Fulham fans, as we return to winning ways, what were your thoughts on tonight's 3-1 win over Swansea City? Nice to see Mitro back amongst the goals, with good performances from Kebano, Bryan and a few others. How did you think Silva lined up, were his tactics right, did he get the subs spot on? Let us know your post Match thoughts below
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Swansea reminded me of us under Parker.
A good win for the confidence but concerns about further injuries.
Good win overall, and has done Mitro a world of good after missing those chances at the end of the last game. I thought Odoi, Kebano and Seri played well also. Reed seems to be still catching up on match fitness but did ok. I would have liked to see Wilson given a chance at number 10 until Carvalho is back. Cav coming on is still a mystery.
I thought the change to 5 at the back after Bryan's injury, just totally killed the game for both teams, I personally would have shifted Ream to LB and kept the formation the same, but it worked anyway. Muniz looked pretty frustrated at one point, and I thought he was going to get himself sent off when the red mist came down and he almost kicked out
Roll on Coventry who were apparently abysmal defensively tonight. I hope we have a LB fit for that
We should have had another full back on the bench ,Christiefor hector lets say ,then we just bring Christie on and odoi goes to left full but in fairness we killed the game by goin 3 at the back ,IMO kebano was killing their defenders but got lost when we went 3 at the back .
Happy for the 3 points COYW
Cracking first half performance, as others have said the game went flat when we went to a back five.
Best players were Mitro, Odoi and Kebano. The negatives were how laboured we look at times trying to play out from the back, we do it time and time again. Seri was robbed a few times on the edge of our box and Ream and Reed were both a bit dodgy in their own half at times. We also give away cheap free kicks I dangerous areas too much. Defensively I feel there is huge improvement to be made, Swansea were fairly toothless up top and we didn't stop them from scoring which is telling. We haven't kept many clean sheets this season and you can see why.
On the flipside, Mitro is a top striker at this level and will bag 25+ goals, he was superb. Some of the counter attacking play was amazing but I did think Swansea were very poor in the first half and made it easy for us. Some of the interplay with our midfielders was high level and Kebano needs to stay in the team!
Overall, a solid performance but there will be sterner tests ahead.
In answer to did I agree with the subs , the cavaliero for Wilson i certainly wasn't happy about .
I was contemplating whether we're actually more of a counter-attacking side as not for the first time this season we've won and done well but scored a lot of our goals on the counter.
Swansea also dominated us with 60% possession at our ground and looked much better than a 3-1 scoreline.
Under pressure, whilst we managed to not concede more than one at times we did look vulnerable and they could've have arguably, like us admittedly, scored a few more and arguably should've.
I'm glad we won, mitro did very well and there were some great performances throughout the side - kebano, Bryan for instance.. but when mitro and Wilson went off, we definitely went a bit flat.
Let's see how we do against Coventry on the weekend.
Glad to see the win though against a good Swansea side.
People keep talking about dropping Ream (who has been top drawer for us all season so far) for Mawson, but personally I think Tosin is the weak link at the back right now and has been for a little while.
However, this was a good result tonight against another improving side. Obviously we blew them away in the first half, but it was almost as satisfying to see us fairly comfortably hold them at arms length in the second half when they were pushing to get back into it.
We are back on track here, and results mostly went our way tonight too, so as usual there will be no getting carried away in this neck of the woods but I am very pleased with the evenings work.
Quote from: bobbo on September 29, 2021, 10:48:12 PM
In answer to did I agree with the subs , the cavaliero for Wilson i certainly wasn't happy about .
Cav was poor again, which was disappointing to see as historically he's offered a lot more at this level. But the substitution given the scoreline seemed a logical thing to do given our next game is against 4th place in 3 days.
Quote from: General on September 29, 2021, 10:55:03 PM
Quote from: bobbo on September 29, 2021, 10:48:12 PM
In answer to did I agree with the subs , the cavaliero for Wilson i certainly wasn't happy about .
Cav was poor again, which was disappointing to see as historically he's offered a lot more at this level. But the substitution given the scoreline seemed a logical thing to do given our next game is against 4th place in 3 days.
