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Marco Silva angry with board…. Could he be off?

Started by FFC007, July 31, 2025, 12:59:05 PM

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jayffc

#21
Quote from: Angus Telford on July 31, 2025, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 02:04:05 PMIndeed I think it must come down to some deeper predisposition with differing personality types at this point. Some appear hell bent on catasrophising every single situation when it comes to Fulham, perenially miserable in the outlook, rushing to the worst possible outcome.

I accept some of the complaints (including mine) are a bit repetitive, but they're generally based in objective fact rather than the posters' "predisposition". We're a clear outlier in terms of the slowness of our business, the geographic narrowness of our scouting, the age of both our existing squad and new targets, and against most peers, our low net spend, and the high wages we pay. It was agreed by most on here, including the more positive posters like yourself, that at least three or four of those things should/would change this summer, yet it doesn't currently look like any will. Pretty hard to interpret/spin that positively, whatever your personality type.

It's alot about disposition because its the same people all the time for years on this board whatever the topic is and regardless of what Fulham are doing at the time really. As with what this post was actually about its the jumping on any negative rumour and catasrophising it to the enth degree where it's not needed. (Which wasn't about you in this post fwiw - I think even you would concede Silva isn't "raging" in this interview just expressing what he and plenty clubs are saying around us every year)

I'll wait till end of the window, as ever, to judge the squad and how our business has  gone and I've spent a lot of time explaining why I feel the results don't suggest timings of signings convo is worth the constant daily justification for the level and relentlessness of the complaining that occurs. I also have conceded what I think would be ideal scenario, but I'm optimistic about the end outcome given fact based results of recent starts.

It all gets unbelievably repetitive and dour and I do think actually disposition plays a huge part in WHICH "objective facts" one chooses to focus on to frame and justify their negative or positive outlook . That's the point.

And think it plays a big part in if someone would rather sit back and see how things play out by end of window, even if they have concerns about some of the rumours or outcomes along the way ...or chooses to indulge regularly in moaning all day about it and justifying why they're right to moan. One can observe things and not wallow, revel or jump to it instinctually all day like some seem to.

My main concern has been and always is, quality of squad come end of window,first and foremost . Because in recent years we've stayed competitive whilst also hitting no ffp problems and making record sales.so I'm less concerned and less hung up on age and timings specifically, providing they offer us quality come end of window. I'd like to steadily lower the age of the squad if possible but most importantly I want to enjoy watching Fulham and seeing them stay competitive, which they have been doing imo.

So far I'd be very happy with a combination of the current biggest rumours

Losing vini and willian

Gaining:

Lacomte
Nelson
Sterling/Chukwueze
KDH/Zinchenko
Romulo/Akodare/another

+ Integrating a highly talented 18 year old in King

That plus our current squad and Id be absolutely feeling confident and happy with the business and would look at it as a positive window whenever those additions arrive. But that's just how someone with my disposition looks at the "objective facts" and which ones I use as metrics to justify my outlook

FFC1987

Historically I've sat on the other side to Jay etc on this one. Always felt we put pressure on ourselves and the club/squad with late arrivals, unsettled pre seasons with sometimes imbalanced squads and I still stick by that criticism despite objectively seeing better starts than anticipated. Footballs a fine game with fine margins and a few different decisions and maybe those bright starts weren't but it is what it is.

Saying that, I'm not on that side this time round. The squads settled, Marco is settled, no major question marks around squad unless we include Muniz potentially being off based on loose reports(maybe I'm underplaying but nothing feels concrete). I really don't see this window like the others for those reasons but maybe we'll start badly and I'll be slagging it all off in 4 weeks time  :slap:

I sympathise with the worriers among you but it is what it is. Just enjoy the journey (and the silliness season thread for 200 more pages to come!) 


jayffc

Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2025, 05:44:04 PMHistorically I've sat on the other side to Jay etc on this one. Always felt we put pressure on ourselves and the club/squad with late arrivals, unsettled pre seasons with sometimes imbalanced squads and I still stick by that criticism despite objectively seeing better starts than anticipated. Footballs a fine game with fine margins and a few different decisions and maybe those bright starts weren't but it is what it is.

Saying that, I'm not on that side this time round. The squads settled, Marco is settled, no major question marks around squad unless we include Muniz potentially being off based on loose reports(maybe I'm underplaying but nothing feels concrete). I really don't see this window like the others for those reasons but maybe we'll start badly and I'll be slagging it all off in 4 weeks time  :slap:

I sympathise with the worriers among you but it is what it is. Just enjoy the journey (and the silliness season thread for 200 more pages to come!) 

