Just heard on the wireless that he has left Newcastle by mutual consent. With that in my i have always thought that he is one manager who has never had a distinctive style to his teams his managed. I have never heard it mentioned that's a Steve Bruce team?
Remember just before play off against Villa and it was all Bruce this Bruce that but i was as confident as you could be that Villa had no real pattern and relied heavily on Grealish even back then. You knew Fulham was a Slav team with a distinctive style!
I have always thought he needs owners with deep pockets to be a somewhat successful manager as there is no substance to how he sets a team up and a playing style. I think his been quite fortunate in having all the managerial opportunities his had since retiring from playing.
I tend to agree he has been lucky to get jobs.
Expect him to be on Cardiff's short list soon......
He never needs to work again, thank God many say. 60 years old with an 8 million pay off. He will now become a Sky pundit & join all the other useless ones.
Jimmy. Glad to see you still use the term 'the wireless'. :54:
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I always thought that he was an honest manager and frankly keeping Newcastle in the premiership was an achievement
Quote from: St Eve on October 20, 2021, 12:39:50 PM
I always thought that he was an honest manager and frankly keeping Newcastle in the premiership was an achievement
Agree.
Quote from: St Eve on October 20, 2021, 12:39:50 PM
I always thought that he was an honest manager and frankly keeping Newcastle in the premiership was an achievement
He's certainly had a tough job at Newcastle and has done ok fr them in the circumstances. He isn't a manager who plays with a a distinctive style, neither the dour or long ball stuff nor extreme tippy tappy possession. Just an honest hard working pro., not glamorous or a media type but a bit of a steady eddie.
I don't mind Steve Bruce, gets a lot of flack but has done reasonably well in management
I'd take him all day long over Mark Hughes
Good luck to him and F the Geordie Maggots
Quote from: perry geyton on October 20, 2021, 03:33:49 PM
I don't mind Steve Bruce, gets a lot of flack but has done reasonably well in management
I'd take him all day long over Mark Hughes
Good luck to him and F the Geordie Maggots
Not sure I'd want either tbh. If you want to know what Parker will be like at 60 look at Bruce.
Quote from: RaySmith on October 20, 2021, 01:02:41 PM
Quote from: St Eve on October 20, 2021, 12:39:50 PM
I always thought that he was an honest manager and frankly keeping Newcastle in the premiership was an achievement
Agree.
+1 there's always been a huge entitlement about Newcastle with fans thinking they're a bigger club then they have actually been, bar the Kevin keegan era.. in my lifetime they've always been - well poor to average.., even getting relegated a few times.
They've also had a poor squad and an owner who they all hated but who ran the club to the point he could but didn't have the budget to compete anymore with big spenders. Think they forget that Ashley did a lot for them and was also partly the reason they've got the wealthiest owners in world football now.
Bruce did a decent job to keep them up last season.
Let's watch the big 6 get the hump with them - they're going to buy trophy's.....will the superleague be making a resurgence...... it's going to be an interesting time
There was a time in the Fifties they won the FA Cup three times, I think then they had won it more than any other club. Steve Bruce seems an OK guy, who's taken a lot of stick.
Dreadful manager that has stolen a living and shat on quite a number of his employers in the past as well. He has a dire brand of football and has produced nothing but averageness wherever he has gone.
He comes across as a reasonably nice guy (unless you are one of the clubs that he spaffed all over), but that's it.
I always liked Steve Bruce.
Came across as genuine.
When posters say that he is an honest manager and has done quite well, what does that refer to? Is it what he did in the Championship more than a decade ago? And what does honest mean in this context?
Because when I watch his teams it is like they have no clue about what they are supposed to be doing, or why. At best he gets teams to look bang average, but mostly they look just poor. But that is just my opinion.
They love him down at Palace
Never understood the stick that seems to be directed towards Steve Bruce. He's won four promotions to the PL, and took Birmingham and Sunderland to top 10 PL finishes. His record at Newcastle was pretty much identical to cult-hero Benitez, yet all he gets is abuse. Weird
Another big pay day though.