I thought the subs were used to put pace on and put pressure on their push to avoid us completely sitting back. It worked. Cav was on for 19 mins and did what he was brought on to do.
Quote from: General on September 29, 2021, 10:52:27 PM
I was contemplating whether we're actually more of a counter-attacking side as not for the first time this season we've won and done well but scored a lot of our goals on the counter.
Swansea also dominated us with 60% possession at our ground and looked much better than a 3-1 scoreline.
Under pressure, whilst we managed to not concede more than one at times we did look vulnerable and they could've have arguably, like us admittedly, scored a few more and arguably should've.
I'm glad we won, mitro did very well and there were some great performances throughout the side - kebano, Bryan for instance.. but when mitro and Wilson went off, we definitely went a bit flat.
Let's see how we do against Coventry on the weekend.
Glad to see the win though against a good Swansea side.
They had 60% possession but did naff all with it. Was like watching Parkerball in that they passed the ball about and got near our 18 yard box and then thought "ah sh*t what now?". I reckon most of that was accumulated around their defenders in the second half when we shut up shop and allowed them to keep the ball at arms length, was just a very disciplined performance apart from Tosin and Odoi having major brain fades for their goal
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on September 29, 2021, 10:54:02 PM
People keep talking about dropping Ream (who has been top drawer for us all season so far) for Mawson, but personally I think Tosin is the weak link at the back right now and has been for a little while.
However, this was a good result tonight against another improving side. Obviously we blew them away in the first half, but it was almost as satisfying to see us fairly comfortably hold them at arms length in the second half when they were pushing to get back into it.
We are back on track here, and results mostly went our way tonight too, so as usual there will be no getting carried away in this neck of the woods but I am very pleased with the evenings work.
Hmm, he was at fault for their goal in my eyes, and it's not the first time this season his naivety has been a fault for us and seeing us look unsteady at the back - but he's pretty reliable usually and his height and ability in the tackle most of the time is pretty decent.
The height in particular is a big thing- tonight's team had seri, Reed, BDR, Wilson, neeskens and Bryan all in the line up and a shaky GK in Gazzaniga. Tosin does well when heading etc and dominates in a way perhaps we take for granted.
ThT said we do have Hector (who dominated at this level for us last time) and mawson who has been an England International so tempting to tweak. Is mawson a left footed player? Maybe that's why ream has had precedence.
Thought Odoi did very well today and aware both he and Bryan got assists.
Really feel Gazzaniga is a liability and would like to see as a priority Rodak given a shot in the sticks first out of any changes we make.
Quote from: Caedal on September 29, 2021, 10:08:39 PM
Good win overall, and has done Mitro a world of good after missing those chances at the end of the last game. I thought Odoi, Kebano and Seri played well also. Reed seems to be still catching up on match fitness but did ok. I would have liked to see Wilson given a chance at number 10 until Carvalho is back. Cav coming on is still a mystery.
I thought the change to 5 at the back after Bryan's injury, just totally killed the game for both teams, I personally would have shifted Ream to LB and kept the formation the same, but it worked anyway. Muniz looked pretty frustrated at one point, and I thought he was going to get himself sent off when the red mist came down and he almost kicked out
Roll on Coventry who were apparently abysmal defensively tonight. I hope we have a LB fit for that
I have to agree here. Once Bryan went off, our attack just seemed to sputter out. It really goes to show how much of an effect Bryan had on the game. I'm one of the few here who is for Bryan starting at left-back, but picking up this injury is not doing him any favors in taking the spot from Robinson.
Also, does anyone else think Muniz had a poor game today for the time he was on? He just looked lost out there and looked to be scrambling for everything. Kind of reminded me of Robinson, but as a striker...Imagine if his shot from inside our half had gone in. Just a little more height and power and it would have made it.
Great first half. Saw the game out in the second.
The five at the back was smart management. Their right winger gave Joe Bryan a hard time and was all set to have Tim Ream on toast. BDR did very well in what was effectively a man for man marking job.
