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How did we lose out to Wolves…

Started by ChesterTheTabby, August 30, 2024, 03:39:48 PM

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ChesterTheTabby

Someone once asked me, "Why Fulham?".
My response, "Well, lad, you just haven't seen the light yet"

karldutton97

#1
Better off moving on. Everyone has been obsessed with that player this entire transfer window.
Fulham will have other options, If he didn't want to join then it's his issue.

Fulham 1879

Timing. No other clubs came in after we pulled out. We may regret it or he may end up like Seri playing for Hull.


Deeping_white

Because when we were interested they wanted €35m and ended up selling him for about €10m less because they played a game of chicken to extract a bigger fee and lost because we got tired of waiting and went elsewhere

Count Flapula

Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 30, 2024, 03:39:48 PMAndre to wolves? What a joke....

We only "lost him to Wolves" if we were bidding and he chose them over us. We weren't.

We chose someone else, we didn't want him.

Let's move on.

peachcobbler

Fluminense held off cause they believed Fulham had no other options and would bump up the offer, we took our business elsewhere and now Fluminense are getting less than we were prepared to offer if rumours are correct.

For all the hype I have yet to meet someone who has watched more than 60 seconds of Andre on Youtube.

Incredibly smart move by Tony/Marco to not give in. I applaud them sticking to their guns.

This is why emotions don't win when managing a team.


First State

Apparently, Wolves were his only option. If we were hell-bent on having him, he'd be here. Time to move on.

demeant0r

Quote from: First State on August 30, 2024, 04:23:37 PMApparently, Wolves were his only option. If we were hell-bent on having him, he'd be here. Time to move on.

This is the correct answer. If we actually wanted him, he'd be here like Andersen and Berge. It didn't take long from the initial bid to them signing. If we actually wanted Andre, we'd have made an improved offer.

Fulham 442

Quote from: Deeping_white on August 30, 2024, 03:56:50 PMBecause when we were interested they wanted €35m and ended up selling him for about €10m less because they played a game of chicken to extract a bigger fee and lost because we got tired of waiting and went elsewhere
Exactly this..


Willham

Quote from: Al-Fayed on August 30, 2024, 03:48:49 PMTiming. No other clubs came in after we pulled out. We may regret it or he may end up like Seri playing for Hull.

Doesn't actually play for hull anymore, he's in Saudi.

H4usuallysitting

Who knows.... we'll never know...it could've been his management talking him up to get the best bid, and we could've made a passing interest...so far can't fault our transfer window

Luka

Payment terms.
Wolves are willing to put a lot up front, we were not.
Let's hope he proves to be a dud!


ChesterTheTabby

Quote from: Deeping_white on August 30, 2024, 03:56:50 PMBecause when we were interested they wanted €35m and ended up selling him for about €10m less because they played a game of chicken to extract a bigger fee and lost because we got tired of waiting and went elsewhere

Good enough reason for me!
Someone once asked me, "Why Fulham?".
My response, "Well, lad, you just haven't seen the light yet"

Hatch007

Marco didn't want Andre in the end.

He often references a player's "profile" and Berge is clearly a completely different profile to Andre.

It would be so &@#>ing lovely if this could actually sink in with all those who keep commenting/moaning about the club somehow failing to get his signing over the line.

WE WALKED AWAY! We did not lose out to Wolves!!!

The Rock

Price.

Call it amortization over time, the player, the other club involved, the interest in the project for the player, and the price the Khan's were willing to pay and so on.

McTominay to Napoli for £26m, same thing, copy and paste the above reply.


Matt10

Quote from: peachcobbler on August 30, 2024, 04:22:55 PMFluminense held off cause they believed Fulham had no other options and would bump up the offer, we took our business elsewhere and now Fluminense are getting less than we were prepared to offer if rumours are correct.

For all the hype I have yet to meet someone who has watched more than 60 seconds of Andre on Youtube.

Incredibly smart move by Tony/Marco to not give in. I applaud them sticking to their guns.

This is why emotions don't win when managing a team.

I've watched a lot of his matches and have posted quite a bit about what type of player he is. In the scouting sense, he doesn't play the 6 the way our 6's play. Meaning he doesn't play with any pressure behind him when receiving the ball from the CBs. In fact, he simply doesn't receive the ball from them. Fluminese's goal-kicks are between the two CBs and the keeper, then they send it either long or long and wide.

Andre stays much deeper in the attack and distributes wide and very simple. He rarely has pressure in front of him as well. He is tenacious defensively, but doesn't sprint with any sense of urgency into his own box. Everyone was so upset with Lukic at Chelsea - well picture Andre doing exactly that every time. Can block shots quite well.

What I believe a lot of hype from him comes from is before this season he was playing under Brazil coaching mastermind, Fernando Diniz. Diniz employed a relational system that means a lot of tiki-taka, tight clusters and even tighter passing avenues in close proximity. These moments happen all through the pitch and even near their own box (as they showed vs Man City). Any player that is capable of not only playing in that style, but orchestrating it the way Andre did, deserves the hype in my opinion. I think that is what Wolves are hoping they have signed. I believe the challenge for Andre will come through the physicality and speed of PL, but the significant full-pitch pressure most of all will be something he hasn't experienced all season for Fluminense.

I think he would have been a good signing, but he doesn't have PL experience, he doesn't have any type of high press experience from this season, so he will be rusty at even seeing that in training, let alone a match.

I will gladly pick Berge every single day of the week and twice on Sunday. Highly experienced in the PL as a 6 in the fashion that we play our 6's, and also brings significant size for our set pieces. Buzzing to see him play more.

Twig

Not too bothered, I never understood the Andre obsession on here. We signed Berger, time to move on.

Woolly Mammoth

We cannot keep looking back.
The last bloke who did that invented the rear view mirror.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

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