Just for fun - what do you think the final table will look like? Post & discuss!

[ImperialWhite]

1.   Manchester City
2.   Manchester United
3.   Chelsea
4.   Liverpool
5.   Tottenham Hotspur
6.   Arsenal
7.   Everton
8.   Aston Villa
9.   Fulham
10.   Stoke City
11.   Sunderland
12.   West Bromich Albion
13.   Bolton Wanderers
14.   Wolverhampton Wanderers
15.   Newcastle United
16.   Queens Park Rangers
17.   Blackburn Rovers
18.   Swansea City
19.   Norwich City
20.   Wigan Athletic

Think it may be City's year at last - I look at United's otherwise fantastic squad and see a gaping hole in centre midfield - I think that perhaps United may struggle away again, but worse, against the smaller sides who will be able to pack their central midfield and close United down, and lose too many points. City have a decent squad, they just need to ensure that Tevez stays, or get Balotelli and Dzeco working well together. Liverpool impressed last season - think they are now better than Spurs or Arsenal (who will really struggle this season due to a lack of confidence and a crowd on their backs). Liverpool also have the advantage of not having a European distraction.

I think we will do well - unfortunately I don't think we will go all that far in Europa, so it won't be much of a distraction. We've got a good enough squad to be comfortably top half, but Everton and Villa are probably stronger (although Villa may struggle under McLeish).

Not convinced by my relegated sides - but figure that Wigan will suffer without N'Zogbia (and were poor anyway last season), Norwich will concede far too many goals and Swansea may suffer the curse of newly promoted sides that try to play good football. However, Newcastle will struggle after losing so many good players, Blackburn suffer from lack of investment and a mediocre manager and I suspect that QPR will struggle for goals if teams figure out how to deal with Taarabt.

[Frankie-Peter Taylor]

1. Manchester United
2. Manchester City
3. Chelsea
4. Liverpool
5. Arsenal
6. Tottenham Hotspur
7. Everton
8. Sunderland
9. Aston Villa
10. West Bromwich Albion
11. Bolton Wanderers
12. Stoke City
13. Fulham
14. Newcastle United
15. Wolverhampton Wanderers
16. Swansea City
17. Blackburn Rovers
18. Queens Park Rangers
19. Wigan Athletic
20. Norwich

[Sheepskin Junior]

Liverpool
Man. U
Man. C
Chelsea
Tottenham
Arsenal
Fulham
Everton
West Brom
Bolton
Stoke
Newcastle
Sunderland
Wigan
Aston Villa
QPR
Norwich
Blackburn
Wolves
Swansea

[Tktd]

How have Aston Villa merited a place so high up in the first two tables?

They've got an average manager and have just sold their top two wings in Young and Downing and haven't exactly bought anyone in now have they - therefore they're bound to do worse than last season... their pre-season has been pretty shocking too.

[HatterDon]

1.    Manchester United
2.    Chelsea
3.    Arsenal
4.    Liverpool
5.    Manchester City
6.    Tottenham Hotspur
7.    Everton
8.    Sunderland
9.    Aston Villa
10.  Newcastle United
11.  Bolton Wanderers
12.   Fulham
13.   West Brom
14.   Stoke City
15.   Wolverhampton Wanderers
16.   Wigan Athletic
17.   Swansea City
18.   Blackburn Rovers
19.   Queens Park Rangers
20.   Norwich City

United in a walk. Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool in a blanket finish.
The Northeast is in flower.
Fulham not ambitious enough to improve on last season.
Wigan survive as do Swansea.
Blackburn gone because there's only so much you can do with smoke, mirrors, and chicken.
QPR not good enough, not ambitious enough.
Norwich? It's hard to play in three different leagues and three consecutive seasons and survive int the top flight. I REALLY want them to finish 17th, but I don't see it happening.
What I want is Stoke to go down along with Wolves, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

Don't think we'll do much in the cups this season either. Call me grumpy and negative, but I haven't seen anything to convince me that this season's Fulham [and manager] will be as good as last season's Fulham [and manager].

