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NFR - recycling

Started by BalDrick, November 23, 2011, 12:31:17 PM

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finnster01

Quote from: sipwell on November 23, 2011, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: BalDrick on November 23, 2011, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: sipwell on November 23, 2011, 01:46:49 PM
Additionally, in Belgium you have to pay for plastic bags in the supermarket or any other store. The result is a massive drop in the number of plastic bags (75 %) littering up our communities. Most shops don't even have plastic bags any more but have either a fashionable re-usable bag (which people continue to use hence it is free marketing) or a cardboard bag which can be recycled (or was already recycled). I never go to the supermarket without my re-usable (handy) bag and a lot of people do the same.

That was supposed to come in a few years ago, supermarkets weren't supposed to promote their plastic bags, but they all still do - suspect that's more a recessionary factor than anything else, where customers simply can't afford to buy a bag for life every time they go shopping (particularly if, like me, you leave it at home by accident every time you go to the shop!).

...If I go to the market for instance I will always take my Delhaize bag with me (because it is big and handy)...

Maybe there is a market for the Shefki Kuqi shopping tote? Recyclable? Yes. Big? Yes. Handy? Perhaps not.
If you wake up in the morning and nothing hurts, you are most likely dead

BalDrick

Quote from: sipwell on November 23, 2011, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: BalDrick on November 23, 2011, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: sipwell on November 23, 2011, 01:46:49 PM
Additionally, in Belgium you have to pay for plastic bags in the supermarket or any other store. The result is a massive drop in the number of plastic bags (75 %) littering up our communities. Most shops don't even have plastic bags any more but have either a fashionable re-usable bag (which people continue to use hence it is free marketing) or a cardboard bag which can be recycled (or was already recycled). I never go to the supermarket without my re-usable (handy) bag and a lot of people do the same.

That was supposed to come in a few years ago, supermarkets weren't supposed to promote their plastic bags, but they all still do - suspect that's more a recessionary factor than anything else, where customers simply can't afford to buy a bag for life every time they go shopping (particularly if, like me, you leave it at home by accident every time you go to the shop!).

No, your logic is wrong. The expected effect is that you will LEARN to take your bag with you to the supermarket. Moreover, the non-reusable bags aren't that expensive (10 eurocents for a small one and 50 eurocents for a big one). The strategy is to make people used to re-usable bags. Initially you got the bags for free and you got loyalty points each time you brought it to the originating shop. And as I said: great marketing for the companies involved. If I go to the market for instance I will always take my Delhaize bag with me (because it is big and handy), so I am basically a walking commercial for them. You use the bag for almost everything (my dirty football boots or hiking shoes for instance always travel in a Delhaize bag). You grow so accustomed to that useful bag that you never forget it any more.

I understand, and in truth I only forget them once every 4 shops, but a few years ago I'm sure a law was passed that Tesco wasn't supposed to offer its plastic bags nor have them on show, but still have them available if needed, which lasted all of a week where I live. Now it's the same it ever was, huge piles of them on every checkout. I'd say over half of supermarket shoppers I see use reusable bags. We've got stacks here, including a few full of kindling for when the temperature drops.
Cigarettes and women be the death of me, better that than this old town

The Equalizer

I can't imagine ever walking around with a carrier bag in preparation for shopping. I go shopping on a whim, and rarely do a 'weekly' shop, so I generally pick up a new bag every visit.
"We won't look back on this season with regret, but with pride. Because we won what many teams fail to win in a lifetime – an unprecedented degree of respect and support that saw British football fans unite and cheer on Fulham with heart." Mohammed Al Fayed, May 2010

Twitter: @equalizerffc


Fulhamkev

I can't believe my first post on here is about recycling!

I only recycle paper and plastics because they only collect my main rubbish once a fortnight!! The bin is overflowing by then as it is, so I have to recycle the paper and plastics. I put all glass in with the main rubbish now because I don't think it will make the slightest bit of difference to the enviroment (and I can't be arsed to drive it to the recycling place).

In fact if my main rubbish was collected more frequently I wouldn't bother doing any of it. Total waste of time and money in my opinion


Mitch

Used to recycle everything, but then they stopped collecting the purple small bins from flats and only take away the massive blue bins which can't be kept on site. Genius.

