Just watched 90 minute replay, he offers absolutely nothing and there is no chance to get him sold on nobody wants him,shame he got us promoted two seasons ago.
He's just not that effective anymore, not sure what's happened to him.
He just doesn't really have any positive impact on the game, his hold up play has abandoned him it feels like which is his main strength.
The crosses coming in will benefit him though so fingers crossed he comes good. That said, if someone offered £20m for him, I'd be tempted.
EDIT: I'm an idiot.
I'll have two of whatever it is you guys are drinking. We turned DOWN a £16m bid for him. Nothing else to add really, let's see how he performs over the next few matches and I think you will end up eating your words.
I didn't rate his performance, but it's one game this season. Let's calm down a little.
It's one thing to criticise a performance, it's another to completely write someone off. He's been suspect for a while now, I admit, but championship should be his bread and butter, particularly in a team as good as ours. If after 8-10 games, he's not scoring goals, the writings on the wall and he'll need some help in the goals department from elsewhere.
Give him the service - he'll get goals....once he gets goals, his hold up play will improve.....he probably needs half a dozen game's to settle in again
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on August 10, 2021, 02:48:31 PM
Give him the service - he'll get goals....once he gets goals, his hold up play will improve.....he probably needs half a dozen game's to settle in again
I'd argue he's had some service and he's not finishing or getting himself in the right positions enough to get those chances but we'll see I guess.
He was dropped for half of last season and whenever he did play, he had literally zero service; owing to Parker's fixation with rolling the ball sideways in our own half. The season before he won the golden boot, and so I think it's a bit premature to be judging him after just one game under Silva. He'll get 20+ goals assuming he stays fit....
Time will tell and how long do you wait as this has been ongoing for quite a long time.
The other concerns for me is that he never seems to create space for himself or for any of the other players.
There seems to be no attempt to drag defenders out of position, he seems even more static than ever.
Nevertheless, there are another 45 matches to go so he has the opportunity to bounce back, but currently he is more a passenger and he shouldn't be if Fulham have aspirations to challenge for promotion. It is a bit of a mystery how he has lost his timing and first touch as well as opposing defenders dealing with any threat he posses by neutralising him.
Since he missed that penalty against Scotland it's destroyed him
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 10, 2021, 02:29:09 PM
Just watched 90 minute replay, he offers absolutely nothing and there is no chance to get him sold on nobody wants him,shame he got us promoted two seasons ago.
"Offers absolutely nothing"... "nobody wants him".
Is this fishing for responses?
I agree he's out of form at the moment, but he is by no means a lost cause. The statements made are unwarranted in my opinion.
Mitro will come good. He has been poor for quite a while ,but he will turn it around.
Quote from: colinwhite on August 10, 2021, 03:27:08 PM
Mitro will come good. He has been poor for quite a while ,but he will turn it around.
This. And if it doesn't, it sounds like we have a new striker incoming. Personally, I think a part of fulham's downfall over recent years has always been the lack of options up top. SO would be nice to see 2-3 options up front.
I personally feel the whole 'zero service' thing is wearing a bit thin. Yes, many times last season we failed to create a lot for him, but that was not true for 100% of the season. I feel that the reason is he is suddenly lacking that little bit of endeavour he once had, for one reason or another. There have been many times since his dip in form whereby because a ball has not been planted directly in the centre of his forehead or directly to his feet, he fails to even make an attempt at it.
He has never been the quickest but that would be fine if he could still hold the ball up, but even then I feel he has been poor with the ball at his feet and has given away possession a fair bit.
However, he has scored a bundle of goals in both our recent Championship campaigns and I wouldn't write him off, but it seems Silva has a bit of work to help him rediscover what it was he has seemingly lost.
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 10, 2021, 03:31:04 PM
I personally feel the whole 'zero service' thing is wearing a bit thin. Yes, many times last season we failed to create a lot for him, but that was not true for 100% of the season. I feel that the reason is he is suddenly lacking that little bit of endeavour he once had, for one reason or another. There have been many times since his dip in form whereby because a ball has not been planted directly in the centre of his forehead or directly to his feet, he fails to even make an attempt at it.
He has never been the quickest but that would be fine if he could still hold the ball up, but even then I feel he has been poor with the ball at his feet and has given away possession a fair bit.
However, he has scored a bundle of goals in both our recent Championship campaigns and I wouldn't write him off, but it seems Silva has a bit of work to help him rediscover what it was he has seemingly lost.
This is exactly how I see it. The good news is that he does appear to have lost a lot of weight. So, with a new manager (who supposedly rates him highly) - he will surely be supported in trying to get back to his best form. My worry is that he is way off at the moment - and if we keep failing to kill teams off, then our automatic promotion aspirations will be in jeopardy...
We know he can do the job, so it must be worth Silva working with him to get back to old form.Confidence will play a part, maybe once the first goal goes in he'll storm it. I really hope so.
A genuine competition for the striker spot hopefully will provide more ammunizion up front.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 10, 2021, 02:59:53 PM
Time will tell and how long do you wait as this has been ongoing for quite a long time.
The other concerns for me is that he never seems to create space for himself or for any of the other players.
There seems to be no attempt to drag defenders out of position, he seems even more static than ever.
Nevertheless, there are another 45 matches to go so he has the opportunity to bounce back, but currently he is more a passenger and he shouldn't be if Fulham have aspirations to challenge for promotion. It is a bit of a mystery how he has lost his timing and first touch as well as opposing defenders dealing with any threat he posses by neutralising him.
Spot on to what I was going to type.
Quote from: Blawarmy on August 10, 2021, 03:08:26 PM
Since he missed that penalty against Scotland it's destroyed him
That is understandable.
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PARKER destroyed him he went away for Serbia and scored a few crakers then came back scored against villa to put us 1 up and then parker dropped him again
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on August 10, 2021, 02:48:31 PM
Give him the service - he'll get goals....once he gets goals, his hold up play will improve.....he probably needs half a dozen game's to settle in again
+1 , his opportunities were few and far between and with mitro you've always got the possibility of scoring, he may in the OPs opinion not have done much but even then he forced one or two important saves from the goalkeeper that if they hadn't saved would've completely changed the dynamic.
I personally think mitro is a great player for us and particularly at this level and adds more than just scoring goals, he set up quite a few last season when he did play, I think he needs more time and deserves more - he was completely blind sided by Scott Parker last season who despite not having a tram that scored goals refused to play Mitrovic, which will almost definitely have caused a bust up behind the scenes and knocked mitros confidence. I also think when it comes to providing service to him and our strikers in general the quality has been particularly poor. People mentioned time and again how poor Robinsons final ball is.
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Quote from: Blawarmy on August 10, 2021, 03:08:26 PM
Since he missed that penalty against Scotland it's destroyed him
That is understandable.
PARKER destroyed him he went away for Serbia and scored a few crakers then came back scored against villa to put us 1 up and then parker dropped him again
I hope Silva will get him back to his best. He just needs to net a couple and get his confidence back. I have no doubt that Harry will give him some assists [emoji1360]
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Quote from: H4usuallysitting on August 10, 2021, 02:48:31 PM
Give him the service - he'll get goals....once he gets goals, his hold up play will improve.....he probably needs half a dozen game's to settle in again
I'd argue he's had some service and he's not finishing or getting himself in the right positions enough to get those chances but we'll see I guess.