[RidgeRider]

  1. Manchester United
 2. Manchester City
 3. Chelsea
 4. Arsenal
 5. Liverpool
 6. Tottenham
 7. Everton
 8. Fulham
 9. Sunderland
10. West Brom
11. Villa
12. Bolton
13. Stoke
14. Newcastle
15. Wolverhampton
16. Wigan
17. Swansea
18. Blackburn
19. QPR
20. Norwich

[clintclintdeuce]

United
Arsenal
Liverpool
Spurs
Chelsea
Fulham
City
Everton
Bolton
West Brom
Stoke
Wigan
Newcastle
Sunderland
Wolves
Blackburn
Swansea
Villa
Norwich
QPR

[Lighthouse]

1.   Manchester United
2.   Manchester City
3.   Chelsea
4.   Spuds
5.   Liverpool
6.   Everton
7.   Arsenal
8.   Aston Villa
9.   Bolton
10.   Stoke City
11.   Fulham
12.   Wigan
13.   West Brom
14.    Blackburn
15.   Sunderland
16.   Newcastle
17.   QPR
18.   Wolves
19.   Swansea
20.   Norwich City

[MikeR]

1.  Manchester United
2.  Manchester City
3.  Chelsea
4.  Arsenal
5.  Liverpool
6.  Tottenham
7.  Everton
8.  Bolton
9.  Fulham
10. Sunderland
11. Stoke City
12. West Brom
13. Aston Villa
14. Newcastle
15. Wolves
16. Wigan
17. Swansea
18. QPR
19. Blackburn
20. Norwich City

'Pool are leaking too many goals to be serious title contenders.

[ImperialWhite]

How have Aston Villa merited a place so high up in the first two tables?

They've got an average manager and have just sold their top two wings in Young and Downing and haven't exactly bought anyone in now have they - therefore they're bound to do worse than last season... their pre-season has been pretty shocking too.

Shay Given and Charles N'Zogbia are quality signings, I think. They'll have a full season with Bent up front - perhaps 8th is a little high, but I can't see them falling below 10-12th.

[SmithyFFC]

why is everyone assuming liverpool will get top 4? they'll do well to make top 6 again!

[ImperialWhite]

why is everyone assuming liverpool will get top 4? they'll do well to make top 6 again!

If you pretend the season started when Dalglish was appointed, Liverpool would have been 3rd last season.

http://www.madridreds.com/2011/04/la-tabla-desde-que-llego-dalglish-table.html

[SmithyFFC]

why is everyone assuming liverpool will get top 4? they'll do well to make top 6 again!

If you pretend the season started when Dalglish was appointed, Liverpool would have been 3rd last season.

http://www.madridreds.com/2011/04/la-tabla-desde-que-llego-dalglish-table.html

fair point, but where would fulham have finished if the season started after boxing day?

[ImperialWhite]

Aggregate table:


Manchester United
Manchester City
Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal
Everton
Tottenham Hotspur
Fulham
Stoke City
Sunderland
Bolton Wanderers
West Bromich Albion 
Aston Villa
Newcastle United 
Wigan Athletic 
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Swansea City
Blackburn Rovers
Queens Park Rangers
Norwich City

[jarv]

1. Arsenal  (will buy 3 new players)
2. man city
3. man u
4. chelsea  (ageing team and new manager, down a bit)
5. fulham  (out of europe and carling cup, concentrate on the league) :005:
6. spuds
7 liverpool  (still can't defend)
8. stoke (sadly).
9. Everton
10. wba (the new fulham!)
11 villa, (new man doesn't impress)
12. Bolton
13. Wolves
14.Wigan  (good management)
15. QPR  (they have some money apparently)
16Sunderland  (too many untried players, will struggle)
17. Norwich (wishful thinking)
18  Blackburn (because they are rubbish)
19 Newcastle  (continued meltdown of management)
20 Swansea.  (no idea, know nothing about them except my welsh mate supports them).

[Lighthouse]

I think Arsenal will just luck out this season unless they come up with a few good signings. Wenger to go by the seasons end. Well it could happen.

[ron]

"Give me that mike!"    "Where are you?" "Let's be 'aving you!"..........


Surely there must be something cooking in Norwich to stop all that again....isn't there?

[mangoputney]

Dont need to cut and paste, I think Hatterdon is spot on, even in that I too would love Wolves and Stoke to drop... just will not happen

Would like to think we'd be a cut above Stoke WBA (the new fulham) Wolves but haven't seen anything to suggest were more potent, more of a goal threat, actually capable of turning a number of big uns over

Away form gonna be our weak link again, anywhere 12th - 14th

[ElissonSnygg]

1. Chelsea
2. Manchester City
3. Manchester United
4. Arsenal
5. Sunderland
6. Tottenham
7. Liverpool
8. Aston Villa
9. Newcastle
10. Everton
11. Fulham
12. West Bromwich
13. QPR
14. Norwich City
15. Stoke City
16. Bolton
17. Blackburn
18. Wigan
19. Swansea
20. Wolverhampton