I will add , it's absolutely possible this year we start worse than other years, I think we got a tough fixture list to kick off with actually, but that wouldn't suddenly buck the general trend of recent history here and means we'd have been vastly better off settling for other available targets than the ones we end up with, earlier in the window, and potentially for more money.

We have a cohesive settled squad which id say is around one of my top 5% of Fulham squads in my long time following Fulham. So am trusting the process and excited to see who comes in the door next.

General

Quote from: Whitestone on July 31, 2025, 03:19:20 PMSo if he's not unhappy presumably that makes him, well, happy ? Based on solely on comments that can be attributed directly to Silva I would suggest that he is disappointed that we haven't signed the reinforcements we all know that are required. Personally I'd say that he probably isn't happy.

Shock horror, there is a middle ground - people aren't always either happy or sad..

Coastwalker



Coastwalker

On a serious note,I think that this will be his last season with us,just something I have a feeling about,the continuous frustrating of the transfer windows,and I also believe that he thinks he has taken us as far as he can.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong,but I can see it happening.

Jules

Quote from: Coastwalker on July 31, 2025, 06:53:43 PMOn a serious note,I think that this will be his last season with us,just something I have a feeling about,the continuous frustrating of the transfer windows,and I also believe that he thinks he has taken us as far as he can.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong,but I can see it happening.
Quote from: Coastwalker on July 31, 2025, 06:53:43 PMOn a serious note,I think that this will be his last season with us,just something I have a feeling about,the continuous frustrating of the transfer windows,and I also believe that he thinks he has taken us as far as he can.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong,but I can see it happening.
I agree and think this is his last season also.

Angus Telford

#28
Quote from: Coastwalker on July 31, 2025, 06:53:43 PMOn a serious note,I think that this will be his last season with us,just something I have a feeling about,the continuous frustrating of the transfer windows,and I also believe that he thinks he has taken us as far as he can.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong,but I can see it happening.

Inclined to agree, not connected to the article in any way which I agree is misleading, but 5 yrs is a decent stint for any manager, and i strongly sense another 12-13th placed finished from which both parties ought to conclude the other has taken them as far as they can.


jayffc

#29
Quote from: Angus Telford on July 31, 2025, 07:00:35 PM
Quote from: Coastwalker on July 31, 2025, 06:53:43 PMOn a serious note,I think that this will be his last season with us,just something I have a feeling about,the continuous frustrating of the transfer windows,and I also believe that he thinks he has taken us as far as he can.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong,but I can see it happening.

Inclined to agree, not connected to the article in any way which I agree is misleading, but 5 yrs is a decent stint for any manager, and i strongly sense another 12-13th placed finished from which both parties ought to conclude they've taken the other has taken them as far as they can.

I'm more optimistic (shock 😅) in terms of potential for a top 10 finish if the additions are the level linked.

BUT I am inclined to agree from Silvas recent Portuguese interview comments, that maybe he's more open than ever on a return to Portugal with a big club there regardless, should they come knocking next year. Or indeed a job at a major club in England IF we fail to reach Europe or come very close.

Although IF he'd get an offer from a big club here if we failed to do that would be a big question anyway.

I get the impression that if Sporting, Benfica or Porto came knocking he'd strongly consider it though at this point.

Would love for Silva to commit to a longer contract but all good things will eventually come to an end of course. Big shoes to fill if we do move on from him.


Lighthouse

Not sure that Silva hasn't been with the club a few seasons too long anyway. He tends to move about and has stayed with us longer than he has at other clubs. He probably saw the project as a personal thing and may well feel the limit has been reached.

The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

General

Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: Angus Telford on July 31, 2025, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 02:04:05 PMIndeed I think it must come down to some deeper predisposition with differing personality types at this point. Some appear hell bent on catasrophising every single situation when it comes to Fulham, perenially miserable in the outlook, rushing to the worst possible outcome.

I accept some of the complaints (including mine) are a bit repetitive, but they're generally based in objective fact rather than the posters' "predisposition". We're a clear outlier in terms of the slowness of our business, the geographic narrowness of our scouting, the age of both our existing squad and new targets, and against most peers, our low net spend, and the high wages we pay. It was agreed by most on here, including the more positive posters like yourself, that at least three or four of those things should/would change this summer, yet it doesn't currently look like any will. Pretty hard to interpret/spin that positively, whatever your personality type.

