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Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958

Started by Fulham1959, June 27, 2021, 03:29:10 PM

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Fulham1959

This is a BBC recording with Kenneth Wolstenhome, not the usual Pathe News cinema newsreel.  Lasts about 6 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JYU1DJT6-k

It was Haynes' only hat trick for the full England team, I believe.

Steeeeeeeeeed


bog

Brilliant posting. Others of my age (old) will recall Kenneth Wolstenholme saying on Sportsnight that Johnny Haynes should be dropped for the game. The following week he appeared with sack cloth and ashes over him as a punishment for spouting such nonsense.  :005: Johnny reigned supreme that game...again.  :Haynes The Maestro:

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cmg

Quote from: bog on June 27, 2021, 04:26:55 PM
Brilliant posting. Others of my age (old) will recall Kenneth Wolstenholme saying on Sportsnight that Johnny Haynes should be dropped for the game. The following week he appeared with sack cloth and ashes over him as a punishment for spouting such nonsense.     

...Hence Wolstenhome's somewhat subdued reactions to Haynes' goals. (To be fair he never did get over excited, unlike the hystrionics of today's mouthpieces...And yet he came out with what is probably the most famous of all English football comments.)

It always seemed slightly strange to me that JH was a rather more ready scorer for England than he was for Fulham. After he  (26 goals) and Leggat beat up the 2nd Div (Championship) the year we went up he rarely went into double figures. Almost as if, as a craftsman, he rather disdained the more prosaic task of actually providing the finishing touches.

Lyle from Hangeland

Very nice. The 1950s, when England sort of realized the rest of the world played better football.

grandad

Wlostenhome hated Haynes & Fulham with a passion. He thought George Eastham was a better player. I could never warm to him as a commentator.
Where there's a will there's a wife


Fernhurst

Lovely to see "our best ever player" dominating the International stage.

Even though he scored a hatrick, never seen him on film that really does him justice.
The atmosphere's fresh and the debate lively.

mrmicawbers

Thanks for posting,how things have changed when our centre forward gets kicked in the face,he just raises his hand and says don't worry about it.

Dodgin

One of the everlasting joys of our club Johnny Haynes.


bog

In a book I read about the Maestro for that 1958 game a member of the Soviet entourage was a very young Gorbachev. Many years later when he came to see Thatcher one of the first things he asked was 'How is that Johnny Haynes doing now?' Of course she had no idea of whom he was talking about.  He had been so taken by Johnny's play that long gone day and never forgotten him. Quite impressive I think.  :Haynes The Maestro:

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Dr Quinzel

I'll watch this later, thanks for sharing.

Your profile picture caught my eye. I collect some older football cards, trade cards etc. That's from A&BC, probably 1959/60 ish based on design. Absolutely brilliant design, and a great choice for your profile pic.

Mr White



RaySmith

Wonderful footage, thanks.

I recognised all the England players, besides the Maestro, and they mostly played for teams now outside the  top division, like Blackburn, Preston, Bolton, Wolves, WBA and Fulham, of course.