+1, how many more times are some on here are going to make excuses for him, not fit, not enough crosses, not enough of the ball etc. etc. Perhaps we should buy another 6 wingers to see if they can motivate Mitro, there again money would be better spent on replacing Mitro with somebody who is more mobile and might show a bit more interest, effort and ability in playing for us!
I can't subscribe to the bashing of Mitrovic on the evidence of Sunday's fixture. He got an early booking - the challenge was probably foolhardy - and that clearly disrupted the way he would have played against a couple of Middlesbrough centre halves, who marshalled him very well in my view.
I'm not sure if Silva has got him playing in a slightly different way (he seemed to be playing a bit deeper than in recent years) but he did deliver a couple of excellent flick ons for Carvalho and had a couple of efforts wide in the second half. We'll have to see how Silva uses him in future - but, at the moment, he's our only recognised forward with a record of scoring regular goals in this division - it would be madness to write him off right now in my view.
Strikers with a proven Championship pedigree aren't cheap and I'm confident that Mitrovic will come good.
If Slav took over tomorrow, for starters his body language would be different, the performances would follow.
Maybe that will happen under Silva, give him the first eight matches.
Quote from: paulbrookersmazydribbles on August 10, 2021, 05:23:22 PM
I can't subscribe to the bashing of Mitrovic on the evidence of Sunday's fixture. He got an early booking - the challenge was probably foolhardy - and that clearly disrupted the way he would have played against a couple of Middlesbrough centre halves, who marshalled him very well in my view.
I'm not sure if Silva has got him playing in a slightly different way (he seemed to be playing a bit deeper than in recent years) but he did deliver a couple of excellent flick ons for Carvalho and had a couple of efforts wide in the second half. We'll have to see how Silva uses him in future - but, at the moment, he's our only recognised forward with a record of scoring regular goals in this division - it would be madness to write him off right now in my view.
Strikers with a proven Championship pedigree aren't cheap and I'm confident that Mitrovic will come good.
We need Muniz and an upgrade on AK
Quote from: paulbrookersmazydribbles on August 10, 2021, 05:23:22 PM
I can't subscribe to the bashing of Mitrovic on the evidence of Sunday's fixture. He got an early booking - the challenge was probably foolhardy - and that clearly disrupted the way he would have played against a couple of Middlesbrough centre halves, who marshalled him very well in my view.
I'm not sure if Silva has got him playing in a slightly different way (he seemed to be playing a bit deeper than in recent years) but he did deliver a couple of excellent flick ons for Carvalho and had a couple of efforts wide in the second half. We'll have to see how Silva uses him in future - but, at the moment, he's our only recognised forward with a record of scoring regular goals in this division - it would be madness to write him off right now in my view.
Strikers with a proven Championship pedigree aren't cheap and I'm confident that Mitrovic will come good.
Ok, so if we say, ignore this last game, how would we explain the last 2 seasons roughly? Because it can't be that Mitrovic is the unluckiest striker in the world and just doesn't get any service after consistently playing so well. We'd have to really ignore 2 seasons worth of evidence that he's not performing anywhere near what he has done for us previously.
I still have a massive soft spot for Mitro. But he's not beyond criticism.
He's certainly not beyond criticism - I've just said I wouldn't be writing him off (that's just a personal view).
He clearly had a very poor season last year, but I'm not sure why we'd be ignoring the previous season? He scored 26 goals and finished with the golden boot in a team that wasn't exactly playing flowing football.
Quote from: paulbrookersmazydribbles on August 10, 2021, 05:31:49 PM
He's certainly not beyond criticism - I've just said I wouldn't be writing him off (that's just a personal view).
He clearly had a very poor season last year, but I'm not sure why we'd be ignoring the previous season? He scored 26 goals and finished with the golden boot in a team that wasn't exactly playing flowing football.
I'm certainly with you on not writing him off. A position I made in this thread too. I wouldn't say I'm ignoring his good seasons. Or his ridiculously good international record but his stats have dropped quite a lot over the past couple of seasons (for us) and its not all down to Parker. He's missed penalties and chances and just isn't getting chances like he used to and that's not fundamentally down to everyone else.
For context, I was a striker back in the day and the coaches used to always say 'it matters less if your missing chances, than if you aren't getting them'. Mitrovic not getting as many chances are as much down to him as it is the team and Parkerball. An example. Watch previous matches including this week, how many times someone is in behind and where Mitro is. More often in the last few seasons he's on edge of box or just inside. The Mitro I remember is penalty spot or closer and scoring a nick off the goalie or a toe from the cross because he's battled past the defender. This basic movement has been missing from his game for a while now and I wonder if he's still a bit heavy and not exactly match fit albeit, better than I saw him last season. Maja comes in and was making precisely those runs and was being rewarded for it on occasion and that's in the Prem.
Personally i wouldnt write Mitro off, he will score goals again at some stage with the right service.
Here is a dilemma, he scored a lot of goals under SP in our promotion season, and yet the following season didn't. We didn't bombard people with crosses the year we went up, he just made the most of what he got, so last year was a little surprising. He had Covid twice I believe, the first was his fault form a party or something if the media are to be believed. So if we put it solely down to service then we need to look at how Silva plays. Having looked at him at Watford and Everton his sides hardly reigned in the crosses, he likes inverted wingers or wingers that come in and shoot, that doesnt bode well for Mitro. Wilson is definitely a player that can cross and deliver a set piece, however he does like to cut inside and pull the trigger as seen on Sunday, Cav is also a player who likes to cut in and shoot (poorly more often than not it would seem) or lay off and go for the return. So if it is down to service he may not get much under Silva cross wise, so again will need to make the most of what he gets. Richarlison is a prime example is a wide player that comes narrow and now he plays more central (or did under Ancelotti), if thats what we can expect then maybe a change will be needed.
Like I say I wouldnt write him off, but as some have said give him 6 to 8 games, I would ask is that too long? F we really want to finish top 2 is 6 or 8 games too long to wait before a change is made.
My hope is that we are transitioning to tactics under Silva that work for the team, and that he will see we need crosses and will tweak his tactics to work for the team, and then we will see a better team performance where everyone is playing as we had became used too.
He definitely doesn't seem quite as sharp as previously yet - he had a couple of weeks less of pre-season IIRC - hopefully this will come in the weeks ahead.
Give him half a dozen game's
He will come good. Not worried.
Quote from: junior white on August 10, 2021, 05:44:22 PM
Personally i wouldnt write Mitro off, he will score goals again at some stage with the right service.
Here is a dilemma, he scored a lot of goals under SP in our promotion season, and yet the following season didn't. We didn't bombard people with crosses the year we went up, he just made the most of what he got, so last year was a little surprising. He had Covid twice I believe, the first was his fault form a party or something if the media are to be believed. So if we put it solely down to service then we need to look at how Silva plays. Having looked at him at Watford and Everton his sides hardly reigned in the crosses, he likes inverted wingers or wingers that come in and shoot, that doesnt bode well for Mitro. Wilson is definitely a player that can cross and deliver a set piece, however he does like to cut inside and pull the trigger as seen on Sunday, Cav is also a player who likes to cut in and shoot (poorly more often than not it would seem) or lay off and go for the return. So if it is down to service he may not get much under Silva cross wise, so again will need to make the most of what he gets. Richarlison is a prime example is a wide player that comes narrow and now he plays more central (or did under Ancelotti), if thats what we can expect then maybe a change will be needed.
Like I say I wouldnt write him off, but as some have said give him 6 to 8 games, I would ask is that too long? F we really want to finish top 2 is 6 or 8 games too long to wait before a change is made.