Kebano played extremely well and deserves more starts. I'm still not convinced by Wilson's defensive work. Time and again Odoi is targeted and I don't think it's because he's a bad defender, it's because there's space around him. Cavaliero did much better helping out, but wasn't as useful going forwards.
Poor old Muniz watched Mitro get amazing service then received meagre scraps. I'd read nothing in to it.
Perhaps the most dazzling display was provided by.....the new stand floodlights. Will consider bringing Raybans for our next evening game.
We had better play better than that in future, if we want automatic promotion. We were outplayed in the second half and the best player on the pitch was Matt Grimes.....wish we had signed him. He seemed to have more ideas than most of our team.
Mitros 3rd goal was one of the best I've seen.
We are the better team and won.
Stats/Sofa score man has to be unhappy, they had more possession. Reach out to Scott Parker for answers there.
We were lucky?
Quote from: ealex40 on September 30, 2021, 12:02:07 AM
We had better play better than that in future, if we want automatic promotion. We were outplayed in the second half and the best player on the pitch was Matt Grimes.....wish we had signed him. He seemed to have more ideas than most of our team.
Really not sure how you come to the conclusion that they outplayed us in the second half (they didn't have a shot on target or make Gazza do anything of note) and how Grimes was the best player on the pitch, because he did nothing of note either. Sky quite rightly ripped into Swansea for our second goal because their midfield was casually jogging back as we attacked, and your best player on the pitch was one of those players who didn't help out defensively
We did very well at the end considering we had to play with ten men after Wilson was subbed.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 30, 2021, 01:25:15 AM
We did very well at the end considering we had to play with ten men after Wilson was subbed.
Thanks woolly backed up my comment
I think if we could ask the football league if we can play ALL of our games midweek we will remain unbeaten for the rest of the season 🤣😉👍⚽️⚽️
Quote from: Carborundum on September 29, 2021, 11:49:58 PM
Great first half. Saw the game out in the second.
The five at the back was smart management. Their right winger gave Joe Bryan a hard time and was all set to have Tim Ream on toast. BDR did very well in what was effectively a man for man marking job.
Kebano played extremely well and deserves more starts. I'm still not convinced by Wilson's defensive work. Time and again Odoi is targeted and I don't think it's because he's a bad defender, it's because there's space around him. Cavaliero did much better helping out, but wasn't as useful going forwards.
I have to agree, I think Wilson has been unimpressive in the last few games, basically since Brum. He has not created much - except the header from Kebano's cross against Bristol City - and has missed opportunities he has been given. I was thinking it was Tete we were missing on that side but Odoi played out of his skin last night so thinking it is Wilson's defensive nous that is missing. Our midfield on the right is short Reed, Wilson, Seri are all around 5'6" and we will get pushed around by a big midfield that presses.
Great to see Mitro score three but it would be nice to see others chipping in with a goal more often.
Terrible miss by BDR after a great build up in the first half.
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Quote from: Somerset Fulham on September 29, 2021, 10:54:02 PM
People keep talking about dropping Ream (who has been top drawer for us all season so far) for Mawson, but personally I think Tosin is the weak link at the back right now and has been for a little while.
However, this was a good result tonight against another improving side. Obviously we blew them away in the first half, but it was almost as satisfying to see us fairly comfortably hold them at arms length in the second half when they were pushing to get back into it.
We are back on track here, and results mostly went our way tonight too, so as usual there will be no getting carried away in this neck of the woods but I am very pleased with the evenings work.
Hmm, he was at fault for their goal in my eyes, and it's not the first time this season his naivety has been a fault for us and seeing us look unsteady at the back - but he's pretty reliable usually and his height and ability in the tackle most of the time is pretty decent.
The height in particular is a big thing- tonight's team had seri, Reed, BDR, Wilson, neeskens and Bryan all in the line up and a shaky GK in Gazzaniga. Tosin does well when heading etc and dominates in a way perhaps we take for granted.
ThT said we do have Hector (who dominated at this level for us last time) and mawson who has been an England International so tempting to tweak. Is mawson a left footed player? Maybe that's why ream has had precedence.
Thought Odoi did very well today and aware both he and Bryan got assists.
