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Álvaro Arbeloa

Started by LC, October 10, 2026, 04:55:47 PM

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Plodder

#40
With timing of the next international break, I reckon the club will give him until after the Newcastle Utd game, which will be ten games. To stay, he needs at least two wins fron the next four games. If he doesn't achieve that, Howe or Frank are the obvious choices, if they are willing to come then, and that will give one of them (or whoever) a fortnight without a match to settle in, and still enough games left in the season to turn things around.

But either way, that is the latest a decision needs to be made. Either keep him for the entire season and promise him a go in the Championship if that is what it comes to, or sack him no later than the next international break. The worst of both worlds would be to vacillate and then sack him 15 or more games into this season like we did with Jokanovic, which gives a new manager very little chance to keep us up.

SimonDaviesEnjoyer

Quote from: C Block on October 10, 2026, 05:23:14 PMThey will give him until the next international break, but ! In the meantime im pretty certain that they will put the feelers out to the currently available managers to see if they can gauge any interest,
They definitely won't want to sack him and then publicly get turned down by a string of managers.

Lol don't bank on it. I like the Khans all in, but don't rule anything out.

v

Quote from: Wandsworthboy on October 10, 2026, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: southwest6 on October 10, 2026, 05:00:24 PMi think you have to give him hull and coventry. But yeah, i'm losing faith sadly
No. Get rid now. Whilst there's still time to save our season.
Bring Roy back.

It worked for Crystal Palace after Frank de Boer's damp squib start to the season, it could work for us.


Twig

Quote from: Twig on October 10, 2026, 05:12:24 PM
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on October 10, 2026, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 10, 2026, 05:10:23 PMProblem we have is an imbalanced squad thanks to AA. No new manager can do anything about the squad he inherits until the transfer window (and the Christmas window is notoriously thin). No matter who comes in they arevstuck with a lot of small, young, inexperienced players in a relegation battle. That is not a good recipe!

The squad is fine and more than talented enough to stay up.

Really?

I will run through why I worry about the squad. Where is the central striker able to play up front on his own who can head a ball, hold up play, and take his chances? Where is the next Tom Cairney who can dictate play, command the midfield and chip in with the odd wonder strike? Where is the big, commanding central defender who marshals our back four and clears our lines? Where is that essential baseline for Prem success, a solid spine?

Yes we have a host of lightweight, young players, some or all of whom may turn out to be technically gifted (it's too soon to judge several of them). But we have a lot of them and that does not bode well in a relegation dogfight!

Luka

From within the club he is regarded as arrogant and rude.
If that's the case then he isn't going to change.
One more shambles like today and he will loose the dressing room.
Then he's finished.

Whatever happens, I do not want Frank anywhere near this club.

FFC007

Oh what I would have given for parkerball in the last ten today..


RAY Rock

Awful performance truly awful no passion no tempo sitting off . Sack him he is so far out of his depth it is painful 🤬

cookieg

Quote from: LC on October 10, 2026, 04:55:47 PMHe has to go after today. We have some very important games coming up and we need a response.

Thomas Frank and Eddie Howe are available. We need to change it now before it's too late. I said this before the international break.

And if we'd have won you wouldn't be saying anything.

Coastwalker

Quote from: Twig on October 10, 2026, 05:12:24 PM
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on October 10, 2026, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 10, 2026, 05:10:23 PMProblem we have is an imbalanced squad thanks to AA. No new manager can do anything about the squad he inherits until the transfer window (and the Christmas window is notoriously thin). No matter who comes in they arevstuck with a lot of small, young, inexperienced players in a relegation battle. That is not a good recipe!

The squad is fine and more than talented enough to stay up.

Really?

What was it he said about Garcia.
This boy has it to be world class.😅
Looked like a league1 player at times today.


Sgt Fulham

Quote from: Luka on October 10, 2026, 05:34:20 PMFrom within the club he is regarded as arrogant and rude.
If that's the case then he isn't going to change.
One more shambles like today and he will loose the dressing room.
Then he's finished.

Whatever happens, I do not want Frank anywhere near this club.

Interesting insight if true. How do you know how he's perceived inside the club if you dont mind me asking?

FFC007

Anything less than three points against arguably the weakest team to come up then he will be toast.

We are currently bottom of the table.

Moussa Dembele the 3rd

#51
Quote from: Twig on October 10, 2026, 05:32:23 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 10, 2026, 05:12:24 PM
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on October 10, 2026, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 10, 2026, 05:10:23 PMProblem we have is an imbalanced squad thanks to AA. No new manager can do anything about the squad he inherits until the transfer window (and the Christmas window is notoriously thin). No matter who comes in they arevstuck with a lot of small, young, inexperienced players in a relegation battle. That is not a good recipe!

