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Title: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Caedal on August 28, 2021, 08:49:49 PM
Anyone watching this? It's not a good game...
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: _Putney_ on August 28, 2021, 08:51:46 PM
started to watch then gave up... zZzzZz
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Logicalman on August 28, 2021, 08:55:05 PM
If WBA are our biggest threat, then I'm not so concerned. p'boro are holding them w/out too much effort tbh.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Somerset Fulham on August 28, 2021, 08:55:48 PM
It's really hard work so far. 
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Caedal on August 28, 2021, 08:57:17 PM
I just had a look through their squad, as I've not watched them at all this season. I've got to admit, I thought they had a better squad than they actually do....

On this viewing aswell I thought Stoke looked a better side than them
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Caedal on August 28, 2021, 08:58:59 PM
Also they seem to have this obsession with long throw ins. It seems to be 90% of their attacking threat
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Tabby on August 28, 2021, 09:02:58 PM
WBA isn't really the kind of team that dominates the ball or outplays their opponents as far as I've seen. They rely on pressing for mistakes and set pieces.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Logicalman on August 28, 2021, 09:04:53 PM
Quote from: Caedal on August 28, 2021, 08:57:17 PM
I just had a look through their squad, as I've not watched them at all this season. I've got to admit, I thought they had a better squad than they actually do....

On this viewing aswell I thought Stoke looked a better side than them
Yep, they are relying on Livingstone, Phillips & Snodgrass to keep it all together. I've watched a couple of their games this season and they seem to pull through, though they don't have the free-flowing style they are accused of having by the commentators!
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Logicalman on August 28, 2021, 09:05:15 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 28, 2021, 09:02:58 PM
WBA isn't really the kind of team that dominates the ball or outplays their opponents as far as I've seen. They rely on pressing for mistakes and set pieces.

exactly.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Caedal on August 28, 2021, 09:46:50 PM
Literally all they do is long throws
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Tabby on August 28, 2021, 09:46:58 PM
I guess we could always start toweling the ball for a long throw if we ever need to waste time. A couple of minutes of this game have been Darnell Furlong wiping down the ball with a fans hoodie.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: AJW48361 on August 28, 2021, 09:54:10 PM
Baggies fans wont have too much of that football.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 28, 2021, 09:56:41 PM
Of course theyd scab it at the end
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: MayoDomo on August 28, 2021, 09:58:09 PM
Unfortunate about the end. Good news is we look miles ahead of them.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: grandad on August 28, 2021, 09:58:24 PM
Damn their luck.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Caedal on August 28, 2021, 09:59:08 PM
Lol of course
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: grandad on August 28, 2021, 10:00:23 PM
We are streets ahead  of WBA & Stoke.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: _Putney_ on August 28, 2021, 10:00:46 PM
unbelievable
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Somerset Fulham on August 28, 2021, 10:00:48 PM
With no disrespect to the Posh, if the Baggies are struggling to beat them using tactics from the 80's then we're going to be the team to beat.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on August 28, 2021, 10:08:56 PM
Poor Poshies... WBA got so lucky. That game, with their long throws... if that's emblematic of their style we could be miles ahead by Christmas.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Enfield on August 28, 2021, 10:09:14 PM
Jammy sods, win in the last seconds.
If they bring their towels to the cottage make sure we pick them up.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Sgt Fulham on August 28, 2021, 10:12:55 PM
I have said this before and will say it again. Long throws are not football, and should be banned. Such an embarrassing tactic. I hope West Brom are the unlucky victims when we finally decide to finish half of our chances.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Nestor the Chronicler on August 28, 2021, 10:22:19 PM
A normal WBA training day:
- 9-12 throw-ins practice
- 2-5 throw-ins practice
- 5-6 shower, towels, etc.
- 6-8 tactical session: towel distribution from stands to designated player.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: AJW48361 on August 28, 2021, 10:25:25 PM
They may cause us problems with those tactics.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Nestor the Chronicler on August 28, 2021, 10:33:08 PM
Quote from: AJW48361 on August 28, 2021, 10:25:25 PM
They may cause us problems with those tactics.

Apparently, Gazzaniga is world-class at reading long throws - the final jigsaw piece in our Championship winning season.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on August 28, 2021, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: Nestor the Chronicler on August 28, 2021, 10:33:08 PM
Quote from: AJW48361 on August 28, 2021, 10:25:25 PM
They may cause us problems with those tactics.

Apparently, Gazzaniga is world-class at reading long throws - the final jigsaw piece in our Championship winning season.

Where did you get this info from?
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Nero on August 28, 2021, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 28, 2021, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: Nestor the Chronicler on August 28, 2021, 10:33:08 PM
Quote from: AJW48361 on August 28, 2021, 10:25:25 PM
They may cause us problems with those tactics.

Apparently, Gazzaniga is world-class at reading long throws - the final jigsaw piece in our Championship winning season.

Where did you get this info from?

He said reading nothing about catching or dealing with
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on August 29, 2021, 12:14:58 AM
Quote from: Nero on August 28, 2021, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 28, 2021, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: Nestor the Chronicler on August 28, 2021, 10:33:08 PM
Quote from: AJW48361 on August 28, 2021, 10:25:25 PM
They may cause us problems with those tactics.

Apparently, Gazzaniga is world-class at reading long throws - the final jigsaw piece in our Championship winning season.

Where did you get this info from?