Really feel Gazzaniga is a liability and would like to see as a priority Rodak given a shot in the sticks first out of any changes we make.
Agree about Gazzaniga-in the previous game he stayed on his line as a header went over the bar from no more than 6 yards out, the goal from Swansea seemed to be miscommunication between him and Denis, and as the ball was coming towards him (Gazz) he should have called to deal with it. Then he attempted to fist a cross clear and was outjumped by a Swan forward and missed it completely. He seems to be having a charmed run in that respect, yes a few good saves but not dealing with the basics very well.
And still the Gazza scapegoating goes on and on.
It's not scapegoating. He is making basic goalkeeper errors which to date he has got away with in the main. The missed punch at the corner on the edge of the 6 yard box is just another error in a long list that fortunately went unpunished
Quote from: ealex40 on September 30, 2021, 12:02:07 AM
We had better play better than that in future, if we want automatic promotion. We were outplayed in the second half and the best player on the pitch was Matt Grimes.....wish we had signed him. He seemed to have more ideas than most of our team.
Grimes is obviously a good player but most of his stuff was slow, sideways or backwards. Not at all sure he has the game for Silverball. Parkerball would suit his skill set perfectly.
Quote from: SG on October 01, 2021, 09:16:09 AM
It's not scapegoating. He is making basic goalkeeper errors which to date he has got away with in the main. The missed punch at the corner on the edge of the 6 yard box is just another error in a long list that fortunately went unpunished
So one missed punch at a corner and you want him dropped? Name a goalkeeper that doesn't miss a punch or doesn't get beaten at the near post. EVDS is considered the best keeper Fulham ever had but he made mistakes, Areola is well up there with the best but made mistakes. There's probably a good reason why Rodak didn't start this season as no.1 or was dropped for Areola last year.
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Quote from: SG on October 01, 2021, 09:16:09 AM
It's not scapegoating. He is making basic goalkeeper errors which to date he has got away with in the main. The missed punch at the corner on the edge of the 6 yard box is just another error in a long list that fortunately went unpunished
So one missed punch at a corner and you want him dropped? Name a goalkeeper that doesn't miss a punch or doesn't get beaten at the near post. EVDS is considered the best keeper Fulham ever had but he made mistakes, Areola is well up there with the best but made mistakes. There's probably a good reason why Rodak didn't start this season as no.1 or was dropped for Areola last year.
Areola is miles of class ahead of either Rodak or Gazzaniga, so not sure why he keeps getting mentioned.
More important, our goalkeeper's role in this league is distinctly different and simpler than Areola's last season. We need our keeper to handle the simple stuff so we don't concede cheaply and maybe make One Big Save in a match. That's it. And Gazzaniga is routinely failing to do either. He either stays rooted to his line or butchers coming for crosses (and we haven't been punished nearly enough b/c of it yet) and the only saves I can recall when a game was still in the balance was cleaning up for Ream's mistake at Blackpool (where he then conceded a weak goal and we lost 1-0 anyway) and the one that was put away (offside) on the rebound vs Bristol. He made a couple good ones at Birmingham, but we were well ahead at the time.
I'm not saying he's bad or whatever ... but he hasn't been very good at all for us so far. The manager prefers him, so I assume he'll stay in until he truly costs us valuable points, but I for one don't understand why we would wait that long on the evidence presented.
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Quote from: SG on October 01, 2021, 09:16:09 AM
It's not scapegoating. He is making basic goalkeeper errors which to date he has got away with in the main. The missed punch at the corner on the edge of the 6 yard box is just another error in a long list that fortunately went unpunished
So one missed punch at a corner and you want him dropped? Name a goalkeeper that doesn't miss a punch or doesn't get beaten at the near post. EVDS is considered the best keeper Fulham ever had but he made mistakes, Areola is well up there with the best but made mistakes. There's probably a good reason why Rodak didn't start this season as no.1 or was dropped for Areola last year.
Areola is miles of class ahead of either Rodak or Gazzaniga, so not sure why he keeps getting mentioned.