My hope is that we are transitioning to tactics under Silva that work for the team, and that he will see we need crosses and will tweak his tactics to work for the team, and then we will see a better team performance where everyone is playing as we had became used too.
I see what you're saying but Silva had Deeney a similar striker and one not as good as Mitro I believe. I think we need a few weeks to be able to see how the Silva system will play out.
Mitro while far from useless is not close to the player he was. For whatever reason he just hasn't looked close to matching any form of the past. I have mentioned this for some time but naturally thew fans love for him has closed to conversation down.
But we desperately need a forward as we did last season but while rumours abound we start another season short of a decent finisher. Hopefully Mitro will turn things around but the reason he didn't play last season was he wasn't good enough. This isn't a sudden occurrence.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on August 10, 2021, 06:12:32 PM
Give him half a dozen game's
An in form Mitro is essential to us being in the promotion race but if we have to wait for six games for him to find his form that could be too late with us finding ourselves having played seven games without a win.
Completely disagree with OP.
He was barely played last season but then played regularly for Serbia and scored 5 times.
He's played once this season and we write him off..?
He's reaching his peak age, he's hit a bit of a rough patch as all strikers do.. but will suddenly hit form and will probably get us promoted this season with another 20-25 goals.
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 10, 2021, 02:59:44 PM
He was dropped for half of last season and whenever he did play, he had literally zero service; owing to Parker's fixation with rolling the ball sideways in our own half. The season before he won the golden boot, and so I think it's a bit premature to be judging him after just one game under Silva. He'll get 20+ goals assuming he stays fit....
:plus one:
Silva has worked with this type of player before, in Deeney at Watford, so if he can't get him firing no-one can.
Let's give him his usual 3;or 4 games to get match fit before writing him off pls.
Coyw!
He looks a shell of his former self. Limited movement, losing physical battles, can't hold the ball up.
He was more involved on Sunday than last season, but it was only really effective in the sense that he dropped deeper a few times that opened space for a run behind him. If that's his primary benefit, we should sell him and buy someone with pace. We can't be relying on a 20yo Brazilian and an out-of-form Mitrovic to finish top two.
We've seen far too much previously from Mitro in this division to write him off after one forgettable performance this season, but I'm concerned. He's been pretty bad for a year now and I don't think we have "6-8 matches" to see if he can find his form. Wait that long and you're stuck until at least January, and we know that's a tough window, especially when many teams are skint.
Summer valuations are talking about Mitrovic being only worth £14m, and after the last two performances that value has dropped. Leaving us the option of a) selling Mitrovic for £10m and using the money to buy a centre forward cheaper than either Reid, Cav or Knockaert hoping that he is an upgrade on Mitrovic or b) keep Mitrovic and hope Silva brings back the old Mitrovic returns. Neither are guaranteed to work but option B is more likely. Let's face it Mitrovic is still seven to one to top the championship goalscoring, which is more chance that TK will buy the best striker in the league with £10m
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Quote from: junior white on August 10, 2021, 05:44:22 PM
Personally i wouldnt write Mitro off, he will score goals again at some stage with the right service.
Here is a dilemma, he scored a lot of goals under SP in our promotion season, and yet the following season didn't. We didn't bombard people with crosses the year we went up, he just made the most of what he got, so last year was a little surprising. He had Covid twice I believe, the first was his fault form a party or something if the media are to be believed. So if we put it solely down to service then we need to look at how Silva plays. Having looked at him at Watford and Everton his sides hardly reigned in the crosses, he likes inverted wingers or wingers that come in and shoot, that doesnt bode well for Mitro. Wilson is definitely a player that can cross and deliver a set piece, however he does like to cut inside and pull the trigger as seen on Sunday, Cav is also a player who likes to cut in and shoot (poorly more often than not it would seem) or lay off and go for the return. So if it is down to service he may not get much under Silva cross wise, so again will need to make the most of what he gets. Richarlison is a prime example is a wide player that comes narrow and now he plays more central (or did under Ancelotti), if thats what we can expect then maybe a change will be needed.
Like I say I wouldnt write him off, but as some have said give him 6 to 8 games, I would ask is that too long? F we really want to finish top 2 is 6 or 8 games too long to wait before a change is made.
My hope is that we are transitioning to tactics under Silva that work for the team, and that he will see we need crosses and will tweak his tactics to work for the team, and then we will see a better team performance where everyone is playing as we had became used too.
I see what you're saying but Silva had Deeney a similar striker and one not as good as Mitro I believe. I think we need a few weeks to be able to see how the Silva system will play out.
I agree with what your saying, Deeney is definitely not as good as Mitro of old. Deeney though was more willing it seems than Mitro to move out wide or come deep to move the centre backs around for runners so that the wide players can come in side and shoot. That meant that Deeney didnt get 20 goals but the wide players maybe got more to compensate.
Like I say I hope all sorts it self out as on paper Mitro is the best striker in the division
And so another OP cannot see anything worthwhile about a particular player (insert name here) and thus assumes there is nothing worthwhile about the player ... and this is supposed to be one of the better football forums. IGU.
Quote from: Milo on August 10, 2021, 10:07:42 PM
Completely disagree with OP.
He was barely played last season but then played regularly for Serbia and scored 5 times.
He's played once this season and we write him off..?
He's reaching his peak age, he's hit a bit of a rough patch as all strikers do.. but will suddenly hit form and will probably get us promoted this season with another 20-25 goals.
We pretty much had amazing form, in fact the second best form in the Premiership behind Man City, before the International Break we played Leeds, we lost (they out played us because of their high tempo game). International break Mitro scores 5 goals, body language totally different. Looks very mobile, running all over the pitch.
Mitro back in the first 11 after International Break, scores a lucky goal, then it was much of the same from Mitro. That's where it all fell apart for Parker, he should of kept with what was working.
Mitro is a different player at International level.
Quote from: rebel on August 11, 2021, 08:21:12 AM
Quote from: Milo on August 10, 2021, 10:07:42 PM
Completely disagree with OP.
He was barely played last season but then played regularly for Serbia and scored 5 times.
He's played once this season and we write him off..?
He's reaching his peak age, he's hit a bit of a rough patch as all strikers do.. but will suddenly hit form and will probably get us promoted this season with another 20-25 goals.
We pretty much had amazing form, in fact the second best form in the Premiership behind Man City, before the International Break we played Leeds, we lost (they out played us because of their high tempo game). International break Mitro scores 5 goals, body language totally different. Looks very mobile, running all over the pitch.
Mitro back in the first 11 after International Break, scores a lucky goal, then it was much of the same from Mitro. That's where it all fell apart for Parker, he should of kept with what was working.
Mitro is a different player at International level.
we lost
You have to blame Parker and his system for that not Mitro. The simple truth was nothing was working with Parker was it? Otherwise we would not have been relegated, because the team WAS good enough to stay up.
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Quote from: rebel on August 11, 2021, 08:21:12 AM
Quote from: Milo on August 10, 2021, 10:07:42 PM
Completely disagree with OP.
He was barely played last season but then played regularly for Serbia and scored 5 times.
He's played once this season and we write him off..?
He's reaching his peak age, he's hit a bit of a rough patch as all strikers do.. but will suddenly hit form and will probably get us promoted this season with another 20-25 goals.
We pretty much had amazing form, in fact the second best form in the Premiership behind Man City, before the International Break we played Leeds, we lost (they out played us because of their high tempo game). International break Mitro scores 5 goals, body language totally different. Looks very mobile, running all over the pitch.