He said reading nothing about catching or dealing with

This made me cough out my food chuckling - I appreciate you
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Somerset Fulham on August 29, 2021, 03:12:21 AM
Darren Ferguson quote:

"He's managing a big, big club like West Brom, and I thought he was disrespectful and out of order. He needs to calm down. He's only got playoffs once, with Barnsley. He's not the god of football all of a sudden, he needs to calm down."

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Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Andy S on August 29, 2021, 03:28:49 AM
I would like to think so! There are normally only 3 or 4 outstanding teams in the championship. Usually the three relegated clubs and one or two promoted clubs. This season you can add QPR to that as they have bought well over the summer. So let's see what happens.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Logicalman on August 29, 2021, 04:29:48 AM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 28, 2021, 10:12:55 PM
I have said this before and will say it again. Long throws are not football, and should be banned. Such an embarrassing tactic. I hope West Brom are the unlucky victims when we finally decide to finish half of our chances.

I don't agree. The length of a kick, throw, header and whatever else that is currently legal way of moving the ball is totally acceptable, the long throw has been part and parcel of the game for almost 3 decades in England, albeit it wasn't until the likes of Delap who somewhat perfected the art, that it became truly part and parcel.

I do, however, totally disagree with the use of anything other than the kit the player is wearing being used to clean or dry the ball first. There was something mentioned that the FA stopped the use of towels (I thought it was around 2000), so WBA used tops and suchlike from fans today, and if that was illegal then the ref should have nipped that in the bud, instead he waited until very late in the game before saying something (if that was, in fact, what he was saying to the player).
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: RaySmith on August 29, 2021, 04:45:04 AM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 28, 2021, 10:12:55 PM
I have said this before and will say it again. Long throws are not football, and should be banned. Such an embarrassing tactic. I hope West Brom are the unlucky victims when we finally decide to finish half of our chances.

Quote from: Logicalman on August 29, 2021, 04:29:48 AM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 28, 2021, 10:12:55 PM
I have said this before and will say it again. Long throws are not football, and should be banned. Such an embarrassing tactic. I hope West Brom are the unlucky victims when we finally decide to finish half of our chances.

I don't agree. The length of a kick, throw, header and whatever else that is currently legal way of moving the ball is totally acceptable, the long throw has been part and parcel of the game for almost 3 decades in England, albeit it wasn't until the likes of Delap who somewhat perfected the art, that it became truly part and parcel.

I do, however, totally disagree with the use of anything other than the kit the player is wearing being used to clean or dry the ball first. There was something mentioned that the FA stopped the use of towels (I thought it was around 2000), so WBA used tops and suchlike from fans today, and if that was illegal then the ref should have nipped that in the bud, instead he waited until very late in the game before saying something (if that was, in fact, what he was saying to the player).

Agree, you can't ban them unless you change the rules of the game, but agree about banning the use of towels.

If you tried to ban certain throws, there would be debate about  whether the throw was  long enough to be illegal, more unnecessary hold up's in play.

I don't see anything wrong with them, they are a legitimate tactic.
Banning them would seem like an attempt to further tilt things in favour of the top sides - in that it's usually sides with less skilful players who use this tactic, and the long ball into the box.

WE might not like it if it's done against us, but if it's your team gaining an advantage through an entirely legitimate tactic, then you probably think it's a good thing.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: grandad on August 29, 2021, 08:49:52 AM
Our Jim Langley was one of the first players to adopt the long throw. Also the sliding tackle which would be classed as a foul these days.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Worcesterwhite on August 29, 2021, 10:04:20 AM
Surly it's time waisting if nothing else, it took an age for each throw in to be taken, the ref should have booked him at the first opportunity and nipped it in the bud.
Title: Re: Peterborough WBA
Post by: Ludlow Richard on August 29, 2021, 10:27:26 AM
Quote from: Logicalman on August 29, 2021, 04:29:48 AM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 28, 2021, 10:12:55 PM
I have said this before and will say it again. Long throws are not football, and should be banned. Such an embarrassing tactic. I hope West Brom are the unlucky victims when we finally decide to finish half of our chances.

I don't agree. The length of a kick, throw, header and whatever else that is currently legal way of moving the ball is totally acceptable, the long throw has been part and parcel of the game for almost 3 decades in England, albeit it wasn't until the likes of Delap who somewhat perfected the art, that it became truly part and parcel.

I do, however, totally disagree with the use of anything other than the kit the player is wearing being used to clean or dry the ball first. There was something mentioned that the FA stopped the use of towels (I thought it was around 2000), so WBA used tops and suchlike from fans today, and if that was illegal then the ref should have nipped that in the bud, instead he waited until very late in the game before saying something (if that was, in fact, what he was saying to the player).

I agree with a ban on the use of towels. But to me that is a trivial thing compared to the time wasting that takes place with a long throw. I've seen at the Cottage before where the opposition get a long throw near our left/the opponent's right corner flag. Then their left back strolls across the pitch to take the throw, dries the ball, giving time for the large centre halves to stroll up to our penalty area etc etc. By the time the long throw is taken, perhaps a minute has elapsed. If a normal throw in was being taken, the referee would be waving his arms at the player to get on with it after about 10 seconds. Somehow long throws appear outside the general rules of time in football. My solution would be that (a) the long throw has to be taken by a player within fifteen yards of where the ball went out of play and (b) any throw in has to be taken within 15 seconds of the ball going out of play (and of course no towels, hoodies etc).