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Just a few take aways from today

Started by smallfulhamman, July 22, 2020, 11:46:20 PM

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smallfulhamman

Well, ever so close but once again, undefeated.

My main take aways from the game -

Attacking crosses
All too often we aimlessly cross it in, contrary to popular opinion I don't think Mitro is as potent in the air as we seem to think he is. And more often than not he's not able to peel away from his man. I can't help but think we use a put it in the danger area and hope approach and apart from Kebano, we don't try to pin back the full backs and get around them often enough for the pull back which is far more dangerous (mitro's miss for example).

Defending crosses
Hector has looked a bit off the ball since the break after looking like a world beater earlier in the season, we need to address his positioning for crosses, caught out by Nuhiu recently and now Moore.

Kebano Kebano Kebano
Currently our best winger, disregard the prices. Set piece specialist and skill on the ball, Floyd Ayité and him held a soft spot for me and he's proving why, huge three games ahead for him to stake his claim on the starting line up.

Mitro
Just generally slow and poor today, often left me screaming at him to get in the box and pull away from players.

Cairney
I got so excited when we finally took him off, we had a break at pace, he stopped, pivoted and passed it back, upset me how poor his form has been unsure I would start him for the play offs, would genuinely consider bringing him on later to slow down a game if ahead if not for the random 30 yard belter.

Christie
Guaranteed starter for me. Loved him from day one, offers so much more going forward and usually defensively sound and adds height.

Having watched the Liverpool vs Chelsea game too, the speed at which they break would terrify our defence. And we gave away possession so often with a sloppy final pass. I'm excited for Cardiff and intrigued to see how Brentford mentally deal with bottling autos twice in the last few weeks.

Onto the next, sort a few errors and I think we can start dreaming.

COYW




VamosFFC

During the match, I remember a few times where Cairney would gather the ball in our half with plenty of space in front of him for him to only jog into the space. I want to see our players moving with pace with the ball at the their feet if they have space in front of them. So many times we passed the ball back instead of looking for a pass forward.

Bassey the warrior

We should drop Cairney, he's off form. Was in good form at the start of the season but looks off the pace.


SuffolkWhite

Been banging on about tempo all season, thankfully Reed brings tempo and which boads well for the Play Offs. Question is who plays in the midfield with him? For me it would be Cairny and Johansen because if it is the 433. If it's 4231 then Reed and Johansen again with Cairny and two selected wingers if playing out wide or if narrow then Onamah and one other.

I think Reed will speed things up and that would benefit Cairney.
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General

Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 23, 2020, 08:20:44 AM
We should drop Cairney, he's off form. Was in good form at the start of the season but looks off the pace.

Agreed. I'd start with Reed, Johansen and either Onomah, Arter or Mcdonald.

Cairney's name on the teamsheet tends to mean underwhelming and slow paced performance incoming at the moment. He's dropped off the pace and is a risk as a result to our chances if he plays.

LittleErn

Quote from: smallfulhamman on July 22, 2020, 11:46:20 PM
Well, ever so close but once again, undefeated.

My main take aways from the game -

Attacking crosses
All too often we aimlessly cross it in, contrary to popular opinion I don't think Mitro is as potent in the air as we seem to think he is. And more often than not he's not able to peel away from his man. I can't help but think we use a put it in the danger area and hope approach and apart from Kebano, we don't try to pin back the full backs and get around them often enough for the pull back which is far more dangerous (mitro's miss for example).

Defending crosses
Hector has looked a bit off the ball since the break after looking like a world beater earlier in the season, we need to address his positioning for crosses, caught out by Nuhiu recently and now Moore.

Kebano Kebano Kebano
Currently our best winger, disregard the prices. Set piece specialist and skill on the ball, Floyd Ayité and him held a soft spot for me and he's proving why, huge three games ahead for him to stake his claim on the starting line up.

Mitro
Just generally slow and poor today, often left me screaming at him to get in the box and pull away from players.

Cairney
I got so excited when we finally took him off, we had a break at pace, he stopped, pivoted and passed it back, upset me how poor his form has been unsure I would start him for the play offs, would genuinely consider bringing him on later to slow down a game if ahead if not for the random 30 yard belter.

Christie
Guaranteed starter for me. Loved him from day one, offers so much more going forward and usually defensively sound and adds height.