Mitro back in the first 11 after International Break, scores a lucky goal, then it was much of the same from Mitro. That's where it all fell apart for Parker, he should of kept with what was working.
Mitro is a different player at International level.
we lost
You have to blame Parker and his system for that not Mitro. The simple truth was nothing was working with Parker was it? Otherwise we would not have been relegated, because the team WAS good enough to stay up.
I'm blaming Parker, he shouldn't have reintroduced Mitro to the squad after he scored 5 goals. Mitro had been poor when he had been playing. All the talk about service etc is nonsense. Opportunities he got when he played he should of put away.
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 10, 2021, 02:29:09 PM
Just watched 90 minute replay, he offers absolutely nothing and there is no chance to get him sold on nobody wants him,shame he got us promoted two seasons ago.
What are your thoughts now?
I thought he held up play and had some good lay off's
Plus he seemed to bust his gut to get his goal, even if there was some luck in it.
Fairly good game I think
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 10, 2021, 02:29:09 PM
Just watched 90 minute replay, he offers absolutely nothing and there is no chance to get him sold on nobody wants him,shame he got us promoted two seasons ago.
Your name Ex Pat seems particularly fitting after the Huddersfield game as the man you criticised for one poor game after a season of being kept out by a bad manager saw him come and score a goal and set one up.
Expect quite a few more goals from him this season in this team.
Quote from: General on August 16, 2021, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 10, 2021, 02:29:09 PM
Just watched 90 minute replay, he offers absolutely nothing and there is no chance to get him sold on nobody wants him,shame he got us promoted two seasons ago.
Your name Ex Pat seems particularly fitting after the Huddersfield game as the man you criticised for one poor game after a season of being kept out by a bad manager saw him come and score a goal and set one up.
Expect quite a few more goals from him this season in this team.
Mate I am an ex pat, you are no General trust me with your dopey comment I hope I am wrong about Mitro, that goal he didn't know he scored really doesn't raise expectations from me but glad you are so happy with he's performance.
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Quote from: General on August 16, 2021, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 10, 2021, 02:29:09 PM
Just watched 90 minute replay, he offers absolutely nothing and there is no chance to get him sold on nobody wants him,shame he got us promoted two seasons ago.
Your name Ex Pat seems particularly fitting after the Huddersfield game as the man you criticised for one poor game after a season of being kept out by a bad manager saw him come and score a goal and set one up.
Expect quite a few more goals from him this season in this team.
Mate I am an ex pat, you are no General trust me with your dopey comment I hope I am wrong about Mitro, that goal he didn't know he scored really doesn't raise expectations from me but glad you are so happy with he's performance.
Well that was worth you writing and me reading. 🙄
Mitro will improve when he has some real competition when Muniz is available.
This aged like spoilt milk. Night and day for both games. Thought he was exceptional against Huddersfield. Give him a chance, jeez. We're 2 games in.
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Quote from: General on August 16, 2021, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 10, 2021, 02:29:09 PM
Just watched 90 minute replay, he offers absolutely nothing and there is no chance to get him sold on nobody wants him,shame he got us promoted two seasons ago.
Your name Ex Pat seems particularly fitting after the Huddersfield game as the man you criticised for one poor game after a season of being kept out by a bad manager saw him come and score a goal and set one up.
Expect quite a few more goals from him this season in this team.
Mate I am an ex pat, you are no General trust me with your dopey comment I hope I am wrong about Mitro, that goal he didn't know he scored really doesn't raise expectations from me but glad you are so happy with he's performance.
Well that was worth you writing and me reading. 🙄
Stop it your'e embarrassing yourself.
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Quote from: General on August 16, 2021, 05:54:46 PM
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Quote from: General on August 16, 2021, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 10, 2021, 02:29:09 PM
Just watched 90 minute replay, he offers absolutely nothing and there is no chance to get him sold on nobody wants him,shame he got us promoted two seasons ago.
Your name Ex Pat seems particularly fitting after the Huddersfield game as the man you criticised for one poor game after a season of being kept out by a bad manager saw him come and score a goal and set one up.
Expect quite a few more goals from him this season in this team.
Mate I am an ex pat, you are no General trust me with your dopey comment I hope I am wrong about Mitro, that goal he didn't know he scored really doesn't raise expectations from me but glad you are so happy with he's performance.
Well that was worth you writing and me reading. 🙄
Stop it your'e embarrassing yourself.
Haha. Ex Pat where?
Quote from: H3Matt on August 16, 2021, 06:00:50 PM
This aged like spoilt milk. Night and day for both games. Thought he was exceptional against Huddersfield. Give him a chance, jeez. We're 2 games in.
Give him a chance yes of course, but he was exceptional, really??? I must watch the 90 minute replay again as obviously I have not seen or appreciated his performance. There were some exceptional/very good performances but Mitro was not really 1 of them. I hope he plays a lot better tomorrow night!!
I completely disagree with the OP, he has no idea whether other managers want to sign Mitro, so that is unfounded speculation and pretty unlikely in my view. As to Mitro's ability, well as others have pointed out, the last time we were in this division he scored a hatfull and there is no reason why he can't do that again. In the Prem under Parker he got very limited game time, for some inexplicable reason our manager persisted with the failed Cav as a striker plan. For that reason it is hard to criticise his efforts for FFC last season, but it's hard to ignore his international form which suggests to me that quality is permanent.
Quote from: davew on August 16, 2021, 06:14:36 PM
Quote from: H3Matt on August 16, 2021, 06:00:50 PM
This aged like spoilt milk. Night and day for both games. Thought he was exceptional against Huddersfield. Give him a chance, jeez. We're 2 games in.
Give him a chance yes of course, but he was exceptional, really??? I must watch the 90 minute replay again as obviously I have not seen or appreciated his performance. There were some exceptional/very good performances but Mitro was not really 1 of them. I hope he plays a lot better tomorrow night!!
Bit harsh, on any other day scoring one and assisting another (he still had to put pressure and force the opportunity for the goal) would've been deemed a pretty good individual performance. Just so happened that Cav scored two and BDR assisted three.
Quote from: General on August 16, 2021, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: davew on August 16, 2021, 06:14:36 PM
Give him a chance yes of course, but he was exceptional, really??? I must watch the 90 minute replay again as obviously I have not seen or appreciated his performance. There were some exceptional/very good performances but Mitro was not really 1 of them. I hope he plays a lot better tomorrow night!!
Bit harsh, on any other day scoring one and assisting another (he still had to put pressure and force the opportunity for the goal) would've been deemed a pretty good individual performance. Just so happened that Cav scored two and BDR assisted three.
I didn't think Mitrovic's was an exceptional performance. Nor do I see how such an opinion can be deemed 'harsh' when you, yourself, have downgraded it to 'pretty good'. Indeed, I think it's an indication of the decline in Mitrovic's contribution over the past year-or-so that you consider something as unexceptional as chasing down a dodgy back pass as being worthy of mention. But I hope we can agree his performance was a step in the right direction and look to a further improvement tomorrow night.
Quote from: Arthur on August 16, 2021, 10:15:13 PM
[I think it's an indication of the decline in Mitrovic's contribution over the past year-or-so that you consider something as unexceptional as chasing down a dodgy back pass as being worthy of mention.