The squad is fine and more than talented enough to stay up.

Really?

I will run through why I worry about the squad. Where is the central striker able to play up front on his own who can head a ball, hold up play, and take his chances? Where is the next Tom Cairney who can dictate play, command the midfield and chip in with the odd wonder strike? Where is the big, commanding central defender who marshals our back four and clears our lines? Where is that essential baseline for Prem success, a solid spine?

Yes we have a host of lightweight, young players, some or all of whom may turn out to be technically gifted (it's too soon to judge several of them). But we have a lot of them and that does not bode well in a relegation dogfight!

I hear you. I guess I just disagree and think that with a decent manager we'd be fine. I think Muniz is underrated and could do a job for the rest of the season, with the right tactics and players playing in their proper positions e.g. Kevin on the left not the right. Gonzalo off the bench when chasing a game. I think Berge and Charles are actually a great pairing in midfield and Bassey and Affengruber are more than capable enough to form a solid backline with Tete and Robinson.

But yeah the Angel's and Palacios's of the world are probably not suited for life in the Premier League.  Anyone with even a vague knowledge of the league could have told you that.


Twig

Quote from: cookieg on October 10, 2026, 05:36:08 PM
Quote from: LC on October 10, 2026, 04:55:47 PMHe has to go after today. We have some very important games coming up and we need a response.

Thomas Frank and Eddie Howe are available. We need to change it now before it's too late. I said this before the international break.

And if we'd have won you wouldn't be saying anything.

Sorry but what is your point? I genuinely fail to understand what you are trying to say.

FFC007

Fulham goalscorer Ryan Sessegnon, also spoke after the match: "It's impossible to lose a game like that. We need to take a hard look at ourselves. It's a bit of mentality thing at the moment. We need to try and demand more from ourselves. We need to set higher standards for ourselves because it's going to be a hard season."

Arbeloa has clearly wrecked the dressing room... this is a worrying quote.

Coastwalker

Dressing room door kicked in.

2/7 ESR
5/2 Bassey

Any price the rest.


cookieg

Quote from: Wandsworthboy on October 10, 2026, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: southwest6 on October 10, 2026, 05:00:24 PMi think you have to give him hull and coventry. But yeah, i'm losing faith sadly
No. Get rid now. Whilst there's still time to save our season.
Bring Roy back.

So a new manager comes in and he doesn't win his first 3 games. Will you want him gone as well?

LC

Quote from: cookieg on October 10, 2026, 05:36:08 PM
Quote from: LC on October 10, 2026, 04:55:47 PMHe has to go after today. We have some very important games coming up and we need a response.

Thomas Frank and Eddie Howe are available. We need to change it now before it's too late. I said this before the international break.

And if we'd have won you wouldn't be saying anything.

Lol, if we were 6 games unbeaten I wouldn't be saying anything negative. What is your point?

Hugh Janus

If Eddie Howe takes it I would change horses now. Bit he won't.

I would give AA at least the Hull game. For 70 mins today we were in control. We were good at Liverpool and Utd at home. He learned a lot from the Palace game about getting too high. He now has to sort out his in game management.

I really want the geezer to succeed. I'm still convinced there's a good manager in there. Unfortunately he is learning on the job in the Prem. That's a tough gig.  But he can do it


LC

Quote from: cookieg on October 10, 2026, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: Wandsworthboy on October 10, 2026, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: southwest6 on October 10, 2026, 05:00:24 PMi think you have to give him hull and coventry. But yeah, i'm losing faith sadly
No. Get rid now. Whilst there's still time to save our season.
Bring Roy back.

So a new manager comes in and he doesn't win his first 3 games. Will you want him gone as well?


Bring in an experienced manager, someone like Thomas Frank or Eddie Howe and you'll see a response almost immediately. We have a few very important games coming up and there is little signs of improvement. We have seen some very strange substitutions recently and again today. Charles should have stayed on even if he was tiring following the international break, and going with Garcia and Munoz up front made no sense.   

Twig

Quote from: cookieg on October 10, 2026, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: Wandsworthboy on October 10, 2026, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: southwest6 on October 10, 2026, 05:00:24 PMi think you have to give him hull and coventry. But yeah, i'm losing faith sadly
No. Get rid now. Whilst there's still time to save our season.
Bring Roy back.

So a new manager comes in and he doesn't win his first 3 games. Will you want him gone as well?


He hasn't won his first six games! (Not sure where three comes into it as nobody was calling for his head after three).