Having watched the Liverpool vs Chelsea game too, the speed at which they break would terrify our defence. And we gave away possession so often with a sloppy final pass. I'm excited for Cardiff and intrigued to see how Brentford mentally deal with bottling autos twice in the last few weeks.

Onto the next, sort a few errors and I think we can start dreaming.

COYW





Can't fault this. A good summary without the rose tinted spectacles.


filham

I say again, the worry is we are finding it hard to score and Carfiff are going to offer strong resistance, Wigan were good yesterday but played an open game which should have suited us, no massed defence to be broken down which is our usual excuse for lack of goals.
Agree Knock is not chipping in with goals, so many shots off target.

Mullers OG

Why haven't we seen more of Kebano this season?  What a transformation he has made to the side.  Does anyone know when his contract expires?  If soon then sign him up!

With Kebano, Mitro, Cavaleiro and Knockhaert FFC has some real attacking strength.  For next year if Stansfield and the new Scottish player come through we should be all right in either division.  A proper back up to Mitro would help.

rebel

Quote from: smallfulhamman on July 22, 2020, 11:46:20 PM
Well, ever so close but once again, undefeated.

My main take aways from the game -

Attacking crosses
All too often we aimlessly cross it in, contrary to popular opinion I don't think Mitro is as potent in the air as we seem to think he is. And more often than not he's not able to peel away from his man. I can't help but think we use a put it in the danger area and hope approach and apart from Kebano, we don't try to pin back the full backs and get around them often enough for the pull back which is far more dangerous (mitro's miss for example).

Defending crosses
Hector has looked a bit off the ball since the break after looking like a world beater earlier in the season, we need to address his positioning for crosses, caught out by Nuhiu recently and now Moore.

Kebano Kebano Kebano
Currently our best winger, disregard the prices. Set piece specialist and skill on the ball, Floyd Ayité and him held a soft spot for me and he's proving why, huge three games ahead for him to stake his claim on the starting line up.

Mitro
Just generally slow and poor today, often left me screaming at him to get in the box and pull away from players.

Cairney
I got so excited when we finally took him off, we had a break at pace, he stopped, pivoted and passed it back, upset me how poor his form has been unsure I would start him for the play offs, would genuinely consider bringing him on later to slow down a game if ahead if not for the random 30 yard belter.

Christie
Guaranteed starter for me. Loved him from day one, offers so much more going forward and usually defensively sound and adds height.

Having watched the Liverpool vs Chelsea game too, the speed at which they break would terrify our defence. And we gave away possession so often with a sloppy final pass. I'm excited for Cardiff and intrigued to see how Brentford mentally deal with bottling autos twice in the last few weeks.

Onto the next, sort a few errors and I think we can start dreaming.

COYW





Yes, classy post.


We Are Premier League

agree, good post.

I'm a bit worried about Hector...been amazing but completely caught ball-watching again yesterday, leaving Odoi in a very tough position at the goal.

PaulJ123

Cairney has to be dropped - should be a 3 of Reed, StefJo, Onomah!

Agreed about Christie, offers so much more than Odoi.

We don't use Mitro as we should and he has looked poor. Would it be the worst thing to cash in for £30-40m and use AK as our starting striker next season (if we're in the champ), I don't think it would.

abfg

Mostly agree...surprised Cairney's getting as much criticism as he is though. For me there's a couple of issues, the main one being he should be playing much deeper. A Reed, Cairney, StefJo midfield, with him and StefJo both playing as number 8s is our way to get the best from him. That way he receives the ball facing goal more often, and can pick a pass. As for form, the last match before injury was Birmingham I think, and he was the standout player by a mile, the only one who looked like making anything happen that day.

I'm also surprised at Onomah being picked by so many. I thought he was very poor last night, passing was either behind the man or more often to the opposition. He looked decent when Mitro was out, as he provided the strength, but with Mitro back, he doesn't offer much IMO.


rebel

Quote from: PaulJ123 on July 23, 2020, 11:38:02 AM
Cairney has to be dropped - should be a 3 of Reed, StefJo, Onomah!

Agreed about Christie, offers so much more than Odoi.

We don't use Mitro as we should and he has looked poor. Would it be the worst thing to cash in for £30-40m and use AK as our starting striker next season (if we're in the champ), I don't think it would.

Agree Mitro doesn't look at effective now as he has done previously.