What he mentioned is that Mitrovic scored one goal and made another. The conversation should end there. If he does that every week and finishes the season with 45 goals and 45 assists, i assume most will regard that as a bloody good season. Although with some of the posters on this thread, you never know.
Quote from: Statto on August 17, 2021, 12:11:12 AM
Quote from: Arthur on August 16, 2021, 10:15:13 PM
[I think it's an indication of the decline in Mitrovic's contribution over the past year-or-so that you consider something as unexceptional as chasing down a dodgy back pass as being worthy of mention.
What he mentioned is that Mitrovic scored one goal and made another. The conversation should end there. If he does that every week and finishes the season with 45 goals and 45 assists, i assume most will regard that as a bloody good season. Although with some of the posters on this thread, you never know.
For arguments like this where opinions differ, statistics are very useful.
According to whoscored statistics, Mitrovic has fallen from the "best centre forward in the championship" in 17/18 to the "fourth best centre forward in the championship" so far but he might improve. Mitrovic is not good enough to be the best player in "HMAS Piss the League", but he is good enough to be an average player in a Championship winning team.
Quote from: Statto on August 17, 2021, 12:11:12 AM
Quote from: Arthur on August 16, 2021, 10:15:13 PM
[I think it's an indication of the decline in Mitrovic's contribution over the past year-or-so that you consider something as unexceptional as chasing down a dodgy back pass as being worthy of mention.
What he mentioned is that Mitrovic scored one goal and made another. The conversation should end there. If he does that every week and finishes the season with 45 goals and 45 assists, i assume most will regard that as a bloody good season. Although with some of the posters on this thread, you never know.
You are posting to the wrong person.
If you feel the mention of Mitrovic's goal and assist was all that needed to be said, you ought to be telling General, for it is he who then referred to Mitrovic chasing down the back pass. For the conversation to go no further than Mitrovic's match statistics, it behoves General to withhold the comment he put in parentheses.
When the season ends and Mitrovic has his 45 goals and 45 assists, come back to me.
Let us see what happens at Millwall tonight, it's a different challenge and a physical challenge and we need to be up for it because if we are not we will be outmuscled as Millwall will be looking to get in our faces as many many teams will be doing the same and our days of being a soft touch have to be firmly locked away. This is where Mitro can excel and give them something to think about, because believe me Millwall think we are a soft touch and too lightweight, so we have to make sure they do not spoil the party.
Talk about different discussions going at tangents here there and every where! For me:
Mitro - has been a great player for us in the past
Was poor last season
Cant play in a team looking to counter against PL teams
Will score goals for us this season
Doesnt cope too well with being on the bench
Is he good enough for a Premier league side capable of staying in the division? probably not.
Is he capable of being the championships top scorer again this season ? Absolutely.
Quote from: colinwhite on August 17, 2021, 05:42:04 AM
Talk about different discussions going at tangents here there and every where! For me:
Mitro - has been a great player for us in the past
Was poor last season
Cant play in a team looking to counter against PL teams
Will score goals for us this season
Doesnt cope too well with being on the bench
Is he good enough for a Premier league side capable of staying in the division? probably not.
Is he capable of being the championships top scorer again this season ? Absolutely.
I think he could play in a counter attacking role against prem teams..just not as the furthest player forward. In that style he'd be a player in the Bobby zamora mould, leading the line to hold the ball up and play in the faster attacking players. We've seen him do that countless times and his physicality at 26 could be competitive against a lot of premiership defenders if they were to try and man mark him.
I really couldn't disagree more. Who put Cavaleiro through for the fifth goal? Be very, very careful what you wish for ... this guy still can be potent & it appears that assistance in the forward line is on it's way.
Quote from: General on August 17, 2021, 09:40:04 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on August 17, 2021, 05:42:04 AM
Talk about different discussions going at tangents here there and every where! For me:
Mitro - has been a great player for us in the past
Was poor last season
Cant play in a team looking to counter against PL teams
Will score goals for us this season
Doesnt cope too well with being on the bench
Is he good enough for a Premier league side capable of staying in the division? probably not.
Is he capable of being the championships top scorer again this season ? Absolutely.
I think he could play in a counter attacking role against prem teams..just not as the furthest player forward. In that style he'd be a player in the Bobby zamora mould, leading the line to hold the ball up and play in the faster attacking players. We've seen him do that countless times and his physicality at 26 could be competitive against a lot of premiership defenders if they were to try and man mark him.
In a top half PL (with better quality players)side he could maybe do that job ,but not in a side like we had last year.
Tonight against Millwall will be tough. With Wilson absent who is most likely to score for us, Mitro of course who else.
Quote from: filham on August 17, 2021, 10:57:46 AM
Tonight against Millwall will be tough. With Wilson absent who is most likely to score for us, Mitro of course who else.
How do you figure that? Sounds like you're smitten with him.. he's played two games for us, has scored one, played 75 minutes of another without scoring and got a red card. After he got a red card the substitute scored 2 and three others got on the scoreboard. Don't get the most likely to score.
On evidence, albeit early this season, there are a lot of forward options who've proven they're just as likely to score.
Quote from: Statto on August 17, 2021, 09:29:49 AM
As is often the case, you've pursued it to the extent that you miss the point you're trying to reply to.
My point is I'd rather not enter into discussion with you. Apologies for not making it clear.
Quote from: Arthur on August 17, 2021, 04:25:35 AM
When the season ends and Mitrovic has his 45 goals and 45 assists, come back to me.
Ditto.
Can we end this stupid Mitro argument now?
Quote from: Twig on August 17, 2021, 07:49:29 PM
Can we end this stupid Mitro argument now?
Lol. And at the GK's near post. What were people talking about. Wonder whether they'll be considered smart at end of season or the opposite. 2 goals in three games so far though.
2 goals in 3 games, get him out he's awful 🤣🤣🤣
oops
Can we just lock this thread now, it's aged worse than Katie Hopkins :005:
Well I guess Mitro silenced a few people
Guess tonight's performance (Millwall) puts pay to this thread!
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 17, 2021, 08:40:44 PM
Can we just lock this thread now, it's aged worse than Katie Hopkins :005:
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Quote from: Bracken White on August 17, 2021, 10:05:37 PM
Guess tonight's performance (Millwall) puts pay to this thread!
I doubt it, there are still plenty or "board and plankers" out there
Mitro looked very much like his old self last night, forget the goal what was more pleasing was the work rate. The ground he covered, the closing down, the willingness to run wide was all there which is what you nee din a one up top formation. None of that we saw last year for a variety of reasons i guess. It is good to see the old Mitro back thats for sure, if he keeps that up there is a 20 goal + season coming in for him.
When I look at last season, and I like many on this board had a go at his lack of effort, there was obviously something going on (hence his alleged transfer requests), it takes 2 to make these things happen so am sure there is blame on both sides. However, thats gone and now he is back he seems to be the Mitro we all know he can be, long may it continue.
Quote from: junior white on August 18, 2021, 07:55:07 AM
Mitro looked very much like his old self last night, forget the goal what was more pleasing was the work rate. The ground he covered, the closing down, the willingness to run wide was all there which is what you nee din a one up top formation. None of that we saw last year for a variety of reasons i guess. It is good to see the old Mitro back thats for sure, if he keeps that up there is a 20 goal + season coming in for him.
When I look at last season, and I like many on this board had a go at his lack of effort, there was obviously something going on (hence his alleged transfer requests), it takes 2 to make these things happen so am sure there is blame on both sides. However, thats gone and now he is back he seems to be the Mitro we all know he can be, long may it continue.
