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I wonder what 'Jacksonville' fans make of all this negativity??

Started by Fulham Tup North, September 02, 2013, 10:18:02 PM

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Forever Fulham

Economic socialism.  And NFL teams with losing regular season records also get easier playing schedules in the succeeding season.  There IS a correlation between a team with a winning tradition and sales of royalty-bearing trademarked merchandise...  And I believe, but am not certain, that teams who get into the playoffs after the regular season get a bigger slice of the TV/Radio rights revenue pie. 

In any event, there's been no evidence that any Jags fan has turned his/her back on Fulham after the first few games of the new season.  They said their hellos at the outset and are probably just quietly checking in now and then on the standings of their London cousin. 

Buffalo76


jmh

Quote from: JIMMY D on September 02, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
Yes have to agree. It's been hard to watch the team this year. Still love them always will. But we are in trouble BIG TiME and only a fool could not see that!
We really aren't.  It's been all of three matches.  Yes, three points isn't six or nine, but it's three points from three fixtures from which we got one point last year.  People need to relax.


justinfromga

Right now Jacksonville fans are torn between wanting Blaine Gabbard to show that he's not a total bust and hoping Blain Gabbard is a total bust and in two years they somehow get the top pick in the draft so they can land Jameis Winston to save them all of the NFL from all previous evil transgressions known to human kind.

sunburywhite

Remember you are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.
I will be as good as I can be and when I cross the finishing line I will see what it got me

Jimpav

Quote from: jmh on September 03, 2013, 07:52:29 PM
Quote from: JIMMY D on September 02, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
Yes have to agree. It's been hard to watch the team this year. Still love them always will. But we are in trouble BIG TiME and only a fool could not see that!
We really aren't.  It's been all of three matches.  Yes, three points isn't six or nine, but it's three points from three fixtures from which we got one point last year.  People need to relax.

Three matches this season, an awful pre-season and countless dire performances since last October.

Last year we played both Arsenal with 10 men for the majority of the game, they did not have a champions league qualifier either side of the fixture and they also had a lot less players injured. It's a pointless comparison.


jmh

Quote from: Jimpav on September 03, 2013, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: jmh on September 03, 2013, 07:52:29 PM
Quote from: JIMMY D on September 02, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
Yes have to agree. It's been hard to watch the team this year. Still love them always will. But we are in trouble BIG TiME and only a fool could not see that!
We really aren't.  It's been all of three matches.  Yes, three points isn't six or nine, but it's three points from three fixtures from which we got one point last year.  People need to relax.

Three matches this season, an awful pre-season and countless dire performances since last October.

Last year we played both Arsenal with 10 men for the majority of the game, they did not have a champions league qualifier either side of the fixture and they also had a lot less players injured. It's a pointless comparison.
It's a perfectly valid comparison.  Arsenal are a better team than us even if we have 11 men on the field and more often than not we'll lose to them.  That's just the way it is.

nevzter

Quote from: sunburywhite on September 03, 2013, 08:06:40 PM
Can Jameis Winston play right back?
:54:

The dude could most likely play RB, LB, CD, keeper, winger and target forward (though not all at once), but he probably has never kicked a spherical ball before - so that could be a small problem.  Maybe Fulham can put in a bid next year and see what happens?
"To get back my youth I would do anything in the world, except take exercise, get up early, or be respectable."

bmasar

Quote from: Holders on September 03, 2013, 02:16:59 PM
Quote from: RPhillips on September 03, 2013, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on September 03, 2013, 02:48:10 AM
They probably felt exactly the same last season when they finished bottom....

Jaguar fans may have been disappointed with their bottom-place finish last year, but the level of anxiety and worry on their part was (and is) de minimis, as there is no death sentence -- i.e., relegation -- in the NFL for finishig last; in fact, the last place team gets first pick in the next year's player draft!


So what's the incentive for finishing other than last?

Not sure if this is a serious question, but I'll answer it anyways. Better team means more tickets sold, more merchandise purchased, and teams get a much larger portion of playoff ticket sales than regular season ticket sales, so achieving playoff games are big business. And, crazy fact, some people want to win.


Jimpav

Quote from: jmh on September 03, 2013, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: Jimpav on September 03, 2013, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: jmh on September 03, 2013, 07:52:29 PM
Quote from: JIMMY D on September 02, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
Yes have to agree. It's been hard to watch the team this year. Still love them always will. But we are in trouble BIG TiME and only a fool could not see that!
We really aren't.  It's been all of three matches.  Yes, three points isn't six or nine, but it's three points from three fixtures from which we got one point last year.  People need to relax.

Three matches this season, an awful pre-season and countless dire performances since last October.

Last year we played both Arsenal with 10 men for the majority of the game, they did not have a champions league qualifier either side of the fixture and they also had a lot less players injured. It's a pointless comparison.
It's a perfectly valid comparison.  Arsenal are a better team than us even if we have 11 men on the field and more often than not we'll lose to them.  That's just the way it is.

We've won and drawn more than we have lost in the last 11 matches against Arsenal.

Trivia aside, the point remains that we are not playing as a team and continue to play negative football with no discernable tactics.

jmh

Quote from: Jimpav on September 03, 2013, 09:15:35 PM
Quote from: jmh on September 03, 2013, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: Jimpav on September 03, 2013, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: jmh on September 03, 2013, 07:52:29 PM
Quote from: JIMMY D on September 02, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
Yes have to agree. It's been hard to watch the team this year. Still love them always will. But we are in trouble BIG TiME and only a fool could not see that!
We really aren't.  It's been all of three matches.  Yes, three points isn't six or nine, but it's three points from three fixtures from which we got one point last year.  People need to relax.

Three matches this season, an awful pre-season and countless dire performances since last October.

Last year we played both Arsenal with 10 men for the majority of the game, they did not have a champions league qualifier either side of the fixture and they also had a lot less players injured. It's a pointless comparison.
It's a perfectly valid comparison.  Arsenal are a better team than us even if we have 11 men on the field and more often than not we'll lose to them.  That's just the way it is.

We've won and drawn more than we have lost in the last 11 matches against Arsenal.

Trivia aside, the point remains that we are not playing as a team and continue to play negative football with no discernable tactics.
It's true that we've done well against Arsenal in recent years, but the fact remains that nobody involved with Fulham should be going into any given season looking at the fixture list, trying to figure out how to get to any reasonable target number of points (whether your target is the oft-discussed 40 points or 50 points that might reasonably get us into the top half) and have either fixture against Arsenal as one from which you're expecting to get some of those points. 

The tactics haven't been great, I agree, but it's not like it's December 29th and we're 11 points from safety.  It's been three matches and we have a reasonable number of points from those three matches.  We haven't had any home matches that we should expect to be winning.  There's no reason to panic.

Jimpav

That's fair enough, a lot can happen in the next 9 months and hopefully that will include a chance for us to account for ourselves against Arsenal or one of the other big 4.

Like you say it's probably a bit too early to be panicking just yet. Hopefully Jol will be able to muffle the alarm bells with a convincing win over West Brom.



Berserker

Look Jag fans are going to feel the same as us as they are human beings. They may live in the USA but they  basically have the same emotions
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