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Title: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: Ludlow Richard on August 19, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
.....someone offered £20 million for Fabio Carvalho, would you accept it?
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: jayffc on August 19, 2021, 04:36:49 PM
Quote from: Ludlow Richard on August 19, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
.....someone offered £20 million for Fabio Carvalho, would you accept it?

No chance,
Genuinely he's been exactly what we need in CAM, mobile and clever with his runs, opens defences and makes space for others, Whatever he's doing its working, promotion is more important than 20m in the short term
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: Jim© on August 19, 2021, 04:42:01 PM
No but if we sent them Ivan Cavaleiro and just said "i though that's who you meant"?
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: General on August 19, 2021, 04:43:58 PM
If he signs a new contract and keeps doing what he's doing he could be worth more. Depends on what they think of his potential as an asset to the club in footballing terms vs cash terms. Promotion is worth 100£m so if he contributes heavily to our promotion surely he's worth more.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: MayoDomo on August 19, 2021, 04:47:32 PM
I think so. It's tough because we are so lacking in creative attacking midfielders, so Fabio's worth to Fulham is quite high at the moment. That being said 20mil is a lot for someone who has shown only 3 great games but has no history of maintaining that level. May change my mind come Christmas.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: Riversider on August 19, 2021, 04:47:43 PM
Sessegnon went for £25 million plus Onomah,  so why would we accept £20 million for Fabio ?
He's the type of exciting young talent that Villa will be interested in, great replacement eventually for Grealish.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: South Coast White on August 19, 2021, 04:47:55 PM
Just give the lad what he's looking for, it could well prove the best investment this club have done in a very long time. 3 year deal, back in prem, England call up who know what his value could be then. This guy is without question our best prospect for years.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: filham on August 19, 2021, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: Jim© on August 19, 2021, 04:42:01 PM
No but if we sent them Ivan Cavaleiro and just said "i though that's who you meant"?
Yes if there is a small chance of that working then it has to be tried.
Right now Carvalho is priceless to us and all possible purchasers must have the door slammed on their foot.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: Luka on August 19, 2021, 05:44:26 PM
If he wont sign a new contract then yes !!
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 19, 2021, 06:11:33 PM
Read somewhere that Chelski are sniffing around.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: BestOfBrede on August 19, 2021, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 19, 2021, 04:47:43 PM
Sessegnon went for £25 million plus Onomah,  so why would we accept £20 million for Fabio ?
He's the type of exciting young talent that Villa will be interested in, great replacement eventually for Grealish.
Nah, he hasn't been been trained in faking injury, diving and waving at the ref for red cards as yet!
Perhaps he will pick it up quickly?

If we were to sell and be sensible then we would ask a minimum of 25m plus a 20% sell on clause!
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: cmg on August 19, 2021, 06:51:34 PM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 19, 2021, 06:11:33 PM
Read somewhere that Chelski are sniffing around.

Would the 'somewhere' possibly be a (the?) other Fulham forum? The one hilariously populated by large numbers by various nutters and fantacists (yes, many more than on here) several of whom delight in fabricating wild rumours and in slagging each other off?
It baldly stated, without attribution, that Chelsea are 'interested' - which, I am sure, is true of most of the football community. After all he is a very interesting young player isn't he? 'Sniffing around' would be an escalation. To be closely followed by 'in talks with', 'preparing an offer' and then 'swooping'.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: Cookie6262 on August 19, 2021, 07:29:00 PM
£20 million??? £4 million less than Ramsdale.... No one knows how a career will pan out but I expect Carvalho to be the best of the lot including Harvey Elliott.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: Nero on August 19, 2021, 07:58:07 PM
Quote from: cmg on August 19, 2021, 06:51:34 PM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 19, 2021, 06:11:33 PM
Read somewhere that Chelski are sniffing around.

Would the 'somewhere' possibly be a (the?) other Fulham forum? The one hilariously populated by large numbers by various nutters and fantacists (yes, many more than on here) several of whom delight in fabricating wild rumours and in slagging each other off?
It baldly stated, without attribution, that Chelsea are 'interested' - which, I am sure, is true of most of the football community. After all he is a very interesting young player isn't he? 'Sniffing around' would be an escalation. To be closely followed by 'in talks with', 'preparing an offer' and then 'swooping'.


