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Title: Michael Hector
Post by: SW London Addick on February 03, 2023, 11:01:02 AM
Hello,
Charlton fan here. We signed your Michael Hector on Tuesday, and he looks on paper to be a potentially very good acquisition for us, having played at a higher level than the one we are currently find ourselves condemned to :-(
He clearly didn't feature much for you in the Premier League, and I was wondering why that is? I guess if he had done he wouldn't have become available to us though I guess. Is just nor reliable enough at the top level?

Also, having only played four matches in the last couple of years would anyone know if he's been able to play reserve matches, or behind closed door games to maintain fitness? I suspect you only have U21 & U23 teams, so how do older squad players at Fulham stay match ready?

Any info gratefully received, cheers!

PS Not being a fan of Crystal Palace and Chelsea I'm always happy to see you doing well!
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Kimbleman on February 03, 2023, 11:03:56 AM
In my opinion he should do a good job for you. Definitely Championship standard and as a free agent, so no fees it's a no brainer 👍👌
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: ffcthereligion on February 03, 2023, 11:12:00 AM
I have never once been so deceived by a player as Michael Hector. Thought he was absolutely immense second half of Parker promotion season, but woefully inadequate at premier league level and then never really played again. Be warned, he absolutely loves a long diagonal cross field ball many of which go out of play.

That said, think he will do a good job for you at the level, and i hope he does. Always liked my visits to Charlton and would be good to see you flourishing as opposed to some other more contemptible London clubs
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Craven Mad on February 03, 2023, 11:36:02 AM
He's very likeable and competent at championship level, but has a tendency to lose focus and let his positioning slip (which wasn't an issue in the Championship, but was repeatedly punished during his few appearances in the Prem).

I think he's a good signing for you.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Southdowns White on February 03, 2023, 11:41:24 AM
I have always thought of Charlton as a South East London twin to Fulham, For most of my years following Fulham we were often playing each other. As a boy Charlton was the first away game I went to without adult supervision, I have been there many times and your supporters I have met always come across well. Would be nice to see you rise to rival West Ham in the East. Good luck for the future.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: RaySmith on February 03, 2023, 11:48:39 AM
Have a soft spot for Charlton - my Uncle John was a big fan, although we lived in a Palace supporting area, but he came from down that way, and took me to the Valley a couple of times - this would have been late 50's/early 60's - I may even have began  supporting Fulham at that time, and have been several times since as a Fulham fan.

I was definitely impressed with the size of the Valley, and am very glad Charlton have managed to survive despite all your problems - long may you continue and prosper. A club with a proud history too.

Re Hector - yes, agree with above,  think he may have been player of the season for us in the Championship, but  sadly seemed out of his  depth in the Prem - I thought he had confidence problems then, too - maybe another manager would have helped.

But most definitely a top defender below Prem level, a  good signing for you I think.

All the best to you and your team.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 03, 2023, 11:49:33 AM
I went to Charlton to see Sam Bartrams last game in goal for Charlton before he retired.
I thought he was the best goal keeper never to be picked to play for England.
That match had to be in the fifties i would have thought as the memory fades.

I reckon Michael Hector should do a good job for you.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 03, 2023, 11:54:53 AM
He started really really well with us and then his form just fell off a cliff.  (I can't remember if it was after the first wave of Covid that happened?)    If you look at his career stats and the numerous clubs he's been at it all looks a bit odd, even allowing for one season loans he doesn't seem to have 'stickability'.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Kingjay81 on February 03, 2023, 11:55:28 AM
If he gets his game back to where it was then he is good enough to be one of the best centre backs around at championship level.

Hopefully he can get there and if so, will be immense in league one.

Good luck to him. Seemed a good bloke.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: bencher on February 03, 2023, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 03, 2023, 11:54:53 AM
He started really really well with us and then his form just fell off a cliff.  (I can't remember if it was after the first wave of Covid that happened?)    If you look at his career stats and the numerous clubs he's been at it all looks a bit odd, even allowing for one season loans he doesn't seem to have 'stickability'.

He was outstanding from January 2020 until March 2020 when Covid interrupted the season. I would go so far as to say if he hadn't been playing in that period we may not have been in the play-offs by season end. After the re-start, he didn't look the same player (apart from one superb clearance/tackle from virtually on the line during the play-offs v Cardiff). In the PL he looked well off the pace and never got a look in after that, apart from a couple of ok appearances last season when filling in for suspension. If he can find his form again he is a top of the Championship level defender.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Whitestone on February 03, 2023, 12:01:04 PM
Charlton have had a result getting Hector. I'm surprised that a player of his ability didn't get an offer from a Championship side in the August window, let alone January. He'll boss League one. He should partner up well with Steve Sess on the right side of him.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: filham on February 03, 2023, 12:03:33 PM
Hector ws great for us in the Championship but completely went out of the picture when we were promoted. No idea what he has been doing for rlast few years, we have seen little of him.

In my early days of watching football Sam Bartram was a huge character and a pretty good goalkeeper as well.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Chutney on February 03, 2023, 12:17:54 PM
he's a top tier championship cb
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 03, 2023, 12:26:16 PM
Quote from: bencher on February 03, 2023, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 03, 2023, 11:54:53 AM
He started really really well with us and then his form just fell off a cliff.  (I can't remember if it was after the first wave of Covid that happened?)    If you look at his career stats and the numerous clubs he's been at it all looks a bit odd, even allowing for one season loans he doesn't seem to have 'stickability'.