Agree, the body language and work rate was there. He was all over the pitch.
Quote from: junior white on August 18, 2021, 07:55:07 AM
Mitro looked very much like his old self last night, forget the goal what was more pleasing was the work rate. The ground he covered, the closing down, the willingness to run wide was all there which is what you nee din a one up top formation. None of that we saw last year for a variety of reasons i guess. It is good to see the old Mitro back thats for sure, if he keeps that up there is a 20 goal + season coming in for him.
When I look at last season, and I like many on this board had a go at his lack of effort, there was obviously something going on (hence his alleged transfer requests), it takes 2 to make these things happen so am sure there is blame on both sides. However, thats gone and now he is back he seems to be the Mitro we all know he can be, long may it continue.
Well said, can't disagree with any of that, great performance last night!!
Oh dear ex-pat, Mitro scores AGAIN.
The golden boot was never in doubt; he's a machine at this level
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 21, 2021, 05:04:09 PM
The golden boot was never in doubt; he's a machine at this level
Can he keep it going after 8 matches, missed a very easy chance for a player of his quality. No one challenging, either side of the keeper he scores.
They are the frustrating moments.
Quote from: rebel on August 21, 2021, 05:18:24 PM
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 21, 2021, 05:04:09 PM
The golden boot was never in doubt; he's a machine at this level
Can he keep it going after 8 matches, missed a very easy chance for a player of his quality. No one challenging, either side of the keeper he scores.
They are the frustrating moments.
No player scores with every shot they take Mr Rebel. Lets be happy he has scored in 3 of the 4 games he has plyed in and they have more importantly been the first goal of the match.
Quote from: blingo on August 21, 2021, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: rebel on August 21, 2021, 05:18:24 PM
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 21, 2021, 05:04:09 PM
The golden boot was never in doubt; he's a machine at this level
Can he keep it going after 8 matches, missed a very easy chance for a player of his quality. No one challenging, either side of the keeper he scores.
They are the frustrating moments.
No player scores with every shot they take Mr Rebel. Lets be happy he has scored in 3 of the 4 games he has plyed in and they have more importantly been the first goal of the match.
Mr. Blingo, your postman could have scored that. If that had been for Serbia he would have scored that.
Quote from: rebel on August 21, 2021, 05:32:48 PM
Quote from: blingo on August 21, 2021, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: rebel on August 21, 2021, 05:18:24 PM
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 21, 2021, 05:04:09 PM
The golden boot was never in doubt; he's a machine at this level
Can he keep it going after 8 matches, missed a very easy chance for a player of his quality. No one challenging, either side of the keeper he scores.
They are the frustrating moments.
No player scores with every shot they take Mr Rebel. Lets be happy he has scored in 3 of the 4 games he has plyed in and they have more importantly been the first goal of the match.
Mr. Blingo, your postman could have scored that. If that had been for Serbia he would have scored that.
Lets be hppy we are winning and TOP of the table Mr Rebel. I am sure there is improvement still to come. Happy days \o/
Don't tell me he scored again!
36 games in, and Mitrovic is on 25 goals: 'let's see if he can do it in the last 10 games, he still looks off the pace'.......
This is Mitro time.
It's his level and and a level at which he excels.
Drink it up people.
Next season will be very different.
Mitro has got his mojo back which is a big relief. He is a beast that puts fear in Championship defences.
I'm sure he'll be disappointed at that header he missed today but great to see him back, scoring goals, putting a shift in and looking fitter by the day. Least if he is having an off day/string of games, he has support now in Muniz. It has been silly how we didn't create competition or some contribution in goals and nearly solely relied on him.
Ex pat hasn't been on to explain his expert opinion in the light of Mitro's recent performances. However after today's game I will try to be balanced; he's got his eye for goal back, no question However some of his knock downs and passes are still going astray. Looks like he still lacks a bit of match sharpness, by which I don't mean fitness, rather the confidence and touch that comes from playing consistently.
If he builds on his current ok performances then after three or four more matches he will be positively frightening.
Mitro is rubbish, apparently. If only we had their great striker Kamara
Quote from: Arthur on August 17, 2021, 04:25:35 AM
When the season ends and Mitrovic has his 45 goals and 45 assists, come back to me.
Still on track
:005:
Quote from: Statto on August 21, 2021, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 17, 2021, 04:25:35 AM
When the season ends and Mitrovic has his 45 goals and 45 assists, come back to me.
Still on track
:005:
To be fair, this is one of those scenarios where I wouldn't even care if I was this wrong!
Had to laugh yesterday when some of the rather big boned Hull fans at the. Front were singing derogatory songs about Mitros build. I'm not a fan of ear cupping but I think it was well deserved yesterday.
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 10, 2021, 02:59:44 PM
He was dropped for half of last season and whenever he did play, he had literally zero service; owing to Parker's fixation with rolling the ball sideways in our own half. The season before he won the golden boot, and so I think it's a bit premature to be judging him after just one game under Silva. He'll get 20+ goals assuming he stays fit....
After 4 games this post is very much spot on. Thought he was excellent yesterday and every other side in the Championship would bite your hand off for him in their line up. Apart from scoring goals you need to look at what he does, occupy central defenders, he has an excellent touch when getting the ball and lays it off very well. After being ignored by Parker all of last season he is back to his best and with the way we are playing looks to be enjoying himself.
5000+ views & still going strong, congratulations to the OP!
Mitro clearly wasn't fit for much of last season. His movement and runs were poor. Yes he didn't exactly have glowing service but he didn't help himself.
Now he looks trimmer and his runs and pace are much better against poorer opposition. Great to have him back. But let's not delude ourselves that Parker didn't play him out of malice. Mitro simply wasn't very good when he did play last season.
I was ready to write him off this season but clearly he is back to leading the line and bullying defenders.
I want to see Mitro score the 'braces' and 'hat-tricks' he scores for Serbia for Fulham.
They are coming Mr Rebel, be patient.
Quote from: blingo on August 22, 2021, 01:25:35 PM
They are coming Mr Rebel, be patient.
Understood Mr. Blingo.
Seems like a different player. Parker rumors regarding the squad are probably true. He should score a lot of goals this year.
Quote from: rebel on August 22, 2021, 01:22:30 PM
I want to see Mitro score the 'braces' and 'hat-tricks' he scores for Serbia for Fulham.
Lol a goal a game not good enough!
Quote from: Twig on August 22, 2021, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: rebel on August 22, 2021, 01:22:30 PM
I want to see Mitro score the 'braces' and 'hat-tricks' he scores for Serbia for Fulham.
Lol a goal a game not good enough!
Early days can he maintain that throughout the season. How many 'braces' / 'hat-tricks' has he scored for Fulham?
Mitro scored hat trick against Luton.
And here's a reminder of a "few" more ...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ-LDz8TpjI
Quote from: Statto on August 21, 2021, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 17, 2021, 04:25:35 AM
When the season ends and Mitrovic has his 45 goals and 45 assists, come back to me.
Still on track
:005:
Indeed. And if he's still on track after the Stoke game - even better.
Quote from: rebel on August 22, 2021, 06:37:23 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 22, 2021, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: rebel on August 22, 2021, 01:22:30 PM
I want to see Mitro score the 'braces' and 'hat-tricks' he scores for Serbia for Fulham.
Lol a goal a game not good enough!
Early days can he maintain that throughout the season. How many 'braces' / 'hat-tricks' has he scored for Fulham?