RidgeRider

Quote from: Fulhamkev on November 23, 2011, 02:34:11 PM
I can't believe my first post on here is about recycling!

I only recycle paper and plastics because they only collect my main rubbish once a fortnight!! The bin is overflowing by then as it is, so I have to recycle the paper and plastics. I put all glass in with the main rubbish now because I don't think it will make the slightest bit of difference to the enviroment (and I can't be arsed to drive it to the recycling place).

In fact if my main rubbish was collected more frequently I wouldn't bother doing any of it. Total waste of time and money in my opinion



Welcome Fulhamkev! if you make one more post, your status of Michael Jackson will go away.


hesedmedia

I'm on the fence re: recycling. I'll definitely recycle aluminum, and maybe the others if the apartment into which I've recently moved is providing for it. However, I'm really dubious about any benefits of recycling paper. What does everyone think of / has anyone seen this (strong language):


Recycling Is bullpoo

CincyFulham1

I don't generate alot of trash, but I recycle as much as possible.  We have a recycling center that takes almost everything and what they don't recycle you can pay them and they will dispose of it for you.  They don't pickup, so I have to drive to town, but it's worth it for about a $1.00 a trip.

Holders

I find that so much is recyclable (roadside collection) that the landfill bin is only about half full (of mostly plastic) when it's collected fortnightly.

This is despite the fact that the County Council closed the local recycling centre in April so some stuff that we used to recycle now has to be disposed of in other ways. We used to be able to take plastic there but now it has to go in the bin and we now burn waste wood instead of recycling it. I even had to feed an old storage radiator out through the bin a couple of months ago. Metal would have been recycled and the bricks would have gone for hardcore.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria


FatFreddysCat

Quote from: The Equalizer on November 23, 2011, 01:26:52 PM
I'm often amazed by certain boroughs which provide 4 different coloured boxes for recycling (which you have to find room to put, even if you're in a tiny 1 bed studio). Wandsworth Borough Council provides orange sacks, into which you place everything that can be recycled.

They then send these sacks off to Merton, where they are dropped off outside the houses of the less well-off for sorting into the relevant coloured boxes by the local residentia.
No they dont, like Hammersmith and Fulham, the orange bags all go to lotts rd Scumsea, where by bizarre coincedence the weighbridge bloke and a few workers are the Millwall fans me and my mates had a little run in with. I know this because i got moved on to recycling, and my weekly takings got hammered, as i couldn't do private jobs, and got finished a lot later. Paul Barry (Chelscum ) your bum licking may have got you promotion, but you know your always be licking your bosses arse  :014:

TheDaddy

Quote from: FatFreddysCat on November 24, 2011, 12:15:25 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on November 23, 2011, 01:26:52 PM
I'm often amazed by certain boroughs which provide 4 different coloured boxes for recycling (which you have to find room to put, even if you're in a tiny 1 bed studio). Wandsworth Borough Council provides orange sacks, into which you place everything that can be recycled.

They then send these sacks off to Merton, where they are dropped off outside the houses of the less well-off for sorting into the relevant coloured boxes by the local residentia.
No they dont, like Hammersmith and Fulham, the orange bags all go to lotts rd Scumsea, where by bizarre coincedence the weighbridge bloke and a few workers are the Millwall fans me and my mates had a little run in with. I know this because i got moved on to recycling, and my weekly takings got hammered, as i couldn't do private jobs, and got finished a lot later. Paul Barry (Chelscum ) your bum licking may have got you promotion, but you know your always be licking your bosses arse  :014:
Fred i recycle all my rubbish in a black bin bag and leave at the bottom of the flats every wednesday morning by thursday its gone...
As for the a hole licker what goes around mate comes around hopefully he falls in the cart....
"Well blow me if it wasnt the badger who did it "

FatFreddysCat

Quote from: TheDaddy on November 24, 2011, 12:20:44 AM
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on November 24, 2011, 12:15:25 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on November 23, 2011, 01:26:52 PM
I'm often amazed by certain boroughs which provide 4 different coloured boxes for recycling (which you have to find room to put, even if you're in a tiny 1 bed studio). Wandsworth Borough Council provides orange sacks, into which you place everything that can be recycled.