More important, our goalkeeper's role in this league is distinctly different and simpler than Areola's last season. We need our keeper to handle the simple stuff so we don't concede cheaply and maybe make One Big Save in a match. That's it. And Gazzaniga is routinely failing to do either. He either stays rooted to his line or butchers coming for crosses (and we haven't been punished nearly enough b/c of it yet) and the only saves I can recall when a game was still in the balance was cleaning up for Ream's mistake at Blackpool (where he then conceded a weak goal and we lost 1-0 anyway) and the one that was put away (offside) on the rebound vs Bristol. He made a couple good ones at Birmingham, but we were well ahead at the time.
I'm not saying he's bad or whatever ... but he hasn't been very good at all for us so far. The manager prefers him, so I assume he'll stay in until he truly costs us valuable points, but I for one don't understand why we would wait that long on the evidence presented.
So what you are saying is you want Gazza to cock up monumentally so that he gets dropped? You truly are a great fan. All goalkeepers make mistakes it happens. Rodak has played 2 league games in the last 18 months and conceded 5 goals. 3 against Arsenal then got dropped and then 2 against a piss poor Newcastle who only stayed up because we threw the opportunity away. He is not our no.1, he has been at the club long enough to stake that claim but it hasn't happened. Silva and the goalkeeping coaches work with him and Gazza every day. Gazza is our number 1 and so be it.
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Quote from: SG on October 01, 2021, 09:16:09 AM
It's not scapegoating. He is making basic goalkeeper errors which to date he has got away with in the main. The missed punch at the corner on the edge of the 6 yard box is just another error in a long list that fortunately went unpunished
So one missed punch at a corner and you want him dropped? Name a goalkeeper that doesn't miss a punch or doesn't get beaten at the near post. EVDS is considered the best keeper Fulham ever had but he made mistakes, Areola is well up there with the best but made mistakes. There's probably a good reason why Rodak didn't start this season as no.1 or was dropped for Areola last year.
Areola is miles of class ahead of either Rodak or Gazzaniga, so not sure why he keeps getting mentioned.
More important, our goalkeeper's role in this league is distinctly different and simpler than Areola's last season. We need our keeper to handle the simple stuff so we don't concede cheaply and maybe make One Big Save in a match. That's it. And Gazzaniga is routinely failing to do either. He either stays rooted to his line or butchers coming for crosses (and we haven't been punished nearly enough b/c of it yet) and the only saves I can recall when a game was still in the balance was cleaning up for Ream's mistake at Blackpool (where he then conceded a weak goal and we lost 1-0 anyway) and the one that was put away (offside) on the rebound vs Bristol. He made a couple good ones at Birmingham, but we were well ahead at the time.
I'm not saying he's bad or whatever ... but he hasn't been very good at all for us so far. The manager prefers him, so I assume he'll stay in until he truly costs us valuable points, but I for one don't understand why we would wait that long on the evidence presented.
So what you are saying is you want Gazza to cock up monumentally so that he gets dropped? You truly are a great fan. All goalkeepers make mistakes it happens. Rodak has played 2 league games in the last 18 months and conceded 5 goals. 3 against Arsenal then got dropped and then 2 against a piss poor Newcastle who only stayed up because we threw the opportunity away. He is not our no.1, he has been at the club long enough to stake that claim but it hasn't happened. Silva and the goalkeeping coaches work with him and Gazza every day. Gazza is our number 1 and so be it.
He may well be our number 1 in the coaches eyes but the last time I looked we live in a democratic society and therefore we are entitled to hold a different view. From what I see Gazza has some weaknesses which are likely to be exposed in the championship where many teams lob the ball into the box, pressuring keepers either with long throws, free kicks and corners. I don't appear to be alone in this view.
In my opinion (if I am allowed one) Maik Taylor was our greatest unsung keeper, far better than he is created with being
Areola and probably EDS are the best I have seen in a Fulham shirt, apart from Macedo
Gazzininga has good distribution is very quick and he has a long kick but my bottle does twitch when its getting messy in the area
If i was center half (apart form the fact we would be conceeding 10 goals a game if i was) I would feel happier having Rodak behind me
He doesn't leave the ground when dealing with crosses 6ft 5in and can't handle high balls.