He was outstanding from January 2020 until March 2020 when Covid interrupted the season. I would go so far as to say if he hadn't been playing in that period we may not have been in the play-offs by season end. After the re-start, he didn't look the same player (apart from one superb clearance/tackle from virtually on the line during the play-offs v Cardiff). In the PL he looked well off the pace and never got a look in after that, apart from a couple of ok appearances last season when filling in for suspension. If he can find his form again he is a top of the Championship level defender.
Thanks for the clearer recall than I could manage.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: H4usuallysitting on February 03, 2023, 12:54:04 PM
If he concentrates for 90 minute's he'll do a great job for you
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: bog on February 03, 2023, 01:08:16 PM
Hello there,

Were you there, or do you know anyone who was for the famous Charlton 7 Huddersfield Town 6 in about 1958? Phenomenal match

Good luck with Michael he was good for us in the Championship.  :54:


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Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Motspur Park on February 03, 2023, 01:19:13 PM
Is it just me? My daughter was attacked in a bar after a brawl broke out  around 15 years ago at Charlton and left with horrible facial injuries. They did heal. I wasn't there for that game.

A few years ago we beat them at the Cottage and as we came out of the Putney End  (I was with my daughter), a number walked of their fans behind us (I wasn't listening) were trashing Fulham and they were tripping her from behind. Yes I lost my cool and it did kick off a bit. They then followed us out of the ground and as we made our way down one of the side streets, their big, brave fans were throwing coins at us.

Appreciate all clubs have their scum element, but I hate them.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: General on February 03, 2023, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: Chutney on February 03, 2023, 12:17:54 PM
he's a top tier championship cb

Agree, definitely top half Championship CB. It was a bit confusing to see what happened to him at the club. He was a breath of fresh air when he first signed and made a huge difference to our defence when we got promoted to the premiership.

Got exposed too easily in the premiership sadly, but even then, when we went back down to the Championship he was hardly used aside from a couple of games (one we won 6 or 7 nil/1).

I think many Fulham fans were surprised to see him let go by Fulham so readily and then additionally not get picked up by a club quickly, as he was genuinely a good championship defender.

My only thought is that he may have suffered a significant confidence blow upon playing in the PL and then when he wasn't given much of a second chance that played into it and perhaps he suffered with depression. He's had trials at a few clubs, but despite all of us knowing he's a solid top championship CB, he didn't get signed.

I think he'll be very good for Charlton, maybe a club where he can fall in love with the game again. If he does that, then I've no doubt he and Sessegnon can create a solid defence for promotion.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: General on February 03, 2023, 02:44:02 PM
Interestingly, he played 5 times for us last season, winning three matches against Blacburn (7-0), Peterborough (1-0), Barnsley (4-1) and losing the one we all ignore against Sheff Utd, the last game of the season, where our players didn't turn up and had already won the league. He also played one cup game (over 120 minutes) which we won 1-0.

So as a CB against Championship opposition in 480 minutes he was on a team that conceded 5 goals, but 4 of those were in one match. 3 were shut outs. Obviously we had a very good team for that level, but he still had to play his part at CB. Two 1-0's would suggest close matches and the opposition getting chances.

We also had Chalobah in CM (that never ends well) and Gazzaniga in goal (who was up there as one of the worst GK's i've seen at the club) - I remember putting that game down as an equivalent to a friendly match.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-hector/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/157490/plus/0?saison=2021&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=



He can also do a job in DM/CM too.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Marcus on February 03, 2023, 03:40:21 PM
Immense at Wembley, when not many expected us to beat Brentford. Also immense in the play off semi against Cardiff, with one goal line save that went beyond the bounds... as has been said, his form went off a cliff in the Premier league, stood in for three matches last year when one of our centre halves got suspended, and did very well, if not back to his best, was getting there, then hardly featured again, all a bit of a mystery, good player, if you can get him back performing, way too good for League One.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: mrmicawbers on February 03, 2023, 03:43:09 PM
As I remember he became father and that's when his form disappeared. Maybe a coincidence?
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: SW London Addick on February 03, 2023, 04:02:00 PM
Wow, many thanks for all your replies, and appreciate the nice comments about Charlton and The Valley. Apologies to the fan who encountered some aggy fans, and have to say that we very rarely have incidents like that.
So let's hope Michael H settles in well, because it sounds like he could be what we're looking for, once he regains fitness and a bit of self belief.
I think we have a good bunch of players, and we're all hoping that the current 'takeover' turns out to better than our last three or four. We've not had the best of luck.
Best of luck for the rest of your season in the Prem and your quest for European football. Looking forward to playing you again some day. Fingers crossed.

PS I wasn't at the 7-6 match and sadly never saw Sam Bartram play. A bit before my time.
Title: Re: Michael Hector
Post by: Blawarmy on February 03, 2023, 04:28:10 PM
Quote from: SW London Addick on February 03, 2023, 11:01:02 AM
Hello,
Charlton fan here. We signed your Michael Hector on Tuesday, and he looks on paper to be a potentially very good acquisition for us, having played at a higher level than the one we are currently find ourselves condemned to :-(
He clearly didn't feature much for you in the Premier League, and I was wondering why that is? I guess if he had done he wouldn't have become available to us though I guess. Is just nor reliable enough at the top level?

Also, having only played four matches in the last couple of years would anyone know if he's been able to play reserve matches, or behind closed door games to maintain fitness? I suspect you only have U21 & U23 teams, so how do older squad players at Fulham stay match ready?

Any info gratefully received, cheers!

PS Not being a fan of Crystal Palace and Chelsea I'm always happy to see you doing well!
He's a top 6 championship CB for sure mate.

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