Fair tribunals

[Thailand Mick]

I was thinking of ways to make tribunals fair for the clubs who are having their young players taken from them. This is what I came up with, what ideas do others think would be fair.
My idea is based on which division the buying club is in.
Premier league 1 million every year + 50% sell on profit.
Championship 500,000 + 50% sell on profit.
League one 250,000 + 50% sell on profit.
League Two 125,000 + 50% sell on profit.
If the buying club get promoted or relegated the yearly amount would change to what ever division they are in that year. So for example if a Premier league club has the player for five seasons then sells the player for 25 million the selling club would receive 15 million. If the player plays for that premier league club for 15 years then retires the selling club would receive 15 million which would be a bargain for the Premier league club for a player good enough to play that long for them and a very good fee for the selling club. The amounts payed could also be adjusted in line with inflation.

[Andy S]

It cannot work as when a players contract ends he is free to go wherever he wants and can demand whatever wages he can get. That is industrial Law. That is the same for everyone an football is no different

[Sting of the North]

It cannot work as when a players contract ends he is free to go wherever he wants and can demand whatever wages he can get. That is industrial Law. That is the same for everyone an football is no different

If you were correct we wouldn't have tribunal fees. But we do.Thus, you are not.

[Nero]

I was thinking of ways to make tribunals fair for the clubs who are having their young players taken from them. This is what I came up with, what ideas do others think would be fair.
My idea is based on which division the buying club is in.
Premier league 1 million every year + 50% sell on profit.
Championship 500,000 + 50% sell on profit.
League one 250,000 + 50% sell on profit.
League Two 125,000 + 50% sell on profit.
If the buying club get promoted or relegated the yearly amount would change to what ever division they are in that year. So for example if a Premier league club has the player for five seasons then sells the player for 25 million the selling club would receive 15 million. If the player plays for that premier league club for 15 years then retires the selling club would receive 15 million which would be a bargain for the Premier league club for a player good enough to play that long for them and a very good fee for the selling club. The amounts payed could also be adjusted in line with inflation.

You get the likes of Chelsea telling Kingstonians to get player x and we buy him off you next year for Y to save money

[Thailand Mick]

I was thinking of ways to make tribunals fair for the clubs who are having their young players taken from them. This is what I came up with, what ideas do others think would be fair.
My idea is based on which division the buying club is in.
Premier league 1 million every year + 50% sell on profit.
Championship 500,000 + 50% sell on profit.
League one 250,000 + 50% sell on profit.
League Two 125,000 + 50% sell on profit.
If the buying club get promoted or relegated the yearly amount would change to what ever division they are in that year. So for example if a Premier league club has the player for five seasons then sells the player for 25 million the selling club would receive 15 million. If the player plays for that premier league club for 15 years then retires the selling club would receive 15 million which would be a bargain for the Premier league club for a player good enough to play that long for them and a very good fee for the selling club. The amounts payed could also be adjusted in line with inflation.

You get the likes of Chelsea telling Kingstonians to get player x and we buy him off you next year for Y to save money

But they could do that now couldn't they to get a lower price at tribunal

[H4usuallysitting]

I don't understand.....all i know is league 2 club's should get more dough than prem clubs

[Thailand Mick]

It cannot work as when a players contract ends he is free to go wherever he wants and can demand whatever wages he can get. That is industrial Law. That is the same for everyone an football is no different

Under a certain age a player can only sign a 2 year contract if they choose to leave at the end of that contract as with Harvey Elliot then the club are due a fee set by tribunal. If the player move outside the English league as in the case of Dembele only a 250,000 pound compensation is payed.

[The Rational Fan]

It cannot work as when a players contract ends he is free to go wherever he wants and can demand whatever wages he can get. That is industrial Law. That is the same for everyone an football is no different

If you were correct we wouldn't have tribunal fees. But we do. Thus, you are not.

Actually, I believe Andy S is correct about industrial law, and Sting is correct in that laws aren't 100% compatible with tribunal fees. Hence, the endless legal debates about whether tribunal fees are even legal, but somehow they are still legal. In truth, they probably aren't really 100% legal, but if the courts ban tribunal fees they will kill academies and youth development. What a Dilemma, in truth if I was a kid with football ability then I would prefer to save the academies and than to save my freedom to play for anyone.

[Andy S]

They are only legal because they have happened. In Law if you can prove that in 2020 a court in smith v Wilson something happened then that sets a president for the future. The Law is sometimes very complicated

[Sting of the North]

Tribunal fees aren't necessarily incompatible with the law as long as it isn't seen to practically impact the possibility for players to move. If the contract is up, a player is free to leave which is in line with industrial law, the freedom of movement of people and EU case law (Bosman case, for example).

I can imagine that if fees were too high, it could be seen as practically hindering the movement of the players since they may lose out on contracts because the clubs didn't want to gamble.

With that said, even having longer contracts that you are not allowed to break with a reasonable notice (in most jobs it is 2-3 months) could be seen as hindering the freedom of movement in the EU, which admittedly may not be a problem in the UK anymore.