9 braces, 1 hat-trick
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 22, 2021, 06:59:25 PM
Mitro scored hat trick against Luton.
And here's a reminder of a "few" more ...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ-LDz8TpjI
Yes, so just the one hat - trick.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 22, 2021, 01:06:50 PM
Mitro clearly wasn't fit for much of last season. His movement and runs were poor. Yes he didn't exactly have glowing service but he didn't help himself.
Now he looks trimmer and his runs and pace are much better against poorer opposition. Great to have him back. But let's not delude ourselves that Parker didn't play him out of malice. Mitro simply wasn't very good when he did play last season.
I was ready to write him off this season but clearly he is back to leading the line and bullying defenders.
Not sure malice is the right word, but he didn't play him for more than footballing reasons. Mainly because of his own inadequacies.
I respect other peoples opinion but the treatment of Mitro by Parker on a
personal basis would knock any players confidence and not playing him
was a joke when playing is what keeps you sharp fit and effective. i hope
his doughters have the balls to apologise when he proves them wrong.
He isn't up to the Premier league but he is very good at Championship level.
Expecting a substancial goal tally from Mitro this season.
Quote from: Luka on August 23, 2021, 10:14:04 AM
He isn't up to the Premier league but he is very good at Championship level.
Expecting a substancial goal tally from Mitro this season.
He is more then capable in the Premiership, 11 goals in a relegated side, is pretty good going. Add three managers during the season.
He's undoubtedly an excellent striker at this level and I wouldn't change him for any other championship forward.
There are often times however (and you only really see this live at games) when his shoulders drop, body language is off (not good for a leader) and he looks like he just can't be bothered. When that happens and he isn't scoring or assisting, he isn't above criticism.
I still wouldn't want anyone else, but welcome the competition Muniz will provide.
Quote from: ken 44 on August 23, 2021, 06:31:20 AM
i hope his doughters have the balls
I hope they don't - otherwise they'd be his sons!
He should have scored at least Three goals yesterday, I'm amazed at how so many people on here think he's so great.
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 23, 2021, 02:16:53 PM
He should have scored at least Three goals yesterday, I'm amazed at how so many people on here think he's so great.
Oh I see... So not scoring a hatrick per game, therefore "Mitro, enough.."? Why we havent yet made him into glue is beyond me.
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 23, 2021, 02:16:53 PM
He should have scored at least Three goals yesterday, I'm amazed at how so many people on here think he's so great.
You are either living in cloud cuckoo land or ur just a WUM.
What great news - 5 more years
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 23, 2021, 02:16:53 PM
He should have scored at least Three goals yesterday, I'm amazed at how so many people on here think he's so great.
Rubbish. But (and it's a big but), even if he did miss a chance he is still scoring consistently, registering assists and getting into position to score even more (your point about a couple of missed chances). Now check your OP "he offers us absolutely nothing". Care to admit you were talking nonsense?
He needs to be scoring at least 2 goals per game, otherwise he is useless.
Let's retire this thread
If people have something to say they should be allowed to post, not denied that opportunity by closing a thread.
There are too many cliques on this site.
If you don't like what's being said...then move onto another thread or fight your corner.
Thats a fair point very well put. 064.gif
Quote from: Luka on August 28, 2021, 06:32:14 PM
If people have something to say they should be allowed to post, not denied that opportunity by closing a thread.
There are too many cliques on this site.
If you don't like what's being said...then move onto another thread or fight your corner.
Completely agree
Quote from: St Eve on August 28, 2021, 12:47:55 PM
What great news - 5 more years
Lol.
Five more years for this wum, to look like an idiot.
You can't write this stuff.
It's golden!
Coyw!
Mitro's a legend and whoever has previously questioned his ability ought to be tracked down and publicly flogged
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 28, 2021, 08:31:29 PM
Mitro's a legend and whoever has previously questioned his ability ought to be tracked down and publicly flogged
That's inhuman. A stoning it is 😉
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 28, 2021, 08:31:29 PM
Mitro's a legend and whoever has previously questioned his ability ought to be tracked down and publicly flogged
I take it you didn't watch last season then. Everything and everyone was questioned.. except King Areola.
Quote from: ex-Pat on August 10, 2021, 02:29:09 PM
Just watched 90 minute replay, he offers absolutely nothing and there is no chance to get him sold on nobody wants him,shame he got us promoted two seasons ago.
I disagree with this. He set up the first and scored one. He could put more of a shift in but his awareness of those around him is excellent.
Read the OP again. I am happy to keep this thread going for another 5 years
Scoring goals but he is very wasteful so far this season.
Glad we got Muniz in for competition
Quote from: St Eve on August 28, 2021, 09:42:10 PM
Read the OP again. I am happy to keep this thread going for another 5 years
That's why I have bumped it back up a few times.
Forgot about Muniz quite excited about him.Mitro not great on pens surprised he took it he offered it to Kebano who turned it down.Fabio is a talent.
Although I still think that this is a pointless discussion - even more so now after the new contract & his performances - it's a free country, respect other opinions .... however flawed!
Personally I think Mitro has a bright future at Fulham..... October is going to be a great month for him!
COYW ⚽️
He is playing well, scoring and certainly deserves his place in the team.
I saw in the paper today that he was man of the match yesterday. I didn't think that at all, albeit that the view from the Hammy End doesn't give the close-ups that TV does.
The penalty is one of those things that happen - no issue there but I do think he needs to get the kind of more clinical form that would have put away his initial shot on goal when Bobby DR scored. Vastly improved form from last season and the tail end of our promotion season but still not back to his best imo. Let's hope he keeps progressing in form as he has over the last few games
COYW
His tee up for Harry was sublime. 2 assists and a goal not a bad afternoon's work ?
Flogging a pointless argument is sort of like thinking about masterbation
Best left inside your head
Quote from: Stevieboy on August 29, 2021, 12:38:23 PM
His tee up for Harry was sublime. 2 assists and a goal not a bad afternoon's work ?
That is exactly how Mitro should be playing, scoring clear cut opportunities, but creating opportunities for his team mates, totally different to the static Mitro in recent seasons. He already has more assists then the season where he scored 26 goals in the Championship.
Quote from: rebel on August 31, 2021, 05:09:59 PM
Quote from: Stevieboy on August 29, 2021, 12:38:23 PM
His tee up for Harry was sublime. 2 assists and a goal not a bad afternoon's work ?
That is exactly how Mitro should be playing, scoring clear cut opportunities, but creating opportunities for his team mates, totally different to the static Mitro in recent seasons. He already has more assists then the season where he scored 26 goals in the Championship.
:plus one:
Now he has gone and scored 2 goals for Serbia. He just is t good enough!
Quote from: St Eve on September 04, 2021, 08:50:54 PM
Now he has gone and scored 2 goals for Serbia. He just is t good enough!
I think the OP must be young. Such impulsive and short term thinking. After 25+ years you don't get rid of a player of mitros ability just because he wasn't played by a previous manager who was, as managers go, pretty poor and one track minded.
Quote from: St Eve on September 04, 2021, 08:50:54 PM
Now he has gone and scored 2 goals for Serbia. He just is t good enough!
yup, a waste of space, who wants a goal scorer? We need a proven goal scorer like Rodak up front!!
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 10, 2021, 02:59:44 PM
He was dropped for half of last season and whenever he did play, he had literally zero service; owing to Parker's fixation with rolling the ball sideways in our own half. The season before he won the golden boot, and so I think it's a bit premature to be judging him after just one game under Silva. He'll get 20+ goals assuming he stays fit....