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Quote from: SG on October 01, 2021, 09:16:09 AM
It's not scapegoating. He is making basic goalkeeper errors which to date he has got away with in the main. The missed punch at the corner on the edge of the 6 yard box is just another error in a long list that fortunately went unpunished
So one missed punch at a corner and you want him dropped? Name a goalkeeper that doesn't miss a punch or doesn't get beaten at the near post. EVDS is considered the best keeper Fulham ever had but he made mistakes, Areola is well up there with the best but made mistakes. There's probably a good reason why Rodak didn't start this season as no.1 or was dropped for Areola last year.
Areola is miles of class ahead of either Rodak or Gazzaniga, so not sure why he keeps getting mentioned.
More important, our goalkeeper's role in this league is distinctly different and simpler than Areola's last season. We need our keeper to handle the simple stuff so we don't concede cheaply and maybe make One Big Save in a match. That's it. And Gazzaniga is routinely failing to do either. He either stays rooted to his line or butchers coming for crosses (and we haven't been punished nearly enough b/c of it yet) and the only saves I can recall when a game was still in the balance was cleaning up for Ream's mistake at Blackpool (where he then conceded a weak goal and we lost 1-0 anyway) and the one that was put away (offside) on the rebound vs Bristol. He made a couple good ones at Birmingham, but we were well ahead at the time.
I'm not saying he's bad or whatever ... but he hasn't been very good at all for us so far. The manager prefers him, so I assume he'll stay in until he truly costs us valuable points, but I for one don't understand why we would wait that long on the evidence presented.
So what you are saying is you want Gazza to cock up monumentally so that he gets dropped? You truly are a great fan. All goalkeepers make mistakes it happens. Rodak has played 2 league games in the last 18 months and conceded 5 goals. 3 against Arsenal then got dropped and then 2 against a piss poor Newcastle who only stayed up because we threw the opportunity away. He is not our no.1, he has been at the club long enough to stake that claim but it hasn't happened. Silva and the goalkeeping coaches work with him and Gazza every day. Gazza is our number 1 and so be it.
He may well be our number 1 in the coaches eyes but the last time I looked we live in a democratic society and therefore we are entitled to hold a different view. From what I see Gazza has some weaknesses which are likely to be exposed in the championship where many teams lob the ball into the box, pressuring keepers either with long throws, free kicks and corners. I don't appear to be alone in this view.
You're not alone. Just stating facts.
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Quote from: SG on October 01, 2021, 09:16:09 AM
It's not scapegoating. He is making basic goalkeeper errors which to date he has got away with in the main. The missed punch at the corner on the edge of the 6 yard box is just another error in a long list that fortunately went unpunished
So one missed punch at a corner and you want him dropped? Name a goalkeeper that doesn't miss a punch or doesn't get beaten at the near post. EVDS is considered the best keeper Fulham ever had but he made mistakes, Areola is well up there with the best but made mistakes. There's probably a good reason why Rodak didn't start this season as no.1 or was dropped for Areola last year.
Areola is miles of class ahead of either Rodak or Gazzaniga, so not sure why he keeps getting mentioned.
More important, our goalkeeper's role in this league is distinctly different and simpler than Areola's last season. We need our keeper to handle the simple stuff so we don't concede cheaply and maybe make One Big Save in a match. That's it. And Gazzaniga is routinely failing to do either. He either stays rooted to his line or butchers coming for crosses (and we haven't been punished nearly enough b/c of it yet) and the only saves I can recall when a game was still in the balance was cleaning up for Ream's mistake at Blackpool (where he then conceded a weak goal and we lost 1-0 anyway) and the one that was put away (offside) on the rebound vs Bristol. He made a couple good ones at Birmingham, but we were well ahead at the time.
I'm not saying he's bad or whatever ... but he hasn't been very good at all for us so far. The manager prefers him, so I assume he'll stay in until he truly costs us valuable points, but I for one don't understand why we would wait that long on the evidence presented.
So what you are saying is you want Gazza to cock up monumentally so that he gets dropped? You truly are a great fan.