It's alot about disposition because its the same people all the time for years on this board whatever the topic is and regardless of what Fulham are doing at the time really. As with what this post was actually about its the jumping on any negative rumour and catasrophising it to the enth degree where it's not needed. (Which wasn't about you in this post fwiw - I think even you would concede Silva isn't "raging" in this interview just expressing what he and plenty clubs are saying around us every year)

I'll wait till end of the window, as ever, to judge the squad and how our business has  gone and I've spent a lot of time explaining why I feel the results don't suggest timings of signings convo is worth the constant daily justification for the level and relentlessness of the complaining that occurs. I also have conceded what I think would be ideal scenario, but I'm optimistic about the end outcome given fact based results of recent starts.

It all gets unbelievably repetitive and dour and I do think actually disposition plays a huge part in WHICH "objective facts" one chooses to focus on to frame and justify their negative or positive outlook . That's the point.

And think it plays a big part in if someone would rather sit back and see how things play out by end of window, even if they have concerns about some of the rumours or outcomes along the way ...or chooses to indulge regularly in moaning all day about it and justifying why they're right to moan. One can observe things and not wallow, revel or jump to it instinctually all day like some seem to.

My main concern has been and always is, quality of squad come end of window,first and foremost . Because in recent years we've stayed competitive whilst also hitting no ffp problems and making record sales.so I'm less concerned and less hung up on age and timings specifically, providing they offer us quality come end of window. I'd like to steadily lower the age of the squad if possible but most importantly I want to enjoy watching Fulham and seeing them stay competitive, which they have been doing imo.

So far I'd be very happy with a combination of the current biggest rumours

Losing vini and willian

Gaining:

Lacomte
Nelson
Sterling/Chukwueze
KDH/Zinchenko
Romulo/Akodare/another

+ Integrating a highly talented 18 year old in King

That plus our current squad and Id be absolutely feeling confident and happy with the business and would look at it as a positive window whenever those additions arrive. But that's just how someone with my disposition looks at the "objective facts" and which ones I use as metrics to justify my outlook

Not excited by the striker options, but the rest look decent.


jayffc

#32
Quote from: General on July 31, 2025, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: Angus Telford on July 31, 2025, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 02:04:05 PMIndeed I think it must come down to some deeper predisposition with differing personality types at this point. Some appear hell bent on catasrophising every single situation when it comes to Fulham, perenially miserable in the outlook, rushing to the worst possible outcome.

I accept some of the complaints (including mine) are a bit repetitive, but they're generally based in objective fact rather than the posters' "predisposition". We're a clear outlier in terms of the slowness of our business, the geographic narrowness of our scouting, the age of both our existing squad and new targets, and against most peers, our low net spend, and the high wages we pay. It was agreed by most on here, including the more positive posters like yourself, that at least three or four of those things should/would change this summer, yet it doesn't currently look like any will. Pretty hard to interpret/spin that positively, whatever your personality type.

It's alot about disposition because its the same people all the time for years on this board whatever the topic is and regardless of what Fulham are doing at the time really. As with what this post was actually about its the jumping on any negative rumour and catasrophising it to the enth degree where it's not needed. (Which wasn't about you in this post fwiw - I think even you would concede Silva isn't "raging" in this interview just expressing what he and plenty clubs are saying around us every year)

I'll wait till end of the window, as ever, to judge the squad and how our business has  gone and I've spent a lot of time explaining why I feel the results don't suggest timings of signings convo is worth the constant daily justification for the level and relentlessness of the complaining that occurs. I also have conceded what I think would be ideal scenario, but I'm optimistic about the end outcome given fact based results of recent starts.

It all gets unbelievably repetitive and dour and I do think actually disposition plays a huge part in WHICH "objective facts" one chooses to focus on to frame and justify their negative or positive outlook . That's the point.

And think it plays a big part in if someone would rather sit back and see how things play out by end of window, even if they have concerns about some of the rumours or outcomes along the way ...or chooses to indulge regularly in moaning all day about it and justifying why they're right to moan. One can observe things and not wallow, revel or jump to it instinctually all day like some seem to.

My main concern has been and always is, quality of squad come end of window,first and foremost . Because in recent years we've stayed competitive whilst also hitting no ffp problems and making record sales.so I'm less concerned and less hung up on age and timings specifically, providing they offer us quality come end of window. I'd like to steadily lower the age of the squad if possible but most importantly I want to enjoy watching Fulham and seeing them stay competitive, which they have been doing imo.

So far I'd be very happy with a combination of the current biggest rumours

Losing vini and willian

Gaining:

Lacomte
Nelson
Sterling/Chukwueze
KDH/Zinchenko
Romulo/Akodare/another

+ Integrating a highly talented 18 year old in King

That plus our current squad and Id be absolutely feeling confident and happy with the business and would look at it as a positive window whenever those additions arrive. But that's just how someone with my disposition looks at the "objective facts" and which ones I use as metrics to justify my outlook

Not excited by the striker options, but the rest look decent.

