a current player to the subs...
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 25, 2021, 10:56:30 PM
Greek club Aris Salonika have tabled a bid worth over £4,000,000 for Abou Kamala according to Sky Sports
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Asotosyios on June 25, 2021, 11:05:58 PM
Greek club Aris Salonika have tabled a bid worth over £4,000,000 for Abou Kamala according to Sky Sports
That can't be true. Aris doesn't have that much money and I don't think he has ever paid that much for any player.

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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 25, 2021, 11:15:19 PM
Greek club Aris Salonika have tabled a bid worth over £4,000,000 for Abou Kamala according to Sky Sports
That can't be true. Aris doesn't have that much money and I don't think he has ever paid that much for any player.

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Just going by this…

https://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Asotosyios on June 25, 2021, 11:17:29 PM
Greek club Aris Salonika have tabled a bid worth over £4,000,000 for Abou Kamala according to Sky Sports
That can't be true. Aris doesn't have that much money and I don't think he has ever paid that much for any player.

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Just going by this…

https://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre
I know, I saw it as well. Aris doesn't have that money though. I doubt they will spend £4m for all their transfers.

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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on June 25, 2021, 11:25:44 PM
Greek club Aris Salonika have tabled a bid worth over £4,000,000 for Abou Kamala according to Sky Sports
That can't be true. Aris doesn't have that much money and I don't think he has ever paid that much for any player.

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Just going by this…

https://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre
I know, I saw it as well. Aris doesn't have that money though. I doubt they will spend £4m for all their transfers.

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Maybe they meant PAOK Salonika, but would think they will aim higher
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Asotosyios on June 25, 2021, 11:34:11 PM
Greek club Aris Salonika have tabled a bid worth over £4,000,000 for Abou Kamala according to Sky Sports
That can't be true. Aris doesn't have that much money and I don't think he has ever paid that much for any player.

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Just going by this…

https://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre
I know, I saw it as well. Aris doesn't have that money though. I doubt they will spend £4m for all their transfers.

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Maybe they meant PAOK Salonika, but would think they will aim higher
PAOK has definitely deeper pockets, but I would be very surprised if any team offered £4m for Kamara.

I know a lot people don't rate him, but I would not mind us keeping him in a backup striker/winger role next season.

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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mullers OG on June 26, 2021, 11:12:48 AM
£4 million! They must be out of their minds. He’s overpriced at a tenth of that. Just hope the rumour’s true.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on June 26, 2021, 12:04:10 PM
Didn't we pay £5 million for him?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 26, 2021, 12:22:06 PM
If we're not biting their hands off then we as a club must be mental.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FFC In Oz on June 26, 2021, 04:25:08 PM
Didn't we pay £5 million for him?

Can't remember exactly how much we paid for him, but we shouldn't be getting anywhere near half back as a ROI if we do sell
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rebel on June 26, 2021, 04:48:29 PM
When Parker goes, I think Omonah might follow, possibly Cav too.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: gang on June 26, 2021, 05:11:27 PM
When Parker goes, I think Omonah might follow, possibly Cav too.

No big miss, except Cav when he takes a shot.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Twig on June 27, 2021, 09:44:02 AM
With the possible exception of Mitro and BDR I think we need fresh blood up front, some of which could conceivably come from our own youth. Other than that I’d like to see one or two fresh faces. Time for Knock, AK and Cav to move on I feel.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on June 27, 2021, 10:08:41 AM
When Parker goes, I think Omonah might follow, possibly Cav too.

No big miss, except Cav when he takes a shot.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on June 29, 2021, 01:28:31 AM
Swans were interested in Michael Obafemi last season, I can see us signing him if we get their coach...
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: twang on June 30, 2021, 11:34:55 AM
Turkish rumours (so not the most reliable) about Besiktas closing in on Mitro on loan and that Galatasaray want Tete on loan.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Porthogs FC on June 30, 2021, 11:43:04 AM
Turkish rumours (so not the most reliable) about Besiktas closing in on Mitro on loan and that Galatasaray want Tete on loan.

Just don’t see us loaning out Mitro. It’s either sell or stay. Tete is premier league quality, perhaps this would happen if he’s on big wages. We’d likely want to keep him for when we’re back next year lol.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on June 30, 2021, 12:18:54 PM
Turkish rumours (so not the most reliable) about Besiktas closing in on Mitro on loan and that Galatasaray want Tete on loan.

Would be very annoyed were either deal to go through.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HillingdonFFC on June 30, 2021, 12:58:42 PM
Turkish rumours (so not the most reliable) about Besiktas closing in on Mitro on loan and that Galatasaray want Tete on loan.


Mitro not in the training pics, picture of him doing the rounds on Twitter, he just happens to be on holiday, guess where?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: St. Andrews White on June 30, 2021, 01:00:46 PM
Turkish rumours (so not the most reliable) about Besiktas closing in on Mitro on loan and that Galatasaray want Tete on loan.


Mitro not in the training pics, picture of him doing the rounds on Twitter, he just happens to be on holiday, guess where?
His Instagram story has him in Fulham shorts, so I'm not worried for now

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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 01, 2021, 01:01:25 AM
With Marco Silva potentially incoming...guess that means Richarlison In is guaranteed right?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: ianthailand on July 01, 2021, 03:24:46 AM
With Marco Silva potentially incoming...guess that means Richarlison In is guaranteed right?
Plenty of injury time then. Looks like last train home for you.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Nero on July 01, 2021, 08:03:46 PM
OK we have a new manager for 1.5 hours it's  the 1st July why haven't we signed anyone loads of free transfer to be had,
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 01, 2021, 08:05:04 PM
We are going to be linked with every portuguese speaking player in Europe this window.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Black, White and Fred on July 01, 2021, 08:22:39 PM
I have it on good authority that we are in for Rodrigues, Lopes, Nunes, Mendes, Fernandes, Gonçalves, Arantes, Esteves and Álvares  064.gif
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 03, 2021, 09:51:28 AM
First transfer done for Parker - Marcondes. Released by Brentford. The one who said before the play-off final that we feared them, then got rag-dolled by Mitrovic in the incident that distracted their keeper for Bryan's sneaky freekick. So another reason to dislike Bournemouth next season.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 03, 2021, 03:20:17 PM
Joachim Andersen wanted by Spuds - Please not there Joachim!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 03, 2021, 03:20:47 PM
First transfer done for Parker - Marcondes. Released by Brentford. The one who said before the play-off final that we feared them, then got rag-dolled by Mitrovic in the incident that distracted their keeper for Bryan's sneaky freekick. So another reason to dislike Bournemouth next season.
Very good signing that is. On a free too.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 03, 2021, 03:53:47 PM
First transfer done for Parker - Marcondes. Released by Brentford. The one who said before the play-off final that we feared them, then got rag-dolled by Mitrovic in the incident that distracted their keeper for Bryan's sneaky freekick. So another reason to dislike Bournemouth next season.
Very good signing that is. On a free too.
Wonder how many weeks until Silva gets his first signing?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 03, 2021, 04:24:14 PM
Hopefully not to long, I’m sure he will have been given some reassurances before he took the job!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 03, 2021, 07:11:08 PM
First transfer done for Parker - Marcondes. Released by Brentford. The one who said before the play-off final that we feared them, then got rag-dolled by Mitrovic in the incident that distracted their keeper for Bryan's sneaky freekick. So another reason to dislike Bournemouth next season.
Very good signing that is. On a free too.
Wonder how many weeks until Silva gets his first signing?

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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: paulbrookersmazydribbles on July 04, 2021, 01:47:59 PM
Silva is apparently interested in Bright Osayi-Samuel, ex-QPR, at Fenrbahce. Not sure Fener will sell to one of the men they were trying to recruit for their managerial job.

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/fulham-fancy-osayi-samuel/
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 04, 2021, 09:06:56 PM
Several Premier League clubs allegedly interested in signing Robinson along with Manchester City according to the Athletic.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FulhamStu on July 04, 2021, 09:12:17 PM
If we are going to have to sell Robinson Mitro Frank and even Tosin, we should make sure we get top money, those 4 could see between £50 - £75 million come in and a huge reduction in the wage bill, this would allow Silver to build a seriously good team.  We need to offload many and bring through the best youngsters.  This would represent a really fresh start.

Interesting times.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 04, 2021, 09:35:12 PM
If we are going to have to sell Robinson Mitro Frank and even Tosin, we should make sure we get top money, those 4 could see between £50 - £75 million come in and a huge reduction in the wage bill, this would allow Silver to build a seriously good team.  We need to offload many and bring through the best youngsters.  This would represent a really fresh start.

Interesting times.

We don´t have to sell anyone that we don´t need to. Those 4 are key parts  so why sell. Seri, MLM yes but with the extra matches we need good back ups.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 04, 2021, 09:55:26 PM
If we are going to have to sell Robinson Mitro Frank and even Tosin, we should make sure we get top money, those 4 could see between £50 - £75 million come in and a huge reduction in the wage bill, this would allow Silver to build a seriously good team.  We need to offload many and bring through the best youngsters.  This would represent a really fresh start.

Interesting times.

I can see Frank going because he won't want to play in the Championship, but not the others you've named. If we're looking to raise fundS we should start with Fabri, MLM, Mawson, Kongolo, Knockaert and Seri all of whom I suspect are on chunky wages.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Logicalman on July 04, 2021, 09:58:24 PM
If we are going to have to sell Robinson Mitro Frank and even Tosin, we should make sure we get top money, those 4 could see between £50 - £75 million come in and a huge reduction in the wage bill, this would allow Silver to build a seriously good team.  We need to offload many and bring through the best youngsters.  This would represent a really fresh start.

Interesting times.

I can agree with most of that, but there's the rub as well ... the moment we bring on a good academy player one of the bigger teams come knocking, heads are turned and off they go, then rob us of serious compensation. I hate being a feeder team to others that really don't need, and seem rarely to use, those players that could do us some good, but that's the name of the game these days - sometimes I wish that SL had come to fruition and FIFA,UEFA and the English FA banned all players that joined it for life, then their plague would not be upon us.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FulhamStu on July 05, 2021, 08:25:59 AM
If we are going to have to sell Robinson Mitro Frank and even Tosin, we should make sure we get top money, those 4 could see between £50 - £75 million come in and a huge reduction in the wage bill, this would allow Silver to build a seriously good team.  We need to offload many and bring through the best youngsters.  This would represent a really fresh start.

Interesting times.

We don´t have to sell anyone that we don´t need to. Those 4 are key parts  so why sell. Seri, MLM yes but with the extra matches we need good back ups.

If these players or any others can’t be talked into giving Fulham another season in the championship and if they know the likes of Man City or Arsenal want them then I am afraid I disagree with you and we do need to sell.  Of course I want to keep them all, my point is that if they want to go, we should ensure we get big money to allow Silver to re-build.  I also agree with those listed that we should sell like MLM, Seri, Fabri.  If we can keep all our defenders we should also sell or let go Ream, Christie, Odoi, and maybe loan Sess and/or Fossey again.   Tosin, Kongolo, Mawson and Hector if fit are amazing central defenders for the championship.  Tete, Robinson, Bryan are the same as full backs.  Rodak is a top championship keeper so the defence is super strong but the secrete will be ,keeping them and getting them fit.  Mawson is in full training not sure about Kongolo.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on July 05, 2021, 08:46:48 AM
With Ream, Hector, Tosin & one of Mawson & Kongolo being fit (one can hope) this could be a season where we don't actually need to sign a CB???
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 05, 2021, 09:45:07 AM
With Ream, Hector, Tosin & one of Mawson & Kongolo being fit (one can hope) this could be a season where we don't actually need to sign a CB???

Ream may still be good enough for a lower half Championship squad but definitely not as a regular starter in a team that's (hopefully) aiming for automatic promotion.

Hector's problems must be psychological. I can't explain his sudden drop in form and 'deer in headlight' body language any other way. If he can regain his confidence and perform at his best he will be a regular starter. If not he's an accident waiting to happen.

We can't rely on Kongolo and Mawson for obvious reasons.


In my opinion we need at least one CB (and obviously get rid of some of the dead wood). Especially if we're going to play a more attacking style of football which will leave our defence FAR more exposed than Parkerball.

If Tosin is leaving we will probably need two CBs.

Of course we will need to strengthen several other positions too so I can't see us signing two CBs this window. Lets hope we can somehow keep Tosin. I know he's still a bit rough but he has lots of potential and is BY FAR our best CB.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 05, 2021, 11:46:07 AM
Silva is apparently interested in Bright Osayi-Samuel, ex-QPR, at Fenrbahce. Not sure Fener will sell to one of the men they were trying to recruit for their managerial job.

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/fulham-fancy-osayi-samuel/

18 games for Fenerbace  - 1 goal 1 assist, hmm. We'll see, think we were linked a while back too tbf
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 05, 2021, 11:49:13 AM
If we are going to have to sell Robinson Mitro Frank and even Tosin, we should make sure we get top money, those 4 could see between £50 - £75 million come in and a huge reduction in the wage bill, this would allow Silver to build a seriously good team.  We need to offload many and bring through the best youngsters.  This would represent a really fresh start.

Interesting times.

I can see Frank going because he won't want to play in the Championship, but not the others you've named. If we're looking to raise fundS we should start with Fabri, MLM, Mawson, Kongolo, Knockaert and Seri all of whom I suspect are on chunky wages.

I agree with all of those bar Kongolo, not willing to give up just yet.  For what we'd get for him I'd rather we persevere in case he's able to shake the injuries. If he can he's a top-quality starter in my opinion. One of those I don't mind the gamble given the relative cost. But the rest it's long due time they saw the door. I'd consider Cav out aswell providing we can find a replacement.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on July 05, 2021, 11:55:57 AM
If we are going to have to sell Robinson Mitro Frank and even Tosin, we should make sure we get top money, those 4 could see between £50 - £75 million come in and a huge reduction in the wage bill, this would allow Silver to build a seriously good team.  We need to offload many and bring through the best youngsters.  This would represent a really fresh start.

Interesting times.

I can see Frank going because he won't want to play in the Championship, but not the others you've named. If we're looking to raise fundS we should start with Fabri, MLM, Mawson, Kongolo, Knockaert and Seri all of whom I suspect are on chunky wages.



I agree with all of those bar Kongolo, not willing to give up just yet.  For what we'd get for him I'd rather we persevere in case he's able to shake the injuries. If he can he's a top-quality starter in my opinion. One of those I don't mind the gamble given the relative cost. But the rest it's long due time they saw the door. I'd consider Cav out aswell providing we can find a replacement.

Agreed on Kongolo - there's a big player there & might be the making of Tosin. The one player I'd like us to add is Ola Aina. I know it's only transfermkt figures but at €5mill he'd be a bargain able to cover the back particularly if Robinson goes for €20mill+
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jim© on July 05, 2021, 12:02:31 PM

Agreed on Kongolo - there's a big player there & might be the making of Tosin. The one player I'd like us to add is Ola Aina. I know it's only transfermkt figures but at €5mill he'd be a bargain able to cover the back particularly if Robinson goes for €20mill+

With you on both of those- Kongolo must surely have his injuries behind him? Aina is a utility upgrade on Dennis too.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on July 05, 2021, 12:50:47 PM
If we are going to have to sell Robinson Mitro Frank and even Tosin, we should make sure we get top money, those 4 could see between £50 - £75 million come in and a huge reduction in the wage bill, this would allow Silver to build a seriously good team.  We need to offload many and bring through the best youngsters.  This would represent a really fresh start.

Interesting times.

I can see Frank going because he won't want to play in the Championship, but not the others you've named. If we're looking to raise fundS we should start with Fabri, MLM, Mawson, Kongolo, Knockaert and Seri all of whom I suspect are on chunky wages.



I agree with all of those bar Kongolo, not willing to give up just yet.  For what we'd get for him I'd rather we persevere in case he's able to shake the injuries. If he can he's a top-quality starter in my opinion. One of those I don't mind the gamble given the relative cost. But the rest it's long due time they saw the door. I'd consider Cav out aswell providing we can find a replacement.

Agreed on Kongolo - there's a big player there & might be the making of Tosin. The one player I'd like us to add is Ola Aina. I know it's only transfermkt figures but at €5mill he'd be a bargain able to cover the back particularly if Robinson goes for €20mill+

Agree on Kongolo as well. He's looked good in the - limited number of - games he's played. Besides, we're unlikely to get much for him given his injury record.

I'm not sure Aina would be that cheap, the price we'd agreed was £11 million. If he's affordable I'd go for it.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on July 05, 2021, 12:55:31 PM
If we are going to have to sell Robinson Mitro Frank and even Tosin, we should make sure we get top money, those 4 could see between £50 - £75 million come in and a huge reduction in the wage bill, this would allow Silver to build a seriously good team.  We need to offload many and bring through the best youngsters.  This would represent a really fresh start.

Interesting times.

I can see Frank going because he won't want to play in the Championship, but not the others you've named. If we're looking to raise fundS we should start with Fabri, MLM, Mawson, Kongolo, Knockaert and Seri all of whom I suspect are on chunky wages.



I agree with all of those bar Kongolo, not willing to give up just yet.  For what we'd get for him I'd rather we persevere in case he's able to shake the injuries. If he can he's a top-quality starter in my opinion. One of those I don't mind the gamble given the relative cost. But the rest it's long due time they saw the door. I'd consider Cav out aswell providing we can find a replacement.

Agreed on Kongolo - there's a big player there & might be the making of Tosin. The one player I'd like us to add is Ola Aina. I know it's only transfermkt figures but at €5mill he'd be a bargain able to cover the back particularly if Robinson goes for €20mill+

Agree on Kongolo as well. He's looked good in the - limited number of - games he's played. Besides, we're unlikely to get much for him given his injury record.

I'm not sure Aina would be that cheap, the price we'd agreed was £11 million. If he's affordable I'd go for it.

Even at that I'd bite. We need a bit of stability & if Robinson does go for double that it's money well spent. Rodak, Tete, Kongolo Aina Bryan Reed has the back end of the pitch sorted out.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimmyConway on July 05, 2021, 01:19:33 PM
I would offer Robinson a new contract personally even after relegation. Has the potential to be an elite left back or left wing back. Needs a couple of tweaks with delivery and awareness but a good coach can provide that. He will be a major asset in championship with his build and pace and will nullify any threat from the right. I like Joe but the bigger picture is keeping Robinson and he'll be better in premier league next time whereas Joe will always struggle at the top table.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RoyTund on July 05, 2021, 01:39:22 PM
Bryan was one of our better players in 18/19 then got dumped by parkerball. Is a better passer and crosser than Robinson, at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: paulbrookersmazydribbles on July 05, 2021, 01:57:30 PM
Now Wolves are in for Robinson at £10m allegedly

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/wolves-lining-up-10m-robinson-swoop/
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Nero on July 05, 2021, 02:19:05 PM
Now Wolves are in for Robinson at £10m allegedly

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/wolves-lining-up-10m-robinson-swoop/

Hes not Portuguese or have Mendes as an agent plus haven't they just signed a kid from Barcelona
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on July 05, 2021, 03:10:56 PM
Now Wolves are in for Robinson at £10m allegedly

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/wolves-lining-up-10m-robinson-swoop/

Hes not Portuguese or have Mendes as an agent plus haven't they just signed a kid from Barcelona

That was a winger (who is Portuguese). They're about to sign a left-back from France though.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sarnian on July 05, 2021, 03:14:51 PM
A lot of these websites are desperate for stories as there is little going on transfer wise at present.  They have been trying to link Tosin with many clubs before his alleged buyout clause runs out on 7 July.  They are now trying to sell Robinson and have linked a loan move for Mitro with Turkish teams.  Both have contracts so Fulham would only sell for the right price if it suits the club.

Personally I think it will be a couple of weeks for Silva to evaluate the squad before we see any movement.

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 05, 2021, 04:48:02 PM
Now Wolves are in for Robinson at £10m allegedly

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/wolves-lining-up-10m-robinson-swoop/

hes got plenty of promise but not irreplaceable and we already have Bryan in the wings whos a capable enough starter at this level. 10 million wouldnt be a bad price given its a 10x on what we paid for him.
Given we already have a starter at that price I'd consider it. Spend that on Aina as mentioned above or try and find another bargain ala robinson and spend the rest of that money eslewhere.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 05, 2021, 06:06:32 PM
Keep everyone except Seri & MLM. With more matches we need a good 2nd string. Add a top CB to replace Andersen  a real left winger to replace Lookman & at least two strikers should Mitro go right at the end of the window.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 05, 2021, 06:10:48 PM
Now Wolves are in for Robinson at £10m allegedly

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/wolves-lining-up-10m-robinson-swoop/
I would say give us £15m and it's a deal
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 05, 2021, 06:23:35 PM
To all the people saying they’d sell Robinson for £10m - what are we meant to do if we go straight back up? We’d be selling a PL ready asset and then having to get promoted and start from scratch, which kind of defeats the issue of a lack of continuity that we’re trying to overcome. I appreciate his crossing is quite wayward but proper coaching can sort that issue, he’s got the raw physical assets to be at worst a competent PL left back, and we’d have to spend at least the same amount we sell him for to replace him should we go up again
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RaySmith on July 05, 2021, 06:30:16 PM
To all the people saying they’d sell Robinson for £10m - what are we meant to do if we go straight back up? We’d be selling a PL ready asset and then having to get promoted and start from scratch, which kind of defeats the issue of a lack of continuity that we’re trying to overcome. I appreciate his crossing is quite wayward but proper coaching can sort that issue, he’s got the raw physical assets to be at worst a competent PL left back, and we’d have to spend at least the same amount we sell him for to replace him should we go up again

Agree.
He has a lot of raw potential. His pace will be a great asset in the champ.
We should keep Bryan too.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 05, 2021, 06:35:06 PM
To all the people saying they’d sell Robinson for £10m - what are we meant to do if we go straight back up? We’d be selling a PL ready asset and then having to get promoted and start from scratch, which kind of defeats the issue of a lack of continuity that we’re trying to overcome. I appreciate his crossing is quite wayward but proper coaching can sort that issue, he’s got the raw physical assets to be at worst a competent PL left back, and we’d have to spend at least the same amount we sell him for to replace him should we go up again

28 premier league games, 0 goals and 0 assists from an attacking full back.
I think we could potentially be OK to replace that contribution. Plenty of times last year that Aina actually looked the better of the 2 in that position. Not that I dont rate Robinson but given Bryan is a decent enough LB for now if someone were to offer us north of 10million who knows what other young and affordable options might be about there next year just like Robinson was last time out.

Aina currently rated at half that fee (5mil) on transfermarkt (obvs just an estimate, may well cost a bit more) Id be happy with that if hed be willing to step down to the champ with us. If we had a agreed to 11mil if we stayed up...perhaps something like 7 mil wouldnt be out of the question if they wanted rid. would leave us with 4+ mil to help towards other positions and replace Robinson with a player I rated over him last year.

p.s I appreciate that being a LB isnt just about assists or goals but as an attacking wingback it is supposed to be part of his game. Also would add I dont know that he's that much better defender than Aina either, just quicker
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 05, 2021, 07:18:01 PM
To all the people saying they’d sell Robinson for £10m - what are we meant to do if we go straight back up? We’d be selling a PL ready asset and then having to get promoted and start from scratch, which kind of defeats the issue of a lack of continuity that we’re trying to overcome. I appreciate his crossing is quite wayward but proper coaching can sort that issue, he’s got the raw physical assets to be at worst a competent PL left back, and we’d have to spend at least the same amount we sell him for to replace him should we go up again

28 premier league games, 0 goals and 0 assists from an attacking full back.
I think we could potentially be OK to replace that contribution. Plenty of times last year that Aina actually looked the better of the 2 in that position. Not that I dont rate Robinson but given Bryan is a decent enough LB for now if someone were to offer us north of 10million who knows what other young and affordable options might be about there next year just like Robinson was last time out.

Aina currently rated at half that fee (5mil) on transfermarkt (obvs just an estimate, may well cost a bit more) Id be happy with that if hed be willing to step down to the champ with us. If we had a agreed to 11mil if we stayed up...perhaps something like 7 mil wouldnt be out of the question if they wanted rid. would leave us with 4+ mil to help towards other positions and replace Robinson with a player I rated over him last year.

p.s I appreciate that being a LB isnt just about assists or goals but as an attacking wingback it is supposed to be part of his game. Also would add I dont know that he's that much better defender than Aina either, just quicker

Transfermarkt fees are usually a load of shite, so I wouldn’t pay them much notice to be fair. There’s no way we sign Aina for less than £10m unless Torino are broke because why would they suddenly agree to sell him for less than the fee we already agreed on, and he probably wouldn’t want to drop down a level anyway. Fairly certain he’s on bigger wages than Robinson as well so by the time you’ve sold Robinson for £10m and replaced him with Aina for the same price assuming we could even get him, we’re probably worse off from how much he’s earning over Robinson because I bet he’d want a hefty signing bonus as well to drop down a level. I wouldn’t really look at a g/a metric for anyone playing in our team last season, pretty much everyone was told to attack at the pace of a retirement home, and he was done out of a few assists by some pretty rank finishing
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Carborundum on July 05, 2021, 08:19:09 PM
Having marvelled at Antonee Robinson’s performance at the Cottage in a Wigan shirt, banged on for the remainder of that season that we should sign him, missed out on live football because of Covid-19 and now shelled out for a season ticket, I might feel just a little cheesed off if we sell him before the season starts.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 05, 2021, 08:23:59 PM
Robinson had promise, but failed to show much attacking class.

But this was under a manager who didn’t know how to setup a fluid attacking style.

Silva could get more out of him, but we also have Bryan and money is tight in this league.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on July 05, 2021, 09:45:32 PM
Defensively Robinson was and is an upgrade on Bryan. Offensively I agree with other posters. Bryan offers a bit more.  Robinson will be a huge asset in the Championship. I hope we are able to retain the services of him and Tosin because a team with a good defence will always be in with a chance of success.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 05, 2021, 11:00:55 PM
To all the people saying they’d sell Robinson for £10m - what are we meant to do if we go straight back up? We’d be selling a PL ready asset and then having to get promoted and start from scratch, which kind of defeats the issue of a lack of continuity that we’re trying to overcome. I appreciate his crossing is quite wayward but proper coaching can sort that issue, he’s got the raw physical assets to be at worst a competent PL left back, and we’d have to spend at least the same amount we sell him for to replace him should we go up again

28 premier league games, 0 goals and 0 assists from an attacking full back.
I think we could potentially be OK to replace that contribution. Plenty of times last year that Aina actually looked the better of the 2 in that position. Not that I dont rate Robinson but given Bryan is a decent enough LB for now if someone were to offer us north of 10million who knows what other young and affordable options might be about there next year just like Robinson was last time out.

Aina currently rated at half that fee (5mil) on transfermarkt (obvs just an estimate, may well cost a bit more) Id be happy with that if hed be willing to step down to the champ with us. If we had a agreed to 11mil if we stayed up...perhaps something like 7 mil wouldnt be out of the question if they wanted rid. would leave us with 4+ mil to help towards other positions and replace Robinson with a player I rated over him last year.

p.s I appreciate that being a LB isnt just about assists or goals but as an attacking wingback it is supposed to be part of his game. Also would add I dont know that he's that much better defender than Aina either, just quicker

Transfermarkt fees are usually a load of shite, so I wouldn’t pay them much notice to be fair. There’s no way we sign Aina for less than £10m unless Torino are broke because why would they suddenly agree to sell him for less than the fee we already agreed on, and he probably wouldn’t want to drop down a level anyway. Fairly certain he’s on bigger wages than Robinson as well so by the time you’ve sold Robinson for £10m and replaced him with Aina for the same price assuming we could even get him, we’re probably worse off from how much he’s earning over Robinson because I bet he’d want a hefty signing bonus as well to drop down a level. I wouldn’t really look at a g/a metric for anyone playing in our team last season, pretty much everyone was told to attack at the pace of a retirement home, and he was done out of a few assists by some pretty rank finishing

Robinson had plenty opportunities to cross last year and failed miserably...his ratios in that department also weren't that special at Wigan. Out done by Bryan consistently in terms of that metric.
That said I agree that hes better than Bryan defensively...mostly because of his pace.
Its not that I dont rate him at all but I would sooner have Aina personally from what I've seen. Can play left and right back well.

End of the day if wolves and man city are genuinely gonna come in for him (would be very surprised with the latter) we dont stand a chance of keeping him so realistically north if 10million on a 1m5mil investment is pretty decent and more than enough to reinvest in the next promising LB if we do our job well enough

As for the fee for Aina... 11m was on the premise that we stayed up which would assume  hed played well enough to play a part in keeping us up and making us that premier league money....given that didnt happen and they were willing to let him go on loan in the first place, he may be surplus to requirements and with one less year on his contract. Considering they bought him for 9mil and hes failed to nail a place down there it's possible they may be willing to part with just under what they paid if no one else will pay that amount. given theyd probably just loan him out again if not...even at 9million I wouldnt be mad at a potential upgrade to our Robinson in terms if actual output last year +1 or 2 million on top. There have certainly been worse trades imo

Happy to keep Robinson but replaceable imo. Perhaps hell mature and learn how to cross/ be better with a better team around him at a top club. A great athlete but if alot to learn in the final quarter
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: simplyfulham on July 05, 2021, 11:56:33 PM
Defensively Robinson was and is an upgrade on Bryan. Offensively I agree with other posters. Bryan offers a bit more.  Robinson will be a huge asset in the Championship. I hope we are able to retain the services of him and Tosin because a team with a good defence will always be in with a chance of success.

He’s not really. Robinson is quicker than Bryan which allows him to recover his position more quickly.
He was caught out of position on many, many occasions last year.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 06, 2021, 02:00:10 AM
To all the people saying they’d sell Robinson for £10m - what are we meant to do if we go straight back up? We’d be selling a PL ready asset and then having to get promoted and start from scratch, which kind of defeats the issue of a lack of continuity that we’re trying to overcome. I appreciate his crossing is quite wayward but proper coaching can sort that issue, he’s got the raw physical assets to be at worst a competent PL left back, and we’d have to spend at least the same amount we sell him for to replace him should we go up again

28 premier league games, 0 goals and 0 assists from an attacking full back.
I think we could potentially be OK to replace that contribution. Plenty of times last year that Aina actually looked the better of the 2 in that position. Not that I dont rate Robinson but given Bryan is a decent enough LB for now if someone were to offer us north of 10million who knows what other young and affordable options might be about there next year just like Robinson was last time out.

Aina currently rated at half that fee (5mil) on transfermarkt (obvs just an estimate, may well cost a bit more) Id be happy with that if hed be willing to step down to the champ with us. If we had a agreed to 11mil if we stayed up...perhaps something like 7 mil wouldnt be out of the question if they wanted rid. would leave us with 4+ mil to help towards other positions and replace Robinson with a player I rated over him last year.

p.s I appreciate that being a LB isnt just about assists or goals but as an attacking wingback it is supposed to be part of his game. Also would add I dont know that he's that much better defender than Aina either, just quicker

Transfermarkt fees are usually a load of shite, so I wouldn’t pay them much notice to be fair. There’s no way we sign Aina for less than £10m unless Torino are broke because why would they suddenly agree to sell him for less than the fee we already agreed on, and he probably wouldn’t want to drop down a level anyway. Fairly certain he’s on bigger wages than Robinson as well so by the time you’ve sold Robinson for £10m and replaced him with Aina for the same price assuming we could even get him, we’re probably worse off from how much he’s earning over Robinson because I bet he’d want a hefty signing bonus as well to drop down a level. I wouldn’t really look at a g/a metric for anyone playing in our team last season, pretty much everyone was told to attack at the pace of a retirement home, and he was done out of a few assists by some pretty rank finishing

Robinson had plenty opportunities to cross last year and failed miserably...his ratios in that department also weren't that special at Wigan. Out done by Bryan consistently in terms of that metric.
That said I agree that hes better than Bryan defensively...mostly because of his pace.
Its not that I dont rate him at all but I would sooner have Aina personally from what I've seen. Can play left and right back well.

End of the day if wolves and man city are genuinely gonna come in for him (would be very surprised with the latter) we dont stand a chance of keeping him so realistically north if 10million on a 1m5mil investment is pretty decent and more than enough to reinvest in the next promising LB if we do our job well enough

As for the fee for Aina... 11m was on the premise that we stayed up which would assume  hed played well enough to play a part in keeping us up and making us that premier league money....given that didnt happen and they were willing to let him go on loan in the first place, he may be surplus to requirements and with one less year on his contract. Considering they bought him for 9mil and hes failed to nail a place down there it's possible they may be willing to part with just under what they paid if no one else will pay that amount. given theyd probably just loan him out again if not...even at 9million I wouldnt be mad at a potential upgrade to our Robinson in terms if actual output last year +1 or 2 million on top. There have certainly been worse trades imo

Happy to keep Robinson but replaceable imo. Perhaps hell mature and learn how to cross/ be better with a better team around him at a top club. A great athlete but if alot to learn in the final quarter

There seems to be a massive push by fans to buy some forwards for a complete rebuild up front for next season, in which case selling Tosin, Robinson, and Anguissa to raise money is absolutely essential. Personally, I think any rebuild will take a year to take effect and after two years we have to cut the wage bill by £750k per week. So a rebuilding plan is really a plan to get promoted in 2022-23 and if we don't get promoted sell most of the team to the premier league then rebuild again with youth for a four-year promotion push.  I don't think this is wise.

A better plan than a rebuild is to keep the existing squad (which is strong in defense and midfield) and bring in five loans with compulsory buy clauses if promoted. If promoted such a team only has to rebuild upfront. 
First XI: Rodak; Tete, Tosin, Mawson/Kongolo, Robinson; Reed, Anguissa, Loan AM; Loan RW, Mitro and Loan LW
Second XI: Fabri; Christie, Hector, Ream, Bryan; Loan DM, Seri/Cairney, Onamah; Reid, Loan CF, and Cav/Kebano

From a financial perspective, it makes sense to have some permanent players plus a loan army. From a footballing sense, a loan army reduces the combinational strength of players so ideally, it would be better if we don't have loans all over the field (e.g. permanents in positions 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 10 & 11 and loans at 3, 4, 8 & 9). It would be foolish to sell Robinson, because we need to ensure this yo-yo team keeps most of its defensive combinations together (with permanents in positions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 with some loans playing at 7, 9, 10, 11).
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 06, 2021, 03:05:08 AM
Defensively Robinson was and is an upgrade on Bryan. Offensively I agree with other posters. Bryan offers a bit more.  Robinson will be a huge asset in the Championship. I hope we are able to retain the services of him and Tosin because a team with a good defence will always be in with a chance of success.

He’s not really. Robinson is quicker than Bryan which allows him to recover his position more quickly.
He was caught out of position on many, many occasions last year.

Having the pace to fix your mistakes is also a way to be good defensively though, it isn't like it is cheating. And we saw how it was against premier league opposition, the wingers aren't going to get any quicker or trickier.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 06, 2021, 04:48:32 AM
Defensively Robinson was and is an upgrade on Bryan. Offensively I agree with other posters. Bryan offers a bit more.  Robinson will be a huge asset in the Championship. I hope we are able to retain the services of him and Tosin because a team with a good defence will always be in with a chance of success.

He’s not really. Robinson is quicker than Bryan which allows him to recover his position more quickly.
He was caught out of position on many, many occasions last year.

Having the pace to fix your mistakes is also a way to be good defensively though, it isn't like it is cheating. And we saw how it was against premier league opposition, the wingers aren't going to get any quicker or trickier.

The skill of being able to get back into a defensive position allows Robinson and the team to attack more. Robinson's pace is really important for any team pushing high up the pitch due to the huge risk of a counter-attack. Tete, Reed, Anguissa, or Cairney are more likely to get forward with fast players like "Odoi, Kongolo, and Robinson" behind him than with slower players like "Tosin, Ream, and MLM" behind them.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on July 06, 2021, 08:15:38 AM
Defensively Robinson was and is an upgrade on Bryan. Offensively I agree with other posters. Bryan offers a bit more.  Robinson will be a huge asset in the Championship. I hope we are able to retain the services of him and Tosin because a team with a good defence will always be in with a chance of success.

He’s not really. Robinson is quicker than Bryan which allows him to recover his position more quickly.
He was caught out of position on many, many occasions last year.

And Bryan was regularly caught out of position when we were last in the Championship. The pairing of Bryan and Ream on the left side that season was problematic defensively. Robinson, if we are able to retain him, will be one of the best left backs in the Championship next season. Tosin and Robinson on the left side is a massive upgrade on what we had last time.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 06, 2021, 08:21:17 AM
Defensively Robinson was and is an upgrade on Bryan. Offensively I agree with other posters. Bryan offers a bit more.  Robinson will be a huge asset in the Championship. I hope we are able to retain the services of him and Tosin because a team with a good defence will always be in with a chance of success.

He’s not really. Robinson is quicker than Bryan which allows him to recover his position more quickly.
He was caught out of position on many, many occasions last year.

And Bryan was regularly caught out of position when we were last in the Championship. The pairing of Bryan and Ream on the left side that season was problematic defensively. Robinson, if we are able to retain him, will be one of the best left backs in the Championship next season. Tosin and Robinson on the left side is a massive upgrade on what we had last time.

If Tosin is with us at the start of the season, I’m fairly sure he will play on the right. Kongolo and Ream left footed, Mawson also prefers playing LCB
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 06, 2021, 08:44:24 AM
Defensively Robinson was and is an upgrade on Bryan. Offensively I agree with other posters. Bryan offers a bit more.  Robinson will be a huge asset in the Championship. I hope we are able to retain the services of him and Tosin because a team with a good defence will always be in with a chance of success.

He’s not really. Robinson is quicker than Bryan which allows him to recover his position more quickly.
He was caught out of position on many, many occasions last year.

And Bryan was regularly caught out of position when we were last in the Championship. The pairing of Bryan and Ream on the left side that season was problematic defensively. Robinson, if we are able to retain him, will be one of the best left backs in the Championship next season. Tosin and Robinson on the left side is a massive upgrade on what we had last time.

If Tosin is with us at the start of the season, I’m fairly sure he will play on the right. Kongolo and Ream left footed, Mawson also prefers playing LCB

But Hector plays on the right and he isn't elderly or crippled like those three
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 06, 2021, 08:49:28 AM
Defensively Robinson was and is an upgrade on Bryan. Offensively I agree with other posters. Bryan offers a bit more.  Robinson will be a huge asset in the Championship. I hope we are able to retain the services of him and Tosin because a team with a good defence will always be in with a chance of success.

He’s not really. Robinson is quicker than Bryan which allows him to recover his position more quickly.
He was caught out of position on many, many occasions last year.

And Bryan was regularly caught out of position when we were last in the Championship. The pairing of Bryan and Ream on the left side that season was problematic defensively. Robinson, if we are able to retain him, will be one of the best left backs in the Championship next season. Tosin and Robinson on the left side is a massive upgrade on what we had last time.

If Tosin is with us at the start of the season, I’m fairly sure he will play on the right. Kongolo and Ream left footed, Mawson also prefers playing LCB

But Hector plays on the right and he isn't elderly or crippled like those three

It will be down to Silva but if Kongolo is fit I imagine him and Tosin start
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: simplyfulham on July 06, 2021, 10:32:34 AM
Defensively Robinson was and is an upgrade on Bryan. Offensively I agree with other posters. Bryan offers a bit more.  Robinson will be a huge asset in the Championship. I hope we are able to retain the services of him and Tosin because a team with a good defence will always be in with a chance of success.

He’s not really. Robinson is quicker than Bryan which allows him to recover his position more quickly.
He was caught out of position on many, many occasions last year.

Having the pace to fix your mistakes is also a way to be good defensively though, it isn't like it is cheating. And we saw how it was against premier league opposition, the wingers aren't going to get any quicker or trickier.

The skill of being able to get back into a defensive position allows Robinson and the team to attack more. Robinson's pace is really important for any team pushing high up the pitch due to the huge risk of a counter-attack. Tete, Reed, Anguissa, or Cairney are more likely to get forward with fast players like "Odoi, Kongolo, and Robinson" behind him than with slower players like "Tosin, Ream, and MLM" behind them.

Tosin is one of the quickest centre backs in the league.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mullers OG on July 06, 2021, 10:40:20 AM
I hope to see Tosin at the club this season although I suspect he won't be.  If, as rumoured, there is a £10m buyout clause then many premier division clubs will be considering making a move.  Given that MC apparently have a 20 pc sell on clause the profit on his sale will be limited.  If anyone comes in then a young ambitious player will want to play at the top level.  It will be a shame for the FFC supporters but part of the fallout of relegation.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 06, 2021, 10:41:33 AM
I hope to see Tosin at the club this season although I suspect he won't be.  If, as rumoured, there is a £10m buyout clause then many premier division clubs will be considering making a move.  Given that MC apparently have a 20 pc sell on clause the profit on his sale will be limited.  If anyone comes in then a young ambitious player will want to play at the top level.  It will be a shame for the FFC supporters but part of the fallout of relegation.

The release clause expires this week. Either tomorrow or Saturday, I’m not sure which.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Cravenette on July 06, 2021, 10:43:00 AM
I think we should also be taking into consideration that Marco Silva may actually IMPROVE these players and not regress them as has happened lately.  If Marco recognises Robinson's crossing is not up to scratch it is something that can be worked on surely?  You cannot coach pace but most other things, including defensive positioning, you can.

I am looking forward to seeing what he does with the current squad.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 06, 2021, 10:45:23 AM
We need to hold on to Tete, Tosin, Bryan and Robinson.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: simplyfulham on July 06, 2021, 10:46:18 AM
Defensively Robinson was and is an upgrade on Bryan. Offensively I agree with other posters. Bryan offers a bit more.  Robinson will be a huge asset in the Championship. I hope we are able to retain the services of him and Tosin because a team with a good defence will always be in with a chance of success.

He’s not really. Robinson is quicker than Bryan which allows him to recover his position more quickly.
He was caught out of position on many, many occasions last year.

And Bryan was regularly caught out of position when we were last in the Championship. The pairing of Bryan and Ream on the left side that season was problematic defensively. Robinson, if we are able to retain him, will be one of the best left backs in the Championship next season. Tosin and Robinson on the left side is a massive upgrade on what we had last time.

Yes Bryan was caught out in our championship season, but he’s still better defensively than Robinson. Both things can be true and are true.

Robinson is a decent player and his advantages are his pace and his ball carrying/dribbling. I’d like to keep him. It’ll be good to have the two best left backs in the league on one team.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on July 06, 2021, 11:02:33 AM
We need to hold on to Tete, Tosin, Bryan and Robinson.

Yes and also Reed and Mitrovic.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on July 06, 2021, 11:03:29 AM
I hope to see Tosin at the club this season although I suspect he won't be.  If, as rumoured, there is a £10m buyout clause then many premier division clubs will be considering making a move.  Given that MC apparently have a 20 pc sell on clause the profit on his sale will be limited.  If anyone comes in then a young ambitious player will want to play at the top level.  It will be a shame for the FFC supporters but part of the fallout of relegation.

The release clause expires this week. Either tomorrow or Saturday, I’m not sure which.

It's tomorrow if the rumours are true, leaves no time for anyone to put in a bid and agree a contract, so we should be okay. Hopefully we'll ask for double the cost for any bids in the future.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: 70sPimlico on July 06, 2021, 11:10:21 AM
Sorry to jump on the transfer thread with non transfer news but just to give my view on above. One of our most frustrating aspect of our play last year was our use (or lack of) of attacking full backs. Our attacking tactics were so one-dimensional. Also, player development was so poor. Even Harrison, who was excited about playing for a player he admired started losing his mojo by the end. My view is that Robinson is an upgrade on Frederics but you weren't given a chance to see that last season. Good players started to naturally gel by mid season. It took some impressively bad coaching to then make them a worse team.
I struggle to remember a Fulham manager that has got less out of a team. Wins on Merseyside were proof of how good the team could be. In fact, the tactics were correct for those games in much the same way a faulty watch is occasionally right.

Jol, Magath, Dicks, Branfoot. Parker wins.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 06, 2021, 11:14:54 AM
I hope to see Tosin at the club this season although I suspect he won't be.  If, as rumoured, there is a £10m buyout clause then many premier division clubs will be considering making a move.  Given that MC apparently have a 20 pc sell on clause the profit on his sale will be limited.  If anyone comes in then a young ambitious player will want to play at the top level.  It will be a shame for the FFC supporters but part of the fallout of relegation.

The release clause expires this week. Either tomorrow or Saturday, I’m not sure which.

It's tomorrow if the rumours are true, leaves no time for anyone to put in a bid and agree a contract, so we should be okay. Hopefully we'll ask for double the cost for any bids in the future.

They don’t need to have agreed a contract l. They just need to have triggered the fee
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Ivorwasgod on July 06, 2021, 11:17:18 AM
there was a very interesting couple of posts on another thread about Silva's tactics at Watford and Everton

he looks for the full backs to provide width so will be interesting as to who he selects. 

on a slightly different note - also need to add Steve Sess and Marlon Fossey into the mix again at full back - i

i'd also forgotten that both Steve Sess and Onomah were members of that U17 WC winning team
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: hongkongfulham on July 06, 2021, 11:21:52 AM
there was a very interesting couple of posts on another thread about Silva's tactics at Watford and Everton

he looks for the full backs to provide width so will be interesting as to who he selects. 

on a slightly different note - also need to add Steve Sess and Marlon Fossey into the mix again at full back - i

i'd also forgotten that both Steve Sess and Onomah were members of that U17 WC winning team

Was interesting to see what role Onomah will play. Was obviously Parkers pet, scored that wonder goal and was very good in the run in to promotion but has also gone missing in games.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Ivorwasgod on July 06, 2021, 11:29:36 AM
there was a very interesting couple of posts on another thread about Silva's tactics at Watford and Everton

he looks for the full backs to provide width so will be interesting as to who he selects. 

on a slightly different note - also need to add Steve Sess and Marlon Fossey into the mix again at full back - i

i'd also forgotten that both Steve Sess and Onomah were members of that U17 WC winning team

Was interesting to see what role Onomah will play. Was obviously Parkers pet, scored that wonder goal and was very good in the run in to promotion but has also gone missing in games.

actually https://www.transfermarkt.com/josh-onomah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/243589 (https://www.transfermarkt.com/josh-onomah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/243589) his championship stats (for us and Villa)  arent that bad 79 games, 7 goals and 9 assists 

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: PaulJ123 on July 06, 2021, 12:35:14 PM
there was a very interesting couple of posts on another thread about Silva's tactics at Watford and Everton

he looks for the full backs to provide width so will be interesting as to who he selects. 

on a slightly different note - also need to add Steve Sess and Marlon Fossey into the mix again at full back - i

i'd also forgotten that both Steve Sess and Onomah were members of that U17 WC winning team

Was interesting to see what role Onomah will play. Was obviously Parkers pet, scored that wonder goal and was very good in the run in to promotion but has also gone missing in games.

actually https://www.transfermarkt.com/josh-onomah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/243589 (https://www.transfermarkt.com/josh-onomah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/243589) his championship stats (for us and Villa)  arent that bad 79 games, 7 goals and 9 assists

That’s pretty bad
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: hongkongfulham on July 06, 2021, 12:47:12 PM
there was a very interesting couple of posts on another thread about Silva's tactics at Watford and Everton

he looks for the full backs to provide width so will be interesting as to who he selects. 

on a slightly different note - also need to add Steve Sess and Marlon Fossey into the mix again at full back - i

i'd also forgotten that both Steve Sess and Onomah were members of that U17 WC winning team

Was interesting to see what role Onomah will play. Was obviously Parkers pet, scored that wonder goal and was very good in the run in to promotion but has also gone missing in games.

actually https://www.transfermarkt.com/josh-onomah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/243589 (https://www.transfermarkt.com/josh-onomah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/243589) his championship stats (for us and Villa)  arent that bad 79 games, 7 goals and 9 assists

That’s pretty bad

Well he was a young'un but was also has played in promotion chasing sides so on balance pretty average. Needs to step up his contributions for sure but with some confidence he could be a player in my book. Heres hoping it happens for the lad
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 06, 2021, 12:49:22 PM
there was a very interesting couple of posts on another thread about Silva's tactics at Watford and Everton

he looks for the full backs to provide width so will be interesting as to who he selects. 

on a slightly different note - also need to add Steve Sess and Marlon Fossey into the mix again at full back - i

i'd also forgotten that both Steve Sess and Onomah were members of that U17 WC winning team

Was interesting to see what role Onomah will play. Was obviously Parkers pet, scored that wonder goal and was very good in the run in to promotion but has also gone missing in games.

actually https://www.transfermarkt.com/josh-onomah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/243589 (https://www.transfermarkt.com/josh-onomah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/243589) his championship stats (for us and Villa)  arent that bad 79 games, 7 goals and 9 assists

That’s pretty bad

Depends how many of those 79 games were from the bench I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 06, 2021, 01:13:25 PM
there was a very interesting couple of posts on another thread about Silva's tactics at Watford and Everton

he looks for the full backs to provide width so will be interesting as to who he selects. 

on a slightly different note - also need to add Steve Sess and Marlon Fossey into the mix again at full back - i

i'd also forgotten that both Steve Sess and Onomah were members of that U17 WC winning team

Was interesting to see what role Onomah will play. Was obviously Parkers pet, scored that wonder goal and was very good in the run in to promotion but has also gone missing in games.

actually https://www.transfermarkt.com/josh-onomah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/243589 (https://www.transfermarkt.com/josh-onomah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/243589) his championship stats (for us and Villa)  arent that bad 79 games, 7 goals and 9 assists

That’s pretty bad

A goal involvement every 5 games on average for a central midfielder is pretty good, what numbers aren't "pretty bad" in your mind?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 06, 2021, 01:23:05 PM
https://the72.co.uk/241481/fulham-interested-in-watford-midfielder-will-hughes/

Wouldn't be against this depending on the finances involved.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 06, 2021, 01:26:07 PM
https://the72.co.uk/241481/fulham-interested-in-watford-midfielder-will-hughes/

Wouldn't be against this depending on the finances involved.

I just can’t see this, he was a regular starter for them last season. So will likely be the same story this season
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 06, 2021, 01:29:10 PM
https://the72.co.uk/241481/fulham-interested-in-watford-midfielder-will-hughes/

Wouldn't be against this depending on the finances involved.

Very good player and would be a great but unlikely signing.

When I used to play Football Manager I bought him as a teenager and he turned into one of the best players in the world so I don’t think he has quite lived up to that potential.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: twang on July 06, 2021, 03:35:02 PM
Connor McAvoy and Taye Ashby-Hammond has extended their contracts. Out of the players that the club have offered new deals to/open talks with only Jean-Pierre Tiehi, Mika Biereth and Marcus Bettinelli are yet to extend their contracts.

https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2021/july/McAvoy-And-Ashby-Hammond-Extend-Stay/
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 06, 2021, 04:07:38 PM
It is a new era, we have no idea what Silva's tactics will be or what type of player he will favour. No use looking at his history, remember Jocanovic when at Watford had them playing a different type of football to that he introduced at the Cottage. Silva likewise could introduce something new at the Cottage.

I am eagerly awaiting to see if he intends to build an attack around Mitro and if Cav. and Knock are to stay with us.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 06, 2021, 04:41:17 PM
I think that some have forgotten that managers can make players perform better. Remember the miracles that Joka worked with players like Scott Malone and Sone Aluko.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 07, 2021, 09:10:38 AM
Journalist Alex Crook saying Fulham won the race to sign goalkeeper Ethan Horvath from Club Brugge. US international. Strange one
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 07, 2021, 09:20:13 AM
Journalist Alex Crook saying Fulham won the race to sign goalkeeper Ethan Horvath from Club Brugge. US international. Strange one

Not really, he's 25 so young for a GK, free agent and comes from a team that wont be paying him fortunes. Means we probably do a like for like swap with Betts and save some room on wages as he won't be coming in assuming he's #1 and means we can offload Fabri too and use one of the U23's as third choice keeper.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 07, 2021, 09:24:00 AM
Journalist Alex Crook saying Fulham won the race to sign goalkeeper Ethan Horvath from Club Brugge. US international. Strange one

Not really, he's 25 so young for a GK, free agent and comes from a team that wont be paying him fortunes. Means we probably do a like for like swap with Betts and save some room on wages as he won't be coming in assuming he's #1 and means we can offload Fabri too and use one of the U23's as third choice keeper.

No that’s fair enough, I thought we were paying a fee for him but seems his contract is up. So I’m all for it!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 07, 2021, 09:38:09 AM
Journalist Alex Crook saying Fulham won the race to sign goalkeeper Ethan Horvath from Club Brugge. US international. Strange one

Not really, he's 25 so young for a GK, free agent and comes from a team that wont be paying him fortunes. Means we probably do a like for like swap with Betts and save some room on wages as he won't be coming in assuming he's #1 and means we can offload Fabri too and use one of the U23's as third choice keeper.

No that’s fair enough, I thought we were paying a fee for him but seems his contract is up. So I’m all for it!
Not that strange as Fabri is available for loan and Betts isnt around unless he signed a new deal so we need a keeper.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: MickeyAdamsFamily on July 07, 2021, 10:47:42 AM
If it's true that we've signed Horvath, it's a bit of a coup.
Until recently, he's been a not-very-well-known player, the USA backup keeper to Man City's Zach Steffen. In the Concacaf nations cup final versus arch-rival Mexico, Horvath came on to replace the injured Steffen and proceeded to make a series of great, smart plays and big saves as Mexico poured on the pressure and the game went to overtime. He capped it off with a great save of a penalty kick that Mexico was awarded in like the 118th minute, and was mobbed by his teammates at the final whistle. He was undoubtedly the hero of the moment, and Chelsea's Pulisic was effusive with praise afterwards. There's much talk that he's earned the #1 shirt with that game, and if not, he's definitely in the conversation.
He and Rodak would be very strong duo to have at 'keeper in the Championship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUpKKlJFdrc
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 07, 2021, 02:32:52 PM
Looking for gossip, don´t bother with the BBC site. All you ever see is Arsenal, Spurs, Man City, Man Utd & Liverpool being linked with every player with 2 feet.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 07, 2021, 02:33:23 PM
Betts is definitely gone.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 07, 2021, 02:52:11 PM
After those latest financial reports we need players out the door before anyone comes in
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 07, 2021, 02:56:33 PM
Those latest reports were up to 2020
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 07, 2021, 02:59:42 PM
After those latest financial reports we need players out the door before anyone comes in
yes definitely. The squad is bloated and still has lots of dead wood that need to be moved on. I'd like to see a good clear out of 7 or 8 players and we can then bring in 4 or 5 that would strengthen us. Ideally a new striker (2 if Mitro goes), a pacy winger who can cross, a creative midfielder and a back up Goalie - it seems we have one identified already
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 07, 2021, 03:02:27 PM
I’d assume Horvath coming in can only happen cos Betts is leaving
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 07, 2021, 03:08:53 PM
The more I read about Horvath the more I like this signing. Good backup who could step in for Rodak if needed. Free as well, if we can do more like this Id be very happy.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JoeS on July 07, 2021, 03:22:37 PM
The more I read about Horvath the more I like this signing. Good backup who could step in for Rodak if needed. Free as well, if we can do more like this Id be very happy.

Agreed, we haven't used the free transfer market well for several seasons now. It's a great way to build your squad 1) early and 2) financially well. He should be able to push Rodak on and be able to step in if needed.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Denver Fulham on July 07, 2021, 03:24:39 PM
The more I read about Horvath the more I like this signing. Good backup who could step in for Rodak if needed. Free as well, if we can do more like this Id be very happy.

If this comes off, this is a nice gamble.

Horvath is a Denver kid who moved overseas at 18. Played decently for Molde in Norway and got a move to Club Brugge, where his career stalled the past two years, but he has a good amount of UCL and EL experience. He's been firmly in the USMNT mix, although Zach Steffen is the clear first-choice keeper for the US at this time. As someone noted, Horvath came on for an injured Steffen recently in the Nations League final vs MEX and ended up as the hero with several huge saves. There's upside here, for sure. Rodak/Horvath would be a very solid Champ tandem. Horvath needs playing time, so I doubt he'd sign without some opportunity to be the No. 1. Could be an interesting battle, and definitely strengthens that position for us.

For added Fulhamishness, Horvath now has one of the funniest accents you'll ever hear after his time in Norway and Belgium. It sounds like someone from Newfoundland after about 8 beers.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sunburywhite on July 07, 2021, 05:30:08 PM
And he has a roundabout named after him outside the Fullers brewery
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HV71 on July 07, 2021, 05:59:38 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on July 07, 2021, 11:31:03 PM
The more I read about Horvath the more I like this signing. Good backup who could step in for Rodak if needed. Free as well, if we can do more like this Id be very happy.

Agreed, we haven't used the free transfer market well for several seasons now. It's a great way to build your squad 1) early and 2) financially well. He should be able to push Rodak on and be able to step in if needed.

He's a quality, American keeper as well all things considered, and if we're good at any position on the pitch, it's in goal.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on July 08, 2021, 01:51:54 AM
Some American commentators have said that Horvath, although he was not the first choice keeper at Club Brugge this past season, was in fact the better keeper at the club... this coming from some soccer coaches. He also performed outstanding in one game against Mexico this summer, which has some people calling for him to start over for the USMNT over Zac Steffen the #2 at Man City.  He has better feet movement than Steffen apparently. All that said... he doesn't come across as a strong character and I could see him being eaten alive by the pressure in England. He's a nice guy and is a talented keeper, but he's a quiet, nice guy type. That said Petr Cech was similarly a quiet, nice guy type. Thibaut Courtois as well... who Horvath reminds me of the most out of the big club keepers.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on July 08, 2021, 08:12:37 AM
https://the72.co.uk/241481/fulham-interested-in-watford-midfielder-will-hughes/

Wouldn't be against this depending on the finances involved.

Very good player and would be a great but unlikely signing.

When I used to play Football Manager I bought him as a teenager and he turned into one of the best players in the world so I don’t think he has quite lived up to that potential.

The Sun quote Newcastle as in for Hughes with £12 mill bid
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 08, 2021, 02:15:04 PM
Liverpool interested in signing Anguissa according to the Liverpool Echo.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Wolf on July 08, 2021, 04:11:50 PM
Ethan Horvath has made 7 appearances in all competitions for Club Brugge over the last two seasons. Club Brugge first choice keeper Simon Mignolet made 90 appearances in the same period. Transfermarkt value Horvath at £1.2M.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 08, 2021, 06:22:20 PM
Liverpool interested in signing Anguissa according to the Liverpool Echo.
After the sh1t they pulled with Harvey Elliott, we need to pull their pants down if this is true!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 08, 2021, 06:38:13 PM
After those latest financial reports we need players out the door before anyone comes in
Centre backs need sorting, there can't be space for Mawson, Kongola, Tosin, Hector and Ream.
The new managers needs to aim at the two best players for each position plus a couple of utility players and a couple of youngsters.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 11, 2021, 11:32:58 PM
Cash 14m, Lewis 15m, Walker-Peters 12m, Doherty 15m

I would expect prices to be done slightly this summer so around 15m is probably decent money for Robinson
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 12, 2021, 02:38:16 PM
Former Fulham player Denis Adeniran has left Everton to go Shefff Wed. They signed him from us for £4m and hes gone on a free.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Bronaldinho on July 12, 2021, 02:46:41 PM
After those latest financial reports we need players out the door before anyone comes in

We had to delay Hector deal until Sess funds were cleared - and we never really recovered from there either.

We definitely have to sell some.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on July 12, 2021, 04:23:06 PM
Liverpool interested in signing Anguissa according to the Liverpool Echo.
After the sh1t they pulled with Harvey Elliott, we need to pull their pants down if this is true!

Definitely a Liverpool kind of player and yes they need to pay a fair price, ideally we at least get back what we paid. They spent very little last season, so should have the money.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Classic94 on July 12, 2021, 04:45:59 PM
I can see us cashing in on Anguissa and Robinson. Not sure about Mitro, but he’d be a huge loss at this level. If we could somehow offload Seri’s wages, I suspect that’d be a help too.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 12, 2021, 04:49:22 PM
Think Mitro might be back if what I've been told is true, move to Besiktas broke down due to wage demands. Heard he could be training soon
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 12, 2021, 05:58:42 PM
Think Mitro might be back if what I've been told is true, move to Besiktas broke down due to wage demands. Heard he could be training soon

This is what I’ve heard too. Besiktas now signing Diego Costa On a free instead. Fulham would not let Mitro go unless Besiktas covered his full wage which they cannot do
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 12, 2021, 06:08:37 PM
Think Mitro might be back if what I've been told is true, move to Besiktas broke down due to wage demands. Heard he could be training soon

This is what I’ve heard too. Besiktas now signing Diego Costa On a free instead. Fulham would not let Mitro go unless Besiktas covered his full wage which they cannot do
Surely Costa is on more than MItro, his last deal with Atletico was rumoured to be 250k per week?

Rumour form during last season is that MItro has (and still has i do not know) a transfer request on the table. Only speculation as i have said before as i do not have any onside info
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 12, 2021, 07:04:16 PM
I've watch the USA vs Mexico match in it's entirety 4 times.    I'd love to see Horvath on the Whites.   Came into the match cold and helped save our bacon in a tough situation.

I'm sure Dempsey said something to him (Dempsey was in the announcing booth during the game).   Robinson and Ream also probably whispered in his ear.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 12, 2021, 07:43:45 PM
Think Mitro might be back if what I've been told is true, move to Besiktas broke down due to wage demands. Heard he could be training soon

This is what I’ve heard too. Besiktas now signing Diego Costa On a free instead. Fulham would not let Mitro go unless Besiktas covered his full wage which they cannot do
Surely Costa is on more than MItro, his last deal with Atletico was rumoured to be 250k per week?

Rumour form during last season is that MItro has (and still has i do not know) a transfer request on the table. Only speculation as i have said before as i do not have any onside info

But fulham also need a 5/6 million pound fee to cover amortisation. Mitro is on 80k a week, which is 4 million a year. I’ve seen that Costa is willing to sign for Besiktas for 2.5 million a year
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 12, 2021, 09:39:00 PM
Think Mitro might be back if what I've been told is true, move to Besiktas broke down due to wage demands. Heard he could be training soon

This is what I’ve heard too. Besiktas now signing Diego Costa On a free instead. Fulham would not let Mitro go unless Besiktas covered his full wage which they cannot do
Surely Costa is on more than MItro, his last deal with Atletico was rumoured to be 250k per week?

Rumour form during last season is that MItro has (and still has i do not know) a transfer request on the table. Only speculation as i have said before as i do not have any onside info

But fulham also need a 5/6 million pound fee to cover amortisation. Mitro is on 80k a week, which is 4 million a year. I’ve seen that Costa is willing to sign for Besiktas for 2.5 million a year
We got a million fee for seri last season I believe that would not have covered the amortisation, so not sure we would look too or be able to cover that. Problem with relegation is that some see clubs as desperate to reduce costs, now i dont know our finances but of thats the case ( I hope it isn’t) then we could be forced to accept less in order to recoup some funds against this.

I also cannot see Costa only costing that, maybe salary but there will be a hefty signing fee and maybe yearly loyalty fee, to compensate the lower monthly salary

Don’t get me wrong I hope it is correct as keeping Mitro could turn out to be a good move. Hopefully he wants to stay
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 12, 2021, 09:54:32 PM
Seri wouldn't have made the squad last season whereas Mitro would be a key player if he stays. Which might explain the difference in policy.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 12, 2021, 10:06:29 PM
Seri wouldn't have made the squad last season whereas Mitro would be a key player if he stays. Which might explain the difference in policy.
Your probably right, but if you “have” to cover amortisation then you don’t allow them to go cheap.I would think given it was stated last year by TK in a video update around transfer deadline day,  that we were very tight on FFP that we would have wanted to cover amortisation or as much as possible.

I fear we are tight this year so do we need to cover it all or as much as we can. Obviously I am hoping we are not tight on FFP and that Mitro stays
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: legana on July 12, 2021, 10:26:08 PM
I've watch the USA vs Mexico match in it's entirety 4 times.    I'd love to see Horvath on the Whites.   Came into the match cold and helped save our bacon in a tough situation.

I'm sure Dempsey said something to him (Dempsey was in the announcing booth during the game).   Robinson and Ream also probably whispered in his ear.

Sounds encouraging. I haven't really watched the US men's team for quite a few years due to their absence in the last World Cup. Any outfield players we should be looking at? Would be great to find the next McBride.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Asotosyios on July 12, 2021, 10:31:34 PM
Seri wouldn't have made the squad last season whereas Mitro would be a key player if he stays. Which might explain the difference in policy.

That's not exactly true. We could have done with Seri or Johansen in the 25-man squad to begin the season in place of one of the 10-11 defenders.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 13, 2021, 09:09:19 AM
I am wondering who is dealing with transfer matters. We are lead to believe TK has stepped back or is he still involved. We have no D of Scouting. What involvement has Silva got. Is Ali Mac involved. Not heard anything from him in ages. Is Shaid now directly involved. Lots of questions but no answers from the Club.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Classic94 on July 13, 2021, 09:52:39 AM
I am wondering who is dealing with transfer matters. We are lead to believe TK has stepped back or is he still involved. We have no D of Scouting. What involvement has Silva got. Is Ali Mac involved. Not heard anything from him in ages. Is Shaid now directly involved. Lots of questions but no answers from the Club.

Agreed. The communication on important matters from the club is virtually non-existent.

Obviously, I don’t expect to know our transfer dealings, but some loose guidance on club structure and who’s responsible for what would be nice.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on July 13, 2021, 09:55:29 AM
I'm in favour of Seri starting with a clean slate if he wants to stay. Thinking back to the Hodgson years our squad was made up of players that had fallen out of favour at their previous club and were seemingly past their best.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 13, 2021, 10:19:49 AM
I am fed up with the various sports media sites assuming that Robinson & Zambo will be leaving. We do not need to sell these 2 as we need a strong squad with what will be a long season. We have to also be aware of a massive increase in Covid infections. This has the potential of decimating a squad with self isolations or worse. We need sufficient cover plus some key signings. The Club should make it clear that no one is for sale unless they are surplus to requirements.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Penfold on July 13, 2021, 10:50:25 AM
I am fed up with the various sports media sites assuming that Robinson & Zambo will be leaving. We do not need to sell these 2 as we need a strong squad with what will be a long season. We have to also be aware of a massive increase in Covid infections. This has the potential of decimating a squad with self isolations or worse. We need sufficient cover plus some key signings. The Club should make it clear that no one is for sale unless they are surplus to requirements.

I would think that we have what  we regard as an acceptable fee for each player.

With regards to not having to sell players, as long as it's a sale that doesn't affect our FFP negatively, one or two may need to be sold to keep as out of FFP trouble.

I'm not expecting much cash to be splashed by FFC. Probably a number of loan signings to be made.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 13, 2021, 01:54:53 PM
Surprised that there has not been more rumours about players currently in portugal; a couple of random names that would be interesting Rodrigo Battaglia and Rafael Camacho
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 13, 2021, 02:21:32 PM
young american striker on the move... Josh Sargent will almost certainly leave the relegated (and broke) W Bremen this summer, i like the look of him.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 13, 2021, 02:55:16 PM
Mama Baldé is leaving Dijon, used to play for Sporting...would be a great signing.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on July 13, 2021, 03:04:29 PM
Mama Baldé is leaving Dijon, used to play for Sporting...would be a great signing.

Just watched his highlights - looks exciting (given editing of course). Transfermkt gives a €4.5m valuation & describes him as right winger right back or centre forward - quite a reach :003:

1 in 4 goal ratio from the wing is very good...would think Silva would have come across him before...
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Moltobueno on July 13, 2021, 03:43:56 PM
What about Bernard from Everton? Played under Silva before and can't see too many games in starting 11 under Benitez
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: twang on July 13, 2021, 04:00:34 PM
What about Bernard from Everton? Played under Silva before and can't see too many games in starting 11 under Benitez

Think he's on more than £100k a week there.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on July 13, 2021, 10:39:06 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 13, 2021, 11:04:02 PM
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I’m gonna assume we couldn’t guarantee him number 1
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on July 13, 2021, 11:05:03 PM
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That's not great news, or expected...

Looks like we'll have Fabri for another season. I feel sorry for him tbh.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on July 13, 2021, 11:37:43 PM
Agent must have tried to use Fulham in negotiating a deal with Nottm Forest. Lol.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on July 14, 2021, 05:29:00 AM
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That's not great news, or expected...

Looks like we'll have Fabri for another season. I feel sorry for him tbh.



I did notice in the training video, one of the youngsters was with rodak not fabri
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 14, 2021, 08:26:28 AM
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I’m gonna assume we couldn’t guarantee him number 1

Or the rumour we were in for him could just have been completely false. Which most of them are.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: PaulJ123 on July 14, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
 :005: As proven with Silva joining, unless it’s a “big” name we won’t know about it until it’s announced officially.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on July 14, 2021, 10:04:17 AM
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That's not great news, or expected...

Looks like we'll have Fabri for another season. I feel sorry for him tbh.

I'm not that fussed, Rodak is a great keeper and keeper's don't normally get lots of injuries. I'm sure Fabri is fine at this level. If Horvath wanted guaranteed playing time it's not worth it.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 14, 2021, 10:47:38 AM
Maybe we should give Fabri a chance again anyway? Rodale deserves the spot but wouldnt be mad at Fabri in the cup and or if Rodak struggles or gets injured.

Was a top keeper prior to signing with us and the poor sod had to line up in the premiership behind the likes of Ream, Odoi, Mawson,Christie
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: cmg on July 14, 2021, 11:42:15 AM

I did notice in the training video, one of the youngsters was with rodak not fabri

That was Luca Ashby-Hammond, one of England's top prospects. Saves and scores penalties!
George Wickens, another age group International, has also been featured in photos. As has Fabri, so we are reasonably covered for keepers.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 14, 2021, 11:52:26 AM
We are being linked with Swansea captain Matt Grimes, us and Bournemouth chasing him apparently
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 14, 2021, 11:57:29 AM
We are being linked with Swansea captain Matt Grimes, us and Bournemouth chasing him apparently
Is Grimes Parkerball or Silvaball?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 14, 2021, 01:12:13 PM
Maybe we should give Fabri a chance again anyway? Rodale deserves the spot but wouldnt be mad at Fabri in the cup and or if Rodak struggles or gets injured.

Was a top keeper prior to signing with us and the poor sod had to line up in the premiership behind the likes of Ream, Odoi, Mawson,Christie

Fabri is a decent GK but he is only 184 cm which will always be a liability in the Championship.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HV71 on July 14, 2021, 01:59:44 PM
We are being linked with Swansea captain Matt Grimes, us and Bournemouth chasing him apparently
Is Grimes Parkerball or Silvaball?


We need a midfielder who can score goals - a Silva machine - Grimes doesn’t get very many ( decent player but don’t think it’s what we need )
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 14, 2021, 02:07:10 PM
Maybe we should give Fabri a chance again anyway? Rodale deserves the spot but wouldnt be mad at Fabri in the cup and or if Rodak struggles or gets injured.

Was a top keeper prior to signing with us and the poor sod had to line up in the premiership behind the likes of Ream, Odoi, Mawson,Christie

Fabri is a decent GK but he is only 184 cm which will always be a liability in the Championship.

Didn't stop Pickford from saving a penalty against one of the best takers in the world. if you're good enough, you're good enough.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 14, 2021, 02:44:20 PM
We are being linked with Swansea captain Matt Grimes, us and Bournemouth chasing him apparently
Is Grimes Parkerball or Silvaball?


We need a midfielder who can score goals - a Silva machine - Grimes doesn’t get very many ( decent player but don’t think it’s what we need )
Not many goals?  So he's definitely a parkerballer then.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HV71 on July 14, 2021, 02:54:47 PM
12 goals in 262 appearances - probably sports a decent cardigan as well
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 14, 2021, 03:45:06 PM
Maybe we should give Fabri a chance again anyway? Rodale deserves the spot but wouldnt be mad at Fabri in the cup and or if Rodak struggles or gets injured.

Was a top keeper prior to signing with us and the poor sod had to line up in the premiership behind the likes of Ream, Odoi, Mawson,Christie

Fabri is a decent GK but he is only 184 cm which will always be a liability in the Championship.

 A 6 foot tall Goalkeeper is not ideal in the rough and tumble of the Championship. Can he command his area, does he have a presence in the penalty area.
He may make up for it in other ways but 6 feet goalkeeper means he has to be exceptional in other areas.
I remember Ron Springett was 5ft 11ins but he was a very exceptional goalkeeper.
I would have thought defenders would prefere a big lump who can catch the ball at its highest point rather than leave it to them to clear their lines whereupon it comes straight back to put them under unnecessarily pressure.
Plus it is not as though Fabri can take a step ladder into the six yard box to help him.
I do not think that is allowed at any level.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 15, 2021, 12:29:54 AM
Didn't a very young Jordan Pickford play in the Championship?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 15, 2021, 12:47:43 AM
12 goals in 262 appearances - probably sports a decent cardigan as well

He's a defensive/CM
scored more in his career than Anguissa! Ha

That's not what he's there for form my understanding. Makes me think Reed or Frank will certainly be off then. Although suppose he could be to replace Lemina
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 15, 2021, 06:43:53 AM
12 goals in 262 appearances - probably sports a decent cardigan as well

He's a defensive/CM
scored more in his career than Anguissa! Ha

That's not what he's there for form my understanding. Makes me think Reed or Frank will certainly be off then. Although suppose he could be to replace Lemina
I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 15, 2021, 09:14:49 AM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RaySmith on July 15, 2021, 09:22:24 AM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of keeping Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan want Anguissa to prove himself in Ligue Un so if we didn't get promoted he could sell him above his book value to make a profit.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

I do wonder if it's true that such as  him and Seri 'didn't want to play' in the Champ.
Could be to do with  not thinking they were suitable, or  adding numbers to the  squad, as  you said, or TK wanting him in the shop window to ensure a profit as you also say, or agents.

I think it was always  assumed that Ruiz didn't want to play in the Champ, when he didn't feature  under Magath, but fot whatever reason he never left the club, and actually did play a number of Champ games under Symonds.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FulhamStu on July 15, 2021, 09:25:25 AM
I expect loaning high earners out has everything to do with FFP.  Mawson, Anguissa, Seri, MLM, will all be on big money. If we can afford to keep our big players they COULD be like buying a premier ready player which is what many of us want is it not.  I know, I know, Mawson needs to stay fit and MLM and Seri have not demonstrated their worth so far, but you get my drift.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 15, 2021, 10:00:40 AM

Or the rumour, we were in for him could just have been completely false. Which most of them are.

Most of the rumours of offers are true, but meaningless because they won't result in a sale. The problem is that an "undisclosed offer to buy" can be so far from the "actual price that the club is willing to sell" that it makes the rumours meaningless. I remember watching "Sunderland til I Die" and written on a board is a list of offers including Scott McTominay, seems like a real offer with 0% chance of being accepted. I hear that agents get so many offers on players, that some players don't ever keep track of them all. Unless, the player is checking out the training facilitates, agreeing on personal terms or getting a fittest test it doesn't mean much, except a bit of discussions.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 15, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
I expect loaning high earners out has everything to do with FFP.  Mawson, Anguissa, Seri, MLM, will all be on big money. If we can afford to keep our big players they COULD be like buying a premier ready player which is what many of us want is it not.  I know, I know, Mawson needs to stay fit and MLM and Seri have not demonstrated their worth so far, but you get my drift.

Well said, many of the players with four-year contracts (MLM, Mawson, and Seri) have not demonstrated their worth so far, but their time here is not yet over. The best example of a player that hadn't demonstrated his worth was Kebano, because, until lockdown, he hadn't justified his price, but his last three games in his contract with two semi-final goals covered the cost 10x.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jim© on July 15, 2021, 10:35:35 AM

That's not what he's there for form my understanding. Makes me think Reed or Frank will certainly be off then. Although suppose he could be to replace Lemina

The last picture of Reed training was over 10 days ago, nowhere to be seen the last few vids/images. There's been rumours of Palace sniffing around for him which would be an odd move IMO. If he is off, then I'd be straight back after Lemina who really impressed me for the main part last season- rumoured to be available for £4m.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 15, 2021, 10:37:51 AM

That's not what he's there for form my understanding. Makes me think Reed or Frank will certainly be off then. Although suppose he could be to replace Lemina

The last picture of Reed training was over 10 days ago, nowhere to be seen the last few vids/images. There's been rumours of Palace sniffing around for him which would be an odd move IMO. If he is off, then I'd be straight back after Lemina who really impressed me for the main part last season- rumoured to be available for £4m.

He was in the video they put out on Sunday so is still at Motspur. Given he does have an injury history it is entirely plausible he's either got a niggle early on or they're just managing his workload differently to ensure that he's fit at the start of the season
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Ara's bacon crisps on July 15, 2021, 11:15:49 AM
Didn't a very young Jordan Pickford play in the Championship?
I remember him playing for Preston at the Cottage and he was outstanding that day.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 15, 2021, 12:14:08 PM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?
It's what I read, and of course you cannot always rely on that. So ok I accept that it's just hearsay and we will see if he starts for us against Middlesbrough. I think of the assets we have though, he could bring in some cash that we could reinvest, and I see Harrison Reed as more important to us. We would miss him more if he left is my point.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 15, 2021, 12:16:37 PM
I cannot see us doing any business in the next 5-7 days, i say this as surely Silva is still evaluating the squad first hand. I know he did a presentation in his interview about players etc but that would have been from what he had seen on video and from maybe his teams playing against us, that is different to seeing them in the flesh every day on the training pitch and looking at attitudes and ways that they work.

So in my opinion i cant see anything in the next week.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 15, 2021, 12:19:46 PM
I cannot see us doing any business in the next 5-7 days, i say this as surely Silva is still evaluating the squad first hand. I know he did a presentation in his interview about players etc but that would have been from what he had seen on video and from maybe his teams playing against us, that is different to seeing them in the flesh every day on the training pitch and looking at attitudes and ways that they work.

So in my opinion i cant see anything in the next week.
I believe he said he was gonna take the next 8-10 days to evaluate the squad in his first interview which is sensible. Might well be deals waiting on his go ahead like StefJo to QPR etc

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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on July 15, 2021, 01:34:47 PM
Newcastle target Boubacar Kamara, 21, has turned down a new contract with French side Marseille. The Magpies would look to bring the France U21s midfielder to St James' Park for around £15m.

Any chance of a switcheroo for Aboubakar Kamara for £15m?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Bracken White on July 15, 2021, 04:05:38 PM
Something of a positive, in my opinion, is that Stuart Gray remains in situ as one of Marco Silva's assistants. Must be a real asset to the Club as a whole that he remains & surely has valid input into MS's squad evaluation. That said, elated that Boa has joined the coaching staff!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 15, 2021, 04:46:45 PM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 15, 2021, 04:54:31 PM
Are people genuinely basing transfer rumours on players not being in any pictures on the website?

I know we're in strange times, but come on lads.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 15, 2021, 05:16:03 PM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.

Not sure we have wasted that much money on Zambo. He is probably worth close'ish to what we paid for him (22m on transfermarkt), he has played most of the games since he joined and we may even have received a loan fee for when he was away in spain.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: BarryP on July 15, 2021, 07:10:40 PM
Are people genuinely basing transfer rumours on players not being in any pictures on the website?

I know we're in strange times, but come on lads.

This thread is always active.  A lack of actual rumors will lead those so inclined to self-stimulation of the cranium.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: cmg on July 15, 2021, 07:40:00 PM
Are people genuinely basing transfer rumours on players not being in any pictures on the website?

I know we're in strange times, but come on lads.

This thread is always active.  A lack of actual rumors will lead those so inclined to self-stimulation of the cranium.

In the picture issued today focusing on the younger players, if you look closely at the third one, the one featuring Jay Stansfield, you can see, at the extreme r/h edge an elbow. I am confident this is Harrison Reed's - and very fit it looks. I only hope the rest of him hasn't been transferred.

On a marginally more serious note. There seems a fair amount of agreement that we should not feature Cairney and Seri in the same side; is it also thought that we should avoid the idea of featuring Reed and StefJo in tandem?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 15, 2021, 07:57:30 PM
Are people genuinely basing transfer rumours on players not being in any pictures on the website?

I know we're in strange times, but come on lads.

This thread is always active.  A lack of actual rumors will lead those so inclined to self-stimulation of the cranium.

In the picture issued today focusing on the younger players, if you look closely at the third one, the one featuring Jay Stansfield, you can see, at the extreme r/h edge an elbow. I am confident this is Harrison Reed's - and very fit it looks. I only hope the rest of him hasn't been transferred.

On a marginally more serious note. There seems a fair amount of agreement that we should not feature Cairney and Seri in the same side; is it also thought that we should avoid the idea of featuring Reed and StefJo in tandem?

No I think Reed and Stef could play together, Reed more defensive whereas Johansen is more box to box
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 15, 2021, 08:08:47 PM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


My Woolly friend,
How can one judge his body language with his eyes shut
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 15, 2021, 08:14:28 PM
I'm sure Marco has done his home work and will be putting his arm around each player, in private.'
and discussing their potential with the club, or not.
He will also be massaging the players he may want to keep, like Mitro, Reed, Mitro, Ak, Ango Seri, Johanson ?
and suitable younguns
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 15, 2021, 09:14:57 PM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


My Woolly friend,
How can one judge his body language with his eyes shut

Roger, Did you ever see that film “Eyes Wide Shut”  Featuring Tom Cruise.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 15, 2021, 10:10:29 PM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


My Woolly friend,
How can one judge his body language with his eyes shut

Roger, Did you ever see that film “Eyes Wide Shut”  Featuring Tom Cruise.

I haven't old chap but just read a little bit about it and hate to say that AK is not a blind piano player.
But he could be "key" to our promotion

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 16, 2021, 08:21:15 AM
Everton will listen to offers on 6 1st team players. Perhaps Silva will look to his old club to see if any would suit us.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JudgeBread on July 16, 2021, 11:05:27 AM
Absolutely no link and has been injured ALOT - I wonder if he could make something of Besic on a free. Particularly if we lose Reed
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 16, 2021, 03:42:56 PM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


My Woolly friend,
How can one judge his body language with his eyes shut

Roger, Did you ever see that film “Eyes Wide Shut”  Featuring Tom Cruise.

I haven't old chap but just read a little bit about it and hate to say that AK is not a blind piano player.
But he could be "key" to our promotion



To be a Key you have to find the right padlock to unlock.
Which reminds me, do you remember Johnny Key back in the 60s.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on July 16, 2021, 09:30:45 PM
Ike Ugbo a young Chelsea striker being linked with us.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 16, 2021, 10:04:44 PM
Ike Ugbo a young Chelsea striker being linked with us.

Apparently he’s going to Genk
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: 70sPimlico on July 16, 2021, 10:34:21 PM
Ike Ugbo a young Chelsea striker being linked with us.

Apparently he’s going to Genk

Guys, come on. You're interrupting the mammoth-Roger cupcaking session
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 17, 2021, 02:02:35 AM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


My Woolly friend,
How can one judge his body language with his eyes shut

Roger, Did you ever see that film “Eyes Wide Shut”  Featuring Tom Cruise.

I haven't old chap but just read a little bit about it and hate to say that AK is not a blind piano player.
But he could be "key" to our promotion



To be a Key you have to find the right padlock to unlock.
Which reminds me, do you remember Johnny Key back in the 60s.


I do but only Just  :0)
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 17, 2021, 03:51:10 AM

I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


I couldn't care less if Anguissa goes. Take the money I say and reinvest in the squad. He didn't want to play in the championship last time and why would that be different this time? However, we must keep hold of Harrison Reed. Arguably should have been player of the season for us last season. I know Areola won it and was very good but I don't like the idea of giving it to a loan player.

I don't recall Anguissa ever saying last time he didn't want to play in the Championship. Just as likely is a) Parker preferred to bring in both Reed and Arter for squad depth instead of relying on just Anguissa, and b) Tony Khan wanted Anguissa to prove himself in La Liga, so TK could sell him if we failed to get promoted for a good price.

Have you ever heard that Anguissa didn't want to play in the Championship? or just guessing that was the reason?

Even a recluse with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears  living in a cave on Mars could tell by Anguissas body language he didn’t want to be anywhere near the championship let alone Fulham. As for your chum TK he wasted a lot of his fathers money on Zambo which was nowhere near his true valuation, another classic error of judgement, so please explain how is he going to get his fathers money back.


My Woolly friend,
How can one judge his body language with his eyes shut

Roger, Did you ever see that film “Eyes Wide Shut”  Featuring Tom Cruise.

I haven't old chap but just read a little bit about it and hate to say that AK is not a blind piano player.
But he could be "key" to our promotion



To be a Key you have to find the right padlock to unlock.
Which reminds me, do you remember Johnny Key back in the 60s.


I do but only Just  :0)


Can you please do some research and gather as much information on him as possible as I shall be asking questions about him later, many thanks.
Don’t you think it’s amazing that all the news that happens in the world every day always seems to fit exactly into a newspaper. Although none of them so far have reported a definate genuine Fulham transfer that is coming in for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on July 17, 2021, 08:15:03 PM
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/fulham-linked-with-manchester-city-youngster/

Fulham are one of ten Championship clubs keen to take Manchester City midfielder Tommy Doyle on loan this season, according to reports this afternoon.

The Whites join the likes of Sheffield United, West Brom, Bournemouth, Swansea City, Middlesbrough, QPR, Coventry City, Cardiff and Blackburn Rovers in a long line of suitors for the creative midfielder, who starred as City’s under 23s claimed the Premier League 2 title last season. The teenager has made seven senior appearances for Pep Guardiola’s side after being handed his debut in a League Cup win over Southampton in 2019.

Doyle made his Premier League bow in July 2020 when he replaced Riyad Mahrez in a 5-0 victory over Newcastle. The 19 year-old is highly rated by the City coaching staff and extended his contract until the summer of 2025 last year. The club have yet to decide whether to loan Doyle out to continue his development – and a call may not be made until early August.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: cmg on July 17, 2021, 08:28:33 PM

Interesting player, Doyle. Although I wouldn't be too keen on loans this season.

He was captain of the England u19 and u20 sides that included our own Luca Ashby-Hammond and Sonny Hilton.
Be interesting to see if Hilton's come on this year. He's just come back from loan at a Finnish 2nd tier outfit (they play until the end of June). Seems he held down a first team spot but, otherwise, I've seen no reports.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 17, 2021, 08:41:45 PM
It is probable that we will lose one or two of our key players from say Mitro, Anguissa, Stefjo, Cairney and and  Robinson. The worst scenario is that they play together at Fulham for the first three or four matches and then are snatched away late in the window leaving the team in disarray and without replacements.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: cmg on July 17, 2021, 09:09:45 PM
It is probable that we will lose one or two of our key players from say Mitro, Anguissa, Stefjo, Cairney and and  Robinson. The worst scenario is that they play together at Fulham for the first three or four matches and then are snatched away late in the window leaving the team in disarray and without replacements.

Go on. If you try really hard, I'm sure you can think of a much worse scenario. I mean, you've not even factored asteroid collision into the equation.
Or, even more horrific, we retain all the valuable players, strengthen the squad and everything goes swimmingly well as we record triumph after triumph, leaving absolutely sfa to moan about.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 19, 2021, 12:31:30 PM
Apparently we are leading the race for Harry Wilson
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Craven Mad on July 19, 2021, 01:15:53 PM
Apparently we are leading the race for Harry Wilson

Would be a very good signing.

If he joins though, unless Silva plans to play him out wide, that might spell the end for TC here…
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 19, 2021, 01:17:06 PM
 :023:
Apparently we are leading the race for Harry Wilson

Would be a very good signing.

If he joins though, unless Silva plans to play him out wide, that might spell the end for TC here…

Saw an article today, stating that Sheff United have turned their attention to Conor Hourihame as TC is not for sale at any price
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Craven Mad on July 19, 2021, 01:22:41 PM
:023:
Apparently we are leading the race for Harry Wilson

Would be a very good signing.

If he joins though, unless Silva plans to play him out wide, that might spell the end for TC here…

Saw an article today, stating that Sheff United have turned their attention to Conor Hourihame as TC is not for sale at any price

Well that’d be good with me - I love TC and think he was a big miss for us last year. No doubt that Wilson would represent a good move for us though, Tom aside. Hope we pull it off.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on July 19, 2021, 01:32:21 PM
:023:
Apparently we are leading the race for Harry Wilson

Would be a very good signing.

If he joins though, unless Silva plans to play him out wide, that might spell the end for TC here…

Saw an article today, stating that Sheff United have turned their attention to Conor Hourihame as TC is not for sale at any price

Well that’d be good with me - I love TC and think he was a big miss for us last year. No doubt that Wilson would represent a good move for us though, Tom aside. Hope we pull it off.

46 League games + Cups we'll need both of them.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 19, 2021, 01:37:55 PM
:023:
Apparently we are leading the race for Harry Wilson

Would be a very good signing.

If he joins though, unless Silva plans to play him out wide, that might spell the end for TC here…

Saw an article today, stating that Sheff United have turned their attention to Conor Hourihame as TC is not for sale at any price

Well that’d be good with me - I love TC and think he was a big miss for us last year. No doubt that Wilson would represent a good move for us though, Tom aside. Hope we pull it off.

46 League games + Cups we'll need both of them.

Especially with TC’s dodgy knee
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: PaulJ123 on July 19, 2021, 01:48:52 PM
Wilson plays on the wing doesn’t he? Not the quickest but a terrific player.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tom_FFC on July 19, 2021, 02:49:28 PM
Personally think Harry Wilson would be a great fit. Great record in the championship, only 24 and gives us some much needed quality & competition in the wide positions.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 19, 2021, 03:08:48 PM
:023:
Apparently we are leading the race for Harry Wilson

Would be a very good signing.

If he joins though, unless Silva plans to play him out wide, that might spell the end for TC here…

Saw an article today, stating that Sheff United have turned their attention to Conor Hourihame as TC is not for sale at any price

Well that’d be good with me - I love TC and think he was a big miss for us last year. No doubt that Wilson would represent a good move for us though, Tom aside. Hope we pull it off.
Yes to Harry Wilson. Ideal player for us and the type of creativity and talent we should be going after.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on July 19, 2021, 03:46:47 PM
Personally think Harry Wilson would be a great fit. Great record in the championship, only 24 and gives us some much needed quality & competition in the wide positions.

He's a good player but seems to play mostly as an inverted winger. :010:
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Nero on July 19, 2021, 04:03:00 PM
:023:
Apparently we are leading the race for Harry Wilson

Would be a very good signing.

If he joins though, unless Silva plans to play him out wide, that might spell the end for TC here…

Saw an article today, stating that Sheff United have turned their attention to Conor Hourihame as TC is not for sale at any price

Well that’d be good with me - I love TC and think he was a big miss for us last year. No doubt that Wilson would represent a good move for us though, Tom aside. Hope we pull it off.

46 League games + Cups we'll need both of them.

Especially with TC’s dodgy knee

So that will be 48 games then
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 19, 2021, 04:49:09 PM
Personally think Harry Wilson would be a great fit. Great record in the championship, only 24 and gives us some much needed quality & competition in the wide positions.

He's a good player but seems to play mostly as an inverted winger. :010:

Yes, he is basically a Knockaert that knows how to take a shot
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 19, 2021, 06:57:57 PM
Personally think Harry Wilson would be a great fit. Great record in the championship, only 24 and gives us some much needed quality & competition in the wide positions.

He's a good player but seems to play mostly as an inverted winger. :010:

Yes, he is basically a Knockaert that knows how to take a shot
Yes, and will return us 10-15 goals in a season and several assists.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Oakeshott on July 19, 2021, 08:49:10 PM
"So that will be 48 games then"

More than likely.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 19, 2021, 11:32:27 PM
Personally think Harry Wilson would be a great fit. Great record in the championship, only 24 and gives us some much needed quality & competition in the wide positions.

He's a good player but seems to play mostly as an inverted winger. :010:

Nout wrong with that IF we have an overlapping full back who he doesnt mind passing to that can get to the byline!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 19, 2021, 11:33:24 PM
Personally think Harry Wilson would be a great fit. Great record in the championship, only 24 and gives us some much needed quality & competition in the wide positions.

He's a good player but seems to play mostly as an inverted winger. :010:

Yes, he is basically a Knockaert that knows how to take a shot
Yes, and will return us 10-15 goals in a season and several assists.

6 goals 12 assists in an average Cardiff team last year. Would have in theory better players around him here so possible I suppose!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 19, 2021, 11:44:18 PM
Personally think Harry Wilson would be a great fit. Great record in the championship, only 24 and gives us some much needed quality & competition in the wide positions.

He's a good player but seems to play mostly as an inverted winger. :010:

Yes, he is basically a Knockaert that knows how to take a shot
Yes, and will return us 10-15 goals in a season and several assists.

6 goals 12 assists in an average Cardiff team last year. Would have in theory better players around him here so possible I suppose!

Also imagine the service Mitro would get with Tete, Bryan and Wilson all pinging crosses into him. 40 goal season here we go!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 19, 2021, 11:56:17 PM
Harry Wilson could provide service from the right side of the field and from dead ball situations. Perfect.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jim© on July 20, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Harry Wilson could provide service from the right side of the field and from dead ball situations. Perfect.

I think we're missing a dead ball specialist at the club. Too many times last season we were alternating (with little success) through takers; Cav, Aina, BDR, Lookman, Reed were all fairly poor. I think it could add quite a lot to us.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 20, 2021, 11:13:47 AM
If the likes of Zambo, Seri and Johansen do end up leaving, Jason Knight from Derby and Lewis Baker (cheap) could be interesting alternatives to fill the gaps.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 21, 2021, 12:17:52 PM
Just seen this from TurkishFootballNews on twitter (no idea how credible that is):

#Fenerbahce has started loan negotiations with #Fulham player #AlexandrMitrovic. Fulham requests 4 million euro for 1 year loan

Bit worrying..
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 21, 2021, 01:13:56 PM
Just seen this from TurkishFootballNews on twitter (no idea how credible that is):

#Fenerbahce has started loan negotiations with #Fulham player #AlexandrMitrovic. Fulham requests 4 million euro for 1 year loan

Bit worrying..

Agree about it being worrying. Could mean some serious dealings with other strikers is taking place behind the scenes.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Porthogs FC on July 21, 2021, 01:17:19 PM
Just seen this from TurkishFootballNews on twitter (no idea how credible that is):

#Fenerbahce has started loan negotiations with #Fulham player #AlexandrMitrovic. Fulham requests 4 million euro for 1 year loan

Bit worrying..

I just don’t know why we’d loan him out. I think it’s got to be a sell or stay outcome. We can’t replace someone like Mitro in the loan market. At least I don’t think we can….
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 21, 2021, 01:36:19 PM
Mitro took a holiday in Turkey so now every third rate Turkish rumour mill will be linking him to one of Besiktas / Gala / Fenerbahce all summer

He's back in training, is settled here, the manager he fell out with is gone and the club have been plastering photos of him over social media. Not going anywhere unless someone like Palace get interested
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Nick Bateman on July 21, 2021, 01:48:48 PM
ANDY CARROLL is on a free transfer now. Also, why did we allow all those loanees to leave? I am looking at Areola in particular, but many others Fulham can pay far higher wages than they can earn for their feeder club.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 21, 2021, 01:55:46 PM
ANDY CARROLL is on a free transfer now. Also, why did we allow all those loanees to leave? I am looking at Areola in particular, but many others Fulham can pay far higher wages than they can earn for their feeder club.

Areola reportedly off to west ham last I checked too.... Pain
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on July 21, 2021, 01:56:12 PM
ANDY CARROLL is on a free transfer now. Also, why did we allow all those loanees to leave? I am looking at Areola in particular, but many others Fulham can pay far higher wages than they can earn for their feeder club.

Andy Carroll's injury record is comparable to Mawson and Kongolo. On a pay as a you play deal, it could be interesting, but otherwise no. The loanees are all looking for top flight football, perhaps with the exception of Maja. If we could get him, I reckon Lookman could do some damage in this division though.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 21, 2021, 02:00:23 PM
Mitro took a holiday in Turkey so now every third rate Turkish rumour mill will be linking him to one of Besiktas / Gala / Fenerbahce all summer

He's back in training, is settled here, the manager he fell out with is gone and the club have been plastering photos of him over social media. Not going anywhere unless someone like Palace get interested
Is he now settled, do we know that for sure. What worries me was the rumours he put in a transfer request at the start of last season and in December (just rumours that were on the internet, probably not true but who knows) and if he did has that request been withdrawn as seen no rumours anywhere about that. Only rumours other than the transfer request I have seen was linking him to a Turkish club, but as you say he went on holiday there.

One thing is for sure we need him firing and committed with no requests hanging around or anything like that, or we need to off load and adequately replace him.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 21, 2021, 02:41:08 PM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 21, 2021, 02:51:53 PM
No way should we loan Mitro out. If he wants to go, then sell him for no less than £25m. However, we should try our best to keep him.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 21, 2021, 02:58:12 PM
The Blue Poo are after Betts as 3rd choice GK. He would have been better to sign a new contract with us & fight it out with Rodak for 1st choice.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: MickTheBeard on July 21, 2021, 03:23:29 PM
Look man started well then he was hopeless,he would do us a lot of damage. Bets would get better money with the filth as 3rd goalkeeper ,we offered a lot less than his original contract to be number 2 behind Rodak .
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 21, 2021, 04:04:42 PM
Look man started well then he was hopeless,he would do us a lot of damage. Bets would get better money with the filth as 3rd goalkeeper ,we offered a lot less than his original contract to be number 2 behind Rodak .

Betts wanted game time. He might get it with their U 23´s as an over age player. It´s not all about money. Professional pride has to come into the equation.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sunburywhite on July 21, 2021, 04:15:42 PM
Look man started well then he was hopeless,he would do us a lot of damage. Bets would get better money with the filth as 3rd goalkeeper ,we offered a lot less than his original contract to be number 2 behind Rodak .

Betts wanted game time. He might get it with their U 23´s as an over age player. It´s not all about money. Professional pride has to come into the equation.

I would be the same if I was him

Not everyone wants to be a bench warmer
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 21, 2021, 04:18:09 PM
Look man started well then he was hopeless,he would do us a lot of damage. Bets would get better money with the filth as 3rd goalkeeper ,we offered a lot less than his original contract to be number 2 behind Rodak .

Betts wanted game time. He might get it with their U 23´s as an over age player. It´s not all about money. Professional pride has to come into the equation.

Think of it this way. What is more exciting; 2nd GK in the Championship or third GK in a club that is hoping to win european titles?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 21, 2021, 04:37:42 PM
Swansea journalist just tweeted saying Grimes to Fulham is almost done….Swansea fans seem to think it’s happening too…make of that what you will
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 21, 2021, 04:59:39 PM
Swansea journalist just tweeted saying Grimes to Fulham is almost done….Swansea fans seem to think it’s happening too…make of that what you will

Would suggest a Seri sale or loan
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 21, 2021, 05:04:33 PM
Swansea journalist just tweeted saying Grimes to Fulham is almost done….Swansea fans seem to think it’s happening too…make of that what you will

Would suggest a Seri sale or loan

No more likely suggesting Stef Jo is off to QPR if true
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 21, 2021, 05:07:00 PM
Just seen this from TurkishFootballNews on twitter (no idea how credible that is):

#Fenerbahce has started loan negotiations with #Fulham player #AlexandrMitrovic. Fulham requests 4 million euro for 1 year loan

Bit worrying..
Hopefully they any his salary as well if this is true or if it comes to fruition
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 21, 2021, 05:21:14 PM
Mitro took a holiday in Turkey so now every third rate Turkish rumour mill will be linking him to one of Besiktas / Gala / Fenerbahce all summer

He's back in training, is settled here, the manager he fell out with is gone and the club have been plastering photos of him over social media. Not going anywhere unless someone like Palace get interested
Is he now settled, do we know that for sure. What worries me was the rumours he put in a transfer request at the start of last season and in December (just rumours that were on the internet, probably not true but who knows) and if he did has that request been withdrawn as seen no rumours anywhere about that. Only rumours other than the transfer request I have seen was linking him to a Turkish club, but as you say he went on holiday there.

One thing is for sure we need him firing and committed with no requests hanging around or anything like that, or we need to off load and adequately replace him.

In fairness I was using "settled" in the broad sense that he's been living here with his family for several years now. Wouldn't rule out him fancying a move still but the Turkish stories just wreak of BS IMO. They coincide with him going on holiday there, say we were close to agreeing a loan fee which I find hard to believe when the PR team were making a big deal of him coming back to training, and if he's genuinely unhappy despite the managerial change (ie he just doesn't like Fulham anymore) then a loan (ie temporary deal) doesn't really seem like a good solution for any party.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: cmg on July 21, 2021, 05:30:10 PM
ANDY CARROLL is on a free transfer now.

Andy Carroll! I'm glad people have not lost their sense of humour on here.
A 32 year old violent drunk with the body of a 45 year old and an injury record that sounds like the report on a Jumbo jet crash. One time reasonable striker who has, unfortunately for a striker, forgotten how to score goals.
On a free, but the bill for a new treatment table plus the bail money would be astronomical.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on July 21, 2021, 05:31:26 PM
ANDY CARROLL is on a free transfer now.

Andy Carroll! I'm glad people have not lost their sense of humour on here.
A 32 year old violent drunk with the body of a 45 year old and an injury record that sounds like the report on a Jumbo jet crash. One time reasonable striker who has, unfortunately for a striker, forgotten how to score goals.
On a free, but the bill for a new treatment table plus the bail money would be astronomical.


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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on July 21, 2021, 06:07:51 PM
Swansea journalist just tweeted saying Grimes to Fulham is almost done….Swansea fans seem to think it’s happening too…make of that what you will

I'm no expert on Grimes but from a few minutes of Youtube he seems like Tom Cairney, but with less pace (!) and less of a goal threat. Very one footed, but stylish and a penchant for attempting Paul Scholes type passes.  I don't really see where he fits in unless the club are banking on Cairney being on the treatment table regularly (not a bad bet). He doesn't strike me as like for like with SJ as he seems to player deeper, less box to box. Obviously we have lost KMac and perhaps expect to lose Seri and Frank so there may be a case for him providing decent first 11 competition in central midfield. Anyhow, I would not have thought it was the area on the pitch we would be recruiting first.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 21, 2021, 06:12:15 PM
Mitro took a holiday in Turkey so now every third rate Turkish rumour mill will be linking him to one of Besiktas / Gala / Fenerbahce all summer

He's back in training, is settled here, the manager he fell out with is gone and the club have been plastering photos of him over social media. Not going anywhere unless someone like Palace get interested
Is he now settled, do we know that for sure. What worries me was the rumours he put in a transfer request at the start of last season and in December (just rumours that were on the internet, probably not true but who knows) and if he did has that request been withdrawn as seen no rumours anywhere about that. Only rumours other than the transfer request I have seen was linking him to a Turkish club, but as you say he went on holiday there.

One thing is for sure we need him firing and committed with no requests hanging around or anything like that, or we need to off load and adequately replace him.

In fairness I was using "settled" in the broad sense that he's been living here with his family for several years now. Wouldn't rule out him fancying a move still but the Turkish stories just wreak of BS IMO. They coincide with him going on holiday there, say we were close to agreeing a loan fee which I find hard to believe when the PR team were making a big deal of him coming back to training, and if he's genuinely unhappy despite the managerial change (ie he just doesn't like Fulham anymore) then a loan (ie temporary deal) doesn't really seem like a good solution for any party.
I agree with you 100%

We would also promote how happy he is to increase the price as getting a happy player costs more, but a good agent would always be able to beat that down a little
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 21, 2021, 06:15:20 PM
Swansea journalist just tweeted saying Grimes to Fulham is almost done….Swansea fans seem to think it’s happening too…make of that what you will

I'm no expert on Grimes but from a few minutes of Youtube he seems like Tom Cairney, but with less pace (!) and less of a goal threat. Very one footed, but stylish and a penchant for attempting Paul Scholes type passes.  I don't really see where he fits in unless the club are banking on Cairney being on the treatment table regularly (not a bad bet). He doesn't strike me as like for like with SJ as he seems to player deeper, less box to box. Obviously we have lost KMac and perhaps expect to lose Seri and Frank so there may be a case for him providing decent first 11 competition in central midfield. Anyhow, I would not have thought it was the area on the pitch we would be recruiting first.

Grimes is more of a defensive/deeper midfielder
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 21, 2021, 06:42:43 PM
Swansea journalist just tweeted saying Grimes to Fulham is almost done….Swansea fans seem to think it’s happening too…make of that what you will

I'm no expert on Grimes but from a few minutes of Youtube he seems like Tom Cairney, but with less pace (!) and less of a goal threat. Very one footed, but stylish and a penchant for attempting Paul Scholes type passes.  I don't really see where he fits in unless the club are banking on Cairney being on the treatment table regularly (not a bad bet). He doesn't strike me as like for like with SJ as he seems to player deeper, less box to box. Obviously we have lost KMac and perhaps expect to lose Seri and Frank so there may be a case for him providing decent first 11 competition in central midfield. Anyhow, I would not have thought it was the area on the pitch we would be recruiting first.

Grimes is more of a defensive/deeper midfielder

He looks alot like Oliver Norwood to me, would that be fair?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 21, 2021, 07:06:05 PM
Look man started well then he was hopeless,he would do us a lot of damage. Bets would get better money with the filth as 3rd goalkeeper ,we offered a lot less than his original contract to be number 2 behind Rodak .

Betts wanted game time. He might get it with their U 23´s as an over age player. It´s not all about money. Professional pride has to come into the equation.

Think of it this way. What is more exciting; 2nd GK in the Championship or third GK in a club that is hoping to win european titles?
Not just hoping to win  - current Champions League holders!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FFC1987 on July 21, 2021, 07:11:47 PM
If Grimes comes in, does that mean Reed is out?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 21, 2021, 07:15:32 PM
Swansea journalist just tweeted saying Grimes to Fulham is almost done….Swansea fans seem to think it’s happening too…make of that what you will

I'm no expert on Grimes but from a few minutes of Youtube he seems like Tom Cairney, but with less pace (!) and less of a goal threat. Very one footed, but stylish and a penchant for attempting Paul Scholes type passes.  I don't really see where he fits in unless the club are banking on Cairney being on the treatment table regularly (not a bad bet). He doesn't strike me as like for like with SJ as he seems to player deeper, less box to box. Obviously we have lost KMac and perhaps expect to lose Seri and Frank so there may be a case for him providing decent first 11 competition in central midfield. Anyhow, I would not have thought it was the area on the pitch we would be recruiting first.

Grimes is more of a defensive/deeper midfielder

He looks alot like Oliver Norwood to me, would that be fair?

Yes I would agree
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 21, 2021, 07:16:00 PM
If Grimes comes in, does that mean Reed is out?

Highly doubt it, no one will pay 20 mill+ for Reed
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 21, 2021, 07:34:15 PM
If Grimes comes in, does that mean Reed is out?

Highly doubt it, no one will pay 20 mill+ for Reed
Personally dont think we would get that much if he were for sale which i dont think he is
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 21, 2021, 07:34:32 PM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Is this inside info?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Hugh Gentry on July 21, 2021, 07:53:18 PM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Is this inside info?
Please, let's not start this again!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: IloveFFC on July 21, 2021, 08:14:33 PM
Swansea journalist just tweeted saying Grimes to Fulham is almost done….Swansea fans seem to think it’s happening too…make of that what you will
Who is the journalist?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 21, 2021, 08:22:34 PM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Is this inside info?
Please, let's not start this again!
I wasnt i was asking as i was interested and if you look back i supported him and said at the time sometimes things go awry.

So just curious, Jesus
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 21, 2021, 08:29:24 PM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Is this inside info?
Please, let's not start this again!
I wasnt i was asking as i was interested and if you look back i supported him and said at the time sometimes things go awry.

So just curious, Jesus

Yes, obviously I’ll let you judge it for yourself but I would be surprised if Mitro was to go. Also Stef Jo will more than likely be off to QPR and Matt Grimes more than likely to come in. After what happened last time, I won’t say for certain it’s definitely going to happen, but that’s the info I’ve been told.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 21, 2021, 08:33:53 PM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Is this inside info?
Please, let's not start this again!
I wasnt i was asking as i was interested and if you look back i supported him and said at the time sometimes things go awry.

So just curious, Jesus

Yes, obviously I’ll let you judge it for yourself but I would be surprised if Mitro was to go. Also Stef Jo will more than likely be off to QPR and Matt Grimes more than likely to come in. After what happened last time, I won’t say for certain it’s definitely going to happen, but that’s the info I’ve been told.
Cheers WSW. Does your source know if the rumoured request to leave form Mitro has been rescinded?

My own personal opinion is that he wont go and he will see how things go with Silva
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 21, 2021, 08:36:16 PM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Is this inside info?
Please, let's not start this again!
I wasnt i was asking as i was interested and if you look back i supported him and said at the time sometimes things go awry.

So just curious, Jesus

Yes, obviously I’ll let you judge it for yourself but I would be surprised if Mitro was to go. Also Stef Jo will more than likely be off to QPR and Matt Grimes more than likely to come in. After what happened last time, I won’t say for certain it’s definitely going to happen, but that’s the info I’ve been told.
Cheers WSW. Does your source know if the rumoured request to leave form Mitro has been rescinded?

My own personal opinion is that he wont go and he will see how things go with Silva

The last I heard Mitro had had positive talks with Silva and is likely to stay now. Also If he was to go Fulham wanted his wages paid in full plus a 4 million loan fee which won’t happen. My mate said he’d be surprised if Mitro went anywhere and is open to staying after speaking to Silva
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 21, 2021, 09:10:19 PM
ANDY CARROLL is on a free transfer now.

Andy Carroll! I'm glad people have not lost their sense of humour on here.
A 32 year old violent drunk with the body of a 45 year old and an injury record that sounds like the report on a Jumbo jet crash. One time reasonable striker who has, unfortunately for a striker, forgotten how to score goals.
On a free, but the bill for a new treatment table plus the bail money would be astronomical.


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Wow, that is all a bit strong but it is hard to remember when last Carol had a good season.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sunburywhite on July 21, 2021, 10:12:33 PM
ANDY CARROLL is on a free transfer now.



Andy Carroll! I'm glad people have not lost their sense of humour on here.
A 32 year old violent drunk with the body of a 45 year old and an injury record that sounds like the report on a Jumbo jet crash. One time reasonable striker who has, unfortunately for a striker, forgotten how to score goals.
On a free, but the bill for a new treatment table plus the bail money would be astronomical.


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Wow, that is all a bit strong but it is hard to remember when last Carol had a good season.

The last time Carol came good was Christmas
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 21, 2021, 10:49:56 PM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Is this inside info?
Please, let's not start this again!
I wasnt i was asking as i was interested and if you look back i supported him and said at the time sometimes things go awry.

So just curious, Jesus

Yes, obviously I’ll let you judge it for yourself but I would be surprised if Mitro was to go. Also Stef Jo will more than likely be off to QPR and Matt Grimes more than likely to come in. After what happened last time, I won’t say for certain it’s definitely going to happen, but that’s the info I’ve been told.
Cheers WSW. Does your source know if the rumoured request to leave form Mitro has been rescinded?

My own personal opinion is that he wont go and he will see how things go with Silva

The last I heard Mitro had had positive talks with Silva and is likely to stay now. Also If he was to go Fulham wanted his wages paid in full plus a 4 million loan fee which won’t happen. My mate said he’d be surprised if Mitro went anywhere and is open to staying after speaking to Silva
Any truth re Harry Wilson WSW?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 21, 2021, 10:57:46 PM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Is this inside info?
Please, let's not start this again!
I wasnt i was asking as i was interested and if you look back i supported him and said at the time sometimes things go awry.

So just curious, Jesus

Yes, obviously I’ll let you judge it for yourself but I would be surprised if Mitro was to go. Also Stef Jo will more than likely be off to QPR and Matt Grimes more than likely to come in. After what happened last time, I won’t say for certain it’s definitely going to happen, but that’s the info I’ve been told.
Cheers WSW. Does your source know if the rumoured request to leave form Mitro has been rescinded?

My own personal opinion is that he wont go and he will see how things go with Silva

The last I heard Mitro had had positive talks with Silva and is likely to stay now. Also If he was to go Fulham wanted his wages paid in full plus a 4 million loan fee which won’t happen. My mate said he’d be surprised if Mitro went anywhere and is open to staying after speaking to Silva
Any truth re Harry Wilson WSW?

Yes, was told that was a goer. However will be expensive. Won’t be full 15 mill up front but will be a significant chunk of that upfront with the rest paid over 24 months. If he does come in, expect a big money departure. Probably Zambo. Wilson deal still has a lot of work to be done, but the club are hearing positive murmurings from Liverpool regarding the payment plan on offer. Fulham will make a formal offer once they have agreed how it will be paid etc.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on July 22, 2021, 05:04:58 AM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Is this inside info?
Please, let's not start this again!
I wasnt i was asking as i was interested and if you look back i supported him and said at the time sometimes things go awry.

So just curious, Jesus

Yes, obviously I’ll let you judge it for yourself but I would be surprised if Mitro was to go. Also Stef Jo will more than likely be off to QPR and Matt Grimes more than likely to come in. After what happened last time, I won’t say for certain it’s definitely going to happen, but that’s the info I’ve been told.
Cheers WSW. Does your source know if the rumoured request to leave form Mitro has been rescinded?

My own personal opinion is that he wont go and he will see how things go with Silva

The last I heard Mitro had had positive talks with Silva and is likely to stay now. Also If he was to go Fulham wanted his wages paid in full plus a 4 million loan fee which won’t happen. My mate said he’d be surprised if Mitro went anywhere and is open to staying after speaking to Silva
Any truth re Harry Wilson WSW?

Yes, was told that was a goer. However will be expensive. Won’t be full 15 mill up front but will be a significant chunk of that upfront with the rest paid over 24 months. If he does come in, expect a big money departure. Probably Zambo. Wilson deal still has a lot of work to be done, but the club are hearing positive murmurings from Liverpool regarding the payment plan on offer. Fulham will make a formal offer once they have agreed how it will be paid etc.
C'mon WSW you can't still be peddling the notion that you are ITK after the managerial appointment surely ?
I'll tell you what, have a chat with your sources today and let us all know where Boa Morte is and when the next friendly is and who it's against,  that should be easy 🤔
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 07:09:05 AM
I’ve been told Mitro is going knowhere. He has had good talks with Silva and is willing to stay currently
Is this inside info?
Please, let's not start this again!
I wasnt i was asking as i was interested and if you look back i supported him and said at the time sometimes things go awry.

So just curious, Jesus

Yes, obviously I’ll let you judge it for yourself but I would be surprised if Mitro was to go. Also Stef Jo will more than likely be off to QPR and Matt Grimes more than likely to come in. After what happened last time, I won’t say for certain it’s definitely going to happen, but that’s the info I’ve been told.
Cheers WSW. Does your source know if the rumoured request to leave form Mitro has been rescinded?

My own personal opinion is that he wont go and he will see how things go with Silva

The last I heard Mitro had had positive talks with Silva and is likely to stay now. Also If he was to go Fulham wanted his wages paid in full plus a 4 million loan fee which won’t happen. My mate said he’d be surprised if Mitro went anywhere and is open to staying after speaking to Silva
Any truth re Harry Wilson WSW?

Yes, was told that was a goer. However will be expensive. Won’t be full 15 mill up front but will be a significant chunk of that upfront with the rest paid over 24 months. If he does come in, expect a big money departure. Probably Zambo. Wilson deal still has a lot of work to be done, but the club are hearing positive murmurings from Liverpool regarding the payment plan on offer. Fulham will make a formal offer once they have agreed how it will be paid etc.
C'mon WSW you can't still be peddling the notion that you are ITK after the managerial appointment surely ?
I'll tell you what, have a chat with your sources today and let us all know where Boa Morte is and when the next friendly is and who it's against,  that should be easy 🤔

I’m passing on the information I’m given. It’s down to you to make if it what you will. I’m not claiming to be all knowing. Btw our next friendly is Southampton on Saturday 😉 as for Boa. I have no idea where he js
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: spikey norman on July 22, 2021, 09:40:13 AM
Bournemouth interested in Michael Hector
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 22, 2021, 09:47:57 AM
Bournemouth interested in Michael Hector

Well I am certainly not having that after the way he was frozen out by Parker last year. Next we'll be hearing that Parker wants to take Mitrovic over there.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 09:56:07 AM
Bournemouth interested in Michael Hector

Well I am certainly not having that after the way he was frozen out by Parker last year. Next we'll be hearing that Parker wants to take Mitrovic over there.

Yeah I don’t believe it. Either that or Parker really is delusional and thinks everyone loves him
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 22, 2021, 10:00:11 AM
Between now and the window deadline the journos will be selecting about two Fulham players a week to feed into the rumour mill as possible Bournmouth signings.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 22, 2021, 12:09:30 PM
Between now and the window deadline the journos will be selecting about two Fulham players a week to feed into the rumour mill as possible Bournmouth signings.

This is the classic way clubs have of tapping up players by giving certain journos a bung to start spreading these stories. It unsettles the players  whose heads are easily turned.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 22, 2021, 01:11:41 PM
Between now and the window deadline the journos will be selecting about two Fulham players a week to feed into the rumour mill as possible Bournmouth signings.

This is the classic way clubs have of tapping up players by giving certain journos a bung to start spreading these stories. It unsettles the players  whose heads are easily turned.
Would agree normally, but Bournemouth! Surely not a head Turner?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 01:17:59 PM
Between now and the window deadline the journos will be selecting about two Fulham players a week to feed into the rumour mill as possible Bournmouth signings.

This is the classic way clubs have of tapping up players by giving certain journos a bung to start spreading these stories. It unsettles the players  whose heads are easily turned.
Would agree normally, but Bournemouth! Surely not a head Turner?

I will be amazed if he goes to Bournemouth. He fell out with Scott Parker last season after he froze him out, so I would be amazed
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on July 22, 2021, 01:18:42 PM
Between now and the window deadline the journos will be selecting about two Fulham players a week to feed into the rumour mill as possible Bournmouth signings.

This is the classic way clubs have of tapping up players by giving certain journos a bung to start spreading these stories. It unsettles the players  whose heads are easily turned.
Would agree normally, but Bournemouth! Surely not a head Turner?

Particularly not Bournemouth because SP will have those players phone numbers etc and can call them directly but yes it's a familiar route to destabilising club/players...friendly journo gets odd scoop in return for writing copy like this
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Cookie6262 on July 22, 2021, 01:39:32 PM
Not totally unbelievable…. We have a to many centre half’s ( Hector, Kongolo, Tosin, Ream, Mawson) Parker knows Hector and played in a promotion team under Parker.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 22, 2021, 01:54:04 PM
Not totally unbelievable…. We have a to many centre half’s ( Hector, Kongolo, Tosin, Ream, Mawson) Parker knows Hector and played in a promotion team under Parker.

And he, like Mawson also doesn't like Parker so undoubtedly a case of lazy journalism. They probably can't afford him either so bit of a non-starter because we're not going to sell one of our better CB's to a rival are we?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 02:04:21 PM
Not totally unbelievable…. We have a to many centre half’s ( Hector, Kongolo, Tosin, Ream, Mawson) Parker knows Hector and played in a promotion team under Parker.

And he, like Mawson also doesn't like Parker so undoubtedly a case of lazy journalism. They probably can't afford him either so bit of a non-starter because we're not going to sell one of our better CB's to a rival are we?

Exactly, we paid 8 mill for him. I can’t see us letting him for any less than 6. Especially to a supposed promotion rival
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Count Flapula on July 22, 2021, 02:58:13 PM
And he, like Mawson also doesn't like Parker so undoubtedly a case of lazy journalism.

Where has it been said that Hector doesn't like Parker? Genuinely asking as haven't seen anything myself. Is this a Twitter rumour?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 22, 2021, 03:21:42 PM
Bournemouth interested in Michael Hector

Well I am certainly not having that after the way he was frozen out by Parker last year. Next we'll be hearing that Parker wants to take Mitrovic over there.
Agree he was frozen out but would anyone have picked him ahead of Anderson and Tosin?

If he fell out with Parker then there cant be any truth in it.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Cookie6262 on July 22, 2021, 03:22:27 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 22, 2021, 03:29:16 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 22, 2021, 03:47:54 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector

Agreed - Hector is probably starter/sub choice based on Kongolo & Mawson's recent injury records. If by some miracle Mawson and Kongolo stay fit then they're probably the left sided CB's sorted and he's competing with Tosin for the right CB role with Ream and MLM behind him in overall pecking order. If we have injury issues then he has to start at RCB with Tosin at LCB because at this level that's a very good pairing and we're blessed with having two cb's that could be better than him, albeit very infrequently due to their injury pattern. Would rather get rid of Ream and MLM before we consider Hector because he's objectively better than both of them and also a right sided CB which is oddly something we don't have very many of
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 22, 2021, 03:48:13 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

We allegedly paid £8 million for him, think we'd want to recuperate the same if we sold him. Highly doubt this story is true though.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RaySmith on July 22, 2021, 03:50:11 PM
And he, like Mawson also doesn't like Parker so undoubtedly a case of lazy journalism.

Where has it been said that Hector doesn't like Parker? Genuinely asking as haven't seen anything myself. Is this a Twitter rumour?

He was dropped after we signed  Andersen and Tosin.

Hector and Ream were our  cb's at the start of the season, and there were high expectations of Hector, after his great performanes in helping us  gain promotion, but he looked to be suffering a loss of confidence, and  it was speculated that  there was some underlying psychological problem.

Don't know where the story that he fell out with Parker came from, or if it's true.
People on here may know more about this.

Mangers have to drop players  though, as part of their job, even if fans don't agree, but doesn't mean it's personal though.

Surely, a manager wants the   best team   possible  playing, to get results, whether he likes them as people or not?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 22, 2021, 04:21:12 PM
The stories about Parker falling out with certain individuals are rumours of course but I've heard too much about it from too many people, too consistently over too long a period, for it not to be true. It's also come from several posters I believe generally are quite close to what's going on, although I won't name them. Also with a couple like Mitrovic and Hector I'd say it's obvious - for them to be fit but not getting picked ahead of Cavaleiro and MLM respectively shows something is awry.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 04:28:04 PM
Fulham linked with Tom Trybull on loan from Norwich. Mike McGrath the Telegraph journalist reporting it and he’s normally pretty reliable. Sounds like Stef Jo and Zambo will be off of him and Grimes come in
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on July 22, 2021, 04:46:13 PM
The stories about Parker falling out with certain individuals are rumours of course but I've heard too much about it from too many people, too consistently over too long a period, for it not to be true. It's also come from several posters I believe generally are quite close to what's going on, although I won't name them. Also with a couple like Mitrovic and Hector I'd say it's obvious - for them to be fit but not getting picked ahead of Cavaleiro and MLM respectively shows something is awry.

The way our results went off the cliff after Liverpool away it seems like there were problems in the dressing room
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 22, 2021, 05:47:39 PM
The stories about Parker falling out with certain individuals are rumours of course but I've heard too much about it from too many people, too consistently over too long a period, for it not to be true. It's also come from several posters I believe generally are quite close to what's going on, although I won't name them. Also with a couple like Mitrovic and Hector I'd say it's obvious - for them to be fit but not getting picked ahead of Cavaleiro and MLM respectively shows something is awry.

The way our results went off the cliff after Liverpool away it seems like there were problems in the dressing room
2 points from 30! Bournemouth liked what they saw
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Caedal on July 22, 2021, 05:59:00 PM
Grimes and Wilson would be good signings. I was hoping we would be able to keep Frank, and even give Seri a chance under a proper manager, I doubt that’s going to happen though sadly.

The squad is incredibly strong regardless, and should easily get automatic unless there is a flood of outgoings. The league this season is very weak
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rusty shackleford on July 22, 2021, 06:20:28 PM
Frank is gonna play a few games for us look great then leave before the deadline. Like dembele the year he left
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: PaulJ123 on July 22, 2021, 07:12:42 PM
Trybull would be such an underwhelming signing!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 07:14:28 PM
Trybull would be such an underwhelming signing!

Agreed, although I don’t mind him as cover
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on July 22, 2021, 07:49:10 PM
Trybull would be such an underwhelming signing!

Agreed, although I don’t mind him as cover

I have no opinion on Trybull who I had never heard of before his name was mentioned on here. What I do know is that I will be disappointed if the club offload Anguissa who would boss the Championship.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 22, 2021, 08:10:22 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️
Yes, I'd sell him for way less than that as it's one more off the wage bill and a couple of million in our bank. If we go up he wouldn't feature for us anyway. We need to start building a prem ready side which only needs a bit of tweaking. Not a total overhaul again. We all know how that turns out.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 22, 2021, 08:14:25 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
No, I agree also. From the CB list, I would get rid of Hector, MLM, Odoi, Ream. None of these are good enough at prem level so why keep them. Keep Kongolo, Mawson and Tosin. I'd be bringing in a quality younger CB with potential on a loan to buy and I'd bring in an older experienced CB on a free or cheap like a Scott Dann type. Would also assess whether Opoku could feature next season as a squad option.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Fernhurst on July 22, 2021, 08:19:16 PM
Grimes and Wilson would be good signings. I was hoping we would be able to keep Frank, and even give Seri a chance under a proper manager, I doubt that’s going to happen though sadly.

The squad is incredibly strong regardless, and should easily get automatic unless there is a flood of outgoings. The league this season is very weak

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Would love to read the Headline “Fulham swoop and sign Wilson and Grimes”

No protaced negotiations just bish bash bosh —-sorted
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: dfwilson84 on July 22, 2021, 08:19:53 PM
Rodrigo Muniz on loan with an option all over Twitter. Quite random so maybe something in it. 20 year old Brazilian striker for flamingo. Looks a character and scored some amazing goals on his YouTube videos.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 22, 2021, 08:24:21 PM
Grimes and Wilson would be good signings. I was hoping we would be able to keep Frank, and even give Seri a chance under a proper manager, I doubt that’s going to happen though sadly.

The squad is incredibly strong regardless, and should easily get automatic unless there is a flood of outgoings. The league this season is very weak
I agree with Grimes and Wilson, but it's not a given that we will easily get automatic. There are other teams that could be equally confident - WBA look strong, Sheff U have Slav and will be strong. Bournemouth i hate to say it but should be up there. Cardiff, Middlesbrough and QPR will be no pushovers.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 22, 2021, 08:24:49 PM
Rodrigo Muniz on loan with an option all over Twitter. Quite random so maybe something in it. 20 year old Brazilian striker for flamingo. Looks a character and scored some amazing goals on his YouTube videos.

About time that someone that speaks portuguese was linked. Was starting to get worried.

Seems to have been linked with a bevy of teams this summer judging from how many "Welcome to" videos there are.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: PaulJ123 on July 22, 2021, 08:30:16 PM
Rodrigo Muniz on loan with an option all over Twitter. Quite random so maybe something in it. 20 year old Brazilian striker for flamingo. Looks a character and scored some amazing goals on his YouTube videos.

Knowing absolutely nothing about him, I am all for it.

A 20 year old Brazilian striker, TK really is playing Football Manager and I’m here for it.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Matt10 on July 22, 2021, 08:38:29 PM
Rodrigo Muniz on loan with an option all over Twitter. Quite random so maybe something in it. 20 year old Brazilian striker for flamingo. Looks a character and scored some amazing goals on his YouTube videos.

Knowing absolutely nothing about him, I am all for it.

A 20 year old Brazilian striker, TK really is playing Football Manager and I’m here for it.

That could be less TK and more Silva considering how he did with Richarlison at Watford.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 08:39:31 PM
Rodrigo Muniz on loan with an option all over Twitter. Quite random so maybe something in it. 20 year old Brazilian striker for flamingo. Looks a character and scored some amazing goals on his YouTube videos.

Knowing absolutely nothing about him, I am all for it.

A 20 year old Brazilian striker, TK really is playing Football Manager and I’m here for it.

To be fair Silva signed Rocharlison from Flamingo, so I fee this might have some legs in it. Seems to random not to have some truth to it. A South American fan replied to my teeet about him saying he’s the new Cavani which is positive.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: f321ffc on July 22, 2021, 08:40:49 PM
Translated from Twitter.

Fulham formalizes proposal by Rodrigo Muniz: €1 million (about R$6 million) for the loan + €9 million (about R$54 million) in the call option. Flamengo "collects" offers by the player and will analyze which one pleases the most. Al Nasr didn't give up.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 22, 2021, 08:43:33 PM
Translated from Twitter.

Fulham formalizes proposal by Rodrigo Muniz: €1 million (about R$6 million) for the loan + €9 million (about R$54 million) in the call option. Flamengo "collects" offers by the player and will analyze which one pleases the most. Al Nasr didn't give up.

20 year old Brazilian forward. Could get excited by that. But would he get a work permit?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 08:48:06 PM
Translated from Twitter.

Fulham formalizes proposal by Rodrigo Muniz: €1 million (about R$6 million) for the loan + €9 million (about R$54 million) in the call option. Flamengo "collects" offers by the player and will analyze which one pleases the most. Al Nasr didn't give up.

20 year old Brazilian forward. Could get excited by that. But would he get a work permit?

It’s easier to get work permits from South America now than it is in Europe. In the current climate, there is no way we would’ve got a work permit for the Abou Kamara deal. Apparently it’s easier to get work permits from South America now
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 22, 2021, 08:49:12 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
No, I agree also. From the CB list, I would get rid of Hector, MLM, Odoi, Ream. None of these are good enough at prem level so why keep them. Keep Kongolo, Mawson and Tosin. I'd be bringing in a quality younger CB with potential on a loan to buy and I'd bring in an older experienced CB on a free or cheap like a Scott Dann type. Would also assess whether Opoku could feature next season as a squad option.

You can’t go through a season with 3 senior centre backs (2 of whom haven’t played a full season in years so essentially leave us with 1.5 CB’s) for what is at least a 48 game season and then sign a young player and expect them to be there or there abouts for a team that’s in theory going to be challenging for top 2. Dann is dead money because he’s too old for the PL with no resale value so you may as well keep Hector who’s at a similar level and sell him next year once we’re up
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 22, 2021, 08:55:31 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
No, I agree also. From the CB list, I would get rid of Hector, MLM, Odoi, Ream. None of these are good enough at prem level so why keep them. Keep Kongolo, Mawson and Tosin. I'd be bringing in a quality younger CB with potential on a loan to buy and I'd bring in an older experienced CB on a free or cheap like a Scott Dann type. Would also assess whether Opoku could feature next season as a squad option.

You can’t go through a season with 3 senior centre backs (2 of whom haven’t played a full season in years so essentially leave us with 1.5 CB’s) for what is at least a 48 game season and then sign a young player and expect them to be there or there abouts for a team that’s in theory going to be challenging for top 2. Dann is dead money because he’s too old for the PL with no resale value so you may as well keep Hector who’s at a similar level and sell him next year once we’re up

Yep. And I'm no fan of Ream but even shipping him out only to pay all the costs of bringing Scott Dann in as a replacement makes no sense.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 09:15:28 PM
Hammy End just tweeted an article. The Brazilian striker Muniz is open to the move and has held positive discussions with Marco Silva. Sounds like this might be a goer!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 09:20:36 PM
https://youtu.be/TBowAkfaqRQ here’s a link to his best bits
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 22, 2021, 09:32:22 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
No, I agree also. From the CB list, I would get rid of Hector, MLM, Odoi, Ream. None of these are good enough at prem level so why keep them. Keep Kongolo, Mawson and Tosin. I'd be bringing in a quality younger CB with potential on a loan to buy and I'd bring in an older experienced CB on a free or cheap like a Scott Dann type. Would also assess whether Opoku could feature next season as a squad option.

You can’t go through a season with 3 senior centre backs (2 of whom haven’t played a full season in years so essentially leave us with 1.5 CB’s) for what is at least a 48 game season and then sign a young player and expect them to be there or there abouts for a team that’s in theory going to be challenging for top 2. Dann is dead money because he’s too old for the PL with no resale value so you may as well keep Hector who’s at a similar level and sell him next year once we’re up
it's a matter of opinion, and I was just stating mine. Dann is a free agent and has lots of prem experience. My first 2 CBs would be Tosin and Mawson. I'd have Dann, Kongolo and Opoku as back ups plus another loan to buy option from a top tier club. If we can get £5 or £6m for Hector then grab it. He played a handful of matches last season and was absolutely useless (e.g. Brentford and Burnley on cup games).
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 22, 2021, 09:34:51 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
No, I agree also. From the CB list, I would get rid of Hector, MLM, Odoi, Ream. None of these are good enough at prem level so why keep them. Keep Kongolo, Mawson and Tosin. I'd be bringing in a quality younger CB with potential on a loan to buy and I'd bring in an older experienced CB on a free or cheap like a Scott Dann type. Would also assess whether Opoku could feature next season as a squad option.

You can’t go through a season with 3 senior centre backs (2 of whom haven’t played a full season in years so essentially leave us with 1.5 CB’s) for what is at least a 48 game season and then sign a young player and expect them to be there or there abouts for a team that’s in theory going to be challenging for top 2. Dann is dead money because he’s too old for the PL with no resale value so you may as well keep Hector who’s at a similar level and sell him next year once we’re up

Yep. And I'm no fan of Ream but even shipping him out only to pay all the costs of bringing Scott Dann in as a replacement makes no sense.
Dann is a much better player and leader/organiser than Ream. He is a free agent also so it's not a matter of huge costs. But ok, I heard Ream has another year left, so let's keep him in reserve. I would ship out the others I mentioned though. I cannot believe I read somewhere that MLM was to have his contract extended. That would be really crazy. The guy is not up to it.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 09:48:09 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
No, I agree also. From the CB list, I would get rid of Hector, MLM, Odoi, Ream. None of these are good enough at prem level so why keep them. Keep Kongolo, Mawson and Tosin. I'd be bringing in a quality younger CB with potential on a loan to buy and I'd bring in an older experienced CB on a free or cheap like a Scott Dann type. Would also assess whether Opoku could feature next season as a squad option.

You can’t go through a season with 3 senior centre backs (2 of whom haven’t played a full season in years so essentially leave us with 1.5 CB’s) for what is at least a 48 game season and then sign a young player and expect them to be there or there abouts for a team that’s in theory going to be challenging for top 2. Dann is dead money because he’s too old for the PL with no resale value so you may as well keep Hector who’s at a similar level and sell him next year once we’re up

Yep. And I'm no fan of Ream but even shipping him out only to pay all the costs of bringing Scott Dann in as a replacement makes no sense.
Dann is a much better player and leader/organiser than Ream. He is a free agent also so it's not a matter of huge costs. But ok, I heard Ream has another year left, so let's keep him in reserve. I would ship out the others I mentioned though. I cannot believe I read somewhere that MLM was to have his contract extended. That would be really crazy. The guy is not up to it.
We exercised the additional year on his contract, this is a workaround for FFP. Means his amortisation costs drop as the total fee is done over the length of the contract so gives us an extra year
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 22, 2021, 09:50:49 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
No, I agree also. From the CB list, I would get rid of Hector, MLM, Odoi, Ream. None of these are good enough at prem level so why keep them. Keep Kongolo, Mawson and Tosin. I'd be bringing in a quality younger CB with potential on a loan to buy and I'd bring in an older experienced CB on a free or cheap like a Scott Dann type. Would also assess whether Opoku could feature next season as a squad option.

You can’t go through a season with 3 senior centre backs (2 of whom haven’t played a full season in years so essentially leave us with 1.5 CB’s) for what is at least a 48 game season and then sign a young player and expect them to be there or there abouts for a team that’s in theory going to be challenging for top 2. Dann is dead money because he’s too old for the PL with no resale value so you may as well keep Hector who’s at a similar level and sell him next year once we’re up

Yep. And I'm no fan of Ream but even shipping him out only to pay all the costs of bringing Scott Dann in as a replacement makes no sense.
Dann is a much better player and leader/organiser than Ream. He is a free agent also so it's not a matter of huge costs. But ok, I heard Ream has another year left, so let's keep him in reserve. I would ship out the others I mentioned though. I cannot believe I read somewhere that MLM was to have his contract extended. That would be really crazy. The guy is not up to it.
We exercised the additional year on his contract, this is a workaround for FFP. Means his amortisation costs drop as the total fee is done over the length of the contract so gives us an extra year
Ok, thanks for explaining. There must be a financial reason for extending, as footballing ability wise it makes zero sense.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 22, 2021, 09:53:43 PM
Hammy End just tweeted an article. The Brazilian striker Muniz is open to the move and has held positive discussions with Marco Silva. Sounds like this might be a goer!

But has someone explained to him about playing Stoke on a Tuesday evening mid February!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 22, 2021, 10:04:20 PM
Relying on Mawson and Kongola as centre backs for the season sounds a terrible risk unless we can draft in a powerful medicine man to ensure they are not injured at the same times.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 10:10:17 PM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
No, I agree also. From the CB list, I would get rid of Hector, MLM, Odoi, Ream. None of these are good enough at prem level so why keep them. Keep Kongolo, Mawson and Tosin. I'd be bringing in a quality younger CB with potential on a loan to buy and I'd bring in an older experienced CB on a free or cheap like a Scott Dann type. Would also assess whether Opoku could feature next season as a squad option.

You can’t go through a season with 3 senior centre backs (2 of whom haven’t played a full season in years so essentially leave us with 1.5 CB’s) for what is at least a 48 game season and then sign a young player and expect them to be there or there abouts for a team that’s in theory going to be challenging for top 2. Dann is dead money because he’s too old for the PL with no resale value so you may as well keep Hector who’s at a similar level and sell him next year once we’re up

Yep. And I'm no fan of Ream but even shipping him out only to pay all the costs of bringing Scott Dann in as a replacement makes no sense.
Dann is a much better player and leader/organiser than Ream. He is a free agent also so it's not a matter of huge costs. But ok, I heard Ream has another year left, so let's keep him in reserve. I would ship out the others I mentioned though. I cannot believe I read somewhere that MLM was to have his contract extended. That would be really crazy. The guy is not up to it.
We exercised the additional year on his contract, this is a workaround for FFP. Means his amortisation costs drop as the total fee is done over the length of the contract so gives us an extra year
Ok, thanks for explaining. There must be a financial reason for extending, as footballing ability wise it makes zero sense.

Yeah they were all extended for FFP reasons. It’s better to have them on the wage bill for another FFP wise, rather than let them go for free and therefore fail
FFP because of it
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 22, 2021, 10:11:03 PM
Relying on Mawson and Kongola as centre backs for the season sounds a terrible risk unless we can draft in a powerful medicine man to ensure they are not injured at the same times.
but there would be others in the squad at CB. I said I would have Tosin as first choice, and bring in Dann on a free, Opoku is a good young home grown prospect, and I'd take another on a loan to buy. I've also been convinced to keep Ream one more season as that is his contract length remaining. We also have MLM extended although Hilda the tea lady would have to be unfit for him to play.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 22, 2021, 10:13:27 PM
I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: MikeTheCubed on July 22, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Hammy End just tweeted an article. The Brazilian striker Muniz is open to the move and has held positive discussions with Marco Silva. Sounds like this might be a goer!

I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro

We could do with more aMunizition up front to go along with AK47.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 22, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Hammy End just tweeted an article. The Brazilian striker Muniz is open to the move and has held positive discussions with Marco Silva. Sounds like this might be a goer!

I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro

We could do with more aMunizition up front to go along with AK47.
Be great If he turns out like Richarlison Still think we need Mitro next season though.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 22, 2021, 10:37:33 PM
Hammy End just tweeted an article. The Brazilian striker Muniz is open to the move and has held positive discussions with Marco Silva. Sounds like this might be a goer!

I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro

We could do with more aMunizition up front to go along with AK47.
Be great If he turns out like Richarlison Still think we need Mitro next season though.

I will be absolutely amazed if Mitro was to go anywhere now. If he was going to go anywhere it would’ve been before he returned for pre-season
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: AJW48361 on July 22, 2021, 11:00:10 PM
Ream will play loads this season.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 22, 2021, 11:11:53 PM
Hammy End just tweeted an article. The Brazilian striker Muniz is open to the move and has held positive discussions with Marco Silva. Sounds like this might be a goer!

I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro

We could do with more aMunizition up front to go along with AK47.
Be great If he turns out like Richarlison Still think we need Mitro next season though.

I will be absolutely amazed if Mitro was to go anywhere now. If he was going to go anywhere it would’ve been before he returned for pre-season
I hope not mate
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: G_Gribby on July 23, 2021, 06:54:30 AM
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I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 23, 2021, 07:01:28 AM
I like the look of Muniz. Impressed with his aerial ability. Can he play wide?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on July 23, 2021, 08:14:07 AM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
No, I agree also. From the CB list, I would get rid of Hector, MLM, Odoi, Ream. None of these are good enough at prem level so why keep them. Keep Kongolo, Mawson and Tosin. I'd be bringing in a quality younger CB with potential on a loan to buy and I'd bring in an older experienced CB on a free or cheap like a Scott Dann type. Would also assess whether Opoku could feature next season as a squad option.

You can’t go through a season with 3 senior centre backs (2 of whom haven’t played a full season in years so essentially leave us with 1.5 CB’s) for what is at least a 48 game season and then sign a young player and expect them to be there or there abouts for a team that’s in theory going to be challenging for top 2. Dann is dead money because he’s too old for the PL with no resale value so you may as well keep Hector who’s at a similar level and sell him next year once we’re up

Yep. And I'm no fan of Ream but even shipping him out only to pay all the costs of bringing Scott Dann in as a replacement makes no sense.
Dann is a much better player and leader/organiser than Ream. He is a free agent also so it's not a matter of huge costs. But ok, I heard Ream has another year left, so let's keep him in reserve. I would ship out the others I mentioned though. I cannot believe I read somewhere that MLM was to have his contract extended. That would be really crazy. The guy is not up to it.
We exercised the additional year on his contract, this is a workaround for FFP. Means his amortisation costs drop as the total fee is done over the length of the contract so gives us an extra year
Ok, thanks for explaining. There must be a financial reason for extending, as footballing ability wise it makes zero sense.

Yeah they were all extended for FFP reasons. It’s better to have them on the wage bill for another FFP wise, rather than let them go for free and therefore fail
FFP because of it

This underscores the lunacy of FFP. Spend another £1m on a squad player's wages that cannot be justified from a business or football perspective in order to improve your books. I can only hope we have a year long loan deal lined up where his wages are fully covered.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 23, 2021, 08:29:28 AM
Gossip says Kane to Man City in a 160 mil deal with wages of 400k a week. How can they justify this. Sheer madness & how do they get away with FFP.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 23, 2021, 08:42:06 AM
Given financial fair play and our numerous centre half’s I would seriously consider £6 million for Hector from Bournemouth, maybe it’s just me 🤷‍♂️

i certainly hope it's just you because it would mean we'd actually be relying on kongolo, mawson or ream to play week in, week out. on reflection i'd probably say MLM is the most reliable option after tosin and hector
No, I agree also. From the CB list, I would get rid of Hector, MLM, Odoi, Ream. None of these are good enough at prem level so why keep them. Keep Kongolo, Mawson and Tosin. I'd be bringing in a quality younger CB with potential on a loan to buy and I'd bring in an older experienced CB on a free or cheap like a Scott Dann type. Would also assess whether Opoku could feature next season as a squad option.

You can’t go through a season with 3 senior centre backs (2 of whom haven’t played a full season in years so essentially leave us with 1.5 CB’s) for what is at least a 48 game season and then sign a young player and expect them to be there or there abouts for a team that’s in theory going to be challenging for top 2. Dann is dead money because he’s too old for the PL with no resale value so you may as well keep Hector who’s at a similar level and sell him next year once we’re up

Yep. And I'm no fan of Ream but even shipping him out only to pay all the costs of bringing Scott Dann in as a replacement makes no sense.
Dann is a much better player and leader/organiser than Ream. He is a free agent also so it's not a matter of huge costs. But ok, I heard Ream has another year left, so let's keep him in reserve. I would ship out the others I mentioned though. I cannot believe I read somewhere that MLM was to have his contract extended. That would be really crazy. The guy is not up to it.
We exercised the additional year on his contract, this is a workaround for FFP. Means his amortisation costs drop as the total fee is done over the length of the contract so gives us an extra year
Ok, thanks for explaining. There must be a financial reason for extending, as footballing ability wise it makes zero sense.

Yeah they were all extended for FFP reasons. It’s better to have them on the wage bill for another FFP wise, rather than let them go for free and therefore fail
FFP because of it

This underscores the lunacy of FFP. Spend another £1m on a squad player's wages that cannot be justified from a business or football perspective in order to improve your books. I can only hope we have a year long loan deal lined up where his wages are fully covered.

I doubt it, you’ll probably find they will sit here a few then some may head out towards the end of the window
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 23, 2021, 09:30:59 AM
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I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on July 23, 2021, 10:16:29 AM
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I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

And crosses slightly more accurate than Johnny Key's...
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 23, 2021, 10:29:06 AM
Quote
I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

Watching Muniz clips he scored the majority of his goals with his head!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 23, 2021, 10:29:37 AM
Think some people need to face the reality that we probably won't get more than a month or two out of Mawson, or more than a game or two out of Kongolo. I don't especially rate MLM but he's probably our 3rd or 4th choice CB, effectively, depending how generous you want to be to Ream.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FFC1987 on July 23, 2021, 10:54:59 AM
Think some people need to face the reality that we probably won't get more than a month or two out of Mawson, or more than a game or two out of Kongolo. I don't especially rate MLM but he's probably our 3rd or 4th choice CB, effectively, depending how generous you want to be to Ream.

That's not an absolute certainty though. If I was a betting man, based on history, sure, but we're not really privy to what the medical staff know. Kongolo could easily come back and be injury free on the back of some horrible bad luck.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 23, 2021, 10:55:45 AM
Lookman to palace being rumoured
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 23, 2021, 11:29:09 AM
Lookman to palace being rumoured
The penalty king
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 23, 2021, 12:07:55 PM
Quote
I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

Watching Muniz clips he scored the majority of his goals with his head!
Right then, we just need the wide men who can deliver good crosses, can't remember the last time we saw one of them in action at the Cottage.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FFC NY on July 23, 2021, 12:20:10 PM
and we can speed up the announcement by using fully imMUNIZed as the headline
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on July 23, 2021, 12:53:02 PM
Quote
I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

Watching Muniz clips he scored the majority of his goals with his head!
Right then, we just need the wide men who can deliver good crosses, can't remember the last time we saw one of them in action at the Cottage.

Bryan and Tete both deliver good crosses. The wingers, not so much.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 23, 2021, 12:53:26 PM
Quote
I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

Watching Muniz clips he scored the majority of his goals with his head!
Right then, we just need the wide men who can deliver good crosses, can't remember the last time we saw one of them in action at the Cottage.

Get Harry Wilson in!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 23, 2021, 12:58:23 PM
I think we may see a different Cavaliero this season. He needs unshackling and one would hope that Silva will do just that.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: IloveFFC on July 23, 2021, 01:10:32 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sean_Gallagher9/status/1418535027663593475
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 23, 2021, 01:15:12 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sean_Gallagher9/status/1418535027663593475

I've seen that elsewhere this morning too.  It's a shame because I still think he has something to offer us, but we've dicked the guy about so much that it's not surprising.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: IloveFFC on July 23, 2021, 01:18:22 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sean_Gallagher9/status/1418535027663593475

I've seen that elsewhere this morning too.  It's a shame because I still think he has something to offer us, but we've dicked the guy about so much that it's not surprising.
maybe this means that Seri will stay
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on July 23, 2021, 01:19:43 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sean_Gallagher9/status/1418535027663593475

Looking through the comments it's clear he's well loved there and he deserves that. With a consistent run of games he is quality.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 23, 2021, 01:20:15 PM
Maybe. Or we're just making room for a newcomer. 

Have to trust that the management have a plan and know what they are doing I suppose!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on July 23, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
I'll tell you what, I won't look forward to facing him with his scything tackles. Season-ending injury to Cairney on the cards.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jem on July 23, 2021, 02:13:09 PM
Quote
I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

Watching Muniz clips he scored the majority of his goals with his head!
Right then, we just need the wide men who can deliver good crosses, can't remember the last time we saw one of them in action at the Cottage.
Les Barrett.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 23, 2021, 02:28:34 PM
Maybe. Or we're just making room for a newcomer. 

Have to trust that the management have a plan and know what they are doing I suppose!

I reckon Matt Grimes
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Chutney on July 23, 2021, 02:59:13 PM
Maybe. Or we're just making room for a newcomer. 

Have to trust that the management have a plan and know what they are doing I suppose!

I reckon Matt Grimes

This would be a weird one, Grimes is 26 and won't get a whole lot better,  he's certainly not ever going to be prem standard si what would be the point? Our transfers team are so so bad, no long term vision at all.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 23, 2021, 03:11:01 PM
Maybe. Or we're just making room for a newcomer. 

Have to trust that the management have a plan and know what they are doing I suppose!

I reckon Matt Grimes

This would be a weird one, Grimes is 26 and won't get a whole lot better,  he's certainly not ever going to be prem standard si what would be the point? Our transfers team are so so bad, no long term vision at all.

Defensive midfielders peak around about 30 and some even later so he's nowhere near his best yet, and he's definitely got the ability to play in the Premier League
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Twig on July 23, 2021, 04:43:17 PM
Maybe. Or we're just making room for a newcomer. 

Have to trust that the management have a plan and know what they are doing I suppose!

I reckon Matt Grimes

This would be a weird one, Grimes is 26 and won't get a whole lot better,  he's certainly not ever going to be prem standard si what would be the point? Our transfers team are so so bad, no long term vision at all.

Defensive midfielders peak around about 30 and some even later so he's nowhere near his best yet, and he's definitely got the ability to play in the Premier League

I’m a bit confused. Surely Reed is our starting defensive mid? If we are replacing Stef Jo don’t we need more of a box to box or attacking type?   I don’t know Grimes well enough; if he’s the former he may well improve but do we need him, if he’s the latter then he is unlikely to continue improving as the athletic demands tend to take their toll earlier. Perhaps I haven’t understood the rumoured Grimes transfer properly though?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 23, 2021, 04:53:36 PM
Maybe. Or we're just making room for a newcomer. 

Have to trust that the management have a plan and know what they are doing I suppose!

I reckon Matt Grimes

This would be a weird one, Grimes is 26 and won't get a whole lot better,  he's certainly not ever going to be prem standard si what would be the point? Our transfers team are so so bad, no long term vision at all.

Defensive midfielders peak around about 30 and some even later so he's nowhere near his best yet, and he's definitely got the ability to play in the Premier League

I’m a bit confused. Surely Reed is our starting defensive mid? If we are replacing K Mac don’t we need more of a box to box type?   I don’t know Grimes well enough; if he’s the former he may well improve but do we need him, if he’s the latter then he is unlikely to continue improving as the athletic demands tend to take their toll earlier. Perhaps I haven’t understood the rumoured Grimes transfer properly though?

He's a deep lying midfielder - Reed is more box to box. He sits deep and pulls the strings as he's got good passing range so should hopefully add some more creativity to our midfield. Silva plays 4-3-3 so you'd most likely have Grimes and Reed in a 2 man pivot behind TC
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 23, 2021, 05:01:28 PM
I would expect Harry Wilson to join us now, we have agreed a deal with Liverpool and he has been left out of the Liverpool squad for a friendly today. Matt Grimes has an offer from us and Bournemouth. We are his preferred destination, but should be more on that on the next 48 hours.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Porthogs FC on July 23, 2021, 05:03:31 PM
Maybe. Or we're just making room for a newcomer. 

Have to trust that the management have a plan and know what they are doing I suppose!

I reckon Matt Grimes

This would be a weird one, Grimes is 26 and won't get a whole lot better,  he's certainly not ever going to be prem standard si what would be the point? Our transfers team are so so bad, no long term vision at all.

Defensive midfielders peak around about 30 and some even later so he's nowhere near his best yet, and he's definitely got the ability to play in the Premier League

I’m a bit confused. Surely Reed is our starting defensive mid? If we are replacing K Mac don’t we need more of a box to box type?   I don’t know Grimes well enough; if he’s the former he may well improve but do we need him, if he’s the latter then he is unlikely to continue improving as the athletic demands tend to take their toll earlier. Perhaps I haven’t understood the rumoured Grimes transfer properly though?

He's a deep lying midfielder - Reed is more box to box. He sits deep and pulls the strings as he's got good passing range so should hopefully add some more creativity to our midfield. Silva plays 4-3-3 so you'd most likely have Grimes and Reed in a 2 man pivot behind TC

My thoughts exactly - if all of Anguissa, Seri and Stef Jo are off, Trybull rumour makes sense as well.midfield of Reed, Trybull, Grimes, Onomah, Cairney, ??
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 23, 2021, 05:10:08 PM
I would expect Harry Wilson to join us now, we have agreed a deal with Liverpool and he has been left out of the Liverpool squad for a friendly today. Matt Grimes has an offer from us and Bournemouth. We are his preferred destination, but should be more on that on the next 48 hours.
Surely we won't let StefJo leave until Grimes is confirmed.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rock on July 23, 2021, 05:17:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sean_Gallagher9/status/1418535027663593475

Stefjo is a nice squad player, but not the be all, end all saviour they are making him to be. Perhaps shows even though we've just been relegated the gulf in class between our two squads.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 23, 2021, 05:18:27 PM
Wilson apparently done - 12m + addons

Are we happy?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 23, 2021, 05:55:19 PM
Wilson apparently done - 12m + addons

Are we happy?

Bit expensive for me, but whatever. Hope he goes on to live up to the price tag.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Barrett487 on July 23, 2021, 06:00:41 PM
Quote
I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

Watching Muniz clips he scored the majority of his goals with his head!
Right then, we just need the wide men who can deliver good crosses, can't remember the last time we saw one of them in action at the Cottage.
Les Barrett.
Les was such a great player.

I would suggest that Damian Duff was a pretty good crosser of the ball more recently.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 23, 2021, 06:08:45 PM
Wilson apparently done - 12m + addons

Are we happy?
Just two weeks to the first match, the more we get sorted, b0th ins and outs, in the next week the better.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Holders on July 23, 2021, 06:11:29 PM
Quote
I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

Watching Muniz clips he scored the majority of his goals with his head!
Right then, we just need the wide men who can deliver good crosses, can't remember the last time we saw one of them in action at the Cottage.
Les Barrett.

Pin-point from about a foot away from the goal-line at 90 degrees.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Holders on July 23, 2021, 06:13:41 PM
Wilson apparently done - 12m + addons

Are we happy?

If so, yes. It can't be said that Silva allowed it all to be left to the last minute. He could hardly have made his input much sooner.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: G_Gribby on July 23, 2021, 07:06:43 PM
Well Harry Wilson and from the same (Instagram) source, Rodrigo Muniz will join. Let’s see if this account is something to follow in the future.

Up the Fulham!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on July 23, 2021, 07:34:42 PM
Stef Jo won’t be a loss if he goes, which looks likely, but Anguissa will. The club should be doing everything within their power to retain him.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 23, 2021, 07:45:48 PM
Wilson apparently done - 12m + addons

Are we happy?

If so, yes. It can't be said that Silva allowed it all to be left to the last minute. He could hardly have made his input much sooner.
Maybe Silva told Shad that one of the conditions for joining was getting business done early as he'd noticed we were always slow with transfers?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 23, 2021, 08:20:51 PM
Wilson apparently done - 12m + addons

Are we happy?

If so, yes. It can't be said that Silva allowed it all to be left to the last minute. He could hardly have made his input much sooner.
Maybe Silva told Shad that one of the conditions for joining was getting business done early as he'd noticed we were always slow with transfers?

My understanding is that Silva has said he wants a winger, CM and a striker by the first game of the season. Those are the 3 key positions that need filling in his view. Anything else can come later. It’s a strategy which I agree with tbh
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Twig on July 23, 2021, 08:53:53 PM
Quote
I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

Watching Muniz clips he scored the majority of his goals with his head!
Right then, we just need the wide men who can deliver good crosses, can't remember the last time we saw one of them in action at the Cottage.
Les Barrett.
Les was such a great player.

I would suggest that Damian Duff was a pretty good crosser of the ball more recently.

So was Bjarne Goldbaek.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rock on July 23, 2021, 09:01:26 PM
Wilson apparently done - 12m + addons

Are we happy?

If so, yes. It can't be said that Silva allowed it all to be left to the last minute. He could hardly have made his input much sooner.
Maybe Silva told Shad that one of the conditions for joining was getting business done early as he'd noticed we were always slow with transfers?

My understanding is that Silva has said he wants a winger, CM and a striker by the first game of the season. Those are the 3 key positions that need filling in his view. Anything else can come later. It’s a strategy which I agree with tbh

We can agree to agree on that! Hopefully it is the Stef Jo's and pick your chronically injured CB's of choice that are shipped out rather than any of the would be starting 11.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Twig on July 23, 2021, 09:02:22 PM
Wilson apparently done - 12m + addons

Are we happy?

If so, yes. It can't be said that Silva allowed it all to be left to the last minute. He could hardly have made his input much sooner.
Maybe Silva told Shad that one of the conditions for joining was getting business done early as he'd noticed we were always slow with transfers?

My understanding is that Silva has said he wants a winger, CM and a striker by the first game of the season. Those are the 3 key positions that need filling in his view. Anything else can come later. It’s a strategy which I agree with tbh

So do you know Silva?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 23, 2021, 09:04:03 PM
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I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

Watching Muniz clips he scored the majority of his goals with his head!
Right then, we just need the wide men who can deliver good crosses, can't remember the last time we saw one of them in action at the Cottage.
Les Barrett.
Les was such a great player.

I would suggest that Damian Duff was a pretty good crosser of the ball more recently.

Damian Duff was the first instigator of the dark art of falling over when someone just touched him, Harry Kane reminds me of Duff every time he is tackled.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Twig on July 23, 2021, 09:08:37 PM
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I hope this Brazilian lad isn't to replace Mitro.

I don’t think he is to replace Mitro, he’s coming (if it happens) to add more speed and alternatives to the attack. We need to score more goals, that’s pretty obvious.
I am starting to dream of two strikers up front in an attacking 4-4-2 formation, one with real pace the other good in the air all resulting in a regular 2/3 goals per game at the Cottage.

Watching Muniz clips he scored the majority of his goals with his head!
Right then, we just need the wide men who can deliver good crosses, can't remember the last time we saw one of them in action at the Cottage.
Les Barrett.
Les was such a great player.

I would suggest that Damian Duff was a pretty good crosser of the ball more recently.

Damian Duff was the first instigator of the dark art of falling over when someone just touched him, Harry Kane reminds me of Duff every time he is tackled.

Duff was quick, could cross and was great to watch. What’s not to like?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on July 23, 2021, 10:30:10 PM
The Sun are reporting tonight that Man City and Wolves are battling it out for the signature of Antonee Robinson for £10 million,
Can see him, Reed and Anguissa going to raise a war chest for new recruits, personally I'd miss all three if it happens.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 23, 2021, 10:37:50 PM
Wilson apparently done - 12m + addons

Are we happy?

Bit expensive for me, but whatever. Hope he goes on to live up to the price tag.
12 million euros not pounds. 10 million pounds
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 23, 2021, 10:40:58 PM
I honestly don't think we will miss Anguissa as much as is feared if/when he goes.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Chesh on July 23, 2021, 10:46:23 PM
I honestly don't think we will miss Anguissa as much as is feared if/when he goes.
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I honestly don't think we will miss Anguissa as much as is feared if/when he goes.
Nor do I - never seen any consistency that makes me care whether he goes or not..... lot of unsubstantiated hype just because we wasted £30 mill on him imo
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 23, 2021, 10:55:41 PM
The Sun are reporting tonight that Man City and Wolves are battling it out for the signature of Antonee Robinson for £10 million,
Can see him, Reed and Anguissa going to raise a war chest for new recruits, personally I'd miss all three if it happens.

Zero chance of him getting in either of those teams. Most of us (including me) can't even decide if he should be starting ahead of Bryan. Sounds like another Tosin scenario where we overrate some of our own players and forget how poor we were with them at PL level
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FFC1987 on July 23, 2021, 10:56:07 PM
I'd be really disappointed if Robinson went. I know hes like marmite on here but his pace and athleticism is exactly what we lacked previous in the championship.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 23, 2021, 11:02:55 PM
The Sun are reporting tonight that Man City and Wolves are battling it out for the signature of Antonee Robinson for £10 million,
Can see him, Reed and Anguissa going to raise a war chest for new recruits, personally I'd miss all three if it happens.

Fulham want 25 million for Reed. No one will pay that. I’m sure he will stay
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Hatch007 on July 23, 2021, 11:20:33 PM
My understanding is that Silva has said he wants a winger, CM and a striker by the first game of the season. Those are the 3 key positions that need filling in his view. Anything else can come later. It’s a strategy which I agree with tbh

With StefJo departing that still leaves us with Reed, TC, Seri, Frank, Onomah & Carvalho. If Silva wants another CM at least one of the existing squad CMs must be departing. My money would be on Seri although I’ve read on here from more than one poster that Silva apparently rates Seri
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 23, 2021, 11:28:34 PM
My understanding is that Silva has said he wants a winger, CM and a striker by the first game of the season. Those are the 3 key positions that need filling in his view. Anything else can come later. It’s a strategy which I agree with tbh

With StefJo departing that still leaves us with Reed, TC, Seri, Frank, Onomah & Carvalho. If Silva wants another CM at least one of the existing squad CMs must be departing. My money would be on Seri although I’ve read on here from more than one poster that Silva apparently rates Seri

My money would be in Frank going
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on July 23, 2021, 11:31:59 PM
We probably need to sell one player this summer. So if selling Robinson means we keep Anguissa I’d call that a result. That said I hope we keep all of our regular starters that remain from last season.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Hatch007 on July 23, 2021, 11:34:19 PM
My money would be in Frank going

Yeah, I can see why but Frank would be a BEAST in the Championship. Seri hasn’t played for us for the last 2 seasons so he’s an unknown quantity in a white shirt. Of the two, I’d rather keep Frank if he performs like he did up to Christmas last season. Hard to know how much contracting Covid affected him
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 23, 2021, 11:35:43 PM
Wilson apparently done - 12m + addons

Are we happy?

If so, yes. It can't be said that Silva allowed it all to be left to the last minute. He could hardly have made his input much sooner.
Maybe Silva told Shad that one of the conditions for joining was getting business done early as he'd noticed we were always slow with transfers?

My understanding is that Silva has said he wants a winger, CM and a striker by the first game of the season. Those are the 3 key positions that need filling in his view. Anything else can come later. It’s a strategy which I agree with tbh

Given our strongest links are Wilson, Grimes and Munir that would be the pretty obvious assumption

Well see I guess.
Dont know much about Grimes but like the look of munir and wilson
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 23, 2021, 11:36:22 PM
I'd be really disappointed if Robinson went. I know hes like marmite on here but his pace and athleticism is exactly what we lacked previous in the championship.

If he just just cross a ball he's be gold dust!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Cookie6262 on July 24, 2021, 12:12:22 AM
As much as I would love to keep Anguissa if we could sell Frank, Seri for £20 million and maybe even Hector for £25 million and add Gromes, Wilson and Muniz we would and keep Robinson/Reed we would be pretty well set
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: millsy on July 24, 2021, 12:38:39 AM
I’m puzzled by all the concern that we might lose Frank. I’d cash in in a heartbeat. I’ve watched him closely and can’t see that he produces anything worthwhile and appears to have no football brain. I can only assume people are smitten by his physique and his undoubted fancy skills and overlook his too many shortcomings. Just one man’s opinion.sell!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2021, 03:42:56 AM
I’m puzzled by all the concern that we might lose Frank. I’d cash in in a heartbeat. I’ve watched him closely and can’t see that he produces anything worthwhile and appears to have no football brain. I can only assume people are smitten by his physique and his undoubted fancy skills and overlook his too many shortcomings. Just one man’s opinion.sell!

Your not the only one, I agree and he does not play within the framework of the team. I have never ever seen him communicate with colleagues as you would normally expect in a team environment.
I cannot envisage him being a bundle of laughs in the dressing room either and for me he flatters to decieve on the field of play also.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 24, 2021, 04:11:52 AM
One thing he has shown is the ability to "drive forward and attack defenses" he has shown that capability a few times.
If that can be changed into creating chances around him and his ability in defensive midfield then I say he's a "keeper".
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2021, 04:26:18 AM
One thing he has shown is the ability to "drive forward and attack defenses" he has shown that capability a few times.
If that can be changed into creating chances around him and his ability in defensive midfield then I say he's a "keeper".

First and foremost he does not play in goal so how can he be a keeper, and secondly he scored one goal last season, so his driving forward does not end up with very much success as there is no end product.
What was his price £30 million, His previous club Marseilles must have been laughing all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 04:57:42 AM
One thing he has shown is the ability to "drive forward and attack defenses" he has shown that capability a few times.
If that can be changed into creating chances around him and his ability in defensive midfield then I say he's a "keeper".

First and foremost he does not play in goal so how can he be a keeper, and secondly he scored one goal last season, so his driving forward does not end up with very much success as there is no end product.
What was his price £30 million, His previous club Marseilles must have been laughing all the way to the bank.

Did he really score a goal? Must have missed that. I like him but it's difficult to ever see him scoring.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2021, 05:42:10 AM
One thing he has shown is the ability to "drive forward and attack defenses" he has shown that capability a few times.
If that can be changed into creating chances around him and his ability in defensive midfield then I say he's a "keeper".

First and foremost he does not play in goal so how can he be a keeper, and secondly he scored one goal last season, so his driving forward does not end up with very much success as there is no end product.
What was his price £30 million, His previous club Marseilles must have been laughing all the way to the bank.

Did he really score a goal? Must have missed that. I like him but it's difficult to ever see him scoring.

Now you mention it I am not sure myself, perhaps I dreamt it.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: MickeyAdamsFamily on July 24, 2021, 06:23:01 AM
OK, so I know that a lot of people turn up their noses at all the advanced statistics and metrics that are now available, but some of them can be useful tools to help evaluate a player's strengths and weaknesses, and how their play can impact a game in ways that might not be obvious. There is a stat called "successful dribbles", which is when a player beats his marker and drives forward with the ball such that another player must then cover him. I believe that to qualify as successful, they must travel a minimum distance forward, which I think is 10 metres. Although it sounds like this should happen all the time with players all over the pitch, it is actually rather rare in real game situations in the Premier League.
In the 2020-21 Premier League season, Adama Traore led the league in successful dribbles. There were 2 players tied for 2nd; Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa and Andre St. Maximin. there was a sizeable gap separating those 2 from the following players, Sadio Mane, and then Marcus Rashford. Raheem Sterling was 9th in the league, and Jack Grealish was 10th.
The great value that a successful dribble contributes is that it can destroy the defensive shape of the opposition. When 2 or 3 players converge to defend a player dribbling the ball, that inevitably leaves attacking players unmarked. and although it doesnt always lead directly to goals, it definitely leads to goal scoring opportunities for other players. If a player is surrounded by others who can take advantage of those opportunities, the goals will come.
For those who think that Anguissa has occasional flashes of eye-catching talent, but no end product, I think they may be missing what a lot of professional football people can see; that he can consistently produce those high level performances in the Premier League and La Liga, and if surrounded by the right players, he can contribute greatly to a team's overall possibility of success. That's why they value him so highly in the transfer market.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sunburywhite on July 24, 2021, 06:26:11 AM
Years   Team   Apps   (Gls)
2015–2018   Marseille   79   (0)
2018–   Fulham   58   (0)
2019–2020   → Villarreal (loan)   36   (2)
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 24, 2021, 06:37:53 AM
I’m puzzled by all the concern that we might lose Frank. I’d cash in in a heartbeat. I’ve watched him closely and can’t see that he produces anything worthwhile and appears to have no football brain. I can only assume people are smitten by his physique and his undoubted fancy skills and overlook his too many shortcomings. Just one man’s opinion.sell!

Your not the only one, I agree and he does not play within the framework of the team. I have never ever seen him communicate with colleagues as you would normally expect in a team environment.
I cannot envisage him being a bundle of laughs in the dressing room either and for me he flatters to decieve on the field of play also.
I agree, sell him. He is the only one I think we can sell for really good money who I don't think we'd miss. Invest the proceeds back into those coming in - Grimes, Wilson and the Brazilian striker on a loan fee.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: paulbrookersmazydribbles on July 24, 2021, 07:05:07 AM
Our loan offer for Muniz has been rejected by Flamengo

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/flamengo-reject-fulhams-muniz-loan-bid/
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Nero on July 24, 2021, 08:25:44 AM
OK, so I know that a lot of people turn up their noses at all the advanced statistics and metrics that are now available, but some of them can be useful tools to help evaluate a player's strengths and weaknesses, and how their play can impact a game in ways that might not be obvious. There is a stat called "successful dribbles", which is when a player beats his marker and drives forward with the ball such that another player must then cover him. I believe that to qualify as successful, they must travel a minimum distance forward, which I think is 10 metres. Although it sounds like this should happen all the time with players all over the pitch, it is actually rather rare in real game situations in the Premier League.
In the 2020-21 Premier League season, Adama Traore led the league in successful dribbles. There were 2 players tied for 2nd; Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa and Andre St. Maximin. there was a sizeable gap separating those 2 from the following players, Sadio Mane, and then Marcus Rashford. Raheem Sterling was 9th in the league, and Jack Grealish was 10th.
The great value that a successful dribble contributes is that it can destroy the defensive shape of the opposition. When 2 or 3 players converge to defend a player dribbling the ball, that inevitably leaves attacking players unmarked. and although it doesnt always lead directly to goals, it definitely leads to goal scoring opportunities for other players. If a player is surrounded by others who can take advantage of those opportunities, the goals will come.
For those who think that Anguissa has occasional flashes of eye-catching talent, but no end product, I think they may be missing what a lot of professional football people can see; that he can consistently produce those high level performances in the Premier League and La Liga, and if surrounded by the right players, he can contribute greatly to a team's overall possibility of success. That's why they value him so highly in the transfer market.

But rarely scores or assists throughout his career. Think re runs into a lot of dead ends
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on July 24, 2021, 08:40:27 AM
OK, so I know that a lot of people turn up their noses at all the advanced statistics and metrics that are now available, but some of them can be useful tools to help evaluate a player's strengths and weaknesses, and how their play can impact a game in ways that might not be obvious. There is a stat called "successful dribbles", which is when a player beats his marker and drives forward with the ball such that another player must then cover him. I believe that to qualify as successful, they must travel a minimum distance forward, which I think is 10 metres. Although it sounds like this should happen all the time with players all over the pitch, it is actually rather rare in real game situations in the Premier League.
In the 2020-21 Premier League season, Adama Traore led the league in successful dribbles. There were 2 players tied for 2nd; Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa and Andre St. Maximin. there was a sizeable gap separating those 2 from the following players, Sadio Mane, and then Marcus Rashford. Raheem Sterling was 9th in the league, and Jack Grealish was 10th.
The great value that a successful dribble contributes is that it can destroy the defensive shape of the opposition. When 2 or 3 players converge to defend a player dribbling the ball, that inevitably leaves attacking players unmarked. and although it doesnt always lead directly to goals, it definitely leads to goal scoring opportunities for other players. If a player is surrounded by others who can take advantage of those opportunities, the goals will come.
For those who think that Anguissa has occasional flashes of eye-catching talent, but no end product, I think they may be missing what a lot of professional football people can see; that he can consistently produce those high level performances in the Premier League and La Liga, and if surrounded by the right players, he can contribute greatly to a team's overall possibility of success. That's why they value him so highly in the transfer market.

Good post. Anguissa has always played in the top leagues. He would be one of the stand out players in the Championship and a player we should be looking to keep if the club are serious about promotion.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: colinwhite on July 24, 2021, 09:06:32 AM
OK, so I know that a lot of people turn up their noses at all the advanced statistics and metrics that are now available, but some of them can be useful tools to help evaluate a player's strengths and weaknesses, and how their play can impact a game in ways that might not be obvious. There is a stat called "successful dribbles", which is when a player beats his marker and drives forward with the ball such that another player must then cover him. I believe that to qualify as successful, they must travel a minimum distance forward, which I think is 10 metres. Although it sounds like this should happen all the time with players all over the pitch, it is actually rather rare in real game situations in the Premier League.
In the 2020-21 Premier League season, Adama Traore led the league in successful dribbles. There were 2 players tied for 2nd; Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa and Andre St. Maximin. there was a sizeable gap separating those 2 from the following players, Sadio Mane, and then Marcus Rashford. Raheem Sterling was 9th in the league, and Jack Grealish was 10th.
The great value that a successful dribble contributes is that it can destroy the defensive shape of the opposition. When 2 or 3 players converge to defend a player dribbling the ball, that inevitably leaves attacking players unmarked. and although it doesnt always lead directly to goals, it definitely leads to goal scoring opportunities for other players. If a player is surrounded by others who can take advantage of those opportunities, the goals will come.
For those who think that Anguissa has occasional flashes of eye-catching talent, but no end product, I think they may be missing what a lot of professional football people can see; that he can consistently produce those high level performances in the Premier League and La Liga, and if surrounded by the right players, he can contribute greatly to a team's overall possibility of success. That's why they value him so highly in the transfer market.

Good post. Anguissa has always played in the top leagues. He would be one of the stand out players in the Championship and a player we should be looking to keep if the club are serious about promotion.

A lot of good points in both these posts.   Two players ,one is outstanding at lower level and can stamp his will on everything ,whilst the other player at the same level plays well but doesnt really stick out. They both go up a level and the first player is out of his depth whilst the second player continues to play his game and performs at a high level . He (the second player who is unspectacular) is the one who has the highest level in his play.
When it comes to Frank ,I think he does flatter to decieve and has too few  goals or assists. Not sure he will rip up the championship as many think but he definitely has the potential. I think a year at a lower level (in the championship ) could be what he needs to open up the flood gates of his potential.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tooting legend on July 24, 2021, 09:13:00 AM
Thought this was a transfer thread not a discussion thread. Can we just keep it to transfer rumours otherwise it gets really boring.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: millsy on July 24, 2021, 09:25:57 AM
If you playback any of his games for us and follow him not the ball and I think you’ll see that he repeatedly loses his man, is weak in the tackle, careless with his passing further than 3 yards and can’t shoot.

I do agree he has the ability to run with the ball and can create space for others but at least at PL level, his shortcomings are too much to carry. Will he get away with it in the Championship? Maybe but quite a gamble.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FulhamStu on July 24, 2021, 09:43:47 AM
StefJo is an 8, him being off to QPR makes Frank more likely to be staying.
Silva is an attacking manager and should hopefully get Frank to be more productive, he has the talent.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2021, 09:44:13 AM
OK, so I know that a lot of people turn up their noses at all the advanced statistics and metrics that are now available, but some of them can be useful tools to help evaluate a player's strengths and weaknesses, and how their play can impact a game in ways that might not be obvious. There is a stat called "successful dribbles", which is when a player beats his marker and drives forward with the ball such that another player must then cover him. I believe that to qualify as successful, they must travel a minimum distance forward, which I think is 10 metres. Although it sounds like this should happen all the time with players all over the pitch, it is actually rather rare in real game situations in the Premier League.
In the 2020-21 Premier League season, Adama Traore led the league in successful dribbles. There were 2 players tied for 2nd; Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa and Andre St. Maximin. there was a sizeable gap separating those 2 from the following players, Sadio Mane, and then Marcus Rashford. Raheem Sterling was 9th in the league, and Jack Grealish was 10th.
The great value that a successful dribble contributes is that it can destroy the defensive shape of the opposition. When 2 or 3 players converge to defend a player dribbling the ball, that inevitably leaves attacking players unmarked. and although it doesnt always lead directly to goals, it definitely leads to goal scoring opportunities for other players. If a player is surrounded by others who can take advantage of those opportunities, the goals will come.
For those who think that Anguissa has occasional flashes of eye-catching talent, but no end product, I think they may be missing what a lot of professional football people can see; that he can consistently produce those high level performances in the Premier League and La Liga, and if surrounded by the right players, he can contribute greatly to a team's overall possibility of success. That's why they value him so highly in the transfer market.

I disagree, Zambo does not punch his weight at all, disappears under a blade of grass as soon as the going gets tough. No character I would not want to be stuck with him in a bomb crater 20 miles behind enemy lines he would throw the towel in.
He showed flashes but overal an expensive flop due to relying on stats.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 09:57:46 AM
I also really can't see him staying personally. We were all going on about him being a beast in the championship last time we went down and then he was loaned out to villareal
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 24, 2021, 10:00:51 AM
Thought this was a transfer thread not a discussion thread. Can we just keep it to transfer rumours otherwise it gets really boring.

Whereas this sort of post isn't boring at all...
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 24, 2021, 10:07:04 AM
Everyone always seems to be saying we need to build a "PL ready" team before we get promoted. Personally I think that's a bit naive, any promoted club is going to need to replace half their team, but if we are indeed looking to acquire and keep PL quality players then Anguissa is definitely our best example of that. If he's getting sold to raise funds (which I accept he probably is) the reality is those funds will be used to buy Championship quality players that we then need to replace with an a new Anguissa if we get promoted.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bigalffc on July 24, 2021, 10:11:44 AM
Thought this was a transfer thread not a discussion thread. Can we just keep it to transfer rumours otherwise it gets really boring.
:plus one:
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 24, 2021, 10:32:24 AM
Our loan offer for Muniz has been rejected by Flamengo

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/flamengo-reject-fulhams-muniz-loan-bid/



Was starting to get a little excited by the prospect of him coming. Hopefully we go back in
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 24, 2021, 10:33:14 AM
I'd be really disappointed if Robinson went. I know hes like marmite on here but his pace and athleticism is exactly what we lacked previous in the championship.

If he just just cross a ball he's be gold dust!
Hopefully the new manager is going to want more crosses into the box and may therefore prefer Bryan to Robinson,.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 24, 2021, 10:35:48 AM
Thought this was a transfer thread not a discussion thread. Can we just keep it to transfer rumours otherwise it gets really boring.
:plus one:
I am quite enjoying the discussion about possible signings and how our team could look this coming season.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Danitar on July 24, 2021, 10:51:52 AM
I thought Grimes would be over the line by now. Are we just waiting for Stefjo to complete his medical before we announce Grimes if anyone knows?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on July 24, 2021, 10:54:42 AM
Everyone always seems to be saying we need to build a "PL ready" team before we get promoted. Personally I think that's a bit naive, any promoted club is going to need to replace half their team, but if we are indeed looking to acquire and keep PL quality players then Anguissa is definitely our best example of that. If he's getting sold to raise funds (which I accept he probably is) the reality is those funds will be used to buy Championship quality players that we then need to replace with an a new Anguissa if we get promoted.

Totally agree.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Caedal on July 24, 2021, 11:14:43 AM
Looks like the Johansen announcement is imminent judging from his twitter. That should start the ball rolling
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: 70sPimlico on July 24, 2021, 11:14:48 AM
I’m puzzled by all the concern that we might lose Frank. I’d cash in in a heartbeat. I’ve watched him closely and can’t see that he produces anything worthwhile and appears to have no football brain. I can only assume people are smitten by his physique and his undoubted fancy skills and overlook his too many shortcomings. Just one man’s opinion.sell!

Your not the only one, I agree and he does not play within the framework of the team. I have never ever seen him communicate with colleagues as you would normally expect in a team environment.
I cannot envisage him being a bundle of laughs in the dressing room either and for me he flatters to decieve on the field of play also.
You're view on his footballing ability is about as correct as your view on personality.

It's your view, and of course, like most of your views you repeat them at every opportunity a multitude of times. (This doesn't make them right, by the way)

Take a look at what his teammates say about him. You couldn't be further from the truth.

I have never ever seen him communicate with colleagues as you would normally expect in a team environment. I mean, really?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Caedal on July 24, 2021, 11:18:02 AM
Everyone always seems to be saying we need to build a "PL ready" team before we get promoted. Personally I think that's a bit naive, any promoted club is going to need to replace half their team, but if we are indeed looking to acquire and keep PL quality players then Anguissa is definitely our best example of that. If he's getting sold to raise funds (which I accept he probably is) the reality is those funds will be used to buy Championship quality players that we then need to replace with an a new Anguissa if we get promoted.

Absolutely correct. I personally wouldn’t sell Frank unless it’s absolutely vital for ffp (which I don’t think it is with the 120m premier league prize money from last season plus 50m  parachute payment.

What we should be doing is looking at younger players who have done well in the championship and even league 1 and have the potential to grow into Premier League players. There are countless examples in recent years of this strategy paying off for teams that take the chance of those kind of players.

Just to add another caveat to this, our squad must be the most expensive squad to ever play in the Championship. Automatic is an absolute necessity
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2021, 11:19:29 AM
I’m puzzled by all the concern that we might lose Frank. I’d cash in in a heartbeat. I’ve watched him closely and can’t see that he produces anything worthwhile and appears to have no football brain. I can only assume people are smitten by his physique and his undoubted fancy skills and overlook his too many shortcomings. Just one man’s opinion.sell!

Your not the only one, I agree and he does not play within the framework of the team. I have never ever seen him communicate with colleagues as you would normally expect in a team environment.
I cannot envisage him being a bundle of laughs in the dressing room either and for me he flatters to decieve on the field of play also.
You're view on his footballing ability is about as correct as your view on personality.

It's your view, and of course, like most of your views you repeat them at every opportunity a multitude of times. (This doesn't make them right, by the way)

Take a look at what his teammates say about him. You couldn't be further from the truth.

I have never ever seen him communicate with colleagues as you would normally expect in a team environment. I mean, really?

If I agreed with you we would both be wrong, by the way your Application to
join my fan club has been denied. 
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 24, 2021, 11:36:10 AM
I see the usual BIG TEAMS are embarking on madness in the transfer market. As FFP doesn´t seem to come into their thoughts Man City are after  Grealish, Kane for a combined 250 mil.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 24, 2021, 12:07:17 PM
I see the usual BIG TEAMS are embarking on madness in the transfer market. As FFP doesn´t seem to come into their thoughts Man City are after  Grealish, Kane for a combined 250 mil.

Well their annual revenue is something like £500m so they're probably still complying

Although I agree the system is all wrong, if that's your sentiment
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Cravenette on July 24, 2021, 12:21:29 PM
I'd be really disappointed if Robinson went. I know hes like marmite on here but his pace and athleticism is exactly what we lacked previous in the championship.

If he just just cross a ball he's be gold dust!
Hopefully the new manager is going to want more crosses into the box and may therefore prefer Bryan to Robinson,.

No doubt that Joe is the better crosser by a country mile, but you cannot train pace and most defenders absolutely hate anyone running at them at speed.  I think Robinson should be able to be coached to cross better.  You can bet your life if he does move to City he will be coached on when and how to cross a ball.

Personally I think we should definitely be keeping both.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 24, 2021, 12:27:02 PM
I thought Grimes would be over the line by now. Are we just waiting for Stefjo to complete his medical before we announce Grimes if anyone knows?

According to Swansea journalist Grimes has tested positive for Covid
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 24, 2021, 12:28:39 PM
I thought Grimes would be over the line by now. Are we just waiting for Stefjo to complete his medical before we announce Grimes if anyone knows?

According to Swansea journalist Grimes has tested positive for Covid

The guy who tweeted it is a fake account is it not? He's got 20 odd followers which is suspicious for a "journalist"
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 24, 2021, 12:29:29 PM
I thought Grimes would be over the line by now. Are we just waiting for Stefjo to complete his medical before we announce Grimes if anyone knows?

According to Swansea journalist Grimes has tested positive for Covid

The guy who tweeted it is a fake account is it not? He's got 20 odd followers which is suspicious for a "journalist"

I don’t know tbh, never heard of him haha
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 24, 2021, 12:33:29 PM
I thought Grimes would be over the line by now. Are we just waiting for Stefjo to complete his medical before we announce Grimes if anyone knows?

According to Swansea journalist Grimes has tested positive for Covid
So that will not stop us, there is usually a good sicknote in our summer signings.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 24, 2021, 12:41:12 PM
Paolo Gazzanigga having a medical at Fulham apparently
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 24, 2021, 12:47:59 PM
Paolo Gazzanigga having a medical at Fulham apparently
First choice or back up thats the question.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on July 24, 2021, 12:48:30 PM
Seems like every window we have to buy a goalkeeper, really odd.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2021, 12:49:39 PM
Paolo Gazzanigga having a medical at Fulham apparently

I took his height when he walked through the gates at MP  6 feet 5 inches, and very tall for his height.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 24, 2021, 12:52:50 PM
This probably means Fabri is off, and Gazzanigga will be good competition for Rodak. We almost signed him before Areola last summer too
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on July 24, 2021, 12:56:48 PM
All journalists on Twitter saying Wilson flying in for medical, terms agreed on all sides.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on July 24, 2021, 01:19:20 PM
All journalists on Twitter saying Wilson flying in for medical, terms agreed on all sides.

£12 mill was the text I got from a Liverpool friend and avid reader of all their journos
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 24, 2021, 01:33:29 PM
Paulo Gazzaniga (spurs keeper) having a medical as well and reports StefJo is £450k and add-ons

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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 24, 2021, 01:34:28 PM
Gazzaniga was on his way here last window, before Areola, wasn't he?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 24, 2021, 01:35:09 PM
Gazzaniga was on his way here last window, before Areola, wasn't he?

Yes Spurs wanted 10 mill so we signed Areola instead
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: paulbrookersmazydribbles on July 24, 2021, 01:41:51 PM
If Rodak gets replaced again, I will be very disappointed.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on July 24, 2021, 01:46:27 PM
Reiss Nelson on loan, latest rumour on Twitter.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: paulbrookersmazydribbles on July 24, 2021, 01:50:36 PM
Reiss Nelson on loan, latest rumour on Twitter.

I saw Reece Parkinson post that on Twitter. I thought he was just joking - not sure he's read the room after bragging of his 'involvement' in the RLC transfer.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 24, 2021, 01:52:04 PM
If Rodak gets replaced again, I will be very disappointed.

It'll be a backup freebie like we tried for the American keeper the other week, means we can let Fabri go as well as Betts and shift some wages and have decent competition for the #1 spot
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 24, 2021, 01:52:29 PM
If Rodak gets replaced again, I will be very disappointed.
Yeah, seems harsh on Rodak but can't see Gazzaniga joining us as second choice
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 24, 2021, 01:52:41 PM
All journalists on Twitter saying Wilson flying in for medical, terms agreed on all sides.

£12 mill was the text I got from a Liverpool friend and avid reader of all their journos
According to UK media sources it is 10 million pounds which is maybe 12 million euros. They wanted 14 million pounds maybe we have offset the Elliot fee
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 24, 2021, 01:53:00 PM
If Rodak gets replaced again, I will be very disappointed.

Agreed

Also people need to stop throwing the word journalist around so casually, mostly in reference to 19 year olds with <50 Twitter followers

99% of the stuff on this thread is going to be complete rubbish, like the various manager rumours. Probably including this Gazzaniga rumour.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 01:56:53 PM
If Gazzaniga is coming and been assured number 1 then I'm not best pleased. But if he's being brought in to compete for number 1 it's fine by me because I've seen nothing to suggest he's a better goaly than Rody. Why did spurs release him? Surely better than Joe Hart?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Dodgin on July 24, 2021, 02:08:07 PM
Harry Wilson looks like a done deal.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 02:24:39 PM
Would be lying if I said I wasn't getting excited but as a Fulham fan I know I need to be cautious.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WolverineFFC on July 24, 2021, 02:28:03 PM
OK, so I know that a lot of people turn up their noses at all the advanced statistics and metrics that are now available, but some of them can be useful tools to help evaluate a player's strengths and weaknesses, and how their play can impact a game in ways that might not be obvious. There is a stat called "successful dribbles", which is when a player beats his marker and drives forward with the ball such that another player must then cover him. I believe that to qualify as successful, they must travel a minimum distance forward, which I think is 10 metres. Although it sounds like this should happen all the time with players all over the pitch, it is actually rather rare in real game situations in the Premier League.
In the 2020-21 Premier League season, Adama Traore led the league in successful dribbles. There were 2 players tied for 2nd; Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa and Andre St. Maximin. there was a sizeable gap separating those 2 from the following players, Sadio Mane, and then Marcus Rashford. Raheem Sterling was 9th in the league, and Jack Grealish was 10th.
The great value that a successful dribble contributes is that it can destroy the defensive shape of the opposition. When 2 or 3 players converge to defend a player dribbling the ball, that inevitably leaves attacking players unmarked. and although it doesnt always lead directly to goals, it definitely leads to goal scoring opportunities for other players. If a player is surrounded by others who can take advantage of those opportunities, the goals will come.
For those who think that Anguissa has occasional flashes of eye-catching talent, but no end product, I think they may be missing what a lot of professional football people can see; that he can consistently produce those high level performances in the Premier League and La Liga, and if surrounded by the right players, he can contribute greatly to a team's overall possibility of success. That's why they value him so highly in the transfer market.

Your analysis is spot on and a large reason why Fulham should sell him unfortunately. People use the term luxury player to describe certain traits in a player. While I don't believe FZA is a "luxury" player, his presence on Fulham is a luxury that makes no sense. The talent around him does not play up his strengths and it is therefore wasted. The club would be be wise to sell him and re-invest in someone who will improve the team's fortunes over the next 2-3 seasons. Even though he is a fine player, FZA just does not do this.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Fernhurst on July 24, 2021, 02:36:18 PM
Would be lying if I said I wasn't getting excited but as a Fulham fan I know I need to be cautious.

Agreed, we mustn’t mustn’t get excited but just watched Harry Wilson highlights and my grandson said “with this squad we really should p::: this league 🎉🔥💪🎉 Think Harry is perfect for this (and if our ambition is attained) next season.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on July 24, 2021, 02:41:26 PM
If Rodak gets replaced again, I will be very disappointed.

Agreed

Also people need to stop throwing the word journalist around so casually, mostly in reference to 19 year olds with <50 Twitter followers

99% of the stuff on this thread is going to be complete rubbish, like the various manager rumours. Probably including this Gazzaniga rumour.


Actually statto, if you looked before criticising you will see it is mostly accredited journalists.  I check before I post.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 24, 2021, 02:51:15 PM
If Rodak gets replaced again, I will be very disappointed.

Agreed

Also people need to stop throwing the word journalist around so casually, mostly in reference to 19 year olds with <50 Twitter followers

99% of the stuff on this thread is going to be complete rubbish, like the various manager rumours. Probably including this Gazzaniga rumour.


Actually statto, if you looked before criticising you will see it is mostly accredited journalists.  I check before I post.

Wasn't really aimed at you anyway though
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: filham on July 24, 2021, 02:51:22 PM
Would be lying if I said I wasn't getting excited but as a Fulham fan I know I need to be cautious.

Agreed, we mustn’t mustn’t get excited but just watched Harry Wilson highlights and my grandson said “with this squad we really should p::: this league 🎉🔥💪🎉 Think Harry is perfect for this (and if our ambition is attained) next season.
Agree, don't believe anything until it is on the OFAL
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 02:52:26 PM
Would be lying if I said I wasn't getting excited but as a Fulham fan I know I need to be cautious.

Agreed, we mustn’t mustn’t get excited but just watched Harry Wilson highlights and my grandson said “with this squad we really should p::: this league 🎉🔥💪🎉 Think Harry is perfect for this (and if our ambition is attained) next season.

Fernhurst - I watched Wilson's Hatrick for Cardiff last season. Outside of the boot lefty to lob the keeper followed by 2 great freekicks. We're really missing a winger with that sort of finess. I mean Cav and Tony Knockers (especially) have been poor so I'm looking forward to his arrival. I feel like I may have asked you this before but are you from Fernhurst? asking because nowadays i'm just down the road in Haslemere
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 24, 2021, 02:59:01 PM
StefJo is confirmed.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 24, 2021, 03:10:34 PM
OK, so I know that a lot of people turn up their noses at all the advanced statistics and metrics that are now available, but some of them can be useful tools to help evaluate a player's strengths and weaknesses, and how their play can impact a game in ways that might not be obvious. There is a stat called "successful dribbles", which is when a player beats his marker and drives forward with the ball such that another player must then cover him. I believe that to qualify as successful, they must travel a minimum distance forward, which I think is 10 metres. Although it sounds like this should happen all the time with players all over the pitch, it is actually rather rare in real game situations in the Premier League.
In the 2020-21 Premier League season, Adama Traore led the league in successful dribbles. There were 2 players tied for 2nd; Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa and Andre St. Maximin. there was a sizeable gap separating those 2 from the following players, Sadio Mane, and then Marcus Rashford. Raheem Sterling was 9th in the league, and Jack Grealish was 10th.
The great value that a successful dribble contributes is that it can destroy the defensive shape of the opposition. When 2 or 3 players converge to defend a player dribbling the ball, that inevitably leaves attacking players unmarked. and although it doesnt always lead directly to goals, it definitely leads to goal scoring opportunities for other players. If a player is surrounded by others who can take advantage of those opportunities, the goals will come.
For those who think that Anguissa has occasional flashes of eye-catching talent, but no end product, I think they may be missing what a lot of professional football people can see; that he can consistently produce those high level performances in the Premier League and La Liga, and if surrounded by the right players, he can contribute greatly to a team's overall possibility of success. That's why they value him so highly in the transfer market.

Excellent stuff and a lot more detailed than I was trying to explain
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Ivorwasgod on July 24, 2021, 03:13:48 PM
i see that Gazzinga (?) - who may or may not be having a medical - is a free agent after being released by Spuds - surely worth a punt as a freebie - i agree we have limited funds to spend (unless we sell) so not #1 priority but as a free agent ? 
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: LC on July 24, 2021, 03:15:05 PM
Wilson was on my list of players to get this summer- very happy with this signing if confirmed.

We still need a centre back, (presuming Zambo leaves) then 2 midfielders and a forward.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 24, 2021, 03:18:01 PM
Wilson was on my list of players to get this summer- very happy with this signing if confirmed.

We still need a centre back, (presuming Zambo leaves) then 2 midfielders and a forward.

I think CB is one position we certainly don’t need. We currently have 8 of them!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Ivorwasgod on July 24, 2021, 03:27:40 PM
Wilson was on my list of players to get this summer- very happy with this signing if confirmed.

We still need a centre back, (presuming Zambo leaves) then 2 midfielders and a forward.

I think CB is one position we certainly don’t need. We currently have 8 of them!

 agreed well at least 6 depending where you class Odoi unless ive miscounted

Tosin, opuku, mawson, hector, Ream, Kongolo,
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on July 24, 2021, 03:28:40 PM
If Rodak gets replaced again, I will be very disappointed.

My feelings too. I suspect this is cover not like Areola . Spurs let his contract run out & have signed anther cover keeper from Atalanta. I think Rodak is a brilliant shot stopper but I hope watching the Frenchman for a year has improved his kicking. He's not a natural in that department
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Fernhurst on July 24, 2021, 03:40:27 PM
Would be lying if I said I wasn't getting excited but as a Fulham fan I know I need to be cautious.

Agreed, we mustn’t mustn’t get excited but just watched Harry Wilson highlights and my grandson said “with this squad we really should p::: this league 🎉🔥💪🎉 Think Harry is perfect for this (and if our ambition is attained) next season.

Fernhurst - I watched Wilson's Hatrick for Cardiff last season. Outside of the boot lefty to lob the keeper followed by 2 great freekicks. We're really missing a winger with that sort of finess. I mean Cav and Tony Knockers (especially) have been poor so I'm looking forward to his arrival. I feel like I may have asked you this before but are you from Fernhurst? asking because nowadays i'm just down the road in Haslemere


Hi Jeeves
I know Fernhurst and Haslemere very well as I grew up and started work in Guildford, however my tag is due to the fact I was born in FERNHURST ROAD FULHAM.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on July 24, 2021, 03:49:07 PM
Wilson was on my list of players to get this summer- very happy with this signing if confirmed.

We still need a centre back, (presuming Zambo leaves) then 2 midfielders and a forward.

I think CB is one position we certainly don’t need. We currently have 8 of them!

 agreed well at least 6 depending where you class Odoi unless ive miscounted

Tosin, opuku, mawson, hector, Ream, Kongolo,


The only reliable centre back on the books is Tosin so I see what LC is saying. That said even Tosin had a wobble in the run in last season. Kongolo and Mawson are both decent but will they ever be injury free. Opoku is untried at the level so only the coaching staff know if he is ready for the Championship. If Hector can recreate his form pre-COVID, albeit he did have a decent game in the play off final he may be ok but what we saw last season was not good. Ream has some positives but there is always a mistake in his game whilst Odoi is not predominantly a centre back. Then there is Le Marchand who has been poor. I would hope from within this group Silva is able to mould a solid partnership. Think there are other areas that need addressing first but an area we would have to strengthen in the longer term.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 24, 2021, 04:37:35 PM
Would be lying if I said I wasn't getting excited but as a Fulham fan I know I need to be cautious.

Agreed, we mustn’t mustn’t get excited but just watched Harry Wilson highlights and my grandson said “with this squad we really should p::: this league 🎉🔥💪🎉 Think Harry is perfect for this (and if our ambition is attained) next season.

Fernhurst - I watched Wilson's Hatrick for Cardiff last season. Outside of the boot lefty to lob the keeper followed by 2 great freekicks. We're really missing a winger with that sort of finess. I mean Cav and Tony Knockers (especially) have been poor so I'm looking forward to his arrival. I feel like I may have asked you this before but are you from Fernhurst? asking because nowadays i'm just down the road in Haslemere


Hi Jeeves
I know Fernhurst and Haslemere very well as I grew up and started work in Guildford, however my tag is due to the fact I was born in FERNHURST ROAD FULHAM.


I was born in Haslemere in 1950
On my last visit to the UK me, my wife and my brother toured Haslemere
and a guy at the Cottage Hospital showed me the room where
I was born, although it was no longer a maternity ward.
Haslemere has an interestig link to the US.  James Ogelthorpe was the
Member of Parliament for haslemere and subsequently the first Governor
 of Georgia USA in the 1670's. 
Interesting family things !! The bells at St Stephens, Shottermil hadn't rung for many years.
My cousin Terry Vale put speakers in the tower and the bells rang at his sister, Heathers wedding.
By coincidence, my niece has just moved to Haslmere
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Caedal on July 24, 2021, 05:01:44 PM
“LEMINA LEAVES SOUTHAMPTON

Mario Lemina has joined Ligue 1 side Nice from Southampton.

The Gabon international was a big money signing for the Saints in 2017, but spent last season on loan at Fulham.”

I was a bigger fan of Lamina than most, and am sad we weren’t able to keep him. Glad he’s gone to a Nice club 😉
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 05:04:43 PM
haha wow amazing! I'm originally from Esher, born in Kingston upon thames but ended up here. Watched the euro final in the shottermill club which is about 100 yards from my house. Any way, I won't ask again now Fernhurst! Also these lot probably ain't got a clue what we're on about! On with the transfer news.. Any developments?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 24, 2021, 05:24:56 PM
Most of my family lived in Cherry Tree Avenue and The Avenue (up Lion Lane)
I was there until I was 4 and we moved to Feltham.
We used  to play football in a field in Lion Lane, the slope was about 8/10 feet (if I remember)
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sunburywhite on July 24, 2021, 06:01:15 PM
Would be lying if I said I wasn't getting excited but as a Fulham fan I know I need to be cautious.

Agreed, we mustn’t mustn’t get excited but just watched Harry Wilson highlights and my grandson said “with this squad we really should p::: this league 🎉🔥💪🎉 Think Harry is perfect for this (and if our ambition is attained) next season.

Fernhurst - I watched Wilson's Hatrick for Cardiff last season. Outside of the boot lefty to lob the keeper followed by 2 great freekicks. We're really missing a winger with that sort of finess. I mean Cav and Tony Knockers (especially) have been poor so I'm looking forward to his arrival. I feel like I may have asked you this before but are you from Fernhurst? asking because nowadays i'm just down the road in Haslemere


Hi Jeeves
I know Fernhurst and Haslemere very well as I grew up and started work in Guildford, however my tag is due to the fact I was born in FERNHURST ROAD FULHAM.


I was born in Haslemere in 1950
On my last visit to the UK me, my wife and my brother toured Haslemere
and a guy at the Cottage Hospital showed me the room where
I was born, although it was no longer a maternity ward.
Haslemere has an interestig link to the US.  James Ogelthorpe was the
Member of Parliament for haslemere and subsequently the first Governor
 of Georgia USA in the 1670's. 
Interesting family things !! The bells at St Stephens, Shottermil hadn't rung for many years.
My cousin Terry Vale put speakers in the tower and the bells rang at his sister, Heathers wedding.
By coincidence, my niece has just moved to Haslmere


Steeple Dorset
The American Connection
Agnes, heiress of the Washington family and ancestor of George Washington, the first President of the United States of America, married Edmund Lawrence, whose family (as did hers) originated from the Duchy of Lancaster. In 1540 the Lawrences moved to Steeple, while a descendant of the Washingtons, John, settled in Virginia, and became the great grandfather of George Washington.
The Stars and Stripes of the American flag were derived from the quartering of the arms of the Lawrences of Steeple and the Washingtons. These are seen in a number of places in St Michael and All Angels, Steeple. There is a stone memorial mural tablet over the east doorway of the north transept, another in the main porch and bosses on the barrel ceiling of the nave.

A later American connection with Steeple was during the Second World War (1939-1945), when British and American troops trained for the Normandy landings in the requisitioned Purbeck coast, when many Americans worshipped in the church o f Steeple; ahead of their fearsome ordeal.
In more recent years Steeple was presented with the Washington flag by the Mayor of Washington, which is hung in the church.
We give a very special and warm welcome to our American cousins and hope they will be interested by Steeple’s historic connection with their first President.

The Washington quartering (stars and stripes) is derived from the marriage of Edmund Lawrence and Agnes, heiress of the Washington family. Their descendant was Sir Edward Lawrence of Creech Grange, whose initials with the date 1616, are on the armorial tablet at St Michael and All Angels Church, Steeple. The first President of the United States descended from the younger branch of [he Washington family whose arms appear on this armorial tablet.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 06:04:33 PM
Most of my family lived in Cherry Tree Avenue and The Avenue (up Lion Lane)
I was there until I was 4 and we moved to Feltham.
We used  to play football in a field in Lion Lane, the slope was about 8/10 feet (if I remember)

Familiar with all of it. I've just PM'd you
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 24, 2021, 06:13:28 PM
Mike Biereth has signed for Arsenal so that’s why he didn’t renew his contract with us then
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: St. Andrews White on July 24, 2021, 06:14:45 PM
Mike Biereth has signed for Arsenal so that’s why he didn’t renew his contract with us then
Bad news losing academy prospects like that. Do we get any compensation for his development?

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Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on July 24, 2021, 06:45:31 PM
Mike Biereth has signed for Arsenal so that’s why he didn’t renew his contract with us then

Another with bad guidance, bet he never starts for them, another waste of talent
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 24, 2021, 06:55:51 PM
Mike Biereth has signed for Arsenal so that’s why he didn’t renew his contract with us then
Bad news losing academy prospects like that. Do we get any compensation for his development?

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Yeah think so as it’s the same situation as Harvey Elliot but we’ll get about £60 compensation for him as he never made a first team appearance, even though his stats for the U18’s were insane last season
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 07:03:05 PM
I'll only be gutted once one of these players actually goes on to be a proper good player. Still yet to see it. Gutted when Patrick Roberts left, gutted when dembele left, gutted when adeniran left, gutted when sess left, gutted when Elliott left. Don't really care that much any more. I like the look of carvalho, if man Utd signed him tomorrow I'd have money on him never playing a senior game for them.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: cmg on July 24, 2021, 07:07:16 PM
Mike Biereth has signed for Arsenal so that’s why he didn’t renew his contract with us then

Another with bad guidance, bet he never starts for them, another waste of talent


Maybe.
I don't really see it as a particularly difficult decision for him. Arsenal are an attractive proposition and, even if he doesn't  come on as hoped, the money is presumably pretty good.
He was a good prospect for us and it is a pity he has moved on.
Age 18 he has played 37 times for the u18s and scored 25 goals - an excellent return for a centre-forward.
But Jay Stansfield, also 18 and a centre-forward, turned out 27 times for the u18s and scored 31. Maybe Mika thought the competition was a little too hot for him here.

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: LC on July 24, 2021, 07:10:59 PM
Wilson was on my list of players to get this summer- very happy with this signing if confirmed.

We still need a centre back, (presuming Zambo leaves) then 2 midfielders and a forward.

I think CB is one position we certainly don’t need. We currently have 8 of them!

 agreed well at least 6 depending where you class Odoi unless ive miscounted

Tosin, opuku, mawson, hector, Ream, Kongolo,


The only reliable centre back on the books is Tosin so I see what LC is saying. That said even Tosin had a wobble in the run in last season. Kongolo and Mawson are both decent but will they ever be injury free. Opoku is untried at the level so only the coaching staff know if he is ready for the Championship. If Hector can recreate his form pre-COVID, albeit he did have a decent game in the play off final he may be ok but what we saw last season was not good. Ream has some positives but there is always a mistake in his game whilst Odoi is not predominantly a centre back. Then there is Le Marchand who has been poor. I would hope from within this group Silva is able to mould a solid partnership. Think there are other areas that need addressing first but an area we would have to strengthen in the longer term.

Exactly my thoughts.

Mawson and Kongolo are unreliable and will not last the season. I like Ream but he isn’t PL quality- i hear a lot of people on here keep saying that we need to build a PL team- Ream at the age of 33 does not fit that model for me, but I would certainly keep him for the Championship. I would absolutely be looking to bring in a centre back who is capable of making the step up to the PL, I would go for someone like Helik from Bransley to start alongside Tosin.

That way you would have Tosin, Helik, Hector and Ream. That would give us strong depth. I’m basically looking to build a team to win the championship, you can’t do that without strength in depth.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 07:17:49 PM
Wilson was on my list of players to get this summer- very happy with this signing if confirmed.

We still need a centre back, (presuming Zambo leaves) then 2 midfielders and a forward.

I think CB is one position we certainly don’t need. We currently have 8 of them!

 agreed well at least 6 depending where you class Odoi unless ive miscounted

Tosin, opuku, mawson, hector, Ream, Kongolo,


The only reliable centre back on the books is Tosin so I see what LC is saying. That said even Tosin had a wobble in the run in last season. Kongolo and Mawson are both decent but will they ever be injury free. Opoku is untried at the level so only the coaching staff know if he is ready for the Championship. If Hector can recreate his form pre-COVID, albeit he did have a decent game in the play off final he may be ok but what we saw last season was not good. Ream has some positives but there is always a mistake in his game whilst Odoi is not predominantly a centre back. Then there is Le Marchand who has been poor. I would hope from within this group Silva is able to mould a solid partnership. Think there are other areas that need addressing first but an area we would have to strengthen in the longer term.

Exactly my thoughts.

Mawson and Kongolo are unreliable and will not last the season. I like Ream but he isn’t PL quality- i hear a lot of people on here keep saying that we need to build a PL team- Ream at the age of 33 does not fit that model for me, but I would certainly keep him for the Championship. I would absolutely be looking to bring in a centre back who is capable of making the step up to the PL, I would go for someone like Helik from Bransley to start alongside Tosin.

That way you would have Tosin, Helik, Hector and Ream. That would give us strong depth. I’m basically looking to build a team to win the championship, you can’t do that without strength in depth.

In my eyes Hector was bad in the prem i.e he's not up to prem standard, fact. But in the championship, he was quality. We wouldn't have got promoted without him coming in January and we probably would have got automatics of we had him at the start of the season. He wasn't AS good after covid but why does everyone keep saying he was bad? After a few bad games we went on a good run, defence was solid. He made an unbelievable tackle against Cardiff in the playoffs and then dealt with Watkins and benrahma all game in the final.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 24, 2021, 08:05:39 PM
If Gazzaniga is coming and been assured number 1 then I'm not best pleased. But if he's being brought in to compete for number 1 it's fine by me because I've seen nothing to suggest he's a better goaly than Rody. Why did spurs release him? Surely better than Joe Hart?
But Hart is a UK player which is really attractive for a sub GK. Same reason so many clubs are chasing Betts.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on July 24, 2021, 08:24:05 PM
Mike Biereth has signed for Arsenal so that’s why he didn’t renew his contract with us then
Bad news losing academy prospects like that. Do we get any compensation for his development?

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We've been linked with Reiss Nelson on a season long loan from Arsenal today, maybe this loan is linked with Biereth going
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Pluto on July 24, 2021, 08:33:46 PM
Mike Biereth has signed for Arsenal so that’s why he didn’t renew his contract with us then
Bad news losing academy prospects like that. Do we get any compensation for his development?

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We've been linked with Reiss Nelson on a season long loan from Arsenal today, maybe this loan is linked with Biereth going

Is Nelson actually any good? Seem to recall a bit of buzz about him a couple of years ago but he barely featured last season and they didn’t exactly have a deep squad.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: IloveFFC on July 24, 2021, 08:53:49 PM
Mike Biereth has signed for Arsenal so that’s why he didn’t renew his contract with us then
Bad news losing academy prospects like that. Do we get any compensation for his development?

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We've been linked with Reiss Nelson on a season long loan from Arsenal today, maybe this loan is linked with Biereth going
where do you see Reiss Nelson links?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Cravenette on July 24, 2021, 08:59:27 PM
Mike Biereth has signed for Arsenal so that’s why he didn’t renew his contract with us then
Bad news losing academy prospects like that. Do we get any compensation for his development?

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We've been linked with Reiss Nelson on a season long loan from Arsenal today, maybe this loan is linked with Biereth going

Is Nelson actually any good? Seem to recall a bit of buzz about him a couple of years ago but he barely featured last season and they didn’t exactly have a deep squad.
He is another winger. Surely if this and Wilson happens we will be off loading some of our current wingers
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 24, 2021, 09:02:34 PM
In my eyes Hector was bad in the prem i.e he's not up to prem standard, fact. But in the championship, he was quality. We wouldn't have got promoted without him coming in January and we probably would have got automatics of we had him at the start of the season. He wasn't AS good after covid but why does everyone keep saying he was bad? After a few bad games we went on a good run, defence was solid. He made an unbelievable tackle against Cardiff in the playoffs and then dealt with Watkins and benrahma all game in the final.

Agree with all this except the first sentence about him in the PL. He played 3 games so remains substantially untested at that level. If Tosin has played in those first few games with Rodak and Ream instead of Areola and Anderson he would have looked equally clueless, "fact".
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: MickTheBeard on July 24, 2021, 09:12:22 PM
I’ve noticed we have started intergrated youth players earlier which is a good sign to late for Milan.The sad thing and I have seen him play he is better than Bowie and we paid money for him.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: MickTheBeard on July 24, 2021, 09:14:42 PM
I ment mika
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: spikey norman on July 24, 2021, 09:29:24 PM
Looks like Anderson might be joining Palace
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 09:40:53 PM
Looks like Anderson might be joining Palace

Tell me you're jokin?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JEEVES on July 24, 2021, 09:43:03 PM
In my eyes Hector was bad in the prem i.e he's not up to prem standard, fact. But in the championship, he was quality. We wouldn't have got promoted without him coming in January and we probably would have got automatics of we had him at the start of the season. He wasn't AS good after covid but why does everyone keep saying he was bad? After a few bad games we went on a good run, defence was solid. He made an unbelievable tackle against Cardiff in the playoffs and then dealt with Watkins and benrahma all game in the final.

Agree with all this except the first sentence about him in the PL. He played 3 games so remains substantially untested at that level. If Tosin has played in those first few games with Rodak and Ream instead of Areola and Anderson he would have looked equally clueless, "fact".

I actually agree with the majority of the stuff you say. You're right he didn't really get a fair crack but.. That Brentford cup game.. That did it for me.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: spikey norman on July 24, 2021, 09:47:35 PM
Looks like Anderson might be joining Palace

Tell me you're jokin?

Mail on line reporting that Palace have moved above Spurs in race to sign Anderson for £20 million
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 24, 2021, 10:03:57 PM
Wilson and Gazzaniga both now confirmed by the club
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 24, 2021, 10:11:48 PM
Wilson and Gazzaniga both now confirmed by the club
Wilson will start but who will start as our No. 1 Keeper?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 24, 2021, 11:08:25 PM
Like Wilson and Gazz   

Seems fairly universal that on paper they should be part of a team that can challenge.
Would like Nielsen aswell so we can move on one of Knockaert, Cav or Kebano

Then I'd love a quality AM in case Tom cant stay fit and a striker and I'd say that's business done

Perhaps Fabio can step up to the plate though. Would be great for one of the youth to push on ala Sess... maybe even some Stansfield off the bench!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2021, 11:29:37 AM
Palace pal of mine is suggesting that they are sniffing around Zambo, as well as well down the track with the signing of Andersen.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: I Ronic on July 25, 2021, 12:04:30 PM
For those interested in FFP, found this on the BBC in an article about Harry Kane's possible move to City.

City are one of the few clubs who do have some flexibility with their spending, with their financial muscle having shielded them from the worst of the pandemic.

And if you're wondering about the impact of Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules, Uefa has already decided financial statements for 2020 and 2021 will be rolled up into a single accounting period because of the huge impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 25, 2021, 12:15:06 PM
Silva talking about "competition for places", how important it was to have more than one player in a position and how we are looking to sign more players in the post Southampton video would suggest that we are looking to sign a striker, would be encouraging for the Muniz rumours. Muniz seems to be in a fairly similar mould to Mitro.

Hope it also means that Gazzaniga isn't signed as a guaranteed starter over Rodak.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: JimOG on July 25, 2021, 12:15:25 PM
For those interested in FFP, found this on the BBC in an article about Harry Kane's possible move to City.

City are one of the few clubs who do have some flexibility with their spending, with their financial muscle having shielded them from the worst of the pandemic.

And if you're wondering about the impact of Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules, Uefa has already decided financial statements for 2020 and 2021 will be rolled up into a single accounting period because of the huge impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

with what impact on us would you say?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 25, 2021, 12:19:15 PM
The body governing our FFP woes would be the EFL, not UEFA, so it doesn't have much to do with us.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Riversider on July 25, 2021, 08:35:33 PM
Daily Mail reporting that Matt Grimes is on his way this week, clears the way I guess for the elusive Harrison Reed to sadly move on .
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 25, 2021, 08:39:07 PM
Daily Mail reporting that Matt Grimes is on his way this week, clears the way I guess for the elusive Harrison Reed to sadly move on .

Not really, two different sort of players and we’re already short of numbers there so no way we let two CM’s (including our best one) leave in a week and only bring one in
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 25, 2021, 09:08:11 PM
Daily Mail reporting that Matt Grimes is on his way this week, clears the way I guess for the elusive Harrison Reed to sadly move on .

Grimes will be the johansen repalcement. I still expect Zambo to go. Reed is not fit yet either which will stop any move away
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 25, 2021, 09:30:33 PM
WSW do you know if there is any truth in the rumour that Rodak has asked to leave eon loan or permanently? Mate of mine said he had heard he was being linked to Cardiff, dont get me wrong not sure how he would now as he has no links to FFC and is a Forest fan
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 25, 2021, 09:31:53 PM
WSW do you know if there is any truth in the rumour that Rodak has asked to leave eon loan or permanently? Mate of mine said he had heard he was being linked to Cardiff, dont get me wrong not sure how he would now as he has no links to FFC and is a Forest fan

Not heard that, I’ll try and find out. Seems Cardiff would an odd one as they have Alex Smithies. I’ll try and find out
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 25, 2021, 09:41:05 PM
WSW do you know if there is any truth in the rumour that Rodak has asked to leave eon loan or permanently? Mate of mine said he had heard he was being linked to Cardiff, dont get me wrong not sure how he would now as he has no links to FFC and is a Forest fan

Neither of my mates that give me info have heard that one….apparently he’s relishing the challenge with Gazzaniga
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 25, 2021, 10:00:09 PM
WSW do you know if there is any truth in the rumour that Rodak has asked to leave eon loan or permanently? Mate of mine said he had heard he was being linked to Cardiff, dont get me wrong not sure how he would now as he has no links to FFC and is a Forest fan

Neither of my mates that give me info have heard that one….apparently he’s relishing the challenge with Gazzaniga
Cool thanks
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on July 25, 2021, 11:00:45 PM
Wsw .not asking you to name names and i understand that you are putting you hand out to be slapped (so to speak)but from what you know is there anyting else in the pipeline or close ,even just position wise can you tell us
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 25, 2021, 11:14:09 PM
Wsw .not asking you to name names and i understand that you are putting you hand out to be slapped (so to speak)but from what you know is there anyting else in the pipeline or close ,even just position wise can you tell us

1 possibly outgoing I have heard is that Palace MAY be lining a bid up for Anguissa. We are Likely to have a bid for a  back up striker in in next few days too but cannot give name currently as I haven’t been told it yet. Then the only incomings I would expect are to replace significant outgoings, Silva happy we only need 4 players currently.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rock on July 26, 2021, 02:43:32 AM
“LEMINA LEAVES SOUTHAMPTON

Mario Lemina has joined Ligue 1 side Nice from Southampton.

The Gabon international was a big money signing for the Saints in 2017, but spent last season on loan at Fulham.”

I was a bigger fan of Lamina than most, and am sad we weren’t able to keep him. Glad he’s gone to a Nice club 😉

In the words of that Morgana show douchey fellow “adios amigo”.

I liked Lemina tbh, and more so if we had a loan with a view to sign. But he was no Moussa Dembele. Next.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RaySmith on July 26, 2021, 07:06:40 AM
“LEMINA LEAVES SOUTHAMPTON

Mario Lemina has joined Ligue 1 side Nice from Southampton.

The Gabon international was a big money signing for the Saints in 2017, but spent last season on loan at Fulham.”

I was a bigger fan of Lamina than most, and am sad we weren’t able to keep him. Glad he’s gone to a Nice club 😉

In the words of that Morgana show douchey fellow “adios amigo”.

I liked Lemina tbh, and more so if we had a loan with a view to sign. But he was no Moussa Dembele. Next.

I liked him, pity we couldn't keep him, thought he always put in a good effort, with a good level of skill.

As for Zambo, i feel he is a bit of an enigma. He does have a languid style, which is probably deceptive.
Obviously had great natural talent, like RLC perhaps (!), but did he bust a gut in games when we needed every player to  bust a gut? in the way that Reed obviously did.

Though could be lot to do with our style of play, and the quality of the prem opposition.

The feeling seems to be that he will leave anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: 70sPimlico on July 26, 2021, 07:56:08 AM
“LEMINA LEAVES SOUTHAMPTON

Mario Lemina has joined Ligue 1 side Nice from Southampton.

The Gabon international was a big money signing for the Saints in 2017, but spent last season on loan at Fulham.”

I was a bigger fan of Lamina than most, and am sad we weren’t able to keep him. Glad he’s gone to a Nice club 😉

In the words of that Morgana show douchey fellow “adios amigo”.

I liked Lemina tbh, and more so if we had a loan with a view to sign. But he was no Moussa Dembele. Next.

I liked him, pity we couldn't keep him, thought he always put in a good effort, with a good level of skill.

As for Zambo, i feel he is a bit of an enigma. He does have a languid style, which is probably deceptive.
but did he bust a gut in games when we needed every player to  bust a gut? in the way that Reed obviously did.


Well, I watched him play and I don't get the "he don't like it up em" type posts. I saw a player tracking back and winning possession. just checked the stats, which are readily available and on a per match basis, Zambo performs better than Reed on (tackles won, loose balls won, aerial duels won, blocks, interceptions)
Now, on top of that he has pretty stunning attacking stats. I guess we will lose him and we will be a weaker team because of it. If some of you judge a player on how he holds himself and runs round the pitch shaking his fist and geeing up the crowd, then you're going to be up in arms with Harry Wilson. God, what will you think of him?

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on July 26, 2021, 08:15:55 AM
“LEMINA LEAVES SOUTHAMPTON

Mario Lemina has joined Ligue 1 side Nice from Southampton.

The Gabon international was a big money signing for the Saints in 2017, but spent last season on loan at Fulham.”

I was a bigger fan of Lamina than most, and am sad we weren’t able to keep him. Glad he’s gone to a Nice club 😉

In the words of that Morgana show douchey fellow “adios amigo”.

I liked Lemina tbh, and more so if we had a loan with a view to sign. But he was no Moussa Dembele. Next.

I liked him, pity we couldn't keep him, thought he always put in a good effort, with a good level of skill.

As for Zambo, i feel he is a bit of an enigma. He does have a languid style, which is probably deceptive.
but did he bust a gut in games when we needed every player to  bust a gut? in the way that Reed obviously did.


Well, I watched him play and I don't get the "he don't like it up em" type posts. I saw a player tracking back and winning possession. just checked the stats, which are readily available and on a per match basis, Zambo performs better than Reed on (tackles won, loose balls won, aerial duels won, blocks, interceptions)
Now, on top of that he has pretty stunning attacking stats. I guess we will lose him and we will be a weaker team because of it. If some of you judge a player on how he holds himself and runs round the pitch shaking his fist and geeing up the crowd, then you're going to be up in arms with Harry Wilson. God, what will you think of him?

I think with Zambo, even for his good qualities and impact, there is often a sense of how much more he could achieve. With Reed, you get the feeling he squeezes every ounce of impact he's capable of out of himself. The other real regret with Zambo is there is not enough end product. When he's on form, he uses his body incredibly well to win back possession, hold off players, take the ball and team up the pitch, but there are not enough goals and assists.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RaySmith on July 26, 2021, 09:31:01 AM
“LEMINA LEAVES SOUTHAMPTON

Mario Lemina has joined Ligue 1 side Nice from Southampton.

The Gabon international was a big money signing for the Saints in 2017, but spent last season on loan at Fulham.”

I was a bigger fan of Lamina than most, and am sad we weren’t able to keep him. Glad he’s gone to a Nice club 😉

In the words of that Morgana show douchey fellow “adios amigo”.

I liked Lemina tbh, and more so if we had a loan with a view to sign. But he was no Moussa Dembele. Next.

I liked him, pity we couldn't keep him, thought he always put in a good effort, with a good level of skill.

As for Zambo, i feel he is a bit of an enigma. He does have a languid style, which is probably deceptive.
but did he bust a gut in games when we needed every player to  bust a gut? in the way that Reed obviously did.


Well, I watched him play and I don't get the "he don't like it up em" type posts. I saw a player tracking back and winning possession. just checked the stats, which are readily available and on a per match basis, Zambo performs better than Reed on (tackles won, loose balls won, aerial duels won, blocks, interceptions)
Now, on top of that he has pretty stunning attacking stats. I guess we will lose him and we will be a weaker team because of it. If some of you judge a player on how he holds himself and runs round the pitch shaking his fist and geeing up the crowd, then you're going to be up in arms with Harry Wilson. God, what will you think of him?



Obviously a different type of player to Reed, but
“LEMINA LEAVES SOUTHAMPTON

Mario Lemina has joined Ligue 1 side Nice from Southampton.

The Gabon international was a big money signing for the Saints in 2017, but spent last season on loan at Fulham.”

I was a bigger fan of Lamina than most, and am sad we weren’t able to keep him. Glad he’s gone to a Nice club 😉

In the words of that Morgana show douchey fellow “adios amigo”.

I liked Lemina tbh, and more so if we had a loan with a view to sign. But he was no Moussa Dembele. Next.

I liked him, pity we couldn't keep him, thought he always put in a good effort, with a good level of skill.

As for Zambo, i feel he is a bit of an enigma. He does have a languid style, which is probably deceptive.
but did he bust a gut in games when we needed every player to  bust a gut? in the way that Reed obviously did.


Well, I watched him play and I don't get the "he don't like it up em" type posts. I saw a player tracking back and winning possession. just checked the stats, which are readily available and on a per match basis, Zambo performs better than Reed on (tackles won, loose balls won, aerial duels won, blocks, interceptions)
Now, on top of that he has pretty stunning attacking stats. I guess we will lose him and we will be a weaker team because of it. If some of you judge a player on how he holds himself and runs round the pitch shaking his fist and geeing up the crowd, then you're going to be up in arms with Harry Wilson. God, what will you think of him?

I think with Zambo, even for his good qualities and impact, there is often a sense of how much more he could achieve. With Reed, you get the feeling he squeezes every ounce of impact he's capable of out of himself. The other real regret with Zambo is there is not enough end product. When he's on form, he uses his body incredibly well to win back possession, hold off players, take the ball and team up the pitch, but there are not enough goals and assists.

Exactly - I was making a point that he maybe didn't live up to to his obvious  potential, like RLC, whom I often defended on here.

I did say that appearances could be deceptive, and i was going to speak of a home game, though i couldn't remember the opponent -but it was home to Everton - when Anguissa and RLC seemed to take over the game in the second half, powering a great attacking display, where RLC scored, and we nearly  got a point, but sadly we didn't see that again, certainly from RLC.

Similar to Seri, at home to Brighton , when he helped along with Cairney, us to win a game in which we were two down at half -time. But we didn't see that level of performance again from Seri for whatver reason. Obviously, he has potential though.

But Anguissa was a lot more successful for us in the Prem than  Seri, but we, sadly didn't see the  outcome from his in terms of goals, though he often got himself in in great positrons, like RLC, and like all our forwards.

Shouting, and working hard,' busting a gut' for the team, like Reed, doesn't  necessarily mean a good player, but maybe shows a level of commitment rather than just a  being a solid professional.
Though, appearances can be deceptive, which was partly my point, and i do agree that  fans  can't always tell how committed a player is - most of them actually  do their best.

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 26, 2021, 09:35:03 AM
Arter is a prime example of a player that gets overrated because he looks like he is working hard. Johansen getting dropped for him was a big slap in the face.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RaySmith on July 26, 2021, 09:41:48 AM
Arter is a prime example of a player that gets overrated because he looks like he is working hard. Johansen getting dropped for him was a big slap in the face.

Johansen was also that type of player too wasn't he? and obviously di a great job for Fulham.

I liked Arter too, with his  commitment and aggression, and thought much of the criticism was undeserved.
You could say that Kamara is similar - wears his heart on his sleeve, and Reed too, one of our most effective players last season.

You need those types of players in your team, as well as the more  thoughtful types, like Cairney .

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on July 26, 2021, 10:24:33 AM
Arter is a prime example of a player that gets overrated because he looks like he is working hard. Johansen getting dropped for him was a big slap in the face.

Johansen was also that type of player too wasn't he? and obviously di a great job for Fulham.

I liked Arter too, with his  commitment and aggression, and thought much of the criticism was undeserved.
You could say that Kamara is similar - wears his heart on his sleeve, and Reed too, one of our most effective players last season.

You need those types of players in your team, as well as the more  thoughtful types, like Cairney .



Johansen is the better technical player out of him and Arter, better passing and more creative.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FFC In Oz on July 26, 2021, 10:29:36 AM
Arter is a prime example of a player that gets overrated because he looks like he is working hard. Johansen getting dropped for him was a big slap in the face.

Johansen was also that type of player too wasn't he? and obviously di a great job for Fulham.

I liked Arter too, with his  commitment and aggression, and thought much of the criticism was undeserved.
You could say that Kamara is similar - wears his heart on his sleeve, and Reed too, one of our most effective players last season.

You need those types of players in your team, as well as the more  thoughtful types, like Cairney .



Johansen is the better technical player out of him and Arter, better passing and more creative.

StefJo also a goal threat from midfield too.  Had a knack of timing his runs in to the box.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 26, 2021, 12:22:22 PM
Arter is a prime example of a player that gets overrated because he looks like he is working hard. Johansen getting dropped for him was a big slap in the face.

Agreed and I actually would say at times Reed has been over-egged on the same basis. Although I do accept he has become a very good player now
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on July 26, 2021, 03:50:06 PM
Kamara’s 4£mill to aris salonika has broken down.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 26, 2021, 03:58:13 PM
Kamara’s 4£mill to aris salonika has broken down.

Interesting that it seems hes on the way out though. Clearly Silva not impressed
Could have been linking up with none other than Kostas Mitroglue there! ha

IF we do get grimes it seems one of his main tricks in his arsenal is the long crossfield ball out wild. Looks like the Deep lying creative player who plays along the more Dogged CDM whilst still being fairly robust there himself. Loves to ping a ball out wide and move the attack forward quicker from deep so I suspect the wings are gonna see plemty of action this season. Sensible given Mitro seems to have the most success when we get to the byline with our wingers/fullbacks
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mullers OG on July 26, 2021, 04:30:27 PM
£4 million for Kamara?  Not surprised that transfer has fallen through. Grossly overpriced. Still it looks as if the club has decided to move him on.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Lordedmundo on July 26, 2021, 05:21:10 PM
£4 million for Kamara?  Not surprised that transfer has fallen through. Grossly overpriced. Still it looks as if the club has decided to move him on.

He is probably worth £2m tops.  In all honesty I don't think Aris Thessaloniki offered anything near £4m for him. Their record transfer fee is £1.17m, second highest £900k and third highest £612k (according to Transfermarkt)!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 26, 2021, 05:27:33 PM
Kamara’s 4£mill to aris salonika has broken down.

Interesting that it seems hes on the way out though. Clearly Silva not impressed
Could have been linking up with none other than Kostas Mitroglue there! ha

IF we do get grimes it seems one of his main tricks in his arsenal is the long crossfield ball out wild. Looks like the Deep lying creative player who plays along the more Dogged CDM whilst still being fairly robust there himself. Loves to ping a ball out wide and move the attack forward quicker from deep so I suspect the wings are gonna see plemty of action this season. Sensible given Mitro seems to have the most success when we get to the byline with our wingers/fullbacks
We need the money if the FFP numbers bandied about are to be believed, he has feature din pore season think he scored as well. So not sure if Silva isn’t impressed but wants funds for elsewhere. Look at Wilson that now seems to be a loan with an obligation to buy rather than a straight buy so we must be pretty tight financially
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Caedal on July 26, 2021, 06:41:51 PM
The FFP numbers that keep being quoted are for the season PRIOR to our premier league season. Last year we earn at least £130m from TV deals alone. Plus prize money. Plus parachute payments. There is no way we’re in any danger FFP wise
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 26, 2021, 08:35:37 PM
The FFP numbers that keep being quoted are for the season PRIOR to our premier league season. Last year we earn at least £130m from TV deals alone. Plus prize money. Plus parachute payments. There is no way we’re in any danger FFP wise
If thats the case then fine but I am not sure it is, especially if we look ahead and say we do not go up this season
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2021, 08:36:25 PM
The FFP numbers that keep being quoted are for the season PRIOR to our premier league season. Last year we earn at least £130m from TV deals alone. Plus prize money. Plus parachute payments. There is no way we’re in any danger FFP wise



Guessing you haven't heard the podcast? Hope FoF mods don't mind? It'll explain why you are wrong there & why we are perilously close to the limit, hence the "creative" way we're going about recruitment.  Bloke is a good pal of mine & knows FFP inside out
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Twig on July 26, 2021, 08:40:43 PM
The FFP numbers that keep being quoted are for the season PRIOR to our premier league season. Last year we earn at least £130m from TV deals alone. Plus prize money. Plus parachute payments. There is no way we’re in any danger FFP wise



Guessing you haven't heard the podcast? Hope FoF mods don't mind? It'll explain why you are wrong there & why we are perilously close to the limit, hence the "creative" way we're going about recruitment.  Bloke is a good pal of mine & knows FFP inside out

Yep, it’s detailed and compelling.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: RaySmith on July 26, 2021, 09:48:45 PM
Arter is a prime example of a player that gets overrated because he looks like he is working hard. Johansen getting dropped for him was a big slap in the face.

Agreed and I actually would say at times Reed has been over-egged on the same basis. Although I do accept he has become a very good player now

I didn't say that I thought Arter was better than Johansen - I don't think that, and don't know why he was dropped, maybe injury?

My memory is that fans  didn't rate Arter, certainly on here, though I admired his attitude and commitment, and also remember a couple of great goals, but I was certainly in a minority saying that.

Reed arouses similar  conflicting opinions, but I thought he played an essential role in the team, with his attitude and hard work, and putting in the tackles, just as Johansen used to, though not comparing him!

I didn't say that Anguissa wasn't a very good player either - just that he could appear deceptively languid, and also maybe didn't fulfil his potential, though i did say that this could be to do with the team set up, and playing for Fulham  against Prem quality players - which you could say about all the Fulham players maybe.

Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Statto on July 26, 2021, 10:00:12 PM
Why is us being close to the FFP limit always expressed with surprise and concern? We've got a multibillionaire owner who's trying to get us into the PL. We always have, will and should be spending as much as we can right up to that limit.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 26, 2021, 11:24:22 PM
2nd bid, a loan with obligation to buy will be going in for Muniz imminently according to the Brazilian journalist that broke the first story
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on July 26, 2021, 11:29:06 PM
2nd bid, a loan with obligation to buy will be going in for Muniz imminently according to the Brazilian journalist that broke the first story

Don’t know much about him- but I welcome a risky young striker vs a dwight gayle type
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 27, 2021, 12:03:52 AM
2nd bid, a loan with obligation to buy will be going in for Muniz imminently according to the Brazilian journalist that broke the first story

Don’t know much about him- but I welcome a risky young striker vs a dwight gayle type

Looks like Boro are also after him, I would hope Silva’s pulling power and greater wages might sway him towards us
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on July 27, 2021, 12:10:38 AM
£4 million for Kamara?  Not surprised that transfer has fallen through. Grossly overpriced. Still it looks as if the club has decided to move him on.

He is probably worth £2m tops.  In all honesty I don't think Aris Thessaloniki offered anything near £4m for him. Their record transfer fee is £1.17m, second highest £900k and third highest £612k (according to Transfermarkt)!

Sounds like they've switched targets and are now pursuing Newcastle's Muto.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 27, 2021, 02:15:52 AM
If we want him and can afford him,well get him

No way boro land him if it's a straight choice between the two.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on July 27, 2021, 07:54:49 AM
If we want him and can afford him,well get him

No way boro land him if it's a straight choice between the two.

Boro do have a strong Brazilian history with their mid to late 90s team of Juninho, Emerson and Branco. Have we ever had a Brazilian in our squad? I can't think of any, but I could be wrong. But if you take that factor away, it should be an easy decision for him. The real question is whether he's up to it.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: deadcowboys on July 27, 2021, 08:18:06 AM
If we want him and can afford him,well get him

No way boro land him if it's a straight choice between the two.

Boro do have a strong Brazilian history with their mid to late 90s team of Juninho, Emerson and Branco. Have we ever had a Brazilian in our squad? I can't think of any, but I could be wrong. But if you take that factor away, it should be an easy decision for him. The real question is whether he's up to it.

Have you forgotten Lucas Piazon already? At a pinch you could get away with Gary Brazil too.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 27, 2021, 08:25:36 AM
If we want him and can afford him,well get him

No way boro land him if it's a straight choice between the two.

Boro do have a strong Brazilian history with their mid to late 90s team of Juninho, Emerson and Branco. Have we ever had a Brazilian in our squad? I can't think of any, but I could be wrong. But if you take that factor away, it should be an easy decision for him. The real question is whether he's up to it.

I think the biggest Pull for us will be Marco Silva. Having a native Portuguese speaking coaching staff will really help him settle
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Danitar on July 27, 2021, 08:28:04 AM
If we want him and can afford him,well get him

No way boro land him if it's a straight choice between the two.

Boro do have a strong Brazilian history with their mid to late 90s team of Juninho, Emerson and Branco. Have we ever had a Brazilian in our squad? I can't think of any, but I could be wrong. But if you take that factor away, it should be an easy decision for him. The real question is whether he's up to it.

I think the biggest Pull for us will be Marco Silva. Having a native Portuguese speaking coaching staff will really help him settle

Would you go to boro and be shouted at every 2 minutes by Colin, at least Marco looks like he can talk to people
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bencher on July 27, 2021, 08:45:39 AM
If we want him and can afford him,well get him

No way boro land him if it's a straight choice between the two.

Boro do have a strong Brazilian history with their mid to late 90s team of Juninho, Emerson and Branco. Have we ever had a Brazilian in our squad? I can't think of any, but I could be wrong. But if you take that factor away, it should be an easy decision for him. The real question is whether he's up to it.

Have you forgotten Lucas Piazon already? At a pinch you could get away with Gary Brazil too.

Ooof. Lucas. I liked him for us quite a bit. One of those players that looked harmless and then popped up with a goal.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: grandad on July 27, 2021, 10:02:49 AM
I would have thought Andersen could have done better than go to Palace if it happens. They are hardly likely to get a CL or Europa spot. I wish he had decided to stay with us.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: jayffc on July 27, 2021, 10:22:27 AM
I would have thought Andersen could have done better than go to Palace if it happens. They are hardly likely to get a CL or Europa spot. I wish he had decided to stay with us.

His plan is to go to palace, they get relegated despite having a good defence again...and we swoop in for him then. Genius!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jeroen on July 27, 2021, 10:26:13 AM
I would have thought Andersen could have done better than go to Palace if it happens. They are hardly likely to get a CL or Europa spot. I wish he had decided to stay with us.

His plan is to go to palace, they get relegated despite having a good defence again...and we swoop in for him then. Genius!

Was thinking the same - Like a £7M relegation clause in his contract and happy days :-)
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 27, 2021, 02:43:54 PM
Bordeaux making a loan offer for Antonee Robinson according to RMC (french radio station).
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on July 27, 2021, 03:21:24 PM
Bordeaux making a loan offer for Antonee Robinson according to RMC (french radio station).

They can sod off with that. We need to keep Robinson.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Deeping_white on July 27, 2021, 03:26:04 PM
Bordeaux making a loan offer for Antonee Robinson according to RMC (french radio station).

Seem to remember we made an offer for a left back of theirs a few years ago and they pretended they didn't get the offer so as to block the transfer. I think revenge is in order.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Whitestone on July 27, 2021, 03:44:46 PM
Bordeaux making a loan offer for Antonee Robinson according to RMC (french radio station).

I’m not sure how a loan offer benefits us because as I understand things cash is tight due to FFP. Think we really need to sell players. Not necessarily Robinson though, although if that were the case we are fortunate to have Joe Bryan.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 27, 2021, 04:06:12 PM
I would have thought Andersen could have done better than go to Palace if it happens. They are hardly likely to get a CL or Europa spot. I wish he had decided to stay with us.

Could be possible that the only Premier League offer he got was from Palace and maybe he only wanted a London club as he may have got the flavour of London life.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: paulbrookersmazydribbles on July 27, 2021, 04:16:34 PM
Dijon in for Le Marchand apparently

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/dijon-targeting-le-marchand-deal/
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Twig on July 27, 2021, 04:34:13 PM
Dijon in for Le Marchand apparently

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/dijon-targeting-le-marchand-deal/

Let’s hope it goes through ok
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Texas White on July 27, 2021, 04:45:30 PM
Dijon in for Le Marchand apparently

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/dijon-targeting-le-marchand-deal/

Let’s hope it goes through ok

No need for that. Best of luck to him
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 27, 2021, 04:51:45 PM
Bordeaux making a loan offer for Antonee Robinson according to RMC (french radio station).

They can sod off with that. We need to keep Robinson.
Agree, no way should we loan Robinson. If they want him it's a £15m transfer or don't waste our time.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Jules on July 27, 2021, 04:56:17 PM
Dijon in for Le Marchand apparently

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/dijon-targeting-le-marchand-deal/

Let’s hope it goes through ok
Great! Let him go. Thanks for the service, goodbye and good luck!
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 27, 2021, 05:05:03 PM
Dijon in for Le Marchand apparently

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/dijon-targeting-le-marchand-deal/

That will be mustard for Le mar chand  :Get Coat gif:
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sunburywhite on July 27, 2021, 05:06:17 PM
Dijon in for Le Marchand apparently

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/dijon-targeting-le-marchand-deal/

They obviously think he is mustard
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: FFC In Oz on July 27, 2021, 05:37:18 PM
Dijon in for Le Marchand apparently

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/dijon-targeting-le-marchand-deal/

They obviously think he is mustard

Apparently their manager is quite keen on him
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: sunburywhite on July 27, 2021, 06:00:39 PM
Dijon in for Le Marchand apparently

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/dijon-targeting-le-marchand-deal/

They obviously think he is mustard

Apparently their manager is quite keen on him

Is their manager Chris Colman
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 27, 2021, 06:05:12 PM
Muniz is making a decision tonight about his future
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Blawarmy on July 27, 2021, 06:06:14 PM
Dijon in for Le Marchand apparently

https://hammyend.com/index.php/2021/07/dijon-targeting-le-marchand-deal/
Dont they want AK back?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: bobby01 on July 27, 2021, 06:17:28 PM
Opuko, gone to vilje in the danish super league, season loan
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: BarryP on July 27, 2021, 07:21:04 PM
Opuko, gone to vilje in the danish super league, season loan

Good for him
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: The Rock on July 27, 2021, 07:23:01 PM
Muniz is making a decision tonight about his future

Worried if we can't table something close to the proper up front bid they want that we aren't in the cards as an option for his future. Thanks again for keeping us posted.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: MickeyAdamsFamily on July 27, 2021, 07:27:52 PM
If Silva believes in Muniz, wants him at the club and has convinced him to want to join Fulham, then TK & co have to figure out a way to close the deal & get him onboard.
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: junior white on July 27, 2021, 07:34:46 PM
Lets hope FFP isnt as bad as people are saying then
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: WestSussexWhite on July 27, 2021, 07:46:56 PM
If Silva believes in Muniz, wants him at the club and has convinced him to want to join Fulham, then TK & co have to figure out a way to close the deal & get him onboard.

Agreed, Although I’ve just got a gut feeling he will go to Boro. They have sent delegates to meet his agent in person, whereas we haven’t and that could make all the difference
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: MickeyAdamsFamily on July 27, 2021, 07:52:10 PM
I think that the FFP calculations aren’t done in real time, such that if we put up some funds now, say for Muniz, we’d still have some time to locate revenue to offset it, through various possible sources (obviously including player sales). Ultimately, we may have to sell in order to buy, but I’m not sure it has to happen in that order, just by year end. There are also other possible sources of new monies, like potentially naming rights for the new Riverside Stand, and the massive billboard that is the roof there, which will be in every aerial shot and also very clearly visible from every airplane approaching Heathrow. It may be tacky, but no one seems to question that Arsenal plays at “The Emirates” stadium. How much was that sponsorship worth?
Title: Re: The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22
Post by: Tabby on July 27, 2021, 10:46:43 PM
If Silva believes in Muniz, wants him at the club and has convinced him to want to join Fulham, then TK & co have to figure out a way to close the deal & get him onboard.

Agreed,