Quote from: bobby01 on October 21, 2021, 11:14:53 AM
Another big pay day though.
8 million quid; let's not feel too sorry for the fella.....
Quote from: MartyFFC on October 21, 2021, 11:20:43 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on October 21, 2021, 11:14:53 AM
Another big pay day though.
8 million quid; let's not feel too sorry for the fella.....
I always had time for Newcastle and their big fan base , Bruce always seemed a good honest manager to me as well.
Both seem to have hit the jackpot, Newcastle with the Saudi money and Bruce with the 8 million pay off. I may be changing my view of both of them.
Sting of the North
"And what does honest mean in this context? "
For me this is relatively simply - I have heard Bruce say on many occasions things like
"We were lucky to get away with that result today " or " It's not the players - I set us up wrong " ( very much like Mick MCarthy saying " call the police " after we trounced Ipswich. That is honest and most managers don't do this . There is the other type of " honest " and to give you a clue managers like Big Sam and Colin don't come close to filling that definition
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 20, 2021, 10:00:12 PM
When posters say that he is an honest manager and has done quite well, what does that refer to? Is it what he did in the Championship more than a decade ago? And what does honest mean in this context?
Because when I watch his teams it is like they have no clue about what they are supposed to be doing, or why. At best he gets teams to look bang average, but mostly they look just poor. But that is just my opinion.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan, but competing with Rafa's record at Newcastle, and managing to 13th last season with a fairly average side, is quite the achievement. He's limited, generally plays turgid football and hasn't lived up to expectations but he's done alright. Hell, we gave Parker may more credit for far less.
If he changed his name to Paulo and learnt some Portuguese, I guarantee he would be held in far higher regard
Quote from: St Eve on October 20, 2021, 12:39:50 PM
I always thought that he was an honest manager and frankly keeping Newcastle in the premiership was an achievement
I honestly think he just got lucky, because he surely didn't do much special. My Newcastle supporting friends were in disbelief the whole time that they somehow stayed up.
Sticking in my mind to this day is when at Birmingham and playing us near the end of the season , I watched him direct Jermaine pennant to the other side of the pitch and then subbed him. So much for honesty eh.
Oh I forgot they were winning one nil.
Quote from: bobbo on October 22, 2021, 12:31:43 PM
Sticking in my mind to this day is when at Birmingham and playing us near the end of the season , I watched him direct Jermaine pennant to the other side of the pitch and then subbed him. So much for honesty eh.
Oh I forgot they were winning one nil.
Not being funny, but we've been bloody dreadful for that sort of behaviour over the years.
Quote from: bobbo on October 22, 2021, 12:31:43 PM
Sticking in my mind to this day is when at Birmingham and playing us near the end of the season , I watched him direct Jermaine pennant to the other side of the pitch and then subbed him. So much for honesty eh.
Oh I forgot they were winning one nil.
that has nothing to do with honesty. Gazzaniga wastes time if we are 1 up after 5 minutes.
St eve and 1987 ,I take your point , but the topic is on Steve Bruce not gazzaniga or other of OUR players .
Quote from: bobbo on October 23, 2021, 12:49:04 PM
St eve and 1987 ,I take your point , but the topic is on Steve Bruce not gazzaniga or other of OUR players .
But how does that make him dishonest?
The issue I pointed out was cheating and if that's not dishonest then I don't know .
"My P45 meant they wanted rid...
But told me I'd trouser eight million quid.
So I'll now take it easy; the Toon will fund it...
and maybe talk s***e as a TV pundit"
Quote from: bobbo on October 23, 2021, 01:48:18 PM
The issue I pointed out was cheating and if that's not dishonest then I don't know .
Fair enough. Seeing as every team do it, I just think its part of the game rather than specifically a Steve Bruce thing but each to their own.
1987, I agree 100% they do all do it including us although being a bit biased I've not notice us do it .