Yes if I was a young player I deffo join Chelsea to be shipped put on loan every season and held to ransom to sign a new contract or not get a game even in the u23s
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: FFCFOREVER on August 19, 2021, 08:02:41 PM
Quote from: Ludlow Richard on August 19, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
.....someone offered £20 million for Fabio Carvalho, would you accept it?
No
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 19, 2021, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: cmg on August 19, 2021, 06:51:34 PM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 19, 2021, 06:11:33 PM
Read somewhere that Chelski are sniffing around.

Would the 'somewhere' possibly be a (the?) other Fulham forum? The one hilariously populated by large numbers by various nutters and fantacists (yes, many more than on here) several of whom delight in fabricating wild rumours and in slagging each other off?
It baldly stated, without attribution, that Chelsea are 'interested' - which, I am sure, is true of most of the football community. After all he is a very interesting young player isn't he? 'Sniffing around' would be an escalation. To be closely followed by 'in talks with', 'preparing an offer' and then 'swooping'.


Nope cmg this is the only forum I am on or indeed read (for my sins!)
I think it was either the Times or the Mail
Possibly linked to an article on Alan Hudson who we apparently turned down as not good enough for us so he went down the road to Chelsea & made it there. He apparently said that it would have been an honour to have worked with / supplied passes to our own Maestro Johnny Haynes.
He then managed that fulfil that role with Charlie Cook.   
Clearly Fabio is attracting lots of attention, from lots of other clubs.
We can only hope that he knows the history of many others of his academy colleagues who were persuaded to go on to better things but for their many expectations failing to realise.
Mario blooding him, giving him early chances to play in the first team @ least shows him opportunities, playing experience & value.
Certainly more than he would get than by signing away elsewhere to sit on the bench / be loaned out.
Much might depend on the team spirit being built along with senior players encouraging him.
As yet a work in progress his potential is great.   
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 19, 2021, 09:47:58 PM
Not if I could help it, if he refused to sign a new contract then yes.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 19, 2021, 10:43:13 PM
Definitely No, money does not score goals or have an impact helping to win games.
But good players do, money is worthless if you cannot spend it. 💷💰
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 20, 2021, 02:37:02 AM
Quote from: Ludlow Richard on August 19, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
.....someone offered £20 million for Fabio Carvalho, would you accept it?

Fabio Carvalho is likely to get his weaknesses found out in the first part of this season, his performances will temporarily decrease to the point he will be competing with Onamah to start for 9-18 months.

If we can sign him on a 5-year deal, then he is worth between £10m-£50m to us over the next five years. The huge range is because he is an unknown quantity. I believe signing Carvalho may mean selling Cairney.

If we cannot keep him for next season, then we should sell him for £2-10m (or highest offer) and get a loan player.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: AnOldBrownie on August 20, 2021, 03:03:28 AM
No. Gamble that in 3 years he'll be worth 40 mil...at least.

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Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: Porthogs FC on August 20, 2021, 03:41:49 AM
Was thinking about this, as many are. If we could get $20MM ish, and then a 2 year loan back.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 20, 2021, 03:54:52 AM
We are above the absolute maximum of our FFP budget, so we will have to sell someone for profit (probably in addition to Anguissa) in order to pay for Fabio Carvalho. Although selling either Anguissa and Cairney/Reed could make us pretty thin in midfield even with a few Championship reinforcements.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: bog on August 20, 2021, 09:48:14 AM
No.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: We Are Premier League on August 20, 2021, 10:26:16 AM
Only if we desperately need it for FFP and it comes with a loan back for the season and a 25% sell on clause.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: clarkey on August 20, 2021, 11:16:13 AM
No way, no point in having a Club if you sell the good players the minute they look like being genuine talents.

We'd just end up with a team of Frank Large look a likes then.
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: Blawarmy on August 20, 2021, 12:04:14 PM
No
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: mrmicawbers on August 20, 2021, 05:51:54 PM
Surely better to offer him an improved contract with maybe a signing fee.Also insert a fee of say 50 million if someone is willing to pay that once he signs
Title: Re: If you were Shahid Khan and.....
Post by: AshfordFFC on August 20, 2021, 06:16:16 PM
without a doubt that would be no !