Really? I like the look of Romulo to be fair, got something about him, though RB leipzig who do have a history with scouting good attacking options look to be in the driving seat there.

Akodare looks a physical specimenz if a bit raw, not my first choice of the 2 but either probably an upgrade on vinicius and a project to work with

Anyone out there realistic you prefer the look of? Wolves eyeing up Ivanovich at Milwall the young serb?

General

Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: General on July 31, 2025, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: Angus Telford on July 31, 2025, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 02:04:05 PMIndeed I think it must come down to some deeper predisposition with differing personality types at this point. Some appear hell bent on catasrophising every single situation when it comes to Fulham, perenially miserable in the outlook, rushing to the worst possible outcome.

I accept some of the complaints (including mine) are a bit repetitive, but they're generally based in objective fact rather than the posters' "predisposition". We're a clear outlier in terms of the slowness of our business, the geographic narrowness of our scouting, the age of both our existing squad and new targets, and against most peers, our low net spend, and the high wages we pay. It was agreed by most on here, including the more positive posters like yourself, that at least three or four of those things should/would change this summer, yet it doesn't currently look like any will. Pretty hard to interpret/spin that positively, whatever your personality type.

It's alot about disposition because its the same people all the time for years on this board whatever the topic is and regardless of what Fulham are doing at the time really. As with what this post was actually about its the jumping on any negative rumour and catasrophising it to the enth degree where it's not needed. (Which wasn't about you in this post fwiw - I think even you would concede Silva isn't "raging" in this interview just expressing what he and plenty clubs are saying around us every year)

I'll wait till end of the window, as ever, to judge the squad and how our business has  gone and I've spent a lot of time explaining why I feel the results don't suggest timings of signings convo is worth the constant daily justification for the level and relentlessness of the complaining that occurs. I also have conceded what I think would be ideal scenario, but I'm optimistic about the end outcome given fact based results of recent starts.

It all gets unbelievably repetitive and dour and I do think actually disposition plays a huge part in WHICH "objective facts" one chooses to focus on to frame and justify their negative or positive outlook . That's the point.

And think it plays a big part in if someone would rather sit back and see how things play out by end of window, even if they have concerns about some of the rumours or outcomes along the way ...or chooses to indulge regularly in moaning all day about it and justifying why they're right to moan. One can observe things and not wallow, revel or jump to it instinctually all day like some seem to.

My main concern has been and always is, quality of squad come end of window,first and foremost . Because in recent years we've stayed competitive whilst also hitting no ffp problems and making record sales.so I'm less concerned and less hung up on age and timings specifically, providing they offer us quality come end of window. I'd like to steadily lower the age of the squad if possible but most importantly I want to enjoy watching Fulham and seeing them stay competitive, which they have been doing imo.

So far I'd be very happy with a combination of the current biggest rumours

Losing vini and willian

Gaining:

Lacomte
Nelson
Sterling/Chukwueze
KDH/Zinchenko
Romulo/Akodare/another

+ Integrating a highly talented 18 year old in King

That plus our current squad and Id be absolutely feeling confident and happy with the business and would look at it as a positive window whenever those additions arrive. But that's just how someone with my disposition looks at the "objective facts" and which ones I use as metrics to justify my outlook

Not excited by the striker options, but the rest look decent.

Really? I like the look of Romulo to be fair, got something about him, though RB leipzig who do have a history with scouting good attacking options look to be in the driving seat there.

Akodare looks a physical specimenz if a bit raw, not my first choice of the 2 but either probably an upgrade on vinicius and a project to work with

Anyone out there realistic you prefer the look of? Wolves eyeing up Ivanovich at Milwall the young serb?

Nah, not for me.

General

Quote from: JimOG on July 31, 2025, 03:22:18 PM
Quote from: General on July 31, 2025, 01:05:08 PM
Quote from: FFC007 on July 31, 2025, 12:59:05 PMhttps://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/2089235/fulham-premier-league-transfer-marco-silva

Clearly a very unhappy man... a has every right to be so.

He's not unhappy - the exact interview this is taken from is from the club - he talks in a pretty calm and measured way. Other interviews he's had have expressed his acknowledgement of the club working hard behind the scenes to get things done.

Stop making a mountain out of a molehill when it comes to Marco and his place at the club.

It's how journalists grab your attention - put a construction on it and those who want to hear it that way....etc

Oh, I know. That was more aimed at the OP who should know better than to post dross. Perhaps they're just a Wum we should all keep an eye out on.