They then send these sacks off to Merton, where they are dropped off outside the houses of the less well-off for sorting into the relevant coloured boxes by the local residentia.
No they dont, like Hammersmith and Fulham, the orange bags all go to lotts rd Scumsea, where by bizarre coincedence the weighbridge bloke and a few workers are the Millwall fans me and my mates had a little run in with. I know this because i got moved on to recycling, and my weekly takings got hammered, as i couldn't do private jobs, and got finished a lot later. Paul Barry (Chelscum ) your bum licking may have got you promotion, but you know your always be licking your bosses arse  :014:
Fred i recycle all my rubbish in a black bin bag and leave at the bottom of the flats every wednesday morning by thursday its gone...
As for the a hole licker what goes around mate comes around hopefully he falls in the cart....
I would recycle if i lived in a house, but i dont so everything goes straight down the chute. As for Paul Barry, the govner before him was a Fulham supporter, he told me i was always working an angle, but treated me ok, though i was no favorite. His Son Anthony is Fulham, and so are many binmen in the Borough. Oh Glorious binmen of Fulham rise up and over throw the evil Barry.


Nick the Swede

The situation over here is very much like what Sipwell described from Flandern. 

Every apartment block has their own recycling station and we compost all left over (this is sent to local farms to be spread on their fields, and some is turned into bio-gas), all papers are recycled (glossy magazines, letters and other "treated" papers is burnt due to the chemicals), batteries are sent back to the factories (not sure what they do with them), cardboard is recycled separately, all metals goes in to one bin, all cans and bottles are brought back to the stores (as there is a system in place where you get money back when handing them in) etc.

Everything that is burned is taken to a local factory and they use the energy produced in their production.

I feel we do quite a lot in terms in recycling, but I'm sure we can do even more!
-"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"

The Equalizer

Quote from: FatFreddysCat on November 24, 2011, 12:50:04 AM
I would recycle if i lived in a house, but i dont so everything goes straight down the chute. As for Paul Barry, the govner before him was a Fulham supporter, he told me i was always working an angle, but treated me ok, though i was no favorite. His Son Anthony is Fulham, and so are many binmen in the Borough. Oh Glorious binmen of Fulham rise up and over throw the evil Barry.

Paul Barry? I wonder if this is the same Paul Barry I know - another Chelsea supporter. Looks a bit like Dr Bunsen Honeydew?

"We won't look back on this season with regret, but with pride. Because we won what many teams fail to win in a lifetime – an unprecedented degree of respect and support that saw British football fans unite and cheer on Fulham with heart." Mohammed Al Fayed, May 2010

Twitter: @equalizerffc

BalDrick

Quote from: Nick the Swede on November 24, 2011, 08:49:04 AM
The situation over here is very much like what Sipwell described from Flandern. 

Every apartment block has their own recycling station and we compost all left over (this is sent to local farms to be spread on their fields, and some is turned into bio-gas), all papers are recycled (glossy magazines, letters and other "treated" papers is burnt due to the chemicals), batteries are sent back to the factories (not sure what they do with them), cardboard is recycled separately, all metals goes in to one bin, all cans and bottles are brought back to the stores (as there is a system in place where you get money back when handing them in) etc.

Everything that is burned is taken to a local factory and they use the energy produced in their production.

I feel we do quite a lot in terms in recycling, but I'm sure we can do even more!

Have to say, both yours and Sipwell's responses are very impressive.