Yep
He will get 36 goals this season
Quote from: General on September 04, 2021, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: St Eve on September 04, 2021, 08:50:54 PM
Now he has gone and scored 2 goals for Serbia. He just is t good enough!
I think the OP must be young. Such impulsive and short term thinking. After 25+ years you don't get rid of a player of mitros ability just because he wasn't played by a previous manager who was, as managers go, pretty poor and one track minded.
Agreed
Injured today playing for Serbia
Reports of broken cheek bone ?
Muniz come on down
Quote from: perry geyton on September 05, 2021, 12:00:24 AM
Injured today playing for Serbia
Reports of broken cheek bone ?
Muniz come on down
Bloody disaster if true.
Quote from: perry geyton on September 05, 2021, 12:00:24 AM
Injured today playing for Serbia
Reports of broken cheek bone ?
Muniz come on down
Jesus Christ I hope not. I hate international breaks for this reason - haven't read anywhere he's injured though.
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on September 05, 2021, 12:27:35 AM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 05, 2021, 12:00:24 AM
Injured today playing for Serbia
Reports of broken cheek bone ?
Muniz come on down
Jesus Christ I hope not. I hate international breaks for this reason - haven't read anywhere he's injured though.
He did go off in their game today but he walked off not looking like he'd broken a bone in his face and the Serbia manager said they were going to assess him ahead of their next game
bad bruise imo, hopefully nothing broken
Quote from: winterline on September 05, 2021, 01:37:00 AM
bad bruise imo, hopefully nothing broken
I hope you are a medical professional!
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on September 05, 2021, 03:03:10 AM
Quote from: winterline on September 05, 2021, 01:37:00 AM
bad bruise imo, hopefully nothing broken
I hope you are a medical professional!
Stating ones opinion in no way makes it a medical one...(facepalm) I even said less than Deeping_white... (double facepalm)
Quote from: General on September 04, 2021, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: St Eve on September 04, 2021, 08:50:54 PM
Now he has gone and scored 2 goals for Serbia. He just is t good enough!
I think the OP must be young. Such impulsive and short term thinking. After 25+ years you don't get rid of a player of mitros ability just because he wasn't played by a previous manager who was, as managers go, pretty poor and one track minded.
Don't think it was an age thing, there were a lot on this board last year very frustrated at his performances and they voiced that opinion. His loss of form, the miss in the penalty shoot out and the rumoured disagreement (I say rumoured as I have no inside info) with SP all happening around the same time, affected him badly it would seem.
He wasn't the same player, thankfully this year MS has rejuvenated him and his confidence has come back which is something we needed as we have no one else who can score goals in the championship like he does. To buy that now your looking at north of 25 million.
MItro is back we should all be happy rather than lingering on a post and having a go (justified or not) when a hell of a. Lot as I say said similar things last season
Quote from: winterline on September 05, 2021, 03:56:34 AM
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on September 05, 2021, 03:03:10 AM
Quote from: winterline on September 05, 2021, 01:37:00 AM
bad bruise imo, hopefully nothing broken
I hope you are a medical professional!
Stating ones opinion in no way makes it a medical one...(facepalm) I even said less than Deeping_white... (double facepalm)
Serbia have confirmed he's fit for the Ireland game on Tuesday so everything is fine :)
Quote from: junior white on September 05, 2021, 07:50:32 AM
Quote from: General on September 04, 2021, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: St Eve on September 04, 2021, 08:50:54 PM
Now he has gone and scored 2 goals for Serbia. He just is t good enough!
I think the OP must be young. Such impulsive and short term thinking. After 25+ years you don't get rid of a player of mitros ability just because he wasn't played by a previous manager who was, as managers go, pretty poor and one track minded.
Don't think it was an age thing, there were a lot on this board last year very frustrated at his performances and they voiced that opinion. His loss of form, the miss in the penalty shoot out and the rumoured disagreement (I say rumoured as I have no inside info) with SP all happening around the same time, affected him badly it would seem.
He wasn't the same player, thankfully this year MS has rejuvenated him and his confidence has come back which is something we needed as we have no one else who can score goals in the championship like he does. To buy that now your looking at north of 25 million.
MItro is back we should all be happy rather than lingering on a post and having a go (justified or not) when a hell of a. Lot as I say said similar things last season
I agree that it's time to drop this thread, absolutely. However, I don't think many on here were ever being as extreme as the OP; "he offers absolutely nothing and there is no chance to get him sold on nobody wants him,shame he got us promoted two seasons ago".
Oh now he has scored again and again and again. A hatrick in the first half.
Lol.
Triple the fun.
If only we had a decent striker.
Expat completely wrote off Motro and still posts along the lines of "play anyone other than Cairney". The former is the division's leading goal scorer (plus multiple assists), the latter since his return has the most assists per minute played from our squad this season. He needs to just come on here and admit two huge misjudgements.
Classic post this one...
The big difference for me ,and I was always sure he would turn his lack of form around, is that he has developed as a player under silva. His all round play fitness ,speed ,movement and assist play has come on enormously this year . long may it continue !!
Didn't he also have Covid (one of the original variants) which must have had some effect on him last season?
Whatever it was, he is an absolute G-d this year.
Funny how he has "developed" under Silva, scores loads for his country, but was considered useless under Parker.
Quote from: blingo on January 17, 2022, 05:08:39 PM
Funny how he has "developed" under Silva, scores loads for his country, but was considered useless under Parker.
Well he has Blingo. Obviously parkers strategy di not suit Mitro ,but his movement and general play is better now than ever,and that includes how he played under Jokanovic in my opinion.
All good players keep developing by the way ,and Mitro I think has taken a big step forward. I hope and believe that he will show next year that he is more than good enough for the premier league.
He scored 11 in the prem in a team that was not as good as this one is. So he won't have any problems. In fact, I think he's a 15-20 goal striker at the top level.
Quote from: blingo on January 17, 2022, 05:50:03 PM
He scored 11 in the prem in a team that was not as good as this one is. So he won't have any problems. In fact, I think he's a 15-20 goal striker at the top level.
I agree 100 per cent
Expat really knows his stuff. So vocal last season and obviously very astute
Quote from: St Eve on January 17, 2022, 06:50:32 PM
Expat really knows his stuff. So vocal last season and obviously very astute
Hahahaha
My posts have been 'vindicated'. His body language is a man possessed, totally up for the challenge, giving feed back to the players around him.
Quote from: rebel on January 17, 2022, 07:34:27 PM
My posts have been 'vindicated'. His body language is a man possessed, totally up for the challenge, giving feed back to the players around him.
Definitely
Quote from: colinwhite on January 17, 2022, 05:26:02 PM
Quote from: blingo on January 17, 2022, 05:08:39 PM
Funny how he has "developed" under Silva, scores loads for his country, but was considered useless under Parker.
Well he has Blingo. Obviously parkers strategy di not suit Mitro ,but his movement and general play is better now than ever,and that includes how he played under Jokanovic in my opinion.
All good players keep developing by the way ,and Mitro I think has taken a big step forward. I hope and believe that he will show next year that he is more than good enough for the premier league.
I'm not sure he has exactly developed under Silva, his international form shows he always had it in him, I do however think he has prospered under Silva whose preferred style and team set up suit him far better. Just one example; when Mitro drops deep this season it is with a clear purpose, last season when he dropped deep he looked lost.