I literally said the exact opposite -- I want to sit him before he makes a massive cockup that costs us (more) points.
Has he actually cost us any points? I can't think of any off of the top of my head.
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Quote from: SG on October 01, 2021, 09:16:09 AM
It's not scapegoating. He is making basic goalkeeper errors which to date he has got away with in the main. The missed punch at the corner on the edge of the 6 yard box is just another error in a long list that fortunately went unpunished
So one missed punch at a corner and you want him dropped? Name a goalkeeper that doesn't miss a punch or doesn't get beaten at the near post. EVDS is considered the best keeper Fulham ever had but he made mistakes, Areola is well up there with the best but made mistakes. There's probably a good reason why Rodak didn't start this season as no.1 or was dropped for Areola last year.
Areola is miles of class ahead of either Rodak or Gazzaniga, so not sure why he keeps getting mentioned.
More important, our goalkeeper's role in this league is distinctly different and simpler than Areola's last season. We need our keeper to handle the simple stuff so we don't concede cheaply and maybe make One Big Save in a match. That's it. And Gazzaniga is routinely failing to do either. He either stays rooted to his line or butchers coming for crosses (and we haven't been punished nearly enough b/c of it yet) and the only saves I can recall when a game was still in the balance was cleaning up for Ream's mistake at Blackpool (where he then conceded a weak goal and we lost 1-0 anyway) and the one that was put away (offside) on the rebound vs Bristol. He made a couple good ones at Birmingham, but we were well ahead at the time.
I'm not saying he's bad or whatever ... but he hasn't been very good at all for us so far. The manager prefers him, so I assume he'll stay in until he truly costs us valuable points, but I for one don't understand why we would wait that long on the evidence presented.
So what you are saying is you want Gazza to cock up monumentally so that he gets dropped? You truly are a great fan.
I literally said the exact opposite -- I want to sit him before he makes a massive cockup that costs us (more) points.
So you want a player dropped because he might cost us points.......
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I literally said the exact opposite -- I want to sit him before he makes a massive cockup that costs us (more) points.
So you want a player dropped because he might cost us points.......
Why else would people want him to be dropped, not rating his hairstyle?
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Quote from: Denver Fulham on October 01, 2021, 05:44:08 PM
Quote from: cookieg on October 01, 2021, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: SG on October 01, 2021, 09:16:09 AM
It's not scapegoating. He is making basic goalkeeper errors which to date he has got away with in the main. The missed punch at the corner on the edge of the 6 yard box is just another error in a long list that fortunately went unpunished
So one missed punch at a corner and you want him dropped? Name a goalkeeper that doesn't miss a punch or doesn't get beaten at the near post. EVDS is considered the best keeper Fulham ever had but he made mistakes, Areola is well up there with the best but made mistakes. There's probably a good reason why Rodak didn't start this season as no.1 or was dropped for Areola last year.
Areola is miles of class ahead of either Rodak or Gazzaniga, so not sure why he keeps getting mentioned.
More important, our goalkeeper's role in this league is distinctly different and simpler than Areola's last season. We need our keeper to handle the simple stuff so we don't concede cheaply and maybe make One Big Save in a match. That's it. And Gazzaniga is routinely failing to do either. He either stays rooted to his line or butchers coming for crosses (and we haven't been punished nearly enough b/c of it yet) and the only saves I can recall when a game was still in the balance was cleaning up for Ream's mistake at Blackpool (where he then conceded a weak goal and we lost 1-0 anyway) and the one that was put away (offside) on the rebound vs Bristol. He made a couple good ones at Birmingham, but we were well ahead at the time.
I'm not saying he's bad or whatever ... but he hasn't been very good at all for us so far. The manager prefers him, so I assume he'll stay in until he truly costs us valuable points, but I for one don't understand why we would wait that long on the evidence presented.
So what you are saying is you want Gazza to cock up monumentally so that he gets dropped? You truly are a great fan.
I literally said the exact opposite -- I want to sit him before he makes a massive cockup that costs us (more) points.
So you want a player dropped because he might cost us points.......
And what do you know, he has.