I don't know any binmen by name so I'm not getting into the other conversation on this thread!
Cigarettes and women be the death of me, better that than this old town


The Bronsons

Quote from: FatFreddysCat on November 24, 2011, 12:50:04 AM
Quote from: TheDaddy on November 24, 2011, 12:20:44 AM
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on November 24, 2011, 12:15:25 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on November 23, 2011, 01:26:52 PM
Wandsworth Borough Council provides orange sacks, into which you place everything that can be recycled. They then send these sacks off to Merton, where they are dropped off outside the houses of the less well-off for sorting into the relevant coloured boxes by the local residentia.
No they dont, like Hammersmith and Fulham, the orange bags all go to lotts rd Scumsea, where by bizarre coincedence the weighbridge bloke and a few workers are the Millwall fans me and my mates had a little run in with. I know this because i got moved on to recycling, and my weekly takings got hammered, as i couldn't do private jobs, and got finished a lot later. Paul Barry (Chelscum ) your bum licking may have got you promotion, but you know your always be licking your bosses arse  :014:
As for the a hole licker what goes around mate comes around hopefully he falls in the cart....
I would recycle if i lived in a house, but i dont so everything goes straight down the chute. As for Paul Barry, the govner before him was a Fulham supporter, he told me i was always working an angle, but treated me ok, though i was no favorite. His Son Anthony is Fulham, and so are many binmen in the Borough. Oh Glorious binmen of Fulham rise up and over throw the evil Barry.

You should work this up into a novel or film script - seriously.  :dft003:

FatFreddysCat

Quote from: The Equalizer on November 24, 2011, 09:03:28 AM
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on November 24, 2011, 12:50:04 AM
I would recycle if i lived in a house, but i dont so everything goes straight down the chute. As for Paul Barry, the govner before him was a Fulham supporter, he told me i was always working an angle, but treated me ok, though i was no favorite. His Son Anthony is Fulham, and so are many binmen in the Borough. Oh Glorious binmen of Fulham rise up and over throw the evil Barry.

Paul Barry? I wonder if this is the same Paul Barry I know - another Chelsea supporter. Looks a bit like Dr Bunsen Honeydew?


Bald head yep, didn't wear glasses then , but might now. Was in the TA. Werewolf like chesthair sticking out the top of his teeshirt  :020:

FatFreddysCat

Quote from: The Bronsons on November 24, 2011, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on November 24, 2011, 12:50:04 AM
Quote from: TheDaddy on November 24, 2011, 12:20:44 AM
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on November 24, 2011, 12:15:25 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on November 23, 2011, 01:26:52 PM
Wandsworth Borough Council provides orange sacks, into which you place everything that can be recycled. They then send these sacks off to Merton, where they are dropped off outside the houses of the less well-off for sorting into the relevant coloured boxes by the local residentia.
No they dont, like Hammersmith and Fulham, the orange bags all go to lotts rd Scumsea, where by bizarre coincedence the weighbridge bloke and a few workers are the Millwall fans me and my mates had a little run in with. I know this because i got moved on to recycling, and my weekly takings got hammered, as i couldn't do private jobs, and got finished a lot later. Paul Barry (Chelscum ) your bum licking may have got you promotion, but you know your always be licking your bosses arse  :014:
As for the a hole licker what goes around mate comes around hopefully he falls in the cart....
I would recycle if i lived in a house, but i dont so everything goes straight down the chute. As for Paul Barry, the govner before him was a Fulham supporter, he told me i was always working an angle, but treated me ok, though i was no favorite. His Son Anthony is Fulham, and so are many binmen in the Borough. Oh Glorious binmen of Fulham rise up and over throw the evil Barry.

You should work this up into a novel or film script - seriously.  :dft003:
Hmmm The Rise of the Zombie Binmen. Trained zombies that are only allowed to eat you if you put the wrong stuff in the wrong bin, it would certainly make the place more eco friendly.


The Equalizer

HAHAHA! I've known Paul for years. He's best mates with my oldest mate's brother (who is a Fulham supporter). And yes, they were both in the TA together.
"We won't look back on this season with regret, but with pride. Because we won what many teams fail to win in a lifetime – an unprecedented degree of respect and support that saw British football fans unite and cheer on Fulham with heart." Mohammed Al Fayed, May 2010

Twitter: @equalizerffc

FatFreddysCat

Rule two, the zombies are allowed to eat the numerous charming people who can see you chucking bags into the back of the cart, yet stand there with a dog on a lead whilst it pees all over the bags, real life binmen should be allowed to pull out the colnel and pee all over the dog owners. Fox and cat turd is anouther delight  :035: