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Chalobah

Started by JimOG, November 28, 2021, 10:50:55 AM

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Jim©

Didn't gazza play 18 games? Chalobah was best player on pitch v brum, almost wholly injured since. I'll wait a little until I state the signings are flops or otherwise.

Sting of the North

Quote from: filham on November 29, 2021, 03:52:53 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on November 28, 2021, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: filham on November 28, 2021, 03:17:06 PM
Five summer signings:- Qiuna and Chalobah hardly been seen, Gazzaniga clearly second string to Rodak, Muniz not ready yet, Wilson commanding a regular first team spot.
One success out of five signings, we need to do better as that success rate doesn't keep you in the Premier League.

As has been stated (but seemingly ignored) in other threads; we needed back up options/competition in goal and up front, which we got in Gazza and Muniz. Gazza has started a lot of games, and Muniz has already 3 goals to his name despite very limited game time. Wilson has been a success, and Chalobah has hardly been seen only because of injury, which happened after his arrival. Only Quina a miss so far, and that is only a loan. Seem like a pretty good window to me unless you do your best to put a negative spin on things.
The hard fact is that last season's players plus Wilson are the ones winning the promotion points for us.

I like how you are presenting your opinion on what counts as a contribution to our success as 'hard facts'. But even if we pretend that you are correct, and we further pretend that what we have seen so far is sufficient evidence of all players future quality, what is the problem here? If we didn't need more than Wilson to complement our existing squad in order to dominate most games, why is it a problem that we just added some squad fillers? Is it bad business to acquire a player to be back up?

filham

Quote from: Sting of the North on November 29, 2021, 07:44:46 PM
Quote from: filham on November 29, 2021, 03:52:53 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on November 28, 2021, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: filham on November 28, 2021, 03:17:06 PM
Five summer signings:- Qiuna and Chalobah hardly been seen, Gazzaniga clearly second string to Rodak, Muniz not ready yet, Wilson commanding a regular first team spot.
One success out of five signings, we need to do better as that success rate doesn't keep you in the Premier League.

As has been stated (but seemingly ignored) in other threads; we needed back up options/competition in goal and up front, which we got in Gazza and Muniz. Gazza has started a lot of games, and Muniz has already 3 goals to his name despite very limited game time. Wilson has been a success, and Chalobah has hardly been seen only because of injury, which happened after his arrival. Only Quina a miss so far, and that is only a loan. Seem like a pretty good window to me unless you do your best to put a negative spin on things.
The hard fact is that last season's players plus Wilson are the ones winning the promotion points for us.

I like how you are presenting your opinion on what counts as a contribution to our success as 'hard facts'. But even if we pretend that you are correct, and we further pretend that what we have seen so far is sufficient evidence of all players future quality, what is the problem here? If we didn't need more than Wilson to complement our existing squad in order to dominate most games, why is it a problem that we just added some squad fillers? Is it bad business to acquire a player to be back up?
I am actually pleased that players like Mitro and Kebano have recovered from last season and are now commanding first teams places.
Just a little concerned that we havn't signed players capable of holding Championship places and an wondering if we are promoted how we will sign Premier quality players.


JimOG

Quote from: filham on November 29, 2021, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on November 29, 2021, 07:44:46 PM
Quote from: filham on November 29, 2021, 03:52:53 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on November 28, 2021, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: filham on November 28, 2021, 03:17:06 PM
Five summer signings:- Qiuna and Chalobah hardly been seen, Gazzaniga clearly second string to Rodak, Muniz not ready yet, Wilson commanding a regular first team spot.
One success out of five signings, we need to do better as that success rate doesn't keep you in the Premier League.

As has been stated (but seemingly ignored) in other threads; we needed back up options/competition in goal and up front, which we got in Gazza and Muniz. Gazza has started a lot of games, and Muniz has already 3 goals to his name despite very limited game time. Wilson has been a success, and Chalobah has hardly been seen only because of injury, which happened after his arrival. Only Quina a miss so far, and that is only a loan. Seem like a pretty good window to me unless you do your best to put a negative spin on things.
The hard fact is that last season's players plus Wilson are the ones winning the promotion points for us.

I like how you are presenting your opinion on what counts as a contribution to our success as 'hard facts'. But even if we pretend that you are correct, and we further pretend that what we have seen so far is sufficient evidence of all players future quality, what is the problem here? If we didn't need more than Wilson to complement our existing squad in order to dominate most games, why is it a problem that we just added some squad fillers? Is it bad business to acquire a player to be back up?
I am actually pleased that players like Mitro and Kebano have recovered from last season and are now commanding first teams places.
Just a little concerned that we havn't signed players capable of holding Championship places and an wondering if we are promoted how we will sign Premier quality players.

I've been wondering that. How many of our current starting X1 would start next season IF we are to stay up? I'd rather see us go for Nathan Phillips who impressed me playing for Liverpool. He reminds me of Dunk. I think I'd rather start there than Fungilini etc